1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: of Fame or Tim Kirkschen I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshin 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: and Dad. I got to say, just right off the 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: bat if you're watching on YouTube, I love that shirt. 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: Is that rowback? Is that a baseball He's a. 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: Baseball collar shirt. Yes. And my grandson, your godson, Carson, 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: has a matching baseball shirt and we have worn them 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: more than once at the same time. So yes, this 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: is a baseball shirt. I figured I would wear something 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 2: other than a Walter Johnson sweatshirt pullover fleece. So this 11 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: is I've all sorts of baseball themed shirts. Jeff, what 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: else would I have? 13 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: I know? 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: Right? 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: Well, I know you like tell the story of when 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: you had to go to the store Baseballism to find 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 1: a shirt because you didn't have the right shirt at 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. 19 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 2: Is this true? Yeah? I didn't bring an up of 20 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: polo shirts. I needed something, so I bought a Roberto 21 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: Clemente shirt at baseball Isms. It was great. I wear 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: it here and there. It's a little big for me, 23 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: but yes. And then I went to the golf course 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: there leatherstocking and bought two other Polos to get me 25 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: through Hall of Fame weekend because I was so nervous 26 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: I didn't pack very well. Yeah. 27 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's pretty common. You and I are 28 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: both throw it all in the bag and get on 29 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: the road as soon as possible. I've forgotten underwear, I've 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: forgotten socks, I've forgotten pants. So I've been there, Dad. Hey, yeah, 31 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta praise you, Dad, because I get 32 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: emails from our listeners, Great gamer what dot com, members 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: of our family who want to message us, and then 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: I go in to respond and you're responding constantly to 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: people at great gamerw dot com. Well done, Dad. The 36 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: technology is not beating you. It's tim one technology, zero 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: waiting go. 38 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,279 Speaker 2: It's a million to one, Jeff. I finally won only 39 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: because you set it up on my phone. An idiot 40 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: could figure out how to use this. All you have 41 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: to do is hit compose, write your thing, and then 42 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 2: hit the little arrow. It's great. But Jeff, I've gotten 43 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: some heartwarming things from our listeners and viewers. It's great. 44 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: So Rob Johnson sent me this really nice email after 45 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: finding out that my birthday is on December tenth, nineteen 46 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: fifty six. Let's see how well you remember things. Jeff 47 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: Walter Johnson. 48 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: Will just stop you there right on December tenth, nineteen 49 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: forty six. 50 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: Yes, I found that very symmetrical. So now he knows 51 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: what my birthday is. So he says, with its beautiful note, 52 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: that my daughter Caroline's birthday is also on December the tenth, 53 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: and I got such a kick out of it. Rob 54 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: wrote me back the next day and said, this is embarrassing. 55 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: I went to Caroline and told her that Tim Kirkchin 56 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: is born on the same day as you, December the tenth. 57 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: Caroline told him, Dad, my birthday's December the ninth. No, 58 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: So Rob Age fifty one kind of wrote that off 59 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 2: to getting older. He just temporarily forgot his own daughter's birthday. 60 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: So I thought the story was even funnier and even 61 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: more personal that he forgot his daughter's birthday and she, 62 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: without any anger, corrected him knows the day before. 63 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: Well. I want to shout out Chris McCarthy. He's been 64 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: messaging us as well. I'm not sure if you have 65 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: him on your list here, but he sent us FYI 66 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: the free the three highest single season pitching b wars 67 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: in the World Series Ara, I belonged to Walter Johnson, 68 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: Walter Johnson and Dwight Gooden. And then he ends the 69 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: message with did I ever tell you I went to 70 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: Dwight goodin high school? 71 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? I read Chris's beautiful email and it was about 72 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: the greatness of Dwight Gooden. So I'll tell Chris and 73 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: you this story again. 74 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: Jeff. 75 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: Here's how good Dwight Gooden was. He pitched in the 76 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: All Star Game, started the All Star Game, and Roger 77 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: Clemens was the starting pitcher for the other team. I 78 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: think this was nineteen eighty six, not important, it's right 79 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: in the middle of Dwight Goodin's incredible prime. So Clemens 80 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: hasn't batted since high school because he went to the 81 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: University of Texas. They had a DH, had a DH 82 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: in the minor league. So now this is the first 83 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 2: time he's faced a pitcher since high school. And Dwight 84 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 2: Gooden's first pitch to where Roger Clemens comes in at 85 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: like ninety seven miles an hour with incredible zoom to it, 86 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: and Roger Clemens looks at the home played umpire and says, 87 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: do I throw that hard? And the home played umpire 88 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: goes yes, Roger, you throw that hard, and he went 89 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: god like. It was so important for Roger Clemens to 90 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: recognize what great eat stuff really look like up close, 91 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: and the only way to do that is to bat 92 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: in a major league game. That's how great Dwight Gooden was. 93 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 2: And Roger Clemens said that he started to throw his 94 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: fastball more often, knowing if that's what it looks like, 95 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: no one can hit that. So Roger Clemens's greatness continued 96 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: after facing Dwight Gooden in the All Star Game. That's 97 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: how great Dwight Gooden was in his prime. Also, Jeff 98 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: John Woodward, who has sent in several emails, send me 99 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: one this is beautiful, and he wasn't being critical, but 100 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: he was disappointed in my all vowel team on Tuesday 101 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: that I did not use Aurelio Rodriguez as my third baseman. 