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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number three Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton Show. Reports are that RFK Junior will

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Speaker 1: soon in the next few minutes, be announcing his official

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Speaker 1: running mate. It is going to be a woman who

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Speaker 1: used to be married, I believe to Sergei Brinn. Sergey Brin,

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Speaker 1: the one of the Google founders ex wives who donated.

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Speaker 1: If you remember, Buck, they ran an RFK Junior ad

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Speaker 1: during the Super Bowl. She donated the seven million dollars

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Speaker 1: that it costs to buy that Super Bowl ad. She

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Speaker 1: is very wealthy, very plugged in in California elite high

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Speaker 1: earning society. I would guess if I had to handicap

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Speaker 1: exactly what he's thinking that this is a way to

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Speaker 1: help raise more money. Maybe he thinks having a younger woman.

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Speaker 1: I think she's maybe forty three or forty four. Am

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Speaker 1: I accurate on that? But nobody knows the question and

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Speaker 1: it seems kind of strange. Yeah, fire Away, what's RFK

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Speaker 1: Junior really doing here? You know? I don't really Okay, really,

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Speaker 1: what's the point? My man?

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna win, so why go through all this,

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Speaker 2: what's the message? I would ask somebody this, what's the message?

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Speaker 2: Is taking on big farm and corporations. Far more likely

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Speaker 2: to be successful in that by getting closer to Trump

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Speaker 2: and bringing your best thoughts, your best ideas to Trump.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he'd be open to sitting down with RFK Junior,

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Speaker 2: even publicly saying, you know, I'd have him on as an.

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Speaker 1: Advisor or you know, FDA advisor. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Whatever the point being, if you want to change things,

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Speaker 2: you got to have the power to change things. RFK

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Speaker 2: Junior is going to change nothing except maybe the outcome

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Speaker 2: of the election for one side or the other. And

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Speaker 2: I still worry. I know people argue with me blue

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Speaker 2: in the face. I could be wrong. I still worry

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Speaker 2: that we may wake up the day after the election

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Speaker 2: and say, oh my god, Biden is president for four

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Speaker 2: more years because of RFK Junior's vanity rum.

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Speaker 1: That's my concern.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And and to your point, I would think Trump would

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Speaker 1: down with him and talk about putting him in the

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Speaker 1: cabinet somewhere. Totally. I don't think that's a crazy idea

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Speaker 1: at all. In fact, I think that RFK Junior on

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Speaker 1: the COVID shot which is where I think a large

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Speaker 1: percentage of our audience is in lockstep with him on

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Speaker 1: is he's one hundred percent right. I think everything he

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Speaker 1: said about COVID and the COVID shot that if you

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Speaker 1: could find a way, I don't know, Health and Human

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Speaker 1: Services secretary. I mean, we've got Mayor Pete as head

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Speaker 1: of Transportation, right, Like there are lots of different people

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Speaker 1: who just get jobs because they fit certain criteria. I

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Speaker 1: would think RFK Junior and the Trump cabinet as some

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Speaker 1: measure of acknowledgment for him having appeal for a certain

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Speaker 1: segment of the Republican electorate and independent voters would make

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Speaker 1: a ton of sense.

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Speaker 2: But again that's why I know people are going to say, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: it's so he can get his message out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but he's probably going to be in a position where

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Speaker 2: he might well I should say probably, he may be

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Speaker 2: in a position where he delivers four more years to

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Speaker 2: the people that got everything wrong on COVID. And if

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Speaker 2: you care about what happened to us with the forest

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Speaker 2: vaccinations and the crazy masking and the school shutdowns and

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Speaker 2: all of this stuff, right, if you care about that,

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Speaker 2: I don't think you want the people who did all

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Speaker 2: of that and are unrepentant and would do it again.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you want them in power for four

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Speaker 2: more years. So I'm I'm kind of low on patience

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Speaker 2: for the whole RFK Junior thing. I'm just being honest here,

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Speaker 2: and I think anybody who really sees this as a

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Speaker 2: critical election for a Donald Trump Republican victory should be

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Speaker 2: seeing it the same way. I don't think this is

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Speaker 2: helpful unless someone is absolutely dead set certain that he's

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Speaker 2: going to take more Democrat votes. But really, because we

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Speaker 2: know without RFK Junior in the mix, Trump's way ahead, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's no question.

