Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast wants to continue into their forties.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL
Speaker 1: Podcast presented by New Era. My name is Dan Hansers,
Speaker 1: and I'm joined by room filled with heroes. I'm already
Speaker 1: in their forties, Mark Sessler, Colleen Wolf and Greg Girls
Speaker 1: at all? What's up? Team? Don't appreciate that opener at all?
Speaker 1: What is what is it like being in your forties?
Speaker 1: Not there yet? Don't know? Oh so it's Mark? I okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's also West going at Colleen in a big spot.
Speaker 1: Yeah right away? Why I don't have any makeup on?
Speaker 1: So are you taking a job at that? I was
Speaker 1: going for the surprise pick. Yeah, Mark, Marks the old guy.
Speaker 1: You are especially no West not playing it? You know,
Speaker 1: are playing any role in this little bit that you
Speaker 1: guys have unraveled. This is the Monday edition of the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast presented by New Era. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: we have so much to unpack today, including um all
Speaker 1: the news from around the league. I think did the
Speaker 1: Lions finally report to camp? Are they? Are they practicing yet?
Speaker 1: They're considering Greg? You know this stuff? I believe they
Speaker 1: showed up on the first day legally allowed, and yet
Speaker 1: you continue at this point. I wouldn't have been surprised
Speaker 1: in the line to show up Week one Sunday, like
Speaker 1: an hour before kickoff. They all just put on their
Speaker 1: uniforms for the first time. Let's go get it. It's
Speaker 1: not a good look for that team. And I don't
Speaker 1: care about the rules like Area Area man rages against
Speaker 1: you can't practice until two weeks before your first preseason
Speaker 1: game rule. I said my piece. If you really want
Speaker 1: to take that next step as a franchise, one playoff
Speaker 1: win in you know, sixty years, go find a park
Speaker 1: in Auburn Hills, throw the ball around a couple of
Speaker 1: wins prints on your own time when you own time
Speaker 1: very much with you. Do you feel really strongly about this? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I also feel strongly um about talking about your weekend, Colleen,
Speaker 1: which we're gonna get to wonderful um. Colleen was at
Speaker 1: Raiders camp for Inside Training Camp live on NFL Network
Speaker 1: and had a interaction with one of the league's most
Speaker 1: famous players that went viral about that for a tease.
Speaker 1: Are you comfortable talking about it? Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Everybody else's so we tend to. We had the issue
Speaker 1: with Miko Grimes and Greg, and Greg shut it down.
Speaker 1: He said, we still talked about no flies On, said,
Speaker 1: we're still talking. Yeah, yeah, you said you said no
Speaker 1: flies on. We spent like fifteen minutes on it. You
Speaker 1: also did an entire segment on the NFL's Greatest Feuds
Speaker 1: the day after it happened, when I wasn't here. It was,
Speaker 1: but we remember the Clapp act dis track we had
Speaker 1: planned for Little Debbie where she was gonna go at
Speaker 1: Miko Grimes. Uh, and we we pulled that. We yanked
Speaker 1: that out of respect you act together. I don't know
Speaker 1: what Colleen's you know, feeling about her interaction was, but
Speaker 1: it was sort of the opposite of Miko Grimes, you know,
Speaker 1: the inverse of Mico grab. Anyway, we'll get to that
Speaker 1: and UH and then we will will open up the
Speaker 1: mail bag that gives us our opportunity to UH interface
Speaker 1: with the listeners. Is that what you call it? Now?
Speaker 1: So vital the listenership and and grievy I haven't forgotten.
Speaker 1: We are going to hand out a prize to the
Speaker 1: five thousand UH subreddit subscriber. Now we're heading towards six thousand.
Speaker 1: I understand that incredible urgency around this prize hand out.
Speaker 1: But I'm waiting for Mark to kind of come with
Speaker 1: me with a spark of an idea of how what
Speaker 1: to give them. So that's really Unmark. So I'm just
Speaker 1: learning this now. So the planning behind this entire thing
Speaker 1: is really suspect um. All right, So a lot to
Speaker 1: talk to you. And of course, I mean it took
Speaker 1: so long to get to it, but we are the
Speaker 1: We are the softball C plus champions of the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Recreation League. Once again. I couldn't have done it
Speaker 1: without me. It was a really tough season. I'm just
Speaker 1: glad to be a part of it. And you're going
Speaker 1: to show up as a fan at least for the championship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there were whispers about that that Mark was there in
Speaker 1: the dugout. I mean, he's not just a fan, he's
Speaker 1: part of that. Mark did a great job his role
Speaker 1: special advisor once again, College This is kind of a
Speaker 1: kind of a common Colleen trope when you text there
Speaker 1: sometimes what I'm gonna I did have dinner that night
Speaker 1: and I didn't even end up going. Let's see, once
Speaker 1: I'm at my house, it's hard for me to leave
Speaker 1: another excellent excuse were to sit there. I can't find it.
Speaker 1: H the unfortunate auto correct. I won't bring that up.
Speaker 1: Why that's no, come on, you have to did I? Yes,
Speaker 1: I I don't know. It was a fantastic yeah, I
Speaker 1: wrote related to the Marshall Lynch stuff. I wrote. I
Speaker 1: wanted to write Connie Fox moving up in the world.
Speaker 1: It auto corrected to tiny box. I can't believe Connie
Speaker 1: Fox auto grex to tiny box. Well, you know, these
Speaker 1: things happen anyway. We won the We won the title.
Speaker 1: We slept the playoffs for the second straight year, defeating
Speaker 1: UH first the Nooners fourteen nine and the second and
Speaker 1: then the Flying Sheep who had beaten us seventeen to
Speaker 1: one seven days earlier. We beat them nineteen nine in
Speaker 1: the finals. It goes to show you, It goes to
Speaker 1: show you what can happen when we have our full
Speaker 1: compliment of players, Greg and uh and and I want
Speaker 1: to throw to you because you are a champion now.
Speaker 1: It feels good. I you know, I know I wasn't
Speaker 1: the most important part of the team, but I would
Speaker 1: have felt if we had if you guys had one
Speaker 1: the year before and then you had lost when I
Speaker 1: was on the thing. I would have felt like I
Speaker 1: was responsible and I missed out and that that didn't happen.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, almost got a little emotional at
Speaker 1: the end of the game. Dan the game ball to
Speaker 1: Chris Westling who West had a heroic performance, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: fighting through the big sea, of course, certainly sapped of energy,
Speaker 1: took himself out of the second game, was ching in
Speaker 1: the first game, but played outstanding and was a huge
Speaker 1: reason why we went three for four, I believe in
Speaker 1: the first game. Yeah, and he's still like he's still
Speaker 1: working his way back physically from that game. Just to
Speaker 1: give you an idea of uh West and well part
Speaker 1: of how insane West is for sports and competitiveness, but
Speaker 1: also you know what a badass West is. Uh. His
Speaker 1: paramour was not happy with him for the decision to
Speaker 1: try to run and take the extra basis, but try
Speaker 1: to talk West out anything. By the end of it,
Speaker 1: d Yeah, and by the end of it he was
Speaker 1: just lying on the grass after the game to recuperate.
Speaker 1: But he was also thrilled. I think that I honestly
Speaker 1: I missed last year's due to some childcare scenario that
Speaker 1: pulled me. I could not watch the game just you
Speaker 1: were your stock is down right now. This meant at
Speaker 1: this really to watch this because I remember during the
Speaker 1: second game thinking like there was a moment where I
Speaker 1: thought the things were turning negatively for the team, and
Speaker 1: that you guys, it seemed like maybe it was had
Speaker 1: come to its end. And it's like everyone, no one,
Speaker 1: there was no negativity, just like this is going to happen.
Speaker 1: And Greg stepped in, right, Rosy stepped in with his
Speaker 1: positive throughout the relentlessly positive. It was amazing to watch.
Speaker 1: And I mean, I you guys, you it's such a
Speaker 1: weird team because when you were good during the season,
Speaker 1: you were so good, and there were a couple of
Speaker 1: games where it just looks like an epic disaster. We
Speaker 1: were we were Sometimes we looked like the Niners. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it looked like the O eight Lions. And then you know,
Speaker 1: it was just who was going to show up? And
Speaker 1: the right team showed up on Thursday and and I
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people saw it on Twitter.
Speaker 1: I tweeted out a photo of the cleats dangling from
Speaker 1: the wire. Um, it's just you know, it's a time
Speaker 1: of reflection, Like I said, win or lose. I have
Speaker 1: a lot to think about, and um wait till that
Speaker 1: you have tired, you're retiring. I didn't want to make
Speaker 1: anything officially yet, but think about who initially made that
Speaker 1: put that image out there on Twitter, and that person
Speaker 1: is right back in the mix, right, he was right
Speaker 1: in the news that day. So I was confused whether
Speaker 1: you were making a statement about softball or whether you
Speaker 1: were pointing out Marshawn Lynch or what was going on.
