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Speaker 1: the Sticks. I'm Bucky Brooks and this is Joe Burrows.

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Speaker 1: Three for all, throws over the top, lots it, Dick

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Speaker 1: So the gun singer Joe Burrow, Well, thank you guys

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Speaker 1: the end Jeffers said, is there and Burrow quick strike

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Speaker 1: of wired the right way. Yeah, I think there's something

430
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: to be in the little brother man. Uh. It just it.

431
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: It makes you tougher, UM, And that's uh, that seems

432
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: to be the case here with Joe Burrow as well. Well,

433
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: go back to Ohio State and do your homework on

434
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. You find out some interesting things. And we've

435
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: had a chance to do that with um some former

436
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: teammates as well as former coaches, including arguably one of

437
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: the top five coaches I would say in college football

438
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: over the last forty fifty years. I mean, Urban Meyer

439
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: has done nothing but when at an extremely high level

440
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: before walking away from the Ohio State program and had

441
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: a front row seat to his time with Joe Burrow

442
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: there in Columbus, and we had a great chance to

443
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: visit with Urban Meyer. Early on, it was all about

444
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and wide receivers. That's what your expertise is. So

445
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: I kind of want to take you down that road

446
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: with these young quarterbacks. One that just came out in

447
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins and another one that people are talking about

448
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 1: in Joe Burrow. When you look at those guys, us,

449
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: what is it about them their makeup, a whatever that

450
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: allows them to be successful at the level that they

451
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: are in the level that they will be at. Dwyne

452
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: Askins is our best quarterback ever to play don't have state,

453
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, and Dwayne was one of those guys. I

454
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: just call him Spandex quarterbacks and that's all they do

455
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: is play, you know, seven on seven and you know,

456
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: put on the spandex and the headband, and I think

457
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: that's what's a good one like that. I'm still that one.

458
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: What I'm still in that. Joe was a little bit

459
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: further behind, you know why. Joe was also Mr Ohio

460
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: and basketball and they had a great team in the

461
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: state championships and you know, he's just one of those

462
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: all purpose, tough guy leaders and so he maybe was

463
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: not a spandex quarterback but became a great one because

464
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: he worked so hard at it. Joe Burrower' that's this

465
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: is a no brainer, absolutely no brainer. Now he can

466
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: he throws accurate as Dwayne. He's improved, but he wasn't

467
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: that way. But his leadership skills is toughness, is competitive.

468
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: You talked about a competitive maniac. I mean, that's who

469
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is. Buck. I thought the on comparing what

470
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: you had previously there with Dwayne Haskins and I love

471
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: spandex quarterback, Uh, comparing that with Joe Burrow and talking

472
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: about Joe just being a maniac competitor and somebody that

473
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: was playing all different sports. Um, It's something we talked

474
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: about all the time on the Movie Sticks podcast, how

475
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: much we love the multi sport athlete. Yeah. I think

476
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: he comes through in his play. I think one of

477
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: the reasons why Joe Burrow has been such a talented

478
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: quarterback and an elite performers because of his basketball experience.

479
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: We've had numerous coaches come on the podcast and talk

480
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: about that, talk about division and how it translates, talk

481
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: about just a competitiveness and the cooperation that you have

482
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: to have to be an elite basketball player. Well, Joe

483
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: Burrow has that He's played at a high level on

484
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: the hardwood. I think that, uh, those experiences have helped

485
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: him become an elite player on the gride. And I

486
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: think it's one of those things that you want to

487
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: continue to dig into when you think about why he

488
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: is the way that he is. Uh. The multi sport

489
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: background certainly helps well. When you're talking about somebody's competitiveness,

490
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: sometimes you need an example and exhibit a what Joe

491
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,239
Speaker 1: Burrow would be. This video that really went viral on

492
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: social media, which was a competition drill at Ohio State

493
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: of Matt Drill uh involving a tire. This video went

494
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: viral and Bucky You got a chance to talk to

495
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: j K. Dobbins, Jordan Palmer, and Chase Young about it.

496
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: The tie drill is is a drill that coach MC does.

497
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: He surrounds the team at the end of a Matt drill,

498
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, the team, the whole team is watching and

499
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: he'll call two people up and they'll go against each other.

500
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: And he called Joe Burrow up, and he actually called

501
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: another bigger body like up against him and his shoe

502
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: comes off. He's fighting like he started. He started off

503
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: and the guy was beating him. And he comes back

504
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: and he shoes all off and he's still you can

505
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: see the first competitor in him at the end when

506
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: he beats the guy. You know, it's pretty hype. Yeah.

507
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: I just think that's a testament to competitiveness. And it's

508
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: easy to say, right, Like he's ripping the tire other

509
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 1: guy's hands and he wants it more than the other guy.

