1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Business of Sports. COVID has been so 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: devastating and to see thirty eight thousand people of Henry Park, 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: it was really emotional and rewarding. From the business side, 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: from ticket sales to jersey sale, the revenues are up. 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: Everything was really good as well as solids there. I 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: realized that at the beginning of twenty nineteen would be 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: a very unique opportunity in terms of a lot of 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: contracts being up at the same time a lot of 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: sighting young wrestlers being available to go out and start 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: a wrestling company. The country is finally deeply getting the 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: memo about how amazing the sport is. I think the 12 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: sky's a limit for MLS. Bloomberg Business of Sports from 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. This is the Bloomberg Business of Sports show 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: where we explore the big money issues and the world 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: of sports. I'm Michael barn I'm Scarlett So and I'm 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: Mike Lynch and coming up today, Blinche loves this because 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: this is all about golf. We speak about professional golfers 18 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: Michelle we West and Bubba Watson. You've heard of him, 19 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: two masters. That's read ahead on the Bloomberg Business of 20 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: sports show. But first let's look at some of the 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: top stories of the week. And Aaron Rodgers still in 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: the news. Uh. He tried to clean up all the 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: mess that happened when he went back on the Pat 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: McAfee show. Listen. And I also know how sports can 25 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: be such a uh connector and bring people together in 26 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: times of adversity. And I do realize that I am 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: a role model to a lot of people, and so 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: I just wanted to start off the show by acknowledging that, 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: you know, I made some comments that that people might 30 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: have felt were misleading, and uh, you know, to anybody 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: who felt misled by those comments, I take full responsibility 32 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: for those comments. And I'm excited about feeling better. I'm 33 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: excited about moving forward and hopefully getting back on my 34 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: team and getting back to doing when I do best, 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: and that's play involved. Now, in case anybody has not heard, 36 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: what happened Aaron Rodgers. Of course, he caught COVID uh 37 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: after a lot of people thought he was vaccinated, but 38 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: he used the phrase back in August, yeah I'm immunized, 39 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: and everybody thought, for the most part, okay, you're good 40 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: to go. And then he got COVID and then we 41 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: find out that he was not vaccinated, and then he 42 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: was fine. The packers were fined. Now that cost him 43 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: a lot of sponsorship, but at least, like a good neighbor, 44 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: State Farm is still there because they're gonna stand by him. 45 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: But he lost private health. It dropped him. What does 46 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: this mean now for him going forward and other athletes 47 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: who don't get vexed. Well, you know, even though State 48 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: Farm supported him, they said, Aaron Rodgers has been a 49 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: great ambassador for our company for much of the past decade. 50 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: There have been checks on how often the State Farm 51 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: ads featuring Rogers were shown. They're actually shown far less 52 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: over the weekend than they had been in the prior 53 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: two weekends. So the company is saying one thing, but 54 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: its actions maybe showing otherwise. Well, I understand the previous thing. 55 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: Their healthcare outfit in the state of They're based in 56 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: Green Bay, and they have a number of facilities throughout 57 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: the state of Wisconsin, and they have a mandate that 58 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: all their healthcare workers need to be vaccinated. So if 59 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: they stay with Aaron Rodgers would be quite hypocritical. So 60 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: I understand that State Farm. I think did the right thing. 61 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: They made a statement, they stood by him. He wasn't arrested. 62 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: He didn't commit a crime. I didn't assault anyone. He 63 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: simply made a choice. Um. And so I applaud State 64 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: Farm for not just overreacting and uh and and cutting 65 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: them loose. But they are reacting in that they're areas 66 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: commercials a lot less. So that that tells you that 67 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: speaks volumes it does. It's basically okay, here's a here's 68 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: a little reminder Aaron that you know, let's get back 69 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: in line. So you know, it wasn't too too long 70 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: after that when he went on and we said in 71 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: the last time we talked on the show that I'm 72 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: sorry goes a long way, and he went on the 73 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: Pat McAfee show and he was quite repentant and and 74 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: and I bought it well. And you said something also, 75 