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Speaker 2: Now, this is what killed the Detroit Lions. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: how is your week? What's up?

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Andy?

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Speaker 4: Big week? Great week?

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Speaker 3: We got the in between week where we got Pro

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Speaker 3: Bowl just before Super Bowl, so I'm excited. I was

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Speaker 3: excited to watch the championship games last week, but I'm

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Speaker 3: looking forward to Super Bowl fifty eight.

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Speaker 2: Right, and before we get there, I got something good

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Speaker 2: off my chest. It's enough. It's gonna stop. It's gonna stop, right,

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Speaker 2: he is gonna stop now. I'm tired of it. I'm

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Speaker 2: tired of it. I'm tired of the bashing of one

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell. Maybe I'm too close, maybe I lie them

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Speaker 2: too much, but the Detroit Lions. They led the forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers by about fourteen points midway through the third

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Speaker 2: quarter of that NFC Championship game, and they were in

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Speaker 2: a position really to open it up, put their foot

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Speaker 2: on their chest and really win that ball game. They

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Speaker 2: all had to do is go for a field goal.

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Speaker 2: That's when Campbell made the decision that really, to very

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Speaker 2: many people kind of defy traditional football thinking. They went

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Speaker 2: for a fourth down, they didn't get it. Then they

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Speaker 2: proceeded to blow their shirt at the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 2: everybody and anybody jumping on the freaking bandwagon to bury

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Speaker 2: coach Dan Campbell. And I'm tired. I'm tired of hearing it.

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Speaker 2: I'm tired all about it. I don't want to hear

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Speaker 2: it anymore. It stops here, stops now. In the second half,

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Speaker 2: the Lions twice turned the ball over on downs. They

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Speaker 2: were a position, obviously to kick field goals. Then those

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Speaker 2: decisions caught them the six points and they lost the

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Speaker 2: game by three. And you know what, this is what

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Speaker 2: basically got them to that game, all right, It's analytics.

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Speaker 2: That's what Dan Campbell follows it by. It's not from

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Speaker 2: his gut, it's analytics. I want to know what you

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Speaker 2: have to say about that. I'm tired of the Dan Campbell,

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Speaker 2: all week long dashing of coach Campbell.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, I think he deserves to be criticized.

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Speaker 3: I mean, anytime you have a seventeen point lead at

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Speaker 3: the halftime of a championship game, you expected to win

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Speaker 3: the game. And I think people are so critical over

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Speaker 3: his decisions in those moments is because it was a

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Speaker 3: fourteen point lead, you had a reasonable field goal that

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Speaker 3: would have kept at a three score game. It was

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Speaker 3: only twenty two minutes. At some point, as the head coach,

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Speaker 3: you're not only playing the opponent, you're playing the clock game,

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Speaker 3: and a three score lead with twenty two minutes seems insurmountable.

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Speaker 3: But by going forward and not getting it and then

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Speaker 3: allowing them to score and then you have a turnover

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Speaker 3: a game that was under your control, it now becomes

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Speaker 3: an even Stephen contest and one that you just couldn't

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Speaker 3: the conversation is when it comes to analytics and being

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Speaker 3: aggressive and all those things, like, yes, analytics are great,

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Speaker 3: my team look like? How is momentum kind of being

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Speaker 3: a part of this environment? And right now, the analytics

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Speaker 3: community has no thought for that. They're just like go go, go,

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Speaker 3: go go. Everything is aggressive, and sometimes even if it's

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Speaker 3: a minuscule increase and win probability, sometimes the better decision

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Speaker 3: has played a little more traditional.

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Speaker 2: I'm hearing you with both ears. Has no doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: But here's the deal. I don't think anybody should have

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Speaker 2: been shocked. And that's why I'm really upset about the

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Speaker 2: bashing of Dan Cambell because that's what he did all

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Speaker 2: year long. This is not something he just pulled out

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Speaker 2: I mean, he did this all ye long. They were

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Speaker 2: it was fourth and two. Obvious choice, old school would

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Speaker 2: have gone for the field goal. He didn't, okay, and

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Speaker 2: he missed. Then despite the outcome, look, I'm saying that

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Speaker 2: it wasn't a gut decision. It was data, it was analytics,

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Speaker 2: and I looked up this model. The one popular model

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Speaker 2: So I wasn't surprised and I kind of liked that

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Speaker 2: and they go for the field goal. He's a freaking hero.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: That is just the way it goes.

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Speaker 4: That is the way it goes.

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Speaker 3: But what pains me is what he said, and I

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Speaker 3: think he faced the reality of it at the end

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Speaker 3: of it. He knows it's no guarantee that the Lions

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Speaker 3: the Lions had an opportunity to go to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: The Lions had the game under control, the lines were

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Speaker 3: of the decisions that they made, and I will say this,

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Speaker 3: But the job as the coach is to find a

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Speaker 3: he unfortunately didn't do that and the gambles not only

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Speaker 3: there's no guarantee. Think about the Niners losing to the

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Speaker 3: get back to that moment. It just doesn't happen. And

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Speaker 3: you know, I just feel bad for the fans because, look, man,

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Speaker 3: the Lions outplayed the forty nine ers on that data

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, and I think that he kind of

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Speaker 2: sums it up tremendously because I live in the Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: the super Bowl. They didn't even make the playoffs. You

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Speaker 2: don't know what's gonna happen. Injuries are a factor, and

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Speaker 2: But I love what Dan Campbell said after the ball

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Speaker 2: game last week, quote, I don't regret those decisions. I

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Speaker 2: understand the scrutiny, he said, I'll get it, no problem.

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Speaker 2: That's part of the gig. And look, those calls that

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Speaker 2: for the Detroit Lions under Dan Campbell. Detroit attempted forty

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Speaker 2: fourth down conversions this year, the second most in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: All right, and there willingness, obviously was to lay it

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Speaker 2: That's Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 3: He did it.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know why everybody's jumping on me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I hear you. You know he's gonna be under scrutiny.

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Speaker 2: I get it because people would have said, we, oh,

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Speaker 2: if you would have done this. But that's the way

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Speaker 2: he played. That's what got them there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, his aggressive has got him there. But

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Speaker 3: and he there's no correlation between you. How you do

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Speaker 3: things in one game doesn't necessarily relate to how you

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Speaker 3: he's been ultra aggressive, he's been look on the edge

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Speaker 3: in terms of going forward trying to do it, and

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Speaker 3: his team knows that. I'm just saying, when you do

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Speaker 4: He's a big boy, he can handle it.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's everybody's right to look and say, man,

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Speaker 3: these situations. And I'm not saying that a forty seven

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Speaker 3: he had missed, the field goal would have been like, man,

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Speaker 3: maybe he should have gone for who knows. But I

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Speaker 4: Not how they like to play.

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Speaker 3: And so I think for Campbell, you know, he did it,

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Speaker 3: he did what he's always done, but he certainly has

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Speaker 2: I find this could be very interesting next year, the

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Speaker 2: kind of play he handles, what kind of coach he becomes.

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Speaker 2: Will he change his coaching tactics after this game? Will

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Speaker 2: he be not the riverboat gambler that he has been

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Speaker 2: little bit, become a little more conservative. That's what I

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Speaker 2: want to see. What happens to the Detroit Lions under

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell next year.

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Speaker 3: Nah, that's a big thing because here's the issue, and

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Speaker 3: it's the issue they kind of caught over with Brandon Staley.

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Speaker 3: Brandon Staley listened to all the noise and change, so

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Speaker 3: he wasn't as convicted in the decisions that he made.

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Speaker 3: He allowed the outside noise to sway his opinion, and

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Speaker 3: ultimately he wasn't as good of a coach because he

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Speaker 3: changed for Dan Campbell. If this is what you believe,

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Speaker 3: and then you stick to your guns and you live

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Speaker 3: with those decisions in good times in bad times. So

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Speaker 3: for him, he should just look ow it a didn't

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Speaker 3: go our way, But the next time it'll go our way,

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Speaker 3: and I'll continue to do what it is. Stubborness sometimes

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Speaker 2: You know, I kind of liked the comments by media

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Speaker 2: people about Dan Campbell, but I kind of look at

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Speaker 2: them and I flush them down the toilet. I don't

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Speaker 2: believe that, But I did like the comment that former

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Speaker 2: coach Jimmy Johnson had to say, and he says, analytics

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Speaker 2: don't really consider if your left guard has been getting

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Speaker 2: destroyed throughout the game by the defensive tackle. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: seem to compute that the number two receiver has dropped

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Speaker 2: one has ever brought up. Yeah, analytics will tell you,

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Speaker 2: you know, specifically, what might happen on that play, but

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Speaker 2: they don't tell you what's happening during that game with

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Speaker 3: No, it doesn't. And so that's the only thing is

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Speaker 2: podcast this week, The Up and Adams Show, and I

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Speaker 2: was listening to that and he said, you try to

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Speaker 2: study as much as you can. You try to anticipate routes.

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Speaker 2: This is what Keithley said. He runs normal routes. He

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Speaker 2: runs phades like the back shoulder ball clut against the

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Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens. But nothing he does is truly on script.

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Speaker 2: So he can come out, find the window, move out

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Speaker 2: of the window. He has a feed in to find

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Speaker 2: space and sit down. How do you stop Travis Kelcey?

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Speaker 2: That's the key? What do you do? Bucky Brooks?

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Speaker 3: Look man? I think that's the million the other question. Ultimately,

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Speaker 3: that's one of the biggest keys to the game. Kene

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Speaker 3: of forty nine ers, slow down Travis Kelcey. What's interesting

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Speaker 3: about like everyone struggles with Travis Kelcey is coming into

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Speaker 3: the postseason.

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Speaker 4: You knew that he was the number one with target

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Speaker 4: on offense.

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Speaker 3: You also know that he is the one that Pat

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Speaker 3: Mahomes trusts in clus situations. Teams have not played a

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Speaker 3: lot of man de man on them, and if they

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Speaker 3: have played Manda Man. They refuse to double team him

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Speaker 3: to completely take him out of the game. I'm curious

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Speaker 3: what Steve Wilks would do. They play some Manda Man,

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Speaker 3: but they have him been crazy. When it comes to

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Speaker 3: how they go about it, will they be creative enough

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Speaker 3: to just say, Hey, we are going to eliminate eighty seven.

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Speaker 4: We're going to double team.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna let the world know that he's double team

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Speaker 3: and Pat Mahomes. You're going to have to find someone

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Speaker 3: else that can beat us, and if you do that,

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Speaker 3: we'll live with it that way.

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Speaker 4: But I think the forty nine ers have to.

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Speaker 3: Make a concerted effort to double team them, to bump them,

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Speaker 3: to disrupt the timing of the releases and those things,

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Speaker 3: and force Pat Mahomes to throw the ball elsewhere. That

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Speaker 3: is the only way you can do it, because, as

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Speaker 3: Luke Keighley alluded to, his.

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Speaker 4: Routes are freelance routes.

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Speaker 3: He has the freedom just to kind of move and

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Speaker 3: get open and do whatever he wants to do to

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Speaker 3: find open grass. Look, the whiteboard doesn't have anything that

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Speaker 3: you can do for that. So that's why you got

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Speaker 3: to put two guys on him and not allow him

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Speaker 3: to breathe.

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Speaker 2: You know, the next game I coach in the NFL

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Speaker 2: or coach period will be my first. All right, So

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Speaker 2: what I'm listening with Luke Keigley had to say, and honestly,

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Speaker 2: I think like I could have said the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you what he said. Since you

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Speaker 2: got to keep your eyes on Travis, all right, I

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Speaker 2: think that's normal. I would have said that. So you

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Speaker 2: can't take your eyes off them, you put them on

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Speaker 2: my Homes. If it comes out of a break, you

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Speaker 2: think it's a typical out route, you put your eyes

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Speaker 2: back to the quarterback and then lose sight of Kelsey.

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Speaker 2: And then once you lose sight of him, Mahomes knows

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Speaker 2: that Cole Kelsey knows that now he's going to pivot

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Speaker 2: and he's going to get open. I mean the first

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Speaker 2: part I could have told you that keep your eyes

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Speaker 2: on him, you know, maybe even double team him. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, what do you do? I mean, And all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, now he's come alive in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, was it because he was somewhat criticized or

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Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. He's like a different player now.

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Speaker 4: Critical situation.

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Speaker 3: So the reason why he's come alive is because Andy

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Speaker 3: Reid does what most good coaches do in the playoffs

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Speaker 3: and in critical moments, it's about players, not plays, And

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Speaker 3: so Andy Reid during the time that they had prepping

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Speaker 3: for the playoffs, he's like, who are my best players?

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Speaker 3: My job is to make sure I put him in

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Speaker 3: a position where they can have the biggest impact on

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Speaker 3: the game. How can I get them the ball over

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Speaker 3: and over and over again, because if I give great

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Speaker 3: players opportunities, those opportunities will turn the wins for us

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Speaker 3: because they can tilt the field. Now, what you have

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Speaker 3: to do is you got to figure out how to

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Speaker 3: how to throw that off, how to disrupt the timing

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Speaker 3: of the passing game, how to make him go elsewhere,

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Speaker 3: meaning Pat Mahomes go elsewhere away from eighty seven. And

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Speaker 3: that's look, that's easier said than done. When there's a

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Speaker 3: connection that Pat Mahomes and Travis Kelcey have like they have,

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Speaker 3: he is going to throw the ball to his guy

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Speaker 3: because he believes his guys better than anybody that they

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Speaker 3: put opposite him. And so some of those things are

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Speaker 3: just eighty seven is better than everybody else.

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Speaker 2: He certainly is. Now you have people are kind of questioning,

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Speaker 2: why are they asking lou Keigley about this situation? Just

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Speaker 2: for the record, right now, Keighley had some success against

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Speaker 2: Kelsey in his career. During Keighley's eight seasons in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: he played from twelve to nineteen, all came with the

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Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers. He faced Travis Kelsey only one time, and

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Speaker 2: that was in twenty sixteen. The Chiefs tight end was

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Speaker 2: held to just three catches for thirty one yards. The

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Speaker 2: reception total was the third lowest of the season for

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey. His yardage total was the fourth. So if

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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers hold Kelsey to three catches to

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Speaker 2: thirty one yards, they'll probably filled pretty good of winning

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. And that's gonna be pretty hard to do.

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Speaker 2: Be hard to do, No, it's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna bet it's gonna be hard to do. I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying that they can get it done, but it's

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Speaker 3: one of the things that you have to make sure

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Speaker 3: you minimize his impact on the game. You cannot allow

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Speaker 3: him to be the reason why the ken Cidy Chiefs win.

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Speaker 3: If they win because other people play well, that's one thing,

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Speaker 3: but you can't allow yourself to get beat with the

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Speaker 3: right hand. Like made them throw the jab, made them

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Speaker 3: throw the hook, make somebody else, but do not get

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Speaker 3: beat by the heavy handed knockout blow.

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Speaker 4: And so you have two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Steve Wolks and that coaching staff they got to cook

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Speaker 3: something up so that he can limit and neutralize his impact.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna run this by you as a player,

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna use the term forma player. You're a

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Speaker 2: player no matter what it is as a player. To me,

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Speaker 2: I'd rather get beat by a great player like Travis

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Speaker 2: Kelcey that have a second stringer and also ran a

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Speaker 2: guy that really came out of nowhere to beat me.

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Speaker 2: I mean, either at the end of the game, you know,

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Speaker 2: the reporters come in and to talk to you, say,

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Speaker 2: you know what we lost to a that a team

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Speaker 2: you lost to a great player, Travis Kelcey, we lost

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Speaker 2: to Mahomes. I don't want to lose to a guy

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Speaker 2: who hadn't done anything all of a sudden he's out

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Speaker 2: there is not a good logic to be I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'd rather lose to Kelsey than to some guy who's

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Speaker 2: who doesn't do anything. You just happen to have a

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Speaker 2: great game.

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Speaker 3: He said, you would rather let Kelsey go off. You'd

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Speaker 3: rather lose to Kelsey.

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Speaker 2: Here's the guy I mean, don't you. I mean you

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Speaker 2: want a key on the guy.

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Speaker 3: But you want to take the guy away. No, no,

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Speaker 3: you want to take the guy away. You want to

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Speaker 3: do whatever it takes to take the guy away. Make

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Speaker 3: somebody else step up, because in those moments, everybody's not

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Speaker 3: capable of being the guy. There's a reason why there's

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Speaker 3: a difference between guys who are recognized as the number

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Speaker 3: one receiver and guys that are the number two's and

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Speaker 3: all of those things. Everyone is not built to handle

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Speaker 3: the pressure of the responsibilities that come with that. Meaning

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Speaker 3: you got to step up, you got to deliver at

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Speaker 3: all times. When a guy's clearly established himself as a

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Speaker 3: number one, a guy who is a multiple time All Pro,

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Speaker 3: a future Hall of Famer, now you don't want him

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Speaker 3: to get loose. You want to bottle him up and

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Speaker 3: make somebody else have to play above their draft status

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Speaker 3: or their playgread like, make somebody else do it, And

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Speaker 3: a lot of times other guys are incapable of doing it.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm buying that. I agree now, and now

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Speaker 2: you've told me the right way, I'm hearing you, all right,

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Speaker 2: Because like in basketball, I'd rather lose if Lebron puts

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Speaker 2: in fifty or Steph Curry puts in sixty like he

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Speaker 2: did last night, because those guys are great players and

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Speaker 2: they're gonna go off on you rather than some guy

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Speaker 2: coming off the bench and scoring thirty five. You know

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Speaker 2: that's about to do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see that.

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Speaker 3: I think basketball can be a little different because if

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Speaker 3: you're talking about the best player, sometimes you will sing

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Speaker 3: up the best player and say, hey man, you go

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Speaker 3: for yours. But I'm not going to give anybody else

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Speaker 3: an opportunity to get busy. I think a lot of

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Speaker 3: it depends on how good are those how good is

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Speaker 3: the supporting cast. I think we all can look at

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Speaker 3: the kans City Chief supporting cast and say that there's

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Speaker 3: a huge difference between how Travis Kelce produces and how

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Speaker 3: the rest of those guys produced. Because Rice Raschei, Rice

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Speaker 3: is the only other receiver that really gives you kind

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Speaker 3: of like pause when it comes to like, Okay, he's

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Speaker 3: been good enough, he's been consistent enough. But this is

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Speaker 3: a team that led the league in drops. You know,

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Speaker 3: so Tay Travis Kelcey away. Unlet's see if these guys

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Speaker 3: can just catch the ball consistently enough to win games.

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Speaker 3: So that's some of the stuff that goes into the

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Speaker 3: tactic or strategy of let's take Kelsey away because the

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Speaker 3: other guys have not proven themselves to be good enough

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Speaker 3: to be able to do it on their own.

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Speaker 2: I hear what you saying, or he's Bucky Brooks. Get

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Speaker 2: him on Twitter at Bucky Brooks. Had Andy Furman FSR

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Speaker 2: eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven

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Speaker 2: nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Now one is

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Speaker 2: stronger than two. That's coming up next on Fox Live

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Speaker 2: for the tiraq dot com studios. But first our guy

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Speaker 2: Kevin Wyatt with all your sports. Yeah, it was a

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Speaker 2: big night in the NBA on Saturday. If you're a

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Speaker 2: fan of offense. We had several players make it rain

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Speaker 2: across the league. Steph Curry sixty points on Saturday night,

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Speaker 2: but the Golden State Warriors unable to beat the Atlanta

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Speaker 2: Hawks as they've fallen over time one forty one to

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Speaker 2: one thirty four. The Sacramento Kings get forty one points

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Speaker 2: from the Aaron Fox as they beat the Chicago Bulls

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Speaker 2: won twenty three one point fifteen. Cam Thomas had forty

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Speaker 2: points as the Nets take down the seventy six ers

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Speaker 2: won thirty six one twenty one Giannis with forty eight points.

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Speaker 2: The Bucks were to come from behind victory against the

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Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks one twenty nine one to seventeen. Donovan Mitchell

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Speaker 2: thirty one points for the Cavaliers. Cleveland has now won

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Speaker 2: five straight games, including a one to seventeen one to

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Speaker 2: one win at the San Antonio Spurs. The New York

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Speaker 2: Knicks winning streak is over at nine games, the Lakers

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Speaker 2: ending it with a one thirteen one oh five win

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Speaker 2: at Madison Square Garden. In the college ranks, we had

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Speaker 2: several rake matchups on Southaturday, including the Big rivalry on

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Speaker 2: Tobacco Road Duke in Carolina, the third ranked tar Heels

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Speaker 2: over the number seven Blue Devils ninety three eighty four

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Speaker 2: over In the Big twelve, it's number eight Kansas taken

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Speaker 2: down the fourth ranked Houston Cougars seventy eight sixty five,

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Speaker 2: Number eighteen Bailer over number twelve Iowa State seventy sixty

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Speaker 2: eight as the Bears win it on a late jumper

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Speaker 2: and number fifteen Texas Tech upset by Cincinnati seventy five

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Speaker 2: seventy two. The SEC Top ten matchup number five Tennessee

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Speaker 2: winners at number ten Kentucky one oh three ninety two

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Speaker 2: and number seventeen Utah taken down by San Diego State

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Speaker 2: eighty one sixty seven. And in the NFL, we won

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Speaker 2: a piece of injury news taking place last night as

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00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: a Chiefs running back Jerck McKinnon designated to return from

651
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: injury reserve by the Chiefs, so we'll see what his

652
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: availability will be for the Super Bowl. Back to you guys,

653
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, keV. You know I'm really interested to

654
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: know why. And look, it's not a big deal in

655
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 2: my part, but how the NHL All Star Game never

656
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: even gets mentioned. The NHL, honestly, is like you talk

657
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: about a sport that gets no recognition, no conversation whatsoever

658
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: in sports talk radio, and that's you know, I'm not

659
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: gonna do it, no one else is gonna do it.

660
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: I just don't understand what their problem is. I mean, really,

661
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: they've been around the long time, and I know when

662
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: I was growing up as a kid in New York City,

663
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: every Sunday night, the New York Rangers would play in

664
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: Madison Square guard and I'd go. I'd see guys like

665
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: roger'll Bear, Andy Bathgate comp Worsley was a goalkeeper. I

666
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 2: go all the time as a kid, and like now,

667
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: I mean, no one talks about it. Do you have

668
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: any reason why? Maybe, Bucky, you could throw that out too.

669
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: NHL nothing, even soccer gets more play, women's college basketball

670
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: gets more played, Like last night, I'm watching Caitlin Clark

671
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: a little bit from Iowa. Why is that? Tell me?

672
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 7: At least from our perspective here in Los Angeles, we

673
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 7: don't grow up with snow and ice, so it's a

674
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 7: very Nis sport.

675
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: Well, you had Gretzky for a while.

676
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 7: Yes, we did have. Granted I was a little young

677
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 7: to appreciate having him, but yeah, like it's a very

678
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 7: Nis sport out here in Los Angeles. Was because we

679
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 7: don't have like the lakes, the ones that we do

680
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 7: have don't freeze over in the winter. There's no ice

681
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 7: that's not outside.

682
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: Well here, you say, bucket, any comments on the NHL.

683
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: I mean no, I just think I just think it

684
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: hasn't resonated, like from a viewing perspective, and then when

685
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 3: you know, like they're not consistently on TV, I think

686
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 3: it's kind of hard to follow, like you have to

687
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: intentionally go looking for it. It's not in our face

688
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: as much as like football and basketball and those things.

689
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 4: I think it's a.

690
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: Big gambling it's hard to gamble on the number one

691
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: that hurts it. I think it's too fast for TV,

692
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: and I think it's viewed as many people in the

693
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: US of A think it's a foreign sport. It's Canadian sport.

694
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: Maybybe those are the reasons why.

695
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 8: I don't know.

696
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: I think another reason maybe announcers can't pronounce their names.

697
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: They can't pronounce the hockey players' names, so maybe that's it.

698
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, So we move on. That's just a thought,

699
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: all right, I don't know. We move on. Okay. We

700
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: got asked Bucky in about six seven minutes from now.

701
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: But look, this is a big story right now, and

702
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: I don't know where it's going. But the Big ten

703
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: in the SEC, they form the joints Adversary group of

704
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: university presidents, chancellors, athletic directors to address the significant challenges

705
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: facing college athletics. And we know the SEC is going

706
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: to welcome Oklahoma and Texas this summer. The Big Ten's

707
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: gonna add Oregon, Washington, USC, UCLA from the PAC twelve,

708
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: which is on the verge of collapsing. Okay, there's a

709
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: lot of problems, and Rick Patino even addressed it yesterday

710
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: Connecticut was playing Saint John's in Madison Square Garden. After

711
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: the game, he was talking about how this NIL is

712
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: certainly killing. Maybe college athletics coaches aren't happy with it,

713
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: and they got to do some changing, they really do.

714
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: There's a there's a calendar for recruiting. It's kind of

715
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: messed up, and you know, it's just crazy and something's

716
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: gonna happen. I don't think the NCAA flow will be

717
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: this way. So what do you what's your take on this? Now,

718
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: with the SEC and the Big Ten, it looks like

719
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: they're gonna emerge and they're gonna have like thirty two

720
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: of the biggest colleges in the nation maybe under one umbrella,

721
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: one conference.

722
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: Look, I mean, I think is great that they're coming together.

723
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 3: I think there's so many factors that are impacting the

724
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: way college sports are. It's not only in IL, it's

725
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: the portal, it's the dates, that the players can jump

726
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: in and out of the portal, which make it very

727
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: difficult for continuity. There's so much bouncing around that it's

728
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: sorrdy to keep up with your favorite teams. And then look,

729
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: as much as we talk about the players bounce around,

730
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: we got coaches leaving at the last minute. We just

731
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: had Boston College's coach, Jeff Athlete, just leave in February,

732
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: Like I mean, these guys have already locked in with

733
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: signing dates and all this other stuff, and this got

734
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: leaves to go to a thing. I think college football

735
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: is in flux because there's so much transition, there's so

736
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 3: much movement, and the games that we love, there was

737
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: that kind of the loyalty in terms of like knowing

738
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: these guys are going to be around for a while,

739
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,239
Speaker 3: and now you don't have that players or coaches that

740
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: are guaranteed to be there from one year to the next.

741
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: It's hard to follow a product when you have so

742
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: much uncertainty.

743
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: No no doubt about it.

744
00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 9: Now.

745
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: Athletes college athletes right now, they're basically on the cusp

746
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: of securing the freedom to transfer as many times as

747
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: they want. That to me is nuts, Okay, but the

748
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: NCAA is cracking down the use of NIL as a

749
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: recruiting inducement and as being sued. They're going to court

750
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: right now for doing this. So in other words, I

751
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: could be a high school senior, a four star athlete,

752
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: and some guy coming over to me from college XYZ

753
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: and is gonna give me a blank check, say come

754
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: in here and play for us, and we'll take care

755
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: of you right there, Like I'm wondering how much I

756
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: can play, Like I'm watching her last night, Caitlin Clark

757
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: is making at Iowa. They had some commercial breaks during

758
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: the ball game, and she's doing commercials now for the

759
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: Big ten network. She's probably getting the big chunk of

760
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: change right there. And I remember years ago, you know,

761
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: if an athlete was basically on TV doing a spot

762
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: or commercial, you could not wear the college uniform. You

763
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: weren't permitted to do that. She was wearing the Iowa

764
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: number twenty two uniform during the commercial.

765
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but I'll say, all of this stuff

766
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: that we're in is look is due to the colleges

767
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: and the NCAA's on fault. Like something small is like

768
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: just trying to compensate some of the players, like trying

769
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 3: to upd Anny on some of the stuff like they've

770
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: refuse to, and so in their attempt to be greedy,

771
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: they've kind of undone an institution, and it's going to

772
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 3: continue to be undone because you have politicians that are

773
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: openly attacking nil and situations making sure that they aren't

774
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 3: the restrictions that colleges are trying to put on them.