510
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: We don't know who that other guy is, right, he

511
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: lost his shoe, he battled through it. Cool. Um. I

512
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: just think if you are a competitor, then it's in

513
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: every phase, right. I work with young players. I say,

514
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: if you're gonna, if you call yourself a competitor, you

515
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: better be competing in the classroom. You can't pick and

516
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: choose where you want to compete, right. You can't just say, well,

517
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: I'm really good at running sprints in the off season

518
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 1: with my buddies. That's easy. Like do you compete in

519
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: every phase? Um? And with Joe, I see it. I

520
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: mean you guys masters, I mean when you get your

521
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: Masters and you know you're going to the league, you're

522
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: You're not doing it to further your education and set

523
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: yourself up for success to go sell insurance down the road, Like,

524
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: that's not what you're doing it. You're doing it because well,

525
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: if I have a chance to get my masters and

526
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: no one else is I want to do it? Is

527
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: that common for a quarterback to jump in and be

528
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: asked to participate in that stuff? No, but Joe would different. Dude, Well, DJ,

529
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: here here's the thing, like, UM, the ultimate sign of

530
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: respect that a quarterback can get from his teammates is

531
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: to really feel like he's one of the guys us.

532
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: And I think, uh, the reaction that you heard from

533
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: Dobbin is in young he was Joe Burrow was treated

534
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: like one of the guys. He was respected because of

535
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: the ficiness, the resilience, to toughness, all of those things.

536
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: And then when Jordan Palmer just talks about how he's

537
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: just wired that way to be competitive and to want

538
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: to UM succeed in every aspect, whether it's on the

539
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: field or off the field. I think the Matt Drill

540
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: story just kind of like UM highlights that, it highlights

541
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: who he is and what he is as a competitor.

542
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: I love it. I mean I always talk about that

543
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: Steve Young line, right, you know, over my dead body,

544
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: are we're gonna lose this game, that type of competitiveness,

545
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: and that shows up and in every drill that he's done,

546
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: both there and at at L s U. The stories

547
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: we heard there as well. Uh, speaking of L. S U. Buck,

548
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: you also had a chance to catch up with the

549
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: quartet of his teammates there with the Tigers. When you're

550
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: talking about uh running back in Clyde Edwards a layer,

551
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: a tight end, and Thaddeus Moss a receiver, and Justin

552
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: Jefferson and an edge rusher and Calvan Chase on. Uh,

553
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: here is your conversation with his four L s U teammates,

554
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: your quarterback, Joe Burrow is. It's something remarkable. This may

555
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: have been the finest football season that we've seen from

556
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: college football quarterback. What makes Joe Burrow so special the

557
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: way the way he the way he analyzes things, and

558
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: the way he prepares. And that's where it comes down to, Uh,

559
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: Joe was Joe was a guy who was in the

560
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: facility in the morning and and leaving after everybody else. Uh.

561
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: He is he is the ultimate of court NFL quarterback

562
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: and that is that's how he That's how he displayed

563
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: himself of you know, through college and was going to

564
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: continue to do it. So how how because obviously you

565
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: were there l s U the entire time. Joe kind

566
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: of shows up a season ago. It's it's uncommon for

567
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: a transfer to kind of come in and be a

568
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: starter right away. How do you earn the respect of

569
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: his team is quickly the biggest thing. Uh. I think

570
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: that that that caught everybody by surprise. Devin White was

571
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: was was chirping at I'm at at practice, um, and

572
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: Joe started, you know, Joe started coming back at him.

573
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: And ultimately a guy who's U pretty much just transferred

574
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: in and has you know, he has the he had

575
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: that leadership role immediately UM, and he showed you know,

576
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: he's he's not scared of anything. And Devin ultimately was

577
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: doing it to make you know, to make sure you know,

578
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: this is the guy that we want to play quarterback.

579
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: And from that point on everything just took off. It's

580
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: funny that you you bring up Devin White, because Devin

581
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: White to me, they told me he was kind of

582
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: the god father down there in terms of like he

583
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: had to bless everybody before they were kind of brought

584
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: into the fold. And so when Joe goes and does that,

585
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: it also speaks to his competitiveness. How competitive is Joe

586
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: from probably the most competitive person that that you would

587
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: ever meet. Uh, And you know, for the most part,

588
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: he'll he'll sit back and not really say anything. But

589
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: when that when it's when it's time and that balls

590
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: on the field is on. So it's funny because man,

591
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: and watching a bunch of your games and watching you

592
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: guys go this on this magic run to the national title,

593
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: you would see games where it wasn't necessarily that the

594
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: game was hanging in the balance, but Joe had some

595
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: nippintuck affairs that were kind of physical and at some

596
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: point you need a guy to make it play. It

597
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: seemed like he was one of the catalysts to you

598
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: guys being able to make plays like where does that

599
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: come from? His he common huddle? How is he in

600
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: those critical situations? I think we we probably had the

601
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: most calm huddle or just you know, calm demeanor about

602
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: our offense. We were just out there having fun, uh

603
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: and being able to being able to have that guy who,

604
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, if he needed to, uh take over make

605
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: a play, running the ball rose and scared to get hit. Uh,

606
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: that's something that's that's that's rare in the quarterback. It

607
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: is kind of rare. You know, the thing is rare.

608
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: It's rare to see how much you guys genuinely loved him.

609
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: One of the things that stood out is when he

610
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: would get awards or honors on the field, you guys

611
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: will be right there, like generally supporting him, and sometimes

612
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. So it must be something special about

613
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: him in the connection that you guys have, Yes, sir, Um,

614
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: I mean we we don't look at each other's teammates. Uh. Ultimately,

615
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: in that locker room, we were we were brothers. And

616
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: that's just that's just how the mold of it is, Um.

