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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Clay, Travis and Bucks Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: The guys are off today and as you've probably noticed,

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Speaker 1: they left me in charge. I'm Tutor Dixon and I

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Speaker 1: Clay and Bucks podcast network, So they are trusting me today.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if that's a good idea or not.

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Speaker 1: But the Tutor Dixon Podcast you can catch it every Monday,

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Speaker 1: everything politics, all the things that the guys are covering here.

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Speaker 1: But today we are excited because we are coming to

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Speaker 1: you live from the Wood Radio Studios here in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

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Speaker 1: We've got a great show coming up for you. We

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Speaker 1: are talking one on one with the US Secretary of Education,

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Speaker 1: Ditty trial with Yaku Boyans and we're going to be

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Speaker 1: our cities with Gianno Caldwell.

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Speaker 2: A little bit later.

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Speaker 1: First, I want to introduce a friend that I have

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Speaker 1: with me today, Kyle Olsen. He's actually probably the reason

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Speaker 1: I'm new to politics. I got into this in about

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen when Kyle pulled me out of the manufacturing sector.

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Speaker 1: But he's been doing this for a very long time,

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Speaker 1: so he's kind of my political sense. Say so he's

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Speaker 1: here with me today, Kyle, say hello, thank you and thanks.

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Speaker 3: For having me.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 5: What an honor it is to be with you today

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Speaker 5: and for including me. To me, this time is hollowed ground.

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Speaker 5: Noon to three was learning time when I was growing up.

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Speaker 5: I remember watching Rush Limbaugh late at night on Fox News.

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Speaker 5: I was in high school in the mid nineteen nineties.

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Speaker 5: In my youth, pastor Wally Coots, who is now pastor

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Speaker 5: in Alligan, Michigan, would take me out to lunch sometimes

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Speaker 5: and for that eight minute drive he'd have Rush Limbaugh

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Speaker 5: it was like water in the desert. And of course

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Speaker 5: that was a time when there was no internet archive,

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Speaker 5: you didn't hear it between and noon and three, you

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Speaker 5: missed it. But he impacted our generation and I believe

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Speaker 5: paved the way for two terms of President Donald Trump.

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Speaker 5: So it's a thrill for me to be here and

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Speaker 5: thank you to Clay and Buck for giving both of

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Speaker 5: us this opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly, that is what Kyle's upbringing is what

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Speaker 1: brought me here. And we think every day, what would

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Speaker 1: Rush Limbaugh think about what is happening right now? And

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Speaker 1: I say that because we're watching the Democrat Party in

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Speaker 1: total chaos. They have this Mandami situation in New York.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to figure out exactly where they stand on it.

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Speaker 1: You've had a lot of people who have come out

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Speaker 1: I think what's interesting in what we're seeing with this

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's been. He made it through the primary. Generally

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Speaker 2: But this is very unique.

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Speaker 1: He's a socialist. He's come out and said he is

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Speaker 1: a socialist. Proud yeah, proudly a socialist. The New York Times.

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Speaker 5: But you've got this situation where I would I don't

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Speaker 5: communities where socialism is not embraced well not yet, not.

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Speaker 1: Yet, And that's they're not ready yet to go there.

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Speaker 1: But the others, the leaders of their parties are embracing this.

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Speaker 1: Mamdannie or whatever his name is, I think is something

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Speaker 2: And the reason that.

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Speaker 1: This is is because this is a kid who came

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Speaker 1: I keep saying that because he's young. He graduated in

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Speaker 5: Sure, and that's what happens is you've got he's involved

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Speaker 5: he is, he is, he's embracing it in a very

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Speaker 1: And yeah, let's listen to his own words. We've got

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Speaker 4: The struggle for Palestinian liberation was at the core of

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Speaker 5: Is the core me So what does that mean? What

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Speaker 5: It's it's to eliminate Israel. And so when he said.

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Speaker 2: So votreer post October seventh, I.

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Speaker 1: Either one is scary, but post just two weeks after that,

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Speaker 1: he is out there and he's screaming at Senator Jillibrand,

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Speaker 2: This is cut two.

