1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Cadino and rich Podcast. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from five 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: to seven Eastern to the four. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: Find your local station for Comedo on Rich at Foxsports 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on 7 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app like searching FSR. 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 3: What's the saying Eron Torres? Can't we just let sleeping 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 3: dogs lie? Is that the that the phrase? I believe 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 3: that the old adage of what is done is done, 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 3: let it be and move on. That is not happening 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 3: with the dynasty that is the New England Patriots. Welcome in. 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 3: It is a Wednesday. You've made it through half of 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 3: the week. You got a few more days to go, 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 3: but you're on the backside of it. So congratulations. Not 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 3: only is Aeron Torres here with me, so is Jason Stewart, 17 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: Ryan Smith and Moncy Belanos. In about twenty three minutes 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: or so, ultimate fail in one of our favorite game shows. 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: We're gonna bring it to you and break it down 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 3: like only Cavino and Rich Wood. That's all coming up 21 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: on a Wednesday here on Fox Sports Radio. As Robert 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: Craft and Bill Belichick are at it again. Not only 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: are the two sides apparently on opposite sides. The last 24 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: time Aaron that I remember these two really going at 25 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 3: it was privately over one Tom Brady and Jimmy Garoppolo 26 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: and who the sides wanted to keep, and ultimately Robert 27 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: Craft says, we're keeping Tom Brady, So Jimmy Garoppolo, you're 28 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 3: going to be sent to the San Francisco forty nine ers. 29 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 3: There was no era A parents at that time for 30 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 3: New England. So Robert Craft wins that one. Bill Belichick 31 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 3: ends up leaving as the Patriots coach. We now know 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: he's the head coach at North Carolina. But these two 33 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: apparently have a different sort of view in their history 34 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: of how things went down with the Patriots and really 35 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: how things started with the New England Patriots. 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: It is the story that just will not die. And 37 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: I know this is going to be a theme over 38 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: the next fifteen twenty minutes as we discussed this conversation. 39 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: But I will say this is that the thing that 40 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: I I guess annoying is the right way I find 41 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: this story to be a little bit boring and annoying. 42 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: Not that I don't think we should be talking about it. 43 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: I'm the one that kind of mentioned it to you 44 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: this morning. But the thing about the Patriots dynasty is 45 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: it's over. Brady's gone, Belichick's gone, Gronk's gone, Edelman's gone, 46 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: Bruski's gone, Rightbell was gone. I guess he's technically back. 47 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: The only person that is still there from the glory 48 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: days is Robert Kraft. But that era of Patriots football 49 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: is over. And so no matter whose side you're on, Belichick, 50 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: Brady Craft, Belichick had nothing to do with it. 51 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: Belichick was the whole thing. 52 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: Your opinion isn't going to change because there is no 53 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: new info. 54 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: But we got two old guys. 55 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: Have you ever seen that video of the two like 56 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 2: CFL football players that haven't seen each other in years 57 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: and they start fighting in the retirement home and they're 58 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: like swinging their canes at each other. 59 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: That's what this is. 60 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: There's nothing that can change anyone's opinion on what happened 61 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 2: with the Patriots, no matter how many times Robert Kraft 62 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: talks about it, no matter how many times Bill Belichick responds. 63 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: And that's the fascinating part to me is that on 64 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: July sixteenth of twenty twenty five, what is this now? 65 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: Five full years after Tom Brady left New England, Belichick 66 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: released a statement in mid July to talk about it. 67 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: It's just it's wild to me that these two guys 68 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: care so much about this thing all these years later. 69 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: Well that's because Robert Kraft was on the Dudes on 70 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: Dudes podcast hosted by Gronk and Julian Edelman, and said, 71 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: this is and this is Craft's revision is history. I'll 72 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: give you a setup of how Bellich ended up responding. 73 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: But what Kraft said was that in nineteen ninety nine, 74 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 3: when he hired Bill Belichick, he was the one that 75 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: took the biggest risk. He's, oh, we have the audio 76 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 3: from it. Let's hear it. Let's yeah, better than me, 77 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: let's hear from Robert Craft. 78 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 4: I think getting Bill Belichick to come to the Patriots 79 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety nine it was a big risk, and 80 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: I got hammered in the Boston media. But I think 81 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 4: he was with us for twenty four years and we 82 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 4: did Okay. 83 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 3: So Robert Kraft explaining his reasoning on how he was 84 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: the risk taker that started the Patriots dynasty. There is 85 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: no debating that the Patriots took a different turn with 86 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 3: Robert Kraft as their owner. But what an interesting sort 87 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: of I don't know, domino effect, because when Tom Brady, 88 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: Bill Belichick, and Robert Craft were together, they were winning 89 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: Super Bowls, they were playing in Super Bowls. They were 90 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 3: a perennial contender year in and year out, and the 91 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: best dynasty dynasty that we've seen in National Football League history. 