1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: The guys from Paying They've kind of showed me how 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: much the equipment matters. I just love that I can 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: hit any shot I kind of want. 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about 5 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: what goes on here to help golfers play better golf. 6 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to the Pink Proving Grounds Podcast. I'm 7 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: Shane Baking. That is Marty Jertsen. We're with Joaquin Neeman 8 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: and we're in the tour truck Joaquin, and we're in La. 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: It's US Open week. You come back to La. What 10 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: are the vibes like for you, obviously with the success 11 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: you had last year Riviera? 12 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 3: Yeahs always I always enjoying coming back to California. We 13 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 3: are pretty close from Riviera. I got obviously really good 14 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: memories from that place. And yeah, I mean the only 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: I think the only similar thing about here is just 16 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 3: the year so totally different cored than we play at rev. 17 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: Tell us about that week, just recap the week last 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: last year at riv Viewers. I mean, it's got to 19 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: be super rare to win wire to wire, and especially 20 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: that tournament. It was one of the most stacked fields. 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: I think you're all eleven and the top eleven, the 22 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: top eleven players in the world were in the field. 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: No decent start, by the way to Marty sixty three, 24 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: sixty three, I'll play at almost any golf course in 25 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: the world. 26 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: So just tell us about that week. Every round round one, 27 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: round two, how you're feeling, and yeah. 28 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 4: That was, yeah, I was. 29 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 3: I remember Actually that was probably like the last couple 30 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: of weeks of February, and I remember seeing Story Pines. 31 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: I was playing amazing golf and I told my team, 32 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 3: my coach that, I mean, it's I remember telling them 33 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: that the game feels so close, that he's right there. 34 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: I just need to be patient. I was having a 35 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: great attitude on the golf course. I was kind of 36 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: like really understanding my swing, what was going on, where 37 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 3: the ball was going. Then I remember I played like 38 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: two or three more tournaments after Tory and I felt 39 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: I was right there. And the week before I was 40 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: at my house and I had such a week week 41 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: off there where how the way I trained, the way 42 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 3: I prepare. Once I came to Revere, it just felt 43 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: like pretty pretty simple. I mean I just needed to 44 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: go out there play golf. I knew it was coming 45 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 3: at any time, and yeah, I mean, I played amazing 46 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: all the first two rounds. I didn't feel like it 47 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 3: was on match effort, just hitting the board nicely off 48 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: the tee. I was putting amazing. My approach as to 49 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: the green were pretty good too, So I mean everything 50 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: that we was amazing the first two rounds. Obviously, then 51 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 3: we go to the to Saturday, and for me, the 52 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 3: weekend was more like another tournament. Obviously, you got the 53 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: first two days I was leading, but obviously you still 54 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: need to win the tournament. You got two more days. 55 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: I remember Saturday was a really good day too. 56 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 4: I got it. 57 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: I think I was five under a moment and I 58 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: was probably twenty twenty twenty one under a thing, and I. 59 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: Was like, wow, this is working. 60 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: And then I always travel a little bit on number 61 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: twelve and on the teacher on number twelve. It doesn't 62 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: fit well for me, like you want to hit that 63 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: little fade, but you don't want to start it too 64 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: far left. So I was kind of always on that 65 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 3: right raft. But yeah, I mean, Saturday was a really 66 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 3: good day. I didn't finish the right way, I think, 67 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: but but yeah, I mean I knew. 68 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 4: I knew that. 69 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 3: On Sunday, I had a little margin, but I still 70 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: needed to play well again. And yeah, I mean I 71 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: played with Carmen Young, and I felt that I started 72 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: the round pretty good other than I three pattern number 73 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: number one or I miss a short pattern number one 74 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: for Bertie. But I kind of was still really focused 75 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: on my game. I knew I was hitting the ball grade. 76 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: I have a great warm up, and I remember on 77 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: the warm up, I remember this. I was on the 78 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: right side of the range and there's like a little 79 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: chipping green there and I always like doing little beds 80 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: with guy with my caddy before we go out. And 81 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: I was like forty yards to this, being on the 82 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: on the on the chipping green, and I was warming up. 83 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: I grabbed my driver, start heating drivers. Alright, big, how 84 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: much if I if I make it to the hale, 85 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: like I'm just messing a run with the driver and 86 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 3: I he like a fifty year driver and. 87 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 4: I made it. 88 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: I was there with my trainer also with a see 89 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: and he would lay all right, I think I'm ready. 