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Speaker 1: My name is Mandy Hasson. I'm the host, Editor in

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Speaker 1: chief CEO of ZETEO. I'm joined for this election dialogue

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Speaker 1: on subseect. Finally at eight fifteen. We are fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: late to talk about the most important topic in America.

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Speaker 1: Tells you everything by the one only Steve Schmidt from

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Speaker 1: the warning on Substact, former GOP strategist, White House strategist,

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Speaker 1: never trumper. Steve, how are you feeling about this election?

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Speaker 1: It's eight fifteen. We were supposed to start at eight.

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Speaker 1: Everything in life is stressful right.

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Speaker 2: Now, everything is stressful. We're a little bit behind. But

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Speaker 2: thank you everybody out there for for joining. You know,

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Speaker 2: when we you know, we talked about doing this. We

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Speaker 2: what we decided we're going to talk about was fascism

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Speaker 2: and and this threat. Talk about it as a fascist threat.

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Speaker 2: Talk about the media that hasn't called this out for

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Speaker 2: what it is. So it was private. Daniel almost that

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Speaker 2: that the news today is. John Kelly, the former Marine,

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Speaker 2: four star General of House Chief of Staff, comes out,

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Speaker 2: there's audio recordings and he makes it clear to a

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Speaker 2: man who knows history, knows something of the world, knows

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Speaker 2: something of the wars of the twentieth century, and he says,

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Speaker 2: the guy I worked for as chief of staff is

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Speaker 2: an autocrat, is a fascist who doesn't believe in democracy.

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Speaker 3: It's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very big deal, but you might not

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Speaker 1: believe it from the front pages of the national newspapers

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Speaker 1: today because I believe it didn't really make the top

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Speaker 1: headline on any front page in America, which tells you everything.

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Speaker 1: About nine years in our media is still very broken.

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Speaker 1: It's the reason I went and set up my own

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Speaker 1: media company. When I launched the Teo Steve, people said

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Speaker 1: why a you're doing your own media company, And I

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Speaker 1: said two reasons. Number one and it's probably one you

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Speaker 1: disagree with me on and we could have another conversation

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Speaker 1: about this is the genocide in Gaza. And number two

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Speaker 1: is the fascist threat here in America. People don't use

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Speaker 1: the G word genocide, they don't use the F word fascism.

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Speaker 1: And in August twenty twenty, Steve I did my first

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Speaker 1: ever show on MSNBC. I guest hosted for Chris Hayes,

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Speaker 1: and it was just after Portland and the George Floyd riots,

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Speaker 1: and I said this is fascism, And I used the

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Speaker 1: F word that night, and people thought I was being hysterical.

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Speaker 1: People said, this is Trump derangement syndrome. He's not a fascist.

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Speaker 1: Stop misusing words. This is hyperbole. And yet here we

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Speaker 1: are four years later, four years later, and as you say,

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Speaker 1: marine general, former chief of Staff John Kelly saying he's

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Speaker 1: a fascist. Not just John Kelly, Mark Millie, former chairman

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Speaker 1: his term, says he is a fascist. To the core right,

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Speaker 1: this is what's going on, right, two American generals, not Democrats,

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Speaker 1: story in America? Steve? Why is it not on every

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Speaker 2: I don't have an answer for that other than that

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Speaker 2: all of these news organizations or corporate owned, and that

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Speaker 2: at a corporate level, there's a tremendous amount of fear.

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Speaker 2: Uh from a litigation perspective, which is a false fear

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Speaker 2: the lawyers are in the room, or from a UH

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Speaker 2: from a retaliation perspective. You know, if you're if you're

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Speaker 2: the CEO of Comcast, you have a lot of equities,

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Speaker 2: uh for your business that involve license issues with the FCC.

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Speaker 2: MSNBC is a very small piece right of your your

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Speaker 2: You're really a negligible piece of your of your bottom line.

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Speaker 2: So are you going to allow an outspoken host to

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Speaker 2: He's going to try to take some punitive action. He

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Speaker 2: it is, very quickly, fear is attendant with fascism, right,

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Speaker 2: it's it's hand and glove. And so you have reporters

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Speaker 2: I thought one of the most remarkable stories this month

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Speaker 2: Twenty twelve, and he's talking about I can't protect my

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Speaker 2: collective punishment. It is, it is, it is extraordinary, and

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Speaker 1: Loads of you are leaving comments. There's far too many

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Speaker 1: Penny Howell says, did I miss anything? No, you didn't.

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Speaker 1: There are people out there, Steve, on the left and

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Speaker 1: Trump himself keeps going on Fox, Steve, have you seen

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Speaker 1: these clips on Fox where Fox hosts say, you didn't

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Speaker 1: really mean to threaten all those people, right, because I did?

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Speaker 1: Yeah I did. They try and walk him off the ledge.

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Speaker 2: We gotta punishm're.

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Speaker 1: Even Fox is like trying to downplay this ship. And

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Speaker 1: I think it'll be the first time someone took over

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Speaker 1: me again in four years. I mean, you're saying it

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Speaker 3: Exactly nobody.

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Speaker 2: Every person who's ever taken political power, riding to power

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Speaker 2: I've called them for a fascist along time, for a

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Speaker 2: I understand what fascism is, and it was the right

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Speaker 2: One of the things that I thought was extraordinary four

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Speaker 2: There's an old saying, you know that every cause becomes

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Speaker 3: As opposed to the cause.

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Speaker 3: Calling me a pedophile.

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Speaker 2: And so the revenge right that is directed at a person,

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Speaker 1: Trump called Mark Esper and said, why can't you shoot them?

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Speaker 1: Shoot them in the legs. Esper said, we can't do that, sir.

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Speaker 1: Next time around, it will be Defense Secretary Michael Flynn

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Speaker 1: or Cash Pattel who says, yes, sir, whatever you say, sir.