Speaker 1: A lot of layers there, a lot of layers, because
Speaker 1: because I want to know, you know before you sign on,
Speaker 1: because your your deals up right, I'm looking for more
Speaker 1: money next the disease of more anyway, So it was great.
Speaker 1: It was a great, great night. And we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a big celebration party at Sessler manor uh this upcoming weekend.
Speaker 1: So really, I didn't I didn't know that we talked
Speaker 1: about it. Well, you have no there's literally no confidence
Speaker 1: that you'll show up, that you will. Uh, let's up, silly,
Speaker 1: let's up, guys. Congrats on the repeat, build kicking tails. Thanks.
Speaker 1: Let's do some news. You're fired fired? How about that?
Speaker 1: A little bit of political news. A lot stuff going
Speaker 1: on on in the old d C. Yes there is
Speaker 1: timely Sullio's. Hey, I mean it's like people in and out.
Speaker 1: It's a revolving door up there. Oh all right, let's
Speaker 1: start talking about football. Uh, welcome everyone. The fast forward
Speaker 1: at the first eight minutes of the show. Uh, now
Speaker 1: we talk football, and actually we're gonna start somewhere special. Uh.
Speaker 1: It seems like we start there a lot these days,
Speaker 1: some would say too much. At least one Twitter user
Speaker 1: pointed that out to me. Let's go to the Ravens nest. Okay, now,
Speaker 1: maybe the Ravens are in trouble, but they have not
Speaker 1: signed Colin Kaepernick yet. Now we know the story. Flacco
Speaker 1: has got a back injury. Uh. And Ian Mallett um
Speaker 1: through five interceptions the other day and practice could have
Speaker 1: been seven. Are you kidding me? What are we doing?
Speaker 1: Tarrell sucks openly mocking Uh. Mr Mallett guy doesn't even
Speaker 1: know how to set an iPhone alarm. As we learn
Speaker 1: from hard Knocks, He's gonna be completing passes regularly for
Speaker 1: an NFL team. Let's calm down. So the Ravens have
Speaker 1: a quarterback problem, but they hadn't signed Kaepernick yet. But
Speaker 1: it's still on the radar, and this is interesting, Greg,
Speaker 1: this is very interesting. Speaking at a fan forum on Sunday,
Speaker 1: Ravens president Dick Cass said the team has had direct
Speaker 1: discussions with Colin Kaepernick that according to the Baltimore Son, UH,
Speaker 1: Kaepernick wants to play. The Ravens are interested. There's no doubt.
Speaker 1: They've been very open about that, but nothing has been decided.
Speaker 1: Mike Silver reported on Saturday that Kaepernick would be excited
Speaker 1: to join the Ravens but has had zero discussions with
Speaker 1: the team. Here's UH team owner, Ravens owner um Steve Ashatti,
Speaker 1: who was at that fan for him and Kaepernick was
Speaker 1: a hot button topic, and he was explaining why this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a polarizing decision no matter what. When
Speaker 1: I fired uh Billick nine years ago, UH, it sounded
Speaker 1: like half the It sounded like the people in Baltimore
Speaker 1: wanted me to fire him until I fired him, and
Speaker 1: then I found that thought I was an idiot. So
Speaker 1: he got to be careful about the vocal minority. They
Speaker 1: have a tendency to seem to, you know, sound be
Speaker 1: a bigger group than they are. So I'm i'm we're
Speaker 1: very sensitive to it, and we're monitoring it and we're
Speaker 1: we're still, as as he says, scrimmaging it, and we're
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's what's the right tact and
Speaker 1: so um, pray for us, Pray for us. Greg what well,
Speaker 1: I think he was trying to be funny, but no,
Speaker 1: really yeah, because I think there was laughter, and I
Speaker 1: like he was taking it lightly. And if you read
Speaker 1: all the quotes that he says, you know that the
Speaker 1: weird thing was when he asked about a fan bell,
Speaker 1: are you concerned about hurting the brand? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: this guy isn't. Colin Kaepernick hasn't committed any crime, the
Speaker 1: whole work shopping it with the fans, and Basati saying
Speaker 1: that he talked to Ray Lewis about it on Sunday
Speaker 1: morning to get his feel and and Ozzie Newsome says,
Speaker 1: they're scrimmaging it and they're talking and all of it
Speaker 1: speaks to the to me that the Ravens coaching staff
Speaker 1: has made their decision they want to sign Colin Kaepernick,
Speaker 1: because why would you be doing all of this nonsense
Speaker 1: of you know, politicking and surveying unless you had already
Speaker 1: basically decided this guy can improve our team, and that's
Speaker 1: why I think he's gonna be signed. So this is
Speaker 1: we're just picking up the story midway through, and I
Speaker 1: think in a week or whatever it is, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about the impact that he makes on that.
Speaker 1: I think you're I think you're right. I think they
Speaker 1: that enough people inside that organization have talked to Colin
Speaker 1: cow Bernick and feel that, you know, from from the
Speaker 1: aspect of the person, there's no real blockage to bringing
Speaker 1: them in. But it shows you because we all agree
Speaker 1: that there's not a black ball situation going on here.
Speaker 1: But it does show you that for some reason, well
Speaker 1: for obvious reasons, that the Kaepernick experience it gives pause
Speaker 1: to various people within the building beyond the coaching staff,
Speaker 1: and that other teams have probably had these conversations that
Speaker 1: we will never know about and decided no. All we
Speaker 1: ever hear about is this is a business and teams
Speaker 1: are making business decisions. Make a decision here and stop
Speaker 1: just talking about it and asking people if it's going
Speaker 1: to hurt their feelings and what they think about it.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be the decision makers. You're sitting in
Speaker 1: the most powerful seats. Just do it. I mean, you don't.
Speaker 1: You didn't. You don't see teams doing this with other
Speaker 1: players who have far worse things that they've done. I mean,
Speaker 1: you have uh, Joe Banner, who used to be the
Speaker 1: Eagles GM talking about how the Eagles didn't ask fans
Speaker 1: about what they thought when before they signed Michael Vick
Speaker 1: after the dog fighting thing and after he got out
Speaker 1: of prison, Like this is sort of ridiculous, I think,
Speaker 1: especially when you have Ryan Mallett who's having a complete
Speaker 1: meltdown in practice and your starting quarterback is hurt, you're
Speaker 1: signing random camp are arms from indoor football leagues, like,
Speaker 1: get it together and just sign him. Isn't the problem
Speaker 1: that it happened that this there were no fan fest.
Speaker 1: It was a bad day to have the pre scheduled
Speaker 1: fan for him, right, I mean, he wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: on record saying any of this stuff and they would
Speaker 1: have gone about their and I think the public waffling, well,
Speaker 1: it seems a little silly to me as well. But
Speaker 1: I think maybe it's their internal decision to try to
Speaker 1: get the temperature of the fan base before making the decision,
Speaker 1: just in case it's atomic in the other direction, and
Speaker 1: they don't want to deal and they're overly sensitive if
Speaker 1: if if they are, because they just tell with the
Speaker 1: Ray Rice thing, I mean, this was an organization that
Speaker 1: does not want to get find themselves and snared in
Speaker 1: something else that's you know, bigger than the team. And
Speaker 1: those are the only situations where ownership gets involved. Usually
Speaker 1: is something like a Ray Rice. And that's why it's
Speaker 1: weird from the outside conflating these two domestic violence or
Speaker 1: serious crimes. And the guy, as Bashati said, uh, doing
Speaker 1: something that is his right, non violent protesting something we
Speaker 1: should be embracing. He said that too. He said he
Speaker 1: didn't like it necessarily and he liked it better when
Speaker 1: he was kneeling, but we should be embracing it. It's all.
Speaker 1: It's all very strange to me, and I think we're
Speaker 1: about When he said this guy is a great guy.