90 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I can go out and play now. Yeah, 91 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: that's what's the stress level. I mean, golf is so 92 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: funny because we get more stressed when we're in a 93 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: position that makes us uncomfortable. You know, when a guy 94 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: that's never broke eighty is sitting on seventy eight on 95 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: the eighteenth t you know, and all of a sudden 96 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: you're stressed out, even though that's where you want it 97 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: to be for so long in your life. You open 98 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: sixty three, sixty three at this historic golf course, historic tournament, 99 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: and you said, it's a different tournament. When you get 100 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 1: the Saturday, does the stress almost intensify because you played 101 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: so well those first two rounds. 102 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, after those first two rounds, obviously, expectations are way 103 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 3: lower the first two That the first two rounds. 104 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: And you just went out there and play, and I 105 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 4: play amazing. 106 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: And then obviously the next two days you you you 107 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 3: know that you can win the tournament and you want 108 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 3: to win it. So yeah, I think I think expectations 109 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: are a little bit higher on the weekend. But I 110 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: also were pretty good to manage my game, especially on Saturday. 111 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: I think Saturday was a really important day to yet 112 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: prepare for Sunday. And yeah, I mean also it helps 113 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 3: a lot being we stayed in the house with with 114 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: all my friends also, and that helped me a lot 115 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 3: to kind of get distracted on what was going on 116 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: on the golf course. 117 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so walking, we've heard, uh, you travel around, you 118 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: gotta you gotta tight crew, you gott you travel with. 119 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: What are some fun things you do to decompress when 120 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 2: you're traveling playing tournaments? 121 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, remember, well it always changed. It used to be 122 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: a lot of gaming before. We remember with Carlos and 123 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: Sebastian Munos, we stayed the three of us together, and 124 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,559 Speaker 3: at that time, we're playing a lot of Call of Duty, 125 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 3: and I remember we we always tried to go up early, 126 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 3: do our practice early, play early, trying to do everything early. 127 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: That way we can come back to the house and 128 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: do videogames. 129 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: I gotta go to work for a little bit and 130 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 1: have some fun. 131 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, then, yeah, that was that was a lot 132 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: of fun. And I the other day we were talking 133 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 3: about it, and I remember the sometimes that playing video 134 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 3: against it helped me a lot to kind of like 135 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 3: forget about it what was going on the golf course. 136 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 4: And I remember Greenbrier when I won. 137 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 3: I on Sunday, my team I was like at three 138 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: pm something like that. I wake up like at seven 139 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: in the morning, and all my friends at that time 140 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: were into Fortnite, and I was like, wake up, I 141 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: already have a coffee, I have breakfast, and like, I mean, 142 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: I got like six hours. 143 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 4: To warm up. Hey, guys, you want to play Fortnite? 144 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: Start playing for for like three four hours before my tea, 145 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: and I kind of like forgot about everything, you know, 146 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: So it was pretty cool. 147 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: Gaming can get the mind away from the golf course. 148 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: Really important question here, how long did it take you 149 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: living in the United States where you stopped getting annoyed 150 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: that Americans called it chili? 151 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 4: What do you say Chile? 152 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: You know, Americans say Chili, they don't say Chile. How 153 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: long did it take you to realize that's the way 154 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: Americans pronounce it? 155 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean between that and my name, it just 156 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 4: I think it's too much more for this. 157 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: Our accents don't work great. 158 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 4: But it's fine. 159 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta kind of like learn instead of Wuago 160 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: with Jay. I gotta say, like try to say Wuago 161 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: with like a way, and they kind of started getting it. Then, Yeah, 162 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: they think I'm from Chile and they started talking about 163 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: the chili, the. 164 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 4: Spicy eat right. 165 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 166 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, actually don't have much spicy like Mexicans do, but yeah. 167 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: What can you tell us about just your start with Ping, 168 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: like the first clubs you got, just what that journey 169 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: looked like. When did you start playing golf? 170 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I started playing probably when I was three two 171 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: years old. I was always walking in my house with 172 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: plastic clubs. Yeah, everywhere. I got pictures that I can 173 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: barely walk and I was with a plastic bag walking around. 