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Speaker 1: He is a Saturday Night Live legend, still the coolest
Speaker 1: late night talk show host, and a New York Times
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Speaker 1: I did not know you were Thomas. Okay, do you
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Speaker 2: You ready?
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Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah. My parents were on some next next when when
Speaker 1: I was born Khalib Khaleb Thompson Yes, wow, which made
Speaker 1: me all the more just wanting to have a question
Speaker 1: mark for my name.
Speaker 2: All my life. That's the exactly. But we went through
Speaker 2: your names once before, like you've had was it always brother,
Speaker 2: brother quest?
Speaker 1: All right? So when we first when the group first started.
Speaker 1: I was, oh god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to dude, that's we all came for somewhere.
Speaker 1: I don't want to miss all right, Okay, so oh man,
Speaker 1: just say it, dude.
Speaker 2: Man, it kills me. This is like therapy when you
Speaker 2: first first my first name.
Speaker 1: Was deaf dough money. I want to do something that
Speaker 1: I normally don't. I never I never do like rapid
Speaker 1: fire questions on this show. Like it's always like, you know,
Speaker 1: the conversation yeah, like, oh so you were born in Yes,
Speaker 1: I know you're born in I'm pretty sure that everyone
Speaker 1: pretty much knows your backstory. So this is a question.
Speaker 1: I always wanted to start with. What did you have
Speaker 1: for breakfast this morning?
Speaker 2: I had U pancakes you have in syrup you cook
Speaker 2: them more, you know, I had. I had a meeting
Speaker 2: this morning. What time do you wake up? Man? I
Speaker 2: don't want to wake up, but the kids wake me up.
Speaker 2: They it's insane right now. I have a six year
Speaker 2: old and the four and a half year old, and
Speaker 2: they get in bed around probably four in the morning.
Speaker 2: Usually wait what I know, and I'm just like, dude,
Speaker 2: I gotta sleep, but we show biz kids. My wife
Speaker 2: is like, no, no, they go to sleep at like
Speaker 2: seven or at night, but in their room. But then
Speaker 2: at four in the morning, they walk into our bedroom
Speaker 2: and come into bed with me and my wife and
Speaker 2: just want to sleep in the bed with us. And
Speaker 2: I was like, we got to just tell them no,
Speaker 2: and they got to go back to the room. My
Speaker 2: wife's like, they won't do it forever. There's no you know,
Speaker 2: thirty year old kids sleep with their parents. She's eventually
Speaker 2: they figure it out. She goes, one day we'll be
Speaker 2: wanting our kids to come in and send it laying.
Speaker 2: So anyways, so they come in around four, I try
Speaker 2: to I toss and turn till about probably seven, and
Speaker 2: then we wake up around six thirty seven.
Speaker 1: When he's not out of school age now she in
Speaker 1: first grade.
Speaker 2: She's in first grade, and she still wants to get
Speaker 2: up at six in the morning. Oh yeah, they got
Speaker 2: up at six in the morning. They play for they're
Speaker 2: excited and they love it. They play for an hour
Speaker 2: like all their toys, and then we brush our teeth
Speaker 2: and that we have breakfast. We usually make them breakfast,
Speaker 2: but I didn't eat with them because I had to.
Speaker 2: But normally what I would do is you know what
Speaker 2: I've been doing is the gross apple cider, vinegar, lemon,
Speaker 2: hot water. I love that now you do, and I'm
Speaker 2: used to it. I'm still not used to it. It's
Speaker 2: disguis's honestly painful for me, really to drink vinegar every morning.
Speaker 2: It sounds like torture. Why did we do that to
Speaker 2: each other?
Speaker 1: Or do you put a little bit of honey in it? Yes,
Speaker 1: and it's still hard.
Speaker 2: It's getting better a little bit for me, but I
Speaker 2: think I was maybe I was putting too much vinegar
Speaker 2: in mine. Oh okay, I was just drinking like hot vinegar.
Speaker 2: It was pretty gross. But you do it every day.
Speaker 1: I look forward to it.
Speaker 2: You do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I put Kian pepper.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do that never now and then I throw
Speaker 2: that in there. But anyways, so that's normally I would
Speaker 2: not have breakfast. I would just have that, but I
Speaker 2: had a meeting about the show today, so I had
Speaker 2: to go order something to just be rude.
Speaker 1: So your morning routine usually starts at seven, yeah, and
Speaker 1: then because the thing is is that sometimes I'll say
Speaker 1: most of the time, unless we're talking about a sketch
Speaker 1: or some sort of whatever, the format of what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do later, I never see you, so I never
Speaker 1: know what your morning routine is from nine from eight
Speaker 1: in the morning till three or two. Yeah, because usually
Speaker 1: I'll say that I used to probably up until like
Speaker 1: a year and a half ago, I used to go
Speaker 1: to bed at five and then wake up at nine.
Speaker 1: But now I'm on a whole new regular schedule. Like
Speaker 1: this is the most regular I've ever been in. You know,
Speaker 1: my my girl won't allow me to. She wants it
Speaker 1: lights out at eleven o'clock and no Soul train on
Speaker 1: loop either, Like, wow, I watch soul train.
Speaker 2: Yeah, usually when I walk in, you got, she asked me?
Speaker 1: She has me all like maybe I'll say, like I
Speaker 1: could probably do three episodes a week a week, that's it.
Speaker 1: I used to do three hundred a day. Gosh, like
Speaker 1: she used to be my jukebox or that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: So I go to bed as soon as I can.
Speaker 2: I go. I'm one of those people now I go
Speaker 2: out to dinner. If I go out to dinner with Nancy,
Speaker 2: we go out at like I'm there at five o'clock.
Speaker 1: So you like, I can't wait to go to sleep.
Speaker 2: I love sleep, I.
Speaker 1: Started I hate I mean, I'm afraid that sleep is
Speaker 1: I feel like me is saying like, oh man, I
Speaker 1: can't wait to go to bed?
Speaker 2: Is last of time?
Speaker 1: Well, no, I just feel like it's it's me admitting
Speaker 1: that I'm getting up there. Like I used to be
Speaker 1: proud to like five days in a row.
Speaker 2: I've been out. No, dude, we had Remember Grace Joneses
Speaker 2: came on the show and she goes, I go, uh,
Speaker 2: She goes, what are you doing tonight? I go, this
Speaker 2: is it? I mean, I'm going home. I'm probably just
Speaker 2: gonna eat something to go to bed. She's like, oh man,
Speaker 2: I go, You're not doing that. She's like, no, I
Speaker 2: gotta I got a show tonight. And then after the
Speaker 2: show we're going to there's something some club. I go,
Speaker 2: you still got the clubs? She's like, yeah, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I go.
Speaker 2: What time do you get home. It's like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: four or five. She's like, I don't know what's wrong
Speaker 2: with this generation. No go to bed too early. I'm like,
Speaker 2: Grace Jones still just stays out the five in the morning.
Speaker 2: I go, oh my god, I wouldn't even know what
Speaker 2: to do. I would have no clue.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'm just I love sleep now and I
Speaker 1: hate to admit that I.
Speaker 2: Love It's the greatest thing. That's the one thing you
Speaker 2: can get me for my birthday, for Christmas or anything
Speaker 2: I can can get sleep. Oh I would love sleep, man,
Speaker 2: that would you gotta?
Speaker 1: You know, there's coupon. One time I thought Tarik was joking,
Speaker 1: but he had these coupons made for like an uninterrupted No,
Speaker 1: Tarik fixed this, or Dad, I need help with that,
Speaker 1: Like that was his birthday gift.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, I did that with my parents
Speaker 2: when I was a kid. I made them coupons. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, so they can leave you alone, or
Speaker 2: so I could leave them alone or help them out,
Speaker 2: Like you use this coupon whenever you want me to go, Like, I'll,
Speaker 2: you know, watch the car, I'll do whatever. I'll instead
Speaker 2: of just regularly regularly regula chores. Yeah, exactly like that.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So you of course mentioned your your dad's affinity and
Speaker 1: love for do wop music.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I grew up with it, loved it.
Speaker 1: What's the first single do you remember purchasing?
Speaker 2: Oh man, non doop or just in general? Verse forty five?
Speaker 1: So like his record collection was your record collection?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So what was your favorite of his
Speaker 1: of his record collection.
Speaker 2: You're trying to learn harmony to the song called Zoom
Speaker 2: because like zoom zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoomzoom,
Speaker 2: zoom zoom zoom zoom.
Speaker 1: The same format. I've never heard this song in my life,
Speaker 1: but I knew it, so I.
