WEBVTT - HR1: Live from Training Camp 2026 Day 6

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<v Speaker 2>Good afternoon, Steeler Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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<v Speaker 2>Audio Network. What Shouler and Matt Williamson with you here

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<v Speaker 2>for the next three hours on this Tuesday, as another

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<v Speaker 2>day of practice. The practice overall these second in pads

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<v Speaker 2>is in the books. And Matt, it was a hot

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<v Speaker 2>one today. It's hot out there right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it seems to be getting warmer, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I didn't think when I came in watching

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<v Speaker 3>practice it was scorching, but starting to heat up, starting

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<v Speaker 3>to feel I'm not ready called the dog days or

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<v Speaker 3>anything of that nature, but it is. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 3>into this thing now and it's a padded practice, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's no longer we haven't seen much. I can't you

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<v Speaker 3>know before you know what this thing's will be over.

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<v Speaker 3>We're near in the halfway mark.

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<v Speaker 2>We absolutely are. It happens very fast, and not just

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<v Speaker 2>the pace of the Mike McCarthy practices that are very fast,

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<v Speaker 2>but certainly these three weeks that just always seemed to

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<v Speaker 2>fly by. And it was another frantic practice today, high paced. Yeah, today,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot going on, Matt, and I'd figure we'll start theirs.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably what we'll do now that we're into again

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<v Speaker 2>more more substantial and lengthier practices. One hundred and ten

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<v Speaker 2>minute practice today, so just a little under two hours

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of ground covered.

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<v Speaker 3>I found out last night doing the Night Show with

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry that that's an NFL rule. Yes, So it goes

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<v Speaker 3>from acclimation to like yeah, yeah, to one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>ten and then I think they can go up. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how many hundred and tens are allowed. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>if you go over, it's a violation or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then I think at some point it can

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<v Speaker 2>be like one hundred and thirty minutes or something you

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<v Speaker 2>can get to.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure what happened for that two hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I'm there in this thing. Yeah, but there's different

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<v Speaker 3>phases more than just pads and no pads.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, yes, absolutely, absolutely everything is collectively bargained nowadays,

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<v Speaker 2>it seems in the structures and the time allotment in

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<v Speaker 2>practice is certainly no different, Matt. I had a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of observations for you, in fact, three specific players that

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to talk to you about.

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<v Speaker 4>All that's a good place to start that I.

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<v Speaker 2>Thought really stood out today and have started to overall

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<v Speaker 2>carve out good camps for themselves. Let's start first, we start.

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<v Speaker 4>To that point, we'd be like, well, he's having a

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<v Speaker 4>good camp, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you know, six practices in. It's starting to become

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<v Speaker 2>a trend, right, and one trend that I'm really liking, Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know all of our listeners will like this,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know it warms your heart. But the first

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<v Speaker 2>round pick, he's the first one I want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about here, mad Maxie Honacher looks the part. He already

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<v Speaker 2>he there hasn't seemingly been any rookie moments, not only

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<v Speaker 2>just in stature and watching him out there move around

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<v Speaker 2>as he look the part, but we've the last two

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<v Speaker 2>days seen him do a lot of one on one

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<v Speaker 2>pass rush stuff with everyone you know, from TJ. Watt

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<v Speaker 2>to Herbig and everyone in between, and man, not only

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<v Speaker 2>has he holding his own, he's really standing out as

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who might be one of their best offensive

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<v Speaker 2>linemen already or at least real soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and this is gonna sound loftier than it should,

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<v Speaker 3>but just bear with me for a second. That because

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<v Speaker 3>something that I repeated before I ever saw him any

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<v Speaker 3>Steeler helmet or pads or mini camp or any of

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<v Speaker 3>those things too. And everyone knows we were really high

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<v Speaker 3>on this guy pre draft. But it's Greg Cosell and

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<v Speaker 3>or I forget who else. It might have been Dane.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 3>There's two two of the analysts that I really like

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<v Speaker 3>that that you know or super draft oriented, and they

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<v Speaker 3>both said the same thing about Max and they said, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>he's not this guy and maybe he'll never be like

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<v Speaker 3>this guy.

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<v Speaker 4>And we know he doesn't played a.

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<v Speaker 3>Ton of football in his career, but he looks like

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<v Speaker 3>one of those elite and I don't use that word

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<v Speaker 3>very often, elite offensive tackles like a Walter Jones.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean. I mean like Hall of

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<v Speaker 4>Fame type guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Just the way he holds his body, the way he moves,

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<v Speaker 3>what he was gifted with.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, from the womb, the stuff you can't coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and obviously he's worked on his feet and you

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<v Speaker 3>know his size and strength and stuff too, and come

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<v Speaker 3>out of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Wom looking like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But he has the traits, I guess is the way

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<v Speaker 3>that the elite guys have. Now that's great. JaMarcus Russell

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<v Speaker 3>had elite traits, right. It's a wonderful start, don't get

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<v Speaker 3>me wrong. But just these last two days, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to overreact to two days, they've done those

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<v Speaker 3>one on one line drills, which I think are the

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<v Speaker 3>highlight of these practices. Thus far, we've not seen backs

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<v Speaker 3>on backers.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's a full go. He's looked.

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<v Speaker 3>He's lived up to that, you know, just in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of quickness off the ball, knee bend, ankle flexion, to

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<v Speaker 3>be a real nerd, strength, stature, ability to redirect after

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<v Speaker 3>he's you know, maybe beaten, on the first move quickness.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's.

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<v Speaker 3>Faced several different players and today is no exception. And

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<v Speaker 3>does he win every rep. No, But I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 3>a true weakness in his game. You even see him

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<v Speaker 3>lose like clear, you know, Sawyer often tries to go

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<v Speaker 3>right through them. What yesterday tried to bull rush him

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<v Speaker 3>right up the middle. None of that was, None of

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<v Speaker 3>that's worked at all on him. He just squats down, sits,

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<v Speaker 3>absorbs it, and then starts dishing out punishment with his

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<v Speaker 3>hands and starts to manhandle him when he's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>got got him in the middle of his frame. Guys

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<v Speaker 3>that are beating him with technique like what I saw

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<v Speaker 3>it once and then not again. Yep, her big with

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<v Speaker 3>his speed and explosion and bend. Okay, he kind of

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<v Speaker 3>pushed him up the arc on a rep, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was high up the arc.

