Speaker 1: The guys from Paying They've kind of showed me how
Speaker 1: much the equipment matters. I just love that I can
Speaker 1: hit any shot I kind of want.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about
Speaker 2: what goes on here to help golfers play better golf.
Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to the Pink Proving Grounds Podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: Shane Baking. That is Marty Jertsen. We're with Joaquin Neeman
Speaker 1: and we're in the tour truck Joaquin, and we're in La.
Speaker 1: It's US Open week. You come back to La. What
Speaker 1: are the vibes like for you, obviously with the success
Speaker 1: you had last year Riviera?
Speaker 3: Yeahs always I always enjoying coming back to California. We
Speaker 3: are pretty close from Riviera. I got obviously really good
Speaker 3: memories from that place. And yeah, I mean the only
Speaker 3: I think the only similar thing about here is just
Speaker 3: the year so totally different cored than we play at rev.
Speaker 2: Tell us about that week, just recap the week last
Speaker 2: last year at riv Viewers. I mean, it's got to
Speaker 2: be super rare to win wire to wire, and especially
Speaker 2: that tournament. It was one of the most stacked fields.
Speaker 2: I think you're all eleven and the top eleven, the
Speaker 2: top eleven players in the world were in the field.
Speaker 1: No decent start, by the way to Marty sixty three,
Speaker 1: sixty three, I'll play at almost any golf course in
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 2: So just tell us about that week. Every round round one,
Speaker 2: round two, how you're feeling, and yeah.
Speaker 4: That was, yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: I remember Actually that was probably like the last couple
Speaker 3: of weeks of February, and I remember seeing Story Pines.
Speaker 3: I was playing amazing golf and I told my team,
Speaker 3: my coach that, I mean, it's I remember telling them
Speaker 3: that the game feels so close, that he's right there.
Speaker 3: I just need to be patient. I was having a
Speaker 3: great attitude on the golf course. I was kind of
Speaker 3: like really understanding my swing, what was going on, where
Speaker 3: the ball was going. Then I remember I played like
Speaker 3: two or three more tournaments after Tory and I felt
Speaker 3: I was right there. And the week before I was
Speaker 3: at my house and I had such a week week
Speaker 3: off there where how the way I trained, the way
Speaker 3: I prepare. Once I came to Revere, it just felt
Speaker 3: like pretty pretty simple. I mean I just needed to
Speaker 3: go out there play golf. I knew it was coming
Speaker 3: at any time, and yeah, I mean, I played amazing
Speaker 3: all the first two rounds. I didn't feel like it
Speaker 3: was on match effort, just hitting the board nicely off
Speaker 3: the tee. I was putting amazing. My approach as to
Speaker 3: the green were pretty good too, So I mean everything
Speaker 3: that we was amazing the first two rounds. Obviously, then
Speaker 3: we go to the to Saturday, and for me, the
Speaker 3: weekend was more like another tournament. Obviously, you got the
Speaker 3: first two days I was leading, but obviously you still
Speaker 3: need to win the tournament. You got two more days.
Speaker 3: I remember Saturday was a really good day too.
Speaker 4: I got it.
Speaker 3: I think I was five under a moment and I
Speaker 3: was probably twenty twenty twenty one under a thing, and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, wow, this is working.
Speaker 3: And then I always travel a little bit on number
Speaker 3: twelve and on the teacher on number twelve. It doesn't
Speaker 3: fit well for me, like you want to hit that
Speaker 3: little fade, but you don't want to start it too
Speaker 3: far left. So I was kind of always on that
Speaker 3: right raft. But yeah, I mean, Saturday was a really
Speaker 3: good day. I didn't finish the right way, I think,
Speaker 3: but but yeah, I mean I knew.
Speaker 4: I knew that.
Speaker 3: On Sunday, I had a little margin, but I still
Speaker 3: needed to play well again. And yeah, I mean I
Speaker 3: played with Carmen Young, and I felt that I started
Speaker 3: the round pretty good other than I three pattern number
Speaker 3: number one or I miss a short pattern number one
Speaker 3: for Bertie. But I kind of was still really focused
Speaker 3: on my game. I knew I was hitting the ball grade.
Speaker 3: I have a great warm up, and I remember on
Speaker 3: the warm up, I remember this. I was on the
Speaker 3: right side of the range and there's like a little
Speaker 3: chipping green there and I always like doing little beds
Speaker 3: with guy with my caddy before we go out. And
Speaker 3: I was like forty yards to this, being on the
Speaker 3: on the on the chipping green, and I was warming up.