775
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 3: And it's going to be even more challenging for these

776
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: universities to be able to function when you not only

777
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 3: have to deal with men's sports and the revenue sports

778
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 3: football and basketball, but now you also whatever you do

779
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 3: for the men, you have to do for the women

780
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 3: per Title nine, and so it makes it very very

781
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 3: challenging for these athletic departments to operate. I think ultimately

782
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: what we're going to do is we're gonna see college

783
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: football and college sports split to where you have the

784
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 3: haves and the have nots. You have an upper division

785
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: of the top five, the top power five squads, and

786
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 3: then you're going to have the rest of them. And

787
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 3: just like we see at the high school level, division

788
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 3: one on to like UH one A, two A, three A,

789
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 3: I think you're going to see sports break up like

790
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 3: that where you have different championships and different because everyone

791
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: can't play this game. Everyone cannot afford to play the

792
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 3: game the way it's presently constructed.

793
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: I'm with you right there. I think the future of

794
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: athletes and their compensation with athletes are going to get

795
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: That's a that's a big thing down the road. And

796
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: the NCAA has got some legal challenges right now. And

797
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: the term amateurism and that model that they use for amateurism,

798
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: that's going to go down the drain because they're not

799
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: amateurs anymore. They're getting paid. So I think that term

800
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: goes down to crapper. It really does. So we'll see

801
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: what I happened a lot of a lot of questions

802
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: in the future. I think that's why a lot of coaches,

803
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 2: like coach k and Jay right at Villanova, I think

804
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: they left because I think they were tired of having

805
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: athletes come and go with like free agency. I think

806
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: it's tough. I mean, Rick Patino said it yesterday. You

807
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: can't build a brand. There's no longer a coach cannot

808
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: build a brand with his program right now, with coaches

809
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: going in and players going in and out.

810
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that, but I'm not going to wind

811
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 3: too much about and feel sorry for coaches, because coaches

812
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 3: have been doing this over and over again. There are

813
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 3: a lot of people that have gotten rich off the

814
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: backs of the players. You know, there are a lot

815
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: of athletic departments, a lot of ads and presidents and

816
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: people around athletic departments that have made a lot of

817
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: money off of basketball and football players providing all this

818
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 3: other stuff. In fact, when you think about the revenue sports,

819
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,479
Speaker 3: basketball and football, they provide opportunities for all the non

820
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 3: revenue sports to participate because the driving forces of the

821
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 3: athletic budgets are football and basketball, and because the refusal

822
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: to even pay give other stuff, extend stipends or whatever

823
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 3: to the players, it's now come back to bite them.

824
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: If they just had been a little more willing to

825
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: share pieces of the pot early, you wouldn't be in

826
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 3: the situation that you're facing now. And so degreed ultimately

827
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 3: undermined what was really a good thing.

828
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 4: When we looked at those college athletics.

829
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: Well said, he's Bucky Brooks and Andy Firmanwell, Fox Football

830
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 2: Sunny and Fox Sports Radio. By the way, he's a pro.

831
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: He is the pro, and he has all the answers,

832
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 2: there's Bucky is next.

833
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,799
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834
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,160
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835
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,400
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836
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 5: listen live.

837
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: All right, asked Bucky. Right around the corner right now.

838
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: This is Bucky Brooks and Andy fermannhon Fox Football Sunday.

839
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: We're live from the tire Rap dot Com studios. And

840
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: by the way, before we get started, football fans, be

841
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio every Sunday morning,

842
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,520
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843
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,840
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844
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,120
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845
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,680
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846
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: presented by BETMGM right here on Fox Sports Radio and

847
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: of course on the iHeartRadio app. Bucky, here we go, Ready,

848
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: how would you save or reboot the Pro Bowl?

849
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: Look, I think the expectations that the people have for

850
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl are unreasonable.

851
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 4: One.

852
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: I would play the game, you know, but I think

853
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 3: you have to understand people are not going to play

854
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 3: it like it's the Super Bowl or AFC Championship game.

855
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 3: The intense is not going to be there because no

856
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: one wants to get hurt. And so if you want

857
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 3: to see football, you have to be okay looking at

858
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 3: an exhibition rather than a game a competitive contest.

859
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: All right, in March, the UFL comes back. Will the

860
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: UFL make it? I think is what's going to help

861
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: the UFL this year. Maybe is gambling. Other than that,

862
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's going to make it.

863
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I think it'd have an opportunity to make

864
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: because now you just have one league to look at.

865
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: They had shown that people are willing to look at

866
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: spring football, but it's just hard because the names and

867
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: if you don't have star quarterbacks or recognizable names in quarterbacks,

868
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: it's just hard to get guys to follow. But the

869
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 3: gambling part of it will help him stay alive.

870
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 4: And so yeah, I look for the UFL to survive.

871
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: All right, Let's talk about Taylor Swift for a second.

872
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 2: How does she take away from the game of football

873
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: or does she Tony Dungee said that she does.

874
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's idiotic. I mean, she's a

875
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 3: fan just like anybody else. As a fan. Bradley Cooper

876
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: was in this week when the Philadelphia Eagles were making run.

877
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 3: Everybody has a team.

878
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 4: De Banjo, like bon Jovi, was a big fan of

879
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 4: the Patriots.

880
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: So I think there is more made about the Taylor

881
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 3: Swift deal just because Taylor Swift is a look. She's

882
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 3: box office, she's a big time star, and she commands

883
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: a lot of eyeball. She's brought a lot of attention

884
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 3: to the game. A lot of casual fans are watching

885
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 3: because she's there. But for Tony Dungee to say that,

886
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: for anybody to say that she's taken away from game,

887
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 3: to me, I think that's silly.

888
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: I'm with you right there now, back in the day

889
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: when March shot makes you rest in peace. On the

890
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Reads, she said, all scouts do or go to

891
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 2: games and watch ball games. Okay, I know maybe it's

892
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: different than football. But what's the real value of scouting.

893
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: That's the most important thing. And see that that annoys me.

894
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 3: And when owners say that they don't know what scouts

895
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: are actually out there doing. If you think about the

896
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 3: developmental program, the farm system in baseball, the developmental program

897
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 3: in football did a lifeblood to your organization. They provide

898
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: you with the players, and so players, look, it's about

899
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: talent acquisition and talent development. The scouts help you acquire

900
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 3: the talent because they identify the guys that can play.

901
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 3: So to me, scouts are valuable. They've never gotten there

902
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 3: just due that's why people don't pay them. They feel

903
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: like anybody can do it. But it's a difficult job

904
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 3: to do because you have to have an eye for

905
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: what you're looking for and you have to be able

906
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 3: to clearly articulate how this play is gonna come in

907
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: and help your squad.

908
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: Last, but not least, a complete set of Michael Jordan's

909
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: championship air Jordan's sneakers won by mj during the victories

910
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: of a six NBA titles and a six MVPs sold

911
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: for eight point three million dollars. Would you, well, maybe better?

912
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: Yet why would you.

913
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: Look?

914
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 4: I wouldn't.

915
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 3: But if you have that kind of disposable cash where

916
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 3: you can do it, it's always gonna say.

917
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 4: Because he's the goat.

918
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 3: Everyone recognizes him as the best basketball player that has

919
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 3: ever played. And so when you have that kind of

920
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: merchandise right off the floor, championships is everything that you want.

921
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. I wouldn't do it though. All right, he's Bucket

922
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 2: Brooks and Andy Furman. Some have much to lose or

923
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 2: gain in this year's Super Bowl. Got it more on

924
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday next. It's a career defining event that's

925
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: coming right up. Good morning, everybody. This is Fox Football

926
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: Sunday at Fox Sports Radio. He is Bucky Brooks, I'm

927
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: Andy Furman, and we are broadcasting live from the tiraq

928
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Tiraq dot com. We'll help you get there.

929
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: And on match selection, fast free shipping, free roade has

930
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Speaker 2: a protection, he said, free and over ten thousand recommended.

931
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: And Stiles tiraq dot com the way tire buying should be.

932
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: And here he is the five time pro, but he's

933
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 2: a pro every day of the year. Bucky Brooks. Yes,

934
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: our number two. And look, you know what, you've got

935
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 2: to be really happy today. North Carolina beat Duke last

936
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: night in basketball ninety three eighty four. You gotta just

937
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 2: tell me what it's like when North Carolina played Duke,

938
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 2: I mean, on that campus at Chapel Hill. What was

939
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: it like. I'm sure people want nuts down it and

940
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: they still do.

941
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they still do like. I mean, that's the

942
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: ultimate game. Carolina Duke have always been friendly rivals. It's

943
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 3: a read that I mean it just look, it gets

944
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 3: you excited just to be in the building. And when

945
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 3: you have two good teams both so we're in the

946
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: top ten, ranked in the top ten last night, I mean,

947
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: you're gonna have twenty one thousand people in the Dean

948
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 3: don't going crazy. The energy, the intensity, all of that stuff,

949
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 3: it resonates. And so when you have an opportunity to

950
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: win the game. You saw all the students take to

951
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 3: Franklin Street. Franklin Street is kind of like the main

952
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: strip downtown Chapel Hill, and look, man, there's just a

953
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 3: party time. Anytime Carolina beat Duke is always the celebration

954
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 3: that last night was one of the best time, one

955
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: of the best games that I've seen Carolina play in

956
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 3: a long time.

957
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: There you go, got a good team this year. They

958
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: really do. They go. They gotta shop. But I'll tell

959
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: you what though, South Carolina is pretty darn good too.

960
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: But it's be a pretty good tournament in March. I

961
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: really will. But you know, I've come on this show

962
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 2: with you. I love working with you, and I bragged

963
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: about you on NFL dot com. You're a writer, and

964
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: I will tell you this, I would read that what

965
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: you write that's in there every Friday NFL dot com.

966
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: You scroll down to writers even if I didn't work

967
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: with you and you want my buddy, Really, I would

968
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 2: do that. And this week is one of the best.

969
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 2: It really was. Is It's true? Really, there is nothing

970
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: like competing in the Super Bowl. You write the Lombardi

971
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 2: Trophy game carries unparalleled weight with an annual viewership in

972
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: nine figures. In football, immortality on the line, make a

973
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: big play in a key moment in Super Bowl, you're

974
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: a legend. Of course. Bottom line, this is a crew

975
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 2: the defining event. Performances delivered on the brightest and biggest

976
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: stage in the sport fuel off season chatter and influence

977
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: critical decisions down the road. Everybody's on the spot. And

978
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: you had a situation right now what you wrote this week.

979
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: Who has the most at stake in Super Bowl fifty

980
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: eight and maybe who has the most to lose? How

981
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: did you get to this? And you know what was

982
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: your decision making process on it?

983
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 3: So for me, I was just thinking about We talked

984
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 3: about how this game makes legends out of his heroes, Well,

985
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: which guy step into this arena with the most writing

986
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 3: on the outcome? Like what kind of narratives can be

987
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: written pending the outcome of the game if it goes

988
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 3: in their way, if he goes opposite them? And so

989
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 3: what you do is you just kind of looked at

990
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 3: the list of names and their notable stars in this game,

991
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 3: on the Niners and the Chiefs. What would a win

992
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 3: mean for those guys, participants, players and coaches?

993
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 4: What would have lost me?

994
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 3: And so we just kind of take some of the

995
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 3: top players you kind of weigh that weigh with their

996
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 3: legacy or how their legacy could be impacted by winning

997
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 3: or losing the game, and then you just kind of

998
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 3: cal watch your thoughts from there.

999
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: You know, can one game really paint the player or

1000
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: a coach? You know, I will I will say this,

1001
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: and it's not the Super Bowl, but it was a player.

1002
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: Well maybe it was a super Well yeah, with the

1003
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: Buffalo against the Giants when nor would the kicker had

1004
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: wide right now, that's just that's his life wide right,

1005
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: You're right, that's it. So maybe maybe it does.

1006
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean it's unfortunate.

1007
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 3: I mean, think about the helmet catch for the Giants,

1008
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: David Tyree, you know him making that one play, or

1009
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 3: you think about some of the other guys.

1010
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 4: Dexter Jackson was an MVP.

1011
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 3: We've seen Trent Difford win a super Bowl and how

1012
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 3: you always have to call those guys. I mean, think

1013
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 3: about Joe Flacco, Joe Flacco winning and how it does

1014
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: winning a super Bowl changes how people view you because

1015
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: no matter what people say, once you won a super Bowl,

1016
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 3: they always have to refer to you as super Bowl Champion,

1017
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 3: no matter what. Away.

1018
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, but I think that winning the Super

1019
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: Bowl does change you, number one, but it could only

1020
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: change a key position player or someone who makes a

1021
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: great play in that game. I think on offense. Some

1022
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: send me maybe it did change Jason Kelcey a little bit.

1023
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 2: He didn't win it, but the point is that his

1024
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: brother helped him. His brother, his name helped him get

1025
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 2: that notoriety. Don't you agree. I mean, it's really tough

1026
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: for alignment to get that notoriety.

1027
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: I would think, Uh yeah, I think I think it does.

1028
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 3: And I think for Kelsey, obviously that team has been good.

1029
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 3: He's a unique case because his brother's name is big.

1030
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 3: So now you're talking about two Pro Bowl players in

1031
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 3: the family, probably two Hall of Famers in the family,

1032
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: because as Kelsey it certainly recognizes that. And you know,

1033
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: likability also factors into the situation when it comes to

1034
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. He'll have a chance, but it

1035
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: just changes how you view those people. I mean, people

1036
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: talk about it and he didn't win it. But you know,

1037
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: I heard the conversation about dan Quinn, you know, and

1038
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 3: dan Quinn, why is he getting his job? But I

1039
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 3: think people failed to forget dan Quinn led the Atlanta

1040
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 3: Falcons to a Super Bowl. Now they didn't win it.

1041
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: They were up twenty eight to three. They should have

1042
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: won it by all accounts, but one of the coaches

1043
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 3: that was here played a role in maybe why this

1044
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 3: team didn't win. The Atlanta Falcons. But dan Quinn has

1045
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 3: has taken them to and everyone can't go. And so

1046
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 3: that's where it kind of separates, you know, the goods

1047
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 3: from the greats. You know, the greats are able to

1048
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: kind of get it done and if they get it

1049
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 3: done multiple times and push you in really legendary status.

1050
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 3: Rare air.

1051
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 2: Okay, you had the top ten players who the Super

1052
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 2: may effect. What's at stake for these guys a good,

1053
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: better and different, And I guess it's different, difficult how

1054
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: to do ten down to one? But number ten you

1055
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: had Rushi Rice, the wide receiver for the Kansas City Chiefs.

1056
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: What's the deal with him? I know he's emerged right

1057
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: now is a wide receiver, I guess the number one

1058
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: wide receiver down the stretch for the Kansas City Chiefs. Basically,

1059
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: he's kind of put his name in cement right now.

1060
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 2: He could move to the next level if they win

1061
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: and he has a big game. And again, you know,

1062
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: if they're covering Travis Kelce as tight as they should

1063
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 2: or can, he could emerge as a star in that game.

1064
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he could emerge at the star. I think it's

1065
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 3: bigger for him. I think it's setting him up to

1066
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 3: be the number one going forward. What we have seen

1067
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 3: from the Kansas City Chiefs, Travis Kelsey is the number one.

1068
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 3: Well when he moves on if I mean, look, who

1069
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 3: knows when he'll move on. But I mean, wouldn't a

1070
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: storybook ending be if Travis Kelce won a Super Bowl

1071
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 3: this year, he and Taylor's worth kind of ride off

1072
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 3: into the sunset.

1073
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 4: I mean, can't he get any better?

1074
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 3: Than that three Super Bowls, He's already known as a

1075
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer. So if Travis Kelsey decides to end

1076
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 3: it after this, Rice has to be the next option.

1077
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 3: As the number one player in the passing game. He

1078
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 3: can continue to set himself up with a solid performance

1079
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 3: because everyone has grown to treat him like a code

1080
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 3: number one with Travis Kelce. If he has a big game,

1081
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 3: I think people are ready to annoy him as a

1082
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 3: true number one receiver.

1083
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: Okay, we've got a defensive end here right now. In

1084
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine ers. You put him at

1085
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: number nine, Chase Young, he was a number two draft pick.

1086
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: He could create a lot of damage in this game

1087
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: and make a name for himself. I don't know if

1088
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: he totally get the credit. They'd say it was defense

1089
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: that did it for the forty nine ers. I don't

1090
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 2: think they would single out Chase Young unless he has

1091
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,479
Speaker 2: an unbelievable game, like about five sacks or something like that.

1092
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, like he would have to have an unbelievable game.

1093
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 3: But what I'll say about Chase Young when you're the

1094
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 3: second overall pick and it didn't necessarily go your way

1095
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 3: in Washington, even though you were defensive Rookie of the

1096
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: Year and all those things. But the way that the

1097
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 3: commanders dismissed him at the end of his turn, I

1098
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 3: mean it left a lot to be desired in terms

1099
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 3: of the way that you viewed him. Well, if he

1100
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 3: is able to go and perform well in the Super Bowl,

1101
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 3: people will begin to remember this dude was a second

1102
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: overall pick. This is the guy that we celebrated. Come

1103
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 3: out of Ohio State. He was a defensive Rookie of

1104
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 3: the Year. Don't know why went Southwest for him in Washington,

1105
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 3: but if he goes to San Francisco and wins, Chris

1106
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 3: Casirik has found a way to kind of unlock some

1107
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: of those things, it changes how people may view him

1108
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: when he hits the open market as a free agent.

1109
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: Okay, here's a goodie and I we got to spend

1110
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: some time on this one. He ranked him number eight

1111
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: on your list. Jake Moody a third round pick, a

1112
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: kicker for the forty nine ers. I don't know if

1113
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: I would ever draft a kicker that high, but that's

1114
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: me Okay, maybe you would. Maybe I'm wrong on this.

1115
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: Came out of Michigan, but he had a forty eight

1116
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 2: yard of blocked in the division round, and he pushed

1117
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: a kick to the same distance wide right out of

1118
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: forty eight one on Sunday. He's like a Scott Norwood clone.

1119
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: Maybe he's got to come up big. I mean, he's

1120
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: just got to do what he's got to do. Do

1121
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 2: his job. She doesn't get any more negativity to his name.

1122
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 2: He's got some problems. I think it could be in

1123
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: his head right now. Jake Moody at eight.

1124
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, Jake Moody has to step up, and it's something.

1125
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 3: There's nothing that outrages the football world more than when

1126
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: a team uses a top pick on a kicker. I mean,

1127
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 3: there's just this outrage when they use a first, second,

1128
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 3: or third round pick on a kicker. But what I

1129
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 3: would tell you is, you go back and you look

1130
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 3: at the stats on every team. The kicker is the

1131
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 3: leading score on every team. When you're looking at your

1132
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 3: favorite team and it tries out the field goal kicker,

1133
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 3: there's a there's this feeling that you get if you

1134
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 3: can make it from long distance or if he's an

1135
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 3: inconsistent guy. So that's why it's a position that should

1136
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 3: be treated like a starting position. You should give it

1137
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 3: some weight. But for Jake Moody being a third round pick,

1138
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 3: having the misses that he had during the regular season,

1139
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 3: there's some questions, you know, there's some questions that people

1140
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 3: want answer.

1141
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 4: It.

1142
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 3: If he shanks one in a critical moment for the

1143
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 3: Niners in Super Bowl fifty eight, man, they're going to

1144
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 3: be out in full force to go after him because

1145
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 3: they would say that the Niners wasted to pick on

1146
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 3: a kicker when they could have got a better position

1147
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: player or another piece to the puzzle to help this

1148
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 3: team stay relevant. So a lot of pressure on Jake

1149
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: Moody to make sure he comes to whenever he has

1150
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: an opportunity to try.

1151
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 2: It may be the biggest pressure on him that all

1152
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: the players that you put in the top ten could

1153
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: be the biggest on him. Numbers only been seven and

1154
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 2: six together, both Kansas City Chiefs players. Chris Jones defensive

1155
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 2: tackles for the Chiefs all pro. I mean when the

1156
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 2: Chiefs basically the first half of the season were winning

1157
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: games but basically winning him because of the defense. It

1158
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 2: was Chris Jones and number six. You got Lagerius Sneid,

1159
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: a cornerback. Boy, does he have his work cut out

1160
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: for him against Deebo Samuel and Brandon Ayo coming up

1161
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 2: next Sunday. So those those two right there, seven and six.

1162
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris Jones and Jeriosney.

1163
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 3: Chris Jones already recognized as one of the top defensive

1164
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 3: tackles and football All Pro guys, sat out, did a

1165
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 3: hold out early in the year to draw some attention

1166
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 3: to a I want to get paid. They had to

1167
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 3: tweak his deal a little bit. The way the Kansas

1168
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 3: City Chiefs defenses played, you just thought about the beginning season,

1169
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 3: I would say all year they're winning because of their defense.

1170
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 3: They're winning because Chris Jones is a dominant player inside

1171
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 3: or outside wherever they choose to pick him.

1172
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 4: So everyone knows about him.

1173
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: But the guy that is coming on that can challenge

1174
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 3: salt Guard and some of these guys for CB one,

1175
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 3: that's the Jerry Snead La Jarius Sneed has been snuffing

1176
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 3: out premiere pass catches on the perimeter. He's played great.

1177
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 3: Everyone saw what he did to Tyreek Hill, stoning him

1178
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 3: at the line of Scrimmers throwing him around. You saw

1179
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 3: the great play that he made knocking the ball out

1180
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 3: of Za Flowers hands as he was about to cross

1181
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 3: the goal line. L Jarious Sneed.

1182
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: Flowers too, but it was a great play.

1183
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 3: But it was just a great play by Sneid continuing

1184
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 3: to fight. Yeah, I mean some would say A Flowers,

1185
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: you don't extend the ball, uh unless it's a guy

1186
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 3: to have a situation on fourth down. But he did

1187
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 3: and la Jarry Sneed had enough awareness to knock it

1188
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 3: out and La Jarry Sneid We'll get a ton of

1189
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 3: credit because man, he's taken on any and all comers

1190
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 3: and had a lot of success on the perimeter. He

1191
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 3: has a chance become a household name.

1192
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: Okay, coming up the number five, Christian McCaffrey. This guy

1193
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 2: really intrudes going toa geint some MVP votes. What a

1194
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: year he's had, led the league in rushing yards over

1195
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: fourteen hundred, scrimmage yarge total touchdowns at twenty one. You know,

1196
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 2: he's the kind of guy that if he doesn't produce,

1197
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: he may that heat. You know, just like when Lamar

1198
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: Jackson goes on the big stage, they get the criticism.

1199
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: He can't come to play on the big stage. McCaffrey,

1200
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: you know what he could do, but he's got to

1201
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: get it done on Sunday at running back.

1202
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 3: He does have to get it done, just because the

1203
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: way people view the running back position. Everyone will talking

1204
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 3: about how it's devalued. It's not devalued. It's just that

1205
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 3: you don't want to overpay the position unless the player

1206
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 3: is special. Christian McCaffrey is special, that's it. If the

1207
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 3: Niners aren't able to get it done with him playing

1208
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 3: a key role as the offensive spark plug, now you

1209
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 3: begin to wonder how much can you really pay a

1210
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 3: running back even I mean, look the numbers from the

1211
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 3: regular season since he's been there.

1212
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 4: The dude has been electric.

1213
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 3: He's been terrific, the best run of receivers that we've

1214
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 3: seen in the position in NFL history. But a Super

1215
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: Bowl ring would validate what the Niners gave up to

1216
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: get him. It also will kind of put some spotlight

1217
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 3: back on running backs in terms of the positive impact

1218
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 3: and effect that they can have on an offense. That's

1219
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: why it's a big, big week, big game for Christian McCaffery.

1220
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: All right at number four and this is unbelievable. So

1221
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,479
Speaker 2: right now they're calling the Kansas City Chiefs the Patriots West.

1222
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: That's what they're doing. And part of the reason that

1223
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: coach Andy Reid. And look, I mean he's catching up

1224
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: right now. He'll have earned three rings in the span

1225
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: of five seasons, also drained close to three hundred wins.

1226
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: He may be the goat. He may be taking over

1227
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: the goat, I mean, moving Bill Belichick basically to the sidelines.

1228
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: I don't think he will, but a lot of people

1229
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 2: will be saying it.

1230
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think you can have a reasonable

1231
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 3: conversation because it's not just the six Super Bowls that

1232
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick want. Right he's fifteen away from Don Shula's mark.

1233
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 3: But if you look at Andy Reid, he's climbing the ranks.

1234
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 3: He's getting closer to winning three hundred. You look at

1235
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 3: the job that he's done with any quarterback that he's

1236
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 3: been given.

1237
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 4: Man, you think, man, this.

1238
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 3: Guy got the Philadelphia Eagles to what five NFC title

1239
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 3: games got them to a super Bowl. He comes to

1240
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 3: Kansas City, remakes Alex Smith into a pro Bowl player.

1241
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 3: He then takes over identify as Pat Mahomes and turns

1242
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 3: Pat Mahomes into an absolute superstar when no one had

1243
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 3: predicted that for Pat Mahomes coming out of Texas Tech.

1244
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 3: The fact that they would have won if they win

1245
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 3: on Sunday. Three out of four Super Bowls. The fact

1246
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 3: that they've been to four with Pat Mahomes starting in

1247
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 3: a six year span. Yeah, now you begin to put

1248
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 3: stuff of legends up behind Andy Reed's name. This is

1249
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 3: why you can talk about him maybe being the best

1250
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 3: coach of the decade. You know, you put that in

1251
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 3: with Bill Belichick. There becomes that conversation, who does it,

1252
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 3: who's done it better? Because we saw Bill Belichick fall

1253
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 3: off when he didn't have Tom Brady. Now it becomes

1254
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 3: a thing where Andy Reid has been able to do

1255
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 3: it with any quarterback that he's been given.

1256
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 4: That conversation begins to pop up a little more.

1257
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 2: No doubt about that. I'm going to skip down to

1258
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: number one for a second. First, at number three, you

1259
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 2: got a quarterback rock Party. We understand why. Okay, his

1260
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: record is twenty one and five including the playoff. Number two,

1261
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 2: another quarterback, Patrick Mahomes. He's going to be goat status obviously,

1262
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 2: seven rings for Tom Brady. We'll see what happens if

1263
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 2: he wins the Super Bowl. But number one is another coach.

1264
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: A lot of heat on this guy, Kyle Shanahan failing

1265
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: to close out Super Bowl. Chances got to get it done.

1266
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 2: That forty nine his blown lead in Super Bowl was

1267
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 2: that forty nine for I think it was forty nine,

1268
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 2: forty I don't remember. But he's got to win it.

1269
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: He's got to win it because there's gonna be a

1270
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: monkey on his back and a lot of questions that

1271
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:43,959
Speaker 2: he can't get it done in the big game.

1272
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of questions, a lot of concerns about

1273
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 3: his inability to be able to get it done.

1274
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 4: So for Cayle Shanahan, he needs to win.

1275
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 3: We celebrate him all the time as being one of

1276
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 3: the best coaches in football, but he's kind of like

1277
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,479
Speaker 3: the emperor with no clothes. He doesn't have any rings

1278
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 3: to show for. So if you're gonna be recognized as

1279
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 3: one of the best coaches, at some point, you got

1280
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 3: to win a championship. And he has had two opportunities

1281
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 3: to do it, one as a head coach, another as

1282
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 3: offensive coordinated where the team was winning in the fourth

1283
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 3: quarter but couldn't close it out. While some would say

1284
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 3: you blame the defense in both of those situations, you

1285
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 3: can look at the offense and some of the offensive

1286
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 3: inefficiencies and ineffective. Ineffectiveness has contributed to the team falling short.

1287
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's on Cal Shanahan.

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Speaker 2: They got to win, no doubt about that. That's Bucket Brooks.

1289
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Speaker 2: Get him at NFL at dot com. But get him

1290
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: here with me every Sunday on Fox Sport's ready, and

1291
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 2: of course get him on Twitter at Bucky Brooks or

1292
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Speaker 2: Mike Harmon will join us in the next hour. Get

1293
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: him at Swollen Dome or at Andy Furman FSL will

1294
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Speaker 2: read him or eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox

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Speaker 2: eight seven seven nine ninety six sixty three sixty nine

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Speaker 2: bottom barrel betting in this hour and has mentioned the

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Speaker 2: Swollen Dome. Mike Harmon will join us in the next hour.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we got this now, it's unbelievable. We got

1299
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: he he's talking. But why now that's coming up next

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00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: live from the ti Raq dot com studios. What's the

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Speaker 2: upside with this? Well, that's right around the corner. He

1302
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 2: is Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Firmer. We are Fox Football

1303
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 2: Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. By the way, shortly after

1304
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: the show, our podcast is gonna be going up. And

1305
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 2: if you missed any of today's show, be sure to

1306
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: check out the podcast, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

1307
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: you get your podcasts, and be sure to also follow,

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Speaker 2: rate and review the podcast. Again, just search Fox Sports

1309
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: Radio wherever you get your podcast and you'll see this

1310
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: show posted right after we get off the air. Now,

1311
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's dad is in the news. Horrible Bill Belichick

1312
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 2: ruined the Patriots. That was in the Boston Globe.