174 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 3: And I think I remember on Christmas when I was 175 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, probably like eight seven years old, I 176 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 3: got my first set of clubs and it was the 177 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 3: pink Moxie. 178 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys remember that one all 179 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 4: blue blue bag. 180 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: Yep. 181 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: It was the driver that it was like thirteen degrees 182 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: and I remember that after I got like a bigger 183 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 3: set than the Pink Moxy, I came that driver as 184 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: a three wood. Now I was using my other driver 185 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 3: and I had this Ping Maxi driver that was like 186 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 3: through thirteen degrees and I was hitting it like a 187 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: fair with would any It was my favorite club over 188 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 3: the back. 189 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: We interviewed Sahith in the same seat about a month ago, 190 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: and we were talking about him getting into Ping early. 191 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: And then you get to that point where you're signing 192 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: a contract with Ping, How weird was that day? How 193 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: cool was that day? When you think back to your 194 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: junior set and you've got a thirteen degree driver and 195 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: you're putting that in play as you're twelve, thirteen, fourteen 196 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: years old, and then you get to professional golf and 197 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're a ping athlete. How was 198 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: that experience for you and how was that moment? 199 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 200 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 3: For me, since I was ten twelve, since I was 201 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: really into golf, I've always been a big fan of ping. 202 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 3: I remember in Chile they had a lot of professional 203 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: tournaments and there was this few couple of guys where 204 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: they have their ping bag. They're white and black, and 205 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 3: I always look at it and I always dream of 206 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 3: having a tour bag, you know, putting your clubs there, 207 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: a clean towel. You know, you just feel like a pro. 208 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: And I remember when I was I think I was fifteen, 209 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: and I got in contact in contact with being and 210 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: I was who helped me out. He was a Scott Sullivan, 211 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: So I remember it was a little bit of a 212 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: pain in the ass because I was all the way 213 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: in Chile and sometimes I would ask them for clubs 214 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: because I was not able to go to the us 215 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: for a while, and they sent me the clubs they 216 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: were sitting in Atuana for a couple of months, and I, oh, 217 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 3: it was it was a lot of work to get 218 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: clubs from from here to to Chile. And then yeah, 219 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 3: and then when I turned pro, I always knew that 220 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: I I was going to be a Pink player. 221 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 4: I always been. 222 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 3: I always used their clubs since I was fifty fourteen 223 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 3: clubs I always been PIN. So yeah, everything came up 224 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: pretty easy. I used to the driver. I mean, we 225 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 3: always talk about it, how different the drivers look from 226 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: each other, from different brands. And since I start using PIN, 227 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 3: I every time I put another driver on the ground. 228 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 3: It's not like I do it every time and I 229 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: never do it, but but you see them and it's like, 230 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 3: I mean, you get so used to the face, to 231 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: the look of it, and obviously more than the fitting, 232 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 3: how it feels. Once you put the driver on the ground, 233 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: you immediately know that this is your club. 234 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so walking, you play irons that help you launch 235 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: a little bit higher in the air. So tell us 236 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: about your kind of that journey choosing irons you play, 237 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: and then you do some interesting things on what I 238 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: think on the top end, of the bag into the 239 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 2: wedges you play are like our specialty wedg forty eight 240 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 2: degree as opposed to a pitching wedge. Right, what how 241 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: do you make that decision like between the pitching wedge 242 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: and you know, play. 243 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: Forty forty six because I'm currently in exactly in that dilemma. 244 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm very interesting wedge. Yeah, it's like or do you 245 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: play the game? Yeah? 246 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 3: So I never just like plate plad faces on the irons. 247 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: I always kind of like it a little bit bigger, 248 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: and the eyeblades for me are the perfect size. But 249 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: when I go to the wedges, obviously a wedge you 250 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: like to see a knife there, you know. And I 251 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 3: think the wedge is kind of like right there it 252 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 3: does it has a number you got you know, you 253 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: have number nine eight seven. 254 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 4: The wedge is still at the Greek c love. 255 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, right, you want to see that now. 256 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: I like having the wedg and I like to play 257 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: a lot between numbers from one hundred and fifty years down. 258 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: I like to hit a lot of in between clubs. 