1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Hi. I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson. 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationships and 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling raivalry. No, no, sibling. 4 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: You don't do that with your mouth revelry. That's good, Oliver. 5 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: You know what's so crazy about when we're airing this 6 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: episode is that it marks literally a year from lockdown 7 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: from quarantine. It was like, oh, oh, our last, our 8 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: last in person, right right, it was fortune, Fortune and Price. 9 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: Then I guess a couple of weeks later, right or something, 10 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: we went down. Yeah. Yeah, because Bodie's birthday, my middle kid, 11 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: ten days after this, March nineteenth, and we had a 12 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: we did not have a birthday party because in your 13 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: COVID nightteen and Body's so cool. He was like, okay, whatever, 14 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: He's like, good time. And by the way, body's going 15 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: to be he's gonna it's March nineteenth is coming up. 16 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: He'll be a two birthday COVID kid. I can't wait. 17 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: I can't wait for everyone to be vaccinated. I just 18 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: I just I just can't wait to be sitting in 19 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: your in your study with the siblings across from us 20 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: like we did. Like we drinking a glass of wine 21 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: or a tequila or spritzer whatever it is. We used 22 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: to get like wasted. Yeah, we had like drinking sessions. 23 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: We're fun and I can't wait. I'm just kidding it. 24 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: We never got wasted. I wouldn't be able to do 25 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: interviews wasted. I never been more excited for a vaccination 26 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: in my whole life. I'm getting ready. I just need 27 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: someone to put it, put it in my arm or 28 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: on my bat. I'm excited that that people who have 29 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: been really like having a hard time getting out into 30 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: the world and reintegrating because you know, jobs and things 31 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: like haven't been hiring. I'm just excited that people are 32 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: going to start to go back to work. You know, 33 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: that's going to be so great. Yeah. You can kind 34 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: of feel the light at the end of the tunnel, 35 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: can't you. You can sort of feel it, and then 36 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: you just don't want to get despondent? Is that the 37 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: right word. I think desponded. Despond Hey, Siri, I think 38 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: what's the definition of despondent. I think that might work. 39 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: It's a state feeling its discouraged. Yeah, yeah, I'm right. 40 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: I think you're desponding. I think I'm not sure it's 41 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 1: the right word. It's more like complacent. Maybe complacent Maybe 42 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: that's what you were Complacent might be the better word. Yeah, 43 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: Now complacent, isn't it smug or uncritical? Satisfaction with oneself 44 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: or one's achievements. Definitely the wrong that's complacency. Yeah, what 45 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: you were trying to say, so, don't get meaning, don't 46 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: get complacent, meaning like, don't don't think that we're out 47 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: of the woods and just go out and party. Okay, 48 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: but yeah, but that's not the word complacent is That's 49 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: not the That's not the word I was looking for. 50 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: Damn it. The word is. This is good, This should be, 51 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: this should be. We should put this apart and say, 52 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: what's the word? What's the word? Oh, what's the word? 53 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: The word? What's the word? And then that what's the word? 54 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 1: Then people can write in and and and help all 55 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: of our our terrible vocabulary. That's a good idea. What's 56 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: the word? I like that, It's a great, great title 57 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: for a segment. Okay, Ollie emails emails? What's up with 58 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: these email? What's in your inbox? I hope this first 59 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: one isn't going to be like we're like laughing and 60 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: then it's going to be something sad. But okay, there 61 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: we go. Alison always gives us the sad one. Okay, 62 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to start. So subject line was Wow, that 63 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: last episode with the Duplas brothers of whom I was 64 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: unaware I am embarrassed to admit, was the best capital letters. 65 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: Brutal honesty from all four of you, with Oliver being 66 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: especially vulnerable. If we would all own up to our 67 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: own petty little jealousies and procrastination habits, the world would 68 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: be a much nicer place. Thank you from the Netherlands. Wow. 69 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: You know it's impressive about this. The entire Netherlands wrote this. 70 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: I love all of the Netherlands. This is huge. I mean, 71 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: we love you, we love your Netherlands. Thank you. But 72 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: it's so true. I have one of my favorites. I 73 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: think it does say a lot when you can open 74 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: up and and just be really honest about your your stuff. 