92 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 3: So then Brady leaves and guess what, the Patriots are 93 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: kind of mid before ultimately just falling flat. Then Belichick 94 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: leaves and they've still been after another year with Jod 95 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 3: Mayo as their head coach, completely flat. So now you've 96 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 3: subtracted Belichick and the team took a downward spiral, and 97 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 3: so now Robert Craft is the only one there. This 98 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: is where I think Robert Kraft is. We'll get to 99 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: Belichick's part. This is why I think Robert Craft is 100 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: saying this number one, because he's the only one left. 101 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: And so you think to yourself, well, then, okay, well 102 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: Robert Craft had nothing to do with this. This is 103 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: all Brady and Belichick. I also think Robert Craft wants 104 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: to go into the Hall of Fame. Sure, and at 105 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: some point he's been up for consideration as well. We've 106 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 3: seen owners in there, and he probably wants to go 107 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: in as morbid as this sounds, before he dies, well, 108 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: wants that honor. So now, if no one's gonna toot 109 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 3: your horn and tell you what you've done, why don't 110 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 3: you do it? 111 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: If you're Robert Craft. 112 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: That's an important point because you know, the one guy 113 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: that gets, at least in my opinion, maybe you disagree 114 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 2: that gets. It's a question of Belichick, Brady, Brady Belichick, 115 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: And depending on what point we had this conversation in 116 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: the last twenty years, there's a different percentage for different guys. 117 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: Right at certain points it was more Belichick, then it 118 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: was more Brady than it was more Belichick than Brady 119 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: leaves he wins the Super Bowl. Now I think most 120 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: people would agree that it was more Belichick than Brady, 121 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 2: or more Brady than Belichick. The guy that never gets 122 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: talked about is Robert Craft. And you know, he was 123 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 2: the only one there besides those two for all of 124 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: that entire era. And I do think he deserves some credit, 125 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: you know, kind of stayed out of the way. He 126 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: probably deserves actually a lot of credit because he wasn't 127 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: a helicopter owner, he wasn't, you know, Matt Ishbia or 128 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: somebody demanding to be involved or wanting to be involved 129 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: or being overly involved. You let the football people do 130 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: the football stuff. You let the players play. But that's 131 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: probably part of it too, is like he's probably like, hey, 132 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: it wasn't just these two guys. 133 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: I was. 134 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: I have been involved from day one as well. So 135 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: maybe that's why he wants to be involved, or he's 136 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: tooting his own home. 137 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: I'm sure he feels left out, yes, but Belichick, especially 138 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: when the Apple TV documentary came out, felt that he 139 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: was completely thrown under the bus by it. So Belichick 140 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: couldn't say much to reporters throughout his career. Now is 141 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: feeling like he has to defend his honor in response 142 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: to what you just heard from from Robert Kraft. The 143 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: funny thing is is on the craft side of things, 144 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: like I truly don't know. And I was thinking back 145 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: in time trying to think of different ownership groups that 146 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: I felt were instrumental in them winning championships, and I 147 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: can only think of the one that I thought was 148 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 3: doctor Jerry Buss. Yes, fair in relation to to what 149 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: the what the Lakers were, but it's also of doctor 150 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: Jerry Buss providing an atmosphere and doing so in a 151 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: spot to get the best players, to always get the 152 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: superstar and then bring in other big names around him. Now, 153 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 3: I don't remember anything in off hand in the National 154 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: Football League Jerry Jones. 155 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: We known say it's the exact opposite with Jerry Jones 156 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: doesn't feel like he got enough credit. 157 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 3: I think that the Steelers dynasty is wasn't wasn't Rooney based, 158 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 3: even though it's always been Rooney ownership, Like there's it's 159 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: it's a legacy, it's within the family, but we just 160 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 3: rarely have owners getting credit for their championships and their titles. 161 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: And for some reason, Robert Kraft wants that recognition. 162 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 163 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: No, And and that is an interesting point of you know, 164 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to think, you're off the top of 165 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: my head, you know, the other one, the Hunt family. 166 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: It's not like the Hunt people were like, well, you know, 167 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 2: you know, as good as good as Mahomes is, you know, 168 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 2: who doesn't get enough credit for Clark Hunt. So I 169 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: do think it's interesting by the way, Anthi Reid, Patrick Mahomes, Yeah, 170 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: I know, they didn't really knew anything for thirty years 171 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: before Reid got there. But don't forget about Clark Hunt. 172 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: Let me let me tell you about him. No, what 173 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: was I gonna say? But then the Belichick response as well, 174 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if we want to get into that elementary. 175 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do it. 176 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 3: So this was in a statement that Belichick responded to 177 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: ESPN when asked about it, Belichick says that he was 178 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: the one that basically took the big risk. Here's the statement. Quote, 179 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: as they told Robert multiple times through the years, I 180 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: took a big risk by taking the New England Patriots 181 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 3: head coaching job. I already had an opportunity to be 182 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: the head coach of the New York Jets, but the 183 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 3: ownership situation was unstable. I had been warned by multiple 184 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 3: previous Patriots coaches, as well as other members of the 185 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: media and NFL or organizations, that the New England job 186 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 3: was going to come with many internal obstacles. I made 187 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: it clear that we would have to change the way 188 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: the team was managed to regain the previously attained success. 