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Speaker 1: It's not even buck where he where, how many votes

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Speaker 1: he gets, it's where he takes the votes away, right,

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Speaker 1: Because RFK Junior taking votes away from Trump in California

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Speaker 1: is probably not going to matter at all, Right, taking

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Speaker 1: at all if he takes away votes in Wisconsin and

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Speaker 1: Michigan and Pennsylvania and Georgia and Nevada. I think as

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Speaker 1: things get closer, you'll see remember back in ninety two,

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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton wanted Ross Perot on the stage for everything

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Speaker 1: because they had the polling data that reflected Ross Perot

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Speaker 1: hurt George H. W. Bush more than it hurt Bill Clinton.

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Speaker 1: At some point, I think the polling data will get

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Speaker 1: other of the campaigns arguing, yeah, he's oh yeah, like he.

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Speaker 2: Brings a lot to the table. Let's have him there

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Speaker 2: for sure. By the way, Nicole Shanahan, let me hit

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Speaker 2: you with this.

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Speaker 1: Thirty eight years old, insanely young by and large raised.

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Speaker 1: I'm reading from a Politico profile. Raised on welfare and

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Speaker 1: a single parent household in Oakland, California, daughter of a

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Speaker 1: Chinese immigrant. She was a patent lawyer and entrepreneur who

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Speaker 1: married Google co founder Sergei Brynna Sergey Brinn at a

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Speaker 1: yoga festival. They met, as one does, and uh, and

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Speaker 1: they are now divorced. But she's probably worth several billion dollars,

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Speaker 1: so I would bet. I can't imagine they got divorced

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Speaker 1: without her getting a few of his billion dollars. Looks

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Speaker 1: she's she's the money so to speak.

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Speaker 2: I mean, she's yes, her own money plus the money

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Speaker 2: connections that she has can fund RFK Junior's campaign. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there's that if they don't have I'm sure

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Speaker 2: to go. But you know, there's also a there is

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Speaker 2: a point to be made here of mister I hate

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Speaker 2: big corporations and monopolies and big pharma and all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Is tying himself to the Google money. Not great, It's

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Speaker 2: not great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just I'm just reading. They had a pre nup.

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Speaker 1: So that's turned into a huge legal battle. As you

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Speaker 1: would might imagine. They had one daughter, so that that

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Speaker 1: legal battle may still be continuing. Uh. She only asked

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Speaker 1: for one billion dollars only of his ninety five billion

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Speaker 2: The thing about prenups is that even when people think

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Speaker 2: that they have a prenup, sometimes there are ways to

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Speaker 2: get around it. And if you have lawyers that can

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Speaker 2: smell billions of dollars down there, they able to work

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Speaker 2: a lot on contingency. And then it does into when

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Speaker 2: you're a billionaire, what's it worth to make your divorce finalized?

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Speaker 2: And and you know, and and go with a little

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Speaker 1: Well, how many men or women out there, if you

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Speaker 1: what I mean. It's an insane amount of money. But

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Speaker 1: going on. What else were we gonna when we came back,

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Speaker 1: We were going to talk about ron McDaniel. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: I think this is a pretty big deal. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think it's crazy. So this is the report that is

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Speaker 1: are going to fire her following an on air result.

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Speaker 1: They're deliberating. This is the report execs or deliberating over details.

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Speaker 1: Rona McDaniel is getting a lawyer speaking of divorce and

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Speaker 1: probably will argue she's entitled to everything she signed under

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Speaker 1: her contract because what did she do? She didn't do

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, the thing with contracts is you have

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Speaker 2: caused anything like, you can't you can't be fired before

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Speaker 2: you being unhappy that you were hired is not a

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Speaker 2: for termination. I also wonder, depending on how this goes,

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Speaker 1: Who's hiring her now. Who's hiring her now? Would be

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Speaker 1: my argument if I were her lawyer. CBS not hiring her.