617
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: And you can tell you know him coming into Louisiana

618
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: and understanding though it's it's different down south, Southern hospitality

619
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: is real, and I think it was. I think it

620
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: was more more intense in that locker room and us understanding,

621
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: you know, we need to come together and we we

622
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: have this guy who's who's ultimately gonna gonna miss it all.

623
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of the conversation surrounding Joe Burrow.

624
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: It kind of revolves around his competitiveness. Um, give an

625
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: example of the competitive nature of Joe Burrow that you've witnessed.

626
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll just I'll just keep it easy. The

627
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: hits that he took, the hits that he took during

628
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: the season, you know, he embraces him. He will not slide.

629
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: And he's a quarterback that will not slide. No matter

630
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: what everybody says you need to start sliding, he won't slide.

631
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: He likes taking a hit. Um. Probably the biggest one

632
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: was the Auburn Auburn game on the sideline. He's running

633
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: on the sideline and the dude cleans him. Uh. I

634
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: think it's appenally, but the dude cleans him. He gets

635
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,239
Speaker 1: right back and it was a hard hit too. When

636
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: he got right back up with a smile on his

637
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: face and like embraced it. And you know the team

638
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: does not like we just naturally rally around, you know,

639
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: ally around him. Um. You know, being at LSU, physicality

640
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: and toughness is naturally in our dna. UM. But yeah,

641
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: after that hit, you know everybody just riding around them.

642
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: It is funny because you talked about his competitiveness, and

643
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: then it naturally kind of yeers to his leadership ability.

644
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: What kind of leaders Joe, girl, He's one of the

645
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: best leaders I've been around. Uh, you know, everybody just naturally,

646
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: just naturally, um, you know, follows him and he can

647
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: do the hell. He'll lead by example, uh you know,

648
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: in the all season, in the way room, during the

649
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: during the game, and he'll be vocal when he needs

650
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: to be vocal. I think the best I think the

651
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: best story of him and his leadership is when he

652
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: first got to l s U. You know, a lot

653
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: of a lot of people felt some type of way

654
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: when he got there because we had some quarterbacks transfer

655
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: and stuff. So some guys felt some type of way

656
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: and we had a player players only meeting and he

657
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: got up in front of it. He got up in

658
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: front of the team and was like, hey, guys, look,

659
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm your starting quarterback, okay, but if

660
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm the second second string, third string quarterback, you know

661
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do whatever it takes to help you all

662
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: win foot help his team win football games. Um, you know,

663
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if I'm starting or I'm on the bench.

664
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna give you, give you all everything

665
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: I got and ever since that day on everybody he

666
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: was like okay, like you like him, you know, and

667
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: we're rolling with him from there. Talk a little bit

668
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: about him. What makes him so special? His leadership, his

669
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: leadership and his work ethic. Um just you know, staying

670
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: after practice and getting those extra reps are you know,

671
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: meeting up on Saturdays and having more routes to run.

672
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: So um, just him coming in and being at that

673
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: guy from Ohio just you know, not knowing anybody and

674
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: then coming in and running our team. So he did

675
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: a great job in uh last season, and he brought

676
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: us a national championship. It's funny. So you talked about

677
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: him coming from Ohio not knowing anyone, but earning your respect.

678
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,479
Speaker 1: What was it about him? How did he go about

679
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: earning you guys respect? Joe had that swagger. Um, just

680
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: that that confidence that he had and uh, I mean

681
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: we were confident in him as well. So him every

682
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: game just being focused and um just not showing any fear,

683
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: just not being nervous. That helped us out as a

684
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: as a team. And uh, just having that confidence with

685
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: him and going into that game and knowing that he's

686
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 1: gonna put those throws exactly what you want them. It's

687
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: funny because you could tell you guys really really liked

688
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: it because when he would get awards and honors, when

689
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: you would see the reaction of the teammates, it seems

690
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: like you guys were all in, Like, was there a

691
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: genuine affinity for him? Did you guys really respect him

692
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: and all the things, because sometimes that situation can be different,

693
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: like people are envious, but it seems like you guys

694
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: generally liked him and cared about Yes, we all love Joe.

695
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: Um just from him. I especially have that connection with

696
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: him because we kind of came from the you know,

697
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: same background. Just not being highly recruited. Um, just being

698
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: one of those those telling the players that you know,

699
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: don't have that that high rise like you know most

700
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: people do. So uh, just him being kind of like me,

701
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: and uh, just seeing him receive those awards and you know,

702
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: just being with me to win these games and winning

703
00:35:53,280 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: the national championships. So we're definitely excited for him. What

704
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: makes him a special player? How was he able to

705
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: kind of earn you guys respect so quickly at L

706
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: this year? So when Joe, when Joe came, we had

707
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: we had two other quarterbacks that transferred going in that

708
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: fall camping, especially just going to the season where a

709
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: lot of things were changing for us, for the team

710
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: and wonder and but when when all that was going on,

711
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: Joe just talked to the team that was Look, man,

712
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: I'm not here to be anybody's um competition and anybody's

713
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: anybody's enemy. But I'm here just for you guys. I'm

714
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: here for I'm here for the same reason you guys here.