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: and it's very important, and both of you all mentioned 76 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: that first of all, he did not commit a heinous 77 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: crime when I'm talking about uh, you know, killing somebody 78 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: or this that whatever. In fact, there have been other 79 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: players that have been in the news that have done that. Uh. 80 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: So he didn't do that. Uh. And it wasn't illegal 81 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: what what he's doing. And let's put it in the 82 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: most important perspective. He has COVID, and he's a human being, 83 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: and I wish him well and I hope he recovers 84 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: from what happened. Uh. Now that brings me to the 85 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:50,239 Speaker 1: other side. Has the entire news and sports industry overreacted 86 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,119 Speaker 1: to the Aran Rodgers story. I don't think so, because 87 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: he was putting a lot of people at risk. Um, 88 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 1: just take the simple act of a huddle. What's eleven 89 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: helmets get in to hear one quarterback calling a play, 90 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: and they're in there for about fifteen seconds, and they're 91 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: in close proximity, and he's talking without a mask. And 92 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: we all know how COVID is spread. It's spread, you know, 93 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: orally and by by speaking and breathing and exhaling. And 94 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: it's been not to mention his his association, sitting on 95 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: an airplane, sitting on a bus, being in a close 96 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: quarters in a locker room. So he put a lot 97 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: of people who are complicent because staff members and coaches 98 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: have to be vaccinated. Uh, put them at risk. Right, 99 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to be vaccinated, but then he has 100 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: to follow protocol. He didn't do that. That's an issue 101 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: going forward. He has. Obviously, anybody's now to COVID. Does 102 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: he get vaccinated? If he doesn't, then he needs to 103 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: follow protocol. So what does that mean for his press conferences? 104 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: What does that mean for his workout on in the 105 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: Green Bay facilities? What does that mean for how he 106 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: uh just handles himself on the field and in the 107 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: locker room. He was fine and Aaron Rodgers fourteen thousand, 108 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: six d fifty dollars by the NFL because he violated, 109 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: like you said, Scarlett, the NFL's COVID nineteen protocols Now. 110 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: Dallas mentioned also though that the Green Bay Packers what 111 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: they were fined. Yeah, both of those, relatively are a 112 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: drop in the bucket. However, Dallas Cowboys wide receivers ceedee Lamb. 113 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: He's been fined nearly fifty thousand dollars this season. Has 114 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: nothing to do with COVID. It's for uniform violations. And 115 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: then he waved after his walk off winning touchdown against 116 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. Now, whoa I mean, wait a minute, 117 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: it's fourteen thousand dollars compared to what Aaron Rodgers makes. 118 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: That's like getting fine thirty three dollars or so. Because 119 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: he makes tens of millions of dollars per season. Ceedee Lamb, 120 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: whoa what? What what's going on here? Scarlett? What was 121 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: fascinating to me was when different people asked Lamb about 122 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: it whether this annoyed him, he said, annoy me, Nah, 123 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: confuse me a lot very much. So well that that 124 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: was the number that was put up by the National 125 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: Football League for non compliance with COVID nineteen protocols fourteen thousand, 126 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: six hundred fifty dollars. Now, in case people don't know, 127 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: the National Football League has what it's called in slang 128 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: of uniform police. At every single stadium, at every single game, 129 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: there was a player former player on each sideline with 130 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: a clipboard and he goes around and make sure players 131 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: have their socks pulled up in their jerseys tucked in. Now, 132 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: some quarterbacks have special jerseys made that aren't made to 133 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: tuck in, but they're sort of like the U Tucket brand. 134 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: They come right to the to the waistline of the 135 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: pants so it doesn't look sloppy like it's and hanging 136 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: out and so um he was. He didn't have his 137 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: socks pulled up one time, it didn't have his shirt 138 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: tucked in. Another time, and it keeps adding up and 139 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: heading up. And so for somebody that just you know, 140 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: it was focusing on getting the ball into the end zone, 141 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: I forgot to pull his sucks up to his kneecap. 142 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: You're right, it is is confusing to quote Ceedee Lamb 143 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: and does does Aaron Rodgers get fine just once or 144 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: does he get fine every time? This happens every time? 145 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: So the fourteen thousands, six d fifty could be times 146 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: five times six could be. Well, the investigation is, uh, 147 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 1: you know there there they will be looking at teaching 148 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: every instance. Yeah, well in every actually like every business. 