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Speaker 1: Amazon discontinues its activity trackers, a new tablet to rival

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Speaker 1: Plus your tech questions answered. What's going on. I'm Rich

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Speaker 1: Demiro and this is Rich on Tech, the show where

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Speaker 1: I talk about the tech stuff I think you should

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Speaker 1: questions about technology. I'm the tech reporter at KTLA Channel

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Speaker 1: five in Los Angeles. Welcome to show number seventeen. That's right,

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Speaker 1: seventeen shows so far feels like I don't know what

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Speaker 2: Actually it feels about right. Seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Phone lines are open at triple eight Rich one oh one.

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Speaker 1: hello at richon tech dot TV. So show number seventeen

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Speaker 1: means that we are still getting to know each other.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: This is a new show. It's a new format. It's

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Speaker 1: got some familiar familiarity. Familiar, it's a little bit familiar,

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Speaker 1: but it's also new, and so I hope you are

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Speaker 1: enjoying it the way that we are going to get,

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Speaker 1: you know, more people to know about the show is

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Speaker 1: this show. So if you like what you're hearing, if

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Speaker 1: you like the show, please tell a friend. That's really

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Speaker 1: the best way to grow this show and to grow

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Speaker 1: this program. So thank you for all the support that

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Speaker 1: I've gotten so far. Believe me, it's been amazing. But

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Speaker 1: we can always have more. Of course, So what a

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much for taking my call.

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Speaker 5: Sure, what's up I have? I think my email's been hacked.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So two weeks ago I stopped getting email and

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Speaker 1: He is retired but now back at the Houston Chronicle

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Speaker 6: Hey, Rich, I have been doing this since about really

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Speaker 2: Or is it still sort of nascent?

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Speaker 6: You know, it's like Twitter was very early on. There

436
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Speaker 6: were people who jumped onto Twitter in the earliest days

437
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Speaker 6: who said, there's nothing here, how do I talk to people?

438
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Speaker 6: And the same thing is true with mathddon. You kind

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Speaker 6: of have to find your people, right. One of the

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Speaker 6: nice things for me is that, you know, I write

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Speaker 6: about technology and I've been a digital journalist for a

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Speaker 6: long time, and so there's a lot of people who

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Speaker 6: are pretty tech savvy. And when the initial departure from

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Speaker 6: Twitter to masddon started in late twenty twenty two, two

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Speaker 6: people put in their profiles that they had moved to

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Speaker 6: mastadon And there were several apps that appeared that let

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Speaker 6: you find people who you were following who had mentioned

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Speaker 6: mastedon on their feet that's cool, did you coure to

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Speaker 6: follow them? And so I've got probably about six hundred

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Speaker 6: people I follow on mastadon. It doesn't have things like

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Speaker 6: you know, I'm a local newspaper columnist and I really

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Speaker 6: kind of missed the local news that you could find

453
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Speaker 6: on Twitter. But for the most part, I have better conversations,

454
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Speaker 6: more civil, richer, and I think with smarter people sometimes

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Speaker 6: than I was on Twitter. I think for me, it's

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Speaker 6: more satisfying.

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Speaker 1: But just as you get used to this, now you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to sign up for Blue Sky and see

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Speaker 1: what that's all about.

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Speaker 6: I'm on the weight list.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're on the weight list, so my, so my,

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Speaker 1: So we'll see. We'll talk about that in a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks once we both get in and see. But

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Speaker 1: I like the fact that it's built on that decentralized

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Speaker 1: kind of platform. It's almost like more Web three instead

466
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Speaker 1: of Twitter. You know, we're seeing all these new things

467
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Speaker 1: come along that are much more decentralized and put the

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Speaker 1: user in more control. But enough about that, let's talk

469
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Speaker 1: about one plus. So you've been testing out the one

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Speaker 1: plus pad, as have I. My review will be on

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Speaker 1: KTLA channel five on Monday, so if you're in the

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Speaker 1: LA area you can watch that.

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Speaker 2: But you have reviewed it, you've.

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Speaker 1: Written your column, you said, it's a satisfying, sleek and simple,

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Speaker 1: simple Android tablet.

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Speaker 2: So let's get through the basics. What do you think

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Speaker 2: of this thing?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, one of the interesting things about one

479
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Speaker 6: plus is that this company has been around for a

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Speaker 6: while doing premium smartphones, but they don't charge the same.

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Speaker 3: Prices that the big guides do.

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Speaker 6: Their current smartphone is the one Plus eleven, and it's

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Speaker 6: a fantastic phone.

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Speaker 7: It's really fast.

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Speaker 6: It uses the same process process or family that Samsung's

486
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Speaker 6: current flagship phones used. It's just it's a joy to use.

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Speaker 6: And one plus wants to get into the tablet market,

488
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Speaker 6: and so they've taken what they've learned from doing these

489
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Speaker 6: smartphones at decent prices and produced their first tablet. It's

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Speaker 6: called the one plus Pad. It's an eleven point six

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Speaker 6: inch on the diagonal tablet. It is very fast, it

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Speaker 6: has minimal bloatwear, which I'm really happy about it.

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Speaker 1: That's what I really liked. Yeah, the software on it

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Speaker 1: is so great. I mean, if you've ever had a

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Speaker 1: one plus phone, the software is incredible. It's the same

496
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Speaker 1: on this tablet. The software is just it's so like

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Speaker 1: just refreshing for Android because usually when you get an Android,

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Speaker 1: it's got all this bloatwear. If you ever use Samsung,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of like stuff you don't need. Maybe

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Speaker 1: not so much in recent years, but you know previously

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Speaker 1: and with the one Plus, it's just so fresh and clean.

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Speaker 2: It's just so nice.

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Speaker 6: Yes, and you know what happens, particularly with Samsung and

504
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Speaker 6: other big name brands, is that they have their own

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Speaker 6: apps along with you know, always have Google's apps because

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Speaker 6: you know Google owns and manages Android and so. But

507
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Speaker 6: on this it basically is a handful of very simple,

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Speaker 6: uh cleanly written one plus apps, and then there is

509
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Speaker 6: a folder full of Google's apps. And so if you

510
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Speaker 6: know and you use Google products, you'll feel right at

511
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Speaker 6: home at this. The other thing is that the general

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Speaker 6: layout and even the feel of the hardware reminds me

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Speaker 6: very much of Apple's basic iPad. Yes, you know, it

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Speaker 6: looks a lot like they're trying to go for people

515
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Speaker 6: who maybe have an Android phone, but they have they

516
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Speaker 6: bought an iPad because the iPad is the gold standard

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Speaker 6: for tablets.

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Speaker 8: Still.

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Speaker 6: Yes, and here is here's the device that you can

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Speaker 6: that you can get. It isn't loaded down with junk,

521
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Speaker 6: that's very clean and very simple, very fast, and it

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Speaker 6: kind of looks like an iPad on its own screen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so it comes in one color, Halo green.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you better like, because that's what you're gonna get.

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Speaker 1: It's one hundred and twenty eight gigabytes again on one

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Speaker 1: size for that, no expandable memory. The screen size is

527
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Speaker 1: it's about almost twelve inches, and it's got this interesting

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Speaker 1: ratio of seven to five, which I found to be

529
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Speaker 1: just fine. It's got a large battery and the charging

530
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Speaker 1: is incredibly fast, so that's really nice. It's got Dolby

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Speaker 1: Vision Dolby at most. The only thing that I found

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Speaker 1: with the display, which I thought was really really nice,

533
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Speaker 1: is that I found it to be a little bit

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Speaker 1: when I was scrolling on some text, a little bit jellyish.

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Speaker 2: But it's fine. I mean, it's not like a deal

536
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Speaker 2: breaker for this thing. Now.

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Speaker 1: The pricing on this pad four to seventy nine for

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Speaker 1: the device, which I thought was a little bit high.

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Speaker 1: I wish they would have come in a little bit lower.

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Speaker 1: Magnetic keyboard one forty nine, stylus ninety nine. So I

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Speaker 1: think that this is a great tablet and it's a

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Speaker 1: good kind of Android alternative to the iPad.

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Speaker 2: But Dwight, do you think.

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Speaker 1: That folks should wait for like to see what the

545
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Speaker 1: pixel does or who do you think.

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Speaker 2: This is for?

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Speaker 6: I think this is for at the outset, people who

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Speaker 6: already have one plus phone and who maybe as I said,

549
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Speaker 6: maybe already own an iPad, but they'd like to go

550
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Speaker 6: all in on Android. It has some One of the

551
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Speaker 6: things that it's doing is they're trying to build up

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Speaker 6: a similar kind of ecosystem with one Plus hardware. So,

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Speaker 6: for example, if you have the one Plus buds Pro two,

554
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 6: which is their latest earbuds, yes, and they pair up

555
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Speaker 6: almost as smoothly as the Airpod's pro does on an

556
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Speaker 6: iPad or an iPhone. You know, you just open it,

557
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Speaker 6: you hold it nearby, and you're connected. It also does

558
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Speaker 6: a similar thing for using your phone's five G connection,

559
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Speaker 6: so you can bring your one plus phone close to it,

560
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Speaker 6: and if you don't have any kind of Internet connection

561
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Speaker 6: currently on the pad, it says, do you want to

562
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Speaker 6: share your phone's Internet connection? And then you just can.

563
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Speaker 6: It's very you know, they're working towards an Apple type

564
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Speaker 6: of ecosystem, and I would say, after an iteration or two,

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Speaker 6: it will be it'll it'll be even better. The one

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Speaker 6: thing about the price is that one plus will aggressively

567
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Speaker 6: discount shortly after its launch, So if you're thinking about

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Speaker 6: getting one of these, you might want to keep an

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Speaker 6: eye on sales and so forth. It's for seventy nine

570
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 6: to start, but I wouldn't be surprised if you don't

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Speaker 6: see it selling soon for in the four fifty four

572
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Speaker 6: forty five range.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I would agree with that. Let's leave it there.

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Speaker 1: One plus pad. It's available May eighth pre order right now,

575
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Speaker 1: and I believe they have a fifty dollars discount right

576
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Speaker 1: now if you trade in something else. But the reality is,

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Speaker 1: I agree with Dwight, wait for a sale on this,

578
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: usually around Mother's Day or something. I bet you they'll

579
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Speaker 1: have one. Maybe not right off the bat, but you know,

580
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: you wait a month or two, you'll be fine. All right, Dwight,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining me today. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Sure, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll follow you on mastadon or any other

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Speaker 1: social network that may come along, and uh look for

585
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: your stuff in the Houston Chronicle. All right, coming up

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Speaker 7: Jack, you're on with rich Hey, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for calling question here.

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Speaker 7: I don't remember when I bought my net book. I

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Speaker 7: don't even know if they still know.

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Speaker 2: Wow, those were hot for a while.

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Speaker 7: Well, I loved it. The thing was great. It came

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Speaker 7: with Windows seven, and my sister gave she worked at

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Speaker 7: Microsoft at the time, and she gave me Windows eight.

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Speaker 7: I didn't really like Windows eight and then Windows ten

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Speaker 7: came along, so I installed it, and at the time

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Speaker 7: I just wasn't into computers, so I let it sit

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Speaker 7: for unfortunately over thirty days. Well it turns out Microsoft

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Speaker 7: didn't bother to tell me that after thirty days you

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Speaker 7: cannot uninstall Windows ten.

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Speaker 2: Oh it kind of locks itself in there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, this little guy can't really handle the Windows ten.

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Speaker 2: And I was going to say, I'm surprised it even

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, it won't do updates anymore. It now it

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Speaker 7: looks at your computer and says, oh, this thing can't

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Speaker 7: handle Windows you know, the updates. Yeah, well, I wish

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Speaker 7: they'd done that when I was installing Windows ten. But anyway, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: what I'm looking at is, I don't you know, I

625
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,239
Speaker 7: spent like maybe less than three hundred dollars on this

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Speaker 7: thing at Costco years ago. It's an acer file one.

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Speaker 7: I tried looking it up while I was on hold,

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Speaker 7: but apparently you can't do that when you're on hold

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Speaker 7: with speakerphone and all that, or with all the music

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Speaker 7: and all that stuff. So anyway, I tried looking up

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Speaker 7: to figure out how old it is. I'm guessing it

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Speaker 7: was about twenty ten. Somewhere in there, maybe twenty oh nine,

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Speaker 7: I don't know, But anyway, I would like to replace

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Speaker 7: this thing and windows. You know, thank god that don't

635
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Speaker 7: make cars like they do computers, otherwise everybody replacing their

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Speaker 7: car three years.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it depends on the computers.