715
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: I want to win, I want to feed my fan

716
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: I want to get to the next level. And I

717
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: don't mean anything to any harm, any personal to to anybody,

718
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: has any person feeling towards me. But at the end

719
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: of the day, I just met you guys. But you

720
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 1: guys are my brothers, and I'm trying to do everything.

721
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: WHI y'all beat you guys this any way, and um,

722
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: when it comes to the weight room and on the field, Uh,

723
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: Joe's one of the toughest guys and not the toughest

724
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: on in the way room and on the field. As

725
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: far as when I say that, any time, any time

726
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: anything is going on, let's say it's a physical fight

727
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: between offensive d line, Joe's head first trying to get

728
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: in there. So when to just say he's all about

729
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: us and he's a he's a brother, and no matter

730
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: how many accolades he can get, he's always been the

731
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: most umble person possible. Who's a better basketball player? You're

732
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: Joe by far me, I mean Joe was Joe was exceptional.

733
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: Joe was all stage. I mean, I know you took

734
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: some time off like in high school, and he played

735
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: with Joe was exceptional. But I'm great, like I'm I'm

736
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: telling you, if I getting the gymick, it looks like

737
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: I have twenty three on said. Okay, so now when

738
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: I when I looked at the little thing y'all had

739
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: a little shoot off, was that the semifinals? Semi right right? Good?

740
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: Just yeah? I wait, wait wait wait time on time

741
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: I was in the lineup, I scored the second most

742
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 1: points behind Joe Twitter. Everybody wants to see the quarterback.

743
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: So that's what it is. Don't making sure. I just

744
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: don't account. Okay, so you said between you and him

745
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: that that that you would win. But Joe was very competitive.

746
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about his competitors. Are you sure you?

747
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a competitor man that I mean, obviously

748
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: his competitens is up there. I mean, we all watched

749
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: the UCL game when that happened, and and then he

750
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: came to sideline fired up and nothing. And I remember

751
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 1: this year was Vanderbilt vander game. We didn't have Obviously,

752
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: we didn't hand on like we want, so we felt

753
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: like we did a little more. But I mean it

754
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: was it was a bunch of talking going out there

755
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: and Joe just he's in that mix too. He's not

756
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: afraid to get in there. He every if you ever

757
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: watched Joe Blaye, he's not trying to slide, he's trying

758
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: to put his head down. He's trying to get in

759
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: the game of yards. And that's something that obviously you

760
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: wanted in the quarterback and is something that kind of

761
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: scares you a little bit. But UM, thankful for the

762
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: mind said that got us where we were. You know, DJ.

763
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: What I love about Joe Burrow's connection with his L

764
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: s U teammates um and watching him and observing not

765
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: only what they said, but the way they light up

766
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: when they talk about him, and the way that they

767
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: really lit up whenever he would win an award on

768
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: the field, whether it's being uh m v P at

769
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: the playoff game, or the way that he was kind

770
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: of praise after winning the National championship game. You could

771
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: see the reaction of his teammates, a genuine gratitude and

772
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: appreciation for what he's accomplished. And that's uncommon and what

773
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: to me that does. It speaks to his connectivity, the

774
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: way that he earned their respect, the way that he

775
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: continued to nurture those relationships, the way that they are

776
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: pleased to see him succeed in in an unselfish way.

777
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: And I think that is maybe one of the best

778
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: qualities that he has, his connectivity and chemistry and report

779
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: with his teammates, the fact that they revere him not

780
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: just because of what he does with the feel but

781
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 1: how they respect him as a play in a person

782
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: Buck I. I just think when you when you get

783
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: a chance to visit with teammates, that's when you learn

784
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: about guys. And I go back to my time and

785
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: as a scout, and you know, when you get to

786
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: the combine interviews you bring in the player, you know,

787
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: asking a player, hey, what kind of leader on you?

788
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: On a scale of one to ten, I mean, every

789
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: kid says a tenant's completely worthless. Right. The way you

790
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: find out about how guys are as leaders, you bring

791
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: in their teammates and you ask their teammates about them.

792
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: And that's what we've had the opportunity to do in

793
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: visiting your sit downs with these Ohio State teammates and

794
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: with these l s U teammates, And I think you

795
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: get a very clear picture of what Joe Burrow is

796
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: with as a as a leader and as a competitor.

797
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: And I think it's a great insight they were able

798
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: to get from these conversations. Another person with insight into

799
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow somebody who's called a bunch of his games

800
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: this past season. Uh, somebody who is a former Buck

801
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: Eye knows that Programatal House stayed extremely well. And uh,

802
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: I think as a real, real pulse on what makes

803
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow tick is Kirk kerk Street. And it was

804
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to have a chance to visit with Herbie

805
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: about Joe Burrow. And here's that chat. Is last year

806
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: the best college football seating you've ever seen from a

807
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: quarterback in what Burrow did. Because normally we talked about

808
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: it like okay in the in the draft room, you'd say, Okay,

809
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: watch this game this game. This game, all right, give

810
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: me a bad game to watch, like bad game, like

811
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: I can't find like bad drives or series with this

812
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: kid this year. There's no bad tape. Dude. It's amazing.