149 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: Now in almost every home, there were security cameras in 150 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: hallways and rooms, and they're gonna look and see if 151 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: he has gone into rooms with the coach and the 152 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks, which is not supposed to do. Has he 153 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: gone into the cafeteria, has he gone into the white 154 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: lifting room, and if he has this fine could be heavier, 155 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: for it could be more like, can say, okay, six 156 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: times Aaron he did this, and then he'll get whacked 157 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: another fourteen thousand, six fifty. Now I didn't know this. 158 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: We talked about Ceedee Lamb. He was fine fifty dollars 159 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: for having his jersey untucked during a September seven game, 160 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: and in he got fined more than fifteen thousand dollars 161 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: again the same violation against the Carolina Panthers the following week. Now, 162 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: if he has another penalty like that, he's gonna face 163 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: a forties six thousand dollar plus fine. Now that that's 164 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: a lot of money just for having your shirt on tucked. 165 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: I mean, what if you want to play and of 166 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: course somebody you know, grabs you and this and that whatever, 167 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: and now the shirts untucked, and it's like, hey, what 168 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: are you gonna do? It's that that appeal to the 169 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: uniform police. Basically, you know one thing that I just 170 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: looked up the fines that are collected. Do we know 171 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: where that money goes? It goes to the NFL Foundation 172 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: to assist legends in needs. So basically a foundation that 173 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: provides medical, emotional and financial assistance to former NFL players 174 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: to retired players. Now that's about the only good thing 175 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: of the story that I like. Oh you know this 176 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: guy PG eight tour golfer Bubba Watson. He is one 177 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: two masters and he also has a new book out 178 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: and I hope you get a chance to read it. Bubba, 179 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining the show. Yeah, thank 180 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: you for having me. This is awesome. This is one 181 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: of those stupid questions because I ask a lot of them. 182 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: You know, I can't help it. What is it like 183 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: to win the Masters, not once but twice? Yes, so 184 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: when in the first Masters was a dream come true? 185 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: But you know, I personally I felt like it could 186 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: be a fluke. Um, and then the downfall afterwards of 187 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 1: the energy loss of doing all the different things with 188 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: sponsors and and family. I adopted my son two weeks 189 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: before I won the Masters in two thousand twelve. So 190 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: winning the Masters in fourteen, um, it was more of 191 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: a pride thing for myself where I proved to myself 192 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: I could actually win it. Win a second time, proved 193 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: how how my work was paying off, and and all 194 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: those things. So, I mean, when does a dream come true? 195 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: You can't. There's nothing else in sports like it, Um, 196 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: putting on a green jacket. I never liked green so much, 197 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: and so when it twice, it was an honor and 198 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: privilege to put that green jacket on and and always 199 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: be known as a Master champion and a two time 200 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: Masters champion. Yeah, you join a very elite club. In 201 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: doing so, at the same time as you achieved all 202 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: these things that you wanted to throughout your life, the 203 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: weight of that success was I was weighing down on you. Um. 204 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: People would think that you achieved everything, but there was 205 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: something else going on. What prompted you to to kind 206 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: of take a step back and take stock of what 207 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: was happening. Well, UM, I think that we all know 208 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: life is hard. And trying to achieve my goal of 209 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: being Masters Champion, trying to the best player I could 210 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: possibly be. UM, you know I missed out. UM started 211 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: focusing on some of the negatives. I focused on, you know, 212 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: not enough sleep, but focused on not training the right 213 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: way or practicing enough. I started watching the world rankings, 214 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: I started watching where I was on the FedEx Cup. 215 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: I started watching who they were talking about and what 216 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: they were talking about about me, negative or positive about me, 217 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: and it was taking me down a dark hole. Um. 218 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: With that being said, now that now bringing that off 219 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: a golf course, that that leads over to my marriage, 220 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: leads over to me being a parent, leads it over 221 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: to me being a friend where I'm just not really present. Um, 222 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: you know, you you're so focused on the this identity. 