WEBVTT - Patriots Catch-22 7/30: Key Observations Through Seven Days of Training Camp, Depth Chart Overview

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I look at it. Tr Trump Brown's about I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Trump Brown's so inconsistent, yea than thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>year old, more than Moses.

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<v Speaker 2>On when you and Mason, I'd probably give it to Mason.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Mason was a better player, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it was like World's better.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a massive gap.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not talking about like you know, Zach Martin here

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<v Speaker 2>like a good player, Jack Mason Center, definitely David Andrews

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<v Speaker 2>obviously left guard, Harris versus Strange. I probably give that one.

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<v Speaker 1>To Harris, maybe that Max's line is better, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I give I say Will Campbell, I say Campbell too,

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<v Speaker 1>But like that's so the one guy we're giving it

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<v Speaker 1>this year. But also so the weird thing with that

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<v Speaker 1>line was it took forever because that wasn't the line

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<v Speaker 1>from the start of the season two.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you're wondering why it's just me to kick

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<v Speaker 2>off the show today, it's because they're waiting on a

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<v Speaker 2>very popular Alex Barth, who just is needed everywhere producer

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<v Speaker 2>Alex these days. He's just he's so popular that we

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<v Speaker 2>have to wait on him, you know, to come down

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<v Speaker 2>here to do the show. He's got bigger fish to

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<v Speaker 2>fry over at the official flagship station of the New

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<v Speaker 2>England Patriots ninety five the sports Up. Alex will be

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<v Speaker 2>here in a second. He'll be along in a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe he's on with Felger and Mass wish him

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<v Speaker 2>well on that endeavor. So he's going to come down

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<v Speaker 2>here in just a second and he'll join me here.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was a good open for what I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about off the top of the show, because

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to go offensive line. You all knew I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to go offensive line. Let's face it, everybody

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<v Speaker 2>could probably see that coming from a mile away, because

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<v Speaker 2>you have to imagine as a guy that likes to

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<v Speaker 2>talk a lot about the offensive line and has had

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<v Speaker 2>a tough time watching the offensive line the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years around here. To have not one but two

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<v Speaker 2>rookies that are already pushing in the second week of

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<v Speaker 2>training camp for starting jobs. That's like me on Christmas More.

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<v Speaker 2>I got two rookie linemen that are doing this already.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is fantastic news for me, but also

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<v Speaker 2>for the Patriots most importantly, and I don't think it

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<v Speaker 2>should be undersold how big of a development. It is

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<v Speaker 2>that Will Campbell and Jared Wilson in the first week

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<v Speaker 2>of pads here have acclimated well, have looked a part,

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<v Speaker 2>have looked a part of left tackle of course for

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<v Speaker 2>Will Campbell, and we'll get to that here in a second.

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<v Speaker 2>But Jared Wilson, a third round pick, not coming out

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<v Speaker 2>of nowhere, I wouldn't say I think that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of us could have seen this coming. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>how quickly it would be for him because he only

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<v Speaker 2>had the one year of starting experience at Georgia and

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<v Speaker 2>he's only twenty two years old. But Jared Wilson rave

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<v Speaker 2>reviews for him, Rave reviews for his just knowledge of

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<v Speaker 2>the game and his technique and his athleticism, but how

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<v Speaker 2>quickly he's grasping things. So those are all great things

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<v Speaker 2>to hear for the Patriots offensive line, which we knew

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<v Speaker 2>was the biggest weakness on this team going into last offseason.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you drafted two guys that can start on

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<v Speaker 2>the line, that can upgrade this unit, you are in

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<v Speaker 2>much better shape than you were a year ago. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's the great news on the offensive line. We are

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<v Speaker 2>going to go position by a position today once Barth

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<v Speaker 2>eventually graces us with his presence, we will go position

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<v Speaker 2>by a position on the roster, and I'm told that

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<v Speaker 2>he's coming down right now from the ramps, so he

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<v Speaker 2>should be here within the next few minutes. On the roster,

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<v Speaker 2>just top storylines or not, we're gonna try to mention

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<v Speaker 2>as many players as we possibly can. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to promise that we're gonna mention all ninety one players

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<v Speaker 2>on the roster. I don't know if we'll quite get there,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're gonna try to mention just the high level

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<v Speaker 2>stories but also storylines, but also the little things because

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<v Speaker 2>you know that we pay attention to all the details

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<v Speaker 2>here on Patriots Catch twenty two. So my opening takes

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<v Speaker 2>on the offensive line, positive development there. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm gonna do is, I'm actually going to read

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<v Speaker 2>some emails. Maybe I'll take these calls while we wait

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<v Speaker 2>for Barth to, you know, wander on in here at

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<v Speaker 2>some point. But there's a lot of offensive line questions

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<v Speaker 2>right in the in the emails right now, so we'll

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<v Speaker 2>just give it a whirl. And the first one here

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<v Speaker 2>is from Jeff from LA and he said, given that

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen multiple seen multiple cold strange seasons, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>yet to demonstrate that he can pass Bock at a

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<v Speaker 2>legitimate NFL level. I tend to root for Wallace to

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<v Speaker 2>win that job. As Wallace demonstrated that he might have

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<v Speaker 2>a higher ceiling at left guard, this assumes Wilson has

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<v Speaker 2>the highest ceiling at center and those two rounds to

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<v Speaker 2>around out their best five. Okay, I got you, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's another development here on the offensive line. What

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<v Speaker 2>does this all mean for Cold Strange? With Jared Wilson

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<v Speaker 2>seeing first team reps at left guard, what does that

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<v Speaker 2>mean for Cold Stranger's future? Who is working with the

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<v Speaker 2>second unit today at center? First time we've seen cold

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<v Speaker 2>Strange center. Now, it should be mentioned that Garrett Bradbury

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<v Speaker 2>did not participate in today's practice after he got banged

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<v Speaker 2>up yesterday towards the end of practice.

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<v Speaker 3>Bradbury not out.

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<v Speaker 2>There today, So the Patriots moved Ben Brown to the

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<v Speaker 2>starting center position, and then Jared Wilson was out left

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<v Speaker 2>guard with Cold Strange.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh there he is.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, Look who it is? How did it go? How

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<v Speaker 3>did it? How did it? God? Did everything go okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Up there?

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<v Speaker 3>For you? Zoe didn't pick on you too much? Did he?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Me and are having a ton of fun. Me and

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do. I was on felburn, Mez, you

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<v Speaker 1>think after today, I'm not gonna go set the record

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<v Speaker 1>straight on Will Campbell.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we'll talk about that in the second. But

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<v Speaker 2>my opening take, and I know to your your point there,

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<v Speaker 2>I know Will Campbell had a little bit of an

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<v Speaker 2>up and down day today, but my opening is really

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<v Speaker 2>down and then up right, my opening take of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>As a guy that loves himself some offensive line play.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just so encouraged for this team and for the

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<v Speaker 2>offense that they might have drafted two starting caliber offensive lineman,

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<v Speaker 2>not just one. And for a group that last year

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<v Speaker 2>by every metric across the board pass blocking, run blocking

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<v Speaker 2>win rates PFF grades thirty second in the league, and

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<v Speaker 2>all of them on the offensive line. The fact that

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<v Speaker 2>they might have drafted two starters in the top one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and Jared Wilson and Will Campbell is a huge

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<v Speaker 2>development for the team.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I don't think I can undersell how big of

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<v Speaker 3>a deal that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is for where their offensive line was they needed it and.

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<v Speaker 2>Not on top of that, you know, if you assume

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<v Speaker 2>that Jared Wilson after today now, I know Bradberry wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>out there, but based off the movement that they had

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<v Speaker 2>without Bradberry, it seems like they're looking at from left

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<v Speaker 2>to right, Campbell, Wilson, Bradberry on when new Moses as

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<v Speaker 2>their best five right now with Bradberry at center and

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<v Speaker 2>Wilson at left guard. So that means that four out

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<v Speaker 2>of five starters on the offensive line will be new

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<v Speaker 2>and the only incumbent holdover is the best guy from

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<v Speaker 2>last year, Mike Gonuenu.

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<v Speaker 3>So that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>If you had the worst offensive line in football, you

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<v Speaker 2>should have four new starters the following year. And it

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<v Speaker 2>appears that the Patriots are going to potentially have four

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<v Speaker 2>new starters the following year, which is a great sign

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<v Speaker 2>to me in all avenues. I want to get into

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<v Speaker 2>like the minutia of all of that, but that was

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<v Speaker 2>my opening take. Do you have an opening take?

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<v Speaker 1>How long are you going before I came down here?

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<v Speaker 3>At the best, like seven minutes maybe?

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<v Speaker 1>So you started you started before two thirty No?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, yes you no, I did it. It's two

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<v Speaker 3>thirty nine and I started.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I will say people wanted to check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety five Sports on YouTube Patriot Felger was actually asking me,

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<v Speaker 1>like some insightful offensive line.

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<v Speaker 3>Questions, how many plugs are you going to do for you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying like it was a good you would

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<v Speaker 1>have enjoyed it. It was a good offensive line to Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what did he ask about? You know, the outside inside

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<v Speaker 1>move that's hard to counter. Just kind of some alignment

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<v Speaker 1>stuff moving between center and guard, things like that. Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson's a good opening take. I'll say this, on a

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<v Speaker 1>day where the offensive line was not at its best,

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<v Speaker 1>Drake may might have had his best day. Yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>is encouraging. He handled pressure very well. He talked earlier

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<v Speaker 1>in camp. I think it was like the first day

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<v Speaker 1>or two. He mentioned that one of his big focuses

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<v Speaker 1>this year is he wants to remain a passer longer.

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<v Speaker 1>When he scrambles, he doesn't just want touch the ball

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<v Speaker 1>and go. He wants to look to create downfield. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a few chances today. I thought when the pocket

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<v Speaker 1>was breaking down, whether it was one lineman losing or

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<v Speaker 1>just the thing kind of collapsing, to scramble, and it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have necessarily been the wrong decision, but it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have been the best decision, and instead he kept his

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<v Speaker 1>eyes downfield. The Kyle Williams touchdown was one of them

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<v Speaker 1>where the pocket kind of came in a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>reset his feet, boom downfield, forty yard touchdown. So the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing I liked about Drake May today there were

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of days at the start of camp where

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<v Speaker 1>it was Drake May. And this is an offense take,

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<v Speaker 1>not just Drake May. I guess you know, Drake Man,

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<v Speaker 1>the offense started rough, but bounce back. You know, started

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<v Speaker 1>slow but made up for it. And look, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to see him bounce back. That's good, that's obviously good,

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<v Speaker 1>but especially for a team that started slow at times

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<v Speaker 1>last year, you want to kind of see him start

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<v Speaker 1>straw right. Instead of Drake May having a bounce back day,

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<v Speaker 1>it was where is the day that we're just like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Drake May was good wired to wire? He was good.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Drake May was good wired to wire today.

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<v Speaker 1>That happens to be on the day where the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line gave him probably the least help they've given him

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<v Speaker 1>all summer.

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<v Speaker 2>So I like that take as well. I what I

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<v Speaker 2>am most encouraged about with Drake May right now is

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<v Speaker 2>his timing in structure within the offense.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't look like a guy that is learning a

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<v Speaker 3>new offer.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks very comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>He looks very comfortable, he looks confident in his reads.

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<v Speaker 2>He's making good decisions with the football. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to jinx some solid knock on some wood. He has

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<v Speaker 2>yet to throw an interception in this training camp. He

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<v Speaker 2>had one dropped like this second pass. But I's been great.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see him get lucky a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 2>he has yet to throw a true interception to the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that in camp. Yet I bring that

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<v Speaker 1>play up because again that was his what second third

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<v Speaker 1>throw camp? Yes, he really hasn't even put them. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know how many times he's been lucky since then, hasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Put I want to say that there's one for sure

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<v Speaker 2>that Jail Pepper has dropped like the first.

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<v Speaker 1>Day cap was like the second or third throw.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then there's maybe one other one that I

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<v Speaker 2>can remember off the top of my head where I

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<v Speaker 2>think Robert Splaine might have had two hands on one

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<v Speaker 2>that he it's a linebacker though, trying to make a

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<v Speaker 2>play on the ball. But I thought it was May

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe I'm this remembering it's starting to blend together

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, a little bit. I'd ask somebody would say the

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<v Speaker 1>week it was today.

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<v Speaker 2>At the same time, if I told you was worth

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<v Speaker 2>seven practices in now seven practices, that Drake May hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>thrown an interception yet in camp, you would ask, you'd

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<v Speaker 2>either be over the moon excited or the one like

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<v Speaker 2>negative Nancy take that you could have would be like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>is he throwing the ball down checking it down? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's checking it down, he's being conservative, YadA, YadA, YadA. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>today he threw a absolute dime to Kyle Williams for

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<v Speaker 2>about a forty yard touchdown on a go route down

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<v Speaker 2>the right sideline, like going away from the hill on

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots practice facility. That would have been pff markstacting

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<v Speaker 2>down as a big time throw instantly, right, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>real time.

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<v Speaker 3>Big time throw. He had one of those today.

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<v Speaker 2>He drove another one down the field to Stefan Diggs

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<v Speaker 2>today on a cross or that was another muddied pocket

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<v Speaker 2>like you were talking about, where I thought he was

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<v Speaker 2>stared down the barrel stood in there, made the throw.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's in a red jersey and he knows they're

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<v Speaker 2>not actually gonna hit him, but still he still stood

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<v Speaker 2>in there. There's a free runner right in his face

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<v Speaker 2>and he just drilled it right to Stefan Diggs. So

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<v Speaker 2>my point being is that I don't think he's being

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<v Speaker 2>ultra conservative. I do think there are moments where he's

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<v Speaker 2>pushing the ball down.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just that one day. Besides that, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>bitten fully at.

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<v Speaker 3>His disposal and he is he has looked on the hole.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the only thing you know, we go into

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to get into. I really I just love

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<v Speaker 2>the variabel, the good, the bad, and the in the

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<v Speaker 2>s that gets you bleep line.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we can't swear on here. That is a

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<v Speaker 3>I might be able.

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<v Speaker 1>I got adjusted, well, the coach said it, I got

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<v Speaker 1>adjust from from swearing.

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<v Speaker 2>Was fantastic, fantastic way of looking at a great line

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<v Speaker 2>from the head coach. The bad for Drake may has

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<v Speaker 2>been those occasional sprays that you'll see time and time,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, every time, every so often, try to

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<v Speaker 2>get those words out. Every so often you'll see you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he had one yesterday where he had Hunter Henry. It

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<v Speaker 2>looked like he had him in the corner of the

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<v Speaker 2>end zone for a touchdown and he sailed it.

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<v Speaker 3>He had one.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh you know, just on occasion, he'll have those. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's just to me, that's just the bad Like that's

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<v Speaker 2>not that doesn't get you beat. Like the turnovers get

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<v Speaker 2>you beat.

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<v Speaker 1>As long as you're not doing it on third down, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but the turnovers get your beat. Sure, Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the the strings of incompletions will get your beat. If

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<v Speaker 1>you can't move the ball at all, you're obviously going

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<v Speaker 1>to get beat. We're not seeing any of that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. We're seeing the occasional spray from Drake May,

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<v Speaker 1>which is customary of his skill set and his positives

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<v Speaker 1>and negatives as a player. We are also seeing, i

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<v Speaker 1>would say, from Drake, which I really like. We're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that involve his mobility, whether he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to have the option to run, whether they're moving

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket, the pob Douglas throw obviously with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>out of structure, off platform, those types of things. But

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<v Speaker 1>the main thing that I keep coming back to though,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've read some other reports, because this time of

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<v Speaker 1>year sometimes like all thirty one teams love their team

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<v Speaker 1>or all thirty two, I see other thirty one. Teams

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<v Speaker 1>love their team, right, everybody's going to win the Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl on July thirtieth. You know, the rookies look great,

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback looks great, the coaching staff looks great. If

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<v Speaker 1>you go read some of the things about some of

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<v Speaker 1>the other younger quarterbacks in the league that have changed

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<v Speaker 1>coaching staffs and have changed hands in terms of systems

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<v Speaker 1>and coordinated, a lot of those guys are going through

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<v Speaker 1>some growing paints of learning a new system. Like Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson was talking about Caleb Williams openly playing slower than

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<v Speaker 1>they would like mentally. It's been like kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>mess with that, right, Yeah, playing slower at the helm.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do that another time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't see that with Drake. I don't see

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<v Speaker 2>him playing slower. No, I don't see him having trouble

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<v Speaker 2>with processing or decision making or whatever the case may be.

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<v Speaker 1>No, what that's great. We saw it in the spring,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's okay because he was going to learn it right,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's it's a credit to him and the coaching

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<v Speaker 1>staff that they've they've gotten on the same page as

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<v Speaker 1>quickly as they have.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's encouraging.

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<v Speaker 2>I like what we're seeing out of the McDaniels, saying

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<v Speaker 2>after Vrabel made fun of friend Mike Giarready this morning

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<v Speaker 2>about talking about the plays of practice, I'll be a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit careful, but I like what we've seen from

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<v Speaker 2>McDaniels and what they're gonna do now. It looks similar

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<v Speaker 2>like it's the Josh McDaniels offense. Like they don't run

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<v Speaker 2>fool yourself. This is not a wholesale change of what

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing, you know, in terms of the offense or

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of the passing game in particular, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the drop back passing game is pretty much carbon copy

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<v Speaker 2>of what they used to do. But with that said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like we've talked about in the past, they

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<v Speaker 2>do have a mobile quarterback. Now they have a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that's a dual threat. We're seeing some movement pockets, We're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing some options with his legs that are involved in

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<v Speaker 2>him as a runner being involved, especially in some of

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<v Speaker 2>the red zone work that we see. So it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the old Josh daniels offense with like a sprinkle of

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<v Speaker 2>mobile quarterback right Like right, that's basically what we're going

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<v Speaker 2>for here, which I like, I think all this is positive,

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<v Speaker 2>it fits, It's all great. Now, that doesn't mean everything's great.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna get to some of those things that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel are not so great about what's happening. But

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<v Speaker 2>Drake May, Josh McDaniels, the two rookies on the offensive line,

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<v Speaker 2>I think these are all you have to come away

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<v Speaker 2>feeling positive about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you may have already touched on it just to

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<v Speaker 1>get on the same page as you With Jared Wilson, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he's starting left guard now, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Unless he does something to lose the job. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>see why do you think.