102 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: I grew up watching him play in one of the 103 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 2: great throwing arms of any third baseman I've ever seen. 104 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: And John Woodward's point was Realio has all of the 105 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 2: vowels in his first name, So we made a big 106 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: deal out of Ed and Nelson Figueroa having all the 107 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: vowels in their last name. Really o Rodriguez has them 108 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: all in his first name, and I had to explain, 109 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: You're right, I forgot. You know, I've done this list before, Jeff, 110 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: and I know there was someone with all the vowels, 111 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: but I've referenced Juhanio Suarez so many times for having 112 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 2: all the vowels that he's very much in the news today, 113 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: as you know, an active player with forty plus homers 114 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: that I just didn't even think. I just put Uhanio Suarez. 115 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: It's our third baseman, and Aurelio Lopez, also a old 116 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: Tiger reliever head. Of course, all the vowels in his 117 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 2: first name. So thank you John for pointing this out. 118 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: It was very instructive. 119 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: I don't have any news of this sort, so don't 120 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: get excited. But maybe our next kid will call Mary 121 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: Louise Kirks in all one word. 122 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: Do you think that? 123 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that's all the vowels in the first name 124 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: at this point. I mean, it's better than Sequoia Marchion. Right, 125 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of names I could I could 126 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: pick here at Ophelia, maybe that could work. 127 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: All right, just and there are not a lot of 128 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: Kirchens out there, that's for sure. So. But of course, 129 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: in case anyone's wondering, Stephen Kirkchin, formerly of the Boston 130 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: Globe and the Spotlight Team, the greatest investigative reporter in 131 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: the history of the Boston Globe, the guy that uncovered 132 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: all of the huge scandal in uh with the Catholic 133 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: Church in Boston. That was my cousin, Stephen Kirkchin, that 134 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: did all of that. And he used used to tell 135 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: me when I was a young beat writer, says, I 136 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: want to do what you do. I want to cover 137 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: a baseball team for a full year. Can you imagine 138 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: Stephen Kirkchen, the greatest reporter ever. He would have gotten 139 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: every scoop on every game, on every player because he 140 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: knew he knew where to look. As they used to 141 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: say in Boston, the five worst words of the English 142 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: language for corrupt people are Stephen Kirchin is on the phone. 143 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: That's how good my cousin was. 144 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: Is all right, Dad, Let's jump into the takeaways. 145 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: When you get Mets are suddenly scoring a bunch of runs. 146 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: But more important, they have Nolan McClain on their team. 147 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: He's first Met ever to win his first four major 148 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: league starts. Even Dwight Gooden and Tom Seaver didn't do that. 149 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: He's done it with a tremendously low era. And Tuesday Night, 150 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: Jeff he got the win by retiring the final fourteen 151 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: batters of the game. That's how that's how great he's been. 152 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: And they also brought up Jonah Tong, young guy. So 153 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: there's chance that the Mets can make the playoffs and 154 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: I think they are and use Nolan McClain and Jonah 155 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: Tong in their rotation in October. How how cool would 156 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: that be if a team looked and said, all right, 157 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: they're young, they're inexperienced, they don't know what they're doing, 158 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: but we're going with it because there are two really 159 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: good young arms. 160 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: Well, dad, isn't there a part two? When it comes 161 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: to a playoff run? That having younger players almost makes 162 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: it easier because they're so green. They don't really know 163 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: the bread, you know, the massiveness of the moment, so 164 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: they're just kind of playing baseball. A lot of people 165 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: talk about, you know, playing in a playoff game their 166 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: rookie year versus their tenth season. You know, tenth year, 167 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: you feel really pressured. I finally need to win the 168 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: World Series. I've been in the league ten years, but 169 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: in your first year you're like, well, I'm just here 170 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: to play basketball. I'm here to have fun. 171 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: Ignorance is bliss, and some of these guys just don't 172 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: even understand the pressure that they're supposed to be under. 173 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: I really like where the Mets are right now. They're 174 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 2: really starting to swing. The bat Wan Soto has been 175 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: great lately. Interesting. We'll have some great Pennant races to finish. 176 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: So showe Aotani hit home run number one hundred as 177 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: a Dodger, And we just need to always point out 178 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: anything that Otani does because everything he does seems to 179 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: be some sort of historic Miles Stone. This is another one, 180 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 2: and Jeff I have to say, you know, we're not 181 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: critical on this show. I'm just too old to be 182 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 2: yelling at people. But the other day Cardinals Reds game, 183 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: and Andy Vance, like former major leaguer, called me last 184 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 2: night out of the blue just to tell me, did 185 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: you see the infield fly rule? Well, the Reds are 186 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: in the field, the bases are loaded, there's an infield 187 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: fly rule, and the ball drops and everyone on the 188 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 2: Cardinals got confused on the basis and started running all 189 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: over the place and I, frankly, Jeff, am not sure 190 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: the Reds knew what to do with the