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<v Speaker 4>And he was realized, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you could tell that was a different type

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<v Speaker 3>of challenge for him. Let's just say he looks the part, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>And I couldn't be more excited.

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<v Speaker 4>This is what I had hoped.

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<v Speaker 3>And semi envisioned whenever we did a million mock drafts

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<v Speaker 3>before he was ever a Pittsburgh Steeler, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>they may go down in a week draft class and

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<v Speaker 3>look at this and be like, how did that guy

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<v Speaker 3>fall that twenty one first roun Yeah, I mean with

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<v Speaker 3>the trades premium position in premium trade.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm with you. He's he's been very impressive. I

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunately yesterday I shared this with everybody, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you knew it. I was a little late to practice

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday because my youngest daughter and we just had some

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<v Speaker 2>stuff going on at home and you know, needed needed

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<v Speaker 2>to wait, so kids happened, you know, you know things

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<v Speaker 2>things happened when you have kids, and had to wait for,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for some reinforcements to get there before I

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<v Speaker 2>could leave the house. So I missed that portion of

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<v Speaker 2>practice yesterday. The defensive lineman did one on ones, but

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<v Speaker 2>you would kind of painted the picture for me and

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<v Speaker 2>for our audience about how impressive Max was at his

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<v Speaker 2>first go round for that. So today I was all, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>all ready to go, and all all eyes were on

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<v Speaker 2>that drill for the for you know, the ten or

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<v Speaker 2>twelve minutes that that was going on. There was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of other and you know, just in general, all

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<v Speaker 2>those guys on the offensive line or I think very

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<v Speaker 2>intriguing stories for their own reason, but especially Mad Max.

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<v Speaker 2>Wanted to get my first real look at him in

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<v Speaker 2>a contact, one on one situation and it did not

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<v Speaker 2>disappoint man. He looks the part, and I think the

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<v Speaker 2>Steelers might have an absolute stud on their hands. And

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<v Speaker 2>in Big Mad Max.

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<v Speaker 3>They did some team stuff as well, where he'd come

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<v Speaker 3>off the ball in the run game.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't disappoint there either.

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<v Speaker 3>And these aren't you know, low down the line guys

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<v Speaker 3>playing again, I mean it's DJ Watt often, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because Max is going to rotate at this point with

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<v Speaker 3>Cook at the right tackle position if people aren't aware

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<v Speaker 3>of how that's going. But I mentioned the labs while

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<v Speaker 3>we were watching this too. I'm like, sure, seems like

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<v Speaker 3>Cook's getting more and more snaps on the left side.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he in the process of becoming the swing tackle,

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<v Speaker 3>which very well could be the case. Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if Max knows's assignments. He's never been in the stadium.

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<v Speaker 3>As coach used to say, you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, seventy thousand people screaming right.

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<v Speaker 4>Lights and right.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that doesn't mean that you can go to

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<v Speaker 3>Baltimore and trust him and all those things.

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<v Speaker 4>But I gotta think they have.

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<v Speaker 3>To be considering just say Cook, you're the three and

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<v Speaker 3>go from there or Broderick or whatever. But I mean

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<v Speaker 3>they may have a pair of bookends that rivals like

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<v Speaker 3>the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that would be a good position to find

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<v Speaker 2>yourself in. So that was the first guy specifically that

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to talk about. Let's stay on the offense

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<v Speaker 2>because two of them are offensive players, ones on the

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<v Speaker 2>defensive side of the ball, So we'll stay on the

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<v Speaker 2>offense here. The other is Darnell Washington. Yeah, Mount Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>who Matt. I want to be very careful when I

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<v Speaker 2>say this, because it's not like he's walking around here

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<v Speaker 2>and noticeably dropped a bunch of weight, But he does

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<v Speaker 2>look like he's trimmed down just a little slightly, and man,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, man, he's moving fluidly and getting out in routes.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, not that he lost a ton of weight,

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<v Speaker 2>not that he is like noticeably thin or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he's not two forty, yeah, exactly right, exactly right,

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<v Speaker 2>But he just looks a little more trim and a

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<v Speaker 2>little more mobile, little more fluid out there, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>looked he's looked really good running around, maybe a little

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<v Speaker 2>extra burst to his game and and wow, I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to just be a weapon and punish some

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<v Speaker 2>people this season.

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<v Speaker 3>So Brian Backo was just sitting there with us for

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen minutes or whatever, and we kind of had this

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<v Speaker 3>conversation while practice was going on. And to Brian's you know, credit,

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<v Speaker 3>you kind of believe some of these things with a

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<v Speaker 3>grain of salt, And he was the same way, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, I guess he asked Washington, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>you weigh and he's like, it doesn't tell you the

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<v Speaker 3>numbers and all those things too. But also Washington said

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<v Speaker 3>something along the lines of, more than any off season,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been really working on my conditioning, which smells a

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<v Speaker 3>lot like best Shape your life cliche, you know, right right,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's what players his age.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll buy it, though, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I mean Rob's every practice I've watched with Rob,

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<v Speaker 3>he says it over and over. He's like, he looks

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<v Speaker 3>different to me. He looks skinnier, and just focusing on him,

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<v Speaker 3>his waiste in particular seems trimmer, you know, like he looks.

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<v Speaker 4>More ripped.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean again, you know, like he's it probably got

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of the the baby weight off him,

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit, some of the softness, and he never

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<v Speaker 3>had like a gut or anything. He's just an enormous

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<v Speaker 3>human being. But you could just see that he's a

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<v Speaker 3>little more tapered. He's a little leaper. That's that's the

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<v Speaker 3>word I was looking for for the last minute or two.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're right, I think he moves better. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he's never going to be fast by by tight ends.