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<v Speaker 1>That's more because they think he's better at left guards

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<v Speaker 1>because of the two fumbled snaps early on.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a combination, I think, on one hand, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just that, right, we do this all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>like they might like Bradbury more than they're like Strange

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<v Speaker 2>it so.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's what I'm asking. Is this okay, Bradbury's

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<v Speaker 1>better than Strange or is it Wilson's better at guard

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<v Speaker 1>than center? So what do you think is more driving here?

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<v Speaker 2>The way that I look at it from Wilson's perspective

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<v Speaker 2>alone is that as a rookie, not only is the

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<v Speaker 2>center would be a rookie, a twenty two year old rookie.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, you would also have a twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>year old quarterback in his second season standing behind him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and in baseball they call what the battery, right, like

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<v Speaker 2>the catcher in the pitcher, like the battery of like

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<v Speaker 2>the center in the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is also called that in football.

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<v Speaker 2>Being both like under twenty three years old and both

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<v Speaker 2>first and second year players in the league, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to ask out of the gate for Jared

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<v Speaker 2>Wilson to be a starting center in the league with

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<v Speaker 2>really only one year of starting experience in college at

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<v Speaker 2>center at Georgia at his age, with a young quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>So having Bradbury in there at center to just be

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<v Speaker 2>a veteran voice and have that veteran experience, I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're probably thinking that's gonna help Drake a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so then here's my well, you do still have

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<v Speaker 1>the two rookies on the left side there, here's my

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<v Speaker 1>second part of that. Cole Strange would only played guard

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<v Speaker 1>in this camp to this point. Garrett Bradbury goes down,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the center. Okay, you don't want Jared Wilson at center.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Brown becomes the starting center, Cole Strange goes from

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<v Speaker 1>being the top guard to the backup center. Yes, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>do they do you think they don't trust Cole strangers center?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, haven't seen it, so it'd be hard to trust

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<v Speaker 2>him because they haven't seen him saw last year. They

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<v Speaker 2>saw it on tape last year, but they haven't. They

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen.

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<v Speaker 1>They having hands on yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and in their system.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just thought that was notable because I

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<v Speaker 1>remember I was talking to Fort Camp like, don't write

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<v Speaker 1>off Ben Brown. A lot of people wrote him off.

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<v Speaker 3>I am not writing off Ben Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not right off Ben, He's said yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pu that I'm not ruling out Jared Wilson and

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<v Speaker 2>Brenton Brown as your center depth chart.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not ruling it out.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you so I'm not. I'm not saying I

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<v Speaker 1>have that's hit No Geart Bradbury, that's it. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying I have any Ben. So that would mean Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Brown is the starter. Then if they like Jared will

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<v Speaker 1>adding to that take with today.

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<v Speaker 2>Or Jared Wilson eventually becomes the starting center and then

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<v Speaker 2>they throw somebody else in.

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<v Speaker 1>Card I get what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not ruling it out. That's just me talking.

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<v Speaker 1>I said this, I wonder if Garrett Bradbury, because you

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<v Speaker 1>see this sometimes the guys first round pick seven years

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<v Speaker 1>all as a starter in this league, is he going

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<v Speaker 1>to sit here and back up a rookie or will

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<v Speaker 1>he say, you know, I want to go somewhere because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, players get hurt and stuff. Lisa, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go somewhere. I have a chance to start.

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<v Speaker 2>If you had to ask me today, I still the

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<v Speaker 2>five isolated out. Yeah, Campbell, Wilson, Bradbury on one who

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<v Speaker 2>moses feels like the group today?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, long way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they do even if they do that, I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be surprised if they keep Ben Brown. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't want to move Wilson. Right now, you're

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<v Speaker 1>scares talk about this, Billy's talk about this. You essentially

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<v Speaker 1>have two backups in because Jared Wilson is your backup center,

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<v Speaker 1>Well you also have a backup guard. That was the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing I was going to say to you.

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<v Speaker 2>We were on the same page here. Dante Scarnekio would

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<v Speaker 2>tell you, if you want the rookie to be at

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<v Speaker 2>left guard, you keep Jared Wilson at left guard, and

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<v Speaker 2>you put Ben Brown at center, because then when Bradbury

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<v Speaker 2>comes back, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Brown for today's practice, why not cold Stranger at center?

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<v Speaker 1>Why Why does Ben Brown get the bump over Cold Strange?

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<v Speaker 1>Unless they don't believe in strangers the center.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't either don't believe in strangers the center, or

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<v Speaker 2>they simply just felt like Ben Brown was better equipped

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think their top lineman, like, if we're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>a little mini Ross projection type thing here, right, Moses Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>brad Berry if he's healthy? Own when who in Campbell? Right? Yes,

0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Demontree Jacobs is clearly the back top backup tackle Cole

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<v Speaker 1>Strange in Ben Brown that gets you to eight usually

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<v Speaker 1>carry nine right, nine or ten. So the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>with that group is you don't have a backup left tackle. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who that's gonna be. And that's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole other conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Until Valarian Low gets out there and we start to

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<v Speaker 2>see anything from him, I don't know how you could

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<v Speaker 2>know it's gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, Venerian law or some sort of backup tackle

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<v Speaker 1>like that feels like the group Laydon Robinson's still buried.

0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, no, no, no, sorry no. Kiten Wallace has been

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<v Speaker 1>with the talk group. Kan Wallace is in the mix

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<v Speaker 1>there left at left guard. But I'm saying like, if

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<v Speaker 1>we were to count that group, so it's Campbell, Wilson, yes,

0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Brad Burry, Moses, and then your top backups are Strange, Wallace, uh,

0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:59.399
<v Speaker 1>Montre Jacobs, Demontree Jacobs, and now Ben Brown. So that's nine.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you carry a tenth left tackle, just maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Cole Strange right well, if he's not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the starting guard and we have Jared Wilson and Kane

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<v Speaker 1>Wallas gonna be the backup guard, is that leave Cole

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<v Speaker 1>Strange on the outside looking in. I feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>just Demantra Jacobs gets bumped if they find a swing tackle.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of that group. I think the question comes down

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<v Speaker 3>to two things. What can you do?

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<v Speaker 2>You feel feel like you can get Ben Brown to

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<v Speaker 2>the practice squad. I'm iffy on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't a guy that started with ten eleven games,

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<v Speaker 1>but most people don't carry Most teams don't carry backup

0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:32.760
<v Speaker 1>centers that don't have any any flexibility to play guard.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true at one position. Backup at center is pretty rare,

0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:38.960
<v Speaker 3>but can you get Ben.

0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Brown though it's not McDaniels has done it.

0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:43.280
<v Speaker 3>The other question is.

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<v Speaker 2>What are they doing at tackle outside of the Mantre

0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Jacobs to back up their starters. So, in my opinion

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<v Speaker 2>that the way you just laid out, Yeah, Cole Strange

0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:57.880
<v Speaker 2>being on the outside looking in, so that of Adarian

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<v Speaker 2>Lowe or a Marcus Bryant or a fourth tackle makes

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<v Speaker 2>the team would make the most sense.

0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Unless it's so to me, it's either then Brown's the

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<v Speaker 1>odd man out because he can only play center, but

0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:13.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't hate them keeping a center only player in

0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:17.320
<v Speaker 1>this offense because it's so complex. Cole Stranger is the

0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:19.960
<v Speaker 1>odd man out because he can only play left guard, yes,

0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:22.840
<v Speaker 1>or Demantra Jacobs being the odd man out because they

0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:24.760
<v Speaker 1>find a swing tackle so they don't need him now

0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:26.760
<v Speaker 1>because they have guys who play left and right, and

0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Caden Walls in a pinch, can play right tackle if

0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you need him to. I think at this point they

0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:32.879
<v Speaker 1>view him primarily as a guard. But he's done it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if it, you know in game, you'd go

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<v Speaker 1>down to your fourth tackle. Okay, we can throw Kayden

0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Wallace out there for the rest of the day and

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<v Speaker 1>then you add another you know, tackle in the in

0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:44.439
<v Speaker 1>before your next game kind of thing. I'm interested, but

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<v Speaker 1>that that kind of feels like, yeah, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Layton Robinson's in the mix. City s got

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<v Speaker 1>hurt today.

0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:53.040
<v Speaker 3>Those two guys I don't think are in.

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<v Speaker 1>The Yeah, they don't seem like they. He didn't seem

0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:55.920
<v Speaker 1>that he was in the mix before he got hurt.

0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:59.040
<v Speaker 1>You see her Durant didn't really look Marcus Bryants would

0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:01.400
<v Speaker 1>probably be the next guy up. And maybe it's can

0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Marcus Bryant beat out Demntre Jacobs because he is a

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<v Speaker 1>swing tackle. He can play at least in theory. He's

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:09.720
<v Speaker 1>got to prove it in theory he can play both sides.

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:12.880
<v Speaker 1>And now you don't keep Jacobs, you'd keep Marcus Bryant.

0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:14.920
<v Speaker 1>He's going to back up both tackle spots. And there

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<v Speaker 1>you go.

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<v Speaker 3>So a couple of things I want to unpack.

0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Let's just stick on the offensive line for now, because

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:22.560
<v Speaker 2>that's where we started anyways, and I feel like we

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:26.560
<v Speaker 2>talked enough about where Drake is at. A couple of

0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:29.840
<v Speaker 2>things I want to talk about at tackle. Let's just

0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:33.880
<v Speaker 2>go to Will Campbell now. Yeah, So here's my take

0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:39.800
<v Speaker 2>on Will Campbell. I personally believe that Will Campbell has

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:44.399
<v Speaker 2>come as advertised because coming into this when he was

0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:47.159
<v Speaker 2>drafted and if you watched him at LSU and you

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:50.119
<v Speaker 2>listen to US or other programs during the draft, but

0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:55.159
<v Speaker 2>hopefully US during the draft, we talked about elite college

0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:59.600
<v Speaker 2>run blocker. So so pass protector has some warts as

0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 2>a past protector that he needs to die now.

0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Specifically that outside inside.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, that's exactly how it's been.

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 2>And I will just say this because I have to

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:11.720
<v Speaker 2>be a little bit positive about my guy.

0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 3>It has been a like, honestly a pleasure to watch

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:16.159
<v Speaker 3>that man run block.

0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Like is he's ferocious.

0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 2>It's incredible, It's un it's awesome. It is awesome to

0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:25.600
<v Speaker 2>watch that man run block like we're we're talking about

0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:28.720
<v Speaker 2>like forget about like the physicality and the finish, because

0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:31.119
<v Speaker 2>oh that's great, right, but everybody can throw their weight around,

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Like if you're six six, three hundred and thirty pounds,

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 2>you can throw your weight around that that that stands with,

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:39.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, without mentioning his ability to work up to

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 2>the second level, he is on the second level in

0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 2>an instant. His down blocks cave in the line of scrimmage,

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 2>like he's literally taken out guys on the line of

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:50.400
<v Speaker 2>scrimmage already down blocking.

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:52.880
<v Speaker 1>He's got Fulda mill Williams over twice in that first

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 1>patter pe.

0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:56.360
<v Speaker 2>He's got the reach in the and you know, the

0:24:57.040 --> 0:25:00.399
<v Speaker 2>athleticism to reach landmarks on the front side of run plays,

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:02.800
<v Speaker 2>whether he's sealing the edge to get the you know

0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:06.199
<v Speaker 2>to on a toss play, or he's front side reaching

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:08.879
<v Speaker 2>on outside zone to hook the edge, you know, to

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 2>get that corner for the running back.

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 3>He finishes, He's nasty, he's physical, he moves people.

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 2>He is a day one I would say almost good

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:24.200
<v Speaker 2>to maybe potentially great run blocker, like right out of

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:28.439
<v Speaker 2>the gate. So with that with Jared Wilson, who I

0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:31.159
<v Speaker 2>also think is a very athletic and could excel as

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 2>a run blocker, and then what you got brewing on

0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 2>the right side, with Morgan Moses and Mike on Wenhu.

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:39.400
<v Speaker 2>I am really optimistic that they're going to be able

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 2>to run block and there might actually be able to

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:47.359
<v Speaker 2>have a productive, effective running game. And we argue all

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 2>the time about the importance of that, but I think

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 2>the main thing to me, the big takeaway is if

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 2>you can run the ball, the things that you can

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 2>do off the run game are just as important as

0:25:58.000 --> 0:25:59.959
<v Speaker 2>actually running the ball right. So if you can come

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<v Speaker 2>into games and teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my, did Evan just suggests running sets up the pass.

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 2>If teams have to respect the fact that you can,

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 2>they can come off the ball and they can get

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:14.720
<v Speaker 2>Mike on Winnu and Morgan Moses on the double team,

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 2>and they can move some bodies right and they can

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 2>run to the left side with actual range and athleticism

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 2>with Jared Wilson and Will Campbell, you know, getting up

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 2>to the second level, or like I said, you know

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 2>hooking the outside, reaching the front side of a play

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:32.160
<v Speaker 2>to get the corner, you know, Trayvon Henderson, scooting around

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 2>the edge like they can do all those things. Now

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 2>you can play action. Now you can boot, you can

0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 2>move the pocket off of that. That's how you can

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 2>protect the quarterback. And not only are you protecting the quarterback,

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 2>but you're protecting the pass protection as well, because you're

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 2>doing these things schematically that give the defense pause and

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.880
<v Speaker 2>and force the defense to respect the run and respect

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:55.679
<v Speaker 2>the actions in the backfield. All of these things limit

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:58.879
<v Speaker 2>the true pass sets that you see from from the

0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:02.200
<v Speaker 2>tackles right like the actual drop back passing game, which

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.120
<v Speaker 2>will allow you to maybe protect those tackles a little

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 2>bit if they are a little bit weaker. Because I

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 2>think Moses has had his issues too at right tackle

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 2>and pass protection as well. So so let me just

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 2>get to stra all of these things. I'm like, I'm

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 2>like a kid on Christmas, like this is awesome.

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Let me just get this straight. Yes, you're talking about

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 1>the run setting up the pass.

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:23.640
<v Speaker 3>For now, it's not where I want to be. It's

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 3>not like the end goal. It's not the end.

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>But you're acknowledging the run can set up the pass.

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:28.919
<v Speaker 1>That whole argument we had this week are about me

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:32.119
<v Speaker 1>saying being tough on the line of scrimmage and pushing

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:35.120
<v Speaker 1>the defense around initially can benefit you later in the game.

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I am acknowledging that run actions mean more than just

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 2>running the football. You can run the ball and then

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 2>you can action off of that. Whether it's play action

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 2>is whether it's.

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:50.919
<v Speaker 1>That run action going to be as effective as the

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:52.720
<v Speaker 1>defense can respect it as much. If you don't prove

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>you can run the ball out right, No, it's not.

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 2>No, it's not I'll concede that point to today because

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited and I'm going to allow myself to be excited.

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:06.159
<v Speaker 1>Excited about the Patriots ability to run to set up

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the pass.

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 2>I am excited about their running game mark the Dayton time.

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:11.919
<v Speaker 2>I think their offensive line is built for it. I

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 2>think their offensive line is built to be able to

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:16.719
<v Speaker 2>run the ball. I think they have backs. I think

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Rimandra Stevenson and Trevion Henderson are going to be bad

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:25.119
<v Speaker 2>in factor backs we talked about we will in a second.

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:26.680
<v Speaker 2>I think they're gonna be able to run the football.

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 2>And Josh has always been able to run the football,

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:30.159
<v Speaker 2>So I think they're gonna be.

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:30.679
<v Speaker 3>Able to run it.

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>You got to get it, got to get a new fullback,

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>got figure out what's happening there.

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 2>But I think they're gonna be able to run the ball. Which, again,

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 2>if you're only if you're running the ball and your

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 2>play actioning, and that's like your base offense, like that's

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 2>your first and second down offense. Now you're whittling down

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 2>those like true past protection reps where the guys are

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 2>on islands at tackle and things like that. Now it's

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 2>only like situational, it's only third down. It's only two minutes, Like,

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 2>you're not doing that for the entire game, where guys

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 2>are just teeing off on Cam and Moses for four

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 2>straight couarders. You can stay ahead of the chains, you

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 2>can stay in the game on the scoreboard, and you

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 2>don't have to put those guys expose them to like

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 2>thirty pass sets per game. That's better that you can

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 2>work with that. Now, that's not to excuse the fact

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 2>or to like to hide from the fact that Will

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Campbell's pass protection in practice so far has been a

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 2>mixed bag.

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:26.719
<v Speaker 3>There's no doubt about that.

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>On the true pass sets, yes, he's been fighting, holding

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>up on the play actions and stuff like the true

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>it's really that, I know people don't like it when

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>we bring this up, but I'm going to bring it up.

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>The Drake may Fore interception practice in the spring, Yes,

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 1>it was four picks and six throws, and then he

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>was fine after that. This was like he allowed to

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 1>sacks today and a pressure is in the span of

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.479
<v Speaker 1>like four snaps, right, And then I thought the rest

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>of the day he was fine. There was nothing glaring.