189 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: That part of the statement that Bill Belichick made about 190 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: taking the job in New England. 191 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: Can I say something that's the least controversial thing ever, 192 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: is that they both took risks, and they are both 193 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: partly responsible I wouldn't say equally responsible in the success 194 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: of that dynasty. They did take risks, because what's the 195 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: argument about Belichick? What has he won without Brady? I know, 196 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: he made the playoffs with the Cleveland Browns, but wasn't 197 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: the greatest coach that ever lived until he had Tom Brady. 198 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: But he's also right and that he had another job 199 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: with the New York Jets and actively chose to not 200 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: take that job to come to. 201 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: Be the new England Patriots head coach. 202 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 2: So it's just, you know, I guess the thing I 203 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: think it is interesting, how so I think both these guys, 204 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 2: to your point, not only Robert Kraft, you know, being 205 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: at the end of his life wanting to get into 206 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: the Pro Football Hall of Fame, but obviously Belichick, you know, 207 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: in his what we assume final chapter at North Carolina 208 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: kind of wanting to rewrite his history as well. I 209 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: guess just the thing that I do keep coming back 210 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: to is I just don't know that no matter what 211 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: either of them says, it's going to change anyone's opinion. 212 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: If you believe Brady was ninety five percent of the reason. 213 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: There's nothing Belichick's gonna say, nothing, Kraft is gonna say 214 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: If you think it's more fifty to fifty, that's fine. 215 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: But I just I don't think there's anything that's gonna 216 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 2: change anyone's opinion at this way. 217 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 3: I have loved Bill Belichick talking about football. Yeah, I 218 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 3: felt that when he did the NFL one hundred thing 219 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: where I think he was nominated for an Emmy at 220 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: that point, it was really really good. And I think 221 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: that Bill Belichick loves to talk about football, and Bill 222 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: Belichick can be a funny guy. Didn't he wear a 223 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 3: Navy outfit like on at the Army Navy game when 224 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: it was played at Foxborough? I think, or something where 225 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: he dressed up in his old Navy gear too. Like 226 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 3: there is a part of Belichick that is the guy 227 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: that we don't know in the press that we saw 228 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: for so many years. So there is a different sort 229 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: of guy. I think lately with his relationship with Jordan Hudson, 230 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 3: it's really altered people's thinking of who Belichick is. But 231 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 3: I feel at heart Belichick is actually someone who just 232 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 3: loves football and is kind of a funny guy. You 233 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: just don't realize it. I think we all have those 234 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: people in your lives. You're like, you know what, that 235 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,359 Speaker 3: person is very funny, very witty. We know that Belichick 236 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 3: knows everything that there is about football, but you don't 237 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 3: know that that personality. And I think that's there with Belichick. 238 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: But again, like I said with the Apple TV thing, 239 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: like I said with the argument of Brady, and it 240 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 3: sure didn't help Belichick's argument. When Brady goes and wins 241 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl with Tampa Bay, no one's taking up 242 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: for Bill Belichick. No one is going to bat for 243 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 3: Bill Belichick, not even the guy that hired him in 244 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: the late nineteen nineties. And now that guy is saying 245 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: that he's the one that took the risk. The only 246 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 3: reason that Bill Belichick ended up being on Robert Kraft's 247 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 3: I guess short list in bringing him in was because 248 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: of his experience it had with Bill Parcells when they 249 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 3: were together or going to a Super Bowl in the 250 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: mid nineteen nineties. So that's where I think it's unfair 251 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: to Belichick to say. And Belichick did leave the Jets 252 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: and how the Jets situation went down with Bill Parcells, 253 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 3: that was all kind of a mess that Belichick was 254 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 3: caught up in as well. But I just this revisionist 255 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 3: history of looking back at who took the risk and 256 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 3: who did this and who did that, It just it 257 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: falls on a lot of deaf ears. That's why you think. 258 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: I think that you're saying this is kind of a 259 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 3: non story as well, because the Patriot's dynasty is what 260 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: it is, and I don't know how many people care 261 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: who takes credit for getting the things start at, whether 262 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: it be Craft or Bill Belichick. 263 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a story that is very clearly, deeply 264 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: personal to these two individuals. 265 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: Is it a story to anybody? 266 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: I mean, listen the Brady versus Bell check angle to 267 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: it will be a sports talk debate that withstands the 268 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: test of time, right, But this idea that Craft either 269 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 2: didn't get enough credit or we're trying to diminish Belichick, 270 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: it just feels extremely personal. It's why during the Tom 271 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: Brady roast, everything flew up until it was time for 272 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: Robert Craft and Bill Belichick to take a shot together. 273 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: Think about all the things that they said about Tom 274 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: Brady during that Tom Brady roast, including about his now 275 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: ex wife, None of it seemed to none of it 276 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: seemed to cross a line, and the only time that 277 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: it got weird was when Belichick and Craft were asked 278 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: to take a shot together. I'm just picturing it in 279 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: my head right now as we speak, and so I 280 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: just think that it is something that is very clearly, 281 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: deeply personal to both of them. 282 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: They do not like each other. 