1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is quick coming off the edge. 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Henss and I'm joined by a 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler and Chris Westling. 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: What up, boys? Hey? Dan? How are you, buddy? Great? 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: Our boss the boss, not Bruce Springsteen, but Greg Rosenthal 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: is not here. He's tending to some boss duties. Sometimes 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: when you're the boss, you can't be in on the 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: fund and I do feel for him because it was 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: like it was like watching, you know, the sad kid 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: left behind as we went up the stairs. I couldn't 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: join us, or as what happens in Mark's life when 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: it ranged you leave your sixteen kids inside and your 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: other one outside. Oh yeah, that was your weird analogy 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: from our last part. Yeah, listen, I have been dealing 16 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: with a some version of a head cold, and many 17 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: of the statements that I made over the past couple 18 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: of shows, dating to even before Dan returned, are questionable. Alright, Well, 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: we have a great show today, and you know it's 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: an exciting show because, uh, we are going to bring 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,279 Speaker 1: back one of our favorite games and it is called 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: Go Get My lunch. Uh. That last part was supposed 23 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: to be implied. Oh you know, I'm used to Gregg 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: saying that to me as well, so that kind of 25 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: threw me off a little. I'm a little off balance 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: right now without Greg on the right. So but we're 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: just gonna stay focused. We're bringing back the game Go 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: Get My Lunch. That's sorry, sorry, sorry, uh. And we're 29 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: going to uh, you know, get all our all our 30 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: new wagers back and forth with each other about proposition propositions, 31 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: thank you, proposition propositions about what will happen in season. 32 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: We decided we could not move forward with Go Get 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: My Lunch until we cleared everything, cleared the decks of 34 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: previous sandwich wagers, excuse me, propositions, And now we have 35 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: and we can move forward. I also am not certain 36 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: that I'm comfortable with going to local stores and dropping 37 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: like forty bucks on buying sandwiches for anyone, including West, 38 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: when he has something that is the appetizer that needs 39 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: to be eaten before you start having high octane sandwich 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: is paid for you. That's a fair point by you, Mark, 41 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: And I believe I was guessing that today's edition of 42 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: Go Get My Lunch will implied, Oh sorry, uh, well, 43 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: we won't collect on those until the end of the year, right, 44 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: because most of what will be propositioning in most cases 45 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: will be an end of the year scenario. Correct. And 46 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: by the way, just an update on the softball pants front. 47 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 1: I have a connection in Los Angeles one of the 48 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: most popular eateries I will not name it at this point, 49 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: one of the most popular eateries and the and the 50 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: chef behind this popular restaurant in West l A. I 51 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: have been in contact with his people. He is interested 52 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: in coming up with a special treat including that would 53 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: include the nylon, the elastic, the zipper, the other uh 54 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: composite parts that would be worked into a dish for 55 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: Chris Westling to eat. So we have one of the 56 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: top chefs in Los Angeles in play right now. I 57 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 1: will have to meet with him in like some shadowy 58 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: garage to hand over the pants. Yeah, there would obviously 59 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: at some point it would have to get into his possession. 60 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: So that's coming up. But before we get into the sandwiches, 61 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: before the lunch propositions, we're gonna check in with the 62 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: man behind the glass. Larry is looking smooth as always, 63 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: Mr t Date what's going on, fellas? Like you guys 64 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: doing doing great? How are you doing well? Doing well? 65 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's been been a fun week and looking 66 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: aheads at Thursday night game, the first Thursday Night game 67 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: of the year, Mark, featuring two teams, one being the 68 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens and the other the Pittsburgh Steelers, Chris wesleyans 69 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: team certainly not your team, Mark, They are in my world. 70 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: They're part of my job to report on them. Do 71 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: I pine for them and think about them? Did they 72 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: ruin my Sunday? Yes? They did? You know? Despite that 73 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: second have comeback. I came out of Week one liking 74 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: the Steelers even more. They're even more exciting to watch 75 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: than I thought they would. Of course you did, and 76 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: I got. I Usually usually, having worked with Mark, this 77 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: is our fifth season together, I'm used to seeing Mark 78 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: immediately crest falling about the Browns. But Sunday was different 79 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: because we got crestfallen Mark for the first half, quietly 80 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: excited Mark into the third, into the fourth quarter, and 81 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: then crestfallen Mark again. So we got at the end 82 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: of the game and excited. Chris leaning over my cube, 83 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: going are the Steelers kicking a winning it's like, are 84 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: you kidding me? Anyway? T D real quick? Yes, the 85 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: Steelers were fun to watch, but on on this week's 86 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: d DFP, Damna Sack took an overboard and compared Levon 87 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: Bell to Lashaw McCoy that that doesn't make any sense. 88 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: Can I just make one at tutorial suggestion? When do 89 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: you play the damn shick come out player? We have 90 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: to hear the whole thing. Come on, what's that? What's 91 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: up with that? That sends it over the time? Oh? 92 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: That was iconic? Um anyway? So yes, yeah, well the 93 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: shame report wasn't the check report? Is that what it 94 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: was from? No? This is on the podcast The Handsome 95 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: Handles on the podcast Dave has a Podcast. I heard 96 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: DJ said him straight and compared him to Deuce McAlister instead, 97 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: which does make sense. Yeah, well that that almost seems 98 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: to be right. I don't know. I mean, it's much 99 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: more accurate obviously than Shandy McCoy. We're talking early career 100 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: Deuce McCalister, when he ran for yards one year and 101 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: I had another sixty catches for six d He was 102 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: a dude for a while there, Alright, Damna Scheck down 103 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: in the news room eating a salad getting assassinated up here. 104 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't wait, he what what's the soup? Fella? If 105 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: you hear that, Dave, I want my free soup today. 106 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: All right, let's do the news. Is that because Cam 107 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: Newton's coming back? Because of Cam, but because Jim Harbor 108 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: came out this week and spoke about his quarterback and 109 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: said he reminds him of es since she says he 110 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: reminds him of Superman Superman like you know, And I 111 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: was like, you know what you had me thinking of? 112 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: You know me, I'm a big superhero movie fan. I'm 113 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: a big Score fan like you know. Well, let's let's 114 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: do a little throwback here. Let's play a little original 115 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: Superman the area producer a big Score fan, that's TV. 116 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna don't put him in a box never. All right, 117 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: let's get into some news and we'll start with the 118 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: big news in the NFL. Obviously not on the field, 119 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: Ray Rice. Since we've been gone, Ray Rice has been 120 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: not only released by the Ravens, but suspended by the NFL. 121 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: And definitely this after TMZ released video footage inside the 122 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: elevator of Rice striking and knocking out his then fiancee. Uh. 123 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: This has led to Ray Rice being out of the 124 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: NFL now, and obviously it's become a huge story. Everyone 125 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: has an opinion on it. For better or worse. Ray 126 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: Rice no longer with the Baltimore Ravens. I was told, 127 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: uh this week that I I am free to speak 128 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: my mind on this issue and a shadowy league figure 129 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: told me this, And the same shadow league figure told 130 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: me he will enjoy hearing that as my last podcast 131 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: for the company. Yeah, it's a it's a listen. Everybody 132 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: knows the deal. We work for the NFL, and this 133 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: is a a touchy situation with the league that's happening. 