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 1>So it's just it's concerning because it wasn't such a

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 1>short window and he's beat on that same move. That's

0:29:58.200 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 1>what I want to ask you to go back to

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about, amble and kind of coming as advertised.

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>We knew I mean the arm length thing aside, and

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's loosely related to the arm length. But

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 1>how do you how do we knew we need to

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>get better at that outside in move and just protecting

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 1>the inside right? How do you like? What is the

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>coaching point? What do we look for to see he's

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:23.479
<v Speaker 1>improved other than just okay, he's blocking it? Like, what

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 1>do we look for to see how does he adjust

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>to being better against that move?

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 3>So if we.

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 2>If we go class glass half empty on this and

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 2>we tie it to the arm length, which it could

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 2>be tied, it.

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Is loosely related. So it's not it's not his arms

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 1>are too short he can't reach out there, but.

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>I think it is so most of the time when

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 2>this happens, it's because he'll face like a guy like

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Chase on ur s Winston who's got some speed off

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 2>the edge, and in order for him to get his

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 2>hands on those types of guys, he might need to

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 2>take an extra be he leans a little bit right

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 2>to get out there because he doesn't have the length

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>to just reach him. So he's over compensating, right, he's

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 2>reaching out further to the outside and he's getting his

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 2>weight over here. And then they're just swimming across inside

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 2>back inside. So all of these things could be tied.

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 2>If you want to be glass half empty about it,

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 2>they could be tied to the arm light. Now, how

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 2>do you work around that? I think it's there's two ways. Obviously,

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 2>every guy inside outside you want to set inside out.

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 2>You want to protect the inside first and make the

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 2>guy go the long way home.

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>And he has done a good job. He does this

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>against Keon White today when he gets beat outside initially

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>he has good recovery. Yeah, so he can. It's not perfect,

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>but and I was talking to Felgrin Maz about this.

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I didn't even mean to plug it again.

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Something that great offensive lineman can do. And

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>you can speak to this better than me. But it's

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 1>just kind of how I've always felt. Nobody goes a

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>whole season without getting beat. You're gonna get beat. The

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>greats get beat a handful of times. But there's getting beat,

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and there's getting beat right, you can kind of lose.

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 3>The rep today against Bandon Swinston.

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 1>So that was a blowby, right, that was not just

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 1>to beat those blowby like being better at getting beat

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>initially and then recovering and kind of making it so okay.

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Drake has to like getting beat, so Drake has to

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 1>step up and reset versus getting beat. So Drake gets

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 1>out right sacked are obviously two different things, sure, and

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 1>so I think there's some of that where like if

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 1>you get when he's getting beat to the outside, it's

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 1>not it's not like leading the sacks, it's just kind

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>of moving the pocket, right.

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 2>So what I see from him is that in order

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 2>for him to reach those out those high side rushers,

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 2>those guys that are testing his edge with speed, he's

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 2>got to be aggressive. And so he comes with both

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 2>hands and he just wants to fire his hands because

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 2>he wants to end the rep as quickly as possible.

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 2>He's got great grip strength and great base power, so

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 2>if he gets his hands on you, the rep is over.

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 2>So his goal is to get his hands on people

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 2>quickly and be more aggressive. Whereas like if you're a bigger,

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 2>longer tackle, you can kind of just sit.

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 3>Back and catch guys.

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Trent Brown, he is trying to go get him, and

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 2>because of that, when he whiffs, he whiffs badly. So

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 2>being more patient in his sad and kind of trusting

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 2>his feet more than anything, I think is really the

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 2>starting point of where I would think that the coaches

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 2>are out with him because he's got great athleticism and

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 2>he's got great feet. So trust the fact that you

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:32.280
<v Speaker 2>can move your feet. Instead of coming out and getting

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 2>over extended and throwing that punch with two hands, try

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 2>to sit back a little bit more, try to be

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more patient, wait it out for an

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 2>extra beat, and try to use your feet to recover.

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 3>That's what I would coach you. But I'm not Doug Muro.

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm not offensive one. I'm not trying to pretend to be.

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 1>So that's what I would some of it too. And

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much you do this with practice,

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 1>but like just on film, this is when guys will

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 1>go to that move. This is the looks that will

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>come with that move, and like if you know it's coming,

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>you can better, Like can film help with that?

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 2>It can, especially if like a guy has a go

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 2>to move and then like a go to counter off

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 2>that move, because what's gonna end up happening my guess

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 2>is is that guys are probably going to speed speed

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 2>speed for like three quarters yea, and they'll save the

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 2>spin or the inside move until it's like a third

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:21.479
<v Speaker 2>down in the fourth quarter and it's like a big

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 2>moment in the game. You know, Max Crosby, if he

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 2>does rush over the left side a little bit on

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Will Campbell, I don't expect Max Crosby to go to

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 2>the inside move the first time he faces Will Campbell.

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 2>He'll try to sequence it together and build up to

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 2>it and then set it up for a big moment.

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 2>So there's a little bit of that like anticipation of

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 2>like when it might come as well. But the other

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 2>thing is, and I know people don't want to hear

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 2>this about a fourth overall pick, but he's a rookie

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.400
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day. There obviously are schematic

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 2>things that you can do to help him protect the

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 2>outside a little bit better. You know, you can chip,

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 2>you can put a tight end over there, give him

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>a little forearm, a little get a slab going over

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 2>there with Hunter Henry or Austin Hooper. You can have

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:02.799
<v Speaker 2>the backs chip out of the backfield, and then he

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 2>can compensate for the chip right and kind of set

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more to the inside anticipating the chip,

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 2>and then you can feed the player onto him so

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:12.879
<v Speaker 2>that he's a little bit easier for him to block

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 2>the guy. I know people don't necessarily want that, like

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 2>they want him to be able to pass protect on

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 2>an island, like he's Joe Thomas. I get that, but

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:23.240
<v Speaker 2>out of the shoot, if they have to do stuff

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:25.400
<v Speaker 2>like that, if it's third and ten and it's a

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 2>long down and distance and the defense is going to

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 2>pin his ears back and they have to chip or

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 2>they have to help, you might have to do that.

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:35.239
<v Speaker 1>It's not his whole career. It's things you're doing to

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 1>help him as a rookie get along while he builds

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:39.280
<v Speaker 1>up the ability to play more on an island.

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:41.799
<v Speaker 2>Again, I would stress to him if it were me,

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 2>I would stress to him like, you have great feet. Yeah,

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 2>you're quick, You're nimble on your feet. You can slide,

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 2>you can set out, you can mirror pass rushers, you

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 2>can recover, Like, just sit back just a little bit

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.439
<v Speaker 2>longer and just trust your feet and don't be as

0:35:57.440 --> 0:35:59.799
<v Speaker 2>aggressive as he tends to get at times, and I

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 2>think he'll be all right again. Like I would still

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 2>give him a passing grade for the camp. And I

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:07.399
<v Speaker 2>think his run blocking is like an A plus out

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 2>of the shoe.

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 1>His run blocking's legit. Yeah, it's he's again. I said

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 1>the word before, I'll say he's vicious.

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:17.839
<v Speaker 2>So on the other side, with Morgan Moses, I'm a little.

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:21.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm small seat concerned. Is that allowed to be said?

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Uh, why are you? And then I'll say yes or no.

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:29.320
<v Speaker 2>It's two reasons. One, I think it was better today,

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 2>so I'll give him that. Maybe maybe it was too

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:34.640
<v Speaker 2>premature for me to jump to this conclusion. I've seen

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:39.280
<v Speaker 2>speed give him some problems, protecting the corner against speed rushers,

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 2>getting out of really getting out of his stance, and

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 2>like getting his hands on some of those guys. I

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:47.360
<v Speaker 2>think it's been a little bit of a problem. The

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 2>other thing is, and maybe this is just a twelve

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 2>year veteran that they're easing in and they're managing and

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 2>all that good stuff. But I can't help but think,

0:36:56.960 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 2>is he really going to play seventeen games and hopefully

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 2>for this team this year?

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Like more than seventeen?

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Like you're hoping that they're going to play eighteen or

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:09.479
<v Speaker 2>nineteen games twenty Hell, let's go for it.

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Is he gonna be able to do that?

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 2>And if is not a Moses problem necessarily, I mean,

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:15.839
<v Speaker 2>the durability is a Moses problem, but he's thirty four.

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:21.240
<v Speaker 2>It's it comes with the territory at times. You no offense.

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 2>But I don't particularly love what they have backing him up.

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 2>So like, if he's missing a month of the season,

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:33.480
<v Speaker 2>then that's a month of Trey Jacobs, Vederian Lowe, Marcus Bryant,

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 2>whoever it is at right tackle. That's a problem that's

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 2>not good enough.

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:41.759
<v Speaker 1>So that's not being concerned about more like I don't durability, right,

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess yeah, No, the backup tackles. We talked this

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot over the you know, over the off season,

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:53.360
<v Speaker 1>like it's a question. They relatively answered their starting tackle questions.

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:55.839
<v Speaker 1>We know who they are. At this time last year,

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>we had no idea who the starting left tackle is

0:37:57.680 --> 0:37:58.959
<v Speaker 1>going to be. It was either gonna be the rookie

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:01.360
<v Speaker 1>right tackle, they were going to move over the borderline

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>starting right tackle they signed from Pittsburgh who got caught

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 1>who they were gonna move over or Vederian Lowe, and

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:08.319
<v Speaker 1>then it ended up being low who I think was

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 1>like the third option there and the right tackle. We

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:11.839
<v Speaker 1>didn't know who that was gonna be, and that guy

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>ended up at this time last year being on the

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Denver Broncos. So it's they answered to an extent. The

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 1>starting group, it's a house of cards, like if it

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 1>is Campbell, Wilson, Bradbury owned went ww Moses. I feel

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 1>okay about that. It's not gonna be a top five

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 1>unit in the league, but I think that that's representative.

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 1>But that can fall apart real fast because you lose

0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:39.919
<v Speaker 1>one or two guys and it's the depth is not there.

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>And look, they had a lot of needs this offseason.

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I understand why, you know, back up right tackle maybe

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:48.280
<v Speaker 1>wasn't on the top of the list, but it's something

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 1>that probably went under address. Same on the left side.

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 1>So unless you really believe in Marcus Bryant, he's the

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 1>one guy that's kind of an unknown. So I won't

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say you know what you have in

0:38:57.440 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 1>him because you don't. Uh, you know, Andre Jacobs, we

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 1>know who he is. He's a career back up kind

0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:07.360
<v Speaker 1>of fringing player Darian Lowe. He runs hot and cold,

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 1>but when it's cold, it's really not good. I'm concerned

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 1>about their tackle death as the durability. He's thirty four

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 1>years old.

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that shouldn't be und in hand, right, Like

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying it's news to me. I just watching

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 2>these practices and like he's in and out of practice,

0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:24.279
<v Speaker 2>and then he's in, then he's out again, then he's out, and.

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 1>So I be more worried about that if it wasn't

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:31.320
<v Speaker 1>clear that they were making that point of emphasis for

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:33.439
<v Speaker 1>a lot of their veterans. Right, I'm not worried about

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:35.760
<v Speaker 1>the condition. Harold Landry's in. He got a veteran day today.

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Carlon Davis will see he's been out. But like they're

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of doing the veteran day thing for quite a

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 1>few guys. It was just and I don't know, maybe

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 1>this is a dumb way to look at it by me.

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:47.959
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's just being too optimistic. If it was Jess

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Morgan Moses, I'd be like, oh, there's something wrong. I

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:52.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of look at it in the fact that Vrabel's

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>openly talking about it. They're just kind of trying to

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 1>make sure some of their veterans are in the right

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 1>shape for the start of the season.

0:39:58.320 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 3>So he was better.

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Toda, he was better, And I think he didn't rotate

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:04.399
<v Speaker 1>with the mantra Jacobs today, right.

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:07.280
<v Speaker 2>No, And so maybe feel a little bit better watching

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 2>him in one on ones and team I thought he'd

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:12.880
<v Speaker 2>protected the edge a lot better today. So maybe that

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, a lot of offensive line Bay two is

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 2>just like rhythmic and time and all that. So maybe

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 2>getting the snap counts down and getting his feet and

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 2>his like you know, reaction time and all that jargon

0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:27.319
<v Speaker 2>like down so that he can be a little bit better.

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 1>We'll say this. I don't know if it's concerned with

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 1>Morgan Moses, just something to watch for. You know how

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:35.839
<v Speaker 1>these tackles now, like they're trying to jump the snap

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:37.759
<v Speaker 1>the same way defensive players are trying to jump the snap.

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:38.920
<v Speaker 3>And he does that.

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 1>That Washington game last year, they are called like five

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:44.399
<v Speaker 1>fall starts in a row. Yeah, No, he's he's right

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 1>there trying to jump. He's gonna get called for a

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 1>few fall starts early on because that's he's that's.

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 2>That's part of like, Okay, is he doing that to

0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 2>overcompensate because he's.

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Not a lot. I think a lot of veteran guys

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 1>do that. I think, now that's just like the thing

0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:01.359
<v Speaker 1>to do.

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:02.800
<v Speaker 3>They try to be smart.

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I don't think it's a it's like a

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 1>veteran trying to compensate because what's his name, Trent Williams

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>does it. Yeah, but I guess he's older too. It's

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:14.239
<v Speaker 1>bad exactly, I know.

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 2>But like I hear what you're saying. I said, I

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 2>think what more like my concern level is less about that.

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 2>I think like Morgan mos is going to be like

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:24.240
<v Speaker 2>a bust of a signing.

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's more worried about his availability.

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm worried about his availability and the fact that they

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 2>really don't have anything that you feel good about behind him.

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 1>That's that's with a thirty four year old player. That's fair.

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm more concerned. It is a dumb take.

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm more concerned about what's behind him than

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>his durability. And I get there intertwined.

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 3>But like, right, because you only knew what's behind him

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:45.279
<v Speaker 3>if he's hurt.

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 1>Right, but he's played at least fourteen games, yes, every

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:50.479
<v Speaker 1>year of his career.

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Right, so yes, but for a team that we're projecting

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 2>to go like eight, nine to nine to eight and

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 2>be like, right.

0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Those two or three games, couldn't I yeah, yeah, I

0:41:58.600 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 1>get what you're saying.

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:01.799
<v Speaker 2>All right, So I think that's enough on the offensive line.

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 2>I think we just spent forty five minutes on the

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 2>offensive line, which is our show. And that's not surprising.

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:10.800
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned Trayvon Henderson. You wanted to talk about Travon Henderson.

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 3>And I did too. He's on my list.

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 2>The main thing here I had written down for him

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 2>just pass game impact, Like I think he's gonna be

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 2>an impact receiver out of the gate, just an impact

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 2>playmaker in general. But you see in the passing game

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:31.240
<v Speaker 2>when he runs like a wheel or like a vertical

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 2>route out of the backfield, that's going to be a

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:36.319
<v Speaker 2>hard foot race for a lot of linebackers to hang

0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 2>with him. We've seen him run some routes detached from

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 2>the formation as well, like outside the formation too. I

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 2>think those short little option routes that we saw James

0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:49.400
<v Speaker 2>White live an entire Patriot Hall of Fame career on,

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:51.760
<v Speaker 2>I think those are in his bag as well. Today

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:55.240
<v Speaker 2>I saw him throw a chip block that landed a pancake,

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 2>which was cool to see see that pass protection a

0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 2>little bit. He has come as advertised as well, I

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 2>would say, from explosiveness, sub game, pass game contribution. My

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 2>only question with Travion Henderson after watching him since the spring,

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 2>is not ability. It's workload, like just managing workload. He's

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:19.320
<v Speaker 2>not the biggest guy, he's not the biggest running back.

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make sense to make him a volume running back.

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 2>So how exactly do they strike that balance of this

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 2>guy's a dynamic playmaker, but we also don't want to

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:30.200
<v Speaker 2>overuse him at the same time.

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 3>That's the only question at this point.

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I still think Rimondre's getting a brunt of

0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 1>the workload in terms of the overall snaps. Now, the

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:38.719
<v Speaker 1>big moments right third down, two minute drill. I think

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 1>that's where you see Henderson. The thing that stood out

0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 1>to me, and we'll need to look at this more

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 1>when the games come around, because it's not a perfect

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 1>gauge in when they're not tackling, but man, when he

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 1>gets to the outside. There was a run today and

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:53.800
<v Speaker 1>he had one yesterday. It was the same thing. Yesterday

0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:56.799
<v Speaker 1>was a toss. I think today was a stretch. The

0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 1>one yesterday, like he has tossed the right side and

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 1>the defensive line comes down and caves it in and

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like he's got nothing, like it should have been

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:08.400
<v Speaker 1>blown up and he had a little sliver angle and

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 1>when he hit the top gear ended up being a touchdown.

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Like his ability to create something from nothing by getting

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:18.319
<v Speaker 1>the right angle and using his speed the fast and

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 1>take right. Okay, he's fast and his ball carrier vision,

0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 1>but not just identifying the hole but being able to

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 1>time up, like when to run full speed. So on

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 1>that toss play for instance, right, if he just run

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 1>full speed right away, he would have lost the yards

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:36.359
<v Speaker 1>because the blocking wouldn't have developed and the defense would

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:38.280
<v Speaker 1>have gotten to him. He waited up. He was patient,

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 1>and then he knew when to hit the speed and

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 1>what angle to hit. I go back to the screen

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:45.400
<v Speaker 1>touchdown against Texas in the college football playoffhere.

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:48.479
<v Speaker 3>If you watch that to be there, right, if.