283 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: I just think that while it's very interesting to them, 284 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: it's two big names, it's one of the great runs 285 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: in the history of sports that we've seen. I just 286 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: don't know why we as consumers are supposed to care, 287 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: because again, there's no new chapters to It'd be like 288 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: me and you today, this would be like it'd be 289 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: like Peyton Manning releasing a statement on why he doesn't 290 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: get enough credit for his role in the Manning versus Brady. 291 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: Rivalry. 292 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: You'd be like, who cares, It's over, It's been over, 293 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: and it's just I don't know. I just I understand 294 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: why both guys are passionate about protecting their legacy. I 295 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: just don't know why it was a lead story on 296 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: ESPN today because I don't know why we as consumers 297 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: are supposed to care, And I certainly don't think there's 298 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: anything new to the story that should drag us back in. 299 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: I think Belichick's speaking and saying what he's saying, especially 300 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: after the sixty minutes debacle of what he's allowed to say, 301 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: is interesting. I also, honestly just think it's really crappy 302 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 3: of Robert Kraft to say something about Bill Belichick. What 303 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: was more in the podcast was he said, I gave 304 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 3: up a number one draft pick for a coach that 305 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: had only won a little over forty percent of his 306 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: games to get him out. It's a really crappy thing 307 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: to do to say, especially because I think we all 308 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: look back at the forty percent. We look at Bill 309 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 3: Belichick's tenure in Cleveland as one of great success because 310 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 3: he had the Browns as a playoff team and because 311 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: the team ended up being then sold and or excuse me, 312 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 3: moving should say like the tenure ended abruptly, but you 313 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: can't say that he didn't have success there. So for 314 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: him to go and use that against Bill Belichick again 315 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: after knowing everything about him from their time together in 316 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 3: New England, I just think it's a really crappy thing 317 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: for Robert Kraft to do. And what makes it worse 318 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: is that it sure seems that Robert Craft is trying 319 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 3: to say that's stuff to prop himself up, So Belichick 320 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 3: has nothing else but to do but to actually defend 321 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: his name, because it sure doesn't seem like anybody is 322 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: rushing to his defense, especially and this would tick me 323 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: off as well if groc or Edelman aren't calling Craft 324 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 3: out in terms of what he said. So now you 325 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 3: have former players who are like it or not inadvertently 326 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: brought into the mix, and all of a sudden they 327 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 3: look like they side with Robert Kraft. So if you're 328 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 3: Bill Belichick, like him or not, like it's a crappy 329 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 3: spot to be him. And if nobody else is going 330 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 3: to defend him, hemauls to defend himself. 331 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. 332 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: I'm debating if I feel any different about Gronk and Edelman. 333 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they're not journalists. 334 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: I think they're innocent like bystanders, but they get drawn 335 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: into it because they Craft said it on their podcast 336 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 3: and they didn't necessarily go up and at least I 337 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 3: don't hear anyway request. 338 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: To it, and I'm not. 339 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 2: I understand why Belichick would be mad, but it doesn't 340 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: make any of us think any different about Belichick right, Like, 341 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: it's no different than when you know, Lebron does his 342 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: podcast with Kadi and they're making fun of Jordan taking 343 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 2: time off to play baseball. It's like, doesn't make me. 344 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: They're allowed to have their opinions. It doesn't make me 345 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: feel different about Jordan though, and it again, that was 346 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: something that was kind of crappy to say about Jordan, 347 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 2: But doesn't make me me as a consumer, feel different. 348 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 3: You know, we just talked about Wyndham Clark a little 349 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 3: while ago, and in what Wyndham Clark was doing at 350 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 3: the Oakmont locker room, Oakmond didn't have to release a 351 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 3: statement as this said. The US opening comes around in 352 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 3: twenty thirty three is going far down the line. But 353 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 3: they decided to take a stand because they felt that 354 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: there was a wrong. That's kind of why I think Belichick. 355 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: Belichick could have just let it go off to the 356 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 3: ether and been like whatever, but they decided to take 357 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 3: a stand, or he decided to take a stand to 358 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 3: defend his own honor into what he did. And I 359 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 3: just think that the four forty percent, you know, the 360 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 3: forty percent win, you know, the Yeah, it's just kind 361 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 3: of passing them. He's like but I think we did okay, 362 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: and it tries to soften it, but it doesn't like 363 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 3: I'd be ticked off too if I was Bill Belichick. 364 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've kind of talked me into this a little bit, 365 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: because you know, we've I think, especially in our business, 366 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: we're certainly not as high profile as Bill Belichick, but 367 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: people say stuff about us all the time, and there's 368 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: sometimes that I think we all decide to just say 369 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 2: screw it. 370 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: I don't need to respond. 