1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: look at things. Drew Doherty and John Harris have their 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: lab coats and goggles on and the Bunsen burners burning. 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: Here's Drew, John, It's here, it is here, It is here, 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: it is here less than a day away, well about 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: a day away, for we're shooting this on a Wednesday morning. 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: This is in the Lab, presented by Infinity. I'm Drew Doerty, 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: You're John Harris, and you're you. The three of us 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: together are gonna embark on a fun little mock draft simulation. 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 2: We've done these throughout the spring and winter. It's never 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: really winter in Houston, but anyways, it was winter on 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: the calendar in Houston, and this will be the last one. 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: You excited? 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 3: Uh, yes and no, you know, Drew. People say this 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: to me all the time. It's like, this is like 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: your Christmas. I'm like, man, what kind of Christmas does 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: you guys have? Because I end up I'm on live 18 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 3: radio for like seventeen hours over the weekend. I'm righting 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: all kinds of articles, I'm doing all kinds of writing. 20 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 3: I don't know about your Christmas, man, but might not 21 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: look like that My Christmas is sending the couch, eat 22 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 3: a bunch of candy and cakes and good food, and 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: watch football and basketball. 24 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: All day and the Texans. No, that's a different story. 25 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: Then it's work, and I like that work. But this 26 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: is work. But yeah, it's fun. 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 3: I mean all basically, it's like exams you're like doing 28 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: I'm doing all the prep work for the exam, so 29 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: once I get to the exam, I got all the 30 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: answers to the test questions. But I think what's fun 31 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: about this, Drew is you know, this is lying season. 32 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: Who's telling the truth? 33 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 4: Who's not. 34 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: You could trade up, you could trade down, you can 35 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: stick and pick, like yeah that those are the three 36 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 3: options basically. So I'm curious to see who's been lying 37 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: to us this whole time, and not the textans so much, 38 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: but you know, who's been telling the truth about these 39 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: particular players. And then what do you find out after 40 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: the draft, like, oh, well I didn't I didn't know 41 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: that guy committed murder and that's why he felt to 42 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: the seventh round. 43 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 4: You know, you just find out some of those things too. 44 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: So hopefully that's not the case for anybody draft, but 45 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 3: it does unearth. 46 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: The lies yeah, if you will. Once the draft is over. 47 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun to see. I can't wait. So 48 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: this is Wednesday, we're doing this, releasing it Wednesday afternoon, 49 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 2: this podcast. On Thursday, around lunchtime, the final mock Draft 50 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: round up will come out. Oh, you might say, well, 51 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: why don't you just put it out today? Well, because most, 52 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: not most, but many mock drafters, a significant amount of 53 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: mock drafters don't release theirs until Thursday morning, Thursday late morning. Yeah, 54 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: so you want to get the the most relevant ones 55 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: in and that will come out. And then there's always 56 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: some folks that are pretty big timers and they only 57 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: do one and wait till this week, or they wait 58 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: till tomorrow. So it's coming together. It's coming together. It'll 59 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: be out around lunchtime. I'm not gonna say eleven. I'm 60 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: not gonna say noon. I'm not gonna say one because 61 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: it might not be any of those, it might be 62 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: something around that. So just be ready look out for it, 63 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: be on your Twitter feed and it'll be a lot 64 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: of fun. But the way it's going right now, offensive 65 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: line is gonna be the pick in the minds of 66 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: the mockers. But there's only one mind. Ultimately that matters, 67 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: and Nick Asario will make that call on Thursday evening. 68 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: Yes, do you like the fact I'm paying homage with 69 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: my vest today? 70 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: So good looking vest? 71 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? 