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<v Speaker 2>We're never going to call him twitchy.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but there was times where his feet would stick

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<v Speaker 3>in the g for a while. Bronosaurus steps on the

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<v Speaker 3>end and takes a second to get going. Now he

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<v Speaker 3>seems to open it up quicker, and we've all seen

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<v Speaker 3>him open it up. His top speed is okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he's again, he's offaly, just gonna run down

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<v Speaker 3>the scene, pass safeties all day long. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>he's moving in and out of his breaks a lot better,

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<v Speaker 3>seems to control his body a lot better. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was already impressed with those things for his size. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's one of my favorite players on the team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, No, he certainly is. I think anyone who's listened

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<v Speaker 2>to our show over the last couple of years. Knows

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<v Speaker 2>how fond you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're picking two of my favorites. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>I you know that the soft.

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<v Speaker 2>Ball I might have I might have been thinking that

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<v Speaker 2>on purpose or something around here. But yeah, he just

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<v Speaker 2>he he looks like a guy who is really ready

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<v Speaker 2>to take a big step forward in terms of his

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<v Speaker 2>pass catching and offensive contributions, not just in the run

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<v Speaker 2>game obviously, where we know that he excels, but that

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<v Speaker 2>tapered look has me thinking that he's, uh, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>cause some problems for some defenses this year for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So those are the two guys on the offensive side

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<v Speaker 2>of the ball that I thought, you know, really throughout

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<v Speaker 2>these six practices have stood out, but especially today.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then the last.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope they're like long term fixtures, ten year stealer

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<v Speaker 3>type guys. Way getting ahead of myself, but just got

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<v Speaker 3>a contract I first round pick a couple months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're set there at tight end in the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line for a long time with very high end

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<v Speaker 2>players and guys that are tough to play against, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to grow and learn and build together that

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<v Speaker 2>chemistry and camaraderie that's a real strength.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, those two mashing people on double team one yard,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, runs off tackle and things of that nature.

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<v Speaker 2>Have fun with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, good lord.

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<v Speaker 2>The last one man on the defensive side of the

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<v Speaker 2>ball is a newcomer. He's a veteran, but we're getting

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<v Speaker 2>our first look up and close at him. It's Jammel Dean.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh right.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like he is making plays in every

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<v Speaker 2>single drill, every single team period. He is. He's always

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<v Speaker 2>breaking up passes, he's always tightly contesting coverage. He's just again,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you get to this point in camp where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like they keep noticing that guy, keep noticing that guy.

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<v Speaker 4>That guy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like every every day Dean is flying around, getting

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<v Speaker 2>his hands on footballs, making plays.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, couldn't agree more. Don't have as much to add

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<v Speaker 3>on him. And I'll be honest, you know, from where

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<v Speaker 3>we sit in the press box, it's harder to watch defense,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's a lot of team stuff that happens right

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<v Speaker 3>in front of us. So early portions of practice, which

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<v Speaker 3>again they didn't do a ton of the first half

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<v Speaker 3>hour forty five minutes, they did a lot of indie

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that wasn't real applicable to scouting a player necessarily,

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<v Speaker 3>but he does get his hands on the ball. He

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<v Speaker 3>runs really really well. His size is obvious and he

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<v Speaker 3>plays big two, especially when the ball's in the air,

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<v Speaker 3>when he's banging with receivers at the line of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 3>I am curious to see what kind of player he

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<v Speaker 3>is on outside runs things like that, which probably won't

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<v Speaker 3>be till the regular season. He has a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a history, and I always like to warn people

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<v Speaker 3>on this because like if you look, if you pull

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<v Speaker 3>up his profile on NFL dot com or ESPN or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll be like, oh, he played fifteen out of seventeen games.

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<v Speaker 3>He has a habit of leaving, you know, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know why. Maybe it's just total coincidence. It's and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's like this, you know, moaning and

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<v Speaker 3>belly aching about it is. He's has There's been many

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<v Speaker 3>games that he has well, several games that he has

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<v Speaker 3>started but not finished. But I think if you get

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<v Speaker 3>the most out of this dude, you're gonna be really happy.

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<v Speaker 3>And even if he does happen to miss some time,

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<v Speaker 3>the depth of corner is really really good.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we're feeling very strong about that position group and

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<v Speaker 2>I think you've got a nice balance of guys at

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<v Speaker 2>different points throughout their careers. You know, good point Joey Porter,

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<v Speaker 2>Jude working on that second that second contract. You've had

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<v Speaker 2>guys like Ecoles and Samuel's who aren't crazy long in

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<v Speaker 2>the tooth but have certainly been around the league for

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<v Speaker 2>a while. You've got some young rookie like Daylon Everett.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got the savvy Vetts and Jamel Dean and Jalen Ramsey.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like.

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<v Speaker 4>Think they look to Ramsey in that room.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I would. I I think I really like the

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of balance.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Man, he really stood out last training camp.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy did he ever? He's uh, he's he's an alpha

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<v Speaker 2>out there, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>He plays hard and we'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Be we'll be excited to get him back in the fold,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully here sooner rather than later. But yeah, those were

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<v Speaker 2>the three Matt that, like I said, really over the

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<v Speaker 2>course of these six practices, but especially today, I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like those guys were standing out. And Yeah, just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>a few minutes to talk about how much fun you

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<v Speaker 2>and I really had watching watching mad Max and those

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<v Speaker 2>one on one drills.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, Yeah, impressive and I'm sure it won't all be

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<v Speaker 4>that way. Sure there'll be some days like I'll have

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<v Speaker 4>what he'll have rookie moments.

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<v Speaker 3>I no question about it. But I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>you can't be excited about him from what you've seen

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<v Speaker 3>or what you know about the player and the person

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you this earlier, but you know, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>it's the same way with you. We've all got our

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<v Speaker 2>group chats with our buddies and all that stuff every

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<v Speaker 2>single day out here so far to this point. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>my friends are always like, Wes, what's going on? Wes who?

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<v Speaker 2>Looks good? Wes who? And I'm like, guys, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>day number two. Like, yeah, yeah, they're they're in They're

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<v Speaker 2>in helmets and shorts playing Patty Cake out here. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's calm down.