134 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: It's unfolding right now as we speak. The NFL is 135 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: dealing with what's really a difficult situation. It's been Uh, 136 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: the league has gotten tons of criticism over it. But 137 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: I guess the the takeaway with Ray Rice now is 138 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: that he's out of the league. The league maybe took 139 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: longer to act than people expected it to were wanted 140 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: it to, But he is out of the league. So 141 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: what what's next? Ray Rice? Do we see him in 142 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: the NFL again? I can't imagine. We don't. I mean, 143 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: it always seems like when Ben Roethlisberger's going through this 144 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: kind of stuff and Michael Vick's going through this kind 145 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: of stuff, everybody comes out and says, I can't imagine 146 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: these guys ever playing in the NFL again, And I 147 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: just everybody's wound up right now. But as you know, 148 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: as time goes by, this people will want to give 149 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: him another chance. I mean, I think Chris speaks well 150 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: and that it's that the NFL has been a place 151 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: of second chances for a lot of people that we 152 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: thought we'll never see them again, and so we'll have 153 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: to wait and uh find out how it goes down. 154 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: It's a situation where had Rice's original two games suspension 155 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: had been held up, he would have been back with 156 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: a team on Friday after Thursday's game. Instead, where left 157 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: with the situation where the backfield is now a huge 158 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: question mark. It was even a question mark with Rice 159 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: there after he had what was really a terrible year 160 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: last year. He looked better this summer, so there was 161 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: some optimism that he would maybe return to form, But 162 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: right now, what do we have back there? Justin Forsette, 163 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: Bernard Pierce, Bernard Pierce and Bernard Pierce who got fumbled 164 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: and really seems to be creeping deeper and deeper into 165 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: a doghouse. So do we Threnzo Taliaferro Talia Faro is 166 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: a guy that people are excited about. I don't know. 167 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they went out and got someone. 168 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: Do you think they'll stick with the in house options 169 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: or I do? And I think? Uh. It seemed like 170 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: after the game John Harball said, look, we don't accept fumbling, 171 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: and then two days later he said, we're not gonna 172 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: bury Bernard Pierce. He's he's a big part of our backfield. 173 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: And I still think Pierce is the favorite to end 174 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: up leading this backfield and rushing for set. Might get 175 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: to start Thursday night because he deserves it after the 176 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: first game. All right, let's move on the indian Indianapolis Colts. 177 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: Another suspension. Robert Mathis had been suspended four games UH 178 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: for violating the NFL's abuse policy on performance and enhancing drugs. 179 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: Now he's out for the year. While training on his 180 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: own in Atlanta, he blew as Achilles tendon, So the 181 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: league's sack leader last year at nineteen and a half 182 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: will not be coming back. He's done for the season 183 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: and at age thirty three, we don't know what we're 184 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: gonna get from Robert Mathis going forward. It's a devastating loss. 185 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: And Chuck Pagano came out and said that that's devastating 186 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: for Robert, for the team, for the organization, and it is. 187 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: He was their only difference maker on defense. He he 188 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: was in the Defensive Player of the Year conversation last year. 189 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: I think he might have finished second, and he deserved it. 190 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: He played that well. This is a team right now 191 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: that cannot protect it's quarterback and it can't get to 192 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: opposing quarterbacks. And we've looked at them all off season 193 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: as this shoe in in the a f C South, 194 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: because it's hard to pick who else could possibly overtake him, 195 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: but with Andrew Luck, it's hard. It's hard to say 196 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: they won't be there at the end. But there are 197 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: a lot of missing pieces to the Indianapolis Colts. They're 198 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: not a really really team that you can look at 199 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: and say this has a deep January run to it, 200 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: which ahead they drafted Bjorn Werner in the first round 201 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: two years ago to be the sky and he hasn't 202 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: been that guy yet. So it's either now or never 203 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: for this guy. And I think it should be said 204 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: that Ryan Grigson now has had three seasons or this 205 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: is the third season for him to build a team 206 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: around Andrew Luck. I know it basically started from scratch initially, 207 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: but for us to be having the same conversation now like, oh, well, 208 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: the a f C South is weak, but you can't 209 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: discount Andrew Luck. It's putting a lot on Andrew Luck, 210 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: basically asking him for the third straight year to basically 211 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: put the team on his back just to get to 212 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I don't think any of us see 213 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: him as see the Colts as a Super Bowl contender 214 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: right now as presently come. Here's the problem. If they 215 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: want a running game that often comes because of Andrew 216 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: Luck taking off with the ball, the guy's a better 217 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: runner than than Trent Richardson is right now. I'm not 218 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: even trying to be snarky. Heat statistically last season finishes 219 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: a better runner than Trent Richardson. I mean, is there 220 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: a a lot a loss that is this for the 221 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: A f For a f C contenders, take one Jenga 222 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: piece out of the defense. He's got to be up 223 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: there in terms of Jenga pieces for any of these 224 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: AFC teams that are playoff vocals. Yeah, he might be 225 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: at the top. I don't know if they have any 226 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: other pieces in that Jenga Tower's just lucky. That's a 227 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: crappy Jenga tower. I don't know. Let's go, uh some 228 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: more grim news. So to two bits of injury news 229 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: out of the Monday night game. We'll get to the 230 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: Monday night games a little bit after the news. But 231 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: the Charges Cardinals game a Cardinals eighteen seventeen win. Both 232 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: teams seem to potentially lost key players. John Abraham suffered 233 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: a concussion in the game, and now it's been announced 234 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: that he's taken a leave from the Cardinals, and there's 235 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: a report out there that he's been suffering from memory 236 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: loss and has been for over a year now, and 237 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: he is pondering whether to retire. He was placed on 238 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: the reserve list, which gives him gives him five days 239 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: to make a decision on what he wants to do. 240 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: But thirty six years old, apparently a history of concussions, 241 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: still productive player and they're best pass rusher now Abraham 242 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: very good chance. It seems that he's out of the picture. 243 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: Awfully similar to the Robert Mathis situation where you have 244 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: a team today really only his one effective edge rusher 245 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: if you take John Abraham out of the picture. This 246 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: was one of the reasons I was down on the 247 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals defense. They're only edge rusher is a thirty six 248 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: year old guy, and they have nobody behind him. Calais 249 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: Campbell can get to the quarterback, but he's not coming 250 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: off the edge. They have no outside linebackers behind Abraham. 