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Speaker 1: But listen, I mean, so what you're trying to spend

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Speaker 1: under five hundred how much you're trying to spend on

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Speaker 1: a new computer?

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Speaker 7: You know, Quite honestly, I am so fed up with computers.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to spend any money, but nowadays you

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Speaker 7: have to have it your doctor appointments, your banking, your well,

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Speaker 7: I don't do banking on a computer, but everybody everything

645
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Speaker 7: is digital and you kind of have to have it.

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Speaker 7: So I guess I have to spend a bunch of

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Speaker 7: money just so I can still live in this modern world. Well,

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Speaker 7: wondering what you would suggest might be a inexpensive I

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Speaker 7: have never dealt with what do they call it?

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Speaker 3: Apple?

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Speaker 7: I've never dealt with that, so I don't really want

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Speaker 7: to try to learn a new system. You know, I'm

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Speaker 7: almost seven years old, so I'm getting kind of tired

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Speaker 7: of this stuff. But what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, first off, I mean, I think you could

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Speaker 1: do a lot on your phone if you have a smartphone.

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Speaker 7: Or no, well it's semi smart, it's kind of a cheap.

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Speaker 7: What is it, moto.

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Speaker 2: E okay, oh, moto E got it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And this is my first so called smartphone. It's

661
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Speaker 7: only got thirty two gigs, so even it's almost maxed out.

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Speaker 7: It seventy five percent storage, you know, just for apps,

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Speaker 7: so I can't install anything else as far as apps go,

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Speaker 7: So I can get by on it. But I would

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Speaker 7: really like to be able to type. I used to

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Speaker 7: like typing on word, type out a letter, copy and

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Speaker 7: paste it into an email and send it.

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Speaker 1: Well, nowadays you can just use chat ept to compose

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Speaker 1: those letters. You don't even have to type. That's the

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Speaker 1: good news, Jack. You could just Half the stuff that

671
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Speaker 1: you used to do manually is now all automatic. So

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Speaker 1: you're good there, I did it.

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Speaker 7: I'm absolutely against AI and I do not want to

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Speaker 7: have anything to do with chat GPS.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so no, no, no writing your letters with chat GBT.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would.

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Speaker 7: Recommend, you know, just on word would be fine. I

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Speaker 7: can still copy and paste.

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Speaker 3: I can do that.

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Speaker 7: I'm a good type.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, I would recommend. I mean, if you want

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Speaker 1: to stick with Windows, I would just find a Windows

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Speaker 1: laptop that you think is you know, decent. I would

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Speaker 1: go maybe like something like the Wirecutter. Have you heard

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Speaker 1: of wirecutter dot com?

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Speaker 7: Yes, I have the newsletter. Yeah I would. I would

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Speaker 7: mainly about UH streaming services, and I haven't heard I

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Speaker 7: haven't read anything on there yet.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So if you look up wirecutter, they do have

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Speaker 1: some of the best laptops under five hundred dollars, so

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Speaker 1: i'd recommend looking there. A lot of those are going

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Speaker 1: to be Chromebooks. And that sounds like you said you

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Speaker 1: didn't want to learn something new, so maybe you don't

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Speaker 1: want to go with a chromebook. So the best Windows

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Speaker 1: computer they pick under five hundred is actually, if you

696
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Speaker 1: can believe it, the Acer Aspire five. So you have

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Speaker 1: the acer Aspire one. It sounds like they've updated things

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Speaker 1: just a little bit. It's a little bit more expensive.

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Speaker 1: It looks like it's about four hundred and something dollars,

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Speaker 1: so it's under five hundred. I don't really see Windows

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Speaker 1: computers in that three hundred dollars range anymore. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's really about four hundred I think is the Magic

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Speaker 1: four to five.

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Speaker 7: I understand.

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Speaker 1: So I think that this computer, if you get it

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Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's going to run the latest Windows.

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Speaker 1: For under five hundred bucks, I would check out the

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Speaker 1: ACER Aspire five. I think that's going to be something

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Speaker 1: that you can get. Otherwise, you know, there's another one.

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Speaker 1: They recommend, an Asus Vivo Book. That's another one that's

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Speaker 1: about four hundred bucks. But I think the Acer and

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Speaker 1: Asus are going to be probably the two brands that

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Speaker 1: you want to look at for these inexpensive computers. I

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Speaker 1: think those are going to be your best option. If

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Speaker 1: you want to go with a chromebook again, I would

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Speaker 1: also recommend Acer. They have some great chromebooks. The nice

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Speaker 1: thing about the Chromebook is that the software is going

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Speaker 1: to last a long time. It's going to be fine. Now,

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Speaker 1: Jackie said he didn't really want to tinker on this stuff,

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Speaker 1: but if you wanted to, if you wanted to just

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Speaker 1: see if you can do something, you might check out

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Speaker 1: what's called Chrome os Flex. And this is a an

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Speaker 1: operating system that is free. It comes from Google, and

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Speaker 1: it will kind of turn your old Acer into a Chromebook.

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Speaker 1: And this is something that you know, if you mess

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Speaker 1: up and it doesn't work, you know you're going to

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Speaker 1: get a new laptop.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, but maybe just try it.

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Speaker 1: If this computer still has enough processing power to actually,

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Speaker 1: you know, handle what you need to do, it may

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Speaker 1: be another option. The other thing I'd recommend is maybe

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Speaker 1: just look at an iPad. I know you said you

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Speaker 1: didn't want to learn something new, but you've got a

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Speaker 1: smartphone that is halfway smart. An iPad would probably be

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Speaker 1: another way to go. That's kind of a nice thing

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Speaker 1: to do, so I would take a look at those

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Speaker 1: things and see if they work for you. You can

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Speaker 1: get a keyboard for the iPad. And with the iPad,

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Speaker 1: the advantage there is that you've got the access to

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Speaker 1: all of the modern apps and so you'll still have

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Speaker 1: Safari on there so you can surf the web, but

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Speaker 1: you'll also have all of the apps that you need,

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Speaker 1: including email apps and everything like that. So I think

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Speaker 1: that those options, hopefully under five hundred dollars, will be

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Speaker 1: a pretty good deal and it will last at least

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Speaker 1: another hopefully five years or so. All Right, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for the call, Jack, appreciate it. More of your

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Speaker 1: calls coming up at eight eight eight rich.

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Speaker 2: One oh one.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. This is the show

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Speaker 1: where I talk about the tech stuff I think you

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Speaker 1: should know about. It's also the place where I answer

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Speaker 1: your questions about technology. My name is rich Jamiro. You

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Speaker 1: zero one. Email hello at richontech dot TV. Andrea writes

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Speaker 1: in I'm a long time Samsung smartphone user and I

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Speaker 1: have an older Samsung tablet. Well, the one plus pad

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Speaker 1: that we just talked about be a good tablet replacement

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Speaker 1: for mine.

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Speaker 2: Love your program kindly, Andrea. I think so.

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Speaker 1: I think that the one plus tablet is a really

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Speaker 1: strong contender. But here's the thing I'm going to caution you.

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Speaker 1: You gotta wait at least a couple of weeks. So

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Speaker 1: Google is having this event called Google Io, and that

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Speaker 1: happens on Wednesday, May tenth, so they are expected to

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Speaker 1: announce new hardware. They've already said that they're coming out

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Speaker 1: with the tablet this year called the Pixel Tablet, and

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Speaker 1: they announced it back in October. We haven't heard a

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Speaker 1: on May tenth they are finally going to tell us

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Speaker 1: more details about when this is arriving and how much

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Speaker 1: it's going to cost, and also the specs of this tablet.

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Speaker 1: So if you can hold off another two weeks, then

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Speaker 1: you can properly compare the new one plus tablet to

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Speaker 1: the Pixel tablet, decide which one is a better price,

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Speaker 1: which one has the better features for you. But I think,

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Speaker 1: no matter what, these are two strong Android tablets for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three and moving forward. We have not had

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Speaker 1: a really good Android tablet that's not Samsung in a

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Speaker 1: very long time. With this clean software that US techies like,

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Speaker 1: not a lot of bloatwear, not a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: to hold you back, not a lot of apps you

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Speaker 1: don't need. That's what we like about this stuff. Good question, Andrea,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for emailing. All right, Scott Kay's gonna join me

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Speaker 1: this hour. He is the founder of going dot com.

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Speaker 1: This is a website that sends you email alone about

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Speaker 1: travel deals. So if you want to travel somewhere for cheap,

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Speaker 1: this is the website that will help you do that,

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Speaker 1: tell you a great story about how he got started

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Speaker 1: in all this stuff. So Scott will join me this hour.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to John in Moore Park. John, you're on

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Speaker 1: with Rich.

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Speaker 9: Okay, I'm Rich.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 9: I have a friend of mine who has a she

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Speaker 9: has a a iPhone and an iPad, and I need

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Speaker 9: your advice on a password manager.

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Speaker 2: Oh is that all they use?

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Speaker 8: It's all they are, Okay.

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Speaker 1: So in that case I rarely recommend this. But in

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Speaker 1: that case, if you're only using Apple stuff, I think

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Speaker 1: that the built in Apple keychain. Gosh, what do they

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Speaker 1: call it? I gotta I gotta see what they call it.

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Speaker 1: So it's the Apple let's see Apple password manager. It's

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Speaker 1: built in to Safari, okay, and it's called oh here

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Speaker 1: it is iCloud keychain, that's what they call it. And

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Speaker 1: so this is their version of a password manager. And

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Speaker 1: it basically will generate secure passwords. If you use an

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Speaker 1: iPhone or if you use Safari, you've probably seen this

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Speaker 1: pop up and it says would you like us to

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Speaker 1: generate and save a secure password for you? And you

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Speaker 1: can say yes, and it will sync across all of

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Speaker 1: your devices. So if you're signed into iCloud on an iPad,

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Speaker 1: on a maccomputer or an iPhone.

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Speaker 2: It'll all work.

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Speaker 1: Now, I give you this with the caveat that it's

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Speaker 1: only good if you use Apple stuff, and not just

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Speaker 1: Apple stuff, but Apple Browser as well. So if you're

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Speaker 1: only using Safari, it'll work, And if you're only using

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Speaker 1: the iPhone, it'll work, and if you're only using the.

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Speaker 2: iPad it'll work.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise, I would recommend a third party password manager. But John,

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Speaker 1: you're telling me your friend only uses the iPhone and

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Speaker 1: the iPad in the event.

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Speaker 8: Sho go get a PC. Would there be a password

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Speaker 8: manager that would work on all three?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So once you get into the cross platform stuff,

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Speaker 1: I would recommend getting a cross platform password manager. The

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Speaker 1: ones I like are Bitwarden. That one's a nice free

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Speaker 1: one that'll be a great way to wait in. Also,

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Speaker 1: this is kind of quirky too. Chrome has their own

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Speaker 1: password manager as well, But the quirk about that is

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Speaker 1: that it actually works on iOS and Android and the

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Speaker 1: Chrome web browser, and so you can get that completely

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Speaker 1: for free, you know, if you want a free option.

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Speaker 1: So the free options again are the iCloud key chain.

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Speaker 1: Only if you're using Apple stuff and Safari, Chrome will

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Speaker 1: work if you're using the Chrome web browser, but also

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Speaker 1: an iPhone that'll work nicely. And then Bitwarden will work

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Speaker 1: for free across all of these platforms for free. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you want to get into something that's paid, I

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Speaker 1: like dash Lane, and a lot of folks like like

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Speaker 1: one password that's the number one and then the word password.

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Speaker 1: But those are the password managers that I like. I

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Speaker 1: think John, any of those will work. It just sort

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Speaker 1: of depends what your needs are. But I always like

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Speaker 1: stuff that works across various platforms because I have the

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Speaker 1: option later to change my mind.

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Speaker 8: I have one other question, is very show like your

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Speaker 8: show on Sundays? I mean, I listen to KFI.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe there is at this point. I mean

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Speaker 2: I know that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my show is just Saturdays at this point, so

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Speaker 1: we're doing just Saturdays.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I work on KTLA during the week, so obviously I

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Speaker 1: am there and then I'm here on Saturday. The Sunday

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Speaker 1: option is just a little bit too much. So there

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Speaker 1: are plenty of tech shows out there, obviously, lots of podcasts,

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Speaker 1: but not on KFI as far as I know. Of course,

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Speaker 1: this show goes nationwide on different stations. So depending on

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Speaker 1: where you're listening, of course, it may not be KFI,

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Speaker 1: maybe a different station where you are. But John, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that you're here trying to get me in more

869
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: places and more times.

870
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 2: I do like that.

