1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this Monday week Trending 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: episode for October ninth, twenty twenty three. Happy Indigenous People's Day. 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm Jack O'Brien. That is Miles Gray. Yeah, Miles Grey. Wow, 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: what's up man, I'm trying to get the energy up, bro, 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: I get the energy. Come on, now, come on, get 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: the energy up. Yet A long weekend had had a yeah, man, 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: I was out there with the boys, out a lot 8 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: of sut Yeah, I'm I'm officially a scout for the 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns collecting intelligence. Kevin Grant to go hang out 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: with but yeah, Kevin Durant as tall as hell man 11 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: turns out to go hang out with my dad at 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: the Phoenix Sun's training camp for a day, which was 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: super fun. Good to see the old man, see Frank Vogel, 14 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: Uh right and uh yeah. And then this weekend was 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: a whole another mess because I got home and immediately 16 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: went camping. Got you know, we rented a cabin in 17 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: the woods, so it wasn't like camping camping. 18 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: Oh oh got you got you? 19 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: Got you? 20 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 21 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: Wait? 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: Was it a scout thing or was a family thing? 23 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: This was a whole school thing. The whole school. So 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: it is like one large, roving birthday party. But you know, 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: like you're just like at a thing with like kids 26 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: and their families for forty eight hours and uh, it's. 27 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: Wait, what do you what do you mean it's for 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: someone's birthday. 29 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: No, it wasn't a birthday, but like you know, you 30 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: like as a parent, like you know the social event 31 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: of like, yeah, you had a kid's birthday party. 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're like that energy with Yeah, I'm starting 33 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: to see that more. Like as I talked to more 34 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: friends who like live in different parts of the city, 35 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: is like, dude, I can't out have nothing in common 36 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: with some of these dads. 37 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: It's like freaks me out. 38 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: Like everyone's like a flat brim cap, wrap around sunglass dude, like. 39 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: Loose my loose teas on. And it doesn't it doesn't matter. 40 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: There's a lot of us out here, the flat brim 41 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: wrap around and shade people. 42 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: You're telling me, bro, I was up in it this weekend. 43 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I hear. Shall we get into our 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: overrated underrae? Yeah, let's get into it. What is your overrated? 45 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: My overrated this weekend? Uh? 46 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: This reality that I'm experiencing is Octoberfest celebrations in La 47 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: So I went to. 48 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: I've been to an october Fest. 49 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 3: I've not been to like the one like legit German Octoberfest, 50 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 3: but I've been to one that felt like it where 51 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: it felt like a faithful recreation of like a German 52 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 3: beer festival, where like it was like very fun and 53 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: like raucous and shit. And I was like, Okay, maybe 54 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: we'll see like what this like local octoberfest thing was 55 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: that I went to. And ah, man, it was like 56 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: an excuse for like white supremacists like all where they're like, 57 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: let's go dude, I saw so much. 58 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: Let's go somebody, Let's go. 59 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: Brandon like the Blue Line, like you know, hyper pro 60 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: cop shit like Pinochet thrown out of like helicopter, kind 61 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: of like Propagate like Wodchin. 62 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: Like all, if. 63 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: You're like terminally online like some of us are, and 64 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: you you're kind of familiar with the semiotics of like 65 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: the far right, your start. 66 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: To be like what the fuck is this place? 67 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: And it was like wold, dude, everyone, So again I'm like, 68 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: maybe it's authentic. 69 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: Mother. You know what's also funny, everybody's thinking bud light yea. 70 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: They were like they had beer tents and there's like 71 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: only one place you could get like German beer, so 72 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: like they weren't even like honoring the promise of like 73 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: German anything. 74 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: Uh. 75 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: And then every vendor had the same tired ass food, 76 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: which is a dry ass pretzel or like basically what 77 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: I suspected were like Johnsonville broughtwursts that you get it's 78 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: like Froger right, and being like, hey, you wanted the 79 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: yellowy backing and yeah, yeah, like and then I was like, wait, 80 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: this one's Italian, dude. I think once you guys messed 81 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: up and it snuck a package of Italian into this one. 82 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: But it was just kind of like a weird just 83 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: had a weird. 84 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 3: Energy to it, like it it wasn't Yeah, I don't 85 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: know what the fuck. I don't know what the fuck 86 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 3: I was expecting, but it was a very very interesting 87 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 3: time with very little good food. 88 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: And I was like, at the at the very least, 89 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: like if I go to like. 90 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: A you know, Italian street festival, you're like, you're eat 91 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 3: you eat, yeah, But this German one, it was just 92 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: cops and Johnsonville broughts. 93 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wild that they're not able to quit budd 94 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: Light that they're not like that seems like like does 95 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: bud Light taste different to people than Miller Light or 96 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: the other beers that are like water mostly water flavored. 97 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: I should have asked if I'm like, yo, is this 98 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: like like McDonald's sprite for cops? 99 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: You know, like you're like, man, just bud Light out 100 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: the tap. 101 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's. 102 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 3: And I just like it was just so funny to 103 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: have a thing like hitch hammer you over the head 104 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: with like the German Experience or whatever and it be 105 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: just like this very it was basically it's a carnival with. 106 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: Like sub Epcot level German Oh. 107 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: Not even don't even you know, Okay, I've never even 108 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 3: been to Epcot, but I've seen enough Disney Channel to 109 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: know how magical Epcot is. 110 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 2: It wasn't this. 111 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: It wasn't this. 112 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 3: It was like it was bud Light and a couple 113 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: people in later hosen or like wearing a dirndal. 