72 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: Stylish. So with all that in mind, since we're talking 73 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: about minds, and our minds are nice, but they're not 74 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: the ones that make the decision. But we're going to 75 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: try and get inside the mind of the man who's 76 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 2: making the decision. But that's still impossible. But nevertheless, let's 77 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: do a mock draft simulation for the final time in 78 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, and let's share the screen and let's 79 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: go go to Pro Footballnetwork dot com. I want to 80 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: make sure we let our friends there know how much 81 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: we appreciate, how much fun we have and how they've 82 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: created an addiction for us. 83 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: That's a good way of putting it. 84 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: In addition for getting me in your football NFL draft 85 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: A crack ya. So where you're doing seven rounds as 86 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: you see me circling there, always do fast, because if 87 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: you do anything fast, you're a sucker. MC And we 88 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: clicked on the Texans and we're entering our solo draft 89 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: and here we go. 90 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: Let's start it. Cameron Ward goes number one to the 91 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 4: Tennessee Titans. No big surprise, Hey, okay. 92 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: Fly off the board and trades come up. I see 93 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: one from the Bengals wonning twenty five and two forty 94 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: one for forty nine eighty one and a two next year. 95 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: I think that's a little too little, and then kind 96 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: of one from the Chargers that I think is a 97 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: little too little. It's a lot, but I just can't 98 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: do that. And I don't want Royal Canadian whiskey. I'm 99 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 2: sorry about that. Folks got the the ad got me there, 100 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: but I want to take the pick. And we see 101 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: Derek Carmon there, and Derek Carmon, I think it's going 102 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 2: to be a really good prop. But he's gonna be 103 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: a productive guy. He's enticing. But the name right below him, 104 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:49,119 Speaker 2: John Tyler Booker, is by all accounts of the best guard 105 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 2: in the draft. Maybe that maybe the best lineman. You 106 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: could make that argument, probably not, but he's there. He 107 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: went to Alabama. Will Anderson has gushed about him. Many 108 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: others have gushed about You've told the story many times 109 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: how the folks at Alabama rave about his leadership, and 110 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: then on top of it, he's a fantastic player. Is 111 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: this the pick is too too much of a no 112 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: brainer because a Booka's there a great. 113 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 3: Za those five picks, those five players that we see 114 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: harmony eighteen for them, Booker twenty four, Nolan twenty six, 115 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: Zabel twenty seven, Meco Bukat twenty nine. Any of those 116 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 3: five I would feel even Walter Nolan, I know he's 117 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: had some you know there there are always some you know, 118 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 3: anger issues, whatever you want to call him, you frustration. 119 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: Fine, and Danny, you wipe your hands and say that's 120 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: a cool pick. I'm fine with it. 121 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: I'd be okay with that because I think they would 122 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 3: surround him in the locker room and really make the 123 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 3: most of that. But you know what I've said, Booker, 124 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: no matter what's Booker, golden, no matter what. 125 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: For me. 126 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: So Booker is there, I think this is I'm so 127 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 3: glad to see him there. Let's snatch him up at 128 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: twenty five. 129 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: Now, a couple of gen xers, you and me, it's 130 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 2: not Booker, It's not Richard Griico Booker. It's Tyler Booker. Booker, 131 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: not Booker. T We love Booker. 132 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 4: T Okay. Now we're on a fifty eight and second round. 133 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: Cowboys want to trade get bent, Cowboys. We're not giving 134 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: up that for now. Boys offering seventy six and a 135 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: third for this pick. Here is this is enticing from Cleveland. 136 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: You're they're they're offering you to move back just a bit, 137 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: so you move into the third, but it's the top 138 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: of the third, and then you add an at pick 139 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: ninety four for pick one sixty six, late third. I'm 140 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: intrigued by that. But look, let's look who's on the board. John, Yeah, 141 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: this name Kenneth Grant. Yeah, enticing at fifty eight, the 142 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 2: thirty nine right below Travon Henderson. That's my draft crush. 143 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, And I even texted you during games 144 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: this year. 145 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:44,559 Speaker 1: Man. 146 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: I like that Travon Henderson. Then there's some other names 147 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: down there, Mason Taylor, a pretty good tight end, t J. Sanders, 148 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: defensive tackle. I'm gonna defer to you on this one. 149 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 4: It's for me. 150 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: It's it's between Kenneth Grant, Travon Henderson, and I make 151 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: Henderson the call. But I will defer to you. You 152 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: got to you gotta make this call now. 153 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: I have Kenneth Grant rated higher than I do Traveon Henderson. 