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Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what another addition with

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer Tim Kirkshin, I'm his son, Jeff

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Speaker 1: Cakes better known as Jim Palmer Baltimore Orioles, longtime pitcher

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Speaker 2: And Cakes is going to talk to us about of

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Speaker 2: course himself, which he had an amazing career, and of

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Speaker 2: talk about Roberto Clementi, who he faced, of course in

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Speaker 2: the nineteen seventy one World Series. Sunday, Jeff is Roberto

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Speaker 2: Clemente Day all across baseball, and he was such a

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Speaker 2: game that we're going to go early and talk about

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Speaker 2: him all week. That's what we're gonna do. That's how

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Speaker 1: And you know, that's such an important day to Major

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Speaker 1: in the sports world. We just passed Week one of

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Speaker 1: the NFL season, and this is an exciting time. And

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, my fantasy football team got a win, Dad,

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Speaker 1: week one.

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Speaker 2: Let's go all right, so, how many guys are in

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Speaker 1: We got twelve guys in my league. There are all

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Speaker 1: the guys I grew up with, so all my Quinn

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Speaker 1: I won Week one, beating the defending champion, Tyler Eckstein,

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Speaker 1: who won last year.

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Speaker 2: Well, who was your star for Week one? You know?

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen is fantastic and I drafted him in honor

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Speaker 1: of my brother in law. Well, I drafted him because

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Speaker 2: Craziest is that That's amazing. So Friday night, Jeff I

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Speaker 2: how much baseball players love fantasy football. Every single team

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Speaker 2: is the greatest time of year. We have Pennant races,

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Speaker 2: you got to talk to Taylor Walls. He is a

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Speaker 2: He takes it seriously. And I said, so, why do

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Speaker 2: language here. He said, it just allows me to talk

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Speaker 2: So Taylor Walls is really good at this. So I

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Speaker 2: real slim Shady because he's got Joe Burrow on his team.

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Speaker 2: I'm quoting here. And Joe Burrow has like gray or

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Speaker 1: Well, do you know who the real slim Shady is, Dad?

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Speaker 2: Well? I googled it. Now is that Eminem? Well done?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the real slim Shady And he has the

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Speaker 1: This on my twenty twenty four bingo card that Tim

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Speaker 2: Well, you also didn't have me asking about fantasy football, because,

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Speaker 1: Well, my buddy Alex Parker, who you know, he's the

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Swifties. They bringing in Taylor Swift and everything.

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Speaker 1: And my buddy Jensen is Hurts so good because he

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Speaker 1: So I love the witty names, right, Witty names are great.

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Speaker 2: But the whole point of this fantasy football thing, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: There's beer, there's pizza, and there's camaraderie. And because the

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Speaker 2: which also think about that. Yeah, it's really important that

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Speaker 2: absolutely love it. Again, James McCant told me on Friday morning. Okay,

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Speaker 1: It is a camaraderie. It's what keeps me connected with

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Speaker 2: Then.

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Speaker 1: How about the takeaways from this week in Major League Baseball?

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Speaker 2: All right, So the Yankees have struggled a little lately here, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they really have been. And we'll see how things

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Speaker 2: Of all the third basemen with at least three hundred

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they are really approaching the NL East. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Right And speaking of the Phillies, of course, your boy

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Speaker 2: Kyle Schwerber hit his thirteenth lead off home run this year,

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Speaker 1: So there was actually something going viral about Emmanuel class

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Speaker 1: It's the first four season comparison between Mariano Rivera and

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Speaker 2: game changer this week. Jeff is obviously Roberto Clementy. Roberto

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Speaker 1: So Eddie, I know, if I'm doing my math right,

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm old enough to have seen Roberto Clementi play.

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Speaker 2: I saw him in person spring training of nineteen seventy

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Speaker 2: and I'm sorry, Eddie. I'll never forget my father walking

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Speaker 2: We talked about a cycle earlier in the show. Wyatt

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Speaker 2: Luis Arise, who is Fernando Tatiste Junior's teammate, of course,

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Speaker 2: with the Padres. Through Sunday, one hundred and fifteen straight

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Speaker 2: played appearances without striking out, which again in this strikeout era,

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Speaker 2: jeb where one hundred and eighty guys are going to

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Speaker 2: strike out one hundred times. This year, he's at one

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Speaker 2: fifteen played appearances without striking out. That's the longest single

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Speaker 2: season since streak since Jan Pierre went one hundred and

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Speaker 2: forty seven in twenty twenty four, and since Arrive last

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Speaker 2: struck out. Pete Alonso struck out forty one times, and

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Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber struck out forty times in the time it

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Speaker 2: took to have zero strikeouts. Wow, for Luisa rives pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: What's going on on this state in baseball history?

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Speaker 2: Well, there were a lot of cool birthdays. I love birthdays.

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Speaker 2: Love to celebrate him. Ted Klazuski born on this date

446
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Speaker 2: in nineteen twenty four. Big Clue Jeff he used to wear.

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Speaker 2: He used to cut off the sleeves of his jersey

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Speaker 2: so you could see the gun show. Obviously I don't

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Speaker 2: have a gun show. But Big Clue was one of

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Speaker 2: the the big strong guys who ever played, and another

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Speaker 2: guy who never ever struck out. And he's the answer

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Speaker 2: to a really stupid trivia question. Six players in Major

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Speaker 2: league history have hit forty homers in a season with

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Speaker 2: ten or more letters in their last name. So I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna at the end of the I'm gonna give everyone

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Speaker 2: just a few minutes to figure this out. But Ted

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Speaker 2: Klazuski is one of six players in Major league history

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Speaker 2: to hit forty or more homers in a season with

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Speaker 2: ten or more letters in his last name. Okay, also

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Speaker 2: on this date in nineteen thirty four. Roger Marris was born,

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Speaker 2: of course, sixty one homers in nineteen sixty one to

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Speaker 2: break Babe Bruce record for single season home runs. Roger

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Speaker 2: Maris won two MVPs Jeff back to back in nineteen

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Speaker 2: sixty sixty one. And he was a great defensive right fielder,

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Speaker 2: so he wasn't just a one season guy. He was

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Speaker 2: a really great player for a really long time. Nineteen

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Speaker 2: fifty seven, one of my favorite baseball names, Len Whitehouse,

468
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Speaker 2: was born one word. So when I do the All

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Speaker 2: President team, probably in the in early November, for obvious reasons,

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Speaker 2: Len Whitehouse is a ceremonial on the All white House

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Speaker 2: team because that's his last name, Len white House. And

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Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty three, that was the day that all

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Speaker 2: three Alu brothers hit together in the order in the

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Speaker 2: eighth inning. It was Alu, Alu and the Lou. That

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Speaker 2: had never happened before, three brothers hitting back to back

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Speaker 2: to back in the eighth inning of a game. And

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Speaker 2: also on this date in nineteen sixty three, the great

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Speaker 2: Stan Musial hit a home run in his first at

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Speaker 2: bat as a grandfather.

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Speaker 1: Wow, And I mean you've been a grandfather now of

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Speaker 1: three for a couple of years. Carson, Emma and McKinley,

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Speaker 1: you've been grandfather for a while since Carson was born

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Speaker 1: in twenty one. What baseball feet have you accomplished since then?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you did become a Baseball Hall of Famer

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Speaker 1: in the writer section of Cooper Sound, So maybe I

486
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Speaker 1: should just keep quiet on this.

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Speaker 2: One, all right, no baseball feat.

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Speaker 3: Sorry.

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00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: Also nineteen ninety Jim Abbot faced Paul Abbot, so the

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Speaker 2: two Abbots went against each other, two starting pitchers, and

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Speaker 2: the winning one run was driven in by Carmen Castillo,

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Speaker 2: So it was kind of the Abbot and Castillo game,

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Speaker 2: which always reminds me of my two favorite batteries in

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Speaker 2: Major League history. Number one is when Steve Decker used

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Speaker 2: to catch Bud Black, so it was the Black, Black

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Speaker 2: and Decker. But Glenn Abbott pitched for the Tigers and

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Speaker 2: Marty Castillo was the catcher, So that was my second

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Speaker 2: favorite battery ever, the Abbot and Castillo battery. We love that.