situation, because 191 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: now guys are running all over the place. They don't 192 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: know if it's a force, if it's a tag, who's 193 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: going where. It was complete bedlam on an infield fly rule. 194 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 2: And I'm going to tell the story again, Jeff, when 195 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 2: Aaron Boone several years ago told us in spring training 196 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: that he has told his defensive players on an infield 197 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: fly rule, dropped the ball intentionally because it might confuse 198 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: the runners. They don't know the rule and they take 199 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: off and we might get an extra out of it. 200 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 2: So on opening day that season, playing the Blue Jays, 201 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: the blue Jays are in the field, a Yankee hits 202 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: an infield fly rule, the ball drops, and the Yankees 203 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: ran themselves into another out. And so what Aaron Boone 204 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: was preaching his own team did the opposite of that. 205 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: Messed it all up. And he called me the next 206 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: day because we'd done that game, Rabbi Eduardo and I 207 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: on TV, and he called to apologize for us having 208 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 2: to watch a major league team foul up the infield 209 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: fly rule. 210 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's so crazy that he would ask 211 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: his team to do that, and then while they're on 212 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: the basis different mindset, they forget the one rule. 213 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: He is last thing. Jeff Frans Valdez of the Astros, 214 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: a really good picture with sensational stuff, crossed up his 215 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 2: own catcher, Caesar Salazar the other day him right in 216 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: the middle of the chest protector with a strike and 217 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: Salazar was expecting something else and he was given something else, 218 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: and he absolutely whiffed on it. And Valdez later apologized 219 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: for crossing him up. But there's some people out there 220 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 2: that think that Valdez did this on purpose to his 221 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: own catcher. Now I'm not sure about that. I'm not 222 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: going there, but uh, why would I just don't understand 223 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: why anyone would do that. Agreed. 224 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I saw the video actually this morning, and 225 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: I think the reason why a lot of people are 226 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: thinking he did it on purpose is right after it happened, 227 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: he had no sympathy on his face. He had nothing 228 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: but kind of an angry look. Right if he had gone, 229 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: you know, my fault, my fault through the wrong pitch 230 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: or something like that, and you'd be like, oh my gosh, 231 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: total mistake. But maybe it was because of that. Maybe 232 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: it was because of a bad call earlier, because of 233 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: the grand slam, and the catcher said, hey, like, don't 234 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: throw a pitch. He threw it anyway, gave up a 235 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: grand Slam. Could that have been a part of it. 236 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I talked to two former pitchers about that, 237 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: and I said, don't tell me that was intentional, And 238 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: both of them said that was intentional. He did that 239 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: on purpose, which, okay, that's just two guys' opinion. That 240 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's right. But it's really interesting. I always 241 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: go back to when Raul and Banya is one of 242 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: my favorite people ever. He was in his twenties trying 243 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: to make a major league team, and he was a 244 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: utility player, so he went to the minor leagues to 245 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: learn how to catch so he could become the third catcher, 246 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: to really improve his versatility and his chances of making 247 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: the team. So he said, his first game behind the 248 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: plate in the minor leagues, like, the first pitch came 249 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: in and he completely missed it, and it hit the 250 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: umpire like right in the chest, and the umpire Raoulavajas 251 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: to go, what what are you doing? And I Banyas 252 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 2: looks back at the uppart and say sorry, sorry, I've 253 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: never caught before. But this is what you do in 254 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: the minor leagues. This is where you learn how to 255 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: play different positions by go experimenting on the minor league level. 256 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: In this case, an umpire got nailed because poor Raoul Labayas, 257 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: who was trying really hard, just missed the pitch. He 258 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: didn't do it on purpose. 259 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: Let's walk into the corkchins, dad, two of which I 260 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: have a couple, but I don't want to jump on 261 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: any of your right, Well, I'll give you mine first. 262 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: So you know how much I love James Wood of 263 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: the Nationals. So we got to be careful with this 264 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: because Kenny Wood's dad. I played basketball with Kenny Wood 265 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: for years. 266 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: He's great. But James Wood now has twenty five hat tricks, Jeff, 267 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: So that's twenty five games in which he struck out 268 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: three or more time. So we'll call a hat trick 269 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: three or more in baseball parliance. He is a hat trick. 270 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: Four is a sombrero, five is a golden sombrero. And 271 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: do you know what a six is, Jeff? I told 272 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: you this story once you remember I went to a store. 273 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: I went to a game in Kansas City one night 274 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: where Sam Horn and the Orioles, and it's. 275 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: A golden horn or the horn right right? 276 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: He struck out six times. So after the game I 277 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: went to Mike Flanning in of the Orioles, the late 278 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: great Mike Flanning, and said, Flanning, all right, three's a 279 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: hat trick. Four is sebrero. Five's a golden sabrera. What 280 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: is a sixth? And he said, from now on six 281 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: will be known as a horn? 282 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: So, which is so perfect because hat trick, sombrero on 283 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: your head, horn technically on your head. It could not 284 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: have happened to a more perfect nurse. 