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Speaker 1: So when people say, well, you know, Steve, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you get the slot. People say, don't be silly. We

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Speaker 1: already had Trump for four years. He didn't do anything

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Speaker 1: crazy in the first term. He tried, right, We know

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Speaker 1: he tried because the people around him say. But people

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Speaker 1: around him say he tried. The thing is, we had

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Speaker 1: a few guardrails, a few adults in the room. His

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Speaker 1: administration will have no adults in the room next time.

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Speaker 1: It will have literal children like Cashptel, who writes children's

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Speaker 1: stories about Trump. It will have a Supreme Court who

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Speaker 1: are his and have told him he has immunity, will

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Speaker 1: have a Republican Senate, as you say, not led by

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Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell, and it will have a maybe if he

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Speaker 1: gets a Republican House, Steve, it's a trifectors. It's game over.

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Speaker 1: There are no checks or balances. This is a guy,

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Speaker 1: by the way, can you imagine going from Attorney General

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Speaker 1: Merrit Garland who dragged his feet for four years to

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Speaker 1: the age who Trump will put in a Mike Davis

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Speaker 1: type or even crazy Judge Judine from Fox, who's going

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Speaker 1: to go from day one, after Biden and Obama and

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Speaker 1: Harris and Cheney and maybe me and you and everyone else. Right,

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Speaker 1: there's going to be you know, the projection is intense.

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Speaker 1: All the things they've accused Democrats of weaponizing power, deep state, conspiracy,

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Speaker 1: witch hunt, all of that is what they're planning to do. Right,

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Speaker 1: Every accusation is a confession for the right. So you

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Speaker 1: know that everything they accuse the Democrats of is basically

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Speaker 1: what they have planned. And I think again people don't recognize.

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Speaker 1: I have a very wealthy, very intelligent, very educated liberal

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Speaker 1: friend who told me recently, maybe the bureaucracy will stop him,

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Speaker 1: the courts will stop him. That complacency, I believe, is

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Speaker 1: the greatest gift the Trump campaign could ever expect from

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Speaker 1: the liberal left in this country. The idea that you know,

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Speaker 1: this back to the famous it couldn't happen here America.

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Speaker 1: We're unique, We can't go fascist. This is what happens

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Speaker 1: in Banana republics and broken Eastern Upian countries. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: as the immigrant American here, stop being so fucking naval gazing.

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Speaker 1: And you know, arrogant that America is somehow immune from

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Speaker 1: historical global geopolitical trent. It is not. And the Constitution,

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Speaker 1: as great as it is in many ways, was not

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Speaker 1: designed with a Donald Trump in mind. That is very clear.

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Speaker 2: No, there's a great book that I just finished reading.

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Speaker 2: It's called A Village in the Third Reich, and it's

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Speaker 2: the story about the southernmost.

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Speaker 3: Town in Germany.

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Speaker 2: It's a ski town and it's the story from nineteen

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Speaker 2: seventeen to nineteen fifty six, and it's the tale of

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Speaker 2: what happens when fascism comes to your town and let's

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Speaker 2: just say it changed it forever, as it will in

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Speaker 2: the United States. Trump is going to have a rally

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Speaker 2: at Madison Square guard which was the site very famously

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Speaker 2: of the Boons gathering.

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Speaker 3: There's a documentary called The Knight at the Garden. But

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Speaker 3: you have the.

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Speaker 2: George Washington banners that were flanking the stage that night,

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Speaker 2: festooned with swastikas, and that event that night in nineteen

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Speaker 2: thirty nine was billed as a patriotic evening, right, And

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Speaker 2: there's an apocryphal quote, I think it was it was

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Speaker 2: attributed apocrypully to Sinclair Lewis. But when fascism comes to America,

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Speaker 2: it'll be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.

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Speaker 2: And we're certainly, we're certainly seeing that, we're certainly seeing

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Speaker 2: that play out. If Trump loses, right, if he loses

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Speaker 2: on election night, you know, we'll hear from him like

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Speaker 2: last time, before midnight, and they'll have an indication. The

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Speaker 2: way this works is you'll you'll have a really strong

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Speaker 2: sense on the campaigns. I'll know you'll know very very

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Speaker 2: early in the evening you know which way it's breaking.

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Speaker 3: Everyone in the news rooms is going to know.

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Speaker 2: They're going to be extremely cautious, right, very slow on

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Speaker 2: calling the states. But but there's a momentum to this.

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Speaker 2: There is no real fraud in American elections. These are

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Speaker 2: the cleanest, fairest elections in the world. Trump will go

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Speaker 2: out sometime if he's losing on election night and start

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Speaker 2: to see the ground that the election was.

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Speaker 1: Which is what he did last time. If you remember,

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Speaker 1: do you.

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Speaker 2: Think this time right, that it's an all in proposition

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Speaker 2: everybody crosses the river again, like we're doing this again,

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Speaker 2: or do you think there's a chance and what do

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Speaker 2: you rate the chance that it just deflates that people

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Speaker 2: just say, you know what, we're not. We're not now,

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Speaker 2: you know, like a Lindsey Graham, right, who you no,

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Speaker 2: I wish I don't want anyone to think I'm putting

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Speaker 2: any eggs in the no.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could be in team deflation, but I'm not.

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Speaker 1: And I think we've depressed a bunch of folks in

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Speaker 1: the comments. I don't know if you're reading the comment, Steve.

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Speaker 1: We're getting a lot of love from folks, so I'm

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Speaker 1: just going to pass on people saying nice things. Although

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Speaker 1: a couple of people pointed out that I wore a

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Speaker 1: light shirt and now they can't read the comments, so

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Speaker 1: I should have want a dark shirt. Note to myself

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Speaker 1: for a future substle. We now have over thirteen hundred

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Speaker 1: people watching, so thank you for joining us tonight. Look,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to depress everyone in the comments. Andrew

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Speaker 1: in the comment to ask me if I know any

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Speaker 1: nice English women that he can go get married to

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Speaker 1: and move to the UK. Good luck, Andrew, good luck.

