Speaker 1: Welcome to Movie Crush, a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: Hey Everybody, Charles W Chuck Bryant Here in my basement
Speaker 1: for a Friday edition of Movie Crush. And this is
Speaker 1: an official one where I set it up and I
Speaker 1: do an altro and we have five questions because I
Speaker 1: have not had this guest on before. This is Stuart Wellington.
Speaker 1: This is part two of our three part Flophouse special
Speaker 1: with the guys from the Great Great Bad Movie podcast
Speaker 1: The flop House on the Maximum Fund Network. I know
Speaker 1: Dan and Stewart and have hung out with him a
Speaker 1: couple of times, and they're both great guys. Do not
Speaker 1: know Elliott and person or I have. I think we've
Speaker 1: been on a call or two together for business, but
Speaker 1: looking forward to having him on as well. But Stuart's
Speaker 1: a great guy. He is a bar owner in Brooklyn
Speaker 1: and a comedian in that he does the Flophouse podcast
Speaker 1: and he's very funny and a super nice guy. And
Speaker 1: he turned me onto a movie in a genre which
Speaker 1: I have never really gotten into, which is to say, well,
Speaker 1: if you can even describe Ricky Oh as a kung
Speaker 1: fu movie, which we kind of get into, exactly what
Speaker 1: kind of movie this is, but it's bonkers, ape ship,
Speaker 1: over the top, gory, gross prison movie, uh, kung fu movie,
Speaker 1: martial arts movie. I don't even know how to categorize it,
Speaker 1: but it is crazy and it was a lot of
Speaker 1: fun watching it. If you are into this kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: you probably know the movie. If you were not into
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff but you are intrigued, I would
Speaker 1: suggest watching it and giving this a listen because it's, um,
Speaker 1: it's pretty fun, especially right now, just to sort of
Speaker 1: turn your brain off and watch something is uh as
Speaker 1: intense and weird and gory as Ricky Oh, the Story
Speaker 1: of Ricky. So here we go with the wonderful Stewart
Speaker 1: Wellington on Ricky Oh, the Story of Ricky. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: ground rules? Man? What can I can I not swear? Uh? Funck? No,
Speaker 1: you can't square? Square? Yeah? I can I square? Oh?
Speaker 1: This is one of like four episodes I'm recording today.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, well I'll try to make this one
Speaker 1: the worst. What movies are you recording today? Uh? Just
Speaker 1: two movies and also doing these we do these mini
Speaker 1: crushes on Monday where it's a lot of it's a
Speaker 1: fun thing I do with my co host Noel, who
Speaker 1: does the mini Crushes with me where we do a
Speaker 1: lot of engagement with the Facebook movie Crushed community. Oh fun, Yeah,
Speaker 1: those are those are a lot of fun. But I'm
Speaker 1: recording you, and then, uh do you remember do you
Speaker 1: know Adam Pranica from From a Friendly Fire? Of course
Speaker 1: I know Adam Pranica. Those duds are those suits are buds.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think we've all been in the same
Speaker 1: room together now that I think about it. Yep. So
Speaker 1: if if you had to testify you uh yeah, so
Speaker 1: those guys, uh yeah, whenever those guys, I mean, when
Speaker 1: we do shows in their town, we hang out. When
Speaker 1: they do shows in our town, we hang out. I
Speaker 1: have the advantage of owning a business that people can
Speaker 1: have after parties at that that business is a bar.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I was ambiguous all of the
Speaker 1: sum You mean you're a late night brothel. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a cool speak easy. Yeah. I was gonna
Speaker 1: ask you, like, you've got hinter Lands, what's the other one?
Speaker 1: Uh so I am. I am a part owner of
Speaker 1: hinter Lands obviously, um and my wife and I partnered
Speaker 1: up with some guys and opened up a new spot
Speaker 1: that is just over a year old in Sunset Park,
Speaker 1: Brooklyn called Mini's Bar, which is a little bit closer
Speaker 1: to the Bell House if you're looking for a post
Speaker 1: pop live podcast after party, um and um. And my
Speaker 1: wife also is a part owner of the bar Charlene's,
Speaker 1: which shares her name. Yeah. I don't know Charlene personally.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever met, but she looks like
Speaker 1: a wonderful, lovely, fun funny person. She is, she's great
Speaker 1: and luckily she is. Uh, somebody has to be the brains,
Speaker 1: you know. She just keeps me around for from a punam.
Speaker 1: So how is uh? And shout out to hentral Lands.
Speaker 1: Where is that located? Exactly? It's in Kensington, Brooklyn, right
Speaker 1: on the other side of Prospect Park Church Avenue. What
Speaker 1: how are you guys hanging in there? Man? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's I mean, in general, uh, you know, surviving.
Speaker 1: I just I just got my antibodies test. I'm full
Speaker 1: of them, so that yeah, hopefully that matters. Uh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Charlene and I both the day after the bars closed
Speaker 1: on March sixte and that day we both got sick
Speaker 1: and uh, she it was it was more mild for her,
Speaker 1: but it was still you know, a fair amount of discomfort.
Speaker 1: But for me, it was two and a half weeks.
Speaker 1: I was I was down. I was scary, but uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't I was lucky enough not to
Speaker 1: have to go to to the hospital. And uh and
Speaker 1: shar shars had asthmaal our life. So she kind of
Speaker 1: like coached me through the breathing issues, Like the shallow
Speaker 1: breathing was the scariest part because you're like, I know,
Speaker 1: I know I can take a deep breath, but in general,
Speaker 1: I just generally feel like I'm not getting enough oxygen
Speaker 1: and I'm tired all the time and I can't focus. Uh,
Speaker 1: but you know, luckily I made it through. That's my wife, Emily.
Speaker 1: That's her worst nightmare, is the the shallow breathing, like
Speaker 1: that would send her into a full on bannock. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's so scary. Like there we we
Speaker 1: joked now that there were nights when she had uh
Speaker 1: she had hit nine one and was waiting to hit
Speaker 1: it again. But uh, luckily it was never got that
Speaker 1: bad and I'm I'm through it. And uh for our business,
Speaker 1: you know, after we're both healthy again, we uh we
Speaker 1: decided to reopen the bars for takeout business to go
Speaker 1: business and doing that a little over a month, um,
Speaker 1: and you know, we're just trying to find ways to hustle.
Speaker 1: Like we're open for a few days in the after
Speaker 1: a few hours in the afternoon on weekends and on
Speaker 1: like sunny days, and the community has been really supportive
Speaker 1: and then everybody's being really generous. Uh. And we you know,
Speaker 1: we've been spending a lot of our energy trying to
Speaker 1: raise money for our staff because you know, it's like
Speaker 1: they're out of work, and so we we had started
Speaker 1: Venmo's so you know, to support those guys. Uh. And
Speaker 1: I obviously you can check my check my Twitter at
Speaker 1: flophouse cat. If you are a giving sort and had
Speaker 1: the excess of money to donate, feel free to donate
Speaker 1: to our out of work staff, although I think there's
Speaker 1: plenty plenty of other casts no people should be donating to. Well,
Speaker 1: that's amazing, man, and that's cool that you guys are
Speaker 1: helping to take care of your staff. I mean, bars
Speaker 1: and people who do live performances are getting hit the worst,
Speaker 1: and you're both of those. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I said it and I keep saying it. Uh.
Speaker 1: You always have to go people over property. If you
Speaker 1: support the people around you, they will like as a
Speaker 1: business owner, you're crazy not to to do what you
Speaker 1: can to help them. That's great. You look good, man.
Speaker 1: I like that short hair. Oh thanks man, that was
Speaker 1: did it? Did it myself in the backyard. Nice. It
Speaker 1: looks good. I shaved my head about a she's probably
Speaker 1: about a month ago. And then it's it's back to
Speaker 1: like a sort of a normal short level. Now are
Speaker 1: you thinking about changing it up at all? Mixing it up,
Speaker 1: going for like a tonsure or something something wacky. No,
Speaker 1: I did shave you know. I had that big gas
Speaker 1: beard and I shave that completely off about a month ago,
Speaker 1: and now I'm I'm to sort of short dead beard level. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you look like a like a guy who'd come into
Speaker 1: my bar and order an I p A. But not
Speaker 1: a double I p A, just a regular one. Oh
Speaker 1: thank god, I thought it was a real prick there
Speaker 1: for a second. I do love damn you. Uh so
Speaker 1: where did you grow up? I don't know a lot
Speaker 1: about your backstory, even though we've hung out a few times.
Speaker 1: Oh I yeah, I grew up in Fort Wayne, Indiana,
Speaker 1: the second largest town in Indiana. Uh, and I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like I grew up in I grew up in the suburbs.
Speaker 1: My mom was a high school English teacher. My father
Speaker 1: was a financial planner and up broker. My parents were
Speaker 1: both teachers, so I kind of thought I was going
Speaker 1: to do that. For most of my young adult life.
Speaker 1: I was an English major, and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'll just be an English teacher because I like to
Speaker 1: read and I like to write, and I don't like
Speaker 1: to physically work too hard, so that seems perfect. I
Speaker 1: think we're in the exact same boat I kind of had.
Speaker 1: I mean, I turned out I wasn't a particularly good student,
Speaker 1: so that didn't help things. But uh, and when I
Speaker 1: applied for I think I applied for Teach for America
Speaker 1: and I did okay, but I in the interview process,
Speaker 1: I think he was teaching for America. I can't remember
Speaker 1: which one I was or no, maybe it was the
Speaker 1: New York Teaching Fellows that was probably It's been a while.