223 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: Now put the identity of a golfer on me, and 224 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: that's not who I am. It's just what I do 225 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: for a living. Um. And so it just it took 226 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: me down a dark a dark hallway, UM, dark road. 227 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: And um, I missed the boat on a lot of things, 228 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: A lot of things in my life that I missed 229 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: a boat on, and I need to get better at 230 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: and winning the masters, um once and then twice. You 231 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: you you think that's it. You're at the cream of 232 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: the crop, you're at the top of the list. But 233 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: then Monday happens and you're like, well that didn't feel anything. 234 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: That just makes it darker. But you got to do 235 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: it again, um, And so yeah, it was. It was 236 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: a it's a tough road trying to be I mean, 237 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what you're doing in life. It's a 238 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: tough road if you're trying to if all you're seeking 239 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: is to be better at your job. Um, you know, 240 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: it's it's a lonely road doing that. In the book, 241 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: you detail how you went from two pounds down to 242 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: a hundred sixty two and there was nothing physically wrong 243 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: with you according to your doctors, and it was pretty much, well, 244 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: what you've just been talking about, what why why have 245 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: you gone public with this um and sharing sharing this, 246 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: this this dark side of of of your experience. It's 247 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: a great question. UM. You know, for me to come 248 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: out basically to my lowest point was two thousand seventy 249 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: and for me to be better as a man, as 250 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: a husband, as a father, as a friend, UM, I 251 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: had to voice it. It was eating. It was basically 252 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: eating me alive inside. UM, I don't drink, I don't smoke. UM, 253 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: So you know I was. I was basically my body 254 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: was healthy except mentally was eating me alive. And UM, 255 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: so I had to get off my knees, like it 256 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: says in the first chapter of the book, and I 257 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: went to my wife who was in the kitchen that day, 258 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: and I just I just started talking to about everything. 259 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: I said, I can't live like this anymore. I have 260 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: to voice this, and so voicing it to my wife 261 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: so me and my wife's relationship could be where it 262 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: needs to be uh to create a strong marriage. UH. 263 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: And then being able to voice that to my own kids, 264 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: even though they're young. I had to voice it to him. 265 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: And it's free. It fread me up and then when 266 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: this pandemic hit, I was like, you know what, we're 267 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: sitting here, Let's do something positive in this world. And 268 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: so I wanted to share. I wanted to share my 269 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: my issues or my thoughts and let people hear it 270 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: and maybe inspire one or two people, and you know, 271 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: hopefully they realized that life is hard and they get 272 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: my story and they can relay it to their lives. 273 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: But the freeing of the of voicing it is really 274 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: what what changed my life, being able to tell people 275 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: about it and not not cringe or try to go 276 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: hide again. Um is the park that was so great, 277 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: and I believe that it would help somebody else if 278 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: they they communicate better with somebody in their lives. We're 279 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: talking with two time Master champion Bubba Watson and he 280 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: has a new book out Up and Down, Victories and 281 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: Struggles in the Course of Life and more about that 282 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: book in general about the mental health and wellness of 283 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: not just you, but many athletes out there. And that's 284 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: something we're seeing, especially within the past year and a half, 285 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: of people coming out the top athletes saying, hey, I 286 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: have to look out for my mental health. Can you 287 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: expand more on that? Yes, Um, I think this day 288 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: and age of commercialism. UM. Also social media, people can 289 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: hide behind a fake name and and call you out 290 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: or say something that's not true, and it eats, It 291 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: eats that you. We all words hurt, um, and we 292 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: all want love, we all won't respect, and we're out 293 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: there trying. We're entertainers. Athletes are entertainers. But a bigger 294 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: picture on this is for me, is is the people 295 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: that are really doing things like UM, doctors, military men 296 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: and