Speaker 1: Amazon discontinues its activity trackers, a new tablet to rival
Speaker 1: the iPad. Hackers are breaking into AT and T email accounts.
Speaker 1: Plus your tech questions answered. What's going on. I'm Rich
Speaker 1: Demiro and this is Rich on Tech, the show where
Speaker 1: I talk about the tech stuff I think you should
Speaker 1: know about. It's also the place where I answer your
Speaker 1: questions about technology. I'm the tech reporter at KTLA Channel
Speaker 1: five in Los Angeles. Welcome to show number seventeen. That's right,
Speaker 1: seventeen shows so far feels like I don't know what
Speaker 1: it feels like.
Speaker 2: Actually it feels about right. Seventeen.
Speaker 1: Phone lines are open at triple eight Rich one oh one.
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Speaker 1: question about technology, email is also open. Send it to
Speaker 1: hello at richon tech dot TV. So show number seventeen
Speaker 1: means that we are still getting to know each other.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: This is a new show. It's a new format. It's
Speaker 1: got some familiar familiarity. Familiar, it's a little bit familiar,
Speaker 1: but it's also new, and so I hope you are
Speaker 1: enjoying it the way that we are going to get,
Speaker 1: you know, more people to know about the show is
Speaker 1: really to share the fact that you are listening to
Speaker 1: this show. So if you like what you're hearing, if
Speaker 1: you like the show, please tell a friend. That's really
Speaker 1: the best way to grow this show and to grow
Speaker 1: this program. So thank you for all the support that
Speaker 1: I've gotten so far. Believe me, it's been amazing. But
Speaker 1: we can always have more. Of course, So what a
Speaker 1: week it's been. I don't say that very often, because
Speaker 1: most weeks are just fine, but this week my son
Speaker 1: happened to Well, let me tell you the story. I'm
Speaker 1: driving driving home. I just went to an event, and
Speaker 1: I get that dreaded phone call, you know, the one
Speaker 1: that comes from the phone number that says your kid's
Speaker 1: school on it. And you're like, oh, no, is this
Speaker 1: an automated phone call or is this an actual phone call?
Speaker 1: And so I pick up the phone, and of course,
Speaker 1: the one time I need a phone call to work,
Speaker 1: when your kid's school is working or calling, it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: For some reason, the bluetooth was not connected in my car,
Speaker 1: the volume was not up, whatever it was, I could
Speaker 1: not hear the person on the other end, and so
Speaker 1: it went from super loud music that I was listening
Speaker 1: to to nothing, and so of course I'm fumbling with
Speaker 1: the phone. Not really supposed to be touching your phone
Speaker 1: while you're driving, but it's my kid's school, so I'm fumbling,
Speaker 1: and I go from the Bluetooth connection to speakerphone or
Speaker 1: I actually don't remember. At this point, I think I
Speaker 1: might have put them on speakerphone. And of course it's
Speaker 1: like the front office, not an emergency. But your kid
Speaker 1: might have broken their arm. How is that not an emergency?
Speaker 1: So it felt like an emergency, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: what's the deal. And so the front office is like, well,
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of broken arms. It doesn't seem broken.
Speaker 1: But on the flip side, your kid never complains, and
Speaker 1: he's been complaining a lot. He fell, And I said, okay,
Speaker 1: let me go over there.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Luckily, I work early in the morning on TV, and
Speaker 1: so about you know, two o'clock, I am done, and
Speaker 1: so I have the ability to drive over to the school.
Speaker 1: So I drive over to the school. I find my kid,
Speaker 1: of course, in the main office, with his arm. He
Speaker 1: can't move it and he's holding it together pretty well.
Speaker 1: But long story short, he tells me, Dad, I think
Speaker 1: this is broken. So we go to the you know,
Speaker 1: emergency room whatever, not er, but like one of those
Speaker 1: like urgent care places. Now they call themselves urgent care,
Speaker 1: but the care was anything but urgent. I mean I
Speaker 1: get in there, it's like my kid is at this
Speaker 1: point whaling, and it's like, okay, insurance and paperwork please.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've been here, can we please just look
Speaker 1: up his name and get him in there. We got
Speaker 1: to go through the motions of fill out this paperwork
Speaker 1: and I'm like, really, so I fill out the paperwork,
Speaker 1: can't find him in the system. I know he's in there.
Speaker 1: Sure enough, they find him and then it's okay, it'll
Speaker 1: be a couple of minutes. At this point, my kid
Speaker 1: is really wailing. And if you've had a kid with
Speaker 1: the you know, the broken arm situation, which my kid
Speaker 1: has had it twice.
Speaker 2: Now this is the second time.
Speaker 1: It's bad, you know you want immediate results, and as
Speaker 1: a parent, you feel helpless. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: things I can do in this world, fixing a broken
Speaker 1: arm is not one of them. So I'm at the
Speaker 1: mercy of this little emergency care center which has nobody
Speaker 1: in it, but for some reason, it's still taking a
Speaker 1: really long time. We get into the room, they're taking
Speaker 1: his temperature, all this stuff. I mean, I guess they
Speaker 1: got to do the vitals. But if you've been in
Speaker 1: this situation, you know that it just feels really bad.
Speaker 1: You're just sitting there helpless, your kid is crying. It's
Speaker 1: not fun. Long story short, We go through the whole situation.
Speaker 1: They take an X ray, they say it's broken. It's
Speaker 1: his wrist actually, and we get them wrapped up and
Speaker 1: they say, okay, now take them to the you know,
Speaker 1: the main expert person next week. And so of course
Speaker 1: my wife by this time gets here and she's like,
Speaker 1: oh no, it's like we're doing this right now. So
Speaker 1: she goes takes the kid right to the orthopedic surgeon
Speaker 1: and figures out. I mean, she is much better at
Speaker 1: this stuff than I am. She had him in a
Speaker 1: cast within the next two hours, more X rays cast apparently,
Speaker 1: by the way, they do waterproof casts now, which I
Speaker 1: have never seen before, and they swear you can get
Speaker 1: it wet, take it in the shower, take it swimming.
Speaker 2: I still don't believe it. I've been covering it up.
Speaker 2: But anyway, I.
Speaker 1: Tell you this story because this is what I love
Speaker 1: about technology. When it's supposed to work, it may not.
Speaker 1: And I call it the it has to be easy
Speaker 1: for everyone else principle. I know, if you're a nerd
Speaker 1: like me, you can set up all this stuff in
Speaker 1: your house, right, the smart home stuff, the sensor that
Speaker 1: works when you walk into the certain room, the lights
Speaker 1: come on, and you know what to do when it
Speaker 1: goes wrong. You have the remote setup for your TV
Speaker 1: and your surround sound and your system, and it's super complex,
Speaker 1: and you're playing stuff off server, and you've got the
Speaker 1: lights that automate, and you've got the movies that you
Speaker 1: can take off of plex whatever. None of that matters
Speaker 1: if you are living with someone else that doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to do that stuff. So I call it the
Speaker 1: system has to work for everyone else in the home.
Speaker 1: And this is kind of like my overriding tech forever now.
Speaker 1: When I set stuff up, it has to work for everyone,
Speaker 1: not just for me. And so I'm sure you've experienced
Speaker 1: this in your life where you need technology in your
Speaker 1: home to work for everyone. And when technology works for everyone,
Speaker 1: that's when it's magical. In my car, it did not
Speaker 1: work that day, and it doesn't matter if it doesn't
Speaker 1: work any other day of the year, but when I
Speaker 1: get into my car and I have an emergency situation
Speaker 1: like that, it needs to work. And my wife always
Speaker 1: gives me a hard time because she likes her like
Speaker 1: standard kind of radio that works just when she turns
Speaker 1: on her.
Speaker 2: Car and I get it and in my car.
Speaker 1: For many years I had like these systems and you
Speaker 1: plug in the iPod and this and that. It was
Speaker 1: all too complicated for her. So it's just kind of
Speaker 1: one of these things where I feel like my world
Speaker 1: has always been make it easy that remote control. Like
Speaker 1: if you have to tell the person that stays in
Speaker 1: your home, like how to use the remote for your TV,
Speaker 1: that's a problem if you have to, Like for many years,
Speaker 1: I use Google Voice for my phone line, and it
Speaker 1: was so complicated. Nine times out of ten you would
Speaker 1: get voicemail because it just didn't work. It didn't ring
Speaker 1: the phone. I happen to be testing at that time.
Speaker 1: And so long story short, just make sure when you
Speaker 1: set up your technology it works for someone else, whether
Speaker 1: that's your smart home, your automations, your alarm system, your speakers,
Speaker 1: your TV, your streaming setup, whatever it is, make.
Speaker 2: It easy Okay, what else?
Speaker 1: This week was also interesting because I did my first
Speaker 1: virtual wine tasting. Now I know that Zoom has made
Speaker 1: everything happen online, and especially through the pandemic, we realize
Speaker 1: that we can do ninety nine percent of our jobs
Speaker 1: through Zoom, email and texting. And for some reason, I
Speaker 1: really fought that for a long time and then I've
Speaker 1: sort of embraced it. So now for some of my
Speaker 1: TV segments, I will do Zoom interviews, which I never
Speaker 1: did before. We used to always have to meet the
Speaker 1: people in person to do the interview. Now I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, fine, I'll do a Zoom interview. It doesn't
Speaker 1: look as good, doesn't sound as good, but people have
Speaker 1: come to expect it, so I'll do it. But this
Speaker 1: week I did a virtual wine tasting eleven am on
Speaker 1: a Friday.
Speaker 2: That's when this wine tasting was. Was it random? Yes?
Speaker 2: Was it kind of fun?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So it was this, I guess this California Green Metal,
Speaker 1: the California Wine Institute. They were excited about these sustainable
Speaker 1: wineries and so they wanted to teach us and have
Speaker 1: us taste some of the wines from these sustainable wineries.
Speaker 1: And what does sustainable mean? Well, it's kind of a
Speaker 1: holistic approach to wine. So not only are you doing
Speaker 1: things like renewable energy and putting goats to you know,
Speaker 1: eat the grass on the fields and you know, eat
Speaker 1: weeds and all that kind of stuf, and use spiders
Speaker 1: to like clean the.
Speaker 2: Pesta instead of pesticides.
Speaker 1: It's also about a holistic approach to the way you
Speaker 1: treat your employees, the way you do charity, all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So we tasted a couple of wines.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I tasted maybe two of the wines
Speaker 1: they sent us, I think four, and they were excellent.
Speaker 1: But eleven am on a Friday, I mean, I had
Speaker 1: my whole day ahead. I couldn't really, you know, sit
Speaker 1: there and drink all these wines. But it was a
Speaker 1: lot of fun and you'll learn. So now I want
Speaker 1: to go to these California wineries and do a story
Speaker 1: about sustainability, whether they're installing solar, whether they're capturing the
Speaker 1: runoff water from the rains. One of the wineries had
Speaker 1: produced one hundred and two percent of their energy for
Speaker 1: the year, so that means they were making all the
Speaker 1: energy they needed to run their winery, and more so,
Speaker 1: I was pretty impressed with that. So it was a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. If you come across a virtual wine tasting,
Speaker 1: which by the way, we did many with friends and family.
Speaker 1: Over the pandemic, we definitely had our fair share of
Speaker 1: those kind of events, but you know, being in person.
Speaker 2: Is much more fun. So but it was kind of cool.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, I've got a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: We've got lots to talk about, lots of great guests.
Speaker 1: First off, I'm gonna tell you about Amazon discontinuing discontinuing
Speaker 1: one of its smart devices. Amazon and Google, they are
Speaker 1: neck and neck with these companies that just make stuff
Speaker 1: to break stuff. They have a product or a service
Speaker 1: and then they say, you know what, never mind, We're
Speaker 1: not going to do that anymore. So I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you which product that Amazon is now discontinuing and when
Speaker 1: it's gonna stop working, and how you can download all
Speaker 1: of your data from it. I've got great guests this week.
Speaker 1: Dwight Silverman. He is a tech columnist at the Houston
Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle. He is going to join me to talk
Speaker 1: about the new one plus pad. This is a tablet.
Speaker 1: Could it rival the iPad? Then Scott Keyes is going
Speaker 1: to join me. He is founder and CEO of Going
Speaker 1: dot com. He's gonna tell us how you can nab
Speaker 1: incredible travel deals later wire cut or if your Lauren
Speaker 1: Dragon is going to tell us about all of her
Speaker 1: picks for the best headphones. But first it is your turn.
Speaker 1: Phone lines are open at Triple eight rich one on one.
Speaker 1: Give me a call, we'll talk technology. My name is Richdmiro.
Speaker 1: You are listening to Rich on tech. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: Rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here talking technology with you
Speaker 1: at triple eight rich one on one. That's eight eight
Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one. Kelly
Speaker 1: in California, you're.
Speaker 2: On with Rich.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much for taking my call.
Speaker 4: Rich.
Speaker 5: Sure, what's up I have? I think my email's been hacked.
Speaker 2: It's at and t oh I got to talk about
Speaker 2: that that's happening.
Speaker 5: Okay, So two weeks ago I stopped getting email and
Speaker 5: I cannot send email. And I've done everything they've asked
Speaker 5: me to do. I called them immediately and they said
Speaker 5: they tried everything to reset my password, couldn't do it.
Speaker 5: So then they said my email was stuck in a loop.
Speaker 5: So they asked me to fill out a form at
Speaker 5: this my email info dot com and somebody would call
Speaker 5: me back in forty eight to seventy two hours.
Speaker 4: So I filled out the form.
Speaker 5: Never got a call, so I called them back again.
Speaker 5: They said, we're so sorry, somebody will call you back
Speaker 5: in twenty four hours. Never got a call. I went
Speaker 5: back on to that same at and T email info website,
Speaker 5: filled out another form, no call, So I called back
Speaker 5: and then they said, well, we will send you a
Speaker 5: postcard a postcard. Yeah, I'll send you a postcard and
Speaker 5: three to five business days with instructions on how to
Speaker 5: reset your password. So it's been seven business days and
Speaker 5: I still have no postcard. So they're just giving me
Speaker 5: the run around. They're just you know, service, They're not
Speaker 5: going to call me or send me anything.
Speaker 4: So now I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, number one is this email address you're
Speaker 1: only is it your most important or is it just
Speaker 1: one that you're trying to get access into.
Speaker 5: It is my very most important. I do have a Gmail,
Speaker 5: but I've only used it for one thing that I
Speaker 5: had to you know, I had to have a backup
Speaker 5: email for to open an account for something like three
Speaker 5: years ago, and I've never used it for anything.
Speaker 1: Okay, So a couple of things here. Number one, let's
Speaker 1: switch to this Gmail account as soon as you can.
Speaker 1: I know that this this AT and T Yahoo whatever
Speaker 1: it is. You know, they've gone through so many different iterations.
Speaker 1: I've heard about more issues with these branded accounts than anything.
