WEBVTT - A Hard Launch with Kendall Long and Deandra Kanu 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.680 Hell I Suck at Dating with Denungler and Jared Haven 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:11.200 and I heard radio podcast What's going on? Everyone? Welcome 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:14.280 to an all new episode of Help I Suck At 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:16.799 Dating and Boy, oh boy, do we have a great 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:20.040 episode in store for you guys. Today. Jared is out 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:22.000 because he's feeling under the weather, so we're going to 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:24.840 give him some time to rest, take care of the baby, 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:29.800 focus on his health. Um. But as promised, great episode 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:32.680 in the store. We have two of your very very 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.960 very favorite former Bachelor contestants, even though there's so much 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:39.640 more than that, obviously, Kendall, who has been here many 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:43.520 many times with uh some great life news to update 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.080 us on, which hopefully we can dive into a little bit. 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:48.920 Kendall and uh D Andrew, which, by the way, I 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:53.599 don't think that we've met, have we. Well go, It's 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:57.880 an honor to finally meet you here of all places. Um, 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.520 welcome to the podcast. But first I want to focus son, Kendall. 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:04.920 So you guys already know each other, I believe, right, Yes, 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:08.559 you have together, perfect, perfect, You guys have paradise together, 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:10.240 That's right. So I'm the odd man out here then, 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.680 which is funny enough? Okay, So, Kendall, Um, you are 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.040 a recurring guest host on this podcast. We love you dearly. 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.440 It's always great to see you. But since the last 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:21.640 time we've seen you, there has been a major life 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:25.600 update that we saw you post on your Instagram. Yes, 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:33.880 I am in a relationshipship, in a relationship, You're in love. 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:38.119 That's amazing. I know, it's so crazy. Um, yeah, it's 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.760 it's fun. It's good. God. What was your caption? You 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.000 were like, screw a soft launch, I'm going right for 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.000 it or something like that, wasn't it. No, I just 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:50.160 have to love by the way, I'm in love and 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:54.400 just like our relationship, these pictures get progressively or something 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:56.320 like that. Maybe in my maybe in my head, that's 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.360 what I said. I said, Kendall said, screw a sofaunch, 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:03.080 She's gone right for it. Okay, So everyone who follows you, 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:05.960 which is basically everyone and everyone who loves you. Uh 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:07.920 that maybe wasn't on the on the inside line on 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:12.560 that was shocked, myself included, because um, I hadn't really 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:14.400 seen you post about this guy. And a lot of 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:18.639 times in social media nowadays, people like slowly introduced their 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.720 partner to the world until eventually they posted about him, 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:23.760 but you just went full head of steam right out 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.960 of the gates for it. Um, So can I ask 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:28.280 you like all the questions like how long have you 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.280 guys been dating for? Where'd you guys meet? All that 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:34.400 kind of stuff? Yeah, definitely, Yeah, go for it. I'll 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.000 answer all the things guy's been together. Where did you 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:41.000 guys meet? From me in? What do you love about him? 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:47.960 Where does he live? How old is he? What's his signed? Um? 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:53.960 What was birthdays in? December December seventeen, nineteenth December nineteen. 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.000 I don't know what sign that means? But um, I 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:59.640 met him through a mutual friend, uh and um, someone 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.560 named and Bennett who was supposed to go on Claire's 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:04.400 season to The Bachelor, but we ended up being friends 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.600 and he was a volleyball friend of his, and so 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:13.440 we met at like a shindig and um, he was 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.120 automatically like a science nerd, and I was really into that. 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:19.120 He's narrow space engineer, so we just immediately talked about 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.080 all the space things and that's kind of what got 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:25.440 us connected. Um. And it was his birthday the day before, 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:27.880 like we met the day before and his birthday. Then 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:31.600 it was the next day. So um, yeah, he's twenty eight. Um, 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.280 I'm trying to think. Uh, but yeah, I don't know. 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.480 We've been dating since I guess we met on his yea, 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:40.920 we met the day before his birthday in December. Our 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.560 first date was the day after Christmas and so we 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:49.160 drove and went to see tide pools together and um, 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.720 which was really fun. And uh, yeah we've been kind 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:58.320 of I'm really normally private about my relationship dating experiences 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.920 until I'm pretty solid him pretty sure about the relationship 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.520 and with him, Um, we just built to a place 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:06.640 where I was like, yeah, why not? And it was 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.160 it was funny because everyone was saying like, oh, he 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.160 did a hard launch hard launch and I didn't even 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.119 know that hard launching and soft launching was a thing. 