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<v Speaker 4>It's awesome that people were excited.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, But today I texted him and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, all right, boys, it's it's time for the

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<v Speaker 2>first real uh, you know, Wes observation for you. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, mad, Max is gonna be an absolute

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<v Speaker 2>stud and I think he's gonna end up being one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best right tackles in the National Football League

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<v Speaker 2>here potentially in the next couple of years. If he is,

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<v Speaker 2>If this is the starting point for him, then the

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<v Speaker 2>sky is the limit. Without let's get to our first

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<v Speaker 2>break here of the show this afternoon. We will catch

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<v Speaker 2>up with our buddy Alan Saunders of Steelers now here

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<v Speaker 2>in the first hour of the show. Plenty to get

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<v Speaker 2>to as we roll along on another busy day. You

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<v Speaker 2>also know, to start the five o'clock hour, we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>hitting the tweets, So get those tweets in at wes

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<v Speaker 2>Leeler at Williamson, NFL if you want to get involved.

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<v Speaker 2>We met a couple of our loyal tweeters last night, Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of people came up to us and said hello,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, it was It was a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 2>and it's been It's been good to uh to get

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<v Speaker 2>to to put some faces to some of these some

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<v Speaker 2>Back on campus here for this day number six, a

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<v Speaker 2>With you, Matt, we have some we have some I

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<v Speaker 2>guess extension news around the NFL from today, A couple

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<v Speaker 2>couple of big pieces of business being done here with

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<v Speaker 2>some of the names that we've been discussing throughout the

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the offseason. According to Adam Schefter in ESPN. The

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<v Speaker 2>Falcons and Bijon Robinson have reached a three year deal

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<v Speaker 2>up to seventy five million guaranteed to make him the

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<v Speaker 2>highest paid running back in NFL history. That includes fifty

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<v Speaker 2>one million guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 3>I had no problem with it at all. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's an easy one. I mean, you can have the

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<v Speaker 3>argument back and forth, do you really want to invest

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<v Speaker 3>big money in that position? Fine, but if you draft

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<v Speaker 3>him where you do and he does what he did,

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta do this. I mean, I think he's the

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<v Speaker 3>best running back in the league. I think he's one

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<v Speaker 3>of the absolute best players in the league. Let me

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<v Speaker 3>say he's the most valuable. But the size speed combination,

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<v Speaker 3>as well as all the other trades you have, which are.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of historic.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where I'm going with this, because you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I've started Matt stats and the Falcons are

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<v Speaker 3>the first first opponent here. So I just pulled these

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<v Speaker 3>things up for a different podcast I did. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he's only one of three players including Ladanian Tomlinson, that

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<v Speaker 3>in their first three years has the combination of thirty

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<v Speaker 3>five hundred rushing yards and fifteen hundred receiving yards. He

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<v Speaker 3>led the entire league in all purpose yards last year.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean McCaffrey was the only running back with more

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<v Speaker 3>receiving yards. Sure, I mean I think he had like

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<v Speaker 3>the twelfth most yards from scrimmage in NFL history last year,

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<v Speaker 3>played almost eighty percent of the snaps. I mean, since

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<v Speaker 3>he's been in the league again only three years, only

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<v Speaker 3>Barkley and Derrick Henry have more rushing yards. Right, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean this is like a historic start of your career.

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<v Speaker 2>Impressive really? Yes, in his three seasons, eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>five carries for over thirty nine hundred yards.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's well over that thirty five hundred I was

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<v Speaker 4>talking about, right.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred and ninety eight catches for over seventeen hundred yards,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty four total touchdowns in three years, two time Pro Bowler,

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<v Speaker 2>first team All Pro this past season.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and again he may not even be hitting his prime.

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<v Speaker 3>He's almost the consensus first overall first top two picks.

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<v Speaker 4>In him and fantasy draft. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean some people might be like, why like that

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<v Speaker 3>the Lions have an easier schedule and they have a

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<v Speaker 3>better offense, But they're the top two, and you can

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<v Speaker 3>split hairs, which one you prefer but he could have

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<v Speaker 3>a Tomlinson Lake career. Like I'm older than you and

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<v Speaker 3>played fantasy. Then it was like, whoever gets on one

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<v Speaker 3>wants getting with Damian Thomlinson.

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<v Speaker 2>What's God? Go ahead and punch that in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that's a no brain or twenty touchdown

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<v Speaker 3>seasons and things like that could be in the horizon

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<v Speaker 3>for Pjon.

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<v Speaker 2>Another big extension announced today, and it's one in the

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<v Speaker 2>AFC North Baltimore's two time Pro Bowl wide receivers Say

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<v Speaker 2>Flowers reaching agreement with the racist that one four year,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and forty million dollar extension matt one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eight million dollars guaranteed. That now ties in with

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Jefferson as the fourth highest paid wide receiver in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL. Just JSN, Jamar Chase, and Drake London make more. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a good player. But that might be great money

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<v Speaker 2>for a good player.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm a big fan. I think he's vastly underrated.

0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:29.080
<v Speaker 3>You know, like if I was doing just receiver ranks,

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<v Speaker 3>not fantasy, he would be very high. He would not

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<v Speaker 3>be fourth. But I mean that implies to me just

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<v Speaker 3>how healthy the league is. Sure, you know they have

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of money to throw around collectively these thirty

0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:43.520
<v Speaker 3>two teams. Now, he's not as big as your prototype.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't score a lot of touchdowns. You have his

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<v Speaker 3>career touchdown receptions. I bet it's pretty low. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>not even close who their most valuable receiver is in Baltimore.

0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:57.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the the rest of that wide receiver room

0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:01.879
<v Speaker 3>isn't very inspiring. Andrews is a good player still, but

0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:06.399
<v Speaker 3>he's hitting the age cliff in a big way. Henry

0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:09.400
<v Speaker 3>doesn't catch balls. They drafted two receivers, they drafted two

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<v Speaker 3>tight ends. I mean, like he's going to be their

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<v Speaker 3>target leader by far.

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<v Speaker 2>He's had five touchdowns, four touchdowns and five touchdowns in yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so just fourteen touchdowns in three seasons.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they look at Andrews and likely in some

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<v Speaker 3>of their bigger bodies there more so, that's like the

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<v Speaker 3>one chink in the armor. And it also correlates with

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<v Speaker 3>not being the biggest, most physical guy in the league too.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's dangerous. He's a really good player.