Speaker 1: And I'm not just singling out AT and T. I'm
Speaker 1: talking any account that comes from your provider. So if
Speaker 1: you have you know your email is coming from your
Speaker 1: internet service, right. The problem is twofold, number one. It's
Speaker 1: linked to that service. So how do you get this
Speaker 1: AT and T email? Where did it come from?
Speaker 5: It is for my internet?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So if you ever stop paying for that service,
Speaker 1: does it go away or how does that work?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: That's my question too. So I wanted to go into
Speaker 5: my AT and T account so that I can pay
Speaker 5: my bill. I can't even get into that account.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, this is okay. So number one, my advice
Speaker 1: to you. You've gone through all of the account recovery
Speaker 1: systems that they have asked you to do. I would
Speaker 1: get on the phone with AT and T and I
Speaker 1: would not get off the phone. And I know this
Speaker 1: is going to take a while until you get someone
Speaker 1: that can actually help you, and sometimes that will take
Speaker 1: just telling the person I need a supervisor. I had
Speaker 1: to do this a couple months ago with an airline
Speaker 1: and I had a credit that was a It was
Speaker 1: kind of a anyway, It just took a long time,
Speaker 1: but I kept saying, please give me a supervisor, Please
Speaker 1: give me a supervis until they finally did. And by
Speaker 1: the way, it took three different people before I kept
Speaker 1: asking them can I have a supervisor? Before I got
Speaker 1: to someone that wanted to help me, Because most of
Speaker 1: the time, I won't say most of the time, but
Speaker 1: many times there's no feeling that the person on the
Speaker 1: other end wants to help you. They just want to
Speaker 1: get you off the line and onto the next person
Speaker 1: that they can just run around.
Speaker 5: So the person I was talking to was obviously in
Speaker 5: a call center, reading from a card. I could hear
Speaker 5: a lot of background noise. When I asked for a supervisor,
Speaker 5: he told me there's nobody else here. They all have
Speaker 5: the same tools that I have. They can't do anything
Speaker 5: more than I can do.
Speaker 1: No, and then you call back and try to get
Speaker 1: you You may have to call back several times until
Speaker 1: you get someone. They actually tried to tell me that
Speaker 1: there was like no one available, and they said, we'll
Speaker 1: give you a call back, which they actually did, so
Speaker 1: I will say that they did hold up on that one.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, so I'm gonna explain. Gosh, do
Speaker 1: I have enough time to explain what's going on with
Speaker 1: AT and T email? So you're not alone. Many people
Speaker 1: have had their AT and T emails hacked in recent weeks.
Speaker 1: This is according to tech Crunch. So cybercriminals found their
Speaker 1: way into AT and T dot net emails, SBC Global
Speaker 1: dot net emails, BellSouth dot net, and other AT and
Speaker 1: T email addresses, and once they had these emails, they
Speaker 1: were able to hack into them and reset other accounts.
Speaker 1: So they're actually trying to steal cryptocurrency and doing all
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff. What I would say to you is
Speaker 1: use the advice Kelly, try to get someone on the line.
Speaker 1: You did the right stuff. You went to that email
Speaker 1: account recovery. You may eventually, once AT and T figures
Speaker 1: this out, finally get a link that will help you
Speaker 1: really reset this account and reclaim it. It's unfortunate that
Speaker 1: this happened to you. Switch to Gmail as soon as
Speaker 1: you can start using that for your main emails. Maybe
Speaker 1: go onto some of your key accounts and try to
Speaker 1: switch to email address if they allow you. But I
Speaker 1: think the bigger lesson is don't use an email account
Speaker 1: that is linked to a service that you have, whether
Speaker 1: that's your Internet service, whether that's your cable service. Just
Speaker 1: go ahead and use something like a Gmail, like an
Speaker 1: hour Outlook that is a third party service. Even pay
Speaker 1: for an email service if you want to do that way.
Speaker 1: But you know, I've had Gmail for many, many years.
Speaker 1: It's worked out for me. And so just make sure
Speaker 1: you secure whatever account you have with two factor authentication.
Speaker 1: In this case, it was a little troublesome because these
Speaker 1: cyber criminals figured out a way around all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and so AT and T is still sorting through this.
Speaker 1: They said that they're aware of this issue, according to
Speaker 1: a spokesperson for tech Crunch or a spokesperson two tech Crunch,
Speaker 1: but it is still an ongoing matter. So I'm sorry
Speaker 1: that this happened to you, Kelly, but please keep on them.
Speaker 1: Hopefully you get someone that can actually help you regain
Speaker 1: access to your account. All right, coming up, more of
Speaker 1: your calls at Triple eight Rich one on one. That's
Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two, four to one
Speaker 1: zero one. We are going to talk to Dwight Silverman next.
Speaker 1: He is the tech columnist for the Houston Chronicle. We're
Speaker 1: going to talk about a new tablet that may rival
Speaker 1: the iPad. It's called the one plus pad, and there
Speaker 1: are pros and cons. We're going to go over them
Speaker 1: coming up next. Right here, you are listening to rich
Speaker 1: on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro
Speaker 1: here talking technology with you. You can follow me on
Speaker 1: social media. I am at rich on Tech on Instagram, Facebook,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm still hanging on on Twitter. I know
Speaker 1: everyone's talking about this new thing this week called Blue Sky.
Speaker 1: Is it Blue Sky or blue Ski? This is the
Speaker 1: new competitor to Twitter. This was actually started by Twitter
Speaker 1: co founder Jack Dorsey and it's taken off this week.
Speaker 1: It's apparently very popular among the several, you know, thousand
Speaker 1: people that are using it because it's invite only right now.
Speaker 1: But if someone asks you about this new thing, blue Sky,
Speaker 1: you can say you've heard of it, so I wouldn't
Speaker 1: rush to go sign up just yet, or maybe if
Speaker 1: you want to go ahead, but you know, we've seen
Speaker 1: other alternatives in the past months, like masted On, Postnews,
Speaker 1: even this app called Artifact that's a kind of a
Speaker 1: news app, but it's kind of taken the place of Twitter.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just so many now. But the difference
Speaker 1: with blue Ski or blue Sky, whatever you want to
Speaker 1: call it, that's kind of interesting is that it's almost
Speaker 1: like an open source platform. So Blue Sky think about
Speaker 1: it this way. Blue Sky is building a platform on
Speaker 1: top of open standards. So if I wanted to create
Speaker 1: an app that sort of interfaced with this open standard,
Speaker 1: i could. And so that's why people are liking it
Speaker 1: because theoretically it's not just owned by one company. It's
Speaker 1: not just Twitter. It's sort of like Twitter, but anyone
Speaker 1: can build an app that would live on top of
Speaker 1: this platform. And so it's kind of interesting in that
Speaker 1: aspect and I do like that. But otherwise it's very
Speaker 1: much the same. You can post short messages, you've got
Speaker 1: a feed, it's a decentralized network. That's the biggest difference.
Speaker 1: But it is a little bit more complic because you
Speaker 1: have to have a server, kind of like that masted
Speaker 1: On stuff. I know, it gets very complicated, right, So again, Twitter,
Speaker 1: I know, it's kind of like that whole thing of
Speaker 1: my death has been overly exaggerated. The what is it,
Speaker 1: the news of my demise has been overly exaggerated, something
Speaker 1: like that, that famous saying. That's kind of like Twitter,
Speaker 1: like it's still the most popular, one of the most
Speaker 1: popular social networks out there.
Speaker 2: But anyway, I digress. Let's bring on Dwight Silverman.
Speaker 1: He is retired but now back at the Houston Chronicle
Speaker 1: doing technology. And you've been doing this for a very
Speaker 1: long time, Dwight, how long? Welcome to the show.
Speaker 6: Hey, Rich, I have been doing this since about really
Speaker 6: since the late eighties. I've had a column since the
Speaker 6: early nineties of the Chronicle. I retired briefly. I'm not
Speaker 6: good at retirement until I came back and I'm doing
Speaker 6: a column as a freelancer. I'm back doing my regular
Speaker 6: weekly column and occasional longer form story and I'm having
Speaker 6: a great time.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I mean, who doesn't like getting gadgets to test on
Speaker 1: your terms? So I mean before I'm sure you were
Speaker 1: under deadlines and this and that, and you can be like, oh,
Speaker 1: write a column this week and maybe not next week.
Speaker 2: Is that the agreement? At this point?
Speaker 6: Oh no, they want it every week.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, okay, that's fine, I get that all right. So,
Speaker 1: and by the way, I know you're on mastadon. How
Speaker 1: is it going on there? I mean, does it feel
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of people on there and a
Speaker 1: lot of activity compared to Twitter?
Speaker 2: Or is it still sort of nascent?
Speaker 6: You know, it's like Twitter was very early on. There
Speaker 6: were people who jumped onto Twitter in the earliest days
Speaker 6: who said, there's nothing here, how do I talk to people?
Speaker 6: And the same thing is true with mathddon. You kind
Speaker 6: of have to find your people, right. One of the
Speaker 6: nice things for me is that, you know, I write
Speaker 6: about technology and I've been a digital journalist for a
Speaker 6: long time, and so there's a lot of people who
Speaker 6: are pretty tech savvy. And when the initial departure from
Speaker 6: Twitter to masddon started in late twenty twenty two, two
Speaker 6: people put in their profiles that they had moved to
Speaker 6: mastadon And there were several apps that appeared that let
Speaker 6: you find people who you were following who had mentioned
Speaker 6: mastedon on their feet that's cool, did you coure to
Speaker 6: follow them? And so I've got probably about six hundred
Speaker 6: people I follow on mastadon. It doesn't have things like
Speaker 6: you know, I'm a local newspaper columnist and I really
Speaker 6: kind of missed the local news that you could find
Speaker 6: on Twitter. But for the most part, I have better conversations,
Speaker 6: more civil, richer, and I think with smarter people sometimes
Speaker 6: than I was on Twitter. I think for me, it's
Speaker 6: more satisfying.
Speaker 1: But just as you get used to this, now you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to sign up for Blue Sky and see
Speaker 1: what that's all about.
Speaker 6: I'm on the weight list.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're on the weight list, so my, so my,
Speaker 1: So we'll see. We'll talk about that in a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks once we both get in and see. But
Speaker 1: I like the fact that it's built on that decentralized
Speaker 1: kind of platform. It's almost like more Web three instead
Speaker 1: of Twitter. You know, we're seeing all these new things
Speaker 1: come along that are much more decentralized and put the
Speaker 1: user in more control. But enough about that, let's talk
Speaker 1: about one plus. So you've been testing out the one
Speaker 1: plus pad, as have I. My review will be on
Speaker 1: KTLA channel five on Monday, so if you're in the
Speaker 1: LA area you can watch that.
Speaker 2: But you have reviewed it, you've.
Speaker 1: Written your column, you said, it's a satisfying, sleek and simple,
Speaker 1: simple Android tablet.
Speaker 2: So let's get through the basics. What do you think
Speaker 2: of this thing?
Speaker 6: Well, you know, one of the interesting things about one
Speaker 6: plus is that this company has been around for a
Speaker 6: while doing premium smartphones, but they don't charge the same.
Speaker 3: Prices that the big guides do.
Speaker 6: Their current smartphone is the one Plus eleven, and it's
Speaker 6: a fantastic phone.
Speaker 7: It's really fast.
Speaker 6: It uses the same process process or family that Samsung's
Speaker 6: current flagship phones used. It's just it's a joy to use.
Speaker 6: And one plus wants to get into the tablet market,
Speaker 6: and so they've taken what they've learned from doing these
Speaker 6: smartphones at decent prices and produced their first tablet. It's
Speaker 6: called the one plus Pad. It's an eleven point six
Speaker 6: inch on the diagonal tablet. It is very fast, it
Speaker 6: has minimal bloatwear, which I'm really happy about it.
Speaker 1: That's what I really liked. Yeah, the software on it
Speaker 1: is so great. I mean, if you've ever had a
Speaker 1: one plus phone, the software is incredible. It's the same
Speaker 1: on this tablet. The software is just it's so like
Speaker 1: just refreshing for Android because usually when you get an Android,
Speaker 1: it's got all this bloatwear. If you ever use Samsung,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like stuff you don't need. Maybe
Speaker 1: not so much in recent years, but you know previously
Speaker 1: and with the one Plus, it's just so fresh and clean.
Speaker 2: It's just so nice.
Speaker 6: Yes, and you know what happens, particularly with Samsung and
Speaker 6: other big name brands, is that they have their own
Speaker 6: apps along with you know, always have Google's apps because
Speaker 6: you know Google owns and manages Android and so. But
Speaker 6: on this it basically is a handful of very simple,
Speaker 6: uh cleanly written one plus apps, and then there is
Speaker 6: a folder full of Google's apps. And so if you
Speaker 6: know and you use Google products, you'll feel right at
Speaker 6: home at this. The other thing is that the general
Speaker 6: layout and even the feel of the hardware reminds me
Speaker 6: very much of Apple's basic iPad. Yes, you know, it
Speaker 6: looks a lot like they're trying to go for people
Speaker 6: who maybe have an Android phone, but they have they
Speaker 6: bought an iPad because the iPad is the gold standard
Speaker 6: for tablets.
Speaker 8: Still.
Speaker 6: Yes, and here is here's the device that you can
Speaker 6: that you can get. It isn't loaded down with junk,
Speaker 6: that's very clean and very simple, very fast, and it
Speaker 6: kind of looks like an iPad on its own screen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so it comes in one color, Halo green.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you better like, because that's what you're gonna get.
Speaker 1: It's one hundred and twenty eight gigabytes again on one
Speaker 1: size for that, no expandable memory. The screen size is
Speaker 1: it's about almost twelve inches, and it's got this interesting
Speaker 1: ratio of seven to five, which I found to be
Speaker 1: just fine. It's got a large battery and the charging
Speaker 1: is incredibly fast, so that's really nice. It's got Dolby
Speaker 1: Vision Dolby at most. The only thing that I found
Speaker 1: with the display, which I thought was really really nice,
Speaker 1: is that I found it to be a little bit
Speaker 1: when I was scrolling on some text, a little bit jellyish.
Speaker 2: But it's fine. I mean, it's not like a deal
Speaker 2: breaker for this thing. Now.
Speaker 1: The pricing on this pad four to seventy nine for
Speaker 1: the device, which I thought was a little bit high.
Speaker 1: I wish they would have come in a little bit lower.
Speaker 1: Magnetic keyboard one forty nine, stylus ninety nine. So I
Speaker 1: think that this is a great tablet and it's a
Speaker 1: good kind of Android alternative to the iPad.
Speaker 2: But Dwight, do you think.
Speaker 1: That folks should wait for like to see what the
Speaker 1: pixel does or who do you think.
Speaker 2: This is for?