251 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: It's interesting that in a year where we thought maybe 252 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: the forty Niners take a step back in the NFC 253 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: West because there's no easy team in that division, but 254 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: then bang, the Rams lose Sam Bradford. Today we find 255 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: out that Chris Long has gone for a while. We'll 256 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: talk about that in a bit. And then you got 257 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, who might have had one of the toughest 258 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: off seasons around in terms of what was a very solid, 259 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: interesting defense being stripped away of its talent. It's hard 260 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: to look at the Niners and not say they're gonna 261 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: be able to take care of business against these teams, 262 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: at least at home. I was impressed by Arizona's defense 263 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: against the Charge, especially was going off in that game 264 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: but how many pieces can you take away before the 265 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: team's at the defense really becomes a mediocre or worse unit. 266 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: And I think we should point out that they are 267 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: a team who last year played way better at home, 268 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: especially on defense, and they did on the road, So 269 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: it shouldn't surprise us that they played better than expected 270 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: in the opener when they were playing at home. That's 271 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: a sneaky stadium to have to win in. It is 272 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: it really is underrated for that. And it's also you know, 273 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: every offseason we can look at the additions and subtractions 274 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: off a roster and then whistle this team down the river. 275 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: You're gone. But they surprise us sometimes. That's how the 276 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals looked in Week one. If they can keep it 277 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: up losing Abraham, that would be surprising. And on the 278 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: other side of the ball from that Chargers game, we 279 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: learned on Wednesday that Chargers center Nick Hardwick, who has 280 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: been the center for Philip Rivers since he came into 281 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: the NFL, has really been a steady player for them. 282 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: He is out for the year, suffered a neck injury. 283 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: It seems like it was a neck injury that he 284 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: had some issues with stingers last season. He hurt the 285 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: neck in Week three, the pre says, and he went 286 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: out with an ankle injury on Monday night, but apparently 287 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: the neck all there was an issue from the game, 288 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: and they announced today that suddenly he's out of the 289 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: picture for the year. That's a big loss for their line. Yeah, 290 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: I let's be honest, it's hard for us to say 291 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: with any degree of accuracy how losing the center will 292 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: affect them. They have a capable backup in rich orn 293 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: Berger who has been around for a while. But I 294 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: don't think this is like a death now. Further offense, well, 295 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: I when I remember when I went to the Chargers 296 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys game and we talked with Antonio Gates after, It's like, 297 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: why what is this whole Philip Rivers revival? What was 298 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: it to you? He goes, He's never changed. It's been 299 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: the line. They finally found guys to protect them. Now, 300 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: whether or not we buy into that as the sole explanation, 301 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: he was one of their most consistent guys on that line. 302 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: And you're right, but changing a center in quick time 303 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: is rough because you gotta do a lot to get 304 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: that other guy prepared. And uh, Mark, you mentioned it early. 305 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: Another NFC West team losing a big player, Chris Long, 306 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: the defensive alignment for the St. Louis Rams is going 307 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: to miss at least a quote few games, and it 308 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: could be months after under after he undergoes ankle surgery. Uh, 309 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: this is another big loss for a Rams team that 310 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: doesn't have too many more hits it could take. If 311 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: it's already over for them. You know, this almost doesn't 312 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: make a difference. But still that's a bad loss. Yeah. 313 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: If there's a silver lining, it's that their defensive line 314 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: is probably deeper than anybody's in the NFL. They can 315 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: plug some guys in there and be fine. But the 316 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: defensive line isn't the problem with this team. I think 317 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: we'll see more from that Ethan Westerbrooks character the undrafted 318 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: guy who looked good. We did an injury round up 319 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: today and it reads like an unwieldy first draft Russian 320 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: novel for a Wednesday. The lots happen on the injury front. West. 321 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: I know you're off today. You came into do the podcast, 322 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: which really speaks to you as a man what you're 323 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: all about, or maybe you are very bored. Which one 324 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: is it? I think it's both. Well, I know you 325 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: were not on board with Earl Thomas as the punt 326 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: returner for the Seahawks. Of course, the star safety being 327 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: given those additional duties struggle a little bit in the 328 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: season opener, and now Pete Carol announced Wednesday that Earl 329 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: Thomas will not be returning punts anymore. Brian Waters will 330 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: take over that job effective this week. So the experiment 331 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: with Earl Thomas as a punt returner less exactly four 332 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: quarters never made any sense to me. I get that 333 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll adheres to the competition mantra more than any 334 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: coach in the NFL. That's why they have so many 335 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: undrafted free agents who make the team and so many 336 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: late round draft picks who have big rules. And Earl 337 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: Thomas earned that job. But it never made sense from 338 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: an injury prevention standpoint, and from a standpoint that Earl 339 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: Thomas has no experience during this job, and he made 340 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: mistakes in the opener. He he didn't know when to 341 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: call a fair catch. I talked to two people inside 342 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: the Seahawks organization this afternoon, and why are you laughing? 343 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes you just know something's alive. Well, this is accurate. 344 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: I just got a text about this on the way after. 345 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: You know, that'll be fine from you too. I'm about 346 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: to drop some information out of the Seattle area. John 347 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: Schneider was well, he was in his vehicle and you know, 348 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: long drive to the Seattle terris Land vehicle in his vehicle. 349 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I'm not going to give 350 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: you wrong facts. I don't know what kind of car 351 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: he has or trucks. So he was in his vehicle 352 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: through the Seattle force Lands listening to UH. An episode 353 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: of the podcast when Chris ripped the concept of Earl 354 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: Thomas being a punt returner went back to the facility 355 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: and said, we have got it. Just at the sound 356 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: effects are relentless. Went back to this facility and said, listen, Pete, 357 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: I understand what you're all about, but we gotta we 358 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: gotta reverse course here, put him, take him out of 359 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: the pun. Just happened to the last two minutes of 360 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: my life. I just instituted a material chance. Yeah, we're 361 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,239 Speaker 1: not allowed to on the site, we can't write it 362 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: that way. But just for the listeners, who I think 363 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: more of our real audience. Are you now an NFL 364 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: media insider, I guess I just crossed that threshold. Finally, finally, 365 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: this was something I just want to run by you guys, 366 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: because I found it amusing. Larry Fitzgerald on Monday Night 367 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: was a targeted four times and the first one didn't 368 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: come until the second half. He finished with one catch 369 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: for twenty two yards. Lara Fitzgerald doesn't say anything about 370 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: this because you know, he's an ambassador of the class. 371 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 1: It's all class. But Lara Fitzgerald's father not quite the 372 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: same character, it seems as his son. Oh he is 373 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: a character. Uh yeah, he came out and he tweeted that, 374 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: uh comments along the lines of, well, I'll read the 375 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: comments because they were they're so trenchant being a receiver. 