871
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: So thanks so much for calling today, and get your

872
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: friends set up with the password manager. I love the

873
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: fact that you're looking out for them, because everyone should

874
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: be using a password manager.

875
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk Amazon.

876
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: I've been telling you that they have discontinued one of

877
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: their smart devices. It is the Amazon Halo. This is

878
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: a smart tracker that I'm not sure it ever really

879
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: took off. I never did a formal review on it,

880
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: although I've talked about it in my segments just to

881
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: help people be aware of it, but I've never actively

882
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: recommended this. They were very inexpensive. They came out a

883
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. But Amazon says they are going

884
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: to discontinue the Amazon Halo effective July thirty first, twenty

885
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: twenty three. So in the last twelve months, if you

886
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: bought the Halo View, the Halo Band, the Halo Rise,

887
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: or any Halo accessory bands, Amazon is going to automatically

888
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: ref fund you if you prepaid your Halo subscription, you

889
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: will be automatically refunded. Now, if you have a subscription

890
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: that is monthly, you're not going to get charged anymore.

891
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 2: Now here's the date.

892
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: Beginning August twenty first, twenty twenty three, these Halo devices

893
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: and the Halo app will no longer function. That means

894
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: if you have your health data inside this app and

895
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: you want to keep it, you might want to download it,

896
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: so you can download that through the Halo app. You

897
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: can also download any images that you took. You have

898
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: until August first, basically, so effective July thirty first, not

899
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: going to work anymore. August first, it's totally gone. So

900
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: you probably want to plan now. If you use this thing,

901
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 1: you've got April, May, June, July, you got a couple

902
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: of months to get your affairs in order. With this

903
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: Amazon Halo you can also recycle the device if you

904
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: don't want to keep it. Amazon will give you a

905
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: recycling label for free. They have a link. I'll put

906
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: it up on my website tech dot tv in the

907
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: show notes. This is show number seventeen, so if you're

908
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: looking for it, you can find it in the show notes.

909
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: So why did they discontinue it?

910
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: Well, let's see, the Apple Watch is very popular, the

911
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: fitbits are very popular, the Galaxy watches are sort of popular.

912
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: But this just didn't really fit into what Amazon is

913
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: doing at this point. Now, they recently came out that

914
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: Halo Rise, which was a bedside sort of alarm clock,

915
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: sort of fitness tracker that tracked your sleep. So I

916
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: don't think Amazon was successful in this area. I think

917
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: that they had a lot of controversy with these devices

918
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: because it's Amazon. People don't necessarily trust Amazon with their data,

919
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: and that's what happened here. I think people just said, eh,

920
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 1: these things, I don't know Amazon is, you know, It's.

921
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: Just not the company I want tracking all of my stuff.

922
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: In fact, the big controversy with the Halo devices is

923
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: when they first came out, they could actually see what

924
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: your mood was based on your voice. So this little

925
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: device had a microphone on it that would listen to

926
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 1: you throughout the day and tell you that you sounded

927
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: a certain way. And I forget what the qualifications were like,

928
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: what the different like, you know, if you sounded angry

929
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: or if you sounded concerned or anxious.

930
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: Whatever they were.

931
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: People were very upset about this, and I remember reporting

932
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: about it, and I thought it was kind of cool

933
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: because if you're treating people a certain way throughout the

934
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: day and it's like, did you know that you were

935
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 1: sounding sterned throughout your day? Not very good. So that's

936
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 1: what happened with the Amazon stuff. Amazon Halo going away

937
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: on July thirty first. So if you have it, download

938
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: your data, get that data into you know, into your files,

939
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: and get your photos out of it.

940
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 2: But kind of sad.

941
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: But if you bought one of these things in the

942
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: last twelve months, not that big of a deal because

943
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 1: they're going to refund your money. So Amazon and Google,

944
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't understand what their deal is, but they love

945
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: to discontinue stuff. I mean Amazon has closed entire stores,

946
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: like they had all these bookstores and these four star

947
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: stores or five star stores or if they called them

948
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: and just gone overnight. They just close them up and

949
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: that's it. Shut the doors. Google same way, they just

950
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: really discontinue a lot of stuff. They come out with

951
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, then they discontinue a.

952
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 2: Lot of stuff.

953
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: So there you have it. Get a fitbit. I guess

954
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: that's the new replacement for the Amazon Halo, all right,

955
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: coming up, we're going to talk about travel deals and

956
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: I've got my review of Ring's new dash cam, so

957
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: I installed this dash cam. By the way, Ring is

958
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 1: an Amazon company, but it's one of the few products

959
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: I actually recommend from Amazon because they seem like they've

960
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: got some good sort of momentum behind these Ring products,

961
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: so I don't think they're going to get rid of

962
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: those anytime soon. So we're going to talk about the

963
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: Ring dash cam. That is a device that is a

964
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: little bit more expensive than your standard dash cam, but

965
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: it's pretty good and I like it a lot, and

966
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: I'll tell you all about that. That's a two hundred

967
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars dashcam.

968
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: Uh.

969
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: And we also have our travel expert coming up, Scott

970
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: Kay's is going to talk about how to find travel deals.

971
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: And did you know you can listen to this show

972
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: as a podcast, So if you like it here on

973
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: the radio, you want to listen to something again, you

974
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: can subscribe. Just go to rich on tech dot tv.

975
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: There is a podcast icon there. Show notes like I

976
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 1: mentioned are there, so I do put links to everything

977
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: I mentioned here on the show. All Right, we got

978
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: some phone lines open at Triple A Rich one on

979
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: one that's eight eight eight seven four to two four

980
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: one zero one. My name is Rich Dumiro. You are

981
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome back to Rich on Tech.

982
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology. Welcome

983
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: back to the show. Phone lines are open at triple

984
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: A Rich one on one. That's eight eight eight two

985
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: four to one zero one. Gary is in Riverside. Gary,

986
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Speaker 1: You're on with Rich.

987
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: Gary?

988
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: Are you there? Gary? One two three? Don't hear you?

989
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we'll try to find if we can get

990
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: Gary back on. Okay, let's go to a question via email.

991
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: Let's see Hello. That's at Hello at Richontech dot TV.

992
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: So good afternoon, Rich. I have the one plus eight

993
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: pro my twenty twenty two Prius XL E didn't come

994
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: with Android Auto? Is there a way to install or

995
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: use Android Auto on my car? Many many thanks, Wallace

996
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: in rolland Heights, California. So it's interesting. I know that

997
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: some models of the Prius I thought they came with

998
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: Android Auto, but I guess the XL does not, So

999
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: that's not ideal. But what I would do is just

1000
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: mount your phone in your car and use it that way.

1001
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: And there's a company that I really like that that

1002
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: makes really good mounts for your car. Oh here it

1003
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: is pro clip pro Clip USA. So these are mounts

1004
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: that are really kind of custom made for your specific

1005
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: car model, and so it'll really hold your phone nicer

1006
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: than say, you know, a random vent mount or something

1007
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: that you get. So if you go onto PROCLIPUSA dot

1008
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: com and then you can build your car mount and

1009
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: so you can select your model. You've got a Toyota Prius.

1010
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: Let's go through and build this. So Toyota Prius, and

1011
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: what I love about these is that they're they almost

1012
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: look like it's like a custom kind of thing. So

1013
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: let's go to the Preus twenty twenty two. And so

1014
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: what you do as you start with a base and

1015
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: so this is a Toyota Prius angled dash mount. So

1016
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 1: you start with the base and then you get your holder.

1017
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: So once you add that to your car, then you

1018
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: can get a phone and device holder. And so you

1019
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: get a specific device holder for your phone. So we'll

1020
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: go for a phone. We'll go to one plus, which

1021
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: of course they have and you have the eight as

1022
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: you say eight or eight pro. Let's see you got

1023
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: eight pro. So we go to eight pro and you

1024
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: press next, and so basically they will give you do

1025
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: you want integrated charging, so you can do charging or

1026
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: non integrated charging, and it's like a little dock for

1027
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: your car. So I'm gonna go with integrated charging. See

1028
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 1: device holders, and there you go. It's got the charging

1029
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: holder for small to medium cases for this device, and

1030
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: that's one hundred dollars. And so you're looking at one

1031
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five dollars, which I know that's a lot,

1032
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: but it will give you a much cleaner professional installation

1033
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: for that Prius. And so once you have that, then

1034
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: you can just ask Google Assistant to go into driving

1035
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: mode or on Google Maps, just open it up and

1036
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: enter driving mode that way. And so they used to

1037
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: have with Assistant where you can go into like sort

1038
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: of a driving mode on Google Assistant. I can't seem

1039
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: to find that anymore, but you might want to do

1040
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: a little bit of research about Google Assistant driving mode

1041
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: because they used to have Android Auto where you can

1042
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: actually just activate it on your phone, and it looked

1043
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 1: pretty well, looked just like the Android Auto you'd get

1044
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: built into your car, and then they got rid of

1045
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: that and they went to like this web based version,

1046
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: so no matter what. Android is pretty good about activating

1047
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: Android Auto in your car and making your phone work

1048
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: very seamlessly for that purpose of driving. And so I

1049
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: just asked Google, you know, activate driving mode, and it

1050
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: looked pretty good, Like the buttons get bigger, gives your

1051
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: options for music and things like that.

1052
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: So that's what I would do. So good question.

1053
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry that the Android Auto is not built in,

1054
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: because I do think that every car should have Android

1055
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: Auto and car Play built in to give you that nice,

1056
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: clean install All right, let me give you my review

1057
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: of the Ring dash cam. This is a simple way

1058
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: to add, as I've found out, security and peace of

1059
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: mind to your car. It's two hundred and fifty dollars

1060
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: plus an optional subscription, but as I learned, you pretty

1061
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: much need the six dollars monthly subscription to make this

1062
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: thing worth it. You've got HD cameras front and back.

1063
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 1: They give you a nice wide angle point of view.

1064
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: The camera clarity is just fine. It's nothing special. I

1065
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: think that the next version will probably be a lot

1066
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: better installation, much easier than I expected. But you have

1067
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: to know there's no way to power this except running

1068
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: a cable to what's called the OBD two port and

1069
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: so not every car is going to be compatible with this.

1070
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 1: It does run down the battery on your car sometimes,

1071
00:54:58,320 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: so you do have to be aware of that. Newer

1072
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: ca you drive more are gonna work better with this setup.

1073
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: The camera records when you drive, so it's doing a

1074
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: continuous loop. It'll record when it senses movement to your car,

1075
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: not motion, but movements.

1076
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 2: Your car has to move for it to trigger recording.

1077
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: You can also trigger a manual recording when your car

1078
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: stop by saying alex A record and you know what

1079
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: I mean by alex A. Just like the video door bell,

1080
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: you can take a look inside or outside your car

1081
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: at any time, which is really cool. There's a status

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Speaker 1: light that appears on the camera in the car to

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Speaker 1: let people inside the car no you're looking in on them.

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Speaker 1: There's also a flip up privacy shutter. You flip that

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Speaker 1: up and all video and audio stops. So again, unless

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Speaker 1: you're gonna pay for the subscription, you've got to be

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Speaker 2: But I love it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's really, really cool if you don't mind

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Speaker 1: spending the money and having that subscription. All right, coming up,

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Speaker 1: we're talking travel deals right here, rich on Tech. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking technology

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Speaker 1: with you. So we were talking about Android Auto and

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00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out where this is hidden. Now,

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00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: so you got to go in Google Maps. It's kind

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00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: of weird, but you have to turn this on and

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Speaker 1: then you say h, Google Activate Driving Mode and or

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Speaker 1: turn on driving Mode, and it'll bring you into Google Maps.

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Speaker 1: And once you're in Google Maps and you navigate somewhere,

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00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: you'll see at the bottom of your screen it'll have

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00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: like a little app launcher and you can access your

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00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: commonly used apps, like all the audio apps and then calls,

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00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: messages and media. So again, the way to do it

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Speaker 1: is to just say h Google Activate Driving Mode and

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Speaker 1: that will do it. So you get that set up

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00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: in your car and it's pretty much like having Android Auto,

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Speaker 1: just to a little less integrated version of it. All right,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk travel deals. Scott Key's is founder

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Speaker 1: and CEO of going dot Com, one of a handful

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Speaker 1: of websites that can send you deals for airfares, like

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Speaker 1: really incredible deals as they find them.