Speaker 6: I think this is for at the outset, people who
Speaker 6: already have one plus phone and who maybe as I said,
Speaker 6: maybe already own an iPad, but they'd like to go
Speaker 6: all in on Android. It has some One of the
Speaker 6: things that it's doing is they're trying to build up
Speaker 6: a similar kind of ecosystem with one Plus hardware. So,
Speaker 6: for example, if you have the one Plus buds Pro two,
Speaker 6: which is their latest earbuds, yes, and they pair up
Speaker 6: almost as smoothly as the Airpod's pro does on an
Speaker 6: iPad or an iPhone. You know, you just open it,
Speaker 6: you hold it nearby, and you're connected. It also does
Speaker 6: a similar thing for using your phone's five G connection,
Speaker 6: so you can bring your one plus phone close to it,
Speaker 6: and if you don't have any kind of Internet connection
Speaker 6: currently on the pad, it says, do you want to
Speaker 6: share your phone's Internet connection? And then you just can.
Speaker 6: It's very you know, they're working towards an Apple type
Speaker 6: of ecosystem, and I would say, after an iteration or two,
Speaker 6: it will be it'll it'll be even better. The one
Speaker 6: thing about the price is that one plus will aggressively
Speaker 6: discount shortly after its launch, So if you're thinking about
Speaker 6: getting one of these, you might want to keep an
Speaker 6: eye on sales and so forth. It's for seventy nine
Speaker 6: to start, but I wouldn't be surprised if you don't
Speaker 6: see it selling soon for in the four fifty four
Speaker 6: forty five range.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I would agree with that. Let's leave it there.
Speaker 1: One plus pad. It's available May eighth pre order right now,
Speaker 1: and I believe they have a fifty dollars discount right
Speaker 1: now if you trade in something else. But the reality is,
Speaker 1: I agree with Dwight, wait for a sale on this,
Speaker 1: usually around Mother's Day or something. I bet you they'll
Speaker 1: have one. Maybe not right off the bat, but you know,
Speaker 1: you wait a month or two, you'll be fine. All right, Dwight,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining me today. I appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Sure, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll follow you on mastadon or any other
Speaker 1: social network that may come along, and uh look for
Speaker 1: your stuff in the Houston Chronicle. All right, coming up
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Speaker 1: I will be writing it soon. Jack is in Goldendale, Washington.
Speaker 7: Jack, you're on with rich Hey, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for calling question here.
Speaker 7: I don't remember when I bought my net book. I
Speaker 7: don't even know if they still know.
Speaker 2: Wow, those were hot for a while.
Speaker 7: Well, I loved it. The thing was great. It came
Speaker 7: with Windows seven, and my sister gave she worked at
Speaker 7: Microsoft at the time, and she gave me Windows eight.
Speaker 7: I didn't really like Windows eight and then Windows ten
Speaker 7: came along, so I installed it, and at the time
Speaker 7: I just wasn't into computers, so I let it sit
Speaker 7: for unfortunately over thirty days. Well it turns out Microsoft
Speaker 7: didn't bother to tell me that after thirty days you
Speaker 7: cannot uninstall Windows ten.
Speaker 2: Oh it kind of locks itself in there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, this little guy can't really handle the Windows ten.
Speaker 2: And I was going to say, I'm surprised it even
Speaker 2: installed on there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, it won't do updates anymore. It now it
Speaker 7: looks at your computer and says, oh, this thing can't
Speaker 7: handle Windows you know, the updates. Yeah, well, I wish
Speaker 7: they'd done that when I was installing Windows ten. But anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 7: what I'm looking at is, I don't you know, I
Speaker 7: spent like maybe less than three hundred dollars on this
Speaker 7: thing at Costco years ago. It's an acer file one.
Speaker 7: I tried looking it up while I was on hold,
Speaker 7: but apparently you can't do that when you're on hold
Speaker 7: with speakerphone and all that, or with all the music
Speaker 7: and all that stuff. So anyway, I tried looking up
Speaker 7: to figure out how old it is. I'm guessing it
Speaker 7: was about twenty ten. Somewhere in there, maybe twenty oh nine,
Speaker 7: I don't know, But anyway, I would like to replace
Speaker 7: this thing and windows. You know, thank god that don't
Speaker 7: make cars like they do computers, otherwise everybody replacing their
Speaker 7: car three years.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it depends on the computers.
Speaker 1: But listen, I mean, so what you're trying to spend
Speaker 1: under five hundred how much you're trying to spend on
Speaker 1: a new computer?
Speaker 7: You know, Quite honestly, I am so fed up with computers.
Speaker 7: I don't want to spend any money, but nowadays you
Speaker 7: have to have it your doctor appointments, your banking, your well,
Speaker 7: I don't do banking on a computer, but everybody everything
Speaker 7: is digital and you kind of have to have it.
Speaker 7: So I guess I have to spend a bunch of
Speaker 7: money just so I can still live in this modern world. Well,
Speaker 7: wondering what you would suggest might be a inexpensive I
Speaker 7: have never dealt with what do they call it?
Speaker 3: Apple?
Speaker 7: I've never dealt with that, so I don't really want
Speaker 7: to try to learn a new system. You know, I'm
Speaker 7: almost seven years old, so I'm getting kind of tired
Speaker 7: of this stuff. But what are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, first off, I mean, I think you could
Speaker 1: do a lot on your phone if you have a smartphone.
Speaker 7: Or no, well it's semi smart, it's kind of a cheap.
Speaker 7: What is it, moto.
Speaker 2: E okay, oh, moto E got it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And this is my first so called smartphone. It's
Speaker 7: only got thirty two gigs, so even it's almost maxed out.
Speaker 7: It seventy five percent storage, you know, just for apps,
Speaker 7: so I can't install anything else as far as apps go,
Speaker 7: So I can get by on it. But I would
Speaker 7: really like to be able to type. I used to
Speaker 7: like typing on word, type out a letter, copy and
Speaker 7: paste it into an email and send it.
Speaker 1: Well, nowadays you can just use chat ept to compose
Speaker 1: those letters. You don't even have to type. That's the
Speaker 1: good news, Jack. You could just Half the stuff that
Speaker 1: you used to do manually is now all automatic. So
Speaker 1: you're good there, I did it.
Speaker 7: I'm absolutely against AI and I do not want to
Speaker 7: have anything to do with chat GPS.
Speaker 2: Okay, so no, no, no writing your letters with chat GBT.
Speaker 3: Well, I would.
Speaker 7: Recommend, you know, just on word would be fine. I
Speaker 7: can still copy and paste.
Speaker 3: I can do that.
Speaker 7: I'm a good type.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I would recommend. I mean, if you want
Speaker 1: to stick with Windows, I would just find a Windows
Speaker 1: laptop that you think is you know, decent. I would
Speaker 1: go maybe like something like the Wirecutter. Have you heard
Speaker 1: of wirecutter dot com?
Speaker 7: Yes, I have the newsletter. Yeah I would. I would
Speaker 7: mainly about UH streaming services, and I haven't heard I
Speaker 7: haven't read anything on there yet.
Speaker 1: Okay, So if you look up wirecutter, they do have
Speaker 1: some of the best laptops under five hundred dollars, so
Speaker 1: i'd recommend looking there. A lot of those are going
Speaker 1: to be Chromebooks. And that sounds like you said you
Speaker 1: didn't want to learn something new, so maybe you don't
Speaker 1: want to go with a chromebook. So the best Windows
Speaker 1: computer they pick under five hundred is actually, if you
Speaker 1: can believe it, the Acer Aspire five. So you have
Speaker 1: the acer Aspire one. It sounds like they've updated things
Speaker 1: just a little bit. It's a little bit more expensive.
Speaker 1: It looks like it's about four hundred and something dollars,
Speaker 1: so it's under five hundred. I don't really see Windows
Speaker 1: computers in that three hundred dollars range anymore. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's really about four hundred I think is the Magic
Speaker 1: four to five.
Speaker 7: I understand.
Speaker 1: So I think that this computer, if you get it
Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's going to run the latest Windows.
Speaker 1: For under five hundred bucks, I would check out the
Speaker 1: ACER Aspire five. I think that's going to be something
Speaker 1: that you can get. Otherwise, you know, there's another one.
Speaker 1: They recommend, an Asus Vivo Book. That's another one that's
Speaker 1: about four hundred bucks. But I think the Acer and
Speaker 1: Asus are going to be probably the two brands that
Speaker 1: you want to look at for these inexpensive computers. I
Speaker 1: think those are going to be your best option. If
Speaker 1: you want to go with a chromebook again, I would
Speaker 1: also recommend Acer. They have some great chromebooks. The nice
Speaker 1: thing about the Chromebook is that the software is going
Speaker 1: to last a long time. It's going to be fine. Now,
Speaker 1: Jackie said he didn't really want to tinker on this stuff,
Speaker 1: but if you wanted to, if you wanted to just
Speaker 1: see if you can do something, you might check out
Speaker 1: what's called Chrome os Flex. And this is a an
Speaker 1: operating system that is free. It comes from Google, and
Speaker 1: it will kind of turn your old Acer into a Chromebook.
Speaker 1: And this is something that you know, if you mess
Speaker 1: up and it doesn't work, you know you're going to
Speaker 1: get a new laptop.
Speaker 2: Anyway, but maybe just try it.
Speaker 1: If this computer still has enough processing power to actually,
Speaker 1: you know, handle what you need to do, it may
Speaker 1: be another option. The other thing I'd recommend is maybe
Speaker 1: just look at an iPad. I know you said you
Speaker 1: didn't want to learn something new, but you've got a
Speaker 1: smartphone that is halfway smart. An iPad would probably be
Speaker 1: another way to go. That's kind of a nice thing
Speaker 1: to do, so I would take a look at those
Speaker 1: things and see if they work for you. You can
Speaker 1: get a keyboard for the iPad. And with the iPad,
Speaker 1: the advantage there is that you've got the access to
Speaker 1: all of the modern apps and so you'll still have
Speaker 1: Safari on there so you can surf the web, but
Speaker 1: you'll also have all of the apps that you need,
Speaker 1: including email apps and everything like that. So I think
Speaker 1: that those options, hopefully under five hundred dollars, will be
Speaker 1: a pretty good deal and it will last at least
Speaker 1: another hopefully five years or so. All Right, thanks so
Speaker 1: much for the call, Jack, appreciate it. More of your
Speaker 1: calls coming up at eight eight eight rich.
Speaker 2: One oh one.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. This is the show
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Speaker 1: zero one. Email hello at richontech dot TV. Andrea writes
Speaker 1: in I'm a long time Samsung smartphone user and I
Speaker 1: have an older Samsung tablet. Well, the one plus pad
Speaker 1: that we just talked about be a good tablet replacement
Speaker 1: for mine.
Speaker 2: Love your program kindly, Andrea. I think so.
Speaker 1: I think that the one plus tablet is a really
Speaker 1: strong contender. But here's the thing I'm going to caution you.
Speaker 1: You gotta wait at least a couple of weeks. So
Speaker 1: Google is having this event called Google Io, and that
Speaker 1: happens on Wednesday, May tenth, so they are expected to
Speaker 1: announce new hardware. They've already said that they're coming out
Speaker 1: with the tablet this year called the Pixel Tablet, and
Speaker 1: they announced it back in October. We haven't heard a
Speaker 1: word about it since then, so I am guessing that
Speaker 1: on May tenth they are finally going to tell us
Speaker 1: more details about when this is arriving and how much
Speaker 1: it's going to cost, and also the specs of this tablet.
Speaker 1: So if you can hold off another two weeks, then
Speaker 1: you can properly compare the new one plus tablet to
Speaker 1: the Pixel tablet, decide which one is a better price,
Speaker 1: which one has the better features for you. But I think,
Speaker 1: no matter what, these are two strong Android tablets for
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three and moving forward. We have not had
Speaker 1: a really good Android tablet that's not Samsung in a
Speaker 1: very long time. With this clean software that US techies like,
Speaker 1: not a lot of bloatwear, not a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: to hold you back, not a lot of apps you
Speaker 1: don't need. That's what we like about this stuff. Good question, Andrea,
Speaker 1: Thanks for emailing. All right, Scott Kay's gonna join me
Speaker 1: this hour. He is the founder of going dot com.
Speaker 1: This is a website that sends you email alone about
Speaker 1: travel deals. So if you want to travel somewhere for cheap,
Speaker 1: this is the website that will help you do that,
Speaker 1: and it's it's really cool stuff. Scott is a he'll
Speaker 1: tell you a great story about how he got started
Speaker 1: in all this stuff. So Scott will join me this hour.
Speaker 1: Let's go to John in Moore Park. John, you're on
Speaker 1: with Rich.
Speaker 9: Okay, I'm Rich.
Speaker 3: Hi.
Speaker 9: I have a friend of mine who has a she
Speaker 9: has a a iPhone and an iPad, and I need
Speaker 9: your advice on a password manager.
Speaker 2: Oh is that all they use?
Speaker 8: It's all they are, Okay.
Speaker 1: So in that case I rarely recommend this. But in
Speaker 1: that case, if you're only using Apple stuff, I think
Speaker 1: that the built in Apple keychain. Gosh, what do they
Speaker 1: call it? I gotta I gotta see what they call it.
Speaker 1: So it's the Apple let's see Apple password manager. It's
Speaker 1: built in to Safari, okay, and it's called oh here
Speaker 1: it is iCloud keychain, that's what they call it. And
Speaker 1: so this is their version of a password manager. And
Speaker 1: it basically will generate secure passwords. If you use an
Speaker 1: iPhone or if you use Safari, you've probably seen this
Speaker 1: pop up and it says would you like us to
Speaker 1: generate and save a secure password for you? And you
Speaker 1: can say yes, and it will sync across all of
Speaker 1: your devices. So if you're signed into iCloud on an iPad,
Speaker 1: on a maccomputer or an iPhone.
Speaker 2: It'll all work.
Speaker 1: Now, I give you this with the caveat that it's
Speaker 1: only good if you use Apple stuff, and not just
Speaker 1: Apple stuff, but Apple Browser as well. So if you're
Speaker 1: only using Safari, it'll work, And if you're only using
Speaker 1: the iPhone, it'll work, and if you're only using the.
Speaker 2: iPad it'll work.
Speaker 1: Otherwise, I would recommend a third party password manager. But John,
Speaker 1: you're telling me your friend only uses the iPhone and
Speaker 1: the iPad in the event.
Speaker 8: Sho go get a PC. Would there be a password
Speaker 8: manager that would work on all three?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So once you get into the cross platform stuff,
Speaker 1: I would recommend getting a cross platform password manager. The
Speaker 1: ones I like are Bitwarden. That one's a nice free
Speaker 1: one that'll be a great way to wait in. Also,
Speaker 1: this is kind of quirky too. Chrome has their own
Speaker 1: password manager as well, But the quirk about that is
Speaker 1: that it actually works on iOS and Android and the
Speaker 1: Chrome web browser, and so you can get that completely
Speaker 1: for free, you know, if you want a free option.