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Speaker 1: Jessica says keep drinking. I'm Muslim, Jessica, I can't even

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Speaker 1: drink away my sorrows. Look, I'm going to be more depressing,

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Speaker 1: and I have to be because I have to be

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Speaker 1: honest with you. I think Trump is going to definitely

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Speaker 1: on the night come out and say we've won. He's

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Speaker 1: going to do the whole red miss bullshit, which is

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Speaker 1: we're in the lead tonight on the counting of votes.

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Speaker 1: Don't let them in the morning show that I'm behind.

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Speaker 1: It's all rigged, even though we know that Republican legislators

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Speaker 1: in places that pennsylvani don't allow the votes to be

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Speaker 1: counted when they come in mailand ballots. Just remind everyone

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Speaker 1: of that. You'll hear a lot of bullshit online from

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Speaker 1: people like cat turd saying why can't we count all

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Speaker 1: the votes on the day because Republican legislatures blocked us

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Speaker 1: from doing that. Funnily enough, in Florida, they actually do

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Speaker 1: allow you to count Maylee ballots from the moment you

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Speaker 1: get them, so they actually count quite fast in Republican Florida,

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Speaker 1: but not in the swing states where the Pennsylvania legislation

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Speaker 1: and others have stopped that. So we're going to have

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Speaker 1: Trump do that. He's this time, unlike last time, He's

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Speaker 1: going to have Vance a his side, Unlike Pence. Vance

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Speaker 1: is going to be backing him up, doing the media rounds,

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Speaker 1: pushing this bullshit. By the way, Steve, doesn't it infuriate

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Speaker 1: you that when Vance goes on all these Sunday shows

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Speaker 1: and is asked, you wouldn't have certified the election on

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Speaker 1: January sixth, twenty twenty one, He goes, no, Pence had

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Speaker 1: the power to stop it. He should have stopped it.

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Speaker 1: Why doesn't a single anchor say to Vance if that's

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Speaker 1: the case on January sixth, twenty twenty five, does current

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Speaker 1: Vice President Krmena Harris have the power to throw out

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Speaker 1: a Trump victory and declare herself president? No one asked

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Speaker 1: that question, because if the Vice press has the power,

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Speaker 1: then surely Carbla Harris can decide whatever the fuck she

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Speaker 1: wants on January sixth, twenty twenty five. Anyway, that's an

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Speaker 1: aside to go back to your point.

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Speaker 2: I so I think you're a really smart guy, right,

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Speaker 2: and I think you asked great questions.

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Speaker 3: But you don't have to.

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Speaker 2: Be Albert Einstein to figure out that question, right.

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Speaker 3: If you're if you're doing this right, yeah, that is,

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Speaker 3: that is, if you sit around for five.

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Speaker 2: Minutes, yep, and you're like, I'm gonna ask questions that

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Speaker 2: challenge the inherent contradictions because it's all yes, nonsense, it's

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Speaker 2: all nonsense.

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Speaker 1: Yes. The simple answer to your question is, the people

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Speaker 1: who do these interviews are trained to do them in

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Speaker 1: a certain way. They're not ready for events. They're not

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Speaker 1: ready for the nihilism. They're not ready for the gas lighting,

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Speaker 1: they're not ready for the dish galloping. They come from

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Speaker 1: a world where they're just culturally and socially not ready

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Speaker 1: for the freaks who go on Sunday shows from MAGA

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Speaker 1: and get in their face and lie all day long.

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Speaker 1: They just don't have the tools for it. To go

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Speaker 1: about something you said earlier, media has not adapted over

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Speaker 1: nine years in well somehow, you know, you now see

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Speaker 1: George Sephanopolist a bit more push back than he did before,

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Speaker 1: but they still haven't adapted to how you deal with

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Speaker 1: the people who come on air and just say up

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Speaker 1: is down, black is white, hot as cold. To go

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Speaker 1: back to your point about the election night, I've just

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Speaker 1: got to make an important point here. I think he

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Speaker 1: will do what he did in twenty twenty, and this

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Speaker 1: time round he will have way more support than he

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Speaker 1: had in twenty twenty because he spent four years building

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Speaker 1: to this moment. The Republican body is ready to fall

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Speaker 1: in line behind him. The few dissenters that were there

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty are no longer there right, they've quit

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Speaker 1: the party. They've left the scene. They have no credibility.

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Speaker 1: The party is more fearful of him. To go back

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Speaker 1: to our earlier conversation about standing up to him. His

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Speaker 1: base are way angrier than they were last time. They're

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Speaker 1: full of rage and paranoia that they were robbed in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. We will not be robbed again. And don't

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Speaker 1: forget you know, his his great you know, his trump

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Speaker 1: card for Trump is this time he controls the world's

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Speaker 1: biggest social media platform, the most influential one in terms

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Speaker 1: of politics, and that is Twitter. Right, last time round,

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Speaker 1: January sixth happened and Zuckerberg suspended him and Dorsey and

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Speaker 1: Twitter suspended him. This time round, Zuckerberg's running for the hills.

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Speaker 1: He's already rolled over. And Musk is one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: on team Trump. Wants a government job, is spending millions

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Speaker 1: of dollars, is living in Pennsylvania, so God help us. All,

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Speaker 1: you know, we think about Ruby Freeman and Shae Moss,

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Speaker 1: the two election workers from Georgia who had to go

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Speaker 1: into hiding because of the death threats they got from

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Speaker 1: false allegations about suitcases of votes. They just won a

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Speaker 1: case against Giuliani again the other night. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Juliani said on election night, a drunk Giuliani told Trump,

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Speaker 1: go out and declare victory right now. If you remember

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Speaker 1: so you look at Shae Mors and Ruby Freeman, It'll

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Speaker 1: be Shae Moss and Ruby Freeman times one hundred, Steve.