259 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: I like to take off a little bit. So the 260 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 3: wedge is just perfect for me to control the distance 261 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: a lot better. And yeah, obviously now we go for 262 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: the four iron. I remember last year for the playoffs, 263 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: I was with my coach and obviously for me, hitting 264 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 3: high and spinny is hard. I prefer way better to 265 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 3: hit it low and you know, with less spin. So 266 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 3: we got to some courses where I got two twenty 267 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 3: yards and I cannot stop it on the green because 268 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 3: my fore arm doesn't launch too high. And I was 269 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: with my coach and we were he was giving me 270 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 3: this idea of trying a five rescue. I was like, no, 271 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I you know, you don't want to go. 272 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: You don't want to take your forearm of the back. 273 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: Maybe a three, but not a four. I'm twenty four. 274 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: I don't need another head cover. 275 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 4: And then you don't know you can put the four 276 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 4: rescue were the four ron used to be? 277 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: What slot? So there's a lot of the important professional 278 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: golf problem. 279 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 3: And my coach was like all over me, no, you 280 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: gotta use it, like no, no, no, no, once I try, 281 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: like yeah, it's awesome. I and I also sometimes when 282 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: when we play a lot of Bermuda around the green, 283 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: so I like, I used to love hitting like seven 284 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 3: woods around the green and with the rescue now is 285 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: it's unbelievable. And I remember I put it for the 286 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 3: playoffs and and my coach was telling me, I'm telling you, 287 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 3: you're gonna you're gonna win a lot of strokes, and 288 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: every stroke you're gonna own me a certain out of 289 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 3: money that we paid that time. And we started the 290 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: B and W with that club, and I chip in 291 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: like two times with that club, with with the with 292 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 3: the with the fire rescue. 293 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: It's like Todd Hamilton. 294 00:14:59,200 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 4: Yes. 295 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: And then then I got to Tour Championship and I 296 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: always travel on number nine because you gotta hit a 297 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: really good for iron to hit the green and yeah, 298 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: and I think that week I hit the four rescue 299 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: every day and I think I was like one under 300 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: through the week and I missed a short part for 301 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: very or I couldn't been two under on that whole easily, Like, yeah, 302 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: this club is good. 303 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: Are you? Are you a tinkerer? I mean are you? 304 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: Are you someone that is always kind of tinkering with 305 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: their clubs? Are you someone that gets their set? 306 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 4: What I mean. 307 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: Tinkering mean you're changing a lot, You're wanting to adjust 308 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: maybe a grind, or you're replacing certain clubs in your bag. 309 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: Or are you pretty consistent with your bag week to week. 310 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I'm pretty consistent with my bag. I think 311 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 3: I had the same stuff for Friday since I start, 312 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: since I start my. 313 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 4: Professional career, I don't change much. I think. 314 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 3: When I start changing too much, I kind of like 315 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: start blaming a little bit of club and I want 316 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: something yeah, and yeah, I mean I always I'm really 317 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 3: like a few player and I and when I know 318 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 3: the club is doing what I like, I just keep 319 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: it on the back. And then if it's not doing 320 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: what I was supposed to do, I know, I gotta 321 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: I gotta change something on the swing or you gotta 322 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 3: start feeling something different. 323 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 4: And and I'm a little bit more that way. 324 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: Maybe if I I think the most, the club that 325 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: I have changed the most is maybe the sixty when 326 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: I messed up a little bit with the lie with 327 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: leading edge, depending on the course, the bankers, how much 328 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: sunder is on it. And yeah, and then the other 329 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: thing that I changed once since I turned pro it 330 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: was my driver. 331 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 4: Uh, now I have it a little bit more, a 332 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 4: little longer. 333 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: It's almost forty six, not quite, but yeah, almost forty six. 334 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: And I gain a lot of the distance from there. 335 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: And also it feels better for me. And also I 336 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: hit a little straighted too. 337 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: San, there's some there's some awesome lass is in this 338 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: for the everyday golfer, Like what you're you're the rescue 339 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: you play the hybrid you play is a five high right, 340 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: so he's got five iron say it? 341 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, yeah, five. 342 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: But that's such an important lesson I think, you know, 343 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 2: because if you play our Eyeblades or our Blueprints I 344 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: Series I two thirties, we have a lot of players 345 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: that that the gapping those hybrids are meant to gap 346 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 2: with our g right irons that go really far right. 