women, nurses, teachers, police, fireman. Um. There's a lot 297 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: of people out there that are going through some tough 298 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: things and they're trying to save lives or help lives 299 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: or teach people. UM. So I think this is just 300 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: we have the platform. Athletes have the platform and we're 301 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: just now starting to use it because we are having 302 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: some issues and life is Life can lead you down 303 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: a dark road. You can start doing negative, negative things UM, 304 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: and you think that's helping you, but it's really hurting you. UM. 305 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: So we just want to share. I think athletes are 306 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: now to the point where there where the platform, we 307 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 1: have the microphone where we can help other people, not 308 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: only athletes, but people around the world. UM, anybody anybody 309 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: that's listening that that thinks they truly do UM one 310 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: of better life and let go of that stuff that's 311 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: in their heads. So I want to follow up on 312 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: that and ask a little bit about athletes relationship with 313 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: the media. And I'm thinking about Naomi Osaka, who had 314 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: said that she did not want to participate in press 315 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: conferences UM after the French Open because it was too 316 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: much and she wants to focus on her game. When 317 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: you heard that, what did you think? I I I 318 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: felt sorry for UM because I know exactly what she's 319 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: talking about. I think every athlete is dealing with it. 320 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: Some on surface, UM look like they're dealing with it 321 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: better than others. But I mean, when you get a 322 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: microphone stuck in your face every single day, I mean, 323 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just gonna take a guess, y'all y'all 324 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: feel the same way. There are certain days you just 325 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: don't feel like going to work, are There are certain 326 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: days you just don't feel your best, whatever that reason, 327 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I mean, life, life problems. You didn't 328 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: sleep very well, the food wasn't that great the night before, 329 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: whatever it is, it doesn't matter. Um. You know, you 330 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: you have a rough day, and then when you're training 331 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: all day to to to be an entertainer for the world. Uh, 332 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: it's not easy. And then you're gonna ask questions that 333 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,479 Speaker 1: don't apply anything to my life. Um, it's about somebody 334 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: else or or about some politics going on in the world. 335 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: It's like, look, I'm just an entertainer. I'm just trying 336 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: to make you smile, make you get away from politics. 337 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: That's what That's what sports is the about. Or the 338 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: questions trying to nitpick out your problems to right, asking 339 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: you to right, and that's what I'm saying, Yes, you're right. 340 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: And so you're we're looking at this and it's like, 341 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: I just want to play golf, you know. That's my 342 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: goal is to play golf and try to be the 343 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: best and whatever that sport is or whatever that entertainment is. 344 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: M as a celebrity. When you get a microphone in 345 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: your face every single day, it's not easy. I mean, 346 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm not educated enough to to answer some of these 347 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: serious questions. Uh correctly, Hey bubba um, I'm a golfer 348 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: and we all know that golf about it is between 349 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: the years. What happens on the golf course after you 350 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: revelation for yourself and this sort of this seminal moment here, 351 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: Has golf become more fun for you? Good question? Yes, um? 352 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: And And the reason why though, is now I'm doing 353 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: it because my son is nine years old and he's 354 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: starting to get into it. He's starting to get into sports. 355 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: My daughter says she wants to be a golfer like that, 356 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: and true or not, I mean, that's what she's saying 357 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: because she knows she can go to the golf course 358 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: with me. We can get snacks from the drink card, 359 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, there's things that we're doing. And 360 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: just because it's more fun for me and my family 361 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: doesn't mean I'm going to play better golf professionally. Um, 362 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: Because you know, times change. As a as a single 363 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: man in the in the twenties, you worked hard at 364 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: your game, you have nothing else to do. And then 365 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: as you get married and then you have kids, your 366 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: perspective in life, your perspective on your sport change. Uh. 367 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, it takes away from your practice and 368 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: your grind. But yes, golf is so much more fun 369 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: now knowing that my kids are watching more, they understand 370 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: it more, and they want to do it. Bubba, you 371 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head. Uh. And you're right. 