114 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. Like I went to October like Cincinnati 115 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: and southern Ohio has a large German population and they 116 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: goff for october Fest. But I am curious, like that, 117 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: what whether though, like as America kind of slides towards fascism, 118 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: if if October fests like take on a different meaning 119 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: where they can remember, yeah remember the good old days. Man, 120 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: it was a kind. 121 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 3: Of like hey German pride, huh, Like I some people 122 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 3: had that energy. Yeah, but yeah again, I think it's 123 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: like to your point, I think it's like anything right, Like, uh, 124 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: like a Korean street festival will go will be fucking 125 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 3: absolutely lit in La because we have like the biggest 126 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: Korea town in the country versus like what that might 127 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: be in another place. Was like maybe yeah, yeah, maybe 128 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: not so I'm sure, like you know, Zegang, let me know, 129 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 3: like if you have a like a lit October fest 130 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 3: that doesn't feel like the third and a half Reich. 131 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, or if it does, if you have a lit 132 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: one and it's just like even more. 133 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's so right. Yeah right, it's like three 134 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: k's in October. 135 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. My my over is bugs. Bugs, but these things 136 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: out of here. Yeah. There's that TikTok video where a 137 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: guy celebrates like that crispness in the air that comes 138 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: that fall that sends quote bugs back to the hell 139 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: where they belong, and he's just like yeah, like he 140 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: made it up. But I enjoy I enjoyed it. That 141 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: That is kind of how a part of my brain 142 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: felt every fall when I was growing up on the 143 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: East Coast orally in a place with seasons, where it 144 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: was just like ah, yes and there they go. 145 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: All we can pray for is it gets cold enough 146 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: that the mosquitoes fucking subside. That's really like the one 147 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: thing I'm looking forward to with potentially the fucking temperatures 148 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 3: dipping below eighty. 149 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we had a hard time. 150 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: We had a camping weekend, like I mentioned, for my kids' school, 151 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: and there was like some cycle of hot cold that 152 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: like hatched a bunch of winged insects that were so 153 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: horny for my eyes and mouth and ears, like just 154 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: they wanted to get into every hole of my head 155 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: that didn't have something covering it. 156 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: Jesus, So were you just wearing like a ski mask 157 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: to try to. 158 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: Well, I didn't pack a ski mask nor. 159 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: You know, always pack a scheme. Your dad taught you 160 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: that's why you always pack a ski mask. 161 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: But like everyone was walking around with their head just 162 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: being trailed by like a comet taiale of ten to 163 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: twenty flies and then you yeahing them away swatting them 164 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: away as they walk. Yeah. I asked the guy at 165 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: the front desk, like if he had any tips or like, 166 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, and he was just like, you know, I 167 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: live in the hills. I get a lot of them. 168 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: You just kind of become one with the bugs, like 169 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: I don't even really notice them anymore. And he had 170 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: like bugs swarming around his head. His entire face was 171 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: made of moving bugs. Yeah, it was like that nightmare 172 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: before Christmas. 173 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 3: Guy. 174 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: Once you took this soidey, you are right, it made 175 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: me feel like a failure because like because I wasn't 176 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: able to defeat them with just like sheer zen Buddhism 177 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: and just like, ah, they will not hurt me. But 178 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: like like yeah, that's also exactly what the bugs would 179 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: say if they had like broken into someone's brain like 180 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: they seemed to be trying to do with me, and 181 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: were like piloting them around, they would be like, no, 182 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: you just must it's still let them overtake you. It's jack. 183 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: It's forty eight thousand bugs in the shape of a 184 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 3: guy wearing clothes. 185 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: For sure. I had the thought at one point that 186 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna wrap my head in toilet paper, like 187 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: I didn't seriously consider it, but I was like, I'm 188 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: going to go full invisible man on this, like that's 189 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: that is an option that has popped into my head 190 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: at this point. 191 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: So it oh, so it was really okay, okay, well, 192 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 2: you know it is. That's what happens sometimes. 193 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 3: I remember when I was like in Africa, I had 194 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 3: a similar situation because like Africa is just teeming with 195 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: life like everywhere, like from the plants that grow to 196 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: like the fact that there are bugs everywhere, And after 197 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 3: a week, I did become one with. 198 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: The bugs, like they just Yeah, it's weird. 199 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: I think it's truly like this thing where your sense 200 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: is just dull to it where you're like, dude, you're 201 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: not going to fucking make it if you're like yeah, yeah, 202 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: just be like they're gonna fucking And then in a way, 203 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 3: I don't know if it was zen or just from 204 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 3: just being ground down the bugs, but. 205 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: Just like turn a week, brain figures out how to 206 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: turn that thing off. Yeah, whatever that is. It was 207 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: like inherently just like ah yeah. 208 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly to keep my ear where somehow, like I 209 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 3: think my ear either repelled the bugs or killed them. 210 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: I don't know what was going on. 211 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, you just become like a elephant or 212 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: like a horse, just like kind of lazily swatting at 213 00:10:58,880 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: the bugs. 214 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, every now and then, but like, yeah, sure a 215 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,599 Speaker 3: fly is gonna crawl on your fucking head. 216 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: And then it'll go, you know, it'll land on your 217 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: eyeball and crawl around there. 218 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: For lay some eggs, and I will faithfully take care 219 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 3: of the larvae. 220 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: Just become one with them. Let them take over. That's 221 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: coming out of your eye. Let's just fly larva. Sorry, 222 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: what's what's the thing is underrated? 223 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: Underrated, So the ability of children's sports to make me 224 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 3: into an asshole. I saw my nephew play Little League 225 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: over the weekend and it was a close game, but 226 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: I found myself fucking like wanting to talk shit to 227 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 3: the batters that he was facing on the mound like 228 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 3: he was pitching. And I was like, okay, full disclosure, 229 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: these kids are the oldest ten years old. Yeah, this 230 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: ten year old baseball, which isn't baseball. It's mostly called 231 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: like weaponizing your ability to predict like a fielding error, 232 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: to load the bases and steal bay. That's pretty much 233 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: all it is at that level. It's always just about 234 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 3: like yep, go steal second, yeah, the catcher drop. 235 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: You could just become completely unstoppable if you bunted every 236 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,479 Speaker 1: time because nobody can field whatsoever. 