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Speaker 3: The last thing.

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Speaker 2: This is an activist.

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Speaker 5: And so so think about the situation that New York

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Speaker 3: You have this guy.

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Speaker 5: He's he literally says, the last thing I have to

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Speaker 5: the last thing I have to say is one more chant.

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Speaker 5: And then he's demanding a ceasefire. Now, don't forget, as

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Speaker 1: But it's the people behind him that make me nervous,

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Speaker 1: because that is not I will say again, this is

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Speaker 1: well funded. I mean people have said, you go one

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Speaker 1: Someone is providing this. This is a well funded organization.

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Speaker 1: He has been groomed for this four years from this

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Speaker 1: chants which are death to Israel, death to America. You

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Speaker 1: cannot tell me that's not what this means. And two

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Speaker 1: He also said, has this statement out there globalize the Intifada,

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Speaker 1: and he's been asked multiple times. He was asked three

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Speaker 2: And he said he won't. He won't answer the question.

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Speaker 2: He says he doesn't condemn condemned speech.

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Speaker 2: We want to hear.

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Speaker 1: This is like we're going into the fourth of July,

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Speaker 1: this is the beginning. We're headed into America fifty. We

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Speaker 1: for the I mean, you can call in for anything,

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Speaker 1: but we want to hear about America because we're headed

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Speaker 1: into the greatest celebration of America you've ever seen. It's

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Speaker 1: They are busting these people places. All these people aren't

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Speaker 5: The Biden administration. What just gets me is you go

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Clan Bucks Show. If you're just

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Speaker 1: joining us, I'm Tutor Dixon. I'm filling in for Clan

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Speaker 1: Buck while they're off celebrating America.

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Speaker 2: This week.

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Speaker 1: I'm broadcasting live from the Wood Radio Studios here in

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Speaker 1: beautiful Grand Repids, Michigan. I have the United States Secretary

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Speaker 1: of Education, Linda McMahon back with me today to talk

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Speaker 1: about one of those promises made, promises kept.

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Speaker 2: Secretary. Welcome back, Thank.

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Speaker 4: You, Tutor. It's a pleasure to be with you again today.

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Speaker 1: Well, I am so excited about why you're here, because

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Speaker 1: you have a big announcement.

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Speaker 2: Just last night you announced that you.

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Speaker 1: Have something happening with the University of Pennsylvania, and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to let you talk about it.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm very excited and happy to announce what I

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Speaker 4: think is is really a landmark case and a victory

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Speaker 4: for the president for the Trump administration because he announced

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Speaker 4: you know, or or he talked about it when he

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Speaker 4: was campaigning, how unfair he thought it was that men

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Speaker 4: participated in women's towards. So one of the first things

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Speaker 4: he did early February when he came into office, she

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Speaker 4: was to sign this executive order about men not being

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Speaker 4: able to play in women's towards. And shortly thereafter a

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Speaker 4: day or two, I can say that the Office of

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Speaker 4: Civil Rights, he with the Department of Education, took up

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Speaker 4: that mantle and an investigated the University of Pennsylvania. Now

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Speaker 4: that had been on the docket, if you will, during

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Speaker 4: the Biden administration, but the Biden administration didn't do anything

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Speaker 4: about it. They just kind of ignored it. But we

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Speaker 4: decided that this was something we absolutely should take up.

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Speaker 4: This was the case if you recall where Riley Gains

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Speaker 4: was competing against Leah Thomas in swimming at the University

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Speaker 4: of Pennsylvania and tied with Leah in their race, and

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Speaker 4: Riley left without a trophy, But she competed against a

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Speaker 4: man that she should have gotten. If it had been

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Speaker 4: a woman, she would have been far ahead in that race.

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Speaker 4: So that really became a landmark case for discussion in

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Speaker 4: the country. It's one that we focused then on with

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Speaker 4: the University of Pennsylvania and then Paula Scanlon, who also

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Speaker 4: was on the swimming team and testified before Congress. You

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Speaker 4: know that the women on the team were actually given

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Speaker 4: psychological counseling on how to change in their intimate spaces

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Speaker 4: in locker rooms in front of men.