1313
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 3: The other day.

1314
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 2: Really, and why now, mister Brady's senior, why now, what

1315
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 2: good Bucky Brooks? What good does this do for anyone?

1316
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 2: I mean, it probably even hurts Tom Junior. He had

1317
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 2: to call him Tom Junior, but he is Tom Junior.

1318
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 2: It doesn't doesn't make any sense. Tom Brady Senior says

1319
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick is the quote best coach in football, but

1320
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 2: one characteristic ultimately led to his son's breakup with the

1321
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: longtime Patriots coach. Said he's tough. He runs a military system.

1322
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: Whatever that means. I don't know what it means. It's

1323
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 2: a different generation. Bill's a great, great, great coach, But

1324
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 2: into personal skills are horrible, That's the bottom line. Why now,

1325
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: why is he doing it now? Buck Well?

1326
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, something you wanted to get off his chest.

1327
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 3: Look it does appear like he's kind of kicking the

1328
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 3: man when he's down.

1329
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 4: But I understand it.

1330
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 3: I understand it because maybe it could have been avoided

1331
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 3: with tom Brady's sticking around. I mean, tom Brady was

1332
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 3: able to go down to Tampa and win a title

1333
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Speaker 3: with those guys. Maybe if he stays in New England,

1334
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 3: they continue to do some more winning. Whenever you let

1335
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 3: someone go like that, it's always personal. And even though

1336
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 3: it appeared that they had made amends when they you know,

1337
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 3: they celebrated him last year Ring of Honor all that

1338
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 3: other stuff, but it's still man. No one expected tom

1339
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 3: Brady ever to have to go elsewhere to play. But

1340
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,439
Speaker 3: part of the reason why he went elsewhere one Bill

1341
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 3: Belichick didn't believe in him to tom Brady appeared to

1342
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 3: go weary of the constant harassment and badgering that some

1343
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 3: would call coaching, and he just wanted a different He

1344
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 3: wanted to do it differently, and he was able to

1345
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 3: do it differently, and so now he is empowered to

1346
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 3: say that you just don't have to do it the

1347
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 3: Patriots way to be able to win, and the Patriots

1348
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 3: way makes people bristle because they think about they're all consuming,

1349
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 3: the controlling, the kind of evil empire that exists in

1350
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Speaker 3: New England. It can become annoying because it's really hard

1351
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 3: to function in those environments, trying to get information, trying

1352
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 3: to talk to people when they close it all off.

1353
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Speaker 3: And so I felt like Tom Brady's dad just felt like, Hey,

1354
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 3: I got the opportunity to kind of kick the dog

1355
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 3: when it's down. I'm gonna ahead and kick him on

1356
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Speaker 3: my way out the door. And that's what he did.

1357
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Speaker 2: He should did. It sounded to me like a senile

1358
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: old man. However, and the last second we took about

1359
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Speaker 2: NFL dot com where you're the and we talked about

1360
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 2: defining moments, especially the Super Bowl will do that. I

1361
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: think the defining moment for Bill Belichick, not so much

1362
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 2: super Bowl games, is like when Tom Brady left, because

1363
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 2: Belichick is now twenty nine and thirty eight with the

1364
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 2: Patriots and he's no longer with the Patriots after Brady

1365
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 2: has left, missed the playoffs three or four years right now,

1366
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: And what really stuck the dagger really in Bill Belichick

1367
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 2: to some, not many, to some was that in the

1368
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 2: first year when Bretdy left, he won a Super Bowl

1369
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Speaker 2: with Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, look, it's a unique situation when you

1371
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 3: see that, but Tom Brady was able to go down there,

1372
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 3: win it, win it right away, kind of put the

1373
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 3: kebash on some of the things about Tom Brady being

1374
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 3: assistant quarterback and Bill Belichick propping him up. I mean,

1375
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 3: he answered a lot of those questions, and it put

1376
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 3: more questions on Bill Belichick. And Bill Belichick went without

1377
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 3: Tom Brady because he hasn't proven that he could do it.

1378
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny we started the show off talking

1379
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 2: about Dan Campbell. I want to kind of offended Dan

1380
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: Campill because the mediamongers, the gas bags on talk radio,

1381
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 2: or some writers were killing Dan Campll. I understand you

1382
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 2: could question it, but don't kill the guy because that's

1383
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 2: what got him to the playoffs with the Detroit Lions.

1384
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 2: And now you've got the same situation with Bill Belichick.

1385
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 2: You know, he did this, he wasn't this. He's nothing

1386
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 2: about Tom Brady, and now he's out of a job.

1387
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say this. I don't think anybody brought

1388
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: this point up. I know he had to view twice

1389
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 2: with the Atlanta Falcons, but we don't know if he

1390
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 2: turned down those vacant coaching positions, or he didn't get

1391
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 2: the position that's the key, and he may have turned

1392
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 2: it down because he realized many of those teams did

1393
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 2: not have a first string franchise quarterback, which would hurt

1394
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 2: him and hurt his quest to break down Shula's record.

1395
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking maybe it was his call that you

1396
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: know what, Yeah, I got the job, but I think

1397
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna wait, I don't want it. What

1398
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 2: do you think about that?

1399
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:55,919
Speaker 3: Maybe he was his call.

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01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 4: I think it might have been mutual.

1401
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 3: Maybe there could be where maybe Bill Belichick didn't like

1402
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 3: the way the structure of the program was going to

1403
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 3: be where he wouldn't have all the Jews to be

1404
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 3: able to have the personnel and everything report to him,

1405
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 3: and maybe the Falcons decision makers didn't want to change

1406
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 3: the situation in the structure.

1407
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 4: That they currently had in place.

1408
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 3: You have to remember, in all of these hires, you

1409
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 3: have people that are on the decision committee that have

1410
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 3: their own agendas, and if you run the risk of

1411
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 3: bringing someone in who's going to want more power, you

1412
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,479
Speaker 3: can find yourself bringing someone in to replace your job.

1413
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 3: That might have been a factor in it and people

1414
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 3: talk about Rich McKay and all that other stuff. I

1415
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 3: just think you got to keep digging as to why

1416
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 3: a guy who is as successful as Bill Belichick is not.

1417
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 4: In the league.

1418
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 3: A lot of it is due to people being afraid

1419
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 3: to deal with everything that comes with him.

1420
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 4: And we can talk.

1421
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 3: About his stooges, his proteg he's not having success. The

1422
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 3: one thing we know is Bill Belichick will have success

1423
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 3: because he knows how to win games.

1424
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 4: He knows how to do it.

1425
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 3: You can question where they can develop a quarterback, but

1426
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 3: he knows how to win games.

1427
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 4: And he's done at a ton.

1428
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. But I mean a lot

1429
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 2: of the people, the speculators and people in media are

1430
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 2: saying that, you know, he's out of a job, he

1431
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 2: didn't get a job and the power situation went controlled.

1432
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 2: We don't know that. You know, I guess a good

1433
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 2: thing for Bill Belichick because he's so tight lipped. He

1434
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 2: doesn't say anything that we're moving on to Cincinnati. Famous

1435
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 2: quote that he had after a loss. You know, he

1436
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 2: could have easily said, look, you know, it was my decision.

1437
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 2: I'd be better served by sitting out a year and

1438
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 2: maybe waiting for a better position. He didn't say that,

1439
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 2: so we don't know. But I think the people that

1440
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 2: are writing and talking about it just assume that he

1441
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 2: didn't get a job. And again, like Tom Brady Senior,

1442
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:42,919
Speaker 2: they're kicking him in the rear end. That's what they're doing.

1443
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are trying to kick him. They're kicking him

1444
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 3: when he's down for sure. Look, man, it's tough out

1445
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 3: there for Belichick.

1446
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:52,959
Speaker 4: He's out.

1447
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 3: People are finally trying to get at him. And because

1448
01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 3: he wasn't able to win successfully out Tom Brady, there

1449
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 3: are a lot of people that are saying it was

1450
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 3: a players more so than the system. And I think

1451
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 3: with all these things that we're seeing, you gotta have

1452
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 3: each other. Quarterback needs to have great coaching and a

1453
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 3: great defense to be able to do it. Pat Mahomes,

1454
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 3: if they win, they get credit for the wonderful things

1455
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 3: that you've done. But really we can say that the

1456
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 3: defense is what has carried Kansas City throughout the season.

1457
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 3: It's part of it's part of that. It's a bottom

1458
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 3: line business, and unfortunately for for Bill Belichick, uh, the

1459
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 3: bottom line has not been great the last couple of years, no.

1460
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 2: Doubt about that, and for you, mister Tom Brady Sr.

1461
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 2: I'll give you this. That's for you. Really, I think

1462
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 2: it's something that's ugly when people do that, when people

1463
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 2: are down and out. I mean, come on, really, let

1464
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 2: it go. I just I bet you Tom Tom Junior

1465
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 2: is a little embarrassed. He didn't say anything. I bet

1466
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 2: he's you know, what do you do? You don't have

1467
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 2: bad mouth your dad, but you gotta be a little

1468
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 2: bit embarrassed. But Dad, really do you have to?

1469
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 3: You gotta tell you, pops, Pops get in the clos Yeah.

1470
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 4: Now I gotta go in talk about all these things.

1471
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 2: D put the bourbon away. Please really, come on, here

1472
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 2: we go. Fucky brooks Andy Fervan, Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports. Ready,

1473
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 2: we'd love to hear from you at eight seven seven

1474
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 2: ninety nine one Fox eight seven seven nine nine six

1475
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 2: fifty three sixty nine. This isn't an Alex Smith experiment.

1476
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 2: We'll explain this, but first, Kevin Wyer, a guy with

1477
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 2: all your sports.

1478
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, big night for offense into the NBA. On Saturday,

1479
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 7: Steph Curry dropped sixty on the Atlanta Hawks, but Golden

1480
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 7: State lost that game in overtime. Finals score in that

1481
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 7: one one, forty one two one thirty four. The Aaron

1482
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 7: Fox had forty one points and he was able to

1483
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 7: get his team to victory. The Kings beat the Bulls

1484
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 7: won twenty three one p fifteen Cam Thomas forty points

1485
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 7: nets over the seventy six Ers won thirty six one

1486
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 7: twenty one Giannis with forty eight points. And it's the

1487
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 7: Bucks over the Mavericks one twenty nine to one seventeen.

1488
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 7: Donovan Mitchell had thirty one points and the Cavaliers have

1489
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 7: now made it five straight wins one seventeen one oh

1490
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 7: one the winner at San Antonio. As for the college ranks,

1491
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 7: we had a big rivalry game on Tobacco Road Number

1492
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 7: three North Carolina, number seven Duke and it's the tar

1493
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 7: Heels winning at ninety three eighty four in the Big

1494
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 7: twelve A Top ten matchup. Eight three Kansas up ends

1495
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 7: Number four Houston Is seventy eight sixty five. Number eighteen

1496
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 7: Baylor over number twelve Iowa State seventy to sixty eight,

1497
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 7: as the Bears winning on a late jumper. Number fifteen

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Speaker 7: Texas Tech upset by Cincinnati seventy five to seventy two

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Speaker 7: in the sec A Top ten matchup the fifth ranked

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Speaker 7: Tennessee Volunteers over the number ten Kentucky Wildcats one oh

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Speaker 7: three ninety two and in the Mountain West number seventeen.

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Speaker 7: Utah State defeated by San Diego State eighty one at

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Speaker 7: two sixty seven. And we have some NFL coaching news.

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01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 7: As a Cliff Kingsbury not going to be the offensive

1505
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 7: coordinator for the Los vais Gets Raiders. Ian Rappaport is

1506
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 7: saying that it'll be Luke Getzi who will be the

1507
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 7: offensive coordinator in Las Vegas. So an interesting development there.

1508
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 7: And Jack McKinnon going to be off of injured reserve.

1509
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 7: The Chiefs have designated him to return from injured reserve.

1510
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 7: He's been dealing with a growing injury, so we'll see

1511
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 7: how he's able to go in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, thanks Keef. Seeing about

1513
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 2: an hour now? Is he predicting the future? Well, we'll

1514
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 2: get to that in just about a minute. He's Bucket Brooks.

1515
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 2: I'm Andy Furman. We're live from the ti iraq dot

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Speaker 2: com studios, and of course we have bonom berrel betting

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01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 2: at about seven eight minutes from now. But let's talk

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01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 2: about predicting the future. And one of the guys that

1519
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 2: might be doing that is Caleb Williams, the quarterback of USC,

1520
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 2: basically the formal quarterback of USC. He was updating his

1521
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 2: Instagram profile picture showcasing a shot of himself as a kid.

1522
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 2: And not just that, but he's wearing a T shirt

1523
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 2: featuring Gus Watt a bear all right, like it was

1524
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 2: a Teddy Bear. It's like unbelievable really, because he knows

1525
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 2: that he may very well be the first round pick

1526
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 2: of the NFL Draft and that pick goes to the

1527
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears. Do we have to play this game? I mean,

1528
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 2: the speculation now that some NFL analysts say that Williams

1529
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 2: does not prefer to go to Chicago. They have not

1530
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 2: had a winning season in the last eleven years. You know,

1531
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 2: to me, you know, I'd love to go to Chicago. A.

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01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 2: I love the city, but b you got no place

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01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: to go but up. I mean, why wouldn't you want

1534
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 2: to go to a team like that?

1535
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Speaker 3: I mean, maybe if they're looking at it from an

1536
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 3: objective point of view, how many quarterbacks have florist and

1537
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 3: succeeded in Chicago and their history, franchise's history.

1538
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:38,440
Speaker 4: How many great quarterbacks?

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01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 3: Right So if you're Caleb Williams family, you're looking at

1540
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 3: that and you say that there's a problem, there's been

1541
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 3: a huge problem developing quarterbacks in that city. Cannot be

1542
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 3: successful in this city with this organization playing quarterback. I

1543
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, I think it's a reasonable take

1544
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 3: to have when you're just trying to examine what is

1545
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 3: going on. I would say the thing that he has

1546
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 3: done is he's look, he's out now. He's forced himself

1547
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 3: into a situation where the Bears vere will take him.

1548
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 3: If he had trepidation about that, that's when you have

1549
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 3: the conversation before you declare maybe you know, because he

1550
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 3: was getting so much in il money didn't it didn't

1551
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 3: necessarily matter. He could have stayed in and done it

1552
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 3: all over again.

1553
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 2: It's amazing. It really is another Bears. I've never commented

1554
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 2: whether they're gonna go for for Caleb Caleb Williams who

1555
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 2: stay with Justin Fields and what Justin fields future is

1556
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 2: going to be. But some of the players that I've

1557
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 2: read this on the and the Bears have endorsed that

1558
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 2: basically they want to stay with Justin Fields. And look

1559
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 2: to me, and you said this many times, there's nothing

1560
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 2: better than experience, especially as college kids who maybe have

1561
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 2: played only one year in college jumping to the NFL

1562
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 2: and kind of getting on the center for the first time.

1563
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 2: They can't get it done. Can't get it done. And

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01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 2: to me, there's a possibility of Kirk Cousins going free agent,

1565
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins maybe going to the Bears. If I'm the

1566
01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:00,080
Speaker 2: Bears front office, win now, Kurt Cousins is your guy.

1567
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 2: Go for Kirk Cousins and maybe still draft Caleb Williams,

1568
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 2: but let him work underneath Kirk Cousins to kind of

1569
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 2: get a feel of the NFL. That's my take, that's

1570
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 2: what I would do.

1571
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't think that's a bad strategy. But

1572
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 3: we'll see that's a very expensive bridge quarterback that you're

1573
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 3: talking about bringing in when you talk about Kirk Cousins though,

1574
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 3: like Kirk Cousins is going to command top dollar, so

1575
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 3: you don't get a discount on that. But it does

1576
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 3: make sense to bring someone in and to allow a

1577
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 3: young quarterback to sit for a while because they do

1578
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 3: pick up nuances of the game that they won't get

1579
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 3: when they can lose their confidence early on being overwhelmed

1580
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 3: by the entire atmosphere, crowd, situation, opponent. Just got to

1581
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 3: be careful how you develop those guys. We've seen like

1582
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 3: a slower approach sometimes can be better, but then they're

1583
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 3: always the outliers like a you know CJ. Stroud that

1584
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:55,919
Speaker 3: plays well.

1585
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 4: From the rip.

1586
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 3: You know, you just have to know your quarterback and

1587
01:11:58,920 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 3: how you want to get down.

1588
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,520
Speaker 2: It's fine. I mentioned it's not an Alex Smith experiment

1589
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 2: coming into the segment because I remember when Alex Smith

1590
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 2: was on Kansas City and that Patrick Mahomes basically on

1591
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 2: the bench, didn't they was Patrick mahonsby an understudy for

1592
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 2: a year, right, And that's the way it's going to be.

1593
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers was an understudy and basically that's the way

1594
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 2: it used to be in the NFL. You draft the

1595
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 2: quarterback and he'd sit with the clipboard and wait a

1596
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 2: year or two and then he plays. But I guess

1597
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 2: now with the salaries being so steep, you got to say, look,

1598
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 2: we're paying you get out there and play. Isn't that

1599
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 2: the reasoning why.

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01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 3: Some of that is? But some would say, like, hey,

1601
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 3: get him that experience. But we've seen that been successful

1602
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 3: taking board of that car before they need him slowly,

1603
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 3: developing him on the practice field, giving him bits and

1604
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 3: pieces of playing time into preseason and otherwise, and then

1605
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 3: the fourth season he appears ready to play and play

1606
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 3: at a high level. They're different approaches, but we've also

1607
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 3: seen others take a different thing. A We're just going

1608
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 3: to drop you in the water and you're gonna have

1609
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 3: to figure out how to swim. A lot of it

1610
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 3: depends on I would say, the kid, the player that

1611
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 3: you're coaching, can they take it like can they take

1612
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,600
Speaker 3: hard coaching? Or their team that kind of needs to

1613
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 3: be built up a little bit. I mean, you have

1614
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 3: to know the personnel. You have to know what works

1615
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 3: best for your top player.

1616
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 2: What happens to Justin Fields right now? I mean, what's

1617
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 2: going through his head right now? Is saying like, Wow,

1618
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 2: you know, I may be out of here, but you know,

1619
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 2: do you stay with him? Because he's got the NFL

1620
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 2: experience and he didn't do a bad job, you know

1621
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 2: with the Bears, he didn't much have much on the

1622
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 2: offensive side of the football to help him out. But seriously,

1623
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 2: what happens to Justin Fields?

1624
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1625
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 3: Now that's I mean, that's a significant there's a million

1626
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 3: dollar question that's a huge question. I would if I

1627
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 3: was in charge of Bears, I would keep Fields and

1628
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 3: draft Kaleb Williams, and I would let them compete to

1629
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 3: be the starter because I'm gonna need to back up

1630
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 3: quarterback anyway. So Justin Fields this year makes six million dollars,

1631
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 3: that's top backup quarterback money. That's fine, But I will

1632
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 3: keep him in the fole he already knows, or he

1633
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 3: will learn the system alongside Killer Williams. To me, there's

1634
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 3: nothing wrong with that. Saw the Charges do that with

1635
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 3: Drew Brees and Philip Rivers. Drew Brees was there, held

1636
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 3: onto the position for two years before Philip Rivers was

1637
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 3: able to wrestle it away from him, and Drew Brees

1638
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,560
Speaker 3: went from being a guy that was horrendous as a

1639
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 3: player to being a league MVP, and a lot of

1640
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 3: that is due to the time that he spent down,

1641
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 3: you know, doing it. So I just think it's an

1642
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 3: opportunity to sit, learn, develop, become a better player, and

1643
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 3: then get onto the field.

1644
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 2: Still growing pains right there, But you don't like the

1645
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins idea, I guess I like Kirk Cousins win.

1646
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 2: Now I know it's money it's a lot of money.

1647
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 3: But still, yeah, the only thing about yeah, the only

1648
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 3: thing about the only thing about Kirk Cousins, Like when

1649
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 3: we talk about win now, I don't know if Kirk

1650
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 3: Cousins is really a win now quarterback. Like I know,

1651
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 3: his yards and those things are great, but he's not

1652
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 3: a prime time player. He hasn't played well in the clutch.

1653
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 3: And so when you're talking about a we're gonna win

1654
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 3: right now, I don't know if he's a forced multiplier

1655
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 3: like that at quarterback that you can pestle them. Man.

1656
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 3: Maybe in a different situation, maybe if you put Kirk

1657
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 3: Cousins in Pittsburgh, or maybe Kirk Cousins works in Atlanta.

1658
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 3: I don't know if Kirk Cousins works or it's a significant,

1659
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 3: uh impact player, difference maker in Chicago.

1660
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 2: Well, losing to the to the Giants last year in

1661
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 2: the playoff game, that hurt That hurt him big time.

1662
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 2: I remember last year when that.

1663
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 3: Oh I certainly did. I mean but and he has

1664
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 3: a number of those moments on it and you know

1665
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 3: in his career, no.

1666
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 2: Doubt about that. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy fermiweel Fox

1667
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 2: Football Sunday of Fox Sports Radio. Now it's like a

1668
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 2: breath of fresh air. We call it bottom barrel betting,

1669
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 2: and it's freaking next bottom barrel betting right around the bend. Yes,

1670
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 2: he is Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy furmerweel Fox Football Sunday.

1671
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 2: We'll lie from the tirock dot com studios.

1672
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 7: We've got a gate to play.

1673
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 2: Let's play it. Think it's bottom was.

1674
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 7: Funny to sleep?

1675
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 1: People, get my money.

1676
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 7: I'll put your brain to sleep.

1677
01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and here's the man who runs the show,

1678
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 2: the Iman Iman number two.

1679
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 8: Here, Ronny, Hello, imn morning guys. How's it going.

1680
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 2: I'll let you know in a couple of minutes.

1681
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 8: Okay, well you know what.

1682
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 9: We're actually gonna start with a little bit of a

1683
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 9: score update here.

1684
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 8: If you recall last week Bucky was up.

1685
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 3: What was Bucky up?

1686
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 8: He was up four to one.

1687
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 9: But now, uh, last week Bucky went three and Andy

1688
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 9: had two.

1689
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 8: So look at it.

1690
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 9: Even of a splay overall score update. BUCkies at seven,

1691
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 9: Andy's at three, So you got some ground to make up, Andy,

1692
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 9: but you're not out of it anyway. We'll start with snooker,

1693
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 9: Mark Selby minus two oh five versus Tom Ford plus

1694
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 9: one sixty two.

1695
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 8: Andy, Who you got?

1696
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 2: Selby? I got Selby right there? Selby?

1697
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 3: All right?

1698
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 8: Selby? Bucky? Who you got?

1699
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 2: You know he's not going where Selby? Of course, yeah,

1700
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 2: he got the greatest thing going everything I get. You

1701
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 2: get the other one.

1702
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 8: You it's been working, so.

1703
01:16:59,200 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 3: You're next first.

1704
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 9: Also, snooker, we got Neil Robertson minus one fifteen versus

1705
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 9: Kyron Wilson, also minus one fifteen.

1706
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 8: Bucky, let's start with you.

1707
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 3: That's a tough one because you started to saying I'm

1708
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 3: gonna go with Neil Neil Robertson.

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01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 8: Is it Robertson or Robertson Robertson with a T?

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01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 2: Then I got him because you must be related to

1711
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 2: the big old Oscar Robertson, and that's some great jeans

1712
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 2: and I love.

1713
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 8: Oscar, all right, So we're both in agreement on that one.

1714
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 8: All right.

1715
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 9: Next, y'all are talking about hockey for a second earlier.

1716
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 9: We're actually gonna go over to the Ontario Hockey League.

1717
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 9: We got the Ottawa sixty sevens plus two hundred versus

1718
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,879
Speaker 9: the Saginaw Spirit minus three hundred.

1719
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 8: Andy will start with you.

1720
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the home team. The Ottawa sixty seven's.

1721
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 8: All right, and Bucky, I assume that spirit.

1722
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 2: Why are they called the sixty seven?

1723
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 9: You know, I was actually wondering that too. I you know, what,

1724
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 9: how about I how about I get back to you

1725
01:17:58,400 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 9: guys with an answer on that next year.

1726
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 2: That'd be great.

1727
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, let's go all right, I'm gonna go opposite.

1728
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 8: All right, spirit for bucket.

1729
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 9: All right, We're moving over to lacrosse. We got the

1730
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 9: Colorado Mammoth at plus one ninety versus the San Diego

1731
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 9: Seals minus two sixty.

1732
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 8: Andy.

1733
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 2: This is pro lacrosse, pro lacrosse, Colorado Mammoth. I I

1734
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 2: never heard of these teams. Uh, you know, I just

1735
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 2: think San Diego may be the team the Seals because

1736
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 2: the climate's better. Is a more practice time outdoors than

1737
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 2: in Colorado's too cold like that with the game is

1738
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:36,759
Speaker 2: in San Diego.

1739
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 8: Uh, it is in San Diego, Santa Definitely.

1740
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 2: I got the Seals, no doubt about that.

1741
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, I'm I'm going with Colorado because they're ready

1742
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 3: to get in some warm weather. They can be motivated.

1743
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 3: They'll be motivated to get it down on the road.

1744
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 8: All right.

1745
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 2: They're motivated because I picked the other team. That's why

1746
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:56,640
Speaker 2: they're motivated.

1747
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 9: Gee last, but certainly not least darts. We got Nathan

1748
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 9: astmanall at minus one twenty versus Darryl Gurney at minus

1749
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 9: one ten.

1750
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 8: Bucky who you got?

1751
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 4: Let's go with Gurney.

1752
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 3: Let's go with Gurney once. Let's go with Gurney.

1753
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 2: And you know what, though, I'm gonna not do the

1754
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks routine. I'm going with Gurnie too. How's that.

1755
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 2: I'm going with Gurnie. We're probably both Look.

1756
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 4: We're just gonna push them.

1757
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 2: You're just gonna push.

1758
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 8: Hell, yeah, yeah, push.

1759
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna catch you.

1760
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,600
Speaker 9: You too, are in agreement on two of them, so

1761
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 9: there's there's only three opportunities to catch him.

1762
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 3: Here, he said, he said here and told me that

1763
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 3: you're you're Dan Campbell fanning you over here.

1764
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, let me get Nathan. I'm changing, Can I change?

1765
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1766
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 2: I don't want Daryld, I don't want Gurney. I want Nathan.

1767
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 2: And this is for Dave Campbell.

1768
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,719
Speaker 3: And then you and then and now you're like Brandon Staley.

1769
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 3: So now you believe it? Did you turn it?

1770
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 2: Because let me go. I'm going with Nathan, You're right.

1771
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 2: I'm with Dan Campbell guy, I'm a riverboat gambler. There

1772
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 2: you go, all right, Well, using money on this, thank goodness,

1773
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 2: not using money on these deals. Huh wow? Where you

1774
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 2: getting these these guys from these games and stuff?

1775
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 9: Lacrosse generally, Bovada is a good one that you can

1776
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 9: find some good random bottom barrel sports. But uh yeah,

1777
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 9: Bovada is usually the go to. There's a few good

1778
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 9: sites out there, though.

1779
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 2: Now Ian the Eye man here, Honestly, are there people

1780
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 2: that you know that are actually gambling like on these

1781
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 2: games like Colorado and San Diego and lacrosse? Really?

1782
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 9: Absolutely, the fact that the lines exist tells you there's

1783
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 9: at least some people betting on it, right.

1784
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 2: I can't believe it, you know, you really, it's almost

1785
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 2: a disease. I'm not going on that.

1786
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 8: I agree.

1787
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 9: I'm not brave enough for it. But it's available if

1788
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 9: you want it, So.

1789
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 2: I don't get it, all right, He's Bucky Brooks. I'm

1790
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 2: athy for me. By the way. Mike Harmon aka the

1791
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 2: Swollen Dome joins the fun right here.