237 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: Oh And like I don't know if there's just something 238 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 3: for me like about sports, where like it just gives 239 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 3: me a reason to act like the stakes are so fucking. 240 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: Real and high. 241 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: And I obviously, I mean like I'm not yelling at 242 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: ten year old kids, Like I kept my mouth shut. Obviously, 243 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: it was just like you know, being cheerful and supportive. 244 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 3: But like there would be times like it would be 245 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 3: a full count, and in my mind, I was saying, 246 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 3: like shit in my head, like I wanted to be like, hey. 247 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: This kid scared together. Man, he ain't serious, he ain't serious. 248 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: You don't know what he's doing. 249 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: Just get it to the catcher He'll be shuffling back 250 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: to the dugout Like That's like it reminded me of 251 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: being in high school again, when like you could talk 252 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: fucking cash it like at his sports, like at an event, 253 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: and that was like the fun of it. And and 254 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: I realized I needed to just adjust my expectations. But 255 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: there were they're also like these parents they're like a 256 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 3: little too critical of their kids, like. 257 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: Oh, what's he do He's got his arms crossed. 258 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like and like the pictures like about to 259 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 3: throw and yeah, I guess he could like he's on 260 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: third if his arms are crossing, whatever, who gives a shit. 261 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: But then I just realized, I'm like, I was like 262 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: just I was becoming like one of those assholes who 263 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 3: isn't merely there to like support a loved one, like 264 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 3: you know, as they do something they enjoyed, but like 265 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 3: becoming one of these people who's like having their ego 266 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: live vicariously through a ten year old. Yes, that should 267 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: not have that responsibility ever, Yeah it's a lot. 268 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: And also stop living vicariously. 269 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: Through stopt vicariously through your children. 270 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, so that I learned a few lessons. 271 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: So it many many things were learned from that faithful 272 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 3: baseball game, Miles. 273 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: In many ways, children can be our best teachers. It's true. 274 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm uh yeah, no, I'm fully I have a hard time. 275 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: Like you know, my oldest plays chess a lot, and 276 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: just like watching his chest match chess, by the way, 277 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: something I'd never like played prior to a year ago. 278 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: But like now I'm like, oh, he's not, you know, 279 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: like on the inside, I'm just like so living and 280 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: dying with every move and it's absurd. 281 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: You're just reading the text recap of his chest game. 282 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: Kidding me, ma'am, but yeah, am I underrated. I think 283 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: I've done it before, but I gotta do it again. 284 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 3: The goddamn twelve foot hovering witch that I have in 285 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 3: my front yard. 286 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: That I got home depot. We have a story later 287 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: on about like the new hot operation. Yeah, big big 288 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: Halloween decoration, our new gods, and they mentioned the twelve 289 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: foot skeleton and they mentioned I guess I didn't realize 290 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: that there's a giant beetlejuice sandworm that you can put 291 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: in your front lawn, which looks fun. That one looks great. 292 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: It's oversized, for sure. It's a yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, 293 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: But I and they leave off the twelve foot hovering 294 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: which I just have to you know, first of all, 295 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: I was able to disassemble it at the end of 296 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: Halloween season last year, put it back in storage, take 297 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: it out of storage since we last spoke about it, 298 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: and put it back up. And she's she's out there 299 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: hovering off of my front lawn again with her shirt 300 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: inside out, because it turns out I put the shirt 301 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: on inside out and it's a tremendous pain in the 302 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: ass to undo that mistake. But fine, it's fine. But 303 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: the seams are showing. 304 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: It's fashion three. 305 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: But the little kids are back man like taking pictures 306 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: with There's one family who like has a like ongoing, 307 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, their their toddler son is like, can we 308 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: visit the witch every morning when they go on a walk, 309 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: And it is just because you're spying on the family 310 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: during their morning discussions. Yeah, exactly, Well that's what I 311 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: have it there for, for intel gathering. I'm actually hiding 312 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: in the Witch's skirt and just catching catching people slip with. 313 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: The parabolic microphone. 314 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: What are they saying? What are they saying about my witch? 315 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: But it's got the shirt's normal. 316 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: It's just it looks like it's inside out that she 317 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: meant to wear it that way. 318 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 3: Okay, why is it? Why is the witch talking third 319 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: person and coughing. 320 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: About went camping? There's a lot of smoke inhalations, trying 321 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: to get your ears. 322 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: Would you never mind? 323 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: But it's so it does have like one thing the 324 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: witch has that magic illusion and working like you know 325 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: the one you ever see that beer that's like hovering 326 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: in the sky perpetually, like pouring into a mug. 327 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like the floating from spancers loading. Yeah yeah, yeah, 328 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 3: yeah yeah. 329 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: So it works on that same illusion where like her 330 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: broom is on the ground and she appears to be 331 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: flying and like that trick very simple, but it always 332 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: works on my brain for a split second. And so 333 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: I think I think where the Witch comes from, it's 334 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: a it's a twofer, and that she's big. She's also 335 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: flying u and I think she's flying for like thirty seconds. 336 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 3: So it's not just the scale of it, like the 337 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 3: damn fucking tired ass skeleton, thank you, that ship's fucking normcore. 338 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 2: We're talking to fucking optical illusion for the babies. 339 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think she also came out at the 340 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: same time as the were wolf, and like I think 341 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: people were a little disappointed in the were wolf, so 342 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: I haven't I think maybe lumped in together. 