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Speaker 2: Scott, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Great to be with you, Rich, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: So you are sort of a pro traveler at this point,

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00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: tell me about how you got started on this whole

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00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: world of travel. You found like a really good travel

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00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: deal at one point.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, it was very serendipitously. You know, there's

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00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 3: not a degree in college for cheap flight studies. But

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00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 3: I was one of those folks who grew up who

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Speaker 3: had no idea how to find cheap flights. I felt

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Speaker 3: like everybody else around me was finding them and I

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Speaker 3: just couldn't do it. So as I just was very

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Speaker 3: intrigued by this question, actually ended up spending a lot

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Speaker 3: of time on years researching how to find flights. And

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Speaker 3: then I'll culment it had been in twenty thirteen when

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Speaker 3: I found the best deal I'd ever personally gotten in

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Speaker 3: my life is NonStop from New York City to Milan

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00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 3: for one hundred and thirty dollars round trip round trip

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Speaker 3: Poulter on United NonStop, included check bags, the whole works.

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Speaker 3: I think they meant to sell that for thirteen hundred

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Speaker 3: dollars and forgot a zero at the end. But because

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00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 3: I purchased it in the time when it was lifted

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Speaker 3: at one hundred and thirty dollars, that's the price I paid,

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Speaker 3: and that's what I ended up being able to take

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Speaker 3: an Italian vacation for. And so when I got back,

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Speaker 3: you know, it was a wonderful time up in Italy,

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Speaker 3: like Como skiing in the Alps. When I got back

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Speaker 3: from this trip, all my friends and coworkers kept coming

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00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 3: up to me, Hey, Scott, I heard about that great

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00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 3: deal you got. Listen, next time you find a deal

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00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 3: like that, can you let me know so I can

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00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 3: get in on it too, And so that is how

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00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 3: going dot com eventually, that's its origin. That's how it

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00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 3: began a way to let my friends know anytime I

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00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 3: found a cheap flight. And it's obviously grown quite a

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Speaker 3: bit since those humble origins eight nine years ago.

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Speaker 2: So it used to be called Scott's Cheap Flights.

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00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: Now it's going The website is going dot com, and

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00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: you sign up with your email and there's a free

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Speaker 1: level of service which will give you some deals. Of course,

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00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: you can pay to get more deals and more customized deals.

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Speaker 1: But the reality is, how is this working? Scott you're

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Speaker 1: scanning airfares twenty four to seven and looking for.

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Speaker 3: What essentially yeah, so airfair. The important thing to know

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Speaker 3: about airfare is that it's one of the most volatile

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Speaker 3: things that we purchase in our daily lives. It's not

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Speaker 3: like a gallon of milk, where the price you paid

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Speaker 3: for it yesterday is about the price today, and it's

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Speaker 3: going to be about the price tomorrow. Airfair is constantly

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Speaker 3: pinging around. I mean, I remember watching a flight once

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Speaker 3: from Atlanta to Amsterdam on Monday. When I searched for it,

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00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 3: it was eight hundred dollars on trip. Did the same

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Speaker 3: search on Tuesday. The next day three hundred dollars round trip.

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Speaker 3: Did that search again the next day on Wednesday, thirteen

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Speaker 3: hundred dollars round trip. We're talking about the exact same flight.

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Speaker 3: And so that's why I think airfare, because it's one

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Speaker 3: of those things that's incredibly volatile and incredibly taxing. Trying

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Speaker 3: to figure out, you know, this is a good price,

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Speaker 3: will it drop, will it go up? But also knowing

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01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 3: that if you want to travel more than a state

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01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 3: or two away, you're almost certainly going to need a flight.

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Speaker 3: I think that's why it creates a unique headache for people,

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Speaker 3: and so that's where going comes in, being able to

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Speaker 3: make sure that you're not going to miss out on

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Speaker 3: a great deal because you didn't happen to be searching

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Speaker 3: for those you know, that specific route on those specific

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Speaker 3: dates at the right time. That Milan deal I got

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01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 3: was only available for a few hours, and so if

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Speaker 3: you didn't know about it during that period when it

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01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 3: was available, you would have missed out on. And that's

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Speaker 3: what we want to make sure that our members don't

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Speaker 3: miss out on those great days.

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Speaker 1: And there's generally two types of flight deals. It's unadvertised.

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Speaker 1: They're just having a deal on the you know, the

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01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: airfare goes down, and you know, if you're not searching

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Speaker 1: for that specific time or date, you would never know.

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Speaker 1: And then the second way is these mistake deals. So

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Speaker 1: can you talk about the types of deals that you

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Speaker 1: have on your site and if I book a mistake fair,

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Speaker 1: am I gonna be able to take that fair?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? So let's start with the unadvertised sales. These are

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Speaker 3: really our bread and potter. You know, ninety five percent

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Speaker 3: of the deals that we find and send members are

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Speaker 3: when the price drops significantly from the normal price. But

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Speaker 3: the airlines meant to do that. You know, just in

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Speaker 3: the past couple of weeks, we had flights just last

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Speaker 3: week over to Europe to places like Bologna, Northern Italy, Vienna, Prague, Zurich,

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Speaker 3: Amsterdam for about three hundred and eighty six dollars round

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Speaker 3: trip on full service airlines, or flights over to a

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Speaker 3: Beza for three hundred and forty four bucks round trip.

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Speaker 3: Those were those were the prices of the airlines meant

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Speaker 3: to send. But every once in a while they do

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Speaker 3: make a mistake, like they did with this trip to Milan,

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Speaker 3: like they did earlier this year with flights to South

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Speaker 3: America to Peru or Ecuador, Colombia for one hundred and

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Speaker 3: thirty eight dollars round trip. And the funny thing is

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Speaker 3: when that happens, a it only lasts as long as

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Speaker 3: sintil the airline's able to fix it. But b most

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Speaker 3: of the time, I'm talking eighty five ninety percent of time,

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Speaker 3: the airlines actually honor that there they don't cancel the ticket.

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Speaker 3: And the reason why is that they've come to realize

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Speaker 3: that these social media backlash they're going to get if

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Speaker 3: they cancel a lot of people's tickets is not necessarily

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Speaker 3: worth the headache, worth the whatever financial cost they had

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Speaker 3: to pay from folks getting that great deal. But on

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Speaker 3: the flip side, they actually get some amount of social

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Speaker 3: media benefit went from those mistake fars every once in

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Speaker 3: a while, because the person who bought that one hundred

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Speaker 3: and thirty six dollars round trip flight to Peru or

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Speaker 3: to Columbia is now going you know, nobody buys that

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Speaker 3: ticket and then just quietly goes about their day. They're

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Speaker 3: telling everybody about the ticket. You know, they're saying the

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Speaker 3: airline where they got it, and that might increase the

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Speaker 3: airlines kind of brand, the likelihood that somebody might purchase

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Speaker 3: from them in the future. And so I think, I like,

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Speaker 3: I like to think about these mistakes theres a little

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Speaker 3: bit more holistically, and that's why they end up honoring

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Speaker 3: them most of the time. There are are times when

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Speaker 3: they cancel it and it's unfortunate. Usually, though, when that happens,

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Speaker 3: that's going to happen in the first few days after.

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Speaker 3: It's not as though it's going to happen right before

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Speaker 3: your trip and all of a sudden the airline pulls

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Speaker 3: the rugout.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what about all these things we hear about. There's

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Speaker 1: so many like, you know, you got to use a

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Speaker 1: VPN to book your flight, You got a book a

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Speaker 1: flight on a Tuesday, you gotta wake up early in

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Speaker 1: the morning. Do any of those things really work or

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Speaker 1: you know, my advice to people generally when they're booking

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01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: flights is if the price seems right to you and

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01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: you're ready to book, go ahead and book it. You know,

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01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: like it kind of like depends on the person, and

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Speaker 1: if you feel like it's fair. Yes, it can always

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01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: go down, it can always go up. But you know,

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Speaker 1: what's your advice for people booking flights.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So there are a lot of those sort of

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Speaker 3: huh retread myths about airfare that I think are a

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01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 3: product of the fact that airfare is so volatile and

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01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 3: seems like it makes no sense, and so we jump

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01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 3: to sort of stock conclusions almost as a modern you know,

1254
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 3: twenty per century rain dance. Oh I did this dance

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01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 3: and then it rained, Therefore my dance must have caused

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Speaker 3: it to rain. I think that's the way a lot

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01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 3: of people view, you know, searching for flights when when

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Speaker 3: it changed, they think, oh, they must be tracking my cookies.

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Speaker 3: Oh if I search an incognito would be different. We

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Speaker 3: search for, you know, millions of airfares every single day.

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Speaker 3: If anybody was going to notice fairs changing because of

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Speaker 3: our searches, it would be us. But we don't see that,

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Speaker 3: and instead, actually a brand that I did an experiment

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Speaker 3: on this one search for from Denver to to Iceland,

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Speaker 3: excuse me, Denver to London for and when the first

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Speaker 3: time I searched it was four hundred and forty one

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Speaker 3: dollars round trip. Second time I searched four hundred and

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Speaker 3: forty one dollars round trip. I searched that one hundred

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Speaker 3: times in a row. And we've got video of this

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Speaker 3: on YouTube. On the one hundred search, just like the

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Speaker 3: first search, still four hundred and forty one dollars round trip.

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Speaker 3: The interesting thing though about that, you know, searching on

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01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 3: Tuesday one pm or whatnot, if that's one that actually

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01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 3: used to be true twenty years ago when airlines first

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01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 3: started selling their tickets online, that they would load their

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01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 3: fares typically once a week at a predetermined time, like

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Speaker 3: say Tuesday at one pm. And so if you were

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Speaker 3: one of the first people to search for those plates

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01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 3: to buy a ticket right after they loaded, you would

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01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 3: have first crack at those cheapest fares. The problem is

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01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:53,959
Speaker 3: that's not how airfare has been handled for years now.

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01:05:54,200 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 3: Nowadays it changes algorithmically. It's constantly repricing rather than somebody

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01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 3: just changing the price once a week. And so the

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01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 3: good news is that, look, if you want to search

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01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 3: at Tuesday one PMO, if you want to search an

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01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 3: incognito mode or clear cookies, it's not going to hurt airfare.

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Speaker 3: It's just not going to do anything to actually make

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01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 3: flights cheaper. To do that, there are a lot of

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01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 3: different sort of best practices, like getting the timing of

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01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 3: your book, where booking a certain period in advance of travel,

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01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 3: usually about two to six months in advance, depending on

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Speaker 3: the trip is kind of the sweet spot where cheap

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Speaker 2: All right, Scott, we're going to leave it there.

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Speaker 1: Scott Key's founder and CEO of going dot com. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for joining me today.

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Speaker 3: Great to be on rich. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I've always wanted to do the thing where I ask

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Speaker 1: all the people on the plane around me, like how

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Speaker 1: much did you pay for your seat? How much did

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Speaker 1: you pay for your seat? How much did you pay

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Speaker 1: for your seat? I'm going to do that one day.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll put a link to the cheap airfare

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Speaker 1: alerts on my website. Just go to rich on Tech

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Speaker 1: dot TV. All right, coming up, news about WhatsApp. You

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Speaker 1: can now use it on multiple devices. I'll explain what

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Speaker 1: that's all about. Plus more of your calls at triple

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Speaker 1: to two, four to one zero one. Give me a

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Speaker 1: call if you have a question about technology. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich Tamuro here talking technology with you. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: Gary in Riverside. We tried this earlier.

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Speaker 2: Gary. Are you there?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Do you got me? Now?

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Speaker 2: I got you loud and clear. What's up?

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Speaker 9: Man?

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the heck I did. That's modern technology, right.

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Speaker 1: I told you it needs to work when it needs

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Speaker 1: to work, and it didn't work when you needed it

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Speaker 1: to work.

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Speaker 4: I must have hit the mute button by accident on

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Speaker 4: my iPhone. I got a brand new iPhone.

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Speaker 2: Oh nice, I.

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Speaker 4: Got a trip. I've got a simple question that you

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Speaker 4: I know you know a lot about, as you know.

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Speaker 4: In October of twenty twenty five, the Windows ten will

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Speaker 4: no longer get support.

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Speaker 2: Right, correct?

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Speaker 4: I have three old computers to ulip packer laptops. Those

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Speaker 4: are thirteen years old, and I have a Samsung laptop

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Speaker 4: that is eight years old. If there's no way that

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Speaker 4: you can put the new Windows eleven into them to

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Speaker 4: make them work, right, are can you?

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Speaker 2: Unlikely?

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Speaker 1: Maybe with the one that's maybe with the one that's

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Speaker 1: eight years old.

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Speaker 4: But I doubt it now I kind of Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: wanted to ask, you know, I listened to you A

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Speaker 4: lot of I didn't know about it. Even a lot

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Speaker 4: of my friends don't even know about that that it's

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Speaker 4: going to go.