1792
01:20:55,960 --> 01:21:01,080
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1793
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1794
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1795
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1801
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:38,120
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1802
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1803
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Speaker 7: the greatness, because that is what it is. It is

1804
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 7: Super Bowl Week right alongside us, our guy five years

1805
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 7: in the league, working in the league, you were asking

1806
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,480
Speaker 7: them all about siphoned funds earlier and begging for gambling

1807
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:00,920
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1808
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 7: NFL Network, Fox Sports One. You see him everywhere, you

1809
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 7: hear him everywhere. He is a renaissance man. It's our guy,

1810
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 7: Bucky Brooks at Bucky Brooks at Big Play Football over

1811
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 7: there in the Instagram world. Guys, what a crazy week

1812
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 7: it has been stories galore, as you guys were talking

1813
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 7: about a little bit earlier. I was on the drive

1814
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 7: in coaching carousel has finally stopped. We've got everybody in

1815
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 7: a place, We've got a couple of the notable holdouts.

1816
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 7: Heard you talking about Belichick, and I think it immediately

1817
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 7: gets us to jump to the two other guys that

1818
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 7: well don't have head coaching jobs. One who's in a

1819
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 7: front office right now, seemingly held captive, and that's Pete Carroll.

1820
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 7: The other guy being Mike Vrabel sitting out there. Maybe

1821
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:49,600
Speaker 7: some of the Bill Belichick style maybe part of the

1822
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 7: reason that he's sitting this go around. But I offered

1823
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,679
Speaker 7: the theory of maybe because there aren't a lot of spots.

1824
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 7: There weren't a lot of spots this go around where

1825
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 7: there was a quarterback and you were ready to go,

1826
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 7: that maybe looked around and some of these jobs just

1827
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 7: weren't for him. Jim Harbaugh gets the plumb gig obviously

1828
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 7: with Justin Herbert, and he came out here quoting Shawshank,

1829
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 7: Redemption and all sorts of other fun saying he's gonna

1830
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 7: live in an RV. What do you think about that?

1831
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 7: Andy want to live in an RV out here.

1832
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 2: Sometimes when you're a genius, and I consider Jim Harbor

1833
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 2: football genius, you've gotta be a little eccentric, and he is.

1834
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, I think, what he has done

1835
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,799
Speaker 2: throughout his career pro in college is nothing short of amazing.

1836
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 2: I mean, he gets a bum rap because of what

1837
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,879
Speaker 2: happened in Michigan and the cheating, the alleged cheating situation.

1838
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 2: Look what he did at Stanford turned Stanford around Michigan

1839
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 2: a national champion. I mean the forty nine ers until

1840
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 2: that last year, I think it was like eight and eight,

1841
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 2: but he had a wonderful run of the fortynine. And

1842
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 2: this guy is a absolute football genius, a hell of

1843
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 2: a coach, and he's gonna win in LA There's no

1844
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 2: doubt in my mind.

1845
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 7: Well, I just always loved the pressers Bucky, I mean

1846
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 7: riches for us here in Los Angeles.

1847
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 3: No, he's a perfect guy to come along. You talk

1848
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 3: about just the excitement that he brings. I was actually

1849
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 3: surprised at how open and funny and look, he's a

1850
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 3: little quirky for sure, but I think it's a lot

1851
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 3: different than what they had previously at that situation in

1852
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 3: terms of a guy who was engaged in the media. Uh,

1853
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 3: his engagement was just great. I like the insight. He

1854
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:29,679
Speaker 3: was just talking about little We're gonna be tough, talented

1855
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 3: and respected to win titles. To me, that's someone who

1856
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 3: doesn't run from the expectations of LA in general.

1857
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:36,680
Speaker 2: Uh.

1858
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 3: That hasn't necessarily been the expectations for the charges, But

1859
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 3: he knows the landscape of the city, he knows what

1860
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 3: he's gonna bring, and to me, he's gonna use the

1861
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 3: same recipe that he did at US, University of San Diego, Stanford, Niners, Michigan.

1862
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 3: It's gonna be about talent and toughness and physicality and

1863
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 3: overwhelming people. I can't wait to see what it looks like.

1864
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 2: And he's got the quarterback. He's the key. He's got

1865
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 2: the quarterback, and you hit it on the head swollen Dome.

1866
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:01,799
Speaker 2: You know these other guys that are on the outside

1867
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 2: looking at it, like Belichick of rabel Believe me, no

1868
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 2: one has given the complete story. I still believe Belichick

1869
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 2: said a yeah, I'd rather wait because he realized you

1870
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 2: can't win this league out a quarterback. He's proof positive.

1871
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 2: Was it twenty nine to thirty eight? Since Brady left.

1872
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just found it funny, right, Rich McKay's moving

1873
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 7: over to the soccer side of things for a year.

1874
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 7: You guys catch that in all the notes of what

1875
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 7: Atlanta did there and look they bring back and we

1876
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 7: talked about it a lot last week with Rhee Morris,

1877
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 7: but with Belichick. Yeah, I mean, there's obviously going to

1878
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 7: be more more to the story. We're not going to

1879
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 7: get it all Harbaugh in Michigan. How much of stuff

1880
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 7: that may have come out gets buried now that he's gone,

1881
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 7: right that there becomes a handshake, agreement missed, he missed time. Right,

1882
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 7: people can say what they want. And in the end

1883
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 7: they won the national title. Take nothing away from it. Right,

1884
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 7: it was a machine that rolled on. You looked at

1885
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 7: the NFL style defense because I want to get into

1886
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 7: Michael Pennix junior uped and out in last second at

1887
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 7: the Senior Bowl. I thought that was kind of an

1888
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 7: interesting little maneuver there. But you know, he was still suspended,

1889
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 7: like there was still stuff and from all reports, there

1890
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 7: was still plenty still swirling around, which is why he

1891
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 7: was trying to get the you can't fire me for

1892
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 7: cause clause into things. So It's like, don't tell me

1893
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 7: there's nothing there. Right, he was still suspended the whole time.

1894
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 7: Now he got to do all practices during the week

1895
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 7: and just couldn't be out there on Saturday. But you

1896
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,759
Speaker 7: know the fact that they won the title doesn't remove

1897
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 7: all of that. We cannot like the rules, we can

1898
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 7: fight about, you know, what should be enforced, what isn't.

1899
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 7: The fact of the matter is, and they're dying. The

1900
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 7: last vestiges of the NCAA decided to go at him

1901
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 7: and they made, you know, made an example of hey,

1902
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 7: we still at least have a little bit of power here.

1903
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 7: And then the end it didn't matter because Michigan went

1904
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 7: out and bludgeoned everybody.

1905
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,600
Speaker 2: You know what I like though, when a couple of

1906
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 2: the candidates who were interviewing for the Washington command job

1907
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 2: and eventually Dan Quinn got the job, is they got

1908
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 2: ownership that's basketball minded.

1909
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 3: Now.

1910
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 2: Josh Harris is one of the owners as the owner

1911
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 2: of the Committee's he's a pot owner of the Philadelphia

1912
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 2: seventy sixties. So you know, I don't know if that

1913
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 2: comes at the play, I mean, would it would he

1914
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 2: be a basketball.

1915
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 7: They hired Bob Myers as Bob Church Committee, right, the

1916
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 7: former Golden State Warriors Kingpinn. So, I you know some

1917
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 7: of that and how much are we getting that of

1918
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 7: reality there right between contract demands versus the basketball side.

1919
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 7: There's just a lot of noise right now around Ben Johnson, Bucky,

1920
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 7: I mean, anything you can give us there to try

1921
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 7: to no I.

1922
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 3: Mean, I know, Look, you heard in the middle of

1923
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 3: the year where people talked about the exorbitant contract demands

1924
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 3: that might come out for being Johnson, He's a high candidate.

1925
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 3: People don't really know how much NFL coaches make, and

1926
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 3: so when the number came out that maybe he's asking

1927
01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 3: for fifteen million annually, that made some people pause because

1928
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 3: that's they as they say, that's the Sean Payton Harba McDonald, Yeah,

1929
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 3: that's that's that's that's big money. And so for Ben

1930
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 3: Johnson asked for that, there were a lot of people

1931
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 3: that were turned off by that. And so obviously you

1932
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 3: heard from the commander side that he didn't interview well, uh,

1933
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:20,640
Speaker 3: I didn't appear to have it together. Then you heard

1934
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:23,759
Speaker 3: from his side about too many basketball players. They appeared

1935
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,679
Speaker 3: a little too confident that they could figure everything out.

1936
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 3: It just just didn't work. The one thing that we

1937
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 3: know he went back, He's gonna have another opportunity. Bobby

1938
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 3: Slowick parlayed an interview into more money from the Texans,

1939
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 3: and those guys would be the names that we talk

1940
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 3: about and we go forward. I think the interesting thing

1941
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 3: Andy's talked about the Bill Belichick thing, right, and Bill

1942
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 3: Belichick waiting. When you're over seventy, you don't have a

1943
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 3: whole lot of time to wait for the perfect situation. Sure,

1944
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 3: you know, and if he wants George, if he wants

1945
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 3: Don Shula's mark, he has to kind of get to it.

1946
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 3: And I think it was more we're going through a

1947
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 3: thing because everything ebbs and flows right. You have a

1948
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 3: lot of people that are guarding their desks, right. And

1949
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 3: we've been in corporate situations where the boss may not

1950
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 3: do what's best for the company, but he does what's

1951
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 3: best for him in retaining his job. Some of the

1952
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 3: decisions that might have been made during the coaching cycle

1953
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 3: might have been about self preservation of your own job,

1954
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 3: as opposed to let me get the best guy for

1955
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 3: the team, and even if the best guy for the

1956
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 3: team may demote me or move me out, this is

1957
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 3: what's best for the team. I don't think everybody was

1958
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 3: thinking that when it came to the Falcon situation with

1959
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick and maybe some of the other situations that

1960
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 3: might involve Mike Rabel based on how Mike Rabel exed

1961
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 3: it or was dismissed from the Tennessee Titans.

1962
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 2: So you say, what's best for DC, what's best for

1963
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 2: the team? Buck, I think what's best for Bill Belichick.

1964
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 2: It was not best for him to go to Atlanta

1965
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 2: when there's a quarterback situation. Look, there's only one opening

1966
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 2: that had a quarterback that's worthy of maybe a coach

1967
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 2: going there could and that was Jim Harbaugh with Justin

1968
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 2: Herbert with LA with the Chargers. Other than that, there's

1969
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 2: too many quarterback questions out there, and many coaches say, look,

1970
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fail with this guy. I don't want to fail.

1971
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 3: That's it and Andy, But it's only thirty two jobs

1972
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 3: out there, and normally if a job is open, it's

1973
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 3: open for a reason. Normally you don't have the quarterback.

1974
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 3: And so your job is the coach, is to figure

1975
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 3: out how I can win with what I have until

1976
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,640
Speaker 3: I can win with what I want. And so for

1977
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick, who has been able to do it a

1978
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 3: bunch of different ways. I mean, look, if he wanted

1979
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 3: a gig, he certainly had to go after it. I

1980
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 3: think this is a situation where maybe people don't buy

1981
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:42,640
Speaker 3: into him as much, and maybe, like, look, age is

1982
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 3: a factor when you're seventy plus years old, you also wonder, well,

1983
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 3: how long can he stay on the job? You know,

1984
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 3: are we gonna do all this commit to him? Then

1985
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 3: in two years he's gonna be tired because he's older.

1986
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 2: They're saying that about a president there's eighty plus.

1987
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, we are going down that road.

1988
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 6: Okay, wait, no, no, no, no, no, you are not

1989
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 6: taking me third rail this early in the morning out.

1990
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:06,679
Speaker 2: I tried, I try.

1991
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 7: But there's an argument like, even if you go there

1992
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 7: in a very tiptoe kind of way, why don't we

1993
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,720
Speaker 7: find more people since you are legally allowed to run

1994
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 7: for president as of thirty five, now, why don't we

1995
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 7: have more of a spread in terms of candidacy and such?

1996
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 7: So it is one of those, but certainly for head coaching,

1997
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 7: we saw a'll skew a lot younger. Right, we're talking

1998
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 7: thirty six year old guys getting job. Thirty seven year

1999
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 7: old guys. You guys were talking about ex players and

2000
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 7: player empowerment as part of it. But I got to

2001
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 7: ask the obvious questions since you guys brought his name up,

2002
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 7: Dan Quinn, what am I missing here? Bucky? You just

2003
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:51,680
Speaker 7: got rid of a defensive coach. Now maybe you had

2004
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 7: more control because of that power vacuum, and now things

2005
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 7: are being re established and all. But you bring in

2006
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 7: a defensive coach and you have the number two overall pick.

2007
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 7: I'm sitting if that's not a prime spot to go

2008
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 7: get an offensive guy and try to get this thing pushing.

2009
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 7: I know they were dead last in terms of total defense,

2010
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:11,560
Speaker 7: giving up over thirty points per game, but this is

2011
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 7: one of the highers that as like, really damn Quinn?

2012
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 3: Huh.

2013
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 4: Well, a couple of different things.

2014
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 3: One when we thought was thinking about head coaches in

2015
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 3: terms of offense and defense. I think we make the

2016
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 3: mistake of kind of putting them in a bucket. The

2017
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 3: head coach is responsible for the entire team, and the

2018
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 3: head coach needs to be a guy that can stand

2019
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 3: in front of the team and really lead the team.

2020
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:34,600
Speaker 3: You're here people use the leader of men, so that

2021
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 3: has something to do with it, And I'll say this,

2022
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 3: and I'll be honest with you. Some of the offensive coaches,

2023
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 3: some of the candidates that we talk about, they're quirky, like.

2024
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:44,599
Speaker 3: Those guys have their nose buried in the play sheet

2025
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 3: where they're not great communicators when it comes to the team.

2026
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 3: Mike and Daniels may be a great coach, but he's

2027
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 3: a little quirky like. Just think about some of the

2028
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 3: oddball offensive coaches that we've seen that have gotten here jobs,

2029
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 3: Adam Gase and some of the others. I think when

2030
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 3: you're sitting there talking to these guys, it's one thing

2031
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 3: to be able to kind of like drop the x's

2032
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 3: and o's on the whiteboard. It's another thing to be

2033
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 3: able to tell the team directly exactly what they need

2034
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 3: to be successful. That's what we're seeing. Five of the

2035
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 3: eight candidates that were ed came from the defensive side

2036
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 3: of the ball. I think people are going away from

2037
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 3: that part of it to who's the guy that can

2038
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:26,759
Speaker 3: give me the best leader? And I know everyone always

2039
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 3: talks about bussy when you hire a defensive guy, if

2040
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 3: he gets the offense up and going, he's going to

2041
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 3: lose the offensive coordinator well as the head coach. Your

2042
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 3: job is to put a system in place that look,

2043
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,680
Speaker 3: regardless of who the play caller is, this is what

2044
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 3: we run for our team and it doesn't change, you know.

2045
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 3: And that was the one thing that Belichick did for

2046
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:47,879
Speaker 3: a long time with the Patriots because they had numerous

2047
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 3: offensive coordinators, but when the offensive coordinator came there, they

2048
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:53,719
Speaker 3: handed them. Look, that's the last one. But I would

2049
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,839
Speaker 3: even say this, Matt Patricia performed better than Bill O'Brien

2050
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 3: as the offensive course if you look at the numbers.

2051
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:02,639
Speaker 3: And so he had a static playbook for dan Quinn.

2052
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 3: Everyone wants to dump on dan Quinn. Dan Quinn got

2053
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 3: his team to a super Bowl in Atlanta. Now they

2054
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 3: lost it, but he got his team to a super Bowl.

2055
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 3: So it's not like this dude can't coach. It's just

2056
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 3: that he wasn't the sexy higher that everyone anticipated because

2057
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 3: everyone had their mouth fixed for a Ben Johnson, a Slovak,

2058
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 3: someone that came with an offense that was going to

2059
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 3: be sexy and dynamic, and it just didn't happen.

2060
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 2: But the trend hasn't been Usually, if you have an

2061
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 2: offensive minded head coach and you get rid of him,

2062
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 2: usually go in the other direction for the next coach

2063
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 2: a defensive guy. That was the trend usually in the NFL.

2064
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like normally you go in terms of like opposites attract,

2065
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:47,639
Speaker 3: But I've always thought like the opposites would be from

2066
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 3: a personality standpoint, meaning if you had a heavy handed disciplinarian,

2067
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 3: then you went and got the players coach to Roy

2068
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 3: right guy. If you had the Rod right guy, you

2069
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 3: got the heavy handed disciplinarian the next time. I think

2070
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 3: what Adam Peters wants is what he had in San Francisco,

2071
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 3: what he was a part of a collaborative effort to

2072
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 3: get the team going. Well, when you think about Adam Peters,

2073
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 3: maybe centers of influence. Cayle Shanahan is one of his buddies.

2074
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:17,600
Speaker 3: Where the Kyle Shanahan come from before he was San Francisco,

2075
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 3: Atlanta working under who dan Quinn and so maybe that

2076
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 3: exchange of information. Naw, dan Quinn is a great guy.

2077
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 3: He'll get it going, he understands the program. He can

2078
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 3: find an offensive coordinator a pair him with this. I

2079
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 3: think there were more to it than just hey, let's

2080
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 3: go get the best offensive mine because we can get

2081
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 3: the number two overall pick and We're going to take

2082
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 3: care of that side of the ball. I think there

2083
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:42,600
Speaker 3: were more factors in play when it came to what

2084
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 3: Adam Peters wanted to do.

2085
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 7: I did like to call the sack moment for Micah

2086
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 7: Parsons this week though, goes out of his way to

2087
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 7: sandbag scheme and coaches and everything. And then as soon

2088
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 7: as Dan Quinn gets hired, Hey, take care of my guy.

2089
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 7: Take care of my guy out there. He'll be great.

2090
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:01,799
Speaker 7: Atlanta with the number eight pick for this year, Washington

2091
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:05,879
Speaker 7: of course at number two, the aforementioned New England Patriots

2092
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 7: sitting there at three. Yeah, we've got chaos. Tennessee at seven,

2093
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 7: So top ten. All about you guys talked about the

2094
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 7: Chicago situation. I know that's been a hot button topic

2095
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 7: and will continue to be so for the next couple

2096
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 7: of months.

2097
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 2: The Chicago situations. Chris Collins, that's your situation being fined.

2098
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 7: That was great, That's one of the greatest exits ever.

2099
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,799
Speaker 7: Of course, then you go and lose against Minnesota, right,

2100
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 7: you got to come back off of that. You had

2101
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 7: a great, hard fought game for those that missed it,

2102
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 7: Northwestern losing the other day at Purdue, great effort down

2103
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 7: the stretch.

2104
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 2: Booted No, that's tried.

2105
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 7: A couple of players had to come over and stop

2106
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 7: him from well maybe attacking set official.

2107
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 6: But I do like that.

2108
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 7: He went and he shook Matt Painter's hands. He went

2109
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 7: and gave Edie a hug. He gave some hugs to

2110
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 7: the players down the line from Purdue, waved to the fans,

2111
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 7: and then went to the podium and was as sarcastic

2112
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 7: as you could possibly be when you talk about a

2113
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 7: forty six to eight free throw disparity. Forty six to

2114
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 7: eight gentlemen crazy?

2115
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 3: Were they driving trying to get one foot into paint

2116
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 3: or were they shooting checking up threes?

2117
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:15,720
Speaker 4: I didn't see the game.

2118
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:21,720
Speaker 7: There's a lot of drives to the buckets. Yeah, so

2119
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 7: that's the thing.

2120
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 3: Buckets should be. It should be, some should be some

2121
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:25,680
Speaker 3: fouls call.

2122
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, just watching from the earlier games, earlier game in

2123
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 7: Evanston between the two more even in terms of free

2124
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 7: throw and the team's a bit more even in the

2125
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 7: way they play there. But you know, it's one loss,

2126
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 7: succeed and proceed. We'll talk about your team in a

2127
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 7: minute there, Bucky, because I mean, I know you're all

2128
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 7: Peacock and coming off of a big win and still

2129
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 7: wondering how much damage was done as people took to

2130
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:55,559
Speaker 7: the streets after a victory. But as we continue here

2131
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 7: at Fox Sports Radio, you guys had your top ten, Bucky,

2132
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 7: you went to the top ten list of people affected

2133
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 7: and legacies and all for the Super Bowl. I got

2134
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 7: a name who's tied to a bunch of those players,

2135
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Speaker 7: but who might come out as the king of the mall.

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Speaker 7: We'll talk about that coming up next, Sandy Ferman. It's

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Speaker 7: Bucky Brooks on by Carman. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 7: Welcome back in Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio Mike

2139
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:23,760
Speaker 7: Carmon alongside Andy Furman Bucky Brooks. Hey, football fans, be

2140
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 7: sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio every Sunday morning.

2141
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 7: In other words, just stay tuned. As we finish up

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Speaker 7: here ten am. Easter at seven o'clock Pacific, It's Countdown

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2147
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Speaker 7: Start getting into some of the prop bets, some of

2148
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 7: the line movement, some of the storylines that may affect

2149
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 7: your wagering opportunities coming into Super Bowl next Sunday. So

2150
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 7: get that after we go off the air a little

2151
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 7: bit later on. Of course, you get the podcast of

2152
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:04,639
Speaker 7: our show Fox Football Sunday. Wherever you download your audio.

2153
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:07,760
Speaker 7: Take us with you. Evangelized to family and friends. Give

2154
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:09,880
Speaker 7: it five stars, tell us how pretty we are. We'll

2155
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 7: love you forever and ever and ever. Gentlemen, we're talking

2156
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:16,839
Speaker 7: about head coaches, but one guy that's in the spotlight

2157
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 7: for me coming into the Super Bowl an assistant No

2158
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 7: not Brendan Daly linebackers coach of the Chief who's already

2159
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 7: got five Super Bowl rings, But what about the job

2160
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 7: Steve Spagnolo has done there in Kansas City, all of

2161
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 7: the greatness, And I think you know, we always look

2162
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 7: for goats, and usually in the negative side of things.

2163
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 7: So last week became about why didn't the Ravens run

2164
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 7: the football? What are we doing here? You got snead

2165
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 7: with what are the plays that great plays that we'll

2166
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 7: have seen in recent playoff history? When he smashed the

2167
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:51,360
Speaker 7: ball away from Flowers heading towards the end zone. But

2168
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 7: for Spagnolo, this could be Super Bowl number four guys,

2169
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 7: and he's vank with some of the heavyweights along the way.

2170
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:02,439
Speaker 7: And if he were able to solve Shanahan in this offense,

2171
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 7: another feather in the cap towards becoming one of the

2172
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 7: all time great assistant coaches right on the offensive side.

2173
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 7: We always talked about Norville Turner. On the defensive side,

2174
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 7: I have a soft spot in my heart for the

2175
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:18,640
Speaker 7: great Wade Phillips, and now we add spag nolea to

2176
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 7: the list of wizards along the way. And he was

2177
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:24,799
Speaker 7: really complimentary of Rock Purty when he hit the podium.

2178
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 7: You would expect nothing less but a few said with

2179
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 7: the praise of all the different ways that he could

2180
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 7: hurt him. But a guy that I think in terms

2181
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 7: of that list, I would add him at number eleven

2182
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:34,520
Speaker 7: for you, Bucky.

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01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, look seaspec Nolo.

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Speaker 3: He's done a really, really good job and he doesn't

2185
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:43,240
Speaker 3: get enough credit because as much as we talk about

2186
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 3: the Kansas Chiefs, even in the lead up to the game,

2187
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:48,719
Speaker 3: we talk about Andy Reid, we talk about Pat Mahomes,

2188
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 3: we really don't talk about the reason why they're there,

2189
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 3: which is the defense. Defense is number two all year,

2190
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 3: I think number two scoring defense. They played really well.

2191
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 3: Chris Jones sparks away, but l Jerious need emerging as

2192
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 3: the number one corner and they're doing it with so

2193
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 3: many young guys when you look at it too deep,

2194
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 3: so many first and second year players finding ways to

2195
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 3: make contributions. This is a team that is undergoing a makeover.

2196
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 3: And the makeover, to me is one of the reasons

2197
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 3: why Pat Mahomes will eventually challenge Tom Brady for goat status.

2198
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 4: After they got whooped on Christmas Day by.

2199
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 3: The Las Vegas Raiders, they decided that, hey man, as

2200
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:30,920
Speaker 3: much as we want to be this high flying offensive team,

2201
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 3: we're going to kind of dial it back. We're gonna

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01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 3: be a super conservative team. The ball is gonna go

2203
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 3: to Pacheco, it's gonna go to Travis Kelce, Rashe Rice

2204
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 3: and Pat Mahomes just don't turn it over. We're gonna

2205
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 3: let our defense win it for us. And that's what

2206
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:47,760
Speaker 3: they've been able to do. And a lot of that

2207
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 3: is because SPACs has been so great at blitzing his

2208
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 3: way into success. They are blitzing people at a crazy rate.

2209
01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 3: They blitzed the snot out of Lamar Jackson and they dominated,

2210
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:03,639
Speaker 3: And so I think they're going to attack the forty

2211
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 3: nine ers in a way that was very similar to

2212
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 3: to what Baltimore did to kind of force broad pretty

2213
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 3: into a bad game, and we'll see if they can

2214
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 3: hold up.

2215
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Speaker 2: You know, let me say this, Expect number one. I

2216
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:15,400
Speaker 2: was sorry to see him go from the Giants that

2217
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 2: that that hurt me because as the team I grew

2218
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 2: up with. But you know, you talk about names of

2219
01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:24,360
Speaker 2: assistant coaches that always get bantered around to become a

2220
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:26,599
Speaker 2: head coach, and you never hear his name out there.

2221
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 2: And you know why because certain people know their role.

2222
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:30,640
Speaker 2: And what I mean by that. You know, you look

2223
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:33,599
Speaker 2: at the Peter principal. If you're a great teacher, doesn't

2224
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:35,840
Speaker 2: necessarily mean you're gonna be a great principal. You know,

2225
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:38,759
Speaker 2: you're a teacher, that's what you are in elementary school,

2226
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 2: junior high school. Who may be and these teachers say, well,

2227
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:42,560
Speaker 2: you know I wanted to become a principal. You know,

2228
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 2: maybe you were forced or maybe you were meant to

2229
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:47,760
Speaker 2: be a teacher, not an administrator, but a teacher. And

2230
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 2: maybe Spagnola has meant to be a defensive minded coordinator.

2231
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:54,679
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll make them an associate head coach in charge

2232
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:56,680
Speaker 2: of defense, whatever it may be. He may never be

2233
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 2: a head coach, and he never longs to be a

2234
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 2: head coach. I mean, you heard about the enemy all

2235
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 2: the time on that staff wanted to be a head coach,

2236
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 2: but you never heard about stag Nola wanted to be

2237
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 2: a head coach.

2238
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:09,080
Speaker 3: Well, because he got his opportunity, it didn't go.

2239
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 4: It didn't.

2240
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Speaker 3: It wasn't great when he was the same Louis, That's right,

2241
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:13,600
Speaker 3: it was.

2242
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 4: It wasn't great.

2243
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, it doesn't mean it doesn't mean that he

2244
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 3: couldn't do it better the second time around. But because

2245
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:24,759
Speaker 3: it was so, it went so left.

2246
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, as as the head coach, and then he

2247
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 7: got a second bite as an interim for the Giants.

2248
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:31,720
Speaker 7: He went one in three.

2249
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:34,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of losses.

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Speaker 7: So there you see, you pile up those and now

2251
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:40,639
Speaker 7: you just pile up wins in theory, stay in Kansas

2252
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:42,240
Speaker 7: City as long as you can to your point on

2253
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 7: the starting eleven there, Bucky. I mean, you got a

2254
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:48,560
Speaker 7: lot of guys drafted or acquired in twenty twenty or

2255
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 7: later Carl Loft is working alongside up front. You know

2256
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 7: when we talk about some of the great things, and

2257
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 7: the one to hold out that actually worked in Chris Jones.

2258
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 7: How about that? Of all of those that when we

2259
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 7: talked about all off season, there's the one that worked.