Speaker 1: I I was doing pretty well until I hit one
Speaker 1: interviewer who was just not having it, who was like
Speaker 1: saw through all my bullshit, Like he saw to the
Speaker 1: core of me and was like, you're not right. For this. Uh,
Speaker 1: and he was I think he was right. Well, what, um,
Speaker 1: what were your formative movie years? Like we always like
Speaker 1: to talk to guests about their sort of like eleven
Speaker 1: to seventeen year old years and what you were into
Speaker 1: back then. Oh, I mean, I guess that's kind of tough, like, uh,
Speaker 1: growing up my mother, as I said, my mother, and
Speaker 1: my mother was an English teacher, and she was always
Speaker 1: h She always really encouraged the you know, like fantasy
Speaker 1: and sci fi. She was a huge of that stuff.
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say. She always made me
Speaker 1: watch a Dead Poet Society on the Loop. No, my
Speaker 1: mom was the one who, like when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: she was like she saw RoboCop and was like Stewart
Speaker 1: would love this. Man. I watched it, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I do love this. I am scarred for a little while,
Speaker 1: but I'll be up that and the other Another big
Speaker 1: one was Creep Show too. She was this movie is hilarious,
Speaker 1: and at that time, as a child, I did not
Speaker 1: find it hilarious at all. Now it's funny, but like
Speaker 1: that whole sequence with the raft and the like the
Speaker 1: sentient oil slick blob monster. For years I couldn't go
Speaker 1: swimming in a lake without being nervous, Like I'd always
Speaker 1: like have to pop up out of the water real
Speaker 1: quick to make sure a oil slick monster wasn't coming
Speaker 1: to strip the flesh off my bones. So your mom
Speaker 1: was basically awesome, is what you're saying. Yeah, my mom.
Speaker 1: My mom does and remains awesome. She didn't turn into
Speaker 1: a big jerk. No, she she's she's still cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: any siblings. I have a little brother, uh, and you know,
Speaker 1: we he's we're a year apart. So growing up, we
Speaker 1: you know, hate each other saying stuff. Well, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: some nixs. We did everything together and then as soon
Speaker 1: as we had the option, we never spent any time together. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I got a brother who's three years older, and that
Speaker 1: turned out to be a pretty good distance. Uh. And
Speaker 1: he was a pretty great and is a pretty great brother.
Speaker 1: So there was never like bullying or making fun of me.
Speaker 1: It was just kind of all pretty pretty great, did
Speaker 1: you guys? It was that a kind of relationship where
Speaker 1: he was able to pass down cool stuff to you
Speaker 1: so you could seem cool amongst all your friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, that's why I always asked the
Speaker 1: sibling question, because that's how so much of our culture
Speaker 1: comes to us. Is he either some influential person in
Speaker 1: your class or neighborhood. It's always someone a little older.
Speaker 1: But I have distinct memories, and I think I've talked
Speaker 1: about this before in the show of Uh. My parents
Speaker 1: are pretty strict as far as what I could watch
Speaker 1: and not watch when I was growing up, and you know,
Speaker 1: you you get to that point sooner when you're three
Speaker 1: years older. So my brother would sit up late at night,
Speaker 1: I remember, on two different occasions, and spent probably about
Speaker 1: an hour each talking me through Alien and Apocalypse Now
Speaker 1: in as much detail as possible. Yeah, it was very quiet.
Speaker 1: On a less cool version of that. I I used
Speaker 1: to run a hobby store, and I used to have
Speaker 1: this a regular at my hobby store who was a glacier.
Speaker 1: He was a Union glacier, so he would have that
Speaker 1: uh you know, installing glass Okay I didn't. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I heard that. I don't know. I feel
Speaker 1: like you're you know, uh, you know, a handy guy.
Speaker 1: I figured he'd be, though they were called glassier's. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: only when they're at a French restaurant. So he's a
Speaker 1: glacier and he uh, he would he would hang out
Speaker 1: the shop on days when he wasn't working, which was
Speaker 1: a lot, and he would just kind of sit at
Speaker 1: the hobby station, like painting his warhammer. Soldiers and whatever.
Speaker 1: Teenage boys were around would come and like sit around him,
Speaker 1: and he would regale them with tales of like movies
Speaker 1: and stuff. Like. I remember there was a day where, like,
Speaker 1: over the course of four hours, he just recounted like
Speaker 1: three or four seasons of Dexter to these kids. I'm like, okay, man,
Speaker 1: each episode ended in the same way. Yeah, exactly. Uh
Speaker 1: so yeah, And I mean I I think another big
Speaker 1: influence was for me my my mother's older brother. So
Speaker 1: my uncle. He he was a big He was a
Speaker 1: big gamer and a fantasy guy. He was also a teacher.
Speaker 1: Uh he was. He was like the kind of cool
Speaker 1: uncle that had the basement full of like board games
Speaker 1: and like sci fi paperbacks that had the best covers
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Yeah. I mean, like like it's
Speaker 1: not all Boris Vallesia or whatever Valeo, but you know
Speaker 1: it's that kind of thing. Um. You know, it's mainly
Speaker 1: like cool alien standing on top of uh like a
Speaker 1: brightly colored mountain with starships battling above him. Totally, but
Speaker 1: so he like going to visit him was always a
Speaker 1: big was you know, a big influence on me And
Speaker 1: obviously it's just defined my esthetics and whatnot. Now was
Speaker 1: that a situation where you were just sort of hovering
Speaker 1: nearby and and getting it by osmosis or was he
Speaker 1: the kind of guy that would sit you down and
Speaker 1: be like, Stewart, this is, uh, you know whatever fantasy
Speaker 1: novel and you need to read this. It was definitely
Speaker 1: not that hands on. It was a lot of osmosis
Speaker 1: and occasional like hey, Stewart should watch Stewart should watch this,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, I'll watch Nausaka. Like as a kid,
Speaker 1: I was like, I have no idea what this is,
Speaker 1: but I love it. I loved it to the point
Speaker 1: that I got in a I remember forcing my friend
Speaker 1: is at a birthday party to watch this like early
Speaker 1: English dub of Nausica and uh, I think it was
Speaker 1: just called Valley of the Wind at the time. I
Speaker 1: can't remember, um, but I remember forcing the kids at
Speaker 1: my slumber party to watch this movie and getting in
Speaker 1: a huge fight with one friend because he hated it
Speaker 1: so much. Really, yeah, he really wanted to watch The
Speaker 1: Three Stooges instead. Oh those are two different people. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: I love talking to you about the stuff and then
Speaker 1: hearing about it on the Flaphouse, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: flophouse has been I went on a long side track
Speaker 1: with the Ackerman Adam Scott you two r M podcast,
Speaker 1: but have since come back and I've got a ton
Speaker 1: of flaphouses and they have been my sav lately and
Speaker 1: anytime I'm in a really dark place, Flaphouse is has
Speaker 1: been my light for the past couple of years. It's
Speaker 1: just so fun and so awesome, and um, I love
Speaker 1: always hearing about I love that you bust the myth that,
Speaker 1: uh you don't have to be some sort of snot nosed,
Speaker 1: uh short weirdo to be into figurines in fantasy and
Speaker 1: all this stuff because you were packaged in this giant,
Speaker 1: handsome man body, but you're still such a nerd at heart. Thanks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I you know, it's it's similar to finding out that
Speaker 1: Henry uh yeah, it's a lot like finding out that
Speaker 1: Henry cavill is spending his quarantine time painting warhammer figures.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, yeah, yeah, that was That was a big
Speaker 1: That was a big deal for me was finding out
Speaker 1: that Henry cavill And, like, Who's who's the the D
Speaker 1: and D guy. I can't remember the Magic Mike when
Speaker 1: he was married or dating Sophia Rigara. Oh, magic Mike,
Speaker 1: the main guy. No, Joe Manchinello. Oh yeah, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: he's a huge D and D guy really Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, enormous he uh and and a Norman because
Speaker 1: he's very muscular, but he uh like they you can
Speaker 1: you can check it out. But they on in the
Speaker 1: when they bought a house together, he converted their wine
Speaker 1: cellar because neither he nor Sofia regard a drink apparently, uh,
Speaker 1: and they, uh, they converted their wine cellar to like
Speaker 1: a D and D. So there's like a beholder hanging
Speaker 1: from the ceiling and all his miniatures and what that's
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Do you still paint miniatures? Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I used to work for a company that
Speaker 1: did it, and I took some time off, but but
Speaker 1: now yeah, I still do it. Uh. It's I don't know,
Speaker 1: It's something I don't think i'll ever be able to shake.
Speaker 1: You know, one of those like hobbies that like any
Speaker 1: time I go away from it, on on drawn back
Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, it's something I've never like. I didn't
Speaker 1: grow up into fantasy that much. I pretended to read
Speaker 1: The Lord of the Rings, but I really didn't. I
Speaker 1: pretended to read Chronicles of Narnia, but I really didn't.
Speaker 1: And that's about as deep as I went. It just wasn't.
Speaker 1: I played D and D a couple of times, but
Speaker 1: I never dove in too hard. Um And I'm not
Speaker 1: sure why, but I could see the pleasure and the
Speaker 1: sort of zen pleasure of painting tiny things because I
Speaker 1: love small things, uh huh. And I could see that
Speaker 1: being cool. Yeah, I love like. I think I got
Speaker 1: into it initially because I like, uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: grew up with an uncle who was a big gamer
Speaker 1: and war gamer and uh and my and my father
Speaker 1: was also a big My father was really big and
Speaker 1: Napoleonic war games, which is like, those those dudes are serious,
Speaker 1: I bet at the time. I don't know what what
Speaker 1: the community is like now, but at the when he
Speaker 1: was doing in the seventies, it was like, if you
Speaker 1: don't paint their buttons right, you can't play with that model. Uh,
Speaker 1: and like and a bunch of the big sculptors from
Speaker 1: that time died early deaths because of lead poisoning, which
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the things we love. But he
Speaker 1: uh so I got into it through like liking to
Speaker 1: play strategy games and war games, um and then but
Speaker 1: over time, like it's no fun to just play with
Speaker 1: little plastic guys you want or metal guys at the time.