813
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: He's he's he just I started to run out of

814
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: things to say, like, you know what, it's like what

815
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods was in his prime. It's like, he's really

816
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: good again. There he is. I mean, this kid and

817
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: there's been so I've covered some great players in doing

818
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: this for a long time, but it was it was

819
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: a perfect storm, right. It was the combination of Joe

820
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: Brady bringing that that Saint system to new Orth or

821
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: to Baton Rouge. So you have that element. You have

822
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: a veteran fifth year quarterback who is a gym rat

823
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: when it comes to preparation, Like this kid is a

824
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm not putting the Tom Brady label on him, but

825
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: manning Tom Brady type. He's at the facility preparing on Sunday.

826
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: They just won by forty to get yesterday. He's on Sunday,

827
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: He's there for eight hours looking at the next game.

828
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: They give him a test on Monday. Brady would give

829
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: him a test on Monday because he got so much

830
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: information into into his mind on Sunday. And so that's

831
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: the that's the first kind of step of getting ready

832
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: for Mississippi State or whoever they're playing is is Monday.

833
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 1: He's there. He's like a coach. He was a coach

834
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: that played quarterback in his fifth year. He knew the

835
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: answers to every question. And and when you throw in

836
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: his ability to work full field progression, he's just boom boom,

837
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: boom boom. And and I don't care if you're a man,

838
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: you're showing man, you're going to quarters whatever you do.

839
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,479
Speaker 1: This guy was like, oh, you might give me once,

840
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna get you the next time. I think, Burrow,

841
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: you're right, he's not a guy that wows people, um

842
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: with the arms that the NFL has. But if he

843
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: gets if I were drafting him, if the Bengals draft him,

844
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: it would be crazy not to look and to evaluate

845
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: and study, Like, you can't draft him without bringing that

846
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: system correct to your team. You know, don't think, oh,

847
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: you know he'll adjust to our system. No, no, no, no,

848
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: Now go bring that system with or not. Find somebody

849
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: that does with him, um and and let him turn

850
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: him loose, because that that kid in that system is

851
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: as good as there is, you know, college or pro.

852
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: I've never seen a guy with this um killer instinct

853
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: of wanting to not just beat you, but like steal

854
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: your soul from you, like he wants to God. He

855
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: wants to ruin everything about you and the defensive coordinator

856
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: like he takes it so personally. Um, the battle that

857
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: week's battle against whoever it is, and all guys are competitive,

858
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: all guys want to win. But this guy borderline, like arrogant,

859
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: borderline like, man, were you okay as a kid? Like

860
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: like like a mean dude in a good one. If

861
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: he's your quarterback, it's great, But he's gonna ruffle some

862
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: feathers in the NFL if he keeps playing and with

863
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 1: that attitude with success, we're gonna wanna see him hit

864
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: if you're playing against him. I personally love it because

865
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: I kind of like that that he plays with. But um,

866
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: i'd be interesting to see how that flies in the NFL. Yeah, Buck,

867
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 1: You know, when you get a chance to talk with folks,

868
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: it's it's sometimes you know, there's disagreement on this and that,

869
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: and you argue and you debate. I don't think there's

870
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: any debate, and I think Herb Street the way he

871
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: mentioned it, I don't know that we've seen a season

872
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: quite like this one UM that he just had. And

873
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: I joked, I mean, I'm trying to find bad games. Crap,

874
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find bad drives and bad series with

875
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: with the way he played last year, he was phenomenal.

876
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: We talked about it, we talked about they're not being

877
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: another college quarterback that has played better in a single

878
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: season than Joe Burrow. And I think it's one of

879
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: those things where you just have to respect the guy

880
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: because after a while you want to say, oh, is

881
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: the one year one and he's just hot. But when

882
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: you do it over the um the time that he

883
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: did against the teams that he did it, you have

884
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: to give him his respect for for playing at a

885
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: high level and thinking that he can sustain that level.

886
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: It's surrounded about the right UH teammates to write environment

887
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: and so very very impressive. One of the more impressive

888
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: seasons that I've ever seen, I agree. UH. One of

889
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: the most respected names when it comes to quarterbacks is

890
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: Jordan Palmer. And for those who don't know Jordan Palmer,

891
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer's brother Jordan's had a long career as a

892
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: backup in the National Football League, but is now transitioned

893
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: into training some of the top quarterbacks in the NFL.

894
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm talking about guys. He's worked with guys like DeShawn Watson,

895
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: uh the recent guys like uh Sam Donald and Josh Allen.

896
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: He's worked with Patrick Mahomes, He's He's worked with all

897
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: kinds of quarterbacks over the last I'd say five to

898
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: seven years, and he's now has been spending a lot

899
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: of time training and working with Joe Burrow. So it

900
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: was great when you had a chance to catch up

901
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: with Jordan's and get his take on Joe Burrow. You

902
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: talked about Joe Barrow coming and being a part of

903
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: your QB summit last summer, connecting with him, and look,

904
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: he has a magic carpet ride, one that you predicted

905
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: because you called the show when you came on our

906
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: program in September. So I want you to listen to

907
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: this clip and then react to it coming off of you.

