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Speaker 1: Guys, we got some relevant comments and then are big updates.

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Speaker 1: So pixel Spartan one one seven says OPI did she

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Speaker 1: actually acknowledge that the touching by her was inappropriate? I

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Speaker 1: do not see how she could have not recognized how

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Speaker 1: touchy they were and her lack of physical touch with you.

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Speaker 1: Like many others have said, I'm not sure Jordan was

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Speaker 1: being completely honest with you. Did you ask her how

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Speaker 1: she would have felt in a reverse situation, if the

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Speaker 1: three of you meet again and you want to think

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Speaker 1: about excusing yourself to go to the bathroom or something

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Speaker 1: during the meal, and instead hide and film the reaction

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Speaker 1: while you are gone. Oh boy, See if Jordan changes

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Speaker 1: how he interacts when you were not there?

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Speaker 2: Who absolutely, this is a lot.

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Speaker 1: I say to capture it on your phone, because then

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Speaker 1: you have to show it to her if you break up.

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Speaker 1: If she interacts appropriately while you were gone, then she

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Speaker 1: may not have gotten the message. She should also start

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Speaker 1: limiting her interactions with him to phone slash text, because

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Speaker 1: that relationship is not healthy. No significant others should have

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Speaker 1: to deal with that. If you two end up getting married,

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Speaker 1: it needs to be dealt with.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Hope your response to that she did acknowledge that all

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Speaker 1: the touching was inappropriate. Yes, when she actually thought back

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Speaker 1: on how much they were doing it and how over

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Speaker 1: the top it was, she seemed embarrassed and realized and

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Speaker 1: she shouldn't have started acting like that just because Mark

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Speaker 1: seems to think that it's normal. I didn't ask her

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Speaker 1: how she'd feel in the reverse situation, because it seemed

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Speaker 1: like she got it immediately as soon as I told

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Speaker 1: her how it made me feel. So it's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: don't I don't need to twist the knife when she's

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Speaker 1: already there. Specific Bag seventy four O one says a

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Speaker 1: lot of what you detail still sounds weird, especially the

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Speaker 1: part where she still didn't want to make Mark feel

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Speaker 1: left out because he was visiting with a couple, him

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Speaker 1: being a single man. Quick side note, I've never I've

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Speaker 1: never had an issue with that, Like I've always hung

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Speaker 3: Like, oh, Christian. Christian literally has has been around every

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Speaker 3: single one of my girlfriends for a massive amount of time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, it's like the test of like, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you and your partner get along, you and your

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Speaker 1: friends get along. It should it should mesh well and

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Speaker 1: if it's just friends hanging out, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: I feel something I like, something I think that makes

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Speaker 3: a relationship easier is like, if everyone can hang out

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Speaker 3: with each other, then you don't have to choose between

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Speaker 3: like like friendships and relationship. But if it's if it's

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Speaker 3: in two separate places, then you feel like you have

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Speaker 3: to choose between, which is like fine too, but I

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Speaker 3: deal it for all a line, then you don't have

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Speaker 3: to choose, Yes, indeed, but there's still like a need

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Speaker 3: to have like one in one time with your partner totally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't just get third wheels twenty.

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Speaker 3: Which my last girlfriend made very clear, like we can't

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Speaker 3: always hang out with Christian when we're going on dates.

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Speaker 2: Mark in no way visited with a couple.

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Speaker 1: If Jordan is so empathetic read the original issue, she

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Speaker 1: sure missed showing any empathy for you. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you will experience much difference with the next encounter with

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Speaker 1: all three of you. You're very enthusiastic to give Jordan

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Speaker 1: a pass. This will continue to haunt you. You don't

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Speaker 1: seem to think that you deserve to have this made right.

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Speaker 1: Jordan has a very wide birth. I guess like a

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Speaker 1: lot of long leash.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, long leash. There we go. I wish you the best.

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Speaker 2: You you just seem to feel like you deserve so little.

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Speaker 2: It's so sad. I hope he responds to that.

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Speaker 1: I do agree with you that it still sounds weird,

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Speaker 1: but with some more context, I'm just more comfortable with it.

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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. I still didn't.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate being treated like a third reel It dinner, and

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Speaker 1: I still thought that Mark and Jordan were too handsy

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Speaker 1: and after understanding that it made me uncomfortable, I don't think.

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Speaker 2: Is as much as a red flag as I thought before.

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Speaker 3: Again, it's a big if it's a big. If it's

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Speaker 2: Exactly could it could be okay, but we need to

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Speaker 2: see now.

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Speaker 1: In a lengthy comment, Opie is asked to consider whether

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Speaker 1: it's not a matter of Jordan Jordan being believable, but

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Speaker 1: strongly that he is subconsciously subvert subverting his standards for judgment.

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Speaker 1: In other words, he wants a relationship to go on

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Speaker 1: so bad that he's like kind of giving her the pass,

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Speaker 1: even though she might.

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Speaker 2: Not deserve it.