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:15.280 Just like this is a picture of someone that I 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:16.880 I don't know. I wasn't gonna be like here's his 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:22.880 hand like people do, that's what people do nowadays. Yeah, 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:24.560 I mean I thought it would be cute to do 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:25.840 it that way. I don't know, I've never really thought 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:29.560 about like that. Um, but yeah, he's very stimulating as 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:33.560 a person and he we debate about all kinds of 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.240 things and he's just really cool and it's never boring, 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:40.240 so love it. For the record, I'm not a big 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:44.360 zodiac guy either, but but for the record, he's a Sagittarius. Sagittorious, 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:46.880 I don't know how to pronounce it properly. Um, there's 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.320 three really good Sagittorious is my life. My mom and 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.960 both my brothers are both storious. So I get good 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.800 vibes from the guy. I like him. I like him, Yeah, 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.680 good vibes, good vibes. So but so were you nervous 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:01.200 to jump into things with him or did you feel 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:04.239 like you're ready for a relationship again, because I feel 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.200 like we haven't seen you in a relationship publicly, at 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.400 least in a while, so it's just always kind of 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.960 like nerve racking to reintroduce the world to you, know, 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.040 you being in a relationship, don't you think? Yeah, it's 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.360 weird because I feel like a lot of my relationships, 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.320 well one in particular, has been really public, and I'm 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.239 not really a relationship public kind of person. I prefer 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:27.200 to really get to know somebody without the entire world 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.119 because everyone always throws in their opinion whether you should 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:31.920 be with them, whether you shouldn't, and and I knew 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:33.920 as soon as I did say something about anyone that 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:35.560 I was dating, it was going to be a direct 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.479 comparison where it's like, oh, he's better or he's worse, 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:40.719 or that the you know the same, And I just 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.760 didn't I don't want to date anybody with anyone else's opinion. UM. 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.159 So I just wanted to really get to know him 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:49.320 and him to get to know me without that. Um. 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.320 And it's kind of intimidating to open your relationship up 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.800 to you know, the world and the scrutiny of it 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.800 or I don't know. Yeah, so I guess I was 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.280 just a little bit shy about that initially. Yeah, well, 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:05.560 I gotta say, an incredibly handsome aerospace engineer. Sounds like 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.760 you really knocked it out of the park with this one. Yeah, 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.440 he's a good guy, he's a keeper. Yeah, we'll see. 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.080 I have good feelings about him, and I wouldn't have 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.839 a posted him or hard launched him if I didn't 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.680 think that he was someone that I was really excited about. 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:24.120 So yeah, yeah, it's it's definitely it's one thing to 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.280 be in a public relationship when both people are I guess, 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.320 for lack of a better word, public figures. But when 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.320 in this case, like when one of them you know, 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.920 isn't or for whatever reason. Uh, it's like how does 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.400 he handle it? Like, you know, I can only imagine 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:42.680 he's probably got an influx of people interested in who 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:44.600 he is now just because you guys are dating. Like 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:46.520 I'm sure he's probably like super level headed about it 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:50.279 all though, right Yeah, I mean, um, he we talked 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:53.640 about it a bit beforehand, and UM, he's private on 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:57.000 his social media, so he doesn't really want to dive 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:00.760 into that world, which I like. It's I'm glad that 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:05.080 he's not in the influencing world. And um, it makes 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:06.880 it so we can do our own thing as opposed 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:09.320 to I don't know. Yeah, I've done the public relationship 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.720 before and it's nice that we can have things to ourselves. Um, 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:14.680 but he's had people like try to follow him or 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.880 get to know him a little bit more, and um, yeah, 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.120 he at first was like I can tell he was 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:22.840 a little bit, uh, a little bit out of it 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.240 when it first happened. He was like he came in 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:26.480 and he was like and he doesn't went into the 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:31.240 kitchen that started doing dishes like really like I was like, 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:32.960 thank you, like I need to public post more pictures 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:36.720 of you just clean my dishes. So yeah, yeah, he's 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:41.040 he's humor about it. You know, that's good. That's good. Um, 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:42.720 what was I gonna say? I can't remember I was 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:44.240 going to say, but no, oh, that's what it was. 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.800 I know he's private because I went to go creep 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:51.680 on him and I couldn't. No one will know, no 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:53.480 one will know. I respect that move a lot. I 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:55.440 wish I could be private again. I used to be private, 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.400 but I feel like nowadays it's like, you know, you 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.480 don't really have much of a choice. You know, difficult, 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:02.880 It's difficult. Yeah, but hey, I want you to know 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:04.680 we're really happy for you. And it looked like you're 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.440 really happy in those photos. You seem really happy right now. Um, 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.760 and I think that's just really great. Thank you. Yeah yeah, 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:15.200 so yeah nice And we can't wait to see more 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.400 updates from you guys. It sounds like you're pretty new 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:21.040 in the relationship four months in so um, you know, 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:23.960 I hate to even speculate, but I gotta ask, since 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:27.240 we're dating, podcast, like, what what do you think the 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.440 future holds for you? Guys? Because you said he's twenty 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.040 eight that's Uh, it's young for l A. But it is, 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.280 like you know, it's around the timeline where you start 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.679 to think about your future a lot more seriously. So 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:38.040 what do you think the future holds for you? Guys? 