2260
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 7: I wanted to do a callback to your guys in

2261
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 7: Bottom Barrel Betting. You asked a question earlier, Andy Furman,

2262
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 7: and I had the answer, and I wanted to go,

2263
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 7: oh oh, pick me, But you know, it was dark

2264
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:17,880
Speaker 7: in the studio and Ian was locked in. I mean

2265
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:21,439
Speaker 7: he was locked in the Ottawa was sixty Seven's him?

2266
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:22,760
Speaker 3: You did well?

2267
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 7: The Yeah, they were established during Canada's centennial year of

2268
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:28,720
Speaker 7: nineteen sixty seven. That's it.

2269
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 2: Do you like that you knew that or you looked

2270
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 2: at it?

2271
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 7: No, I knew that. I concerned it, but I knew it.

2272
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 7: Like it's like the seventy six ers, right, we were

2273
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 7: talking about that a little bit too, right. Why why

2274
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 7: are they name that? Well, they just went for the obvious.

2275
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 7: So sometimes you don't overthink it.

2276
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:45,920
Speaker 5: I like that.

2277
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 7: Either that or you put it back up and you

2278
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:50,600
Speaker 7: start changing your name every couple of years, like you

2279
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:52,640
Speaker 7: do with the commanders. I mean, what will they be

2280
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 7: next under the new regime. You'll see they'll have some

2281
01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:58,760
Speaker 7: random mascot floating around that you'll be able to buy

2282
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:02,640
Speaker 7: a plushy of in no time flat. Hey, coming up

2283
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:05,679
Speaker 7: next as we continue, we've got more in the coaching carousel.

2284
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 7: We've got the dumpster fire that is the New York

2285
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:11,800
Speaker 7: Football Jets and Michael Pennix junior opting out of the

2286
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 7: Senior Bowl. Bad move, or so it seems for me.

2287
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 7: But we'll talk about that in a minute. First, we

2288
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 7: got our guy Kevin Wired over there. He's got an

2289
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 7: update and everything happening in the over and I want

2290
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:21,479
Speaker 7: to top kd up.

2291
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:21,600
Speaker 3: Well.

2292
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 7: I hope you guys like scoring, because in the NBA

2293
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:25,680
Speaker 7: on Saturday night, we got a lot of it and

2294
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,759
Speaker 7: a lot of big performances from star player Steph Curry,

2295
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 7: the top among them with sixty points. However, the Golden

2296
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 7: State Warriors lost to the Atlanta Hawks won forty.

2297
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:35,760
Speaker 6: One one thirty four.

2298
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 7: In over time, we saw Daron Fox score forty one

2299
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:42,040
Speaker 7: points for the Sacramento Kings, who were able to take

2300
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 7: business take care of business against the Chicago Bulls won

2301
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 7: twenty three one fifteen cam Thomas had forty points nets

2302
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:51,400
Speaker 7: over the seventy six ers won thirty six to one

2303
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 7: twenty one, and we saw Giannis get forty eight points

2304
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 7: as the Milwaukee Bucks were down twenty four at one point,

2305
01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 7: but they were able to come back and take out

2306
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:03,320
Speaker 7: the Allas Mavericks won twenty nine one at seventeen. Donovan

2307
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 7: Mitchell thirty one points as the Cleveland Cavaliers make it

2308
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:09,800
Speaker 7: five straight wins one seventeen one oh one winners at

2309
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 7: San Antonio, and the nixt nine game winning streak is

2310
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 7: over at the hands of the Los Angeles Lakers, who

2311
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:17,920
Speaker 7: win it at Madison Square. Garden won thirteen one oh

2312
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:20,920
Speaker 7: five behind twenty four points to Lebron James and eighteen

2313
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 7: rebounds from Anthony Davis. College hoops scores Number one Yukon

2314
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 7: over Saint John seventy seven to sixty four. The huge

2315
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:32,679
Speaker 7: rivalry on Tobacco Road saw number three Carolina over number

2316
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 7: seven Dude ninety three eighty four. In the Big twelve

2317
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:37,720
Speaker 7: Top ten matchup, Number eight Kansas takes down number four

2318
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 7: Houston seventy eight sixty five. Fifth rank Tennessee wins at

2319
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 7: number ten Kentucky one oh three ninety two, number eighteen

2320
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 7: Baylor beats number twelve Iowa State seventy sixty eight Cincinnati,

2321
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:49,960
Speaker 7: with the episode at number fifteen Texas Techs seventy five

2322
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 7: to seventy two, and number seventeen Utahs State upended by

2323
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:56,760
Speaker 7: San Diego State eighty one sixty seven. And in the

2324
01:46:56,960 --> 01:47:01,759
Speaker 7: NFL Cliff Kingsbury actually not gonna be the Raiders offensive coordinator.

2325
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:04,200
Speaker 7: We got an update of both Chefter and Ian Rappaport

2326
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:07,599
Speaker 7: saying that it'll be Luke Getzy that'll be the Raiders

2327
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 7: offensive coordinator for this upcoming season. And we did have

2328
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:16,599
Speaker 7: an injury report saying that Chiefs running back Jack McKinnon

2329
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:19,840
Speaker 7: gonna be designated to return from injured reserve. He has

2330
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 7: been dealing with a growing injury, so we'll see what

2331
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 7: his availability will be going forward for the Super Bowl.

2332
01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:27,479
Speaker 7: Back to you guys, thank you much, Kevin. If nothing else,

2333
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 7: it makes the chess game a little more because now

2334
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 7: you got to go back and look at plays and

2335
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:35,720
Speaker 7: formations with McKinnon, the gamesmanship begins. A couple of notes

2336
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:37,960
Speaker 7: off the NBA, guys, I went and saw the movie

2337
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 7: Argyle last night with my daughters, and obviously the Lakers

2338
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 7: and Knicks are getting after it. And if you know

2339
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:47,160
Speaker 7: my show at all with Jason Smith, a huge Knicks

2340
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 7: fan that you know, sometimes I want to sedate him

2341
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:53,679
Speaker 7: as they win. And then on the other side, justin

2342
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 7: Frostburg lifelong, you know, la guy Laker fan. My phone

2343
01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:00,680
Speaker 7: was buzzing in the cup holder like it was the

2344
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 7: shaking scenes of Jurassic Park. So like I knew exactly

2345
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:08,320
Speaker 7: what was going on in that game without ever having

2346
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:10,400
Speaker 7: to look at my phone. I got out. I'm like,

2347
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:12,880
Speaker 7: all right, so the Lakers won this game, sure enough.

2348
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:16,599
Speaker 7: There's like thirty messages for these idiots going back and forth,

2349
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:20,679
Speaker 7: and there's a meme that Frostburg always sends me that's

2350
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:23,759
Speaker 7: got this greasy looking guy holding up a Lakers logo

2351
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:26,719
Speaker 7: and pointing going Lakers. So I got that a bunch

2352
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:29,720
Speaker 7: and the other Hey, Steph Curry gave that sixty point

2353
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:32,639
Speaker 7: Jersey to Lindsey Loine. Anybody want to jump on board

2354
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 7: that one? No, okay, there you go. That's that's probably

2355
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:38,880
Speaker 7: gonna be worth a lot of money.

2356
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:39,080
Speaker 3: You know.

2357
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 7: He is one of the uh he became only the

2358
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:43,479
Speaker 7: second player after the age of thirty five to score

2359
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:45,840
Speaker 7: thirty or sixty points or more in a game, but

2360
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 7: they lost. But they lost, which is the trend in

2361
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 7: the NBA the last couple of weeks. If you noticed

2362
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 7: score a lot of points, you're a fifty to fifty

2363
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 7: proposition actually win the game.

2364
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm a conspiracist. I mean, and I

2365
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:02,800
Speaker 2: think my theory is this. The NBA TV ratings are flat,

2366
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 2: maybe even down. The interest is waning. They can't compete

2367
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:10,320
Speaker 2: with the NFL. Is the disparity is getting even wider

2368
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 2: between the NFL and the NBA. So maybe they were

2369
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 2: told we need something, we need some scoring, and guys

2370
01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:19,000
Speaker 2: are going blist at me. Joel Embiid's putting in seventy,

2371
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:22,160
Speaker 2: I mean sixty for Steph Curry. You know, people are

2372
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 2: just going crazy scoring. I don't think that's helping matters.

2373
01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 2: I really don't.

2374
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:28,080
Speaker 3: I mean, and it.

2375
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:31,439
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean anything because it's just you know, when Yannis

2376
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:34,559
Speaker 2: scored forty something last night, I don't see that happening

2377
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:36,599
Speaker 2: because it was a big deal back in the day

2378
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:39,360
Speaker 2: when a guy was scored thirty, and now it's almost

2379
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 2: every night some guys scoring thirty, forty, sixty. I don't

2380
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:45,000
Speaker 2: see it happening. But I think the league is kind

2381
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 2: of maybe mandating this to get some more interest and

2382
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:49,240
Speaker 2: hype with the NBA.

2383
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 3: Well, go ahead, buy No, it's kind of crazy to

2384
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 3: see all these guys on a heater, right, like just

2385
01:49:57,400 --> 01:50:00,880
Speaker 3: kind of boring for theirs. But it's a different time.

2386
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 3: I mean, NB going for seventy plus Steph Curry, we've

2387
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:07,679
Speaker 3: seen him go bananas, but he finally hits the sixty pointer.

2388
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:12,000
Speaker 3: Guys are are going crazy, but the league has kind

2389
01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:15,240
Speaker 3: of opened up the rules where we're seeing higher scores.

2390
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:17,439
Speaker 3: It kind of reminds me of what was it the

2391
01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 3: early eighties and stuff.

2392
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, go back to like points a game. Yeah, like the.

2393
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:26,280
Speaker 3: Nuggets going up and down the floor way back with

2394
01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 3: Doug Moe and those guys like Doug mull the coach

2395
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 3: kind of getting them up and going or whatever. It's

2396
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:33,400
Speaker 3: just a different time. It's free flowing. You can't really

2397
01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 3: play defense. Just the way that they've kind of legislated

2398
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:38,600
Speaker 3: hand checking and all of that freedom of movement, I

2399
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 3: think is what they've done. They've legislated all that stuff

2400
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:43,120
Speaker 3: out of it.

2401
01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:46,920
Speaker 7: It's just like in the NFL. It's the same thing, right,

2402
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:49,680
Speaker 7: all the rules against defensive players. Let's open it up

2403
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 7: to throw fifty plus three is a game too in

2404
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 7: the NBA. Well, but that's but that's the other side

2405
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:55,560
Speaker 7: of it, Andy is you got guys that if you

2406
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:58,360
Speaker 7: if you are on a heater from the outside, points

2407
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 7: will pile up pretty fast, right, I mean, Joel Embiid

2408
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:03,680
Speaker 7: did it the old fashioned way by actually hitting all

2409
01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 7: his free throws and then just living in the paint.

2410
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 7: And now we'll see when we see Joel Embiid again

2411
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:13,760
Speaker 7: right with the meniscus tear and flap and everything. Now

2412
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:16,559
Speaker 7: he may be done. And a lot of lamentation about

2413
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:19,240
Speaker 7: the sixty five games that have been imposed for all

2414
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:23,400
Speaker 7: the awards and honors, which look the Players Association, you know,

2415
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:25,720
Speaker 7: you know my feeling on these guys. I've been very

2416
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:28,240
Speaker 7: adamant about this. As soon as you allow those kind

2417
01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 7: of things to creep into your contracts where you could

2418
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:33,120
Speaker 7: lose out on forty eighty million dollars because you're not

2419
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 7: an All NBA player as a group, you got played

2420
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:38,080
Speaker 7: right exactly.

2421
01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, now, they they got him, They got him now.

2422
01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:43,200
Speaker 3: But the same argument would be made if you were

2423
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:46,680
Speaker 3: someone a Laker fan living on the East Coast and

2424
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:49,720
Speaker 3: you earmarked, Hey, we're gonna go watch the Lakers play

2425
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:52,320
Speaker 3: the Celtics because I want to see the rivalry. I

2426
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 3: want to see Lebron James play against that you show

2427
01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:57,040
Speaker 3: up in Lebron and ad or Sydney Street close.

2428
01:51:57,400 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

2429
01:51:57,960 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 7: They're getting ready for that game at the garden.

2430
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, that happened several years ago when

2431
01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:05,760
Speaker 2: Lebron the Lakers came to Indianapolis only came once a

2432
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:08,880
Speaker 2: year and the Lebron didn't play. I'm sure everybody wanted

2433
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:11,840
Speaker 2: to go see that game to see Lebron. It's not right, and.

2434
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:15,400
Speaker 4: So we can talk about that.

2435
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 3: But I will say this, regardless of whether it's a

2436
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:21,400
Speaker 3: sixty five game mandate or not, there's no way that

2437
01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:24,920
Speaker 3: Joel Nbe can win MVP if he's done now before

2438
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 3: allstin that's right, Like he can't he can't be in it.

2439
01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 10: I mean, we can acknowledge that you're you were having

2440
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:33,000
Speaker 10: a great year, but you didn't finish the year, and

2441
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 10: availability is part of the stuff.

2442
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:38,600
Speaker 3: You got to be available. We have to see you

2443
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 3: over time to see if you can sustain the level

2444
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 3: of success that you were having early in the year.

2445
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:46,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, the random nights off I'm sorry for Johnny and Susie.

2446
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 7: The Lakers still showed up and played a game, and

2447
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 7: that one might have been the best coaching job anybody did.

2448
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:56,559
Speaker 7: Was a d and Lebron on Thursday night against the Celtics.

2449
01:52:57,160 --> 01:53:00,160
Speaker 7: Lebron twenty three and eight career at the Garden. He's

2450
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:04,760
Speaker 7: won thirteen fourteen there as well. So, uh, Chaos, Dath

2451
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 7: and Sue. I'd be remiss if I didn't point out

2452
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 7: Caitlyn Clark with her thirty eight against Maryland Fox with

2453
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:12,599
Speaker 7: the TikTok cam? Did you did you get the TikTok

2454
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:13,439
Speaker 7: cam going Andy?

2455
01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:13,880
Speaker 2: Yes?

2456
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 7: Yes, since I know you loved Peacock and adding extra

2457
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,519
Speaker 7: devices and stuff to your to your viewing, you know,

2458
01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:21,599
Speaker 7: add another download.

2459
01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, the band of his existence. He didn't like that, right.

2460
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 2: Did you ever think that women's college basketball will be

2461
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 2: on primetime TV on a Saturday night and you to

2462
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:31,479
Speaker 2: think about that?

2463
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:33,439
Speaker 7: You got a breakthrough artists and then look over here

2464
01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:38,400
Speaker 7: at usc you had a Dat goes for fifty one. Yeah, yeah,

2465
01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 7: they beat They beat Stanford in a big upset, so

2466
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 7: huge stuff. And then they tried to debate her by

2467
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:46,880
Speaker 7: saying Kaitlin Clark, who she goes, don't be doing that.

2468
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:48,599
Speaker 7: Don't be doing that now.

2469
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:50,519
Speaker 4: No, she didn't need a cheese.

2470
01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 3: She didn't for her and yeah, and a time when

2471
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:58,240
Speaker 3: when everyone is trying to cannibalize stars and make them

2472
01:53:58,280 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 3: go against each other like she was wise. Oh no,

2473
01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 3: she's cool, she's a good player.

2474
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:04,080
Speaker 4: I'm not even going there.

2475
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:07,880
Speaker 3: I appreciated that part to avoid that stuff. But wait

2476
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:09,599
Speaker 3: a minute, Harmon, I can't let you off the hook.

2477
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:11,559
Speaker 3: Because we you just had this read and we went

2478
01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:14,680
Speaker 3: through all the news and all this other. Something kind of.

2479
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 7: Cross comes up next. I was gonna tak okay, I'm okay.

2480
01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 3: I was like, I was like, oh okay, I wrote it. Okay.

2481
01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, no, no, and he, you you know, laugh

2482
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:34,480
Speaker 7: at me, So that'll be I'm gonna laugh at you, like, yeah,

2483
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:36,200
Speaker 7: well I might. It might have taken.

2484
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 3: I just took I just took the Raiders off the

2485
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:39,360
Speaker 3: trade list.

2486
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:42,360
Speaker 7: For Justin Field, just wiped it.

2487
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 3: I was like, well, no, Justin Fields there, take him

2488
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:47,640
Speaker 3: off the Bengo card.

2489
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:50,520
Speaker 7: That is one viewer team that you have to consider

2490
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:53,840
Speaker 7: in the Justin Fields Olympics. We'll do that and we'll

2491
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 7: get back into Panics. Skipping the senior Bowl, as well

2492
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 7: as the limited play from others like you know you

2493
01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 7: cost guys opportunity. We'll talk about that coming up in

2494
01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 7: a moment. There's Andy Furman over there is Bucky Brooks.

2495
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 7: I'm by Carmen. This is Fox Football Sunday. Welcome back

2496
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:11,640
Speaker 7: into the tirerac dot Com Fox Sports Radio Studios. It's

2497
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 7: Fox Football Sunday Mike Carmon alongside Andy Furman, Bucky Brooks

2498
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 7: at Andy Ferman FSR where you find and find out

2499
01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:21,800
Speaker 7: what he's got popping his latest columns, radio work, all

2500
01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:25,400
Speaker 7: of that promoted there at Bucky Brooks as well for

2501
01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:30,840
Speaker 7: latest columns and insights across the league. And of course

2502
01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 7: you can grab the podcast wherever you get your audio.

2503
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:37,320
Speaker 7: Youan'll have it up here in short order. Fox Sports Weekends,

2504
01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:41,520
Speaker 7: look for Fox Football Sunday. Download it. Evangelize to your

2505
01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:43,600
Speaker 7: friends and family. It's a gift, you know. Just because

2506
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 7: the holidays are over doesn't mean you can't still give gifts.

2507
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:51,040
Speaker 7: We are a magnanimous people, no question about that. Guys.

2508
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:54,000
Speaker 7: You brought it up, Bucky. Let's just get to it.

2509
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:59,040
Speaker 7: LUGETSI there, Las Vegas Raiders, Antonio Pears, the head man.

2510
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:01,760
Speaker 7: He's brought in Marv Lewis, and now he brings in

2511
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 7: a guy. Look, the one thing the Bears did do

2512
01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:06,080
Speaker 7: well they ran the football. For as much as people

2513
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:10,200
Speaker 7: mocked the offense overall and questioned some of the decision

2514
01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 7: making and how much Justin Fields truly grew as a passer,

2515
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:18,600
Speaker 7: they did run the ball effectively between multiple running backs.

2516
01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:22,200
Speaker 7: So you bring that to Bear, I see what I

2517
01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:25,560
Speaker 7: did there, But that means you're probably not bringing Justin

2518
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:28,440
Speaker 7: Fields from the Bears. So you get back into the

2519
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:31,120
Speaker 7: play of you got Aidan O'Connell and now you have

2520
01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:35,440
Speaker 7: to figure out your quarterback position. But for the Raiders,

2521
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 7: you know, they make that move and Cliff Kingsbury is

2522
01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 7: still floating out in the wind, maybe to Washington, maybe

2523
01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 7: not Bucky. What do you make of it? Luke Getzi

2524
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:45,640
Speaker 7: and the fit there?

2525
01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:50,640
Speaker 3: You know, So I'm really trying to figure out a

2526
01:56:50,680 --> 01:56:54,920
Speaker 3: direction that ap wants to take this offense right, because

2527
01:56:55,080 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 3: when he took over, he talked about them being heavy handed,

2528
01:56:57,640 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 3: want to smash, wanted to give it to Josh Jake,

2529
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:02,800
Speaker 3: wanted to run the football, and they did that. They

2530
01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 3: became a more physical team in those things. When I

2531
01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:09,520
Speaker 3: think about Luke Getsy. Yeah, you bring up great points

2532
01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 3: when you talk about the Bears being able to successfully

2533
01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 3: run it. They did run it a ton They ran

2534
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:16,960
Speaker 3: it utilizing the quarterback near the end of the year.

2535
01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 3: I just kind of want to know what Luke Getsy

2536
01:57:19,600 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 3: hangs his hat on, and like who is he as

2537
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:26,840
Speaker 3: a play caller, as a offensive builder. I also wonder

2538
01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:31,160
Speaker 3: if there is some of the Packers stuff that Ap

2539
01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 3: and the Raiders want, meaning the Packers sat and developed

2540
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:36,960
Speaker 3: Jordan Love. Luke Getsey was there for a part of

2541
01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 3: that part, you know, like did he have the freedom

2542
01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 3: to do some of those things in Chicago that he

2543
01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:44,800
Speaker 3: saw and witness in Green Bay? Maybe he wanted to

2544
01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:47,480
Speaker 3: bring in So maybe he implements some of the stuff

2545
01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:50,440
Speaker 3: that the Packers did to develop their young players to

2546
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:53,240
Speaker 3: get them up and ready, because he won't have the

2547
01:57:54,040 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 3: stop sign that Aaron Rodgers was for the Green Bay Packers,

2548
01:57:57,120 --> 01:57:59,520
Speaker 3: and so maybe he's appealing in that regard that he

2549
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 3: couldn't do everything that maybe he wanted to do in Chicago,

2550
01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:05,120
Speaker 3: but he'll have the freedom to do in Las Vegas.

2551
01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:05,880
Speaker 4: You know.

2552
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:08,800
Speaker 2: But look, Antonio piss has always said, you gotta run

2553
01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:11,440
Speaker 2: the football. He likes to play action pass and if

2554
01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 2: you look at GETSI right now, and I know he's

2555
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:15,560
Speaker 2: got that bad rapp at him for Chicago. But look

2556
01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:18,320
Speaker 2: at the stats as far as the Bears are concerned.

2557
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:21,920
Speaker 2: Didn't they lead the league in rushing twenty two and

2558
01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:24,760
Speaker 2: what they finished a second or third last year in rushing?

2559
01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:26,680
Speaker 2: So you know they're gonna run the football. I mean,

2560
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:28,800
Speaker 2: and look credit to the Bears, I mean they lost

2561
01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:30,960
Speaker 2: David Montgomery and they still run the football.

2562
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:35,959
Speaker 7: Leads for the Lions, and obviously the justin fields yardage

2563
01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:39,200
Speaker 7: as you alluded to, Bucky helps augment that total, but

2564
01:58:39,280 --> 01:58:43,120
Speaker 7: all rushing yards to the same. Hey, Andy, are you

2565
01:58:43,160 --> 01:58:44,960
Speaker 7: a big sneaker guy at all?

2566
01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:50,360
Speaker 2: I usually wear the old school high top converse.

2567
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:52,000
Speaker 7: Okay. I was kind of hoping you were gonna tell

2568
01:58:52,040 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 7: me you were a Jordan guy, because I know.

2569
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 2: Bucky is you know I'm Jordan gut that I wouldn't

2570
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:56,520
Speaker 2: wear him.

2571
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:59,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, one a piece from the last games ninety three,

2572
01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:02,640
Speaker 7: ninety six, tinety seven, ninety eight. He had a tradition

2573
01:59:02,920 --> 01:59:04,840
Speaker 7: where he had a member of the staff where he

2574
01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:07,920
Speaker 7: would give one of his shoes from the last game

2575
01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:12,200
Speaker 7: of the championship series as a collection, gentlemen. They sold

2576
01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:17,760
Speaker 7: for eight million dollars at Sotheby's sign Shoes.

2577
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:21,000
Speaker 2: Now, even if you had the money to buy him,

2578
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:21,640
Speaker 2: would you wear them?

2579
01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:22,360
Speaker 9: No?

2580
01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:25,320
Speaker 7: No, no, that that just becomes a display piece under

2581
01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:28,440
Speaker 7: lock and key with alarms and in the proper conditioning.

2582
01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:31,520
Speaker 7: The problem is trying to keep them from disintegrating over time,

2583
01:59:32,440 --> 01:59:35,240
Speaker 7: you know, no matter how much you clean them. We

2584
01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 7: know that happens to Steers. So that's a that's a

2585
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:40,440
Speaker 7: tough eight million dollar investment there.

2586
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:44,040
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it was an investment. You think I

2587
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:45,320
Speaker 2: wouldn't call it an investment.

2588
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:47,720
Speaker 7: Well, at least short term it is. I mean you

2589
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:50,040
Speaker 7: could probably, you know, in short time, kind of flip

2590
01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:55,840
Speaker 7: those things market market for the small market. Well, but

2591
01:59:56,120 --> 01:59:58,720
Speaker 7: you know what, rich guys want to have the thing

2592
01:59:58,920 --> 02:00:00,680
Speaker 7: nobody else can, right mm hmmm.

2593
02:00:01,400 --> 02:00:02,920
Speaker 2: Whether it be a task case.

2594
02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:06,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, And when you come to the house for a party,

2595
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:08,760
Speaker 7: it's there, you know, Hey, under lock and key. Hey

2596
02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:13,280
Speaker 7: what's behind that screen? Oh wait, it's my Jordan's.

2597
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:15,080
Speaker 3: See.

2598
02:00:15,160 --> 02:00:16,840
Speaker 7: I've got this all planned out when I hit it

2599
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:19,839
Speaker 7: rich and you can come and hang it and admire

2600
02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:20,440
Speaker 7: my collection.

2601
02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:22,720
Speaker 2: If I win the lottery, that would be the last

2602
02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:25,880
Speaker 2: thing on my list to purchase, last thing, the last

2603
02:00:25,960 --> 02:00:28,240
Speaker 2: come on, not the last thing. You probably would be.

2604
02:00:28,440 --> 02:00:31,960
Speaker 7: Yes, we'll get Bill Belichick another gig and you'll be

2605
02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:34,880
Speaker 7: his sidekick. He's Andy Furman, that's Bucky on Mike. We

2606
02:00:34,920 --> 02:00:38,240
Speaker 7: continue next year on Fox. Greetings and welcome in another

2607
02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:43,680
Speaker 7: beautiful Sunday. They're preparing for biblical type storms here in

2608
02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:48,080
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2609
02:00:48,280 --> 02:00:51,600
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2615
02:01:08,040 --> 02:01:14,040
Speaker 7: as always by my guys Andy Furman Radio Broadcasting Promotions,

2616
02:01:14,360 --> 02:01:20,200
Speaker 7: Legend newspaper columns at Andy Furman FSR. Well, you know

2617
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:23,160
Speaker 7: what we build up to the greatness, because that is

2618
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:27,200
Speaker 7: what it is. It is Super Bowl Week. Right alongside us,

2619
02:01:27,240 --> 02:01:30,400
Speaker 7: our guy five years in the league, working in the league.

2620
02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:33,880
Speaker 7: You were asking him all about siphoned funds earlier and

2621
02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:39,040
Speaker 7: begging for gambling sites and give money back. It's our guy,

2622
02:01:39,200 --> 02:01:42,080
Speaker 7: NFL dot Com, NFL Network, Fox Sports One. You see

2623
02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:45,560
Speaker 7: him everywhere, You hear him everywhere. He is a renaissance man.

2624
02:01:45,600 --> 02:01:48,040
Speaker 7: It's our guy, Bucky Brooks at Bucky Brooks at Big

2625
02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:51,680
Speaker 7: Play Football over there in the Instagram world. Guys, what

2626
02:01:51,800 --> 02:01:55,200
Speaker 7: a crazy week. It has been stories galore. As you

2627
02:01:55,240 --> 02:01:56,880
Speaker 7: guys were talking about a little bit earlier. I was

2628
02:01:56,960 --> 02:02:01,320
Speaker 7: on the drive in coaching carousel has finally stopped. We've

2629
02:02:01,320 --> 02:02:03,840
Speaker 7: got everybody in a place. We've got a couple of

2630
02:02:03,920 --> 02:02:07,360
Speaker 7: the notable holdouts. Heard you talking about Belichick, and I

2631
02:02:07,480 --> 02:02:10,720
Speaker 7: think it immediately gets us to jump to the two

2632
02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:14,200
Speaker 7: other guys that well don't have head coaching jobs. One

2633
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:18,520
Speaker 7: who's in a front office right now, seemingly held captive,

2634
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:21,400
Speaker 7: and that's Pete Carroll. The other guy being Mike Vrabel

2635
02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:26,800
Speaker 7: sitting out there. Maybe some of the Bill Belichick style,

2636
02:02:27,800 --> 02:02:31,560
Speaker 7: maybe part of the reason that he's sitting this go around.