Speaker 3: I grabbed my driver, start heating drivers. Alright, big, how
Speaker 3: much if I if I make it to the hale,
Speaker 3: like I'm just messing a run with the driver and
Speaker 3: I he like a fifty year driver and.
Speaker 4: I made it.
Speaker 3: I was there with my trainer also with a see
Speaker 3: and he would lay all right, I think I'm ready.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I can go out and play now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what's the stress level. I mean, golf is so
Speaker 1: funny because we get more stressed when we're in a
Speaker 1: position that makes us uncomfortable. You know, when a guy
Speaker 1: that's never broke eighty is sitting on seventy eight on
Speaker 1: the eighteenth t you know, and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you're stressed out, even though that's where you want it
Speaker 1: to be for so long in your life. You open
Speaker 1: sixty three, sixty three at this historic golf course, historic tournament,
Speaker 1: and you said, it's a different tournament. When you get
Speaker 1: the Saturday, does the stress almost intensify because you played
Speaker 1: so well those first two rounds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, after those first two rounds, obviously, expectations are way
Speaker 3: lower the first two That the first two rounds.
Speaker 4: And you just went out there and play, and I
Speaker 4: play amazing.
Speaker 3: And then obviously the next two days you you you
Speaker 3: know that you can win the tournament and you want
Speaker 3: to win it. So yeah, I think I think expectations
Speaker 3: are a little bit higher on the weekend. But I
Speaker 3: also were pretty good to manage my game, especially on Saturday.
Speaker 3: I think Saturday was a really important day to yet
Speaker 3: prepare for Sunday. And yeah, I mean also it helps
Speaker 3: a lot being we stayed in the house with with
Speaker 3: all my friends also, and that helped me a lot
Speaker 3: to kind of get distracted on what was going on
Speaker 3: on the golf course.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so walking, we've heard, uh, you travel around, you
Speaker 2: gotta you gotta tight crew, you gott you travel with.
Speaker 2: What are some fun things you do to decompress when
Speaker 2: you're traveling playing tournaments?
Speaker 3: Yeah, remember, well it always changed. It used to be
Speaker 3: a lot of gaming before. We remember with Carlos and
Speaker 3: Sebastian Munos, we stayed the three of us together, and
Speaker 3: at that time, we're playing a lot of Call of Duty,
Speaker 3: and I remember we we always tried to go up early,
Speaker 3: do our practice early, play early, trying to do everything early.
Speaker 3: That way we can come back to the house and
Speaker 3: do videogames.
Speaker 1: I gotta go to work for a little bit and
Speaker 1: have some fun.
Speaker 3: But yeah, then, yeah, that was that was a lot
Speaker 3: of fun. And I the other day we were talking
Speaker 3: about it, and I remember the sometimes that playing video
Speaker 3: against it helped me a lot to kind of like
Speaker 3: forget about it what was going on the golf course.
Speaker 4: And I remember Greenbrier when I won.
Speaker 3: I on Sunday, my team I was like at three
Speaker 3: pm something like that. I wake up like at seven
Speaker 3: in the morning, and all my friends at that time
Speaker 3: were into Fortnite, and I was like, wake up, I
Speaker 3: already have a coffee, I have breakfast, and like, I mean,
Speaker 3: I got like six hours.
Speaker 4: To warm up. Hey, guys, you want to play Fortnite?
Speaker 3: Start playing for for like three four hours before my tea,
Speaker 3: and I kind of like forgot about everything, you know,
Speaker 3: So it was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Gaming can get the mind away from the golf course.
Speaker 1: Really important question here, how long did it take you
Speaker 1: living in the United States where you stopped getting annoyed
Speaker 1: that Americans called it chili?
Speaker 4: What do you say Chile?
Speaker 1: You know, Americans say Chili, they don't say Chile. How
Speaker 1: long did it take you to realize that's the way
Speaker 1: Americans pronounce it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean between that and my name, it just
Speaker 4: I think it's too much more for this.
Speaker 1: Our accents don't work great.
Speaker 4: But it's fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta kind of like learn instead of Wuago
Speaker 3: with Jay. I gotta say, like try to say Wuago
Speaker 3: with like a way, and they kind of started getting it. Then, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they think I'm from Chile and they started talking about
Speaker 3: the chili, the.
Speaker 4: Spicy eat right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually don't have much spicy like Mexicans do, but yeah.
Speaker 2: What can you tell us about just your start with Ping,
Speaker 2: like the first clubs you got, just what that journey
Speaker 2: looked like. When did you start playing golf?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I started playing probably when I was three two
Speaker 3: years old. I was always walking in my house with
Speaker 3: plastic clubs. Yeah, everywhere. I got pictures that I can
Speaker 3: barely walk and I was with a plastic bag walking around.