376 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: You can work hard, run all game, and you're dependent 377 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: on the coach calling your number and the quarterback getting 378 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: your getting you the ball. The world saw on Monday 379 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: Night football, the politics and business of football. If it's 380 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: been decided that you're not getting the ball, just win. 381 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: So obviously, with Larry Fitzgerald Jr's financial situation, uh, hanging 382 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: in the balance for next year, Senior thinks that his 383 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: son's being frozen out for money reasons. It's an interesting theory. 384 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem that completely out rage just to turn up. 385 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: I heard I heard someone make this guess before the 386 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: season that Larry Fitzgerald he didn't use frozen out, but 387 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: Ross Tuckler Ross Tucker on the Ross Tucker Football Podcast 388 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: said I would not draft Larry Fitzgerald in fantasy football 389 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: because they have these younger receivers. Fitzgerald is a twenty 390 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: four million dollar cat Figer next year, and they're probably 391 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: going to start veering the offense away from Larry Fitzgerald. Well, 392 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: it makes sense so a strategic standpoint that that's what 393 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: they're gonna do. But I don't buy into it that 394 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: the that Bruce arians met with management and they're like, hey, 395 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: don't don't let Carson Palmer throw it to large sheld 396 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: as much like, that's not that's not credible anyone down 397 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: that way. But they don't need It's not like they were, 398 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, taking out a key part of their offense 399 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: that they can't survive without. Honestly, it's not that way 400 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: anymore because they have so many other wide receivers. We 401 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: saw it, well, here's here's an example of how it 402 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: could happen. Early in the game, there was a key 403 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: third down and the Cardinals were a three wide receiver set. 404 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald was not one of those three wide receivers, 405 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: and that's never happened before in Arizona. And it should 406 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: be noted that Bruce arians was, of course. So it's 407 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: a little conspirac I mean, we do sound a little 408 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: a little nutty potentially to think that they've met in 409 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: over this. I don't but and I don't think that's 410 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: what we're saying. It's just that I think that in general, 411 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: the offense is veering away from conspiracies. Though, Mark, you 412 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: once started to write a jfk assassination book, not a conspiracy. 413 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: You believe in it, right? And what there was a 414 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 1: conspiracy in Dallas and sixty three. I believe that the 415 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: facts that were given to the American public back then, 416 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: fifty years ago, whatever, are there was more to it 417 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: than that. But I don't think I'm alone the vast 418 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: majority of the Yeah, I think it would be silly 419 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: not to think that, Yeah, why would the government start 420 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: telling us the truth now? Or then? Hot take the 421 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: government take yes? Since when are we always given the 422 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: truth by the government. It's a really fair point. I 423 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: don't know anyway, veered into a completely different type of 424 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: podcast to that alone. We It should be stated that 425 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald himself shot down what his father said, and 426 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, shotdown when his father said and called the 427 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: comments inflammatory, so you know, there was probably not a 428 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: pleasant phone call between the two. In fact, Kevin Patrack, 429 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: or beloved around the NFL writer, wrote in a post 430 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: this morning that it was the equivalent of the soccer 431 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: Dada embarrassing his son at the game. Oh I've got 432 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: a better now, I'll do it. Michael Vick and Marcus Vick. Ah, yeah, 433 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: that's another great one. Uh So that's the situation. Bruce 434 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: arians was ticked off, I think was asked about this 435 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: on Tuesday and basically said, you know what, we have 436 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: options now. The days of the ball being forced in 437 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald's direction are over, which makes sense. You got Bruce, 438 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: you got Andrea Ellington, you have John Brown, you have 439 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: Michael Floyd, who's a star in the making right now. 440 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: It's it's a different time, moving forward. That's what's happening, guys. 441 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: T D I was that for news That was good. 442 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: It sounded like you're a little moving forward. It's kind 443 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: of like when you listen to Pandora or Stitcher. Actually, 444 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: do you listen to podcast on stitching always? Because that's 445 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: we are Stitcher Award winners. Yeah. So if you pause 446 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: an episode and go back to an episode, then you 447 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: hit play has a robotic voice that goes resuming episode. 448 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: You just well, by the way, I'm just curious because 449 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: the Stitchers are coming up again to formally nominate ourselves 450 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: or is that something that's the TV producer work. Yes, 451 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: we get the we get the note. Once nomination start, 452 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: we have to apply for nomination. People have to vote 453 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: for us, like, hey, go vote for Around the NFL 454 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 1: because we're reapplying for the job of the biggest podcast 455 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: in the world. Yes, of course. All right, gentlemen, So 456 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: it's time we move forward. Play the game America loves. 457 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, America loves it. Our listeners seem to 458 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: like it. We sert it's my favorite game show that 459 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: we have. Now that Greg has my toaster, yes, now 460 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: that Greg has your toaster, you still have go get 461 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: my lunch as the big game where we trade theories 462 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: or predictions about the season coming up. It was our 463 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: last time we played it was in April when we 464 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: did predictions about the draft in the off season. Now 465 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna do some predictions about the season. We're gonna 466 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: take turns going around the horn, uh, laying it out there, 467 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: and then each of us, the other two people in 468 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: the room, will get the opportunity to take you up 469 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: on that proposition, disagree with you, and if whoever it 470 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: comes out on the winning end, gets a high octane 471 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: sandwich or in Mark's case, a piece of bread with 472 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: lettuce and cheese cheese, fancy grilled cheese. You are you 473 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm coming for you after this show. I 474 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: love the t D Sizzler heat today. It's like Sizzler 475 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: has taken ranks place, all right. So I'm gonna start 476 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: it off, guys, because I'm so excited about the first 477 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: one that I can't wait any longer. I really do 478 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: wish Greg we're here right now because he loves this 479 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: game so much as well. What we'll end up doing 480 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: maybe for our next show on Friday, we will talk 481 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: to Greg, let him throw a few out there as well. 482 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: I like that idea. Yeah, we gotta get the boss involved. Yeah, 483 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: so we'll give Greg's opportunity as well. But for now 484 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: we'll we'll throw it out there in t D behind 485 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: the glass if you have anything, if you want to 486 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: get into if you want to hand to sandwiches, I 487 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: was going to say, here's your only warning and heat it. Uh. 488 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: The previous producer, the gold Standard, tried to wade into 489 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: these waters. He ended up down two sandwiches and then 490 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: fled to England. So we never absconded with two months. Yeah, 491 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: so you might have if you want to track him down. Okay, 492 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: well so if you if you happen to lose sandwiches, 493 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: there's no family trips in Nigeria that last for in 494 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: six years or something, so you would have to pay up. 495 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: So it's a lot of trouble go to to get 496 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: away from giving a sandwiches. TV moved because the Nigeria 497 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: four sandwiches. That would be stupid. I understand that. Okay, 498 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: here we go, I'll start it out. Here we go, 499 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: Fells Andy Dalton. I just want to get Dalton the 500 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: next Andy Dalton. I'm already picking you up on taking 501 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: advantage of Andy Dalton will finish with a higher passer 502 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: rating than Phil Rivers. Oh, I'm all over this one, ye, 503 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: I'll take it. I didn't even need to run this 504 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: by west Andy Dalton was always necessary. Mark, you seem 505 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: to be maybe, uh, you don't have the vendetta that 506 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: Chris Westley. I have no vendetta. I'm telling you. I 507 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: hate to go all great coaseell on you. I'm telling 508 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: you what the film shows. That does sound bad. I 509 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: did not want to come in here and drop a 510 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: ton of bets. But I'm gonna there are no propositions. 