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Speaker 2: That is shocking, is that was shocking.

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Speaker 4: It is clearly unfair, It flies in the face of

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Speaker 4: common sense, and it is a clear violation of Title nine.

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Speaker 4: And so our investigation and through our negotiations back and

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Speaker 4: forth with the University of Pennsylvania, they signed the resolution

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Speaker 4: and now men will not compete in women's sports at

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Speaker 4: the University of Pennsylvania. They have also agreed to send

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Speaker 4: a letter of apology to the women to run the

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Speaker 4: sports teams that men played against. You know, they've also

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Speaker 4: agreed that tom they're going to send a notification to

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Speaker 4: any of the people that they deal with, contractors or

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Speaker 4: whatever that this is how the University of Pennsylvania is

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Speaker 4: going to do business. So I am really very very

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Speaker 4: pleased with this outcome, and it's a great victory for

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Speaker 4: women to compete against women in their sports. You know,

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Speaker 4: women and girls fought so hard for Title nine. To

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Speaker 4: be able to have access to swarts and to be

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Speaker 4: able to have access to the comparable training rooms, et cetera,

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Speaker 4: and then to have it kind of yanked out from

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Speaker 4: under them by this interpretation of sideleline is just wrong.

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Speaker 4: And I'm very happy you know where we are today.

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Speaker 1: Well, And Madam Secretary, I just want to say that

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Speaker 1: as we saw Donald Trump building his cabinet, I knew

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Speaker 1: that he had picked the right person when he put

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Speaker 1: you in charge of the Department of ED, because I

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Speaker 1: knew you would be a champion for GS. I know

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Speaker 1: what sports mean to you, and I know what fairness

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Speaker 1: means to you. And as you were just talking about

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Speaker 1: this and you're saying these girls underwent psychological testing, I mean, really,

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Speaker 1: what we're talking about is a university behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: that was using psychological techniques to almost brainwash these women

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Speaker 1: into saying this is acceptable. You need to accept this

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Speaker 1: and put yourself aside. This is a clear violation of

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Speaker 1: Title nine. And this is just the beginning. But I

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Speaker 1: am so impressed that here we are, just really a

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Speaker 1: few months into this administration and you have already been

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Speaker 1: able to accomplish this. This announcement to me.

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Speaker 2: Is very big. I'm a mother of four girls. To me,

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Speaker 2: this is a huge announcement coming out of the Department

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Speaker 2: of Ed.

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Speaker 4: Well, it certainly is. And if Donald Trump had not

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Speaker 4: been elected president, you would not see this action being taken.

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Speaker 4: But as I said, he campaigned on this, he was

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Speaker 4: true to his word, and when he had the signing

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Speaker 4: of this executive order and East Room in the White House,

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Speaker 4: he was surrounded by girls and women of all ages,

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Speaker 4: and he was very proud so to sign this executive order.

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Speaker 4: And I'm really pleased with the investigations that we have

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Speaker 4: undertaken and that the University of Pennsylvania. Hopefully this settlement

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Speaker 4: and this agreement will become kind of the prototype for

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Speaker 4: the universities to come on board and to make sure

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Speaker 4: that they are adhering or you know, we will continue

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Speaker 4: investigating other universities. It's just like we did Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: Is this connected to federal funding? Why have they agreed

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Speaker 1: to this? Because to me, when I look at this

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Speaker 1: and I say they're going to restore all records, titles,

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Speaker 1: and any recognition to female athletes that were taken from

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Speaker 1: them by male athletes, that is something I think all

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Speaker 1: of us thought. No matter what happens, the records are

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Speaker 1: permanently damaged. And how can any woman compete against the

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Speaker 1: past when the past is not accurate? And yet you

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Speaker 1: have accomplished this, you will restore that in this agreement.

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Speaker 2: How did you get them to agree to this?

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Speaker 4: Well, certainly the big club is federal funding, and there

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Speaker 4: was approximate one hundred and seventy five million dollars at STAY.