Speaker 1: I've spoken to him multiple times now, I kind of
Speaker 1: read that as that was a little bit of public
Speaker 1: pressure of kind of pushing it to the ownership, like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I like this guy. I'm gonna start putting this out
Speaker 1: there that it's a good guy. You know what else
Speaker 1: Ravens fans won't like is if Joe Flacco mrs extended
Speaker 1: time and Ryan Mallett is throwing five picks in games
Speaker 1: that matter. I mean, that was maybe a little bunch
Speaker 1: of burner blowtorch spot right there. I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 1: My cat. Maybe it catches this nest on fire and
Speaker 1: it just burns to the ground. With all that being
Speaker 1: enough of the nest. With all this being said, this
Speaker 1: happened sometimes with veteran quarterbacks where you don't sign him
Speaker 1: till midway through camp, where you give a long lease
Speaker 1: to the guy who's been there, like Ryan Mallett, and
Speaker 1: you don't even end up letting Mallett compete in the
Speaker 1: end that you're giving him kind of a rope, and
Speaker 1: when they decide to make the move, maybe it's just
Speaker 1: mallets out Kaepernicks in. Let's move on and talk about
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars who need a left tackle or really
Speaker 1: need the people in the house to step up and
Speaker 1: do the job, because uh, Brandon Albert is retiring. About
Speaker 1: that uh strange offseason story here. Albert traded by the
Speaker 1: Dolphins to the Jaguars. He skipped off season workouts, wanted
Speaker 1: a new deal, uh, and instead he releases a statement
Speaker 1: on Monday saying that he is shutting it down and
Speaker 1: thanks to jackson the organization and uh colle and this
Speaker 1: is this leaves Jacksonville with a pretty huge hole on
Speaker 1: their offensive line. Is they try to get things right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to really look into their rookie now
Speaker 1: and hope that he can step up and make that jump.
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson, thank god that they drafted him so early,
Speaker 1: because it looked like there was going to be some
Speaker 1: some battles there as to how the whole offensive line
Speaker 1: was going to shake out. And Doug Moroney obviously wants
Speaker 1: all of his best blockers on the field. So if
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson can make that jump, great, But otherwise, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a hole there for an offense that
Speaker 1: needs to take that step behind in front of a
Speaker 1: quarterback that also had a meltdown the other day. And
Speaker 1: think about this, if you remember the draft class and
Speaker 1: the lead up to and everything, this was not a
Speaker 1: good lineman draft class. So Cam Robinson, Uh, maybe he's
Speaker 1: one of the first offensive lineman to come off the board,
Speaker 1: but in a draft class that nobody was in love with.
Speaker 1: Who knows if this guy can play at least who
Speaker 1: knows if you could play immediately, you might have a
Speaker 1: major issue here. I wouldn't be surprised that they pick
Speaker 1: up someone before it's uh the month turns over plus
Speaker 1: with Leonard Fournette there too, I mean they're gonna wanna
Speaker 1: have some really good run blocking in there, so that's
Speaker 1: gonna really make a difference. The same general manager drafted
Speaker 1: Luke Jocal number two overall to play left tackle. So
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson they have high hopes for, but he was
Speaker 1: starting as a backup behind. Now are you is a
Speaker 1: thirty four you know overall pick? There's no, there's no.
Speaker 1: He was a stud at Bama, but he had some
Speaker 1: shaky moments against Miles Garrett and Barnett as well. So
Speaker 1: I mean that the jury is still out on came
Speaker 1: Robintson for sure, and weird ending for Albert because this trade,
Speaker 1: this this trade with the Dolphins where they're the jackal
Speaker 1: was getting that draft late late round draft pick back
Speaker 1: because of the way this thing played out. But I
Speaker 1: do recognize occasionally, have you ever had a job, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a lower level one that was painful,
Speaker 1: and you occasionally you had the moment you walk into
Speaker 1: work you say it's over. I'm leaving this job. You
Speaker 1: can feel it. You can just feel it, and like
Speaker 1: maybe some of these veterans, you're thirty two, you didn't.
Speaker 1: This is not the situation you wanted to be in
Speaker 1: at this point. You wanted more money, you couldn't get it.
Speaker 1: You come to work, you're like three days into training
Speaker 1: camp and you're like, I'm pulling the plug on this thing.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on my couch two days. I want
Speaker 1: to quit. On my first day of a job, I
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a segment producer for a like
Speaker 1: wacky out takes from from East Sports Perfect show, you know,
Speaker 1: like where I chose like whacky out takes from from
Speaker 1: people crashing their motorbikes or whatever. And I felt like
Speaker 1: hollow inside and decided I was going to quit. On
Speaker 1: my drive there. That morning, I had a job that
Speaker 1: in Colorado, had to take a bus too. It was
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was at tempt job. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what it was till I got there. And it
Speaker 1: was a flashlight a mini flashlight factory, and so you
Speaker 1: had to use this like push down machine to make
Speaker 1: these parts just part of the flashlight. And I thought
Speaker 1: I was doing well, and it was for terrible p
Speaker 1: I'm like making like I took me like hours to
Speaker 1: make like sixteen of these things, and like this like
Speaker 1: sixty year old, like retiree who's doing a part time
Speaker 1: job next to me, has made like a hundred and eighty.
Speaker 1: Like I'm getting destroyed by this, like sixties something year old.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't. I don't. I don't think I'm even good
Speaker 1: at this. I've got to get out of this job,
Speaker 1: and I left. I guess we're sharing tales of short
Speaker 1: term uh during college, you know, I didn't come home
Speaker 1: and get a job situations and uh during summer break
Speaker 1: and a friend told me, oh, Sloman Shield, this security
Speaker 1: company was hiring cold caller home one and uh so
Speaker 1: I went to this basically walked into this little um
Speaker 1: office where it was just like banks of phones and
Speaker 1: I had to cold call like elderly women, uh like
Speaker 1: living alone and try to trick them into getting security systems.
Speaker 1: And then also you get I remember getting told off
Speaker 1: a couple of times because you're calling during dinner. And
Speaker 1: at the end of day, I was like, I am
Speaker 1: never doing this ever again, so I never showed up again.
Speaker 1: And then I called like a week later, because I
Speaker 1: was like, Daddy wants to get paid for that day,
Speaker 1: and they're like, if you want that, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to come get it. So I drove there and I
Speaker 1: knocked on the office of the woman they hired me,
Speaker 1: and uh, and she just like handed me this thing
Speaker 1: was like a thirty four dollar check and I was
Speaker 1: just like, I don't care again. Money all right, I'm up.
Speaker 1: I worked at a I was a secretary at a
Speaker 1: produce broker in Philadelphia, at like the yard where they
Speaker 1: brought in all of the fruits and vegetables and everything.
Speaker 1: And my boss sat behind me and would scream at
Speaker 1: the top of his lungs for eight hours of people
Speaker 1: on the phone every day. And so I would leave
Speaker 1: and my shoulders were basically connected to my ears from
Speaker 1: stress at that point. So I lasted a week and
Speaker 1: then I was like, I'm never I just didn't show up.
Speaker 1: But that was it. That was the only time I
Speaker 1: didn't show up for work. Well, we survived, we did it,
Speaker 1: We did it. We made it through it. Um. And
Speaker 1: speaking of the jaguars, uh, and we said Ryan Mallett
Speaker 1: had the interception meltdown. Um. And just to tell you
Speaker 1: how bad the mallet meltdown was. At one point in
Speaker 1: the practices dispatch UH from ESPN ESPN dot COM's Jamison Hensley,
Speaker 1: h Terrell Suggs said, during the practice, Hey Marty, to
Speaker 1: Marty Moore and Wig, the offensive coordinator, tell Mallot to
Speaker 1: throw the guys wearing the purple jerseys the offense. I
Speaker 1: feel like there's always Trrell sucks stories like this. He
Speaker 1: would be the last guy you want on the on
Speaker 1: the opposing side on your own team, if you couldn't
Speaker 1: find a better guy than Trails. And then yes, we're
Speaker 1: talking about how the Jaguars don't have a clear path
Speaker 1: that left tackle anymore. Uh. You have the coach Doug
Speaker 1: Morone saying he wants to run it every down, which
Speaker 1: feels like the possible crisis of confidence in the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: And then Blake Bortles uh this weekend, goes out during
Speaker 1: a practice and throws five picks, including one returned by
Speaker 1: Telvin Smith for the touchdown. UM. Michael Doroco of ESPN
Speaker 1: characterized bordles performance as quote one of the worst practices
Speaker 1: of his career. And this is where I must say
Speaker 1: uh to not seem like I'm a part of the
Speaker 1: historical media. It's just practice. Who cares MOA. But guess what,
Speaker 1: I don't want my quarterback throne, five picks and the
Speaker 1: completely lost at any part at any point in practice.
Speaker 1: And you've got to be very worried if you're fans
Speaker 1: of both those teams. And to your point, you mentioned
Speaker 1: that Dug Morone said he wanted to run the ball
Speaker 1: a ton. Well, they asked him, like, if if you
Speaker 1: had your way in a game, how many times would
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles throw the ball? And he wasn't kidding. He
Speaker 1: just said zero and that was it. Yeah, He's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I want to run the ball. I
Speaker 1: want to change the way we play the game. Like
Speaker 1: that's what he said. He I just want to run
Speaker 1: non stuff like that. That's how you destroy an opponent
Speaker 1: in like old Madden or tech Mo Bowl games, when
Speaker 1: you just grind out the clock one drive an entire quarter.