908
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: The guy that I'm fired up on, I think is

909
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: gonna have a massive years. Joe Burr O at l

910
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: s U. This dude has horses in the huddle, with him.

911
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: He's got a favorable schedule. This was one of the

912
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: top recruits went to a House States. The only reason, well,

913
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: the story of him leaving the House States he got

914
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: hurt and Dwayne Haskins, the greatest quarterback in the House

915
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: State history, came in and replaced him. Okay, So this

916
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: guy he's gonna bounce around, got beat out by strubs. Okay. Um,

917
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: he started off struggled the first part of last year,

918
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: and they got their rhythm on offense. The last second

919
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: half of the year they rolled, and some time within

920
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: this offseason I was blown away by them in person.

921
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: His dad's been a defensive coordinator in college football D

922
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: one for over a dozen years. He knows more than

923
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: the average guy at his age um and from and

924
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: it's a senior year. From a confident standpoint, if this

925
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: guy thinks they can win the national championship, and I

926
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: believe him. So, I actually think Joe Burrow is an

927
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: interesting guy to watch. It had a big statistical day

928
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: the other day, but it's early in the season. Um,

929
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: but man, he's got an opportunity this week versus in

930
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: Texas long lunch. Yeah, I think with with Joe, the

931
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: riding was on the wall for me. Now, as I mentioned,

932
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: I haven't known this kids since he was little. Um.

933
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: But my eye goes to two things. And now I

934
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: get a different vantage point than the typical scout who

935
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: just gets to watch tape. Um. But my eye goes

936
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: to two things. When you're talking about picking players at

937
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: the top of the draft, not finding diamonds in the rough,

938
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: and you're talking about the top guys and you're trying

939
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: to sort through the top four to four or five guys,

940
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: my eye goes to two things. It goes one to confidence.

941
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: I believe there's two types of confidence. There's reactionary confidence,

942
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: where if everything's going awesome, I believe in myself, and

943
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: if everything's going terrible, I start to wonder if everyone

944
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: else is right right. The second part of confidence, uh,

945
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: the second type of confidence is self generated confidence. So

946
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: the environment and what's happening around me is completely irrelevant.

947
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: I'm generating my own confidence and I believe what I

948
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: believe about myself. The next layer of that is unwavering

949
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 1: self generated confidence, where I believe those things about myself,

950
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: but it also does not matter what happens. I'm not

951
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm not budging an inch on this um, Joe, out

952
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: of all the guys I've been around, it's probably the

953
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: most confident, however you want to score it, probably the

954
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: most confident guy've been around. The second thing that I

955
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: I goes to is just maturity. It's really simple. We

956
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 1: want to sit here and measure hands and forty times

957
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: and bench presses, and we're gonna create new drills tomorrow

958
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: for the combine. But the reality is is if you

959
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 1: can look under the hood and really determine how mature

960
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,959
Speaker 1: they are, the and the case in point is because

961
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: you'd say, well, how do you know Joe so mature?

962
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: His life did not change in the last twelve months.

963
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: It changed in the last three because here's the deal.

964
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: He was somewhat irrelevant. He's the quarterback at l s U.

965
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: But it wasn't. It wasn't when Joe Burrow, right, it's

966
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: pandemonium where we're out here in Orange County, literally across

967
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: across the country, people freaking out when they see Joe Burrow.

968
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: It wouldn't like that the whole season he got it.

969
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: He just got his masters, so he was going from

970
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: the dorm room to the facility every day. He didn't

971
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: even get a chance to experience all the crazy stuff

972
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: that was going on and how big it was getting

973
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: really until he got to the playoffs and the media

974
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: stuff hit and the National Championship and Heisman and all

975
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 1: that stuff. So really all of this is it's newer

976
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: than everyone thinks. So when I say that he's as

977
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: mature as a way I've been around this st age,

978
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: look at how he's handled it. He didn't buy into it.

979
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: He didn't. He hasn't gone off and changed a ton.

980
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: He's just taken in what's happened, what's been happening around him,

981
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: focused on the results of what's of what's in front

982
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: of him, and he just rolled for fifteen weeks. You know,

983
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 1: it is unique that a guy who um I guess

984
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: shows up at l s U the beginning of camp

985
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: his junior season, his very shot junior season, has a

986
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: season that is up and down, kind of resets, recalibrates

987
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: out to going through a spring ball in the summing,

988
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: gets with you in the summer, shows back up fall camp,

989
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: and then absolutely smashes it one of the best seasons

990
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: that we've ever seen a quarterback half in college football history.

991
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: UM the old scout of me is trying to figure

992
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: out what pop and what clicked. You've talked about the maturity,

993
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: but from your advantage point on the outside in what

994
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: clicked for him that final season that enabled him to

995
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: have the performance that he had. Well, I think he's

996
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 1: definitely not putting words in his I think he's regarded

997
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: himself as this type of player for a while now.