Speaker 3: And I think I remember on Christmas when I was
Speaker 3: I don't know, probably like eight seven years old, I
Speaker 3: got my first set of clubs and it was the
Speaker 3: pink Moxie.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys remember that one all
Speaker 4: blue blue bag.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: It was the driver that it was like thirteen degrees
Speaker 3: and I remember that after I got like a bigger
Speaker 3: set than the Pink Moxy, I came that driver as
Speaker 3: a three wood. Now I was using my other driver
Speaker 3: and I had this Ping Maxi driver that was like
Speaker 3: through thirteen degrees and I was hitting it like a
Speaker 3: fair with would any It was my favorite club over
Speaker 3: the back.
Speaker 1: We interviewed Sahith in the same seat about a month ago,
Speaker 1: and we were talking about him getting into Ping early.
Speaker 1: And then you get to that point where you're signing
Speaker 1: a contract with Ping, How weird was that day? How
Speaker 1: cool was that day? When you think back to your
Speaker 1: junior set and you've got a thirteen degree driver and
Speaker 1: you're putting that in play as you're twelve, thirteen, fourteen
Speaker 1: years old, and then you get to professional golf and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're a ping athlete. How was
Speaker 1: that experience for you and how was that moment?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: For me, since I was ten twelve, since I was
Speaker 3: really into golf, I've always been a big fan of ping.
Speaker 3: I remember in Chile they had a lot of professional
Speaker 3: tournaments and there was this few couple of guys where
Speaker 3: they have their ping bag. They're white and black, and
Speaker 3: I always look at it and I always dream of
Speaker 3: having a tour bag, you know, putting your clubs there,
Speaker 3: a clean towel. You know, you just feel like a pro.
Speaker 3: And I remember when I was I think I was fifteen,
Speaker 3: and I got in contact in contact with being and
Speaker 3: I was who helped me out. He was a Scott Sullivan,
Speaker 3: So I remember it was a little bit of a
Speaker 3: pain in the ass because I was all the way
Speaker 3: in Chile and sometimes I would ask them for clubs
Speaker 3: because I was not able to go to the us
Speaker 3: for a while, and they sent me the clubs they
Speaker 3: were sitting in Atuana for a couple of months, and I, oh,
Speaker 3: it was it was a lot of work to get
Speaker 3: clubs from from here to to Chile. And then yeah,
Speaker 3: and then when I turned pro, I always knew that
Speaker 3: I I was going to be a Pink player.
Speaker 4: I always been.
Speaker 3: I always used their clubs since I was fifty fourteen
Speaker 3: clubs I always been PIN. So yeah, everything came up
Speaker 3: pretty easy. I used to the driver. I mean, we
Speaker 3: always talk about it, how different the drivers look from
Speaker 3: each other, from different brands. And since I start using PIN,
Speaker 3: I every time I put another driver on the ground.
Speaker 3: It's not like I do it every time and I
Speaker 3: never do it, but but you see them and it's like,
Speaker 3: I mean, you get so used to the face, to
Speaker 3: the look of it, and obviously more than the fitting,
Speaker 3: how it feels. Once you put the driver on the ground,
Speaker 3: you immediately know that this is your club.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so walking, you play irons that help you launch
Speaker 2: a little bit higher in the air. So tell us
Speaker 2: about your kind of that journey choosing irons you play,
Speaker 2: and then you do some interesting things on what I
Speaker 2: think on the top end, of the bag into the
Speaker 2: wedges you play are like our specialty wedg forty eight
Speaker 2: degree as opposed to a pitching wedge. Right, what how
Speaker 2: do you make that decision like between the pitching wedge
Speaker 2: and you know, play.
Speaker 1: Forty forty six because I'm currently in exactly in that dilemma.
Speaker 1: I'm very interesting wedge. Yeah, it's like or do you
Speaker 1: play the game? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So I never just like plate plad faces on the irons.
Speaker 3: I always kind of like it a little bit bigger,
Speaker 3: and the eyeblades for me are the perfect size. But
Speaker 3: when I go to the wedges, obviously a wedge you
Speaker 3: like to see a knife there, you know. And I
Speaker 3: think the wedge is kind of like right there it
Speaker 3: does it has a number you got you know, you
Speaker 3: have number nine eight seven.
Speaker 4: The wedge is still at the Greek c love.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, right, you want to see that now.
Speaker 3: I like having the wedg and I like to play
Speaker 3: a lot between numbers from one hundred and fifty years down.
Speaker 3: I like to hit a lot of in between clubs.