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Speaker 2: And last thing, Jeff nineteen ninety nine. On this date,

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Speaker 2: Pedro Martinez struck out seventeen batters at Yankee Stadium and

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Speaker 2: I was calling the game on ESPN Radio. It was

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Speaker 2: the first game I'd ever called on ESPN radio. Charlie

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Speaker 2: Steiner was the play by play guy and I was

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Speaker 2: the color guy, and I was nervous because I'd never

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Speaker 2: called a game on the radio. So Pedro throws the

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Speaker 2: most amazing game I've ever seen. He totally dominated. No

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Speaker 2: pitcher had ever struck out seventeen Yankees at Yankee Stadium ever,

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Speaker 2: and that's what Pedro did. And that night he crossed

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Speaker 2: the three hundred strikeout figure and ended up winning the

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Speaker 2: Cy Young that year and the year after in two thousand.

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Speaker 2: So I'll never forget Pedro Martinez in nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: And I even remember you telling me that that made

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Speaker 1: your first ESPN radio color commentary debut a whole lot easier,

514
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: because there it was. You just had all of this

515
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Speaker 1: great content to go off of.

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Speaker 2: It was unbelievable. And I remember asking Tino Martinez, who

517
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Speaker 2: was my teammate at ESPN for one year and he

518
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Speaker 2: played in that game, and I said, Tino, what about

519
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: the Pedro game? And he went like this, Oh, he said,

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Speaker 2: we had no chance. Remember the Yankees won the World

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Speaker 2: Series that year, They won the World Series the year before,

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Speaker 2: and the next year and they still had no chance

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Speaker 2: against Pedro Martinez. That's how good he was. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: got to finish the trivia question. Six players forty homers

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Speaker 2: in a season, ten or more letters in their last name. Rico, Petrocelli,

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Speaker 2: Carly Streemsky, Roy Campanella, Edwin and Carnacione, Curtis Granderson, and

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Speaker 2: Ted Kleazuski.

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Speaker 1: Wow, all right, let's go league in lids. We put

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Speaker 1: all of Major League Baseball teams into our lid.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: We take one out each week and throw it out.

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Speaker 1: You've got the Los Angeles Angels.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, poor Angels, Jeff. They just they're gonna finish

534
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Speaker 2: under five hundred for the ninth consecutive season, which is

535
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Speaker 2: the longest consecutive streak among active teams. The Angels with

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Speaker 2: Mike Trout and Shohei Otani, and it's it's just not right.

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Speaker 2: And they're starting to rebuild there and hopefully they can

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Speaker 2: get you know, Trout back next year one hundred percent.

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00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: But it's something's got to happen there for that team

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Speaker 2: to really turn around. I will say, Jeff, some of

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Speaker 2: my favorite players there. Tim Salmon was one of the

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Speaker 2: great Angels ever, and he never made an All Star team.

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Speaker 2: He's one of the greatest players in Major League history

544
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Speaker 2: never to make an All Star team. But I'll also

545
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Speaker 2: remember they had a pitcher named Jim Slayton, and Jim

546
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Speaker 2: Slayton was most known for pitching with the with the Brewers,

547
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Speaker 2: but he finished his career most of it with the Angels.

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Speaker 2: So he went to two and a half months one

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Speaker 2: season in the mid eighties, I want to say, eighty

550
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Speaker 2: five without winning a game. Two and a half months.

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Speaker 2: He's a starting pitcher. So his brother went on a

552
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Speaker 2: hunger strike and only ate soup until his brother won

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Speaker 2: another game. So he went two and a half months

554
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Speaker 2: eating only soup and he lost sixteen pounds waiting for

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Speaker 2: Jim Slayton, who was a good major league pitcher. Jeb

556
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Speaker 2: to win another major league game, and Jim Slayton's brother

557
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: asked his dad, would you like to be in on

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Speaker 2: this to help your son, And mister Slayton said, look,

559
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Speaker 2: I love my son, but I'm not crazy.

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Speaker 3: I gotta keep eating.

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Speaker 1: That's incredible, all right, our Kirchin quandary for this week,

562
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Speaker 1: we debate it with all of you. You can chime

563
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Speaker 1: in on our social media if you don't follow us

564
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: already on ex Instagram and Facebook at Great Game or What.

565
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: You can also watch the show on YouTube and comment

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Speaker 1: in the comments of each video. What do you got, Dad, Kirkschhenkwandrik.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we have Roberto Clemente, who is has the strongest

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Speaker 2: throwing arm I've already established of any outfielder I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: And we have Jim Palmer, who's one of the greatest

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Speaker 2: pitchers of all time. So I thought I would tailor

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Speaker 2: it a little bit too throwing of a baseball. So

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Speaker 2: my question is, Jeff, when does the average person cease

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Speaker 2: being able to throw a pitch at his age? So

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Speaker 2: you know how we talk about shooting your age and golf.

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Speaker 2: You're eighty years old and you shoot seventy nine. Jim Cott,

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Speaker 2: by the way, did that twice in one week as

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Speaker 2: a golfer. He shot his age twice, and he did

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Speaker 2: it once left handed and the second time he did

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Speaker 2: it right handed. Now in the same week. Yes, true story.

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Speaker 2: So my question is not shooting your age, throwing a

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Speaker 2: baseball at the velocity of your age. So what do

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Speaker 2: you think, Jeff, You're thirty one years old. You have

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Speaker 2: a pretty good throwing arm. I'll give you that. So

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Speaker 2: do you think you could throw a baseball thirty one

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Speaker 2: miles an hour? Yeah? Absolutely, of course.

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Speaker 1: I think the better question is, though you're going to

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Speaker 1: be sixty eight in December, do you think you could

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Speaker 1: throw a ball respectfully? You've got a great arm, a

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Speaker 1: much better arm than I ever had, even at your age. Now,

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Speaker 1: who did you throw a ball sixty seven miles per

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Speaker 1: hour right now?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Now, when I was sixty five, I threw one pitch

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Speaker 2: at sixty five miles an hour. Now, you don't have

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Speaker 2: to throw a strike, you don't have to get anybody out,

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Speaker 2: You just have to throw one pitch at your age.

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Speaker 2: I was able to do that at sixty five. I

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Speaker 2: will I'll never do it again. It was a once

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Speaker 2: in a lifetime thing for me. My question is what

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Speaker 2: does the average person? What is the age you get

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Speaker 2: to where you say I can't throw my age anymore?

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Speaker 2: I all right, I don't want to insult anyone. This

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Speaker 2: is for the viewers and the listeners. I think fifty

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Speaker 2: five is to cut off date. I think the average

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Speaker 2: fifty five year old is going to have trouble throwing

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Speaker 2: his age. Am I being unfair? Do you think most

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Speaker 2: fifty five year olds can throw their age.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say sixty. That was gonna be my cutoff.

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Speaker 1: I think most fifty nine year olds can throw fifty

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Speaker 1: nine miles per hour, but I think sixty is when

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Speaker 1: things will start to turn. I'm gonna go with sixty.

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Speaker 1: And I'm curious what everybody who listens to is this

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Speaker 1: Is this a great sim or what now?

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Speaker 4: Dad?

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Speaker 1: This is very interesting and even I didn't know this.

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Speaker 1: So I'll let you tell the people about how Roberto

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Speaker 1: Clemente was almost a Dodger.

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Speaker 2: Fact actually kind of was a Dodger. Yes, he was

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Speaker 2: signed by the Dodgers, but he was the first Rule

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Speaker 2: five pick in the history of the Rule five to

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Speaker 2: go from one team to another. So that's how he

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Speaker 2: ended up on the Pittsburgh Pirates. It was a financial

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Speaker 2: situation with a guy who had been in the system,

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Speaker 2: and he was the first Rule five pick ever, so

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Speaker 2: we just wondering, Jeff, what would baseball have looked like

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Speaker 2: if the Dodgers had hung on to Roberto Clementy and

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Speaker 2: not lost him to the Pirates.