511 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to take you up on this, just 512 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: to juicy. Yes, now we do have a listener that 513 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: keeps track of all these at home. Right. Yes, we'd 514 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: been wonderful and he has been wondering he should reveal 515 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: himself so for herself so we can give he or 516 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: the credit. I know, well have they Maybe they haven't. 517 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: We just did not do our due diligence before the show. 518 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: That's distinctly possible. Their name could be right on their 519 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: Twitter feed for all we know. Anyway, someone has been 520 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: tracking this. It's called to go get my Lunch Twitter? 521 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: Is that what it is? Yeah, so check that out 522 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: because that has all the previous propositions. So that's the 523 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: first And I'm excited ready because I got too high octane. 524 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: That one, by the way, Mark, when you buy me 525 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: the sandwich, I'm gonna make sure it's meat lovers, and 526 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: you have to order and look at it get stacked 527 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 1: onto the brad. He did say it was too juicy 528 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: to pass up. It's gonna have a little bit of 529 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: softball residuing it. I'm gonna make that one myself, all right, Mark, alright, uh, 530 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: here we go right now. Jimmy Garoppolo will start one 531 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: or more games for the Patriots this season. I'm a 532 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: sporting man, so I will take you up on that. 533 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: Leave it. I don't know what that means, but I 534 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: leave it to Sessler to do one that is just 535 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: about someone going down with an injury, because obviously I 536 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: can't have to be that. Maybe they're up by six 537 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 1: games in the a f C East with you know, 538 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: seven ago, and they say let's put the youngster in 539 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: from Well, maybe they've won the division in week sixteen 540 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: and they sit in week seventeen. That's quite possible, he said, 541 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: one or more games, one or more. I don't take 542 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: any of any propositions that involved hoping or waiting for 543 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: someone to get injured. I'm not in your business with this. Scenario. 544 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: I think that the bet scares you, and so you're 545 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: using linguistics to escape. You could just saddle up and 546 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: take the bet. I'm just I'm a little disappointed that 547 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: you went down this route. You took the you took 548 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: the proposition west right. Let's just for the time being 549 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: a little bookkeeping, you keep track of your own sandwich situation. 550 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: Here we go, hang on picking one up. There it 551 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: is thrown across the room. All right, work. I've worked 552 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: with Mark for almost five years and he's never had 553 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: a pen in an important Well, I'm in an office 554 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: where there's always little buckets of pens. Why need do 555 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: I need my own? He's mdever. Alright, Well, let's let's 556 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: raise the bar with yours. Alright, this is this is 557 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: going to be a field situation. Oh I love field situations. 558 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: I am taking Brandon Cooks for Offensive Rookie of the Year. 559 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: You all get the field, which includes Kevin Benjamin, Sammy Watkins, 560 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: Mike Evans, Sammy Watkins with E. J. Mansuch as I 561 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: do so, I'm trying to reel you in, Kelvin Benjamin, 562 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: Bishop Sanky. You know what the field is. It's such 563 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: a great uh odds it's such great it is, so 564 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: I will take you up with Alan Hearns. I got 565 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: her involved here. He's on pace for thirty two touchdowns. 566 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: I think I will take you on that, just because 567 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: the odds are so good. Even though I do believe 568 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,239 Speaker 1: that Brandon Cooks is the favorite. He could easily get 569 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: picked off anything, he could get injured. He's just man. 570 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: Here's what you have in your back pocket, and that 571 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: is Blake Bortles said, hitting the scenes sooner than later 572 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: and succeeding it's over. No, why no, Dinky, you don't 573 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: want to join me? No I don't. But I already 574 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: have stated that Blake Bortles will win the Offensive Rookie 575 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: of the Year in print. So then why wouldn't you 576 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: take this? Because I like to go. This is called 577 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: this is how you actually make these things work. I 578 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: can't lose what what alright? Jason Garrett, he is the 579 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: teflon Dallas Cowboys head coach. He has orange hair, he's 580 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: a carrot top, gives exceedingly dull press conferences. Do you 581 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about? Yes? Familiar with him. He 582 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: will survive season. Anyone disagree. I can't take you up 583 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: on that, one because I I believe that he has 584 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: incriminating photos of the owner. I am going to take 585 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: you up on that like that, because it is my 586 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: belief that Hugh Jackson, we forgot about that, the head 587 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: coach the Dallas Cowboys. He has experience working with troubled owners, 588 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: and uh, he's gonna pull that trick in Dallas next season. Alright, 589 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: So Mark on the hook for two meat lover sandwiches. Now, 590 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: thank you, buddy. Appreciate that I haven't lost one yet. 591 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: All right, your turn, Mark. Alright, the Lebron James lad 592 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cavaliers will win more games in their first seven 593 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: appearances on the basketball court than the Browns will win 594 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: all season. Oh this is a good one. I love 595 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: this one because you have to figure that the Calves 596 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: are going to be and Eastern Conference, uh serious contender, 597 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: and they could go seven or oh, but they could 598 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: also maybe take a little while jail, so they could 599 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: be could be four and three, but they'll probably be 600 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: five and two or six and one, so that's five 601 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: or six wins. I picked the Browns to be a 602 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: six win outfit this season, so I will abstain because 603 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: it's too close to what I was thinking. But that's 604 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: what I'm again, Chris, I am looking up the Cavalier 605 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: schedule right now. That's smart too. I think we gotta 606 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: get TD involved in this. Nicks, Bowls, Blazers, Jazz. Let's 607 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: go one by one. Let's start over Nicks, Bulls at Bowls. Okay, 608 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: one and one at Trail Blazers. They're gonna split those games. 609 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: They're two and one at Jazz, three and one at Nuggets. 610 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: They're gonna stubble there. That's three straight road games there, 611 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: three and two versus Pelicans at Cleveland, the who New 612 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: Orleans Pelicans? It is real. I know it's I'm surd there. 