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Speaker 1: The CBS News is not like, hey, we're gonna step

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Speaker 2: Republicans complain to us constantly about They complained about Ron McDaniel,

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Speaker 1: That thing is right in the center of the fight,

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Speaker 2: more establishment that's the word. I'm looking for, more republican

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Speaker 2: establishment role. There isn't a more establishment role than this.

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Speaker 2: You can be the most establishment republican in existence in essence,

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Speaker 2: and NBC News hosts think that you were, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: It's insane. Buck. When we had Ron McDaniel on this show,

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Speaker 1: us for putting her on. Sometimes as guests, we would

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Speaker 1: get those angry emails. So to your point, it's impossible

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Speaker 1: and yet NBC News is so taken over that they

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Speaker 1: can't hire her, And I think this is important. A

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Speaker 1: publicans where sneakers to Another good one is doctors get

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Speaker 1: The employees of NBC News are dictating who NBC News

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Speaker 2: What is the craziest thing that you have heard all week?

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Speaker 1: This is I came, This is is bleeping insane.

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Speaker 1: A couple of things for you, Buck, I saved this.

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Speaker 2: Perception issue about safety and just about quality of life

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Speaker 2: New York City got a lot better under Juliani, but

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Speaker 2: it took some time. But everybody, as the numbers were

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Speaker 2: going down, new We're doing we have the will to

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Speaker 2: change and the will to make people safe. That's not

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Speaker 2: the case in New York City now. So it's bad.

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Speaker 2: And the people, I mean, this thing they do with

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Speaker 2: this was just pure theatrics and it was idiocy.

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Speaker 1: That's the question I was going to ask you. The

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Speaker 1: cops name Jonathan Dillar, thirty one years old. He had

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Speaker 1: a young son. The man who shot him again was

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Speaker 1: arrested twenty one times before he killed Jonathan Dillar. You

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Speaker 1: won't hear Jonathan Dillar's name very many places you won't

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Speaker 1: hear about his family. There won't be some mass protests

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Speaker 1: that rises up against him twenty one arrest. Just think

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Speaker 1: about how hard it is to be arrested twenty one times.

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Speaker 1: And that was the question I was going to build

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Speaker 1: on with this, Buck. What has to happen in order

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Speaker 1: for people to get so fed up that they're willing

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Speaker 1: to actually change the people they put in positions of power,

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Speaker 1: because you saw it happen once before with Julianni and Bloidberg,

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Speaker 1: who both did a good job.

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Speaker 2: The city of New York. I hate to say this,

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Speaker 2: and it's true of a lot of other cities as well.

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Speaker 2: So remember when we talked about New York a fear

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Speaker 2: amount here subwor listeners, But this is replicated and pretty

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Speaker 2: much every large Democrat run city in the country for

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Speaker 2: the most part, Clay, you know, they haven't suffered enough.

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Speaker 2: I think that's really the only thing you can say

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Speaker 2: about it. New York City in nineteen ninety nineteen ninety

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Speaker 2: one had over two thousand murders a year. The numbers

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Speaker 2: going up, but it's a far cry from that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they just want to see can they turn New

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Speaker 2: York City into Baltimore with eight million people. Is that

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Speaker 2: the plan, and maybe then they'll try to turn it.

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Speaker 2: The problem is when you get to that point, when

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Speaker 2: the suffering has gotten so extensive, it's much harder to

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Speaker 2: turn it around. And I think that one of the

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Speaker 2: other things the long term strategic challenge for New York

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Speaker 2: City is a lot of jobs. Without the financial sector,

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Speaker 2: without Wall Street, which isn't really on Wall Street for

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Speaker 2: the most part, but without Midtown financial institutions, New York

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Speaker 2: City can't pay its bills. New York City couldn't function

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Speaker 2: the way that it does, and a lot of that's

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Speaker 2: moving to Florida, a lot of that's moving to Texas,

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Speaker 2: moving to other states now, people with remote work and

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Speaker 2: the change in how business is done. New York can't say,

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Speaker 2: if you want a certain kind of career, you have

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Speaker 2: to live here and just deal with it. Deal with

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Speaker 2: the dirt, deal with the high you dirty streets, the

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Speaker 2: high crime, or the higher crime, the high incredibly high rents.