75 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: It's so it's so liberating, and isn't it funny. There's 76 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: some episodes and guests that we have on that you 77 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: know you're working a little bit more, and then there 78 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: are some that are just so easy breezy, and it's 79 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: just it just rolls, and the duplace brothers, I just 80 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: felt that I was just it was as if there 81 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,239 Speaker 1: was no mics and we were sitting in a booth 82 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: and having an amazing conversation. Just rolls. So I loved it. 83 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: I love those Yeah, it was so great and and 84 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm I'm so glad they joined us. And I also think, 85 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, we we like to talk about all kinds 86 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: of stuff on here and and we're curious people, but 87 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: really family dynamics is just the most fascinating thing to me, 88 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: I know to you too. That's just something we love. 89 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: And when we get a sibling dynamic that's really juicy 90 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: like that one. That and they're and they're available and 91 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: open to talking about it. I mean, they wrote a 92 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: whole book about it. It was just yeah, so yeah, 93 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 1: I mean I want to work with them. I hope 94 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: that they think I'm talented and they think about me, 95 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, from time time to time. You know what 96 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: I mean. You just did two songs I think think 97 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: about me in time time to time after time, time 98 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: time after time, well in last and in Love if 99 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: I Am. It's the best song ever all right, I'm 100 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: gonna go hi Oliver, Kate and team. First off, I 101 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: want to think thank you for your podcast. I am 102 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: one of four kids in my family, and we all 103 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: have very different relationships with each other, though I consider 104 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: us all to be very close. I find it interesting 105 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: hearing the experiences that different sets of siblings share on 106 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: your show and the research slash findings that the professionals 107 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: you speak with share a lot of. It is so 108 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: relatable and helps me understand some of the experiences or 109 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: feelings I've had with my siblings. I'm hoping I can 110 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: make an episode request among the four of us kids, 111 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: though I say that word lightly, as we are all 112 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: in our late twenties early thirties. Now, I am one 113 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: of three that are the same age. We are triplets. Wow, 114 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: my mom called us her triplet trouble. I'd love to 115 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: hear an episode on triplets, either through others' experiences as triplets, 116 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: or maybe research or psychology on triplets, diving into their 117 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: relationship with each other and their relationships with other siblings. Yes, 118 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: who aren't part of the set of three. That's an 119 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: interesting I have the property brothers, you know, and we 120 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: have had Yeah, but I love that I'll finish, but 121 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: I just love the one that is not the triplet. 122 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: That's like a TV show or something. It's like you've 123 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: got the triplets and then the outcast. It's not often 124 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: we run into other triplets, and I'm always curious about 125 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: how my experience compares to others. Why sometimes I feel 126 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: so much closer to my two triplet brothers than I 127 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: do my older sister, even though we have a lot 128 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: in calm and spend more time together and are very close. 129 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: Most importantly, I just really wanted to thank you for 130 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: doing what you're doing. I have found it to be fascinating, relatable, 131 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: and helps me reflect and better understand my relationships with 132 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: my three amazing siblings. They are my whole world, and 133 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: listening to your podcast has only helped me feel help 134 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: me be a better sister to them. Fondly, Katie, Oh, Katie, 135 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: thank you. Definitely we should look into interviewing a professional 136 00:08:54,440 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: about like twins and triplets and the psychology behind and 137 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: those like how interconnected they are. I mean, I know 138 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: two sets of identical twins. It was almost like they 139 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: were telepathic. They could they like they like would feel 140 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: each other if they were ever traveling. When they got older, 141 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: they would know, like when someone wasn't doing well, or 142 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: they'd wake up and they'd have like almost by osmosis 143 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: illnesses or not like ailments. Yeah, they feel their knee 144 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: and their knee would hurt and they call their sister 145 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: and be like, are you okay, and she'd be like, oh, 146 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: my knee is so bad, like weird stuff like that. 147 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: I just love the left out triplet. We're the one 148 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: that's like, I don't feel anything, guys, and like the 149 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: other two are super connected. But the one triplets or 150 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: the out the outcast triplet, was like I don't feel 151 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, that's gotta happen. I'm sure, I'm sure. I mean, 152 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: how about that story remember that that that documentary about 153 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: the triplets that were all yeah, adopted. There was like 154 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: a social experiment. Yes, that was a crazy documentary. That's yeah, 155 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: I forgot what that was called. That was a good one. 156 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: That was like two years ago. Sad, but it would 157 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: be fun to find a set of do you think 158 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: we should do it? Alison? Alison? Can you find us 159 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: in triplets? Oh my gosh, all right, thank you, Katie. 160 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: I love that. All right, I'm next here we go. Hey, 161 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: Kate and Oliver. I just wanted to first say I 162 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: so love your podcast. I first found your show last 163 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: April when I was packing my oldest daughter's belongings to 164 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: send away to her. She had just been discharged from 165 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: a short term depression treatment center after having tried to 166 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: take her life for the fifth time. I'm not going 167 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: to be able to get through this crying, all righty well, 168 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Jesus, could you imagine? I couldn't. It's horrible. 