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:39.520 Just kind of keep dating and see what happens in 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.640 l A or um, we're in the same place in 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.640 terms of what we want, UM, which is I'm in 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:51.120 a place where I'm ready to date someone that I 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:57.000 see the long term with, whatever that may be. Um, 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.920 I don't really I'm not looking at that. So yeah, 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.400 I can see this being something that you know, goes 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.240 pretty pretty far. And him too, And he's a little 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.200 bit younger, um, but he just doesn't act that way. 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:14.800 You know. He's a very he's images in a lot 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:18.280 of ways, but very mature in the places that count, 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.079 so which I think that's good. I want to say 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.520 I'm probably a watered down version of that too. You know, 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:25.559 I definitely don't hold the cands with this guy. Sounds 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.960 like he's the whole package. But I like to say 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.079 that I'm also really mature in a lot of ways 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.240 that keep things fun and interesting, and then you can 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:34.800 turn on the maturity when you need to, which for 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:38.680 me is very rare, but at least I do my best. Um. Well, yeah, 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:42.680 like I said, that's amazing. Congratulations, were so excited for you. Thanks. Thanks? 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:47.000 He is he in Spain with you right now? He's not. No, 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.800 I'm here for my friends birthday and we're planning a 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.520 trip to Europe in July, so we will be going 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.880 abroad soon, which is exciting. But with work, it's difficult 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.720 for him to get off of, you know, to travel 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.640 a rod randomly. So yeah, definitely when you have that 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.840 real nine to five, and especially in aerospace, I feel 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:08.679 like they work probably like sixty seventy hour weeks. Yeah. Yeah, 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:12.079 he's working on a lot of things. Um. So it's 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:15.960 exciting though because I feel like I'm learning a lot 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:19.400 about space through him, which is really cool because I've 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:22.760 been like on a sudden like space upswing. Uh, So 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.440 it's cool to be able to Actually he comes home 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:27.360 and we can kind of talk about stuff he's been doing. 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:31.640 So yeah, it's so nice for what I feel like, 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:35.200 you love is someone that can constantly, like intellectually stimulate you, 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.760 And it sounds like that's exactly what he's able to do. Yeah, 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:39.360 And he tells me I'm wrong all the time, which 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.480 is so great, um, And I like it for just 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:44.600 like getting in debates with somebody is like something that 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.600 I really enjoy, and he'll he'll even tell me I'm 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.640 wrong or try to debate something even if he agrees 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.600 with me. So it's definitely been like one of those 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:58.559 relationships where we test each other constantly. Um, But can 0:10:58.559 --> 0:10:59.959 I ask you about that a little bit more, Beau, 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.760 because Kaylin and I do the same well, I guess 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:04.080 I do the same thing with Kaylin all the time, 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:05.640 and she gets really upset with me a lot of 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:07.760 the times when she's like, why are you arguing with 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:12.320 me when you agree with me? And um, how do 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:13.719 I how do I help frame that as like a 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.560 good thing, because I think it's fun to like. The 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:18.960 more you argue about something like not like argue, but debated, 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:20.840 I guess is a better word than the more you 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:22.800 kind of better understand it and you'll either agree with 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.760 it more or disagree with it by the end of it. Um, 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:27.360 So how could I How can I frame that better? 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:29.400 Because I love doing that too. It's like, yeah, I 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.000 might agree with you, but let's see if we can 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.360 argue a counterpoint here. You know, I see it as 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:35.800 growing and learning, you know, I mean, debating is one 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.920 of the best ways to use your brain and to 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.520 you know constantly. I think something that really I found 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:46.440 attractive that he did was that, Um, I was saying 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.000 something that I believed in and I was like, oh, yeah, 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:49.439 I guess I could believe in that. And he's like, well, 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.559 why do you actually believe in that? Like why is 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.960 that something that you really And there's some things you 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.000 just never really think about. You just agree with it 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.320 because it's the easier path to go down and to 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.880 be challenged and to reflect, aket Onto, like why you 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:04.080 actually have the values you do? Um, I think it's healthy. 