371 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: To everything, but there are certain things that are said 372 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: by certain people that you're like, you know what, screw 373 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: that guy, screw that girl, whatever. I'm not letting that 374 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 2: person say anything without me getting my side of the 375 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: story out and letting you know how I really feel 376 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: about that person. So maybe I think you've actually talked 377 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: me into it a little bit of why. Maybe the 378 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: statement from Belichick made a little bit more sense. 379 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 3: He's erin Torres. I'm dan by our final thing. Do 380 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 3: you think Bill Belichick needs to prove anything at North Carolina? 381 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 5: No. 382 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: And I'll be very quick on this, and it relates 383 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: to the Nick Sabin story from Greg McElroy earlier this week. 384 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: I don't think Sabin's coming back but I think Sabin 385 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 2: coming back would only hurt his legacy unless he leads 386 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: another school to a national championship. But I don't think 387 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: his legacy can get any higher. And I think Belichick's 388 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 2: almost the opposite. I don't think people really have crazy 389 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: high expectations for North Carolina. So like, if he goes 390 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 2: seven and five and six and six and in two years, 391 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: he's just like, I'm out. I don't think it changes 392 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 2: how we feel about Bill Belichick the head coach. I 393 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 2: do think it would change if he has a great 394 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: deal of success, We're like, oh, he actually was pretty good, 395 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: and to your point, it wasn't just a thing with Brady. 396 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 2: And you know, he did lead the Browns to the playoffs, 397 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: and he did have this great twenty year run with 398 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 2: the Patriots, and he did lead Carolina to the n 399 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: eleven in one season. Remember when that happened. So I 400 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: actually think it's the opposite. I think a good season 401 00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: or a good run elevates his legacy. I don't think 402 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 2: I think that anything short of something truly a debacle 403 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: like one and eleven whatever, I don't unless that happens, 404 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 2: I don't think it hurts his legacy. 405 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 3: And they're not going to. I think that it could. 406 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 3: I agree with you on building it up. I do 407 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 3: think that it could hurt him in a way. I 408 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: think almost North Carolina may have more of a risk 409 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: in terms of the fallout. It hasn't been good, like 410 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 3: the of what's going on in the headlines over these 411 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 3: last couple of months, and and the girlfriend aspect of it, 412 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: like it hasn't been this rosy relationship, and people are wondering, 413 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 3: g'z you're gonna make it the June first. Well he did. 414 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 3: He ended up making it that far as their head coach. 415 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 3: But then you're wondering, all right, is this just a 416 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: succession plan and so forth. But I think that there 417 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 3: it may. I don't think it was a no brainer 418 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: by any means, but I actually think that there could 419 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 3: be fallout from hiring him, whereas I don't think that 420 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 3: North Carolina thought there was when they brought him on. 421 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, really quickly. 422 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: On that point, I think it's an interesting one because 423 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: with Belichick, you know you're gonna get kind of the snarky, 424 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: mean spirited guy with the media that doesn't really give 425 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: much access to anybody. But when he was with the Patriots, 426 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: he's winning so much that it doesn't matter. If he 427 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 2: doesn't win at that level, which I think most of 428 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: us don't think he's going to, then you just kind 429 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 2: of got an old, grumpy, mean guy as your head 430 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 2: coach without any of the benefits of being maybe the 431 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 2: greatest coach of all time. 432 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: He's erin Torres. 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In for the guys who just wrapped 443 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 3: up their great coverage they had at the All Star 444 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 3: Game in Atlanta over the past few days as they 445 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 3: were in for the Dan Patrick Show. You're listening to 446 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: us right now, but did you know you can also 447 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 3: see us. Be sure to check out the Fox Sports 448 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 3: Radio YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube 449 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 3: and you'll see a whole bunch of video highlights for 450 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: our shows. Be sure to subscribe so you always have 451 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: instant access to our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. 452 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 3: I'm a big game show fan. I love game shows 453 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 3: since I was a kid. I don't know if people 454 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 3: truly think of Jeopardy as a game show. If it is, 455 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 3: it's the highest level of it because I always felt 456 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 3: growing up Jeopardy you just had to be smart, you 457 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: had to be a really, really smart person. I know 458 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 3: Jeopardy is a game show. The point I'm saying is 459 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,239 Speaker 3: I think growing up I had price is right that 460 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 3: we all still love. Let's make a deal. There's those 461 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 3: shows going on Jeopardy, quiz show. You gotta know your stuff. 462 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 3: It's not just like you get randomly picked you can 463 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 3: win ten thousand dollars. You gotta know your stuff. You 464 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 3: gotta earn it. Jeopardy has changed throughout the years, and 465 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 3: obviously Alex Trebek's passing ushered and Ken Jennings now as 466 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 3: the new host, so there are things that are different. 467 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 3: Gets taken a change. Jason Stewart is our executive producer. 