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Speaker 1: That's a really wealth that I'll comment, and I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you taking the time to write it. And I absolutely

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Speaker 1: do understand why everyone thinks I'm just letting Jordan gas

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Speaker 1: someone else was telling me the story, So I can't

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Speaker 1: really blame everyone, But I truly don't think I'm being

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Speaker 1: steered by wanting to believe her. It's hard to convey

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Speaker 1: everything that happened when we talked into one post, but

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Speaker 1: for me to understand that she, you know, has feelings

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Speaker 1: for this guy right that she wants to be with him.

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Speaker 1: I do think that Jordan's attachment to Mark is weird

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Speaker 1: and probably unhealthy, and even if she doesn't think so,

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Speaker 1: I think there's more than just friendship going on from

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Speaker 1: his side of things. But I think Jordan is being

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Speaker 1: and that was the thing that was making me question

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Speaker 1: the relationship. The other stuff that I do still take

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Speaker 1: as Jordan takes seriously that she can't be acting in

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Speaker 1: any way with Mark that disrespects me and our relationship,

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Speaker 1: even if it's in her head, it's not in a

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Speaker 1: to what Sam was saying, it's basically moving forward. We

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Speaker 1: got to see how she actually acts from here. By

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Speaker 1: the way, you can always act right by tapping our

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Speaker 1: profile and joining our livestream.

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Speaker 2: Every weekday at three PMPST.

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Speaker 3: We'll give you forehead gisses.

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Speaker 2: Wow, well Sam, will you know what?

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Speaker 3: I John have a girlfriend?

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Speaker 2: Fy, Not today, tomorrow, any other day.

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Speaker 1: Guys, There's there's more. We're about to get into the

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Speaker 1: second fat update. That's two and a half months later

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Speaker 1: that Riley tells us there's fat. It's it's good, It's

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Speaker 1: really good. It's really good. But before we get into

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Speaker 1: this update.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like we don't have all the information

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Speaker 3: to make a decision until we see how she like.

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Speaker 3: We've had the conversation, which is great, that's the starting place,

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Speaker 3: but we don't know until we see the next interaction.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're we're we're talking about the big fight,

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Speaker 1: the big game, but it has to happen to know.

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Speaker 3: How it's gonna be exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: We can we can theorize the theories all we want,

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Speaker 1: but I get my bets.

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Speaker 3: My bets are it's not gonna go well.

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Speaker 1: I think that Bet, I honestly think that Mark is

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Speaker 1: going to reveal his true feelings and leave the church,

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Speaker 1: And I think, Ope, leaves a relationship at that point

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Speaker 1: because like, yeah, it's too much, you know, I can't

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Speaker 1: have him too hot, too hot, too hot. Well, I

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Speaker 1: apologize if this isn't right. I've never tried to post

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Speaker 1: my profile on here before, but a lot of people

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Speaker 1: want an update, so I don't think I'm allowed to

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Speaker 2: But the situation seems pretty resolved now.

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Speaker 3: Really, I don't believe it. After get some red flags.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, after Mike and Jordan had an argument over every everything,

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Speaker 1: they're no longer friends, lot twits.

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Speaker 3: I think maybe there was feelings on Mark's side.

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Speaker 2: Now he's like, what do you mean we can't hold

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Speaker 2: hands and kiss each other.

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Speaker 1: What happened was that Jordan told Mark that we weren't

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Speaker 1: He blamed me, saying that he could tell that Jordan

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Speaker 2: Jordan admitted that this was part of.

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Speaker 3: This is how you solve this. Oh well, that would

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Speaker 3: make me feel like very love, right, that would make

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Speaker 1: And I love how she's just being completely honest and

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Speaker 1: But I'm trying to prioritize our relationship right now. And

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Speaker 3: You know, I have a friend that's in a relationship

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Speaker 2: I don't like that guy. I mean, Sami kind of sucks.

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Speaker 2: He really does. When I first got here, I was like,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, I meeting new people and stuff, trying to

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Speaker 2: This isn't me man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he kind of like has like a not that

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Speaker 3: he kind of has like a douchey friend group.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, if if your girl is around Sam

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Speaker 1: Surfer six pack Donner.

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Speaker 2: It might be a reason to be afraid.

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Speaker 3: Oh that sucks. We were friends for like five years.

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Speaker 2: But you're Sam's surfers expect Donner.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a little I'm a little salty about it,

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Speaker 3: but I understand, I understand.

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Speaker 1: Mark got really offended and kept asking Jordan to explain

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Speaker 3: She would just blow him off.

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Speaker 1: That upset Jordan a lot because she took it as

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Speaker 1: She started crying and she ended up hanging up on him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, community they always come in close with that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And Mark just sounds like a possessive friend, which is

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Speaker 3: Like that's like when asked, like, all right, what what

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Speaker 1: the best way to approach this, and then going into it.

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Speaker 2: He did a really good job of that.

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Speaker 3: I would say, no, yeah, I think it. I think

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Speaker 3: it was like good good vibes worked out well. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: surprisingly I was save.

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Speaker 2: I mean, my prediction is terrible, So.

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Speaker 3: I think that's where that story ends.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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