169 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: It's just She went to live with her paternal grandparents 170 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: after being discharged, with my hopes that a complete change 171 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: of scenery would bring a positive change for her. It 172 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: was one of the hardest decisions I've had to make, 173 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: knowing that it would probably create a rift between us, 174 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: which it has. She has high functioning autism and had 175 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: been struggling with depression and anxiety since she was around 176 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: nine years old. She is now seventeen. When things started 177 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: getting really difficult a few years back, I was faced 178 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: with having to give up my beloved career as a 179 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: healer and meditation teacher and instead focus on keeping my 180 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: daughter alive. After years of trying every possible therapy, medication, 181 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: nutrition both western and Eastern, and her having to be 182 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: hospitalized many times. As a single mom, I had run 183 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: out of options. The chaos that her meltdowns brought on 184 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: a daily basis is becoming evident in my two other 185 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: two children's well being and had wrecked havoc on my health. 186 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: Something needed to change. She's doing well now, although she 187 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: refuses to speak to me, which I'm okay with if 188 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: that's the cost of her being okay. Listening to your 189 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: show has been like a treat I give myself when 190 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: faced with some task I am struggling to get through. 191 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: I put on one of your shows, and the world 192 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: is light and bright again. And doing something hard like 193 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: packing my daughter's belongings and in trusting her grandparents to 194 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: carry the torch isn't so hard. In one of your 195 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: email episodes, you read a letter from a woman who 196 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: wrote in about her sister who struggles with mental illness 197 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: and how hard it is to have that relationship be strained. 198 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: Hearing that letter help me finally cry and grieve for 199 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: the first time in a very long time. Oliver, I 200 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: wanted to mention to you that my youngest Ariel also 201 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: struggled with reading just like your daughter. In fact, she 202 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: could not read until the third grade, despite our trying 203 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: every reading program out there. She's super smart and had 204 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: already created like five different kid businesses by the time 205 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: she was ten. She just couldn't get the reading part. 206 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: But then one day something clicked and that was it. 207 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: She became a reader. Mm hmm. She's in the eighth 208 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: grade now, and she can hardly remember what it was 209 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: like when she couldn't read. I'm confident that with the 210 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: help from school, this woman is so nice. I okay, 211 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: but you know, I just got it through this. Yeah, 212 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: it's just okay. She's in eighth grade now and she 213 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: can hardly remember what it was like when she couldn't read. 214 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: Confident that, with the help from school and your love 215 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: and encouragement, your daughter will be plowing through books in 216 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: no time. I just wanted to thank you both for 217 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: being so transparent and real and fun. When I listen 218 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: to your podcast, it's like I'm spending time with kindred Spirits. 219 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: It's funny, Kate, our sons even share the name writer. 220 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for all that you do to bring joy 221 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: to so many with your kindness and laughter. Hugs to 222 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: you both. Christine gosh, I just I am. I just 223 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, when your kids struggle, it's just 224 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: like I can't I couldn't imagine what that must feel like. 225 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: And like she said, you know, you all she wants 226 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: is for her to be okay. And if that means 227 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: that right now they have this, it's a crazy, crazy 228 00:14:55,040 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: sacrifice to make. I mean, essentially your sacrificing the relationship 229 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: with your child for their well being. And and and you know, 230 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: hopefully there will be recognition of that. You know, once 231 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: once things settle down, and hopefully they do, and you know, 232 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: once this kid comes to terms with what's been going on, 233 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: there'll be a moment of thank of thankfulness. You know, 234 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: it's like, wow, I can't believe what you did for me, 235 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: but I can understand. I mean, the moment that that 236 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: kid is probably just like what the fuck? I mean, 237 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: I just I just think you're doing I just think, 238 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: you know, I've seen this in other children, and I've 239 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: known people who've had kids that were young and teenagers 240 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: that are their brains are just don't allow them to 241 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: feel good, to feel like they belong, and it's just 242 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: it's like there's nothing you can do. And I've seen 243 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: parents struggle when they love them so much, they do 244 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: everything they can and I'm and you just wish you 245 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: could take that away from your babies. You know. It's 246 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: like you want them to feel good in their skin 247 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: and there and that you want there, you want them 248 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: to feel happiness. Well, mom, Mom said this to me 249 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: a long time ago, which I just always it's rings 250 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: so true for me that you're only as happy as 251 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: your most unhappy kid, you know, and uh and and 252 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: and when you sort of relate it to something like this, 253 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: the strength that has to sort of that that she 254 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: has to find, it's unbelievable just to be happy. I 255 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: don't when when one of