Speaker 3: I like to take off a little bit. So the
Speaker 3: wedge is just perfect for me to control the distance
Speaker 3: a lot better. And yeah, obviously now we go for
Speaker 3: the four iron. I remember last year for the playoffs,
Speaker 3: I was with my coach and obviously for me, hitting
Speaker 3: high and spinny is hard. I prefer way better to
Speaker 3: hit it low and you know, with less spin. So
Speaker 3: we got to some courses where I got two twenty
Speaker 3: yards and I cannot stop it on the green because
Speaker 3: my fore arm doesn't launch too high. And I was
Speaker 3: with my coach and we were he was giving me
Speaker 3: this idea of trying a five rescue. I was like, no,
Speaker 3: I mean, I you know, you don't want to go.
Speaker 3: You don't want to take your forearm of the back.
Speaker 3: Maybe a three, but not a four. I'm twenty four.
Speaker 1: I don't need another head cover.
Speaker 4: And then you don't know you can put the four
Speaker 4: rescue were the four ron used to be?
Speaker 1: What slot? So there's a lot of the important professional
Speaker 1: golf problem.
Speaker 3: And my coach was like all over me, no, you
Speaker 3: gotta use it, like no, no, no, no, once I try,
Speaker 3: like yeah, it's awesome. I and I also sometimes when
Speaker 3: when we play a lot of Bermuda around the green,
Speaker 3: so I like, I used to love hitting like seven
Speaker 3: woods around the green and with the rescue now is
Speaker 3: it's unbelievable. And I remember I put it for the
Speaker 3: playoffs and and my coach was telling me, I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: you're gonna you're gonna win a lot of strokes, and
Speaker 3: every stroke you're gonna own me a certain out of
Speaker 3: money that we paid that time. And we started the
Speaker 3: B and W with that club, and I chip in
Speaker 3: like two times with that club, with with the with
Speaker 3: the with the fire rescue.
Speaker 1: It's like Todd Hamilton.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 3: And then then I got to Tour Championship and I
Speaker 3: always travel on number nine because you gotta hit a
Speaker 3: really good for iron to hit the green and yeah,
Speaker 3: and I think that week I hit the four rescue
Speaker 3: every day and I think I was like one under
Speaker 3: through the week and I missed a short part for
Speaker 3: very or I couldn't been two under on that whole easily, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this club is good.
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you a tinkerer? I mean are you?
Speaker 1: Are you someone that is always kind of tinkering with
Speaker 1: their clubs? Are you someone that gets their set?
Speaker 4: What I mean.
Speaker 1: Tinkering mean you're changing a lot, You're wanting to adjust
Speaker 1: maybe a grind, or you're replacing certain clubs in your bag.
Speaker 1: Or are you pretty consistent with your bag week to week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I'm pretty consistent with my bag. I think
Speaker 3: I had the same stuff for Friday since I start,
Speaker 3: since I start my.
Speaker 4: Professional career, I don't change much. I think.
Speaker 3: When I start changing too much, I kind of like
Speaker 3: start blaming a little bit of club and I want
Speaker 3: something yeah, and yeah, I mean I always I'm really
Speaker 3: like a few player and I and when I know
Speaker 3: the club is doing what I like, I just keep
Speaker 3: it on the back. And then if it's not doing
Speaker 3: what I was supposed to do, I know, I gotta
Speaker 3: I gotta change something on the swing or you gotta
Speaker 3: start feeling something different.
Speaker 4: And and I'm a little bit more that way.
Speaker 3: Maybe if I I think the most, the club that
Speaker 3: I have changed the most is maybe the sixty when
Speaker 3: I messed up a little bit with the lie with
Speaker 3: leading edge, depending on the course, the bankers, how much
Speaker 3: sunder is on it. And yeah, and then the other
Speaker 3: thing that I changed once since I turned pro it
Speaker 3: was my driver.
Speaker 4: Uh, now I have it a little bit more, a
Speaker 4: little longer.
Speaker 3: It's almost forty six, not quite, but yeah, almost forty six.
Speaker 3: And I gain a lot of the distance from there.
Speaker 3: And also it feels better for me. And also I
Speaker 3: hit a little straighted too.
Speaker 2: San, there's some there's some awesome lass is in this
Speaker 2: for the everyday golfer, Like what you're you're the rescue
Speaker 2: you play the hybrid you play is a five high right,
Speaker 2: so he's got five iron say it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, yeah, five.
Speaker 2: But that's such an important lesson I think, you know,
Speaker 2: because if you play our Eyeblades or our Blueprints I
Speaker 2: Series I two thirties, we have a lot of players
Speaker 2: that that the gapping those hybrids are meant to gap
Speaker 2: with our g right irons that go really far right.