372 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: Anytime you get a microphone shoved and you or when 373 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: you got to talk in this stupid thing like I'm 374 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: doing right here. Sometimes you just don't feel like going 375 00:20:54,960 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: to work. And it's what, like you said, you're an 376 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: entertainer and and our job here is to to give information. 377 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: And you do a great job with that, uh in 378 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: what you do for a living. But I would like 379 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: to ask something else. Uh. And this has to do 380 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: with your business interests, because you've got a lot outside. 381 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: You've got uh part ownership of the Double A Pensacola 382 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: Blue Wahu's baseball team. You have a car dealership, a 383 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: candy store, you've got a driving range. What's that all about? 384 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: It shows that my mind is everywhere. Um it really 385 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: it's just things that I love. I've I've bought a 386 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: lot of cars in my day. Um, I've I've eaten 387 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: a lot of candy in my day. And I love 388 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: Who doesn't love minor league baseball? I mean the excitement 389 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: of the different acts that come to the minor league 390 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: baseball games. We have a roach run all the kids 391 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: to run across in the fifth inning, to get to 392 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: run across the field to the other side. Chakes and 393 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: a costume roach um. And so you know it's just 394 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: if you look at this, these are all things that 395 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: I love to do. Um. You know, it's just, uh, 396 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: it's been fun. And my business is my businesses are 397 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: things that I enjoy, things that I actually want to 398 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: learn about it and get to know. And so it's 399 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: not gonna be like I'm going to own a bunch 400 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: of buildings and just take rent checks. I mean, it's 401 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: things that I actually want to be involved in and 402 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: do and and I have a passion for. Hey, Bubba, 403 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you what's going on with this UM 404 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: new golf league that Greg Norman is is going to 405 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: serve as the commissioner of UM. They're hoping to begin playing. 406 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: It's backed by Saudi Arabia. Do you see a need 407 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: for this? Um? That's a great question. Um, do you 408 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: see a need for this? Uh? You know, I mean 409 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: there's a candy shop right down the street from my 410 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,479 Speaker 1: candy shop. So competition is always good, right. It pushes 411 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: our employees, it pushes our our products to be better. Um. 412 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: You know, I don't need is a strong word, but 413 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: I don't know much about it. But you know, Greg 414 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: Norman has a passion for the game of golf. He's 415 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: had this passion since what the middle of the nineties. 416 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: I think he tried to start a world tour or 417 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: talked about a world tour um so, and I heard 418 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't that many people, maybe fifty people or something 419 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: forty eight people, So you know, I mean, it's not 420 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: really taken away from the PGA tour. But I don't know. 421 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: I don't know all the rules and regulations. I don't 422 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: know everything about it yet. I mean, just like the 423 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: public doesn't know either, right, Yeah, it's pretty far right 424 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: exactly so, And I mean they're not calling me every day, 425 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I don't really know 426 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: the ins and outs of it yet. So Bobba next year, 427 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: the uh new rule coming in there, shortening the driver 428 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: length from forty Is there anybody other than somebody like 429 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: me who's uh bordering a senior player that's happy about this? 430 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: I don't, you know, I don't really think. The only 431 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: one I can think of off the top of my 432 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: head was Bryson D. Shambo, And I think about Phil Mickelson. 433 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: You said champions to a player. So yeah, Phil Mickelson, Um, 434 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: those were the two that were tinkering with a longer driver, 435 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: like a forty eight inch. Um. I've never even played 436 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: a forty five inch driver, So, you know, I don't 437 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: think there's that many people where they're more focused on 438 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: accuracies in the link um, But there's only you know, 439 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: there's always gonna be a couple that try it and 440 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: tinker with it. But I don't really think it's gonna 441 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: affect the tour at all, or you know, we're not 442 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: even nobody's even face by it. Yeah, it's hard to 443 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: hit a forty inch I did a charity event this 444 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: year and it's hard to whip that thing around. Yeah, 445 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: the timing has to be just right for sure. Yeah. 446 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: I can't even handle a putter, that's all man. I am. 447 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: Bubba Watson, two time Master's champ. Uh is that with 448 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 1: his new book Up and Down, Victories and Struggles in 449 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: the Course of Life, came out just a few days ago. 450 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: Please folks go on and get it because it's a 451 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: very good read and it's one of those reads you'll 452 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: probably polish it off in a couple of nights. Bubba Watson. 