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Speaker 1: So let's take a look at what would have happened

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Speaker 1: to the Dodgers had they had him nineteen fifty five.

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Speaker 1: In reality, the Brooklyn Dodgers did beat the Yankees in

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Speaker 1: seven games, and no change there. Still with ROBERTA. Clemene

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Speaker 1: on the Brooklyn Dodgers, then yeah, it's still happening. But

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Speaker 1: the big change, Dad, is the Dodgers would go back

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Speaker 1: to back because in fifty six they did face off. However,

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Speaker 1: the Yankees took fifty six. But in the simulation that

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Speaker 1: our friends of Strata Matic did, no, no, no, Roberta

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Speaker 1: Clemene four for eight bat five hundred in the World

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Speaker 1: Series and was able to lead the Dodgers to win

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Speaker 1: back to back World Series, which is a big, big

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Speaker 1: difference when you think about it. And then continuing onto

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Speaker 1: two other World Series victories for the Dodgers sixty three

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Speaker 1: and sixty five. Those were wins over the Yankees in

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Speaker 1: sixty three and over the Twins and sixty five, and

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Speaker 1: no change there. I mean the Dodgers were already built

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Speaker 1: to win, and ROBERTA. Clemene continued that had he been

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Speaker 1: a Dodger, So thank you to our friends of Strata

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Speaker 1: Maatic for working through this great simulation. And if you

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Speaker 1: have a simulation you want us to take care of,

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Speaker 1: You can let us know at great game or what

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Speaker 1: you can slide into our dms.

657
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Speaker 2: As they say, Dan, every week we have a team

658
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 2: tim where we pick a baseball team based on you know,

659
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 2: whatever stupid category we come up with. This is not stupid,

660
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 2: This is real. But it's This is my list as

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00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: all of the Jeff, it's not the correct list, it's

662
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: not the right list, it's not the only list. It's

663
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 2: my list, and I want our listeners and our viewers

664
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Speaker 2: to come up with their own list. But these are

665
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: the greatest, in my opinion, the greatest defensive players at

666
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: all of all time at each position. So Johnny Bench

667
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: is my catcher because he basically revolutionized the one handed

668
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: catching style. And I don't believe any catcher ever had

669
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: a stronger arm than Johnny Bench. Are you going to

670
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 2: argue with that, Jeff, You're probably too young. Padre play

671
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: is pretty good.

672
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: Right, I mean incredible arm. And I'm biased because he's

673
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: a former guest on the show, so he's my very

674
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: defensive catcher as well.

675
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: Right, Keith Hernandez is the best defensive first basement of

676
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 2: all time. First base is mostly a left hander's position.

677
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: Keith Hernandez left handed, and nobody, Jeff charged a bunt

678
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: and threw it across the diamond a third better than

679
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: Keith R. Nandaz. We don't see much of that today

680
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: because people don't bunt anymore. But trust me, KEITHR. Nanders,

681
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: I believe, is the greatest defensive first baseman ever, and

682
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: Don Mattingly for me is second, all right, And this

683
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: is just my list, not the official list. Second base

684
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 2: is really hard, Jeff, because statistically Bill Mazerowski is the

685
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 2: greatest defensive second baseman of all time, the number and nobody,

686
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: but nobody made the double play better than he did, Jeff.

687
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 2: And with those short, strong, stocky legs, he used to

688
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: stand right on the bag and tell anyone, go ahead,

689
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: slide into these legs. You're the one that's gonna get hurt.

690
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: And he was so quick with the transfer. No one

691
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: was better than him at that, so I hesitate to

692
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: take anybody else, but I'm gonna have to call it

693
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 2: a tie with Roberto Alomar, who was also great around

694
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: the bag in every way, but he had range that

695
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: Bill Mazarowski didn't have because he was much you know,

696
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: played much later in his career. So I'm gonna go

697
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 2: either Masarowski slash Alamar because I can't make a decision there.

698
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: My shortstop is Ozzie Smith, who I think is the

699
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 2: greatest defensive player at any position, and just I mean

700
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: and when you watch him, Jeff just bounce up and

701
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 2: be so acrobatic out there. One reason was he was

702
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: a gymnast when he was a kid, so he could

703
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: hit the ground and bounce up faster and better than

704
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: anyone I've ever seen.

705
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: Who's number two at shortstop, if you don't mind me asking.

706
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 2: I think it's o Marvis skel But that's what I'll

707
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: argue with that. But people are going to argue with everything.

708
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: That's the beauty of these baseball I want you to

709
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: argue with me on this. It's okay, it's healthy to

710
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: do that. I'm not wrong, You're not wrong. I'm not right.

711
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: You're not right. It's a discussion. Okay, So who's the

712
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: greatest third basement of all time? Jeff Defense, Let's see

713
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: if you know pop pop well enough, it's easy.

714
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: It's Brooks Robinson.

715
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: It has to be right.

716
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,959
Speaker 1: Just this year amount of gold gloves, right.

717
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 2: Sixteen gold gloves? And way do you hear the story

718
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: that Jim Palmer tells about Brooks Robinson later in this podcast.

719
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: I'd never heard it before and it is absolutely priceless. Okay,

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00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: the greatest defensive left fielder for me is Carly Stremsky,

721
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: And obviously he played his entire career in Boston. Nobody

722
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: played the wall better than him, but it didn't matter

723
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 2: where he played. I believe nobody played left field better

724
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 2: than Carly Stremsky. Willie Mays is my greatest center fielder

725
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 2: of all time. The range, the throwing arm. Nobody back

726
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 2: went back on the ball better than Willie Mays did.

727
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: And he, as Tim McCarver once told me, he was

728
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: the wall, meaning nothing got past Willie Mays landed in

729
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: the ballpark, he caught it.

730
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: I still think his catch in centerfield over his head

731
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: is the greatest catch ever caught on video in baseball history.

732
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: Right, well, yes, it's the greatest defensive play in the

733
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: history of the World Series nineteen fifty four Vic Wortz,

734
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: Indians and Giants. And just to show you how great

735
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: Willy was that he was very humble.

736
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 3: Jeff.

737
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: Willie looked at me once and said, I made at

738
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: least ten catches in my career better than that one.

739
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: That's how great Willie Mays was. And again, Roberto Clementi

740
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: is the greatest defensive right fielder of all time because

741
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 2: the throwing arm was unmatched of any outfielder in my opinion,

742
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 2: and the way he went to the line and would

743
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: spin and throw, he was just breathtaking to watch in

744
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: the outfield. And Jim Palmer is going to talk about

745
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: that also. Jim Palmer was a great fielding pitcher, so

746
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: was Jim Cott, who we mentioned. But I'm going to

747
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 2: go with Greg Maddox, who won the most Gold Gloves

748
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: of any pitcher ever. And here was the beauty of

749
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 2: Greg Maddox.

750
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: Jeff.

751
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 2: As a pitcher, he never threw a ball straight unless

752
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: of course he wanted to, so he had movement on everything.

753
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: But on a one six' three double play meaning a

754
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: comebacker To Greg maddox on the. Mound Walt, weiss one

755
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: of his shortstops In, atlanta told me once that nobody

756
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 2: threw a straighter ball to second base Than Greg. Maddox

757
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 2: so he had movement on every pitch that he. Threw

758
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 2: but when he, KNEW i have to throw a four

759
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: seamer something, straight so the second base shortstop second, base

760
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 2: we can catch it to make a. Throw nobody threw

761
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: a straighter ball Than Greg. Maddox and that's why he's

762
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: my pitcher on The all Tim Defensive.

763
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: Team you Mentioned Jim palmer as a member of The

764
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: All Defensive. Team he's our guest this, week And, dad.

765
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: KUDOS i, mean just a great. Get Another hall Of.