Speaker 1: You want you want to look like the box, or
Speaker 1: at least I did. So you know, they're they're meant
Speaker 1: to be painted, right, yeah, yeah, I mean obviously depends
Speaker 1: on the figurines. But uh my, my first love and
Speaker 1: the one that I keep going back to is always
Speaker 1: is Warhammer, which is you know, like it's a British company,
Speaker 1: Games Workshop makes it, and they I don't know they
Speaker 1: make they're like little twenty to thirty mile models that
Speaker 1: currently they're all plastic figurines that you assemble, hand paint
Speaker 1: and then you play battle games with them. And I
Speaker 1: and I used to like I and I worked for
Speaker 1: games Start Shop for seven years as a store manager
Speaker 1: and as a regional manager and a trainer. Uh yeah
Speaker 1: uh and it was a lot of fun and probably
Speaker 1: stunted my emotional growth for a while because I exclusively
Speaker 1: hung out with teenage boys or grown men with the
Speaker 1: maturity level of teenage boys. And uh, it was fun
Speaker 1: and I'm glad I'm not doing anymore, but uh, I
Speaker 1: still still love soldiers. That's awesome, man, I think that's
Speaker 1: really cool. I would love to swing by your place
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn next time I'm there and check everything out.
Speaker 1: When did you get into comedy? Uh? I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess I would say like I got into comedy through podcasting,
Speaker 1: and I got into I didn't really, you know, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't do much performing growing up. Uh. Probably just
Speaker 1: do exclusively to like fear of failure. And yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: like I remember for like school projects, if there's ever
Speaker 1: an opportunity to make like a short film, I would
Speaker 1: do those sorts of things, and those were often what
Speaker 1: I would think, they were pretty fun, but really really
Speaker 1: like actual comedy was through the podcast when Dan and
Speaker 1: I started doing it back in two thousand seven. Uh,
Speaker 1: And that was just because Dan was a UH was
Speaker 1: trying to get get involved in as many avenues, like
Speaker 1: trying to explore as many avenues for comedy. And one
Speaker 1: of the things that we did together for fun was
Speaker 1: watching bad movies and talking about it. Uh, And so
Speaker 1: we thought, hey, uh, in two thousand seven, there is
Speaker 1: not very many movie podcasts. In fact, there were very
Speaker 1: many podcasts. So I don't think I realized you guys
Speaker 1: have been around that long. Yeah, as of in August, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and August it will be what thirteen years? It's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're sort of right around there. I think we were
Speaker 1: right behind you. So if you started August of two
Speaker 1: thousand seven, I want to say we started in like
Speaker 1: spring of two thousand eight. I might be wrong on that,
Speaker 1: but that feels about right. Yeah, look at us us
Speaker 1: long beards of podcasting. Well, and it's just crazy, man.
Speaker 1: I always say that I feel like we bought a
Speaker 1: with stuff. You should know. We bought a nice little
Speaker 1: house and what turned out to be a great neighborhood
Speaker 1: just at the right time. And it would be a
Speaker 1: lot harder to make a dent now. So we wake
Speaker 1: up every morning and count my good fortunes. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing. Like, I've talked to multiple
Speaker 1: people who are much more talented and have a larger
Speaker 1: fan base in general than me, who were like, oh,
Speaker 1: do you have any tips on how to how to
Speaker 1: you know, grow your your podcast listenership. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like do it for a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that. I know that advice sucks now it
Speaker 1: kind of does because people ask us that stuff too,
Speaker 1: and like we got in at the right time and
Speaker 1: it kind of just caught hold and people's started sharing
Speaker 1: it with their friends. You can't make that happen. It's
Speaker 1: like saying, to create a viral video. Yeah yeah, actually, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what all the entertainment executives do. Give me a
Speaker 1: Marvel cinematic universe, please, uh the Yeah. For me, it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a thing where it's like,
Speaker 1: I guess, outside of doing it for a long time,
Speaker 1: I guess try to try to be positive and like
Speaker 1: learn from your mistakes and admit when you're wrong or right.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like try to grow. That's pretty funny, man,
Speaker 1: because you guys are one of my favorite parts about
Speaker 1: Flophouse is uh and it makes sense now that you
Speaker 1: guys have been doing it this long, is how how
Speaker 1: annoyed you sometimes get with one another. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I think we're uh, we we don't we don't reach
Speaker 1: the heights of the greatest podcasts in the world, The
Speaker 1: dough Boys, where where Mike and Nickwiger are constantly on
Speaker 1: a verge of of killing each other. But uh, you know, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you guys aren't like that at all. But it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's always a fun aspect of it is occasionally
Speaker 1: when and I feel like it usually comes around when
Speaker 1: you are the recapper and Elliott starts in on one
Speaker 1: of his Elliott uh Elliott Kalin uh soliloquies, and you
Speaker 1: seem to get pretty annoyed at that, which is fun,
Speaker 1: all in good fun, of course. Yeah, of course. I
Speaker 1: mean I feel like part of the I feel like
Speaker 1: part of the appeal of our show is that we
Speaker 1: are all good friends and we've put each other for
Speaker 1: a long time, and a thousand percent no one ever
Speaker 1: gets their feelings hurt. You can tell and uh, poor Dan,
Speaker 1: he's just it's so good. Like I do know you guys,
Speaker 1: so it helps. But um, I'm sure you get the
Speaker 1: same stuff that we get all the time, and stuff
Speaker 1: you should know, which is people feel like they're your
Speaker 1: friends and that that's why that's how it show becomes popular. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it also means that like if sometimes there's the occasional
Speaker 1: issue where because Elliot and I, uh, you know, part
Speaker 1: of the part of our show is that we give
Speaker 1: Dan a hard time sometimes as it really I guess
Speaker 1: I should admit to it now. Wow's but the but
Speaker 1: sometimes folks who are listeners will be like, oh, I
Speaker 1: can also give Dan a hard time and it's not
Speaker 1: the same like oh no, no, no, no no. And
Speaker 1: that's when you guys, it's like, you know, when you
Speaker 1: have a brother, you're in a fight, and then someone
Speaker 1: else comes in and then all of a sudden, the
Speaker 1: brothers are united again against the common enemy. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I can't remember which one I was recently listening
Speaker 1: to her Dan finally lost it. I'm just like, God, dammit,
Speaker 1: you guys can fucking say one thing? Yeah, uh no,
Speaker 1: I think that I happened kind of recently. It's I
Speaker 1: don't know how you are with doing shows, but uh,
Speaker 1: it is one of those things where we'll do it
Speaker 1: and then almost everything I said, except for the few
Speaker 1: things that stick in my head and make me keep
Speaker 1: me up at night regretting help in my mouth. But
Speaker 1: aside from that, everything else falls out of my brain immediately,
Speaker 1: and sort of for me a little bit for stuff
Speaker 1: you should now remember a little bit more because we
Speaker 1: have to study all that stuff. Yeah, but I mean
Speaker 1: the best part is, like Dan clearly got genuinely annoyed,
Speaker 1: but you guys, like you did not give a ship
Speaker 1: and you just kept plowing ahead and kind of laughing
Speaker 1: about it. And that's sort of the only way to
Speaker 1: handle it. I think. Yeah, yeah, we're not gonna pump
Speaker 1: the brakes too much. No, no, no. Uh. So what's
Speaker 1: your deal with bad movies? Like, I know you said
Speaker 1: you and Dan would watch them in college? Do you
Speaker 1: get tired of watching bad movies now? Or is it
Speaker 1: still kind of a pure joy? Oh? Uh? I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: I get tired of it. Uh. It's it's nice because
Speaker 1: I like, I love watching movies, and I started so
Speaker 1: I started watching bad movies in so in like high school,
Speaker 1: I had a group of friends who were the same
Speaker 1: group of friends. I would play like Dungeons and Dragons
Speaker 1: and the like World of Darkness role playing games and
Speaker 1: Shadow Run. But when we weren't doing that, we would
Speaker 1: go to like Blockbuster or Family Video and rent all
Speaker 1: the bad horror movies they had. Uh. And so you know,
Speaker 1: each weekend there'd be about like three or four tapes
Speaker 1: or DVDs, UM and we just put them on and
Speaker 1: watch them, and a lot of a lot of it
Speaker 1: was sitting around complaining about how bad they were. And
Speaker 1: so when, uh, when I moved to New York, and
Speaker 1: I didn't have that group of friends anymore. Uh, Dan
Speaker 1: and I, even though Dan and I went to the
Speaker 1: same college, we weren't we weren't friends at the time.
Speaker 1: He was a few years older than me. Uh. He
Speaker 1: was a theater guy. I was, I don't know, like
Speaker 1: a dumb guy and uh, and we would but when
Speaker 1: we were both in New York together, we would find
Speaker 1: ourselves at the same parties for uh attendees of Arlham College,
Speaker 1: and we would talk about things in general, and you know,
Speaker 1: we had a similar love of watching movies, and that
Speaker 1: led to us having our own little movie nights, and
Speaker 1: that's what led us starting the podcast. I think it was.
Speaker 1: The story I like to tell is that we there
Speaker 1: was a night when we rented when there was still
Speaker 1: a video store on Flatbish Avenue. We rented Jenny McCarthy's
Speaker 1: Dirty Love and uh, it's a fantastically bad movie. And UH,
Speaker 1: I remember sitting on the couch Dan falling asleep on
Speaker 1: the floor and snoring, and uh, yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: that was like it was that was the last movie
Speaker 1: night we did together before we started starting the podcast.