154 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: Uh, and I do think Kenneth Grant would definitely help. 155 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: Now. 156 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 3: I feel like Henderson's a home run hitter. You don't 157 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: have offensively home run you know how. We kind of 158 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 3: had to slog through offensively last year, especially after Steph 159 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: went down. 160 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 4: It was a slog It was just it was hard. 161 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 3: We didn't have any really home run hitters seemingly, as 162 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: you know, Joe's a home run hitter. But Joe has 163 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: to be the f one fifty. You know, you can't 164 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: just go bring the Maserati out for you know, a 165 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: little day drive when you need it. 166 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: The f one fifty does not do one ay five. 167 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: But Joe's got game breaking abilities, no question. 168 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: I don't want to overlook that, but I just feel like, man, 169 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: we need we need some big plays. 170 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 4: Henderson's a guy that can create it. 171 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 3: Drew, I'm actually going to defer to you on this 172 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: one because I think Travion Henderson would be as much 173 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: as I think Trenches a lot. I think Henderson being 174 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: there at fifty eight, I would want to jump all 175 00:07:59,600 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: over this. 176 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: Kenneth Grant love you. I hope you go to an 177 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: NFC team and don't haunt our games for the next 178 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: decade or so. But let's go with Oh, you know 179 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: where Kennth Grant's going. Look at this. Look at the 180 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: pick right after ours fifty nine Ravens. Yeah, watch you 181 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: watch this good and pick Henderson. See what happens. 182 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: No, he didn't go, but he went a couple of 183 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: picks before that, a couple picks after that, So not 184 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: too surprising. 185 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: But I could see the Ravens jumping over Kenneth Grant. 186 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: We don't want to move back twenty in ato. 187 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: Now it's seventy nine. No, we don't want to do that. 188 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: We don't want to do this one either. Fifteen. So 189 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: let's make a pick. Jackson Dart's still there. I bet 190 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: he goes before this, you know, I don't think he goes. Yeah, 191 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 2: I don't think he gets this kind of a put 192 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: a an astress by this. Okay, Mason Taylor, you like 193 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: him tight end. 194 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 3: Lsu Yeah, I mean I've comped him to Dalton Schultz, 195 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: and I think Mason's I think Mason's probably a little 196 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: bit of a better blocker at this point, maybe than 197 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: the Dalton was. But I don't know if that's a 198 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: little redundant tight end wise, I don't know. I mean, 199 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: look Tyler, Terrence Ferguson's he's down there. Terrence fergus from 200 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 3: Oregon is still on the board. I really like watching 201 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: him at the Senior Bowl. In fact, I've got those 202 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: two graded about the same. I mean, I don't think 203 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: there's as much gap between Mason Taylor and Terrence Ferguson. 204 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 3: Harrold fannag Junior is an interesting one, but I think 205 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: you kind of have Harrold Fanna Junior in Brevin Jordan. 206 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 3: And I know Brev's coming back off of the knee injury, 207 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: but I think Fanned would fit for a number of teams, 208 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: and if the text ended up taking him, I could 209 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 3: see them using him. He's kind of an interesting dude, 210 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 3: kind of a tight end h back move guy. 211 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 4: I don't even think it's his tight end. He's not 212 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: really a wide tight end. 213 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: I mean he's kind of a full back move guy, 214 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 3: which is kind of what Brev's done. It's kind of 215 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: what gate Stover did last year. But picked seven or 216 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 3: the seventy two right there on their board. 217 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: That's the one Jared Wilton so I mentioned earlier. I've 218 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 2: got a crush on Trevon Henderson this one, Jared Wilson. 219 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: I liked, Yeah, And then I heard you say, well, 220 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: he's probably the best center in this draft. 221 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the best center in this draft. I mean, 222 00:09:58,840 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 3: I think he's a pure center. 223 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 2: Now does he come in and start as a center? 224 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: Now that's a great point. I think there's gonna be 225 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: one hell of a competition. And I think some of 226 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: it has to do with you know, we got Booker. 