613 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: Four and two after six games, and then at Celtics 614 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: that's five seven. You're you're a big basketball guys. Five 615 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: and two sound fair there? That's correct? Five and two? Okay, 616 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: so five they have more wins than the Browns, is 617 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: what you're saying. That's the way you phrased it. I 618 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: set up don't win more. Now that we went over 619 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: the schedule, that was brilliant. West. Would you allow me 620 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: to reverse back and take the sandwich proposition? So you're 621 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: saying that the Browns will have four wins tops they can't. Oh, 622 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: they can't. Excuse me, I was looking at the wrong way. Yeah, 623 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: it's four wins or more because I think they'll win six. 624 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I'm out. I'm Browns won four last 625 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: year and you called them the worst offense in football 626 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: and you see no tangible improvements here. You came out 627 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: of a twenty four point unanswered flurry by Cleveland saying 628 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: that Pittsburgh is more exciting. I will not take this 629 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: because I think they will win five games. I think 630 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: that last year they lost about ten in a row. 631 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: They just went into a funk, and I could see 632 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: maybe later in the year instead of going into a funk, 633 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: Johnny Football comes and revitalizes them for a game or two. 634 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: You want to take this pet t D. First off, sorry, 635 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: wrong one, I do it right. Well, first off, this 636 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: is true, but I'm not gonna take this bet. I 637 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: do believe Johnny Football is gonna show up at some 638 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: point in the season and we love with two or 639 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: three wins. Was that the Peyton Manning slow jam? Yeah, 640 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: the Manning brothers in their little fantasy. Uh, let's stop 641 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: giving them so much credit on their little commercial things. 642 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny too. About those commercials. Uh 643 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: and I thought this most recent well, nothing was funny. 644 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: I will say this, if Eli Manning continues to be 645 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: terrible at football, you can't do commercials anymore because it 646 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 1: just becomes at a certain point. You're talking about a 647 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Fame lock. According to conventional wisdom, 648 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: commercials as early as next autumn. Wow? Is that a 649 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: sessler that Eli Manning is gonna be released and be 650 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: out of football. It's gonna be out of New York. 651 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: Why don't you make this a proposition? Eli Manning will 652 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: be wearing a different uniform in two thousand fifteen. This 653 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 1: is too much of a lock. Alright, who's turning? Uh? Mine, 654 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: I'll take another field. Okay, My Wallace leads all a 655 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: f C East receivers in receiving yards this year. All right, 656 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 1: let's mark, let's talk this out. Who are the top 657 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: a f C receivers. I almost don't need to know, 658 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 1: because I think what he's predicating that on is that 659 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: in the Bill Laser Eagles offense that took to Sean 660 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: Jackson and blew up his career totals, you're seeing something 661 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: similar happening. He already looks good in week one. I'm 662 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: not taking that bet. I like what I like where 663 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: your mind's at. Reivers in the east, so you receiving 664 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: yards or wide receivers receiving yards. So you've got Gronky, 665 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: You've got Decker, Sammy Watkins, Robert Woods, Mike Williams, Julian Edelman. 666 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: You can't take anything in Buffalo seriously. That's I'm sorry. 667 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm not the Dolphins offen seriously yet not yet? So 668 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: uh shot across Mark Laser Mark, I apologize, don't not 669 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: to apologize to me. You're you're gonna happy do I think? 670 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 1: Here's what it comes down to me to me, Well, 671 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 1: Gronk more yards receiving than Mike Wallace. What about Edelman? 672 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: Edelman will be like he might if he he could 673 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: have like a hundred for more receptions, but for yardage 674 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,959 Speaker 1: the field. Right when I worked this question through, uh, 675 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: my only question was Eric Decker. I loved what I 676 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: saw of the Jets offense. They didn't score as many 677 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: points as they should have, but they moved the ball 678 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: up and down the field. You're also trying to get 679 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: slowly lured Dan. I am taking this as well. Once 680 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: again going with the odds and saying that, give me 681 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 1: any other player, and I think that Rob Gronkowski although 682 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: he didn't look a once he gets man. Yeah, once 683 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: he gets cooking and he and he's back. If he 684 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: stays south that he's gonna have to fifteen under yards potentially, 685 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: So wow, that would be a career high. Listen, don't 686 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 1: count him out. You love Tom Brady more than anyone, 687 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: but he's not healthy. All right, So I'm in, are 688 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: you marking yours down? I know Mark did not take 689 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: that one. It Mark didn't take either of him, and 690 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: you took both. Okay, good, you're very smart man. Next up, 691 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 1: we brought up Gino Smith's I'll throw this out there. 692 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: There's a lot of controversy in the summer about Michael 693 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 1: Vick or Gino Smith. I won two high octane sandwiches 694 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: off you, gentlemen because you didn't believe in Gino starting 695 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: week one. And now I'm gonna tell you this because 696 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: West I agree. Watching week one. I'm all in. I 697 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: think that that Gino is moving in the right direction 698 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: as the quarterback. I think, barring injury, he's starting sixteen games. 699 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: So I'll say Michael Vick does not get it. Get 700 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: a start this season unless Gino Smith gets hurt, so, 701 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: barring injury, Michael Vick does not start a game for 702 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: the Jets. I can't dispute that I liked what I 703 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 1: saw out of him too much. I feel like Jets 704 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: fan or Jets fans or even being a little hard 705 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: on him for his bad decision making, which to me 706 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 1: as a learning opportunity. He's a young quarterback. Scrambling or 707 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, fumbling, those things aren't that big of a 708 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: deal to me. But he looked phenomenal. Chris Johnson looked great, 709 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: Chris Ivory looked great, Eric Decker looks good. It's all offenses. Hm, 710 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: I can't believe West is I feel like I'm in 711 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: heaven right now. This is how I picture heaven, just 712 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: hanging out with West team. Are there midgets on unicycles 713 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 1: with pictures of beer? Of course? Obviously, Mark, I think 714 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: your premise is correct. I'm not going to take a 715 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: bet on that. Wow, I'm surprised. I thought, well, I 716 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: think they'd come this far, and I think this whole 717 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: Michael Vick on w f A N with Mike frances 718 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: is gonna melt into the hemisphere that has no value. 719 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: You're not gonna get anything out of him on that. 720 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: You only get anything out of Mike Francessa is the 721 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: big New York radio guy, and Vick is doing a 722 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 1: weekly spot that only becomes relevant if Juno Smith struggles. 723 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: If he doesn't struggle, Vic, there's nothing Vick could say 724 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: that could cause an issue. I'm not taking it. I like, 725 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 1: I think where you're going all right? Mine actually springboards 726 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: off that my last sandwich bet excuse me the wager? 727 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: Are you just gonna exce all those out? No, just 728 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 1: you know position going on. These are all being sent 729 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: to the league office. These references you're making the Jets 730 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: will finish with a winning record, not a and eight 731 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: a winning record. I'm not ready to say that. I 732 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: think they'll be eight or nine, and it's too soon 733 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: for me to really get excited eight or nine. So 734 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: are you taking him up on this? No? I can't 735 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: because I realized you don't want to do. You don't 736 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: want to bring that bad voodoo on your I said 737 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: eight and eight before the season, and I don't. Or 738 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,240 Speaker 1: I said seven and nine I believe before the season, 739 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: and I'm not. I saw enough bad things on Sunday 740 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 1: with with the Jets that I could see how things 741 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: could turn, even though the offense did look very good. 742 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to go down that road, so I 743 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: will not take it. Then you're agreeing that they have 744 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: a losing record because I'm saying they have a winning record. 