Speaker 1: Why did you move to New York? Aside from the
Speaker 1: fact that moving to New York is always a great idea, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean not this week, but yeah, exactly the now
Speaker 1: I moved to New York. Um, I was dating. I
Speaker 1: was dating a girl who wanted to work in She
Speaker 1: had a background in theater and uh, nonprofit, and so
Speaker 1: she wanted to move to New York because that was
Speaker 1: a great place to do it. And I at the time,
Speaker 1: I was working on my own comics, so I'm like,
Speaker 1: I could do this anywhere. Uh. And then we like
Speaker 1: a week before I was living in Pennsylvania before that,
Speaker 1: and right before we moved, I I saw that Game's Workshop,
Speaker 1: the hobby company was looking for managers, and I saw
Speaker 1: that they were having a recruitment day in New York,
Speaker 1: and so I went to this recruitment day and they
Speaker 1: hired me on the spot, and so I had a
Speaker 1: job before I had actually physically moved to New York,
Speaker 1: which was crazy amazing. Um. And then of course the girl.
Speaker 1: I came to New York with left, but I stayed
Speaker 1: because you know, New York's great and I'm still here.
Speaker 1: I moved to New York in two thousand three and
Speaker 1: uh yeah, it's yeah, and uh I think, And then
Speaker 1: four years later we started the podcast, and then two
Speaker 1: years after that I started dating my lovely wife and hooray.
Speaker 1: And she's a born and raised Brooklyn her. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I don't think we're going anywhere. That's super cool, man. Well, uh,
Speaker 1: everyone should support your bars, Charlene's and hinter Lands and
Speaker 1: what was the other one, the new Minis Bar. Minis Bar.
Speaker 1: It's very cute, is it small? Uh yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: all of our bars are small. Brooklyn dude like rich, Well,
Speaker 1: that's awesome, man, I can't wait to get back there.
Speaker 1: I miss h hanging out with people in person. And
Speaker 1: Dan was able to come by when we did our
Speaker 1: last bell House shows one night, which was nice. I
Speaker 1: think you were working and I was supposed to go
Speaker 1: to your bar and wasn't not able to, so we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to hook that up. I remember the last
Speaker 1: time I got to one of your shows in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: It was like three days after the bar had opened,
Speaker 1: and I like, my every part of my body hurt,
Speaker 1: and but it was it was a fun it was
Speaker 1: a great check. Well, thanks dude. So I think let's
Speaker 1: move into Ricky Oh, The Story of Ricky or is
Speaker 1: it Ricky Ho, because it sounds like you're saying Ricky Ho.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think his character's name, depending on which
Speaker 1: dub or sub you're watching, his the character's name is
Speaker 1: Ricky Ho. But the title, the name of the movie
Speaker 1: is Ricky Oh. Right, Ricky Oh, the Story of Ricky,
Speaker 1: which is uh. So, I guess let's talk kung fu
Speaker 1: movies and martial arts movies because I was always a
Speaker 1: guy who wanted to like those movies and wanted to
Speaker 1: be one of those guys that knew all that stuff
Speaker 1: about those movies, but I just never tried them out
Speaker 1: that much. Um, sort of like with D and D. Like,
Speaker 1: some of these cultures like really appealed to me, but
Speaker 1: I always stopped short of investing time in it. And
Speaker 1: so this is legit one of the uh first times
Speaker 1: I've ever seen a movie like this, like all the
Speaker 1: way through. Oh wow, okay, okay, Well, I feel like
Speaker 1: it's it's a little tough because there are no movies
Speaker 1: like this. There is only this movie. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have anything to compare it to it.
Speaker 1: I think some pieces of like some Bruce Lee movies
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but this is really Uh is
Speaker 1: this a sub genre or what? How do you classify this?
Speaker 1: This is uh, well, this is a crazy movie. Uh.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's based on it's based on a Japanese manga,
Speaker 1: um and it's a Chinese production, and it obviously has
Speaker 1: a lot of martial arts elements in it. Um. But
Speaker 1: there's also like a lot of like crazy practical monster
Speaker 1: effects in it. It is such a gory movie. I
Speaker 1: think at the time it was it got like the
Speaker 1: like the the equivalent of like an X rating in China.
Speaker 1: It was the first, it was one of the first
Speaker 1: movies do so that wasn't actual pornography, uh, because it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's a very gory, gross movie. Um. But obviously that's
Speaker 1: for me, that's part of the charm is because of
Speaker 1: how how nuts it is. Yeah, I mean, I had
Speaker 1: a great fucking time watching this movie. I will say that,
Speaker 1: And I think you can turn me onto a genre
Speaker 1: that I will explore more for sure. Um, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't mean to distance this from martial
Speaker 1: arts movies in a way, because you should watch more
Speaker 1: martial arts movies. There's some there's a there's so many
Speaker 1: out there, there's so many good ones, uh, both current
Speaker 1: but also like, oh man, like there's so many great
Speaker 1: Jackie Chan movies. Yeah. I've seen a couple of those actually,
Speaker 1: now that I think about it. But this is different. Yes,
Speaker 1: this is this is not a Jackie Chan movie. No,
Speaker 1: it's not. I was gonna I just got the I
Speaker 1: just got Police Story and Police Story two on the
Speaker 1: Criterion collection blue rays, and so long since I've seen them.
Speaker 1: I got those. I got those the same day that
Speaker 1: I went and saw Avengers Endgame, a movie I like
Speaker 1: a lot, But watching rewatching Police Story the same day,
Speaker 1: I'm like, the Avenger stuff is cool, but Jackie Chan
Speaker 1: beating up thugs just using a car as a jungle
Speaker 1: gym so cool. Yeah, And there's something to be said
Speaker 1: for like what brings you joy? Um, it's kind of silly,
Speaker 1: but it's a rudimentary question that one might ask oneself,
Speaker 1: Like Avengers movies are awesome, but you probably had more
Speaker 1: fun watching Police Story again. Yeah, uh, maybe without the
Speaker 1: romantic plotline stuff, but everything else is so good. Oh man,
Speaker 1: that that mall stuff. Oh wow, I think I've seen
Speaker 1: police story and um, what was I just gonna say? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure this is doesn't even qualify. But
Speaker 1: I did watch a lot of the early John Wu stuff,
Speaker 1: which I thought was amazing. I mean it's a little different,
Speaker 1: but I mean there's uh I feel like they obviously
Speaker 1: have some connections. I think the like the way that
Speaker 1: the some of the action is shot. Obviously, scholars will
Speaker 1: probably say I'm a fool, but but I think like
Speaker 1: the bullet ballets of John Wu have some grounding and
Speaker 1: martial arts traditions. Well, this movie was batshit crazy. I
Speaker 1: had a ton of fun watching it. Um. The story
Speaker 1: is about well, it's the story of Ricky. And it
Speaker 1: has another element which I'm a huge fan of, uh,
Speaker 1: is that it's a prison movie. I love love prison movies,
Speaker 1: and this movie is set in in two thousand one
Speaker 1: when all prisons have become privatized, which is weird to
Speaker 1: watch and seeing that reality sort of playing out. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, it's so it is kind of fun to watch. Uh.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously this is a prison movie, and it's
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll talk about all those things. But I
Speaker 1: love that it is in twenty two one. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: what year to come out? And I d h, Yeah
Speaker 1: it came out in ninety one, but it looks like
Speaker 1: it came out in eighty three. Yea, yea, and in
Speaker 1: all the best ways. So I have a question. I
Speaker 1: think you are You're the man to answer this. I'm
Speaker 1: watching this movie. I'm having I'm having a great time.
Speaker 1: I'm laughing, uh at the poor dubbing is always great
Speaker 1: and funny. The weird voice actors that they use are
Speaker 1: always amazing and funny, and all the super goryous ship
Speaker 1: is so funny to me. Yeah, what is the intention
Speaker 1: of the filmmaker in these movies? Oh? Well, I mean
Speaker 1: I think that's tough. Like I there's I feel like
Speaker 1: there's a way that you can look at a movie
Speaker 1: like like look at something like Black Dynamite, for instance,
Speaker 1: which is a movie that is big and crazy and
Speaker 1: has over the top action and is at the same
Speaker 1: time clearly intended to be funny, like it's clearly meant
Speaker 1: to also be like a comedy. Um, whereas I can't
Speaker 1: tell with this movie I think. I think there's stuff
Speaker 1: where they're like, yes, this is over the top and silly,
Speaker 1: but that's that's what this movie is. Like, they're deadly
Speaker 1: serious about how silly it is. Um, but it's it's tough.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't tell you. It's maybe it's lost
Speaker 1: in translation. For me, I don't know. Um, but the
Speaker 1: I watch it, I don't. I don't know if I've
Speaker 1: ever watched this movie dubbed. I must have, but i've
Speaker 1: the copy I rewatched. Was I watched subtitled? Uh, And
Speaker 1: so there's obviously and I think the I'm sure there's
Speaker 1: differences even there between those subtitles and the dubs. So
Speaker 1: like I'm guessing that some characters might even be named differently. Uh.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I can't tell. I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily think it's I feel like if sometimes if a
Speaker 1: filmmaker shows their hand too much and they try and
Speaker 1: play it too safe. It can be safe in the
Speaker 1: sense that you're like, oh, we're doing this silly thing,
Speaker 1: but we know it's silly, so it's okay. Uh, it
Speaker 1: can be at least for me, it can be a
Speaker 1: little distancing, whereas a movie like this is so it's
Speaker 1: not winking at me like it is doing this. This
Speaker 1: is the movie it is. I am able to enjoy
Speaker 1: it more. I guess, Yeah, that makes sense. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's an earnestness to it, I think, and it is
Speaker 1: a genre where U ramping up and and trying to
Speaker 1: best and outdo other films in the creativity of the
Speaker 1: kills and the gore factor and maybe some of the
Speaker 1: camp as well. Um, it feels genuine and I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna speak for the filmmakers, but
Speaker 1: it seems like they genuinely love this stuff and they're
Speaker 1: trying to outdo other movies. But I'm sure they know
Speaker 1: like this is also a lot of fun and it's
Speaker 1: People shouldn't go into it just thinking it's like a
Speaker 1: like a scary Kung fu prison monster movie. No, no, no, exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just the way it's edited at times
Speaker 1: where there's there's a shot where he's fighting I can't
Speaker 1: remember there the he's fighting one of the gang leaders
Speaker 1: and he slaps him in the back of the head
Speaker 1: and his eyeball pops out of his head. It hits
Speaker 1: the ground and immediately a group of crows fly down
Speaker 1: the hulls my favorite part. Dude. It was so batshit crazy.