453 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining the Bloomberg business of sports. 454 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: We appreciate a bubbar. I want to ask you one 455 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: final question. When I end on a nice light happy note, 456 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: that shot you made in two thousand twelve and the 457 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: playoffs is the greatest shot in the history of golf. 458 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: And every time I go out with my buddies and 459 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: we're a little bit in the woods, they just say, 460 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: pull a Bubba Watson, just just snap hook it around 461 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: the corner and knock it within ten feet And all 462 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: your times back since two thousand twelve and practice rounds, 463 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: have you ever tried that shot again? So I I 464 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: I took some buddy to play golf Augusta, and um 465 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: I walked over there to show him the shot, and 466 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: the closest caddy had a right hand instead of club. 467 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: So the only other time I've hit it, I was 468 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: a nine iron with a right handed nine iron, and 469 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: I slipped it over and hit it left handed. So 470 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: I've done it another time, just did it for the 471 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: fun of it because I was with some buddies. But 472 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: that's the only time I I tried it again, And 473 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: but I still show it off when I take buddies 474 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: to play Augusta. It doesn't it doesn't matter the result. 475 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: But it was pretty good shot in the history of golf. 476 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: That's a lot like the Tom Watson story where he 477 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: makes the incredible shot and I believe it was that 478 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: the Masters, wasn't it? And he said, and they tried 479 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: to duplicate it again and he couldn't duplicate That's amazing. Yeah, 480 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: you don't want to do it again, you already did 481 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: it want Bubba, Thank you, sir, We really do appreciate it. Yeah, 482 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: thank you a for having me. Thank thanks, thank you, Bba. 483 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: That was really neat to talk to Bubba Watson. You know, 484 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: you get the perspective when you get a pro athlete 485 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: at that level of the game and you realize, well, 486 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: pretty much a lot of the folks scarlet have that 487 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: same level, the same skills, and it comes down to 488 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: the gray matter. Uh yeah, where your head is at. 489 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: And clearly he had a lot going on for him 490 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: and with him, and it started to man itself manifests 491 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: itself in different ways. Um. One part of his book 492 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: that really stuck out at me was how he talked 493 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: about how he was losing weight rapidly, Um, and people 494 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: would go up to him and say, you look great. 495 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: What's going on? You look great? And when in fact 496 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: everything inside suggested he wasn't feeling great. He was under 497 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: extreme anxiety and stress and it was kind of eating 498 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: him alive. And Lynchy, I love the question you asked about, 499 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: is golf fund again? Because golf was killing him. But 500 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: by talking about it and and putting it out there, 501 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: he's able to reconnect with the game that he loves 502 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: and that he's devoted his life too. Well, he hit 503 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: the pause button and team he said, it's just eating 504 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: him alive. And he just went to his wife in 505 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: the kitchen. He said, you know, I've got to do 506 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: something about myself here and to get better. And so 507 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: he did. And then he said he obviously a lot 508 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: of people that do this one who share their story 509 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: and hopefully they can inspire a handful of people. And 510 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: I you know, tip my cap to him. It's not 511 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: an easy thing to do. And you know, he went 512 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: through a rough thing that they used to have these 513 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: polls on the on the PGA two of the most 514 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: unpopular player, and he was voted the most unpopular player 515 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: by almost of the players on the tours. Yeah, and 516 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: in the book, he talks about that and how that 517 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: rankled him and and that's not a moniker or a 518 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: label that he wanted to walk around with the rest 519 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: of his life. That yeah, And to be honest with you, 520 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: I mean when you'd see him on TV, I never 521 