WEBVTT - Episode 6: Joaquín Niemann 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.400 The guys from Paying They've kind of showed me how 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:05.120 much the equipment matters. I just love that I can 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:06.560 hit any shot I kind of want. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:08.520 We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:10.640 what goes on here to help golfers play better golf. 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:14.200 Hey, welcome back to the Pink Proving Grounds Podcast. I'm 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:17.120 Shane Baking. That is Marty Jertsen. We're with Joaquin Neeman 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:20.239 and we're in the tour truck Joaquin, and we're in La. 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:23.760 It's US Open week. You come back to La. What 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:26.479 are the vibes like for you, obviously with the success 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:27.520 you had last year Riviera? 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:33.839 Yeahs always I always enjoying coming back to California. We 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:36.560 are pretty close from Riviera. I got obviously really good 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:39.600 memories from that place. And yeah, I mean the only 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:41.720 I think the only similar thing about here is just 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:45.560 the year so totally different cored than we play at rev. 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.400 Tell us about that week, just recap the week last 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.800 last year at riv Viewers. I mean, it's got to 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.000 be super rare to win wire to wire, and especially 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:58.080 that tournament. It was one of the most stacked fields. 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:02.120 I think you're all eleven and the top eleven, the 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:03.960 top eleven players in the world were in the field. 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.080 No decent start, by the way to Marty sixty three, 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:08.080 sixty three, I'll play at almost any golf course in 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:08.400 the world. 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:10.720 So just tell us about that week. Every round round one, 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:13.520 round two, how you're feeling, and yeah. 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.120 That was, yeah, I was. 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.559 I remember Actually that was probably like the last couple 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:22.360 of weeks of February, and I remember seeing Story Pines. 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:25.679 I was playing amazing golf and I told my team, 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:30.160 my coach that, I mean, it's I remember telling them 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.880 that the game feels so close, that he's right there. 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:34.800 I just need to be patient. I was having a 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:38.440 great attitude on the golf course. I was kind of 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:41.840 like really understanding my swing, what was going on, where 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.319 the ball was going. Then I remember I played like 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.840 two or three more tournaments after Tory and I felt 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:51.680 I was right there. And the week before I was 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:54.960 at my house and I had such a week week 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.640 off there where how the way I trained, the way 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:02.560 I prepare. Once I came to Revere, it just felt 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:04.880 like pretty pretty simple. I mean I just needed to 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.360 go out there play golf. I knew it was coming 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:12.680 at any time, and yeah, I mean, I played amazing 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.760 all the first two rounds. I didn't feel like it 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:19.840 was on match effort, just hitting the board nicely off 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:25.760 the tee. I was putting amazing. My approach as to 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.280 the green were pretty good too, So I mean everything 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:32.640 that we was amazing the first two rounds. Obviously, then 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.360 we go to the to Saturday, and for me, the 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:38.120 weekend was more like another tournament. Obviously, you got the 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:42.360 first two days I was leading, but obviously you still 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.200 need to win the tournament. You got two more days. 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.760 I remember Saturday was a really good day too. 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:49.760 I got it. 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:52.560 I think I was five under a moment and I 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:58.760 was probably twenty twenty twenty one under a thing, and I. 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.320 Was like, wow, this is working. 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.360 And then I always travel a little bit on number 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.400 twelve and on the teacher on number twelve. It doesn't 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.560 fit well for me, like you want to hit that 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:12.400 little fade, but you don't want to start it too 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.160 far left. So I was kind of always on that 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:19.079 right raft. But yeah, I mean, Saturday was a really 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:21.640 good day. I didn't finish the right way, I think, 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:23.880 but but yeah, I mean I knew. 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:24.640 I knew that. 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:29.080 On Sunday, I had a little margin, but I still 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:33.520 needed to play well again. And yeah, I mean I 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:37.000 played with Carmen Young, and I felt that I started 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.520 the round pretty good other than I three pattern number 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.040 number one or I miss a short pattern number one 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:47.520 for Bertie. But I kind of was still really focused 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:50.040 on my game. I knew I was hitting the ball grade. 