2637
02:02:31,720 --> 02:02:34,680
Speaker 7: But I offered the theory of maybe because there aren't

2638
02:02:34,800 --> 02:02:36,880
Speaker 7: a lot of spots. There weren't a lot of spots

2639
02:02:36,880 --> 02:02:38,600
Speaker 7: of this go around where there was a quarterback and

2640
02:02:38,680 --> 02:02:41,800
Speaker 7: you were ready to go that maybe looked around and

2641
02:02:42,320 --> 02:02:46,240
Speaker 7: some of these jobs just weren't for him. Jim Harbaugh

2642
02:02:46,320 --> 02:02:49,520
Speaker 7: gets the plumb gig obviously with Justin Herbert, and he

2643
02:02:49,640 --> 02:02:53,080
Speaker 7: came out here quoting Shawshank, Redemption and all sorts of

2644
02:02:53,160 --> 02:02:56,320
Speaker 7: other fun said, he's gonna live in an RV. What

2645
02:02:56,400 --> 02:02:58,880
Speaker 7: do you think about that? Andy wants to live in

2646
02:02:58,880 --> 02:02:59,680
Speaker 7: an RV out here.

2647
02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:02,640
Speaker 2: Sometimes when you're a genius, and I consider Jim Harborough

2648
02:03:02,640 --> 02:03:04,680
Speaker 2: football genius, you've got to be a little eccentric, and

2649
02:03:04,760 --> 02:03:07,400
Speaker 2: he is. I'll tell you what I think, what he

2650
02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:10,960
Speaker 2: has done throughout his career pro in college is nothing

2651
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:13,200
Speaker 2: short of amazing. I mean, he gets a bum rap

2652
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:15,440
Speaker 2: because of what happened in Michigan and the cheating, the

2653
02:03:15,640 --> 02:03:18,920
Speaker 2: alleged cheating situation. Look what he did at Stanford turned

2654
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:22,720
Speaker 2: Stanford around Michigan a national champion. I mean the forty

2655
02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:24,880
Speaker 2: nine ers until that last year, I think it was

2656
02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:27,080
Speaker 2: like eight and eight. But he had a wonderful run

2657
02:03:27,160 --> 02:03:27,680
Speaker 2: of the forty nine.

2658
02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:29,120
Speaker 7: And this guy is an.

2659
02:03:29,200 --> 02:03:33,520
Speaker 2: Absolute football genius, a hell of a coach, and he's

2660
02:03:33,560 --> 02:03:36,000
Speaker 2: gonna win in LA There's no doubt in my mind.

2661
02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:39,040
Speaker 7: Well, I just always love the pressers, Bucky, I mean

2662
02:03:40,120 --> 02:03:41,760
Speaker 7: riches for us here in Los Angeles.

2663
02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:44,480
Speaker 3: No, he's a perfect guy to come along.

2664
02:03:44,520 --> 02:03:46,440
Speaker 4: You talk about just the excitement that he brings.

2665
02:03:47,600 --> 02:03:53,280
Speaker 3: I was actually surprised at how open and funny and look,

2666
02:03:53,320 --> 02:03:58,440
Speaker 3: he's a little quirky for sure, but I think it's

2667
02:03:58,440 --> 02:04:00,480
Speaker 3: a lot different than what they had previous at that

2668
02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:02,720
Speaker 3: situation in terms of a guy who was engaged in

2669
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:06,360
Speaker 3: the media. His engagement was this great. I like the

2670
02:04:06,440 --> 02:04:08,160
Speaker 3: insight he was just talking about Lottle. We're gonna be tough,

2671
02:04:08,360 --> 02:04:11,200
Speaker 3: talented and respected to win titles. To me, that's someone

2672
02:04:11,240 --> 02:04:15,080
Speaker 3: who doesn't run from the expectations of LA in general.

2673
02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:19,000
Speaker 3: That hasn't necessarily been the expectations for the charges, But

2674
02:04:19,440 --> 02:04:21,520
Speaker 3: he knows the landscape of the city. He knows what

2675
02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:23,760
Speaker 3: he's gonna bring it to me. He's gonna use the

2676
02:04:23,800 --> 02:04:29,440
Speaker 3: same recipe that he did at US, University of San Diego, Stanford, Niners, Michigan.

2677
02:04:29,800 --> 02:04:32,360
Speaker 3: It's gonna be about talent and toughness and physicality and

2678
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:34,200
Speaker 3: overwhelming people. I can't wait to see what it looks like.

2679
02:04:34,400 --> 02:04:36,280
Speaker 2: And he's got the quarterback. He's got that's the key.

2680
02:04:36,280 --> 02:04:38,200
Speaker 2: He's got the quarterback and you hit it on the head,

2681
02:04:38,320 --> 02:04:40,280
Speaker 2: swollen dome. You know these other guys that are on

2682
02:04:40,360 --> 02:04:43,280
Speaker 2: the outside looking at it, like Belichick and Rabel. Believe me,

2683
02:04:43,800 --> 02:04:45,800
Speaker 2: no one has given me a complete story. I still

2684
02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:50,680
Speaker 2: believe Belichick said, Yeah, I'd rather wait. Was he realized

2685
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:52,880
Speaker 2: you can't win in this league without a quarterback? He's

2686
02:04:52,920 --> 02:04:55,360
Speaker 2: proved positive? Was there twenty nine to thirty eight since

2687
02:04:55,640 --> 02:04:56,320
Speaker 2: Brady left?

2688
02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:59,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just found it funny, right, Rich McKay's moving

2689
02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:02,640
Speaker 7: over the soccer side of things for a year. You

2690
02:05:02,720 --> 02:05:05,760
Speaker 7: guys catch that in all the notes of what Atlanta

2691
02:05:05,880 --> 02:05:08,280
Speaker 7: did there and look they bring back and we talked

2692
02:05:08,280 --> 02:05:10,800
Speaker 7: about it a lot last week with Rhee Morris, but

2693
02:05:11,320 --> 02:05:14,840
Speaker 7: with Belichick. Yeah, I mean there's obviously gonna be more

2694
02:05:15,520 --> 02:05:17,320
Speaker 7: more to the story. We're not gonna get at all

2695
02:05:17,440 --> 02:05:20,240
Speaker 7: Harbaugh in Michigan. How much of stuff that may have

2696
02:05:20,320 --> 02:05:23,800
Speaker 7: come out gets buried now that he's gone, right that

2697
02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:27,520
Speaker 7: there becomes a handshake agreement already missed, He missed time. Right,

2698
02:05:27,840 --> 02:05:30,000
Speaker 7: people can say what they want, and in the end,

2699
02:05:30,040 --> 02:05:33,000
Speaker 7: they won the national title. Take nothing away from it, right,

2700
02:05:33,080 --> 02:05:35,720
Speaker 7: it was a machine that rolled on. You looked at

2701
02:05:35,760 --> 02:05:38,160
Speaker 7: the NFL style defense because I want to get into

2702
02:05:38,160 --> 02:05:40,920
Speaker 7: Michael Pennix Junior up and uped and out in last

2703
02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:42,680
Speaker 7: second at the Senior Bowl. I thought that was kind

2704
02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:46,120
Speaker 7: of an interesting little maneuver there. But you know, he

2705
02:05:46,280 --> 02:05:49,600
Speaker 7: was still suspended, like there was still stuff, and from

2706
02:05:49,640 --> 02:05:52,720
Speaker 7: all reports there was still plenty still swirling around, which

2707
02:05:52,760 --> 02:05:54,640
Speaker 7: is why he was trying to get the you can't

2708
02:05:54,720 --> 02:05:58,520
Speaker 7: fire me for cause clause into things. So it's like,

2709
02:05:58,720 --> 02:06:02,800
Speaker 7: don't tell me there's nothing right. He's still suspended the

2710
02:06:02,840 --> 02:06:05,480
Speaker 7: whole time. Now, he got to do all practices during

2711
02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:07,720
Speaker 7: the week and just couldn't be out there on Saturday.

2712
02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:10,840
Speaker 7: But you know the fact that they won the title

2713
02:06:10,960 --> 02:06:14,400
Speaker 7: doesn't remove all of that. We cannot, like the rules,

2714
02:06:14,520 --> 02:06:18,040
Speaker 7: we can fight about, you know, what should be enforced,

2715
02:06:18,120 --> 02:06:20,720
Speaker 7: what isn't. The fact of the matter is, and they're dying.

2716
02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:24,080
Speaker 7: The last vestiges of the NCAA decided to go at

2717
02:06:24,160 --> 02:06:27,760
Speaker 7: him and they made, you know, made an example of hey,

2718
02:06:27,840 --> 02:06:29,880
Speaker 7: we still at least have a little bit of power here.

2719
02:06:30,240 --> 02:06:31,960
Speaker 7: And then the end it didn't matter because Michigan went

2720
02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:33,320
Speaker 7: out and bludgeoned everybody.

2721
02:06:34,480 --> 02:06:36,640
Speaker 2: You know what I like though, when a couple of

2722
02:06:36,720 --> 02:06:39,360
Speaker 2: the candidates who were interviewing for the Washington Commander's job,

2723
02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:42,440
Speaker 2: and eventually Dan Quinn got the job. Is I they

2724
02:06:42,520 --> 02:06:47,280
Speaker 2: got ownership that's basketball minded now. Josh Harris is one

2725
02:06:47,320 --> 02:06:49,600
Speaker 2: of the owners as the owner of the Commanders. He's

2726
02:06:49,640 --> 02:06:52,040
Speaker 2: a pot owner of the Philadelphia seventy six, So you know,

2727
02:06:52,760 --> 02:06:55,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if that comes into play, I mean,

2728
02:06:55,280 --> 02:06:57,760
Speaker 2: would would he be a basketball.

2729
02:06:57,640 --> 02:07:01,480
Speaker 7: They hired Bob Myers as search committee right the former

2730
02:07:01,560 --> 02:07:05,160
Speaker 7: Golden State Warriors Kingpinn. So I you know some of

2731
02:07:05,200 --> 02:07:07,919
Speaker 7: that and how much are we getting that of reality

2732
02:07:08,040 --> 02:07:13,680
Speaker 7: there right between contract demands versus the basketball side. There's

2733
02:07:13,720 --> 02:07:18,000
Speaker 7: just a lot of noise right now around Ben Johnson, Bucky.

2734
02:07:18,200 --> 02:07:20,800
Speaker 7: I mean, anything you can give us there to try.

2735
02:07:20,720 --> 02:07:24,720
Speaker 3: To no I mean, I know, look, you heard in

2736
02:07:24,720 --> 02:07:26,560
Speaker 3: the middle of the year where people talked about the

2737
02:07:26,680 --> 02:07:30,240
Speaker 3: exorbitant contract demands that might come out for Ben Johnson.

2738
02:07:30,280 --> 02:07:31,200
Speaker 4: He's a high candidate.

2739
02:07:31,720 --> 02:07:34,080
Speaker 3: People don't really know how much NFL coaches make and

2740
02:07:34,160 --> 02:07:36,040
Speaker 3: so when the number came out that maybe he's asking

2741
02:07:36,120 --> 02:07:39,680
Speaker 3: for fifteen million annually. Uh, that made some people pause

2742
02:07:39,880 --> 02:07:43,080
Speaker 3: because that's the they as they say, that's the Sean

2743
02:07:43,200 --> 02:07:48,440
Speaker 3: Payton hab. Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's that's big money,

2744
02:07:48,840 --> 02:07:50,640
Speaker 3: and so for Ben Johnson asked for that. There were

2745
02:07:50,640 --> 02:07:53,240
Speaker 3: a lot of people that were turned off by that.

2746
02:07:53,520 --> 02:07:55,440
Speaker 3: And so obviously you heard from the commander side that

2747
02:07:55,560 --> 02:07:59,040
Speaker 3: he didn't interview well, uh, didn't appear to have it together.

2748
02:07:59,280 --> 02:08:01,920
Speaker 3: Then you heard from his about too many basketball players.

2749
02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:04,880
Speaker 3: They appeared a little too confident that they could figure

2750
02:08:05,040 --> 02:08:08,840
Speaker 3: everything out. It just didn't work. The one thing that

2751
02:08:08,920 --> 02:08:11,040
Speaker 3: we know he went back, He's gonna have another opportunity.

2752
02:08:11,120 --> 02:08:15,320
Speaker 3: Bobby Slowick parlayed an interview into more money from the Texans,

2753
02:08:15,360 --> 02:08:17,200
Speaker 3: and those guys would be the names that we talk

2754
02:08:17,280 --> 02:08:21,520
Speaker 3: about and we go forward. I think the interesting thing

2755
02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:25,000
Speaker 3: Andy's talked about the Bill Belichick thing, right, and Bill

2756
02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:29,160
Speaker 3: Belichick waiting. When you're over seventy, you don't have a

2757
02:08:29,200 --> 02:08:32,280
Speaker 3: whole lot of time to wait for the perfect situation. Sure,

2758
02:08:32,480 --> 02:08:35,600
Speaker 3: you know, and if he wants George, if he wants

2759
02:08:35,640 --> 02:08:38,320
Speaker 3: Don Shula's mark, he has to kind of get to it.

2760
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:42,920
Speaker 3: And I think it was more we're going through a

2761
02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:45,480
Speaker 3: thing because everything ebbs and flows, right. You have a

2762
02:08:45,560 --> 02:08:48,080
Speaker 3: lot of people that are guarding their desks, right, And

2763
02:08:48,160 --> 02:08:51,920
Speaker 3: we've been in corporate situations where the boss may not

2764
02:08:52,080 --> 02:08:54,080
Speaker 3: do what's best for the company, but he does what's

2765
02:08:54,120 --> 02:08:57,000
Speaker 3: best for him in retaining his job. Some of the

2766
02:08:57,120 --> 02:08:59,880
Speaker 3: decisions that might have been made during the coaching cycle

2767
02:09:00,560 --> 02:09:03,760
Speaker 3: might have been about self preservation of your own job,

2768
02:09:04,240 --> 02:09:06,520
Speaker 3: as opposed to let me get the best guy for

2769
02:09:06,720 --> 02:09:08,480
Speaker 3: the team, and even if the best guy for the

2770
02:09:08,560 --> 02:09:11,240
Speaker 3: team may demote me or move me out, this is

2771
02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:13,760
Speaker 3: what's best for the team. I don't think everybody was

2772
02:09:13,840 --> 02:09:16,840
Speaker 3: thinking that when it came to the Falcon situation with

2773
02:09:17,200 --> 02:09:19,520
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick and maybe some of the other situations that

2774
02:09:19,640 --> 02:09:23,240
Speaker 3: might involve Mike Rabel based on how Mike Rabel exed

2775
02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:25,680
Speaker 3: it or was dismissed from the Tennessee Titans.

2776
02:09:25,960 --> 02:09:27,960
Speaker 2: So you say, what's best for excuse DC, what's best

2777
02:09:28,000 --> 02:09:30,320
Speaker 2: for the team? Buck? I think what's best for Bill Belichick.

2778
02:09:30,400 --> 02:09:32,400
Speaker 2: It was not best for him to go to Atlanta.

2779
02:09:32,440 --> 02:09:35,520
Speaker 2: When there's a quarterback situation. Look, there's only one opening

2780
02:09:35,600 --> 02:09:38,280
Speaker 2: that had a quarterback that's worthy of maybe a coach

2781
02:09:38,360 --> 02:09:40,680
Speaker 2: going there could win, and that was Jim Harbaugh with

2782
02:09:40,920 --> 02:09:43,120
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert with LA with the Chargers. Other than that,

2783
02:09:43,360 --> 02:09:46,680
Speaker 2: there's too many quarterback questions out there, and many coaches say, look,

2784
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:49,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fail with this guy. I don't want to fail.

2785
02:09:49,680 --> 02:09:52,680
Speaker 3: That's it and Andy, but it's only thirty two jobs

2786
02:09:52,720 --> 02:09:55,240
Speaker 3: out there, and normally if a job is open, it's

2787
02:09:55,320 --> 02:09:58,200
Speaker 3: open for a reason. Normally you don't have the quarterback.

2788
02:09:58,280 --> 02:10:00,600
Speaker 3: And so your job as the coach is to figure

2789
02:10:00,640 --> 02:10:03,040
Speaker 3: out how I can win with what I have until

2790
02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:05,680
Speaker 3: I can win with what I want. And so for

2791
02:10:05,760 --> 02:10:08,320
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick, who has been able to do it a

2792
02:10:08,400 --> 02:10:11,200
Speaker 3: bunch of different ways, I mean, look, if he wanted

2793
02:10:11,240 --> 02:10:14,960
Speaker 3: a gig, he certainly had to go after it. I

2794
02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:19,200
Speaker 3: think this is a situation where maybe people don't buy

2795
02:10:19,240 --> 02:10:21,680
Speaker 3: into him as much, and maybe, like, look, age is

2796
02:10:21,680 --> 02:10:25,240
Speaker 3: a factor. When you're seventy plus years old, you also wonder, well,

2797
02:10:25,240 --> 02:10:27,520
Speaker 3: how long can he stay on the job? You know,

2798
02:10:27,960 --> 02:10:29,600
Speaker 3: are we gonna do all this commit to him? Then

2799
02:10:29,640 --> 02:10:31,960
Speaker 3: in two years he's gonna be tired because he's older.

2800
02:10:32,440 --> 02:10:34,640
Speaker 2: They're saying that a president there's eighty plus.

2801
02:10:35,960 --> 02:10:37,760
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, we are going down that road now.

2802
02:10:38,200 --> 02:10:41,920
Speaker 6: Okay, no, no, no, no, you are not taking me

2803
02:10:42,040 --> 02:10:43,920
Speaker 6: third rail this early in the morning.

2804
02:10:44,280 --> 02:10:45,720
Speaker 2: Okay, I tried, I tried.

2805
02:10:46,800 --> 02:10:49,480
Speaker 7: But there's an argument like even if you go there

2806
02:10:49,600 --> 02:10:52,800
Speaker 7: in a very tiptoey kind of way, why don't we

2807
02:10:52,920 --> 02:10:55,760
Speaker 7: find more people since you are legally allowed to run

2808
02:10:55,840 --> 02:11:00,800
Speaker 7: for president as of thirty five, Now, why don't we

2809
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:04,240
Speaker 7: have more of a spread in terms of candidacy and such.

2810
02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:07,280
Speaker 7: So it is one of those, but certainly for head coaching,

2811
02:11:07,600 --> 02:11:11,200
Speaker 7: we saw all skew a lot younger. Right, we're talking

2812
02:11:11,280 --> 02:11:13,920
Speaker 7: thirty six year old guys getting job thirty seven year

2813
02:11:13,960 --> 02:11:18,360
Speaker 7: old guys. You guys were talking about ex players and

2814
02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:20,960
Speaker 7: player empowerment as part of it. But I got to

2815
02:11:20,960 --> 02:11:23,120
Speaker 7: ask the obvious questions since you guys brought his name up,

2816
02:11:24,200 --> 02:11:26,880
Speaker 7: dan Quinn, what am I missing here? Bucky? You just

2817
02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:30,720
Speaker 7: got rid of a defensive coach. Now maybe you had

2818
02:11:30,760 --> 02:11:33,400
Speaker 7: more control because of that power vacuum and now things

2819
02:11:33,440 --> 02:11:35,560
Speaker 7: are being re established and all. But you bring in

2820
02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:38,440
Speaker 7: a defensive coach and you have the number two overall pick.

2821
02:11:38,600 --> 02:11:40,640
Speaker 7: I'm sitting there going if that's not a prime spot

2822
02:11:40,720 --> 02:11:42,760
Speaker 7: to go get an offensive guy and try to get

2823
02:11:42,800 --> 02:11:45,080
Speaker 7: this thing pushing. I know they were dead last in

2824
02:11:45,200 --> 02:11:48,440
Speaker 7: terms of total defense, giving up over thirty points per game,

2825
02:11:48,960 --> 02:11:52,280
Speaker 7: but this is one of the HighRes that as like, really,

2826
02:11:52,760 --> 02:11:53,280
Speaker 7: dan Quinn?

2827
02:11:53,400 --> 02:11:53,520
Speaker 2: Huh?

2828
02:11:55,280 --> 02:11:57,040
Speaker 4: Well, A couple of different things.

2829
02:11:57,640 --> 02:11:59,360
Speaker 3: One when we thought I was thinking about, Hey, coaches

2830
02:11:59,400 --> 02:12:02,040
Speaker 3: and of offense and defense. I think we make the

2831
02:12:02,120 --> 02:12:04,320
Speaker 3: mistake of kind of putting them in a bucket. The

2832
02:12:04,560 --> 02:12:06,920
Speaker 3: head coach is responsible for the entire team, and the

2833
02:12:07,000 --> 02:12:08,840
Speaker 3: head coach needs to be a guy that can stand

2834
02:12:08,840 --> 02:12:11,440
Speaker 3: in from the team and really lead the team. You're here,

2835
02:12:11,520 --> 02:12:14,480
Speaker 3: people use the leader of men, So that has something

2836
02:12:14,520 --> 02:12:15,880
Speaker 3: to do with it. And I'll say this, and I'll

2837
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:18,320
Speaker 3: be honest with you. Some of the offensive coaches, some

2838
02:12:18,400 --> 02:12:20,840
Speaker 3: of the candidates that we talk about, they're quirky, like.

2839
02:12:20,920 --> 02:12:23,640
Speaker 3: Those guys have their nose buried in the play sheet

2840
02:12:23,920 --> 02:12:27,080
Speaker 3: where they're not great communicators when it comes to the team.

2841
02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:29,920
Speaker 3: Mike and Daniels may be a great coach, but he's

2842
02:12:29,960 --> 02:12:30,800
Speaker 3: a little quirky.

2843
02:12:31,280 --> 02:12:31,320
Speaker 2: Like.

2844
02:12:31,520 --> 02:12:35,280
Speaker 3: Just think about some of the odd ball offensive coaches

2845
02:12:35,320 --> 02:12:38,200
Speaker 3: that we've seen that have gotten here jobs, Adam Gase

2846
02:12:38,280 --> 02:12:40,880
Speaker 3: and some of the others. I think when you're sitting

2847
02:12:41,000 --> 02:12:44,480
Speaker 3: there talking to these guys, it's one thing to be

2848
02:12:44,520 --> 02:12:46,640
Speaker 3: able to kind of like drop the x's and o's

2849
02:12:46,680 --> 02:12:49,160
Speaker 3: on the whiteboard. It's another thing to be able to

2850
02:12:49,240 --> 02:12:53,720
Speaker 3: tell the team directly exactly what they need to be successful.

2851
02:12:53,960 --> 02:12:54,640
Speaker 4: That's what we're seeing.

2852
02:12:54,800 --> 02:12:57,120
Speaker 3: Five of the eight candidates that were hired came from

2853
02:12:57,160 --> 02:12:59,560
Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball. I think people are

2854
02:12:59,640 --> 02:13:03,440
Speaker 3: going away from that part of it to who's the

2855
02:13:03,480 --> 02:13:04,880
Speaker 3: guy that can give me the best leader? And I

2856
02:13:04,960 --> 02:13:07,160
Speaker 3: know everyone always talks about bussy when you hire a

2857
02:13:07,200 --> 02:13:09,200
Speaker 3: defensive guy, if he gets the offense up and going,

2858
02:13:09,400 --> 02:13:12,520
Speaker 3: he's gonna lose the offensive coordinator. Well, as the head coach,

2859
02:13:12,880 --> 02:13:15,840
Speaker 3: your job is to put a system in place that look,

2860
02:13:16,120 --> 02:13:18,720
Speaker 3: regardless of who the play caller is, this is what

2861
02:13:18,880 --> 02:13:22,120
Speaker 3: we run for our team and it doesn't change, you know.

2862
02:13:22,240 --> 02:13:24,160
Speaker 3: And that was the one thing that Belichick did for

2863
02:13:24,240 --> 02:13:26,919
Speaker 3: a long time with the Patriots because they had numerous

2864
02:13:27,040 --> 02:13:29,960
Speaker 3: offensive coordinators, but when the offensive coordinator came there, they

2865
02:13:30,040 --> 02:13:32,760
Speaker 3: handed them. Look, that's the last one. But I would

2866
02:13:32,800 --> 02:13:35,880
Speaker 3: even say this, Matt Patricia performed better than Bill O'Brien

2867
02:13:35,920 --> 02:13:38,280
Speaker 3: as the offensive course if you look at the numbers,

2868
02:13:38,560 --> 02:13:41,680
Speaker 3: and so he had a static playbook for dan Quinn.

2869
02:13:41,760 --> 02:13:44,680
Speaker 3: Everyone wants to dump on dan Quinn. Dan Quinn got

2870
02:13:44,720 --> 02:13:45,280
Speaker 3: his team to a.

2871
02:13:45,280 --> 02:13:46,360
Speaker 4: Super Bowl in Atlanta.

2872
02:13:46,680 --> 02:13:48,880
Speaker 3: Now they lost it, but he got his team to

2873
02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:51,600
Speaker 3: a super Bowl. So it's not like this dude can't coach.

2874
02:13:51,960 --> 02:13:55,400
Speaker 3: It's just that he wasn't the sexy higher that everyone

2875
02:13:55,600 --> 02:13:59,879
Speaker 3: anticipated because everyone had their mouth fixed for a Ben Johnson,

2876
02:14:00,720 --> 02:14:03,400
Speaker 3: a Slovak, someone that came with an offense that was

2877
02:14:03,480 --> 02:14:06,520
Speaker 3: going to be sexy and dynamic, and it just didn't happen.

2878
02:14:06,920 --> 02:14:10,160
Speaker 2: But the trend hasn't been Usually, if you have an

2879
02:14:10,200 --> 02:14:12,560
Speaker 2: offensive minded head coach and you get rid of him,

2880
02:14:12,760 --> 02:14:14,720
Speaker 2: usually go in the other direction for the next coach.

2881
02:14:14,520 --> 02:14:15,240
Speaker 3: A defensive guy.

2882
02:14:15,360 --> 02:14:17,040
Speaker 2: That was the trend usually in the NFL.

2883
02:14:19,520 --> 02:14:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like normally you go in terms of like opposites attract,

2884
02:14:23,400 --> 02:14:26,680
Speaker 3: But I've always thought like the opposites would be from

2885
02:14:26,720 --> 02:14:30,120
Speaker 3: a personality standpoint, meaning if you had a heavy handed disciplinarian,

2886
02:14:30,160 --> 02:14:31,960
Speaker 3: then you went and got the players coach to Roy

2887
02:14:32,040 --> 02:14:33,840
Speaker 3: right guy. If you had the Rod right guy, you

2888
02:14:33,960 --> 02:14:37,320
Speaker 3: got the heavy handed disciplinarian the next time. I think

2889
02:14:37,480 --> 02:14:43,800
Speaker 3: what Adam Peters wants is what he had in San Francisco,

2890
02:14:43,880 --> 02:14:46,360
Speaker 3: what he was a part of a collaborative effort to

2891
02:14:46,400 --> 02:14:47,360
Speaker 3: get the team going.

2892
02:14:47,840 --> 02:14:48,040
Speaker 4: Well.

2893
02:14:48,400 --> 02:14:51,800
Speaker 3: When you think about Adam Peters, maybe centers of influence.

2894
02:14:52,120 --> 02:14:54,640
Speaker 3: Cal Shanahan is one of his buddies. Whether Cayle Shanahan

2895
02:14:54,760 --> 02:14:58,240
Speaker 3: come from before he was San Francisco, Atlanta working under

2896
02:14:58,280 --> 02:15:02,720
Speaker 3: who dan Quinn? So maybe that exchange of information.

2897
02:15:02,920 --> 02:15:03,040
Speaker 1: Naw.

2898
02:15:03,160 --> 02:15:04,880
Speaker 3: Dan Quinn is a great guy. He'll get it going.

2899
02:15:05,240 --> 02:15:08,760
Speaker 3: He understands the program. He can find an offensive coordinator

2900
02:15:08,840 --> 02:15:11,200
Speaker 3: a pair him with this. I think there were more

2901
02:15:11,360 --> 02:15:14,200
Speaker 3: to it than just hey, let's go get the best

2902
02:15:14,600 --> 02:15:16,800
Speaker 3: offensive mine because we can get the number two overall

2903
02:15:16,840 --> 02:15:18,640
Speaker 3: pick and we're going take care of that side of

2904
02:15:18,680 --> 02:15:21,000
Speaker 3: the ball. I think there were more factors in play

2905
02:15:21,040 --> 02:15:22,760
Speaker 3: when it came to what Adam Peters wanted to do.