347 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: So you can play like the five hybrid and a 348 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: five iron and the gaping will be good. You're probably 349 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: hitting that like twenty percent higher in. 350 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 3: The air, yeah, way before, and it's like a pitch 351 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: in which yeah twenty five. 352 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, So some weeks you'll swap that out for form. Yeah. 353 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 3: I think I think this week and the US Open, 354 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 3: I might put the four iron because there's gonna be 355 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 3: a little bit of wind there and kind of like 356 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 3: mixing the yard and the numbers so. 357 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: The par threes are a mile long. 358 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, we. 359 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: Were joking what is it is Evans. The lengthy one 360 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: is that? Is that right? Sevens to nineties or two 361 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 1: eighty six, but you know eleven is longer, but it's 362 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: a little bit more downhill and into the win on seven. 363 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see the big head covers come 364 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: off for certain players. 365 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 4: Oh definitely. 366 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 3: I mean just I play with Midi and Mido hit 367 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: a beautiful three when he didn't hit degree, I mean 368 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 3: it was just short. 369 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, this is a far three. You mentioned 370 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: being twenty four, and I wanted to ask you this 371 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: because golf is getting younger by the minute, and as 372 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: a twenty four year old, do you still feel like 373 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: one of the young guys or are you starting to 374 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: feel more like a veteran of professional golf considering every 375 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: year two or three or four, you know, college graduates 376 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: or amateur players are popping up and not just being 377 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: on tour, but contending on tour. 378 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny. 379 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I obviously I'm still twenty four, but I 380 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: all of these guys that are coming out now, I 381 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: mean I feel that it'd be here for a while, 382 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: and I feel long a long time. If I look 383 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 3: back and I remember since I started. It does feel 384 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: like a lot of years. But yeah, I mean, obviously 385 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 3: I still feel like I'm I'm o kaid I'm in 386 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 3: just twenty four I yeah, yeah, I mean doesn't feel 387 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 3: much difference. 388 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: Well, Kaya, I want to go back to that driver 389 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: forty six inches or close to forty six. Now, what 390 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: what did you play before that? And how did you 391 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: kind of experiment with that? 392 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: And what's the loft on the forty six? 393 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 394 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 3: So they had the four thirty with the LST. It's 395 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: tend pointing five degrees around there, and I remember I 396 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 3: had the standard shot. It was probably forty I think 397 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 3: it's forty five quarter probably, yeah, yeah, yeah. I started 398 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 3: messing with it, I think the week before the Presidents 399 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 3: cut in twenty twenty nineteen. 400 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 2: Yea. 401 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 4: And what I did, I. 402 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 3: We tipped the bottom of the chef a little bit, 403 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: a little bit more one inch more thing it was, 404 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: and then I left it a little bit longer, and 405 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 3: I went from a D to rate D, from the 406 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 3: D seven to. 407 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 4: The D six six. 408 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, so a little bit of I mean it was 409 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 3: a little lighter, but a little bit longer. So yeah, 410 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 3: I mean since since that year, I tried it for 411 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: the first time at the President's cab any and he 412 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 3: worked great. I mean I still hit a high a 413 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 3: little bit higher. I can hit it low also, which 414 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: is easier for me. So yeah, I can can wear 415 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 3: around both ways. I mean, my driver is one of 416 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 3: my favorite claps of the bag. 417 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: So you saw an increase in ball speed with that, yeah, yeah, 418 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 2: and clap speed was probably like three three four miles more. 419 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 2: There is such an important lesson Shane to be able 420 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: to experiment with longer length. And then we even have 421 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: some calculations on this for the every day golfer that 422 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: you know. I think for every three yards you gain 423 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: in distance, you can live with one more yard of offline, 424 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: right if you if you're if you're on the tour 425 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: level player. So it's it's fun to see not every 426 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: PGA tour player, uh and player on the on the 427 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: big tours, playing in the majors is playing a four 428 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 2: four and a half inch driver, right, you know, and 429 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: you're you're seeing more distance there, but we're still able 430 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: to keep the control. 431 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 432 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: Obviously with your mechanics, you're you're you have a lot 433 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: of handling and a dress and so that's why you're 434 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 2: playing the ten point five right. 435 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, always been a higher love driver. 436 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: I'd like to to see the face a little bit 437 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 3: more open, because I mean, I say, for me, it's 438 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: really easy to go down on it and. 439 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, hit it low as low as I can. 440 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: More natural for you to hit it load than Meah, 441 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: try to get it up in the air. 442 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 3: And then and then with this obviously, with this head 443 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 3: and a little bit longer chef is way easier for me. 444 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: I can step a little bit behind the ball and 445 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: just send it along chair. 