468 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 3: Aaron Taurres he is smitten by Jeopardy and you record 469 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 3: every night and watched last night's episode as well. 470 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 6: It's the one thing, and I know you guys can 471 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 6: appreciate this. Everybody here, the one thing that you and 472 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 6: your significant other can do. We walk off thirty minutes 473 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 6: and we watch Jeopardy every night. She kicks my ass. 474 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 6: She gets psych for every ten answers she gets right, 475 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 6: I get one. And it's fine. That's great. And something 476 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 6: happened last night that was just extra special for us 477 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 6: in the sports industry, because we forget not everybody is 478 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 6: as tapped into sports as we are. 479 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 3: Let's hear what happened on last night's Jeopardy episode when 480 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 3: it came to this category. 481 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 7: Can we hit for the cycle for two hundred? 482 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 8: As you might guess, this hit is the rarest one 483 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 8: in the cycle. Ellie de la Cruz completed the feed 484 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 8: with one June twenty third, twenty three, the home run 485 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 8: No Scott A Carl the triple much rareer than the 486 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 8: home run. 487 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 3: Okay to you, Pete, Yeah sorry, Pete. We're gonna take 488 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 3: it from here. I want to break this down Ryan. 489 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 3: If you can get the if you can get the 490 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 3: pause button, ready can you play Can you play that again? 491 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 7: Can we hit for the cycle for two hundred? 492 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 8: As you might guess, this hit is the rarest one 493 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 8: in the cycle. Ellie de la Cruz completed the feed 494 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 8: with one June twenty third. 495 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So can I ask really quick? 496 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: Was a cycle like? Was the cycle in baseball the 497 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: entire category? Or was this one question in cycle related? 498 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 6: It was like a kind of like an MLB All 499 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 6: Star kind of like category baseball cycles. 500 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, okakay, And so basically single, double, triple, and 501 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 3: home run weren't all of the answers. Obviously as you 502 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 3: went along, they didn't know that this one was the 503 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 3: answer that they needed. But I paused it at that 504 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 3: point because this is my problem with Jeopardy right now. 505 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 3: If you were maybe a Reds fan like you would 506 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 3: you would be like, oh, I remember when you know 507 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 3: Elie de la Cruz had that that triple and he 508 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 3: got the cycle. The question is, I feel in the 509 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 3: old days would have been it's the most difficult, you 510 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 3: know piece to get in the cycle. It would have 511 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 3: just that would have been the question. Now I feel 512 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: that Jeopardy tries to lead you on and give you 513 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 3: hints to dumb it down for the contestants, and to 514 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 3: your point, as I told you this before, and you 515 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: think it's for the listener of the viewer at home. 516 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Jay Stu plays with his significant other. 517 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 2: I like watching it and listen nobody nobody wants to 518 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: feel too dumb where they're like, well, there's no reason 519 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: for me to tune in because I can't get any 520 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: of these questions right. I will say, though, to your point, 521 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if I've gotten smarter through the years. 522 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 2: I don't think that's the answer, but it does feel 523 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: like I'm getting more questions as time goes on. Jason Stewart, 524 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: you kind of know what I'm talking about. What's your 525 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 2: theory on this? 526 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 3: Like these added little clues that I feel that they 527 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 3: put into these questions or should I say answers. 528 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 6: So this is how nerdy we are. On the weekends 529 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 6: when there is not a new episode to watch, we 530 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 6: watch Game Show Network prior episodes. So we've been watching 531 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 6: a lot of the twenty twenty five years ago when 532 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 6: Ken Jennings was actually a contestant stuff. And I think 533 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 6: I noticed this. The questions back then, I don't think 534 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 6: were harder, but they definitely weren't as complicated. So I 535 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 6: think the questions back then were easier, And I really 536 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 6: do think the questions now are harder and they need 537 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 6: an explanation. Does that make sense? So cause I get 538 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 6: a lot more correct answers from the shows from twenty 539 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 6: years ago. 540 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 3: I really I think that these answers are leading. I 541 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 3: think they are leading you to a place. MANCEI are 542 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 3: you a Jeopardy viewer. 543 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 9: I am the person that Aaron said that doesn't watch 544 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 9: because I feel stupid af watching that because I don't 545 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 9: know a single answer, and even the sports ones, I'm like, 546 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 9: I know it, but the wording. 547 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 1: Is confusing me, and how do I do this? 548 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 9: I hate Jeopardy, but I'll watch it. 549 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 3: I think that there has been a quite a push 550 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 3: in quite a turn. I felt that the reason you 551 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 3: watched Jeopardy previously was because you were smart and Alex 552 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 3: Trebek was the star. To Aaron's point, I think you 553 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: when you're competing at home. I think that that is 554 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 3: a big part of it. I also think that Jeopardy 555 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 3: is turned into a game where the host is no 556 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 3: longer the star. It's the actual contestant Jeopardy is better 557 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 3: when Ken Jennings is there, or James Holtzauer or Amy 558 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 3: Johnson or any of their other great champions that they 559 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 3: had for on those long streaks, because that's when you 560 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: gain momentum. I think they fell on to something with 561 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 3: Ken Jennings, and then now all of a sudden, you 562 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: got Tournament of Champions, you got Tournament a While, you 563 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 3: got all these different games like that's it's now been 564 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 3: so much more about the contestant and the people at 565 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 3: home that I think that Aaron Torres is right. You 566 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 3: think the questions are harder. I think that they're much 567 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 3: easier than what they used. 568 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 6: Let me give you an example, just a totally random example, 569 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 6: and I'm probably getting the city wrong, but like they 570 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 6: will start the question by saying she won her talent 571 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 6: contest when she grew up in Flint, Michigan, and you're like, 572 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 6: there's no way in hell I'm getting that, and then 573 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 6: they'll add then she became the material girl, you know. 574 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 6: So it's like it's impossible to get the first half 575 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 6: and then they fill you into something easier. So I 576 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 6: don't know if I'm making my point correct. They are 577 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 6: harder questions that need filler, it seems nowadays when I 578 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 6: look at both shows, the contrast. 