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Speaker 4: And so now that funding, of which came you know,

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Speaker 4: from a couple of different agencies other than the Department

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Speaker 4: of Education, you know, will be restored. Predominant amount of

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Speaker 4: it was from AHHS. So we're we're happy that that

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Speaker 4: funding will be restored. But also we are saying we

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Speaker 4: mean business, and the federal government does have the right

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Speaker 4: to withhold funding if you're not in compliance, and we

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Speaker 4: will not take any of those tools off the table.

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Speaker 1: I think that's something that we need to make sure

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Speaker 1: people understand because there will be criticism, Oh, this is

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Speaker 1: some sort of extortion.

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Speaker 2: You only get this money.

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Speaker 1: If you do this. This is protecting women. I mean

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Speaker 1: Title nine has been in effect since the seventies, and

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Speaker 1: yet we are still here today in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: fighting for it and I want to be clear. This

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Speaker 1: is if you cannot comply with law, you cannot have

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Speaker 1: the taxpayers money.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that correct?

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Speaker 9: Correct?

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Speaker 4: We definitely are very serious about enforcing Title nine. It

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Speaker 4: is the law. And girls shouldn't have to be competing

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Speaker 4: in sports in which they are afraid they're going to

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Speaker 4: be hurt or they know that it's not a level

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Speaker 4: playing field. Boys are bigger and stronger and faster, and

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Speaker 4: they have an unfair advantage. And also, you know, they

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Speaker 4: need to feel safe in the sports that they're competing against,

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Speaker 4: not worried are they going to get their face smashed

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Speaker 4: by volleyball or you know that other things are going

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Speaker 4: to be happening to them. I mean, Stephanie Turner took

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Speaker 4: a knee rather than participate in her fencing competition. She

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Speaker 4: was going to be competing against a boy, and she

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Speaker 4: knew that was not fair, and she was afraid and

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Speaker 4: she took a knee. Women and girls should not be

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Speaker 4: put in those positions. We fought so hard with Title nine,

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Speaker 4: you know, to gain access to women's sports and a

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Speaker 4: fair playing field and and equal training facilities, and now

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Speaker 4: to just have that kind of yanked away or this

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Speaker 4: interpretation is wrong. The courts have ruled that it's wrong,

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Speaker 4: and the Title nine should be interpreted as Britain that

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Speaker 4: women have access to their sorts, facilities, et cetera. And

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Speaker 4: it's based on sex.

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Speaker 1: So this is kind of a landmark agreement that you

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Speaker 1: have with the University of Pennsylvania. I mean, we're even

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Speaker 1: talking about they now have to accept biology based definitions

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Speaker 1: for the words male and female.

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Speaker 2: To me, that is groundbreaking.

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Speaker 1: And I say that knowing that ten years ago that

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Speaker 1: would be a ridiculous statement, but that's where we are today.

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Speaker 1: But I say that also knowing that this is one

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Speaker 1: school of many. So how does the Department of Ed

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Speaker 1: tackle the entire country that has gone woke and has

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Speaker 1: taken away sports from so many women and trophies from

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Speaker 1: so many women.

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Speaker 4: Well, hopefully this landmark with the University of Pennsylvania is

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Speaker 4: going to be the roadmap for other universities to follow.

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Speaker 4: And they don't know we're serious because there is a

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Speaker 4: fair amount of federal money for many of these universities.

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Speaker 4: And if they are receiving federal funding, then they have

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Speaker 4: to know that that funding can be frozen or taken

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Speaker 4: away if they are not in compliance with the law.

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Speaker 1: What was it like when you were able to sit

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Speaker 1: down with some of these female athletes like Riley Gaines

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Speaker 1: and say, this is what's going to happen. You're going

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Speaker 1: to be there alongside us when we make this announcement.

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Speaker 1: Riley has fought so hard for this. I know that

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Speaker 1: the other women that were there as well, Paula has

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Speaker 1: also fought so hard for this.

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Speaker 2: What was their reaction to this?