Speaker 1: I loved it every time something like that happened. And
Speaker 1: my wife heard me laughing in the other room. She's like,
Speaker 1: what are you watching. I was like, I don't even
Speaker 1: know what I'm watching, but it's it's kind of amazing.
Speaker 1: And I think the key to of a movie like
Speaker 1: this is to, you know, sort of get in and
Speaker 1: get out in ninety minutes. Um, keep it moving. So
Speaker 1: much stuff in this ninety minutes. I was just I
Speaker 1: was trying to think of if I was like, if
Speaker 1: I was trying to do a hard summary of all
Speaker 1: the action of story of Ricky. It feels like a
Speaker 1: two hour movie, easy two and a half hours, just
Speaker 1: because of how much actual, how many characters there are,
Speaker 1: and how much stuff is happening. And I feel like
Speaker 1: part of the joy of the movie is that it
Speaker 1: never lingers too long. It just keeps moving. Yeah, it's great, No,
Speaker 1: it's always I mean it goes from I mean a
Speaker 1: movie like this, there is a plot, then a story
Speaker 1: per se um, and in fact there's not even per
Speaker 1: se there's now that I'm thinking about sort of the
Speaker 1: flashbacks and Ricky and his girlfriend and what got him there.
Speaker 1: It is the story of Ricky. Um, but you're really
Speaker 1: there to to see the next amazing funked up thing happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's there's a lot of those. I mean, so
Speaker 1: I like that. So it's a you know, we said
Speaker 1: that it's a in a privatized prison. It's two thousand
Speaker 1: one in this harsh future. We've addressed that. Our hero
Speaker 1: is Ricky, who is a young master of a breathing
Speaker 1: technique called key Gong, and that gives him super strength.
Speaker 1: Although I think he was always strong, It's tough to tell, uh,
Speaker 1: And he has he is inducted into prison and he
Speaker 1: has bullets still lodged in his chest from being shot
Speaker 1: by a gangster. He keeps, Yeah, he keeps his souvenirs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's great. When they're first checking him into the prison
Speaker 1: and the X ray machine goes off and they're like,
Speaker 1: get him over there, he's got like a bomb in
Speaker 1: his chest. But I also like that. Every So Ricky
Speaker 1: spends the rest of the movie dismantling people, like physically completely,
Speaker 1: Like he's punching people's hands off, punching their guts out, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: But all of these fights are started by by someone else.
Speaker 1: They're always attacking him. Uh that he even when he
Speaker 1: has defeated an enemy who he had has just punched
Speaker 1: their face off, he is still trying to save their life,
Speaker 1: whether it's Tarzan who he's trying to save from being
Speaker 1: smushed by the industrial compactor that's in the prison self
Speaker 1: or something, or when when that gang leader is trying
Speaker 1: to strangle Ricky with his own intestines, Ricky is still
Speaker 1: trying to save their lives. He is, And that's one
Speaker 1: of the key points of the movie and of the
Speaker 1: character is that um in his mind, he's he's just
Speaker 1: a prisoner along with all of them and the real enemy.
Speaker 1: And don't you say you haven't seen the dub version.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the narration says in the subtitle,
Speaker 1: but at the beginning with the narration is very kind
Speaker 1: of flatly laying out what the deal was in the prison.
Speaker 1: He says, the warden is the most powerful man in
Speaker 1: this prison. After him, it's the assistant warden. Yes, that's
Speaker 1: a warden who you get the most face time with
Speaker 1: and is actually played by the father of the actor
Speaker 1: who played Ricky. Oh no way, Yeah, father son team.
Speaker 1: I guess he had been an accomplished actor on in
Speaker 1: his own right and then after at some point retired
Speaker 1: to just he his son's like coach, agent, etcetera. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: that's amazing. His um. Yeah, he's he's one of the
Speaker 1: great carriacters in this movie. And his um his office
Speaker 1: is set up when you first meet him, he's got
Speaker 1: a a desk like this huge executive desk with this
Speaker 1: just enormous buffet spread and in two chefs serving him,
Speaker 1: and then a wall of porn vhs days right behind them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got a complete like stuffed like end of end
Speaker 1: of shelf to end of shelf library like you know
Speaker 1: that he had had to make some hard choices, put
Speaker 1: a couple of tapes in a cardboard box somewhere because
Speaker 1: they didn't fit. Yeah, and he is he is missing
Speaker 1: an eye, which you know, there's so much eyeball play
Speaker 1: in this movie. It's I don't know what the count
Speaker 1: is for eyeballs, gouging out, popping out, um, being placed
Speaker 1: back in heads only to come out again. And his
Speaker 1: eyeball is You learn this because it's in a glass
Speaker 1: of water that he's drinking, and that's the reveal that
Speaker 1: that's his eyeball, which he apparently can keep. What is
Speaker 1: it he squirts out of it at one point? What
Speaker 1: was that? Mints? Oh? So that was for real no
Speaker 1: jokes in this movie. It's so crazy. I mean, what
Speaker 1: what is that all about? Would you like a mint
Speaker 1: and stim out of his eyeball? People? I have no idea,
Speaker 1: And I'm also like trying to wrap my head around
Speaker 1: the idea of like so that the eyeball was some
Speaker 1: completely submersion water. The fake I was completely submersion water.
Speaker 1: Are the mints not or maybe that was the point,
Speaker 1: Like the mints are supposed to like freshen up the
Speaker 1: water for him. I don't know. It was so good
Speaker 1: you should also address that in addition to having a
Speaker 1: fake I, he also has like a like a Bond
Speaker 1: villain style fake claw hand. He's got a claw hand
Speaker 1: that he uses. Yeah, he's had sort of a double
Speaker 1: hook that he uses to um which brings up another point.
Speaker 1: But he has a hook that he uses to drag
Speaker 1: people by the mouth of various places throughout the movie. Um,
Speaker 1: but the at one point he is he is clicking
Speaker 1: the two hooks together as if their fingers and the
Speaker 1: whole time, I was like, is it is that like
Speaker 1: connected to his tendons and stuff? Like, how is that happening? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I I am not going to
Speaker 1: guess at the at the prosthetic technology two thousand one. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't explore. I didn't interrogate that too closely. Of course.
Speaker 1: Another thing I loved about this movie is uh. And
Speaker 1: by the way, when people like listening haven't seen this
Speaker 1: and they hear Stuart say punch their guts out and
Speaker 1: punch their face off, like, you mean that literally, that's
Speaker 1: literally what happens. Yeah. Yeah, I mean all these things
Speaker 1: literally happen. I mean the I would say, if those
Speaker 1: words uh completely turn you off, I would recommend not
Speaker 1: watching this movie. Otherwise, totally watched this movie right, um,
Speaker 1: but he is. The thing I love about this movie
Speaker 1: is how much everyone survives oh yeah, like literal disembowments,
Speaker 1: yet they will rise back up and fight again. It's amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's I mean, I guess it. It
Speaker 1: reminds me of it points out I guess that this
Speaker 1: movie has it comes from a like a violent manga,
Speaker 1: and I feel like it reminds me of some like
Speaker 1: violent manga books, like whether it's Fist of the North Star,
Speaker 1: the Diver or things like that like that that those
Speaker 1: comics that I would read as a kid and love
Speaker 1: because of how horrifically gory they all were. Did you
Speaker 1: did you read this one? I have not read this one,
Speaker 1: nor have I. I've never read the I've never read
Speaker 1: the book, nor have I. I I don't. I don't actually
Speaker 1: know if it's readily available without going to a you know,
Speaker 1: like going to a piracy site, right, uh, And nor
Speaker 1: have I tried to track down There's apparently a a
Speaker 1: somewhat connected sequel to this movie, uh that was made,
Speaker 1: but I'm not a hunt. Like there's conflicting reports as
Speaker 1: to whether or not it exists or if it if
Speaker 1: it is actually a sequel. Well, the guy who plays
Speaker 1: Ricky is fantastic, Like he's got the body, he's got
Speaker 1: the looks like he's a total badass in this movie.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, his moves are cool. He's got
Speaker 1: that rage that builds up when he closes his fist
Speaker 1: fist every time, Like it's it's interesting that he can
Speaker 1: like sometimes he's just punching people and sometimes he's punching
Speaker 1: through people when he can summon that extra power, I guess,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, the key gong and he uh and it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's rage built on the hatred of the
Speaker 1: injustice of an unjust society. Uh. That that actor I
Speaker 1: was I was looking him up on IMPB in preparation
Speaker 1: for this, and uh he has gone on to Uh
Speaker 1: he's in the ip Man movies, a couple of the
Speaker 1: ip Man movies, which is uh, if you're looking for
Speaker 1: a martial arts series, I would recommend checking those out.