Speaker 2: Was trying to. So he would try to teach me
Speaker 2: and my sister to sing Zoom so we could like
Speaker 2: harmonize and be like, you know, I don't know the
Speaker 2: Osmonds or whatever some towns. No, I was Marie, but
Speaker 2: I was. It's like so my sister immediately was like,
Speaker 2: I'm out. I don't even I don't get harmony. I
Speaker 2: don't like this. I'm out of the out of the group.
Speaker 2: But me and my dad were even rebel. I mean yeah,
Speaker 2: Gloria was the rep. So me and my dad could
Speaker 2: sing zoom pretty well. Uh. And so that was just
Speaker 2: I would just start learning all these harmonies and then
Speaker 2: getting in the trick your harmonies and trying to like,
Speaker 2: I mean, I just loved it.
Speaker 1: I just so would he would he go to all
Speaker 1: those like Dick Fox productions of like at Westbury Music
Speaker 1: Forear do wop Yeah.
Speaker 2: Kind of yeah. We I grew up in Sagerty's, New York,
Speaker 2: which is upstate by Kingston, p Keepsie, Woodstock, that area.
Speaker 2: So there was a place called Ulster Performing Arts Center,
Speaker 2: you pack, and they would have oldie shows there, and
Speaker 2: so I would go to see. My first concert concert
Speaker 2: was Weird Al Yankovic. But my first kind of venture
Speaker 2: into concert was with the whole family. We went to
Speaker 2: a do up show and I saw like, oh gosh,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Chances are it was a Dick Fox production.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Larry Chance and the Earls were there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, member Rember.
Speaker 2: I saw Joey D and the Starlights star Lighters they
Speaker 2: got another dancing the dance the peppermn.
Speaker 1: Side note all right, So not many people know that
Speaker 1: Hendricks used to play in Joey D and the star Lighters.
Speaker 1: What yeah, Hendricks. Joey always tells that story, like when
Speaker 1: when I see him. Joey D had a son that
Speaker 1: was in the star Lighters was my age, and so
Speaker 1: at one point in nineteen eighty five, my dad had
Speaker 1: this idea like, Okay, we're gonna get Joey D's son,
Speaker 1: Gary us Bond's daughter. But my maddle name is Middle's sister,
Speaker 1: right right, his two nieces, my sister and I. It
Speaker 1: was like a eight It was like an eight eight
Speaker 1: kid group of all duop legends, and they wanted to
Speaker 1: call it UBI the next Generation. Oh like Redo Duop
Speaker 1: called UBI. I don't know if we were redoing duop,
Speaker 1: but it was just a thing like, let's put a
Speaker 1: supergroup together of all like the legends. We did one
Speaker 1: session at the studio that's now that used to be
Speaker 1: Sony on fifty fourth and eleventh Avenue. So somewhere in
Speaker 1: their files in nineteen eighty six there's like a four
Speaker 1: song oldies do op demo from the Legends of Douop.
Speaker 1: I think that was like my first studio session ever.
Speaker 2: No way, yeah, was it a cappella? Was a duop?
Speaker 2: Or is it? No? We played like I drummed and
Speaker 2: see I could see that working. But that's because I
Speaker 2: think I grew up brainwashed that duop was the only.
Speaker 1: Music I thought, right right.
Speaker 2: My parents tricked me as well, because well, my dad
Speaker 2: was in Vietnam, so he was like he had these real,
Speaker 2: real tapes of him and his group on the ship
Speaker 2: singing duop. So I always thought that Vietnam everyone sang
Speaker 2: duop songs. And then I'm watching these movies. I watch
Speaker 2: Apocalypse Now or whatever, and no one's singing any duop
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm here like the doors, and right,
Speaker 2: did I go? What is this music? I know for
Speaker 2: a fact people sang do op until she turns out.
Speaker 2: My dad was just like a nerd to me.
Speaker 1: No, we got tricked, man, we got trick right, because
Speaker 1: in my first grade class, my first homework assignment was
Speaker 1: bring in in your favorite forty five. The next day
Speaker 1: everyone came in with contemporary stuff and he gives I
Speaker 1: just want to be everything disco duck yeah, rick D's
Speaker 1: all that stuff. And I came in with why do
Speaker 1: Fools fall in Love?
Speaker 2: What fools?
Speaker 1: And my teachers were like, oh, this is from my era,
Speaker 1: and none of the kids knew my record. And wait
Speaker 1: a second, right, my teacher explained, like, well, a mere
Speaker 1: like when I was your age, this is what I
Speaker 1: listened to.
Speaker 2: And I'm looking like, how come this isn't resident if
Speaker 2: you guys this happened to me? But such later in life,
Speaker 2: I was like, I was actually in high school or
Speaker 2: college people do that now.
Speaker 1: I remember at one point, uh Comal decided that he
Speaker 1: was going to make his kids think that Michael Jackson's
Speaker 1: Off the Wall was a brand new album. So I
Speaker 1: know kids that do that now, like just put their
Speaker 1: kids in the time warp and don't listen. You know,
Speaker 1: there's nothing for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did it work for a little bit.
Speaker 1: Well, it's weird now because I'll say that of all
Speaker 1: the Roots kids, Kamal's kids are the weirdest. Yeah, his daughter. Now,
Speaker 1: as this taping, your Your Grateful Dead experience will be over.
Speaker 1: But Kamal's oldest daughter is and she I think she
Speaker 1: just turned twenty. She's like a total deadhead, like she
Speaker 1: knows American beauty. She went to college one year and
Speaker 1: then they just put her on to like the first
Speaker 1: four Grateful Dead records because she had all these quotes
Speaker 1: on her social media. I'm like, wait a minute, what
Speaker 1: do you know about Cherry Carsia?
Speaker 2: Dude. I think it's changed my life a little bit.
Speaker 2: I've never listened to him at all, and I'm really
Speaker 2: into it. I dig it, I get it all right,
Speaker 2: I totally get it.
Speaker 1: And then Kamal's son is straight up country what yo, No,
Speaker 1: I think your kids. Your kids are going to be
Speaker 1: the total opposite of what you are, which explains it
Speaker 1: because even Kirks Kirk's son is into like the hardest
Speaker 1: trap music of all time. Really, like when when certain
Speaker 1: acts come on the show and kirk Son doesn't show up,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, you didn't want to see Da Da
Speaker 1: Da Da Da. You'd be like, Nah, that's too commercial
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what, like like the underground stuff?
Speaker 1: He if it's if it's if it's too mainstream, he
Speaker 1: won't he won't mess with it.
Speaker 2: I just realized I gotta teach you when he had
Speaker 2: to dance because we went to this Halloween party and
Speaker 2: they're like first grader dance competition. Who wants to dance?
Speaker 2: And she goes, well, I have to go, dad, it's
Speaker 2: first dance competition. I'm like, do you really know how
Speaker 2: to dance? And dude, they played like everybody dance now,
Speaker 2: and she just stood there and kind of like walked
Speaker 2: back and forth. It's really stiff, and the dude next
Speaker 2: to her was like doing backspins and flips and like moonwalking,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my gosh, my kid does
Speaker 2: not know how to dance. I got a teacher.
Speaker 1: Your kids discover YouTube yet no, Yeah, it's like they
Speaker 1: got it. I mean YouTube's a slippery slope because you
Speaker 1: don't want them controlling, like what the search.
Speaker 2: I was watching one thing and I just said, hey,
Speaker 2: maybe no more YouTube because it was no It was
Speaker 2: like adults moving toys around and doing voices for dolls
Speaker 2: like that's it, dude. And they were obsessed with this show.
Speaker 2: And it's like it's the any parent out there knows
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. It is the creepiest thing ever.
Speaker 2: There's like a hand will hold like a paw patrol
Speaker 2: doll and be like, hey, what are you doing? Oh
Speaker 2: I'm and they play with dolls and the kids just
Speaker 2: watch it like like it's them playing with dolls and
Speaker 2: it's the It goes on for hours on a loop
Speaker 2: on YouTube and kids like it. Don't know how they
Speaker 2: found it, but they loved it. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: do we got take us? We gotta watch something with
Speaker 2: the beginning, middle, end, a plot, anything. You could watch anything,
Speaker 2: but not this.
Speaker 1: What's it called?
Speaker 2: I have no idea what it's called, but I almost
Speaker 2: want to soothe these people. It's like I don't like it.
Speaker 2: I don't want it in my house.
Speaker 1: Now, you just got to show a bunch of dance
Speaker 1: clips on you know, you.