285 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: I can't wait for the next six strikeout game so 286 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: I can call it what it should be, a horn. 287 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: So James Wood has twenty five hat tricks this year. 288 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: The major league record is twenty six, so he's got 289 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: a month to break it. I know he doesn't want to. 290 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: By Joe Gallo in twenty eighteen and Mark Reynolds in 291 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: two thousand and nine. And I know I've told you 292 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: about Mark Reynolds. Jeff one of my favorite players, went 293 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: to the University of Virginia. Really smart guy. At two 294 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety nine career Homers was a great defensive 295 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: third baseman, but he struck out a lot. And he 296 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: told me once, I'm the holder of a lot of 297 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: weird records out there. So he is currently the co 298 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: leader in most patricks in a season for a hitter. Oh, 299 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: by the way, that's the same Mark Reynolds. I was 300 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: doing a story on how hard the game is to play. 301 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: So he told me one night, he said, he said, 302 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: my mom is like the greatest baseball fan in the world, 303 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: and she really really understands what she's watching and she 304 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: watches every game. So he said, she called me last 305 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: night after a game I played and she said, how 306 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: did you miss that two oh slider? That's what it's 307 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: mother that he had to say, Mom, it's not that easy. 308 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: So the career record Jeff for for hat tricks in 309 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: a career is one hundred and seventy three by Adam Dunn. 310 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: So Adam Dunn struck out three or more times in 311 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: game one hundred and seventy three times, and that's in 312 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: danger because active gian Carlos Stanton has struck out has 313 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: patricks in one hundred and sixty five games and he's 314 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: not done yet. He's got several more years to go. 315 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 2: Just curious, Jeff. The hat trick, of course, is more 316 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: of a hockey term. Wayne Gretzky, I have to look 317 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: all this up, is the all time record holder for 318 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 2: a season in hat tricks. What do you think? What 319 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: do you think the record is for hat tricks in 320 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: one season? That's three goals in one game by a 321 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: hockey player. 322 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: I would say like eight, eight or nine. 323 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 2: Great guest, Yeah, yeah, So Gretzky is the record holder 324 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 2: with ten, and he is the career record holder with 325 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: fifty hat tricks. Wow, I told you I met. I 326 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 2: met Wayne Gretzky at my dear friend Matt McCoy's house. 327 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 2: This is thirty five years ago in la and Gretzky 328 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 2: was playing for the Kings, and he and Matt McCoy 329 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 2: actor friend who of course played in Seinfeld episode Lloyd Braun, 330 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: and we went to high school together when we were 331 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 2: the same year. So Matt invites me over. 332 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: Dad, and he was in your wedding. 333 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: Of course, let's get down. 334 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: He didn't just go to high school. He was one 335 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: of your one of the groovesmen. 336 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: And he he says, come on over for dinner. Gretzky's 337 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: coming over, so I think he's joking. But we're sitting 338 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: getting ready to eat, and in walks Wayne Gretzky, and 339 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, and he introduces himself. Hi, I'm Wayne, Like, 340 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: no kidding. I know nothing about hockey, but I know 341 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 2: who you are, and I don't know anything about hockey, chef. 342 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: But my favorite description of a hockey player is how 343 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 2: the you know, like the Russian coach described Wayne Gretzky 344 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: after he just undressed their team again. He said, with Gretzky, 345 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: he goes, you see him, then he disappears, then there's 346 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: a goal. Is that not perfect, Jeff? 347 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: It's so beautiful. 348 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: That's what again, great hockey players do. And that's what 349 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 2: Gretzky could do. He was three steps, four passes ahead 350 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: of everyone else. He could see the floor like nobody else, 351 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: see the ice like nobody else, like a great point 352 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: guard in baseball. He was a pretty good hockey player, 353 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 2: eh he was. And he was a good baseball player. 354 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: And Wayne Gretzky was an amazing athlete. Yes, okay, so 355 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: your boy, Kyle Schwarber, we said on Tuesday, he went 356 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: oh for twenty and then had a four homer game, 357 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 2: and since the four homer game, at least through Tuesday, 358 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 2: two for fifteen with eight strikeouts. So, Jeff, this is 359 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 2: why baseball is so beautiful. In between, I mean, he 360 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: had a four homer game, and on the outside of 361 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 2: a four homer game, he went to for thirty five. 362 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 2: It's just how baseball works. It's why it's so beautiful. 363 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: You can be so great one night and then the 364 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: rest of the time it's a struggle. Again, speaking to 365 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 2: the degree of difficulty in the game. And the last one, Jeff, 366 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 2: this came from Steve Sparks, our friend who does the 367 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: Astros game on the radio, the brilliant, hilarious seamhead Steve Spark. 368 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: So I just got a text overnight from him and 369 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: all it said was thirty three one thirty three. So 370 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: let's see if you can remember what that means. 