998
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he stumbled upon this. You don't. You

999
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: don't luck into that year, right, It's it's not like

1000
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: he threw a ball for grabs every play and they

1001
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 1: score touchdowns. That's not what happened. I think that he's

1002
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: believed this about himself for a while. You know, L

1003
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: s U not this past season. The season I think

1004
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: they lead to inns, double and drops. Could be wrong

1005
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: on that, but if they weren't, they were like second

1006
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: and drops right. And so being the kind of program

1007
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: franchise changer guy that he is, he's a catalyst type leader. Um.

1008
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: They did a lot of different receiver drills and a

1009
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: lot he instead of just complaining about it or wanting

1010
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: new guys, he raised the level of play. These are

1011
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: the same we all talked about. He's the same two

1012
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 1: and three star guys. Who were all they got sixteen

1013
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: guys here, right. But on the offense, I think he

1014
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: believes certain things about the guys in the huddle, and

1015
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: he elevated their play um. But if you look at

1016
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,479
Speaker 1: the tape from eighteen, there's drops and there's balls thrown

1017
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: on the money, and it just it didn't click right.

1018
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: It just it just I think he weathered the storm

1019
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: mature and didn't freak out. Uh. The first half of

1020
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: the season was a lot uglier than the second half

1021
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: of the season. That's when I started to kind of

1022
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: see the momentum shift. And when you heard him talk

1023
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: about his guys when I mentioned on the podcast in

1024
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: September how he had horses in the huddle, those were

1025
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: his words. Those weren't mine. I didn't I didn't know

1026
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: anyth about L. S u Um And so they just

1027
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: believed that they had they had all the pieces. And

1028
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: really at L. S u I mean, it's it's it's

1029
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: always been. If they have a quarterback, they're gonna be great.

1030
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: If they don't, they're gonna be, you know, middle of

1031
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: the packer above the middle of the pack. If it

1032
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: to bring you into a team and let you do

1033
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: to praise presentation on here's why Joe Burrow would be

1034
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: great for your franchise. How would you respond? Um, I

1035
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: would say he has a proven track record of dealing

1036
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: with adversity. Well, so you and I've talked about this,

1037
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: That's one of the things that I go to. It

1038
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: can be from a tough childhood, it can be from

1039
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: an injury, it could be from family issues, or it

1040
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: could be from feeling like you're better than the guy

1041
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: that they said he's going to start not you. For whatever,

1042
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: the reason was cool and so how you what you

1043
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: do with that? That's where I kind of my eyes goes,

1044
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: all right, so what are you gonna do now? Right?

1045
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: Sam Donald? This year Mono, the Monday Night Debacle, that

1046
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: was our conversations, All right, how are this is a

1047
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: rap at handling adversity? How are you going to get

1048
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: really good at handling adversity? Removed the motion from what's

1049
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 1: actually happening? This is a rat cool and came back

1050
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: and finished strong. So with Joe, I would say that

1051
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 1: this guy handles adversity well. The whole House State thing.

1052
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: He turned lemons into lemonade like we've never seen before,

1053
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: like sixty of them, right, and the other thing is

1054
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: that he did it not by running around and making plays.

1055
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 1: He did it by buying into a system and getting

1056
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 1: others to buy in. If you're if you're picking high

1057
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 1: in the draft and you're trying to flip your franchise around,

1058
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't get the strongest arm in NFL history. I

1059
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't get the fastest receiver in the combine history. I

1060
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: get somebody who can buy in, get others to buy in,

1061
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: and is ready for adversity. You know, DJ. The great

1062
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: thing about Jordan Palmer's Jordan Palmer has been around these

1063
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Speaker 1: elite quarterbacks the last few years, and um, he has

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Speaker 1: a studious wrong when he talks about woman. He called

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Speaker 1: his shot when he came on the program UH early

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Speaker 1: in the season and talked about Joe Burrow being a

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Speaker 1: breakout star and to continue to work with him and

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Speaker 1: to shed light on the intangible qualities, the intelligence and

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Speaker 1: competitiveness and just how he gets it at a higher level. Um,

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Speaker 1: I just can see why there's so many coaches around

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Speaker 1: the league that have fallen in love with Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: particularly after talking to him. All right, Bacca, now our

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Speaker 1: very own Colleen Wolf and Andrew Hawkins doing great work

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Speaker 1: at the combine, they got a chance to catch up

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Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow himself. Um, and it was a very

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Speaker 1: fascinating conversation touching on some interesting topics. Here's that chat

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Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow put into perspective this past season for you. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: there were so many highs. I mean, just just tell

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Speaker 1: us kind of how that was for you. Yeah. The

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Speaker 1: crazy thing is, we kind of knew it was gonna happen,

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Speaker 1: you know, we were when we talked about the National

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Speaker 1: Championship being in New Orleans. We talked about back in

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Speaker 1: February when we wanted not if we were going to

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Speaker 1: be there, Like we would talk about it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a nenworance when we win, it's gonna be crazy after

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Speaker 1: the game, like stuff like that. So you knew even

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Speaker 1: before the season started that this is going to be

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Speaker 1: the outcome back in February March. We knew the work

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Speaker 1: we were gonna put in, We knew the kind of

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Speaker 1: players we have, we knew the coaches we have. So

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Speaker 1: football is obviously a big part of your d n A,

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Speaker 1: your family. I mean, your dad was a defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: at Ohio University. Brothers played at Nebraska. Did you ever

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Speaker 1: have a different dream other than the NFL whatever. I

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00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: wanted to be a basketball player first from Cushman sophomore

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Speaker 1: junior year of high school. I thought I was gonna

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Speaker 1: be a basketball player. Um and then all the all

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Speaker 1: the football offers started coming in, so I chose football instead.