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Speaker 1: It'll be all over Twitter, it'll be all over social media,

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Speaker 1: fake stories out of Wisconsin, out of Pennsylvania, at a

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Speaker 1: Georgia which will be amplified by the world's richest man

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Speaker 1: to two hundred million people, with no community notes, no corrections.

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Speaker 1: So we're in a very different place to twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: The media may be slightly more aware of what's going

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Speaker 1: on than they were in twenty twenty, but you've got

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Speaker 1: social media in chaos, you've got musksing chaos, and you've

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Speaker 1: got a much angrier group of people who are going

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Speaker 1: to be way more violent. January sixth is going to

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Speaker 1: look like a walk in the park converted to what

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Speaker 1: these guys are going to incite this time around. The

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Speaker 1: idea that Donald Trump will concede to a black woman

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Speaker 1: is the stupidest, dumbest thing I've ever heard. He will not,

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Speaker 1: So what happened. As I say, there are is going

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Speaker 1: to be much more violent than the last time. I

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Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna wait to a January sixth. We're

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Speaker 1: already seeing domestic tourry. Let me give you one example.

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Speaker 1: As private citizen Donald Trump, he shut down the entire

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Speaker 1: town of Springfield, Ohio, shut down the schools, shut down

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Speaker 1: the town hall, thirty odd bomb threats, the Haitian community

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Speaker 1: in fear, kids at school, in fear, officials, Republican officials

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Speaker 1: in the town saying what the hell have you done?

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Speaker 1: That is the power of Donald Trump as a private citizen.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine Donald Trump as a wanna be president

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Speaker 1: elect or president? Can you imagine him post election in

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Speaker 1: citing hate against a town or an election worker or

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Speaker 1: election supervisor in some county of America. I think he's

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Speaker 1: going in. It's his last chance to avoid prison, it's

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Speaker 1: his last chance to be president. And as I say,

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Speaker 1: his ego does not allow him to accept that he

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Speaker 1: was beaten by a black woman who he thinks he

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Speaker 1: uses the you know, all sorts of words for her

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Speaker 1: in private and public. He will not accept the fee.

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Speaker 1: And I think this time around, Yeah, the levels of

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Speaker 1: violence and violence threats, I'm sorry to say, will be

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Speaker 1: much worse. America is primed for much more violence than

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Speaker 1: it was in twenty twenty or twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 3: So so like, I'll so I agree with you. So,

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Speaker 3: but I.

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Speaker 2: Just at a basic personal level philosophy of life, everybody,

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Speaker 2: and it's good if this happens at a younger age

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Speaker 2: needs to hear.

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Speaker 3: The word no.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Trump has never heard the word no. It's never it's

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Speaker 2: never stuck, no one, no one has told him no

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Speaker 2: in nine years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What I think is one of the most amazing aspects

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Speaker 2: of this whole period is bredbear.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: When you when you go back and full stop and

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Speaker 2: this doesn't get enough. He fraid to report news to

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Speaker 2: the audience.

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Speaker 3: Yep. Right, So I'm just like take that a face value.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to like curtail my emotions on it, right,

681
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Speaker 2: my detestation of it, and say, Okay, yeah, you're you

682
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Speaker 2: whipped these people up so much you literally can't report

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Speaker 2: the news to them. But just pushing on, right, You're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to report the news to them, right, there's

685
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Speaker 2: no avoidance of reality.

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Speaker 3: Right, So the news.

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Speaker 1: I think you're being generous to fuck Steve I think

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Speaker 1: you're being generous to Fox. They can avoid reporting the news.

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Speaker 1: They're very good enough if the.

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Speaker 2: If the news is she wins, right, she's she's been

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Speaker 2: elected president.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but don't forget Steph. In this country, we have

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Speaker 1: this weird system which is weird. I'm not agreeing with

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Speaker 1: the right here. It's something that's gone back decades. It's

695
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Speaker 1: not a right or left point, but we have a

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Speaker 1: system where we don't have a federal election system. We

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Speaker 1: don't have a common standard of elections. Unlike in other countries,

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Speaker 1: there are not independent third party people who decide this stuff.

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Speaker 1: And we have this weird situation where everyone just accepted

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Speaker 1: it until twenty twenty that the TV networks will decide

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Speaker 1: the election. And in twenty twenty, the Saturday after the

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Speaker 1: TV networks gave it to Biden. What if Fox doesn't

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Speaker 1: fall into line this time? Fox has always prided itself

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Speaker 1: on having that. I've forgotten his name. The guy Arnold,

705
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Speaker 1: whatever his name is, who calls the election death for that,

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Speaker 1: he's gone, right, And yeah, I don't know who's left there.

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Speaker 1: And we know that Trump is now calling Rupert Murdock directly.

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Speaker 1: We know that Lochlan Murdock is fully teamed Trump. We

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Speaker 1: know that the Brett Bears were scared last time, So yeah,

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Speaker 1: what if Fox says no, what if Twitter and Elon

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Speaker 1: Musk says no, what there's insufficient people to say. I

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Speaker 1: think you're I think you might be generously underplaying how

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Speaker 1: resistant tens of millions of people will be in this

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Speaker 1: country to reality.

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Speaker 2: So if you have this to my point, I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to get to you. So if you have the person

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Speaker 2: who wins lawfully, matter of reality, she went right. Regardless

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Speaker 2: of what Elon Musk says, right, whatever he.

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Speaker 1: Says on the Electoral College meets in December says.

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Speaker 2: Or what we have we have procrastinated on dealing with

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Speaker 2: the reckoning in this country.

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Speaker 3: So we're going to have to tell right, some number.

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Speaker 2: Of maybe tens of millions of people know the loser

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Speaker 2: can't be your furer and dictator of America because he

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Speaker 2: lost the election, and no right, and.