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:54.120 I have a great warm up, and I remember on 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.320 the warm up, I remember this. I was on the 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:59.360 right side of the range and there's like a little 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:02.800 chipping green there and I always like doing little beds 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:06.000 with guy with my caddy before we go out. And 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:07.880 I was like forty yards to this, being on the 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:11.080 on the on the chipping green, and I was warming up. 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:15.640 I grabbed my driver, start heating drivers. Alright, big, how 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:17.320 much if I if I make it to the hale, 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.080 like I'm just messing a run with the driver and 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:21.720 I he like a fifty year driver and. 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:22.280 I made it. 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.560 I was there with my trainer also with a see 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.400 and he would lay all right, I think I'm ready. 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.760 Yeah, I think I can go out and play now. Yeah, 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.919 that's what's the stress level. I mean, golf is so 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.440 funny because we get more stressed when we're in a 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.599 position that makes us uncomfortable. You know, when a guy 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.520 that's never broke eighty is sitting on seventy eight on 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:45.320 the eighteenth t you know, and all of a sudden 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:47.599 you're stressed out, even though that's where you want it 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.480 to be for so long in your life. You open 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:53.680 sixty three, sixty three at this historic golf course, historic tournament, 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:55.600 and you said, it's a different tournament. When you get 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:59.679 the Saturday, does the stress almost intensify because you played 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:01.560 so well those first two rounds. 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:06.400 Yeah, after those first two rounds, obviously, expectations are way 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:08.600 lower the first two That the first two rounds. 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:10.080 And you just went out there and play, and I 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:10.800 play amazing. 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:13.960 And then obviously the next two days you you you 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.280 know that you can win the tournament and you want 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:21.160 to win it. So yeah, I think I think expectations 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.960 are a little bit higher on the weekend. But I 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:28.920 also were pretty good to manage my game, especially on Saturday. 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.240 I think Saturday was a really important day to yet 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:39.520 prepare for Sunday. And yeah, I mean also it helps 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.280 a lot being we stayed in the house with with 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.000 all my friends also, and that helped me a lot 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.720 to kind of get distracted on what was going on 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:48.440 on the golf course. 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:52.200 Yeah, so walking, we've heard, uh, you travel around, you 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.800 gotta you gotta tight crew, you gott you travel with. 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.800 What are some fun things you do to decompress when 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:59.159 you're traveling playing tournaments? 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:04.800 Yeah, remember, well it always changed. It used to be 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:09.000 a lot of gaming before. We remember with Carlos and 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:13.000 Sebastian Munos, we stayed the three of us together, and 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.559 at that time, we're playing a lot of Call of Duty, 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:20.480 and I remember we we always tried to go up early, 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:25.719 do our practice early, play early, trying to do everything early. 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:28.200 That way we can come back to the house and 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:29.560 do videogames. 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.640 I gotta go to work for a little bit and 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:32.239 have some fun. 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.840 But yeah, then, yeah, that was that was a lot 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:39.400 of fun. And I the other day we were talking 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:43.920 about it, and I remember the sometimes that playing video 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:45.480 against it helped me a lot to kind of like 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.840 forget about it what was going on the golf course. 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.719 And I remember Greenbrier when I won. 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:54.720 I on Sunday, my team I was like at three 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:56.960 pm something like that. I wake up like at seven 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.520 in the morning, and all my friends at that time 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:03.640 were into Fortnite, and I was like, wake up, I 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.560 already have a coffee, I have breakfast, and like, I mean, 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:08.360 I got like six hours. 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.800 To warm up. Hey, guys, you want to play Fortnite? 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.080 Start playing for for like three four hours before my tea, 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.440 and I kind of like forgot about everything, you know, 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:17.440 So it was pretty cool. 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.280 Gaming can get the mind away from the golf course. 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.840 Really important question here, how long did it take you 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.200 living in the United States where you stopped getting annoyed 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:28.520 that Americans called it chili? 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:30.400 What do you say Chile? 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:33.360 You know, Americans say Chili, they don't say Chile. How 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.320 long did it take you to realize that's the way 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:36.680 Americans pronounce it? 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.480 Yeah, I mean between that and my name, it just 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:43.080 I think it's too much more for this. 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:45.480 Our accents don't work great. 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:45.920 But it's fine. 