766
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: Famer we've now. Had this will be our correct me

767
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: If i'm, wrong our Third hall Of. Famer we've Had Johnny,

768
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: Bench we've Had Cal Ripken. Jr and Now Jim, palmer

769
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: WHICH i think is.

770
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: Great we've had a, Catcher we've, had you, know an,

771
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: infielder and now a. Pitcher this is perfect right and,

772
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 2: Again Jim palmer is the greatest pitcher in the history

773
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: of The. Orioles he's one of the greatest pitchers of all.

774
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: Time he won Three Cy Young, awards he was a

775
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: twenty game winner a ton of, times and he used

776
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: to throw high fastballs all the, Time, jeff and he

777
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: got away with it because he knew exactly what he was.

778
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 2: Doing and as we will establish on This Jim palmer

779
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 2: is one of the great athletes ever to play in

780
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: the major, leagues and that's one reason why he was

781
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 2: such a great.

782
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: Pitcher can you explain to everybody why you AND i

783
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: consistently call him cakes during the?

784
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: Interview, yeah, yes the good. Question when he came, up

785
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 2: he used to eat, pancakes as you, know carbs and

786
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 2: everything to get him ready for a.

787
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 3: For a.

788
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 2: Start so that's where pancakes became. Cakes and we can't

789
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: give out his email, address but the word cakes is

790
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: in his email, address so that's HOW i can't call

791
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: him anything other than cakes on first reference Now and

792
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: it was so cool at my own son Called Jim

793
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: palmer cakes in this interview.

794
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: Cakes Or Jim Palmer hall Of fame pitcher is? Joining

795
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: is this a great game or what coming up?

796
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: Next welcome back to is this great game or? What

797
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: and our guest Is hall Of fame, Pitcher Jim, palmer

798
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: the greatest oriole pitcher ever won A World series game

799
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: in three different. Decades, jim this is my Son. Jeff

800
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 2: we do a podcast. Together how great is?

801
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: That it's, Well i'll Be i'll be The. Jeff i'm

802
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 3: looking forward to, this you, know. Seriously so you, Know

803
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 3: i've loved the game SINCE i used to run down

804
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 3: the end of the driveway and it just instead of

805
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: the daily, news it was a daily. Mirror and When

806
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: yanks sweep, too they always played a doubleheader On. Sundays,

807
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 3: yanks you, know Split yanks very rarely lost to back

808
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 3: back in the forties and the. Fifties but you, Know

809
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: i've loved baseball AND i always wanted to be A.

810
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 3: Yankee that just never, materialized.

811
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 2: Right and who was your guy? Cakes growing? Up who

812
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: was the guy you looked at and SAID i want

813
00:44:59,120 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: to be?

814
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 3: Him, well Probably Mickey, mail you, KNOW i MEAN i

815
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 3: ended up BEING i MEAN i was a good. Outfielder

816
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: Billy martin want me to sign as an. Outfielder and

817
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: then my senior year in high school In, ARIZONA i

818
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 3: got a, stigmatism so balls THAT i used to CRUSH

819
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: i foul. Off SO i always had trouble wearing glasses and.

820
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 3: Pitching so you, KNOW i, MEAN i kind of pitched

821
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 3: with blur vision most of those. Years but apparently it's

822
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 3: considering WHO i actually had his, teammates it seemed to

823
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 3: work out pretty well blurred.

824
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: Vision, cakes this is the ultimate hand eye coordination. Sport

825
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: and you had blurred vision early.

826
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: On, hey you go To, cleveland try to pitch in that,

827
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: ball you, KNOW i, mean and then you know WHERE i,

828
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 3: mean we're into the racial world. Now But Elrod hendricks

829
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: used to paint his fingernails when he put the signs,

830
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: down And earl, said, well you know, what are you

831
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 3: making fun of? HIM i, said, NO i want to

832
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 3: see the. Science but then on third, BASE i don't

833
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 3: want to throw a fat and breaking ball when he

834
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: thinks it's a fastball and have it go back to

835
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 3: The he, said well you know this is AND i, Said,

836
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: earl let us handle. This you know the Old dave McNally.

837
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 3: Quote you, know the only thing you know about, Hitting,

838
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 3: earl this was tough, day or the only thing you

839
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 3: know about pitching was tough to. Hit everybody gives me

840
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: credit for, them but that Was dave McNally who set him. Straight.

841
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: Cake in your first major league, start you hit a home.

842
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 3: Run. Correct, no actually it was in. Relief. OKAY i

843
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 3: came in on A sunday afternoon against The. Yankees it

844
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 3: was a bunch. Situation you, know the great Author Jim

845
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 3: bowten was, pitching and though he Thought i'd be, bunting

846
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: And hank used to Let Don, larson who was on that,

847
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: team who was a terrific, hitter and of, course you

848
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 3: know the fifty six perfect game in The World series to,

849
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 3: call came up as a third. Baseman he became a

850
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 3: very good relief pitcher in bunch. Situations he'd let us

851
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: swing away on the first, pitch you, know everybody's coming,

852
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 3: in AND i mean he usually they threw high fastballs back,

853
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: then and Bount and threw me a high fastball out

854
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 3: over the, plate AND i hit a you, know high

855
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: ball down the right field line In baltimore and you,

856
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: know for two run home. Run and you, know probably

857
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 3: thirty years, LATER i was doing The Bob costa shows

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00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 3: and he, said did you ever hear the radio Of

859
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: Joe garagiola describing your first major league home? Run AND i, said, Actually, bob,

860
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: NO i. Haven't and he played it back and it

861
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 3: Was pepatone sneaking in at, First boyer creeping in at.

862
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: Third here's the pitch to nineteen year Old Jim. Palmer

863
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 3: it's a high drive to right center. Field nineteen year

864
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 3: Old Jim palmer has just homered over the right center field.

865
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: Wall and If palmer had pulled that, Ball boyer was

866
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 3: so close to home plate you would have had to

867
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: pick him up with a. Speccher so that's that's a

868
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 3: description By Joe garagiola.

869
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: On to have a you know that is, incredible Right, well, so,

870
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: yeah AND.

871
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 3: I never heard it for thirty, years BUT i, know

872
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 3: you know, again that Was Hank bauer being, aggressive and

873
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 3: you know he he let the guys that could hit

874
00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 3: a little.

875
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 1: Bit H, Jim it's pretty. Incredible in Your hall Of fame,

876
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 1: career you never gave up a Major League Grand. Slam,

877
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: however it's become a bit of a lure that you

878
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 1: did give up a minor League Grand?

879
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: Slam is that?

880
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: True to the one and Only Johnny?

881
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 3: Bench, YEAH i mean we WERE i Had i'm not

882
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: taking any away From, johnny who was one of the

883
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 3: greatest guys. Ever Do we actually went up in nineteen

884
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 3: sixty seven to play In buffalo and they had the Racial,

885
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 3: rids so they moved the. GAME i think we played

886
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 3: the first game there and that's Where The natural, was

887
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: which you know that movie was shot in that. Stadium,

888
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: WELL i Think Old War Memorial. Stadium and the irony

889
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: of that is the day before we played a day

890
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 3: game And johnny hit a jam shot to right field

891
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 3: AND i had just gotten there BECAUSE i had the sore,

892
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 3: arm AND i, said who's? That you, know who's that?

893
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 3: Guy they get always a punch atoty. Hitter he had

894
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 3: like fifteen home runs in twenty one games for The Buffalo.

895
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,959
Speaker 3: Advice so they moved the. Game they moved the game

896
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: From Warmorial stadium To Niagara. Falls in a college football,

897
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 3: GAME i had a bad. ARM i was warming up

898
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 3: on a burn mountain rights. Field they didn't have a

899
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 3: warm up, mountain AND, i you, know the first TIME

900
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 3: i threw a high fastball which is probably about eighty

901
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 3: four miles per, hour And johnny swung at it AND

902
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 3: i struck him. Out not on. PURPOSE i was just

903
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 3: my arm was killing. Me AND i had a six to.