Speaker 2: So you can play like the five hybrid and a
Speaker 2: five iron and the gaping will be good. You're probably
Speaker 2: hitting that like twenty percent higher in.
Speaker 3: The air, yeah, way before, and it's like a pitch
Speaker 3: in which yeah twenty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So some weeks you'll swap that out for form. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I think this week and the US Open,
Speaker 3: I might put the four iron because there's gonna be
Speaker 3: a little bit of wind there and kind of like
Speaker 3: mixing the yard and the numbers so.
Speaker 1: The par threes are a mile long.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, we.
Speaker 1: Were joking what is it is Evans. The lengthy one
Speaker 1: is that? Is that right? Sevens to nineties or two
Speaker 1: eighty six, but you know eleven is longer, but it's
Speaker 1: a little bit more downhill and into the win on seven.
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see the big head covers come
Speaker 1: off for certain players.
Speaker 4: Oh definitely.
Speaker 3: I mean just I play with Midi and Mido hit
Speaker 3: a beautiful three when he didn't hit degree, I mean
Speaker 3: it was just short.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, this is a far three. You mentioned
Speaker 1: being twenty four, and I wanted to ask you this
Speaker 1: because golf is getting younger by the minute, and as
Speaker 1: a twenty four year old, do you still feel like
Speaker 1: one of the young guys or are you starting to
Speaker 1: feel more like a veteran of professional golf considering every
Speaker 1: year two or three or four, you know, college graduates
Speaker 1: or amateur players are popping up and not just being
Speaker 1: on tour, but contending on tour.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 3: I mean, I obviously I'm still twenty four, but I
Speaker 3: all of these guys that are coming out now, I
Speaker 3: mean I feel that it'd be here for a while,
Speaker 3: and I feel long a long time. If I look
Speaker 3: back and I remember since I started. It does feel
Speaker 3: like a lot of years. But yeah, I mean, obviously
Speaker 3: I still feel like I'm I'm o kaid I'm in
Speaker 3: just twenty four I yeah, yeah, I mean doesn't feel
Speaker 3: much difference.
Speaker 2: Well, Kaya, I want to go back to that driver
Speaker 2: forty six inches or close to forty six. Now, what
Speaker 2: what did you play before that? And how did you
Speaker 2: kind of experiment with that?
Speaker 1: And what's the loft on the forty six?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So they had the four thirty with the LST. It's
Speaker 3: tend pointing five degrees around there, and I remember I
Speaker 3: had the standard shot. It was probably forty I think
Speaker 3: it's forty five quarter probably, yeah, yeah, yeah. I started
Speaker 3: messing with it, I think the week before the Presidents
Speaker 3: cut in twenty twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Yea.
Speaker 4: And what I did, I.
Speaker 3: We tipped the bottom of the chef a little bit,
Speaker 3: a little bit more one inch more thing it was,
Speaker 3: and then I left it a little bit longer, and
Speaker 3: I went from a D to rate D, from the
Speaker 3: D seven to.
Speaker 4: The D six six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so a little bit of I mean it was
Speaker 3: a little lighter, but a little bit longer. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean since since that year, I tried it for
Speaker 3: the first time at the President's cab any and he
Speaker 3: worked great. I mean I still hit a high a
Speaker 3: little bit higher. I can hit it low also, which
Speaker 3: is easier for me. So yeah, I can can wear
Speaker 3: around both ways. I mean, my driver is one of
Speaker 3: my favorite claps of the bag.
Speaker 2: So you saw an increase in ball speed with that, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and clap speed was probably like three three four miles more.
Speaker 2: There is such an important lesson Shane to be able
Speaker 2: to experiment with longer length. And then we even have
Speaker 2: some calculations on this for the every day golfer that
Speaker 2: you know. I think for every three yards you gain
Speaker 2: in distance, you can live with one more yard of offline,
Speaker 2: right if you if you're if you're on the tour
Speaker 2: level player. So it's it's fun to see not every
Speaker 2: PGA tour player, uh and player on the on the
Speaker 2: big tours, playing in the majors is playing a four
Speaker 2: four and a half inch driver, right, you know, and
Speaker 2: you're you're seeing more distance there, but we're still able
Speaker 2: to keep the control.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Obviously with your mechanics, you're you're you have a lot
Speaker 2: of handling and a dress and so that's why you're
Speaker 2: playing the ten point five right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, always been a higher love driver.
Speaker 3: I'd like to to see the face a little bit
Speaker 3: more open, because I mean, I say, for me, it's
Speaker 3: really easy to go down on it and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hit it low as low as I can.