343 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't and I don't mean to. 344 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: I know we're not doing I already did my overrated 345 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: but I think, well, were wolves are a. 346 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: Bit passe, like just in general, where wolf, Yeah, Wow. 347 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, unless I'm using I'm using a werewolf to evoke 348 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: how you would be if you drink a Vietnamese iced coffee. 349 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: We have to change yourself to a. 350 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: Radio exactly where wolves are like where wolves for anybody 351 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: who has had substance abuse problems, uh like very easy 352 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: to identify with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, like 353 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: I and Jacko and Hide. Yes, but they're not they're 354 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: not necessarily scary. They're more like very sympathetic characters. 355 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: For yeah, because you're like, oh, man, that sucks, he's 356 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 3: gotta go back down there again. 357 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: Oh that was so annoying. 358 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 3: The McRib is back, Get my chain, honey, I gotta 359 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 3: go to the radiator. 360 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and 361 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: talk about the events of the week. We'll be right 362 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: back and we're back. Yeah and yeah, I mean the 363 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: weekend was a fucking nightmare. It was really like, you know, 364 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: horrifying the way, you know, the events that were happening 365 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: in Israel and also like the way everybody was furious 366 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: and hurting, and I don't know, it was a bad time. 367 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, you know, there was a 368 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 3: like a surprise attack launched by Hamas into like out 369 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 3: of Gaza that I think the death toll at this 370 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 3: point is like over thirteen hundred or something at this point, Yeah, 371 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: with a lot of Israeli citizens are civilians and Palestinian 372 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 3: civilians being killed. Yeah, and it's like, you know, the 373 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 3: footage is fucking horrifying. We've seeing people just like people 374 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: walking on the street getting shot and I think you 375 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 3: know a lot of those images inspired a lot of 376 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 3: people to memory hole like what the situation. 377 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: Is in Israel has been Yeah. 378 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, the coverage felt I the first things I read 379 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 3: like we're sort of treating these attacks like in a vacuum, 380 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: as if the like Israelis have not been putting Palestinians 381 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 3: like in a fucking open air prison as many people 382 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: describe the Gaza strip like that for for decades and 383 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 3: just be like how what like what were they doing? 384 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: What's going? 385 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: What? 386 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: What did what did they do that they deserve this? 387 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: And I'm not here to celebrate civilian deaths by any 388 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 3: fucking means. Just like, the thing that was stuck out 389 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 3: to me the most was sort of the lack of 390 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 3: context around the discussion around what the situation is between 391 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: Israel and Palestine and a lot of a lot of 392 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: colonial media shout out June for you know, I had 393 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 3: to remind myself that we call this colonial media colonizer media. 394 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: They they take up for other colonizer nations and treated 395 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 3: sort of like this thing that was mysterious and that 396 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 3: like nothing had been happening, as if you know, the 397 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 3: inflow and outflow of goods to Palestine is completely controlled 398 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: by Israelis, like along with medical supplies, electricity, water, countless things. Yeah, 399 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 3: and when you look at it from that perspective, you're like, 400 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 3: of course, shit like this is going to happen. Yeah, 401 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 3: this is this like the violence begets violence and this 402 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: is this is the situation. And I think, yeah, it 403 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: was really like you know, for like, even like the 404 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 3: commentary out of like the White House, obviously because we 405 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: are the biggest arms supplier to Israel, is going to 406 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: completely leave out the part that you know, the US 407 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 3: also has a hand in this from arming the Israeli 408 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 3: military and also letting you know, like we talked about 409 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 3: this during the all the uprisings in twenty twenty in 410 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 3: the US about how a lot of these carceral and 411 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 3: like crowd control technologies we saw being used are like tried, 412 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 3: like they're tested in. 413 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: Israel on the Palestinian people. 414 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so it's a very like it's a very 415 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: it's just a very fucked up situation and just to 416 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: see like how the fracturing of like people like losing 417 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 3: sight of what's going on and not to say anything 418 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: is like justified or anything, but like you're you're looking 419 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 3: at a situation where the outcome will only be this 420 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 3: kind of violence at a certain point when people are 421 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 3: put in k yeah, that they are going to respond 422 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 3: like this, and you know that now there's like that 423 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 3: there there have been a lot of like Israelis that 424 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 3: are taken hostage, and like the figures on that I 425 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: think obviously fluctuate depending on like where you're getting your news. 426 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: But it's just a it's it's it's it's a. 427 00:22:55,080 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 3: Fucking it's an ongoing fucked up situation that really has 428 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 3: been going on for like seventy five years now. And yeah, 429 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 3: like a lot of the coverage is sort of is like, yeah, 430 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 3: so this just happened, and that's all we can really 431 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 3: talk about. 432 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to your point about like it, you know, 433 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: people do horrific things in the fog of war, but 434 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: like racist propaganda gets spread in the fog of war 435 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: as well. You know, I think, like I abhor the 436 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: killing and mis treatment of innocent people. I just like 437 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: happen to abhor it when it happens to Palestinian people 438 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: as well. But it feels like it doesn't enter the 439 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: zeitgeist of the United States when the Palestinian people are 440 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: the ones suffering systemic imprisonment and murder due to the 441 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: policies of the Israeli government military and like, but I yeah, 442 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: like both of those things can be true, Like I 443 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: can want innocent Israeli people to be safe from harm 444 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: and also think the Israeli occupation is evil, you know. Yeah, 445 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: but yeah, it does like it just there does seem 446 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: to be And I remember this, like even from when 447 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: I was a kid, like viewing this conflict, like they're 448 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: just it seems like there is a the way the 449 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: mainstream media and the US or you know, the colonial 450 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: media treats this story. It seems like Palestinian lives are 451 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: worth worthless in the calculation, I mean, the US mainstream media. 452 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 3: We're also a nation built off the suffering of indigenous, 453 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 3: black and brown bodies. 454 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that exactly. 