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:07.160 And I believe in being more like a malleable person 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.600 with some things. I don't want to be concrete and 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:13.079 solid um And I think him constantly testing me with 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.959 that just allows me to be open to going and 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:18.800 I want to grow with someone. I don't want to 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.839 be stagnant. So I mean, I think, you know, with 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:24.800 you guys, it's just a way for you to constantly 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:28.680 be learning about each other and being excited about different 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:31.200 things you never thought about. Yeah, it's just like a 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:32.880 it's like a it's like a game. It's like, you know, 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.720 it's like a Settlers of Katan where you're like, you know, 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.280 doing things. It's always different and you're always like trying 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.760 to find a different viewpoint to I don't know, understand 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.480 the world better. So I do love set as a Katan. 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.120 I love that reference. Um. I always find it funny 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:48.920 too when he tried when you try to argue as 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:52.280 someone about something. Uh. And this isn't exclusive to relationships 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.040 or anything like that, but just like like debates in general, 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.839 when you like start talking and like making a counterpoint 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.080 and they immediately get super defensive and they go on 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:02.840 their heels, and that's kind of when you know, like 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:04.640 there's no point in arguing with this person because they 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.520 kind of theologic got the window. A lot of the time. Um, 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:09.280 I've seen that. I've seen that a lot more recently. 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:12.800 Well No, I mean, I just think I think it's 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.000 it's good to have discussions about things I wouldn't say. 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.959 It's like an argument. You're not saying things to put 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.400 down the other person or to like the intention is 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:24.680 always to have fun and to banter. Um. And so yeah, 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.280 I think there's nothing wrong with challenge person making them 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.600 grow a little bit and keeping them on their toes. Yeah, 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:33.360 it's like when you wrote an essay in high school. 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.640 You uh, you always have to make your point and 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.200 then make a counterpoint, and that's that's how you do 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:40.840 an right I guess, um, all right, well, yeah, thank 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.080 you so much. But let's move over to de Andre. 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:47.640 So uh d'andre. We met you on Bachelor? Was it 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:51.000 Matt season, Peter season, Peter season? Yeah, and then we 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:54.600 met you again on Bachelor in Paradise. Yes, okay, so 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.200 I don't I don't watch a lot of those shows, 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.120 funny enough, So could you feel feel the listener is 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.000 in that definitely already know you, but mostly filled me? 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:05.240 And I'm kind of like your experiences on the show, 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.640 what you were doing beforehand, what you're doing now? Um. So, 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:13.040 beforehand I went on the show, I was originally a 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.840 long time ago. Um, I was just working a regular 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:17.959 job that I didn't like. So when I left it 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.040 on the show, I was really excited because it gave 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.800 me the opportunity to date. I felt like ever since 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.640 I graduated college and I got into the working world, 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:27.000 I was like, I want to meet someone, I want 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:28.960 to get married, Like that was my timeline. I had 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.400 that like in the back of my head always. So 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.520 when I went on the show Peter season, UM, it 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:39.280 wasn't my favorite experience. Honestly. I think that just being 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:41.560 in the environment with one man and so many women, 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.440 it just kind of showed me that that's not the 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.000 kind of dating but I want to do. And I 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.120 don't think it makes you value yourself because you're trying 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.560 to mold yourself into what they want you to be, essentially, 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.240 especially when you have so many different women around. So 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.880 when I left um the Bachelor, I was like, Okay, 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:57.560 well that was a weird experience for me, but it 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.440 kind of like shifted my thinking into like what I 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:02.680 actually wanted in life, and I felt like I needed 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:06.560 to date more and like be like find myself outside 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.240 of what I thought I was originally. UM. So then 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.040 I went to Bachelor in Paradise and it was definitely 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.360 it was way a way better experience. It allowed me 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:19.520 to date multiple people and not have to conform into 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.520 what I thought someone wanted me to be, and I 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.680 think that was ultimately the best thing. I didn't find 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:26.800 anyone that I had a connection with on the beach, 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.960 so obviously went home. Um, but it was a really 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:31.640 great experience. I met a lot of people. I met 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.640 Kendall for the first time and she's great and I 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.760 made a lot of friendships. But life post show, I'm 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:42.520 in pharmaceutical sales and um, I do like influencing. I 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.200 like to say, like content creation, television, you know, speaking, 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:49.400 and I'm not like an influencer. But I've definitely been 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.360 more focused on just me. I'm not really dating right now, 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:55.720 just discovering myself. I'm actually in Los Angeles right now. 