WEBVTT - Training Camp Odds & Ends 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:07.320 The Around the NFL Podcast wants to continue into their forties. 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:10.640 Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.680 Podcast presented by New Era. My name is Dan Hansers, 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:16.959 and I'm joined by room filled with heroes. I'm already 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:21.320 in their forties, Mark Sessler, Colleen Wolf and Greg Girls 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:29.480 at all? What's up? Team? Don't appreciate that opener at all? 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:31.639 What is what is it like being in your forties? 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.760 Not there yet? Don't know? Oh so it's Mark? I okay, Yeah, 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:38.480 it's also West going at Colleen in a big spot. 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:40.599 Yeah right away? Why I don't have any makeup on? 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.040 So are you taking a job at that? I was 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:47.480 going for the surprise pick. Yeah, Mark, Marks the old guy. 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:49.600 You are especially no West not playing it? You know, 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:51.720 are playing any role in this little bit that you 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:56.040 guys have unraveled. This is the Monday edition of the 0:00:56.040 --> 0:01:01.760 Around the NFL Podcast presented by New Era. Um. You know, 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:08.200 we have so much to unpack today, including um all 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:09.959 the news from around the league. I think did the 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:13.600 Lions finally report to camp? Are they? Are they practicing yet? 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:19.600 They're considering Greg? You know this stuff? I believe they 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:24.640 showed up on the first day legally allowed, and yet 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.160 you continue at this point. I wouldn't have been surprised 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.760 in the line to show up Week one Sunday, like 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:31.520 an hour before kickoff. They all just put on their 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.080 uniforms for the first time. Let's go get it. It's 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:35.480 not a good look for that team. And I don't 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:39.560 care about the rules like Area Area man rages against 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:43.080 you can't practice until two weeks before your first preseason 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:46.320 game rule. I said my piece. If you really want 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:48.720 to take that next step as a franchise, one playoff 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.520 win in you know, sixty years, go find a park 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.840 in Auburn Hills, throw the ball around a couple of 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:56.440 wins prints on your own time when you own time 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:01.160 very much with you. Do you feel really strongly about this? Yeah? 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:06.000 I also feel strongly um about talking about your weekend, Colleen, 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:10.119 which we're gonna get to wonderful um. Colleen was at 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:14.560 Raiders camp for Inside Training Camp live on NFL Network 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.960 and had a interaction with one of the league's most 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:21.600 famous players that went viral about that for a tease. 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:25.720 Are you comfortable talking about it? Yeah, let's do it. 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:30.160 Everybody else's so we tend to. We had the issue 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.120 with Miko Grimes and Greg, and Greg shut it down. 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:35.239 He said, we still talked about no flies On, said, 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.480 we're still talking. Yeah, yeah, you said you said no 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.239 flies on. We spent like fifteen minutes on it. You 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.880 also did an entire segment on the NFL's Greatest Feuds 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:45.760 the day after it happened, when I wasn't here. It was, 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.360 but we remember the Clapp act dis track we had 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.079 planned for Little Debbie where she was gonna go at 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.360 Miko Grimes. Uh, and we we pulled that. We yanked 0:02:56.360 --> 0:03:00.280 that out of respect you act together. I don't know 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.400 what Colleen's you know, feeling about her interaction was, but 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:06.760 it was sort of the opposite of Miko Grimes, you know, 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:11.359 the inverse of Mico grab. Anyway, we'll get to that 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:14.800 and UH and then we will will open up the 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:19.280 mail bag that gives us our opportunity to UH interface 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.440 with the listeners. Is that what you call it? Now? 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:26.240 So vital the listenership and and grievy I haven't forgotten. 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:29.160 We are going to hand out a prize to the 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:33.840 five thousand UH subreddit subscriber. Now we're heading towards six thousand. 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.760 I understand that incredible urgency around this prize hand out. 