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Speaker 1: Back in the lab for another edition of the Official

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Speaker 1: Jets Podcast. We've got a very special guest, Justice gal

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Speaker 1: like head Strength and connectioning off the New York Jets.

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Speaker 1: looking for. All right, Justice, I feel like we can

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Speaker 1: talk about a thousand things here, but for fans that

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Speaker 1: don't know and a couple of sentences, it's gonna seem

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Speaker 1: like a loaded question. But how would you describe your

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Speaker 1: role and how it changes in season and off season

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Speaker 1: for the team? Uh? Yeah, my role? Well, thanks first

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Speaker 1: and foremost for having me on here. I appreciate it. Guys. Um,

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Speaker 1: my role is always evolving. I guess there's always a

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Speaker 1: lot of things to go into it. Obviously, you know strength, condition,

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Speaker 1: so give it the player strong, trying to get him

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Speaker 1: there's also the recovery methods. The nutrition is part of

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Speaker 1: pre and post game. There's a lot of also just

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Speaker 1: they come to us for different things. So you know,

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Speaker 1: our job is very multiple. We have we have a

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Speaker 1: lot of things that we cover. UM. Again, I always

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Speaker 1: you expect to happen. UM. But and and then you

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Speaker 1: talk about you know, out of season, we obviously have

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Speaker 1: However coach structures it. You know, we know we have

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Speaker 1: You know, we love that part of it. How have

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Speaker 1: That says something about you that not only have you

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Speaker 1: Winners below Powell are the two most veteran players on

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Speaker 1: this team, so they longest tenure jets, so they're they're

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Speaker 1: in full control. That's how that works. Yeah, so longest

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Speaker 1: tenure jets who we give control to. And if they're

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Speaker 1: not in there, if say they're in a different lifting group,

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Speaker 1: then it goes to the next guy down the line.

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Speaker 1: So I just have to do some math. Sometimes usually

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Speaker 1: it's the oldest guy in the room though, no matter what,

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Speaker 1: even if they've been here for a year, you know,

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Speaker 1: they control it a lot of times. To be honest

436
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Speaker 1: with you, I'll put something on until they complain, so

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Speaker 1: I kind of know what they like to listen to.

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Speaker 1: So I put on what I think they'll like, try

439
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Speaker 1: to set the mood with it. Um, I'm pretty successful.

440
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty successful. So again I will go back to

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Speaker 1: the guy that gives me the most um feedback on

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Speaker 1: the music is probably jamal time any skip songs, you'll

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Speaker 1: tell me he likes it. Him and Marcus and the

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Speaker 1: whole just the DBS in general, I guess. But uh,

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Speaker 1: that's when I know if I'm doing a good job

446
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Speaker 1: or not on the music. The DJ, so I run it.

447
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Speaker 1: I run it most of the time. Jamal dance between

448
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Speaker 1: sets sometimes sometimes, Um, it depends on where we're at,

449
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Speaker 1: if it's uh if he really likes the song, or

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Speaker 1: it depends on the exercise we're doing too. If we're

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Speaker 1: doing like big squats and contrast exercises, we might get

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Speaker 1: them dancing a little bit between but uh. Um. During

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Speaker 1: training camp, there was some good moments with the defense,

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Speaker 1: especially um when after a lift they would just kind

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Speaker 1: of just have fun and dance and it's such a

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Speaker 1: it's a fun group. Um. You know, the defense is

457
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Speaker 1: definitely always a different animal. So um, yeah, it just

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Speaker 1: depends on the day. Usually if they're dancing, I know,

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Speaker 1: we got good energy and they you know, they're working hard,

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Speaker 1: so I'll take it every day of the week. What

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Speaker 1: about McClendon, who's like the philosopher on this team. He's

462
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Speaker 1: seen a lot of football. Thirty three, you got him,

463
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Speaker 1: You've helped him in terms of being in great shape.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't play like a thirty three year old. I

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Speaker 1: can't imagine he's got too many musical requests. No, he

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Speaker 1: does well, Yeah he does sometimes Yeah, and he you know,

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Speaker 1: and to Steve's credit, like he's he he always says

468
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Speaker 1: you know, his big his big thing to say is

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Speaker 1: the gym is always open. You know, So there you go.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so you know, for me, like that guy

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Speaker 1: is a work you know, he's a workaholic. He he's

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Speaker 1: opening a gym back home. He's building this gym and uh,

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Speaker 1: he loves what we do. He'll be a strength coach

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Speaker 1: when he's done. Our personal trend. He's into this um.