227 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: Booker's a guard, so he's gonna play guard. So does 228 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 3: Booker's presence push Titus back out to tackle? I don't 229 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: think it does. I think a guard combo of Titus 230 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 3: and Booker would be really, really fun. So then at 231 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 3: that point you've gotten now a competition of Jared Patterson, 232 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: Jew Scruggs, who's the second rounder a few years ago. 233 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 4: Drafted both of them in twenty twenty three. 234 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: And then if you were to draft Wilson, which what 235 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: the point to me is, if I take a third 236 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: round pick in Wilson but it guarantees me that one 237 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: of the three becomes a quality center for this team, 238 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: then I'm all for it. 239 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 4: And whether it be Wilson or Juice or Jared or whomever. 240 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: You're out you're raising the tides of rights. Yeah, I 241 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 2: want to do this. 242 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 4: I really have been kind of high on Jared Wilson 243 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 4: after watch. 244 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: Single time i've had a draft where he's available around here, 245 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: I've taken him okay, good, And there's been others. Best 246 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: to Alfred, keep going trenches, let's go. Alfred Collins is 247 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: the only one that kind of makes me pause here, 248 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: but I'm I'm going for you're telling me he's a 249 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: sta center or he's gonna yield a starting center. Let's 250 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: do it. 251 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: Here's the thing too, with with the centers or the 252 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: interior off of the lineman. I just don't find the 253 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: depth there. So get the depth there, go and get 254 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: the get the highest rated guy you can get there. 255 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: Interior defensive lineman. Nine ten eleven is still pretty am good. Yeah, 256 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: so I think you can get a defensive lineman. I 257 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 3: think there will still be guys on the board ten 258 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 3: picks later that we can look at and be very 259 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: happy with. And maybe Alfred Collins is still on the board. 260 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe not. I can't see whether he came off 261 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: the board or not. But I think Alfred Collins would 262 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: be a guy I could look at seventy nine. Oclok 263 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: at eighty nine, that would be a guy. But I 264 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: think interior defensive line. There's just so many of them 265 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: in this draft. That's such a good class that I 266 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 3: would take Wilson there and then look maybe at interior 267 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 3: defensive line at this pick. 268 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: Okay, this has been an unrealistic draft so far because 269 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: for the Texans, because we have many trades we have 270 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 2: not But here's a scenario in which I would make 271 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: this trade. Okay, let's take a look to hear what 272 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: you say. I mean, how do you not do this? Okay, 273 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: we're sitting at eighty nine, move back three to get 274 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: yeah two yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean almost thirty three. 275 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 4: I like that. 276 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: Go to one thirty seven with the Seahawks. 277 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 4: Let's do it. 278 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: Like names on the board, now, listen that this does 279 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: give me. I like Jayden Higgins, he's in. Do you 280 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 2: like al? 281 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: I like Higgins a lot more than I like I 282 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: am an Ore. Okay, I like Ferguson that's left on 283 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 3: the board. 284 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: If you move back three, one of those guys are 285 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: still probably gonna be there. 286 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 4: I think that's true. 287 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: And then you also get that, so you're giving up 288 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 3: three spots here for twenty nine spots later. 289 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 4: I kind of like it. Let's do it except make 290 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 4: the trade? 291 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: All right? Ursery still there? I am man, are still there? 292 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 2: Ferguson from Ferguson's very interesting. 