Speaker 2: Read know how to play music for them, because it's
Speaker 2: just like Alexa or you know, or you know, show
Speaker 2: them soul training. I should.
Speaker 1: I gotta get put on trust me a good soul
Speaker 1: tiraying clip. They will emulate it. That's how everyone in
Speaker 1: America learns how to dance. That's it, Yes, that's how
Speaker 1: they learned. Hey, do you remember the first mixtape you
Speaker 1: ever made for someone?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has a big deal.
Speaker 1: How long did it take you to craft it?
Speaker 2: Oh? I mean plusing play record and pause and having
Speaker 2: the record startup. And it wasn't even a great mixtape.
Speaker 2: It was just my stuff, which is all weird stuff.
Speaker 2: And I would take it because I had this thing
Speaker 2: when I was a kid that I didn't and this
Speaker 2: is you could ask my sister. I wouldn't let anyone
Speaker 2: copy my music. Why because I thought it would affect
Speaker 2: the record industry. Wait what because I must have seen
Speaker 2: someone talk about it on TV or so. I said,
Speaker 2: you're going to ruin the record industry if you record
Speaker 2: a song, if you take my song, you have to
Speaker 2: buy the record. You can't just take the song off
Speaker 2: of by record. The eyebaught He's going to ruin the industry.
Speaker 2: And my sister was like, you're the worst, You're the
Speaker 2: weirdest kid. And so I would have to take my
Speaker 2: music to the party. I play my mixtape, then I
Speaker 2: take the tape home. I would just I would own
Speaker 2: my mixtapes.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't give it to no one, No, no, shut up, Bill,
Speaker 1: no boss. Bill's in the other room, like, yes, I
Speaker 1: agree with you.
Speaker 2: Right right, I would I. I wouldn't give it to anyone,
Speaker 2: not even my sister.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I was the opposite. I feel I
Speaker 1: am Spotify like the the The amount of work I
Speaker 1: don't have to do now in the age of streaming
Speaker 1: is mind boggling because back when you we had to
Speaker 1: make mixtapes and mix you have to listen to the
Speaker 1: whole song. I was the guy you had to come
Speaker 1: to to make whatever, Like I was the king of mixtape,
Speaker 1: make it. But you never made a mixtape for anyone.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I might have done like earlier, because
Speaker 2: I remember I used to listen to the radio all
Speaker 2: the time. I was like, I loved it. I had
Speaker 2: a boombox and I'm trying to think of the brand,
Speaker 2: the brand name of my boombox. I forget. I mean
Speaker 2: I remember it in my brain looking at it. Just
Speaker 2: to listen to this radio station, have play record and pause,
Speaker 2: just there, just in case a song came on the radio.
Speaker 2: Ghostbusters was my jam. I was like Ray Parker Junior, Ghostbusters.
Speaker 2: If I hear that, I would run over and like
Speaker 2: try to record it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh.
Speaker 2: And then like I remember listening to another like my
Speaker 2: dad would play radio and I would bring the boom
Speaker 2: box over to his speaker so I could record the
Speaker 2: song from his speaker onto my cassette player so I
Speaker 2: can tape it that way, like if there was like
Speaker 2: a special Beatles thing. I was really into the Beatles
Speaker 2: at one point, right, so I had those type of mixtapes.
Speaker 2: And then I remember listening to Doctor Demento. Do you
Speaker 2: know him at all?
Speaker 1: That's how weird Out got to start, right, Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: He's just was the legend of Doctor Demento.
Speaker 2: He played novelty songs and novelty record so any comedy
Speaker 2: song there was a whole mess, a whole different. They
Speaker 2: don't do it anymore as much, but in the seventies,
Speaker 2: especially in the eighties. Uh, it was all comedy joke
Speaker 2: songs like that was the birth of weird al But
Speaker 2: it was like Steve Martin, you know, doing King tut
Speaker 2: that was like it charted that That's all Duck. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that disco Duck was a hit. So, I mean, that's
Speaker 2: a novelty record. All these like but do you remember
Speaker 2: he would just play novelty records. Do you remember the Coasters?
Speaker 2: They had that song well jobing cad like what dun.
Speaker 2: It was called beat Beep and then by the end
Speaker 2: of the song it gets faster, so it's like that
Speaker 2: that don that then that betpep bet beep, the hormone
Speaker 2: beat beep beep, and now I'm going to one hundred
Speaker 2: and and so it was like a song about a race,
Speaker 2: but the song it was not a real it was
Speaker 2: it was like a novelty song, but it was a
Speaker 2: hit really and it was Yeah, so all these songs.
Speaker 2: So he would play all these kind of weird songs
Speaker 2: like that and very it was very more seventies than
Speaker 2: anything else. But I would listen to that Sunday nights
Speaker 2: and and and just try to record all these funny
Speaker 2: songs and then see if I can start writing them myself.
Speaker 1: See you write them down and perform the school.
Speaker 2: The first song, my first parody song I ever wrote,
Speaker 2: was awful, but it was what's your what's your defto?
Speaker 1: Money?
Speaker 2: This is bad? Do you remember King Kong Bundy was
Speaker 2: a rapper. I was a wrestler, so I did. I
Speaker 2: wish it was King Kong Bundy instead of Manic Monday,
Speaker 2: Like I wish I was King Kong Bundy. That would
Speaker 2: be a fun or whatever. And it was like it
Speaker 2: was awful. And I remember writing it like and I
Speaker 2: had my eraser, my papermate, eraser mate, and like rewriting
Speaker 2: the lyrics. I was like, oh my gosh, I'm writing
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna be weird out and that's what I
Speaker 2: and I remember writing it was just I thought it
Speaker 2: was so clever and fun. Then I was too embarrassed.
Speaker 2: Couldn't play for anybody.
Speaker 1: What year weird out?
Speaker 2: Did you see? What period is the there to be
Speaker 2: Stupid tour? I had a teal concert tee, no sleeve
Speaker 2: concert tea, That's what That's what I bought. What was
Speaker 2: I doing? I just I wanted to be you know,
Speaker 2: this is pre Zach Morris, but I was like I
Speaker 2: would have that or gosh, my wardrobe. I was trying
Speaker 2: to be as fashionable as I could as a kid.
Speaker 2: And you know, growing up in Sorrtyes, New York, was
Speaker 2: this you and going to this concert? Or Drew was there?
Speaker 2: He was, but he was not. No, he wasn't. He
Speaker 2: wasn't my best friend yet. Okay, but now Gerroori he's
Speaker 2: talking about Gerard Bradford who our show as a producer.
Speaker 2: And but I we started hanging out more, I'd say
Speaker 2: probably end of high school when we're getting into the
Speaker 2: Beastie Boys and started like we had a bad We
Speaker 2: had a fake rap group that was terrible. What was
Speaker 2: the name of the group? We were called the minute
Speaker 2: Man and I don't know why, and we not even
Speaker 2: knowing there already was a punk band called the minute Man.
Speaker 2: We were we just thought and I can't even tell
Speaker 2: you it's honestly, it's is worse than uh death money, dude.
Speaker 2: My name was Jim Hat and the room is explosive there.
Speaker 2: I was like Jim Hat with that B Boys style,
Speaker 2: wild dude, it was awful. I thought, Jim Hat, I know,
Speaker 2: like that makes logical sense. I wouldn't have wanted to
Speaker 2: be Colgate. I thought that would be a cool rap name.
Speaker 1: Colgate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I thought people could have the logo on
Speaker 2: the shirt, like the toothpaste.
Speaker 1: And they still make Colgate half Colgate still.
Speaker 2: I don't you know.
Speaker 1: One day, like whenever I land in La X, the
Speaker 1: first time I make is that I go to pharmacy
Speaker 1: to do the trial size stuff like the things I
Speaker 1: need toothbrush, toothpage, and I was just noticed and like
Speaker 1: brands that only exist there. Well, no, well, brands that
Speaker 1: I thought were out of you know, like Safeguard or
Speaker 1: like they trail like seventies brands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cam they still they exist in trial size. So
Speaker 2: what other what other concerts did you go to when
Speaker 2: you were uh uh weird? I saw, oh gosh, it
Speaker 2: was that Upax. So there was that group that's saying Expose,
Speaker 2: come go with me. Whoa you saw Expose? They had
Speaker 2: a song that was really I loved it. It wasn't
Speaker 2: come go with me, but it was a point and overturn, yes,
Speaker 2: the point of uh, you're taking me right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And they had seasons change, Seasons Change.
Speaker 2: I love that song.
Speaker 1: I was a member of Columbia House to me too,
Speaker 1: but I was the I would never return the all right.