Speaker 1: More natural for you to hit it load than Meah,
Speaker 1: try to get it up in the air.
Speaker 3: And then and then with this obviously, with this head
Speaker 3: and a little bit longer chef is way easier for me.
Speaker 3: I can step a little bit behind the ball and
Speaker 3: just send it along chair.
Speaker 1: So yeah, nice, I heard you're a car guy, big time, gark.
Speaker 1: What's the garage like right now? Can you just walk
Speaker 1: us through the walking name and gral.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm a big fan of cars. I love
Speaker 3: I love to read the look of them, I like
Speaker 3: to drive them. I mean, right now, I just put
Speaker 3: my last car and it was a well last car
Speaker 3: for now, because I know I'm gonna be kind of
Speaker 3: mixed it up of course right now. The last carboy
Speaker 3: was a GT three and I love it. His man
Speaker 3: on and so much fun to drive. And also the
Speaker 3: week after Washington, we went to Austin with Sergio and
Speaker 3: we rented the race drug in Austin, the one that
Speaker 3: the race for Formula one and I took my my McLaren.
Speaker 3: We took it there and we were driving on the
Speaker 3: track and he was one of the happiest day of
Speaker 3: my life.
Speaker 1: Did you was it hard to get you out of
Speaker 1: there where you're like, no, we can still.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we're right like at eight in the
Speaker 4: morning and we left like a five.
Speaker 3: Really it was all They had to put gas on
Speaker 3: the car for like two times.
Speaker 1: Do you do you have like rules about buying cars
Speaker 1: where Okay, if I win again, I can buy a
Speaker 1: car if I do certain things or is it just
Speaker 1: kind of when you're feeling itchy Instagram you go, you know.
Speaker 3: What, No, no, no, I like to I like to
Speaker 3: to give myself when I do something right, Like obviously
Speaker 3: I remember I was. I mean I was looking at
Speaker 3: car for a while, the McLaren, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I need to I need to play better to to
Speaker 3: kind of like give it to myself, right Yeah, And
Speaker 3: I I told Carlos, my agent, okay, uh, I want
Speaker 3: to buy this car.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: I was playing Hawaii the week after the next few
Speaker 3: weeks and obviously give me some extra motivation to play better.
Speaker 3: And after I finished second on the two weeks in Hawaii.
Speaker 3: Obviously I was based because I didn't win, but I
Speaker 3: told Carlos, like, I really want this car.
Speaker 4: Can we do something? Yeah? I think you deserve it.
Speaker 4: That's final. Yeah, do it all right? Thank you? I
Speaker 4: went and start string.
Speaker 1: That's good negotiation.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's not like I'm gonna by this card. All right,
Speaker 3: thank you? No, I got I would like to put
Speaker 3: some rules on myself. And also if I mean, if
Speaker 3: I had a bad attitude on the golf course or
Speaker 3: I don't like to give myself.
Speaker 2: I've heard you have a simulator. Actually, so what's it is?
Speaker 2: This is this in the house in the house, So
Speaker 2: what's it like? Uh, you know, driving on the simulator
Speaker 2: then going on the track, and how does that compare
Speaker 2: to I don't know if if you ever played simulator
Speaker 2: golf or hitting doors, how does it compare to the
Speaker 2: golf side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's actually pretty I mean I would said that
Speaker 3: it helps me a lot to to be a little
Speaker 3: better on on the on the racetrack with a regular car.
Speaker 3: I mean I spent a lot of time on the
Speaker 3: on the simulator and it is a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: I I actually both the same simulator as uh Sergio
Speaker 3: and Carlos did, so we we kind of like play
Speaker 3: online into each other.
Speaker 4: And I I mean it's awesome.
Speaker 3: You can raise Formula one to like a normal like
Speaker 3: a g D three or like McLaren. I mean, you
Speaker 3: can raise the same cars that I mean, any type
Speaker 3: of car you can in my in and and it
Speaker 3: changed all the vibrations on the steering wheel, the breaking,
Speaker 3: the acceleration, so it is a lot of fun. And
Speaker 3: also you can kind of like learn the learn the
Speaker 3: truck also, like I race on online on the Austin
Speaker 3: racetrack and you can kind of have an idea of
Speaker 3: the breaking points and the turns and.
Speaker 1: The full on scouting one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very impressed, and it's and it's awesome.