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:50.400
<v Speaker 1>He runs full speed as soon as he catches the ball,

0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:53.319
<v Speaker 1>it's like a fifteen yard game, which isn't bad, but

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:56.720
<v Speaker 1>you know it's the play's not developed. He's patient, he waits,

0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:58.840
<v Speaker 1>the blocking develops, he identifies the hole, he hits it

0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 1>and then boom, he hits that top gear and pulls

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:04.399
<v Speaker 1>away his ability to identify when he needs to run

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 1>full speed when he kind of needs to slow up

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 1>to be patient to visualize the blocks developing. All of that,

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:11.319
<v Speaker 1>he is very impressive and it's a couple times now

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 1>he's created something from nothing, which we talked about this

0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:16.919
<v Speaker 1>offensive line. There might be a few cases here where's

0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 1>running the ball it looks like nothing. So if you

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 1>can get something out of that, that's going to be

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 1>a major boost for this offense.

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:24.800
<v Speaker 3>He's fast, there's no doubt about that. That speed.

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:27.960
<v Speaker 2>He's fast, and that speed translates instantly, like you can

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 2>see it.

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:30.359
<v Speaker 3>It's palpable, you can feel it.

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:33.800
<v Speaker 2>He's he's faster than other people on the field and

0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:36.280
<v Speaker 2>and he's a I think he's gonna be a pretty

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:40.399
<v Speaker 2>good receiver now. The only thing that like is holding

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:43.360
<v Speaker 2>him back if anything at receiver is just like landmarks

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 2>and like kind of figuring out like how exactly Drake

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:48.759
<v Speaker 2>wants him to run certain routes in terms of like

0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 2>where he ends up.

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:52.759
<v Speaker 1>Ye, look, get there, they'll get their typical rookie staf right.

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 2>They'll get there with that with you with Remandre I

0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:57.360
<v Speaker 2>have no reason to believe that he won't be a

0:45:57.480 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 2>lead back for this team on early down, lead back,

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to call that. I until today, Landlerson

0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 2>got some reps today with the top offense with some

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 2>other frontline guys with Drake, But I thought Antonio Gibson

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:14.239
<v Speaker 2>had been pretty much holding everybody off for that third

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:16.440
<v Speaker 2>running backs body. Gibson's actually and maybe it's just a

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:19.720
<v Speaker 2>veteran thing versus a rookie, but He's gotten some reps

0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 2>over you know, in front of I should say, or

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:26.080
<v Speaker 2>ahead of Trayvon Henderson even at times this summer. So

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:29.399
<v Speaker 2>I still think Gibson is is okay, Like, I still

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 2>think he's probably on this team and has a role.

0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:35.800
<v Speaker 2>He's been returning kickoffs too in special teams with Henderson

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:39.759
<v Speaker 2>that's been like the top duo returning kickoffs. Let's talk

0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:42.319
<v Speaker 2>about the receivers, because I know this is another hot

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:46.360
<v Speaker 2>button topic. My other like take other than the offensive

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:48.759
<v Speaker 2>line and how just jazzed up I am about the

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:52.080
<v Speaker 2>fact that they have two rookies that can play. I'm

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 2>also trying to like manage my excitement level for Stefon Diggs,

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Like my excitement level for Steffonde is pretty high. And

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:01.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to keep it in perspective and like,

0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:05.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, take the hose and like put put me

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 2>out a little bit about this, because I understand that

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 2>the bar is not very high with what I'm about

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:15.600
<v Speaker 2>to say, but it's still true. He's the best receiver

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:18.720
<v Speaker 2>I've seen in Patriots camp since prime edilement. And it's

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 2>not particularly close. Like you just see like the efficiency

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:26.120
<v Speaker 2>of his movements, the quickness of his movements, how good

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 2>he is his hands, like he has magnets for hands,

0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 2>and like his ability to finish at the catch point,

0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:34.279
<v Speaker 2>and even when he's like in a crowded, contested catch

0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:37.120
<v Speaker 2>kind of situation, his ability to finish through contact and

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:40.000
<v Speaker 2>keep the play, uh, you know, keep the ball in

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 2>his hands.

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:43.320
<v Speaker 3>He just he's a professional receiver.

0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Like he just looks different than everybody else on this

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 2>on the field. Uh, It's it's really impressive to watch him.

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:54.880
<v Speaker 2>I just if he's healthy and he's a go and

0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:57.360
<v Speaker 2>everything's fine, which it appears to be. Like I just

0:47:57.400 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 2>don't see a world where he doesn't catch a hundred

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:01.839
<v Speaker 2>passes in this offense. It's like I just can't really

0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 2>fathom how that doesn't happen.

0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's gonna be in that role, and he's gotta

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 1>stay healthy.

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:06.320
<v Speaker 3>He's gotta stay healthy.

0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 2>But I and look, it could be like I've said before,

0:48:09.440 --> 0:48:12.760
<v Speaker 2>it could be one hundred catches for a thousand yards,

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 2>like it might only be like ten or eleven yards

0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:17.280
<v Speaker 2>per catch. I don't know if he's gonna be truly

0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:22.480
<v Speaker 2>a big play down the field burner anymore, but he is.

0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:26.359
<v Speaker 2>He's as advertised. And like I said, I I think

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:28.560
<v Speaker 2>over the last four or five years, you've seen some

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:32.360
<v Speaker 2>other veteran receivers, whether it's Nelson Agalore and Kendrick Bourne

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:35.840
<v Speaker 2>and DeVante Parker and those types of guys, and you're like, like,

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:38.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, Bourne's fine, but like those other two, it

0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:39.960
<v Speaker 2>was like, I don't know, you know.

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about this, right. I don't feel that

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:44.720
<v Speaker 3>way about Stefan Diggs. I feel like Stefan Diggs looks

0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 3>like Stefan Diggs and that's a that's fun. Like, that's

0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 3>a great development for them, and I think he's gonna

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.400
<v Speaker 3>be a real player for them. They the Patriots might

0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:54.400
<v Speaker 3>have a Fantasy relevant wide receiver.

0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:58.439
<v Speaker 1>And Josh mctangiel's offense you never know, but no, he's been.

0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:00.880
<v Speaker 1>He had that one day where made a couple of drops.

0:49:00.880 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Besides that, he's clearly one of my favorite targets. What's

0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:06.800
<v Speaker 1>really impressive is how advanced their chemistry seems to be already,

0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:09.239
<v Speaker 1>considering he wasn't really on the field with him in

0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:13.279
<v Speaker 1>the spring. Yeah him, I mean the clear top four

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 1>is him, Pop Booty and Kyle Williams. Yes, and then

0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:19.960
<v Speaker 1>after that, you know, where's Kendrick Bourne stand, where's Jalen

0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Polk stand? All that? But those four there's a different

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:26.799
<v Speaker 1>kind of talk about speed. It's different kind of speed

0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:28.440
<v Speaker 1>to that unit. I think they all have good chemistry

0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:31.279
<v Speaker 1>with Drake May already you mentioned Kyle Williams. Your boy.

0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Big catch today go out from Drake May exactly as advertised.

0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 2>He caught another one yesterday too in high red zone

0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:41.360
<v Speaker 2>where he just ran by the guy the defender on

0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 2>a go rounde to and d Drake dropped that one

0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:47.000
<v Speaker 2>in the bucket as well. The one today was not

0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 2>that it was like a bad play by Kyle Williams.

0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 2>It was a beautiful throw though, Like that was you know,

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Kyle Williams really hadn't run past I think it was

0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:58.960
<v Speaker 2>DJ James that was in coverage. He hadn't really run

0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:01.319
<v Speaker 2>past him yet, and Drake just kind of layered it

0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:03.440
<v Speaker 2>or laid it out there for him, and Kyle Williams

0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:05.879
<v Speaker 2>ran underneath it and Drake kind of threw him open,

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:09.120
<v Speaker 2>like he just kind of What I was happy about

0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:11.880
<v Speaker 2>with Kyle Williams on that play is that he kept running.

0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Like at first I thought maybe he was going to

0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 2>shut it down and like run a back shoulder or

0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:19.239
<v Speaker 2>something like that, but he knew what Drake was going

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:21.359
<v Speaker 2>for and he kept running and Drake ended up throwing

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:24.439
<v Speaker 2>him open. So it's a great connection there. The back

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 2>shoulder timing still needs a little bit of work like

0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:28.960
<v Speaker 2>that seems like it's still a little off. I'm not

0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:31.919
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent sold yet that. Like in press Man,

0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:34.239
<v Speaker 2>the first and second level routes, I don't know if

0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:36.920
<v Speaker 2>he's going to where his separation level is with that.

0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 2>But he can run a go route, that's for sure.

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:43.000
<v Speaker 2>And if you start there and maybe expand as we

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:46.920
<v Speaker 2>go here, then that's that's good news for Kyle Williams.

0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Is he pushing Kisehan Boody? Is there a world where

0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:53.839
<v Speaker 2>Kyle Williams is starting for this team. Do you still

0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 2>feel like Booty's got that job, you know, locked down?

0:50:57.000 --> 0:50:59.319
<v Speaker 3>Where do he? Where's that competition for you right now?

0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? You know, booties gonna make the team with how

0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:05.839
<v Speaker 1>involved he is. I wonder if it's one of those things,

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:07.520
<v Speaker 1>and we've seen them do this in the past where

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the veteran starts the year and then it's not one

0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:13.840
<v Speaker 1>major switch, just over the course the rookie slowly and

0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:16.560
<v Speaker 1>slowly gets more involved. I also think we know McDaniels

0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:19.120
<v Speaker 1>isn't afraid to rotate and have four or five key guys,

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and you know there isn't necessarily a default eleven personnel.

0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:23.799
<v Speaker 1>There might be that one guy it was Edelman, it

0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:27.080
<v Speaker 1>would probably be Digs in this scenario that's like always

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:28.960
<v Speaker 1>on the field, but the other guys are moving around,

0:51:29.040 --> 0:51:31.400
<v Speaker 1>especially when a guy like Digs has the flexibility he

0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 1>does to play xy and slot. So yeah, you wonder

0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:37.279
<v Speaker 1>with Kyle, I wonder if it's just gonna be an

0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:38.600
<v Speaker 1>outright forman rotation.

0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:40.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you wonder with Kyle Williams too, Like I

0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:44.320
<v Speaker 2>just mentioned, maybe it's like a limited route tree for

0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:48.440
<v Speaker 2>him to start and so in certain packages, certain calls,

0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:51.320
<v Speaker 2>like certain times of the game you might want, you know,

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the go route specialist on the field, right, which might

0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:55.960
<v Speaker 2>be when he is to kind of start his career

0:51:56.920 --> 0:51:59.440
<v Speaker 2>and then he plays in those situations. I don't know

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:03.080
<v Speaker 2>if he's though, from just like an all around game perspective,

0:52:03.480 --> 0:52:06.480
<v Speaker 2>like is he ready to be like the starting X

0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:09.440
<v Speaker 2>receiver and like playing in all packages and all that

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff. Probably not, but he can definitely have

0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:15.040
<v Speaker 2>a role as like like you said, like kind of

0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:18.080
<v Speaker 2>like a wide receiver three slash four where he's rotating

0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:20.799
<v Speaker 2>with Booty and sometimes you know, in certain situations it

0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:23.480
<v Speaker 2>might be Booty, like maybe in like a twelve personnel

0:52:23.480 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 2>when they want like a more experienced run blocker and

0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:28.600
<v Speaker 2>somebody that like knows those elements a little bit better.

0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:30.880
<v Speaker 2>But then when they get into those eleven packages and

0:52:30.880 --> 0:52:32.759
<v Speaker 2>they just want to get their best playmakers on the

0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:35.080
<v Speaker 2>field and their most speed on the field, like then

0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:38.080
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's a Kyle Williams. The last thing on the receivers,

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:41.560
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to mention where you had to take about

0:52:41.640 --> 0:52:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Javon Baker the other day on on my old program

0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:49.680
<v Speaker 2>on Clintis that had our friends talking on the beat

0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:51.280
<v Speaker 2>about your take about Javon Baker.

0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Were people talking about it, really little.

0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Chatter about Javon Baker, not just from oh just in

0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:56.640
<v Speaker 3>the group chat.

0:52:57.280 --> 0:53:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, no, no, one like yeah, but Javon Baker.

0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:05.799
<v Speaker 2>Is there any chance for Javon Baker, because so if

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:08.479
<v Speaker 2>you had to stack like his highlight reel catches. Yeah,

0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:10.839
<v Speaker 2>in this camp like he has as many highlight reel

0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 2>catches as anybody. That doesn't mean that it's a consistency issue,

0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:17.960
<v Speaker 2>is my point. Like he makes once a day, he makes.

0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:20.680
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, the lows aren't as low as

0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:22.400
<v Speaker 1>they like. There was one instance where he didn't line

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:24.200
<v Speaker 1>upright and it was right after me.

0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:26.800
<v Speaker 3>That Alex has talked about this already.

0:53:26.840 --> 0:53:29.520
<v Speaker 1>But well, okay, here's the thing you talked about being

0:53:29.520 --> 0:53:32.680
<v Speaker 1>lowercase C concerned right about Morgan moses to borrow that

0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:37.320
<v Speaker 1>parlance lowercase G Goods start to camp for Javon Baker,

0:53:37.440 --> 0:53:39.319
<v Speaker 1>lower case GE gets sorry, Look, you know this is

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:41.680
<v Speaker 1>how I do camp, right. I'm a credit where credit

0:53:41.719 --> 0:53:43.800
<v Speaker 1>is due, guy, I actually have another credit where credits

0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:46.360
<v Speaker 1>do take that we can do after this. But Javon

0:53:46.440 --> 0:53:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Baker came out he wasn't even working with the ones

0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:50.840
<v Speaker 1>he was working with the twos and threes, and he

0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:53.360
<v Speaker 1>was getting open regularly against twos and threes. Now he

0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:55.520
<v Speaker 1>dropped one and Josh Dobbs overthrew him a few times,

0:53:55.560 --> 0:53:57.719
<v Speaker 1>so he didn't have any catches. The overthrows and ours fall.

0:53:57.800 --> 0:54:00.160
<v Speaker 1>That drop is well, it's not his faulty. No, you're

0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:02.280
<v Speaker 1>the one where Doms missed him by like fifteen yards.

0:54:02.600 --> 0:54:05.600
<v Speaker 1>It's actually impressive as far Dobbs through the ball. But

0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:09.560
<v Speaker 1>like he's getting open, okay, credit, What more is he

0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:11.759
<v Speaker 1>supposed to do when he's with If he's gonna make

0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:14.120
<v Speaker 1>the team, he's got to show he can compete against

0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:16.480
<v Speaker 1>top unit. In order to get the reps with the

0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:19.680
<v Speaker 1>top unit, he has to show that he deserves them

0:54:20.080 --> 0:54:22.120
<v Speaker 1>by winning against lower units. And I think he did that.

0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:24.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's gotten a little bit more with Drake

0:54:24.560 --> 0:54:26.200
<v Speaker 1>may here he caught the big bomb from him the

0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:29.080
<v Speaker 1>other day. Ye had that toe tap catch? Was that

0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:30.600
<v Speaker 1>from mayor Dobbs and near the tow tap on the

0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:32.799
<v Speaker 1>sideline today Dobbs, that might have been Dobbs. He's still

0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:36.439
<v Speaker 1>working mostly with Dobbs. But like, look, this is again

0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:38.480
<v Speaker 1>this is how I do camp. I don't think I

0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:40.239
<v Speaker 1>still don't think Jayvon Baker is making the team. I

0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:42.000
<v Speaker 1>still think he's far away and there's too many guys

0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:45.279
<v Speaker 1>ahead of him, and all that lower case G goods

0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:48.280
<v Speaker 1>start to camp credit where credit due. He's done pretty much.

0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:50.600
<v Speaker 3>As he's done what he could have possibly.

0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Right, He's doing as much as he could realistically do.

0:54:52.360 --> 0:54:55.719
<v Speaker 1>He's making the most the opportunity he's getting. So lowercase

0:54:55.760 --> 0:54:59.239
<v Speaker 1>G goods start to camp for Jaymon Baker realistically, you know,

0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:02.359
<v Speaker 1>like realist good situation, And because there are so many

0:55:02.360 --> 0:55:04.520
<v Speaker 1>receivers ahead of him, if they let's say, like they

0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:07.560
<v Speaker 1>hadn't signed stuff on Diggs, right, this may be a

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:10.640
<v Speaker 1>more serious conversation because there's probably one or two guys

0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:13.120
<v Speaker 1>in the way, especially when mac Hollins comes back, or

0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:15.560
<v Speaker 1>like let's say just like they had less you know,

0:55:15.600 --> 0:55:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Polk was still hurt. Whatever, it might be more serious conversations.

0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Probably not. So You're just like, realistically, if he's gonna

0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:25.560
<v Speaker 1>have this kind of success against twos and threes that

0:55:25.600 --> 0:55:27.879
<v Speaker 1>he is, throw him out there in the second half

0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:30.399
<v Speaker 1>of preseason games, let him take over and maybe get

0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:31.520
<v Speaker 1>like a six round pick for him.

0:55:31.800 --> 0:55:34.880
<v Speaker 2>So what I I think he has so along with

0:55:34.920 --> 0:55:37.839
<v Speaker 2>just like the highlight Yeah, the flashes. The other day

0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:39.719
<v Speaker 2>you mentioned the seven on seven catch where he just

0:55:39.760 --> 0:55:41.960
<v Speaker 2>basically blew by the entire defense and caught a deep

0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:45.399
<v Speaker 2>off from Drake May. Yesterday he high pointed the one

0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:48.000
<v Speaker 2>in the in red zone period where he went above

0:55:48.360 --> 0:55:48.840
<v Speaker 2>the corner.

0:55:48.840 --> 0:55:50.319
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember who the corner.