904
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 3: Nothing leader's pitching AGAINST i think a left hander that

905
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 3: eventually would pitch with The Red Sox Dick steigmann. STIGMA

906
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 3: i walked the bases loaded with a six run, lead

907
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: and to, him you were Around Earl weaver when you

908
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 3: think he Was, oh he runs out to the mound and, says,

909
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 3: hey just throw THE i can't tell, you just throw

910
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 3: them all down to the right. RIGHT i, did And

911
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 3: johnny hit it about four hundred and fifty feet Towards Niagara,

912
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 3: falls and ear ran right out and took me out

913
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 3: of the, game and we went on to.

914
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: Win have you noticed That Jim balmer remembers pitch counts

915
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 2: and pitch from fifty years ago?

916
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 3: Long, well you know WHAT i, Remembered the three and

917
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: a half hour bus ride the Four myers one. Way,

918
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 3: oh SO i Told. Earl but it was great, though

919
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 3: because from then, on every TIME i would Tell, EARL i,

920
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 3: said do you remember what happened WHEN i went took

921
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 3: that three and a half hour bus? Ride SO i

922
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 3: never had TO i go up to the minor league

923
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 3: camp and pitch eight or nine innings in spring training

924
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 3: at the you, know towards the end and all. That

925
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 3: SO i never had to make another bus ride Four.

926
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 3: Myers and then WHEN i was going out to run

927
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 3: AFTER i gave up to ten, runs and fourteen hits

928
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 3: or whatever it. Was and, somebody you, know one of

929
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: the royal, fans Goes, PALMER i, go, yeah he, goes

930
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 3: you should have pitched left. HANDED i, said, No i'm.

931
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 3: Bad and then if the record we went to we

932
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 3: went To, cleveland AND i didn't get one of the cookie,

933
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 3: games you, know you, know Because cleveland wasn't that particularly,

934
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: good AND i ended, up you, Know lowly should already

935
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 3: was one and oh when he. CAME i THINK i

936
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 3: pitched the home opener In baltimore and on three to,

937
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 3: two you, know off At Mickey, lowis which is kind

938
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 3: of the way you had to Beat mickey because he

939
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 3: was such a terrific. PITCHER i, mean do people realize one,

940
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 3: year if you want to look at, numbers he pitched

941
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 3: three hundred and seventy six innings in one, year three

942
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy. Six and you know what he made that,

943
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: year fifty eight thousand. Dollars Go, mickey that's what you.

944
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 3: Know anybody rode the most motorcycle at The Tiger. Stadium

945
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 3: and didn't he have a donut?

946
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: Shop, yes he opened a donut shop in. Retirement how

947
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: great is?

948
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 3: THAT i think he might have had it even he

949
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 3: looked like he might have had a doulit or.

950
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: Two all, right some, cakes Tell, jeff because you told

951
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,959
Speaker 2: me this. STORY i remember like it was. Yesterday what's

952
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 2: the closest you ever came to giving up A Grand

953
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: slam in A major league? Game that night In? CLEVELAND i,

954
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: COULD i could do it for. YOU i want to hear.

955
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: IT i have seven starts to win twenty, games And

956
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 3: i'm going for number nineteen Against Dennis, secrecy who was

957
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 3: a dear friend of, mine one of the great pitchers

958
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: that ever pitched one hundred ninety, wins is starter three

959
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 3: hundred ninety wins as a. Closer and that IS i,

960
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: mean that is punching guys out at the. Point you,

961
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 3: know it's A saturday. Afternoon you know the The browns

962
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 3: have already. Played the field was never that good. Anyway

963
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 3: SO i get to the eighth, inning it's one to,

964
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 3: one And PAUL i Think Paul day hits a little

965
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 3: looper to right. Field the next, guy Buns decincy falls

966
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 3: down to third. BASE i won four goal. Gloves next

967
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 3: guy BUNCE i fall down at first. Base now the

968
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 3: base devoted nobody out in a one to one, game

969
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 3: AND i only got to have one more start after,

970
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 3: this AND i have to win this to get to

971
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 3: nineteen BECAUSE i want to win twenty. Games that's kind

972
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 3: of WHAT i did back. Then so, Anyway Bruce bok

973
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 3: chiefs the first hitter who hit three hundred four straight

974
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 3: years for The indians and The. ANGELS i get them to,

975
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 3: too AND i throw them high Fast bozy swings good

976
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 3: AND i strike them. Out NOW i, go, oh, okay

977
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 3: that's Now Andy, thornton who was Their All STAR rbi

978
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 3: leader first. BASEMAN i, go, OKAY i throw them a

979
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 3: fastball up in it and then he pops it. UP i,

980
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 3: SAID i may get out of.

981
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 4: This.

982
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 3: Now the next hitter Is Rico. Carti Now Rico, cardi

983
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 3: about two years earlier had hit three sixty six and

984
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 3: led the national leg and, hitting and he used the

985
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 3: standardkay con. Conye what does he know THAT i don't?

986
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 3: Know so, anyway so NOW i, go let's See Rico.

987
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 3: CARTY i threw him a slider in a GAME i

988
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 3: won four to one earlier in the, year and he

989
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 3: hit about four hundred and thirty feet the right center

990
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 3: field for a home, run but a solo home. RUN

991
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 3: i THINK i won four to, one but it's one

992
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 3: of those learning, pitches want you, know one of those information.

993
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 3: Pitches so we ruled out the. Slider yeah you know.

994
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 3: There SO i, go, okay take a deep, breath throw

995
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 3: him a high. Fastball he takes. It he never took.

996
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 3: It now it's it's one to. ZERO i take deep,

997
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 3: breath throw him another. One he takes that. Pitch now

998
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 3: it's two and. None NOW i can't walk him, because

999
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 3: LIKE i, SAID x got about ten or twelve. Strikeouts

1000
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 3: but he's pointing at guys that guys want to beat.

1001
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 3: Him and, ANYWAY i, said, okay just, relax trying to

1002
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 3: throw him alone away, fastball AND i kind of, do

1003
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 3: and he hits it off, up kind of, off you,

1004
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 3: know down towards the end of the. Back but he

1005
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 3: Was Rico cardi didan really big and he hits a

1006
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 3: fly ball left field And, albumbri who how's about what five,

1007
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: eight five? Nine he goes back and back and he

1008
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 3: doesn't jump over the. Fence he just reaches. Up but

1009
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 3: the ball may have hit the top of the. Fence

1010
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 3: but it's a lazy fly ball except the winds blowing.

1011
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 3: Out i'm on the foul line BECAUSE i thought it

1012
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 3: was pretty. Routine and next thing you, Know al's reaching

1013
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 3: up catches the. Ball now tells the. STORY i knew

1014
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 3: you were going to give up a grand. SLAM i

1015
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 3: knew five to one. Lead now he goes out there

1016
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: And Kenny singleton and who is terrific, player and then

1017
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 3: He murray's in The hall Of fame that backed it

1018
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 3: back home runs AND i went four to. One so

1019
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 3: the next Day i'm out running in the outfield AND

1020
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 3: i SEE i met him In James down at a

1021
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 3: dinner AND.

1022
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 4: I go.

1023
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 3: ACK i, said, yea, yeah it's. ME i, said but

1024
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 3: our job is not to show up guys at him

1025
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 3: and all. That our job is to get guys. Out

1026
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 3: AND i, said our guys want to beat you badly,

1027
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 3: enough because you're a terrific. Pitcher and he, goes, well you,

1028
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 3: know it's like talking To, god you know When Jim

1029
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 3: popper says something to me AND i again at. Him

1030
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 3: SO i thought it would do each, Other and to

1031
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 3: this day he, says, WELL i kind of learned. SOMETHING

1032
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 3: i didn't point it every. HITTER i just it the

1033
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 3: other way. Anyway and THEN i went in the eleventh,

1034
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 3: Inning rick debs a loopings base sit down the right

1035
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 3: field line to win my. Twentieth but that's kind of

1036
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 3: what you did back, then AND i didn't have to do.