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Speaker 1: Under Well, yeah, I mean, look, it's you know, Windows

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Speaker 1: ten came out in twenty fifteen, so it's you know,

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Speaker 1: it gave it ten years and it's a pretty good lifespan.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 1: They obviously gave a lot of people the update to

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Speaker 1: Windows eleven. If your computer can handle it, not every

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Speaker 1: computer can because they kind of increase the security requirements

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Speaker 1: for that, and so some of the systems that don't

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Speaker 1: have these chips, they just won't be able to upgrade

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Speaker 1: to Windows eleven.

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Speaker 2: So what to do?

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Speaker 1: So, Gary, are you a computer tinker at all?

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Speaker 3: Or no.

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Speaker 1: Kind of Okay, So I mean there's one option that

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Speaker 1: I would recommend if you want to get Now we're

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Speaker 1: talking you still have a year and a half.

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Speaker 2: You know, you don't have to do this today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm just you know, so in that time,

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Speaker 1: obviously you have you're talking three computers. Now, of course,

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Speaker 1: these computers are not going to cease to work. The

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Speaker 1: big thing that's going to happen is that there's no

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Speaker 1: more security updates for these and now Microsoft may change

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Speaker 1: their mind in the next year and a half and

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Speaker 1: they may say, you know what, we're going to do

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Speaker 1: another six months of security updates because we noticed that

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are still on these systems, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, we've seen that happen before, it could happen again.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is, you know, you can plan for

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Speaker 1: a new computer in that time, and you know you

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Speaker 1: have three of them, so that's a little bit trickier,

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Speaker 1: but you know that's that's coming up. But there's something

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Speaker 1: called Chrome os Flex and this is this basically would

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Speaker 1: turn your computer into a Chrome book. And so I

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Speaker 1: talk about this on the show a lot because if

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Speaker 1: you have an older computer that you still want to

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Speaker 1: get some use out of it's not a bad way

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Speaker 1: to do that, and right right, you can install it yourself.

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Speaker 1: It's free.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: When I first tested this couple, probably when it was

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Speaker 1: first announced a year ago or so, it uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a little buggy, little little wonky. I have not

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Speaker 1: tried it since, but I imagine that it's gotten a

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Speaker 1: lot better. And so that's you know, maybe try this

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Speaker 1: on one of your machines and see what you think

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 4: Right right right, Okay, that sounds that sounds good.

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Speaker 1: And I'd say try it on the oldest one. Let's

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Speaker 1: just you know, get all this stuff off of their

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Speaker 1: you know whatever. I believe you could run it right

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Speaker 1: from a flash drive, so you might even try that

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Speaker 1: and just just see what happens.

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Speaker 2: But right right, what do you what do you do

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Speaker 2: with these computers? They're still working thirteen years later?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're still working. I do my banking and everything.

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Speaker 4: They've been working fine. My main is a EULID packer

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Speaker 4: and uh, I've got it in front of me now it.

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Speaker 7: Still works fine.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I put it.

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Speaker 4: I put an SSD drive in it.

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Speaker 2: Wow, so makes it nice and fast.

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Speaker 4: It made it go five times faster.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you put an SSD drive in your computer. Gary,

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Speaker 1: I think you can install Chrome OS Flex.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I put them in, all three of them.

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Speaker 1: Try it and see what you know. I want you

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Speaker 1: to report back. That's your homework assignment.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, so chrome Chrome FX.

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Speaker 1: Chrome OS Flex, Chrome Chrome Operating System Flex f l

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Speaker 1: e X Okay, So look it up and you know

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Speaker 1: that's your homework. Do that, install it and report back

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Speaker 1: to me on what you think about it.

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Speaker 4: Call you back right on. Love your show, listen to

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Speaker 4: you all the time. I watch it on Channel five.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, Gary, Awesome, thanks a lot, Gary, appreciate it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: have a great day.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for getting me back on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no problem, thank you, all right, bye bye. All right,

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Speaker 2: there you have it.

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Speaker 1: So I talk about this stuff because you know, if

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Speaker 1: your computer's work. Look at Gary just called. He's got

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Speaker 1: a computer that's thirteen years old. People are always complaining

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Speaker 1: about you know, these computers don't last a long time.

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Speaker 1: I got to redo my computer all the time. My computers.

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Speaker 1: My dad. I gave him my old MacBook and I

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Speaker 1: looked it up last time I was there, and I

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Speaker 1: think it was going on ten years old, and it

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Speaker 1: was just fine. Now he was complaining about a couple

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Speaker 1: little things about it, this and that, but most of

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Speaker 1: it was pretty simple stuff that could be fixed. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it was user but you

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Speaker 1: know what it is. Sometimes it is you just feel

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Speaker 1: like it's you know, it's not working the way you

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Speaker 1: want it to. But I'm telling you, these computers can

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Speaker 1: last a really long time. And there you go thirteen years.

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Speaker 1: And look at Windows ten came out in July twenty ninth,

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, and it's going to be retired on October fourteenth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. So you've got a lot of time

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Speaker 1: for this too to be retired. You still have a

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Speaker 1: year and a half. That's ten solid years of using

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Speaker 1: an operating system. By the way, you didn't have to

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Speaker 1: pay for any updates for so I think that's a

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Speaker 1: win in my book. And by the way, you also

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Speaker 1: got Windows eleven for free. For a majority or maybe

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Speaker 1: not a majority, but a large amount of those computers

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Speaker 1: that were running Windows ten were able to upgrade to

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Speaker 1: Windows eleven. So there you have it, all right. I

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Speaker 1: told you about WhatsApp new feature. You can now run

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Speaker 1: WhatsApp across multiple phones. This was announced by Meta that

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Speaker 1: owns WhatsApp. This is a feature that was highly requested.

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Speaker 1: In fact, when I was looking for messaging apps, I

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Speaker 1: chose Telegram because I can install it on multiple phones

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Speaker 1: versus WhatsApp, which is linked to one phone.

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Speaker 2: You can have it on.

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Speaker 1: One phone plus additional devices like a web browser, a

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Speaker 1: tablet or a desktop. But you could not install it

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Speaker 1: on another phone simultaneously. Well, now you can. So now

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Speaker 1: you can link up up to four additional phones. You

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Speaker 1: can now link your phone as up to one of

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Speaker 1: four additional devices. So if you've got multiple phones, you

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Speaker 1: can have your same chats on all of those phones.

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Speaker 1: If you're a small business owner you've got different employees

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Speaker 1: that are all using your same WhatsApp account to answer messages,

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Speaker 1: you can do that. This will be available to everyone

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Speaker 1: in the coming weeks. It has started to roll out,

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Speaker 1: so update your WhatsApp if you don't have the ability

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Speaker 1: to install it on multiple devices.

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Speaker 2: It will be there soon.

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Speaker 1: It's coming out over the next few weeks, so when

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Speaker 1: they roll out things, it's not available to everyone at once,

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Speaker 1: just to make sure that there's no issues with the rollout.

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Speaker 1: But again, really really cool because WhatsApp is encrypted end

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Speaker 1: to end by default. That means nobody else can read

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Speaker 1: your messages, not even Meta if they wanted to. So

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Speaker 1: it's highly highly secure and quite honestly, if you don't

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Speaker 1: mind Meta and Facebook making the app that you use,

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Speaker 1: it's a really good option. So WhatsApp now available across

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Speaker 1: multiple phones. If you've been wanting that feature, it is

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Speaker 1: now available.

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Speaker 2: Coming up, we're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Talk about headphones in the next hour, but that wraps

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Speaker 1: up this hour of the show. Give me a call

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Speaker 1: triple eight rich one oh one. You're listening to rich

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Speaker 1: on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro

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Speaker 1: here talking technology. Our number three of the show. It's

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Speaker 1: about this time when I say, how did this go

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Speaker 1: so fast?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: I wait six Well do I wait six or seven

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Speaker 1: days to do the show every week?

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Speaker 2: And then it goes by like that.

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Speaker 1: Eight a eight rich one oh one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: seven four to two four to one zero one. It's

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Speaker 1: all thanks to you, by the way, because you make

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Speaker 1: the show. I mean I just sit here and talk.

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Speaker 1: You call in with these great questions and really really

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Speaker 1: make the show interesting and take it in directions that

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Speaker 1: I don't think of.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just have the stories.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about to make sure that you

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Speaker 1: know about the tech stuff that's important every week, and

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Speaker 1: that you're up to date. And when people ask you

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Speaker 1: something and you say, oh, hey, I know about that.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: I know Windows is retiring in twenty twenty five, the

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01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: Windows ten.

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01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 3: I know that.

1512
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 2: So you feel smart?

1513
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to Peter in San Gabriel, California.

1514
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 2: Peter, you're on with Rich.

1515
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 3: Uh?

1516
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 2: Oh, Peter, are you there?

1517
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: I just said how great you were and you're leaving

1518
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: me hanging Peter in San Gabriel. Do you have your

1519
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: phone on mute? No, he's not there. All right, we'll

1520
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 1: try again with Peter. Maybe we'll come back.

1521
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 2: In the meantime. Let's see what should I tell you about?

1522
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 1: Now, let's tell you about robotic vacuum maker Nido is

1523
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: shutting down. So I never did a review on this

1524
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: robotic vacuum. I like the eye robots, but there's a

1525
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: whole bunch of other vacuums out there, and Nido was

1526
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 1: one of the more popular brands the other distinctively de

1527
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:03,600
Speaker 1: shaped robot vacuums.

1528
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 2: But they're closing up shop.

1529
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: They told tech Hive that this company is being closed

1530
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 1: down despite lots of restructuring efforts. So the good news

1531
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 1: is if you have one of these robots, they are

1532
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 1: going to basically keep them running for at least five years.

1533
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 1: So spare parts and repair service will be at least

1534
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: five years, and the cloud services will be at least

1535
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: five years. So if you have one, you've got a

1536
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: little bit of a runway for your vacuum to still

1537
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 1: work before it totally sucks.

1538
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 2: Ha, get it.

1539
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 1: I know I'm in here by myself, you know, sometimes

1540
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: I just have to amuse myself. Nido was founded in

1541
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, and a lot of people like

1542
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 1: the robots. They were reviewed pretty highly. They also were

1543
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 1: among the first to incorporate lightar technology to map out

1544
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 1: the room. But Nito going away, So if you've got one,

1545
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 1: you've got five years to plan for a new one.

1546
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 2: All right, do we have it? Looks like Peter is back?

1547
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 2: Pete be there?

1548
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 10: Yes?

1549
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: What happened? When we need a technology to work? It

1550
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 1: didn't work? Why are we seeing this trend?

1551
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 10: I don't know. But this phone, I don't know what

1552
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 10: it is is Okay and I have a nineteen twenty

1553
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 10: nineteen version Nissan Okay and my singer compos is the

1554
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 10: one the computer and everything. When I go to when

1555
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:41,919
Speaker 10: I started with this car, I got the map actually

1556
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 10: to show up on this thing. But I don't know

1557
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 10: how I did it, but now it won't throw up

1558
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 10: when I wanted to, and it just goes through the

1559
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 10: bluetooth and it just gives me voice direction. I wanted

1560
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 10: to actually move it from the phone, like put the

1561
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 10: phone up to the side, looking on the screen.

1562
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 1: What kind of phone you said? You have an Android phone? Right,

1563
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 1: You're you're breaking up a lot, but okay, motog moto

1564
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 1: g and are you plugging the phone in or is

1565
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: it wireless?

1566
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:16,600
Speaker 10: It's wireless. It's going on by bluetooth. And I noticed that.

1567
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 1: Okay, let me on, maybe move to a little bit

1568
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: of a better signal area in your home, because I'm

1569
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,520
Speaker 1: really having trouble hearing you. But from what I'm gathering,

1570
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,879
Speaker 1: you are trying to get your Android Auto and maps

1571
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 1: on the center console of the car, versus just having

1572
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: it speak the directions.

1573
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 2: Is that right?

1574
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 10: Right?

1575
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 2: Okay?

1576
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like if your car has Android Auto

1577
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 1: and you said you have a Nissan Versa. I think

1578
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 1: you said twenty nineteen. So let's take a look if

1579
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 1: that has Android Auto. So it does look like it

1580
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 1: has it, so that's good news. What I would do

1581
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 1: is try plugging in your phone and seeing if that

1582
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: helps to bring up the Android Auto. The other thing

1583
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 1: you might want to do is reset the connection. So

1584
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: go on your dashboard, delete the Bluetooth connection between the phone,

1585
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 1: and then replug it in. Now if you are okay,

1586
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:22,600
Speaker 1: So it does have wireless, so it looks like it

1587
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 1: looks like you do have some wireless connections available to

1588
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 1: you at this with this setup. But have you tried

1589
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: restarting all of your different Have you tried restarting all

1590
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: of the different connections to this like, have you tried

1591
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 1: reconnecting it?