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.160 But I'm waiting for Mark to kind of come with 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.240 me with a spark of an idea of how what 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:45.600 to give them. So that's really Unmark. So I'm just 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.520 learning this now. So the planning behind this entire thing 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.040 is really suspect um. All right, So a lot to 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.480 talk to you. And of course, I mean it took 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:54.880 so long to get to it, but we are the 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.360 We are the softball C plus champions of the Los 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:02.840 Angeles Recreation League. Once again. I couldn't have done it 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.800 without me. It was a really tough season. I'm just 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:07.120 glad to be a part of it. And you're going 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:10.520 to show up as a fan at least for the championship. Yeah, 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:13.640 there were whispers about that that Mark was there in 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:15.640 the dugout. I mean, he's not just a fan, he's 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.920 part of that. Mark did a great job his role 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.560 special advisor once again, College This is kind of a 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.520 kind of a common Colleen trope when you text there 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:28.640 sometimes what I'm gonna I did have dinner that night 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:34.320 and I didn't even end up going. Let's see, once 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.800 I'm at my house, it's hard for me to leave 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:42.200 another excellent excuse were to sit there. I can't find it. 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:45.320 H the unfortunate auto correct. I won't bring that up. 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:49.360 Why that's no, come on, you have to did I? Yes, 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:50.960 I I don't know. It was a fantastic yeah, I 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:55.200 wrote related to the Marshall Lynch stuff. I wrote. I 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.599 wanted to write Connie Fox moving up in the world. 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:05.560 It auto corrected to tiny box. I can't believe Connie 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:10.040 Fox auto grex to tiny box. Well, you know, these 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.719 things happen anyway. We won the We won the title. 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:16.200 We slept the playoffs for the second straight year, defeating 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.520 UH first the Nooners fourteen nine and the second and 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.040 then the Flying Sheep who had beaten us seventeen to 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.200 one seven days earlier. We beat them nineteen nine in 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.600 the finals. It goes to show you, It goes to 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:31.400 show you what can happen when we have our full 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:35.080 compliment of players, Greg and uh and and I want 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:36.880 to throw to you because you are a champion now. 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.880 It feels good. I you know, I know I wasn't 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.600 the most important part of the team, but I would 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:44.800 have felt if we had if you guys had one 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.200 the year before and then you had lost when I 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.240 was on the thing. I would have felt like I 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.880 was responsible and I missed out and that that didn't happen. 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.680 And uh, you know, almost got a little emotional at 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:00.840 the end of the game. Dan the game ball to 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:07.160 Chris Westling who West had a heroic performance, uh, you know, 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:12.320 fighting through the big sea, of course, certainly sapped of energy, 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.560 took himself out of the second game, was ching in 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:19.280 the first game, but played outstanding and was a huge 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.080 reason why we went three for four, I believe in 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.800 the first game. Yeah, and he's still like he's still 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.279 working his way back physically from that game. Just to 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.719 give you an idea of uh West and well part 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:33.200 of how insane West is for sports and competitiveness, but 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.719 also you know what a badass West is. Uh. His 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.279 paramour was not happy with him for the decision to 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.719 try to run and take the extra basis, but try 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:43.719 to talk West out anything. By the end of it, 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:45.920 d Yeah, and by the end of it he was 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:50.280 just lying on the grass after the game to recuperate. 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:53.039 But he was also thrilled. I think that I honestly 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:56.720 I missed last year's due to some childcare scenario that 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:00.080 pulled me. I could not watch the game just you 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:06.119 were your stock is down right now. This meant at 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.760 this really to watch this because I remember during the 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:12.040 second game thinking like there was a moment where I 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.600 thought the things were turning negatively for the team, and 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.560 that you guys, it seemed like maybe it was had 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.200 come to its end. And it's like everyone, no one, 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.440 there was no negativity, just like this is going to happen. 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:23.880 And Greg stepped in, right, Rosy stepped in with his 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:28.200 positive throughout the relentlessly positive. It was amazing to watch. 