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Speaker 1: But as far as music, he likes some you know,

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Speaker 1: some Southern throwbacks, some Little John some he said, with

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Speaker 1: some stuff like you know from the mid two thousands.

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Speaker 1: Some you know, some crunk music. That's what he gets into.

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Speaker 1: He'll get into that, you know, but he likes it all.

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Speaker 1: He'll ask for that every now and then. Because Steve's probably, um,

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Speaker 1: the strongest guy on her team. Uh squat bench pull up,

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Speaker 1: you know he damn it. Yeah, uh, you know he's

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Speaker 1: The way he does is incredible. But he uh, he

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Speaker 1: gets what. He gets what he wants when he's ready

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Speaker 1: for it. You know, he doesn't ask for it often,

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Speaker 1: but he when he does, he gets it. I feel

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Speaker 1: like winners controlling the ax cord. He he I know

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Speaker 1: he's a big country guy, but does he bump country

489
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Speaker 1: while lifting. Only if it's like me and him every

490
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Speaker 1: once in a while, I mean he's he likes little Wayne,

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Speaker 1: he likes he likes a little bit everything. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: he'll ask for for some rock every now and then. Um,

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Speaker 1: we've we been on a big kick in the weight

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Speaker 1: room of like rap rock from the mid two thousands,

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Speaker 1: which is you know, that's that's my age right there,

496
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Speaker 1: like the lip Biscuit and corn and Roach Disturbed some

497
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Speaker 1: stuff like that. Some of those the old lineman will

498
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Speaker 1: get it. They'll get it that going when we go

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Speaker 1: in there. So you know, I appreciate the guys that

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Speaker 1: like all the music because you know, um, it makes

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Speaker 1: it fun and we could change it up. We have

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Speaker 1: on Friday's, uh, we have gap band Fridays, so which

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Speaker 1: is like kind of like motown type music. That's Calvin

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Speaker 1: Beacham Day. So that stays on all day, that music

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Speaker 1: doesn't that's our Armed Farm day. So everybody that comes

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Speaker 1: in we listen to the gap band station. You might

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Speaker 1: get some Michael Jackson and stuff like that on them

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Speaker 1: Armed Farm well, that's where we're growing arms. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's our TV day. We gotta make their arms look good.

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Speaker 1: So that's not a mandatory day. That's definitely. Uh, the

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Speaker 1: defensive line, our linebackers, offensive line, they get in there

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Speaker 1: and do it so. Um. You know it's mostly arms

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Speaker 1: some course's arm farm throughout the National Football League on Fridays. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say so in the programs that are doing

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Speaker 1: it right. Yeah, definitely are definitely doing that well. Play

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Speaker 1: you know. You know who I remember back in the

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Speaker 1: day with Thomas Jones always rocking and rolling there on Friday,

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Speaker 1: and he had quite possibly the biggest arms. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: never I never coached him, but I saw him on

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Speaker 1: TV and that Yeah, he did it right. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what he did, but he did it right. They

522
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Speaker 1: they were going, you know, but you know, you get

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Speaker 1: some of those guys like John Harrison and uh Bronson KFUSI.

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Speaker 1: Those guys get in there and get it going. You know,

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Speaker 1: they get it going. And beach Him's in there. Beach

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Speaker 1: Ums usually the first guy on Friday's used around six

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Speaker 1: six fifteen and they're kicking off arm farm. Um. Leonard Williams.

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Speaker 1: You know, some of those guys getting in there, so

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a good group coming in there.

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Speaker 1: What's the biggest misconception of dudes at home. We're like,

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Speaker 1: I took the words right out of my mind thirty five,

532
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Speaker 1: forty years old, and I just wanted to get back

533
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Speaker 1: into shape and get in the weight room. What's the

534
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: biggest misconception out there that you can out train a

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Speaker 1: bad diet. So, no matter what you're doing in the

536
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Speaker 1: weight room, if you're if you're eating poorly and you know,

537
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: you know, doing the wrong things, you're not, it's not

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00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 1: gonna happen, you know, Like that's the first step, you know,

539
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: even if it's you know, we talked about it with

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Speaker 1: our players, if it's you don't have to be right

541
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Speaker 1: all the time. You don't have to like get crazy,

542
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: but you know, clean it up, you know, do do

543
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: some things right that will take care of it because

544
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: you don't have to do as much. You don't have to.