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: thought of him like being unliked. I mean sometimes he 522 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: could be intense, but unlike the way you know he 523 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: was being described in the book and write that did 524 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: bother him. And I also like what he said about 525 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: when you know, when a mic is stuck right in 526 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: front of your face, all of a sudden, you got 527 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: to come up with all these answers, and we're asking 528 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: all these stupid questions. It's you know, and sometimes and 529 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: I've seen it many times, especially in the NFL, where 530 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: you get these, uh you get some of the sports 531 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: writers and you get some of the sportscasters. Not you, Lynchi, 532 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: because you were great for Get Go. But I've seen 533 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: that happen where it was like almost like borderline harassing questions. 534 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: And I never understood You're all trying to get a 535 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: different or unique answer rather than the boilerplate response. Right, 536 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: So it's how many different ways can I ask the question? 537 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: I mean, as journalists Lynchy and bar You guys know, 538 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: when you ask a question, you don't get the answer 539 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: that you want. You ask it in a different way 540 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: than you follow it up again with a different question, 541 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: but it's the same same point that you're making until 542 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: you get something that you can run with. I always 543 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: flip this thing around and said, well, how would you 544 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: like a every night after you came off the set 545 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: after the six or eleven o'clock news, and there were 546 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: fifteen people with microphones saying, hey, Mike, you've got to 547 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: do what a uh misplaced a grammatical word in there. 548 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: You had a mixed metaphor and then you've got one 549 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: of the scores right. What it was going through your 550 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: head like saying get away from you, like bunch of mosquitoes, 551 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: like scram get right? That was live, It's over. I'm done. Yeah, gee, 552 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: that sounds like this morning. I'm sorry mondros will be 553 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: one pick that's I'm not in GM kids. Feels better 554 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: to be number one than number five. I'll wear a 555 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: number because of Mike. We have a chance to go 556 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: for three and a row. Good numbers is a good time. 557 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: When I first started wearing the number, how we just 558 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: have been proud Bloomberg Business of Sports. The number of 559 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: the week. Hey guess what it's done or game that 560 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: down and at that time for the number of the week. 561 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: And we're gonna keep it on a golf theme. Nice 562 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,239 Speaker 1: keeping it simple, Hi, Dekie Matt to Yama. He is 563 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: the money leader right now on the p G A 564 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: Tour for a season. How much has he earned? That's 565 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: the question this season? Now, I'm talking about this season. 566 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: We're doing the Oh so there's a new season that 567 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: started right This is for the p G A Tour 568 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: money leaders in season. So in other words, what's the 569 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: range that someone earns for a season? They can make 570 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: ten million um, what's the most I'm gonna say like ten. 571 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the purses get bigger every year, so you 572 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: can't really compare with Tiger one and years ago because 573 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: most of the purses now are about seven and a 574 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: half million UM. I'll be fair. Hold on, hello, let's 575 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: say we're looking at Lynch's brain ticked through all the 576 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: different possibilities here, I want to say, like two million, Scarlett, 577 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: I'll go with five. Well, Lynch, he's coming up on 578 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: stage to play plinkoh DECKI has earned two million forty 579 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: five thousand, four hundred twenty three dollars. And I was 580 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: proud of you though, Scars, like when you went high. 581 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what you're thinking big like that? 582 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: That usually works. But uh, second is Rory McElroy. He's 583 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: at one point seventy five million dollars so far. That's 584 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: a pretty big difference. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's kind 585 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: of misleaded because the season it doesn't end the calendar year. 586 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: It ends I think in the with the FedEx Cup 587 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: playoffs like an academic year. Almost. Yeah, exactly. That that's 588 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: an excellent point. Excellent point. Yeah, it's it is misleading, 589 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: but you know that's why I like to say this season, Yes, 590 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: that was that was a that was a hint. Hey, 591 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: this is the Bloomberg Business of Sports show, and we're 592 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: here each and every week at the same time US 593 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: online wherever you get your podcasts. 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