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Speaker 1: Did you get recruited for basketball? I could have played both.

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Speaker 1: That A couple of schools that were recruiting me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they said I could play both. The comparisons right now?

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Speaker 1: Are you and Tom Brady? Your response to that? Please,

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Speaker 1: don't please, don't compare me to the best player all

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Speaker 1: all right, let me do my own thing. Don't do

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Speaker 1: that to me. Please. It's high praise though it is

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Speaker 1: it is, but it's Tom Brady. Oh buck, I guess

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Speaker 1: I love listening to Burrow there, even though he does

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Speaker 1: not like he It is not like being compared to

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Speaker 1: the greatest of all time. Understandable. Uh, talking about my

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Speaker 1: comparison with him and Tom Brady, I'm not saying he

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Speaker 1: is Tom Brady. I'm just saying when you watch him

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Speaker 1: and you see him mechanically, how similar they look and

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Speaker 1: their strengths line up. Now, the difference is being Tom

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Speaker 1: much stronger arm. Joe's a better athlete, but you know, look,

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Speaker 1: I would want to be compared to the greatest of

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Speaker 1: all time in my field either, So I I get

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Speaker 1: where by Joe Barrow doesn't like that. Yeah, I get

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Speaker 1: it it doesn't like that. But there's something about the

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Speaker 1: competitor in him that I'm sure kind of respects that.

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Speaker 1: I think when we think about Tom Brady being the

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Speaker 1: ultimate competitor, how he's been able to wild his team

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Speaker 1: to say super Bowl wins, I think Joe Burrow would

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Speaker 1: love to be in that conversation. And even though they're

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Speaker 1: not necessarily the same stylistically, um, I do believe their heart,

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Speaker 1: the competitiveness is kind of of the same, uh mindset.

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Speaker 1: I think they kind of come from they come from

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Speaker 1: the same cloth, and I could definitely see why those

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Speaker 1: comparisons would be about. It's been fun to visit with

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Speaker 1: all these different folks about Joe Burrow. I think we

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Speaker 1: kind of as we are coming to a close here, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I just when I watch him and I kind of

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Speaker 1: see it the same way that her streets sought. In

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Speaker 1: terms of if if you draft Joe Burrow, and we've

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Speaker 1: talked about this, you need to make sure you put

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Speaker 1: him in us in a scheme and a position that

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Speaker 1: he was in last year. You're gonna be in a

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Speaker 1: position when you get lots of guys out end of

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Speaker 1: the route, guys that can uncover um, and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to see the whole field, make good decisions

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Speaker 1: and distribute the ball accurately. I hope that's what happens.

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Speaker 1: I hope that where every lance looks like Cincinnati, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna do what they did at L. S U.

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Speaker 1: And they're gonna get everybody out in the route and

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Speaker 1: let this guy carve people up. Looks what he's done

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Speaker 1: from from high school, he's had the opportunity to when

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Speaker 1: you spread it and shred it and put it in

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Speaker 1: his hands, he understands how to get it done. We've

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Speaker 1: talked about the basketball background allowing him basically to play

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Speaker 1: fast break football from the pocket. That's what Joe Burrow does.

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Speaker 1: And so if there's a team that's out there that's

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Speaker 1: willing to give him the opportunity to get the ball

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Speaker 1: in his hands and to put him with playmakers that

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Speaker 1: can run u ob would a run to court, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna have success. And so we'll see how it translates

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Speaker 1: to the National Football League. But man, he checks off

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Speaker 1: all of the box and when it comes to being

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Speaker 1: a franchise boy, Bron, Yeah, he's a very good player.

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Speaker 1: And again you're getting an ultimate competitor. I hope that

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Speaker 1: picture has been painted throughout this episode today. I do

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Speaker 1: want to thank all of our guests and there were

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Speaker 1: a bunch of them for joining us on the show.

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Speaker 1: I want to give a special shout out to David Singer,

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Speaker 1: our booker, who was able to corral all these different

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Speaker 1: people for us. We do appreciate that our Junah Nabil

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Speaker 1: Mark doing a wonderful job helping us get this out

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Speaker 1: to you guys. And you can check out all of

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Speaker 1: our videos on NFL dot com slash mts video and

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Speaker 1: I should add also you can check out the video

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Speaker 1: version of this show Burrow episode where you can see

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Speaker 1: these interviews uh and get a chance to see some

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Speaker 1: of the video we've been discussing. You can find that

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Speaker 1: on the YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash NFL Podcasts

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Speaker 1: and be on the lookout for the twa Tonga Voloa

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Speaker 1: episode that is on the way that's coming on sixteenth,

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Speaker 1: So just right around the corner. You can be on

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Speaker 1: the lookout for that as well. All right, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for us. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Daniel Jeremiah.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to move the sticks.