Speaker 1: Remember when the Jets did that said if you're like
Speaker 1: seven passes the whole game, and they um, by the way,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't you be a little bit more than a
Speaker 1: little bit nervous of your Doug Maron And they did
Speaker 1: not give you a real option as a secondary quarterback,
Speaker 1: and you got Tom Coughlin upstairs looking down at you,
Speaker 1: who still wants to coach. And I feel like he's
Speaker 1: being set up to fail, just like Todd Bowles in
Speaker 1: New York Is. It's a tough situation. But the way
Speaker 1: they didn't say about Maron is like, I know people
Speaker 1: cannot stand dug Maron, but he is in every interview
Speaker 1: he's done with the Jaguars. He's a tough dude. Like
Speaker 1: I just don't think that he's I don't well, I
Speaker 1: just don't see him as are you gonna win games
Speaker 1: without a quarterback? If Blake Bortles is gonna be the
Speaker 1: same or worse than he was last season. I mean
Speaker 1: this comes after Tom Coughlin was like, yeah, he pretty
Speaker 1: much fixed his mechanics in the off season. We all
Speaker 1: remember that story, and supposedly he worked with all of
Speaker 1: these quarterback gurus Adam Dido and Tom one practice though
Speaker 1: I already said that, all right, but it's fair. I mean,
Speaker 1: if he came out and threw seven touchdowns and had
Speaker 1: a great practice, we wouldn't put well by the way
Speaker 1: too much. In here's they say today, if you want,
Speaker 1: if you want to really get overly into it. Like
Speaker 1: he threw fourteen straight made fourteen straight completions with no
Speaker 1: picks in today's practice. He's fantastic in they're flying. Did
Speaker 1: that happen? Is that true? Yeah? Alright, everything's fine, No concerns,
Speaker 1: Jacksonville moving on. You know who does have concerns the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers, who used their first round pick on
Speaker 1: wide receiver Mike Williams, and they don't know if they're
Speaker 1: going to have them at all this year. And this
Speaker 1: is kind of following up on something that happened last week,
Speaker 1: the back injury. He got the epidural shot to help
Speaker 1: prepare a herniated disc in the back. Um Tom Tolesco,
Speaker 1: at the time, general manager, was optimistic he could avoid
Speaker 1: surgery that would end to season, but head coach of
Speaker 1: the Chargers, Anthony lynn Uh said this week that he's
Speaker 1: not so sure that his rookie will see the field
Speaker 1: at all. Here's the quote. I'm hopeful that it's not
Speaker 1: season ending, but who knows it could be. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You'd like to have him out there, but fortunately we
Speaker 1: have depth at the position and we're gonna be okay. Greg.
Speaker 1: This hits at something you were talking about a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. They have plenty of depth, but if
Speaker 1: guys keep dropping like flies, it's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of trouble. Greg. By the way, coincidentally, I don't even
Speaker 1: know if it's a coincidence, that's just a fact, was
Speaker 1: at Chargers camp today talking about and absolutely about the NFL.
Speaker 1: We don't like this one as much. That is overly aggressive.
Speaker 1: I don't know that end kind of UM. Anyway, you
Speaker 1: were there, Greg, got Charger skimp, then you jet it
Speaker 1: up here like a champion. Uh to do the podcast,
Speaker 1: which we appreciate. Uh. Keenan Allen looks greatweet out. Keenan
Speaker 1: Allen looks all the way back. I guess I haven't
Speaker 1: didn't see him in practice beforehand, but all I know
Speaker 1: is that he's one of the best route runners in
Speaker 1: the league. And he was matching up against Casey Hayward,
Speaker 1: who had a terrific Pro Bowl season last year, all
Speaker 1: day and so that was a fun matchup, and he
Speaker 1: got the better of Casey Hayward throughout the day. So
Speaker 1: I think that is a great sign for Keenan Allen.
Speaker 1: He was not nearly as open as consistently as Tyrelle Williams,
Speaker 1: who's my guy this year? And I know Mike Williams
Speaker 1: was drafting the top ten. They could have used that
Speaker 1: pick at a different position. They'll certainly welcome him back.
Speaker 1: He was there in his uniform, but it does not
Speaker 1: sound like he's going to be remotely ready for the
Speaker 1: start of the season. Maybe he's put on pup if
Speaker 1: they stay healthy, big if ty Roll Williams is a
Speaker 1: great number two. I mean, he was the one getting
Speaker 1: deep today and Philip Rivers was throwing the ball deep
Speaker 1: to him. Travis Benjamin is there making some noise. You
Speaker 1: got Henry and Gates. It's like they got enough pasket.
Speaker 1: How he looked fine. I was mostly watching, mostly watching
Speaker 1: the wideouts. But the thing that stands out with him
Speaker 1: is he's running routes against cornerbacks. I mean he's running.
Speaker 1: He doesn't look like a tight end. He just kind
Speaker 1: of looks like a big wide receiver for this team.
Speaker 1: And they were always nailed by the injury bug, but
Speaker 1: like this injury specifically this year, came at the right
Speaker 1: time versus and I mean, if you can lose a
Speaker 1: wide receiver this team, you're they're gonna be functional. You
Speaker 1: were just saying if they lost, if they lost their
Speaker 1: second pick, Forest Lamp or their third pick Phoeney, who
Speaker 1: supposed started centers like those, I think would be more
Speaker 1: hurtful to their team because those two guys are really
Speaker 1: the key of helping to fix that offensive line, rookie
Speaker 1: starters in the middle. It could be worse, but it
Speaker 1: is a disaster to draft a guy when your first
Speaker 1: round pick, a guy you invested all that time studying
Speaker 1: and getting behind, talking yourself into the pick, believing he
Speaker 1: would be a major part in the offense, and then
Speaker 1: him just disappearing for a year, that would be very bad.
Speaker 1: But they can survive it, essentially with an injury he
Speaker 1: already had that obviously would not have drafted him. This
Speaker 1: was gonna happen. In other a f C West news,
Speaker 1: the Broncos will be without Shane Ray for six to
Speaker 1: eight weeks. He suffered a torn ligament in his wrist
Speaker 1: on Thursday. UM rap Sheet reported that Ray had successful
Speaker 1: surgery Saturday. He'll likely play with a cast early on
Speaker 1: to stabilize it. Uh. And this is the same Shane
Speaker 1: Ray who basically made Denver's UH, and that Denver and
Speaker 1: DeMarcus wear his mutual decision to move on from each other.
Speaker 1: It made it a much more palatable situation because this
Speaker 1: guy looked like he looks like a superstar in the making.
Speaker 1: But now he's another guy he's gonna cume back after
Speaker 1: missing Tim Colleen. Is he gonna be the same guys
Speaker 1: that risk going to bother him all year? Not good
Speaker 1: news for Denver. No. I mean, at least if it
Speaker 1: was going to happen, at least happen now, so he
Speaker 1: can possibly be back for week one or two optimistically speaking,
Speaker 1: but he had eight sacks last season and he was
Speaker 1: really poised for sort of a breakout. With DeMarcus Ware
Speaker 1: being gone, that's sort of paved a path for him
Speaker 1: to start and and really have a nice season. So
Speaker 1: they have a good defense and it is still really early.
Speaker 1: I don't think that it's going to be a major
Speaker 1: lingering problem for them, So hopefully he gets back. They
Speaker 1: are light with it on it with ed edge rushers
Speaker 1: right now. They if you look at the snap counts
Speaker 1: from anyone on their outside of von Miller and was
Speaker 1: Cassima at a Bali, it's the only other players that
Speaker 1: played snaps on this team last year, right and they
Speaker 1: have a bunch of rookies at a balle is a
Speaker 1: guy who didn't stick with the Saints. I mean, I know,
Speaker 1: he's a handsome Hank favorite because he's German born and
Speaker 1: Henry loves those, uh the foreign born players. What a
Speaker 1: great story. But he didn't stick with the Saints, and
Speaker 1: now he's starting for a team that that was the
Speaker 1: best outside linebacker group in the league because they not
Speaker 1: only lost Shane Ray Shaq Barrett is coming off of
Speaker 1: surgery and is expected to miss a big chunk of
Speaker 1: this season with a hip injury. So he suddenly went
Speaker 1: from where Barrett and Ray two at a BALI it's
Speaker 1: not a good trade, not great, not great, not great.
Speaker 1: And on the other side of the ball, I'm a
Speaker 1: little worried about Vance Joseph. Here he's taken over Wade Phillips' defense.