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Speaker 2: There's competition now and there wasn't really competition before, and

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Speaker 2: that's what I think is really changing things.

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Speaker 1: Not only competition, the ability to do your job just

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Speaker 1: as well and have tested it due to remote work

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Speaker 1: from COVID. Because if you ran a private equity fund

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Speaker 1: and the difference between you having a twelve percent return

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Speaker 1: everybody being in the exact same location in New York City.

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Speaker 1: You would never have tested that because the stakes were

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Speaker 1: so high you wouldn't have been willing to risk whether

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Speaker 1: your hypothesis was correct. That's potentially billions of dollars in

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Speaker 1: money that's out the window. Well, everybody tested it, and

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Speaker 1: you found out, Hey, wait a minute, I don't have

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Speaker 1: to pay state income tax. I can live in Florida.

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Speaker 1: I can relocate my entire business to your point. Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Citadel relocated the entire universe they're building. I was reading

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Speaker 1: about this on Miami a golf front. I believe incredible, new,

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Speaker 1: brand new headquarters. I don't think Kim Griffin. I believe

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Speaker 1: it is that Citadel would have ever left Chicago if

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Speaker 1: he hadn't been able to test during COVID and know

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Chicago has had a horrible long term trend,

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Speaker 2: but it's gotten particularly bad in recent years of murders,

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Speaker 2: and they'll have you know on especially because the weather

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Speaker 2: it's warmer than more people outside. In Chicago, you'll have

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Speaker 2: thirty people shot over a weekend and it's not even

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Speaker 2: a use. Anybody doesn't even really make news. And the unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: the response for the City of Chicago voters was to

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Speaker 2: vote for this Skuy Brandon Johnson, who's even worse on

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Speaker 2: crime than Lori Leifoot. Yeah, you return to this. They

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Speaker 2: haven't suffered enough. The Democrat establishment would rather believe that

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Speaker 2: effective law enforcement is racist, then do their jobs and

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Speaker 2: keep everyone in the city, including minorities who live in

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Speaker 2: the highest crime neighborhoods in places like Chicago, keep everyone safer.

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Speaker 2: They would rather think well of themselves and keep people

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Speaker 2: from getting shot.

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Speaker 1: That's the truth. It reminds me sex in the City,

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Speaker 1: which is probably not an analogy you expected me to make, Oh,

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Speaker 1: Clay hard turn Kristin on sex in the city, I think,

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Speaker 1: or Kristin the Kristin Stewart whatever. The cutest brunette was Charlotte. Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, yes, I can't believe I just did that. I

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Speaker 2: should have let you just keep going, and I just

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Speaker 2: bailed you out with the name. Now everyone knows the truth.

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Speaker 2: I've seen Sex in the City too.

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Speaker 1: There's a scene in one of the Sex in the

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Speaker 1: Cities where she decides that she wants to be the

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Speaker 1: age of her own success or failure, and every decision

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Speaker 1: she makes ends up being the wrong one, and she

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Speaker 1: just says, over and over and over again, I chose

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Speaker 1: my choice. I chose my choice. I chose my choice.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like that for so many left wing voters,

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Speaker 1: they refuse to acknowledge that they are the agents of

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Speaker 1: their own demise because it's easier to believe there's some

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Speaker 1: nefarious external Republican bad guy who was causing this and

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Speaker 1: they did it all to themselves, and that reality is

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Speaker 1: tough to recognize.