579 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: All right, let's get oh sorry, go ahead. 580 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 5: No all. 581 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: I was just saying we were talking about this a little 582 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: bit before, but that's when I watched, Like with my wife. 583 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: She gets She's like, how did you know that? And 584 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 2: I think I don't know most of the answers. You 585 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: need the context of you know, hey, you know this 586 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: state capital that starts with Q is and I don't 587 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: think there is one, but you get the point and 588 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: then it's like, oh, well that eliminates it down to three, 589 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: and then you just take a guess and if you're smart, 590 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: you know, if you if. 591 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: You get one three. 592 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 3: Aaron used the letter E like in the pre shows 593 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 3: you're kind of talking about this, so I like thought 594 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 3: of a cute like a clue, like the category is 595 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 3: E sports. And then what they will do is they 596 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 3: would say like this NHL city had a great run 597 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 3: of championships in the nineteen eighties, something to gush over, 598 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 3: and then you'd be like ed, you know, like yeah, 599 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 3: you know to Aaron's point, like okay, how many E 600 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 3: cities are there in the NHL? And then all right, 601 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: well then you and then my point is you add 602 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 3: the gushing part. Sure, oh there's a hint of leading 603 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 3: you to the to the other answer. I get Jason's part, 604 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 3: but I don't think it's as simplistic as his material. 605 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: Girl, clue, see what the problem is. We're all nerds. 606 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: None of us are big enough as Jay Stu to 607 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: go back and watch episodes from twenty five years ago 608 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 2: to have the full context. 609 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: So but we're we're we're sports nerds, and I always 610 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: feel dumb when they Hadler They're like, let's do Shakespeare. 611 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 3: That's when I leave, like, you know, he absolutely Shakespeare 612 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: for two thousand. I don't even I pick up my 613 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 3: phone like that's what I do at that point. My 614 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 3: favorite one is, uh, Babylonia for eight hundred. Who knows 615 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: anything about Babylonia? 616 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: What is that? 617 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: So here's the question though, as sports people, you'll see 618 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: like the two thousand dollars sports question, and the answer 619 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: would be like this Buffalo Bill's quarterback who just was 620 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: on the fringe of a super Bowl And we're like, obviously, 621 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. So for all these actual smart people are 622 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: they are they sitting there like, well, duh, it's obviously 623 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: Romeo and Juliet. 624 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: Yes, I think they are. 625 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: I think there are. Obviously, obviously it was Macbeth a idiot. 626 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 3: That's what makes the last part of this. Can you 627 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 3: just play the rest of it just quickly, then we'll 628 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 3: get to Manzi, who's been waiting patiently for giving us 629 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: the update. 630 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: Go ahead and play the clue over if if you want. 631 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 8: Twenty twenty three, Pete, what's the home run? No, scot 632 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 8: he carl the triple, that's rare. 633 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 3: That's Jason's favorite part is heat. The home run was 634 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 3: wrong by the way he thought. He was like the 635 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 3: home run like, yeah, suck it, suck it, but that 636 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 3: wasn't And then the other two well radio silo. 637 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 6: The essence of this is that it's a two hundred 638 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 6: dollars question. It's in the first round. There's literally no 639 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 6: risk to get in it wrong. So once home run's 640 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 6: taken off the board, you only you're down to a 641 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 6: multiple choice, which you know you never get multiple choice 642 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 6: on Jeopardy, So click in and pick one of the 643 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 6: other three. You probably know it's not a single. But 644 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 6: I'm thinking these people are such nerds and don't know 645 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 6: anything about sports. They don't even know what the others are. 646 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's what I thought. Grand Slam? What is 647 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 3: Grand Slam? 648 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: Well, did you guys saw the page Beckers Caitlyn Clark 649 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: clue the other day where the answers page Beckers. They 650 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: were like this women's basketball player and the first person 651 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: who is Kaitlyn Clark? 652 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: He's like, sorry, that's wrong? 653 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: And then no one knew any other women's basketball player 654 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 2: on the planet, So that's kind of incredible. 