2906
02:15:22,960 --> 02:15:24,960
Speaker 7: I did like to cull the sack moment for Micah

2907
02:15:25,000 --> 02:15:27,440
Speaker 7: Parsons this week, though, goes out of his way to

2908
02:15:27,760 --> 02:15:31,120
Speaker 7: sandbag scheme and coaches and everything. And then as soon

2909
02:15:31,160 --> 02:15:33,280
Speaker 7: as dan Quinn gets hired, Hey, take care of my guy.

2910
02:15:34,040 --> 02:15:36,280
Speaker 7: Take care of my guy out there, he'll be great.

2911
02:15:36,720 --> 02:15:40,839
Speaker 7: Atlanta with the number eight pick for this year, Washington

2912
02:15:40,920 --> 02:15:44,919
Speaker 7: of course at number two, the aforementioned New England Patriots

2913
02:15:44,960 --> 02:15:48,600
Speaker 7: sitting there at three. Yeah, we've got chaos. Tennessee at seven.

2914
02:15:48,720 --> 02:15:51,800
Speaker 7: So top ten all about you. Guys talked about the

2915
02:15:52,200 --> 02:15:55,640
Speaker 7: Chicago situation. I know that's been a hot button topic

2916
02:15:55,720 --> 02:15:57,480
Speaker 7: and will continue to be so for the next couple

2917
02:15:57,520 --> 02:15:58,040
Speaker 7: of months.

2918
02:15:57,960 --> 02:16:02,320
Speaker 2: The Chicago situations, Chris Colin, that's your situation being fined.

2919
02:16:02,560 --> 02:16:03,200
Speaker 5: That was great.

2920
02:16:03,440 --> 02:16:06,480
Speaker 7: That's one of the greatest exits ever. Of course, then

2921
02:16:06,520 --> 02:16:09,240
Speaker 7: you go and lose against Minnesota, right, you got to

2922
02:16:09,280 --> 02:16:11,800
Speaker 7: come back off of that. You had a great, hard

2923
02:16:11,880 --> 02:16:15,560
Speaker 7: fought game for those that missed it, Northwestern losing the

2924
02:16:15,680 --> 02:16:19,960
Speaker 7: other day at Purdue, great effort down the stretch, bo

2925
02:16:20,160 --> 02:16:20,879
Speaker 7: he strained.

2926
02:16:21,680 --> 02:16:22,000
Speaker 3: I tried.

2927
02:16:22,000 --> 02:16:24,040
Speaker 7: A couple of players had to come over h and

2928
02:16:24,280 --> 02:16:28,480
Speaker 7: stop him from well maybe attacking set official, But I

2929
02:16:28,560 --> 02:16:31,120
Speaker 7: do like that. He went and he shook Matt Painter's hands.

2930
02:16:31,440 --> 02:16:33,520
Speaker 7: He went and gave Edie a hug. He gave some

2931
02:16:33,640 --> 02:16:36,920
Speaker 7: hugs to the players down the line from Purdue, waved

2932
02:16:36,959 --> 02:16:39,040
Speaker 7: to the fans, and then went to the podium and

2933
02:16:39,280 --> 02:16:41,840
Speaker 7: was as sarcastic as you could possibly be when you

2934
02:16:41,920 --> 02:16:44,560
Speaker 7: talk about a forty six to eight free throw disparity

2935
02:16:45,320 --> 02:16:47,920
Speaker 7: forty six to eight gentlemen, crazy.

2936
02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:51,879
Speaker 3: Series. Were the driving trying to get one foot into

2937
02:16:51,879 --> 02:16:53,920
Speaker 3: paint or were they shooting checking up threes?

2938
02:16:53,959 --> 02:16:54,760
Speaker 4: I didn't see the game.

2939
02:16:55,400 --> 02:17:00,640
Speaker 7: There was a lot of drives to the buckets. Yeah,

2940
02:17:00,720 --> 02:17:01,680
Speaker 7: so that's the thing.

2941
02:17:01,840 --> 02:17:03,800
Speaker 3: Buck it should be. It should be some should be

2942
02:17:03,879 --> 02:17:04,720
Speaker 3: some foules call.

2943
02:17:04,879 --> 02:17:09,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, just watching from the earlier games. Earlier game in

2944
02:17:09,120 --> 02:17:13,800
Speaker 7: Evanston between the two more even in terms of free

2945
02:17:13,879 --> 02:17:17,400
Speaker 7: throw and the team's a bit more even in the

2946
02:17:17,480 --> 02:17:20,000
Speaker 7: way they play there. But you know, it's one loss.

2947
02:17:20,200 --> 02:17:23,040
Speaker 7: Succeed and proceed. We'll talk about your team in a

2948
02:17:23,120 --> 02:17:25,520
Speaker 7: minute there, Bucky, because I mean, I know you're all

2949
02:17:25,600 --> 02:17:28,320
Speaker 7: peacock and coming off of a big win and still

2950
02:17:28,360 --> 02:17:31,120
Speaker 7: wondering how much damage was done as people took to

2951
02:17:31,200 --> 02:17:34,600
Speaker 7: the streets after a victory. But as we continue here

2952
02:17:35,320 --> 02:17:38,600
Speaker 7: at Fox Sports Radio, you guys had your top ten, Bucky,

2953
02:17:38,720 --> 02:17:41,800
Speaker 7: you went through the top ten list of people affected

2954
02:17:41,879 --> 02:17:44,920
Speaker 7: and legacies and all for the Super Bowl. I got

2955
02:17:45,000 --> 02:17:47,480
Speaker 7: a name who's tied to a bunch of those players,

2956
02:17:48,120 --> 02:17:50,720
Speaker 7: but who might come out as the king of the mall.

2957
02:17:50,879 --> 02:17:52,960
Speaker 7: We'll talk about that coming up next. Sandy Fermitt, It's

2958
02:17:53,000 --> 02:17:55,560
Speaker 7: Bucky Brooks on by Karmen. This is Fox Sports Radio.

2959
02:17:56,480 --> 02:17:59,400
Speaker 7: Welcome back in Fox Football Sunday at Fox Sports Radio,

2960
02:17:59,480 --> 02:18:02,720
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2961
02:18:02,800 --> 02:18:05,520
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2962
02:18:06,000 --> 02:18:08,080
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2963
02:18:08,120 --> 02:18:10,680
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2964
02:18:10,720 --> 02:18:13,920
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2965
02:18:14,120 --> 02:18:17,680
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2966
02:18:17,720 --> 02:18:20,800
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2967
02:18:20,879 --> 02:18:24,520
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2968
02:18:24,560 --> 02:18:26,400
Speaker 7: getting into some of the prop bets, some of the

2969
02:18:26,520 --> 02:18:29,879
Speaker 7: line movement, some of the storylines that may affect your

2970
02:18:30,000 --> 02:18:34,720
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2971
02:18:34,800 --> 02:18:37,280
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2972
02:18:37,400 --> 02:18:39,600
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2973
02:18:39,680 --> 02:18:43,959
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2974
02:18:44,000 --> 02:18:46,880
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2975
02:18:46,959 --> 02:18:49,119
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2976
02:18:49,160 --> 02:18:52,560
Speaker 7: you forever and ever and ever. Gentlemen, we're talking about

2977
02:18:52,600 --> 02:18:56,000
Speaker 7: head coaches. Lot one guy that's in the spotlight for

2978
02:18:56,120 --> 02:18:58,760
Speaker 7: me coming into the Super Bowl. An assistant No, not

2979
02:18:58,959 --> 02:19:01,960
Speaker 7: Brendan daily line backers coach of the chief who's already

2980
02:19:02,000 --> 02:19:04,360
Speaker 7: got five Super Bowl rings. But what about the job

2981
02:19:04,440 --> 02:19:09,360
Speaker 7: Steve Spagnolo has done. They're in Kansas City, all of

2982
02:19:09,440 --> 02:19:12,720
Speaker 7: the greatness and and I think, you know, we always

2983
02:19:12,720 --> 02:19:15,720
Speaker 7: look for goats, and usually in the negative side of things.

2984
02:19:15,959 --> 02:19:18,600
Speaker 7: So last week became about why didn't the Ravens run

2985
02:19:18,680 --> 02:19:21,400
Speaker 7: the football? What are we doing here? You got snead

2986
02:19:21,480 --> 02:19:23,880
Speaker 7: with what are the plays that great plays that will

2987
02:19:23,879 --> 02:19:27,440
Speaker 7: have seen in recent playoff history when he smashed the

2988
02:19:27,520 --> 02:19:30,440
Speaker 7: ball away from Flowers heading towards the end zone. But

2989
02:19:30,560 --> 02:19:33,280
Speaker 7: for Spagnolo, this could be Super Bowl number four guys,

2990
02:19:34,040 --> 02:19:37,400
Speaker 7: and he's bank with some of the heavyweights along the way,

2991
02:19:37,560 --> 02:19:41,480
Speaker 7: and if he were able to solve Shanahan and this offense,

2992
02:19:42,080 --> 02:19:44,880
Speaker 7: another feather in the cap towards becoming one of the

2993
02:19:44,920 --> 02:19:48,120
Speaker 7: all time great assistant coaches. Right on the offensive side.

2994
02:19:48,160 --> 02:19:52,000
Speaker 7: We always talked about Norvell Turner. On the defensive side,

2995
02:19:52,040 --> 02:19:54,320
Speaker 7: I have a soft spot in my heart for the

2996
02:19:54,360 --> 02:19:57,840
Speaker 7: great Wade Phillips, and now we add Spagnola to the

2997
02:19:57,879 --> 02:20:00,720
Speaker 7: list of wizards along the way. And he was really

2998
02:20:00,760 --> 02:20:04,360
Speaker 7: complimentary Rock Party. When he hit the podium. You would

2999
02:20:04,400 --> 02:20:06,800
Speaker 7: expect nothing less, but if you should with the praise

3000
02:20:07,120 --> 02:20:08,920
Speaker 7: of all the different ways that he could hurt him.

3001
02:20:09,120 --> 02:20:11,080
Speaker 7: But a guy that I think in terms of that list,

3002
02:20:11,120 --> 02:20:13,560
Speaker 7: I would add him at number eleven for you, Bucky.

3003
02:20:15,640 --> 02:20:18,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, look seaspect Noilo.

3004
02:20:18,120 --> 02:20:20,320
Speaker 3: He's done a really, really good job and he doesn't

3005
02:20:20,320 --> 02:20:22,280
Speaker 3: get enough credit because as much as we talk about

3006
02:20:22,280 --> 02:20:25,119
Speaker 3: the Kansas Chiefs, even in the lead up to the game,

3007
02:20:25,200 --> 02:20:27,760
Speaker 3: we talk about Andy Reid, we talk about Pat Mahomes,

3008
02:20:28,360 --> 02:20:30,480
Speaker 3: we really don't talk about the reason why they're there,

3009
02:20:30,560 --> 02:20:33,400
Speaker 3: which is the defense. Defense was number two all year,

3010
02:20:33,440 --> 02:20:36,240
Speaker 3: I think number two scoring defense. They played really well.

3011
02:20:37,000 --> 02:20:39,840
Speaker 3: Chris Jones sparks the way, but lagerious need emerging as

3012
02:20:39,879 --> 02:20:42,280
Speaker 3: the number one corner and they're doing it with so

3013
02:20:42,400 --> 02:20:44,160
Speaker 3: many young guys when you look at it too deep,

3014
02:20:44,560 --> 02:20:47,840
Speaker 3: so many first and second year players finding ways to

3015
02:20:48,000 --> 02:20:52,080
Speaker 3: make contributions. This is a team that has undergoing a makeover,

3016
02:20:52,560 --> 02:20:55,279
Speaker 3: and the makeover, to me is one of the reasons

3017
02:20:55,320 --> 02:20:59,320
Speaker 3: why Pat Mahomes will eventually challenge Tom Brady for goat status.

3018
02:21:00,280 --> 02:21:04,080
Speaker 3: After they got whooped on Christmas Day by the Las

3019
02:21:04,160 --> 02:21:07,840
Speaker 3: Vegas Raiders, they decided that, hey man, as much as

3020
02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:11,000
Speaker 3: we want to be this high flying offensive team, we're

3021
02:21:11,080 --> 02:21:13,520
Speaker 3: going to kind of dial it back. We're gonna be

3022
02:21:13,520 --> 02:21:16,600
Speaker 3: a super conservative team. The ball is gonna go to Pacheco.

3023
02:21:16,800 --> 02:21:20,640
Speaker 3: It's gonna go to Travis Kelce, Rashe Rice and Pat Mahomes.

3024
02:21:21,000 --> 02:21:22,840
Speaker 3: Just don't turn it over. We're gonna let our defense

3025
02:21:22,920 --> 02:21:25,280
Speaker 3: win it force and that's what they've been able to do.

3026
02:21:26,320 --> 02:21:27,960
Speaker 3: And a lot of that is because SPACs has been

3027
02:21:28,080 --> 02:21:33,440
Speaker 3: so great at blitzing his way into success. They are

3028
02:21:33,520 --> 02:21:36,120
Speaker 3: blitzing people at a crazy rate. They blitzed the snot

3029
02:21:36,160 --> 02:21:39,560
Speaker 3: out of Lamar Jackson and they dominated, And so I

3030
02:21:39,640 --> 02:21:43,120
Speaker 3: think they're going to attack the forty nine ers in

3031
02:21:43,160 --> 02:21:46,480
Speaker 3: a way that was very similar to to what Baltimore

3032
02:21:46,680 --> 02:21:48,879
Speaker 3: did to kind of force brought pretty into a bad game,

3033
02:21:48,920 --> 02:21:50,000
Speaker 3: and we'll see if they can hold up.

3034
02:21:50,440 --> 02:21:52,480
Speaker 2: You know, you see this betispect number one. I was

3035
02:21:52,480 --> 02:21:54,640
Speaker 2: storry to see him go from the Giants that that

3036
02:21:54,840 --> 02:21:57,200
Speaker 2: that hurt me bigger as the team I grew up with.

3037
02:21:57,320 --> 02:22:00,880
Speaker 2: But you know, you talk about names of assistant coaches

3038
02:22:01,080 --> 02:22:03,920
Speaker 2: that always get bantered around to become a head coach,

3039
02:22:04,160 --> 02:22:05,760
Speaker 2: and you never hear his name out there, And you

3040
02:22:05,840 --> 02:22:08,520
Speaker 2: know why certain people know their role and what I

3041
02:22:08,600 --> 02:22:10,640
Speaker 2: mean by that, you know, you look at the Peter principal.

3042
02:22:10,800 --> 02:22:13,640
Speaker 2: If you're a great teacher, doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna

3043
02:22:13,640 --> 02:22:16,039
Speaker 2: be a great principal. You know, you're a teacher, that's

3044
02:22:16,040 --> 02:22:18,640
Speaker 2: what you are in elementary school, junior high school. Who

3045
02:22:18,680 --> 02:22:20,520
Speaker 2: may be and these teachers say, well, you know wanted

3046
02:22:20,520 --> 02:22:22,960
Speaker 2: to become a principal. You know, maybe you were forced

3047
02:22:23,080 --> 02:22:25,240
Speaker 2: or maybe you were meant to be a teacher, not

3048
02:22:25,320 --> 02:22:28,160
Speaker 2: an administrator, but a teacher. And maybe Spagnola has meant

3049
02:22:28,200 --> 02:22:32,120
Speaker 2: to be a defensive minded coordinator. Maybe they'll make them

3050
02:22:32,200 --> 02:22:34,600
Speaker 2: an associate head coach in charge of defense, whatever it

3051
02:22:34,640 --> 02:22:36,480
Speaker 2: may be. He may never be a head coach, and

3052
02:22:36,560 --> 02:22:38,240
Speaker 2: he never longs to be a head coach. I mean,

3053
02:22:38,600 --> 02:22:40,960
Speaker 2: you heard about the enemy all the time on that

3054
02:22:41,080 --> 02:22:42,879
Speaker 2: staff wanted to be a head coach, but you never

3055
02:22:42,920 --> 02:22:44,959
Speaker 2: heard about Spagnola wanted to be a head coach.

3056
02:22:46,080 --> 02:22:48,320
Speaker 3: Well, because he got his opportunity, it didn't go. It

3057
02:22:48,360 --> 02:22:50,520
Speaker 3: didn't It wasn't great when he was the same Louis.

3058
02:22:52,440 --> 02:22:56,880
Speaker 3: It wasn't great. But people, yeah, it doesn't mean, it

3059
02:22:56,920 --> 02:22:59,480
Speaker 3: doesn't mean that he couldn't do it better the second

3060
02:22:59,520 --> 02:22:59,959
Speaker 3: time around.

3061
02:23:00,120 --> 02:23:01,000
Speaker 4: But because it was so.

3062
02:23:02,879 --> 02:23:06,720
Speaker 7: It went so left yeah eight yeah, as as the

3063
02:23:06,800 --> 02:23:08,680
Speaker 7: head coach, and then he got a second bite as

3064
02:23:08,720 --> 02:23:10,760
Speaker 7: an interim for the giants. He went one in three.

3065
02:23:11,840 --> 02:23:13,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of losses.

3066
02:23:13,920 --> 02:23:15,480
Speaker 7: So there you go, see a pile up those and

3067
02:23:15,560 --> 02:23:19,160
Speaker 7: now you just pile up wins in theory. Stay in

3068
02:23:19,320 --> 02:23:21,199
Speaker 7: Kansas City as long as you can to your point

3069
02:23:21,240 --> 02:23:23,840
Speaker 7: on the starting eleven there, Bucky. I mean you got

3070
02:23:23,920 --> 02:23:27,400
Speaker 7: a lot of guys drafted or acquired in twenty twenty

3071
02:23:27,560 --> 02:23:32,280
Speaker 7: or later, Carl Lofts working alongside up front. You know

3072
02:23:32,360 --> 02:23:34,320
Speaker 7: when we talk about some of the great things, and

3073
02:23:34,440 --> 02:23:37,279
Speaker 7: the one to hold out that actually worked in Chris Jones.

3074
02:23:38,280 --> 02:23:40,400
Speaker 7: How about that? Of all of those that when we

3075
02:23:40,560 --> 02:23:43,480
Speaker 7: talked about all off season, there's the one that worked.

3076
02:23:43,560 --> 02:23:45,480
Speaker 7: I wanted to do a callback to your guys in

3077
02:23:45,560 --> 02:23:49,560
Speaker 7: Bottom Barrel Betting. You asked a question earlier, Andy Furman,

3078
02:23:49,600 --> 02:23:50,960
Speaker 7: and I had the answer, and I wanted to go,

3079
02:23:51,080 --> 02:23:54,560
Speaker 7: oh oh, pick me. But you know, it was dark

3080
02:23:54,600 --> 02:23:56,959
Speaker 7: in the studio and Ian was locked in. I mean

3081
02:23:57,000 --> 02:24:00,200
Speaker 7: he was locked in the Ottawa was sixty Seven's part

3082
02:24:00,240 --> 02:24:00,480
Speaker 7: of them?

3083
02:24:00,840 --> 02:24:01,800
Speaker 3: You did well?

3084
02:24:01,879 --> 02:24:05,880
Speaker 7: The Yeah, they were established during Canada's centennial year of

3085
02:24:06,040 --> 02:24:07,760
Speaker 7: nineteen sixty seven. That's it.

3086
02:24:08,360 --> 02:24:11,080
Speaker 2: Do you like that you knew that or you looked

3087
02:24:11,080 --> 02:24:11,960
Speaker 2: at up No, I knew that.

3088
02:24:12,560 --> 02:24:14,800
Speaker 7: I con earned it. But I knew it, Like it's

3089
02:24:14,920 --> 02:24:17,600
Speaker 7: like the seventy six ers, right, we were talking about

3090
02:24:17,640 --> 02:24:20,200
Speaker 7: that a little bit too right, Why are they name that? Well,

3091
02:24:20,680 --> 02:24:23,959
Speaker 7: they just went for the obvious, So sometimes you don't

3092
02:24:23,959 --> 02:24:24,440
Speaker 7: overthink it.

3093
02:24:24,600 --> 02:24:24,960
Speaker 5: I like that.

3094
02:24:25,640 --> 02:24:26,960
Speaker 7: Either that or you put it back up and you

3095
02:24:27,080 --> 02:24:29,640
Speaker 7: start changing your name every couple of years like you

3096
02:24:29,720 --> 02:24:31,680
Speaker 7: do with the Commanders. I mean, what will they be

3097
02:24:31,840 --> 02:24:35,280
Speaker 7: next under the new regime. You'll see they'll have some

3098
02:24:35,480 --> 02:24:37,800
Speaker 7: random mascot floating around that you'll be able to buy

3099
02:24:37,840 --> 02:24:41,520
Speaker 7: a plushy of in no time. A flat Hey coming

3100
02:24:41,600 --> 02:24:43,800
Speaker 7: up next as we continue, we've got more in the

3101
02:24:43,879 --> 02:24:46,600
Speaker 7: coaching carousel. We've got the dumpster fire that is the

3102
02:24:46,720 --> 02:24:50,680
Speaker 7: New York Football Jets and Michael Pennix Junior opting out

3103
02:24:50,720 --> 02:24:54,080
Speaker 7: of the Senior Bowl. Bad move, or so it seems

3104
02:24:54,160 --> 02:24:55,920
Speaker 7: for me. But we'll talk about that in a minute. First,

3105
02:24:55,920 --> 02:24:57,920
Speaker 7: we got our guy Kevin Wired over there. He's got

3106
02:24:57,959 --> 02:25:00,640
Speaker 7: an updated everything happening in the over and I well,

3107
02:25:00,640 --> 02:25:02,680
Speaker 7: I hope you guys like scoring, because in the NBA

3108
02:25:02,840 --> 02:25:04,720
Speaker 7: on Saturday night, we got a lot of it, and

3109
02:25:04,800 --> 02:25:07,800
Speaker 7: a lot of big performances from star player Steph Curry

3110
02:25:07,920 --> 02:25:11,039
Speaker 7: the top among them, with sixty points. However, the Golden

3111
02:25:11,040 --> 02:25:14,120
Speaker 7: State Warriors lost to the Atlanta Hawks won forty one

3112
02:25:14,160 --> 02:25:16,800
Speaker 7: one thirty four. In over time, we saw the Aaron

3113
02:25:16,879 --> 02:25:20,200
Speaker 7: Fox score forty one points for the Sacramento Kings, who

3114
02:25:20,280 --> 02:25:22,960
Speaker 7: were able to take business take care of business against

3115
02:25:22,959 --> 02:25:25,960
Speaker 7: the Chicago Bulls won twenty three one point fifteen. Cam

3116
02:25:26,080 --> 02:25:29,360
Speaker 7: Thomas had forty points nets over the seventy six Ers

3117
02:25:29,440 --> 02:25:31,560
Speaker 7: won thirty six to one twenty one, and we saw

3118
02:25:31,640 --> 02:25:34,600
Speaker 7: Giannis get forty eight points as the Milwaukee Bucks were

3119
02:25:34,640 --> 02:25:37,120
Speaker 7: down twenty four at one point, but they were able

3120
02:25:37,160 --> 02:25:39,720
Speaker 7: to come back and at take out. The Dallas Mavericks

3121
02:25:39,800 --> 02:25:43,120
Speaker 7: won twenty nine one at seventeen. Donovan Mitchell thirty one

3122
02:25:43,160 --> 02:25:46,920
Speaker 7: points as the Cleveland Cavaliers make it five straight wins

3123
02:25:46,959 --> 02:25:49,760
Speaker 7: one seventeen one to one winners at San Antonio, and

3124
02:25:49,800 --> 02:25:52,360
Speaker 7: the knixt nine game winning streak is over at the

3125
02:25:52,440 --> 02:25:55,039
Speaker 7: hands of the Los Angeles Lakers, who win it at

3126
02:25:55,120 --> 02:25:57,800
Speaker 7: Madison Square. Garden won thirteen one oh five behind twenty

3127
02:25:57,840 --> 02:26:02,240
Speaker 7: four points to Lebron James and eighteen rebounds from Anthony Davis.

3128
02:26:02,640 --> 02:26:06,200
Speaker 7: College hoops scores Number one UKN over Saint John seventy

3129
02:26:06,240 --> 02:26:09,400
Speaker 7: seven to sixty four. The huge rivalry on Tobacco Road

3130
02:26:09,480 --> 02:26:12,640
Speaker 7: saw number three Carolina over number seven Dude ninety three

3131
02:26:12,720 --> 02:26:15,400
Speaker 7: eighty four. In the Big twelve Top ten matchup, Number

3132
02:26:15,440 --> 02:26:18,680
Speaker 7: eight Kansas takes down number four Houston seventy eight sixty five.

3133
02:26:18,760 --> 02:26:21,600
Speaker 7: Fifth ranked Tennessee wins at number ten Kentucky one oh

3134
02:26:21,640 --> 02:26:24,720
Speaker 7: three ninety two, Number eighteen Baylor beats number twelve Iowa

3135
02:26:24,800 --> 02:26:28,000
Speaker 7: State seventy sixty eight Cincinnati with the episode at number fifteen,

3136
02:26:28,040 --> 02:26:30,920
Speaker 7: Texas techs seventy five to seventy two, and number seventeen

3137
02:26:31,120 --> 02:26:34,920
Speaker 7: Utah State upended by San Diego State eighty one sixty seven.

3138
02:26:35,480 --> 02:26:38,480
Speaker 7: And in the NFL Cliff Kingsbury actually not gonna be

3139
02:26:39,320 --> 02:26:41,800
Speaker 7: the Raiders offensive coordinator. We got an update of both

3140
02:26:41,879 --> 02:26:45,040
Speaker 7: Chefter and Ian Rappaport saying that it'll be Luke Getzi

3141
02:26:45,800 --> 02:26:50,760
Speaker 7: that'll be the Raiders offensive coordinator for this upcoming season.

3142
02:26:51,600 --> 02:26:54,480
Speaker 7: And we did have an injury report saying that Chiefs

3143
02:26:54,560 --> 02:26:57,800
Speaker 7: running back Jack McKinnon gonna be designated to return from

3144
02:26:57,920 --> 02:27:00,400
Speaker 7: injured reserve. He has been dealing with a growing injuries,

3145
02:27:00,440 --> 02:27:03,280
Speaker 7: so we'll see what his availability will be going forward

3146
02:27:03,320 --> 02:27:05,840
Speaker 7: for the Super Bowl. Back to you, guys, Thank you much, Kevin.

3147
02:27:05,840 --> 02:27:08,440
Speaker 7: If nothing else, it makes the chess game a little

3148
02:27:08,480 --> 02:27:10,000
Speaker 7: more because now you got to go back and look

3149
02:27:10,000 --> 02:27:14,160
Speaker 7: at plays and formations with McKinnon, the gamesmanship begins. A

3150
02:27:14,160 --> 02:27:16,440
Speaker 7: couple of notes off the NBA guys. I went and

3151
02:27:16,480 --> 02:27:19,640
Speaker 7: saw the movie Argyle last night with my daughters, and

3152
02:27:20,120 --> 02:27:22,440
Speaker 7: obviously the Lakers and Nicks are getting after it. And

3153
02:27:22,520 --> 02:27:25,000
Speaker 7: if you know my show at all with Jason Smith,

3154
02:27:25,320 --> 02:27:28,119
Speaker 7: a huge Knicks fan that you know sometimes I want

3155
02:27:28,160 --> 02:27:32,280
Speaker 7: to sedatum as they win. And then on the other side,

3156
02:27:32,520 --> 02:27:36,440
Speaker 7: justin Frostburg, Lifelong, you know, la guy Laker fan. My

3157
02:27:36,680 --> 02:27:39,480
Speaker 7: phone was buzzing in the cup holder like it was

3158
02:27:39,680 --> 02:27:43,920
Speaker 7: the shaking scenes of Jurassic Park. So like I knew

3159
02:27:44,000 --> 02:27:47,000
Speaker 7: exactly what was going on in that game without ever

3160
02:27:47,160 --> 02:27:49,440
Speaker 7: having to look at my phone. I got out. I'm like,

3161
02:27:49,480 --> 02:27:51,920
Speaker 7: all right, so the Lakers won this game, sure enough.