Speaker 1: Jo Yeah, all right, Uh, they're great. I don't know
Speaker 1: what kind of martial arts this is. I'm not well
Speaker 1: schooled in the various disciplines, but whatever this one is,
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of. When they're actually doing the
Speaker 1: real stuff. The a lot of I feel like the
Speaker 1: matrix sort of gank some of this, a lot of
Speaker 1: like the straight arm punching and very sort of dance
Speaker 1: like sort of ballet like really really pleasant to watch
Speaker 1: to the eye, very fluid, very pretty. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure the Waikowskis were uh, you know, they clearly
Speaker 1: were wearing that influence on their sleeve and bringing bringing
Speaker 1: that style of martial arts to uh you know Western
Speaker 1: audiences is awesome and obviously turned out turned out pretty well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it worked out pretty well for the Wikowski's. Um. There's
Speaker 1: also some beautiful shots. I mean, I don't want to
Speaker 1: it is a fun kind of crazy movie, but uh
Speaker 1: and very campy. But like that shot in the rain
Speaker 1: when he's just so upset and he's doing all this
Speaker 1: sort of solo kung fu in the rain, Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: That's after he uh he put the the rebuilt toy.
Speaker 1: Uh what train? Uh toy at the dead guy? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What a Yeah, Well that's you know, that's that's this movie.
Speaker 1: People are treated poorly and then uh some justices found
Speaker 1: in through violence. Yeah, that guy man he gets uh.
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like the first fifteen minutes of
Speaker 1: the movie or that guy just being a fucking punching bag.
Speaker 1: But that's that's part of like I feel like that
Speaker 1: also has its roots in uh that kind of like
Speaker 1: like a prison movie or a lot of exploitation movie
Speaker 1: is the you know, you you have to you have
Speaker 1: to build up the villains to be so villainous yea,
Speaker 1: so like unreasonably villainous. So that are you don't feel
Speaker 1: bad when the hero punches their hands and faces off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I mean, like he said, we he's usually ends
Speaker 1: up siding with the person he just fought because they're
Speaker 1: all a part of this system that's keeping them down,
Speaker 1: and the two real villains in the movie, or the
Speaker 1: assistant warden. And then finally you get to meet the
Speaker 1: warden kind of in the last act, who comes in
Speaker 1: sort of dressed like a pimp and he has this
Speaker 1: weird idiot man child. So it's just so disturbing somehow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they well like that combination of like, well this obviously
Speaker 1: like pampered, spoiled child. Uh, that is seems to be
Speaker 1: there in part for comic relief, but it's it's next
Speaker 1: to this like terrible, vicious Warden character. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a little tough. But also I don't know, they're
Speaker 1: they're they're horrible bad guys that I think the end
Speaker 1: when he when the sun finally shows up with the
Speaker 1: literal sort of beanie schoolboy outfit, and we should point
Speaker 1: out he's not like eleven, he's you know what, in
Speaker 1: his twenties or something looks like it. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I didn't even know they sold like short shorts and
Speaker 1: like like little school uniforms for twenties some things, but
Speaker 1: you know whatever, Yeah, I feel like he was modeled
Speaker 1: after after the guy in Pee Wee Herman who at
Speaker 1: Francis Yep, yeah, I can see, yeah there they come
Speaker 1: from the same family. The Yeah, so this warden character
Speaker 1: who they address is the has to be the very
Speaker 1: best at kung fu. He's the toughest guy in the
Speaker 1: prison in addition to being in charge. Uh and he
Speaker 1: also he he has a big bald spot. But when
Speaker 1: you look at it, it's very clearly shaved. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: it's it's a very clear choice that this guy is
Speaker 1: supposed to look like this. Uh And I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's to match the warden from the comics. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's to match a stereotypical like asshole character, but it's
Speaker 1: it's such a choice. Yeah, it's like what Johnny Depp
Speaker 1: did when he played Hunter S. Thompson. If you're looking
Speaker 1: for a visual as a listener, he has shaved his
Speaker 1: head into the form of male pattern baldness, which that
Speaker 1: would be a wacky thing to do during uh, the quarantine.
Speaker 1: I think that'd be fun. Yeah, we give it a spin.
Speaker 1: Why not? I was kind of hoping that when we
Speaker 1: started this scut call, you would come on and I
Speaker 1: have already done that. That would be so great. Another
Speaker 1: favorite part of this is when every time something huge happens,
Speaker 1: like he punches, like there's another fight and he disembowels
Speaker 1: somebody or literally he punches up through under someone's chin
Speaker 1: and back out the mouth and rips out the jaw.
Speaker 1: The guards will come in and just be like, hey,
Speaker 1: you you're coming with me? Yeah, I mean they do.
Speaker 1: All the prison guards are the like laziest, shittiest jerks
Speaker 1: who are also like they are barely surprised by any
Speaker 1: of the horrible things they see. Uh. They all take bribes,
Speaker 1: they're all monsters. Uh and so yeah, when they like
Speaker 1: put on and then later on they're trying to break
Speaker 1: up a riot and they put on the like silliest
Speaker 1: spiked shoulder pads and everything, and it's and like like
Speaker 1: cheap plastic equipment that Ricky just punches right through. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I mean, this is this is the worst prison.
Speaker 1: And it's like the hatred and vitriol for this system
Speaker 1: is like dripping off the screen and I feel like it,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like watching rewatching this movie tonight. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I really need to see somebody go and punch through
Speaker 1: a shitty unjust justice system. Yeah, no kidding, man, we
Speaker 1: could we could use that right now. Uh, let's talk
Speaker 1: a minute about the fight with Oscar in the prison yard. Um,
Speaker 1: this is one of the best ones where Ricky is
Speaker 1: cut through the forearm very deeply, and you think he's
Speaker 1: done for because he can't punch, but he and he
Speaker 1: gets he gets ground up glass thrown in his eyeballs, right,
Speaker 1: so he's which came out of which? Can't did it?
Speaker 1: Did that come out of the eyeball of the assistant
Speaker 1: warden or now I believe the ground up glass was
Speaker 1: in the sheath of the assistant warden gave to Oscar. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, that makes more sense. That's why I was
Speaker 1: getting confused with the ments in the eyeball. And at
Speaker 1: this point Oscar is fighting with his shirt off so
Speaker 1: you can see his his tattoos, which one of the
Speaker 1: one of the other inmates says, once you see those tattoos,
Speaker 1: you're dead. He doesn't show off his tattoos unless he's
Speaker 1: going to kill you, that's right. And he's super buff.
Speaker 1: Um all the guys in here superbuff generally, and I
Speaker 1: guess Ricky it looks like he ties his own tendon
Speaker 1: together and heals him using his teeth. Yeah, he heals
Speaker 1: himself after and he washes the glass out of his
Speaker 1: eyeballs using a busted water pipe. That was a pretty
Speaker 1: sweet move, actually, I forgot about that. Breaks out with
Speaker 1: his elbow and that, and then as soon as he's
Speaker 1: tied his tends back together, he is fine. And then
Speaker 1: he proceeds to dismantle his opponent completely. Yeah, that's when
Speaker 1: he also tries to save his life. That's right, that's
Speaker 1: when he disembowels the guy and he runs over and
Speaker 1: the guy literally pulls Oscar pulls out his own gut
Speaker 1: and tries to choke Ricky out with them. Yep, uh
Speaker 1: doesn't work, big mistake. I admire his spirit, I think, Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know which which translation used, But
Speaker 1: did the assistant warden praise Oscar for having guts this moment?
Speaker 1: He did, Oscar, You've got a lot of guts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a pretty great joke. And then we get
Speaker 1: Oscar's godson, who's we learned his tongue has been cut out,
Speaker 1: and the way he goes is his face is ripped off. Huh,
Speaker 1: and he gets punished for what siding with Ricky by
Speaker 1: like learning how to because Ricky. I don't know if
Speaker 1: we haven't mentioned this. Ricky in addition to his battling abilities. Uh.
Speaker 1: He his martial arts technique involves breathing. So of course
Speaker 1: he went to music school to study the flute. That's right.
Speaker 1: So he and an Oscars what gods son? Yea? They
Speaker 1: bond over a mutual love of the flute. They do,
Speaker 1: and um Oscar's godson is is a pretty interesting character. He,
Speaker 1: like I said, he ends up getting his face ripped off,
Speaker 1: which is I had a hard time kind of choosing
Speaker 1: between the best kill? Do you have one? Oh? Wow? Uh?
Speaker 1: I mean the I think one of the one of
Speaker 1: the best ones is when Tarzan clasps his hands together
Speaker 1: on the guy's head and it explodes. I think that
Speaker 1: was a clip that was using the Daily Show. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know. The assistant Warden getting shot with a
Speaker 1: gun meant to kill elephants and blowing up and then
Speaker 1: exploding was pretty good, Like yeah, fat Coto in uh
Speaker 1: live and let die or oh man, I don't know,
Speaker 1: there's so many good ones. Uh when he when he
Speaker 1: punches uh, what's his name? The giant guy silly Lung,
Speaker 1: I think was the translation I had the Gang of Four. No,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the giant naked guy that attacks him
Speaker 1: in the showers, which is the when he punches his
Speaker 1: guts out. That was pretty gross, right, So it's tough.
Speaker 1: I don't make me choose. It's it's like choosing between
Speaker 1: my children, chuck when the which is also great, just
Speaker 1: the props that they use in this movie. The warden
Speaker 1: has a heart attack and they bring out three jars
Speaker 1: of what are clearly like children's candies, look like hot
Speaker 1: Tamali's and things that are stubbing for these giant bills.
Speaker 1: So he's able to cure his heart attack with those candies,
Speaker 1: which is very great. Yeah. I mean he's he's trying
Speaker 1: to keep the beast within him still within him, you know,
Speaker 1: he's trying to keep it under control, which later on
Speaker 1: in the movie he allows that beast out to terrifying results. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, there's a lot to love about
Speaker 1: the kills, but I think my favorite sequence was the
Speaker 1: cell fight with the giant when he goes under the
Speaker 1: chin and through the mouth and rips his face off.