Speaker 1: We say it's a good defense. I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: a great, great secondary. But but and it's got Von
Speaker 1: Miller and Derek Wolfe. But yeah, I don't know the
Speaker 1: rest of the I'm not sure it's great without without
Speaker 1: all these players. Oh. Ps, Vance Joseph is the first
Speaker 1: year head coach. He's got a lot on his plate
Speaker 1: to deal with, so he can't just put all his
Speaker 1: efforts into making sure that defense works. He's gotta figure
Speaker 1: out what's going on office, and guess what what transition
Speaker 1: number two. He's got some problems on that side of
Speaker 1: the ball too. That's what he said about his two
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks, Trevor Simeon and Paxton Lynch. Did I like
Speaker 1: what I saw? Not? Really? Both guys had issues today.
Speaker 1: I didn't like what I saw today. Honest, they both
Speaker 1: struggled today. Let's hear a little bit more from the coach.
Speaker 1: It was a rough day for all offense today. The
Speaker 1: defense came um with great intensity, made some big plays
Speaker 1: in a in a low red zone, which are huge
Speaker 1: on a ten point swing. We don't want that from
Speaker 1: our offense. But defensively, it was a good day, all right.
Speaker 1: Are we concerned about this at all? Mark? I simply
Speaker 1: don't have the time to be concerned about these types
Speaker 1: of things until it really bubbles into something in real games.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's it's not surprising at all.
Speaker 1: We happened in the debunker bunker. I mean, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's debunking in what do you how do you? How
Speaker 1: do you get in this place there. Okay, go ahead,
Speaker 1: I'm saying I think with Paxton Winch, it should be
Speaker 1: surprised no one that this is a guy still working
Speaker 1: out the King's big time. I mean, he's he's had
Speaker 1: just not enough on field testing and play to be
Speaker 1: looking polished at this point. I like Trevor Simeon from
Speaker 1: what I saw last year, so I'm also not going
Speaker 1: to be overly concerned about a bad practice for him.
Speaker 1: He wasn't seven picks or something. He's a young quarterback
Speaker 1: in a new system. That's the thing that's that's lost
Speaker 1: when you when you make not that they had a choice,
Speaker 1: but when they made a coaching change, you know, and
Speaker 1: they're and they're going up against a good defense, as
Speaker 1: we just talked about. As I mean, the secondary is
Speaker 1: pretty good. Bradley Roby, he I think intercepted Paxton Lynch,
Speaker 1: I want to say twice. So they have a good
Speaker 1: test out there at least in the practices, so maybe
Speaker 1: that will help them. They couldn't run the ball last
Speaker 1: year and their offensive line was a sheer disaster, so
Speaker 1: those things, both of those things need to change. I
Speaker 1: know it's it's only July thirty, one. But I'm starting
Speaker 1: to get a little more excited about week one. And
Speaker 1: you know which game I got circled. Usually it's a
Speaker 1: big time after thought that the second doubleheader game, you're tired.
Speaker 1: You're almost like, I wish we could save this for
Speaker 1: another time, not this season. Chargers at Broncos or the
Speaker 1: first doubleheader Monday night. I like that game. I I
Speaker 1: want to go see the Charges go in there and
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna put some points on the board. Yeah,
Speaker 1: take it out on vance Chargers thirty one Broncos. I'm
Speaker 1: with you, exact number. Everybody marked that down. Then, and finally,
Speaker 1: you know what, A lot of teams have quarterback issues.
Speaker 1: Maybe the Broncos are one of them. One team that
Speaker 1: does not have quarterback issues Mark Sessler's Cleveland Browns, because
Speaker 1: you know why. Kenny Brett a guy that, yeah, he
Speaker 1: can catch the ball and he can run arout, but
Speaker 1: he's also well known as one of the great quarterback
Speaker 1: gurus and minds. He could see something special when he
Speaker 1: sees it. And and Kenny Brett has noticed. Deshauan Kaiser,
Speaker 1: the Browns second round rookie, has really been looking pretty
Speaker 1: good since uh O t a s till now, let's
Speaker 1: hear what Kenny had to say each day. Uh is
Speaker 1: the from O t as I could tell different person.
Speaker 1: And UH actually asked him yesterday, has the offense slowed
Speaker 1: down for him? And he said yes, And I was like,
Speaker 1: I can. I can tell he's looking at certain things.
Speaker 1: He's seeing defense before the stamp count and once he
Speaker 1: lines up, he knows the certain things that he has
Speaker 1: to do and and he's gonna be one of the
Speaker 1: great ones. One of the great ones. Mark, this is
Speaker 1: why you dropped out of the number one spot of
Speaker 1: the pain rankings. Oh makes it so clear now, And
Speaker 1: I will say this, I think that Greg and I
Speaker 1: have been on the same page with the concept of
Speaker 1: Deshaun Kaiser having a clear path to be the Week
Speaker 1: one starter unless someone else there really really excels or
Speaker 1: he flops, because I think that that would be great
Speaker 1: for the Browns to discover that this second round pick,
Speaker 1: they got to see him this year before you get
Speaker 1: into another quarterback rich draft class, give him a chance.
Speaker 1: I don't understand how someone is one of the great
Speaker 1: ones on July or something that seems a little one
Speaker 1: of the great ones. It is hard though there's not
Speaker 1: much to pick from, but Kaiser has received more positive
Speaker 1: buzz from writers and other people than really almost outside
Speaker 1: of the r G three Move the Earth thing from
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson. I can't think of another quarterback in the
Speaker 1: last ten fifteen years in Cleveland that's received this kind
Speaker 1: of buzz other than maybe some Kelly Holcom type stuff
Speaker 1: way back in the day fourteen year anniversary of the
Speaker 1: Kelly Harley wasn't getting that back in six What is
Speaker 1: your your level of excitement on a one to Cozar
Speaker 1: scale of what Kaiser could do? And I don't mean
Speaker 1: like the excitement that you're willing to share publicly, like
Speaker 1: on this podcast where you pretend you're not just completely
Speaker 1: you know, in love with the Cleveland Browns and obsessed unhealthily.
Speaker 1: I mean in your heart, Like what is this one
Speaker 1: to h in terms of excitement? I honestly like you,
Speaker 1: I am emotionally and and I think it's a good place, honestly, Like,
Speaker 1: show something to me. I'm not not wasting mental energy
Speaker 1: and getting excited about this team until they actually do
Speaker 1: something tangibly in reality? What is the point always say
Speaker 1: what you know? You have to know? How many times
Speaker 1: have I ever even how many times have I ever,
Speaker 1: even like in a side conversation, said anything that would
Speaker 1: suggest any excitement about the Brown season this offseason. Well,
Speaker 1: that's not your way in general, where they have a
Speaker 1: pretty good tight end in the past, I have got
Speaker 1: I have started, I'll start to gush and start to
Speaker 1: get excited. I simply am regarded your your guard area,
Speaker 1: garden and and that makes a lot of sense. What
Speaker 1: about the superman tied end they have? Now, who's having
Speaker 1: trouble catching the ball in practice? Is that a new
Speaker 1: Is that a new thing? That's real? Oh you mean,
Speaker 1: oh Seth developed first, that devloved. That's that's money in
Speaker 1: the bank, money in the pressure restaurant. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the one guy. That's probably the one area of true
Speaker 1: genuine excitement. All Right, we have so much more news
Speaker 1: to hit that we have to break out odds and
Speaker 1: ends and you know what that means, Connie front and
Speaker 1: it's time for odds and ends. Odds it ends. Hey,
Speaker 1: everybody tell your friends because dodds and ends. I kind
Speaker 1: of almost got it. Rosie is just shaking his head, no, thanks, Well,
Speaker 1: we're looking for perfection here, We're looking perfect okay, Alright,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the defiant ones that the HBO documentary.
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes you too. They said they were in
Speaker 1: there for two hundred and fifty six takes to get
Speaker 1: the song right with. That's what we're doing. You're right,
Speaker 1: we're not looking for tiny box. We're looking for That's
Speaker 1: the way I look at it. All. Right, here we
Speaker 1: go Little Austin and the slogan no I don't want
Speaker 1: you should Okay, here we go. Let's let's let's move
Speaker 1: on the Detroit Lions who finally started practicing. Good for them,
Speaker 1: but the team and out Sunday that it has assigned
Speaker 1: safety Glover Quinn to a contract extension through the twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen season. Rap Sheet says two years, thirteen million with
Speaker 1: nine and a half guarantees. Good good decision there, old Greggy.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, been an underrated move by them bringing him
Speaker 1: in from Houston. Was kind of a guy and no
Speaker 1: one really cared about before he got there. More extension talked.
Speaker 1: The Minnesota Vikings, this also coming from rap Sheet, agreed
Speaker 1: to terms with quarterback Xavier Rhodes on a five year
Speaker 1: contract extension where its seventy million more. Own Rappingport added
Speaker 1: the deal includes forty one million and guarantees, along with
Speaker 1: twelve million signing bonus. The two thousand thirteen first round pick,
Speaker 1: uh is twenty seven, coming off his first Pro Bowls season.