655 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 3: What is sacrifice punt? What's hank, Aaron, that's oh man 656 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 3: so good? I used to never mind who cares? We 657 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 3: were at Town of Town. Let's got to Montzi giving 658 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: us the latest. I can talk about game shows for days. 659 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 660 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 5: the nationet Catch all of our shows at Fox Sportsradio 661 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 5: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Fox Sports Radio 662 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 5: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch 663 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 5: all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com 664 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 5: and within the iHeartRadio app. 665 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 3: Give me an own red chere on Fox Sports Radio. 666 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 3: He's Aaron Torres, I'm Dan Byer, Monzi Blanos, This yere 667 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 3: Jason Stewart and Ryan Smith. As we wrap up the show, 668 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 3: Glad to have you with us. Aaron and I will 669 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 3: be back tomorrow as well, hanging out. Will also be 670 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 3: in for the Doug Gottlieb Show, so looking forward to that. 671 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 3: Open Championship first round will be wrapped up or nearly 672 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 3: wrapped up when we hit the airways, so I'll have 673 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 3: something to say about that. Yeah, whatever happens at a 674 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 3: Royal Port rush. You heard the Jeopardy music. We're talking 675 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 3: game shows because of this question that aired last night 676 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 3: on Jeopardy. 677 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 7: Can we hit for the cycle for two hundred? 678 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 8: As you might guess, this hit is the rarest one 679 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 8: in the cycle. Ellie de la Cruz completed the feed 680 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 8: with one. June twenty third, twenty twenty three, Pete, what's 681 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 8: the home run? 682 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: No, Scott Karl got Pete's so cocky triple? 683 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 3: Thank you seriously, Like, what's the home run? Give me 684 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 3: the night four? No, it was wrong. He was about 685 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 3: to be like, I'll take Circle of Life for four 686 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 3: under whatever the category was just so so arrogant, and 687 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 3: then I think the other players were scared off by 688 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 3: his arrogance and didn't even want to take a chance 689 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 3: at it because of how he looked foolish in that 690 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 3: that's a two hundred question. So here's here's what I 691 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 3: wanted to transition to with Wheel of Fortune. I think 692 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 3: wheel of Fortune backed by Jeopardy when it's Jeopardy first, 693 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 3: wheel of Fortune second is perfect because if you don't 694 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 3: have a chance in Jeopardy, you got a real good 695 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 3: chance at wheel of Fortune. Are you a wheel of Fortune? 696 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: Moncey? 697 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 3: Are you? 698 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: I like you better? 699 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 9: But I still suck at it. I'm still making up 700 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 9: things that aren't on phone. 701 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 3: Still, it brings more people into the game Shakespeare. Here 702 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 3: we're talking letters and and with Wheel of Fortune you 703 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 3: can even guess a letter. And when they get it wrong, 704 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 3: if you say like guess and s and they go 705 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 3: and then there's no end. 706 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 1: You're like idiots, idiots. 707 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, But I feel it's they work 708 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 3: so well off each other. And I know they're not 709 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 3: back to back in every single market across the country, 710 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 3: but a lot of them they are. And in ours 711 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 3: in Southern California, in Los Angeles, we have a Jeopardy 712 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 3: followed by a Wheel of Fortune. And I feel like 713 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 3: the first part of Jeopardy is okay, if you did 714 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 3: have a chance there, just wait thirty minutes because you're 715 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 3: gonna have a chance a wheel of fortune. 716 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the opposite of you, guys, is I'm good 717 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 2: at random trivia and I'm good at piecing the clues 718 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 2: together of oh Flint, Michigan. Well, it's down to these 719 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: four people. For some reason, I guess I'm just not 720 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 2: a visual learner. I suck at Wheel of Fortune. It's like, 721 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 2: oh yeah, I can't even analogize it here on air. 722 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 3: But my favorite wheel of fortune, and I don't know 723 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 3: if you're watching with significant others, is there are just 724 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 3: other people in the room. When people are like blank, blank, 725 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 3: the blank and blank, like. 726 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, we all know the and. 727 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 3: Like just because you said it out loud first doesn't 728 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 3: give you DIBs on this puzzle that you like gave 729 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 3: us the pathway to the answer, Like we know it's 730 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 3: the or, and like we understand that that's one of 731 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 3: my favorites. 732 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, the H in the middle kind of gives away 733 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 2: that it's the in the three letter word, buddy. 734 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 3: Oh, there's also the thing about will of fortune where 735 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 3: you feel smarter because you solved it before they did. 736 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: Sure, there's a chance for that, but but a lot. 737 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 3: Of times they're just spinning for more money, so they 738 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 3: knew the puzzle three letters ago when you didn't. But 739 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 3: because they keep on spinning, you're like idiots. It's you know, 740 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 3: it's like you know, for whom the bell tolls, it's 741 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 3: right there. 742 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 2: The opposite is true as well, is that you get 743 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 2: annoyed when everybody knows what it is and there are 744 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 2: still spins to be had to run up the score 745 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 2: and run up your point total, your money total, and 746 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 2: you end up being like, no, I'll solve it there, 747 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 2: and you're like, just take the f dude, four hundred bucks. 748 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 3: It's giraffe, Like, you know, it's giraffe. You can spend 749 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 3: more money, yes, and you got two of them there. Oh, 750 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 3: there's so much. There's so much with it. We can 751 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 3: talk game shows more times we want as well. For 752 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 3: erin Torres, Monzi, Belonials, Jason Stewart and Ryan Smith. 753 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm Dan Byer. This is Cavino and Rich on Fox 754 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Happy Wednesday,