Speaker 1: And then when their fists meat and he punches that
Speaker 1: guy's hand off. Pretty pretty great. It's really gross. It's
Speaker 1: so gross, and he's and he's revives this. He is
Speaker 1: uh he almost survives his encounter with Ricky, only to
Speaker 1: uh to be smushed by that compactor that was started
Speaker 1: by the warden or the warden. But again, Ricky tries
Speaker 1: to save him. Ricky always tries to save him. He tries.
Speaker 1: He gives everyone a chance. Well, and you know, like
Speaker 1: I said, there is some story here. We do learn
Speaker 1: that Ricky has lost his girlfriend, his like true love.
Speaker 1: Um that what was it at the hands of a
Speaker 1: drug dealer. Yeah, I think she gets She wakes up
Speaker 1: in a in like a drug den and she witnesses them,
Speaker 1: uh like doing a drug deal or something, and she
Speaker 1: freaks out and runs through an apartment building and they
Speaker 1: chase her to the roof and she runs off of
Speaker 1: the top of the roof. Likes super Dave Osborne is
Speaker 1: yet another great special effect moment is throwing dummy off
Speaker 1: the roof throw me off the roof. Well, but that
Speaker 1: revenge scene is great, and that's where we learned about
Speaker 1: the five bullets. That's you know, the story kind of
Speaker 1: comes around full full icle at that point. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it teases it early that. I mean, that's storytelling, Chuck.
Speaker 1: You tease it early on because people people are gonna
Speaker 1: spend the rest of the movie wondering how do you
Speaker 1: get those five bullets. By the time that you get
Speaker 1: to it, you already love the character and you want
Speaker 1: to see whatever you want to and you're like, how
Speaker 1: did he get so strong? Of course, his uncle throws
Speaker 1: gravestones out him in a cemetery and he punches and
Speaker 1: kicks them or snatches them with his chest and head. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was great. I mean, I think every I know
Speaker 1: enough about martial arts and kung fu films that you
Speaker 1: have to have a great flashback to a training scene.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and this is one of the great ones
Speaker 1: in the Graveyard. It's it's pretty spectacular. Yeah uh yeah.
Speaker 1: So the movie dolls out information. It's not it's not
Speaker 1: a straightforward story like you'd expect. Um every time. It's
Speaker 1: so funny because there's never there's not like a continuity
Speaker 1: of consequences. Um, there's a big fight and the guards
Speaker 1: come and get Ricky, but then he's just sort of
Speaker 1: in gin pop again somehow. Uh, there's never like a
Speaker 1: solitary or anything like that, and they keep having various
Speaker 1: like they try to bury him in concrete, they put
Speaker 1: him in this spider web like rebar cage, and uh,
Speaker 1: it's so funny. When I was watching, they stuff his
Speaker 1: mouth full of razor blades and literally while they're doing that,
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, he is going to spit those
Speaker 1: back into your face. And that's exactly what happens. And
Speaker 1: taking all these injuries, Uh, he heals very quickly. You
Speaker 1: do not see evidence of his his various stabbings the
Speaker 1: next scene. No, no, not at all. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: It is kind of interesting at first, so I think
Speaker 1: it brings up one of the one of the interesting
Speaker 1: things about this movie is because, uh, there they try.
Speaker 1: Everyone tries to stop or kill Ricky, and then they
Speaker 1: try and get him to join them, and then they
Speaker 1: try and stop or kill Ricky again, and none of
Speaker 1: these are very successful, obviously, But it also makes me
Speaker 1: wonder how he got arrested in the first place. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe he had faith in the system, or maybe
Speaker 1: deep down he was like, the roots of this corruption
Speaker 1: have to go all the way to a corrupt prison system.
Speaker 1: So I am going to allow myself to be captured
Speaker 1: so I can go to this prison, clean it up,
Speaker 1: burn the poppy fields that are hidden inside the prison,
Speaker 1: and defeat the warden. But who knows. I don't Maybe
Speaker 1: he doesn't have that much forethought. Yeah, that's true. You
Speaker 1: never do see how he got there. You see the
Speaker 1: backstory of his girlfriend and why he is a damaged man.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, that's interesting. Maybe maybe his faith in
Speaker 1: the system had not been eroded yet, and luckily he
Speaker 1: has become by the end of the movie, has become
Speaker 1: radicalized like many of us. At this point, I think
Speaker 1: we figured it out. Although now that I'm looking at
Speaker 1: my list about favorite kills, when he knocks the top
Speaker 1: half of that guy's head off, that's pretty great. That
Speaker 1: is very great that I got that one saved on
Speaker 1: my phone. I feel like I have between this movie
Speaker 1: and Critters too, I have a lot of I don't
Speaker 1: know which one I have more gifts saved on my
Speaker 1: phone for well, I mentioned the Gang of Four. Those
Speaker 1: are the sort of the head of each of the gangs,
Speaker 1: which they spell out very plainly at the beginning with
Speaker 1: the narration. But the three um, the gang of three
Speaker 1: it becomes, are very interesting to say the least. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have uh Tarzan, who is a giant with a
Speaker 1: giant pompadour and wears a lot of fur uh and
Speaker 1: he's like the strong man uh in in my translation.
Speaker 1: You have a character called God who throws needles with
Speaker 1: wires attached them at people. Yeah, and has that great hairstyle.
Speaker 1: He has a very great hairstyle. And then you have
Speaker 1: h huang Chuan, which I'm I'm sure I'm mispronouncing who
Speaker 1: uh I is at least at least gender neutral, if
Speaker 1: not somewhat somewhat feminine. Yeah, I thought it was a
Speaker 1: lady for a little while, you can't quite tell. And
Speaker 1: then they don't address it, um which in in what
Speaker 1: is otherwise very much a men's prison, um and she
Speaker 1: uh he uh. They seem to be the most accomplished
Speaker 1: martial artist of the group. Right. And the other interesting
Speaker 1: thing about this prison is though there are guards everywhere,
Speaker 1: there's never like I said, there's no consequences, and there's
Speaker 1: never any rhyme or reason to win. Who is where
Speaker 1: at any given point. No, I mean, maybe it's because
Speaker 1: I'm i haven't spent much time in touristic futuristic Chinese prison.
Speaker 1: Maybe they all It all kind of looks like like
Speaker 1: a school, or like times, or like an office building,
Speaker 1: like the assistant warden's office very much looks like a
Speaker 1: last minute, thrown together office. Yeah, and then you know
Speaker 1: they clearly didn't have a bunch of sets because they
Speaker 1: shoot several scenes in that sort of nondescript staircase area.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and they get them. They get the most
Speaker 1: out of that area, Like they use those stairs for fights.
Speaker 1: They throw people down the stairs. Ricky gets covered in
Speaker 1: and cement and then uh falls down the stairs. That's
Speaker 1: a great part is when they Ricky is covered in
Speaker 1: cement and he's slowly advancing on the warden and then uh,
Speaker 1: he all of a sudden just stops and falls down
Speaker 1: the stairs. And they're like talking about how the you know,
Speaker 1: he can't move because of all the cement, but I
Speaker 1: mean it looks really wet. It does, and he also
Speaker 1: breaks out of it with his abs of steel. He
Speaker 1: just he adds up in the cement just breaks, you know,
Speaker 1: just cracks apart, which is wonderful, which I think might
Speaker 1: be I mean, it's just more evidence that Ricky is
Speaker 1: simply trying to let the let his opponents reveal their
Speaker 1: hand so he can so they can make their play
Speaker 1: and expose himself so he can defeat them. That's right.
Speaker 1: And the movie culminates in in a great like kind
Speaker 1: of final ten minute sequence where the warden, who's, like
Speaker 1: you said earlier, is supposedly the best fighter. Um, he
Speaker 1: sort of does an incredible hulk thing where he turns
Speaker 1: into this giant, well, this giant hulk like creature, uh somehow,
Speaker 1: and then they have a great fight and he gets
Speaker 1: punched through all the way through the midsection and again
Speaker 1: he's still going at it. But why don't you tell
Speaker 1: everyone how he finally dies. It's pretty wonderful. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: this the warden goes through a transformation that's not unlike
Speaker 1: like not unlike a mighty morphin power ranger monster moment
Speaker 1: where he goes from like a normal little guy who
Speaker 1: a bigger guy and he you know, he's very tough, uh,
Speaker 1: And Ricky of course uh fights him, picks him up
Speaker 1: and sticks him in an industrial meat chopper that we
Speaker 1: have been introduced to earlier. So you have to believe it.
Speaker 1: It's really so he slowly pushes the warden into this
Speaker 1: chopper while being covered in blood. The story is that
Speaker 1: they used so much fake blood that the actor's skin
Speaker 1: had been stained red for days. Uh. And so he
Speaker 1: slowly pushes the warden into this meat chopper. Uh and
Speaker 1: obviously saving the day because immediately afterwards, he goes out
Speaker 1: into the prison grounds, punches a hole, punches a hole
Speaker 1: in the prison walls, all everybody escapes. That's right, he
Speaker 1: punches a hole in the prison, Like that's the only
Speaker 1: way this movie could end. I think is punching a hole.
Speaker 1: And it's not. You know, he doesn't punch a human
Speaker 1: size hole in the prison. He punches a a you know,
Speaker 1: a very large like he could drive a semitruck through
Speaker 1: this hole. It's almost like he needed to go through
Speaker 1: all these stages so that he could power himself up
Speaker 1: enough to punch a hole through that wall, because otherwise
Speaker 1: one might argue if I'm sure, Like when Neil Degrass
Speaker 1: Tyson reviews this movie, he's like, it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: He should have punched a hole through the wall right
Speaker 1: at the start. Uh. Man, it's so great, Uh, I mean,
Speaker 1: thanks for turning me onto this movie. In this genre.