371 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: That was had to have been the crowd size of 372 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: the game. 373 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: Attendance at Tuesday night Yankees Astros game thirty three thousand, 374 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty three. This is what seamheads Steve 375 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 2: Sparks does. He looks and make sure he checks the 376 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 2: attendants every night, just to see if there's fun to it. 377 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: So it's a palindrome thirty three one thirty three, And 378 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 2: I wrote back, I said, how many palindrome attendances have 379 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: you had this year? He said at least three. But 380 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 2: he's the only one paying attention to this. I love it. 381 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Dad, coming up next, I have two 382 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: quark gens I'm going to try to spring on to 383 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: you to see if they impress you at all. We're 384 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: also going to do on this date in Baseball History 385 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: featuring a special guest. So usually I mean always on 386 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: this date it's about a certain player. We actually have 387 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: that player who's going to join us, and from Azzie 388 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: to Oral best of All Tim and a team Tim 389 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: to wrap up the show. It's all coming up next. 390 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: Back on is this a great game or what? 391 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: Dad? 392 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: Are you ready for my two argens? 393 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: I love them, Spring them on me. They're great. All right? 394 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: Do you want to hear about the homer that should 395 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: not have been a homer? Or the matchup that I 396 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: really enjoy it. 397 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 2: Let's hear the matchup first. If it's Carson Wentz, I'm 398 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: already ahead of you. 399 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: No, it's not Carson Wentz. It's actually Wednesday Nights Pitchers 400 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: in the Rangers Diamondbacks game. I'm calling it the fire 401 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: matchup because it's lighter against gallon. I get it, gallon 402 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: of gas, a lighter like that kind of vibe. 403 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: Yes, love it, love it. That's that's what. Yeah. Wednesday night, Jeff, 404 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 2: way to go, we got some. 405 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: I can't believe I got that one. 406 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: Did you do that one or did you get it 407 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 2: from that's yours? Now? I found that right, Jeff, You're 408 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: I've corrupted you. This is great. You're thinking like me, 409 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: which is not good. 410 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: And then from my friend Jag John Gay, who is incredible. 411 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: He actually runs his own podcast consulting company. So if 412 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: anybody is doing a podcast like us and is looking 413 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 1: to start or need some help, you can check them 414 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: out John Gay or Jag do a Google search, it'll 415 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: all pop up and it'll help you launch your first podcast. 416 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: But he sent me an article from bro Bible. Trevor's 417 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: story is breaking science with his bizarre home run dad 418 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: in a six to four victory over the Cleveland Guardians 419 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: this past Monday. It was his twenty third home run 420 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: of the year. However, it genuinely is not a home 421 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: run in all thirty ballparks, including the one that he 422 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: hit it in right which is incredible, including the two 423 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: minor league stadiums were playing in currently. So the way 424 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: it works is he hit the ball ninety four point 425 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: five miles per hour with a launch angle of forty 426 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: two degrees. In most parks, that's a routine flyout. In fact, 427 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: stat Cast says Dad that that around that area is 428 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: you the batting averages point zero one zero of getting 429 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: on base. 430 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: And it was a home run right but it's it's 431 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: right field at Fenway. It's the pesky pole, and right 432 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 2: fielder had a little trouble with it. So I love it. 433 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 2: I love it the home run that wasn't a home 434 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: run but really was a home run. 435 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: It was and you know, a story stopped at second 436 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: thing you got a double John Kenzie Nowelle in right 437 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: field had a little bit of trouble with the pesky pole. 438 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: It's a pesky one, as you might imagine, and ultimately 439 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: it became a home run and it shouldn't be a 440 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: home run in all thirty parks. 441 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: So I thought that was fascinated. Just like we said 442 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: the other day, you hit a home run off a 443 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: position player, it's a home run. A home run is 444 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: a home run, and this whole thing hell would have 445 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: only been a home run in what no other park? 446 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 2: Would that have been a home or well, it doesn't matter. 447 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 2: It wasn't hit in any other park. It was hit 448 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: at Fenway Park, so it counts. 449 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: That makes this game so much more beautiful. If you 450 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: ask me, like, no, one's like, uh oh, we're playing 451 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: at the garden. The three point line is so much 452 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: further back. It's like, no, it's not. It's the same place. 453 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 2: That's the beauty of baseball. Nothing is the same. And 454 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: that's all right. Cool. 455 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: Let's jump into on this date in baseball history, we 456 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: have a special guest rights. 457 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: We got to talk about Mike Piazz's birthday. Born in 458 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 2: nineteen sixty eight. Mike po for me, is one is 459 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: the greatest hitting catcher of all time. We talk a 460 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: lot about cal Raley, as we should, and you start 461 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: looking for the greatest season ever by a catcher. Check 462 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: out that nineteen ninety seven season by Mike Piazza. That 463 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: was a joke, that's how great he was. Mel Didier 464 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 2: drafted him for the Dodgers, and again he got drafted 465 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: in like the sixty eighth round. Mel Didier was the 466 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: scout that found him, and it was pretty much done 467 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 2: as a favor to Mike Piazza's father, who was a 468 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: friend of Tony of Tommy Lasorda. That's how Mike Piazza 469 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: ended up getting signed to play pro ball and then 470 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: developed into again the greatest hitting catcher that's ever been 471 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: in my opinion. So Mel told me he called Mike 472 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: Piazza on Christmas Day once, like as Mike was like 473 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: nineteen years old starting his assent to the major leagues, 474 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 2: and his dad said, he's not here, He's out in 475 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: the backyard hitting in the cage on Christmas Day. I mean, 476 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: that's what you gotta do. Jeff and Mike Patzi. I 477 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 2: told you Jeff had unbelievably strong hands. His second to 478 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 2: the last stop in his major league career was with 479 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 2: the Padres, and they had to take a hand strength 480 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: test to determine how strong your hand is, and Mike 481 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: Piazza like broke the club record by a mile at 482 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: his Bruce Bochi then the Padres manager told me it 483 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 2: was like Herman Munster was on our team, which, right, 484 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: anytime you can get Herman Munster into our podcast, I'm 485 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: in the most underrated sitcom character of all time. Boy, 486 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: he made me laugh all those years. So happy birthday 487 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: to Mike Piazza. 