my kids is even just 256 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: sort of not feeling great or maybe a little bit down, 257 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: I feel everything that they're feeling. I know. And I 258 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: know Christine, you know, she she knows this. Like she's 259 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: not alone. There are so many parents who are trying 260 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: to help their children and when they're suffering, and it's 261 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: just you know, there's if you know, I mean, look, 262 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 1: it's like I'm glad we can give you that a 263 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: respite or make you feel some joy and some some light, 264 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: but also know that you know, hearing your story is 265 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: HiT's hits, hits hard and thank you yea, and thank 266 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: you for giving me the rio tip. You know she 267 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: if you're listening to this Christine, she has she it's 268 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: crazy you said that because she did turn this small 269 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: corner you know where all of a sudden, you know 270 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: what it is. It's these sight words and we've been 271 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: doing these sight words thing with her where it's like 272 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: you know about and that and could and should where 273 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: she now she can see them and boom, now she's flying. 274 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: She's getting it good. So it's exciting. And you know what, again, 275 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: it's like she'll read. She'll be able to read what. 276 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: We don't need to push them to read and do 277 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: math and algebra by the first grade. It's like they're 278 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: going to be able to do it in their own time. 279 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: Let's not take let's take some pressure off of it. Anyway. 280 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: Thank you for seeing circars, sir Oliver. You know this 281 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: is once again I love it. There is a new 282 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: thing they're doing. I saw it on my sponsored ads 283 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: on Instagram nice and it made me very excited. So 284 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: it got me like in the mood to say, you 285 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: know what, I should do a Sacara reset. 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We're tapping the rock once again. We love 311 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: a good cold brew. As a matter of fact, I 312 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 1: had one the other night, Yes I did. I cracked 313 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: open an actual corse Light now, an actual, not a 314 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: fake one. I love a cocktail and every once in 315 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 1: a while for me, having a really cold beer is 316 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: just completely where it's at. So cores Light, We're Colorado peeps. Yes, 317 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm a cores Light golf course guy drinking my cores 318 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: Light on the golf course. I take you about two 319 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: or three of them. I put him in the cooler, 320 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: watch the mountains turn blue, and then just get my 321 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: get my core on. You know, it's one of those things, 322 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: like cors Light's whole thing is sometimes you just need 323 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: to chill out. I mean it's not sometimes a lot 324 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 1: of times we need to chill out. Hit that reset button. 325 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: Everything's go, go, go go, go go, go, go, go go, 326 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: And there's nothing better than just taking a moment, having 327 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: a beer, checking in with your friends. Mm hmm, Well, 328 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: well guess what you're in luck, Kate, because Core's Light 329 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: is actually made to chill. All right, that's actually their slogan. 330 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: It's made to chill, So you're in Luck. The mountains, 331 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: on the bottles and in the cans they turn blue 332 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: when your beer is cold. It's literally made to chill. 333 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: You always know when it's time to chill. I'm gonna 334 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: say chill again because it's a good word. Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. 335 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: Core's light is the one that we choose when we 336 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: need to unwind, isn't that right, sis? So when you 337 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: want to hit that reset button, reach for the beer 338 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: that's made to chill. Get Cores Light in the new look, 339 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: delivered straight to your door with drizzly or instatcart celibate 340 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: responsibly Cors Brewing Company, Golden Colorado. So greetings, fairly new 341 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: listener to your podcast and became quickly obsessed. Love you both. 342 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: I just finished listening to the episode with Jason and 343 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: Tyler Ritter. I do a great deal of laughing and 344 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: smiling through your interviews, and this wasn't so different. That 345 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: is until I came to Jason's analogy of losing his 346 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: father to a book. Oh I loved this. There are 347 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: no more chapters. The book is complete. Listening to him 348 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: talk through that analogy was profoundly impactful for me. I 349 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: lost my twenty eight year old son to suicide four 350 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: and a half years ago and have a huge piece 351 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: of my soul grieving over the things that will never 352 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: be for him. But listening to Jason really opened my 353 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: heart to the possibility of my son's life being just 354 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: like like that. His book has been written. It's done. 355 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: Focus on reading the book over and over and be 356 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: grateful for all the chapters that made up his life. 357 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: Thank you for doing what you do and having guests 358 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: with so many different experiences to share with your audience. 359 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: As Martha Stewart says, it's a good thing. Regards Sherry, 360 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: I can't take it. I know it's but this is 361 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: what's great about sharing your story, not only the ritters, 362 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: but you know, even the people who are listening to you. Sherry, 363 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: who just you know in the short email shared your 364 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: loss of your twenty eight years old old son to suicide. 