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:59.800 I didn't know you lived in Los Angeles, Kendall. Oh yeah, 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:03.800 let's hang out. Yeah. I was a star for this 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:05.480 and I saw that you were in l A. And 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:06.960 I was like, dang it, I'm like out of the 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:11.840 country now, but I'm coming back. Uh so let's hang out. Amazing, Yeah, 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:13.440 because I'm here short term, but I actually kind of 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.480 want to move here, so like that's something that I'm 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:18.040 considering right now. I just the rent here is ridiculous 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.840 compared to Texas. Texas is amazing. Just talk about it 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.920 right now. Definitely, Yeah, But that's kind of the decision 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:25.600 I'm like weighing on right now, is if I'm going 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:27.200 to stay in l A or go back to Dallas. 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.520 So you're in l A for work for the pharmaceutical thing. Um, 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.360 so I'm remote so I can work from here. And 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:35.160 then also I wanted to come to l A because 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.200 I want to transition out of it eventually. I don't 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.360 think that pharmaceutical sales is gonna be my forever job. 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.400 So I kind of came here to just test the waters. 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:44.600 But I love more so like the environment here, Like 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.680 everybody's super creative and you feel very comfortable here, and like, 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.400 I feel like there's a lot of growth that can 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:51.960 be had in l A. So that's where my mind 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:53.880 is right now. Which part of l A? Are you? 0:16:54.320 --> 0:17:02.160 I'm spoiled right now? I'm in West Hollywood, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.320 right across from Grove. No, you're right next to You're 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.200 really close to me. Then, well, I can't stay here 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.280 because this is like this has had me spoiled and 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:10.840 I can need to move. This is like an Airbnb 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:12.760 kind of and it's way too effecting and I'm like, 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:14.760 I gotta go. But I just don't know where else 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.240 to go in California because I feel like everyone's like 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.280 there are some good places and I'll I'll help in 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.399 a place I have some friends. Please, I will text you. 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.800 I'll make you stay here. Okay, I mean I agree. 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:28.920 I think definitely definitely stay in l A. I'm a 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:30.800 big fan of the West Side. I know Kendall has 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:32.480 been a West Hollywood girl for a long time, but 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.760 I'm a big fan of um like Venis and Santa 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:38.159 Monica and stuff and imply it. But hey, that's just me. 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.960 Um No, my my boyfriend's and Hermosa so I get 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:46.560 to steal some peaches. Does he does your boyfriend work for? Um? SpaceX? 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:51.520 Not SpaceX. I don't know the name of his company. 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.359 Um it's in Hermosa though. Um, but yeah, he does 0:17:54.440 --> 0:18:07.480 volleyball and stuff there. It's a really cool community, all right. 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:09.040 The enter back to you real quick. So, okay, so 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.360 you're in l A. You were on Bachelor in Paradise, 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.240 but you didn't make a connection with anyone, but I 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.240 do remember you on that season. Um, so tell me 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.600 about Bachelor in Paradise in your experience, because I agree 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:21.719 with you. I think it's a much better format. It's 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.000 a lot easier to get there and relax and actually 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:25.680 have a good time instead of being stressed out the 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:30.560 whole time. I think I'm sure Kendall would agree to. UM. So, well, 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.080 what was your experience like, like, you know, not coming 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:34.800 out of it with a romantic connection, but you came 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:36.639 out with a lot of friendships and stuff. Do you 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:38.760 wish you could go back and do things differently or 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:40.640 are you kind of happy with how it all played out? 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:44.479 I think no matter what, even if I did went 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.480 back and did thing things differently, I think that same 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:48.280 outcome would have come. So I guess I would just 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.200 leave it right where it is. UM, I liked it. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:54.840 I felt like as far as my connection with the men, 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.919 like I wish that there were more people that I 0:18:57.960 --> 0:18:59.720 was like super aligned with. I think that would have 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:01.719 made my experience that much better. Like the men, they 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:04.480 were amazing and great and like they found their respective people. 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.320 But I think it's frustrating that like being on the 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.040 Bachelor and then going and like to Paradise, not having 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:12.480 even a strong connection like leaving or someone that I 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:15.560 talked to afterwards. I think that's open my thing or 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:19.520 my theme with being on the franchise or like in 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:21.960 the like Bachelor and then Bachelor in Paradise. That's what 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.440 I would kind of frustrated. It's like I'm wondering why 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.920 I haven't found a strong connection at least once. Um, 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:30.679 But I loved my experience in Paradise. If I had 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:34.119 the opportunity to go again, I would just want to 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:35.600 like have an idea of like what kind of men 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:37.960