Speaker 1: Had so much fun watching it, and I'm definitely gonna
Speaker 1: explore more stuff like this, but it's I don't know,
Speaker 1: It's it might be hard to start at like the
Speaker 1: zenith and then go backwards. Yeah, have you had Have
Speaker 1: you had experiences with that sort of thing before, Like
Speaker 1: when you've you've entered or experienced like the highest moment
Speaker 1: of a genre or a style, only to be disappointed
Speaker 1: by all the other stuff. Yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I can think of um, Like, for instance, for me,
Speaker 1: when I first started watching Japanese animation, I think the
Speaker 1: first two movies I watched were A Kira and then
Speaker 1: Uh and then like Ninja Scroll, and then I was
Speaker 1: very disappointed by a lot of things for a while
Speaker 1: before you know, finding like basically being reintroduced to the
Speaker 1: studio oh ghibli stuff. But I think the only thing
Speaker 1: I can think of is when I was twelve years old,
Speaker 1: my now brother in law then my sister's boyfriend sat
Speaker 1: me down seven years older than me and made me
Speaker 1: listen to Leonard Skinnerd's debut album and introduced me to
Speaker 1: southern rock. And I'm still a leonyrd Skynerd fan, but
Speaker 1: after that, I was like you know most of the
Speaker 1: southern rock is not so great. Yeah, it's it's really tough,
Speaker 1: like the Yeah, I feel like sometimes the like crossover
Speaker 1: elements of different like I'm I'm I listened to a
Speaker 1: lot of heavy metal music, and sometimes the stuff that
Speaker 1: has enough crossover appeal, like the more extreme stuff that
Speaker 1: has a crossover appeal with me, I'm like, oh, let
Speaker 1: me check out things like this. Oh no, I shouldn't
Speaker 1: have done So, dude, we're gonna finish with five questions.
Speaker 1: Is something I haven't done in a long time, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring it back for you. Uh. And I
Speaker 1: did not prep you for this, so if you need
Speaker 1: a second to think of your answers, don't feel bad. Um.
Speaker 1: First question, what's the first movie you remember seeing in
Speaker 1: the theater? Uh? Ghostbusters? Okay? How old are you? I
Speaker 1: am forty okay? Uh? And I saw Ghostbusters and my
Speaker 1: mom covered my eyes during the first ghost scare because
Speaker 1: it was She said it was too scary for me.
Speaker 1: But when I asked, she said, he uh, the ghost
Speaker 1: looked like skeletor. For those of you listening at home,
Speaker 1: by the way, when Stewart said that he was forty,
Speaker 1: you kind of shrugged a little bit as if to say, like,
Speaker 1: is that a good age? I was like, because I
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, I better do some maths. So
Speaker 1: carry the one. What is the first R rated movie
Speaker 1: you saw theater or home or wherever? Uh? Was it noteworthy?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's tough to say. I feel like
Speaker 1: the one that I remember the most was like, it
Speaker 1: was either RoboCop or Predator. Okay, yeah, RoboCop. That that's
Speaker 1: a great first R rated film. Mine was Escape from
Speaker 1: New York. By the way. Oh wow, that's a good one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a good one. Number three, well, this is interesting.
Speaker 1: Number three for you is I'm not sure how you're
Speaker 1: gonna answer this because you do a bad movie podcast.
Speaker 1: But the question is do you walk out of a
Speaker 1: bad movie? I have never walked out of a bad movie.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I I'm trying to think the I
Speaker 1: think the closest I came was Man of Steel. I
Speaker 1: took a lot of extra long bathroom breaks during that one.
Speaker 1: But we were there for my my father in law's birthday.
Speaker 1: He likes he likes dinner in a movie for his birthday,
Speaker 1: so that an he like an He likes superheroes, in
Speaker 1: the absence of a movie featuring Wolverine, he will just
Speaker 1: watch any superhero movie and you like sitting in the
Speaker 1: lobby while the Man of Steel is on and scrolling
Speaker 1: through your Twitter. Yeah, arguably more effective use of my time. Uh.
Speaker 1: Number four usually tailored to the guests. So I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: you know, you've seen a lot of bad movies because
Speaker 1: of the flaphouse, which one is the worst one that
Speaker 1: you can think of? And because you guys have a
Speaker 1: rating system where it's a bad bad movie a good
Speaker 1: bad movie, or movie kind of like which one is
Speaker 1: just really sort of reprehensible and just pure trash. I
Speaker 1: mean there's a lot of them. Uh. I mean the
Speaker 1: it's it's really tough because you know, we watch a
Speaker 1: lot of them, and there's you have the like passion
Speaker 1: projects that are missed from like misguided maniacs uh And
Speaker 1: I for the most part, I don't want to single
Speaker 1: boost any of these guys. Um and those are bad,
Speaker 1: but they're like dumb and they they're so incompetent that
Speaker 1: there's you can kind of laugh at them. But then
Speaker 1: you get like the big studio ones where you're like
Speaker 1: they're just so boring because anything that would have been
Speaker 1: interesting about them has been like ironed out. Yeah, the ones,
Speaker 1: the ones that have been bumming me out the most
Speaker 1: lately are things like the most recent Rambo, which is
Speaker 1: Rambo Last Blood, which is just like super racist and
Speaker 1: shitty and falls back on like the laziest shitty like tropes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: listen to that episode. Actually I haven't seen the movie,
Speaker 1: but not listen to it, do not? Or like the
Speaker 1: Death Wish remake is pretty bad? Or uh oh, and
Speaker 1: then or we did the we watched that movie The
Speaker 1: Haunting of Sharon Tate, which which kind of which which
Speaker 1: like posits a reality where they approach the Sharon Tate
Speaker 1: murder as like a ghost worry and it's just it's horrible.
Speaker 1: Don't watch that? All right? Fair enough? And then finally
Speaker 1: question five, movie going one on one back when theaters
Speaker 1: were open and once they reopen, what is your ritual?
Speaker 1: Where do you sit? Where do you go? What do
Speaker 1: you get at the concession stand? Uh? Yeah, I mean, uh,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not super proud to admit, but my
Speaker 1: my movie my movie going place of choice is the
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Alamo Drafthouse. I love I love the programmer there.
Speaker 1: I don't agree with a lot of the policies and
Speaker 1: uh are they controversial, Yeah, there's, um they haven't been.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm obviously I'm open to be corrected. But
Speaker 1: from my understanding, they have been particularly good to their
Speaker 1: staff during this situation. And also uh tim league has
Speaker 1: had some issues with not supporting uh claims of abuse
Speaker 1: against his Louise. So basically a bunch of bunch of
Speaker 1: things that aren't cool. But the there's I love the
Speaker 1: way that they do their business. I try to frequent
Speaker 1: other places that are similar, but I like I am
Speaker 1: a huge fan of places where I can pick my seat.
Speaker 1: I like having a lot of room. I sit, Uh,
Speaker 1: I guess toward the middle, although no, actually that's a lie.
Speaker 1: I try and sit near the edge because I do
Speaker 1: have to pee. Because I also like to drink beers
Speaker 1: when I go to movies, and preferably it'll be a
Speaker 1: place that serves them. Um so, and I do. I
Speaker 1: do go to a fair amount of movies by myself,
Speaker 1: especially in the afternoon, Like an afternoon movie by myself
Speaker 1: in the world. It's such a treat, uh, if you're
Speaker 1: in I don't know what the New world is going
Speaker 1: to be like, but if you're in New York, the
Speaker 1: Battery Park Movie Theater uh in during the day, during
Speaker 1: the week is the best best matinee spot in the world.
Speaker 1: Nobody's there big theater. Uh yeah, it's always empty. So
Speaker 1: that's the kind of place where I'll have to go
Speaker 1: and remind people to start the movie. For me, it's like,
Speaker 1: it's like getting to rent out a multiplex all by
Speaker 1: yourself so you can watch Crawl or Happy Deaf Day
Speaker 1: to you, dude. I love it all right, man, Thanks Stewart.
Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun. Yeah, man, thanks for
Speaker 1: having me. This was a blast. Yeah. What are your
Speaker 1: what's your social media is? What do you want to plug?
Speaker 1: Just go ahead and lay it all out there. Yeah. Sure,
Speaker 1: you can check me out. I'm on Twitter at flop
Speaker 1: House Cat. Um. If you get a chance, uh and
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Speaker 1: or Charlene's Bar. Uh. You can follow us at Hinterlands Bar,
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Speaker 1: thanks brother, Yeah, thank you, all right, everybody. I hope
Speaker 1: you enjoyed that as much as I did. It was
Speaker 1: good to hang out with Stewart virtually through the old
Speaker 1: skype on the computer. Again. He's just a wonderful, winsome
Speaker 1: guy and it was fun to hang out and talk
Speaker 1: to him about his background and his cool NERD gaming
Speaker 1: painting figurines thing and D and D thing. I love it.
Speaker 1: It's something I've never been into, but uh, it's something
Speaker 1: that intrigues me here at this age, I might get
Speaker 1: into that, and you guys, you never know. I might
Speaker 1: be painting some tiny figurines at some point. So big
Speaker 1: thanks to Stewart, big thanks to the Flophouse for being
Speaker 1: a part of this project at this set of three,
Speaker 1: and the Maximum Fun Network which has always been so
Speaker 1: good to me. Uh, Jesse Thorne's network over there. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're they're great people. They have great shows. And I
Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. And Cheez,
Speaker 1: get out there and watch Ricky. Oh, the story of Ricky.
Speaker 1: It is fantastic. So thanks for listening, and we will
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