745 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: They could have a losing record. Yeah, okay, that's a 746 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: very tough schedule. Four weeks from now, they could be 747 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: one and four spot SI. I like this team. I 748 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: think they're good, so I cannot I cannot dispute what 749 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: you're saying. You think of eight plus, I like, I 750 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen. I don't have the 751 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 1: ability to see the future like Mark, but I like 752 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: what I've seen from this team. Wait, so do they do? 753 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: They have to win nine for a winning record? Sports 754 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,280 Speaker 1: works and is not a winning record nine and seven, 755 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 1: Dan would record. You should understand that I don't listen 756 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: to you very closely too. I am learning that rapidly. 757 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: D my owner could be back this week, and and 758 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: I think I'm one of the few people who believes 759 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: he is on. He is going to have a good year. 760 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: But will he be ready for Aaron Rodgers. We're gonna 761 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: get to all our picks. By the way, in our 762 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: next show are week two picks. The Jets are traveling 763 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: to Lambo to face an angry Packers team. I'm not 764 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: dealing too good about that, Chris Wesley. I got one. 765 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, still it all right? So, coming off the 766 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: big Monday night performance, my main man Calvin Johnson, who, 767 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: by the way, is my favorite player. You saw Lebron 768 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 1: going off on Twitter, Kevin Duran going off on Twitter. 769 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: How making this guys? I say, Calvin Johnson, whose career 770 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: high and is sixteen for most touchdown receptions in one season, 771 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 1: is going to be the all time leader, gonna beat 772 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: out Randy moss Is two thousand and seven year where 773 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: he had twenty three. And get about. I'm all over 774 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 1: this one. I'm doing it. It comes from a place 775 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: again in fandom, but also the fact that I do 776 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: believe Calvin is probably the best talent in our generation 777 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: and he's gonna have that one season where he absolutely 778 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: just punctuates it. And I think this is this season. 779 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: I'll take you up too. I'd like to be attached 780 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,240 Speaker 1: to this, even on the losing angle, if you predict 781 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: this correctly in early September, West, I mean Tita, You've 782 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: made the classic error of letting your heart get in 783 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: the way of your proposition of letting celebrities twitter accounts 784 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 1: from not that. It just goes back to the point 785 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: of again, this guy is is a phenome. He's you know, 786 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: he's a freak, and I feel like he has he's 787 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: going to have that one season where it's like, how 788 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: much of this historical? How much of this goes back 789 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: to the fact that he's his nicknames Megatron, And you know, 790 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: a lot of goes back to the fact that his 791 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 1: nickname is Megatron, But that's beyond them. Also, nothing puts 792 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: a bounce in t D step like celebrity tweets when 793 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: you get this right and the trash. That's not true 794 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, that is so not true. You started 795 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: this off with, Hello, I don't follow a lot of 796 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 1: athletes on Twitter. They have nothing to say. Typically I 797 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: get that off news and pro football article catching all 798 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: that jazz. So he has to break the record, he 799 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: has to break the record. So I mean, man with 800 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: Golden Tate and you know, Eric Ebron, the options they have. 801 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: Teams can't lock on on Calvin like they did before. 802 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: Not exactly, but there's a flip side to that TD. 803 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: That means that Golden Tate, Ebron, Brandon Pettigrew were all 804 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: stealing t D opportunities from Kelvin John. I think what 805 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: they do four a TV specialist. I think they still 806 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: coverage with Calvin st who gets those touchdowns? All right, well, 807 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: welcome to the game. All right. I like this. This is, 808 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: this is It's almost like that Brady Bunch episode where 809 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: they have the curse medallion on the Hawaii trip. The 810 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: producer chair. The guy wears the medallion when he makes 811 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: careful Alright. The first episode ends with one of the 812 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: Brady brothers brothers going underneath the undertow on a surfboard. Yeah, 813 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: that would be That would be West's role. I believe 814 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: I've been caught in an undertow before the scariest moment 815 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: of my life. I got way too serious all of 816 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: a sudden. All right, who's up? I am? Okay, I've 817 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: got another field bet were by the way, we' running 818 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: out of time. How about this? Uh, West, You'll do 819 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: one and then we'll go around one more time and 820 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: then we're out. Okay, I've got a another field proposition. 821 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: The St. Louis Rams finish either with the worst record 822 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: in the NFL or tied for the worst record in 823 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: the NFL. Good one. I couldn't be more down on 824 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: this Rams team. That's kind of why I'm doing it. 825 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 1: I think you guys might might be as down on 826 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,439 Speaker 1: him as I am watching in that mausoleum they're playing. Yeah, 827 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: I I totally think it's very possible to the worst 828 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 1: team in football. Yeah, I as do. I I'm not 829 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: gonna take that bed. You get thirty one teams, I know, 830 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 1: but I you know Greg would take this. He would, 831 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,760 Speaker 1: and maybe we'll give him the opportunity. All Right, I'll 832 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: throw one out there. Oh, I want to pick a 833 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 1: good one, last one for everybody. So pick a good one. 834 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: Here we go, a lot of pressure, alright, I'm gonna 835 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: this one's a little wacky, but just for fun. J. J. Watt, 836 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: who I'm deeply in love with as a football player, 837 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 1: and even more so. After Week one, we'll have more 838 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 1: sacks this season than DeMarcus Ware and Von Miller combined. 839 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: Oh that's great. That is a great question. You just 840 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: told me not to let my heart they take this. 841 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: I'll take you up on that, alright. Alright, listen, you 842 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: have a point that Dan just doesn't want anyone else 843 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: to use their hearts. There's j J live room for 844 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,760 Speaker 1: my heart. J J. Watt doesn't miss games. Von Miller's 845 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: coming off an a c L injury, and DeMarcus Ware 846 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: has missed a lot of time you last couple of years. 847 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: That's a that's a fact. This is so hard and 848 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: t d. I will say that, yes, from my heart, 849 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: a little bit, not at the same level as your 850 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: love of Megatron. But um, I also have to factor 851 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: in that J J. Watt. Well, maybe it's really apt 852 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 1: because J. J. Watt is basically the Megatron of defensive linemen. 853 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,720 Speaker 1: I've got a side prop with a shadowy lead figure 854 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: on Von Miller Sex this year, So I've got I've 855 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 1: got too many oars in the water here. Does that 856 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 1: mean you're scared off? I mean this is pretty This 857 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: is tasty for you guys to pick it up. This 858 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: is too all pro all right, I'll take you up 859 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: on that, all right, Yeah, I will abstain. You can 860 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: let the boss go down that road. All right. That's 861 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: fair enough. That was a good question, Thank you. I 862 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: am torn. I'm not even happy with my choice. That's 863 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: for Australian listeners that song was not originally by her, right, 864 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 1: I actually remember that. Um okay, Mark, we have played 865 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: one game of this season, and my bet is that 866 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning has sixteen more NFL games and then he 867 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 1: has done. I will take that. I'll take it. Okay, Yeah, 868 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 1: I mean, what what's your basis? He will retire after 869 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: they lose their first playoff game. Wow. So even if 870 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: wait a second, because you made this harder on yourself 871 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 1: than you had to. Because if they let's say they go, 872 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: they win two playoff games, win a playoff game, and 873 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 1: then lose one, They're not going to win two points west, 874 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: And I would still all that matters for these purposes 875 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 1: is if he doesn't play next year. Yeah he could. 