Speaker 3: I mean you can and then when you really get
Speaker 3: there to the racetrack, I mean obviously now you got
Speaker 3: your I mean now, I mean now it's between that
Speaker 3: and I mean you can dive you messed up. So
Speaker 3: it's not like on the similarity where you can break
Speaker 3: right there. Here is like I think I'm gonna break
Speaker 3: a little bit there.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get as much leeway
Speaker 1: do you do any online scouting for golf courses? I mean,
Speaker 1: do you ever do like look at videos before like
Speaker 1: a major Champions of course that you played or I
Speaker 1: haven't seen it all.
Speaker 3: So for this course, I was trying to find out
Speaker 3: golf tournament, but there there were none tournaments before, and
Speaker 3: the USDA had had a video like a flyover, and yeah,
Speaker 3: like I like to do that kind of like have
Speaker 3: an idea of what the course is doing. And I
Speaker 3: also once I played the tournament, I kind of have
Speaker 3: a better idea where where the fairway is going, what
Speaker 3: the greens is doing. And I like also to visualized
Speaker 3: a little bit my shots, so that like seeing the
Speaker 3: flyovers or past tournaments, it can it can really help.
Speaker 1: You a little bit like the track where you kind
Speaker 1: of have an idea of what it's going to look like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, walking in, let's talk about punning a little bit.
Speaker 2: You're using a pod answer. What is your journey been
Speaker 2: on putters through your career? You know, from a junior
Speaker 2: till now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I change a little bit.
Speaker 3: I remember, I mean I always have the same same
Speaker 3: answer to I need to have the answer to when
Speaker 3: I came out and I remember I had a thirty
Speaker 3: four inches shaft thirty three maybe, and I started working
Speaker 3: with Stan Ali during my first two years and I
Speaker 3: went a little bit longer shaft I think to thirty
Speaker 3: six and yeah, I mean it's always nice to have
Speaker 3: options and people that can't help you out here on
Speaker 3: the track to to obviously, I mean the more you try,
Speaker 3: you can have a better idea of what were the
Speaker 3: difference of the club, the shaft, what they do, how
Speaker 3: they feel. And yeah, with the pottery, I went from
Speaker 3: thirty six inches and then we build a pod because
Speaker 3: I didn't lie the I don't know how you the
Speaker 3: regular line the long line that it has on the
Speaker 3: on the bottom, because I like to part with the
Speaker 3: with the line on the ball, so sometimes that line
Speaker 3: with the line of the pottery was kind of like not.
Speaker 4: On the same line for me from my eyes.
Speaker 3: And we build with Tony pod an answer to with
Speaker 3: the line on top like a really short line, yeah
Speaker 3: around the top round and that is I mean that's
Speaker 3: been my gamer for or I mean probably three three
Speaker 3: years almost. Are you still using that long I went
Speaker 3: back to thirty thirty five I think it is right now,
Speaker 3: but yeah, it's the same club face, the same pattern
Speaker 3: face for for a while and I and.
Speaker 4: I really love it. I we messed a lot with
Speaker 4: the also with the with the face of the Potter.
Speaker 3: We had like no, like super firm how you call it,
Speaker 3: when it's just smooth, yeah, smooth melling.
Speaker 4: And then we go to semi deep million and then
Speaker 4: super deep.
Speaker 3: We kind of like try everything, and I mean and
Speaker 3: I and for me that's the softer it comes off
Speaker 3: the face. For me, like I have a better feeling
Speaker 3: of what the boy is gonna do and the spirit
Speaker 3: of the Potter, Yeah, distant control. So yeah, and that's
Speaker 3: been Mike Potter. Sometimes he behaves really good. Sometimes it
Speaker 3: doesn't behave really good, but he's.
Speaker 1: Get in trouble if it's just put it away from
Speaker 1: the bag, like what's the what's the.
Speaker 4: He is my baby.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're nice to it.
Speaker 4: I always try to talk nice to it.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: I yeah, he never had a hard time. He he
Speaker 3: goes on the back nicely. He yeah, you got to
Speaker 3: use it on every whole the right. He knows I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be with him, par I mean sometimes probably a
Speaker 3: good idea to have another one there that way he
Speaker 3: feels Jealousyah, sure, but yeah, I'm not like that.
Speaker 1: We'll get you out on this. What's your favorite thing
Speaker 1: about living in the US and what's the number one
Speaker 1: thing you miss about home?
Speaker 4: H number one?
Speaker 3: Living in I mean I live in Palm Beach right now,
Speaker 3: And for me, I picked up place because obviously, I
Speaker 3: think is where I can be a better player. I
Speaker 3: can focus more on my game, on my day to
Speaker 3: day routines, and yeah, I think it's where I can
Speaker 3: be a better golfer. And what I miss of Chile
Speaker 3: obviously are are I mean my friends, my own family
Speaker 3: lives in Chile, So that's kind of tough a little
Speaker 3: bit sometimes, but obviously it is what I decide to be.