1037
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 3: It but if you're going to win twenty games eight

1038
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 3: out of nine, years you got to pitch the. Innings

1039
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 3: you got to sometimes lose. GAMES i, mean WHEN i

1040
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 3: was eighteen and eighteen and six one year In, BOSTON

1041
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 3: i wanted to be nineteen and six really. Badly so

1042
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 3: that's why you pitch eleven innings And Ben olderby hits

1043
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 3: a pop fly down the left field line and lose. One,

1044
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 3: now it doesn't make you, happy but you did everything

1045
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 3: you can to give your chance game a chance to.

1046
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,479
Speaker 3: Win but, AGAIN i, mean that's the era THAT i pitched.

1047
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 3: HIM i don't THINK i was ANY i MEAN i was,

1048
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 3: good AND i did my, work AND i played on

1049
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 3: some really good. Teams we had the best money. Percentage

1050
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 3: But i'm doing what everybody else. Did and when you

1051
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 3: Roomin Robin, roberts when you're nineteen and eight thirty, eight

1052
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 3: and then you, look you, know back then you didn't

1053
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 3: have your. iPad but IF i went on my phone

1054
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 3: here or my, iPad That i'm talking with You, okay

1055
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 3: six hundred and five, starts three hundred and seven complete.

1056
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 3: Games guy could pitch at twelve feet shut, out you,

1057
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 3: know and you, go, geez you're going to help me

1058
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 3: learn about, that and you're going to mentor. Me that's

1059
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 3: how you. Learned so you, KNOW i learned from some

1060
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 3: of the greatest pitchers. Ever and IF i, wasn't they weren't.

1061
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 3: TEAMMATES i was certainly watching what they. Did and then

1062
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: you try to go out there and emulate. Them AND i,

1063
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 3: mean you, know every TIME i go back To, COOPERSTOWN i,

1064
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 3: MEAN i had a nice, career but so Did Ferguson,

1065
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 3: jenkins and so Did, carlton who won the second most

1066
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 3: games ever by what a left hand or three hundred

1067
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,479
Speaker 3: and twenty. Nine and then you, KNOW i Knew Warren

1068
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 3: spond and get stuck in an elevator with, him And

1069
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 3: buffalo asked about, it how did you win twenty games

1070
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 3: three teen times after you were twenty five that if

1071
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 3: you light up a, Cigarette i'm gonna kill. YOU i

1072
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 3: want to correct when we were stuck in an eligible.

1073
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 2: CAKES i want to get back to something THAT i

1074
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: talk about all the, time is how great, athletes baseball

1075
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: players are and they don't get the credit for. It

1076
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: so when you played on The orioles basketball team in the,

1077
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 2: offseason how many points a game did you average on that?

1078
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 3: Team, well IF i could get the ball away From Paul,

1079
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: blaine because that man could shoot. Me but you, KNOW

1080
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 3: i MEAN i was you, KNOW i led the. State

1081
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 3: somebody SAID i led the state scoring In. Arizona was

1082
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 3: going to get THE ucla WHEN i got out of

1083
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 3: high school and went. UP i went up to a

1084
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: college league AND i ended up. Signing but you, know

1085
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 3: AND i got sixty five, passes AND i, punted AND

1086
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 3: i ran back, kickoffs played defensive. Halfpack but that's the

1087
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 3: only guest we could talk. To my mom hat to

1088
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 3: allow me to do it WHEN i was a junior

1089
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 3: because all the scouts, said, hey don't let him play.

1090
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 3: Foot he's going to get, hurt you. Know SO i

1091
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 3: basically played three. Sports and of course you're also playing,

1092
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 3: tennis and you're also. Learned my mom was a real good,

1093
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 3: golfer so you, know i'd go out with her and play.

1094
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 2: Golf but you brought up.

1095
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: Tennis AM i? Mistaken are you able to play with both?

1096
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: Hands can you play? Righty and.

1097
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: Lefty, WELL i used.

1098
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 3: To be a lot of.

1099
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: IT i learned to.

1100
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 3: PLAY i was in The superstars and i'd Beat kyle

1101
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 3: wrote in, tennis AND i go to the tennis. Barn you,

1102
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 3: know all the housewives would be taking their kids to.

1103
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 3: School so between eight and NINE i had a young

1104
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 3: lady down At Bear hills THAT i would meet her

1105
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 3: and we would play for an. Hour And Maury schwartzman

1106
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 3: Taught Pam. Shriver he, said, hey anybody you know if

1107
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 3: you could, pitch you could, Serve SO i could. Serve

1108
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 3: BUT i. STARTED i won The superstars in the next

1109
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 3: year's one YEAR i didn't win twenty. GAMES i had

1110
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: some nerve. IRRITATION i think it was BECAUSE i foiled

1111
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 3: a ball off the bat up In, oakland BUT i

1112
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 3: didn't want to make. Sure SO i would actually play

1113
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 3: doubles With Frank cash AND gm down in spring, training

1114
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 3: And i'd be playing left handed and guy hit it

1115
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 3: overhead AND i would switch rack because he'd be, going, no, no,

1116
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 3: no don't don't hit that overhead with your right.

1117
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: Arm, cakes you won The, superstars, Did kyle? Wrote finished?

1118
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 3: SECOND i beat?

1119
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 2: Him, oh you beat him in? Tennis but what was it?

1120
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 2: Like competing in The superstars that WAS i.

1121
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 3: Mean In, parisingos those guys were really you. KNOW i

1122
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 3: mean Like jerelidis set the All. TIME i, said did

1123
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 3: you train for? It he goes, NO i played tennis

1124
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 3: three and a half. Hours so there were some really gifted.

1125
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 3: GUYS i Talked Brooks robinson and doing The obstacle. COURSE i, Go,

1126
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 3: brooksy what do you have to? Lose and the sun

1127
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 3: was going. DOWN i think we're in The, bahamas AND

1128
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 3: i SHOULD i, MEAN i felt so bad because you,

1129
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 3: know it's a twelve foot wall and you kind of

1130
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 3: have to go up the rope and then So brooksy's doing,

1131
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 3: it AND i see his hand come up the top

1132
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 3: of the, wall and about two minutes later here Is brooks's,

1133
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 3: body Rob and then you got to go through a

1134
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 3: water jump and all that, stuff AND i really felt

1135
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 3: bad for, it you. KNOW i, mean you, KNOW i

1136
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 3: was going to give one of my goal gloves so

1137
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 3: you'd have. Seventeen so That's.

1138
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: Cakes i've known you for forty years AND i have

1139
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: never heard The Brooks robinson at The Obstacle. Course it's.

1140
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 3: Unbelievable, WELL i, mean, What, brooksley what do you have

1141
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 3: to lose other than killing. Yourself, well you Know Brooks.

1142
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 3: September but there's no nicer human. Being Brooks probins great.

1143
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 3: Player talk about how you know those are the type of.

1144
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 3: Guys and number, one when you come to The oarls

1145
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 3: LIKE i did in, nineteen you, go who do you

1146
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 3: want to? Be? Like look? Around you, know do you

1147
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 3: want to be around the people that are rude maybe

1148
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 3: nice On monday and not? Nice or do you want

1149
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 3: to be around the guys that are great? Players but

1150
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 3: also you, know first THING i ever did WHEN i

1151
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 3: was In, Baltimore, hey if you're going to be part

1152
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 3: of the, community you, know become one of. Them And

1153
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 3: brooks had done. That he was nice to people Everywhere

1154
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,959
Speaker 3: i'd ever. Go, Guy, Yeah brooks was. HERE i, said

1155
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 3: how'd that? Go probably? Remarkably, well you know what a great? Guy.

1156
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: CAKES i want to know this. Connection SO i host

1157
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: a country music morning show In. Philadelphia So i'm a

1158
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: music guy at my at my, CORE i love. Baseball of,

1159
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: COURSE i grew up in a baseball. Family but there

1160
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: is a connection between you And Frank. Sinatra is this?