293 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: I love his build, I love his athleticism, very light 294 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: on his feet, good hands. I think he can be 295 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: a decent blocker. I don't think he's a great blocker now, 296 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: but I think he can be even better. I mean, 297 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: Terrence Ferguson Kate Stover would be kind of fun. Schultzen, 298 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: Schultzen Ferguson. I mean, I think you could have uh 299 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: and do some good things with Terrence Ferguson here. 300 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: But is there a red light blinking over Ersrie because 301 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: he's like the fifty six bet? I mean, do you 302 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: I know we've gone O line heavy so far, but dude, 303 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: there is do you take that best player available and 304 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 2: just do it? 305 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 3: I mean best player available, I'll probably do it. I mean, 306 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 3: he's a right tackle. If he's a tackle, big strong, 307 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 3: I mean really strong, dude, kind of stiff legged. It's 308 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 3: hard to fall in love with him or I mean 309 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 3: he's one of those guys that really kind of grew. 310 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 4: On me in this process. 311 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 3: I mean and I'm not gonna sit there and tell 312 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: you that I absolutely love him, but in ninety two, 313 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: I think that would be a really good fit. I 314 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 3: think is hard to look away from. But I think 315 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 3: by the time we pick again, I think Ferguson'll be 316 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: out the board. Now there are some tight ends in 317 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: his group that are are are nice, nice guys. I'm 318 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: not saying nice guys. I'm saying like nice picks like that. 319 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 3: I would like it, but I think it's hard to 320 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: turn away from a tackle like Ursery at this point 321 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: in third round. 322 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: So I think that's take it, y. 323 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 4: Okay, let's do it. 324 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: Hey, what have we heard all off season long? Texan's 325 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: got to protect better? Yeah, I gotta protect better in 326 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 2: one way or another. That's going to help you do that. Okay, 327 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 2: we're picking one three seven, that's from that trade. We're moving, 328 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: we're grooving. Jalen Reed is the top prospect there safety 329 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: from Penn State. You see some of these other names, 330 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: Belton another tackle, We're not going to do that. Jamari 331 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: Caldwell defensive tackle down there. You got Jordan Phillips in 332 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: the mix. What are you thinking here? 333 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 4: All right, Drew? Because I have. 334 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: I'm now fifty three, so I've gotten older and so 335 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 3: my brain doesn't work as much. 336 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 4: I'm trying to remember. 337 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: Can you click on our on my on my picks 338 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 3: on what we've done thus far? Yes, we kind up 339 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: to people. So we drafted Booker at twenty five. We 340 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 3: took Treva down Henderson, the running back at Ohio State 341 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: fifty eight. Good value there. Jared Wilson is center from Georgia. 342 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: We took the best center I have in the draft, 343 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: and Arante Erseri from Minnesota at number ninety two. So 344 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 3: we've gone guard tackle center, so we've really bolstered offensively 345 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 3: and taking Traveon Henderson. 346 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 4: A couple names that I see there that I like. 347 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 3: I mean, Oli Gordon is if we hadn't taken Travon Henderson, 348 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: I would think about Oli Gordon, Dylan Sampson. We've already 349 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: gotten kind of a better version than Traveon Henderson, but 350 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: a very similar model. If you will there, you know 351 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 3: one's a one's a Corolla, one'es a Tursell. If you 352 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 3: remember the Toyota. I don't know why I used Toyota, 353 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: but I guess Toyota because it says right above it. 354 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: Anthony Belton is a guy I would think, but man, 355 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: we've already gotten three offensive linemen. I would take Belton, 356 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 3: convert him to a guard. Jamari Caldwell is really really interesting. 357 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 358 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: To me, he and Jordan Phillips provide some size what 359 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: I've been talking about all along, athletic size. I think 360 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: Jamerry Cold was like three twenty five, a little shorter 361 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: and stouter, but quick, agile play University Houston four, went 362 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: to Oregon. 363 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 4: I felt like he tore dudes up at the Senior Bowl. 364 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 3: Jordan Phillips had a really good Ryan Ball up in Frisco, 365 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 3: up in Dallas. You could I think you could go 366 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: either one in a defensive line. I'm gonna lead Caldwell 367 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: just because he went to you of h kooks. 368 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: All right, let's take go Cooks, Let's take him go Coops. 369 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: Come on, Mark Caldwell. All right, all right, we don't 370 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: pick for a while now. Yeah, the name coming off 371 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: the board long time. Yeah, we've got you. 372 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 4: Don't pick again until two thirty six. 373 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: Sections have gone trenches and running back in this draft and. 374 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: Then trenches, trenches, trenches on both sides of the ball. 375 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 4: All right, Okay, here we go. 376 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: This name excuse me, Uh, Peter Brady right there for 377 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: those of you who are old and used to watch 378 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: the Brady Bunch, Yeah, voice was cracking. This name, Ingram Dawkins. 