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Speaker 2: I mean, imagine, if I could sit down with Nancy

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Speaker 2: Pelosi right, just to give you an example, if I

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Speaker 2: could sit across from her and we actually and she

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Speaker 2: couldn't just shout over me or have her staff, you know,

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Speaker 2: in the interview, I'd be like, you know, look, look

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Speaker 2: what happened to your husband. Some lunatic got into your

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Speaker 2: home with a hammer and hit him right. And this

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Speaker 2: is because in terms of policy, people like Nancy Pelosi

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Speaker 2: and other Democrats believe that you know, deranged individuals who

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Speaker 2: have a criminal record or you know, who clearly should

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Speaker 2: be institutionalized, should be free to roam the streets and

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Speaker 2: terrorize their fellow human beings because that's the compassionate thing

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Speaker 2: to do. It's it's compassionate to allow lunatics to camp

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Speaker 2: out on the streets, you know, defecate wherever they please,

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Speaker 2: you know, you know, attack ladies with you know, who

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Speaker 2: are walking their babies and strollers.

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Speaker 1: That's what.

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Speaker 2: Because it's usually for other people, it's usually other people's problems,

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Speaker 2: but Nancy found out, no, sometimes it can actually be

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Speaker 2: your problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you could even simplify it further Buck.

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Speaker 1: I think left wingers were so afraid of being called

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Speaker 1: racist that they decided policing was racist because black people

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Speaker 1: commit a huge percentage of violent crimes in this country.

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Speaker 1: It's a reality, and when police arrest black people, the

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Speaker 1: thing that white, woke, liberal college graduates fear the most

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Speaker 1: is being called racist, so they bend over backwards to

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Speaker 1: try to avoid that ever being allowed to happen. And

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Speaker 1: the result is all of us, white, black, Asian Hispanic

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Speaker 1: have to deal with violent predators on the streets that

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Speaker 1: should have never been there that continue to prey upon

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Speaker 1: people who are one hundred percent innocent. Just to bring

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Speaker 1: in full circle, you brought up this this officer who

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Speaker 1: was shot and killed the New York City, which is horrific.

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Speaker 1: He leaves behind a son who now doesn't have a dad.

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Speaker 1: The guy was arrested twenty one times. Yep.

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Speaker 2: When the judge saw this individual and it was arrest

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Speaker 2: number fifteen, didn't feel a little sinking feeling in his stomach.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the system isn't working, Maybe the system is failing

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Speaker 2: the people. When it was arrest number nineteen, didn't think

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Speaker 2: maybe it was time to give this guy a longer sentence,

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Speaker 2: give him some real incarceration to think things through, or

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Speaker 2: at least not be a threat to.

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Speaker 1: The public, no doubt. Think about how hard it is

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Speaker 1: to get arrested once. Most of our audience, I bet,

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Speaker 1: has never been arrested once. Twenty second three strike laws,

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Speaker 1: you know they got rid of. If every state should

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Speaker 1: have three strike laws.

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Speaker 2: There should be limits to it, obviously, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, you don't go three strike law if you've

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Speaker 2: you know, shot Field with the back of a tao

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Speaker 2: ten dollars three times. Obviously, but you commit three felon

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Speaker 2: these felon these away for a long time, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, and anyway that make me king for a year,

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Speaker 2: and I'd fix all this club. And unfortunately I'm not

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Speaker 2: King Buck yet.

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Speaker 1: Plenty of conversation going on right now with respect to

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Speaker 1: the southern border and the purposeful failure by the Biden

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Speaker 1: and the value of our own citizenship. How do we

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Speaker 1: Or fuck? How do I do that? Uh?

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Speaker 2: fuck how do I do that? Of course the libs

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Speaker 2: whatever you like. Clay, I had mentioned this before, but

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Speaker 2: what guys, what year was it?

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Speaker 1: Team? You guys just pulled this. What year was this? Nineteen?

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Speaker 2: It was sixty eight, a pivotal year in American politics.

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Speaker 2: I thought it might have been sixty eight back in

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Speaker 2: the in the infancy infancy of TV punditry, William F.