446 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, nice, I heard you're a car guy, big time, gark. 447 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: What's the garage like right now? Can you just walk 448 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: us through the walking name and gral. 449 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm a big fan of cars. I love 450 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 3: I love to read the look of them, I like 451 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,719 Speaker 3: to drive them. I mean, right now, I just put 452 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 3: my last car and it was a well last car 453 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: for now, because I know I'm gonna be kind of 454 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 3: mixed it up of course right now. The last carboy 455 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 3: was a GT three and I love it. His man 456 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 3: on and so much fun to drive. And also the 457 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: week after Washington, we went to Austin with Sergio and 458 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 3: we rented the race drug in Austin, the one that 459 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 3: the race for Formula one and I took my my McLaren. 460 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 3: We took it there and we were driving on the 461 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: track and he was one of the happiest day of 462 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 3: my life. 463 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: Did you was it hard to get you out of 464 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: there where you're like, no, we can still. 465 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we're right like at eight in the 466 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 4: morning and we left like a five. 467 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 3: Really it was all They had to put gas on 468 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 3: the car for like two times. 469 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: Do you do you have like rules about buying cars 470 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: where Okay, if I win again, I can buy a 471 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: car if I do certain things or is it just 472 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: kind of when you're feeling itchy Instagram you go, you know. 473 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 3: What, No, no, no, I like to I like to 474 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: to give myself when I do something right, Like obviously 475 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 3: I remember I was. I mean I was looking at 476 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: car for a while, the McLaren, and I was like, yeah, 477 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 3: I need to I need to play better to to 478 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 3: kind of like give it to myself, right Yeah, And 479 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: I I told Carlos, my agent, okay, uh, I want 480 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: to buy this car. 481 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 4: Okay. 482 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: I was playing Hawaii the week after the next few 483 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 3: weeks and obviously give me some extra motivation to play better. 484 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 3: And after I finished second on the two weeks in Hawaii. 485 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,239 Speaker 3: Obviously I was based because I didn't win, but I 486 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: told Carlos, like, I really want this car. 487 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 4: Can we do something? Yeah? I think you deserve it. 488 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 4: That's final. Yeah, do it all right? Thank you? I 489 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 4: went and start string. 490 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: That's good negotiation. 491 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 3: Yeah. It's not like I'm gonna by this card. All right, 492 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: thank you? No, I got I would like to put 493 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 3: some rules on myself. And also if I mean, if 494 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 3: I had a bad attitude on the golf course or 495 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 3: I don't like to give myself. 496 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: I've heard you have a simulator. Actually, so what's it is? 497 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: This is this in the house in the house, So 498 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: what's it like? Uh, you know, driving on the simulator 499 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: then going on the track, and how does that compare 500 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: to I don't know if if you ever played simulator 501 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 2: golf or hitting doors, how does it compare to the 502 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: golf side. 503 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's actually pretty I mean I would said that 504 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 3: it helps me a lot to to be a little 505 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 3: better on on the on the racetrack with a regular car. 506 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 3: I mean I spent a lot of time on the 507 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 3: on the simulator and it is a lot of fun. 508 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 3: I I actually both the same simulator as uh Sergio 509 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: and Carlos did, so we we kind of like play 510 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 3: online into each other. 511 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 4: And I I mean it's awesome. 512 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: You can raise Formula one to like a normal like 513 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: a g D three or like McLaren. I mean, you 514 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 3: can raise the same cars that I mean, any type 515 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 3: of car you can in my in and and it 516 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 3: changed all the vibrations on the steering wheel, the breaking, 517 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 3: the acceleration, so it is a lot of fun. And 518 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: also you can kind of like learn the learn the 519 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 3: truck also, like I race on online on the Austin 520 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: racetrack and you can kind of have an idea of 521 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 3: the breaking points and the turns and. 522 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: The full on scouting one. 523 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, very impressed, and it's and it's awesome. 524 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 3: I mean you can and then when you really get 525 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 3: there to the racetrack, I mean obviously now you got 526 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 3: your I mean now, I mean now it's between that 527 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 3: and I mean you can dive you messed up. So 528 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 3: it's not like on the similarity where you can break 529 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: right there. Here is like I think I'm gonna break 530 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: a little bit there. 