455 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: We can't. 456 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 3: We can't, we will never, we would never want to 457 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 3: define an amount of what that is worth or what 458 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 3: the suffering is worth. So because we have our own shit, 459 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 3: we refuse to reckon with We're not about the media 460 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: is not about to. 461 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 2: Reckon with another nation shit like that. 462 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: It might maybe in the sense to say like, well 463 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: the US is better, and that's just disingenuous, but you know, 464 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 3: it's just it's just like it's that's just sort of 465 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 3: a blind spot or a w WillFull blind spot that 466 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: has to be, you know, maintained in order for like, 467 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 3: you know, the moral high ground. 468 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: Of a nation to be. It's just, yeah, it's it's 469 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: it's grim. Yeah, I don't know, it's a super grim 470 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: like you said in the US as it released, the 471 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: US like geist. You know, Trump is claiming on social 472 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: media that the American taxpayer helped to fund the attacks 473 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: on Israel, kind of in keeping with his strategy of 474 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: taking the truth and saying the exact opposite. Yeah, or 475 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: at least like focusing on it. He's suggesting that youren 476 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: funded Hamas using the six billion dollars in assets that 477 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: they were that were recently unfrozen by the US in 478 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: exchange for American prisoners. 479 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 2: That talking point was everywhere. 480 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, this became the main like Republican talking point. And 481 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: it's especially super because first of all, it wasn't tax paramoney. 482 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: The six billion dollars was sitting in a South Korean 483 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: bank and ode to a due to South Korean purchases 484 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: of Iranian energy products. But their money was inaccessible purely 485 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: because South Korea was concerned about following a foul of 486 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: US sanctions. So that's yeah, yeah, that was money and 487 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: like us kind of parked there. 488 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 3: It'll only be dispersed for very specific payments like like 489 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 3: for you know, for like medicine, for food, those kinds 490 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 3: of things. So and like then there's even Marjorie Taylor 491 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 3: Green who tried to use this to be like it 492 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 3: was Ukraine, like to keep like banging that drum, to 493 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 3: be like to it was Ukraine armed them, and even 494 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: Russian media pushed back. 495 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: They're like, uh, we have we have. 496 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 3: Nothing that would suggest that's remotely true, but I guess 497 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: go off, Marjorie Taylor Green. Yeah, and yeah, again this 498 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 3: is just a very it's like while too, because you see, 499 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 3: like you see like people like Kylie Jenner like posted 500 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 3: something like like all stand with and support of Israel 501 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 3: and then getting absolutely torn down by like our followers 502 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 3: and like. 503 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: You know a way, I'm like, yeah, I get it. 504 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 3: I mean, like, if you're not critically thinking in this country, 505 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: you would think that maybe everything was fine in Israel 506 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 3: and the fact that like you would take this very 507 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: narrow perspective about like what the what the power dynamic 508 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 3: is there and just be like, why. 509 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 2: Would Palestinian people do this to Israelis? 510 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 3: We have to stand with the Israelis and understand obviously 511 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 3: the civilian death is fucking terrible. Yeah, And I think 512 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 3: there's this other part that you just that is missed of, 513 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 3: like how lopsided and imbalanced the violences in the direction 514 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 3: towards Palestinian people. Like, dude, there's countless times I'm reading 515 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 3: about Palestinian children getting killed, fucking journalists being killed by 516 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: snipers or whatever, and it's like it's only on the 517 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: margins of like like like global news sites or things 518 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 3: like that. It's not being talked to about on like 519 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 3: MSNBC or whatever. And that has people in this like 520 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, they have this perception again that it's 521 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 3: like they're Israel's just trying to do what they can 522 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 3: with like this mess that they've been dealt or whatever. 523 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 3: But if you look at like I was on Al 524 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: Jazeera and they had a graphic of showing like sort 525 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 3: of what this civilian death toll has been for the 526 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: roughly the last fifteen years up until this event, was 527 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 3: that about forty five hundred Palestinian civilians have died in 528 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 3: about three hundred Israeli citizens have died. 529 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 2: Just that's sort of what we're looking at. 530 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: And the coverage only goes really one way when it 531 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: comes to. 532 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: This one direction. 533 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and again and because we haven't a verb. We 534 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 3: saw this even with the war in Ukraine. When people 535 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: look a little lighter in complexion, there's there's a little 536 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 3: bit more empathy. And yeah, so a lot of these 537 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 3: people like sort of breathlessly take a lot of the 538 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: you know, the propaganda that comes out of like Israel 539 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: that sort of obscures what's going on, and they're like, yeah, 540 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 3: I think this is good because I saw some people die, 541 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: and it's like this is so much more complex and 542 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 3: being like pick a side right now, I mean, I'm I'm, 543 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 3: I'm there's nothing that I will waver in. And when 544 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 3: I look at the situation, I'm like, yeah, these people 545 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 3: are fucking getting sheniicided in slow motion. 546 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 547 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 2: Uh, And again I don't know what the fuck. 548 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: Someone put a thing out like, uh it was like 549 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: if Twitter existed in the eighteen hundreds and they're talking 550 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 3: about the like Haitian uprising against the French and they're like, 551 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 3: no idea, what happened here, Like he's innocent French people, 552 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. And they're like if Twitter existed then, 553 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 3: because it's like what, Yeah, we're talking about enslavement. We're 554 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: talking about like people getting killed. And you look at 555 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 3: the backstories of some of these people who join Hamas, 556 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 3: like one of the commanders lost his fucking infant son, 557 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 3: three year old daughter, and wife in like one fellow 558 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 3: swoop in an airstrike and like that was this guy's 559 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 3: radicalizing incident. And you're like, these are just there's just 560 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 3: you're creating a fucking pressure book or that's gonna just 561 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 3: blow up. And that's think like what every even like 562 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 3: leftists in Israel have been saying. They're like this is 563 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 3: we're not fucking We're not safe. When we do this, 564 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 3: and a lot of people are saying that, you know, 565 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 3: people are going to be demanding answers because for all 566 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 3: the money that's been spent two to like wall up 567 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 3: the Gaza strip and things and have like anti tunneling 568 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 3: sensor and things and nothing like. 569 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: They was really truly caught completely off guard. 