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<v Speaker 2>He absolutely is, and he's being paid very adequately certainly,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm sure they'll be happy to keep him in Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, Lamar Jackson will be happy to have

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<v Speaker 2>him around.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple other I think notable part of me pieces

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<v Speaker 2>of business from today. Jadavian Clowney, big name Matt of course,

0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:53.960
<v Speaker 2>he signed with the Houston Texans officially earlier this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>And you remember it was ten twelve years ago or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>They drafted him first overall, so he kind of goes home.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw some quotes that he said he could have

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<v Speaker 3>gotten more money out of somewhere else, but he wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to be part of this.

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<v Speaker 4>Which how could you not.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he won't be a starting defensive end for them,

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:12.439
<v Speaker 3>that's for sure with Hunter and Anderson there, but he

0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:14.680
<v Speaker 3>can also kick inside a little bit. He's a really

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<v Speaker 3>good run player. He's still frustrating to watch. His recognition

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:23.159
<v Speaker 3>skills have never been great, but he's quite talented. Been

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<v Speaker 3>a mercenary probably the last five or six years, you know,

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:29.480
<v Speaker 3>one year here, one year there, but kind of gives

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<v Speaker 3>teams what they want, you know this time of year.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, late signing. Didn't get the defensive end we

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<v Speaker 3>wanted in the draft, or in Houston's case, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's just we'll take the embarrassment of riches here. We're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna try to really make a run. I think they

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<v Speaker 3>would be my vote for best best defense in the league. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>including I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean it's hard to argue that. Yeah, I think they

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<v Speaker 2>You just look at it. There's not a weakness anywhere. No,

0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 2>they've got speed everywhere. They've got the physicality and toughness everywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got the edge rushers, they've got the the defensive backs.

0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:03.000
<v Speaker 2>They're adding some depth.

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<v Speaker 3>At a big nose tackle in the middle too, to

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of make free everybody up a little bit more.

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:11.680
<v Speaker 2>In the first round that had defenses impressive. Impressive certainly,

0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:16.280
<v Speaker 2>and then Matt, uh that basically I think covers the

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:19.959
<v Speaker 2>majority of the of the business today in the National

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Football League. A couple of big contracts, a couple other

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:26.879
<v Speaker 2>you know, additional signings and things like that around the league.

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<v Speaker 2>We do know as well too, Matt. You know, we

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:31.199
<v Speaker 2>always laugh. We get so jacked up and excited for

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:33.640
<v Speaker 2>the Hall of Fame game, which is of course Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday night. I'll tell you this though.

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<v Speaker 4>It'll be on the Sharkis and we'll pay some attention, and.

0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Sure will, I think we'll pay even more attention now

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:42.679
<v Speaker 2>because the two starting quarterbacks have been named.

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:44.840
<v Speaker 4>I know pickets going is Kenny.

0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:47.399
<v Speaker 2>Pickett for Carolina Carson Beck for Arizona.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm interested to watch back. Yeah, both those guys

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 3>are noteworthy, lit right right right?

0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:55.120
<v Speaker 2>Little something stuff in there, so names that everybody knows

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.400
<v Speaker 2>and certainly noteworthy to watch. Hey, they might only play

0:24:57.400 --> 0:24:59.639
<v Speaker 2>five or six snaps, but it'll be some type of

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<v Speaker 2>football in front of us on Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 3>I did a Carolina breakdown today for our six Pack show.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize their quarterback depth chart is Bryce Young

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<v Speaker 3>Picket and basically.

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing else really. I mean, it's that things could get

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<v Speaker 4>off the rails there.

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<v Speaker 5>Cool.

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<v Speaker 4>They've already been hit really hard with injuries.

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say they have been. Their offensive line

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<v Speaker 2>is the not the type of start to the year

0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:22.160
<v Speaker 2>you want. The health department, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they have the worst mojo in the league

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<v Speaker 3>right now, just in terms of bad things happening to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Panthers speaking of injuries, seems like nothing too serious. But

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Glenn, the head coach of the Jets just saw

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:38.440
<v Speaker 2>this year, told reporters after practice that their rookie tight

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 2>end Kenyon Sadik, suffered a little setback on the off

0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 2>season hernia surgery he had. He will now miss some time,

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<v Speaker 2>but still hopeful that he'll be ready for the regular season.

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:49.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you never won first round picks and miss

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:53.159
<v Speaker 3>any time. They're dating to acclamate the other injury I

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:55.879
<v Speaker 3>heard today that isn't super serious, but they're starting to

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:59.200
<v Speaker 3>mount for the Niners because Pearce All's out for the year. Yep,

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 3>Mike Evans got banged up again. They I mean, that

0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:06.840
<v Speaker 3>receiver room's crazy because they they they're not counting on

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Ayuk at all. Obviously, I think he's still there.

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.200
<v Speaker 2>They probably should, but that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Never going to happen again. But think about who they

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:19.639
<v Speaker 3>brought in. They brought in Evans, Christian Kirk, Deebo Samuel,

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 3>and they traded out of the first round of the

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 3>very early second for stribbling. Yeah, I mean that's for

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 3>brand name dudes, Like I don't think Kirk has a

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 3>ton less and Debo is just a one year deal.

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 3>But you don't do those things if you're not concerned

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:37.160
<v Speaker 3>about your wide receiver situation, then Pierce All they can't

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:39.680
<v Speaker 3>count on he's out for the Year's not in the mix,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>They've just got a lot of older bodies too.

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can all those guys playing seventeen games and

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<v Speaker 2>healthy for the whole season.

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 4>And the other guys are pretty raw rookie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's yeah. Maybe they could be in for another

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 2>one of those.

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 4>Kittle's coming back from an injury injury either.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that could be one of those. It certainly does.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like San Francisco has a lot of times

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<v Speaker 2>done a really good year. They'll win twelve games, and

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 2>then the next year they'll come back and they'll lose

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<v Speaker 2>twelve games, and then the following year they'll win twelve

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 2>and then they'll lose twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they're definitely pushing their chips in, but I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know it's working out well at least here in early August.