Speaker 1: He really put the clamps on O d B in
Speaker 1: Week four. Mark, that's the guy you want to keep
Speaker 1: in the building. Nice move, right, absolutely. I mean I
Speaker 1: think the Vikings are telling us what they think about
Speaker 1: their defense. They resigned Everson Griffith Griffin, and they want
Speaker 1: to they want to get Anthony Barr a new deal,
Speaker 1: so they've got they If you want to look at
Speaker 1: the heart and the strength of the Minnesota Vikings, it's
Speaker 1: their defense and they're gonna pay him. How about it?
Speaker 1: Making the late pick on? Right? Dan hands this you
Speaker 1: always make a lot of making. I don't say anything.
Speaker 1: That's okay. Why is everything being shoved over on me today?
Speaker 1: I'm the reason that the you know, the reddit board
Speaker 1: doesn't have their prize. I didn't even know about that
Speaker 1: until twenty minutes ago. No, no, no, I was just
Speaker 1: saying that it's now officially being pushed on my lap.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's see where that goes and I
Speaker 1: will work with you on this. Okay. Well, that's nice.
Speaker 1: But you're the ideas. Don't expect him to come quickly.
Speaker 1: The sorry subreddit that comes from Mark Um the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Bucks. Uh, you know, Doug Martin is still on
Speaker 1: that team, and a lot of people are saying, Oh,
Speaker 1: this could be a nice bounce back season. Fantasy owner
Speaker 1: is getting excited about it. Maybe we can get the
Speaker 1: Doug the Hamster muscles hamster. Sorry, buddy, maybe we'll get
Speaker 1: him on a discount and have a big gear. Well,
Speaker 1: he's gotta get some snaps first, because the Bucks GM
Speaker 1: Jason Light said that the starting running back gig might
Speaker 1: not even be there for Doug Martin. Uh. He said
Speaker 1: it might not. According to ESPN's Dan Graziano, Look, he
Speaker 1: has done everything we've asked him to do, and he
Speaker 1: looks reminiscent of two thousand fifteen when he's playing for
Speaker 1: his contract. Interesting, he looks the same out there mentally
Speaker 1: and physically. Uh So he might be one of the
Speaker 1: guys that needs a carrot and he's got a pretty
Speaker 1: big carrot in front of him right now, because there's
Speaker 1: no guarantees that he's going to be here, and he
Speaker 1: knows that we've talked to him, and he's good with it.
Speaker 1: He goes, I understand, Greg, you're putting your hand out why, well,
Speaker 1: right in there, he's telegraphing what he's doing. He's putting
Speaker 1: the carrot out there. I don't really buy into this
Speaker 1: his he's just making it clear that hey, we think
Speaker 1: not gonna stay motivated. So let's let's put this. What's
Speaker 1: gonna happen, Jeremicky McNichols is going to take over the
Speaker 1: starting job. I mean, this is basically they probably feel
Speaker 1: like this is a guy that he has been light
Speaker 1: has been gushing over him all off season, all offseason.
Speaker 1: He looks the way he used to look. He is
Speaker 1: a big part of their offense. You're gonna tell me
Speaker 1: now that suddenly is going to come back. They knew
Speaker 1: the suspension was coming, and he's gonna get replaced by
Speaker 1: some guy that no one today's even thinking about. And
Speaker 1: he's been so inconsistent too within his career. I mean,
Speaker 1: you look at the years that he had in fifteen
Speaker 1: where he went over fourteen hundred yards both years, and
Speaker 1: his yards per cary per carry were awesome, and then
Speaker 1: last year he was again back down to two point
Speaker 1: nine yards per carry. You don't even know what you're
Speaker 1: gonna get with him now, was yards Per Carrot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about Doug though, because he he
Speaker 1: said he referred to himself in the third person recently,
Speaker 1: but in a way that I had never heard, which
Speaker 1: is he's like, you're gonna see the you know, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be like the two thousand fifteen dug or the
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve dug. That's what you're gonna say this
Speaker 1: because like, hey, what different dougs every year? This is
Speaker 1: one of the good years. It's troubling, and that is troubling.
Speaker 1: The Ravens have added a tight end the team, and
Speaker 1: out Sunday had signed Larry Donnelle Baltimore waved receiver Tim
Speaker 1: Patrick and the corresponding move. It's a team that needs
Speaker 1: some able bodies at that position. Dennis Pitta, Uh, you
Speaker 1: know he's done. Crocket Gilmore has a potentially serious knee issue. Uh.
Speaker 1: Benjamin Watson and Max Williams on the roster. We both
Speaker 1: coming off injuries. Larry Dennell on the roster. Colleen, here's
Speaker 1: the question, what is it? I don't understand what our
Speaker 1: god to He's get a job in this league. I
Speaker 1: do medical things to Browns Cleveland, who is this a
Speaker 1: liad league in touchdown catches at my position? Was mad
Speaker 1: for it? Mad for it? Do you think that's how
Speaker 1: he pitched the Ravens. When Gary Barnage went, I'm to
Speaker 1: pick up the phone, call me and I would give
Speaker 1: him a job. I don't understand. He's been at the
Speaker 1: cozy too long. I feel like they won't sign Kaepernick
Speaker 1: and Gary Barnage met with Baltimore and like they what's
Speaker 1: the what's the problem with Gary Barnage? If you need
Speaker 1: a tight end right now? Why Larry denel over him?
Speaker 1: And Baltimore is hemorrhaging tight end? So they could they
Speaker 1: could have used him, Barnenge can do? I mean, that's
Speaker 1: it's just a surprising they wouldn't take a flower on that.
Speaker 1: Quits in, mate, I'm quits in clearly upset. You've a
Speaker 1: right to be Gary. I've been black bowed. That's probably true.
Speaker 1: I've been black bowed because what because you're from across
Speaker 1: your God, he he was one, you know between the
Speaker 1: lines of I don't. I hope it's not a curse
Speaker 1: of him coming on the show. You know, people's careers
Speaker 1: after they come on this show first, Greg Hardy, now
Speaker 1: Gary Barnen, Alright, don't tell anybody. Patrick Peterson on the show.
Speaker 1: He's he's in a good place. You're in the clear.
Speaker 1: Don't worry. We're good. Uh. The news. Ben Roethlisberger unsure
Speaker 1: if he'll play behind to beyond two thousand seventeen. Uh,
Speaker 1: he said in an interview with the Pittsburgh Post Gazette
Speaker 1: on Friday. Uh. Familiar refrain from Mr Roethlisberger. Age roethl
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger said, then laughed. I guess asked when he might decide,
Speaker 1: why he might decide to leave, It's just it's fourteen years.
Speaker 1: That's a long time. I think the average life expectancy
Speaker 1: in the NFL is three years, maybe three and a half.
Speaker 1: Now blah blah blah blah blah blah blaa. Roethlisberger's thirty
Speaker 1: five years old. Um, when will his last season be? Greg,
Speaker 1: give me the year and we're gonna go around the horn. Greg,
Speaker 1: I will say, if they win the Super Bowl? Okay,
Speaker 1: Mark Oh, I thought you're gonna drop like a twenty
Speaker 1: line or something. Well, I think he's gonna play this season.
Speaker 1: He's gonna his his whole sort of act to try
Speaker 1: to get a lot of drama around owned this potential retirement.
Speaker 1: That was a complete flop. It didn't get the attention
Speaker 1: that he wanted it to. So let's try that again
Speaker 1: one more time. Whisper about it all season, and it's
Speaker 1: gonna get a little more traction this time. And Uh,
Speaker 1: that's what he wants. He just wants attention. Um, let's
Speaker 1: head over to the throne of ease. Uh, the Patriots,
Speaker 1: we'll no longer have Rob Nikovich in the building. Linebacker
Speaker 1: announced his retirement today after eleven seasons. You have been
Speaker 1: discussing this retirement with Belichick for some time. Thirty three
Speaker 1: years old, got a couple of rings. Nice job. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like a jag on some other teams went
Speaker 1: to the Patriots, collected a couple of rings. Now I
Speaker 1: was gonna collect a nice pension. Well, how about this.
Speaker 1: If you're the New Orleans Saints, where you're you're so
Speaker 1: concerned about co running a functional Pelicans franchise, you had
Speaker 1: this guy in your roster twice. You can't develop defensive players.
Speaker 1: He goes to New England. They learned how to develop him.
Speaker 1: I think he had quietly, very not even quietly so
Speaker 1: always like a productive player for the Patriots for a
Speaker 1: long time. And you can see how much he was
Speaker 1: loved too by the team because you had so many
Speaker 1: teammates and players and coaches that packed his press conference.
Speaker 1: I think like thirty of them did what what other?
Speaker 1: What other player is going to have? Bill Belichick sitting
Speaker 1: on the floor of his press conference, it was still crowded.