Speaker 2: So for those that don't know, at Columbia House and
Speaker 2: all your kids, you missed out.
Speaker 1: If you, yeah, this this was our Spotify you you
Speaker 1: were basically they will offer you twelve cassettes or CDs
Speaker 1: for a penny.
Speaker 2: You would tape Scott's tape of penny.
Speaker 1: Scotch tape of Penny to the to the order form,
Speaker 1: pick your pick your twelve CDs or cassettes you want it,
Speaker 1: and then for an extra three for an additional three
Speaker 1: records you had to I forgot what the check was
Speaker 1: like for. You know, for a dollar ninety eight more,
Speaker 1: you can get three more. See, so you can get
Speaker 1: fifteen all together for under the low low price of
Speaker 1: three bucks. Yeah, and then you were part of this
Speaker 1: club in which every month they would send you product
Speaker 1: and you had, yeah, like two.
Speaker 2: Weeks to mail it, not even yeah something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you either liked it or mail it back. If you
Speaker 2: kept it, it was like twenty bucks a record.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you kept it, it was definitely like seventeen
Speaker 1: ninety nine or something like that. But if you mailed
Speaker 1: it back, and I think between that and the first
Speaker 1: two years of trying to catch Michael Jackson videos on
Speaker 1: MTV was how I developed my vocabulary for pop music
Speaker 1: because I would never mail back Debbie Gibson's Out of
Speaker 1: the Blue or.
Speaker 2: Or Timpany's first record. I think I got tricked into
Speaker 2: that one toil. Yeah, I know you know what.
Speaker 1: I think she thinks I'm being sarcastic, like I'm cool
Speaker 1: with her now, But in the beginning, I think in
Speaker 1: her mind it was like, what you're trying to told me?
Speaker 1: What you're saying that? Yeah, my first I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I had Out of the Blue Eyed, Electric Youth, Electric Youth.
Speaker 2: I was like they were a first War right. I
Speaker 2: was like, no, I really was.
Speaker 1: I was a fan of yours, and she was just
Speaker 1: looking like, Okay, where's where's the Where's ash? Yeah? Right,
Speaker 1: she's cool though she didn't believe. She didn't believe it
Speaker 1: for the longest, but then I think she realized, like,
Speaker 1: oh you are.
Speaker 2: But every album back then I loved it, even if
Speaker 2: he had like one hit song on there. I remember
Speaker 2: I was trying to I didn't know what music I
Speaker 2: was going to be into, right, so I tried every
Speaker 2: type of genre and like, oh, maybe I'm in the metal,
Speaker 2: Is it really? Yeah? I was like, dude, maybe I
Speaker 2: should like worship with the Devil, and like, what am
Speaker 2: I talking about? I'm an altar boy.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think the weird thing is that
Speaker 1: I think between twelve and seventeen, you're open to anything,
Speaker 1: which you know I can't like. Now I really have
Speaker 1: the patience to like sift through records and see what
Speaker 1: I'm into, and the way that I used to do
Speaker 1: back in the day, Like I would listen to an
Speaker 1: entire Mina Me sal Machine record, whether I like the
Speaker 1: song or not too, because you didn't want to go
Speaker 1: up to the cassette and fast forward. Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: like this song, What's what else is it?
Speaker 2: Like? You would just play the whole thing? Yeah, exactly, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't want to. It's easier to lift the needle
Speaker 2: to move that back, but no, I would listen to
Speaker 2: the whole album. Then I'd like the B sides. I
Speaker 2: would know what song follows what song too, in order.
Speaker 1: See. That explains why sometimes when an artist comes on
Speaker 1: and then you ask for the deep cut and I'm like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, what what about the hit the hit joint?
Speaker 2: And you like, Nope, I want the Yeah, that's the
Speaker 2: secret one that you go like, oh, like like if
Speaker 2: you buy Cyndi Lauper, you just sing she Bop, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like that's the that's the secret song off of
Speaker 2: Right the Girl.
Speaker 1: Right Right? Do you have a top five like performances
Speaker 1: on the show for us?
Speaker 2: God, there's so much now we've been done. We've done
Speaker 2: so many shows now, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean you, I have a top five, I have
Speaker 1: a top five of me performing and a top five
Speaker 1: of me watching.
Speaker 2: Was one of your top five recently? Dog Dude Miller?
Speaker 1: I almost sometimes It's it's hard not to because I'm
Speaker 1: so connected to music and the memories that it brings on.
Speaker 1: Because whenever I hear fly like an Eagle, I instantly
Speaker 1: think about the first month of school, and I'm thinking
Speaker 1: of like my parents not conning me, like Okay, we're
Speaker 1: going to take you to this brown building and you're
Speaker 1: going to stay in here for the next seven hours
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna come and get you at three o'clock.
Speaker 1: And you know, like I was just never explaining the
Speaker 1: concept at school. It was just like, huh wait, I'm
Speaker 1: playing with them, and so I think during like one
Speaker 1: of those explanations, it was the radio was just playing
Speaker 1: like Billy Davis and Marilyn mccoo's you Don't Have to be.
Speaker 2: A Star, and then like you I am radio at
Speaker 2: this point, FM you know what?
Speaker 1: So Philly, Philly was really good with Fmrie On the
Speaker 1: weekends though, FM radio turned religious and then you'd have
Speaker 1: to live and listen to AM radio, so we'd have
Speaker 1: to switch a wizard one hundred. And the thing is
Speaker 1: is that I lived in a don't touch my stereo household,
Speaker 1: So again a big part of my palette is the
Speaker 1: fact that I had to listen to what my sister
Speaker 1: wanted to listen to and what my dad. I didn't
Speaker 1: control the car radio nor in my bet you know
Speaker 1: the room that my sister and I shared, so like
Speaker 1: I just remember, like.
Speaker 2: I remember pressing, like being able to press the button
Speaker 2: to my dad's car that would it would be a plastic,
Speaker 2: hard plastic button that you would actually switch the station.
Speaker 2: You would see the zip to the one side right
Speaker 2: and I actually tuned. I mean this is pre digital
Speaker 2: scan and seek for something. It was actually press the
Speaker 2: button and you would feel like gears moving to the
Speaker 2: radio station that you want to yeah, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I just to hope to hear like the Rolling Stones
Speaker 2: or something like that. And yeah, so fly like an eagle.
Speaker 2: It was definitely, dude, you crust that one. And I
Speaker 2: was like, dude, I actually had to look over to
Speaker 2: see what your face was doing because usually I can't
Speaker 2: see the drummer.
Speaker 1: I was doing every I had two moments in which
Speaker 1: I kind of had a I might cry moment.
Speaker 2: It was awesome, dude. It was honestly, it just clicked,
Speaker 2: like because you did the first like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the space. I had to beg for those
Speaker 1: extra because at first they were like three minutes and
Speaker 1: thirty seconds, you know, and I'm like, wait a minute, guys,
Speaker 1: not for this one. You don't understand, like the most
Speaker 1: important part of the song is like the beginning. We
Speaker 1: gotta do that.
Speaker 2: So you did didn't did out, So it was so yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't want to end. And he was having fun. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he was having and he was so look at it,
Speaker 2: because you know, we have these guys on that like
Speaker 2: they don't play with anyone else but their band, and
Speaker 2: they're jaded and they're like, oh well look, it's almost
Speaker 2: feel like they're cheating on their band, but then when
Speaker 2: they see how much love and how much work you
Speaker 2: guys put into that song, like Eddie Grant, Oh.
Speaker 1: I forgot.
Speaker 2: He was so nervous. I know, he was so nervous,
Speaker 2: like Jimmy I, I I don't I only play with
Speaker 2: my band. I I'm these guys are great, but I
Speaker 2: don't know them. And you know, to play with my song,
Speaker 2: you know, electric Avenue, And so he goes, do you
Speaker 2: remember you brought a harmonica?
Speaker 1: Yes? Oh?
Speaker 2: Did you wait?
Speaker 1: When we're sound checking? Are you watching on close times?
Speaker 1: I'm watching, damn it.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I am, but sometimes I'd like to be surprised.
Speaker 1: But we're doing sound check. It was like a ten
Speaker 1: minute version and we're like looking at each other while
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: Like, paying harmonica do electric Avenue? Like who is to blaming?
Speaker 2: I like, dude, stop. But so I saw him and
Speaker 2: he goes, yeah, I'm just gonna bring this just in case.
Speaker 2: I go, Eddie, you don't need a harmonica. The roots
Speaker 2: will got you covered. Trust me, man, it's gonna me fun.