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 2>That's a tough division to certainly to be pushing chips

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<v Speaker 2>in for Matt.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's say, ye go to break. We've got a guest

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<v Speaker 4>coming up, we sure do.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna talk to our buddy, Allan Saunders of Steelers

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<v Speaker 2>now when we return here in just a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Top. Chucknofield here rolling along on in the drive

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<v Speaker 2>and joining us now. It's our buddy, Allan Saunders of

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<v Speaker 2>Steelers now one of our favorites to catch up with

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<v Speaker 2>here during training camp and the combine and all that

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<v Speaker 2>fun stuff. Alan, thanks for taking the time, Thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>joining us, and uh what has been this really new

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 2>training camp experience for a lot of us, right, I

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 2>said to Matt at the beginning of camp last week,

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like if you ever change schools when you

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 2>were growing up, you still knew you were gonna have

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 2>math class and there was gonna be lunch and you're

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna have a locker. Right, you knew what school was

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 2>all about, but it was going too the new school,

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<v Speaker 2>meeting new people, new coaching staff, new teachers, that kind

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 2>of thing. Different practice time, different practice pace to this point.

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<v Speaker 2>But now on day six, you're starting to feel like

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 2>you might have a little bit of a handle on it.

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 2>And what's uh, what Mike McCarthy's trying to accomplish out

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 2>here every day.

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<v Speaker 6>I still feel like I'm learning a lot every day.

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<v Speaker 6>I think there's a lot to learn. I don't think

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<v Speaker 6>I still don't feel like I know enough about this

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<v Speaker 6>football team right now.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, you get you get so used to the

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 6>way things are, the way people will react to certain things.

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<v Speaker 5>When you have my job, you.

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 6>Get pretty good at predicting, Hey, this happens, so this

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 6>is gonna happen. And now I don't feel like I

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 6>know that, you know, when you're coming up as a journalist,

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 6>you usually like move from beat to beat pretty quickly,

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 6>or you kind of get that like new team feel

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 6>where you It's been a while for me. I've been

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 6>covering the Steelers since twenty nineteen. I haven't gone through

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 6>that quite some times. So it's it's been different and

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 6>exciting and fun in some ways and difficult in other ways.

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<v Speaker 6>It's really hard to answer questions like people ask them,

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<v Speaker 6>what do you think of the team?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, I don't know. I don't know what to

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 5>think of the team in a lot of ways.

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 3>So I think you've a really good scouting eye, and

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<v Speaker 3>I want to bring up a lot of individual names

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 3>of what you've see in these six practices. But I

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 3>know you just put out a piece concerning Aaron Rodgers

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 3>and how his teammates look up to respect, like enjoy him.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you kind of reiterate some of the things you've

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 3>dug up, you know? And I think this has been

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 3>common for every stop he's been at.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't really know. I mean, obviously I wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>in New York and Green Bay, but it seemed like

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 6>there was a lot of fear when he came to Pittsburgh,

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 6>that he was going to be this toxic teammate or

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 6>a bad guy and boy like he has been exactly

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:54.479
<v Speaker 6>the opposite of that. He's poured himself into young people.

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 6>He's been a great teammate to his his peers, He's

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 6>been great to the people that are around the building.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, the guy's one of the richest athletes

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 6>to ever live. He could big time all the big

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 6>timers if he wanted to, and that would be fine.

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 5>And I think.

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 6>He's really built strong relationships. And I think the sort

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 6>of reaction this week to the comments he made on

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 6>the Pad McAfee show externally, you know, very divisive in

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 6>the public sphere. Locker room loves the guy, and I

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 6>think that's such a rare thing in our society today,

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<v Speaker 6>where we find people that are able to sort of

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 6>come together despite differences. I think it's what makes sports special.

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<v Speaker 6>It's one of the things I've always really admired about

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<v Speaker 6>being in the locker room and being around these guys

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 6>that they're able to do that, and I think it's

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 6>what's cool about sports. And I thought it really came

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<v Speaker 6>in to focus this week with you know, I'm getting

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 6>hate for just writing what Aaron Rodgers said. I didn't

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 6>say this, I just wrote, but he said. I know

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 6>he's getting a lot more hate than that. But his

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 6>teammates love him, and I'm sure some of his teammates

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 6>disagree with them, and yet there's still that love in

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 6>that bond that I think is really special.

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 4>And we're allowed to disagree.

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of Matt. Matt always says this, there's

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot of different personalities in that locker room. Absolutely,

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 2>you think Aaron Rodgers is the only one that's an

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>enigma and has his quirks, You're you're far from a

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 2>far from politics.

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 4>You might yet agree with Chances are he's not the

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 4>only one.

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 6>Sure, Sure, and and just hugely different. Look at the

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 6>offensive line. Everybody talks about how tight this offensive line is,

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 6>and it is. And you got a Polynesian from Las Vegas,

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 6>the guy from the hills of West Virginia, Ben Anderson,

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 6>grew up in the suburbs of Washington, d C. Like,

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 6>you can't get more different backgrounds than what those guys

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 6>had before they came to Pittsburgh. And yet they're all

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 6>best of friends. And I think that's why I think

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 6>that's why we love sports.

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 5>And I felt like I wanted to shout that out.

0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 6>I want to a lot of a lot of hate

0:32:58.160 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 6>mail I was getting.

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 4>Oh, well said, so when can people find that article?

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the top of the site Steelers now dot com.

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 6>It's out right now and go check it out.

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 2>Some good stuff in there from Pat Fryermouth. Oh yeah,

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 2>as well. I know I might step on Matt's toes here.

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 2>But one of the guys that we obviously speaking of guys,

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 2>speaking of guys with different backgrounds and unique stories, the

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 2>first round pick pick, Maxie Honacher. I think we were

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 2>all really waiting to see these past two days when

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 2>the pads went on and you know, physicality was introduced there,

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 2>especially with all those bodies in the trenches on both

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 2>sides of the ball that we want to get a

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 2>look at. I feel like he's held his own really well,

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 2>not just held his own, but has stood out in

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of those one on one drills.

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you worry, is the moment going to be big

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 6>for a young guy?

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 5>Not at all.