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.040 And I mean, I you guys, you it's such a 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.080 weird team because when you were good during the season, 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.080 you were so good, and there were a couple of 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:38.680 games where it just looks like an epic disaster. We 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:42.280 were we were Sometimes we looked like the Niners. Sometimes 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.760 it looked like the O eight Lions. And then you know, 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:46.600 it was just who was going to show up? And 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.880 the right team showed up on Thursday and and I 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:50.600 and I know a lot of people saw it on Twitter. 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.760 I tweeted out a photo of the cleats dangling from 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:57.760 the wire. Um, it's just you know, it's a time 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.480 of reflection, Like I said, win or lose. I have 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:04.680 a lot to think about, and um wait till that 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:09.440 you have tired, you're retiring. I didn't want to make 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:12.520 anything officially yet, but think about who initially made that 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.160 put that image out there on Twitter, and that person 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:17.120 is right back in the mix, right, he was right 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.120 in the news that day. So I was confused whether 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.480 you were making a statement about softball or whether you 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.440 were pointing out Marshawn Lynch or what was going on. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.640 A lot of layers there, a lot of layers, because 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.560 because I want to know, you know before you sign on, 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:34.720 because your your deals up right, I'm looking for more 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:38.679 money next the disease of more anyway, So it was great. 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:40.480 It was a great, great night. And we're gonna have 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:44.600 a big celebration party at Sessler manor uh this upcoming weekend. 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:48.360 So really, I didn't I didn't know that we talked 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:52.800 about it. Well, you have no there's literally no confidence 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:57.040 that you'll show up, that you will. Uh, let's up, silly, 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:02.760 let's up, guys. Congrats on the repeat, build kicking tails. Thanks. 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:11.960 Let's do some news. You're fired fired? How about that? 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.839 A little bit of political news. A lot stuff going 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:18.079 on on in the old d C. Yes there is 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:21.400 timely Sullio's. Hey, I mean it's like people in and out. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:26.000 It's a revolving door up there. Oh all right, let's 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:29.840 start talking about football. Uh, welcome everyone. The fast forward 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.079 at the first eight minutes of the show. Uh, now 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:35.480 we talk football, and actually we're gonna start somewhere special. Uh. 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.360 It seems like we start there a lot these days, 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.240 some would say too much. At least one Twitter user 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:45.880 pointed that out to me. Let's go to the Ravens nest. Okay, now, 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.320 maybe the Ravens are in trouble, but they have not 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.880 signed Colin Kaepernick yet. Now we know the story. Flacco 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:01.520 has got a back injury. Uh. And Ian Mallett um 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.360 through five interceptions the other day and practice could have 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:07.400 been seven. Are you kidding me? What are we doing? 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:13.040 Tarrell sucks openly mocking Uh. Mr Mallett guy doesn't even 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:16.400 know how to set an iPhone alarm. As we learn 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.960 from hard Knocks, He's gonna be completing passes regularly for 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:23.079 an NFL team. Let's calm down. So the Ravens have 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:26.240 a quarterback problem, but they hadn't signed Kaepernick yet. But 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:29.760 it's still on the radar, and this is interesting, Greg, 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.320 this is very interesting. Speaking at a fan forum on Sunday, 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.520 Ravens president Dick Cass said the team has had direct 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:41.719 discussions with Colin Kaepernick that according to the Baltimore Son, UH, 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.920 Kaepernick wants to play. The Ravens are interested. There's no doubt. 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:49.559 They've been very open about that, but nothing has been decided. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.760 Mike Silver reported on Saturday that Kaepernick would be excited 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:56.000 to join the Ravens but has had zero discussions with 0:10:56.040 --> 0:11:01.319 the team. Here's UH team owner, Ravens owner um Steve Ashatti, 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.880 who was at that fan for him and Kaepernick was 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.880 a hot button topic, and he was explaining why this 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.760 is gonna be a polarizing decision no matter what. When 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:15.960 I fired uh Billick nine years ago, UH, it sounded 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.520 like half the It sounded like the people in Baltimore 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.400 wanted me to fire him until I fired him, and 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:25.320 then I found that thought I was an idiot. So 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.520 he