365 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 1: This is what's this is what's great about this is 366 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: everyone has a story to tell and you're never alone. 367 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean the relatability that can happen and the lessons 368 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: that you can learn. And by the way, I am 369 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: with you when Jason and said that that was amazing. 370 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: That was a totally different way to look at things 371 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: and was almost mind blowing in a way. You know, Yeah, 372 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: it does sort of allow you to see it in 373 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: a different way, sort of like, oh, you know, because 374 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: you do have to live, and when you carry that 375 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: sort of open ended you know what Jason was saying, 376 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: it's sort of like you're always the expectation that it 377 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: was supposed to be a different story, you know, and 378 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: yet the story is just what the story is. It's 379 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: like what our therapist would say, which is like, you know, 380 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: you're not dealing with the what is, You're dealing with 381 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: the expectation everything else. You gotta just it just is 382 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: what it is. You just can't help but think, you know, 383 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: when someone goes too soon or someone passes or whatever, 384 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: it is like, god, damn it, what would have happened? 385 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: What could have they been or what was their future? 386 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: But that's projection, you know. I mean that the book 387 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: is ended, that's the last chapter. You know, the thing 388 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: is for me, it's like, I just this depression. It's 389 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: just I know, it's I don't know. I wish we could. 390 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: I wish we could really really I mean, I know 391 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: we're getting better at understanding it, but I wish we 392 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: could treat it better. I wish we knew how to 393 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: treat people's brains in a way that they could feel hope. 394 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: I just it's again, and then it goes back down 395 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: to like, you know, you look at the world we're 396 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: living in, and you look at all the cruelty and 397 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: all of the like, you know, there's just so many assholes. 398 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: And I we you know, everybody laughs at people who 399 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: are like, no, we should really be nice to each other. 400 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: It's like, we really need to be nice to each other. 401 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: Like you know the four agreements, right, the fourth or 402 00:25:54,359 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: the fourth be impeccable with your word because words matter, 403 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: They affect and they create energy and they they they 404 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: it matters how we speak not only to ourch other, 405 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: to each other, but about ourselves. It's something that we're 406 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: really struggling with as as as a as a global society. Look, Kate, 407 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: I'll fucking try to do better, all right. I mean, 408 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: I just I just want people to feel good. That's all. Okay, 409 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: moving on, all right, you go, Sherry, thank you for 410 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 1: sharing that. All right? Ready, Hi, Kate and Oliver. As 411 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: I'm listening to the latest Email episode, I figured it 412 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: was my time to reach out and let you guys 413 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: know how much I genuinely enjoy this podcast. I've always 414 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: been such huge fans of your family. Did a biography 415 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: project on Kate in middle school. Oh my god, that's 416 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 1: so funny. That's so that's that's like I'm like, I 417 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: like feel more honored about anything. And to hear you 418 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: guys interact is so refreshing. I catch myself laughing out 419 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: loud alone in the car, especially when you both break 420 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: out and singing. Even your ads are so much more 421 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: enjoyable to listen to than any other podcasts. You hear 422 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: that ad people. I have two brothers, two step siblings, 423 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 1: and a half brother who I love so dearly. But 424 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: this podcast and all the interviews really has inspired me 425 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: to repair the strained relationship with my mom. For the 426 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: first time in many years, I feel like I have 427 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: a real connection to her, and it has been such 428 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: a huge relief of my anxiety. I could go on 429 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: and on about my family issues, couldn't we all, But 430 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that you guys really do 431 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: touch lives of the people that listen to you, and 432 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: it extends even beyond sibling relationships. So thank you for 433 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: this joyful podcast and your realness and openness, openness. Let 434 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: me know if you ever decide to interview regular people. 435 00:27:55,040 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: Scarlet woo oh, I love it. We're all regular people 436 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: for me because I'm kind of bad. I love that 437 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: and reconnecting with mom. I couldn't imagine what that must 438 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: feel like as a woman. And you know what's funny. 439 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not funny, it's real. The female the 440 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: mother daughter relationship is very complicated. It's a really complex relationship. 