0:55:50.160 --> 0:55:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Was, but he Moss the guy Mott was I want

0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:54.359
<v Speaker 1>to say Marcellus Dial.

0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:56.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he went right like he was on.

0:55:56.440 --> 0:55:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Javon Baker went to the tenth floor and the corner

0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:00.919
<v Speaker 2>could only get to the seventh floor, and he won

0:56:01.440 --> 0:56:05.400
<v Speaker 2>right right won the ball. He has a skill set

0:56:05.680 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 2>and I would like he has a skill set plus

0:56:07.680 --> 0:56:12.200
<v Speaker 2>a body type that's different from Booty and Kyle Williams. Yeah,

0:56:12.320 --> 0:56:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Javon Baker runs like a gazille. Like Javon Baker's got

0:56:15.480 --> 0:56:18.359
<v Speaker 2>long strides, he got great build up speed, like he

0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:20.640
<v Speaker 2>pulls away from the defense a little bit better than

0:56:20.680 --> 0:56:23.560
<v Speaker 2>a Kasehan Boody does. And then he's got better size

0:56:23.560 --> 0:56:27.600
<v Speaker 2>than a Kyle Williams. So that's what he does. Going

0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:29.560
<v Speaker 2>for him is that he's a specimen. Like he is

0:56:29.600 --> 0:56:33.759
<v Speaker 2>a physical specimen. He's six' to two with four to four,

0:56:33.840 --> 0:56:36.279
<v Speaker 2>speed four or five speed, maybe BUT i think he's

0:56:36.280 --> 0:56:39.360
<v Speaker 2>probably in the four. Fours like he's got good, speed

0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:42.239
<v Speaker 2>especially long, speed and he's got good size for the,

0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:45.920
<v Speaker 2>position and those other two GUYS i don't think necessarily

0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:48.920
<v Speaker 2>check those. Boxes So Javon baker's got that going for.

0:56:49.000 --> 0:56:49.799
<v Speaker 1>He ran a four or five.

0:56:49.840 --> 0:56:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Four, SEE i feel like he's faster than, That but

0:56:52.640 --> 0:56:54.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe that's just LOWERCASE.

0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:57.040
<v Speaker 1>G good. Start we'll see what happens if he Get

0:56:57.120 --> 0:56:59.000
<v Speaker 1>like here's the. Thing if he's making catches like this

0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:01.320
<v Speaker 1>on a regular basis in preseason, games he's probably not

0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:05.440
<v Speaker 1>going to get to the practice. Squad so it's just something,

0:57:05.560 --> 0:57:08.040
<v Speaker 1>too you, know if you, know it's obviously not ideal

0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:09.560
<v Speaker 1>for round a year?

0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:11.759
<v Speaker 3>Ago where credits do as? WELL i think he's made

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:12.120
<v Speaker 3>some nice.

0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Plays CAN i give you one more guy? Credit where credits?

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Do maybe this lessens the take On Javon. Baker, okay

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 1>you know what else? Said like a sneaky solid couple

0:57:19.520 --> 0:57:21.600
<v Speaker 1>of days, here it's just regularly showing. Up caught a

0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:22.720
<v Speaker 1>couple of touchdowns last few.

0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:25.400
<v Speaker 3>Days, Gee, scott SO i was going to get to

0:57:25.440 --> 0:57:25.680
<v Speaker 3>the tight.

0:57:25.800 --> 0:57:28.880
<v Speaker 1>End so go, okay go, Ahead well So Hunter Henry

0:57:28.960 --> 0:57:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Austin hooper the top two tight. Ends, obviously still nobody's

0:57:31.400 --> 0:57:34.240
<v Speaker 1>emerged for that third tight. End Jack westover is getting

0:57:34.280 --> 0:57:35.920
<v Speaker 1>most of the third tight end. Reps he was the

0:57:35.960 --> 0:57:38.040
<v Speaker 1>second tight end up When hooper was on, pup but

0:57:38.080 --> 0:57:39.840
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't really done much with, it at least from

0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:42.160
<v Speaker 1>my point of. View you, know blocking, WISE i don't

0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:44.920
<v Speaker 1>know That scott stood out at, all But Josh dobbs

0:57:44.960 --> 0:57:48.240
<v Speaker 1>likes throwing. Him he's been a volume target and the

0:57:48.280 --> 0:57:50.480
<v Speaker 1>one thing that stands out to me is he can

0:57:50.520 --> 0:57:52.400
<v Speaker 1>catch the ball with the defender hanging on his back

0:57:52.880 --> 0:57:55.320
<v Speaker 1>catching and it's not like he's going up mossing, guys

0:57:55.360 --> 0:57:57.600
<v Speaker 1>but on the crosser right when the corner is like

0:57:57.600 --> 0:57:59.240
<v Speaker 1>a hand on your shoulder and he's trying to turn,

0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:01.400
<v Speaker 1>you or he's got a hand underneath under your. Waist

0:58:01.400 --> 0:58:04.960
<v Speaker 1>like he's still catching all those. Passes so he's not getting,

0:58:05.000 --> 0:58:08.760
<v Speaker 1>open but he looks. Open how often he's catching. These

0:58:08.760 --> 0:58:11.760
<v Speaker 1>he's got strung kill so and, look he was a

0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:14.680
<v Speaker 1>highly ranked wide receiver prospect who went To Ohio, state

0:58:15.120 --> 0:58:17.240
<v Speaker 1>and obviously he's since become a tight, end so things have.

0:58:17.360 --> 0:58:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Changed but AGAIN i don't know that G scott's going

0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:22.200
<v Speaker 1>to make the. TEAM i still think they probably want

0:58:22.200 --> 0:58:24.080
<v Speaker 1>to blocking third tight, end especially if they're not gonna

0:58:24.080 --> 0:58:25.200
<v Speaker 1>have a, fallback which we can get.

0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:26.000
<v Speaker 3>To i'm about to get.

0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:30.480
<v Speaker 1>To but credit where credits? Do if we're everybody was,

0:58:30.480 --> 0:58:32.360
<v Speaker 1>waiting you, KNOW i keep getting, questions who's third tight,

0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:36.760
<v Speaker 1>end who's? Emerging who stepped up through seven practices from that? Group, Westover,

0:58:36.880 --> 0:58:39.919
<v Speaker 1>Bell dupre And. SCOTT i Think scott's been the best.

0:58:39.920 --> 0:58:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Guy he's been the most. Noticeable James bell had to

0:58:42.600 --> 0:58:44.960
<v Speaker 2>catch today he. Did it was the first TIME i

0:58:44.960 --> 0:58:47.400
<v Speaker 2>feel Like i've Said James bell's name are Written James

0:58:47.400 --> 0:58:48.080
<v Speaker 2>bell's name.

0:58:48.000 --> 0:58:51.560
<v Speaker 3>Down But. Scott IF i had to say who has

0:58:51.600 --> 0:58:54.400
<v Speaker 3>a merger who has flashed the, Most i'm with, YOU

0:58:54.440 --> 0:58:56.880
<v Speaker 3>i would Say. Scott AND i think, Again dobbs seems

0:58:56.880 --> 0:58:58.960
<v Speaker 3>to really like throwing, him so we get into these preseason.

0:58:59.000 --> 0:59:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Games he could be somebody that puts up some.

0:59:00.680 --> 0:59:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Numbers so you mentioned the full back and we're gonna

0:59:03.960 --> 0:59:06.360
<v Speaker 2>this is gonna get somber here for a. Second, Yeah so,

0:59:06.960 --> 0:59:08.600
<v Speaker 2>really it doesn't he get that?

0:59:08.680 --> 0:59:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Song it's. Upsetting it is, upsetting but it's not it's

0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Still it's not.

0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Forever so The patriots yesterday Plays Brock lampy on injured.

0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Reserve you, know still call Him Spencer. Larson the other

0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:23.040
<v Speaker 1>DAY i said that To Mike riso is very embarrassed

0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:25.360
<v Speaker 1>you called Him Spencer. Lars, YEAH i REMEMBER i did,

0:59:25.400 --> 0:59:27.160
<v Speaker 1>That LIKE i didn't called Make Greece Spencer, lars AND

0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:29.960
<v Speaker 1>i Called lampy, space which he's not even like the

0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:31.720
<v Speaker 1>number forty. Six BUT i did that on a show

0:59:31.960 --> 0:59:33.320
<v Speaker 1>during the off season. TOO i don't know WHY i

0:59:33.400 --> 0:59:33.760
<v Speaker 1>kept doing.

0:59:33.800 --> 0:59:36.760
<v Speaker 2>That so The patriots Plays Brock lampy on injured. Reserve

0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:37.640
<v Speaker 2>his season is.

0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Over, yes it's not the kind of ir you can

0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:42.640
<v Speaker 1>come back. From he is done for the.

0:59:42.720 --> 0:59:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Year so The patriots do not have a traditional fullback

0:59:46.120 --> 0:59:48.920
<v Speaker 2>on the roster. Anymore not to like Gloss over for

0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:51.680
<v Speaker 2>sucks For, lampy like tough, obviously, yeah because he was

0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:53.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna make the. Team he was running with the top.

0:59:53.240 --> 0:59:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Unit he was gonna make the. Team, yeah so stinks For.

0:59:55.560 --> 1:00:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Lampy but just from a moving forward, PERSPECTIVE i have

1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:03.000
<v Speaker 2>to imagine The patriots are gonna kick the tires at

1:00:03.040 --> 1:00:04.880
<v Speaker 2>some point. On some full backs Like Mike reese will

1:00:04.920 --> 1:00:07.680
<v Speaker 2>have a list of like The patriots had five guys

1:00:07.720 --> 1:00:09.400
<v Speaker 2>in for a workout and four of them will be

1:00:09.440 --> 1:00:12.320
<v Speaker 2>full backs like or something like, that right, RIGHT i

1:00:12.000 --> 1:00:16.520
<v Speaker 2>have to imagine that there's Also Hunter brosio, waivers like

1:00:16.680 --> 1:00:19.000
<v Speaker 2>in roster cut down, day and if a team decides

1:00:19.040 --> 1:00:21.919
<v Speaker 2>that they're not gonna go the full back direction with their,

1:00:21.920 --> 1:00:24.080
<v Speaker 2>offense like maybe they wave a full back or they

1:00:24.080 --> 1:00:26.439
<v Speaker 2>cut a full back and The patriots sign a full.

1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Back Maybe josh McDaniels Calls Nick casario and begs For Yakub,

1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Johnson LIKE i don't, Know LIKE i think they're gonna

1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:32.720
<v Speaker 2>pull a full back out of.

1:00:32.760 --> 1:00:34.000
<v Speaker 3>SOMEWHERE i would have to.

1:00:34.040 --> 1:00:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Imagine it's not like we're asking them to pull a

1:00:37.240 --> 1:00:40.040
<v Speaker 2>starting left tackle out of, somewhere, Right like this is

1:00:40.040 --> 1:00:42.640
<v Speaker 2>a full, back They'll it's different in, that like if

1:00:42.720 --> 1:00:44.720
<v Speaker 2>left tackle gets, hurt you have other left tackles on the,

1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:47.280
<v Speaker 2>roster and you have to have a left. Tackle it's

1:00:47.360 --> 1:00:51.280
<v Speaker 2>just hard to imagine they would go From, okay we're

1:00:51.320 --> 1:00:52.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna have a fall back and he's gonna be involves

1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:54.920
<v Speaker 2>and then one guy gets hurt and suddenly you change

1:00:54.960 --> 1:00:57.000
<v Speaker 2>the entire offense because of. It like you, said you

1:00:57.000 --> 1:00:59.720
<v Speaker 2>can find a full back that seems easier than changing

1:00:59.720 --> 1:01:03.320
<v Speaker 2>the Off SO i think, that, uh that they'll find

1:01:03.320 --> 1:01:05.560
<v Speaker 2>a full back. Elsewhere but for right, now they don't

1:01:05.560 --> 1:01:08.080
<v Speaker 2>have the full. Back but like you, said they were

1:01:08.200 --> 1:01:11.120
<v Speaker 2>using a full back up until this, point like the

1:01:11.200 --> 1:01:14.440
<v Speaker 2>full back was, Involved, yeah meaning Brock lampy was involved

1:01:14.520 --> 1:01:17.400
<v Speaker 2>up until this. Point one padded practicing out, though is

1:01:17.440 --> 1:01:19.320
<v Speaker 2>a tough bee for Brock. LAMPY i feel for him,

1:01:19.320 --> 1:01:21.800
<v Speaker 2>because like you, said he was going to make the. Team, so,

1:01:22.080 --> 1:01:23.919
<v Speaker 2>uh we're on the same page with the full. Back

1:01:24.000 --> 1:01:25.760
<v Speaker 2>they'll find a full back at some point here in

1:01:25.760 --> 1:01:28.600
<v Speaker 2>the next, MONTH i would, assume AND i still, believe

1:01:28.600 --> 1:01:29.720
<v Speaker 2>they'll have a full back on the.

1:01:29.800 --> 1:01:30.120
<v Speaker 3>Roster.

1:01:30.720 --> 1:01:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh and they'll use a full back, now could A

1:01:35.040 --> 1:01:38.480
<v Speaker 2>jack West, Over Jean bell G scott, like could they develop.

1:01:38.160 --> 1:01:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Their H they're, not that's not the guy you want

1:01:40.760 --> 1:01:42.360
<v Speaker 1>me in the lineback with.

1:01:42.400 --> 1:01:46.000
<v Speaker 3>You SO i think that they will probably sign another.

1:01:45.760 --> 1:01:47.560
<v Speaker 1>So back again IF i can make the, pitch And

1:01:47.600 --> 1:01:49.720
<v Speaker 1>i'm not entirely sure like. It sometimes it's hard to

1:01:49.720 --> 1:01:51.880
<v Speaker 1>find information on these. Guys he may have gone back to,

1:01:51.920 --> 1:01:54.800
<v Speaker 1>school but they didn't see him sign. Anywhere. Uh Hunter

1:01:54.880 --> 1:01:58.920
<v Speaker 1>brosio was not Only North Dakota state's full, back and

1:01:58.960 --> 1:02:01.320
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a school to run the damn ball. Right

1:02:01.960 --> 1:02:05.520
<v Speaker 1>not only was he there starting, fallback he was also

1:02:05.560 --> 1:02:08.320
<v Speaker 1>An All american long, Snapper so you have your, backup

1:02:08.360 --> 1:02:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you'd have your, fallback and you'd have a backup long

1:02:10.080 --> 1:02:10.760
<v Speaker 1>snapper if you need.

1:02:10.760 --> 1:02:15.000
<v Speaker 2>One so that's no comment on. That, No, OKAY i

1:02:15.000 --> 1:02:16.560
<v Speaker 2>feel like that's a good wrap on the. Offense we

1:02:17.000 --> 1:02:20.040
<v Speaker 2>have to end a little bit early, today SO i

1:02:20.040 --> 1:02:22.320
<v Speaker 2>don't want. TO i think we did a good job

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<v Speaker 2>Defense SO i said earlier THAT i was small sea

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<v Speaker 2>concerned About Morgan. MOSES i feel a little bit better after.

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<v Speaker 2>Today it's it's maybe like it's in like eight point.

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<v Speaker 2>Font now you know we're really.

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<v Speaker 1>Small, well the size of the font has nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with whether or not letters are capitalized or.

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<v Speaker 2>Not good, point good, Points BUT i try, to, LIKE

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<v Speaker 2>i here out a different way to say. It CAN

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<v Speaker 2>i say that you might be the same WAY a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit About Milton.

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<v Speaker 1>Williams, yeah, well just one aspect of his. Game SO

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<v Speaker 1>i still Think Milton. WILLIAMS i mean he's clearly, powerful,

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<v Speaker 1>explosive quick as a pass, rusher AND i think him

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<v Speaker 1>And barmore it's clearly Have Kem that's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of fun and this EXPANDS i get it's not

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<v Speaker 1>so much a concern About Milton, WILLIAMS i, guess as

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<v Speaker 1>it is their front as a, whole and it's nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>New we talked about, this. Uh part of getting quicker

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<v Speaker 1>and faster and more explosive upfront this offseason meant getting.

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<v Speaker 1>Smaller and this is a team that already struggled to

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<v Speaker 1>stop the run last. Year So Milton williams did not

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<v Speaker 1>have a great first few days in pads against the. Runs,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically it's fine pass. RUSHING i don't think he was

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<v Speaker 1>great against the. Run and it, was you, know a

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<v Speaker 1>QUESTION i, had they're going to be smaller. Now Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Kyris tonga ends up playing a bigger role THAN i

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<v Speaker 1>was expecting because it kind of looks like that based

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<v Speaker 1>on what they've, done and he's been really.

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<v Speaker 2>Good he's only done the team that he can eat

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<v Speaker 2>space like truly eat space Like barmore eats space in

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<v Speaker 2>his own. Way but if you're really talking about like

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<v Speaker 2>a space eating nose, tackle It's. Tonga he's one of.

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<v Speaker 1>One, Yeah roy's done it a little. BIT i don't

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<v Speaker 1>know he was in with the first team Because barmore was.

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<v Speaker 1>LIMITED i don't know that he ultimately makes the team

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<v Speaker 1>when it's all said and. Done BUT i just Look

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<v Speaker 1>miltwilliams playing a new role. Here he was a situational.

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<v Speaker 1>Player he was a passing down player In philly because

1:04:58.040 --> 1:05:00.000
<v Speaker 1>they had all that. Depth never played more than four

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<v Speaker 1>eight percent of the snaps in his career before coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Here him and Were able talked about that introductory press

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<v Speaker 1>Conferce he's gonna play a bigger. Role that means stopping to.