1592
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 3: Or no?

1593
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 10: Well, as fun, it's like when I'm on a a

1594
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 10: phone call or or where I'm listening to the radio,

1595
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 10: it's it's tend to tell me the bluetooth. Okay, so

1596
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 10: look on my phone and yeah, the Bluetooth goes up.

1597
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 10: Wondering if it's the loops.

1598
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 9: On the phone.

1599
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, if I need.

1600
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 10: To update or something, it keeps going out.

1601
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, considering the way you're sounding on this phone calls,

1602
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: it sounds like it could be a problem with your phone.

1603
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 1: It sounds like it's it's almost like something is running

1604
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 1: in the background of your phone that's causing it to

1605
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,719
Speaker 1: chop up. So a couple things I would do. Number One,

1606
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,679
Speaker 1: on your Android phone, I would go through your list

1607
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 1: of apps and get rid of any apps that you

1608
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:32,600
Speaker 1: don't recognize or don't need. Once you do that, I

1609
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: would go through and update all of your apps. Then

1610
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: I would go through and I would update the software

1611
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: on your device, so make sure that your software is

1612
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 1: up to date by going into your settings and updating

1613
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: your Android software on your phone. Once all that is done,

1614
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: I would then go into your settings and search for

1615
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: reset and then you'll get a thing for reset options,

1616
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: and there's this, there's an option for reset Fi Fi

1617
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: Mobile and Bluetooth. I would tap that and then reset

1618
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 1: all of those settings. Now, what that's going to do

1619
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: is it's going to clear out all of the Wi

1620
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: Fi and Bluetooth settings you have on your phone currently,

1621
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: which means you will have to connect it to your

1622
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 1: car once again. But before you do that, I would

1623
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: go on the versa and I would go into your

1624
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 1: profiles for your Bluetooth and I would delete my phone

1625
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 1: out of those profiles. So basically you are starting with

1626
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 1: a completely fresh slate, and then I would go through

1627
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 1: I would plug your phone in using USB. It should say, hey,

1628
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 1: we noticed you have Android Auto. Do you want to

1629
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 1: use it? And go through the setup process of pairing

1630
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 1: your phone with Android Auto and the Bluetooth, and then

1631
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: go ahead and play some music, make a phone call,

1632
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 1: try out the Android Auto. If it's still not working,

1633
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 1: you could have a bigger problem on your hands with

1634
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,560
Speaker 1: your phone or the car. But if you want a

1635
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: troublesh the car, just get a friend that has an

1636
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 1: Android phone and plug in their phone and see if

1637
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 1: if it works. And if it does work, then you

1638
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: know it's your phone. But just based on Peter how

1639
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: you were sounding here, it sounds like it's something on

1640
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: your phone. I would go ahead and kind of just

1641
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: restart things, reset things, and see if that triggers the

1642
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 1: help that you need to get this all figured out.

1643
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: So good question, and hopefully you get that figured out,

1644
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 1: because there's nothing worse than your phone not working in

1645
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 1: your car. That's just not fun. And so believe me,

1646
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 1: it's happened. It's not a good thing, and you want

1647
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 1: that to work. So great question. Thanks for giving me

1648
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 1: a call today. From San Gabriel, Peter and San Gabriel.

1649
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 1: By the way, all I could think of was Peter

1650
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 1: Gabriel in your Eyes that song, because on my screen

1651
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 1: here it says Peter Gabriel. So that's all I see

1652
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 1: when I see that triple A Rich one one eight

1653
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two four to one zero one.

1654
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: If you want to get in on a phone call.

1655
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 1: Coming up later on the show, we're gonna have Lauren Dragon.

1656
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 1: She is the Wirecutter reviewer for headphones. She's gonna tell

1657
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: us her best picks for headphones and also talk about

1658
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: the over the counter hearing aids.

1659
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 2: Something I tried out this week that I think is

1660
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:13,759
Speaker 2: really cool.

1661
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 1: My friend told me about it many many months ago,

1662
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: I think last summer, and I finally got around.

1663
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:19,560
Speaker 2: To doing it.

1664
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 1: It's called cinch Cynch and I linked it up on

1665
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 1: my website rich on tech dot TV. But instead of

1666
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 1: going to exchange your pro paine tanks, you literally just

1667
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 1: download the app, fill out the form, and they will

1668
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: come to you and exchange your pro pain tanks. Now

1669
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: you might think, oh, Rich, it's gonna be so expensive,

1670
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay No, it was like basically the same

1671
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 1: price as me lugging around the tanks to the gas

1672
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 1: station and exchanging them. And when you do that, like

1673
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 1: for me, I don't want to do any other errands

1674
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: because you know, these tanks are rolling around in the

1675
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 1: back of your car, and when they roll, they really

1676
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 1: roll hard. And so this was so easy. I did

1677
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 1: the form, I signed up the exchange. Whatever it costs

1678
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 1: was about the same as the gas station. If you're

1679
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 1: a first time customer, you get like a pretty good deal.

1680
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 1: It's like ten bucks for your first exchange. I left

1681
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 1: two tanks out overnight. They come to your house. I

1682
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 1: heard the truck come. I looked outside. I saw a

1683
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 1: big pickup truck with a whole bunch of pro Paine tanks.

1684
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 1: They took my old tanks, they replaced them with the

1685
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,759
Speaker 1: new ones, and I did not have to leave my house.

1686
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 1: This is like a game changer for me because it

1687
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 1: was just so easy. Because exchanging pro Paine tanks is

1688
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 1: something I never want to do, and so the fact

1689
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 1: that I was that I had someone else come to

1690
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: me to do this, I felt guilty. But this is

1691
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 1: how technology works. I mean, you use an app for

1692
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 1: everything these days, and now you can use it to

1693
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: exchange your pro pain tanks, so it's great. I guess

1694
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 1: I can tell you on the next show because I'm

1695
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 1: planning on using the pro paine tanks tonight how the

1696
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 1: actual propine works. But again, I was very impressed. I

1697
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 1: looked up this company and my friend actually told me

1698
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,600
Speaker 1: about it last year. Like I said, but it's in

1699
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 1: a bunch of different cities across the nation, so it's

1700
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,719
Speaker 1: not just here in Los Angeles, but it's all across

1701
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 1: the nation. So it's run by one of the propane companies, Ameergas,

1702
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 1: I guess is the company that makes it.

1703
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 2: So I thought it was pretty cool. I don't know,

1704
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 2: you got to tell me what you think.

1705
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 1: The propane exchange was about the same price, like I said,

1706
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 1: I think it was like twenty six bucks or something.

1707
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 1: But if you want, you can also get new tanks

1708
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: as well. The only little catch I noticed is that

1709
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 1: if you want to leave your pro paine tanks in

1710
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: a more secure location, like on the side of your

1711
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: house behind a gate, they do charge you an extra

1712
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 1: two dollars for that. Otherwise, the propane tanks, if you

1713
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 1: leave them in front of your garage, in front of

1714
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,600
Speaker 1: your house, that's the you know, they don't charge you

1715
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: any extra, so there was no delivery fee, there was

1716
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 1: no sort of like fees added on.

1717
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:49,879
Speaker 2: I thought it was all very reasonable.

1718
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 1: So if you want to try this out, I know

1719
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 1: summer's coming up and it's time for grilling season. Rich

1720
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 1: on Tech dot TV, I'll put a link to the

1721
01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 1: Cinch Propane Exchange.

1722
01:26:59,479 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1723
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty cool. It's one of those

1724
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 1: little errands that you know, you never get around to.

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we're gonna talk headphones and we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about a new AI tool for Mother's Day.

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Speaker 1: Plus your calls at triple eight rich one oh one.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you,

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01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 1: talking technology. One of my favorite topics in the world. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it better be. I talk about it a lot.

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Speaker 1: Triple A rich one on one eight eight eight seven

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Speaker 1: four to two, four to one zero one. Coming up,

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Speaker 1: I've got a great guest, Lauren Dragon. She reviews all

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Speaker 1: of the headphones for Wirecutter, and you hear me mention

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01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 1: them a lot. So we're gonna talk about some of

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01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 1: the best picks for headphones earbuds. And also we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about those new over the counter hearing aids

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01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 1: because that's a hot topic these days. Let's first go

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Speaker 1: to Stephen in Los Angeles. Steven, you're on with Rich.

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01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much for taking my call.

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01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:13,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 11: So, I have a PC Windows eleven and uh, you know,

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01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 11: Microsoft workus forces you to do the upgrades, and it

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01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 11: this messes up my contacts. I can't access my contacts

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01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 11: and so I'll try to redo passwords and stuff like that.

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01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 11: And with the latest update this week, out looks completely different.

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01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 11: It doesn't even have like the little icon thing with

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01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 11: a two heads contact, so it's a mess.

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01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 1: So, yes, things change with software updates, which is why

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01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: people are always hesitant to do them, and so I

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01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 1: always recommend doing the software updates. But I understand when

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01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: when that happens, things change. And Outlook, I know recently

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01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 1: on the Mac got a big make over as well,

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01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: Like they just recently came out with an app and

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01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 1: then they kind of updated it and so things did

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01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 1: change there. But you're saying the same thing happened on PC. Now,

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01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 1: when I use Outlook on the PC, I use the

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01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 1: web version of it because I don't want to deal

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01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 1: with the app at all. So I actually go to

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01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 1: like I think it's like Owa dot Outlook dot com

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01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 1: or something like that, and I found that the web

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01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: version recently changed as well. But what's the problem. So

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01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:30,520
Speaker 1: you can't find your contacts?

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01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 11: Well, I just brought it up and you know, hoping

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01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 11: i'd get on the show. And so they actually do

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Speaker 11: have a two personaltalle icon graphic thing and so I

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01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 11: see all those contacts. But here's the thing. It looks

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01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 11: like it's this contacts and the root email is. When

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Speaker 11: I was sitting this up, I was just clicking and

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Speaker 11: click and you click this, and so it's only I

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Speaker 11: have three emails, And how do I change the root email?

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Speaker 11: I can see like everything, I mean, have a setup

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Speaker 11: con Outlook with Microsoft so that I have all of

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Speaker 11: the other three emails.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you have to go in to your settings

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01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 1: and add those other email addresses. So do you not

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01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 1: have those added on here or what.

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Speaker 11: I thought I did? But it looks like when I

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01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:25,799
Speaker 11: bring up contexts, the root is from like my spam

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01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 11: email address, the one.

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Speaker 1: That you give out to people that you know we're

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Speaker 1: going to spam you. Well, there should be if you

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01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 1: have multiple accounts, I'm not sure if the outlook will

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01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 1: merge all of those different contacts into one sort of

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01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 1: master list, but you should be able to see that

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01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,759
Speaker 1: you would have different lists for the different email accounts

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Speaker 1: that you have there. I only have one account logged in,

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Speaker 1: so I can't see if there's a way to see others.

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Speaker 11: Is there a way to change though the root email

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01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 11: address from the spam email to like my more basic

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01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 11: email so since as email.

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Speaker 1: Address, Yeah, so I would go into your settings and

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01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 1: change the default email address and that would probably do it.

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01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 1: So once you add all three of these that, I

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01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:11,559
Speaker 1: think that's the way to do it is change the

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Speaker 1: one that's the actual default email. So it sounds like

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Speaker 1: when you went through the setting, some things got changed.

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Speaker 1: But if you have three different email addresses and then.

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Speaker 11: I download the Microsoft three sixty five and then you're

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Speaker 11: going through it, and then it just for some reason

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Speaker 11: to pick my spam email address is like the root

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Speaker 11: or whatever, I just said, Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sure click, and now you can't get back. Now you

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01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 1: got to I'm the same way. I'm the one that

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01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 1: I blast through all. I've actually gotten slower over the

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Speaker 1: years because I was famous for just blasting through anything,

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01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 1: and I realized when you blast through those menus, you

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01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 1: got to be careful because all the settings are the

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01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 1: best settings for the company, not necessarily for the user.

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01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 11: Why is it that there's never enough time to do

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Speaker 11: it right the first time, but there's always enough time

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Speaker 11: to do it again over right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And getting back to those settings again, by the way,

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Speaker 1: they try to hide them as much as possible, And

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Speaker 1: so that's you know, that's.