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 6>I mean I was super impressed with his makeup in

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 6>those moments. Even the reps he lost were super competitive.

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 6>He really made guys work to beat him. I have

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 6>a Theorymount I want to run this by you. I

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 6>think if you are a young offensive lineman who has

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 6>outstanding footwork and maybe some other issues, and AX has

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 6>some other issues, I think that might be the one

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 6>the strength you want to have in terms of who

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:08.799
<v Speaker 6>I agree getting the trust to get an opportunity early.

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:10.840
<v Speaker 4>Because then you can recover when you screw up.

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 6>Right right, He's gonna lose in slow motions sometimes and

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:17.319
<v Speaker 6>there's still losses, but it's not look out.

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 4>It's not like the broaderick problem.

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:21.399
<v Speaker 3>For me, it's like when he lost, he lost bad,

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:23.760
<v Speaker 3>and he lost early. You know that that you can't

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 3>have losing slows fine, And if his feet are enough

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 3>to lose slow while he learns, I'm in.

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 6>I think that's really what's what sort of took me

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 6>from the watching him in one on one is that

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 6>even though losses are not that bad, and that's I

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 6>want to see more run blocking out of him.

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 5>I don't. I haven't seen enough of that.

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 6>And that can be something that it only takes one

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:48.400
<v Speaker 6>guy to screw up a run play and you can't

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.879
<v Speaker 6>be that guy over and over again. But I've been

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 6>really impressed with what I've seen him from him so.

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Far, so I wanted to switch to the wide receiver

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:56.439
<v Speaker 3>room a little bit. There's been a lot of Roman

0:34:56.480 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 3>Wilson buzz I like how Bernard another rookie looks out here,

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.800
<v Speaker 3>but I haven't seen a ton of plays being made yet.

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Metcalf seems to be still featured, and Pittman looks what

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 3>I expected, but he hasn't had a wow moment that

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 3>I remember. What do you think of the non Metcalf

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 3>next three so far?

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 6>I think the thing that stands out to me about

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 6>Pittman is he's getting open. You know, a lot of

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 6>training camp is first read stuff. I don't know how

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:25.919
<v Speaker 6>much of the time Michael Pittman is the first read

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 6>in this offense, but I think he's very frequently the

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 6>the get out of jail free card for the quarterback

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:35.760
<v Speaker 6>where something got screwed up. Let's let's get four yards

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 6>right here. And you're not gonna do that in training

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 6>camp very often, but that can be really valuable over

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 6>the course of the season. I also thought he had

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 6>a really nice block today to spring dk On on

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 6>a little out and up and he got some some

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 6>green grass there's some real weapons in terms of run

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 6>after the catch there. If you've got good blocking wide receivers,

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 6>that helps that a lot.

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:56.760
<v Speaker 5>I agree think Jeremy.

0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:58.760
<v Speaker 4>Collectively, they're pretty good blockers to the receivers.

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 6>Jeremy's been quiet, but he's very impressive. He doesn't do

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 6>anything wrong. He doesn't make mistakes that you see from

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:10.240
<v Speaker 6>a rookie. I think I've only seen him drop one pass,

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 6>which happened right after I wrote that. He hadn't dropped

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 6>any way the way it usually goes. But you know,

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 6>I just don't see those those reps where you know,

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 6>the ball hits the ground and the quarterback standing there

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 6>with his hands up, like what were you doing? That

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 6>you usually expect from a rookie wide receiver. I haven't

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 6>seen very much of that at all.

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:31.359
<v Speaker 4>What are your thoughts on Roman two?

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 6>He's been so much better. Yeah, he looks so locked in,

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 6>more confident coming in and out of his break. Really

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 6>looks like he understands what his job is and what

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 6>he's supposed to be doing and what it looks like

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 6>at a different level.

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 5>He's always had good hands. I don't think that's ever

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 5>been an issue. He's tough, he goes into tight windows.

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 6>I'm not saying he's going to be a superstar, but

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:59.760
<v Speaker 6>I think he looks poised to be a much bigger

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 6>day diference maker this year than last year.

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean a couple months ago, I thought he was

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:05.359
<v Speaker 3>a borderline roster player. I agree, and I think he's

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:06.879
<v Speaker 3>way beyond that now.

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, I think Bernard. I'm really high on

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:13.359
<v Speaker 6>Bernard big picture, but Roman's done everything he could do

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 6>to hold him off so far.

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 2>A few more minutes here with our buddy Allen Saunders

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:20.280
<v Speaker 2>of Steelers now wanted to ask you about Darnell Washington

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 2>as well, kind of sticking with some pass catchers in

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 2>the offense here, Matt and I were looking for the

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:27.879
<v Speaker 2>right word to describe him, and I think Matt might

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 2>have nailed it. He kind of looks tapered a little bit.

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say that he looks slim or

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 2>like he lost a bunch of weight, but he looks

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 2>a little.

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:36.240
<v Speaker 4>Body looks a little different.

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 2>His body looks a little different, and he just he

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:40.760
<v Speaker 2>looks like he's a little more fluid, little more movement.

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I think he is is primed for a potential big

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 2>year in this offense.

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I really like how he's moving. I care a

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 6>lot more about that than how much he weighs. Yeah,

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:51.759
<v Speaker 6>I don't care exactly right, Yeah, I really don't. And

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 6>he's moving really well, really nice, like turn up field

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 6>acceleration on a couple plays, which is what you need

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 6>from him, because boy, once you get that going and

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 6>you're in the secondary, there are not a lot of

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 6>DB's that are gonna bring him down one on one.

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:11.360
<v Speaker 6>It's just a tough ask. And I you know, I

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 6>think the size of their receivers across the board can

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 6>be a real weapon for him. He's obviously just a freak.

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 6>But there's other I mean, Pittman and Metcalf and Farmoot's

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 6>big Wilson and Bernard are not bigger, but they're tough guys.

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:29.760
<v Speaker 6>Like there's not an easy tackle of anybody. And forget

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 6>Warren and Dowdall, we didn't talk about them yet. Those

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 6>guys are really really difficult guys to tackle. There's not

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 6>an easy tackle of any Steelers receiver. They're really gonna

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 6>make secondaries tackle and I think that's how you get

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.360
<v Speaker 6>big plays. Is one of those big dudes puts a

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 6>stiff arm into somebody and all of a sudden, it's

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:48.360
<v Speaker 6>green grass.