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.800 Yeah, I gotta kind of like learn instead of Wuago 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.400 with Jay. I gotta say, like try to say Wuago 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:57.360 with like a way, and they kind of started getting it. Then, Yeah, 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.560 they think I'm from Chile and they started talking about 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:02.080 the chili, the. 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:03.320 Spicy eat right. 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:04.240 Yeah. 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.880 Yeah, actually don't have much spicy like Mexicans do, but yeah. 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.840 What can you tell us about just your start with Ping, 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:15.680 like the first clubs you got, just what that journey 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:17.200 looked like. When did you start playing golf? 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.720 Yeah, I started playing probably when I was three two 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.760 years old. I was always walking in my house with 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:27.800 plastic clubs. Yeah, everywhere. I got pictures that I can 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:31.120 barely walk and I was with a plastic bag walking around. 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:38.000 And I think I remember on Christmas when I was 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:42.040 I don't know, probably like eight seven years old, I 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.080 got my first set of clubs and it was the 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:44.960 pink Moxie. 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.960 I don't know if you guys remember that one all 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:49.040 blue blue bag. 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:49.640 Yep. 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.760 It was the driver that it was like thirteen degrees 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:58.600 and I remember that after I got like a bigger 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.719 set than the Pink Moxy, I came that driver as 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.800 a three wood. Now I was using my other driver 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:06.720 and I had this Ping Maxi driver that was like 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.079 through thirteen degrees and I was hitting it like a 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.880 fair with would any It was my favorite club over 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:12.199 the back. 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:17.600 We interviewed Sahith in the same seat about a month ago, 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.360 and we were talking about him getting into Ping early. 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.800 And then you get to that point where you're signing 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:26.160 a contract with Ping, How weird was that day? How 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.520 cool was that day? When you think back to your 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:31.560 junior set and you've got a thirteen degree driver and 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.480 you're putting that in play as you're twelve, thirteen, fourteen 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.040 years old, and then you get to professional golf and 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.480 all of a sudden you're a ping athlete. How was 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.040 that experience for you and how was that moment? 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:42.640 Yeah? 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:47.520 For me, since I was ten twelve, since I was 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.800 really into golf, I've always been a big fan of ping. 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.959 I remember in Chile they had a lot of professional 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:57.520 tournaments and there was this few couple of guys where 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.880 they have their ping bag. They're white and black, and 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.640 I always look at it and I always dream of 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.360 having a tour bag, you know, putting your clubs there, 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.640 a clean towel. You know, you just feel like a pro. 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:15.360 And I remember when I was I think I was fifteen, 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.600 and I got in contact in contact with being and 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:22.640 I was who helped me out. He was a Scott Sullivan, 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.240 So I remember it was a little bit of a 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:28.800 pain in the ass because I was all the way 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:34.400 in Chile and sometimes I would ask them for clubs 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.480 because I was not able to go to the us 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:39.960 for a while, and they sent me the clubs they 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:43.760 were sitting in Atuana for a couple of months, and I, oh, 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.440 it was it was a lot of work to get 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:50.480 clubs from from here to to Chile. And then yeah, 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.320 and then when I turned pro, I always knew that 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:56.280 I I was going to be a Pink player. 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:57.640 I always been. 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:01.040 I always used their clubs since I was fifty fourteen 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:05.080 clubs I always been PIN. So yeah, everything came up 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:10.520 pretty easy. I used to the driver. I mean, we 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.400 always talk about it, how different the drivers look from 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:17.360 each other, from different brands. And since I start using PIN, 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:21.319 I every time I put another driver on the ground. 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:23.560 It's not like I do it every time and I 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.840 never do it, but but you see them and it's like, 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:29.120 I mean, you get so used to the face, to 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:32.000 the look of it, and obviously more than the fitting, 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.600 how it feels. Once you put the driver on the ground, 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.600 you immediately know that this is your club. 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:43.680 Yeah, so walking, you play irons that help you launch 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.520 a little bit higher in the air. So tell us 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:50.760 about your kind of that journey choosing irons you play, 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.920 and then you do some interesting things on what I 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.160 think on the top end, of the bag into the 0:11:57.160 --> 0:12:02.319 wedges you play are like our specialty wedg forty eight 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.319 degree as opposed to a pitching wedge. Right, what how 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:08.360 do you make that decision like between the pitching wedge 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:09.640 and you know, play. 