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Speaker 4: Well, I know that they are thrilled to know that

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Speaker 4: finally action has been taken and that their messaging has

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Speaker 4: not gone in vain. All of the miles they've traveled,

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Speaker 4: all the interviews that they have done, all of the

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Speaker 4: counseling that they have done to young women and to

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Speaker 4: girls has not been in vain, and that they now

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Speaker 4: have some not just win that they're back, they certainly

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Speaker 4: have been confirmed that they were on the right track

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Speaker 4: and that their motives and their actions are justified.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, so, I just want to reiterate this is a

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Speaker 1: landmark agreement that we're announcing today. This is just fresh

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Speaker 1: off of the press. Really, this is just happening, breaking news.

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Speaker 1: The University of Pennsylvania will restore all records, titles, and

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Speaker 1: recognitions to female athletes. They will issue a public statement

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Speaker 1: that says they will comply with Title nine and that

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Speaker 1: it will be specifically to they won't allow men to

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Speaker 1: compete in women's sports. They will also adopt biology based

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Speaker 1: definitions for the words male and female. They will rescind

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Speaker 1: all guidance that violates our air or is inconsistent with

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Speaker 1: Title nine, and they will send personalized apology letters to

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Speaker 1: each swim, each female swimmer who was impacted by this.

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Speaker 1: Secretary McMahon, you did this. You and President Trump, I

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Speaker 1: know you will keep fighting. This is a huge moment

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Speaker 1: for women across the country, but it's a huge moment

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Speaker 1: for this administration. I just want to close getting your

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Speaker 1: feelings on what it's like to be a part of

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Speaker 1: this and stand next to the president in such an

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Speaker 1: important moment.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's incredibly exciting to be able to do exactly

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Speaker 4: what he said he was going to do. And I

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Speaker 4: want to commend the Department of Education and our Office

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Speaker 4: of Civil Rights for working so hard on this investigation

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Speaker 4: and for developing this agreement with the University of Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, we cannot be more thrilled. I'm so glad that

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Speaker 1: you came on today to share it with us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Secretary Linda McMahon, Thank you. Promise has made, promises kept.

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Speaker 1: The Wood Radio Studios right here, alive in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

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Speaker 1: I have Kyle Olsen with me. He is from the

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Speaker 1: Midwesterner dot News. You should check it out. He runs

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Speaker 1: writes great stories every day. Right now, I want to

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Speaker 1: get into what's happening with the Big Beautiful Bill, which

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Speaker 1: seems to be kind of a pause at the moment,

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Speaker 1: because we're hearing out of Washington that we've got Thomas

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Speaker 1: Massey who seems to like to be a flying the ointment.

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Speaker 1: But you don't necessarily always disagree with him because he's

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Speaker 1: complaining about the debt ceiling, and I can understand he

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to keep spending. But right now he supposedly

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Speaker 1: is out there saying that he has a vote block

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Speaker 1: of ten people, so he's convinced ten Republicans to vote. Know,

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Speaker 1: but we're here that there is negotiations in a White

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Speaker 1: House as we speak. Obviously we know the art of

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Speaker 1: the deal. We know this president is great at closing deals.

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Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see what.

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Speaker 1: Happens in the next few hours if they're gonna wear

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Speaker 1: people down and people will come out and vote for this.

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Speaker 5: Kyle right, And you've got so basically what's happening is

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Speaker 5: you have a very narrow majority in the House of Representatives,

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Speaker 5: and the block that Massey says he has ten, I

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Speaker 5: mean that unless you've got Democrats voting for this, that

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Speaker 5: sinks the bill. Yeah, And so that's why I think,

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Speaker 5: you know, sort of bigger picture here, that's why it's

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Speaker 5: so important that the Republicans maintain and expand their majority

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Speaker 5: in the House because President Trump's agenda if they don't

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Speaker 5: keep the House, it's his agenda is for his last

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Speaker 5: two years is gets very complicated.

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Speaker 2: And all the.

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Speaker 1: Work that we've done in the last four years to

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Speaker 1: get President Trump back into the White House. You know

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Speaker 1: the maloney that we went through in twenty twenty, and

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Speaker 1: we just talked about what we had John Solomon on

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Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty election from from China.

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Speaker 2: John Solomon was telling us.