488 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: I did a quick look into the NL MVP voting 489 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: for that year. Dad, you're talking about nineteen ninety seven, 490 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 1: Mike Piazza. He actually batted three sixty two, which just 491 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: like that number doesn't even compute in twenty twenty five. 492 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: But I'm like, how does he not win the MVP? 493 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: And of course I pull it up Larry Walker. I 494 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: had forty nine home runs. It's just kind of an 495 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: unbelieve one hundred and thirty RBIs thirty three stolen bases. 496 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: I heck of a year. So I mean it makes sense. 497 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: But boyle boy, is that sad to see not see 498 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: him win the MVP. But we could see an amazing 499 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: year from a catcher this year and cal Rally could 500 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: be really really great. 501 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: Right Okay? And on this day, Jeff, in nineteen ninety three, 502 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: Jim Abbott pitched a no hitter against then the Cleveland Indians, 503 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: and we have Jim Abbott talking about that right now. 504 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: Well, thanks for remembering that date. Tim. That's a that 505 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 3: was a while back. But you know, I tell you, 506 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 3: it's a really special date for me. I it was 507 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 3: a Saturday morning. I woke up, went to the ballpark, 508 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 3: Yankee Stadium. I hadn't had an incredible year that year 509 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 3: with the Yankees. There was a little bit of frustration, 510 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: I think on everybody's side, and that day changed my life. 511 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 3: It really, it really did. And I you know that 512 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: twenty seventh out, the connection with the Yankees organization, the 513 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 3: connection with the city of New York, even, it just 514 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 3: turned out to be a magical thing in my life. 515 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: Jim, when Matt Noakes ran to the mound to hug 516 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: you that day, you you looked at him and I 517 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 2: can't read your lips. What did you say? How about that? 518 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 2: What do you remember what you said when Matt Noakes 519 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 2: ran to hug you on the mound? 520 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 3: I do remember, only because I watched it recently with 521 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 3: our with our friend Jeremy. Sure, but I said, how 522 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: about that, baby, Yeah, something something along those lines. 523 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: I think your previous start against the Indians, you got 524 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: you got Clawbard, is that right? And then you threw 525 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: a no hitter against them? Explain the mindset between these guys. 526 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: Crushed me the last time out, and then you threw 527 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: a no hitter. 528 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 3: That's why anything can happen to McKinley, you know, because 529 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 3: a lot of my teammates were not expecting a no 530 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 3: hitter that next time out, and it was, you know, 531 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 3: it was to him, it was. It was a low point. 532 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 3: I really struggled against the Indians. They were a good 533 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: up and coming team, you know, up and down. That 534 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 3: lineup was very strong, and I pitched against them in 535 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: Cleveland and nothing went right. I didn't didn't pitch well. 536 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 3: Every ground ball seemed to find a hole, and all 537 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 3: of a sudden, I don't remember the statistics, but I 538 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 3: don't didn't last long that day, and I was really frustrated. 539 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 3: I was really frustrated. I was down. I'd been traded 540 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 3: from the Angels, which was really kind of my baseball home. 541 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: I felt like I was letting the Yankee organization and 542 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 3: down a little bit, and I went running. I left 543 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 3: the stadium, like you're not supposed to do that, and 544 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: I put on my running clothes and I left the 545 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 3: stadium and we won the game. I came back Buck 546 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: Show Walter wasn't too happy with me for leaving the stadium, 547 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 3: and you know, the next outing there was you know, 548 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 3: there was a to talk about how poorly I had 549 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 3: pitched in August, and you know what I was I 550 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 3: going to be able to hold my place in the 551 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,479 Speaker 3: rotation even And so that day I went to the 552 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: stadium weirdly, a little bit looser, like the worst had happened, 553 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 3: Like like I had. I felt like it. I'm not 554 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 3: gonna say rock bottom, but it felt like I had 555 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: kind of bounced off the bottom a little bit, and like, 556 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 3: what what more could go wrong? And I had Matt 557 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: Noakes behind the plate that day, and you have a 558 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 3: great memory for that. He was enthusiastic, you know, positive guy, 559 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 3: and we came up with a great, great game plan 560 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 3: and you know, things just kind of went our way 561 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 3: that day. Hard hit balls were at somebody and that 562 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 3: trust finally, you know, started to come back, and the 563 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 3: ball came out of my hand better as the game 564 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 3: went on. And so anything can have. You know, what 565 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 3: happens in your last outing does not dictate what happens 566 00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 3: the next time out. 567 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: So that's it's just a clip of us chatting with 568 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: Jim Abbott about that incredible day back thirty two years ago. 569 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 2: Dad. 570 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: I was roughly four weeks old at that time, because 571 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: I was born August ninth, nineteen ninety three. But we're 572 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: excited to announce that Jim Abbott is going to be 573 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: our guest next week on the podcast, so you'll get 574 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: the full interview for next week, right. 