545
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: You don't have to crush yourself in the gym, you know,

546
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: to get a result, just start eating better. You'll lose weight, right.

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00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: We know that if you eat less calories, you'll lose weight.

548
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: If I eat more calories, I'll gain weight, you know,

549
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: So if you're eating less calories and you're working out,

550
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,959
Speaker 1: it's pretty easy. How militant Are you in terms of

551
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: not only physical regiment because we've covered that, but your diet?

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00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: Please look at you man. People. Uh, I don't know

553
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Speaker 1: if they've fouled your evolution, the gallic evolution. Probably not.

554
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Speaker 1: You are laying in mean two wander pounder. You look

555
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: like you are ready to take care of some business

556
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah? Yeah, I mean I think and again

557
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: it goes back to the training. If I um to

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Speaker 1: answer your question, I'm I'm pretty militant on eating. Again.

559
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: My wife is the one that tells me to to

560
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: just relax, But um, I try to be Milton. I

561
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: try to be very restricted and regimented one right. I

562
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: show the picture when I was a nose tackle like,

563
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: I look completely different, you know. Um my daughter is

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00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: the only one that recognizes me and my parents. That's

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Speaker 1: about it. My wife, doesn't you know? I look completely different? Um?

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Speaker 1: And I say, as you know, as I get older,

567
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: I gotta be smarter with certain things. But I try

568
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: to be very diligent when I do something, and when

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Speaker 1: I commit to something, I'm pretty good about sticking to it. Um,

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00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: you know, wholeheartedly, whether it's right or wrong. Um. You

571
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: know I've tried everything, paleo, keto, carb cycling, um, the

572
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: Dolce diet. Anything I I do, I get hard onto it,

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00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, I get hard into what I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: do and and stick it out. And my players, I think,

575
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Speaker 1: appreciate ate that, you know, especially the guys that are

576
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 1: into it and they're trying to find ways and that way.

577
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: If a guy brings up something, you know, it's always

578
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: the you know, well, uh, you know I only do

579
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: Olympic lifting or only do power lifting. Well, that that

580
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. I can't say that unless I've tried,

581
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: you know, it wholeheartedly and put my time into it.

582
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: Or I don't eat carbohydrates, or I only eat carba,

583
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm vegan or I'm you know, uh,

584
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: you know whatever, you want to be vegetarian. I have

585
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: to experience those things in order to really comment on them.

586
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: What's your favorite cheap meal aside from him stealing all

587
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: my good questions? Maybe maybe aside from having a beverage, Yeah,

588
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: that's that's that's always a good one. But but I

589
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: mean pizza. I'm a big pizza guy. Um, so you know,

590
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: I'm a pizza connoisseur. I like to believe. So we'd

591
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: like to try all different pizza, and being here in Jersey,

592
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of good pizza that we will try out.

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00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: You know, Pizza Friday is a big thing in my household,

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00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: and uh so that's usually a cheap day. Usually make

595
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: sure I train real hard on uh on my Friday,

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00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: and then uh, you know, be good on the weekend

597
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: for Saturdays and game days. Same crusts are thick crust

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00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: you know. Um, I'm a in between guy. I'm like

599
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: that in between um e aken, you know knows the

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00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: pizza that that we grew up on. I'm still a

601
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: fan of that. I don't say that where it's from,

602
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: but it's, uh, you know, I'm still a fan of that.

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00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: I like Detroit style pizza. If you ever had that,

604
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: that's very good. It's very good. It's it's uh. People

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00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: don't know about it, and I didn't until like probably

606
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: last year we went up there and I tried it.

607
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: But uh, I like that medium, you know, like good

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00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: pepperoni and oh yeah, you gotta get you gotta get

609
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: all that, you know. Yeah, and you're a hockey fan too,

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00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm a hockey fan. Yeah, I do enjoy hockey. Um,

611
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: you know, born and raised around it, so um you know,

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00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: I know you are too. Yeah. Well, our roots go

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00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: back to the pills. Everybody Buffalo sabers. So if you

614
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: used to see me in Justice wearing a buffalo h hat,

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Speaker 1: you gotta say, right, yeah, yeah, all right. Well that's

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Speaker 1: all we have here on the Official Jets podcast Justice.

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