Speaker 1: Belichicks on the floor says he's never coached a more
Speaker 1: unselfish player than old Robbie Nikovich, who was their best
Speaker 1: defensive lineman a few years ago on a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: champion team. I mean that that counts. That counts a
Speaker 1: little bit for something I think has the most bumble
Speaker 1: recovers your forced fumbles of anyone this decade over. Dan's
Speaker 1: not even listening. It's a very nice career. It's a
Speaker 1: good career, great career. It's a rare time where you
Speaker 1: can say he went out on top. There's not many
Speaker 1: NFL players that go out on top. They go out
Speaker 1: with the title, and he did it in training camp.
Speaker 1: So there's all these people there, and there's forty teammates
Speaker 1: and rob crafted Belochick. It's like he had about as
Speaker 1: good a retirement as as anyone I can think of,
Speaker 1: um beginning at the end for that defense. And finally
Speaker 1: an odds and ends a retirement that maybe I'm a
Speaker 1: little more plugged in with my old man. Keith Hands
Speaker 1: is retired today. Congratulations. Started his career in nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 1: Did a little math? Oh no, um, are you still
Speaker 1: doing the math to two thousand, seventeen forty three years
Speaker 1: the workforce? Kidding, congratulate, gratulations. What a role model my
Speaker 1: dad is. What's he gonna do now? It's more time
Speaker 1: to be on the show, right to provide Jets expertise
Speaker 1: after their latest h people evanescent? Where's my dad at
Speaker 1: with the Jets? We'll hear from my dad as the
Speaker 1: season goes along. We had a good We had a
Speaker 1: nice drive up from from the beach Um in Jersey
Speaker 1: to Yankee Stadium during my vacation. And uh listen to
Speaker 1: the little w f A and uh job an ingo
Speaker 1: and um, we just we both kind of are on
Speaker 1: the same page that they just got to get get
Speaker 1: get things set up. Don't don't do anything stupid. Just
Speaker 1: get the kid in there at quarterback. Let's see what
Speaker 1: he can do. We're very upset about the David Harris move.
Speaker 1: We didn't like the Art Decker move. So we understand
Speaker 1: eyes are wide open about this Jets team and what
Speaker 1: a disaster it's gonna be. But I can tell you something.
Speaker 1: My dad, as as I just said, worked forty three years. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's been around a time or two. And uh, this
Speaker 1: isn't the first rebuild that my dad has witnessed, or
Speaker 1: is it mine? This one just is a little more
Speaker 1: painful because it's happening right now. Are the Are the
Speaker 1: co workers at the coal mine going to throw him
Speaker 1: a going away party? The going the go the party?
Speaker 1: You want to hear a little bit about what happens
Speaker 1: in the coleman? Uh? You just go up. You go
Speaker 1: to the pub down the street. What's the name of
Speaker 1: that pub? Do you know? We call it the Hotel
Speaker 1: Black Long. Yeah, the Black Lung Puff is the nickname.
Speaker 1: You do that one? Yeah? Um? And when you tossed
Speaker 1: back a few beers, a pat on the back, handful
Speaker 1: of peanuts, and a good hard day's work and then
Speaker 1: you go home to your wife, that's the that's the
Speaker 1: reward at no gold Watch. Why why isn't she it's
Speaker 1: rare that anyone makes it out of the coal minds alive.
Speaker 1: Usually they just die on the job. So that's why
Speaker 1: there's not a big to do with the retirement. Um anyway,
Speaker 1: So my dad retired, and congrats dad. Uh, that's what's
Speaker 1: happening in the news, and close out Connie and odds.
Speaker 1: It ends odds and ends. Hey, everybody tell your friends
Speaker 1: because it's odds and ends. Bomp the first one. First
Speaker 1: one's probably, but in a lot of way, Greg, some
Speaker 1: of that negativity you instilled in the critical first, I
Speaker 1: think if to throw off the second time around it did?
Speaker 1: I think it was good until the bomb you just
Speaker 1: get well. I didn't know again, I didn't know how
Speaker 1: long it was gonna go. And then I was like,
Speaker 1: I need to finish this out. Just lay out there
Speaker 1: and we all right, all right, we're gonna do the
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Speaker 1: that leads us to one little more bit of news. Folk.
Speaker 1: It makes me Weather McGregor looked like a landfill. A
Speaker 1: baby pew. Alright, here we go, Robert Roberto Aguayo, Nick Folk.
Speaker 1: We all know this story, the two Bucks kickers going
Speaker 1: at it. One of them will get a job, the
Speaker 1: other one will leave in disgrace. Uh. Folk, the free
Speaker 1: agent came over from the Jets. Uh and Oguio, the
Speaker 1: second round pick, Um who had a terrible first season.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're um anyway. After playing to
Speaker 1: a stalemate in the offseason practice portion of the calendar,
Speaker 1: on Sunday, they both go four for five, hit their
Speaker 1: first four kicks, both missed their fifth kick. Here's the
Speaker 1: Dirk Cutter had to say, Buck's coach, I had them
Speaker 1: both four out of five, but I'll be honest, I
Speaker 1: was watching the alignment up front. We'll get the tape.
Speaker 1: I thought they both missed their last one. Gay Folk,
Speaker 1: the biggest with hanger since that one episode of Friends
Speaker 1: when Rachel went to meet Ross at the airport after
Speaker 1: his work trip to China and was stunned to see
Speaker 1: Ross cuddling up to his new squeeze Julie. Moving on,
Speaker 1: let's talk about it now, Colleen. Um, we might even
Speaker 1: have to push the mailbag to next our next episode,
Speaker 1: because I think we need to have the proper amount
Speaker 1: of time to break down what's going on here? Um,
Speaker 1: what is going on here? Well, you can tell us,
Speaker 1: you can fill in the blank. So Colleen went to
Speaker 1: UH Raiders Camp on Saturday. You did the show with
Speaker 1: what did you do? With Michael Robinson and and uh
Speaker 1: and it was an eventful day for you. It was, yeah,
Speaker 1: memorable day. Yeah, it was my first day up at
Speaker 1: Raiders Camp, my first day hosting UH Inside Training Camp Live.
Speaker 1: So that was you know, it's a four hour show.
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on. Um. And Michael Robinson is
Speaker 1: friends with Marshawn Lynch, So before the show, he told us, Hey,
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're going to be able to
Speaker 1: get him or not. You know, he's kind of a
Speaker 1: wild card, as you guys know, So you know, let's
Speaker 1: just kind of play things by ear. So Marshawn and
Speaker 1: I mean, we all know that m Rob didn't say that,
Speaker 1: but that's sort of that's sort of what he was
Speaker 1: getting at. Um. Yeah, So m Rob didn't get a
Speaker 1: chance to say what's up to Marshawn before we were
Speaker 1: on the show, and so Marshawn came over and before
Speaker 1: I mean before we were on the air. There was
Speaker 1: a lot of things that were said that would not
Speaker 1: have been able to have been aired on the show.
Speaker 1: So we were, you know, like just some colorful Marshawn things. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is a podcast, it's not the same stringent rules
Speaker 1: as like TV. You can share. It was a colorfully
Speaker 1: off color is that what you're saying? Yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of f bombs, sailors language, yes, Uh
Speaker 1: so the topics general up, Yeah, he was not really.
Speaker 1: It was just more of like a Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Are we doing this? Can we do it now? Blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. Like So we came back from break and
Speaker 1: scrapped everything we were going to do and Marshawn basically
Speaker 1: just wanted to say what's up to Michael Robinson on
Speaker 1: the air and not talk about football at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so let's let's pick it up from there. We have
Speaker 1: the actual audio footage, and we can kind of a prouder.
Speaker 1: This uh, one of the most one of the biggest
Speaker 1: moments of Colleen Fox's career, I think, so far in
Speaker 1: terms of coverage, in terms of media coverage. If you
Speaker 1: do a Google search, people who were buzzing about this encounter,
Speaker 1: huh start this, this is it. They're right there. What's
Speaker 1: up man? Television? You can't say that on TV? But
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't go before I came over here,
Speaker 1: I know, and I love you for that. Alright, So,
Speaker 1: first of all, what's going on at this point in
Speaker 1: your mind? And are people going nuts in the earpiece where?
Speaker 1: No that No, I hear nothing in my ear piece
Speaker 1: at all. Um. And I was like, oh God, oh god,
Speaker 1: is he going to start saying the things that he
Speaker 1: was just saying a minute ago before we were all
Speaker 1: in the air. I really want to know what that was. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: it was just, you know, just stuff that people would
Speaker 1: probably get fired for. Um. Okay, so a president would
Speaker 1: call it locker room talk. Yeah, I guess so, I
Speaker 1: guess you're right, some locker room talk. Um. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: at this point, I'm thinking, oh my god, I have
Speaker 1: no idea how this is going to go. And Marshawn
Speaker 1: is basically controlling this whole thing, so he's going to
Speaker 1: dictate what happens here, and he might just like walk away.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know if he was going to stay
Speaker 1: or not. Okay, let's let's continue on. But look, though
Speaker 1: it was good talk about being back in Oakland, man,
Speaker 1: what's up with I do nothing? But how do you
Speaker 1: feel about being back in the city running this football?