got to be careful about the vocal minority. They 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.880 have a tendency to seem to, you know, sound be 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:35.839 a bigger group than they are. So I'm i'm we're 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.840 very sensitive to it, and we're monitoring it and we're 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.000 we're still, as as he says, scrimmaging it, and we're 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.280 trying to figure out what's what's the right tact and 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:50.640 so um, pray for us, Pray for us. Greg what well, 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:55.520 I think he was trying to be funny, but no, 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.240 really yeah, because I think there was laughter, and I 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.400 like he was taking it lightly. And if you read 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.120 all the quotes that he says, you know that the 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:05.959 weird thing was when he asked about a fan bell, 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:09.040 are you concerned about hurting the brand? And I'm like, 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.320 this guy isn't. Colin Kaepernick hasn't committed any crime, the 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:16.960 whole work shopping it with the fans, and Basati saying 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.440 that he talked to Ray Lewis about it on Sunday 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:23.560 morning to get his feel and and Ozzie Newsome says, 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.400 they're scrimmaging it and they're talking and all of it 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:30.120 speaks to the to me that the Ravens coaching staff 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.120 has made their decision they want to sign Colin Kaepernick, 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:36.679 because why would you be doing all of this nonsense 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:42.760 of you know, politicking and surveying unless you had already 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.120 basically decided this guy can improve our team, and that's 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.840 why I think he's gonna be signed. So this is 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.240 we're just picking up the story midway through, and I 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.280 think in a week or whatever it is, we're gonna 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.640 be talking about the impact that he makes on that. 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:56.720 I think you're I think you're right. I think they 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.760 that enough people inside that organization have talked to Colin 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.600 cow Bernick and feel that, you know, from from the 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.720 aspect of the person, there's no real blockage to bringing 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.360 them in. But it shows you because we all agree 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.520 that there's not a black ball situation going on here. 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.040 But it does show you that for some reason, well 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:17.520 for obvious reasons, that the Kaepernick experience it gives pause 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.840 to various people within the building beyond the coaching staff, 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:24.240 and that other teams have probably had these conversations that 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:27.560 we will never know about and decided no. All we 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:31.160 ever hear about is this is a business and teams 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:34.600 are making business decisions. Make a decision here and stop 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:36.440 just talking about it and asking people if it's going 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:38.400 to hurt their feelings and what they think about it. 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.760 You're supposed to be the decision makers. You're sitting in 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.320 the most powerful seats. Just do it. I mean, you don't. 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.920 You didn't. You don't see teams doing this with other 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:49.719 players who have far worse things that they've done. I mean, 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:53.000 you have uh, Joe Banner, who used to be the 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.000 Eagles GM talking about how the Eagles didn't ask fans 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.880 about what they thought when before they signed Michael Vick 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.000 after the dog fighting thing and after he got out 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.360 of prison, Like this is sort of ridiculous, I think, 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.079 especially when you have Ryan Mallett who's having a complete 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:10.200 meltdown in practice and your starting quarterback is hurt, you're 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:13.880 signing random camp are arms from indoor football leagues, like, 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.120 get it together and just sign him. Isn't the problem 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.559 that it happened that this there were no fan fest. 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:20.960 It was a bad day to have the pre scheduled 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.160 fan for him, right, I mean, he wouldn't have been 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:24.960 on record saying any of this stuff and they would 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:29.520 have gone about their and I think the public waffling, well, 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:31.920 it seems a little silly to me as well. But 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.400 I think maybe it's their internal decision to try to 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.880 get the temperature of the fan base before making the decision, 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.440 just in case it's atomic in the other direction, and 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.600 they don't want to deal and they're overly sensitive if 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:45.600 if if they are, because they just tell with the 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.040 Ray Rice thing, I