Speaker 1: So the free options again are the iCloud key chain.
Speaker 1: Only if you're using Apple stuff and Safari, Chrome will
Speaker 1: work if you're using the Chrome web browser, but also
Speaker 1: an iPhone that'll work nicely. And then Bitwarden will work
Speaker 1: for free across all of these platforms for free. Now,
Speaker 1: if you want to get into something that's paid, I
Speaker 1: like dash Lane, and a lot of folks like like
Speaker 1: one password that's the number one and then the word password.
Speaker 1: But those are the password managers that I like. I
Speaker 1: think John, any of those will work. It just sort
Speaker 1: of depends what your needs are. But I always like
Speaker 1: stuff that works across various platforms because I have the
Speaker 1: option later to change my mind.
Speaker 8: I have one other question, is very show like your
Speaker 8: show on Sundays? I mean, I listen to KFI.
Speaker 2: I don't believe there is at this point. I mean
Speaker 2: I know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my show is just Saturdays at this point, so
Speaker 1: we're doing just Saturdays.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I work on KTLA during the week, so obviously I
Speaker 1: am there and then I'm here on Saturday. The Sunday
Speaker 1: option is just a little bit too much. So there
Speaker 1: are plenty of tech shows out there, obviously, lots of podcasts,
Speaker 1: but not on KFI as far as I know. Of course,
Speaker 1: this show goes nationwide on different stations. So depending on
Speaker 1: where you're listening, of course, it may not be KFI,
Speaker 1: maybe a different station where you are. But John, I
Speaker 1: appreciate that you're here trying to get me in more
Speaker 1: places and more times.
Speaker 2: I do like that.
Speaker 1: So thanks so much for calling today, and get your
Speaker 1: friends set up with the password manager. I love the
Speaker 1: fact that you're looking out for them, because everyone should
Speaker 1: be using a password manager.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk Amazon.
Speaker 1: I've been telling you that they have discontinued one of
Speaker 1: their smart devices. It is the Amazon Halo. This is
Speaker 1: a smart tracker that I'm not sure it ever really
Speaker 1: took off. I never did a formal review on it,
Speaker 1: although I've talked about it in my segments just to
Speaker 1: help people be aware of it, but I've never actively
Speaker 1: recommended this. They were very inexpensive. They came out a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. But Amazon says they are going
Speaker 1: to discontinue the Amazon Halo effective July thirty first, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three. So in the last twelve months, if you
Speaker 1: bought the Halo View, the Halo Band, the Halo Rise,
Speaker 1: or any Halo accessory bands, Amazon is going to automatically
Speaker 1: ref fund you if you prepaid your Halo subscription, you
Speaker 1: will be automatically refunded. Now, if you have a subscription
Speaker 1: that is monthly, you're not going to get charged anymore.
Speaker 2: Now here's the date.
Speaker 1: Beginning August twenty first, twenty twenty three, these Halo devices
Speaker 1: and the Halo app will no longer function. That means
Speaker 1: if you have your health data inside this app and
Speaker 1: you want to keep it, you might want to download it,
Speaker 1: so you can download that through the Halo app. You
Speaker 1: can also download any images that you took. You have
Speaker 1: until August first, basically, so effective July thirty first, not
Speaker 1: going to work anymore. August first, it's totally gone. So
Speaker 1: you probably want to plan now. If you use this thing,
Speaker 1: you've got April, May, June, July, you got a couple
Speaker 1: of months to get your affairs in order. With this
Speaker 1: Amazon Halo you can also recycle the device if you
Speaker 1: don't want to keep it. Amazon will give you a
Speaker 1: recycling label for free. They have a link. I'll put
Speaker 1: it up on my website tech dot tv in the
Speaker 1: show notes. This is show number seventeen, so if you're
Speaker 1: looking for it, you can find it in the show notes.
Speaker 2: So why did they discontinue it?
Speaker 1: Well, let's see, the Apple Watch is very popular, the
Speaker 1: fitbits are very popular, the Galaxy watches are sort of popular.
Speaker 1: But this just didn't really fit into what Amazon is
Speaker 1: doing at this point. Now, they recently came out that
Speaker 1: Halo Rise, which was a bedside sort of alarm clock,
Speaker 1: sort of fitness tracker that tracked your sleep. So I
Speaker 1: don't think Amazon was successful in this area. I think
Speaker 1: that they had a lot of controversy with these devices
Speaker 1: because it's Amazon. People don't necessarily trust Amazon with their data,
Speaker 1: and that's what happened here. I think people just said, eh,
Speaker 1: these things, I don't know Amazon is, you know, It's.
Speaker 2: Just not the company I want tracking all of my stuff.
Speaker 1: In fact, the big controversy with the Halo devices is
Speaker 1: when they first came out, they could actually see what
Speaker 1: your mood was based on your voice. So this little
Speaker 1: device had a microphone on it that would listen to
Speaker 1: you throughout the day and tell you that you sounded
Speaker 1: a certain way. And I forget what the qualifications were like,
Speaker 1: what the different like, you know, if you sounded angry
Speaker 1: or if you sounded concerned or anxious.
Speaker 2: Whatever they were.
Speaker 1: People were very upset about this, and I remember reporting
Speaker 1: about it, and I thought it was kind of cool
Speaker 1: because if you're treating people a certain way throughout the
Speaker 1: day and it's like, did you know that you were
Speaker 1: sounding sterned throughout your day? Not very good. So that's
Speaker 1: what happened with the Amazon stuff. Amazon Halo going away
Speaker 1: on July thirty first. So if you have it, download
Speaker 1: your data, get that data into you know, into your files,
Speaker 1: and get your photos out of it.
Speaker 2: But kind of sad.
Speaker 1: But if you bought one of these things in the
Speaker 1: last twelve months, not that big of a deal because
Speaker 1: they're going to refund your money. So Amazon and Google,
Speaker 1: I don't understand what their deal is, but they love
Speaker 1: to discontinue stuff. I mean Amazon has closed entire stores,
Speaker 1: like they had all these bookstores and these four star
Speaker 1: stores or five star stores or if they called them
Speaker 1: and just gone overnight. They just close them up and
Speaker 1: that's it. Shut the doors. Google same way, they just
Speaker 1: really discontinue a lot of stuff. They come out with
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, then they discontinue a.
Speaker 2: Lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: So there you have it. Get a fitbit. I guess
Speaker 1: that's the new replacement for the Amazon Halo, all right,
Speaker 1: coming up, we're going to talk about travel deals and
Speaker 1: I've got my review of Ring's new dash cam, so
Speaker 1: I installed this dash cam. By the way, Ring is
Speaker 1: an Amazon company, but it's one of the few products
Speaker 1: I actually recommend from Amazon because they seem like they've
Speaker 1: got some good sort of momentum behind these Ring products,
Speaker 1: so I don't think they're going to get rid of
Speaker 1: those anytime soon. So we're going to talk about the
Speaker 1: Ring dash cam. That is a device that is a
Speaker 1: little bit more expensive than your standard dash cam, but
Speaker 1: it's pretty good and I like it a lot, and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you all about that. That's a two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars dashcam.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And we also have our travel expert coming up, Scott
Speaker 1: Kay's is going to talk about how to find travel deals.
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Speaker 1: one zero one. My name is Rich Dumiro. You are
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Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology. Welcome
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Speaker 1: A Rich one on one. That's eight eight eight two
Speaker 1: four to one zero one. Gary is in Riverside. Gary,
Speaker 1: You're on with Rich.
Speaker 3: Gary?
Speaker 2: Are you there? Gary? One two three? Don't hear you?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we'll try to find if we can get
Speaker 1: Gary back on. Okay, let's go to a question via email.
Speaker 1: Let's see Hello. That's at Hello at Richontech dot TV.
Speaker 1: So good afternoon, Rich. I have the one plus eight
Speaker 1: pro my twenty twenty two Prius XL E didn't come
Speaker 1: with Android Auto? Is there a way to install or
Speaker 1: use Android Auto on my car? Many many thanks, Wallace
Speaker 1: in rolland Heights, California. So it's interesting. I know that
Speaker 1: some models of the Prius I thought they came with
Speaker 1: Android Auto, but I guess the XL does not, So
Speaker 1: that's not ideal. But what I would do is just
Speaker 1: mount your phone in your car and use it that way.
Speaker 1: And there's a company that I really like that that
Speaker 1: makes really good mounts for your car. Oh here it
Speaker 1: is pro clip pro Clip USA. So these are mounts
Speaker 1: that are really kind of custom made for your specific
Speaker 1: car model, and so it'll really hold your phone nicer
Speaker 1: than say, you know, a random vent mount or something
Speaker 1: that you get. So if you go onto PROCLIPUSA dot
Speaker 1: com and then you can build your car mount and
Speaker 1: so you can select your model. You've got a Toyota Prius.
Speaker 1: Let's go through and build this. So Toyota Prius, and
Speaker 1: what I love about these is that they're they almost
Speaker 1: look like it's like a custom kind of thing. So
Speaker 1: let's go to the Preus twenty twenty two. And so
Speaker 1: what you do as you start with a base and
Speaker 1: so this is a Toyota Prius angled dash mount. So
Speaker 1: you start with the base and then you get your holder.
Speaker 1: So once you add that to your car, then you
Speaker 1: can get a phone and device holder. And so you
Speaker 1: get a specific device holder for your phone. So we'll
Speaker 1: go for a phone. We'll go to one plus, which
Speaker 1: of course they have and you have the eight as
Speaker 1: you say eight or eight pro. Let's see you got
Speaker 1: eight pro. So we go to eight pro and you
Speaker 1: press next, and so basically they will give you do
Speaker 1: you want integrated charging, so you can do charging or
Speaker 1: non integrated charging, and it's like a little dock for
Speaker 1: your car. So I'm gonna go with integrated charging. See
Speaker 1: device holders, and there you go. It's got the charging
Speaker 1: holder for small to medium cases for this device, and
Speaker 1: that's one hundred dollars. And so you're looking at one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five dollars, which I know that's a lot,
Speaker 1: but it will give you a much cleaner professional installation
Speaker 1: for that Prius. And so once you have that, then
Speaker 1: you can just ask Google Assistant to go into driving
Speaker 1: mode or on Google Maps, just open it up and
Speaker 1: enter driving mode that way. And so they used to
Speaker 1: have with Assistant where you can go into like sort
Speaker 1: of a driving mode on Google Assistant. I can't seem
Speaker 1: to find that anymore, but you might want to do
Speaker 1: a little bit of research about Google Assistant driving mode
Speaker 1: because they used to have Android Auto where you can
Speaker 1: actually just activate it on your phone, and it looked
Speaker 1: pretty well, looked just like the Android Auto you'd get
Speaker 1: built into your car, and then they got rid of
Speaker 1: that and they went to like this web based version,
Speaker 1: so no matter what. Android is pretty good about activating
Speaker 1: Android Auto in your car and making your phone work
Speaker 1: very seamlessly for that purpose of driving. And so I
Speaker 1: just asked Google, you know, activate driving mode, and it
Speaker 1: looked pretty good, Like the buttons get bigger, gives your
Speaker 1: options for music and things like that.
Speaker 2: So that's what I would do. So good question.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry that the Android Auto is not built in,
Speaker 1: because I do think that every car should have Android
Speaker 1: Auto and car Play built in to give you that nice,
Speaker 1: clean install All right, let me give you my review
Speaker 1: of the Ring dash cam. This is a simple way
Speaker 1: to add, as I've found out, security and peace of
Speaker 1: mind to your car. It's two hundred and fifty dollars
Speaker 1: plus an optional subscription, but as I learned, you pretty
Speaker 1: much need the six dollars monthly subscription to make this
Speaker 1: thing worth it. You've got HD cameras front and back.
Speaker 1: They give you a nice wide angle point of view.
Speaker 1: The camera clarity is just fine. It's nothing special. I
Speaker 1: think that the next version will probably be a lot
Speaker 1: better installation, much easier than I expected. But you have
Speaker 1: to know there's no way to power this except running
Speaker 1: a cable to what's called the OBD two port and
Speaker 1: so not every car is going to be compatible with this.
Speaker 1: It does run down the battery on your car sometimes,
Speaker 1: so you do have to be aware of that. Newer
Speaker 1: ca you drive more are gonna work better with this setup.
Speaker 1: The camera records when you drive, so it's doing a
Speaker 1: continuous loop. It'll record when it senses movement to your car,
Speaker 1: not motion, but movements.
Speaker 2: Your car has to move for it to trigger recording.
Speaker 1: You can also trigger a manual recording when your car
Speaker 1: stop by saying alex A record and you know what
Speaker 1: I mean by alex A. Just like the video door bell,
Speaker 1: you can take a look inside or outside your car
Speaker 1: at any time, which is really cool. There's a status
Speaker 1: light that appears on the camera in the car to
Speaker 1: let people inside the car no you're looking in on them.
Speaker 1: There's also a flip up privacy shutter. You flip that
Speaker 1: up and all video and audio stops. So again, unless
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay for the subscription, you've got to be
Speaker 1: prepared to do that because otherwise the best features of
Speaker 1: this thing don't work. So ring carcam read my full
Speaker 1: review rich on tech dot TV.
Speaker 2: But I love it.
Speaker 1: I think it's really, really cool if you don't mind
Speaker 1: spending the money and having that subscription. All right, coming up,
Speaker 1: we're talking travel deals right here, rich on Tech. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking technology
Speaker 1: with you. So we were talking about Android Auto and
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out where this is hidden. Now,
Speaker 1: so you got to go in Google Maps. It's kind
Speaker 1: of weird, but you have to turn this on and
Speaker 1: then you say h, Google Activate Driving Mode and or
Speaker 1: turn on driving Mode, and it'll bring you into Google Maps.
Speaker 1: And once you're in Google Maps and you navigate somewhere,
Speaker 1: you'll see at the bottom of your screen it'll have
Speaker 1: like a little app launcher and you can access your
Speaker 1: commonly used apps, like all the audio apps and then calls,
Speaker 1: messages and media. So again, the way to do it
Speaker 1: is to just say h Google Activate Driving Mode and
Speaker 1: that will do it. So you get that set up
Speaker 1: in your car and it's pretty much like having Android Auto,
Speaker 1: just to a little less integrated version of it. All right,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk travel deals. Scott Key's is founder
Speaker 1: and CEO of going dot Com, one of a handful
Speaker 1: of websites that can send you deals for airfares, like
Speaker 1: really incredible deals as they find them.
Speaker 2: Scott, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Great to be with you, Rich, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: So you are sort of a pro traveler at this point,
Speaker 1: tell me about how you got started on this whole
Speaker 1: world of travel. You found like a really good travel
Speaker 1: deal at one point.
Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, it was very serendipitously. You know, there's
Speaker 3: not a degree in college for cheap flight studies. But
Speaker 3: I was one of those folks who grew up who
Speaker 3: had no idea how to find cheap flights. I felt
Speaker 3: like everybody else around me was finding them and I
Speaker 3: just couldn't do it. So as I just was very
Speaker 3: intrigued by this question, actually ended up spending a lot
Speaker 3: of time on years researching how to find flights. And
Speaker 3: then I'll culment it had been in twenty thirteen when
Speaker 3: I found the best deal I'd ever personally gotten in
Speaker 3: my life is NonStop from New York City to Milan
Speaker 3: for one hundred and thirty dollars round trip round trip
Speaker 3: Poulter on United NonStop, included check bags, the whole works.
Speaker 3: I think they meant to sell that for thirteen hundred
Speaker 3: dollars and forgot a zero at the end. But because
Speaker 3: I purchased it in the time when it was lifted
Speaker 3: at one hundred and thirty dollars, that's the price I paid,
Speaker 3: and that's what I ended up being able to take
Speaker 3: an Italian vacation for. And so when I got back,
Speaker 3: you know, it was a wonderful time up in Italy,
Speaker 3: like Como skiing in the Alps. When I got back
Speaker 3: from this trip, all my friends and coworkers kept coming
Speaker 3: up to me, Hey, Scott, I heard about that great
Speaker 3: deal you got. Listen, next time you find a deal
Speaker 3: like that, can you let me know so I can
Speaker 3: get in on it too, And so that is how
Speaker 3: going dot com eventually, that's its origin. That's how it
Speaker 3: began a way to let my friends know anytime I
Speaker 3: found a cheap flight. And it's obviously grown quite a
Speaker 3: bit since those humble origins eight nine years ago.
Speaker 2: So it used to be called Scott's Cheap Flights.
Speaker 1: Now it's going The website is going dot com, and
Speaker 1: you sign up with your email and there's a free
Speaker 1: level of service which will give you some deals. Of course,
Speaker 1: you can pay to get more deals and more customized deals.
Speaker 1: But the reality is, how is this working? Scott you're
Speaker 1: scanning airfares twenty four to seven and looking for.
Speaker 3: What essentially yeah, so airfair. The important thing to know
Speaker 3: about airfare is that it's one of the most volatile
Speaker 3: things that we purchase in our daily lives. It's not
Speaker 3: like a gallon of milk, where the price you paid
Speaker 3: for it yesterday is about the price today, and it's
Speaker 3: going to be about the price tomorrow. Airfair is constantly
Speaker 3: pinging around. I mean, I remember watching a flight once
Speaker 3: from Atlanta to Amsterdam on Monday. When I searched for it,
Speaker 3: it was eight hundred dollars on trip. Did the same
Speaker 3: search on Tuesday. The next day three hundred dollars round trip.
Speaker 3: Did that search again the next day on Wednesday, thirteen
Speaker 3: hundred dollars round trip. We're talking about the exact same flight.
Speaker 3: And so that's why I think airfare, because it's one
Speaker 3: of those things that's incredibly volatile and incredibly taxing. Trying
Speaker 3: to figure out, you know, this is a good price,
Speaker 3: will it drop, will it go up? But also knowing
Speaker 3: that if you want to travel more than a state
Speaker 3: or two away, you're almost certainly going to need a flight.
Speaker 3: I think that's why it creates a unique headache for people,
Speaker 3: and so that's where going comes in, being able to
Speaker 3: make sure that you're not going to miss out on
Speaker 3: a great deal because you didn't happen to be searching
Speaker 3: for those you know, that specific route on those specific
Speaker 3: dates at the right time. That Milan deal I got
Speaker 3: was only available for a few hours, and so if
Speaker 3: you didn't know about it during that period when it
Speaker 3: was available, you would have missed out on. And that's
Speaker 3: what we want to make sure that our members don't
Speaker 3: miss out on those great days.
Speaker 1: And there's generally two types of flight deals. It's unadvertised.
Speaker 1: They're just having a deal on the you know, the
Speaker 1: airfare goes down, and you know, if you're not searching
Speaker 1: for that specific time or date, you would never know.
Speaker 1: And then the second way is these mistake deals. So
Speaker 1: can you talk about the types of deals that you
Speaker 1: have on your site and if I book a mistake fair,
Speaker 1: am I gonna be able to take that fair?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? So let's start with the unadvertised sales. These are
Speaker 3: really our bread and potter. You know, ninety five percent
Speaker 3: of the deals that we find and send members are
Speaker 3: when the price drops significantly from the normal price. But
Speaker 3: the airlines meant to do that. You know, just in
Speaker 3: the past couple of weeks, we had flights just last
Speaker 3: week over to Europe to places like Bologna, Northern Italy, Vienna, Prague, Zurich,
Speaker 3: Amsterdam for about three hundred and eighty six dollars round
Speaker 3: trip on full service airlines, or flights over to a
Speaker 3: Beza for three hundred and forty four bucks round trip.
Speaker 3: Those were those were the prices of the airlines meant
Speaker 3: to send. But every once in a while they do
Speaker 3: make a mistake, like they did with this trip to Milan,
Speaker 3: like they did earlier this year with flights to South
Speaker 3: America to Peru or Ecuador, Colombia for one hundred and
Speaker 3: thirty eight dollars round trip. And the funny thing is
Speaker 3: when that happens, a it only lasts as long as
Speaker 3: sintil the airline's able to fix it. But b most
Speaker 3: of the time, I'm talking eighty five ninety percent of time,
Speaker 3: the airlines actually honor that there they don't cancel the ticket.
Speaker 3: And the reason why is that they've come to realize
Speaker 3: that these social media backlash they're going to get if
Speaker 3: they cancel a lot of people's tickets is not necessarily
Speaker 3: worth the headache, worth the whatever financial cost they had
Speaker 3: to pay from folks getting that great deal. But on
Speaker 3: the flip side, they actually get some amount of social
Speaker 3: media benefit went from those mistake fars every once in
Speaker 3: a while, because the person who bought that one hundred
Speaker 3: and thirty six dollars round trip flight to Peru or
Speaker 3: to Columbia is now going you know, nobody buys that
Speaker 3: ticket and then just quietly goes about their day. They're
Speaker 3: telling everybody about the ticket. You know, they're saying the
Speaker 3: airline where they got it, and that might increase the
Speaker 3: airlines kind of brand, the likelihood that somebody might purchase
Speaker 3: from them in the future. And so I think, I like,
Speaker 3: I like to think about these mistakes theres a little
Speaker 3: bit more holistically, and that's why they end up honoring
Speaker 3: them most of the time. There are are times when
Speaker 3: they cancel it and it's unfortunate. Usually, though, when that happens,
Speaker 3: that's going to happen in the first few days after.
Speaker 3: It's not as though it's going to happen right before
Speaker 3: your trip and all of a sudden the airline pulls
Speaker 3: the rugout.
Speaker 1: Okay, what about all these things we hear about. There's
Speaker 1: so many like, you know, you got to use a
Speaker 1: VPN to book your flight, You got a book a
Speaker 1: flight on a Tuesday, you gotta wake up early in
Speaker 1: the morning. Do any of those things really work or
Speaker 1: you know, my advice to people generally when they're booking
Speaker 1: flights is if the price seems right to you and
Speaker 1: you're ready to book, go ahead and book it. You know,
Speaker 1: like it kind of like depends on the person, and
Speaker 1: if you feel like it's fair. Yes, it can always
Speaker 1: go down, it can always go up. But you know,
Speaker 1: what's your advice for people booking flights.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So there are a lot of those sort of
Speaker 3: huh retread myths about airfare that I think are a
Speaker 3: product of the fact that airfare is so volatile and
Speaker 3: seems like it makes no sense, and so we jump
Speaker 3: to sort of stock conclusions almost as a modern you know,
Speaker 3: twenty per century rain dance. Oh I did this dance
Speaker 3: and then it rained, Therefore my dance must have caused
Speaker 3: it to rain. I think that's the way a lot
Speaker 3: of people view, you know, searching for flights when when
Speaker 3: it changed, they think, oh, they must be tracking my cookies.
Speaker 3: Oh if I search an incognito would be different. We
Speaker 3: search for, you know, millions of airfares every single day.
Speaker 3: If anybody was going to notice fairs changing because of
Speaker 3: our searches, it would be us. But we don't see that,
Speaker 3: and instead, actually a brand that I did an experiment
Speaker 3: on this one search for from Denver to to Iceland,
Speaker 3: excuse me, Denver to London for and when the first
Speaker 3: time I searched it was four hundred and forty one
Speaker 3: dollars round trip. Second time I searched four hundred and
Speaker 3: forty one dollars round trip. I searched that one hundred
Speaker 3: times in a row. And we've got video of this
Speaker 3: on YouTube. On the one hundred search, just like the
Speaker 3: first search, still four hundred and forty one dollars round trip.
Speaker 3: The interesting thing though about that, you know, searching on
Speaker 3: Tuesday one pm or whatnot, if that's one that actually
Speaker 3: used to be true twenty years ago when airlines first
Speaker 3: started selling their tickets online, that they would load their
Speaker 3: fares typically once a week at a predetermined time, like
Speaker 3: say Tuesday at one pm. And so if you were
Speaker 3: one of the first people to search for those plates
Speaker 3: to buy a ticket right after they loaded, you would
Speaker 3: have first crack at those cheapest fares. The problem is
Speaker 3: that's not how airfare has been handled for years now.
Speaker 3: Nowadays it changes algorithmically. It's constantly repricing rather than somebody
Speaker 3: just changing the price once a week. And so the
Speaker 3: good news is that, look, if you want to search
Speaker 3: at Tuesday one PMO, if you want to search an
Speaker 3: incognito mode or clear cookies, it's not going to hurt airfare.
Speaker 3: It's just not going to do anything to actually make
Speaker 3: flights cheaper. To do that, there are a lot of
Speaker 3: different sort of best practices, like getting the timing of
Speaker 3: your book, where booking a certain period in advance of travel,
Speaker 3: usually about two to six months in advance, depending on
Speaker 3: the trip is kind of the sweet spot where cheap
Speaker 3: flights are most likely to pop up.
Speaker 2: All right, Scott, we're going to leave it there.
Speaker 1: Scott Key's founder and CEO of going dot com. Thanks
Speaker 1: so much for joining me today.
Speaker 3: Great to be on rich. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to do the thing where I ask
Speaker 1: all the people on the plane around me, like how
Speaker 1: much did you pay for your seat? How much did
Speaker 1: you pay for your seat? How much did you pay
Speaker 1: for your seat? I'm going to do that one day.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll put a link to the cheap airfare
Speaker 1: alerts on my website. Just go to rich on Tech
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Speaker 1: to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Rich Tamuro here talking technology with you. Let's go to
Speaker 1: Gary in Riverside. We tried this earlier.
Speaker 2: Gary. Are you there?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Do you got me? Now?
Speaker 2: I got you loud and clear. What's up?
Speaker 9: Man?
Speaker 4: I don't know what the heck I did. That's modern technology, right.
Speaker 1: I told you it needs to work when it needs
Speaker 1: to work, and it didn't work when you needed it
Speaker 1: to work.
Speaker 4: I must have hit the mute button by accident on
Speaker 4: my iPhone. I got a brand new iPhone.
Speaker 2: Oh nice, I.
Speaker 4: Got a trip. I've got a simple question that you
Speaker 4: I know you know a lot about, as you know.
Speaker 4: In October of twenty twenty five, the Windows ten will
Speaker 4: no longer get support.
Speaker 2: Right, correct?
Speaker 4: I have three old computers to ulip packer laptops. Those
Speaker 4: are thirteen years old, and I have a Samsung laptop
Speaker 4: that is eight years old. If there's no way that
Speaker 4: you can put the new Windows eleven into them to
Speaker 4: make them work, right, are can you?
Speaker 2: Unlikely?
Speaker 1: Maybe with the one that's maybe with the one that's
Speaker 1: eight years old.
Speaker 4: But I doubt it now I kind of Yeah, I
Speaker 4: wanted to ask, you know, I listened to you A
Speaker 4: lot of I didn't know about it. Even a lot
Speaker 4: of my friends don't even know about that that it's
Speaker 4: going to go.
Speaker 1: Under Well, yeah, I mean, look, it's you know, Windows
Speaker 1: ten came out in twenty fifteen, so it's you know,
Speaker 1: it gave it ten years and it's a pretty good lifespan.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 1: They obviously gave a lot of people the update to
Speaker 1: Windows eleven. If your computer can handle it, not every
Speaker 1: computer can because they kind of increase the security requirements
Speaker 1: for that, and so some of the systems that don't
Speaker 1: have these chips, they just won't be able to upgrade
Speaker 1: to Windows eleven.
Speaker 2: So what to do?
Speaker 1: So, Gary, are you a computer tinker at all?
Speaker 3: Or no.
Speaker 1: Kind of Okay, So I mean there's one option that
Speaker 1: I would recommend if you want to get Now we're
Speaker 1: talking you still have a year and a half.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't have to do this today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm just you know, so in that time,
Speaker 1: obviously you have you're talking three computers. Now, of course,
Speaker 1: these computers are not going to cease to work. The
Speaker 1: big thing that's going to happen is that there's no
Speaker 1: more security updates for these and now Microsoft may change
Speaker 1: their mind in the next year and a half and
Speaker 1: they may say, you know what, we're going to do
Speaker 1: another six months of security updates because we noticed that
Speaker 1: a lot of people are still on these systems, right,
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen that happen before, it could happen again.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The other thing is, you know, you can plan for
Speaker 1: a new computer in that time, and you know you
Speaker 1: have three of them, so that's a little bit trickier,
Speaker 1: but you know that's that's coming up. But there's something
Speaker 1: called Chrome os Flex and this is this basically would
Speaker 1: turn your computer into a Chrome book. And so I
Speaker 1: talk about this on the show a lot because if
Speaker 1: you have an older computer that you still want to
Speaker 1: get some use out of it's not a bad way
Speaker 1: to do that, and right right, you can install it yourself.
Speaker 1: It's free.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: When I first tested this couple, probably when it was
Speaker 1: first announced a year ago or so, it uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a little buggy, little little wonky. I have not
Speaker 1: tried it since, but I imagine that it's gotten a
Speaker 1: lot better. And so that's you know, maybe try this
Speaker 1: on one of your machines and see what you think
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 4: Right right right, Okay, that sounds that sounds good.
Speaker 1: And I'd say try it on the oldest one. Let's
Speaker 1: just you know, get all this stuff off of their
Speaker 1: you know whatever. I believe you could run it right
Speaker 1: from a flash drive, so you might even try that
Speaker 1: and just just see what happens.
Speaker 2: But right right, what do you what do you do
Speaker 2: with these computers? They're still working thirteen years later?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're still working. I do my banking and everything.