1161
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,479
Speaker 3: True well we beat when we've played our First World,

1162
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 3: series you, know sixty, six we trade For Frank. Robinson

1163
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 3: he wins The Triple. Crown you, know he's forty nine home.

1164
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 3: RUNS i don't, know you, know drives down one hundred

1165
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 3: and twenty five or. Whatever we go To Los, angeles you,

1166
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 3: Know brooks And Frank robinson head home runs Off Done

1167
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 3: drysdale in the first inning and then stand on the.

1168
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 3: Bench i'm, going, GEEZ i just don't want to embarrass. Myself.

1169
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 3: Tomorrow my parents are coming From. ARIZONA i have cousins.

1170
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 3: Here you, Know cofax was what twenty five and seven

1171
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 3: with a one ninety, era you, know three hundred innings

1172
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 3: or whatever it was to ninety equal amount of. Strikeouts

1173
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 3: so When Brugston franks hit home, RUN i, said, jeez

1174
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 3: we might have a chance to win. This we go

1175
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 3: back To baltimore and we win one, nothing one, nothing

1176
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 3: and The World series is. Over And sinatra And Dean

1177
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 3: martin bet The auriels to win four, straight forty to. One,

1178
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 3: no they went forty thousand. Dollars so when we go

1179
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 3: to spring training the next, year, yes who's at The Fountain.

1180
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 3: Blue we trained In, miami over On Miami beach at

1181
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 3: the Found. Blers Frank sinatra and we had a left

1182
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 3: handed pitcher by bonus kid by the name Of Frankie

1183
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 3: Britanna toys in the. Atic you, know he was crazy

1184
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 3: and he was left so he Knew, jilly who Knew

1185
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 3: frank who had a club with him or. Whatever AND

1186
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 3: i Guess jilly, said, hey you, know you did win

1187
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 3: forty thousand dollars betting on that team that's across the,

1188
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 3: causeway and he invited four. Couples so we went to

1189
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 3: See sinatra could have grabbed his. ANKLE i, Mean i'm,

1190
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 3: standing you, know sitting right at the stage to Meet

1191
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 3: Mia farrow, afterwards and people, said what was it, like you,

1192
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 3: know Meeting Frank. SINATRA i, said, well he's a little

1193
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 3: guy with sweaty pomps that can really.

1194
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 2: Stay all, right, cakes we need to Pick we don't Tell.

1195
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 2: Frank we need to talk to you About Roberto clementy

1196
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 2: because we Have Roberto Clementy day coming. Up just tell

1197
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 2: us what it was like to play against him in his,

1198
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 2: prime especially in The World.

1199
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 3: Series, WELL i mean IT'S i pitched against him in

1200
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 3: spring training AND i never worked For Protective cup and

1201
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 3: he actually hit a you, know top spin one or

1202
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 3: two hopper right back up the middle and it kind

1203
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,919
Speaker 3: of hit me just to the right and the left

1204
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 3: of the groin, area SO i kind OF i remembered

1205
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 3: who he. Was and then the other thing is one

1206
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 3: of the Great All Star games was the seventy One

1207
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 3: All Star game where there are six home. Runs you,

1208
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 3: know The america legue didn't beat The National league very.

1209
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 3: Much we end up, WINNING i think six to. Four

1210
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 3: everybody at a home run and that he is in

1211
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 3: The hall Of. Fame BUT i still remember the hanging

1212
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 3: curveball That Mickey lowly's through To Roberto clementy because he

1213
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 3: kind of fooled him And berto got out in his

1214
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 3: front foot and hit it over the four fifteen sign

1215
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 3: in the upper, deck And i'm, GOING i thought he

1216
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 3: was a. SINGLE i, mean so now we're in The

1217
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 3: World series AND i still remember the meeting because WHAT

1218
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 3: i Pitched game, TWO i, believe And clay Down repolte

1219
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 3: was a, catcher third, second third string catcher FOR us

1220
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:39,919
Speaker 3: had come over from The National. League but we're talking

1221
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 3: about how we're going to try to Get clemente. ON i,

1222
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 3: mean you, know they also Have Ritchie heavener And Bob,

1223
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 3: robertson and they got this guy's stargule who ended up

1224
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 3: hit four hundred and seventy nine home. Runs So clay, says,

1225
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 3: well you, know, hey throw him up and, in BUT

1226
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 3: i don't know if you want to do it more than.

1227
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 3: Once you, know, well you, know throw him a currveball or,

1228
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 3: slider but you don't really want to stay with that pitch.

1229
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 3: Either And i'm, thinking, well how do you ever get

1230
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 3: the gun? Out and then we found out you, don't you,

1231
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 3: know because he got thirteen. HITS i mean he hit

1232
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 3: every ball from. HERE i, mean you, know home run

1233
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 3: off me to right, field which was just a fastball,

1234
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 3: away you, know and then he tripled to left center

1235
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 3: field on a fastball over his. Head he we had

1236
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 3: trying to get the tie, running he took a ball

1237
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 3: off the wall down the three on nine sign and

1238
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 3: threw it on the line all the way in the,

1239
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 3: air no longer maybe fourteen feet, high all the way

1240
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 3: to home play stole. Bases really did everything that great players.

1241
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 3: DO i, mean it's an honor to get to play

1242
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 3: against those. Guys, now, obviously you, know thirteen, hits we

1243
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 3: ended up. Losing Steve blast had a great, series beat us.

1244
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 3: Twice you, know the last game was two to. ONE

1245
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 3: i but this is what baseball is all about when

1246
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 3: you get to see like just imagine if you were his.

1247
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 3: TEAMMATE i got to be With Frank robinson And brooksy

1248
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 3: and you Know ripkin And murray And, blair and you,

1249
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 3: KNOW i Saw Don buford At Dodger. Stadium you know

1250
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 3: it was one of the great leadoff. Guys or you

1251
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 3: know Boot, pali WHAT mvp and seventy second and sixty.

1252
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 3: Nine if you get to come to the ballpark as a,

1253
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,439
Speaker 3: player what's it like to play with those type of. Guys,

1254
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 3: Clementee LIKE i, said you, know hey can go, here

1255
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 3: but don't do it more than. Once so because he

1256
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 3: could hit, everything most hitters had. Holes but of all

1257
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 3: the hitters THAT i, FACED i, Mean karu got his.

1258
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 3: Singles George brad was a marvelous. Player DO i want

1259
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 3: to give you a single to the, Left, george OR

1260
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 3: i want you to hit one on the. QUARTERFALL i

1261
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 3: wanted to give him a single to left kill. It you,

1262
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 3: know With, CLEMENTING i didn't want him to hit home

1263
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 3: run the right, field OR i didn't want him to

1264
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,439
Speaker 3: triple on a high class ball on the left. Field

1265
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 3: but he had the capabilities of hitting any pitch you.

1266
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 2: Through all, Right, Cake so let's pivot to the twenty

1267
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 2: twenty Four. Orioles you're a broadcaster for the. Team you

1268
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 2: work with our dear Friend Kevin, brown who does the

1269
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 2: Greatest Jim palmer Personation i've ever.

1270
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 3: SEEN i love.

1271
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 2: It, oh it is so. Funny have you never Heard Kevin?

1272
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 2: Brown do? You?

1273
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 3: No he. DID i asked him to Do Vin scully

1274
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 3: of The Night Roger. Yep let. ME i want everybody

1275
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 3: to know. This it was pathetic because he's good At

1276
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 3: he's good just about.

1277
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 4: It.

1278
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 2: Everything, well he's great at. Impersonating you just, tell just

1279
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 2: tell us about the twenty twenty Four. Orioles where are?

1280
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 3: They?

1281
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 2: Cakes what do you see when you watch?

1282
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 3: Them? WELL i see a mash unit with thirteen guys

1283
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 3: in THE. IL i mean it's. Okay the league is

1284
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 3: not as good as it was last. Year but even last,

1285
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 3: year what The yankees had to do a stretch run

1286
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 3: to get to eighty two and Eighty you, know The

1287
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 3: Red sox. Underachieved you, know they had all kinds of.