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Speaker 1: That and so we know that now we know we

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Speaker 1: fought so hard to get him another four years, the

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Speaker 1: run for other offices, and then ultimately Donald Trump doesn't

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Speaker 1: actually get those last two years. If we have to

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Speaker 1: go through this impeachment, Bologney and all that crap again,

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Speaker 1: that will be a nightmare.

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Speaker 2: But you do have You do have a lot of

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Speaker 2: controversy over this bill.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about Elon Musker a minute, because

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Speaker 2: He doesn't like it.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't again, he doesn't like the you have a

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Speaker 2: I think what he's finding out.

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Speaker 1: Is something that many of us who have had these

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Speaker 1: altruistic feelings about government get into the machine and we

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Speaker 1: see how the sausage is made, and you go, this

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Speaker 1: is not as great as you thought it was. You've

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Speaker 1: So you've got all of these people that have to

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Speaker 1: come together and make a decision on this bill. But

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Speaker 1: you have different You've got people from urban places, you've

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Speaker 1: Everybody wants to get their piece of the pie into

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Speaker 1: this bill. Now we've had people say we should we

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Speaker 2: We'd be it'll be a bill.

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Speaker 3: Every day, right right.

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Speaker 5: And so you've got the situation where the President apparently

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Speaker 5: You know, we just saw the other day Don Bacon,

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Speaker 5: going to be retiring. Why does that matter because his

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Speaker 5: Kamala Harris fifty four to forty five. In twenty twenty

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Speaker 5: Joe Biden won that district. That's going to be a

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Speaker 5: where we're sitting, John James, who represents McComb County, which

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Speaker 5: but John James has decided to leave the House and

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Speaker 5: that Republicans are going to have to spend probably millions

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Speaker 5: party in power, which of course is the Republicans, lose

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Speaker 5: seats in the midterm. So they've got history against them.

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Speaker 5: They've got Republicans who are deciding to retire or they're

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Speaker 3: It's a very.

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Speaker 5: Difficult situation for Republicans and in every single one of

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Speaker 5: these matters, because I think the Democrats have been very

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Speaker 5: clear if they get the majority, they're going to do

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Speaker 5: impeachment all over again.

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Speaker 1: Of course it will be if they get the majority,

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Speaker 1: we will be in a world of hurt. And so

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Speaker 1: I think that is why people are frustrated with what

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk is putting out, because he's saying that he's

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Speaker 1: going to primary anybody who votes for this bill. He's

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Speaker 1: going to primary them. I mean, obviously he has endless money,

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Speaker 1: but is that really worth it?

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Speaker 2: Would you really go to that extreme? Senator Marshall I

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Speaker 2: think was kind of funny. This is cut eleven.

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Speaker 1: They were asking him, well, what do you think about

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Speaker 1: what Elon Musk is saying? And this, I think is

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Speaker 1: the answer to your concerns. Kyle.

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Speaker 2: Here is what he had to say.

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Speaker 7: Oh, look, I'll take President Trump's endorsement over Elon's any

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Speaker 7: tay you the week back home, Look, we need to

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Speaker 7: pass this bill because the episode phil President Trump's agenda.

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Speaker 7: His priorities were to.

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Speaker 3: Secure the board, to bring back cross.

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Speaker 7: Parity and security. I think if we do those things,

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Speaker 7: if we bring back cross purred and security, we're going

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Speaker 7: to get re elected. Elon's continuing his little spat. We're

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Speaker 7: ignoring him. Let's get this feel across the finish line.

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Speaker 2: They're ignoring him. They want to move on, move on.

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Speaker 1: President Trump has the most impressive team in history. I mean,

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Speaker 1: people have said this is a historic comeback. Nobody has

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Speaker 1: done what he did, what Susie Wilds did, what James

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Speaker 1: Blair did, what Chris Lasavita did. These are people who

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Speaker 1: are not going to just allow this to get mucked

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Speaker 1: up in the midterms to have Elon Musk go in

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Speaker 1: and primary people. They're going to make sure that Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump is heavily involved, and like you just heard the

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Speaker 1: Senator say, his endorsement means so much because.