Speaker 4: They've been working fine. My main is a EULID packer
Speaker 4: and uh, I've got it in front of me now it.
Speaker 7: Still works fine.
Speaker 3: Wow, I put it.
Speaker 4: I put an SSD drive in it.
Speaker 2: Wow, so makes it nice and fast.
Speaker 4: It made it go five times faster.
Speaker 1: Well, if you put an SSD drive in your computer. Gary,
Speaker 1: I think you can install Chrome OS Flex.
Speaker 4: Okay, I put them in, all three of them.
Speaker 1: Try it and see what you know. I want you
Speaker 1: to report back. That's your homework assignment.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, so chrome Chrome FX.
Speaker 1: Chrome OS Flex, Chrome Chrome Operating System Flex f l
Speaker 1: e X Okay, So look it up and you know
Speaker 1: that's your homework. Do that, install it and report back
Speaker 1: to me on what you think about it.
Speaker 4: Call you back right on. Love your show, listen to
Speaker 4: you all the time. I watch it on Channel five.
Speaker 1: Awesome, Gary, Awesome, thanks a lot, Gary, appreciate it. Okay,
Speaker 1: have a great day.
Speaker 4: Thanks for getting me back on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no problem, thank you, all right, bye bye. All right,
Speaker 2: there you have it.
Speaker 1: So I talk about this stuff because you know, if
Speaker 1: your computer's work. Look at Gary just called. He's got
Speaker 1: a computer that's thirteen years old. People are always complaining
Speaker 1: about you know, these computers don't last a long time.
Speaker 1: I got to redo my computer all the time. My computers.
Speaker 1: My dad. I gave him my old MacBook and I
Speaker 1: looked it up last time I was there, and I
Speaker 1: think it was going on ten years old, and it
Speaker 1: was just fine. Now he was complaining about a couple
Speaker 1: little things about it, this and that, but most of
Speaker 1: it was pretty simple stuff that could be fixed. And
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it was user but you
Speaker 1: know what it is. Sometimes it is you just feel
Speaker 1: like it's you know, it's not working the way you
Speaker 1: want it to. But I'm telling you, these computers can
Speaker 1: last a really long time. And there you go thirteen years.
Speaker 1: And look at Windows ten came out in July twenty ninth,
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, and it's going to be retired on October fourteenth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. So you've got a lot of time
Speaker 1: for this too to be retired. You still have a
Speaker 1: year and a half. That's ten solid years of using
Speaker 1: an operating system. By the way, you didn't have to
Speaker 1: pay for any updates for so I think that's a
Speaker 1: win in my book. And by the way, you also
Speaker 1: got Windows eleven for free. For a majority or maybe
Speaker 1: not a majority, but a large amount of those computers
Speaker 1: that were running Windows ten were able to upgrade to
Speaker 1: Windows eleven. So there you have it, all right. I
Speaker 1: told you about WhatsApp new feature. You can now run
Speaker 1: WhatsApp across multiple phones. This was announced by Meta that
Speaker 1: owns WhatsApp. This is a feature that was highly requested.
Speaker 1: In fact, when I was looking for messaging apps, I
Speaker 1: chose Telegram because I can install it on multiple phones
Speaker 1: versus WhatsApp, which is linked to one phone.
Speaker 2: You can have it on.
Speaker 1: One phone plus additional devices like a web browser, a
Speaker 1: tablet or a desktop. But you could not install it
Speaker 1: on another phone simultaneously. Well, now you can. So now
Speaker 1: you can link up up to four additional phones. You
Speaker 1: can now link your phone as up to one of
Speaker 1: four additional devices. So if you've got multiple phones, you
Speaker 1: can have your same chats on all of those phones.
Speaker 1: If you're a small business owner you've got different employees
Speaker 1: that are all using your same WhatsApp account to answer messages,
Speaker 1: you can do that. This will be available to everyone
Speaker 1: in the coming weeks. It has started to roll out,
Speaker 1: so update your WhatsApp if you don't have the ability
Speaker 1: to install it on multiple devices.
Speaker 2: It will be there soon.
Speaker 1: It's coming out over the next few weeks, so when
Speaker 1: they roll out things, it's not available to everyone at once,
Speaker 1: just to make sure that there's no issues with the rollout.
Speaker 1: But again, really really cool because WhatsApp is encrypted end
Speaker 1: to end by default. That means nobody else can read
Speaker 1: your messages, not even Meta if they wanted to. So
Speaker 1: it's highly highly secure and quite honestly, if you don't
Speaker 1: mind Meta and Facebook making the app that you use,
Speaker 1: it's a really good option. So WhatsApp now available across
Speaker 1: multiple phones. If you've been wanting that feature, it is
Speaker 1: now available.
Speaker 2: Coming up, we're gonna.
Speaker 1: Talk about headphones in the next hour, but that wraps
Speaker 1: up this hour of the show. Give me a call
Speaker 1: triple eight rich one oh one. You're listening to rich
Speaker 1: on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro
Speaker 1: here talking technology. Our number three of the show. It's
Speaker 1: about this time when I say, how did this go
Speaker 1: so fast?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: I wait six Well do I wait six or seven
Speaker 1: days to do the show every week?
Speaker 2: And then it goes by like that.
Speaker 1: Eight a eight rich one oh one eight eight eight
Speaker 1: seven four to two four to one zero one. It's
Speaker 1: all thanks to you, by the way, because you make
Speaker 1: the show. I mean I just sit here and talk.
Speaker 1: You call in with these great questions and really really
Speaker 1: make the show interesting and take it in directions that
Speaker 1: I don't think of.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just have the stories.
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about to make sure that you
Speaker 1: know about the tech stuff that's important every week, and
Speaker 1: that you're up to date. And when people ask you
Speaker 1: something and you say, oh, hey, I know about that.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I know Windows is retiring in twenty twenty five, the
Speaker 1: Windows ten.
Speaker 3: I know that.
Speaker 2: So you feel smart?
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to Peter in San Gabriel, California.
Speaker 2: Peter, you're on with Rich.
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Oh, Peter, are you there?
Speaker 1: I just said how great you were and you're leaving
Speaker 1: me hanging Peter in San Gabriel. Do you have your
Speaker 1: phone on mute? No, he's not there. All right, we'll
Speaker 1: try again with Peter. Maybe we'll come back.
Speaker 2: In the meantime. Let's see what should I tell you about?
Speaker 1: Now, let's tell you about robotic vacuum maker Nido is
Speaker 1: shutting down. So I never did a review on this
Speaker 1: robotic vacuum. I like the eye robots, but there's a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of other vacuums out there, and Nido was
Speaker 1: one of the more popular brands the other distinctively de
Speaker 1: shaped robot vacuums.
Speaker 2: But they're closing up shop.
Speaker 1: They told tech Hive that this company is being closed
Speaker 1: down despite lots of restructuring efforts. So the good news
Speaker 1: is if you have one of these robots, they are
Speaker 1: going to basically keep them running for at least five years.
Speaker 1: So spare parts and repair service will be at least
Speaker 1: five years, and the cloud services will be at least
Speaker 1: five years. So if you have one, you've got a
Speaker 1: little bit of a runway for your vacuum to still
Speaker 1: work before it totally sucks.
Speaker 2: Ha, get it.
Speaker 1: I know I'm in here by myself, you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: I just have to amuse myself. Nido was founded in
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, and a lot of people like
Speaker 1: the robots. They were reviewed pretty highly. They also were
Speaker 1: among the first to incorporate lightar technology to map out
Speaker 1: the room. But Nito going away, So if you've got one,
Speaker 1: you've got five years to plan for a new one.
Speaker 2: All right, do we have it? Looks like Peter is back?
Speaker 2: Pete be there?
Speaker 10: Yes?
Speaker 1: What happened? When we need a technology to work? It
Speaker 1: didn't work? Why are we seeing this trend?
Speaker 10: I don't know. But this phone, I don't know what
Speaker 10: it is is Okay and I have a nineteen twenty
Speaker 10: nineteen version Nissan Okay and my singer compos is the
Speaker 10: one the computer and everything. When I go to when
Speaker 10: I started with this car, I got the map actually
Speaker 10: to show up on this thing. But I don't know
Speaker 10: how I did it, but now it won't throw up
Speaker 10: when I wanted to, and it just goes through the
Speaker 10: bluetooth and it just gives me voice direction. I wanted
Speaker 10: to actually move it from the phone, like put the
Speaker 10: phone up to the side, looking on the screen.
Speaker 1: What kind of phone you said? You have an Android phone? Right,
Speaker 1: You're you're breaking up a lot, but okay, motog moto
Speaker 1: g and are you plugging the phone in or is
Speaker 1: it wireless?
Speaker 10: It's wireless. It's going on by bluetooth. And I noticed that.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me on, maybe move to a little bit
Speaker 1: of a better signal area in your home, because I'm
Speaker 1: really having trouble hearing you. But from what I'm gathering,
Speaker 1: you are trying to get your Android Auto and maps
Speaker 1: on the center console of the car, versus just having
Speaker 1: it speak the directions.
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like if your car has Android Auto
Speaker 1: and you said you have a Nissan Versa. I think
Speaker 1: you said twenty nineteen. So let's take a look if
Speaker 1: that has Android Auto. So it does look like it
Speaker 1: has it, so that's good news. What I would do
Speaker 1: is try plugging in your phone and seeing if that
Speaker 1: helps to bring up the Android Auto. The other thing
Speaker 1: you might want to do is reset the connection. So
Speaker 1: go on your dashboard, delete the Bluetooth connection between the phone,
Speaker 1: and then replug it in. Now if you are okay,
Speaker 1: So it does have wireless, so it looks like it
Speaker 1: looks like you do have some wireless connections available to
Speaker 1: you at this with this setup. But have you tried
Speaker 1: restarting all of your different Have you tried restarting all
Speaker 1: of the different connections to this like, have you tried
Speaker 1: reconnecting it?
Speaker 3: Or no?
Speaker 10: Well, as fun, it's like when I'm on a a
Speaker 10: phone call or or where I'm listening to the radio,
Speaker 10: it's it's tend to tell me the bluetooth. Okay, so
Speaker 10: look on my phone and yeah, the Bluetooth goes up.
Speaker 10: Wondering if it's the loops.
Speaker 9: On the phone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, if I need.
Speaker 10: To update or something, it keeps going out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, considering the way you're sounding on this phone calls,
Speaker 1: it sounds like it could be a problem with your phone.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it's it's almost like something is running
Speaker 1: in the background of your phone that's causing it to
Speaker 1: chop up. So a couple things I would do. Number One,
Speaker 1: on your Android phone, I would go through your list
Speaker 1: of apps and get rid of any apps that you
Speaker 1: don't recognize or don't need. Once you do that, I
Speaker 1: would go through and update all of your apps. Then
Speaker 1: I would go through and I would update the software
Speaker 1: on your device, so make sure that your software is
Speaker 1: up to date by going into your settings and updating
Speaker 1: your Android software on your phone. Once all that is done,
Speaker 1: I would then go into your settings and search for
Speaker 1: reset and then you'll get a thing for reset options,
Speaker 1: and there's this, there's an option for reset Fi Fi
Speaker 1: Mobile and Bluetooth. I would tap that and then reset
Speaker 1: all of those settings. Now, what that's going to do
Speaker 1: is it's going to clear out all of the Wi
Speaker 1: Fi and Bluetooth settings you have on your phone currently,
Speaker 1: which means you will have to connect it to your
Speaker 1: car once again. But before you do that, I would
Speaker 1: go on the versa and I would go into your
Speaker 1: profiles for your Bluetooth and I would delete my phone
Speaker 1: out of those profiles. So basically you are starting with
Speaker 1: a completely fresh slate, and then I would go through
Speaker 1: I would plug your phone in using USB. It should say, hey,
Speaker 1: we noticed you have Android Auto. Do you want to
Speaker 1: use it? And go through the setup process of pairing
Speaker 1: your phone with Android Auto and the Bluetooth, and then
Speaker 1: go ahead and play some music, make a phone call,
Speaker 1: try out the Android Auto. If it's still not working,
Speaker 1: you could have a bigger problem on your hands with
Speaker 1: your phone or the car. But if you want a
Speaker 1: troublesh the car, just get a friend that has an
Speaker 1: Android phone and plug in their phone and see if
Speaker 1: if it works. And if it does work, then you
Speaker 1: know it's your phone. But just based on Peter how
Speaker 1: you were sounding here, it sounds like it's something on
Speaker 1: your phone. I would go ahead and kind of just
Speaker 1: restart things, reset things, and see if that triggers the
Speaker 1: help that you need to get this all figured out.
Speaker 1: So good question, and hopefully you get that figured out,
Speaker 1: because there's nothing worse than your phone not working in
Speaker 1: your car. That's just not fun. And so believe me,
Speaker 1: it's happened. It's not a good thing, and you want
Speaker 1: that to work. So great question. Thanks for giving me
Speaker 1: a call today. From San Gabriel, Peter and San Gabriel.
Speaker 1: By the way, all I could think of was Peter
Speaker 1: Gabriel in your Eyes that song, because on my screen
Speaker 1: here it says Peter Gabriel. So that's all I see
Speaker 1: when I see that triple A Rich one one eight
Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two four to one zero one.
Speaker 1: If you want to get in on a phone call.
Speaker 1: Coming up later on the show, we're gonna have Lauren Dragon.
Speaker 1: She is the Wirecutter reviewer for headphones. She's gonna tell
Speaker 1: us her best picks for headphones and also talk about
Speaker 1: the over the counter hearing aids.
Speaker 2: Something I tried out this week that I think is
Speaker 2: really cool.
Speaker 1: My friend told me about it many many months ago,
Speaker 1: I think last summer, and I finally got around.
Speaker 2: To doing it.
Speaker 1: It's called cinch Cynch and I linked it up on
Speaker 1: my website rich on tech dot TV. But instead of
Speaker 1: going to exchange your pro paine tanks, you literally just
Speaker 1: download the app, fill out the form, and they will
Speaker 1: come to you and exchange your pro pain tanks. Now
Speaker 1: you might think, oh, Rich, it's gonna be so expensive,
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay No, it was like basically the same
Speaker 1: price as me lugging around the tanks to the gas
Speaker 1: station and exchanging them. And when you do that, like
Speaker 1: for me, I don't want to do any other errands
Speaker 1: because you know, these tanks are rolling around in the
Speaker 1: back of your car, and when they roll, they really
Speaker 1: roll hard. And so this was so easy. I did
Speaker 1: the form, I signed up the exchange. Whatever it costs
Speaker 1: was about the same as the gas station. If you're
Speaker 1: a first time customer, you get like a pretty good deal.
Speaker 1: It's like ten bucks for your first exchange. I left
Speaker 1: two tanks out overnight. They come to your house. I
Speaker 1: heard the truck come. I looked outside. I saw a
Speaker 1: big pickup truck with a whole bunch of pro Paine tanks.