1288
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 3: Injuries you, Know, toronto who knows what's going on up?

1289
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 3: THERE i don't. Know they spend a lot of money

1290
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 3: and don't really play as probably as well as they

1291
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 3: should because they have some really good. Players it's a

1292
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 3: foot race to the Barn AND i don't know The.

1293
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 3: Orioles you, know they got to play The Red, SOX

1294
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 3: i think three or. Four they got six games with The,

1295
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 3: tigers who were playing well the last. Week tough, schedule

1296
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 3: play The yankees up up In New. York that should

1297
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 3: be a tremendous. Series but there's gonna be some, big,

1298
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 3: big big games for The. Oriols looks like they're going

1299
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 3: to get some of their players. Back you can't ever

1300
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 3: give one of the best young players in, Baseball Gunner,

1301
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 3: henderson a day, off because you don't really have a

1302
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 3: backup short. Stuff But tail would have been that.

1303
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 2: Guy And, cakes what's it been like Watching Gunner henderson

1304
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 2: developed last year and now?

1305
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 3: This, Well, tim you've been around the game a long.

1306
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 3: TIME i, mean you, know let's go. Back Did Willie

1307
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 3: mays want to go? Home? Yeah, yeah you Know Leos

1308
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 3: russia had to call his, dad and his dad had

1309
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 3: to tell Them, Willie you're not coming. Home you know

1310
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 3: at a slow. Start What cal told us he was

1311
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 3: on one of our. TELECASTS i thought it was only

1312
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 3: five for fifty, seventy so it was actually four for

1313
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 3: sixty eight or, something you, know and then he ended

1314
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 3: up hitting two. Eighty you, know they just had The

1315
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 3: hall Of fame. Weekend Nick markakus had won eighty two

1316
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 3: the first month in the big. League So gunner last,

1317
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 3: YEAR i think he. Started you, know we saw him

1318
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 3: In august of twenty, two you know In. Cleveland you,

1319
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 3: know they kept throwing them, sliders speeding the bat. Up

1320
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 3: he's hitting home runs that go the league will Of.

1321
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 3: Jeffs but last year he's hitting one ninety. Nine going Into,

1322
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 3: june he's four for forty three on breaking balls and change.

1323
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 3: Ups this year he hits more change ups and breaking

1324
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 3: balls from home runs at. Fastballs not that he can't

1325
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 3: hit the, fastball BUT i think the problem for him

1326
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 3: he plays every you, know he's so young in the.

1327
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 3: Motive he never comes Off. Max you, know he's going

1328
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 3: down the highway as fast as he can. Go AND

1329
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 3: i think he'll learn because he's a marvelous. Player you,

1330
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 3: know going back To, Brooks, ROBINSON i, Said, brooks you've

1331
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 3: been here since what fifty? Seven have you ever seen

1332
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 3: a player and you, know we've been a lot of

1333
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 3: great players that is that athletically gifted As Gunner. Henderson he, Goes, jimmy,

1334
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 3: no never Have, wow but a lot of great PER

1335
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 3: i mean that's, so you, know and, hey he looks

1336
01:09:58,360 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 3: like he could. PROBABLY i mean he's a good basketball.

1337
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 3: Player you. Know again you talked about baseball players being good.

1338
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 3: Athletes and he's very. Respectful he calls, me sir one more.

1339
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 3: Time i'm already dated.

1340
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: Enough this was a real, joy and on a very selfish,

1341
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: note to be with A hall Of fame pitcher and

1342
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: A hall Of fame writer and to just be a

1343
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 1: little part of, this it's it's a dream come true

1344
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: to work with my. Dad and Really i've got a

1345
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 1: lot of friends who listen to this who are Big

1346
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,719
Speaker 1: oriole fans and their dads as. Well so to share

1347
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: you with them is it's going to be really. Special

1348
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 1: AND i can't thank you enough for.

1349
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,759
Speaker 3: You any, guitars he, said you're in the Country, WESTNANT

1350
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 3: i don't see.

1351
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: Any oh they're over.

1352
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 2: Here don't.

1353
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 1: Worry there you, go there we. Go, yeah, this, jim

1354
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: this is the baseball set behind me for is this

1355
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: a great game or? What Which we've got plenty of collectibles.

1356
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 2: There jeff. Can jeff could play the piano and he

1357
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 2: can sing. Too it's.

1358
01:10:56,280 --> 01:11:02,719
Speaker 3: Amazing really, well my my my wife's cousin Is Steven.

1359
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 3: Earl you know who's A West Country western.

1360
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 2: City really that's great. Company all, Right mama got out of.

1361
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 3: PRISON i was standing there in the. Rain it's not

1362
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 3: a real country long unless you have, mama unless you have,

1363
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 3: prison unless you have.

1364
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 2: Rain, jeff how about? This we Had Johnny bench And

1365
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 2: Jim palmer sing to us on our. Podcast how great is?

1366
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 3: THAT i, mean you know we're Actually george straight. Fans

1367
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 3: so fun.

1368
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: Fact my wife AND i we've been married a couple

1369
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 1: of years. Now our first, date our first date was

1370
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: A George strait.

1371
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 3: Concert how was he as?

1372
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: Fantastic he played in the round as he, does, right

1373
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: and he stood there and sang no. Flashiness he would

1374
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 1: face the audience for two, songs then he would turn

1375
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 1: it and face this. Side he turned back and face.

1376
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: And it was.

1377
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. THOUGH i will tell you this fun. Story, we're oh,

1378
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: gosh maybe twenty five and twenty three at the, time

1379
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 1: and we were getting to know each. Other and if

1380
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: you know that crowd, respectfully they're not getting up and

1381
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,799
Speaker 1: they're not. Ruckus so we got shushed right the people

1382
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,679
Speaker 1: in front of us BECAUSE i was, saying so how many? Siblings,

1383
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: yeah what do you do?

1384
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 3: For?

1385
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 2: Cakes thank you so much for joining. Us this has

1386
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 2: been a.

1387
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 3: Blast, okay, guys all.

1388
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 1: Right thank, You Jim, Cakes Jim palmer on is this

1389
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 1: a great game or? What and so many great moments

1390
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: from that, interview but just so fitting for what's coming

1391
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: up On. SUNDAY. Roberta Clemente, DAY i think him talking

1392
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: about how great of a, player AND i love the

1393
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,600
Speaker 1: you can throw them that, pitch but don't throw it.

1394
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 1: Twice he was, like, oh, well how the heck do

1395
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 1: you get them? Out you. Don't that is just such

1396
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,759
Speaker 1: a beautiful representation of a pitcher respecting a hitter's.

1397
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,799
Speaker 2: Ability oh, yeah And, jeff this speaks to why. Baseball

1398
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 2: one of a million reasons why baseball is so great

1399
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 2: is the pitcher at her. CONFRONTATION i, MEAN i go

1400
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 2: back to nineteen sixty, six is really the First World

1401
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:09,879
Speaker 2: series THAT i can understand WHAT i was truly. Watching

1402
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 2: and you, Know Frank robinson is Facing Sandy. Kofax you,

1403
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:19,600
Speaker 2: know in sixty Seven Triple crown Winner Carly stremsky is

1404
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 2: Facing Bob. Gibson on nineteen sixty Nine Frank, Robinson Brooks

1405
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 2: robinson Facing tom Sever and this goes in Every world,

1406
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 2: series that beautiful great, hitter great pitcher confrontation and seventy

1407
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 2: One Jim palmer Against Roberto. Clementy that's What world series

1408
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 2: memories are all. About and it just saddens me a

1409
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 2: little bit that our starting pitchers don't go more than, five,

1410
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 2: six seven innings in A world series, anymore because you

1411
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 2: want to See palmer Against clementy in four at, bats

1412
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 2: not in two at.

1413
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,560
Speaker 1: Bats next week we have a great guest on the,

1414
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 1: Show Dan patrick is going to be joining. Us thank

1415
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: you so much for, listening and as, always thank you

1416
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: for being a part of our. Family