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Speaker 3: So we we are.

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Speaker 2: It seems to me on the edge now of this

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Speaker 2: crisis that there's no escaping from right. There's there is

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Speaker 2: there's a terrible, terrible existential crisis if he is elected president.

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Speaker 2: But there's a profound crisis if he loses, the reasons

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Speaker 2: win all amass.

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Speaker 1: This country's in a lot of trouble. And I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what, on nights like this, I think one man

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Speaker 1: I blame a great deal for it. Very nice man.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a great guy personally and has great intentions,

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Speaker 1: but he really f does is Merrick Garland. Because the

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Speaker 1: reason why so many people are able to go into

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Speaker 1: this election still saying bullshit about the last election is

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Speaker 1: because Donald Trump was not prosecuted for the last election.

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Speaker 1: We didn't get Jack Smith in court laying out in

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Speaker 1: meticulous detail every day to a jury of his peers

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Speaker 1: on nightly news all of the evidence that they have

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Speaker 1: on Donald Trump and his uncitement of instruction, and the

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Speaker 1: fact that he knew that he lost, and all the

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Speaker 1: lies that he told, and all the pressure he applied

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and all the violent threats and all

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Speaker 1: the fake electors schemes. The fact that we are going

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Speaker 1: into an election in thirteen days time, four years on

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Speaker 1: from an insurrection that the Republican Senate leader, the Republican

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Speaker 1: House leader all say Trump did, the fact that we

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Speaker 1: are going into selection and Donald Trump was not prosecuted

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Speaker 1: for anything in that The fact that we heard the

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Speaker 1: man on the phone say to the Republican Secretary State

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Speaker 1: of Georgia, find me eleven thousand votes, or your trial

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Speaker 1: didn't happen to me is one of the great derelictions

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Speaker 1: of duty by the political class, the judiciary, and to

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Speaker 1: many ways the media. And I think, I do think

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't have persuaded tens of millions of Maga folks

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Speaker 1: with a trial, but you certainly would have reminded people

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Speaker 1: of the stakes in the selection right, and that's all

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Speaker 1: we don't have right now.

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Speaker 3: You could not be more correct about it.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: Unspeakable and history is going to be extremely unkind to

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Speaker 2: Merrick Garland on it.

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Speaker 3: It is. It is inexplicable.

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Speaker 2: The entire country, its existent right, is dependent on this

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Speaker 2: peaceful transition of power. It's a wonder of the world.

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Speaker 2: It's the greatest invention in American history. George the third

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Speaker 2: was obsessed with what Washington would do, and he asked,

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Speaker 2: have an empire bigger, a kingdom larger. And when he

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Speaker 2: told the Washington was going to go home to Virginia,

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Speaker 2: he said that that would make him the greatest man

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Speaker 2: of that or any age. He could not comprehend it.

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Speaker 2: You look at the painting by Turnbull in the Capitol

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Speaker 2: of Washington. In an act of humility, bowing to the Congress,

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Speaker 2: He's laid his military cape over the large chair that

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Speaker 2: is the throne un sat In. The structure of our

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Speaker 2: society is entirely.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely dependent.

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Speaker 2: On elections, where the people decide who has limited power

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Speaker 2: lawfully for a period of time, in a system that

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Speaker 2: protects the end of vidual as supreme. And fascism is

784
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Speaker 2: the dogma that places the individual as a cog underneath

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Speaker 2: the state. It's exactly opposite of the of the American

786
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Speaker 2: of the American system. But what I've not been able

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Speaker 2: to understand over all these years is what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: There is no substitute for the cornerstone. You can't take

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Speaker 2: away elections and have someone imposed political control on the

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Speaker 2: country and allowed the United States to still exist.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't. The country stops.

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Speaker 1: It is, which is why, which is why we use

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Speaker 1: which is why we use the phrase existential threat to America.

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Speaker 1: It's about the existence, not just a threat to democracy.

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Speaker 1: It's an existential threat to democracy because Americans cannot continue

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Speaker 1: to exist as we know it if Trump is in

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Speaker 1: power destroy the Constitution. Staying on, I just say a

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Speaker 1: few things about the transition of power. Number One, Richard

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Speaker 1: Nixon famously loses to John F. Kennedy in the dodgiest

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Speaker 1: of ways. I think it's fair to say Nixon is

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Speaker 1: the sitting vice president. We also about Mike Pence and

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Speaker 1: the power Mike Pence says, Richard Nixon stands and says,

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Speaker 1: transition of power is what makes America great. He says

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Speaker 1: this in the Senate in January whatever it was, and

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00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: hands over Powell. Right, al Gore, we know in two

806
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Speaker 1: thousand Beaten, I would say, illegitimately by your former boss.

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Speaker 1: But Stell says, you know what America is, what America's about,

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Speaker 1: And now you have this Trump and Vance saying, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, pens can overturn the election, but Karmala Harris can't.

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Speaker 1: And it is it is a real start warning that

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Speaker 1: even Richard Nixon had more integrity and more understanding of

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Speaker 1: American politics and democracy than Donald J. Trump. And you know,

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Speaker 1: the failure to prosecute Trump, like the failure to prosecute Nixon,

814
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Speaker 1: is what led us here. And you know you said

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Speaker 1: history will judge Merrick Garland our commenters. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you're reading in the comments, they're judging Meeric Garlan

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Speaker 1: pretty harshly. Right now, William Burke says, do we have

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Speaker 1: any evidence that Merrick Garland is even still alive? Which

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Speaker 1: I think is a fair question. In fact, by the way,

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Speaker 1: on Garland, Steve, I don't know if you saw. They've

821
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Speaker 1: just sent the DOJ a very stern letter to Elon

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Speaker 1: Musk saying if you're buying votes that's against the law.

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Speaker 1: You might go to prison for five years. That's it.