441 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: So I know a lot. I have a lot of 442 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: friends who have hard relationships with their moms. It's like 443 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: one of those things for me that I'm so focused on, 444 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: like I'm not going, I'm only I can't create that 445 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: for Ronnie. I'm just gonna let her fly, like you 446 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: know what I mean, you just gotta let I just 447 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: want her to feel love. I want her to be 448 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: your own being and her own force. And I know, 449 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: but but might you start off with those intentions, but 450 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: then shit goes crazy. I'm saying, like, you never know, 451 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,719 Speaker 1: like those intentions you start out, then all of a sudden, 452 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: Ronnie's on a poll at Crazy Girls. It's sixteen, and 453 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: you're like, get off the fucking poll, Ronnie Canny, Go 454 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: she's in Hollywood, Go get her, you know, I mean, 455 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: you just never It's Oliver, you never know say that Ronnie, Ronnie, 456 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: I don't. She won't be on the she's too goofy. Yeah, yeah, 457 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: I don't think she's too real, real, real, my daughter, 458 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: it will be on the pole. I mean, you know, well, 459 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: I love being on the poll. Let's let's be honest. 460 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: You have a poll. I have a pull my bathroom 461 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: your by the way, I believe that as factor. Sheila 462 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: she's got. Actually, she has a great documentary out right 463 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: now on Netflix about what she does, which is all 464 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: about women connecting to this energy that for somehow has 465 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: been exploited and you know, kind of made for like 466 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: you know, men, or to be you know, to be exploited. 467 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: But actually the importance of feeling your body in like 468 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: that in that real sensual place and what it does 469 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: for women, it's amazing. Okay, okay, okay, article. You know 470 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: what's so fun? Yesterday I was sitting in bed at 471 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: night and I was flipping through Pinterest, which is my 472 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: favorite thing to do, and I hit on products similar 473 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, view products, and there was a chair from 474 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: article that came up. It was like a kind of 475 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: a wicker style chair and I have to have it. 476 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: And let me tell you something, it is affordable. It 477 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 1: was about one hundred and fifty box or something. I 478 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: love this chair and I can't wait to go and 479 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: buy it. And then then I saw all these little 480 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: side tables. 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Don't forget. 507 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to read this out one oh you did. Okay, 508 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: Alison erased it. You guys, Alison, our producer erased us 509 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: the last satur She's like, I can't let Kate cry again. 510 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: She's like, sad, so we don't need to do this. Okay, Hi, 511 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: Kate and Oliver. My name is Amy, and I love 512 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: your podcast. I laugh all the time, and at times 513 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: your podcast brings me to tears. I was adopted as 514 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: a baby. Oh boy, here we go, we go. I crying. 515 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm like Paula Abdul, I'm American idols all the time. Okay. 516 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: My adopted father passed away when I was four years old, 517 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: and my adopted mom raised me as a single parent. 518 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: She was beyond amazing and loved me with all of 519 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: her heart. I had four older siblings that were already 520 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: out of the house when I was growing up. I 521 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: got along with two out of the four. My mom 522 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: passed away in two thousand and nine, and the two 523 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: brothers that I was closest to helped me get through 524 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: my grief two years ago. They both passed away within 525 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: six months of each other. I wasn't close to the 526 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: other two siblings, and I felt so lost. Listening to 527 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: your podcast reminds me of the relationships that I had 528 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: with my two brothers, and it makes me smile. I 529 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: recently got on twenty three and meters to see if 530 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: I had any blood relatives. I found cousins who live 531 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: in the same city and we've connected and it's been 532 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: so magical and special. They don't take the place of 533 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: my two brothers, but the connection feels the same. I 534 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: can't help but think that my mom and brothers had 535 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: something to do with that introduction. My family looks different 536 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,479 Speaker 1: and feels different for every person. Thank you so much 537 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: for showing up for us every week and being authentic 538 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: and open and honest. Amy. It's happy. It is happy. 539 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 1: It is It's so happy. But you know, I'm crying 540 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: happy tears because it shows that how resilient, you know. 541 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: It's like you go from like the fragil of this 542 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: sort of like what we're talking about hopelessness too. We 543 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: have the capacity to be resilient. It's in there. And 544 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: and I guess I just cry because I love people 545 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: so much, you know, No, I know, and you're crying 546 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: because I mean Amy, like you know, lost her dad, 547 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: then her mom, then two brothers within six months. It's 548 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: like the fuck it's my God. When it rains, it 549 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: pours like really. But also it also says, like you know, 550 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: I say this all the time, like the missing piece 551 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: to wellness is faith. And I know people like want 552 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: to separate that because religion or whatever, but honestly, you know, 553 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: I look at faith should be a part of everybody's wellness, 554 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: however you find it. It brings us this sort of 555 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: sense of feeling safe, like the fact that she can 556 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: really connect and know that deep down that her mom 557 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: and her brothers had something to do with it. That 558 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: belief that faith is bringing her so much, and it's 559 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: so important. It's so important that we connect to something 560 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 1: bigger than us and that we know we're all interconnected, 561 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, whether