Speaker 4: And sometimes it's hard to be away from home for
Speaker 4: so long.
Speaker 3: I mean I just go back for early at December
Speaker 3: for a couple probably one month for New Year and Christmas.
Speaker 3: But but yeah, I mean they understand that this is
Speaker 3: what I love and this is what I yeah, this
Speaker 3: is what I love to do, and they understand pretty good.
Speaker 1: When you go home. What is the reception like when
Speaker 1: the plane lands and you get off the plane. Is
Speaker 1: it a celebration, are there people there? Or is it
Speaker 1: pretty calm and cool and collected and you just got
Speaker 1: to go home and just plend it.
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it's getting every time a little bit
Speaker 3: more busy. Obviously, whenever I go back, I always try
Speaker 3: to do something on the golf course where they can
Speaker 3: watch me play, because there is a lot of people
Speaker 3: dally they cannot travel to the US, which is way
Speaker 3: too far for them expensive and being able to play
Speaker 3: in Chile, have all the people there enjoy a golf
Speaker 3: around in a golf tournament that I can play there
Speaker 3: in Chile, And it's also something that I really love
Speaker 3: to go and play in Chile. I mean, probably right
Speaker 3: now is probably too much people, and it's hard for
Speaker 3: me to focus on playing golf there because it's so
Speaker 3: much going on. But I mean, there is nothing for
Speaker 3: me better than going back there playing with my friends,
Speaker 3: play a little game, play different courses that we used
Speaker 3: to play in Chile when I was sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 4: Like those memories for me are never going to I'm
Speaker 4: never gonna forgot those.
Speaker 2: You mean, who hits it further off the tea?
Speaker 4: Oh have you seen his size?
Speaker 1: I think the face do you see hits his face?
Speaker 4: Hat off?
Speaker 1: He didn't have to answer.
Speaker 4: He's a Bill different to be.
Speaker 1: He's not what I mean, if you get him, do
Speaker 1: you tell him that?
Speaker 3: I mean sometimes I can, yeah, I can hit it
Speaker 3: past him, but most of the time he's past me.
Speaker 3: I mean sometimes he's he's not trying to hit it
Speaker 3: too hard and I'm trying to give you everything.
Speaker 4: So I think those times when.
Speaker 1: I'm like six degrees.
Speaker 3: But if we go there Midia and I told me
Speaker 3: that hid as hard as you can, and I try
Speaker 3: to hit as hard as I can, hear he will
Speaker 3: get me.
Speaker 1: What is a week to week I'm gonna eat at
Speaker 1: this place every week on the road. What's your place
Speaker 1: on the road.
Speaker 4: Oh, it is hard decision right now.
Speaker 3: I think my first couple of years he used to
Speaker 3: be Chipotle, I was, I go to plays and I
Speaker 3: feel like that's.
Speaker 1: The I feel like that's the PG eight Tour answer.
Speaker 4: But I mean I do think the same.
Speaker 1: Are you Are you not doing anymore?
Speaker 4: You not anymore? Let a little tired of that?
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, so you're you're you're kind of in between
Speaker 1: spots right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean with lately we're renting houses and
Speaker 3: we had a chair for all of us, so he's yeah,
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: You're gonna do it out this week?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, on Sunday Sunday.
Speaker 1: If let's say, let's say you win the US Open,
Speaker 1: still in and out on Sunday and out on Sunday.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the way you should celebrate a US
Speaker 1: Open winner.
Speaker 3: I al would like to have a burger on Sundays.
Speaker 3: I mean, I like files, but on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like walking, Now, you're you're an avocado guy, right,
Speaker 2: so how do you actually eat it on the golf course?
Speaker 4: Like, how do you do?
Speaker 1: This is an encorese snack?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: No, no, I just if I wait too much to
Speaker 3: the aloco is not gonna look good. So I'll keep
Speaker 3: it for my breakfast or after the round.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I love it. And Chili is a big thing.
Speaker 3: You eat a lot of smash avocado on a toast,
Speaker 3: and that's the one thing I do when I arrive
Speaker 3: in to Chili.
Speaker 4: It's a different type of thread Tuesday. That way. It
Speaker 4: tastes so good.
Speaker 1: Well, walking, really appreciate it. I'm good luck this week
Speaker 1: and look the rest of the year and we'll chat
Speaker 1: with you soon. Keep trying to hit it past me
Speaker 1: to Okay.
Speaker 4: There you go, that's right there.
Speaker 2: You go.
Speaker 1: And this is the Thinking Browns podcast.