531 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get as much leeway 532 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,239 Speaker 1: do you do any online scouting for golf courses? I mean, 533 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: do you ever do like look at videos before like 534 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: a major Champions of course that you played or I 535 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: haven't seen it all. 536 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 3: So for this course, I was trying to find out 537 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 3: golf tournament, but there there were none tournaments before, and 538 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 3: the USDA had had a video like a flyover, and yeah, 539 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 3: like I like to do that kind of like have 540 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 3: an idea of what the course is doing. And I 541 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 3: also once I played the tournament, I kind of have 542 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 3: a better idea where where the fairway is going, what 543 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 3: the greens is doing. And I like also to visualized 544 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 3: a little bit my shots, so that like seeing the 545 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: flyovers or past tournaments, it can it can really help. 546 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: You a little bit like the track where you kind 547 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: of have an idea of what it's going to look like. 548 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, walking in, let's talk about punning a little bit. 549 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: You're using a pod answer. What is your journey been 550 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: on putters through your career? You know, from a junior 551 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: till now? 552 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I change a little bit. 553 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 3: I remember, I mean I always have the same same 554 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 3: answer to I need to have the answer to when 555 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 3: I came out and I remember I had a thirty 556 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 3: four inches shaft thirty three maybe, and I started working 557 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 3: with Stan Ali during my first two years and I 558 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 3: went a little bit longer shaft I think to thirty 559 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 3: six and yeah, I mean it's always nice to have 560 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 3: options and people that can't help you out here on 561 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 3: the track to to obviously, I mean the more you try, 562 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 3: you can have a better idea of what were the 563 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: difference of the club, the shaft, what they do, how 564 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: they feel. And yeah, with the pottery, I went from 565 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 3: thirty six inches and then we build a pod because 566 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 3: I didn't lie the I don't know how you the 567 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 3: regular line the long line that it has on the 568 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: on the bottom, because I like to part with the 569 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 3: with the line on the ball, so sometimes that line 570 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 3: with the line of the pottery was kind of like not. 571 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 4: On the same line for me from my eyes. 572 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: And we build with Tony pod an answer to with 573 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 3: the line on top like a really short line, yeah 574 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 3: around the top round and that is I mean that's 575 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 3: been my gamer for or I mean probably three three 576 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 3: years almost. Are you still using that long I went 577 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 3: back to thirty thirty five I think it is right now, 578 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 3: but yeah, it's the same club face, the same pattern 579 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 3: face for for a while and I and. 580 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: I really love it. I we messed a lot with 581 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 4: the also with the with the face of the Potter. 582 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 3: We had like no, like super firm how you call it, 583 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 3: when it's just smooth, yeah, smooth melling. 584 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 4: And then we go to semi deep million and then 585 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 4: super deep. 586 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 3: We kind of like try everything, and I mean and 587 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 3: I and for me that's the softer it comes off 588 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 3: the face. For me, like I have a better feeling 589 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: of what the boy is gonna do and the spirit 590 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 3: of the Potter, Yeah, distant control. So yeah, and that's 591 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 3: been Mike Potter. Sometimes he behaves really good. Sometimes it 592 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 3: doesn't behave really good, but he's. 593 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 1: Get in trouble if it's just put it away from 594 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: the bag, like what's the what's the. 595 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 4: He is my baby. 596 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: Okay, you're nice to it. 597 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 4: I always try to talk nice to it. 598 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: I know. 599 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: I yeah, he never had a hard time. He he 600 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 3: goes on the back nicely. He yeah, you got to 601 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 3: use it on every whole the right. He knows I'm 602 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 3: gonna be with him, par I mean sometimes probably a 603 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 3: good idea to have another one there that way he 604 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 3: feels Jealousyah, sure, but yeah, I'm not like that. 605 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: We'll get you out on this. What's your favorite thing 606 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: about living in the US and what's the number one 607 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: thing you miss about home? 608 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 4: H number one? 609 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 3: Living in I mean I live in Palm Beach right now, 610 00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 3: And for me, I picked up place because obviously, I 611 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 3: think is where I can be a better player. I 612 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 3: can focus more on my game, on my day to 613 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 3: day routines, and yeah, I think it's where I can 614 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 3: be a better golfer. And what I miss of Chile 615 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 3: obviously are are I mean my friends, my own family 616 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 3: lives in Chile, So that's kind of tough a little 617 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 3: bit sometimes, but obviously it is what I decide to be. 618 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 4: And sometimes it's hard to be away from home for 619 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 4: so long. 620 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 3: I mean I just go back for early at December 621 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 3: for a couple probably one month for New Year and Christmas. 