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Speaker 2: We've seen this in Michigan. There is a faction of

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Speaker 2: people who would like to kill America first. And I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about Republicans who would like to kill America first.

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Speaker 2: But JA, James Blair, Susie Wiles, Chris los Avida, they

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Speaker 2: are not going to let that happen to Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: They're going to have JD. Vance involved, They're going to

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Speaker 2: have Donald Trump involved. They are going to be helping

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Speaker 2: to make sure that he has that majority, that his

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Speaker 2: policies are enacted, that he gets those last two years

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Speaker 2: to do what he so desperately needs to do to

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Speaker 2: make sure we say this country right.

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Speaker 5: And so this it's not just about this bill. There's

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Speaker 5: a much bigger thing going on where it's the entire

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Speaker 5: Trump agenda. And if they're willing to kill the whole

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Speaker 5: Trump agenda because of one bill, well, then the last

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Speaker 5: two the last two years of the of the Trump

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Speaker 5: administration is going to be investigations, subpoena's, court hearings, and

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Speaker 5: then ultimately impeachment.

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Speaker 1: Well it's interesting if you are thinking about not voting

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Speaker 1: for this bill.

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Speaker 2: And you can hear me right now.

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Speaker 1: You should know that Donald Trump is like the most

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Speaker 1: popular president in history right now, because we've got this

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Speaker 1: cut ten where they talk about CNN is talking about

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Speaker 1: how people feel about Donald Trump. So all of you

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Speaker 1: out there that are just sitting in your offices waiting

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Speaker 1: to go in there and vote, the American people are

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Speaker 1: with Trump.

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Speaker 2: So listen to this. Here it is.

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Speaker 9: And get this. Donald Trump beats Reagan when it comes

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Speaker 9: to the strongly approved five months. And of course Reagan

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Speaker 9: was coming off dot high after that assassination attempt. So

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Speaker 9: the bottom line is Donald Trump is making history with

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Speaker 9: the Republican base. He is more beloved by this Republican

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Speaker 6: And it is history making.

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Speaker 2: It is history making. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So if you're sitting there on the fence, if you

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Speaker 1: were one of those Republicans saying I don't think I

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Speaker 1: want to enact Donald Trump's agenda, that the American people

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Speaker 1: are making history with their love for President Trump right now,

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Speaker 1: So get off your duff and make the right decision.

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Speaker 5: And he was during the campaign, he was very clear

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of politicians that sort of hide what

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Speaker 5: they want to do. He was very clear about deportations,

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Speaker 5: securing the border, everything else. He is enacting his agenda,

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Speaker 5: and there's people standing in his way, and he's identifying

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Speaker 5: those people that are standing in his way. And again,

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Speaker 5: this is much bigger than just this bill. He's got

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Speaker 5: a whole agenda that he wants to do over the

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Speaker 5: next three and a half years.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so buckle up. When we were there, we were

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Speaker 2: actually there at the White.

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Speaker 1: House on the first two hundred days when we were

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Speaker 1: celebrating the one hundred days, and I remember one of

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Speaker 1: the women that work there, she looked at me. I said,

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Speaker 1: how's it going, And she was like, I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: hoping we slow down a little bit. He goes so fast,

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Speaker 1: he's got so much going on. I'm hoping now that

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Speaker 1: it's been one hundred days, we can take a breath.

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Speaker 1: And I just laughed and looked at her and I

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Speaker 1: was like, no, you're never This man never slows down.

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Speaker 1: You are never taking a breath. President Trump keeps winning.

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Speaker 1: This week, he is winning. The border crossings, as we said,

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Speaker 1: almost non existent. The Senate passed the big beautiful bill.

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Speaker 1: Now We're waiting for all of these Republicans. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: don't make this mistake. Make sure you get this passed.

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Speaker 1: You guys want to go celebrate America. Go celebrate America

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Speaker 1: after you pass this bill. Egg prices are down, gas

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Speaker 1: prices are down. CBS is settling over what they did

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Speaker 1: to the President. It's all good for President Trump. And

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Speaker 1: don't forget. At the end of this hour, we want

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