379 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: This is tantalizing to me because it sounds like he 380 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: can play a lot of things. But I want to 381 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: hear your I mean, you and I have not talked 382 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: about him, but there's a lot of great names that 383 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: intrigue me him. I really like the Jalen Conyers. I 384 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: want to hear what you think about him. Yes, he's 385 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: a tight end, and the Texans have not taken a 386 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: tight end in this draft. I also want to hear 387 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: your thoughts on Hawes. Timson Smith, defensive tackle out of 388 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 2: Alabama has been taken in some MUCKs. You see Antoine Wells. Yeah, 389 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: he's a wide receiver out of Ole Miss. What are 390 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: you thinking here? Okay, do you like Ingram Dalks. 391 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 3: Let's talk about Ingram Dawkins, a little bit lighter interior player, 392 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 3: which I think the Texans have enough of. 393 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: Now. 394 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 3: He you know good, motor plays, hard plays, heavy plays, violent. 395 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 2: I like that. 396 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 3: I just I don't. I don't love the fifth Plus 397 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 3: we've already gotten called well, so I think We've done 398 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 3: enough on that d line. Zeke Biggers would be a 399 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 3: guy look at because he's longer and really athletic for 400 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 3: a dude that's three ten ish. Kanyers is kind of 401 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 3: like a more tight end version of Taysom Hill. He 402 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 3: can play wildcat, he can play full back. I want 403 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: to say he's got quarterback in his system. They would 404 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 3: use him at wildcat at Texas Tech. He's just kind 405 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 3: of a play creator, very very intriguing to me. But 406 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 3: let's flash down to two thirty four. The guy I've 407 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: been waiting for was hoping he was still on the board. 408 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 3: When everybody talks about tight end for this team, you 409 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: know they're talking about the top end guys in this draft, 410 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 3: but I don't think it's really what the Texans absolutely need. 411 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 3: What the Texans need at tight end is somebody that 412 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 3: can swap paint with a six technique that just goes 413 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 3: to battle, is violent as a blocker. 414 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 2: That's your guy, Joe. 415 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 3: I love the fact that Jackson Hawes is an Ivy leaguer, 416 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 3: graduated Yale, had one year of eligibility transferred on Georgia Tech, 417 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: and it was just blocking a physicality that kind of 418 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 3: caught everybody's attention. 419 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 4: Now the Senior. 420 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: Bowl, he was very very active catching the football though 421 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: he had good soft hands. 422 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 4: I was really impressed. 423 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 3: I was probably more impressed with that and is blocking, 424 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 3: but throughout the season it's just blocking. Its physicality that 425 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 3: get it to me. This is Jackson Hawes all day 426 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 3: to get that kind of in line. Why tight end you're. 427 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 2: Looking for kaboom? Five picks later is hard? That's one 428 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: that's your final pick. 429 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 430 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 3: Now, one thing we can do on this, let's click 431 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 3: on the offensive tab, Drew. 432 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 4: Let's just look at the wide receivers that are there. 433 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 3: And I think the wide receivers that are there, and 434 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna make a case for one of 435 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 3: them here that I really hear. 436 00:18:58,480 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 4: The receivers that on the board. 437 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: Antoine ULLs from Old Miss playmaker, had a great career 438 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 3: at South Carolina before he went to Old Miss. Probably 439 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 3: better at South Carolina at Old Miss. Not a flyer, 440 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 3: but I think it would be a good fit in 441 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 3: this room. Then you got ja Corey Brooks from Louisville. 442 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: I would be very happy with Bru McCoy. I've been 443 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 3: following forever. 444 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 4: It's injuries issues Coundray Lambert Smith can fly. 445 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: This might be it would be a steal potentially to 446 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 3: find him here. But the guy that gets interesting to 447 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 3: me is well two guys. Fton Chisholm from Eastern Washington 448 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 3: makes you miss in a phone booth. He had one 449 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 3: of the better three cone times and it shows on 450 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 3: the field that dude will shake anybody. He's got an 451 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 3: amazing quickness. Now he's not fast, he's like a four 452 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 3: to seven forty, but he's a slot receiver du joure. 