Speaker 1: Look right now, Look, and I just told you I
Speaker 1: don't run on the huddle and mess up huddle. So
Speaker 1: I'm trying to ask you a question that people want
Speaker 1: to know different. So at this point, Michael Robinson is
Speaker 1: taking Marshahn Lynch's face and turning it back towards his
Speaker 1: face and telling him to focus and answer the question.
Speaker 1: And then that's why he's saying, Look, I don't run
Speaker 1: on the field and mess with your job like you're
Speaker 1: kind of doing with mine right now. Because you were
Speaker 1: supposed to do this interview and now you're just up
Speaker 1: here chit chatting and trying to holler, and you you're
Speaker 1: now in your mind, I would assume, searching. How are
Speaker 1: you going to insert yourself into the conversation in a
Speaker 1: way to help get things under control. So we're not
Speaker 1: necessarily insert myself in the conversation, but try and maybe
Speaker 1: get us back on track a little bit here. But
Speaker 1: also m Rob and him are boys, and m Rob's
Speaker 1: store of is trying to get him back on track himself.
Speaker 1: So I'm sort of sitting back. But also I have
Speaker 1: some things in my back pocket ready to go, and
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting things like this. I come over here
Speaker 1: for nothing. I came over here to highlight my dog
Speaker 1: and his pana. How's it feel to be back on
Speaker 1: the team. It's cool. You're gonna do the normal thing, right,
Speaker 1: I asked questions about all them. No, we can talk
Speaker 1: about your soul food restaurant that you bought. That's my
Speaker 1: job breaking like a big mouth band. But listen, I
Speaker 1: like so when I saw that, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he got so that's our first date to the Oh
Speaker 1: no money, I'm sorry, you can't very nice? Thank you?
Speaker 1: Look at your ring? I should make that clear, yes, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he picked out my hand and was looking at my ring.
Speaker 1: Um so yeah, I I don't know what to say
Speaker 1: about this. It was the most awkward thing that's ever
Speaker 1: happened to me on live television, and a lot of
Speaker 1: times these things happen in locker rooms when you're not
Speaker 1: on television, and so you guys just got to witness
Speaker 1: how awkward it actually is. And to be honest, I
Speaker 1: was kind of like, for a second, I forgot that
Speaker 1: we were even on television, and I was like just
Speaker 1: trying to deflect and move on and get him to
Speaker 1: move off of the subject. Entirely. You handled it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just say like, because there were a myriad of
Speaker 1: reactions that you could decide to have, and like you
Speaker 1: just handled it about as perfectly as one could hope for.
Speaker 1: I cannot imagine that it was a very comfortable situation
Speaker 1: at all. No, all right, let's hear the rest of it.
Speaker 1: So we will not be dating, going on a date
Speaker 1: to the restaurant. Question a little extra just because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna charge him a little bit, Would you want to
Speaker 1: get back to this community that's like a case of emergency.
Speaker 1: Asked about the clanity place life man, you know we
Speaker 1: could see him. John was like, I can't charge us
Speaker 1: extra for everybody. We can't chop it up. Like so
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, But is everybody good though, You're good.
Speaker 1: We're good. Good, We're good. You go ahead and do
Speaker 1: your thing. Thank you, appreciate all right, thanks to al Right,
Speaker 1: I can't listen to it again. You handled that very well.
Speaker 1: Uh what was your husband, John Gonzalez? What was his
Speaker 1: What was his reaction to John Renald Gonzaza Sports twelve
Speaker 1: nine is an American sports writer. Was married NFL meda
Speaker 1: broadcaster College woolf John, who was a pices, resides in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles with his wife and two dogs. Yeah, I'm shocked.
Speaker 1: Marjehn Lynch also didn't know who John Gonzalez is. But
Speaker 1: John was like, wait a minute, He's going to charge
Speaker 1: us extra to go to his restaurant. Now that's his
Speaker 1: primary concerns. Yes, it was. It was a chance. It
Speaker 1: was a chance to drop in, who is John gonzalaz
Speaker 1: drop if they were really on top of things in
Speaker 1: the productions. That's true. Yeah, yeah, a little bit of
Speaker 1: a missed opportunity. Uck Um. I think first of all,
Speaker 1: I will say this, when this happened, Uh, we were
Speaker 1: we were texting about it, and you know, I think
Speaker 1: it was like kind of like the big brother thing.
Speaker 1: So we're all kind of like, wait, is he being
Speaker 1: not cool with Colleen? But I think like you had
Speaker 1: the right like like outlook on it, and you just
Speaker 1: dealt with it very well, much better than I would.
Speaker 1: I also, why, how what would you have done? I
Speaker 1: would have said, how dare you? And slapped him in
Speaker 1: the like a white glove on the white satin glove.
Speaker 1: And and Gonzo has as a good attitude about it too,
Speaker 1: because I feel like I maybe would have been filled
Speaker 1: with some type of rage uh that I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to process naturally. But Gonzo is a laid back dude,
Speaker 1: Philadelphia guy that's very he's taken to southern California. He's
Speaker 1: he like all of us, has flaws, and one of
Speaker 1: those is not confidence, Like he has a ton of
Speaker 1: confidence and things like that does not Yeah, yeah he was.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, I had my phone
Speaker 1: next to me on the chair and it just kept
Speaker 1: buzzing and buzzing and buzzing. Yeah. I was wondering. I
Speaker 1: was wondering if you were thinking after that. I just
Speaker 1: want this to I don't want I don't want attention
Speaker 1: for this. I don't want attention for someone hitting on me.
Speaker 1: I didn't go into my mentions or anything. I just
Speaker 1: that my mentions at that point were dead and I
Speaker 1: had to just move on. What what was helpful to
Speaker 1: you was that NFL Network and the NFL's Twitter account
Speaker 1: went nuts retweeting the entire episode like there's another nuance
Speaker 1: or element to this. I know. Yeah, that was very awkward. Well,
Speaker 1: you're a pro. It was a great first day. Really
Speaker 1: ripped the band aid off there. I mean, unless this
Speaker 1: happens for every single time you go out to camp,
Speaker 1: I think that you've already basically hit the biggest type
Speaker 1: of challenges how to handle a lot. I hope, Well
Speaker 1: that would be wonderful. That was the biggest challenge. I'll
Speaker 1: be at Archer's tomorrow and RAMS the next day, so
Speaker 1: there's only one marshaw so but if he keeps showing up,
Speaker 1: I know, well, I'm going back up to Raiders camp
Speaker 1: next week and I'm gonna be with Michael Robinson again.
Speaker 1: And I'm really kind of worried about that you should
Speaker 1: wear like a brown wig with like big glasses. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna wear a bag. It's fine, all right. Well,
Speaker 1: there you go, A nice, nice breakdown of quite an encounter. Colleen. Yes,
Speaker 1: and on our next show Wednesday, we will finally get
Speaker 1: deeper into the Miko grime situation. I don't believe I'll
Speaker 1: be here on Wednesday. Perfect opportunity. Well, we're gonna be
Speaker 1: a camp together, right, Look at that, So Greg, I
Speaker 1: want you to look out for Colleen in case somebody
Speaker 1: starts to get a little too too frisky as well.
Speaker 1: Greg's gonna be my muscle. Yeah. If you want someone
Speaker 1: next to you to ward off any hulking n it's
Speaker 1: me watch out. Um, we will be back on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Wednesday is our our videos show, of course, so you
Speaker 1: can check it out at NFL dot com slash a
Speaker 1: t N video. Um and yes, three shows this week,
Speaker 1: so very exciting and um, that's it. Anything else to say?
Speaker 1: I think that's It feels like the show has been
Speaker 1: going off for about undred and fourteen minutes. If we
Speaker 1: don't get off the air, we're gonna get in that range.
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, So we'll be back on Wednesday and
Speaker 1: then again on Friday, and who knows, on Wednesday, Mark
Speaker 1: might have the subreddit uh six thousand listener plan all
Speaker 1: devised by then. Very excited, totally fatal move by you.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to lift a finger on this front.
Speaker 1: I have too many other things to deal with, all right,
Speaker 1: fair enough, that's gonna be a great pride, all right,
Speaker 1: this Dan and signing off four very busy by its storm.
Speaker 1: Connie Fox not ninety box, the Old Boss and Slide
Speaker 1: behind the Glass Wednesday,