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Speaker 1: No investigation, no threat of procution, just a very stern letter.

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Speaker 1: You know what the Democrats are best at in life,

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Speaker 1: Very sternly worded letters. That's what they bring.

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Speaker 3: You know, you bring up.

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Speaker 1: They don't bring a knife to a gunfight. They bring

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Speaker 1: a sternly worded letter to a bazooka fight with fascists

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Speaker 1: out like Musk and Trump and just on on the

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Speaker 1: transition of power. I want to say something to some

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Speaker 1: of the leftists and some of the Muslims I know

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Speaker 1: who are in this chat, who I've been talking with

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Speaker 1: a lot in recent weeks, and there's real trauma on

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Speaker 1: the left and in Muslim and Arab communities as to

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Speaker 1: who to choose between Harris and Trump, And I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of people on this call with it. Don't

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Speaker 1: be crazy. Of course Trump is worse, but for a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, there's a lot of hurt and pain.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people in Michigan have lost ten, twenty

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Speaker 1: thirty family members in Gaza. They say, we can't vote

842
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Speaker 1: for some who's arming this, who's complicit in this. And

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Speaker 1: one thing I would say is you don't have to

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Speaker 1: be pro Harris or pro Deems to understand the threat

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Speaker 1: from Trump. The way I've been seeing this election is

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Speaker 1: who do you want to organize under? Who do you

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Speaker 1: want to be able to resist under? Who do you

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Speaker 1: want to be able to protest under? Even if you

849
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: hate the Democrats and hate Harris and hate Biden, the

850
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: reality is that next year, if you want a campaign

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Speaker 1: for labor rights, or climate or the Middle East Gaza,

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Speaker 1: you're going to be able to do it under a

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Speaker 1: Biden or Harris. Are you going to be able to

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Speaker 1: do under a Trump who says shoot protesters in the legs,

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Speaker 1: who says if you protest for Gaza and you're a

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Speaker 1: foreign student, I'm going to say you're a hamas and

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Speaker 1: deport you from our country. That is not a world

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Speaker 1: that I as someone who is anti big government, anti

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Speaker 1: oppressive government, anti our foreign policy, even if I don't

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Speaker 1: like the president, even if I disagree with Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1: on all of her foreign policies, I'll have a more freedom.

862
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Speaker 1: And this is the argument I make to speak out

863
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Speaker 1: and say what I want to say under a normal

864
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Speaker 1: presidency than under an abnormal presidency. And some folks, especially

865
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Speaker 1: in the communities, say to me, well, if we defeat Harris,

866
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Speaker 1: now we show our power and leverage and people will

867
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Speaker 1: take us more seriously. Come twenty twenty eight, and left

868
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Speaker 1: to say this to it. You know what I say, Steve,

869
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Speaker 1: I said, how do you know there'll be a free

870
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Speaker 1: and fair election in twenty twenty eight? And I know

871
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Speaker 1: some comments and people say, oh, you're being hyperbolic again,

872
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: you're exaggerating. Of course there will be an election in

873
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight. And I say, what in Donald Trump's

874
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Speaker 1: biography tells you that this man in twenty eight says,

875
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Speaker 1: all right, guys, it's been good, had some fun. I'm

876
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: going back to Mara Lago to play golf. I'm done

877
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: with all this politics stuff. In what world do you

878
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: see a Donald Trump leaving office just going yeah, I'm done,

879
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: see a later. People that he doesn't try and stay on,

880
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Speaker 1: that he doesn't try and install a family member or

881
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: a corrupt acolyte. This idea that there will be free

882
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Speaker 1: and fair elections in twenty twenty eight after four more

883
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Speaker 1: years of Republican Trump rule is delusional.

884
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Speaker 2: I'm with you because again right, nobody has heard the

885
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: word now. And so as you blow through these barriers,

886
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: these these norms, these traditions, when once you get to

887
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: the other side, any anything is possible. Here, I want

888
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Speaker 2: to make a point, a follow up on something that

889
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Speaker 2: you said. You know, I have a unique experience in life.

890
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Speaker 3: I was around two.

891
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Speaker 2: Presidential transitions late into the night as we were arranging

892
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Speaker 2: the concession for John Kerry to President Bush. But but

893
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Speaker 2: I was the person who placed the phone call from

894
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Speaker 2: John McCain to Barack Obama. I was the first person

895
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Speaker 2: in America who addressed Barack Obama and the Republican Party

896
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Speaker 2: as mister.

897
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Speaker 3: President eleve the phone.

898
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Speaker 2: And it was a it was an extraordinary moment to

899
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Speaker 2: play this small role at incepting this magic which is

900
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Speaker 2: the transfer of political power between generations, between political parties,

901
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: between opponents, peacefully directed by the sovereign will of the

902
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Speaker 2: of the people. And Donald Trump is the first president

903
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Speaker 2: who has taken a walk on it. And this is

904
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Speaker 2: this goes to the DNA of the country. Let me say,

905
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Speaker 2: you and I do do have disagreements on the war

906
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Speaker 2: in in Israel, in the Middle East. It's a complicated

907
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: issue spanning from Tehran to Gaza. I what I want

908
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Speaker 2: to say, without without getting into that debate on the election,

909
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 2: there is no group in this country that is more

910
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Speaker 2: vulnerable to a Trump administration than Muslim Americans who have

911
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Speaker 2: been treated who have been treated badly in the country

912
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Speaker 2: at times over the last twenty five years, going back

913
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Speaker 2: after nine to eleven, and all the people in that

914
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Speaker 2: community on this call. I don't need to explain that

915
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Speaker 2: to you. Donald Trump has a real animus for people

916
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Speaker 2: of color, for Blacks, for Muslims, and he's going to

917
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Speaker 2: act on that mouse And anybody who thinks that they

918
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Speaker 2: somehow are going to be safe from Trump, yeah, is

919
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Speaker 2: very very naive. Donald Trump doesn't care about abortion at all,

920
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Speaker 2: but the religious extremists who he cares about because he

921
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Speaker 2: wants their support, care deeply about it. And so the

922
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Speaker 2: big government that we're talking about tonight is the government

923
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Speaker 2: that's peeking in your bedroom window, that's journeying with you

924
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Speaker 2: from cradle to grave, that's policing your speech, that has

925
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Speaker 2: an opinion about your employment, that makes a call if

926
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Speaker 2: you're politically active, Hey, matty's a problem at your company.