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 3>So I haven't seen them tip their hand on this yet.

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I just missed it. But do you expect a

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 3>package with her Big, high Smith and Watt on the

0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 3>field together.

0:38:57.360 --> 0:38:58.319
<v Speaker 4>I do, I do too.

0:38:58.440 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 5>I do I expect it.

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 6>And I bet Herbig to be the guy that is

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 6>not in a traditional outside linebacker stance. And they were

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 6>doing the offensive line defensive line one on ones yesterday,

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:11.359
<v Speaker 6>Herbig took two reps from.

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:11.879
<v Speaker 5>The a gap.

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 4>I saw it from off the ball, and.

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, well, there's no reason for him to be

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:19.359
<v Speaker 6>doing that unless he's going to be doing that.

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:21.720
<v Speaker 4>I thought I saw Wat do it as well.

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 6>What did one where he kind of looped in against

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 6>a guard? And so I think there's to me that

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 6>makes the most sense because Herbig, to me, is the

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:37.279
<v Speaker 6>is the most valuable chess piece there in terms of

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 6>you could very easily give him man coverage assignments. You

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 6>can drop him off the ball. You know, he is

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:45.799
<v Speaker 6>a really really hard piece for the offense to look

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 6>at and figure out what he's going to be doing.

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:51.439
<v Speaker 6>And I know people are screaming about move water around, and.

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:53.439
<v Speaker 4>I don't care about that I don't.

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 6>That doesn't bother me as much as getting all three

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 6>guys on the field and finding a way to make

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 6>them all dangerous. Like I saw what was up he

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 6>was on the right side, was up against Still and

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 6>Cook yesterday try.

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 5>To spin move. It was.

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I think he still won the rep, but

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 6>it was very like I don't know where to put

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:12.960
<v Speaker 6>my legs looking kind of thing. Yeah, you're not, you know,

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 6>used to seeing TJ. Watt not, you know, look like

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:18.799
<v Speaker 6>he knows exactly what he's going to be doing out there,

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 6>and it's just he said it yesterday. It's one thing

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 6>to say, let's do this. It's another thing to be

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:26.759
<v Speaker 6>good at it. I don't know that they're good at

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:28.880
<v Speaker 6>these things yet, but I think they're gonna try.

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 4>Them real quick.

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't really care about him in Highsmith's alignment. If

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 3>you prefer the right and I prefer the left, let's

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:38.240
<v Speaker 3>stay there. But I do like the idea of dropping

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:41.440
<v Speaker 3>him in coverage. We've seen some of that, looping him inside.

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 3>Don't just rush him to the outside shoulder of the

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:46.000
<v Speaker 3>tackle over and over and over. And they know exactly

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:48.359
<v Speaker 3>how to chip them. So I think the usages could

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 3>be different, and I think it will be. I don't

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 3>care about the alignment though. Yeah, he doesn't need the

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 3>roam around on the second level or go to the

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 3>right side.

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:55.400
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the left right thing has never bothered me. If

0:40:57.640 --> 0:40:59.839
<v Speaker 6>you can align left right however you want, Yeah, use

0:40:59.880 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 6>them different ways. More more inside rushes for TJ. Get

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 6>some more quick pressures. I think that is the NFL

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:08.799
<v Speaker 6>trend to find ways to get those quick pressures, And

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:10.799
<v Speaker 6>a lot of that comes on the inside. If you're

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 6>going around the tackle, it's gonna even if you beat

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 6>them a lot of steps blind, it's gonna take a

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:17.320
<v Speaker 6>couple of steps, and I think you can have a

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:18.959
<v Speaker 6>much quicker impact coming up the middle.

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Maybe, you know, put her big to his outside and

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:23.400
<v Speaker 3>overload that side. Just make things so he doesn't have

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 3>to go through three guys all the time.

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Any any movement, Any updates on the contractual future

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:30.280
<v Speaker 2>of one Joey Porter Jr.

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 6>No, I haven't heard anything. Seems very quiet. You know,

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 6>we're getting to that time where he usually seems like

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 6>these things tend to get done.

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Coming close to the dog days, a couple weeks.

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:41.920
<v Speaker 5>Into training camp, so we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, no, update, and then do you expect that

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<v Speaker 2>we will see Jalen Ramsey at any point throughout this process?

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<v Speaker 5>I would expect that we ought to.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, what I was told is it's not a

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<v Speaker 6>significant injury and that he should be I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 6>been running off to his own, you know, with Joey

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<v Speaker 6>and Dante Kent over there, So you know, I would

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<v Speaker 6>think that at some point you're going to see him back.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if it's going to be before we

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<v Speaker 6>break camp here, but I would think that you're going

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<v Speaker 6>to get Jayalen Ramsey back for Week one at the

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<v Speaker 6>at the very worst.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you presume that when they have four defensive backs

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<v Speaker 3>on the field, Ramsey remain out there and Briskers the

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<v Speaker 3>odd man out just want to be able to see it?

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<v Speaker 5>Man, I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't either.

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<v Speaker 6>That's one of those that I don't think we've learned yet. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>you could probably make an argument for doing it either way,

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<v Speaker 6>and maybe it depends on who's out there for the

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<v Speaker 6>other team what you want to do. Yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 6>mean I thought Mata McCarthy was pretty forthright in admitting

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<v Speaker 6>that they don't really have a traditional free safety on

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<v Speaker 6>this roster and that there maybe the answer is none

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<v Speaker 6>of the above, and that there's some kind of external

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<v Speaker 6>addition between now and then.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of fun, a lot of ground to cover

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<v Speaker 2>with our buddy Alan Saunders. Make sure you're checking out

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<v Speaker 2>all of his coverage on Steelers Now throughout these next

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<v Speaker 2>couple weeks of training camp and into the preseason and

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<v Speaker 2>the regular season and all that good stuff. Great stuff, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for taking the time. We appreciate it absolutely, Thanks

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