575 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 2: Can't wait for that because Jim Abbott is one of 576 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: the most inspirational players we've ever seen, an amazing man, 577 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: one of the kindest people I've ever met. And we 578 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: will talk at length with Jim Abbott next week. And 579 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 2: the last one Jeff twenty nineteen Michael Lorenzen, pitcher who 580 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: pitched a no hitter that you and your wife Emily 581 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: watched as she was giving birth to McKinley Hope. You know, 582 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: two years ago that date, on this date in twenty nineteen, 583 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: Michael Lorenzen hit a home run, he got the victory 584 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: as a pitcher, and he played center field, all in 585 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 2: the same game. And the only other person that has 586 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: ever done that was Babe Ruth in nineteen twenty one 587 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: and Michael Lorenzo. Somebody made a real baseball card with 588 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: two pictures on it, Babe Ruth and Michael Lorenzen as 589 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: a tribute to that day and that event. At all 590 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: the things he did and he looked at me, and 591 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 2: he says, can it Can anything be better than having 592 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: your own baseball card with only you and Babe Ruth 593 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: on it? So cool? 594 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: It's insane, all right, Dad, Let's jump in from Ozzy 595 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: to Oral. We're counting down the best players at each number, 596 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: from Ozzie Smith at one to Oral Herscheizer at fifty five. 597 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: We are on number forty two, which I imagine is a 598 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: pretty obvious one, but also difficult. 599 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: It's difficult because Mariano Rivera is the greatest closer of 600 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: all time. There is not a close second. He is 601 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: the only unanimous Hall of Fame choice. So let's be 602 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: clear that Marianno Rivera may this difficult, but Jackie Robinson 603 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 2: has to be number forty two a because of what 604 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: he did breaking the color barrier nineteen forty seven. And 605 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: he was also a great player Jeff Rookie of the 606 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 2: Year MVP played first base but mostly was a second 607 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 2: baseman and was a great second baseman. Dave Anderson, the 608 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: great columnists we used to work for the New York Times, 609 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: once wrote that Jackie Robinson could beat you in more 610 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: ways than any player in Major League history, and as 611 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 2: far as athletes go Jeff. You know he played, was 612 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: a great running back at UCLA. He was an All 613 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: Pack ten basketball player. He was a great tennis player, 614 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: a great golfer, and one of the best baseball players 615 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: of all time. That's who number forty two, Jackie Robinson. 616 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 2: Is not to mention how he paved the way. I mean, 617 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: Frank Robinson told me once of Jackie Robinson. He said, 618 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 2: the lesson that Jackie Robinson taught all of us about 619 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 2: hatred and inclusion and how you get back at them 620 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 2: for what they say to you is to go out 621 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 2: there and beat them on the field, which is what 622 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: he did and what Frank Robinson did, and what Hank 623 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 2: Aaron did, and what so many others did. Jackie Robinson 624 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,959 Speaker 2: taught them how to do that. And that's why he's 625 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: the greatest number forty two, because he's the most important 626 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 2: player in the history of Major League Baseball. 627 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: Number forty three. Who's the best player. 628 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 2: To wear that odd number? But I've got Dennis Acresley 629 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame closer absolutely dominant in his days Jeff 630 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine ninety Those two seasons combined, he had 631 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 2: eighty one saves. Try to follow this Jeff, he had 632 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: eighty one saves and eighty base runners allowed for a 633 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 2: two year period. He walked a total of seven guys 634 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 2: in a two year period and gave up a total 635 00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 2: of eighty base runners and had eighty one saves. He 636 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: told me after the ninety season, he goes, if anyone 637 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: ever does that again, I'll kiss your ass, which that's 638 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 2: not necessary here, Ack, but his point was well made. 639 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: No one's ever going to do anything quite like that again. 640 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 2: Is He was one of the greats ever and one 641 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 2: of the funniest people I've ever met, one of the 642 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 2: most honest people. Always faced Music famously gave up the 643 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 2: home run to Kirk Gibson in the eighty nine World 644 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 2: Series that turned that World Series around. And as I've 645 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: told you, Jeff, it's the first time I had ever 646 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 2: heard the term walk off homer, and it came from 647 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 2: Dennis Secrets League. Maybe a lot of other people had 648 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 2: heard it. I had never heard it. I was in 649 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 2: the scrum after the game and he said, well, the 650 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 2: guy had a walk off homer. So I said to Eck, 651 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 2: I said, what do you mean. He goes, well, he 652 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 2: hit a home run and everyone walked off the field. 653 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 2: So that's the first time I'd ever heard it after 654 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 2: one of the most famous home runs in baseball history. 655 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 2: I also love this. Jeff Debti Secresy picked off Kenny Williams, 656 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: who was with I believe the Blue Jays time not 657 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 2: important three and then he went three and a half 658 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: years without picking off anybody. And then the next guy 659 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 2: he picked off was Kenny Williams. How great is that? 660 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 2: So perfect? Right? Only only in baseball can something that 661 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 2: strange happened, and it happened to Dennis Eckersley and Kenny Williams. 