mean, this was an organization that 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.360 does not want to get find themselves and snared in 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.360 something else that's you know, bigger than the team. And 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:57.000 those are the only situations where ownership gets involved. Usually 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.800 is something like a Ray Rice. And that's why it's 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:04.440 weird from the outside conflating these two domestic violence or 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:09.320 serious crimes. And the guy, as Bashati said, uh, doing 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.160 something that is his right, non violent protesting something we 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.800 should be embracing. He said that too. He said he 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.680 didn't like it necessarily and he liked it better when 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:20.680 he was kneeling, but we should be embracing it. It's all. 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:22.720 It's all very strange to me, and I think we're 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:24.800 about When he said this guy is a great guy. 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:26.920 I've spoken to him multiple times now, I kind of 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:30.040 read that as that was a little bit of public 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:33.680 pressure of kind of pushing it to the ownership, like, Hey, 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:35.520 I like this guy. I'm gonna start putting this out 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.200 there that it's a good guy. You know what else 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.000 Ravens fans won't like is if Joe Flacco mrs extended 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.480 time and Ryan Mallett is throwing five picks in games 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:47.960 that matter. I mean, that was maybe a little bunch 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:52.000 of burner blowtorch spot right there. I wouldn't be surprised. 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:54.880 My cat. Maybe it catches this nest on fire and 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:56.760 it just burns to the ground. With all that being 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.160 enough of the nest. With all this being said, this 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.720 happened sometimes with veteran quarterbacks where you don't sign him 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.360 till midway through camp, where you give a long lease 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.080 to the guy who's been there, like Ryan Mallett, and 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.280 you don't even end up letting Mallett compete in the 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:14.640 end that you're giving him kind of a rope, and 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.680 when they decide to make the move, maybe it's just 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:20.120 mallets out Kaepernicks in. Let's move on and talk about 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:24.360 the Jacksonville Jaguars who need a left tackle or really 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.160 need the people in the house to step up and 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:30.760 do the job, because uh, Brandon Albert is retiring. About 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:34.160 that uh strange offseason story here. Albert traded by the 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.560 Dolphins to the Jaguars. He skipped off season workouts, wanted 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:41.040 a new deal, uh, and instead he releases a statement 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:42.960 on Monday saying that he is shutting it down and 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.360 thanks to jackson the organization and uh colle and this 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:50.360 is this leaves Jacksonville with a pretty huge hole on 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.480 their offensive line. Is they try to get things right, Yeah, 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.720 they're gonna have to really look into their rookie now 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:57.680 and hope that he can step up and make that jump. 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.600 Cam Robinson, thank god that they drafted him so early, 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.240 because it looked like there was going to be some 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:06.600 some battles there as to how the whole offensive line 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:09.280 was going to shake out. And Doug Moroney obviously wants 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.640 all of his best blockers on the field. So if 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:16.040 Cam Robinson can make that jump, great, But otherwise, yeah, 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.480 you're gonna have a hole there for an offense that 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.960 needs to take that step behind in front of a 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.560 quarterback that also had a meltdown the other day. And 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:25.719 think about this, if you remember the draft class and 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:27.520 the lead up to and everything, this was not a 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:31.919 good lineman draft class. So Cam Robinson, Uh, maybe he's 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.080 one of the first offensive lineman to come off the board, 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.520 but in a draft class that nobody was in love with. 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:38.240 Who knows if this guy can play at least who 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.280 knows if you could play immediately, you might have a 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.400 major issue here. I wouldn't be surprised that they pick 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.520 up someone before it's uh the month turns over plus 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.680 with Leonard Fournette there too, I mean they're gonna wanna 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:49.960 have some really good run blocking in there, so that's 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.639 gonna really make a difference. The same general manager drafted 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.600 Luke Jocal number two overall to play left tackle. So 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.119 Cam Robinson they have high hopes for, but he was 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.159 starting as a backup behind. Now are you is a 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.280 thirty four you know overall pick? There's no, there's no. 