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Speaker 2: Buckley and Gore Vidal sitting down to give their views

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Speaker 2: of the election and things.

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Speaker 1: Things got pretty tense.

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Speaker 2: Here's a little trip down memory lane sixty eight Gore

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Speaker 2: v Rather, Gore Wait, Vidal v Buckley.

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Speaker 1: There you go play it.

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Speaker 5: You must realize what some of the political issues are here.

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Speaker 5: And many in the United States happened to believe that

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Speaker 5: the United States policy is wrong in Vietnam, and the

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Speaker 5: country and their own way politically. This happens to be

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Speaker 5: pretty much the officion in Western Europe and in the

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Speaker 5: other parts of the world. If it is a novelty

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Speaker 5: in Chicago, that is too bad that I assume that

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Speaker 5: to the point of the American democracy and something you

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Speaker 5: can imagine any of you shut up a minute.

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Speaker 3: And some people with don't Nazi, And the answer is

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Speaker 3: that they would they were well treated by people who

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Speaker 3: ostracized them. And I'm parostracizing people who egg on other

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Speaker 3: people to shoot American Marines in American solder. I know

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Speaker 3: you don't.

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Speaker 1: Crypto Nazi.

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Speaker 5: I can think of as yourself failing that.

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Speaker 3: You have.

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Speaker 1: Now listen, you.

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Speaker 3: Crypto Nazi. Let's stop that goddamn face. Let's stay plastic, gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: Let's go back to his pornography and stop making any

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Speaker 3: illusions of natural through the infantry in the last.

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Speaker 1: War, I'll sock you in the face. What do you

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Speaker 1: think would happen if we saw something like that? But

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Speaker 1: if if Trump and Biden actually got on on the

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Speaker 1: stage together, would it surprise you if it got so

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Speaker 1: nasty between the two of them that somebody had to

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Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of like I think.

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Speaker 2: I think it would by the way I think the

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Speaker 2: I think the chance of it getting so personal that

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Speaker 2: it's both must see TV and deeply unsettling for like

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Speaker 2: the future of the Republic, because this is what things

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Speaker 2: have devolved to, is very high, which is also another

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Speaker 2: reason why I still believe that they will not debate,

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Speaker 2: which would be the first time, certainly in the modern

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Speaker 2: history of the presidency that that would occur. I think

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Speaker 2: I think with Trump and Biden, it is you're Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: this guy's this guy's trying to lock you up in

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Speaker 2: bankruptcy base, no doubt, his minions are trying to destroy

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Speaker 2: your empire, trying to ruin the future for your Trump's

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Speaker 2: children and grandchildren, and wants to lock you in a cell.

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Speaker 1: Oh. I think he takes that very personally, I really do.

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Speaker 1: There's a difference between disagreeing and and hating each other.

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Speaker 1: I think at this point Biden and Trump hate each other,

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Speaker 1: and frankly, sadly, a lot of Biden and Trump's porters

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Speaker 1: hate the other side too. So the idea like that

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Speaker 1: was a very articulate near fight. I don't think that

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Speaker 1: Biden Trump would be at an articulate debate near fight.

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Speaker 1: I think it would go downhill in a hurry, and

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Speaker 1: it would not shock me if it got to the

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Speaker 1: point where you thought there might be some sort of

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Speaker 1: physical act between the two.

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Speaker 2: Trump is far more, far better at insults than Biden

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Speaker 2: is on top of everything else, and let's be honest,

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Speaker 2: at this point, you gotta think Trump's got what do

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Speaker 2: you think man? Sixty pounds? Sixty pounds, hun Biden. I

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Speaker 2: don't think they're in the same weig class.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm not sure that Biden could walk to him

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Speaker 1: on the stage without falling over. But I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: not talking about, you know, Mike Tyson against against Evander

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Speaker 1: Holyfield back in the day.

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Speaker 2: Although we might get an ear biting which I arm wrestle.

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Speaker 2: I would pay a lot of money to see them

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Speaker 2: arm wrestle.

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Speaker 1: That would be interesting.