3162
02:27:52,160 --> 02:27:55,640
Speaker 7: There's like thirty messages for these idiots going back and forth,

3163
02:27:56,240 --> 02:27:59,680
Speaker 7: and there's a meme that Frostburg always sends me. That's

3164
02:27:59,680 --> 02:28:02,800
Speaker 7: got the greasy looking guy holding up a Lakers logo

3165
02:28:02,959 --> 02:28:05,760
Speaker 7: and pointing going Nakers. So I got that a bunch

3166
02:28:05,920 --> 02:28:08,760
Speaker 7: and the other Hey, Steph Curry gave that sixty point

3167
02:28:08,879 --> 02:28:11,680
Speaker 7: jersey to Lindsay Lowine. Anybody want to jump on board

3168
02:28:11,720 --> 02:28:16,960
Speaker 7: that one? No, okay, there you go. That's that's probably

3169
02:28:16,959 --> 02:28:18,400
Speaker 7: gonna be worth a lot of money. You know, he's

3170
02:28:18,480 --> 02:28:20,840
Speaker 7: one of the Uh. He became only the second player

3171
02:28:20,920 --> 02:28:23,280
Speaker 7: after the age of thirty five to score thirty or

3172
02:28:23,320 --> 02:28:24,520
Speaker 7: sixty points or more in a game.

3173
02:28:24,840 --> 02:28:25,480
Speaker 2: But they lost.

3174
02:28:25,720 --> 02:28:27,920
Speaker 7: But they lost, which is the trend in the NBA

3175
02:28:28,040 --> 02:28:30,120
Speaker 7: the last couple of weeks. If you noticed score a

3176
02:28:30,160 --> 02:28:33,440
Speaker 7: lot of points, you're a fifty to fifty proposition actually

3177
02:28:33,520 --> 02:28:34,080
Speaker 7: win the game.

3178
02:28:34,640 --> 02:28:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm a conspiracist. I mean, and I

3179
02:28:37,959 --> 02:28:41,840
Speaker 2: think my theory is this. The NBA TV ratings are flat,

3180
02:28:42,120 --> 02:28:45,879
Speaker 2: maybe even down. The interest is waning. They can't compete

3181
02:28:45,879 --> 02:28:49,360
Speaker 2: with the NFL. Is the disparity is getting even wider

3182
02:28:49,560 --> 02:28:52,640
Speaker 2: between the NFL and the NBA. So maybe they were told,

3183
02:28:53,120 --> 02:28:55,640
Speaker 2: we need something, we need some scoring, and guys are

3184
02:28:55,680 --> 02:28:58,560
Speaker 2: going ballisted me Joel Embiid's putting in seventy, I mean

3185
02:28:58,840 --> 02:29:01,600
Speaker 2: sixty for Steph Curry. You know, people are just going

3186
02:29:01,680 --> 02:29:05,000
Speaker 2: crazy scoring. I don't think that's helping matters, I really don't.

3187
02:29:05,320 --> 02:29:08,680
Speaker 2: I mean, and it doesn't mean anything. Because it's just

3188
02:29:09,320 --> 02:29:12,720
Speaker 2: you know what, Yannas scored forty something last night. I

3189
02:29:12,800 --> 02:29:14,640
Speaker 2: don't see that happening because it was a big deal

3190
02:29:14,959 --> 02:29:17,320
Speaker 2: back in the day when a guy was scored thirty,

3191
02:29:17,640 --> 02:29:20,920
Speaker 2: and now it's almost every night some guys scoring thirty, forty, sixty.

3192
02:29:21,720 --> 02:29:23,320
Speaker 2: I don't see it happening, But I think the league

3193
02:29:23,400 --> 02:29:26,200
Speaker 2: is kind of maybe mandating this to get some more

3194
02:29:26,320 --> 02:29:28,320
Speaker 2: interest and hype with the NBA.

3195
02:29:30,480 --> 02:29:34,280
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, go ahead, by no, it's kind of crazy

3196
02:29:34,320 --> 02:29:36,120
Speaker 3: to see all these guys on a heater, right, like,

3197
02:29:36,320 --> 02:29:39,920
Speaker 3: just kind of boring for theirs. But it's a different time.

3198
02:29:40,080 --> 02:29:44,119
Speaker 3: I mean, NB going for seventy plus Steph Curry, we've

3199
02:29:44,120 --> 02:29:46,720
Speaker 3: seen him go bananas, but he finally hits the sixty pointer.

3200
02:29:47,600 --> 02:29:51,160
Speaker 3: Guys are going crazy, but the league has kind of

3201
02:29:52,000 --> 02:29:54,360
Speaker 3: opened up the rules where we're seeing higher scores. It

3202
02:29:54,440 --> 02:29:57,119
Speaker 3: kind of reminds me of what was it the early

3203
02:29:57,240 --> 02:29:58,080
Speaker 3: eighties and stuff.

3204
02:29:58,200 --> 02:30:01,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, go back to like hundred fifty points a game.

3205
02:30:01,160 --> 02:30:04,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the Nuggets going up and down the floor

3206
02:30:04,680 --> 02:30:07,320
Speaker 3: way back with Doug Moe and those guys like Doug

3207
02:30:07,400 --> 02:30:09,600
Speaker 3: mull the coach kind of getting them up and going

3208
02:30:10,040 --> 02:30:11,920
Speaker 3: or whatever. It's just a different time it's free flowing,

3209
02:30:11,959 --> 02:30:14,000
Speaker 3: you can't really play defense. Just the way that they've

3210
02:30:14,440 --> 02:30:16,480
Speaker 3: kind of legislated hand checking and all of.

3211
02:30:16,480 --> 02:30:18,800
Speaker 7: That freedom of movement, I think is what they're nicely done.

3212
02:30:20,000 --> 02:30:22,160
Speaker 3: They've legislated all that stuff out of it.

3213
02:30:22,560 --> 02:30:26,000
Speaker 7: Just like in the NFL. It's the same thing, right,

3214
02:30:26,320 --> 02:30:28,800
Speaker 7: all the rules against defensive players, let's open it up.

3215
02:30:28,920 --> 02:30:31,320
Speaker 2: To fifty plus three is a game too in the NBA.

3216
02:30:31,400 --> 02:30:32,960
Speaker 7: Well, but that's but that's the other side of it,

3217
02:30:33,000 --> 02:30:35,040
Speaker 7: Andy is you got guys that if you if you

3218
02:30:35,120 --> 02:30:37,800
Speaker 7: are on a heater from the outside, points will pile

3219
02:30:37,920 --> 02:30:40,840
Speaker 7: up pretty fast, right, I mean, Joel Embiid did it

3220
02:30:40,920 --> 02:30:43,080
Speaker 7: the old fashioned way by actually hitting all his free

3221
02:30:43,120 --> 02:30:45,040
Speaker 7: throws and then just living in the paint. And now

3222
02:30:45,080 --> 02:30:49,240
Speaker 7: we'll see when we see Joel Embiid again right with

3223
02:30:49,360 --> 02:30:53,160
Speaker 7: the meniscus tear and flap and everything. Now he may

3224
02:30:53,240 --> 02:30:56,039
Speaker 7: be done. And a lot of lamentation about the sixty

3225
02:30:56,120 --> 02:30:59,120
Speaker 7: five games that have been imposed for all the awards

3226
02:30:59,200 --> 02:31:02,640
Speaker 7: and honors, which look the Players Association, you know, you

3227
02:31:02,720 --> 02:31:05,199
Speaker 7: know my feeling on these guys, I've been very adamant

3228
02:31:05,200 --> 02:31:07,360
Speaker 7: about this. As soon as you allow those kind of

3229
02:31:07,400 --> 02:31:09,720
Speaker 7: things to creep into your contracts where you could lose

3230
02:31:09,800 --> 02:31:12,320
Speaker 7: out on forty eighty million dollars because you're not an

3231
02:31:12,360 --> 02:31:15,960
Speaker 7: All NBA player. As a group, you got played you

3232
02:31:16,160 --> 02:31:17,160
Speaker 7: right exactly.

3233
02:31:17,280 --> 02:31:19,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, now they they got him, they got him now.

3234
02:31:20,120 --> 02:31:22,240
Speaker 3: But the same argument would be made if you were

3235
02:31:23,280 --> 02:31:25,720
Speaker 3: someone a Laker fan living on the East Coast and

3236
02:31:25,800 --> 02:31:28,760
Speaker 3: you earmarked, Hey, we're gonna go watch the Lakers play

3237
02:31:28,840 --> 02:31:31,360
Speaker 3: the Celtics because I want to see the rivalry. I

3238
02:31:31,400 --> 02:31:33,360
Speaker 3: want to see Lebron James play against that. You show

3239
02:31:33,480 --> 02:31:36,480
Speaker 3: up in Lebron and a d or Sydney Street close, you.

3240
02:31:36,520 --> 02:31:36,920
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

3241
02:31:37,000 --> 02:31:38,960
Speaker 7: They're getting ready for that game at the garden.

3242
02:31:39,879 --> 02:31:41,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, well that happened.

3243
02:31:41,440 --> 02:31:44,080
Speaker 2: Several years ago when Lebron. The Lakers came to Indianapolis

3244
02:31:44,160 --> 02:31:46,720
Speaker 2: only came once a year, and the Lebron didn't play.

3245
02:31:47,040 --> 02:31:48,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure everybody wanted to go see that game to

3246
02:31:49,000 --> 02:31:50,879
Speaker 2: see Lebron. It's not right, and.

3247
02:31:52,760 --> 02:31:54,440
Speaker 4: So we can talk about that.

3248
02:31:54,600 --> 02:31:58,080
Speaker 3: But I will say this, regardless of whether it's a

3249
02:31:58,120 --> 02:32:00,480
Speaker 3: sixty five game mandate or not, there's no way that

3250
02:32:00,560 --> 02:32:04,320
Speaker 3: Joel Nbe can win MVP if he's done now before allstin.

3251
02:32:04,520 --> 02:32:07,880
Speaker 3: That's right, he can't he can't be in it.

3252
02:32:07,959 --> 02:32:09,920
Speaker 10: I mean, we can acknowledge that you're you were having

3253
02:32:09,959 --> 02:32:12,040
Speaker 10: a great year, but you didn't finish the year, and

3254
02:32:13,040 --> 02:32:15,960
Speaker 10: availability is part of the stuff.

3255
02:32:16,000 --> 02:32:17,640
Speaker 3: You've got to be available. We have to see you

3256
02:32:17,840 --> 02:32:21,280
Speaker 3: over time to see if you can sustain the level

3257
02:32:21,320 --> 02:32:23,000
Speaker 3: of success that you were having early in the year.

3258
02:32:23,080 --> 02:32:25,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, the random nights off, I'm sorry for Johnny and Susie.

3259
02:32:27,080 --> 02:32:29,560
Speaker 7: The Lakers still showed up and played a game, and

3260
02:32:29,680 --> 02:32:31,800
Speaker 7: that one might have been the best coaching job anybody did.

3261
02:32:32,000 --> 02:32:35,600
Speaker 7: Was Ad and Lebron on Thursday night against the Celtics.

3262
02:32:36,200 --> 02:32:38,920
Speaker 7: Lebron twenty three and eight career at the Garden that

3263
02:32:39,000 --> 02:32:43,400
Speaker 7: he's won thirteen or fourteen there as well, So Chaos,

3264
02:32:43,600 --> 02:32:45,440
Speaker 7: Dath and Sue. I'd be remiss if I didn't point

3265
02:32:45,440 --> 02:32:48,640
Speaker 7: out Caitlyn Clark with her thirty eight against Maryland Fox

3266
02:32:48,959 --> 02:32:51,879
Speaker 7: with the TikTok cam. Did you get the TikTok cam

3267
02:32:52,000 --> 02:32:52,480
Speaker 7: going Andy?

3268
02:32:52,760 --> 02:32:52,920
Speaker 2: Yes?

3269
02:32:53,400 --> 02:32:56,440
Speaker 7: Yes, since I know you loved Peacock and adding extra

3270
02:32:56,640 --> 02:33:01,039
Speaker 7: devices and stuff to your interviewing, you know, added the download.

3271
02:33:01,160 --> 02:33:04,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, the band of his existence. He didn't like that.

3272
02:33:04,800 --> 02:33:07,280
Speaker 2: Did you have think that women's college basketball will be

3273
02:33:07,360 --> 02:33:10,000
Speaker 2: on primetime? TV on a Saturday night, and you to

3274
02:33:10,040 --> 02:33:10,640
Speaker 2: think about.

3275
02:33:10,480 --> 02:33:12,280
Speaker 7: That, you got a breakthrough artists, and then look over

3276
02:33:12,360 --> 02:33:17,400
Speaker 7: here at USC you had a fifty one. Yeah, yeah,

3277
02:33:17,560 --> 02:33:19,920
Speaker 7: they beat they beat Stanford in a big upset, so

3278
02:33:20,400 --> 02:33:23,520
Speaker 7: huge stuff. And then they tried to debate her by saying,

3279
02:33:23,600 --> 02:33:26,840
Speaker 7: Kaitlin Clark, what she goes, don't be doing that, don't

3280
02:33:26,879 --> 02:33:27,640
Speaker 7: be doing that now.

3281
02:33:28,400 --> 02:33:29,560
Speaker 4: No, she didn't need the cheese.

3282
02:33:29,720 --> 02:33:33,480
Speaker 3: She didn't and her and yeah, and a time when

3283
02:33:33,640 --> 02:33:37,280
Speaker 3: when everyone is trying to cannibalize stars and make them

3284
02:33:37,320 --> 02:33:39,120
Speaker 3: go against each other like she was wise and was like,

3285
02:33:39,160 --> 02:33:41,520
Speaker 3: oh no, she's cool, she's a good player.

3286
02:33:41,640 --> 02:33:43,119
Speaker 4: I'm not even going there.

3287
02:33:43,160 --> 02:33:46,440
Speaker 3: I appreciated that part of to avoid that stuff. But

3288
02:33:46,760 --> 02:33:48,640
Speaker 3: wait a minute, Harmon, I can't let you off the hook.

3289
02:33:48,680 --> 02:33:50,600
Speaker 3: Because we you just had this read and we went

3290
02:33:50,640 --> 02:33:53,720
Speaker 3: through all the news and all this other. Something kind of.

3291
02:33:53,760 --> 02:33:56,240
Speaker 7: Cross comes up next. I was gonna talk.

3292
02:33:56,320 --> 02:33:58,280
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I'm okay.

3293
02:34:00,080 --> 02:34:00,240
Speaker 2: I was.

3294
02:34:00,760 --> 02:34:06,760
Speaker 7: I was like, oh okay, okay, yeah, no, no, no,

3295
02:34:07,480 --> 02:34:10,520
Speaker 7: and wants to hear you, you know, laugh at me,

3296
02:34:11,160 --> 02:34:15,199
Speaker 7: so that'll be yeah, well I might it might have taken.

3297
02:34:15,440 --> 02:34:17,680
Speaker 3: I just took I just took the raiders off the

3298
02:34:17,760 --> 02:34:18,640
Speaker 3: trade listening.

3299
02:34:18,720 --> 02:34:23,000
Speaker 7: Field exactly just wiped it a hundred.

3300
02:34:23,640 --> 02:34:26,680
Speaker 3: No Justin Fields there, take him off the Bengo card.

3301
02:34:27,120 --> 02:34:29,560
Speaker 7: That is one viewer team that you have to consider

3302
02:34:29,840 --> 02:34:32,879
Speaker 7: in the Justin Fields Olympics. We'll do that and we'll

3303
02:34:32,920 --> 02:34:36,040
Speaker 7: get back into Panics, skipping the Senior Bowl as well

3304
02:34:36,080 --> 02:34:38,400
Speaker 7: as the limited play from others like you know you

3305
02:34:38,560 --> 02:34:41,160
Speaker 7: cost guys opportunity. We'll talk about that coming up in

3306
02:34:41,200 --> 02:34:43,720
Speaker 7: a moment. There's Andy Furman over there as Bucky Brooks.

3307
02:34:43,760 --> 02:34:47,680
Speaker 7: I'm by Carmen. This is Fox Football Sunday. Welcome back

3308
02:34:47,720 --> 02:34:50,680
Speaker 7: into the tirerac dot Com Fox Sports Radio Studios. It's

3309
02:34:50,680 --> 02:34:54,360
Speaker 7: Fox Football Sunday Mike Carmon alongside Andy Furman, Bucky Brooks

3310
02:34:54,640 --> 02:34:56,959
Speaker 7: and Andy Furman f SR. Where you find and find

3311
02:34:57,000 --> 02:35:00,120
Speaker 7: out what he's got popping his latest columns, rate you

3312
02:35:00,280 --> 02:35:03,840
Speaker 7: work all of that promoted there at Bucky Brooks as

3313
02:35:03,959 --> 02:35:09,520
Speaker 7: well for latest columns and insights across the league. And

3314
02:35:09,600 --> 02:35:11,360
Speaker 7: of course you can grab the podcast wherever you get

3315
02:35:11,400 --> 02:35:14,400
Speaker 7: your audio, you'll have it up here in short order.

3316
02:35:14,720 --> 02:35:19,320
Speaker 7: Fox Sports Weekends. Look for Fox Football Sunday, download it,

3317
02:35:19,680 --> 02:35:22,160
Speaker 7: evangelize to your friends and family. It's a gift, you know,

3318
02:35:22,320 --> 02:35:24,520
Speaker 7: just because the holidays are over doesn't mean you can't

3319
02:35:24,560 --> 02:35:28,600
Speaker 7: still give gifts. We are a magnanimous people, no question

3320
02:35:28,720 --> 02:35:32,600
Speaker 7: about that. Guys. You brought it up, Bucky. Let's just

3321
02:35:32,680 --> 02:35:36,720
Speaker 7: get to it. Luke GETSI There, Las Vegas Raiders, Antonio

3322
02:35:36,800 --> 02:35:40,160
Speaker 7: Pears the head man. He's brought in Marvin Lewis, and

3323
02:35:40,240 --> 02:35:41,720
Speaker 7: now he brings in a guy. Look, the one thing

3324
02:35:41,760 --> 02:35:44,120
Speaker 7: the Bears did do well they ran the football. For

3325
02:35:44,240 --> 02:35:48,360
Speaker 7: as much as people mocked the offense overall and questioned

3326
02:35:48,440 --> 02:35:51,640
Speaker 7: some of the decision making and how much Justin Fields

3327
02:35:51,720 --> 02:35:55,200
Speaker 7: truly grew as a passer, they did run the ball

3328
02:35:55,280 --> 02:35:59,360
Speaker 7: effectively between multiple running backs. So you bring that to Bear,

3329
02:36:00,760 --> 02:36:03,039
Speaker 7: I see what I did there, But that means you're

3330
02:36:03,040 --> 02:36:06,520
Speaker 7: probably not bringing Justin Fields from the Bears. So you

3331
02:36:06,600 --> 02:36:09,200
Speaker 7: get back into the play of you got Aidan O'Connell

3332
02:36:09,760 --> 02:36:11,760
Speaker 7: and now you have to figure out your quarterback position.

3333
02:36:12,000 --> 02:36:16,280
Speaker 7: But for the Raiders, you know, they make that move

3334
02:36:16,760 --> 02:36:19,080
Speaker 7: and Cliff Kingsbury is still floating out in the wind,

3335
02:36:19,160 --> 02:36:22,400
Speaker 7: maybe to Washington, maybe not. Bucky, what do you make

3336
02:36:22,480 --> 02:36:24,720
Speaker 7: of it? Luke getsy and the fit there?

3337
02:36:27,480 --> 02:36:29,680
Speaker 3: You know, so I'm really trying to figure out a

3338
02:36:29,760 --> 02:36:33,960
Speaker 3: direction that Ap wants to take this offense right because

3339
02:36:34,160 --> 02:36:36,560
Speaker 3: when he took over, he talked about them being heavy handed,

3340
02:36:36,680 --> 02:36:39,199
Speaker 3: want to smash, wanted to give it to Josh Jacobs,

3341
02:36:39,200 --> 02:36:41,840
Speaker 3: wanted to run the football, and they did that. They

3342
02:36:41,879 --> 02:36:44,880
Speaker 3: became a more physical team in those things. When I

3343
02:36:44,920 --> 02:36:48,560
Speaker 3: think about Luke Getsy, yeah, you bring up great points

3344
02:36:48,600 --> 02:36:50,519
Speaker 3: when you talk about the Bears being able to successfully

3345
02:36:50,640 --> 02:36:53,440
Speaker 3: run it. They did run it a ton, They ran

3346
02:36:53,480 --> 02:36:56,000
Speaker 3: it utilizing the quarterback near the end of the year.

3347
02:36:56,520 --> 02:36:58,480
Speaker 3: I just kind of want to know what Luke Getsy

3348
02:36:58,640 --> 02:37:01,360
Speaker 3: hangs his head on and like who is he as

3349
02:37:01,400 --> 02:37:05,880
Speaker 3: a play caller, as a offensive builder. I also wonder

3350
02:37:06,080 --> 02:37:10,200
Speaker 3: if there is some of the Packers stuff that Ap

3351
02:37:10,360 --> 02:37:13,680
Speaker 3: and the Raiders want, meaning the Packers sat and developed

3352
02:37:14,000 --> 02:37:15,920
Speaker 3: Jordan Love. Luke guests he was there for a part

3353
02:37:15,959 --> 02:37:18,840
Speaker 3: of that part, you know, like did he have the

3354
02:37:18,920 --> 02:37:21,080
Speaker 3: freedom to do some of those things in Chicago that

3355
02:37:21,320 --> 02:37:23,400
Speaker 3: he saw and witness in Green Bay and maybe he

3356
02:37:23,480 --> 02:37:26,160
Speaker 3: wanted to bring in So maybe he implements some of

3357
02:37:26,200 --> 02:37:28,440
Speaker 3: the stuff that the Packers did to develop their young

3358
02:37:28,560 --> 02:37:31,920
Speaker 3: players to get them up and ready. Because he won't

3359
02:37:32,000 --> 02:37:35,200
Speaker 3: have the stop sign that Aaron Rodgers was for the

3360
02:37:35,280 --> 02:37:37,840
Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers. And so maybe he's appealing in that

3361
02:37:38,040 --> 02:37:40,360
Speaker 3: regard that he couldn't do everything that maybe he wanted

3362
02:37:40,400 --> 02:37:42,680
Speaker 3: to do in Chicago, but he'll have the freedom to

3363
02:37:42,720 --> 02:37:44,920
Speaker 3: do in Las Vegas, you know.

3364
02:37:45,040 --> 02:37:47,440
Speaker 2: But look, Antonio piss has always said, you got to

3365
02:37:47,680 --> 02:37:50,240
Speaker 2: run the football. He likes to play action pass and

3366
02:37:50,360 --> 02:37:52,160
Speaker 2: if you look at GETSI right now, and I know

3367
02:37:52,280 --> 02:37:54,600
Speaker 2: he's got that bad rapping in for Chicago. But look

3368
02:37:54,640 --> 02:37:57,320
Speaker 2: at the stats as far as the Bears are concerned.

3369
02:37:57,600 --> 02:38:00,960
Speaker 2: Didn't they lead the league in rushing twenty two and

3370
02:38:01,200 --> 02:38:03,800
Speaker 2: when they finished a second or third last year in rushing?

3371
02:38:03,920 --> 02:38:05,720
Speaker 2: So you know they're gonna run the football. I mean,

3372
02:38:06,000 --> 02:38:07,840
Speaker 2: and look credit to the pass. I mean, they lost

3373
02:38:07,879 --> 02:38:10,000
Speaker 2: David Montgomery and they still run the football.

3374
02:38:11,320 --> 02:38:15,000
Speaker 7: Leads for the Lions, and obviously the justin fields yardage

3375
02:38:15,000 --> 02:38:18,240
Speaker 7: as you alluded to, Bucky helps augment that total, but

3376
02:38:18,320 --> 02:38:22,160
Speaker 7: all rushing yards to the same. He Andy, are you

3377
02:38:22,200 --> 02:38:24,000
Speaker 7: a big sneaker guy at all?

3378
02:38:25,360 --> 02:38:29,400
Speaker 2: I usually wear the old school high top converse.

3379
02:38:29,520 --> 02:38:31,040
Speaker 7: Okay. I was kind of hoping you were gonna tell

3380
02:38:31,080 --> 02:38:32,720
Speaker 7: me you were a Jordan guy, because I know Bucky

3381
02:38:32,840 --> 02:38:35,760
Speaker 7: is you know one piece that I wouldn't wear him, Yeah,

3382
02:38:35,800 --> 02:38:38,920
Speaker 7: one a piece for the last games ninety three, ninety six,

3383
02:38:39,000 --> 02:38:42,320
Speaker 7: ninety seven, ninety eight, he had a tradition where he

3384
02:38:42,440 --> 02:38:44,400
Speaker 7: had a member of the staff where he would give

3385
02:38:44,480 --> 02:38:47,400
Speaker 7: one of his shoes from the last game of the

3386
02:38:47,560 --> 02:38:51,800
Speaker 7: championship series as a collection gentlemen. They sold for eight

3387
02:38:52,120 --> 02:38:56,800
Speaker 7: million dollars at Sotheby's Sign Shoes.

3388
02:38:58,360 --> 02:39:00,000
Speaker 2: Now, even if you had the money to buy him,

3389
02:39:00,000 --> 02:39:00,680
Speaker 2: would you wear them?

3390
02:39:01,360 --> 02:39:01,400
Speaker 9: No?

3391
02:39:01,480 --> 02:39:04,360
Speaker 7: No, no, that that just becomes a display piece under

3392
02:39:04,440 --> 02:39:07,480
Speaker 7: lock and key with alarms and in the proper conditioning.

3393
02:39:07,560 --> 02:39:10,560
Speaker 7: The problem is trying to keep them from disintegrating over time,

3394
02:39:11,480 --> 02:39:14,320
Speaker 7: you know, no matter how much you clean them. We

3395
02:39:14,440 --> 02:39:18,000
Speaker 7: know that happens to skinners. So's a that's a tough

3396
02:39:18,040 --> 02:39:19,480
Speaker 7: eight million dollar investment there.

3397
02:39:20,600 --> 02:39:22,720
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say if it was an investment, you think

3398
02:39:23,040 --> 02:39:24,360
Speaker 2: I wouldn't call it an investment.

3399
02:39:25,040 --> 02:39:26,760
Speaker 7: Well, at least short term it is. I mean, you

3400
02:39:26,800 --> 02:39:29,120
Speaker 7: could probably you know, in short time, kind of flip

3401
02:39:29,160 --> 02:39:35,200
Speaker 7: those things market market for the small well, but you

3402
02:39:35,280 --> 02:39:38,279
Speaker 7: know what, rich guys want to have the thing nobody

3403
02:39:38,320 --> 02:39:42,480
Speaker 7: else can, right m whether it be a task. Yeah,

3404
02:39:43,160 --> 02:39:45,480
Speaker 7: And when you come to the house for a party,

3405
02:39:45,680 --> 02:39:47,800
Speaker 7: it's there, you know, Hey, under lock and key. Hey,

3406
02:39:47,879 --> 02:39:52,320
Speaker 7: what's behind that screen? Oh wait, it's my Jordan's.

3407
02:39:54,000 --> 02:39:54,200
Speaker 3: See.

3408
02:39:54,200 --> 02:39:55,880
Speaker 7: I've got this all planned out when I hit it

3409
02:39:56,000 --> 02:39:58,879
Speaker 7: rich and you can come and hang it and admire

3410
02:39:58,959 --> 02:39:59,480
Speaker 7: my collection.

3411
02:39:59,760 --> 02:40:01,760
Speaker 2: If I won the lottery, that would be the last

3412
02:40:01,840 --> 02:40:04,920
Speaker 2: thing on my list to purchase. Last thing, the last

3413
02:40:05,000 --> 02:40:07,680
Speaker 2: come on, not the last thing, it probably would be. Yes,

3414
02:40:09,000 --> 02:40:11,920
Speaker 2: we'll get Bill Belichick another gig, and you'll be his sidekick.

3415
02:40:12,120 --> 02:40:14,600
Speaker 7: He's Andy Furman. That's Bucky on Mike. We continue next.

3416
02:40:14,640 --> 02:40:15,240
Speaker 7: You're on Fox.