570 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: And I think, like you know, most like sort of 571 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 3: experts in the arena talk about it's like, yeah, this 572 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 3: is going to bring some kind of paradigm shift. The 573 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 3: fucked up thing is now that we're going to see 574 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 3: even more loss of life for Palestini, innocent Palestinian people 575 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 3: as well, because the response like out of the government 576 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 3: in Israel has been like they're like op eds where 577 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 3: they're like when genocide is okay kind of thing, it's 578 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 3: like we need to like level Gaza. And this is 579 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 3: this is where it gets really fucked up because now 580 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 3: you were I'm reading reports of like more US military 581 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 3: hardware being sent to the region, and who knows where 582 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 3: this goes because I don't think you send warships when 583 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 3: you're trying to sort something out peacefully. 584 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: But again, this is this is sort of. 585 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 3: Like the ongoing terrible back and forth of just globally, 586 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 3: not reckoning with what's been happening in the region. 587 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, just back to like what is actually 588 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: happening on the funding side, So that six million dollars, 589 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: which again did not come from the United States, has 590 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: not been touched because it's being closely monitored by the US. 591 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: It's inaccessible like in a lot of ways, so none 592 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: of that money's actually been spent. The United States, meanwhile, 593 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: has provided Israel with one hundred and fifty eight billion 594 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: dollars in bilateral assistance and missile defense funding and helped 595 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: to fund Julyes brutal assault on the West Bank that 596 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: led to the deaths of like five children, which again 597 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: is the sort of thing that doesn't get covered in 598 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: our media. 599 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, or even like even like when when the 600 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: Hamas is saying, like this is why this is happening, 601 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 2: Like I like the first reports like I was reading 602 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,959 Speaker 2: just didn't even say anything about that, about like the 603 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: desecration of a mosque in Jerusalem, and like the continued 604 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: confinement of the people of Causa and things like that. 605 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: It's one of the most densely populated places on earth, 606 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: Like two million people live there. Yeah, so yeah, we'll 607 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: see what the I mean. I'm sure we'll continue to 608 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: talk about it, because the rhetoric is ramping up, and 609 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,959 Speaker 2: already we're sending so much money when we have our 610 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: own fucking issues to deal with, to to continue to 611 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: finance the oppression of people. 612 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: So yeah, yep, a lot going on this weekend, A 613 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 3: lot going on. 614 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break and we'll 615 00:32:53,520 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: come back and talk about Demolition Man, and we're back 616 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: and back. Demolition Man turned thirty today. Wow, one of 617 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: my names has become demolition Man. 618 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: Thank you. 619 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: I saw this movie. 620 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 3: I remember on a school night my dad and I 621 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 3: thought it was the most badass shit I could ever do. 622 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 3: I just read one of like just some tidbits about 623 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 3: like the making of this film that I had no idea. 624 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: Bits kid bits here, so. 625 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 3: You know, palate cleanser as we shift gears away from 626 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 3: the dark oppression in the Middle East. 627 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: So originally Stephen. 628 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 3: Segal was supposed to star opposite Jean Claude van Dam. 629 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 3: Jeann Claude van Dam was supposed to be Simon Phoenix, 630 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 3: the Wesley Snipes part. 631 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: Luckily, Marco Brambia, who is the person who gave us 632 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 2: the jaw dropping Utwo Sphere Visuals cast Stallone and Snipes 633 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,479 Speaker 2: instead because this was like this feels fucking dumb, like 634 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 2: this was not feeling the. 635 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: Two of them, and then and junk Club Van dam 636 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: are not really actors like the you know, like it's no, 637 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: it would have just been as like our greatest actor. 638 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 3: But it's right right right, but like there's a you 639 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 3: can see a little balance there. And then Wesley Snipes 640 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 3: with his like high energy and blonde, you know, flat 641 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 3: top and his love of karate kicking, You're like, yeah, 642 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 3: this is great. 643 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: Stallone ain't kicking. 644 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: I mean, has he ever karate kicked someone? I don't 645 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 2: think so. 646 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: I don't think every scene has ever been above knee level, 647 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: like right right ryeah. 648 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 3: Like in terms of his normal like gait like jogging 649 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 3: or something that's the highest his legs go. Yeah, that's 650 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 3: like this is perfect. You can't get two kicky guys 651 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 3: in there, no guy, Yeah, yeah, you need punchy guy. 652 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 3: And then like witty kicky guy. And then also Lenina Huxley, 653 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 3: who was the Sandra Bullock character was also originally cast. 654 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 3: Uh like Lori Petty tank Girl was originally cast to 655 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 3: play that part. 656 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: That actually made sense, that is like, oh, this character 657 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: was inspired by her. 658 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that there's like an energy to it. But then 659 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 3: apparently she and Stallone didn't get along. She described their 660 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 3: dynamic against oil and water were used to loan Lloyd Betty. Yeah, 661 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 3: like she and then again they were were like, okay, 662 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 3: let's get this young upstart Sandra Bullock in here, which 663 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 3: I didn't realize this was actually like the this was 664 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 3: her first sort of huge step towards stardom. 665 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 2: And then I think speed came after this was like 666 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 2: and then she was fully there. 667 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 3: So and I also didn't realize this was a kind 668 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 3: of a comeback for Stallone with that movie. Oh yeah, yeah, 669 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 3: he had it was some fallow years. 670 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always interesting. It's a I think it's the 671 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: closest that Stallone came to successfully pulling off what like Schwartzeneger. 