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<v Speaker 1>Run they need him to be able to stop the.

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<v Speaker 1>Run so not you, know it's just a few, days

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of time to turn, around but not a good

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<v Speaker 1>first couple of days for. HIM i thought on run.

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<v Speaker 3>Defense so your bigger picture concerned about the run defense

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<v Speaker 3>as a. Whole In Milton williams's role in that is

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<v Speaker 3>is totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Valid, Yeah i'm not overly shocked that he's not like

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<v Speaker 2>a glitzy practice player because of the style Of russier

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<v Speaker 2>that he, is Like Melon williams is a speed to power,

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<v Speaker 2>dent the pocket move the guard type of pass. Rusher,

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<v Speaker 2>Right SO i WHEN i, see, like for, instance when

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<v Speaker 2>you watch one on, Ones like the fact That Millon

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<v Speaker 2>williams isn't dominating one on ones is not a surprise

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<v Speaker 2>to me and doesn't worry me at all because it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Just not the type of pass rusher that he.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he is somebody that likes to convert speed to

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<v Speaker 2>power and he wants to go through, people and, like

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<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna see that unless he puts somebody on his,

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<v Speaker 2>Butt like you're not gonna see it right in. Drills

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<v Speaker 2>it's just not going to come to fruition the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Way AND i would also just, say LIKE i think

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<v Speaker 2>that that's a guy that plays the best when in real,

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<v Speaker 2>Games LIKE i think he's a game, player not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>a practice. Player So i'm not worried About Milon williams

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<v Speaker 2>because of. That BUT i hear what you're saying in

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<v Speaker 2>general about the defensive line and his role in the run.

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<v Speaker 2>Defense they are going to you, know he said it.

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<v Speaker 2>Today this is all about get. Off it's about your

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<v Speaker 2>first three, Steps like they want to fly up the

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<v Speaker 2>field off the ball in this. Defense so in a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of, ways and this is a deuce, Parlance i'll

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<v Speaker 2>steal it from. Him they are going to stop the

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<v Speaker 2>run on the way to the, quarterback like they are

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<v Speaker 2>going to fly off the, Ball and the hope is

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<v Speaker 2>is that when they shoot their gun that they shoot

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<v Speaker 2>it right into the running, back Right, like that's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope but if they don't and they, miss then it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a little bit. Leaky, now the one

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<v Speaker 2>guy that hopefully will prevent it from being too leaky

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<v Speaker 2>is fourteen standing behind, Them Robert, Splane, like that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be his job.

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<v Speaker 3>Is to fix.

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<v Speaker 2>It is gonna make them right and put them back

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<v Speaker 2>into plays and make sure that, those you, know leaky

1:07:04.840 --> 1:07:07.480
<v Speaker 2>moments don't turn into like fifty yard runs right, right

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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be On. Spline but at the same, TIME

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<v Speaker 2>i don't think that this is gonna be a very stout.

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<v Speaker 2>Front this is gonna be a splash play.

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<v Speaker 1>Front so, yeah and you mentioned it Being, Splaine he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a big part of. That Where i'm just

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<v Speaker 1>coming from is LIKE i assuming everybody's, healthy and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>they're a little banged up in the secondary right, Now

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<v Speaker 1>but assuming everybody's, Healthy, Gonzales, Davis doug Or Pepper's Joe Marcus,

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<v Speaker 1>jones AND i get that's an, If but assuming everybody's, healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>RIGHT i actually think they're gonna be relatively tough to

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<v Speaker 1>throw the football on between that. Secondary they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a great pass, rush but like they've got some dudes

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<v Speaker 1>up there.

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<v Speaker 3>On, yeah we'll GET i think're gonna be tough.

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<v Speaker 1>Throw the ball. On what concerns me is that if

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<v Speaker 1>that's the, case we remember what The jaguars did to

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<v Speaker 1>them last year In. London All, right we're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>run the ball seventeen times in a row and they

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<v Speaker 1>at least need to be good enough to deter. That

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<v Speaker 1>that's the baseline for.

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<v Speaker 2>Me it's fair moving to the, addressers as you just mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>him is it fair to say That Kalvon chason has

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<v Speaker 2>been the best defender In patriots training.

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<v Speaker 1>CAMP i think you could argue he's been the best

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<v Speaker 1>player on the field since The pats came. On he's

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<v Speaker 1>been saying.

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<v Speaker 3>That, YEAH i think that there's a good argument for

1:08:12.960 --> 1:08:13.240
<v Speaker 3>that as.

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<v Speaker 2>Well he's it's beyond flashing at this. Point it's like

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<v Speaker 2>he's just in the backfield every other. Play now you

1:08:20.720 --> 1:08:22.960
<v Speaker 2>could look at that, again you could look at the

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<v Speaker 2>negative side of that and, say, well who's blocking? Him

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<v Speaker 2>then you, know like what's going on with the offensive.

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<v Speaker 2>Line BUT i Think chason's just been, Great LIKE i

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<v Speaker 2>think he's just been, explosive and he's you, know fits

1:08:33.080 --> 1:08:35.479
<v Speaker 2>this scheme really well and he looks at home in.

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<v Speaker 2>It you, know this is a guy who's a former

1:08:37.439 --> 1:08:39.559
<v Speaker 2>first round. Pick AND i went through it this morning

1:08:39.600 --> 1:08:42.400
<v Speaker 2>BECAUSE i was trying to jog my memory of his.

1:08:42.520 --> 1:08:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Career he was drafted by The jaguars in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>in the first. Round that Was Doug morons last. Year

1:08:48.520 --> 1:08:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Doug maroons here, now So i'll be gentle with What

1:08:51.320 --> 1:08:53.880
<v Speaker 2>i'm about to. Say they won one. Game let's just

1:08:53.920 --> 1:08:56.040
<v Speaker 2>stick to the. Facts they won one. Game it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a good. Season the next year Was Trevor lawrence's rookie.

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<v Speaker 2>Year it was The myer year In, jacksonville train, wreck

1:09:02.760 --> 1:09:06.000
<v Speaker 2>right for the entire. Organization then he played on Some

1:09:06.040 --> 1:09:08.479
<v Speaker 2>Doug peterson. Teams he goes To carolina for a. Year

1:09:08.560 --> 1:09:11.160
<v Speaker 2>then he goes last year To vegas where he had

1:09:12.040 --> 1:09:14.760
<v Speaker 2>like a josh U ja type season right where, like,

1:09:15.800 --> 1:09:18.559
<v Speaker 2>yeah he's playing Opposite Max, crosby takes advantage of some,

1:09:18.600 --> 1:09:21.519
<v Speaker 2>matchups he racks up from, sacks things like. That but

1:09:21.680 --> 1:09:25.840
<v Speaker 2>there's still a first round talent in there, somewhere and

1:09:26.160 --> 1:09:27.920
<v Speaker 2>it is there a Chance And i'm not saying he's

1:09:27.920 --> 1:09:30.080
<v Speaker 2>going to turn into like a three down game, wrecker

1:09:30.240 --> 1:09:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Like i'm keeping it within reason, here but is there

1:09:33.160 --> 1:09:35.360
<v Speaker 2>a chance that he's like a really really good player

1:09:35.400 --> 1:09:39.760
<v Speaker 2>in his role With BIG, t With Terrell, williams With Mike,

1:09:39.880 --> 1:09:42.479
<v Speaker 2>rabel with a scheme that fits, him with the coaching

1:09:42.520 --> 1:09:44.920
<v Speaker 2>staff that knows what it's. Doing, Like i'm just saying

1:09:44.960 --> 1:09:48.439
<v Speaker 2>that he hasn't had the easiest road in THE nfl

1:09:48.479 --> 1:09:50.000
<v Speaker 2>to this. Point he hasn't been on the best, teams

1:09:50.000 --> 1:09:52.400
<v Speaker 2>and he hasn't had the easiest. Road so maybe at

1:09:52.400 --> 1:09:56.360
<v Speaker 2>this Point Calebon chason can kind of find himself in

1:09:56.439 --> 1:09:59.519
<v Speaker 2>THE nfl with The patriots because he's just looked, Terrific

1:09:59.560 --> 1:10:00.719
<v Speaker 2>like there's no other, way.

1:10:00.760 --> 1:10:02.960
<v Speaker 1>And this is the coaching staff that's had success kind

1:10:02.960 --> 1:10:04.680
<v Speaker 1>of turning these guys. Around he's still, Young he've an

1:10:04.760 --> 1:10:06.559
<v Speaker 1>he's been in the leagues in twenty. Twenty he's only twenty,

1:10:06.600 --> 1:10:11.839
<v Speaker 1>Six SO i don't know that they Found Miles garrett

1:10:12.600 --> 1:10:15.080
<v Speaker 1>out of, nowhere but, yeah if he can be a

1:10:15.080 --> 1:10:17.120
<v Speaker 1>more productive pass rusher and kind of play up a

1:10:17.160 --> 1:10:19.720
<v Speaker 1>little closer to that. Traffic it'd be. GREAT i think

1:10:19.720 --> 1:10:22.559
<v Speaker 1>there is some Josh uche there where it's gonna come

1:10:22.600 --> 1:10:24.680
<v Speaker 1>in spurts and you look at the flashes and you,

1:10:24.720 --> 1:10:27.000
<v Speaker 1>say how real is? This like let's say he had

1:10:27.000 --> 1:10:30.960
<v Speaker 1>like a twelve sax, season, right how quickly are people

1:10:31.000 --> 1:10:33.840
<v Speaker 1>going to start talking About Mark anderson and THAT i

1:10:33.840 --> 1:10:34.479
<v Speaker 1>would Take Mark.

1:10:34.520 --> 1:10:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Anderson he's absolutely so weird that you just said, that

1:10:37.200 --> 1:10:39.080
<v Speaker 2>because the first name that came to my mind WHEN

1:10:39.120 --> 1:10:41.840
<v Speaker 2>i was like doing some research On chase on this

1:10:41.880 --> 1:10:44.679
<v Speaker 2>morning was, like is he gonna be like A Andre

1:10:44.800 --> 1:10:47.439
<v Speaker 2>Carter Mark anderson, type right that like comes to The

1:10:47.439 --> 1:10:49.000
<v Speaker 2>patriots for a year and has DOUBLE?

1:10:49.000 --> 1:10:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Digitsudt it Was Mark anderson had twelve sacks as a.

1:10:51.760 --> 1:10:54.439
<v Speaker 2>Rookie, yeah Like Mark anderson, Had is the exact comp

1:10:54.479 --> 1:10:56.120
<v Speaker 2>THAT i was thinking, of like the exact kind of

1:10:56.160 --> 1:10:56.840
<v Speaker 2>player like?

1:10:56.920 --> 1:10:59.519
<v Speaker 1>Everything, yeah, no if He BUT i would take A

1:10:59.520 --> 1:11:01.439
<v Speaker 1>Mark anderson in year just let The bills be the

1:11:01.439 --> 1:11:03.760
<v Speaker 1>ones to pay him after, Again BUT i would take

1:11:03.760 --> 1:11:04.519
<v Speaker 1>A Mark anderson.

1:11:04.600 --> 1:11:07.240
<v Speaker 2>Here but the point being With chase on AND i

1:11:07.280 --> 1:11:09.040
<v Speaker 2>had the same point With landry in terms of The

1:11:09.040 --> 1:11:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Mark anderson, stuff like If Keon white In barmore And

1:11:14.439 --> 1:11:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Milon williams are moving the quarterback off the spot because

1:11:17.280 --> 1:11:19.960
<v Speaker 2>they're just disrupting and they're just wrecking stuff in the

1:11:20.000 --> 1:11:23.880
<v Speaker 2>interior and bodies are flying. Around we've talked about they

1:11:23.920 --> 1:11:26.559
<v Speaker 2>need somebody to, finish, Right they needed somebody that's actually

1:11:26.560 --> 1:11:28.880
<v Speaker 2>going to get the quarterback on the. Ground and there's

1:11:28.960 --> 1:11:30.920
<v Speaker 2>NO i have no reason to believe that that can't be.

1:11:30.960 --> 1:11:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Chasing, YEAH i think he can be a. Finisher it's

1:11:32.600 --> 1:11:35.080
<v Speaker 1>been encouraging. Storry then the real next test for him

1:11:35.120 --> 1:11:38.400
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be those joint, Practices like let's, See i'm

1:11:38.439 --> 1:11:41.240
<v Speaker 1>not exactly putting in the ticket for Calebon chase On

1:11:41.280 --> 1:11:43.879
<v Speaker 1>Defensive player of The year just, yet but it's.

1:11:43.720 --> 1:11:45.400
<v Speaker 3>Been can you clean? Up that's?

1:11:45.439 --> 1:11:47.360
<v Speaker 1>It you, know of all their free agent, signings that

1:11:47.439 --> 1:11:49.320
<v Speaker 1>was not a guy that was like particularly high on

1:11:49.360 --> 1:11:51.679
<v Speaker 1>my radar of, like, oh you, know maybe potential breakout

1:11:51.720 --> 1:11:54.000
<v Speaker 1>guy could be a. Steal not THAT i thought he's gonna.

1:11:54.040 --> 1:11:56.439
<v Speaker 1>SUCK i just he. Wasn't he kind of flew under

1:11:56.439 --> 1:11:59.240
<v Speaker 1>the radar there in free. Agency he's been their best

1:11:59.240 --> 1:12:01.559
<v Speaker 1>free agent edition so far in camp Maybe Robert. Splane

1:12:01.560 --> 1:12:04.679
<v Speaker 1>he's also been really, good just not by the nature

1:12:04.680 --> 1:12:06.840
<v Speaker 1>of his, position not the same number of impact plays

1:12:06.840 --> 1:12:10.640
<v Speaker 1>because the way they play in. Practice but, boy if

1:12:10.640 --> 1:12:11.760
<v Speaker 1>he's a fine that changes a.

1:12:11.800 --> 1:12:14.479
<v Speaker 2>Lot it's just if he's the fourth guy like you

1:12:14.520 --> 1:12:17.400
<v Speaker 2>said about you know oocha and those types of, comps

1:12:17.400 --> 1:12:20.559
<v Speaker 2>like if you have to worry About Milon, williams you

1:12:20.560 --> 1:12:22.679
<v Speaker 2>have to worry About, barmore you have to worry About Keon.

1:12:22.760 --> 1:12:24.920
<v Speaker 2>White if those guys are worth worrying, about right those.

1:12:24.960 --> 1:12:26.960
<v Speaker 2>ARE i don't know if like all three of them

1:12:27.000 --> 1:12:30.120
<v Speaker 2>will Be tuesday players, truly but like they're their. Guys

1:12:30.360 --> 1:12:33.519
<v Speaker 2>teams are scouting and having plans for that leaves. It you,

1:12:33.520 --> 1:12:36.000
<v Speaker 2>know we've talked About landry in that role as well.

1:12:36.040 --> 1:12:39.599
<v Speaker 2>Before but that fourth, rusher you, know whether It's chason

1:12:39.760 --> 1:12:42.320
<v Speaker 2>or It's, Landry like that guy is gonna just see

1:12:42.320 --> 1:12:45.200
<v Speaker 2>one on ones on the back side of the formation all,

1:12:45.320 --> 1:12:47.760
<v Speaker 2>day every, Day Like chaison's is gonna get a one

1:12:47.840 --> 1:12:50.320
<v Speaker 2>on one against the tackle and if he wins his

1:12:50.320 --> 1:12:51.920
<v Speaker 2>one on, one then he's gonna get a bunch of.

1:12:51.960 --> 1:12:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Sacks like that's just the nature of the beast, there

1:12:54.800 --> 1:12:56.640
<v Speaker 2>AND i don't have any reason to believe that he

1:12:56.680 --> 1:13:00.000
<v Speaker 2>can't do. That so he's been incite. Exciting he's been

1:13:00.080 --> 1:13:01.519
<v Speaker 2>one of the best players on the, field like you,

1:13:01.520 --> 1:13:05.960
<v Speaker 2>said for The patriots through seven. PRACTICES i initially wrote

1:13:06.000 --> 1:13:08.120
<v Speaker 2>That swinson's been, quiet but he had the one on one,

1:13:08.520 --> 1:13:11.200
<v Speaker 2>today so credit to him. THERE i actually Think Elijah

1:13:11.240 --> 1:13:14.439
<v Speaker 2>ponders had some flashes and one on The, yeah he's

1:13:14.439 --> 1:13:17.280
<v Speaker 2>been doing well on. That so those two, Rookies, uh

1:13:17.600 --> 1:13:20.639
<v Speaker 2>coming on a little bit. Here swinston's been quiet up until,

1:13:20.640 --> 1:13:22.880
<v Speaker 2>today BUT i thought today was one of his better

1:13:23.000 --> 1:13:24.160
<v Speaker 2>days at.

1:13:24.240 --> 1:13:25.519
<v Speaker 3>LINEBACKER i, mean there's not.

1:13:25.439 --> 1:13:27.519
<v Speaker 2>A ton to say other than you, KNOW i Think

1:13:27.600 --> 1:13:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Robert splaine is obviously locked. IN i Think Christian ellis

1:13:30.320 --> 1:13:32.479
<v Speaker 2>is pretty locked into the spot next to him at this.

1:13:32.600 --> 1:13:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Point If Gilyant devi is not out, there he's on

1:13:34.920 --> 1:13:39.040
<v Speaker 2>the pup, list so that that's a. Factor but maybe

1:13:39.040 --> 1:13:41.519
<v Speaker 2>we hear a little bit From Jack gibbons as well

1:13:41.760 --> 1:13:46.040
<v Speaker 2>as like, where yeah.