927
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 2: Maybe he should lose his job because he said something

928
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Speaker 2: that made the congressman mad or the state senator mad

929
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Speaker 2: or whatever wherever. So this is a moment where the

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Speaker 2: core foundational element of what makes the country a free

931
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Speaker 2: place where you can come to the country as a

932
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Speaker 2: Muslim in worship or as a Jew, or as a Christian,

933
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Speaker 2: the rights and the freedoms, yes, foundational freedoms Trump disdains.

934
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Speaker 3: Yes, and the people that he has malice for.

935
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Speaker 2: Is to be very, very very cautious as you process

936
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Speaker 2: your decision about how to use this vote.

937
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Speaker 3: There is no perfect candidate. There is no candidate you will.

938
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Speaker 2: Agree with on every on every issue, and you can

939
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 2: passionately have one. A lot of Republicans in the country,

940
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Speaker 2: like myself, former Republicans who never got on board with Trump,

941
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Speaker 2: have a lot of disagreement with with with Kamala Harris

942
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Speaker 2: on a lot of issues, but none of that matters

943
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Speaker 2: because the only thing on the ballot is the foundations

944
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Speaker 2: of the country agree. But he is the first president

945
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Speaker 2: in history to openly communicate his intention to tear down No.

946
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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

947
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Speaker 1: And you know, if if the other if the candidate

948
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Speaker 1: on the other side, and I say this to people

949
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Speaker 1: who say we can't vote for Harris, I would say,

950
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Speaker 1: one hundred per the genocide is so bad. Unlet you.

951
00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: I don't think it's complicated. I think it is a

952
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: very moral issue. But I would say, if the other

953
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Speaker 1: candidate was George Bush Senior, let's say that's it right,

954
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Speaker 1: Let it happen, Let her lose. Democrats need to learn

955
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Speaker 1: a lesson. But the idea of losing to Donald Trump

956
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: is not about losing to a Republican. It is losing

957
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Speaker 1: to someone who, as you say, will be an existential

958
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Speaker 1: threat to all of our freedoms, freedoms of speech, assembly, protest.

959
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Speaker 1: That for me is fundamental right, because I cannot advocate

960
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Speaker 1: for the Palestinians, or for undocumented immigrants, or for any

961
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Speaker 1: cause that I care about if I don't have free speech,

962
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Speaker 1: if I don't have you know the rule of law.

963
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: If I don't have an independent judiciary. I mean, look

964
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Speaker 1: at Elon Musk, who just goes judge Shopping's got his

965
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: favorite judge in Texas. Look at Trump, who's got his

966
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: judge in Florida throwing out his case. That is Banana

967
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: Republic staff, right. This is American judiciary now. The American

968
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: judiciary now is a joke in the eyes of the

969
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: rest of the world, not just the Western world, but

970
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: you know, Asian countries, African countries have more independent, more

971
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: effective judiciaries than the United States judiciary right now, where

972
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: you could literally pick your own judges. So I think

973
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: that stuff for me is fundamental. Right. I run a

974
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Speaker 1: media company, I'm an immigrant, I'm a journalist, I'm a

975
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: big mouth with opinions. Right for me to carry on

976
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: existing as I exist, I need democracy to exist. And

977
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Speaker 1: this is why. And I know we're at nine oh

978
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Speaker 1: five and we've got sixteen hundred people watching, so we

979
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: appreciate you all tuning in tonight. But this is where

980
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: you know, this is where I really want to make

981
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: a point before you finish, which is for me, the

982
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: big failure of journalism is to treat this as an

983
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: abstract issue. To treat this as we're just bystanders with

984
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 1: a view from nowhere looking out on this race between

985
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: two horses, Carmala Harris and Donald Trump. Who's up and

986
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: who's down? Journalism cannot exist as we know it in

987
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: a Trump presidency. And by the way, people think I'm

988
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: being exaggerating again, go to Florida right now. Ron De

989
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: Santras's government is bullying TV channels into not running ads

990
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: for an anti abortion vote. Right. That is what's happening

991
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: in Florida right now. No one talks about it because

992
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: we're obsessed with free speech on campus, but not an

993
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: actual Republican government in Florida cracking down on the free press.

994
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: Journalism cannot exist under an authoritary reaching. And therefore, when

995
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: I see journalists act like disinterested observers, we're not biased.

996
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: I've said this for nine years. I'll say it again.

997
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: Journalists should have a bias, a bias towards democracy, not

998
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: big D democrats, small D democracy. We have skin in

999
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: the game, right. The fourth Estate cannot exist without independent judiciary,

1000
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: without free and fair elections, without a Congress that isn't

1001
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: just a rubber stamp for an autocrat in the Oval Office.

1002
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: And that is what I fundamentally will always criticize our

1003
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: media for. Is this inability to understand that we ourselves

1004
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: cannot exist if this guy gets his way.

1005
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: I one hundred percent. And I think one of the

1006
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: things to just add on to that is here we

1007
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: talked earlier about fascism, we talked about Hitler, and we

1008
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 2: talked about the Republican reactions.

1009
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Speaker 3: Just for a second, is.

1010
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: When you call the mag movement appropriately fascist, right, they's

1011
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: hate speech. You're trying to get Trump assassinated, and across

1012
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: the board, all of it, all of it is nonsense.