622 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: But but yeah, I mean they understand that this is 623 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 3: what I love and this is what I yeah, this 624 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 3: is what I love to do, and they understand pretty good. 625 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: When you go home. What is the reception like when 626 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: the plane lands and you get off the plane. Is 627 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: it a celebration, are there people there? Or is it 628 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: pretty calm and cool and collected and you just got 629 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: to go home and just plend it. 630 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it's getting every time a little bit 631 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: more busy. Obviously, whenever I go back, I always try 632 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 3: to do something on the golf course where they can 633 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 3: watch me play, because there is a lot of people 634 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 3: dally they cannot travel to the US, which is way 635 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 3: too far for them expensive and being able to play 636 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 3: in Chile, have all the people there enjoy a golf 637 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 3: around in a golf tournament that I can play there 638 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 3: in Chile, And it's also something that I really love 639 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 3: to go and play in Chile. I mean, probably right 640 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 3: now is probably too much people, and it's hard for 641 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 3: me to focus on playing golf there because it's so 642 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 3: much going on. But I mean, there is nothing for 643 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 3: me better than going back there playing with my friends, 644 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 3: play a little game, play different courses that we used 645 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 3: to play in Chile when I was sixteen seventeen. 646 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 4: Like those memories for me are never going to I'm 647 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 4: never gonna forgot those. 648 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 2: You mean, who hits it further off the tea? 649 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 4: Oh have you seen his size? 650 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: I think the face do you see hits his face? 651 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 4: Hat off? 652 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: He didn't have to answer. 653 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 4: He's a Bill different to be. 654 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: He's not what I mean, if you get him, do 655 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: you tell him that? 656 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: I mean sometimes I can, yeah, I can hit it 657 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: past him, but most of the time he's past me. 658 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: I mean sometimes he's he's not trying to hit it 659 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 3: too hard and I'm trying to give you everything. 660 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 4: So I think those times when. 661 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: I'm like six degrees. 662 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 3: But if we go there Midia and I told me 663 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 3: that hid as hard as you can, and I try 664 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 3: to hit as hard as I can, hear he will 665 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 3: get me. 666 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: What is a week to week I'm gonna eat at 667 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: this place every week on the road. What's your place 668 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: on the road. 669 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 4: Oh, it is hard decision right now. 670 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 3: I think my first couple of years he used to 671 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 3: be Chipotle, I was, I go to plays and I 672 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 3: feel like that's. 673 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: The I feel like that's the PG eight Tour answer. 674 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 4: But I mean I do think the same. 675 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: Are you Are you not doing anymore? 676 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 4: You not anymore? Let a little tired of that? 677 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, so you're you're you're kind of in between 678 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,479 Speaker 1: spots right now. 679 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean with lately we're renting houses and 680 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 3: we had a chair for all of us, so he's yeah, 681 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 3: I love it. 682 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna do it out this week? 683 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, on Sunday Sunday. 684 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: If let's say, let's say you win the US Open, 685 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: still in and out on Sunday and out on Sunday. 686 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the way you should celebrate a US 687 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: Open winner. 688 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 3: I al would like to have a burger on Sundays. 689 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I like files, but on Sunday. 690 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like walking, Now, you're you're an avocado guy, right, 691 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 2: so how do you actually eat it on the golf course? 692 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 4: Like, how do you do? 693 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: This is an encorese snack? 694 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 2: You know? 695 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 3: No, no, I just if I wait too much to 696 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 3: the aloco is not gonna look good. So I'll keep 697 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 3: it for my breakfast or after the round. 698 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 4: But yeah, I love it. And Chili is a big thing. 699 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 3: You eat a lot of smash avocado on a toast, 700 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 3: and that's the one thing I do when I arrive 701 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 3: in to Chili. 702 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 4: It's a different type of thread Tuesday. That way. It 703 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 4: tastes so good. 704 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: Well, walking, really appreciate it. I'm good luck this week 705 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: and look the rest of the year and we'll chat 706 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: with you soon. Keep trying to hit it past me 707 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: to Okay. 708 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 4: There you go, that's right there. 709 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 2: You go. 710 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: And this is the Thinking Browns podcast.