876 00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,840 Speaker 1: If they make it to the a f C Championship 877 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: game and lose and then he retires, we still win. 878 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,439 Speaker 1: Now I think all that were the proposition is only 879 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,399 Speaker 1: that he doesn't play next year, right, that they will 880 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: lose their first playoff game. Oh okay, it's not money 881 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: in the bank because it is correct sandwiches in the ballet, 882 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 1: all right, I'm all over that, and those are gonna 883 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 1: be finger sandwiches if you win that. What is that 884 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 1: an allusion to your financial situation? Just might be? You know, 885 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 1: this show cannot end fast enough, and I have a 886 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:45,280 Speaker 1: sharply worded letter to handle you, my friends. Finally, Charlie 887 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,919 Speaker 1: word left, t D. You better man, there's an eight 888 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:56,800 Speaker 1: to one ratio of antagonistic sound bites in my direction today. Finally, 889 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 1: Chris Wesley, I have to make one up on to 890 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 1: fly here, let's do another Peyton Manning one. Okay, Matt 891 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: Ryan and Matthew Stafford each finished with more passing yards 892 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,799 Speaker 1: than Peyton Manning this year. You know it's funny you 893 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: did that because I was thinking about a Matt Ryan 894 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 1: yardage related Well, he's already off to Uh, that just 895 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,839 Speaker 1: feels sensible. I'm not taking that one. Feels sensible. Man 896 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 1: just broke the record. Yeah, that's why it's not gonna 897 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 1: happen again. T D. What do you think too sensible? Yeah, 898 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm big on Matt Ryan this year. I think this 899 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 1: is the year he jumps into officially the top seven, 900 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: top six in the game. Well, do you think he'll 901 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 1: jump into like the top fifteen of damage X list? 902 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,800 Speaker 1: So I think Peyton Manning will throw for about forty 903 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: three yards, So you're selling him short, and uh, I 904 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: think that leaves him wide open to get picked off 905 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: by the Browns quarterbacks through yards last year. Don't understimate that, crew. 906 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: I think he'll I think Manning will fall about eight 907 00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 1: to nine yards short of both of them tonight. I 908 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: think I agree, can't take it. And then they'll say 909 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 1: I've had enough with a career. We just lost a 910 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: wild card game to the Pittsburgh Steelers. I've got a 911 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: call quits. I failed to real Mark in on a 912 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: single proposition. All right, let's go over. Let's just just 913 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: for a business purpose, bookkeeping purposes. My I'll start Andy 914 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 1: Dalton will finish with a higher passer rating than Phil Rivers, 915 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 1: West and Mark both on the hook there. Jason Garrett 916 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: will survive the season. Mark disagrees. Got another sandwich there. Uh, 917 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 1: nobody took my geno Smith will start sixteen games proposition. 918 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: But I did get West on J. J. Watt, We'll 919 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,760 Speaker 1: have more sacks than DeMarcus Ware and Von Miller combined. Mark, 920 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,800 Speaker 1: what do you ask for? When I repeatedly during the 921 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 1: podcast asked for everyone to track their their propositions, I 922 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention during that part. Okay, I did the 923 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,320 Speaker 1: Lebron on Calves Brown scenario. Everyone was to mystify it. 924 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: No one agreed, no one, no, no, no. It was 925 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: too much for you guys to handle. Uh. I went 926 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: Jets winning record. No one took that. No one said 927 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 1: they'd have a losing record. A lot of ridiculous excitement 928 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: about the Jets in this room. And I said that 929 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garrappolo will start one or more games. Dan wanted 930 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:28,320 Speaker 1: no part of that. West took it. And my Peyton 931 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 1: Manning when everyone signed up, and everybody's in on Peyton 932 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,760 Speaker 1: Manning that absurd prediction. With so many loopholes for victory, 933 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: it's almost the government's almost looking into he left your 934 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,359 Speaker 1: both flanks open on that one. That was potentially very 935 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: poorly done. But I feel strongly that he will get 936 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 1: acted in a playoff game, not unlike you know when 937 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: we saw Marino go down in flames. It's got to 938 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 1: be a game. It's so embarrassing, right, that says so 939 00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:01,399 Speaker 1: much about what's happens that Manning says, I'm done, I'm 940 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: off into the sunset, t J War do you quarterback this? 941 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 1: I thought you only get to go into the sunset. 942 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 1: When you in your season with a victory, it'll be 943 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:15,240 Speaker 1: an apocalyptic sunset. What's happening? Finally, West Brandon Cooks will 944 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: win Offensive Rookie of the Year. Mark agreed with me, 945 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 1: as I suspected he might you. Dan disagreed and got 946 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: the field, which, Uh, thank god that you'll be banking 947 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 1: on E. J. Manuel for this one. Uh let's see 948 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: what else did I had the Rams finished at the 949 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: worst record or tied for the worst record. Nobody took 950 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 1: up took the other thirty one teams. Sorry, Rams fans, 951 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 1: we hate your team. Uh what Mike Wallace preparation on 952 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: this end? I don't have a pen and paper, Mike 953 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,919 Speaker 1: Wallace a f C east. Mark agreed with me. Dan 954 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: took me up on the field again. I like ron 955 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: and yards. My last one was Matt Ryan and Matthew 956 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 1: Stafford finished with more yards than Peyton Manning. And I 957 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,800 Speaker 1: believe you both kicking out on that. Yeah, that I 958 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: chickened out on that one. I'll admit that I viewed 959 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 1: as a correct prediction by Wesley. And and finally we 960 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,879 Speaker 1: had t D Yes, I took you up in J. J. Watt, Yes, 961 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 1: Yes I did. And then on Mike Calvin Johnson will 962 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 1: have the most in history, the most touchdowns in the 963 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,919 Speaker 1: season history. Sessler took me up on that, correct only 964 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 1: sesslor No, I we all took it. We took we 965 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 1: don't think it's happened that. I was the only one 966 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 1: that didn't massacre you on this broadcast for coming up 967 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,319 Speaker 1: with it. Take shots. That was unch TV got one 968 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,759 Speaker 1: last quick one really quick? All right? Another team, a 969 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 1: team in the AMC East nine names in New England Patriots, 970 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 1: who will make the playoffs this season? Oh, it's I 971 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 1: like that. I mean that's probably going to happen. I 972 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,839 Speaker 1: think the Dolphins could. I think the Jets could. I say, well, 973 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: the Dolphins or Jets could. I won't take it because 974 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm rooting too hard for my Jets. I will not 975 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 1: take that. Dan's like the guy who has to announce 976 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 1: the Monday night games, so he can't bet on this one. 977 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,399 Speaker 1: But he's just not announcing the no Monday night games. 978 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Dolphins or Jets will make the playoffs, 979 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: but I think they're both strong enough to make that 980 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: a very believable So I'm not touching that. Yeah, that's good. 981 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 1: That was good. That was sort of a game there. 982 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,720 Speaker 1: That was stinky bait. That's Tybee Island talk right there. 983 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 1: All right, that's it for Wednesday's edition of the Around 984 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. We'll have one more show this week 985 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 1: while we're we're we're going to preview all the week 986 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: two games and uh go over the Thursday night affair. Uh. 987 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 1: Greg rosen To will be back with us. We'll give 988 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 1: him some sandwich opportunities. So thank you for listening. We 989 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 1: will see you later. This is Dan Hanzas signing off 990 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 1: for the Sizzler, the Mailman and t D behind the Glass. 991 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,479 Speaker 1: So then we're gonna