1013
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 2: Adolf Hitler in nineteen twenty three tried to overthrow the

1014
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: nation German democracy. He was sent to prison, He served

1015
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: the short term, and when he was released, the New

1016
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: York Times announced that he had retired from political extremism,

1017
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 2: and the New York Times right, and you know, we

1018
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 2: had we had nothing more to worry about.

1019
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: His book, My Struggle, My.

1020
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 2: Comp laid out very very clearly what is what his

1021
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: intentions were. It took nine years for Adolf Hitler to

1022
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: make that journey from the coup to the German Chancellor's office.

1023
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: It took him two years to become the furor. It

1024
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 2: took him seven years to start World War two, and

1025
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 2: it was three years after World War II started that

1026
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: there was a meeting in a Berlin suburb where the

1027
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 2: final solution was planned.

1028
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 3: It took a.

1029
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 2: Long time, almost twenty years, from the coup to the

1030
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: gates at Auschwitz opening. The journey is the lesson, and

1031
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: that's what matters here. Is Donald Trump going to open

1032
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: up an American Auschwitz?

1033
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: Of course not.

1034
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: However, we don't know where the story ends, just like

1035
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 2: the Germans didn't know where the story was going to

1036
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: end in nineteen thirty seven or nineteen thirty eight. It

1037
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: was going to get a lot worse. And so nine

1038
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 2: years and Donald Trump at this hour is even in

1039
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 2: the race after trying to overthrow the government, promising retribution,

1040
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 2: promising vengeance, utilizing rhetoric and hate. That is no different

1041
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: in anything that came out of the mouth of a

1042
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: striker or gobbles about Haitians eating cats and dogs, poisoning

1043
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: the blood of our country, racist fascist poisoning the blood

1044
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: of the country. And so so we're at a monumental

1045
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: moment in an American life. We are in a we

1046
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: are in a vital hour of our of our nation's

1047
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: existence with a monumental threat. That that that that that

1048
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 2: involves putting together a coalition that is very broad, that

1049
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 2: that includes a lot of people who disagree with each

1050
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: other on a lot of things, but have fierce agreement

1051
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 2: that we will defend each other's freedoms and rights completely.

1052
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: Because freedom means freedom for everybody, not just the privileged

1053
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 2: click that you may be part of. That's not how

1054
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 2: this country works. And so this is a monumental moment.

1055
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 2: I spend some time with some Republicans who disdain Trump,

1056
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 2: do not like Kamala Harris.

1057
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 3: They're not going to vote for Trump. I can't get

1058
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 3: them to.

1059
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 2: Vote for Kamala Harris. That's fine, good enough to stay home.

1060
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 2: Don't vote. Right, So, the Republicans in your life, if

1061
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 2: you're watching this right, if you can't make a vote

1062
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: for Harris and you can't make a vote for Trump,

1063
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 2: don't vote.

1064
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 3: Don't vote, Do not vote for Donald Trump.

1065
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, just to put a pin in

1066
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Speaker 1: all this. And by the way, there's about nearly seventeen

1067
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Speaker 1: hundred of you watching, So we thank you all. Louisa says,

1068
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Speaker 1: thank you Steven Mehdy for this conversation. We thank you

1069
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Speaker 1: for tuning in and listening to us. Scare the Bejesus

1070
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: out of all of you, but it has to be

1071
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: done because it's true. And I know some of you

1072
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: are saying in the chat you're going go off and

1073
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: have a very stiff drink after this. The Muslims on

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Speaker 1: this chat are going to go off and pray for

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Speaker 1: all of us. Let me end by saying this two things.

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Speaker 1: I often think we're in some crazy move. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If you saw the Daily Show this week John Stewart

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Speaker 1: talked about is this like the dream from Dallas? How

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Speaker 1: can this stuff be real? What we're going through? Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's all a nightmare that we wake up from. But

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you know, if it is a

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Speaker 1: TV show, if somebody's written this out like you know

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Speaker 1: that Jim Carrey movie. If we're all in the middle

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Speaker 1: of a TV show, you know, twenty years ago for

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Speaker 1: a start, I'll say two things. One is if the

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Speaker 1: writers of that show came to me twenty years ago

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Speaker 1: and said Mary, twenty years ago when I was marching

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Speaker 1: against the Iraq war, and said, in twenty years you

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Speaker 1: and a guy who works for George Bush will be

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Speaker 1: in one hundred percent agreement on the need to stop

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Speaker 1: the I from Home alone too. From a second term

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Speaker 1: in office, I'd have said, shut the fuck up, you're insane.

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Speaker 1: That's number one and number two. Number two. The writers

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Speaker 1: of this show are so insane that they sat in

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Speaker 1: the writer's room and they said, we're going to have

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Speaker 1: this autocrat run for office. We're going to have him

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Speaker 1: quote Hitler. We're going to have the left and liberals

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Speaker 1: say this guy's like Hitler. But the best part of

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Speaker 1: all is his running mate is going to be the

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Speaker 1: guy who warned the country that he could be America's Hitler.

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Speaker 1: That for me, is the greatest of all ironies. I

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Speaker 1: don't need John Kelly or Mark Billy to go back

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Speaker 1: to the beginning of this conversation to tell me how

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Speaker 1: dangous Donald Trump is. Donald Trump's running mate warned us

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Speaker 1: all that he could be America's Hitler. So we need

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Speaker 1: to I think resist America's Hitler come November the fifth.

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Speaker 1: That is my priority. I'll be doing that as Zeteo.

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Speaker 1: Steve will be doing that at the warning. Check out

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Speaker 1: the CNN's and the comcasts of this world when they

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Speaker 1: normalize fascism and when they, in Tim Snyder's words, obey

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Speaker 1: you do vote and get your friends and family to vote.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us tonight. Thank you, Steve. It's

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Speaker 1: been a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: and vote.

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Speaker 3: Good Night, good night,