Speaker 1: They took my old tanks, they replaced them with the
Speaker 1: new ones, and I did not have to leave my house.
Speaker 1: This is like a game changer for me because it
Speaker 1: was just so easy. Because exchanging pro Paine tanks is
Speaker 1: something I never want to do, and so the fact
Speaker 1: that I was that I had someone else come to
Speaker 1: me to do this, I felt guilty. But this is
Speaker 1: how technology works. I mean, you use an app for
Speaker 1: everything these days, and now you can use it to
Speaker 1: exchange your pro pain tanks, so it's great. I guess
Speaker 1: I can tell you on the next show because I'm
Speaker 1: planning on using the pro paine tanks tonight how the
Speaker 1: actual propine works. But again, I was very impressed. I
Speaker 1: looked up this company and my friend actually told me
Speaker 1: about it last year. Like I said, but it's in
Speaker 1: a bunch of different cities across the nation, so it's
Speaker 1: not just here in Los Angeles, but it's all across
Speaker 1: the nation. So it's run by one of the propane companies, Ameergas,
Speaker 1: I guess is the company that makes it.
Speaker 2: So I thought it was pretty cool. I don't know,
Speaker 2: you got to tell me what you think.
Speaker 1: The propane exchange was about the same price, like I said,
Speaker 1: I think it was like twenty six bucks or something.
Speaker 1: But if you want, you can also get new tanks
Speaker 1: as well. The only little catch I noticed is that
Speaker 1: if you want to leave your pro paine tanks in
Speaker 1: a more secure location, like on the side of your
Speaker 1: house behind a gate, they do charge you an extra
Speaker 1: two dollars for that. Otherwise, the propane tanks, if you
Speaker 1: leave them in front of your garage, in front of
Speaker 1: your house, that's the you know, they don't charge you
Speaker 1: any extra, so there was no delivery fee, there was
Speaker 1: no sort of like fees added on.
Speaker 2: I thought it was all very reasonable.
Speaker 1: So if you want to try this out, I know
Speaker 1: summer's coming up and it's time for grilling season. Rich
Speaker 1: on Tech dot TV, I'll put a link to the
Speaker 1: Cinch Propane Exchange.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty cool. It's one of those
Speaker 1: little errands that you know, you never get around to.
Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we're gonna talk headphones and we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about a new AI tool for Mother's Day.
Speaker 1: Plus your calls at triple eight rich one oh one.
Speaker 1: You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you,
Speaker 1: talking technology. One of my favorite topics in the world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it better be. I talk about it a lot.
Speaker 1: Triple A rich one on one eight eight eight seven
Speaker 1: four to two, four to one zero one. Coming up,
Speaker 1: I've got a great guest, Lauren Dragon. She reviews all
Speaker 1: of the headphones for Wirecutter, and you hear me mention
Speaker 1: them a lot. So we're gonna talk about some of
Speaker 1: the best picks for headphones earbuds. And also we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about those new over the counter hearing aids
Speaker 1: because that's a hot topic these days. Let's first go
Speaker 1: to Stephen in Los Angeles. Steven, you're on with Rich.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much for taking my call.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 11: So, I have a PC Windows eleven and uh, you know,
Speaker 11: Microsoft workus forces you to do the upgrades, and it
Speaker 11: this messes up my contacts. I can't access my contacts
Speaker 11: and so I'll try to redo passwords and stuff like that.
Speaker 11: And with the latest update this week, out looks completely different.
Speaker 11: It doesn't even have like the little icon thing with
Speaker 11: a two heads contact, so it's a mess.
Speaker 1: So, yes, things change with software updates, which is why
Speaker 1: people are always hesitant to do them, and so I
Speaker 1: always recommend doing the software updates. But I understand when
Speaker 1: when that happens, things change. And Outlook, I know recently
Speaker 1: on the Mac got a big make over as well,
Speaker 1: Like they just recently came out with an app and
Speaker 1: then they kind of updated it and so things did
Speaker 1: change there. But you're saying the same thing happened on PC. Now,
Speaker 1: when I use Outlook on the PC, I use the
Speaker 1: web version of it because I don't want to deal
Speaker 1: with the app at all. So I actually go to
Speaker 1: like I think it's like Owa dot Outlook dot com
Speaker 1: or something like that, and I found that the web
Speaker 1: version recently changed as well. But what's the problem. So
Speaker 1: you can't find your contacts?
Speaker 11: Well, I just brought it up and you know, hoping
Speaker 11: i'd get on the show. And so they actually do
Speaker 11: have a two personaltalle icon graphic thing and so I
Speaker 11: see all those contacts. But here's the thing. It looks
Speaker 11: like it's this contacts and the root email is. When
Speaker 11: I was sitting this up, I was just clicking and
Speaker 11: click and you click this, and so it's only I
Speaker 11: have three emails, And how do I change the root email?
Speaker 11: I can see like everything, I mean, have a setup
Speaker 11: con Outlook with Microsoft so that I have all of
Speaker 11: the other three emails.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you have to go in to your settings
Speaker 1: and add those other email addresses. So do you not
Speaker 1: have those added on here or what.
Speaker 11: I thought I did? But it looks like when I
Speaker 11: bring up contexts, the root is from like my spam
Speaker 11: email address, the one.
Speaker 1: That you give out to people that you know we're
Speaker 1: going to spam you. Well, there should be if you
Speaker 1: have multiple accounts, I'm not sure if the outlook will
Speaker 1: merge all of those different contacts into one sort of
Speaker 1: master list, but you should be able to see that
Speaker 1: you would have different lists for the different email accounts
Speaker 1: that you have there. I only have one account logged in,
Speaker 1: so I can't see if there's a way to see others.
Speaker 11: Is there a way to change though the root email
Speaker 11: address from the spam email to like my more basic
Speaker 11: email so since as email.
Speaker 1: Address, Yeah, so I would go into your settings and
Speaker 1: change the default email address and that would probably do it.
Speaker 1: So once you add all three of these that, I
Speaker 1: think that's the way to do it is change the
Speaker 1: one that's the actual default email. So it sounds like
Speaker 1: when you went through the setting, some things got changed.
Speaker 1: But if you have three different email addresses and then.
Speaker 11: I download the Microsoft three sixty five and then you're
Speaker 11: going through it, and then it just for some reason
Speaker 11: to pick my spam email address is like the root
Speaker 11: or whatever, I just said, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Sure click, and now you can't get back. Now you
Speaker 1: got to I'm the same way. I'm the one that
Speaker 1: I blast through all. I've actually gotten slower over the
Speaker 1: years because I was famous for just blasting through anything,
Speaker 1: and I realized when you blast through those menus, you
Speaker 1: got to be careful because all the settings are the
Speaker 1: best settings for the company, not necessarily for the user.
Speaker 11: Why is it that there's never enough time to do
Speaker 11: it right the first time, but there's always enough time
Speaker 11: to do it again over right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And getting back to those settings again, by the way,
Speaker 1: they try to hide them as much as possible, And
Speaker 1: so that's you know, that's.
Speaker 11: Why I'm in setting and I see system, Bluetooth devices, network, internet, personalization, apps, accounts, time, language, gaming,
Speaker 11: blah blah blah, blah blah.
Speaker 1: Well, I find your way into the setting specifically for Outlook.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we want to go through it
Speaker 1: all right here, because you know it may take you
Speaker 1: a second to find it, but I would find the
Speaker 1: setting specifically for email and Outlook, and then inside there
Speaker 1: you should see where it has your different accounts that
Speaker 1: are linked up to that specific app. And once you
Speaker 1: find that, there should be a way to either write
Speaker 1: click it, or go in there and just say this
Speaker 1: is my default and hopefully all of those contacts show up.
Speaker 1: You may also have to toggle on the fact that
Speaker 1: you want those contacts to propagate into the app, because
Speaker 1: sometimes they won't necessarily come on unless you turn them on.
Speaker 1: So hopefully that helps, Steven. I know it's it's one
Speaker 1: of these things where it's kind of like a settings
Speaker 1: thing where you just have to kind of go through
Speaker 1: get the settings the way you want them, and once
Speaker 1: you do, hopefully things will be good and you'll get
Speaker 1: your contacts back. All right, coming up, we've got Lauren Dragon.
Speaker 1: She is standing on the line ready to talk to
Speaker 1: us about headphones and earbuds and also over the counter
Speaker 1: hearing aids.
Speaker 2: You're listening to rich on Tech will be right back.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here with you talking technology, and I'm very
Speaker 1: excited for my next guest, so I'm just gonna go
Speaker 1: ahead and bring her on. Lauren Dragon is a reviewer
Speaker 1: for Wirecutter, specializing in headphones and earbuds and all the
Speaker 1: stuff that I get a lot of questions about on
Speaker 1: a daily basis.
Speaker 2: Lauren, thanks so much for joining me.
Speaker 12: Hey, thanks for having me, and you have.
Speaker 1: The distinction of being our first guest via zoom and
Speaker 1: you sound like you're right next to me here.
Speaker 13: I love it, I love it, and that is what
Speaker 13: I'm here for is good audio in all types of forms.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say if you didn't sound good
Speaker 1: and you were giving us audio recommendations, that would be
Speaker 1: a major problem.
Speaker 13: It really would, I know. So I feel like I
Speaker 13: have a reputation to polld hair.
Speaker 2: Yes you do.
Speaker 1: Okay, So tell me a little bit about what you
Speaker 1: do for Wirecutter before we get into all this stuff.
Speaker 12: Okay, So I'm a senior staff writer. I write for Wirecutter.
Speaker 13: I test headphones, earbuds, earplugs, and over.
Speaker 12: The counter hearing aids. What does that mean.
Speaker 13: It means that I do a ton of research and
Speaker 13: then we do panel testing, We do endurance testing, we
Speaker 13: do battery testing, water resistance testing, all sorts of things
Speaker 13: until we figure out what is out there that is
Speaker 13: the best thing that you can spend your money on.
Speaker 13: And since I started at Wirecutter, which was a good
Speaker 13: number of years ago, almost ten years ago now, I
Speaker 13: have tested one thy seven hundred and fifty headphones a
Speaker 13: little more now, but somewhere in there they've all been
Speaker 13: on my head.
Speaker 2: So, oh my gosh, that's a lot.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's like me with like cell phones, like for
Speaker 1: a while there was just so many phones coming out
Speaker 1: that I was just you know, testing all of them.
Speaker 1: Now it's like just Samsung iPhone and like OnePlus, so
Speaker 1: it's not that many anymore.
Speaker 2: Okay, but let's get into this stuff.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about, first off, the hot topic of
Speaker 1: over the counter hearing aids. This is new and we're
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of them. So what's your thoughts on
Speaker 1: this stuff? Tell me what we need to know about that.
Speaker 13: Okay, So there's a few key things you want to
Speaker 13: think about when you're going into this process. So the
Speaker 13: first thing is that it is going to take time
Speaker 13: for your brain to adjust to the new input. So
Speaker 13: someone actually explained this to me like this. If you've
Speaker 13: ever moved into a new apartment and every single sound
Speaker 13: you hear it wakes you up, the garbage truck outside,
Speaker 13: some creakings and the floors, and then after time, your
Speaker 13: brain kind of gets used to those sounds and you
Speaker 13: aren't really aware of it anymore. The same thing happens
Speaker 13: with hearing aids. You're boosting frequencies that your brain hasn't
Speaker 13: been listening to for a very long time, so now
Speaker 13: it sounds really weird and loud, and so the key
Speaker 13: is you need to give yourself time to acclimate. So
Speaker 13: the reason I say this is when you're looking to buy,
Speaker 13: you want to make sure you find a company that
Speaker 13: has a generous return policy.
Speaker 12: So we're talking as long as possible.
Speaker 13: So the ones that we recommend range anywhere from the
Speaker 13: very minimal thirty days to up to one hundred days.
Speaker 13: So you want to have that time to make sure
Speaker 13: it's working for you and it's not just your brain
Speaker 13: taking its time to get used to the new input.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's some really good advice.
Speaker 1: And so I know that initially there are some companies
Speaker 1: that came out with these right off the bat. It's
Speaker 1: only been like less than a year, I believe. So
Speaker 1: do you have any recommendations for brands that you like?
Speaker 12: I do.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 13: One of the ones that I really liked and that
Speaker 13: our panelists like, and I should make sure that I'm
Speaker 13: clear about this is that we worked with four different
Speaker 13: people of different genders and age groups to try all
Speaker 13: of these out and really live with them before we
Speaker 13: made any recommendations. It's very time intensive, but I wanted
Speaker 13: to make sure that we had sort of a consensus,
Speaker 13: because you know, what works for one person may not
Speaker 13: work for other people. So if I found overlap, it
Speaker 13: meant that somebody would be more likely to like these,
Speaker 13: But you know, everyone's got different needs. So one of
Speaker 13: the ones that we recommend is by Jabra Jabra Enhance Select.
Speaker 13: There's the one hundred and the two hundred. They used
Speaker 13: to be made by company called Lively. Now they're covered
Speaker 13: by Jabra, but they're the exact same thing.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen ads for those on TV
Speaker 1: like Lively. I feel like that was like a big
Speaker 1: advertiser on TV for a while.
Speaker 13: They were yeah, and now they're part of Jabra, which
Speaker 13: I think is actually kind of great because Jabra is
Speaker 13: owned by GN who also does other hearing aids that
Speaker 13: are prescription based, So they have a lot of infrastructure,
Speaker 13: which means you're going to have a lot of support,
Speaker 13: and that's why we like them.
Speaker 12: They have one hundred day.
Speaker 13: Return policy, they have a three year warranty and three
Speaker 13: years of support. So basically what that means is if
Speaker 13: you run into problems anytime you need help, you can
Speaker 13: get in touch with somebody and they will talk you
Speaker 13: through it, which is really helpful, especially if you're someone
Speaker 13: who's a little bit weird. And you know, kind of
Speaker 13: concerned about new technology. It's really great to have those.
Speaker 13: They're behind the ear and they have the little module
Speaker 13: back there, and the two hundred takes calls. The one
Speaker 13: hundred doesn't. So it's up to us to whether that's important.
Speaker 13: But the my panelists love how light they were, how
Speaker 13: good they sounded, and how versatile they were because they
Speaker 13: could also stream music, which is a big thing for people.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Now I'm looking at the price on these, you're talking
Speaker 1: about anywhere from eighteen hundred to two thousand dollars.
Speaker 12: Fifteen hundred to two thousand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so depending on whether you get the one hundreds
Speaker 1: or the two hundred's correct. So this is this is
Speaker 1: why you want that return policy because you know, this
Speaker 1: is an expensive proposition.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 13: And the thing is is that we did test some
Speaker 13: of the cheaper things out there, and I'm going to
Speaker 13: tell you the reason why the cheapest one that we
Speaker 13: recommend is three hundred and fifty per year is because
Speaker 13: the other ones were just they were going to be junk.