453 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: The guy that might provide more of that and more 454 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: speed is Jimmy Horn Junior from Colorado. Whenever I watched Colorado, 455 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 3: he was the guy that always impressed me. Obviously Travis 456 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 3: Hunter always impressed this, but Jimmy Horn Junior was the 457 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: guy that you went, man, he's running away from guys. 458 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 3: He's making plays. I think Horn Junior right here, that's 459 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 3: the call would be the seventh I would. I would 460 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 3: really like to see him with the Texans, So let's 461 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 3: do that, all right. He's a little bit more of 462 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 3: a slot guy, but he's got speed out of the slot. 463 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 3: There are different kinds of slots, like Chisholm from Eastern 464 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: Washington is more kind of the true slot, kind of 465 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 3: the whips and pivots and you're working the chaos and 466 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: the short you know, five to seven yard range. Then 467 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: they're just kind of Christian Kirk who plays in the slot, 468 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 3: but it's dangerous out of the slot because he can 469 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 3: run slot fades, he can run posts. 470 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: I wrote an article, you wrote a really good article 471 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 2: about this. 472 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 4: I appreciate that. 473 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 3: And he's Texas dot Com where he isolates the safety 474 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: and beats him one on one with speed. 475 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 4: I think Jimmy Horn is kind of a mix of both. 476 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 3: I think he can really work that chaos in the 477 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 3: shallow areas, but then he's got the speed to be 478 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 3: able to burn down the field. 479 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 4: So I like getting him in the seventh round. 480 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: All right, look at that the Texans made seven picks 481 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: and only one of them was on defense. That's wild. 482 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: I don't think you'll see that. But this is what 483 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: we had. Yeah, and these were the options in front 484 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: of us. You couldn't. I mean, you you walk away 485 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 2: a winner. I think after round one and then it's 486 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: icing on cake. And I've used this again, icing on 487 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 2: icing with Jared Wilson, and then from there you get 488 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 2: some good. I mean, it's good players all around. I 489 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: like this. I like this draft alone. 490 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 3: Drew, you, you and I kind of have you know, 491 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 3: similar existences in a sense that you know, Texas fans 492 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 3: will take out their vitriol on us in sense whether 493 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 3: it's comments or they see you in the store, like, Drew, 494 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: what the you know, what the hell are they doing? Well, 495 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: what's the one thing we heard about all year long? 496 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: The offensive line? The offensive line? Well, you can't be 497 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 3: dismayed with what we just did with the offensive line 498 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: because we added potential starters at all three positions, you know, center, guard, 499 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 3: and tackle. 500 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 4: We got the guy. 501 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: We've made the competition supremely fierce. It was already going 502 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: to be fierce, supremely fierce. 503 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 3: Right and and that's I think exactly what you want 504 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 3: to be able to get the best five battle tested 505 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 3: dudes out of that room. You get a guy and 506 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 3: booker that is thought to be in alpha. And I 507 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 3: remember when I wrote that about Will Anderson Junior. I 508 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 3: remember thinking, Okay, I would love to see it in 509 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: Texans locker room. And not only has that been a 510 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 3: big factor in Texans locker room, he set the tone 511 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: for the way other people should think about the Texans, 512 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 3: and any players coming in this building should think about 513 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 3: playing for the Texans. And so hopefully Booker is is 514 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: that kind of guy. But you know, we heard so 515 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 3: much about the offensive line. You can't sit there and go, well. 516 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 4: What are you doing? 517 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 3: That's too much on the offensive No, there's no such 518 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: thing as too much on the offensive line. 519 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 4: And I give you this last year. 520 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 3: It's about this time that Phedoff Eagles signed a tackle 521 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 3: that had busted with the Jets, couldn't play, too fat, 522 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 3: too big, just didn't get it done. And the Eagles 523 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 3: had all these players already, they already had them on hand. 524 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: And then when they signed with Kai Becton, and it 525 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 3: was like, what's really betty'ing gonna do for them? He's 526 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 3: not gonna play tackle. You're gonna put him a guard. 