Speaker 2: And he did the song, didn't do harmonica, and he crushed.
Speaker 2: It was great, And I went over to say thank
Speaker 2: you for being on the show and want to shake
Speaker 2: his hand and what was in his hand harmonica? Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the case.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: It's also like a big part.
Speaker 1: I'm always nervous about the legend because one you don't
Speaker 1: want to ruin like the thought in your head of like, uh,
Speaker 1: what's it gonna be or what's it not going to be?
Speaker 1: It's just that sometimes all right, I met we had
Speaker 1: one guess that walked away, do you remember, Yeah, Cinthy yea,
Speaker 1: Just because I think, okay, in our minds, in their minds,
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, I'm gonna play with the roots. So
Speaker 1: they think like I'll take my song and filter it
Speaker 1: through and I'll rutify it. Like that's the one word
Speaker 1: we hear the most inside the rehearsal room, like you know,
Speaker 1: don't don't do the normal version, like rutify it. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, what you don't get is that us
Speaker 1: rutifying it is doing it just like your album version.
Speaker 2: That is roots fact, because we want the yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: we want the exact sound. We want Eddie Grant to
Speaker 2: go out in the streets if he if he yeah,
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to do that. Anymore. He goes, I
Speaker 2: don't do that. I haven't done that for twenty five
Speaker 2: years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bring it back.
Speaker 2: That's the part of the song that we love, those
Speaker 2: little nuggets, those little awesome little eggs, those easter eggs
Speaker 2: where you're like, oh no, that's the one part you
Speaker 2: gotta do, like right, like on the dock side of town,
Speaker 2: yeah or something. You didn't do that, and he was like, uh,
Speaker 2: like when we have it, was it crowded house or
Speaker 2: something came on. I'm like, all I want to hear
Speaker 2: is that base I go Boodoo do doo. That was
Speaker 2: freedom a little bit. If you don't hit that baseline,
Speaker 2: and that's just ruin. I need that. It's part of
Speaker 2: my whole thing of loving that song. It's like, but
Speaker 2: we usually hit it like ninety nine percent of the time, right.
Speaker 2: We convinced the people tore like, come on, you gotta
Speaker 2: do that part and like, oh, I don't hit that
Speaker 2: note anymore. It's like, yeah, but try it. Just go
Speaker 2: for it because trust me, we'll get your back. And
Speaker 2: then they do it in the scores.
Speaker 1: Well, probably the one humorous movement for us was definitely
Speaker 1: in the Air Tonight, where that was the only time
Speaker 1: I saw you being nervous, dude, twice twice in my life.
Speaker 1: But I've talked myself into major sabotage.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I wasn't helping them like I well see, I didn't
Speaker 1: know about meditation back then. What I should have been
Speaker 1: doing was basically deep breathing. Get out of your head.
Speaker 1: Just hit these three times the way you've always done
Speaker 1: it all your life.
Speaker 2: In the basement.
Speaker 1: And for some reason, right when Phil Collins is like
Speaker 1: and I remember, and I was like, don't mess up,
Speaker 1: don't mess it.
Speaker 2: I remember, don't worry all right, don't fuck up, don't
Speaker 2: fuck it? How good I ever.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Jimmy. Jimmy's looking left.
Speaker 2: I went from behind my desk to the front to
Speaker 2: look at your face. I know, love it. And I'm
Speaker 2: looking at the band standard for the roots members and
Speaker 2: I says.
Speaker 1: Silence up, oh boy, no using fool me, oh dann
Speaker 1: cameras he's looking at me.
Speaker 2: The heart doesn't so you're looking at it.
Speaker 1: The pain still grows sustainious dudems.
Speaker 2: And I hit that symbol and was just drop a
Speaker 2: stick or something. No, my my my ride symbol. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I fell fell down dude. It was the fell I
Speaker 2: broke in pieces.
Speaker 1: I was gonna let it slide and just be like
Speaker 1: I'm going home. I failed and then shout out to
Speaker 1: Sugar Steve. Steve's like, no, man, I can't let this happen.
Speaker 1: We're gonna fix this. And I was like, well, we
Speaker 1: can't go back and tape it like it's over, and
Speaker 1: he says, I bet you. They have sound check on tape.
Speaker 1: So we basically.
Speaker 2: Spent at least an hours editing. Oh god, you remember
Speaker 2: that he was here. He was there to five in
Speaker 2: the board.
Speaker 1: We're the only show that gives that autonomy, like gives
Speaker 1: that power to guests to come and edit their own
Speaker 1: thing and mix their own thing. Any other show like
Speaker 1: I've done Letterman. But I'm like, okay, so we want
Speaker 1: reverbal and you know, verse.
Speaker 2: Two and then already and they're like it's already, can't
Speaker 2: touch it right, They're like, no, it's gone.
Speaker 1: It is what it is.
Speaker 2: And we let everyone like go in listen to it
Speaker 2: and mix it. But we usually we have the right
Speaker 2: sound between you know, we we have the best sound.
Speaker 1: I feel like we have the best sound mixing and engineering.
Speaker 1: Yeah that al Simon stayed up until right before his segment,
Speaker 1: which is unheard of. Right.
Speaker 2: We were nervous because we got to deliver the show.
Speaker 2: And this is when we were doing twelve thirty five, right,
Speaker 2: so we had an extra hour. But it was like
Speaker 2: I think it was up to like it was actually
Speaker 2: up to midnight.
Speaker 1: Right, it was ripe two commercials before you were actually
Speaker 1: covering more.
Speaker 2: So he spent we take that five or six, right,
Speaker 2: and he engineered it like it was a real song
Speaker 2: for five hours. It must be the best engineered song
Speaker 2: of all time. I don't even I kind of remember
Speaker 2: what it was that wasn't the one with stomp was it?
Speaker 2: We don't even remember. That's the thing. It's just now
Speaker 2: I got to go back in the archives and he
Speaker 2: really spent the time in that one. But but then
Speaker 2: back to the Phil Collins thing, because you ended up
Speaker 2: nailing it on when you see it on TV, because
Speaker 2: all a pack a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that to me, that that was a moment.
Speaker 2: I mean, I love that. I love Jim James. I
Speaker 2: was from Late Night. I love that. That's right.
Speaker 1: He did another life with all of his presentations.
Speaker 2: Whenever Jim James comes on. I also liked when you
Speaker 2: guys come when the roots come on, and we spend
Speaker 2: extra time like making a production and it's actually it's
Speaker 2: almost like a music video.
Speaker 1: Or musical musical. Yeah, my three moments from that. I
Speaker 1: don't know why. Once I realized that we had a
Speaker 1: lot of I didn't realize the power of how Dave
Speaker 1: is as as a director Dave de Meti and and
Speaker 1: and directing and doing tricks and all those things. So
Speaker 1: I thought, like, I wonder how we could pull off
Speaker 1: a song that makes us look like we're playing in
Speaker 1: slow motion like the Beastie Boys always do. Like so
Speaker 1: what you want video was like the ipetus of it,
Speaker 1: like of them performing in you're hearing the song in
Speaker 1: real time, but it's like them doing it slow motion.
Speaker 1: So when Usher was on the show, yep, you know,
Speaker 1: I knew it was going to confuse the audience, like
Speaker 1: we had to do that Usher song like chipmunks.
Speaker 2: Dude, it was like.
Speaker 1: And he's dancing really super fast and he caught and
Speaker 1: he caught like he was dancing, And really that's the
Speaker 1: thing I thought, like do you need to practice this?
Speaker 1: Like do you need to figure out your splits and everything?
Speaker 2: It looks so weird and so you're almost laughing at.
Speaker 1: Him, right, but then when you watch it, it was, oh, it's.
Speaker 2: Magical, dude. He's like slow motion doing the perfect dance
Speaker 2: moves and singing on the you know, on the ring
Speaker 2: exactly right. Yeah, it was insane. That was That was
Speaker 2: a cool moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The second time, Tyler, Tyler, they created To See
Speaker 1: You Again with Caliuchis and he created Yeah, this it
Speaker 1: was almost like a surreal musical. But it's it's to me,
Speaker 1: that was like a moment, dude. Get we have to
Speaker 1: talk about Prince.
Speaker 2: There's there's two films, there's so many.
Speaker 1: Yeah. For me, the best part of the craziest memory
Speaker 1: is definitely the Ping.
Speaker 2: Pong with the pea pong story. But even goes on
Speaker 2: before that. Do you remember bring me on stage at
Speaker 2: the garden, Oh, Madison Square Garden. So Chris Rock comes
Speaker 2: on and he goes, he goes bah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: He goes, well, of course Prince is my favorite concert.