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:14.280 Forty forty six because I'm currently in exactly in that dilemma. 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:17.560 I'm very interesting wedge. Yeah, it's like or do you 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:18.360 play the game? Yeah? 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:24.480 So I never just like plate plad faces on the irons. 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.400 I always kind of like it a little bit bigger, 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.800 and the eyeblades for me are the perfect size. But 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:33.000 when I go to the wedges, obviously a wedge you 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:37.280 like to see a knife there, you know. And I 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.679 think the wedge is kind of like right there it 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.840 does it has a number you got you know, you 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:43.280 have number nine eight seven. 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.640 The wedge is still at the Greek c love. 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:49.160 Right, yeah, right, you want to see that now. 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.880 I like having the wedg and I like to play 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:56.000 a lot between numbers from one hundred and fifty years down. 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.000 I like to hit a lot of in between clubs. 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:00.800 I like to take off a little bit. So the 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:05.559 wedge is just perfect for me to control the distance 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:10.000 a lot better. And yeah, obviously now we go for 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:14.480 the four iron. I remember last year for the playoffs, 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:19.920 I was with my coach and obviously for me, hitting 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.280 high and spinny is hard. I prefer way better to 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.240 hit it low and you know, with less spin. So 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.360 we got to some courses where I got two twenty 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.840 yards and I cannot stop it on the green because 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:35.560 my fore arm doesn't launch too high. And I was 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.160 with my coach and we were he was giving me 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:43.120 this idea of trying a five rescue. I was like, no, 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:45.720 I mean, I you know, you don't want to go. 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:47.600 You don't want to take your forearm of the back. 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.640 Maybe a three, but not a four. I'm twenty four. 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:54.000 I don't need another head cover. 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:57.600 And then you don't know you can put the four 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.120 rescue were the four ron used to be? 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:07.240 What slot? So there's a lot of the important professional 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:07.880 golf problem. 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.120 And my coach was like all over me, no, you 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:15.760 gotta use it, like no, no, no, no, once I try, 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:22.880 like yeah, it's awesome. I and I also sometimes when 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.520 when we play a lot of Bermuda around the green, 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.520 so I like, I used to love hitting like seven 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.360 woods around the green and with the rescue now is 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.760 it's unbelievable. And I remember I put it for the 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:40.160 playoffs and and my coach was telling me, I'm telling you, 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:43.120 you're gonna you're gonna win a lot of strokes, and 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.640 every stroke you're gonna own me a certain out of 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:49.760 money that we paid that time. And we started the 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.320 B and W with that club, and I chip in 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.040 like two times with that club, with with the with 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.760 the with the fire rescue. 0:14:57.880 --> 0:14:58.800 It's like Todd Hamilton. 0:14:59.200 --> 0:14:59.480 Yes. 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.920 And then then I got to Tour Championship and I 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:06.600 always travel on number nine because you gotta hit a 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:11.240 really good for iron to hit the green and yeah, 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.040 and I think that week I hit the four rescue 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.120 every day and I think I was like one under 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.240 through the week and I missed a short part for 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.120 very or I couldn't been two under on that whole easily, Like, yeah, 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:23.960 this club is good. 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:26.800 Are you? Are you a tinkerer? I mean are you? 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:28.880 Are you someone that is always kind of tinkering with 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.440 their clubs? Are you someone that gets their set? 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:32.360 What I mean. 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.360 Tinkering mean you're changing a lot, You're wanting to adjust 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.760 maybe a grind, or you're replacing certain clubs in your bag. 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.160 Or are you pretty consistent with your bag week to week. 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:44.480 Yeah, No, I'm pretty consistent with my bag. I think 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:49.080 I had the same stuff for Friday since I start, 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:50.280 since I start my. 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:54.160 Professional career, I don't change much. I think. 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.400 When I start changing too much, I kind of like 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:02.600 start blaming a little bit of club and I want 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:07.160 something yeah, and yeah, I mean I always I'm really 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:10.400 like a few player and I and when I know 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.960 the club is doing what I like, I just keep 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.560 it on the back. And then if it's not doing 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:17.440 what I was supposed to do, I know, I gotta 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:19.440 I gotta change something on the swing or you gotta 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.160 start feeling something different. 