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Speaker 11: Why I'm in setting and I see system, Bluetooth devices, network, internet, personalization, apps, accounts, time, language, gaming,

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01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 11: blah blah blah, blah blah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I find your way into the setting specifically for Outlook.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we want to go through it

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Speaker 1: all right here, because you know it may take you

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Speaker 1: a second to find it, but I would find the

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Speaker 1: setting specifically for email and Outlook, and then inside there

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01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 1: you should see where it has your different accounts that

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01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:35,680
Speaker 1: are linked up to that specific app. And once you

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Speaker 1: find that, there should be a way to either write

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Speaker 1: click it, or go in there and just say this

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01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 1: is my default and hopefully all of those contacts show up.

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Speaker 1: You may also have to toggle on the fact that

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Speaker 1: you want those contacts to propagate into the app, because

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01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 1: sometimes they won't necessarily come on unless you turn them on.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully that helps, Steven. I know it's it's one

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01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:58,719
Speaker 1: of these things where it's kind of like a settings

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01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 1: thing where you just have to kind of go through

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01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 1: get the settings the way you want them, and once

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Speaker 1: you do, hopefully things will be good and you'll get

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Speaker 1: your contacts back. All right, coming up, we've got Lauren Dragon.

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Speaker 1: She is standing on the line ready to talk to

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Speaker 1: us about headphones and earbuds and also over the counter

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Speaker 1: hearing aids.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to rich on Tech will be right back.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here with you talking technology, and I'm very

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01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: excited for my next guest, so I'm just gonna go

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01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: ahead and bring her on. Lauren Dragon is a reviewer

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Speaker 1: for Wirecutter, specializing in headphones and earbuds and all the

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01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 1: stuff that I get a lot of questions about on

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Speaker 1: a daily basis.

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Speaker 2: Lauren, thanks so much for joining me.

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Speaker 12: Hey, thanks for having me, and you have.

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Speaker 1: The distinction of being our first guest via zoom and

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Speaker 1: you sound like you're right next to me here.

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Speaker 13: I love it, I love it, and that is what

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01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 13: I'm here for is good audio in all types of forms.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would say if you didn't sound good

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Speaker 1: and you were giving us audio recommendations, that would be

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Speaker 1: a major problem.

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Speaker 13: It really would, I know. So I feel like I

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01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:07,680
Speaker 13: have a reputation to polld hair.

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Speaker 2: Yes you do.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So tell me a little bit about what you

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Speaker 1: do for Wirecutter before we get into all this stuff.

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Speaker 12: Okay, So I'm a senior staff writer. I write for Wirecutter.

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Speaker 13: I test headphones, earbuds, earplugs, and over.

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01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 12: The counter hearing aids. What does that mean.

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Speaker 13: It means that I do a ton of research and

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01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 13: then we do panel testing, We do endurance testing, we

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01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 13: do battery testing, water resistance testing, all sorts of things

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01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 13: until we figure out what is out there that is

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Speaker 13: the best thing that you can spend your money on.

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Speaker 13: And since I started at Wirecutter, which was a good

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Speaker 13: number of years ago, almost ten years ago now, I

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01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 13: have tested one thy seven hundred and fifty headphones a

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01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 13: little more now, but somewhere in there they've all been

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Speaker 13: on my head.

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Speaker 2: So, oh my gosh, that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's like me with like cell phones, like for

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01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 1: a while there was just so many phones coming out

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01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 1: that I was just you know, testing all of them.

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01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 1: Now it's like just Samsung iPhone and like OnePlus, so

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01:34:58,080 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 1: it's not that many anymore.

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01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 2: Okay, but let's get into this stuff.

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01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 1: So let's talk about, first off, the hot topic of

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01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:09,840
Speaker 1: over the counter hearing aids. This is new and we're

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01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:11,640
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of them. So what's your thoughts on

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01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 1: this stuff? Tell me what we need to know about that.

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Speaker 13: Okay, So there's a few key things you want to

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01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 13: think about when you're going into this process. So the

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01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 13: first thing is that it is going to take time

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01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 13: for your brain to adjust to the new input. So

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01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 13: someone actually explained this to me like this. If you've

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01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 13: ever moved into a new apartment and every single sound

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01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 13: you hear it wakes you up, the garbage truck outside,

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01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 13: some creakings and the floors, and then after time, your

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01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:38,640
Speaker 13: brain kind of gets used to those sounds and you

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01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 13: aren't really aware of it anymore. The same thing happens

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01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 13: with hearing aids. You're boosting frequencies that your brain hasn't

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01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,680
Speaker 13: been listening to for a very long time, so now

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01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 13: it sounds really weird and loud, and so the key

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Speaker 13: is you need to give yourself time to acclimate. So

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01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,639
Speaker 13: the reason I say this is when you're looking to buy,

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01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:56,720
Speaker 13: you want to make sure you find a company that

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01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:58,719
Speaker 13: has a generous return policy.

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01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:00,679
Speaker 12: So we're talking as long as possible.

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01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 13: So the ones that we recommend range anywhere from the

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01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:06,160
Speaker 13: very minimal thirty days to up to one hundred days.

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01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:07,639
Speaker 13: So you want to have that time to make sure

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01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:09,639
Speaker 13: it's working for you and it's not just your brain

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01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 13: taking its time to get used to the new input.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's some really good advice.

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Speaker 1: And so I know that initially there are some companies

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01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:19,639
Speaker 1: that came out with these right off the bat. It's

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01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 1: only been like less than a year, I believe. So

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Speaker 1: do you have any recommendations for brands that you like?

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01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 12: I do.

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01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:26,639
Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 13: One of the ones that I really liked and that

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01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 13: our panelists like, and I should make sure that I'm

1919
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 13: clear about this is that we worked with four different

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01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 13: people of different genders and age groups to try all

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01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 13: of these out and really live with them before we

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01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 13: made any recommendations. It's very time intensive, but I wanted

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01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 13: to make sure that we had sort of a consensus,

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01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 13: because you know, what works for one person may not

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01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 13: work for other people. So if I found overlap, it

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01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 13: meant that somebody would be more likely to like these,

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01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 13: But you know, everyone's got different needs. So one of

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01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:01,520
Speaker 13: the ones that we recommend is by Jabra Jabra Enhance Select.

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01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 13: There's the one hundred and the two hundred. They used

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Speaker 13: to be made by company called Lively. Now they're covered

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01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:08,800
Speaker 13: by Jabra, but they're the exact same thing.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen ads for those on TV

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Speaker 1: like Lively. I feel like that was like a big

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01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 1: advertiser on TV for a while.

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Speaker 13: They were yeah, and now they're part of Jabra, which

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Speaker 13: I think is actually kind of great because Jabra is

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Speaker 13: owned by GN who also does other hearing aids that

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Speaker 13: are prescription based, So they have a lot of infrastructure,

1939
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 13: which means you're going to have a lot of support,

1940
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 13: and that's why we like them.

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01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 12: They have one hundred day.

1942
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:33,679
Speaker 13: Return policy, they have a three year warranty and three

1943
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 13: years of support. So basically what that means is if

1944
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:40,080
Speaker 13: you run into problems anytime you need help, you can

1945
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:41,840
Speaker 13: get in touch with somebody and they will talk you

1946
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 13: through it, which is really helpful, especially if you're someone

1947
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 13: who's a little bit weird. And you know, kind of

1948
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 13: concerned about new technology. It's really great to have those.

1949
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:53,639
Speaker 13: They're behind the ear and they have the little module

1950
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:56,679
Speaker 13: back there, and the two hundred takes calls. The one

1951
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 13: hundred doesn't. So it's up to us to whether that's important.

1952
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 13: But the my panelists love how light they were, how

1953
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 13: good they sounded, and how versatile they were because they

1954
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 13: could also stream music, which is a big thing for people.

1955
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely.

1956
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:10,960
Speaker 1: Now I'm looking at the price on these, you're talking

1957
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:14,760
Speaker 1: about anywhere from eighteen hundred to two thousand dollars.

1958
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 12: Fifteen hundred to two thousand.

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01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so depending on whether you get the one hundreds

1960
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 1: or the two hundred's correct. So this is this is

1961
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 1: why you want that return policy because you know, this

1962
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:26,560
Speaker 1: is an expensive proposition.

1963
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 4: Yes.

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01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 13: And the thing is is that we did test some

1965
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 13: of the cheaper things out there, and I'm going to

1966
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,680
Speaker 13: tell you the reason why the cheapest one that we

1967
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 13: recommend is three hundred and fifty per year is because

1968
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 13: the other ones were just they were going to be junk.

1969
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 13: I mean, honestly, a lot of our panelists were like,

1970
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 13: this wouldn end up in a drawer and then you're out,

1971
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 13: you know, two hundred dollars, and yeah, it's less expensive,

1972
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 13: but in the end it becomes more expensive because now

1973
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:55,719
Speaker 13: you've spent money on something that squeals or has weird controls,

1974
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 13: or doesn't amplify the air, you know, the sound frequencies

1975
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 13: that you want or falls out or is uncomfortable, and

1976
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 13: that's not what you want to have. That's not what

1977
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:05,960
Speaker 13: you want to have is your experience. You want to

1978
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 13: have something that is integrated into your life.

1979
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 2: So the three fifty per year, which brand is.

1980
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:13,360
Speaker 12: That, that's the tweak enhance.

1981
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 13: So they're really a very basic, you know, kind of

1982
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 13: plug and play hearing aids. So we're not talking about

1983
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 13: doing a ton of we're not streaming music. You do

1984
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:25,800
Speaker 13: need a phone to set it up initially, but then

1985
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:27,879
Speaker 13: after that you don't need to use the app anymore.

1986
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 13: So that's great for someone who, for example, they're like, look,

1987
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 13: I don't have a smartphone, I don't want to deal

1988
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:34,680
Speaker 13: with this. You can have a friend to help you

1989
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 13: set it up, and then after that you just use

1990
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 13: them like normal hearing aids. And they are you know,

1991
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:43,240
Speaker 13: they're they're not splash resistant, but they do have a

1992
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 13: thirty day return policy. They do have adjustability and they

1993
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 13: have some support, which is great. So that's why we

1994
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 13: recommend those as sort of a base model, and so

1995
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 13: it really does range. I mean those are kind of

1996
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 13: behind the ears. If you want something where no one

1997
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 13: can see your hearing aids at all and it looks

1998
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 13: like you're wearing nothing, then Eargo is the way to go.

1999
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 13: The Eergo six are inside your ears and you literally

2000
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 13: cannot tell that someone's wearing them.

2001
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, so three good options there. Now let's

2002
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 1: move on to sort of headphones. So you know people

2003
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 1: want noise cancelation headphones and also earbuds. So do you

2004
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 1: have any picks for sort of noise cancelation headphones that

2005
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:23,640
Speaker 1: you really like? I mean, I know, we know the

2006
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 1: Bows are like heavily advertised. Are those as good as everyone?

2007
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 2: You know?

2008
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 1: I mean I had a pair of these like years ago,

2009
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 1: but now I know people like the Sony's.

2010
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 2: But what's your pick?

2011
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 13: Okay, So I'm gonna say that with some caveats. So

2012
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:40,599
Speaker 13: when it comes to purely noise cancelation, so we're talking

2013
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 13: about that is your b all end all. You want

2014
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:46,599
Speaker 13: the most noise cancelation possible, then yes, the Bows noise

2015
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:51,640
Speaker 13: canceling seven hundred over your headphones are really great at that. However,

2016
01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 13: if you want something that is more isolating, and I

2017
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 13: use this word isolating because active noise cancelation only works

2018
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:02,880
Speaker 13: on lower frequency sounds, so you need to have good

2019
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 13: isolation if you want to block out voices, babies crying,

2020
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 13: things like that. So for that, I would say you'd

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01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:12,559
Speaker 13: want to actually go with the Sony W twent thousand,

2022
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 13: XM four or XM five, depending on which one you want.

2023
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:15,960
Speaker 12: They're very similar.

2024
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:18,200
Speaker 1: And I've used the Sony's and the Bows and I

2025
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 1: think they're both great. And I think also some of

2026
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 1: that comes down to the comfort of the actual earbuds,

2027
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:25,679
Speaker 1: you know, like the or sorry, the headphone like area,

2028
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 1: Like how comfortable they are to wear for a long

2029
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 1: period of time.

2030
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 2: Oh, that's key.

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01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:32,559
Speaker 1: So people always like to know kind of like the

2032
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:34,720
Speaker 1: budget stuff. So can you give me sort of your

2033
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 1: pick in like the budget areas, so like maybe budget

2034
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 1: headphones and also budget earbuds.