Speaker 2: I've never seen him. Go. You've never seen Prince like you.
Speaker 2: You love music and you've never seen Prince in concert?
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? How could you even say that?
Speaker 2: You're a fan of what do you. I can't talk
Speaker 2: to you until you see Prince, all right, And so
Speaker 2: I go, all right, I gotta go see Prince. And
Speaker 2: you're like, dude, I can't believe you. I haven't seen him.
Speaker 2: So anyways, I go to the garden see Prince and
Speaker 2: he is unbelievable. He really is. I remember Madonna was
Speaker 2: at the concerts in the audience watching Prince stoneface, just
Speaker 2: going like wow, I got up my game. He's just
Speaker 2: so magical. And she's great too, Yeah he was. So
Speaker 2: he's crushing it. And Prince's manager or whoever this was,
Speaker 2: came up to me, Yeah, hi, I'm a princess manager.
Speaker 2: I don't even think it was Cairo was someone to say, like,
Speaker 2: Prince would really love you to get on stage at
Speaker 2: the end of the concert and dance with him, like
Speaker 2: he gets a bunch of celebrity friends and to go
Speaker 2: on stage and dancing at the end. I go, that's
Speaker 2: not really my thing. I'm not really a big dancer,
Speaker 2: but thank you. So I'll just watch the concert. Next song,
Speaker 2: someone else comes out like, hy how you doing. I'm
Speaker 2: working for a princess A different person, Yeah, different person.
Speaker 2: I go, Prince would really love for you. I go, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I mean, that's not really my thing.
Speaker 2: And I don't even think he really wants me to
Speaker 2: dance with him anyways. So that happens to me maybe
Speaker 2: two more times during the whole concert. End of the concert,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I see you, because I didn't see you
Speaker 2: if the whole concert go what's up dude? You go,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get on stage at the end of the concert.
Speaker 2: I go, oh, if you're getting up there, I'll go
Speaker 2: up with you then. So they all right, so you
Speaker 2: get up, I get up, you go behind a drum set.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And as I get up and you get behind drums set,
Speaker 2: Prince leaves. He's keep his he's on a keyboard and
Speaker 2: it goes and sinks into the stage side of the stage,
Speaker 2: and I could see him down there, almost getting in
Speaker 2: his limousine right there, and I'm like, and I'm looking
Speaker 2: around and there's no one else on stage dancing but me. Right,
Speaker 2: it's just me dancing and you're playing. I go, oh my,
Speaker 2: that's exactly why I don't say yes to this stuff.
Speaker 2: So I think it kind of started there. And then
Speaker 2: when Prince came on the show, it was always fun, right.
Speaker 2: So Prince came on the show and is, uh, probably
Speaker 2: is Kiran His manager, Yeah, says hey, Prince would really
Speaker 2: have to play ping pong on the show. So we go, okay,
Speaker 2: we don't really play ping pong. We played beer pong,
Speaker 2: but if he wants to play ping pong, it's fine.
Speaker 2: Then he calls back and he goes, you know what,
Speaker 2: Prince does not want to play beer pong on the show.
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to play ping pong. We go, okay, whatever,
Speaker 2: he just come on play music. As long as he
Speaker 2: has fun, we're good. He calls back. He goes, Prince
Speaker 2: does want to play ping pong. We rethought about it.
Speaker 2: Go okay, we'll have it ready to go just in case.
Speaker 2: Calls back. He goes he doesn't. He wants to play
Speaker 2: ping pong, but he doesn't want to play it on camera.
Speaker 2: He wants to do it, and I go, what's your obsession?
Speaker 2: He goes, he just thinks, Jimmy, be fun to play
Speaker 2: ping pong with. I go, whatever, We'll have it ready
Speaker 2: to go. If he wants to play backstage whatever. Man,
Speaker 2: So he comes down. The show never brings up pong,
Speaker 2: doesn't even mention it all right, it just comes on
Speaker 2: and plays. He's great and he and he leaves and
Speaker 2: it was a great show and it was awesome. I go,
Speaker 2: that was interesting. So I tell the story on the
Speaker 2: show about the whole ping pong thing, and I go,
Speaker 2: by the way, the Prince, if you're watching, I would
Speaker 2: probably kick your ass in ping pong or something like that,
Speaker 2: all right, just joking around. So then I think that
Speaker 2: week I'm at the dinner, right, and so this is
Speaker 2: this is the rare night. No, this is when Winnie oh,
Speaker 2: Whennie was being born. So I get a call.
Speaker 1: It was around that time. I just remember, like it
Speaker 1: was any moment, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 1: get a call at ten pm. Now I think I
Speaker 1: was sick this night, because this is one of the
Speaker 1: rare times I was in bed at like ten thirty
Speaker 1: pm on a school night or whatever. And they're like,
Speaker 1: Prince wants to play Jimmy now at Susan Sarandon's ping
Speaker 1: pong spot. Yes, Spin Spin, And I was just like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: you know he's about to kid da da da dah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll let him know.
Speaker 1: And then like a minute later they're like, well he's
Speaker 1: uh you know, he's down to do it right now,
Speaker 1: if you know available. And I was like, oh, maybe
Speaker 1: they didn't get the message. I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Jimmy's about to have a kid, so uh, yeah it
Speaker 1: might you know, it might be busy or whatever. And
Speaker 1: then a minute later he says, okay, well, uh just
Speaker 1: name the time and place and you know he'll be there.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, they're just not listening or not
Speaker 1: taking a note for an answer.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm not going to answer this.
Speaker 1: So I went to bed for like twenty minutes and
Speaker 1: over my eyes and I was like, I don't let
Speaker 1: me at least tell Jimmy.
Speaker 2: So then I texted you.
Speaker 1: I said, hey, uh, Prince wants to play in ping pong.
Speaker 1: So I had no idea of this whole exchange that
Speaker 1: you just went through. I said, for some strange reason,
Speaker 1: he wants to play in ping pong at Susan sarandom
Speaker 1: spot and I told him that you're tied up with
Speaker 1: baby stuff. So anyway, just passing the message along.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: I had no idea that you were going to answer
Speaker 1: that message.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was out. I was out to dinner
Speaker 2: that night. Okay, I wasn't because it wasn't yet. It
Speaker 2: was close to it. It was close to it. I
Speaker 2: knew any moment that it was, any moment I had
Speaker 2: to be on the ready for winning to be born.
Speaker 2: But I was out to dinner that night. I'm like
Speaker 2: what And then I got a text from his manager
Speaker 2: or something, so you gave him.
Speaker 1: Did it happen that night or the next night? It
Speaker 1: happened soon.
Speaker 2: I think it happened that night, right because I got
Speaker 2: a text from their manager right and saying like, hey,
Speaker 2: this princess manager princess at Spin. He wants to play
Speaker 2: you in ping pong right now. So I go. It's
Speaker 2: the weirdest thing. I go. So I told the first
Speaker 2: time having dinner with him, like, all right, I gotta go. Man,
Speaker 2: Prince wants to play me in ping pong and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go meet him at the Spin at Susan Random's Club.
Speaker 2: So I leave, I, I, you know, get in a
Speaker 2: cab and I go down to Spin and I go out.
Speaker 2: I go into the story, go down the steps and
Speaker 2: there's a girl working there and I go, Hi, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm here to see uh and she goes Prince. He goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: she goes, he's right behind the curtain. He's in the
Speaker 2: private room over there. I go, all right, so I
Speaker 2: go and there's a good They have a velvet room.
Speaker 2: There's a velvet rope and a curtain, and I go
Speaker 2: past the rope and I opened the curtain and he's
Speaker 2: Prince is standing there and a crushed blue velvet suit.
Speaker 2: Were in the high heeled right shoes, and he's holding
Speaker 2: a ping pong whole paddle and he looks at me.
Speaker 2: He goes, you ready to do? And I go, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, I go, I guess so sure. He goes
Speaker 2: want a warm up? I go, uh yeah, I warm
Speaker 2: up a little bit, Like in my head, I don't
Speaker 2: even play ping pong right even know what he's talking about.
Speaker 2: So we start warming up a little bit. If he
Speaker 2: had two friends in the room, he goes, everybody leave,
Speaker 2: everyone go go. So it's just me and Prince. So
Speaker 2: everyone had to leave the room. It was just me
Speaker 2: and Prince and nobody else. And I goes, all right,
Speaker 2: you ready, I go, let's start. So he hits the
Speaker 2: first he's like, hits it over and it goes and
Speaker 2: it just it was a good shot. And I didn't
Speaker 2: hit the back. He goes, one's it and I go, oh,
Speaker 2: you're gonna talk smack or and this is gonna happen
Speaker 2: twenty one points. Let's dude, this man, let's go, Prince.