Speaker 13: I mean, honestly, a lot of our panelists were like,
Speaker 13: this wouldn end up in a drawer and then you're out,
Speaker 13: you know, two hundred dollars, and yeah, it's less expensive,
Speaker 13: but in the end it becomes more expensive because now
Speaker 13: you've spent money on something that squeals or has weird controls,
Speaker 13: or doesn't amplify the air, you know, the sound frequencies
Speaker 13: that you want or falls out or is uncomfortable, and
Speaker 13: that's not what you want to have. That's not what
Speaker 13: you want to have is your experience. You want to
Speaker 13: have something that is integrated into your life.
Speaker 2: So the three fifty per year, which brand is.
Speaker 12: That, that's the tweak enhance.
Speaker 13: So they're really a very basic, you know, kind of
Speaker 13: plug and play hearing aids. So we're not talking about
Speaker 13: doing a ton of we're not streaming music. You do
Speaker 13: need a phone to set it up initially, but then
Speaker 13: after that you don't need to use the app anymore.
Speaker 13: So that's great for someone who, for example, they're like, look,
Speaker 13: I don't have a smartphone, I don't want to deal
Speaker 13: with this. You can have a friend to help you
Speaker 13: set it up, and then after that you just use
Speaker 13: them like normal hearing aids. And they are you know,
Speaker 13: they're they're not splash resistant, but they do have a
Speaker 13: thirty day return policy. They do have adjustability and they
Speaker 13: have some support, which is great. So that's why we
Speaker 13: recommend those as sort of a base model, and so
Speaker 13: it really does range. I mean those are kind of
Speaker 13: behind the ears. If you want something where no one
Speaker 13: can see your hearing aids at all and it looks
Speaker 13: like you're wearing nothing, then Eargo is the way to go.
Speaker 13: The Eergo six are inside your ears and you literally
Speaker 13: cannot tell that someone's wearing them.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, so three good options there. Now let's
Speaker 1: move on to sort of headphones. So you know people
Speaker 1: want noise cancelation headphones and also earbuds. So do you
Speaker 1: have any picks for sort of noise cancelation headphones that
Speaker 1: you really like? I mean, I know, we know the
Speaker 1: Bows are like heavily advertised. Are those as good as everyone?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: I mean I had a pair of these like years ago,
Speaker 1: but now I know people like the Sony's.
Speaker 2: But what's your pick?
Speaker 13: Okay, So I'm gonna say that with some caveats. So
Speaker 13: when it comes to purely noise cancelation, so we're talking
Speaker 13: about that is your b all end all. You want
Speaker 13: the most noise cancelation possible, then yes, the Bows noise
Speaker 13: canceling seven hundred over your headphones are really great at that. However,
Speaker 13: if you want something that is more isolating, and I
Speaker 13: use this word isolating because active noise cancelation only works
Speaker 13: on lower frequency sounds, so you need to have good
Speaker 13: isolation if you want to block out voices, babies crying,
Speaker 13: things like that. So for that, I would say you'd
Speaker 13: want to actually go with the Sony W twent thousand,
Speaker 13: XM four or XM five, depending on which one you want.
Speaker 12: They're very similar.
Speaker 1: And I've used the Sony's and the Bows and I
Speaker 1: think they're both great. And I think also some of
Speaker 1: that comes down to the comfort of the actual earbuds,
Speaker 1: you know, like the or sorry, the headphone like area,
Speaker 1: Like how comfortable they are to wear for a long
Speaker 1: period of time.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's key.
Speaker 1: So people always like to know kind of like the
Speaker 1: budget stuff. So can you give me sort of your
Speaker 1: pick in like the budget areas, so like maybe budget
Speaker 1: headphones and also budget earbuds.
Speaker 13: Okay, so if we are talking budget earbuds, the Earfun
Speaker 13: free to SR have no business being twenty seven dollars,
Speaker 13: which is what they are right now. They are IBX seven.
Speaker 13: They have a wireless charging case. They have a seven
Speaker 13: hour battery. They are small, they have full touch controls,
Speaker 13: they are comfortable, and they sound good. I mean it
Speaker 13: is just I don't know how they do it, but
Speaker 13: they're fantastic little buds for very little money and you
Speaker 13: really can't go wrong with them.
Speaker 2: Ear Fun Free one S two S two S.
Speaker 13: I know these names, but luckily all of this is
Speaker 13: on the website, so if you're at all confused ny
Speaker 13: Times dot com slash wirecutter, you'll be able to find
Speaker 13: this stuff.
Speaker 12: Again.
Speaker 1: Yes, we're not expecting you to remember all of these
Speaker 1: things because we're talking about a lot here.
Speaker 2: Okay, so the ear.
Speaker 1: Funds we like, and then what about you know, sort
Speaker 1: of over the year headphones for just cheap pair, like
Speaker 1: a nice pair that you don't mind losing if you
Speaker 1: lose them.
Speaker 13: Yeah, So it'll depend on what you're looking for. So
Speaker 13: if you want noise cancelation that's actually functional, the one
Speaker 13: more Sono Flow or around one hundred dollars sometimes less,
Speaker 13: and they're very good at you know, they get about
Speaker 13: we tested about negative fifteen dB from the uh you
Speaker 13: know from your sound brings it down a bit, or
Speaker 13: if you just want some inexpensive on ears that just
Speaker 13: work the job or Elite forty five h are usually
Speaker 13: under one hundred dollars and they're comfortable and they're lightweight
Speaker 13: and they're just easy to kind of toss in a bag.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you've given us some brands that we know,
Speaker 1: some brands that we don't know. So before you just
Speaker 1: buy a pair of these things in the store, sight
Speaker 1: on scene or one of these websites that sort of
Speaker 1: forces you to buy. You know, you know those websites
Speaker 1: I'm talking about where it's like this is going on
Speaker 1: sale and it's going to be over in ten minutes.
Speaker 12: Lord, those sites, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Could just tell whenever you see a countdown time or
Speaker 1: on a site, you know it's probably not very good.
Speaker 1: The only exception is Amazon with their lightning deals. I
Speaker 1: wish they didn't do that because it confuses everyone. You know,
Speaker 1: it feels like that sense of urgency it does.
Speaker 12: And I don't like that.
Speaker 13: And also too, I think there's something about those sites
Speaker 13: that people don't realize that it's it's going to be
Speaker 13: back again, Like it's not.
Speaker 12: It's all it's all fraudulent.
Speaker 2: They're there to sell this stuff.
Speaker 1: It's not They're not going to close up the website
Speaker 1: after sixteen minutes exactly.
Speaker 13: Yeah, But to me, the most important thing when you're
Speaker 13: looking at a brand and when we recommend things, we
Speaker 13: want to make sure that the company is going to
Speaker 13: be there to support you if things go wrong. So
Speaker 13: we look at things like warranty and the customer support
Speaker 13: and their ability to respond to that kind of stuff.
Speaker 13: So it's not just the point of purchase, you know. Granted, yes,
Speaker 13: it does help in the early stages to think about
Speaker 13: like Amazon taking easy returns or best Buy, but you
Speaker 13: also want to think about the long term when you're
Speaker 13: outside of that return window and how well they actually do.
Speaker 13: So that's something that I take time to look into.
Speaker 13: Is you know, I'll sometimes just make a you know,
Speaker 13: kind of burner account and get in touch with them
Speaker 13: about something and see how they do the.
Speaker 1: Process, like a little secret shopper there. Actually, Yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you enjoy about this before we go? What do
Speaker 1: you like about testing headphones? What's fun for you about this?
Speaker 1: Since you've tested over a thousand pairs, I know, you know, I.
Speaker 13: Think the most important thing to me is I love
Speaker 13: the feeling of being able to help people and I
Speaker 13: love kind of being I kind of jokingly call myself
Speaker 13: if a headphone Yenta, because I'm matchmaking people with things
Speaker 13: that are going to be part of their day to
Speaker 13: day life. And I love getting to find out new
Speaker 13: things that people might need, and so like recently I've
Speaker 13: been looking into missiphonia and sensory processing disorders and autism
Speaker 13: and how maybe people who have audio sensitivities might have
Speaker 13: different preferences and how can I test for that? And
Speaker 13: I think that that is just so much fun to me,
Speaker 13: is kind of seeing what's new and technology and seeing
Speaker 13: how it can make people's lives easier and better.
Speaker 2: I love it. Lauren Dragon.
Speaker 1: Always fun to do stories with you for both KTLA,
Speaker 1: seeing you at CS and of course right here now
Speaker 1: on the radio show. Thanks for having the best audio
Speaker 1: of any guests so far.
Speaker 12: You are welcome. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll put a link to Lauren's reviews on
Speaker 1: my website. Just go to rich on tech dot tv
Speaker 1: for all of Lauren Dragon's Wirecutter Headphone reviews. Coming up,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about oh my gosh. We're going
Speaker 1: to close out the show. We're going to talk about
Speaker 1: a new way that you can AI.
Speaker 2: For Mother's Day.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's going to be easier to write your mom
Speaker 1: a little poem or a note with her flowers this
Speaker 1: year rich On Tech, Rich Demiro here will be right back.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging
Speaker 1: out with you talking technology. And Wow, what a great
Speaker 1: show it's been today. So many great questions, so many
Speaker 1: great stories, and I've got more more where that came from.
Speaker 1: So first off, let me start with this. So I
Speaker 1: was talking to my brother and I forget how this
Speaker 1: came up, but he was mentioning about nearby Share on Android,
Speaker 1: and nearby Share is pretty much Android's answer to airdrop.
Speaker 1: So if you have a Mac computer, well, let's put
Speaker 1: it this way. If you have an iPhone, you've probably
Speaker 1: used air drop. It's the way that you can drop
Speaker 1: or send wirelessly big files from phone to phone. So
Speaker 1: if a friend is like, hey, you just took a
Speaker 1: bunch of pictures, can he air drop those to me?
Speaker 1: You can select the pictures and send them to their
Speaker 1: phone ad hoc, which means it goes from their phone
Speaker 1: to your phone without going through a cellular network. It
Speaker 1: just goes over Wi Fi direct basically, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's Apple, so they like to rename things into their
Speaker 1: own stuff so that you don't really know what's happening.
Speaker 1: So it's really just Wi Fi direct ninety nine percent
Speaker 1: of the time, I think, and it's just sending it
Speaker 1: from Wi Fi on your phone to Wi Fi and
Speaker 1: their phone. By making that connection directly between the two phones,
Speaker 1: it's been really easy.
Speaker 2: It's super nice, it's convenient.
Speaker 1: You can send big files through it, and iPhone users
Speaker 1: love it. It also works equally well between iPads and
Speaker 1: also Mac. Now that's all great, but what if you
Speaker 1: have an Android? So Android came out with something called
Speaker 1: Nearby Share and that works from Android to and it's
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's actually even maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: better because it might use cellular for tiny files once
Speaker 1: in a while, but it kind of uses a combination
Speaker 1: of cellular, Bluetooth, and Wi Fi to get files from
Speaker 1: your phone to another Android phone. Now that's all great,
Speaker 1: but what about a PC. So that's been the trouble.
Speaker 1: You can't go from Android to a Mac, and you
Speaker 1: can't go from Android to a PC until now they
Speaker 1: now have a beta version of nearby Share for Windows.
Speaker 1: So I'm telling you this because if you want to
Speaker 1: move files between your Android device and your Windows PC. Sure,
Speaker 1: there are many ways you can do it, but this
Speaker 1: is kind of like now, the easiest, fastest, simplest way.
Speaker 1: So I'll put the link on these show notes. But
Speaker 1: it's called Nearby Share Beta for Windows, and you can
Speaker 1: install that on your Windows computer and boom. Anything you
Speaker 1: want to move from your Android phone to your Windows
Speaker 1: computer you can do.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 1: There is a version for Mac, but it is unofficial.
Speaker 1: I installed it on my computer. I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: I should have done that, but I can't recommend installing
Speaker 1: that right now because it just comes from like sort
Speaker 1: of an unknown developer.
Speaker 2: But it does work really well. So that's that now.
Speaker 1: If you don't have any of those options and you
Speaker 1: want something that's simple from Android to your computer. I
Speaker 1: tested out this device called the PNY Duo Link. So
Speaker 1: PNY is known for their memory for many years, but
Speaker 1: now this is basically a little flash drive and it's
Speaker 1: called the Duo Link. It's got two different sides. So
Speaker 1: one side is a USB C drive. The other side
Speaker 1: is USBA which is pretty much think of that as
Speaker 1: the standard USB. And so what you do is you
Speaker 1: plug the one side USBC into your phone. You copy
Speaker 1: the files that you need, maybe it's some big video
Speaker 1: files onto this little drive, and then you stick that
Speaker 1: drive into your computer and you can transfer the files.
Speaker 1: I tried this on a Samsung phone. The files I
Speaker 1: did a really big file. It transferred very very quickly,
Speaker 1: so this is not that expensive. It is twelve ninety
Speaker 1: nine for a sixty four gigabyte. It's one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty eight gigabytes for twenty dollars or two fifty six
Speaker 1: for thirty dollars. They sell them at best Buy and Amazon,
Speaker 1: and also of course directly through pn Y. The read
Speaker 1: write speed is up to two hundred megabytes per second.
Speaker 1: So if you're looking for a way to transfer big
Speaker 1: files from your phone, your Android phone to your computer,
Speaker 1: this is.
Speaker 2: A easy way.
Speaker 1: And by the way, it'll work with a Windows computer
Speaker 1: and also a Mac computer.
Speaker 2: So there you have it, pretty simple, all right.
Speaker 1: I mentioned AI for Mother's Day one eight hundred flowers
Speaker 1: dot Com has a new thing called mom Verse.
Speaker 2: It's basically chat GPT.
Speaker 1: You type in your mom's name and you say do
Speaker 1: you want a haiku, a song or a limerick, and
Speaker 1: then you say if it's your mom, your grandma or
Speaker 1: your wife. You tell them what interests they have and
Speaker 1: guess what it comes up with a little message for mom.
Speaker 2: Or you know whoever.
Speaker 1: You're writing that out for so kind of cool stuff
Speaker 1: right there, I mean so many things, just so many
Speaker 1: things using chat GBT right, I'm rich Damiro. That's gonna
Speaker 1: do it. For this episode of the show. Next week,
Speaker 1: how does a salad from a vending machine sound? The
Speaker 1: CEO of Farmers Fridge is going to join me to
Speaker 1: talk about his fresh food vending machines, which are in
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Speaker 1: Check it out to watch my TV segments. Thanks so
Speaker 1: much for listening. There are so many ways you can
Speaker 1: spend your time. I do appreciate you spending it right
Speaker 1: here with me. Thanks to everyone who makes this show possible.
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