1:13:47.320 --> 1:13:49.840
<v Speaker 1>He's at the, screen Yeah. LARUS i mean he got

1:13:49.840 --> 1:13:52.920
<v Speaker 1>to the. Ball he got he got To larison before

1:13:52.920 --> 1:13:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the ball did From dobbs like he read. It, so,

1:13:55.320 --> 1:13:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Uh Lane, larrison just to, Backtrack Land larrison caught his

1:13:58.800 --> 1:14:00.840
<v Speaker 1>first pass From drake main teams. Today there you. GO

1:14:00.880 --> 1:14:01.960
<v Speaker 1>i don't know if you put any weight in. That

1:14:02.120 --> 1:14:03.080
<v Speaker 1>but that, Happened that did.

1:14:03.080 --> 1:14:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Happen it was a nice little screen too good blocking

1:14:06.040 --> 1:14:06.799
<v Speaker 2>Hunter henry.

1:14:06.560 --> 1:14:09.879
<v Speaker 1>AND I i did a LITTLE udfa checking in my notebook.

1:14:09.880 --> 1:14:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Today very, nice uh.

1:14:14.040 --> 1:14:16.599
<v Speaker 2>Aside from like the occasional one like the one today

1:14:16.600 --> 1:14:19.719
<v Speaker 2>For laris and just quick, ASIDE i think the least

1:14:19.720 --> 1:14:23.080
<v Speaker 2>successful plays in practices of screens LIKE i feel like.

1:14:23.080 --> 1:14:25.599
<v Speaker 3>The defense never, bites the defense never.

1:14:25.680 --> 1:14:27.439
<v Speaker 1>Cares there's no reason of biting this.

1:14:27.439 --> 1:14:30.639
<v Speaker 2>Right there's no reason to bite in the setting is exactly.

1:14:30.720 --> 1:14:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Right and The patriots obviously want to have the screen

1:14:33.040 --> 1:14:34.960
<v Speaker 2>game be a big part of the. Offense i'm not anti.

1:14:35.000 --> 1:14:37.639
<v Speaker 2>Screen some people are anti. Screen i'm not anti. SCREEN

1:14:37.680 --> 1:14:39.720
<v Speaker 2>i think a lot of really good teams. Screen you,

1:14:39.760 --> 1:14:42.440
<v Speaker 2>know The eagles and The chiefs said The, chiefs Especially

1:14:43.000 --> 1:14:45.479
<v Speaker 2>Andy reid is like a screen game, wizard, Right he's.

1:14:45.320 --> 1:14:46.240
<v Speaker 1>Probably the best at.

1:14:46.280 --> 1:14:48.439
<v Speaker 2>It The chiefs are always near the top of the

1:14:48.479 --> 1:14:51.360
<v Speaker 2>league in screen usage and there if it's good enough

1:14:51.360 --> 1:14:53.320
<v Speaker 2>for The, chiefs and it's good enough for everybody in my,

1:14:53.439 --> 1:14:55.280
<v Speaker 2>mind BUT i feel like they never work.

1:14:55.160 --> 1:14:57.719
<v Speaker 1>In but they're not not working because they're designed. Poorly

1:14:57.720 --> 1:14:58.719
<v Speaker 1>they're not working its.

1:14:59.000 --> 1:15:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Work the defense doesn't bite on, him.

1:15:00.840 --> 1:15:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Right because there's no reason. To you don't want to

1:15:03.200 --> 1:15:07.040
<v Speaker 1>get caught out of position to, like there's no upside to.

1:15:07.400 --> 1:15:07.439
<v Speaker 4>Not.

1:15:07.720 --> 1:15:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:15:08.000 --> 1:15:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah so at, corner we know That Christian gonzales And

1:15:11.760 --> 1:15:15.599
<v Speaker 2>Carlton davis are missing in and out of, practice maintenance

1:15:15.680 --> 1:15:17.720
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to call. It For Carlton davis And

1:15:17.760 --> 1:15:22.880
<v Speaker 2>gonzales reportedly has the. Hamstring my concern level For Christian

1:15:22.840 --> 1:15:26.320
<v Speaker 2>gonzalez is less than. ZERO i am absolutely not worried

1:15:26.320 --> 1:15:30.240
<v Speaker 2>about his hamstring injury at. All, uh as far As i'm,

1:15:30.240 --> 1:15:32.639
<v Speaker 2>concerned And i'll continue to SAY i said this yesterday

1:15:32.640 --> 1:15:35.320
<v Speaker 2>ON PU i will See Christian gonzales week one Against

1:15:35.400 --> 1:15:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Las Vegas, raiders AND i do not care if he

1:15:37.400 --> 1:15:38.600
<v Speaker 2>practices one more time in the.

1:15:38.600 --> 1:15:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Summer, yeah they can take their.

1:15:41.400 --> 1:15:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Time, Yeah i'll see it against.

1:15:43.680 --> 1:15:45.439
<v Speaker 1>The keep that same energy With Jason.

1:15:45.439 --> 1:15:47.479
<v Speaker 3>Tatum, uh that's.

1:15:47.520 --> 1:15:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Different, no it's. Not, no it's really. Not it's.

1:15:49.920 --> 1:15:51.880
<v Speaker 3>Different it's basketball against. Football it's totally.

1:15:51.880 --> 1:15:54.559
<v Speaker 1>Different it's it's the star, player it's the best player

1:15:54.600 --> 1:15:55.880
<v Speaker 1>on the, team it's the guy wearing number.

1:15:55.960 --> 1:15:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Zero BUT i said that he can't miss any regular

1:15:59.280 --> 1:16:01.479
<v Speaker 2>season games if he starts to miss regular season games

1:16:01.520 --> 1:16:02.639
<v Speaker 2>also have to be worried about.

1:16:02.680 --> 1:16:04.040
<v Speaker 3>It For Christian, Gonzalez i'm.

1:16:03.880 --> 1:16:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Just, saying keep that, patience keep that patience.

1:16:05.840 --> 1:16:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Out Jason, Tatim but more importantly from a camp, perspective

1:16:10.400 --> 1:16:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Because gonzales And davis have been, out which is an, Ideal,

1:16:13.360 --> 1:16:15.400
<v Speaker 2>like no one's saying that that's what they want to,

1:16:15.479 --> 1:16:18.639
<v Speaker 2>happen but we have seen opportunities from the depth corners

1:16:18.640 --> 1:16:20.640
<v Speaker 2>and we're starting to figure out this depth chart and

1:16:21.400 --> 1:16:24.759
<v Speaker 2>cipher through. This So, Alex, Austin, Marcella's dial AND Dj

1:16:24.840 --> 1:16:28.479
<v Speaker 2>james are obviously the guys that are benefiting the most from.

1:16:28.520 --> 1:16:31.360
<v Speaker 3>This what have you seen from those? Three, like who

1:16:31.400 --> 1:16:32.960
<v Speaker 3>have you liked the most out of that?

1:16:33.040 --> 1:16:35.640
<v Speaker 1>GROUP i Mean AUSTIN'S i think the third, Guy like

1:16:35.720 --> 1:16:38.559
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty, clear and he's been good to another couple

1:16:38.560 --> 1:16:43.280
<v Speaker 1>of pass breakups. TODAY Dj james been. IMPRESSIVE Dj james

1:16:43.280 --> 1:16:45.280
<v Speaker 1>has just shown up and he seems like he makes

1:16:45.280 --> 1:16:47.800
<v Speaker 1>a player two every. DAY i think he's been the

1:16:47.800 --> 1:16:50.080
<v Speaker 1>better of the two Than. Dial, Now die was a

1:16:50.160 --> 1:16:53.240
<v Speaker 1>core special teamer for them last, year so you have

1:16:53.320 --> 1:16:55.599
<v Speaker 1>to factor that in in terms of Can james replace

1:16:55.640 --> 1:16:57.320
<v Speaker 1>him in that? Role because somebody else replacement that role

1:16:57.360 --> 1:16:59.360
<v Speaker 1>and want to keep them for special. Teams maybe they

1:16:59.360 --> 1:17:03.479
<v Speaker 1>can keep bold excuse, me depending on how the rest

1:17:03.479 --> 1:17:05.640
<v Speaker 1>of the roster shakes. Out but he's been. GOOD i

1:17:05.640 --> 1:17:08.000
<v Speaker 1>am a little surprised you haven't seen More Isaiah, bolden

1:17:08.160 --> 1:17:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Like i'd like him to Get it's in what is

1:17:09.960 --> 1:17:11.760
<v Speaker 1>his three years? Now of can we see some more

1:17:11.760 --> 1:17:15.320
<v Speaker 1>From Isaiah? Bolden and they haven't done a ton of

1:17:15.360 --> 1:17:17.080
<v Speaker 1>kick RETURN i don't think he's really done much when

1:17:17.080 --> 1:17:19.760
<v Speaker 1>they have done kick return, Stuff so he might be

1:17:19.800 --> 1:17:21.960
<v Speaker 1>on the outside looking. In But i've been impressed WITH Dj,

1:17:22.040 --> 1:17:22.800
<v Speaker 1>James SO D.

1:17:22.920 --> 1:17:25.040
<v Speaker 3>J james have been, active you, know lock pass.

1:17:25.080 --> 1:17:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Breakups MARCELLO'S i don't know If marcelli's dial is the

1:17:28.840 --> 1:17:31.360
<v Speaker 2>best outside corner in terms of coverage, Ability LIKE i

1:17:31.400 --> 1:17:33.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know if he's a true cover, corner BUT i

1:17:33.880 --> 1:17:36.479
<v Speaker 2>do like his, physicality AND i like his play, demeanor

1:17:36.520 --> 1:17:39.120
<v Speaker 2>AND i like his, speed AND i like his tackling.

1:17:39.160 --> 1:17:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Ability Is marcella's dial maybe more like a nickel safety

1:17:44.560 --> 1:17:47.760
<v Speaker 2>at this level than like an outside boundary corner like

1:17:47.840 --> 1:17:49.840
<v Speaker 2>it plays in the slot plays maybe a little bit of.

1:17:49.840 --> 1:17:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Safety he made some plays on the first day at

1:17:52.400 --> 1:17:54.920
<v Speaker 2>pads against the, run that like really stood, out, like,

1:17:55.080 --> 1:17:59.560
<v Speaker 2>yeah firing, downhill you, know filling, gaps filling you, know

1:17:59.680 --> 1:18:02.439
<v Speaker 2>whole going through wide receivers who are trying to block

1:18:02.520 --> 1:18:04.320
<v Speaker 2>him and just going right through him to the. Football

1:18:04.640 --> 1:18:06.840
<v Speaker 2>SO i wonder If Marcella's, dial BECAUSE i don't think

1:18:06.840 --> 1:18:09.040
<v Speaker 2>he's the. BEST i don't think he's the best cover,

1:18:09.120 --> 1:18:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Corner LIKE i when he has to turn his back

1:18:11.080 --> 1:18:13.360
<v Speaker 2>to the quarterback and really run with the receiver down the,

1:18:13.360 --> 1:18:16.519
<v Speaker 2>Field i'm not sure that that's where he's more most.

1:18:16.520 --> 1:18:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Comfortable but if he plays that nickel spot and he

1:18:19.720 --> 1:18:21.760
<v Speaker 2>can play the, run he can be strong, side you,

1:18:21.800 --> 1:18:24.680
<v Speaker 2>know edge, setter second force defender against the, run and

1:18:24.720 --> 1:18:26.880
<v Speaker 2>then you also have him and maybe cover some tight

1:18:26.960 --> 1:18:29.559
<v Speaker 2>ends which might be easier for, him you, know do

1:18:29.680 --> 1:18:32.240
<v Speaker 2>some zone drops and things like. That like maybe that's

1:18:32.240 --> 1:18:35.679
<v Speaker 2>a role For marcello's don because his physicality.

1:18:34.960 --> 1:18:38.360
<v Speaker 3>And his tackling is is. Noticeable he's really good in.

1:18:38.360 --> 1:18:40.479
<v Speaker 2>That you see on special, teams, right you see it

1:18:40.560 --> 1:18:43.479
<v Speaker 2>in special. Teams SO i would Say, Dial BUT i

1:18:43.720 --> 1:18:46.400
<v Speaker 2>understand why you picked Out james, There and it's also

1:18:46.439 --> 1:18:48.000
<v Speaker 2>just Something i've been thinking about. It we don't have

1:18:48.160 --> 1:18:50.719
<v Speaker 2>enough time for it, today but it's something to unpack

1:18:50.880 --> 1:18:53.000
<v Speaker 2>in the, future just like how they're going to cover

1:18:53.080 --> 1:18:56.719
<v Speaker 2>tight ends in, General i'm just not one hundred percent sure,

1:18:57.200 --> 1:18:59.200
<v Speaker 2>about AND i don't know of dial factors into that

1:18:59.360 --> 1:19:02.720
<v Speaker 2>we'll see at. SAFETY i just think the biggest thing

1:19:02.800 --> 1:19:05.800
<v Speaker 2>to take away from safety is the hunt for a

1:19:05.920 --> 1:19:08.840
<v Speaker 2>third safety is, on like they're trying to find the

1:19:08.960 --> 1:19:12.040
<v Speaker 2>right combination back. There AND i would even go as

1:19:12.040 --> 1:19:13.880
<v Speaker 2>far to say at, times like it might mean That

1:19:13.960 --> 1:19:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Kyle dugger And Jabil peppers aren't on the field together

1:19:16.280 --> 1:19:19.320
<v Speaker 2>all the. Time that could be a case where if

1:19:19.360 --> 1:19:21.160
<v Speaker 2>they want to get three corners on the field and

1:19:21.160 --> 1:19:23.360
<v Speaker 2>they want to be like a true three Corner nickel

1:19:23.439 --> 1:19:25.479
<v Speaker 2>or even like a four corner dime or something like,

1:19:25.520 --> 1:19:29.040
<v Speaker 2>that like they might play one of these more free

1:19:29.040 --> 1:19:32.160
<v Speaker 2>safety body types like An EPs Or hawkins Or woodson

1:19:32.680 --> 1:19:35.040
<v Speaker 2>With dugger Or peppers and take one of those guys

1:19:35.040 --> 1:19:37.160
<v Speaker 2>off the. Field LIKE i don't think it's a guarantee

1:19:37.600 --> 1:19:39.240
<v Speaker 2>that the two of them are gonna just be on

1:19:39.280 --> 1:19:42.000
<v Speaker 2>the field all the, Time so we'll see where that.

1:19:42.080 --> 1:19:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Goes but the third safety is clearly something they're looking,

1:19:45.320 --> 1:19:47.880
<v Speaker 2>for like they're trying to figure out their best combination back.

1:19:47.880 --> 1:19:50.439
<v Speaker 1>There, YEAH i, Mean hawkins seems to be squarely in the.

1:19:50.479 --> 1:19:53.120
<v Speaker 1>MIX i feel like we've seen less Of Marcus EPs

1:19:53.120 --> 1:19:55.320
<v Speaker 1>after the first couple of. Days maybe that's because he's

1:19:55.320 --> 1:19:57.439
<v Speaker 1>still recovering from THE acl and the pads coming on

1:19:57.600 --> 1:20:02.600
<v Speaker 1>and all THAT i had. Cited Maybe Craig woodson is

1:20:02.640 --> 1:20:05.519
<v Speaker 1>that that tight end stop or he's kind of dropped

1:20:05.520 --> 1:20:08.200
<v Speaker 1>off after he had a strong. Spring, so, yeah the

1:20:08.200 --> 1:20:10.600
<v Speaker 1>search for that guy. Continues, YEAH i don't know if

1:20:10.600 --> 1:20:12.760
<v Speaker 1>they have that. Guy, yeah they might not have.

1:20:12.840 --> 1:20:13.559
<v Speaker 3>It they might not have.

1:20:13.600 --> 1:20:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Him BUT i have noticed quite a few times, that

1:20:17.400 --> 1:20:21.920
<v Speaker 2>especially if they're doing like third, down when they're repping third,

1:20:21.960 --> 1:20:25.360
<v Speaker 2>down That peppers And dugger haven't always been out there.

1:20:25.400 --> 1:20:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Together like it's sometimes it's Been, epp sometimes it's Been,

1:20:28.280 --> 1:20:30.880
<v Speaker 2>woodson like it's been another guy that they're trying to

1:20:30.880 --> 1:20:33.880
<v Speaker 2>get into their safety involved. There All, right to wrap this,

1:20:34.000 --> 1:20:37.439
<v Speaker 2>up it's your time to. Shine, Yep i'm Gonna i'm

1:20:37.439 --> 1:20:40.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna hand the ball over to. You the ball is

1:20:40.600 --> 1:20:43.559
<v Speaker 2>now in your. Court tell me about The, kickers because

1:20:43.560 --> 1:20:47.679
<v Speaker 2>my one question about The. Kickers, yeah Has Parker romo

1:20:48.320 --> 1:20:52.120
<v Speaker 2>just take away that they Drafted borgolas and all that.

1:20:52.160 --> 1:20:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Stuff if you take away all the, context Has Parker

1:20:55.360 --> 1:20:58.400
<v Speaker 2>romo Outperformed Andy burgalas to this, Point.

1:20:58.600 --> 1:21:00.880
<v Speaker 1>YEAH i mean by a slim. Margin, well so are

1:21:00.880 --> 1:21:03.160
<v Speaker 1>we concluding the spring or? Not if we include the,

1:21:03.160 --> 1:21:06.280
<v Speaker 1>SPRING i still Think borgolis is. Ahead romo has been

1:21:06.320 --> 1:21:08.760
<v Speaker 1>slightly better in. CAMP i think it's pretty much. Even.