527 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 3: You don't really fit it guard. But Beckton wins the competition, 528 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: ends up being the star, and ends up being one 529 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 3: of the better guards in the NFL. 530 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 4: Last year, the phild Off the Eagles. 531 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 3: Now I'm not saying that's all work, but that was 532 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 3: a situation in which, well, is that overkill on the 533 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 3: offensive line. 534 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 4: You didn't have to pay a lot for him. 535 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: But still, you know you got all these guys in 536 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 3: the offensive line you added on their piece. No, it 537 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 3: panned out so us drafting three different offensive linemen on 538 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 3: day one and day two, that's exactly what that painting needed. 539 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 3: That room needed to be painted and it needs all 540 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 3: the paint possible to throw up on the canvas. 541 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 2: Because what happens if CJ. Stroud has that extra half 542 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 2: So that's right, what happens if not getting knocked around, 543 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: that's right, ten times a game. He's only get knocked 544 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: around four times a game. What happens. Yes, Then with 545 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 2: the offense, the guys you have there who are your playmakers, 546 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 2: they're a little bit more explosive, that's right, because CJ 547 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: has time. 548 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. So all that about, you know, well, 549 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 3: too much investment in the trenches. To me, there's no 550 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 3: such thing. 551 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 2: There's no such thing from what we saw as too 552 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: much investment in that trench. January. Yes, he on average 553 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: this was the magic number. I believe we've talked about this, 554 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: but the magic number, it seemed for the Texans last. 555 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 4: Year was four four sacks. Yeah, that's right. 556 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: You got stacked four or more times. The Texans went 557 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 2: too and eight. Yep, it was less. It was kind 558 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 2: of like you reversed the number exactly. So you tack 559 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: in last year for the first time in a long time, 560 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 2: maybe ever, I don't know, I need to look this up. 561 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 2: The Texans did not have a clean sheet, meaning they 562 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: did not have a single game where they allowed zero sacks. 563 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 564 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: I mean of the year they game they would go 565 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: one sack against the Titans, but that was a different 566 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 2: kind of scenario. 567 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was in twenty twenty three. 568 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: They had not a number of games, but they had 569 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 3: a handful where they gave up where they had clean 570 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 3: sheets where they did not give up a sack, and 571 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 3: if you went back and look, those were probably the 572 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: ones where they had the most offensive output. 573 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 4: I remember one was Pittsburgh. 574 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 3: I remember that, and that offense that day was pretty 575 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 3: damn good in that game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. And 576 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 3: that was playing Austin Deculus and Jiran Christian at tackle 577 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 3: in that game. So gotta get trench help and I 578 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: think you just gotta get more and bring it to 579 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 3: the competition. 580 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: That's what the Texans did in this mock draft simulation, 581 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 2: and that was so much fun. I can't wait. Okay, 582 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: I'll be here at the stadium. I'm gonna be interviewing 583 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: the draft picks after they taken. 584 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 4: Can't wait. 585 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: Mark the crew gonna be out at the draft party 586 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: on Thursday night over Discovery Green. It's gonna be a 587 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 2: lot of fun. Then you'll be here in the building 588 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 2: in the studio Saturday and Friday night, Friday night and 589 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon. It's gonna be a great, great three days. 590 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 2: Wretch as the Texans, We'll get better. 591 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 4: Cool with you, cool with me. Let's do it. 592 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 2: Let's do it all right. This has been in the Lab, 593 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 2: presented by Xfinity for John, I'm Drew for you. The 594 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: three of us had so much fun. Let's get after 595 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: it and we'll talk all about these new draft picks 596 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 2: next week here on in the Lab