2035
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:44,160
Speaker 13: Okay, so if we are talking budget earbuds, the Earfun

2036
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:48,439
Speaker 13: free to SR have no business being twenty seven dollars,

2037
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 13: which is what they are right now. They are IBX seven.

2038
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 13: They have a wireless charging case. They have a seven

2039
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 13: hour battery. They are small, they have full touch controls,

2040
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 13: they are comfortable, and they sound good. I mean it

2041
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:01,479
Speaker 13: is just I don't know how they do it, but

2042
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 13: they're fantastic little buds for very little money and you

2043
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 13: really can't go wrong with them.

2044
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 2: Ear Fun Free one S two S two S.

2045
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:15,920
Speaker 13: I know these names, but luckily all of this is

2046
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 13: on the website, so if you're at all confused ny

2047
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 13: Times dot com slash wirecutter, you'll be able to find

2048
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:21,760
Speaker 13: this stuff.

2049
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 12: Again.

2050
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:24,920
Speaker 1: Yes, we're not expecting you to remember all of these

2051
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 1: things because we're talking about a lot here.

2052
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:28,599
Speaker 2: Okay, so the ear.

2053
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:32,519
Speaker 1: Funds we like, and then what about you know, sort

2054
01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:35,760
Speaker 1: of over the year headphones for just cheap pair, like

2055
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 1: a nice pair that you don't mind losing if you

2056
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 1: lose them.

2057
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, So it'll depend on what you're looking for. So

2058
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 13: if you want noise cancelation that's actually functional, the one

2059
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 13: more Sono Flow or around one hundred dollars sometimes less,

2060
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:50,599
Speaker 13: and they're very good at you know, they get about

2061
01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:54,640
Speaker 13: we tested about negative fifteen dB from the uh you

2062
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:56,680
Speaker 13: know from your sound brings it down a bit, or

2063
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 13: if you just want some inexpensive on ears that just

2064
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 13: work the job or Elite forty five h are usually

2065
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 13: under one hundred dollars and they're comfortable and they're lightweight

2066
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:09,080
Speaker 13: and they're just easy to kind of toss in a bag.

2067
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so you've given us some brands that we know,

2068
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:15,720
Speaker 1: some brands that we don't know. So before you just

2069
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 1: buy a pair of these things in the store, sight

2070
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 1: on scene or one of these websites that sort of

2071
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:23,000
Speaker 1: forces you to buy. You know, you know those websites

2072
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 1: I'm talking about where it's like this is going on

2073
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 1: sale and it's going to be over in ten minutes.

2074
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 12: Lord, those sites, Yeah, you.

2075
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:31,760
Speaker 1: Could just tell whenever you see a countdown time or

2076
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:33,719
Speaker 1: on a site, you know it's probably not very good.

2077
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:37,200
Speaker 1: The only exception is Amazon with their lightning deals. I

2078
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:39,920
Speaker 1: wish they didn't do that because it confuses everyone. You know,

2079
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:43,680
Speaker 1: it feels like that sense of urgency it does.

2080
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 12: And I don't like that.

2081
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:46,920
Speaker 13: And also too, I think there's something about those sites

2082
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 13: that people don't realize that it's it's going to be

2083
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:50,640
Speaker 13: back again, Like it's not.

2084
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 12: It's all it's all fraudulent.

2085
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:54,639
Speaker 2: They're there to sell this stuff.

2086
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 1: It's not They're not going to close up the website

2087
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 1: after sixteen minutes exactly.

2088
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 13: Yeah, But to me, the most important thing when you're

2089
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:04,120
Speaker 13: looking at a brand and when we recommend things, we

2090
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:06,160
Speaker 13: want to make sure that the company is going to

2091
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 13: be there to support you if things go wrong. So

2092
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 13: we look at things like warranty and the customer support

2093
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 13: and their ability to respond to that kind of stuff.

2094
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 13: So it's not just the point of purchase, you know. Granted, yes,

2095
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 13: it does help in the early stages to think about

2096
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:23,640
Speaker 13: like Amazon taking easy returns or best Buy, but you

2097
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 13: also want to think about the long term when you're

2098
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:28,800
Speaker 13: outside of that return window and how well they actually do.

2099
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:30,920
Speaker 13: So that's something that I take time to look into.

2100
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 13: Is you know, I'll sometimes just make a you know,

2101
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 13: kind of burner account and get in touch with them

2102
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 13: about something and see how they do the.

2103
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 1: Process, like a little secret shopper there. Actually, Yeah, what

2104
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 1: do you enjoy about this before we go? What do

2105
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:47,479
Speaker 1: you like about testing headphones? What's fun for you about this?

2106
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 1: Since you've tested over a thousand pairs, I know, you know, I.

2107
01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 13: Think the most important thing to me is I love

2108
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:57,280
Speaker 13: the feeling of being able to help people and I

2109
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:00,120
Speaker 13: love kind of being I kind of jokingly call myself

2110
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 13: if a headphone Yenta, because I'm matchmaking people with things

2111
01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:04,760
Speaker 13: that are going to be part of their day to

2112
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 13: day life. And I love getting to find out new

2113
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,720
Speaker 13: things that people might need, and so like recently I've

2114
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:14,440
Speaker 13: been looking into missiphonia and sensory processing disorders and autism

2115
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:18,920
Speaker 13: and how maybe people who have audio sensitivities might have

2116
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 13: different preferences and how can I test for that? And

2117
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 13: I think that that is just so much fun to me,

2118
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:26,679
Speaker 13: is kind of seeing what's new and technology and seeing

2119
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:28,679
Speaker 13: how it can make people's lives easier and better.

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01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 2: I love it. Lauren Dragon.

2121
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 1: Always fun to do stories with you for both KTLA,

2122
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:36,200
Speaker 1: seeing you at CS and of course right here now

2123
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 1: on the radio show. Thanks for having the best audio

2124
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:39,599
Speaker 1: of any guests so far.

2125
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 12: You are welcome. Thank you for having me.

2126
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 1: All right, I'll put a link to Lauren's reviews on

2127
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 1: my website. Just go to rich on tech dot tv

2128
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 1: for all of Lauren Dragon's Wirecutter Headphone reviews. Coming up,

2129
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about oh my gosh. We're going

2130
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 1: to close out the show. We're going to talk about

2131
01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 1: a new way that you can AI.

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01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 2: For Mother's Day.

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01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:03,599
Speaker 1: Yes, it's going to be easier to write your mom

2134
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:06,519
Speaker 1: a little poem or a note with her flowers this

2135
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:10,559
Speaker 1: year rich On Tech, Rich Demiro here will be right back.

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01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

2137
01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:31,559
Speaker 1: out with you talking technology. And Wow, what a great

2138
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:34,760
Speaker 1: show it's been today. So many great questions, so many

2139
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 1: great stories, and I've got more more where that came from.

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01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 1: So first off, let me start with this. So I

2141
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:45,640
Speaker 1: was talking to my brother and I forget how this

2142
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 1: came up, but he was mentioning about nearby Share on Android,

2143
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:54,600
Speaker 1: and nearby Share is pretty much Android's answer to airdrop.

2144
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 1: So if you have a Mac computer, well, let's put

2145
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:00,000
Speaker 1: it this way. If you have an iPhone, you've probably

2146
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 1: used air drop. It's the way that you can drop

2147
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 1: or send wirelessly big files from phone to phone. So

2148
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 1: if a friend is like, hey, you just took a

2149
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 1: bunch of pictures, can he air drop those to me?

2150
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:13,080
Speaker 1: You can select the pictures and send them to their

2151
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 1: phone ad hoc, which means it goes from their phone

2152
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:19,640
Speaker 1: to your phone without going through a cellular network. It

2153
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 1: just goes over Wi Fi direct basically, but you know,

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Speaker 1: it's Apple, so they like to rename things into their

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Speaker 1: own stuff so that you don't really know what's happening.

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Speaker 1: So it's really just Wi Fi direct ninety nine percent

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Speaker 1: of the time, I think, and it's just sending it

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Speaker 1: from Wi Fi on your phone to Wi Fi and

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Speaker 1: their phone. By making that connection directly between the two phones,

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Speaker 1: it's been really easy.

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Speaker 2: It's super nice, it's convenient.

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Speaker 1: You can send big files through it, and iPhone users

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Speaker 1: love it. It also works equally well between iPads and

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Speaker 1: also Mac. Now that's all great, but what if you

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Speaker 1: have an Android? So Android came out with something called

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Speaker 1: Nearby Share and that works from Android to and it's

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Speaker 1: the same thing. It's actually even maybe a little bit

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Speaker 1: better because it might use cellular for tiny files once

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Speaker 1: in a while, but it kind of uses a combination

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Speaker 1: of cellular, Bluetooth, and Wi Fi to get files from

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Speaker 1: your phone to another Android phone. Now that's all great,

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Speaker 1: but what about a PC. So that's been the trouble.

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Speaker 1: You can't go from Android to a Mac, and you

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Speaker 1: can't go from Android to a PC until now they

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Speaker 1: now have a beta version of nearby Share for Windows.

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Speaker 1: So I'm telling you this because if you want to

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Speaker 1: move files between your Android device and your Windows PC. Sure,

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Speaker 1: there are many ways you can do it, but this

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Speaker 1: is kind of like now, the easiest, fastest, simplest way.

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Speaker 1: So I'll put the link on these show notes. But

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Speaker 1: it's called Nearby Share Beta for Windows, and you can

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Speaker 1: install that on your Windows computer and boom. Anything you

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Speaker 1: want to move from your Android phone to your Windows

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Speaker 1: computer you can do.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 1: There is a version for Mac, but it is unofficial.

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Speaker 1: I installed it on my computer. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 1: I should have done that, but I can't recommend installing

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Speaker 1: that right now because it just comes from like sort

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Speaker 1: of an unknown developer.

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Speaker 2: But it does work really well. So that's that now.

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Speaker 1: If you don't have any of those options and you

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Speaker 1: want something that's simple from Android to your computer. I

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Speaker 1: tested out this device called the PNY Duo Link. So

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Speaker 1: PNY is known for their memory for many years, but

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Speaker 1: now this is basically a little flash drive and it's

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Speaker 1: called the Duo Link. It's got two different sides. So

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Speaker 1: one side is a USB C drive. The other side

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Speaker 1: is USBA which is pretty much think of that as

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Speaker 1: the standard USB. And so what you do is you

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Speaker 1: plug the one side USBC into your phone. You copy

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Speaker 1: the files that you need, maybe it's some big video

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Speaker 1: files onto this little drive, and then you stick that

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Speaker 1: drive into your computer and you can transfer the files.

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Speaker 1: I tried this on a Samsung phone. The files I

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Speaker 1: did a really big file. It transferred very very quickly,

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Speaker 1: so this is not that expensive. It is twelve ninety

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Speaker 1: nine for a sixty four gigabyte. It's one hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty eight gigabytes for twenty dollars or two fifty six

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Speaker 1: for thirty dollars. They sell them at best Buy and Amazon,

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Speaker 1: and also of course directly through pn Y. The read

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Speaker 1: write speed is up to two hundred megabytes per second.

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Speaker 1: So if you're looking for a way to transfer big

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Speaker 1: files from your phone, your Android phone to your computer,

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Speaker 1: this is.

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Speaker 2: A easy way.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, it'll work with a Windows computer

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Speaker 1: and also a Mac computer.

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Speaker 2: So there you have it, pretty simple, all right.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned AI for Mother's Day one eight hundred flowers

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Speaker 1: dot Com has a new thing called mom Verse.

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Speaker 2: It's basically chat GPT.

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Speaker 1: You type in your mom's name and you say do

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Speaker 1: you want a haiku, a song or a limerick, and

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Speaker 1: then you say if it's your mom, your grandma or

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Speaker 1: your wife. You tell them what interests they have and

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Speaker 1: guess what it comes up with a little message for mom.

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Speaker 2: Or you know whoever.

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Speaker 1: You're writing that out for so kind of cool stuff

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Speaker 1: right there, I mean so many things, just so many

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Speaker 1: things using chat GBT right, I'm rich Damiro. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it. For this episode of the show. Next week,

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Speaker 1: how does a salad from a vending machine sound? The

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Speaker 1: CEO of Farmers Fridge is going to join me to

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Speaker 1: talk about his fresh food vending machines, which are in

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Speaker 1: locations across the country. You can find me on social media.

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Speaker 1: I am at rich on tech my website richontech dot TV.

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Speaker 1: Check it out to watch my TV segments. Thanks so

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01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:25,360
Speaker 1: much for listening. There are so many ways you can

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Speaker 1: spend your time. I do appreciate you spending it right

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Speaker 1: here with me. Thanks to everyone who makes this show possible.

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you real soon.