1:21:08.960 --> 1:21:11.840
<v Speaker 1>OKAY i think not including the draft and tie is

1:21:11.840 --> 1:21:13.599
<v Speaker 1>going to go to the draft pick, right, Correct so

1:21:14.280 --> 1:21:16.720
<v Speaker 1>not including the draft pick factor and, EVERYTHING i would

1:21:16.720 --> 1:21:19.240
<v Speaker 1>say going back to the, spring it's a. Tie. OKAY

1:21:20.040 --> 1:21:23.240
<v Speaker 1>i do think it's interesting that After borgolis struggled with them,

1:21:23.280 --> 1:21:26.280
<v Speaker 1>alternating they went to two. Days, Okay romo's gonna kick

1:21:26.320 --> 1:21:28.599
<v Speaker 1>six and that's, it and Then borgolis is gonna kick

1:21:28.600 --> 1:21:31.080
<v Speaker 1>six and that's. It and then they went back to alternating.

1:21:31.080 --> 1:21:33.479
<v Speaker 1>Today so a little bit of a. Reset the end

1:21:33.520 --> 1:21:36.640
<v Speaker 1>stadium On friday is obviously a, big big one for.

1:21:36.680 --> 1:21:39.960
<v Speaker 1>THIS i Asked Bryce baringer about That Quinn nordin the

1:21:40.040 --> 1:21:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Quin it's where were you Moment Quinn nordin's nine for

1:21:43.040 --> 1:21:45.680
<v Speaker 1>nine in the end stadium. Practice we also remember where we.

1:21:45.680 --> 1:21:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Were we're gonna name A Quinn ordine award on the

1:21:48.360 --> 1:21:50.960
<v Speaker 2>show next. Week that's gonna be whoever won the in

1:21:51.040 --> 1:21:52.040
<v Speaker 2>stadium practice for the.

1:21:52.120 --> 1:21:56.559
<v Speaker 1>Kickers that might just be the annual The Quinn ordine.

1:21:56.560 --> 1:22:01.519
<v Speaker 1>Winner but, yeah, no it's. BEEN i think that the

1:22:01.640 --> 1:22:04.439
<v Speaker 1>other factor in this that you have to mention IS

1:22:04.840 --> 1:22:07.240
<v Speaker 1>i think That Julian ashby And Bryce beringer are still

1:22:07.240 --> 1:22:10.000
<v Speaker 1>building some chemistry as the snapper and. Holder punt snaps

1:22:10.000 --> 1:22:11.880
<v Speaker 1>have been, fine the field goal snaps are still. There

1:22:12.080 --> 1:22:15.599
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been any truly bad, snaps but there's still some

1:22:15.640 --> 1:22:17.760
<v Speaker 1>where you, Know berenger's reaching a little bit to get

1:22:17.760 --> 1:22:20.400
<v Speaker 1>it down and that can impact. It so the operation

1:22:20.520 --> 1:22:23.519
<v Speaker 1>as a whole is still coming. Together BUT i think

1:22:23.520 --> 1:22:26.000
<v Speaker 1>it's relatively neck. Connect but Again ty goes to the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Picks so IF i had a pick, today It's. PORGALIS

1:22:27.920 --> 1:22:29.760
<v Speaker 1>i Think porgallis is going to have that kind of

1:22:29.760 --> 1:22:33.000
<v Speaker 1>slight built in. Advantage but we thought it was over

1:22:33.040 --> 1:22:35.400
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the, spring, right And romo's come

1:22:35.439 --> 1:22:36.599
<v Speaker 1>back and he's had a great hand of the thing

1:22:36.600 --> 1:22:38.960
<v Speaker 1>About romo is the way he hits the. BALL i,

1:22:39.000 --> 1:22:41.519
<v Speaker 1>mean even when he's hitting from forty, five he's not

1:22:41.760 --> 1:22:44.400
<v Speaker 1>just getting over the crossbar it's not lightly tapping that

1:22:44.400 --> 1:22:46.960
<v Speaker 1>field goal, net, Right he's hammering the crap out of the,

1:22:47.000 --> 1:22:49.080
<v Speaker 1>ball and that conna be good and. Bad. Right it

1:22:49.120 --> 1:22:51.600
<v Speaker 1>obviously helps you in, weather it helps you in, wind

1:22:51.640 --> 1:22:54.720
<v Speaker 1>you stick to your. Trajectory but those, guys when you

1:22:54.800 --> 1:22:57.880
<v Speaker 1>kick that, hard your mechanics really have to be down

1:22:57.880 --> 1:23:00.479
<v Speaker 1>because any minor issue in the mechanics is going to

1:23:00.520 --> 1:23:03.360
<v Speaker 1>be you, know, uh it's gonna have more of an

1:23:03.400 --> 1:23:06.200
<v Speaker 1>effect if you have a mistake because you're swinging so.

1:23:06.240 --> 1:23:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Hard so that's About. Romo borgalis had that rough first.

1:23:10.000 --> 1:23:12.479
<v Speaker 1>Day he's been good since you see him bounce.

1:23:12.560 --> 1:23:14.600
<v Speaker 3>Back what do you make of? Him is something that

1:23:14.600 --> 1:23:15.000
<v Speaker 3>we've talked.

1:23:15.000 --> 1:23:15.679
<v Speaker 1>About yeah'm.

1:23:15.720 --> 1:23:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Puh we've noticed that Sometimes borgalis's kicks are not in

1:23:20.320 --> 1:23:22.160
<v Speaker 2>like they're not going end over. It, yeah they're kind

1:23:22.200 --> 1:23:24.519
<v Speaker 2>of they're. Knuckleballs what do you make of?

1:23:24.560 --> 1:23:27.960
<v Speaker 1>That if they go through ultimately it doesn't. Matter he's

1:23:28.000 --> 1:23:30.240
<v Speaker 1>had a couple so the ones going back to the,

1:23:30.240 --> 1:23:32.840
<v Speaker 1>spring like he had a mishit where it was still

1:23:32.840 --> 1:23:34.559
<v Speaker 1>good but it just didn't hit his foot, right WHICH

1:23:34.600 --> 1:23:36.320
<v Speaker 1>i think when you can mishit, it it still goes.

1:23:36.360 --> 1:23:39.799
<v Speaker 1>Through that to the opposite that speaks to how strong

1:23:39.840 --> 1:23:43.000
<v Speaker 1>your mechanics are that even if one thing's a little bit,

1:23:43.040 --> 1:23:44.920
<v Speaker 1>off the rest of it's still tied together and you're

1:23:44.960 --> 1:23:47.960
<v Speaker 1>in good. SHAPE i think that's just a consistency. Thing

1:23:48.200 --> 1:23:49.960
<v Speaker 1>they might be working on his form a little, bit

1:23:50.040 --> 1:23:53.280
<v Speaker 1>so that's why that's. Happening Like, romo if they were

1:23:53.320 --> 1:23:54.960
<v Speaker 1>going to tweak his, form they probably did it last

1:23:55.000 --> 1:23:56.680
<v Speaker 1>year when he was here on the practice. Squad it's

1:23:56.720 --> 1:23:59.200
<v Speaker 1>not something they'd be working, ON i would think heavily right.

1:23:59.240 --> 1:24:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Now call us obviously that's another. Story so as long

1:24:02.400 --> 1:24:04.080
<v Speaker 1>as they're going, through it's not a big. Issue but

1:24:04.120 --> 1:24:06.360
<v Speaker 1>it does tell you that there's something he's maybe working on.

1:24:06.439 --> 1:24:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Mechanically so you feel, like as of right now that

1:24:09.760 --> 1:24:11.960
<v Speaker 2>it's close enough that the tie goes to the draft.

1:24:11.960 --> 1:24:14.040
<v Speaker 3>Picks, yes, Yeah i'm with you on. THAT i feel

1:24:14.040 --> 1:24:15.280
<v Speaker 3>the same. Way, so but it's not.

1:24:15.360 --> 1:24:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Over it's not over in stadium, practice preseason games that

1:24:18.880 --> 1:24:19.599
<v Speaker 2>those are all big.

1:24:19.640 --> 1:24:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Deals so that, position it'll be interesting seeing who they

1:24:22.680 --> 1:24:24.400
<v Speaker 1>have kicking the games and how many reps each guy

1:24:24.400 --> 1:24:25.719
<v Speaker 1>gets in the, games so that's usually pretty.

1:24:25.720 --> 1:24:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Telling, yeah all, right so that's your run through the entire.

1:24:29.000 --> 1:24:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Roster hope you enjoyed. It we have a couple more,

1:24:32.000 --> 1:24:33.800
<v Speaker 2>minutes So i'm going to tell you. What we have

1:24:33.880 --> 1:24:35.479
<v Speaker 2>three callers that've been waiting on hold.

1:24:35.360 --> 1:24:35.840
<v Speaker 3>For a really long.

1:24:36.000 --> 1:24:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Time but you guys got to be fast because we

1:24:38.360 --> 1:24:40.920
<v Speaker 2>we got to get off your no pleasant another show

1:24:40.920 --> 1:24:43.600
<v Speaker 2>on this in the, Studio so be as quickly as you.

1:24:43.640 --> 1:24:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Can if you're still hanging on, Here patty and Agu,

1:24:46.400 --> 1:24:50.000
<v Speaker 2>on what's Up, Patty.

1:24:48.680 --> 1:24:50.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm still hanging, on, Hey. Evan i'll tell you WHAT

1:24:50.760 --> 1:24:52.840
<v Speaker 4>i was ahead of the curve WHEN i thought WHEN

1:24:52.840 --> 1:24:54.760
<v Speaker 4>i asked you, GUYS i au if you guys were

1:24:54.760 --> 1:24:58.640
<v Speaker 4>excited About Jared wolfson coming back that he was on you,

1:24:58.680 --> 1:25:02.080
<v Speaker 4>know he didn't practice on the, spring and if you

1:25:02.080 --> 1:25:04.559
<v Speaker 4>guys thought he would want a starting, job guys kind

1:25:04.600 --> 1:25:07.200
<v Speaker 4>of tempered those, expectations but now those those are full.

1:25:07.240 --> 1:25:11.040
<v Speaker 4>Fledged so on that same, token AND i Know i'm

1:25:11.040 --> 1:25:13.639
<v Speaker 4>looking far, ahead why not Put Christian gondals on Brock

1:25:13.680 --> 1:25:16.120
<v Speaker 4>powers in week? One that makes the most sense to

1:25:16.160 --> 1:25:17.960
<v Speaker 4>me because if you look at their skill position, players

1:25:17.960 --> 1:25:21.000
<v Speaker 4>there's nobody that really as a game breaker other Than.

1:25:21.040 --> 1:25:23.479
<v Speaker 4>Bowers that's ALL i. Got i'll take it out, there, Thanks.

1:25:23.479 --> 1:25:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Patty SO i agree with you THAT i think it's

1:25:25.920 --> 1:25:28.280
<v Speaker 2>in play that one of the corners takes Brock, powers

1:25:28.400 --> 1:25:29.080
<v Speaker 2>especially on third.

1:25:29.120 --> 1:25:33.759
<v Speaker 3>Down i'm with. YOU i Think Carlton, davis long, arms physical.

1:25:33.800 --> 1:25:36.960
<v Speaker 3>GUY i think he's more of a pure matchup for.

1:25:37.040 --> 1:25:39.759
<v Speaker 3>That BUT i will what one hundred, PERCENT i almost

1:25:39.880 --> 1:25:43.759
<v Speaker 3>expect him third, down, pass third and. PASS i expect

1:25:44.000 --> 1:25:47.080
<v Speaker 3>one Of gonzales Or davis to be On. BOWERS i

1:25:47.080 --> 1:25:49.760
<v Speaker 3>expect him to treat him as a basically as a wide.

1:25:49.760 --> 1:25:52.280
<v Speaker 3>Receiver riley is In. Phoenix what's? Up?

1:25:52.320 --> 1:25:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Riley hey, guys how's it going?

1:25:55.280 --> 1:25:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Good?

1:25:56.760 --> 1:25:59.560
<v Speaker 4>Hey so two quick. Questions i'm not sure if you.

1:25:59.560 --> 1:26:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Already they're not my work, here so trying and.

1:26:03.000 --> 1:26:05.200
<v Speaker 4>Do my best to keep. Up but what are we

1:26:05.320 --> 1:26:07.559
<v Speaker 4>seen With Marcus epps And Marty.

1:26:07.680 --> 1:26:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Maphu, yeah thanks for the, Call. Riley so he Mentioned

1:26:11.800 --> 1:26:15.719
<v Speaker 2>depp's a little. Bit he's been in that third safety

1:26:15.800 --> 1:26:18.800
<v Speaker 2>free safety. MIX i don't think that's necessarily a role

1:26:18.800 --> 1:26:20.640
<v Speaker 2>where you're gonna see a lot of splash plays from that.

1:26:20.680 --> 1:26:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Position it's more of Like Toron harmon be in the

1:26:23.240 --> 1:26:27.439
<v Speaker 2>right spot kind of. Role but That's, epps map who's

1:26:27.439 --> 1:26:30.800
<v Speaker 2>been playing linebacker a. Lot would for now with the

1:26:30.840 --> 1:26:33.720
<v Speaker 2>second unit at, times but mainly THAT i would say,

1:26:33.880 --> 1:26:37.000
<v Speaker 2>that you, Know toby is not out, there so it's

1:26:37.000 --> 1:26:39.200
<v Speaker 2>hard to, say you, know If tavai was, here would

1:26:39.240 --> 1:26:41.439
<v Speaker 2>it Be gibbins And, tavai you, know as the next

1:26:41.439 --> 1:26:44.600
<v Speaker 2>two right on the field instead Of gibbons And. Mapu

1:26:44.680 --> 1:26:47.479
<v Speaker 2>but that's where they're. Repping at Least mapu made some

1:26:47.520 --> 1:26:48.360
<v Speaker 2>plays against.

1:26:48.120 --> 1:26:48.680
<v Speaker 1>The run the other.

1:26:48.760 --> 1:26:50.839
<v Speaker 2>DAY i marked him down for a couple of, stuffs

1:26:51.360 --> 1:26:54.080
<v Speaker 2>so he was in there a few. Times BUT i

1:26:54.080 --> 1:26:57.760
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't say either one of those guys has like, flashed you,

1:26:57.760 --> 1:26:59.479
<v Speaker 2>know to a point Where i'm like talking about.

1:26:59.560 --> 1:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Him he still feels like he's probably on the on the. Bubble,

1:27:05.360 --> 1:27:08.439
<v Speaker 1>yeah and Then epps's had played enough THAT i think

1:27:08.439 --> 1:27:10.439
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna make the, team but, yeah he hasn't necessarily

1:27:10.479 --> 1:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>had any big standout.

1:27:11.360 --> 1:27:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Place All, Right randy is In. Providence what's, Up randy going?

1:27:17.920 --> 1:27:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Once?

1:27:18.240 --> 1:27:21.439
<v Speaker 2>Randy All, RIGHT i left those guys on hole for

1:27:21.479 --> 1:27:23.680
<v Speaker 2>like over an, hour So i'm not. Surprised all, Right

1:27:23.720 --> 1:27:26.080
<v Speaker 2>so that's gonna do it for today's. SHOW a little

1:27:26.080 --> 1:27:29.400
<v Speaker 2>bit of an abbreviated episode today Because alex is just

1:27:29.680 --> 1:27:31.439
<v Speaker 2>he's just a popular, guy like we just have to

1:27:31.439 --> 1:27:33.880
<v Speaker 2>compete for his time this time of, year and that's

1:27:33.920 --> 1:27:34.280
<v Speaker 2>hard to.

1:27:34.280 --> 1:27:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Do so we all have a.

1:27:36.040 --> 1:27:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Job we all have jobs we have to.

1:27:37.240 --> 1:27:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Do, yeah that's.

1:27:37.960 --> 1:27:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Fair next week we are going to be On. Thursday

1:27:42.479 --> 1:27:45.040
<v Speaker 2>the next two, weeks, actually we're gonna be On thursday

1:27:45.560 --> 1:27:47.840
<v Speaker 2>because of the joint practices that are coming. Up we

1:27:47.880 --> 1:27:51.120
<v Speaker 2>wanted to do the one In. Minnesota we wanted to

1:27:51.160 --> 1:27:53.559
<v Speaker 2>do it On thursday so that we can talk about

1:27:53.600 --> 1:27:55.680
<v Speaker 2>both days of practice instead of just one day of.

1:27:55.800 --> 1:27:58.599
<v Speaker 2>Practice and then next week again we have to Share

1:27:58.680 --> 1:28:02.519
<v Speaker 2>barth with the sports of his day job at, least

1:28:03.080 --> 1:28:05.240
<v Speaker 2>so we're gonna do the show On thursday for the

1:28:05.240 --> 1:28:07.960
<v Speaker 2>next couple of. Weeks so we'll be On thursdays for

1:28:08.000 --> 1:28:11.360
<v Speaker 2>the next two weeks After Patriots, unfiltered so two to

1:28:11.439 --> 1:28:14.880
<v Speaker 2>four ish for the next couple of weeks. There but

1:28:14.960 --> 1:28:17.240
<v Speaker 2>we'll keep you guys updated on all that good stuff

1:28:17.520 --> 1:28:20.720
<v Speaker 2>on socials and On patriots dot com and YouTube and

1:28:20.920 --> 1:28:23.559
<v Speaker 2>all those good. Things so you'll be updated on the

1:28:23.600 --> 1:28:25.719
<v Speaker 2>times in the, days but for the next two weeks

1:28:25.880 --> 1:28:29.280
<v Speaker 2>it'll Be, thursday Not. Wednesday but until, then signing off

1:28:29.520 --> 1:28:32.360
<v Speaker 2>For Alex bart For alex behind The, glass we'll see

1:28:32.360 --> 1:28:32.960
<v Speaker 2>you guys Next.

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