that's through prayer, whether that's through a 562 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: god or multiple gods or nature, whatever it is. It's like, 563 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: I got to start meditating again. It's so hard to 564 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: fucking do. It's so easy and so hard. I put 565 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: it off so much. Why don't you just pray? Why 566 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: don't you just start praying? What do you mean praying? Like, 567 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like to pray. I'm not a prayer. Well, 568 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: maybe you should try it. I don't whom I pray, 569 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: what am I praying to? Or you know, the only 570 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: the only person I talk the only people I talk to, 571 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: talk to, pray to, like, yeah, pray to Grandma and 572 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: pray to whoever. Well, I don't pray, I'll talk to 573 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: I'll be like Graham, like keep me safe. Oh well 574 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: that's a prayer. That's a prayer. Yeah, thank you, Amy, Hi, Kate, 575 00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: and Oliver. Greetings from Indiana. I've all been a runner. Therefore, 576 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: I steered away from podcasts for the longest time. Running 577 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: was my time to escape. However, I recently came across 578 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: sibling revelry and really enjoyed it. Keep up the good work. 579 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: I am twenty four weeks pregnant. It's my first pregnancy 580 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: for my husband and me. While while we are ecstatic, 581 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,959 Speaker 1: it has been tough. Don't get me wrong, I'm very 582 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: fortunate and grateful compared to others really struggling. However, I'm 583 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: dealing with migraines and nausea. I even had a short 584 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 1: hospital stint for dehydration weeks ago. Running is currently harder 585 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: for me because of these things. During my pregnancy, so 586 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: I started to walk. Your podcast is something I listened 587 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: to as I exercise. It's become that escape for me 588 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: from the world as I also deal with the anxiety. 589 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: A lot of that anxiety is stemmed from my first 590 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: pregnancy during a pandemic. I'd appreciate any tips you have 591 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: to relax as well. Though my story isn't a heartbreaking one, 592 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: I want you to know you help me with my 593 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: struggles every week as a way to get away from 594 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 1: the news of the pandemic for some relaxation. I'm sure 595 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: it's difficult to post every week. Just know your listeners 596 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: look forward to each episode and appreciate and appreciate it 597 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: in our own little ways. I hope. I'm going to 598 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: let you answer. I hope you are both safe and healthy. 599 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: I wish you the best for twenty twenty one. By 600 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: the way, I'm the baby of my family two other siblings. 601 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: Are you able to tell by my email how I 602 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: will continue to tune in even as I start to 603 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: run again. Betsy, I'm going to let you answer this 604 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: because you have firsthand experience with these things. But I 605 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: just just reading these emails. It's it's so great because 606 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: you realize that people are really listening. I know that's 607 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: sort of crazy. To say. But the stupid shit that 608 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: I feel like I say or that we do, actually 609 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: resonates with some people. And it's surprised you're not giving 610 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: it filling. It's really fulfilling, you know. I mean, oh god, 611 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: it's it just feels good. It feels good if we're 612 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: gonna get out there and talk about anything. It's important 613 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: to me that we're talking about things that could make 614 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,919 Speaker 1: people hopefully feel good or connect. And yeah, like we're 615 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: stupid and we sing and we do all the stuff, 616 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: but at the same time, we're really curious and we 617 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: we like to find out about you know, what makes 618 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: people tick and what makes people happy and where they 619 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: come from and share those things with others. I mean, 620 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: we can I can I change something because no one 621 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: says this. What if we changed it to like what 622 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: makes people instead of tick? What makes people talk? You 623 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like everyone because TikTok, It's like 624 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: there's a the tick is the first part. But you 625 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: can't have the tick without the talk, you know what 626 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: I mean? Right? Right, Maybe get on TikTok and then 627 00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: you find you'll find out. Okay, let's let's get back 628 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: to Betsy. Why don't we answer this question because she 629 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: did ask a question. She she just was asking for 630 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: some advice, you know, about anxiety. It stemmed from her 631 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: first pregnancy with this pandemic going on, and he tips 632 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: on how to relax. And I'm sure you could. You 633 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: could help her out with this since you've had three children, 634 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 1: Have I ever? Okay, So here's what I would say 635 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: about relaxing while pregnant. I it took me, I have 636 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: had I have very different pregnancies, so you know, your 637 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 1: state of mind is is they say it's a choice, 638 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: but when you're pregnant, it doesn't feel that way. It 639 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: feels like it's like your hormones kind of rule the day, 640 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: and at least for me. And obviously there's like this 641 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: is just my experience, and I always hate when people 642 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: offer their because pregnancies are so different, like, sure, but 643 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: this is you, this is your personal experience. For me, 644 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: with my pregnancy with Ronnie, I made a very clear 645 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: decision to just relax, meaning like I wasn't going to 646 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: over exert myself. I wasn't going to pretend like I 647 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: was going to do a million things when I really 648 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: just needed to put my feet up. I took care 649 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: of myself, and I made it about Ronnie. And what 650 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: I mean by that is is that I kind of 651 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: envisioned myself as the you know, we're we are we 652 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: are just this vessel. And I was similar with Rider. 