662 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: The best of all tim Each week on Thursday's episodes, 663 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: we give you the best player at every single franchise 664 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: in history of that franchise. And today, Dad, you're doing 665 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: the Expos slash Nationals franchise. 666 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 2: Who you going to? And this was difficult too, because 667 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 2: you got Andre Dawson, you got Tim Rains from Montreal Days, 668 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: and a bunch of others from National Days. Of course, 669 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 2: Bryce Harper was amazing. Greatest national of all time for 670 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 2: me is Ryan Zimmerman. But I'm going with Gary Carter, 671 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 2: who was an amazing player for over ten years with 672 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 2: the Expos. He kind of put them on the map. 673 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 2: When they brought him up, that's when they started to 674 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 2: get pretty darn good. He's one of the Hall of 675 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 2: Fame catcher, one of the great catchers ever. I mean, 676 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 2: people compare him. He's he was as good as Bill Dickie, 677 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: people will tell you, and Bill Dickie is one of 678 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 2: the great great Yankee catchers of all time. Nobody presented 679 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: himself better than Gary Carter, big, strong, athletic. Love Gary 680 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 2: Carter in every way. And this is for Doug Anderson, 681 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 2: one of our listeners who met Gary Carter and met 682 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 2: his family and just was absolutely touched by the whole experience. 683 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: So Doug, this is for you. This is why we 684 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 2: chose the Expos Nationals this week so we could do 685 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 2: a little shout out to the great Gary Carter. And 686 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 2: by the way, when Gary Carter was in the minor leagues, 687 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 2: Barry Foot was the catcher. Foote was the catcher for 688 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 2: the Expos and cal McLish, who was the pitching coach, 689 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 2: used to say to Barry Foot, who was the everyday 690 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 2: catcher for the Expos, You would say to him, you know, 691 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: the kid hit two home runs last night talking about 692 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 2: Gary Carter, and the next day come in and go. 693 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 2: You know, the kid had two hits last night and 694 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 2: threw out a runner. That's how Gary Carter got the 695 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 2: nickname the kid is that cal McLeish, the pitching coach 696 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 2: for the Expos, would warn Barry Foot every day, like 697 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 2: the young guy is on his way. You better pick 698 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 2: up your game no matter what. So in honor of 699 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 2: Barry Foot, we have, let's see if you can guess 700 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 2: fairly obvious, the all body Parts All body Parts team. 701 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 2: And there are some stretches here as always Jeff, but 702 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 2: Barry Foot is the catcher Corey Hart. We're playing at 703 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 2: first base, and the second basement is chin lung who 704 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: that's chi n hyphen l u n G. So we 705 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 2: have two body parts. We have a chin and we 706 00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 2: have a lung. And who's spells his lame hu. But 707 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 2: when he reached base as a member of the Dodgers, 708 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 2: Vince Scully said, I can now finally say who is 709 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: on first? 710 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 1: Was on first? 711 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 2: We love right? Okay. Third baseman is Dave Brain real name. 712 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 2: He's on the All Smart team, but he's also on 713 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 2: the All Bardi Part team. I needed a couple of 714 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 2: nicknames because I love nicknames. These are two of the 715 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 2: best Leo the lip durocher is our shortstop Walt no 716 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 2: Neck Williams, who I grew up watching. Waul Williams didn't 717 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 2: have a deck. It's like they put his head on 718 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 2: top of his shoulders. He was a really good player 719 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 2: and really fun to watch. Shin Sue Chew that's s 720 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: h I N. So we have a chin and a shin. 721 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 2: Sue Chew is one outfielder. Jared Head is another outfielder, 722 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 2: h e A. D Our pitchers are Bill Hands, who 723 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 2: missed pitching to Barry Foot by like two years. The 724 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 2: overlap is Jeff Seriously, how good would that have been? 725 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 2: Bill Hands pitching to Barry Foot? 726 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: We just miss We would have been even better if 727 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: there was a pitcher catcher combination of Brad Hand currently 728 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: pitching a major league baseball hand and foot right hand 729 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: pitches to foot right. 730 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 2: I think that would be even better. It'd be great. 731 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 2: So we have Bill Hands as one of our pitcher 732 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 2: rich Hand singular but it's not Hands can't use the 733 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 2: same name twice. And of course our Hall of Fame 734 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 2: closer Raleigh Fingers. So that is the all body parts team, 735 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 2: and I just love that. Our listeners and our viewers 736 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 2: love this part of the show. It's now a challenge 737 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 2: for me to come up with one for not just 738 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 2: every Tuesday, but every Thursday. 739 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 3: Also. 740 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 2: I've had more stretches of Willie McCovey here. But we're trying, Jeff. 741 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: We are trying. 742 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 2: Well. 743 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: You can always submit one great game or what dot 744 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: com if you want to chey, I'm in there. You 745 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: can do so. We love hearing from you, and I 746 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: know my dad has really loved being able to respond 747 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: to your messages now that we figured all that out, 748 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: so great gamer dot com. As we mentioned earlier next 749 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: week on the show, Jim Abbott is going to be 750 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 1: joining us. I'm so excited for that, Dad, and that's 751 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,720 Speaker 1: coming up next week. Dad, enjoy your weekend. 752 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:18,919 Speaker 2: Thank you, Jeff, see you soon. 753 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. It is always thanks for being a 754 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:22,720 Speaker 1: part of our family.