672 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: You know, the eighties were defined by Schwarzenegger versus Stallone, 673 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: and Schwarzenegger was always able to be in like the 674 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: sci fi movies like Total Recall and Write Uh, Determinator Franchise, 675 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: and Stallone it like you always have to rub up 676 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: against Like the way he talks doesn't feel like it 677 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: should be in the future. Yeah, but this this one 678 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: it worked out. It can't because the whole like premise 679 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: of the movie is that he's not supposed to be 680 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: uh from this time and he's supposed to be like 681 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 1: an ally whoa. 682 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 3: And there's a nod to like this the Schwarzenegger rivalry 683 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 3: when they're like the presidential the Schwarzenegger Presidential Library, like 684 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 3: they mentioned it, you know, like there's a little tongue 685 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 3: in cheek action. 686 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:56,479 Speaker 1: Where do you think? 687 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 2: Okay? 688 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 3: I know, like people have said this was like a 689 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 3: comeback film for him, So I'm trying to think what 690 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 3: periods are we defining as the follow years? Like was 691 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 3: it Rocky four was the beginning? 692 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 1: How where do you want to say this the fallow years? 693 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Rocky four is eighty five. That movie is 694 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: like number one of the box office for so most 695 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: of that year. 696 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 2: Cash was also, you know, wasn't that a hit? 697 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 3: Or am I just thinking because I saw the videotape 698 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 3: everywhere that I was like, that movie is a hit. 699 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, like A stop for my Mom 700 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: will shoot? Yeah. I think that and Oscar were around 701 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: the same time. 702 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Oscar's nineteen ninety one, Stopper My Mom Will 703 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,959 Speaker 3: Shoot is nineteen ninety two. Then Cliffhanger Demolition Man. 704 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: Oh well, Cliffhanger was also like a major comeback that 705 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: was like. 706 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah guy, So I think this is the beginning. 707 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 3: So our guests we were just Rocky five. We fuck 708 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 3: with Rocky five, and. 709 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: I think that's in l yeah. I think that counts 710 00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 1: as an l okay. Yeah. So, but like Judge, it 711 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: was like he was always trying to move Oscar. Oscar 712 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: is such a yeah, such a miss. So like the 713 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: big thing that where he like fell off. So he 714 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: was on this like Rocky four Cobra over the Top 715 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: streak where it's like this guy can do no wrong. 716 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 1: People will watch him in a arm wrestling movie. And 717 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: then Rambo three, which is the most expensive movie of 718 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: all time up to that point, which you know relates 719 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: to which also like the content of the movie relates 720 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: to what we were talking about the main story in 721 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,720 Speaker 1: the news right now, because he like helps the muja 722 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: Hadeen like fight off Imperial Russia, and people were like, huh, 723 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: we're not so into this political message. I don't know 724 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: if that was the the reason it tanked, but that 725 00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:02,720 Speaker 1: was that was like Vietnam Man, stick to killing Vietnamese people. 726 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: Yeah they're approved, uh, but yeah, Rambo three was a 727 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: big bomb. And then you have like Tango and Cash, 728 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: Rocky five, Oscar Stopper, My Mom will shoot. And then 729 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 1: in the same year he has Cliffhanger Demolition Man, which 730 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: come back and really you know, are seems like all right, 731 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: he's back. But then up next is like The Specialist, 732 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: Judge dread Assassins, which are all kind of not great 733 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: daylight yeah, the Tunnel movie. But then yeah, yeah. 734 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 3: That movie fucked me up, like because isn't it about 735 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 3: is it like about the Lincoln Tell Like is it. 736 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,439 Speaker 2: Is it New York? 737 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so. Yeah, it's like one of the 738 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: every one of these. 739 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 3: Every time I go like into one of those tunnels, 740 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh no, man, just like I have that 741 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 3: trailer stuck in my mind since I was a kid. 742 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's so funny that Dennis Leary is in 743 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: Demolition Man because it kind of takes its whole moral 744 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: core from like Dennis Leary bit yeah a lot of 745 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: you. I think he does a bit like I think he 746 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: does like run niked through the streets. Yeah, exactly. 747 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, And a lot of people took that as like, oh, 748 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 3: this is movies like libertarian, right, and they're like, no, no, 749 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 3: that's not the main point. 750 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 2: I think it is funny. That's why, like it's viewers 751 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 2: choice kind of. 752 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 3: For some people, if they want to hang on to 753 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 3: the Dennis Leary character, then they're like, yeah, this movie's 754 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 3: talking to me. Other people are like, oh, look at 755 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 3: how opportunistic leaders are in a tragedy to try and 756 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 3: consolidate power. 757 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 2: I think it is the larger message here, but. 758 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 3: Hey, it's up to you, folks if you want to 759 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 3: eat a rat burger with your ass hanging out while 760 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 3: you run through the streets and go ahead, buddy. 761 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 1: And finally, The Exorcist, the latest Exorcist sequel, came out, 762 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 1: and people are pretending that it was like a disappointment 763 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: because it only made twenty seven million dollars in the 764 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: United States made forty five million globally. That seems like 765 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 1: way more money than I would expect the movie, yeah 766 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: to make. 767 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,919 Speaker 2: We're still fucking with the Exorcist for real. 768 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 1: They haven't had a successful like they've had Exorcism movies, 769 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: but they're not like sequels to The Exorcists, and like 770 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: that franchise has been bad since the like the first 771 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: one is a classic, and then everything after that, like 772 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: the the second one is like famously bad, and like, 773 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: I guess Exorcists three is supposed to be good, but 774 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I think a lot of people 775 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: were scary. Either way, I'm not it. 776 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, in general, I'm not fucking with like Exorcisms, you know, 777 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 3: Exorcist movies. 778 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,800 Speaker 2: I don't like fucking scary movies. 779 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 3: I kind of feel like a waste of time for 780 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,479 Speaker 3: me when I'm like, yeah, I'm already in a state 781 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 3: of fright all right, existing in the world. 782 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 2: I don't need to compound that with the Exorcists. 783 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 3: But then when I read how much money fucking Warner 784 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 3: Brothers paid to fucking own the rights. 785 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: Just to own the rights, they paid four hundred million dollars, 786 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: so I. 787 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 3: Guess they're a quarter nearly a quarter of their way 788 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 3: earning it back. 789 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,760 Speaker 1: But but then the movie costs thirty million to produce. 