653 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: Funny enough, with Being it was a very different pregnancy, 654 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: but but I just it's like I just kept imagining 655 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: being a vessel for life, so much so that it 656 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: was the first time of all my pregnancies that I thought, 657 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: isn't it weird that there's like a human inside of me? 658 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: Like I I didn't think that with Rider, I didn't 659 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: think that would being, But with Ronnie, I was like, 660 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: it's like a person. It's like there's like a being 661 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: in here. It's so alien and crazy because I was 662 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: so connected to her more than even what my needs were. 663 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 1: It was all about in my mind, it was like, 664 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: whatever I'm feeling is what's in her best interest, is 665 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: what she needs? And and so I was able to 666 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 1: kind of tune in and listen to myself I think 667 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: a little bit more. It was just a little bit 668 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: more heightened because I made it. I made a point 669 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: to do it, and and and it was also the 670 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 1: first time I did yoga. I did I did pre 671 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 1: uh natal or I did what do you call it, 672 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:50,879 Speaker 1: pre natal yoga? Yeah, pre natal in yoga. I did 673 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:58,240 Speaker 1: yoga pregnant and I and I and it was really 674 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 1: amazing because I would have these very connected experiences. I 675 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: listened to my body. If my body didn't want to 676 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 1: be strong that day it was, I would be really 677 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: like mellow. And then after each class, i'd sort of 678 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: just like tune in to Ronnie. I just I just 679 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: did everything I could to chill out. If my feet 680 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 1: felt thing, I put my feet up and I used 681 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: the excuse of I am pregnant and I'm not doing 682 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: anything I don't want to be doing. So that is 683 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: the And then there's like some specific things, yes, like yoga, 684 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: I would get body pillows, so I had a big 685 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: body pillow. I would get certain kinds of essential oils 686 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: that actually made me feel relaxed that weren't labor inducing. 687 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: I had these amazing sort of weighted there's sort of 688 00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 1: these weighted pouches, almost like eye pouches. You can put 689 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: them on your eyes, but they're meant to put be 690 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,439 Speaker 1: put on different points on your body, and they can 691 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: they relax your central nervous system, so maybe you could 692 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: look into something like that. Anything that relaxes your your 693 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: nervous system is great. And I'll say one thing. I'll 694 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: say one thing. You know, this is just from the 695 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: anxiety standpoint, because I've experienced anxiety, and I still do 696 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: on one and again, but I've had major anxiety. There 697 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: are things you can and can't control, right, So the 698 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: things that you cannot control sometimes we sometimes we we 699 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 1: we focus too much on those things and it causes 700 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: us some consternation and anxiety. We should focus on what 701 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,839 Speaker 1: we can control. The pandemic. There's not much we can 702 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: do about it except be safe. So as long as 703 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: we're being safe and we're living our lives, I think 704 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 1: it's it's sometimes it's easy to it's it's easier just 705 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: to let go of certain things. It's like what Kate says, 706 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, we're in control, we make choices. I would 707 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: just say to let go, Ollie. I think that was 708 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 1: great advice. I don't can we cut that anyway? Thank you? All? Right? Well, 709 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: these were really really great emails this time, and very emotional, 710 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,479 Speaker 1: and thank you guys for reaching out, and please keep 711 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: reaching out. We love hearing from you. It's so nice 712 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: to really honestly get to know our listeners. And I 713 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: think that I think it was it. Stephanie. You say, 714 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: let me know if you ever decide to interview regular people. 715 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,919 Speaker 1: And one of the things Oliver and I were thinking 716 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: about doing at some point was taking it on the road. 717 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 1: And actually we do want to interview people that aren't 718 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:02,359 Speaker 1: necessarily famous, but but we want to get out get 719 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: more personal with you guys. That's right, So that would 720 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: be great. So that's something we want to do. And 721 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: so so anybody who's emailed in, we will let you 722 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: know when when that day comes when we are doing 723 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: live shows, and then maybe Allie and I will we'll 724 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: do a little song and dance. Oh, we've got a 725 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: whole plan. Yeah. Of course we can bring on Hanson 726 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: to do some puppeteering. Yeah, I love it. Be sure 727 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,439 Speaker 1: to email us because we love hearing from you at 728 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: Sibling Submissions at gmail dot com. Sibling Submissions at gmail 729 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: dot com. Hit us up, hit us up. We need 730 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:55,320 Speaker 1: all your stories, all right. 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