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.199 He was a stud at Bama, but he had some 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.320 shaky moments against Miles Garrett and Barnett as well. So 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:10.959 I mean that the jury is still out on came 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.920 Robintson for sure, and weird ending for Albert because this trade, 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.680 this this trade with the Dolphins where they're the jackal 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.280 was getting that draft late late round draft pick back 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.320 because of the way this thing played out. But I 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.760 do recognize occasionally, have you ever had a job, uh, 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:27.960 you know, maybe a lower level one that was painful, 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.080 and you occasionally you had the moment you walk into 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.159 work you say it's over. I'm leaving this job. You 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.040 can feel it. You can just feel it, and like 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:37.120 maybe some of these veterans, you're thirty two, you didn't. 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:38.800 This is not the situation you wanted to be in 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.159 at this point. You wanted more money, you couldn't get it. 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:43.119 You come to work, you're like three days into training 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.080 camp and you're like, I'm pulling the plug on this thing. 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:46.879 I'm gonna be on my couch two days. I want 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.280 to quit. On my first day of a job, I 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:53.080 was supposed to be a segment producer for a like 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:59.000 wacky out takes from from East Sports Perfect show, you know, 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.200 like where I chose like whacky out takes from from 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:06.560 people crashing their motorbikes or whatever. And I felt like 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.199 hollow inside and decided I was going to quit. On 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.280 my drive there. That morning, I had a job that 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:13.840 in Colorado, had to take a bus too. It was 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:15.240 I didn't know it was at tempt job. I didn't 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:16.280 know what it was till I got there. And it 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:19.560 was a flashlight a mini flashlight factory, and so you 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:22.440 had to use this like push down machine to make 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:25.400 these parts just part of the flashlight. And I thought 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:27.760 I was doing well, and it was for terrible p 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:30.159 I'm like making like I took me like hours to 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:32.560 make like sixteen of these things, and like this like 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:36.280 sixty year old, like retiree who's doing a part time 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:38.919 job next to me, has made like a hundred and eighty. 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.919 Like I'm getting destroyed by this, like sixties something year old. 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:44.280 I shouldn't. I don't. I don't think I'm even good 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.320 at this. I've got to get out of this job, 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.120 and I left. I guess we're sharing tales of short 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:53.720 term uh during college, you know, I didn't come home 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:56.879 and get a job situations and uh during summer break 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:00.480 and a friend told me, oh, Sloman Shield, this security 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:06.840 company was hiring cold caller home one and uh so 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:10.560 I went to this basically walked into this little um 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:13.639 office where it was just like banks of phones and 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:18.520 I had to cold call like elderly women, uh like 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:21.480 living alone and try to trick them into getting security systems. 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:23.560 And then also you get I remember getting told off 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:25.840 a couple of times because you're calling during dinner. And 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:27.360 at the end of day, I was like, I am 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:31.680 never doing this ever again, so I never showed up again. 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:34.159 And then I called like a week later, because I 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:36.840 was like, Daddy wants to get paid for that day, 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:38.760 and they're like, if you want that, you're gonna have 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.080 to come get it. So I drove there and I 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:43.239 knocked on the office of the woman they hired me, 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:45.520 and uh, and she just like handed me this thing 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:47.760 was like a thirty four dollar check and I was 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:53.240 just like, I don't care again. Money all right, I'm up. 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.879 I worked at a I was a secretary at a 0:20:56.920 --> 0:21:01.119 produce broker in Philadelphia, at like the yard where they 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.400 brought in all of the fruits and vegetables and everything. 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:08.560 And my boss sat behind me and would scream at 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:11.240 the top of his lungs for eight hours of people 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:13.640