790 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,240 Speaker 1: This is the best opening for an Exorcist movie ever. 791 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 1: But like everyone's like this, this one's tanked, guys. And 792 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:32,280 Speaker 1: the reason that people think it tanked is wokeness because 793 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: there's a line in the movie. So there's a line 794 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,919 Speaker 1: in the movie where Ellen Burston's character says, like, talking 795 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 1: about the first movie, so Elan Burston was the mom 796 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: and the first Exorcist, I believe, and she was like, 797 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: they wouldn't let me in to like watch the Exorcist Exorcism, 798 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: I guess. And then another character is like, why not, 799 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 1: She says, my opinion, because I'm not a member of 800 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: their damn patriarchy. W Yes, well man, you go broke, dude. 801 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 1: I mean it is like the line is so bad. 802 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:18,280 Speaker 1: It is like the worst version of woke signaling bullshit 803 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 1: where you just like give a cartoon version of a 804 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: feminist take right, you will be shocked to learn that 805 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: it is directed by a man and written by three men. 806 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 1: So so woke. 807 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 3: That's what's woke, though, because I'm able to I'm able 808 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 3: to actually comment on patriarchy as a person who's part 809 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 3: of it, you see. 810 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 2: That's why I'm getting points. 811 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 3: But Jesus Man, four hundred million is such a we're 812 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 3: we're so screwed, Like there's no no one likes an 813 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 3: original fucking idea so much copycat ship. 814 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 2: What what rights are they buying, we get these rights? Okay, 815 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 2: Well don't I got rights? Hey, don't I got something 816 00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 2: original on the screen? 817 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 3: Five? 818 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 1: Come on? Yeah, Rocky six? Is that six? Yeah? That 819 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: is it? No? I don't know? 820 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 3: Or is that is that Rocky Balboa is technically Rocky six? 821 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the one where he like wants to box someone. 822 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 823 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: They're like, dude, you're too old, You're too old, You're 824 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 1: gonna die. Don't got rights? 825 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 3: And they're like, oh, you know what, You're right, you do, Okay, 826 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 3: go ahead, die in the ring, sir. 827 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, the new one's got absolutely terrible reviews, not 828 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: just from film critics but from our very own superducer Victor, 829 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: who says, the new one is so bo. 830 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 2: That's the five ring boring. Uh oh, you're getting a fib. 831 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: Ring boring rating. Nah, man, that's not good. 832 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 2: Five o's on that one. Don't do it. 833 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: And then we do have a new Halloween decoration taken over. 834 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: It's targets Lewis Lewis, Yeah, what the fuck is Lewis? 835 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: So it goes for one hundred and eighty dollars, already 836 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 1: sold out in most stores, and the the overall like 837 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: reason that people are fucking with Lewis is because he 838 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,479 Speaker 1: seems to have attitude like he has he will talk 839 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: to you. 840 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, this is their king. 841 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: Yes, this thing, this is Janki's ship, but he has 842 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: sass and. 843 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 2: Target. 844 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: Target will not comment on Lewis's backstory, but people people 845 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: are saying, like, is Lewis giving l G B t 846 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: Q vibes? Is that? Like? What's going on? Because do 847 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: we have can we play the clip? I think it's 848 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: in the in the dock, Yeah, the clip is right there. 849 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 3: What I am not a Jack o Lantern? I thought 850 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 3: it was like some roots ship. Your name is Toby, 851 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 3: but that's was not what was going on. My name 852 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 3: is Lewis. 853 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 2: I'm okay, all right, Lewis, go ahead, do you sir? 854 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: Over there? It's not near me. I'll say you are 855 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 1: Jack o Lantern? Sorry, man, you got a big pumpkinhead 856 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 1: and face carved in. 857 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 3: I don't know what your definition of jack O'Lantern is, 858 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 3: but it's fucking you man, it's you, and I hate the. 859 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: I am not a person. My name is jack It's like, yeah, no, 860 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 1: but like that, so those things are both true. You 861 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: are actually a person and you have a name, but no, 862 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm Jack. 863 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:42,439 Speaker 3: I'm a Jack, right, Oh okay, sure, I mean this 864 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 3: is I gotta say, this is a pretty weak offering 865 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 3: compared to the even the fucking Werewolf, Like I picked 866 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 3: the Werewolf over this ship. 867 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not their best work and not a chance, 868 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 1: not that anybody has a chance of getting it at 869 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 1: the original listing press. And you're fine. 870 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 2: You're fine not getting the thing. 871 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 3: You could almost quite literally make out of buying a 872 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,720 Speaker 3: big old plastic jack O lantern and going to fucking 873 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 3: and just putting some black sheets on it and then 874 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 3: put some wrang skeleton hands on it and look at you. 875 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 1: Now you have your own, your very own Lewis. It 876 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: does look like it was happening, like it was almost 877 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 1: like the point is like it's a thing that two 878 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: movie characters have put together to spook some people or something, right, 879 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: like in a movie. Yeah, like like the head leaning for. 880 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 2: Kevin McAllister joint Kevin. 881 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:35,840 Speaker 1: Kevin McAllister original. 882 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:36,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 883 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 1: Anyways, but I love it if Lewis gives people, you know, strength, 884 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: if Lewis is giving people inspiration and uh, you know, 885 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 1: giving people options. When the twelve foot Skeleton has sold out, 886 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,959 Speaker 1: which it has been all fall at home depot. Yeah, 887 00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 1: missed my window, man, I was so close, Like I 888 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: better talk it over with my wife as a big purchase. 889 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 1: By the time we had talked it over and I 890 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: had cried until she let me buy it, it was 891 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: sold out. So it was like a wour window. And 892 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: I cried, you know when I cry, so like try 893 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 1: and get a way. It goes on a long time 894 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 1: in USA. 895 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 2: I'm a jack o' lantern. I am all right. 896 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: Those are some of the things that are trending on 897 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 1: this Monday, October ninth. We are back tomorrow with a 898 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 1: whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind 899 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 1: to each other, be kind to yourselves, get the vaccine, 900 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 1: don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk 901 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:49,879 Speaker 1: to you all tomorrow. Bye bye,