Speaker 2: So I go, let's we start playing and you know,
Speaker 2: hitting back and forth. It's he's crushing me. So I think,
Speaker 2: now it's like twenty to ten or something like that.
Speaker 2: He's killing me. And he goes, uh, game point. I go,
Speaker 2: let's let's go, man, and he hits the shot and
Speaker 2: it's like and it's like beautiful, perfect shot and the
Speaker 2: painst spin and spit flames coming off it and it
Speaker 2: hits the hits that corner of the table that's just
Speaker 2: impossible to hit them. Yell, you know what I'm talking,
Speaker 2: like a perfect shot, and when flying behind me and
Speaker 2: I go, ah, you won, you on and I go
Speaker 2: and I'm looking in the background to find the ball.
Speaker 2: I picked up the ball and I turn around and
Speaker 2: he's gone and he's not there. And I don't know
Speaker 2: him that well, so I thought maybe he was hiding
Speaker 2: or something. No, so I'm like Prince Prime, Prince Prince
Speaker 2: some like looking under the pink punk table like there's security,
Speaker 2: but it looks like crazy. I was like, is he
Speaker 2: hiding behind a curtain? I don't know him, but I
Speaker 2: don't know the type of sense of humor. He's funny,
Speaker 2: but I was like, but then I look and kind
Speaker 2: of rope is kind of moving almost like Batman.
Speaker 1: In the door swiveling. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah the window. So I go to the girl,
Speaker 2: I go, did he she just yeah? He left? I go, okay, son,
Speaker 2: I went up and up the stairs on the street.
Speaker 1: So, me, being notorist lee late for everything, I got
Speaker 1: back from a DJ gig and got your text that
Speaker 1: about to play prints right now. I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: on my way over. So I drive to Manhattan to
Speaker 1: spin get out the car, and I forget who from
Speaker 1: the show was outside smoking a cigarette. But I run
Speaker 1: and I was like, am I too late? Am I
Speaker 1: too late? And she's like, wait, you just missed him?
Speaker 2: That was him?
Speaker 1: And I looked, uh in the street and in the
Speaker 1: suv he was there and pulling off to a red light.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey on wait and I'll run and
Speaker 1: straight up great poupon style. I'm like knocking on the
Speaker 1: door and the window rose down slowly and I said, wait,
Speaker 1: it's over. It's over what happened? And seriously he's a
Speaker 1: ask you boy, And then this thing the windows goes
Speaker 1: slowly up, just like the great Poupon conversial just takes
Speaker 1: off and takes off. The only thing I noticed that
Speaker 1: he had the paddle with him. Yeah, and it was
Speaker 1: a gold paddle. And later did I learned that he
Speaker 1: is that obsessed with it.
Speaker 2: We did a show with.
Speaker 1: Him in Carousel. Uh we well, i'll rephrase that. We
Speaker 1: were supposed to do a show with him.
Speaker 2: We did it. We showed up with him. There's the
Speaker 2: weirdest lineup ever.
Speaker 1: Dinah Ross, Toto, Lows Lowbos Dude, Dinah Ross, who booked
Speaker 1: this god, Dinah Ross, Lows Lobos, Toto Journey.
Speaker 2: Oh Prince the roots.
Speaker 1: He cares now and he was supposed to do a
Speaker 1: three hour set then the Roots, right yeah, nah, friends,
Speaker 1: don't play that. Princes wound up doing a five hour
Speaker 1: set and no roots. We like, definantly like we still don't,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to like, yeah, we're still going to perform,
Speaker 1: and we did like one and a half. We just
Speaker 1: stopped this on like all right, y'all want to see Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll just do the sea just the Yeah, it's at
Speaker 1: this point in the No, the place holds like eight
Speaker 1: thousand people. I swear to god, it was like thirty
Speaker 1: five people. Yeah, they all split on Prince left like
Speaker 1: we just got like y'all the seed. Okay, No, but
Speaker 1: what's the one that the DJ night with Prince? Remember
Speaker 1: that on that one?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was he he that's the best story Everard.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: I was Okay. So I was on I was on
Speaker 1: a blind date, and I wanted to appear cool, to
Speaker 1: be cool, and so I asked this, you know, like,
Speaker 1: I got tickets to Prince, you want to see it?
Speaker 1: And I had ten tickets, and me not thinking I invited,
Speaker 1: I said, oh, I got ten tickets. So I invited
Speaker 1: ten of my friends. I never counted myself as one
Speaker 1: of the ten. So when we get there, I was like,
Speaker 1: here's your ticket, here's your ticket, here's your ticket, here's
Speaker 1: your ticket.
Speaker 2: And I was like nine, oh fuck. So and this
Speaker 2: is beyond sold out.
Speaker 1: So they're in and I had the number of his
Speaker 1: assistant and so I'm like, hey, I'm on a date
Speaker 1: and I forgot to buy myself a ticket. Decided to
Speaker 1: explain the whole thing and She's like, yo, man, like
Speaker 1: no one can get in, like you know everyone else.
Speaker 1: Sharpton was trying to come down. Spike Lee was trying
Speaker 1: to say please, anything else ready in trouble. So he
Speaker 1: just happened to be in his own custom golf cart
Speaker 1: in Philly, doing like forty miles an hour in a
Speaker 1: golf cart, like not doing donuts, but like like that
Speaker 1: sort of thing. And I was just like, oh, just
Speaker 1: tell him straight up. I said, look, I made a
Speaker 1: mistake that da da da. I had ten friends. I
Speaker 1: forgot to include myself in the ten. Can I sit
Speaker 1: somewhere please? And he was just like all right, cool,
Speaker 1: you can sit on the stage under the stage. So
Speaker 1: the way that that stage is designed like his name,
Speaker 1: like it's it's a thirteen foot tall stage, and so
Speaker 1: I'm literally sitting under the arrow that is his name. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: my dates like sitting with my friends in the audience,
Speaker 1: but I'm sitting like under the stage. And mid show,
Speaker 1: this assistant comes by and says, Prince wants you to
Speaker 1: throw him a party, and I was like, I have
Speaker 1: no resource, like right now. He said yeah, tonight, and
Speaker 1: I was like, well, well I would have to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can use our phones. But I'm like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to miss the concert. And now it's like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: working for Prince now, So I'm like leaving my concert
Speaker 1: going into gotta you gotta throw them a party, right,
Speaker 1: So I called my friends who I normally do parties
Speaker 1: with in Philly. I was like, look, Prince, hang on
Speaker 1: a second. He wants one pool table. Okay, hey, Prince
Speaker 1: wants to do a party tonight. So in like four hours,
Speaker 1: can you find me a spot? They said, we found
Speaker 1: a spot. I said, okay, Now he wants a pool table.
Speaker 1: They're like, well, this is a five story walk up.
Speaker 2: Can't please?
Speaker 1: Can we please just make this happen? Please please? So
Speaker 1: they had to find a detachable pool table to carry
Speaker 1: up five flights to stairs. So then I rush home,
Speaker 1: get my records ready, get there. You know, Prince is
Speaker 1: like a late party. So this party's not starting to
Speaker 1: like one point thirty, and it's ten of us and
Speaker 1: we're inside and basically he wants to control the door,
Speaker 1: and you know, there's a whole group of people waiting outside,
Speaker 1: but they're inside. There's only like seventy people. Club shit
Speaker 1: hold about three hundred. Anyway, so I'm playing like a
Speaker 1: bunch of like fail out, you know, West African funk music.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, like, okay, I'm gonna educate Prince on Faialai.
Speaker 1: He likes James Brown, he likes George Clinton, and play
Speaker 1: the original you know, West African guy of funk and
Speaker 1: he'll be into it. And Prince wasn't into it. He
Speaker 1: was just like what else he got? I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I playing another Faila song? What else he got? I
Speaker 1: was like, damn, He's like, play some of your music
Speaker 1: and I was like, I never played the roots in
Speaker 1: the club, Like I'm just scared to do that because
Speaker 1: it's instant club.
Speaker 2: So I'm failing.
Speaker 1: And twenty five minutes in and his assistant walks up
Speaker 1: and says, here, play this, and she gives me a
Speaker 1: DVD and it's Finding Nemo.
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, the movie, not the soundtrack,
Speaker 2: the actual movie.
Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, what do I I don't
Speaker 1: there's not a DVD player here. She said, oh. She
Speaker 1: comes back gives me a portable DVD player. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I say, it's a nightclub, they don't have it. His
Speaker 1: engineer gives me, like the chords. I said, yeah, but
Speaker 1: there's no projection. There's a projection screen.
Speaker 2: So suddenly.
Speaker 1: I put this thing on, but I'm still DJing, so
Speaker 1: I figured like he just wants the visual of like
Speaker 1: the fish playing in the background. Yeah. And then they
Speaker 1: come over and they're like no, no, no, can you
Speaker 1: turn the volume up. I was like, wait, we're in
Speaker 1: a nightclub in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: You want to watch Finding Nemo?
Speaker 1: And he said yeah, just you know, just kill the
Speaker 1: music and put the thing up. And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, you set me up. So I got the
Speaker 1: opening DJ guy, I said, look and about five seconds
Speaker 1: do the transfer and put up the So suddenly we
Speaker 1: go from like this this funk music talking about protesting
Speaker 1: the government in Nigeria to suddenly, like Ellen Degenero's voice.
Speaker 2: He just wants to watch Finding Nemo. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it was like it's it didn't affect nobody and
Speaker 1: his crew like this happens all the time every day,
Speaker 1: and I'm just sitting there dejected, like.
Speaker 2: No one has this story, No one has this story.
Speaker 2: That is the greatest.
Speaker 1: I just sat there like, yo, dude, like you're playing
Speaker 1: Finding Nemo in the club like popping bottles in a
Speaker 1: and you remember the club back in like in two
Speaker 1: thousand and four, like it was sexy back then. Nah,
Speaker 1: he wanted, we were watching Pixar in the Duck Club.
Speaker 2: Are you Duck Club? Are you? Did you read the
Speaker 2: Beautiful Ones yet?
Speaker 1: Yes? I read it and it it's ah man, it
Speaker 1: makes me so sick, like he he wrote that. Normally,
Speaker 1: when people write books, you do it with a collaborator,
Speaker 1: like with me, it was like going back to school,
Speaker 1: like chapter for chapter, Like my guy would say, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: write about the first time he brought a record and
Speaker 1: then I write something and he goes and okay's run
Speaker 1: on sentence d D D no whatever. Or traditionally you
Speaker 1: just do a twenty hour interview with someone and then
Speaker 1: they write the words in your voice. But he wrote
Speaker 1: that book and he only wrote thirty pages, but it
Speaker 1: revealed so much about at least up until the age
Speaker 1: of four, which you know could have been but he
Speaker 1: took a lot of photos, like so there's a lot
Speaker 1: of unanswered questions about his childhood. Uh, Maya Rudolph is
Speaker 1: really going to love this book because there's I guess
Speaker 1: if Instagram were out back then, Prince would have been
Speaker 1: on Instagram instead. Like he just kept photo books of
Speaker 1: all that as he made, like the process of making it,
Speaker 1: like my breakfast, my engineer sleep on the couch again.
Speaker 1: So there's a there's a picture where he Prince is
Speaker 1: driving down Sunset and there's a big giant ad of
Speaker 1: Minnie Riperton's new album Stay in Love, like on Sunset
Speaker 1: Boulevard and Princes waiting at a red light and Flash
Speaker 1: takes the photo. It's a perfect shot, like this would
Speaker 1: have been his iPhone back in nineteen seventy seven. And
Speaker 1: the caption was like this woman could cause a car
Speaker 1: crash and I was like, oh man, my Rudolph is
Speaker 1: really really going to love that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Does he ever know that she loves him that much? Oh? Definitely,
Speaker 2: I think yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Because he talks about even though he only covers the
Speaker 1: first four year of his life, he often jumps to
Speaker 1: modern references. So there's a there is a mention of
Speaker 1: him watching h the Darling Nicky performance. Really that is
Speaker 1: also in my topic, that and Stevie Wonder. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what else.
Speaker 2: Jorn Darling, you remember that my Stevie Wonder story with
Speaker 2: you guys, Remember I opened for you guys in Atlantic
Speaker 2: City I hate you for this man. I open for
Speaker 2: the Roots in Atlantic City and we get there and
Speaker 2: someone forgot James's keyboard.
Speaker 1: James, Yes, we forgot James Boyce's keyboard, so how do.
Speaker 2: You forget an instrument too? We were new you forgot
Speaker 2: his key So we get there and James like, I
Speaker 2: do my set. I came back and I go, James,
Speaker 2: what are you doing? He's like, they forgot my keyboard.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna watch. I go oh. He's like, you
Speaker 2: want to get a tequila? I go sure, So we
Speaker 2: get a drink and then somebody comes back and go, hey,
Speaker 2: do you guys want to meet Stevie Wonder. I go,
Speaker 2: what he's here? He's also playing a different room venue.
Speaker 2: I go, oh, let's go. So we run over to
Speaker 2: see Stevie.
Speaker 1: You leave the Roots and then run cee ceeviehead and
Speaker 1: see Stevie Wonder and I go, uh, what do you uh?
Speaker 2: It was only like maybe it was a meet and
Speaker 2: greet with like ten people.
Speaker 1: He does this every time, and it's ten people, and
Speaker 1: I go, uh.
Speaker 2: He's Stevie's Jimmy Fallon and James like, I'm from the Roots.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, ago. I'm the biggest, biggest fan. I
Speaker 2: start going through all his bits and I start going
Speaker 2: like ebony and uh Marie, and then he starts harmonizing
Speaker 2: with me, yeah, and you dude. So then James starts
Speaker 2: going playing the song on Stevie's other piano, right, So
Speaker 2: then Stevie James is playing piano and I'm harmonizing with Stevie.
Speaker 2: Wonder we sing perfect harmony Ebany and Ivory. Dude jumping
Speaker 2: up and down like what is just happening? Like, all right,
Speaker 2: love you buddy, I talk to you later. We split.
Speaker 2: We were backstage, We throw down a couple more drinks.
Speaker 2: We watch you guys your last song. You finished the set.
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, that was pretty good. What'd you guys do?
Speaker 2: There you go?
Speaker 1: Stevie won day.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to tell you what we did.
Speaker 1: Man, you bastards.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 1: We can go on forever with these stories, but both
Speaker 1: of us have day jobs.
Speaker 2: We got too.
Speaker 1: I know we're just going to finish this conversation on
Speaker 1: the way backward. I really want to thank you for
Speaker 1: helping us and well, first of all, for everything you've
Speaker 1: done for me personally. No, seriously, dog like, that was
Speaker 1: I always joke that not even joke because everyone asked like, well,
Speaker 1: how did you guys manage to do the show? And
Speaker 1: I always tell them that we were prepared in the
Speaker 1: nicest way possible to say no because we didn't want
Speaker 1: to burn a bridge and be like, Okay, when we
Speaker 1: have a new album, ount we can come on said show,
Speaker 1: I said, But then you disarmed us in literally ten minutes,
Speaker 1: which no human being has ever done. I mean, we've
Speaker 1: had the finest of women, the finest of models, the
Speaker 1: biggest of act I think there was a point where
Speaker 1: we were supposed to go fishing with uh George Clooney
Speaker 1: at one point, like that's a typical backstage thing, like George, clue,
Speaker 1: we're going fishing tomorrow whatever, and like we're so stand
Speaker 1: offish as a group, and literally in ten minutes you
Speaker 1: had us doing a human pyramid. That eight is enough
Speaker 1: human pyramid at UCLA, and only because Tarik was on
Speaker 1: the bottom row. Who you know, his clothes are so expensive.
Speaker 1: It's like Treek is actually getting his Japanese denim dirty.
Speaker 1: And I looked at Rich like we're not getting rid
Speaker 1: of this guy anytime soon, and he's like, Nope, you.
Speaker 2: Do it right there.
Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out what you did to disarm the
Speaker 1: roots in ten minutes flat, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this this is the next stage of my life right
Speaker 1: here I'm watching it. But yes, I want to thank
Speaker 1: you for that, and also thank you for helping us
Speaker 1: with our new uh are about to say jump off
Speaker 1: like it's two thousand and eight, our new jump off
Speaker 1: on iHeart Radio.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Thank you by the way for
Speaker 2: changing the whole game. And honestly, it wasn't for you,
Speaker 2: we wouldn't be that wouldn't be where I am. So
Speaker 2: here's do another twenty five years of magic. Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Yes, yo on behalf of the team Supreme. Who's tied
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Speaker 1: font ticgolo uhlaya.
Speaker 2: I love you Liaiah anyway? I heart you.
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Speaker 1: about No, you can forget about it though, No, I
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