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:23.760 And and I'm a little bit more that way. 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:28.440 Maybe if I I think the most, the club that 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.960 I have changed the most is maybe the sixty when 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.280 I messed up a little bit with the lie with 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.800 leading edge, depending on the course, the bankers, how much 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:41.120 sunder is on it. And yeah, and then the other 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.640 thing that I changed once since I turned pro it 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:44.560 was my driver. 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:47.640 Uh, now I have it a little bit more, a 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:48.240 little longer. 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:51.520 It's almost forty six, not quite, but yeah, almost forty six. 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:53.840 And I gain a lot of the distance from there. 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.680 And also it feels better for me. And also I 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:57.840 hit a little straighted too. 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.400 San, there's some there's some awesome lass is in this 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:04.000 for the everyday golfer, Like what you're you're the rescue 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.040 you play the hybrid you play is a five high right, 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.399 so he's got five iron say it? 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.120 Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, yeah, five. 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.520 But that's such an important lesson I think, you know, 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:18.480 because if you play our Eyeblades or our Blueprints I 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.280 Series I two thirties, we have a lot of players 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:23.600 that that the gapping those hybrids are meant to gap 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.680 with our g right irons that go really far right. 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.440 So you can play like the five hybrid and a 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.800 five iron and the gaping will be good. You're probably 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.040 hitting that like twenty percent higher in. 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:36.400 The air, yeah, way before, and it's like a pitch 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.359 in which yeah twenty five. 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.440 Yeah, So some weeks you'll swap that out for form. Yeah. 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.560 I think I think this week and the US Open, 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:46.679 I might put the four iron because there's gonna be 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:48.719 a little bit of wind there and kind of like 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:50.320 mixing the yard and the numbers so. 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:53.560 The par threes are a mile long. 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:58.560 Yeah, right, we. 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.280 Were joking what is it is Evans. The lengthy one 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:03.680 is that? Is that right? Sevens to nineties or two 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.239 eighty six, but you know eleven is longer, but it's 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:09.399 a little bit more downhill and into the win on seven. 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.320 I think you're gonna see the big head covers come 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:13.280 off for certain players. 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:13.959 Oh definitely. 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.639 I mean just I play with Midi and Mido hit 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:20.080 a beautiful three when he didn't hit degree, I mean 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:20.879 it was just short. 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.560 Yeah, you're like, this is a far three. You mentioned 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:26.919 being twenty four, and I wanted to ask you this 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:30.720 because golf is getting younger by the minute, and as 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.000 a twenty four year old, do you still feel like 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:34.879 one of the young guys or are you starting to 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:38.800 feel more like a veteran of professional golf considering every 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.720 year two or three or four, you know, college graduates 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:43.760 or amateur players are popping up and not just being 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:45.680 on tour, but contending on tour. 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:46.520 Yeah, it's funny. 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:51.000 I mean, I obviously I'm still twenty four, but I 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.520 all of these guys that are coming out now, I 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.560 mean I feel that it'd be here for a while, 0:18:56.560 --> 0:19:00.240 and I feel long a long time. If I look 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:03.560 back and I remember since I started. It does feel 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:06.560 like a lot of years. But yeah, I mean, obviously 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:08.919 I still feel like I'm I'm o kaid I'm in 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:13.360 just twenty four I yeah, yeah, I mean doesn't feel 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:14.120 much difference. 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:15.960 Well, Kaya, I want to go back to that driver 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:18.800 forty six inches or close to forty six. Now, what 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.639 what did you play before that? And how did you 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:22.720 kind of experiment with that? 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:25.040 And what's the loft on the forty six? 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:25.440 Yeah? 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:29.880 So they had the four thirty with the LST. It's 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:34.000 tend pointing five degrees around there, and I remember I 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:36.720 had the standard shot. It was probably forty I think 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:42.359 it's forty five quarter probably, yeah, yeah, yeah. I started 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.880 messing with it, I think the week before the Presidents 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:47.840 cut in twenty twenty nineteen. 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:48.200 Yea. 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.679