1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by Pacific Office Automation, proud partner 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at Pacificoffice dot Com. 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown. 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 3: Wanna throw by Kyler Murray facing pressure Connor to the 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 3: five and end of the end zone for the touchdown. 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Underground presented by Pacific Office Automation. Visit 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: Pacificoffice dot com. Problem solved, middle. 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: Of the Anzel pickoff Hizer White with the interception. 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 1: the team. 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: Touchdown Kyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces. 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 4: Oh that was nasty, right there, rights slam the ground 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 4: by fooda baker like a torpedo. 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. I scared of nobody. 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic. 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: All right, Well, there are different ways to start a show. 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: I know there was a famous children's program used to 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: start akin to going into the closet right and pulling 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: out a uh so, not to go all mister Rodgers 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: or anything, but considering the weather conditions, Danny, and the 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: fact that you know, I let everybody see this. Put 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: down the laptop there, Considering Darren came in with the 23 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: passive aggressive flex you know last week of the mega 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: jacket that no one else has. So I said, you know, 25 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: you know, I gotta dig deep and uh, here we 26 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: go at Costa CALVISI and bust out an oldie bit 27 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: of goodie. 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: Here, that's a really nice popper vest. Is that yours? 29 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: Or did you borrow that from Slim and Security like 30 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: the book last week? 31 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: No, this this still had the price tag on it. 32 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: I had it, and I I was looking for something 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: else ran into this and immediately I thought of Darren, 34 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: and I said, you know what, Darren isn't the only guy. 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 3: The best part of it is you're wearing the vest 36 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: zipped up over a jacket. 37 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 4: You know what he looks like. He looks like Jordan Phillips, 38 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 4: former cardinal who for the Bills, who came out in 39 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 4: warm ups. And he had the giant winter coat underneath 40 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 4: his jersey. See that. 41 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: I did not see that. 42 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 4: You have to check that out. 43 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: After that away he had the winter coat on. Then 44 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: he put the pads in the jersey over the under coat. 45 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 4: It looked like the pads were under the coat. I'd 46 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 4: have to I'd have to look at that again. 47 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: All right, anyway, it was I think it was just 48 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 2: for warm ups. 49 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 4: Pretty sure it was just for It was. 50 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 3: A really nice vest. 51 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: I just thought, you know, considering shot, not cover your 52 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: neighbor's vest there, Danny considering. The other thing that inspired 53 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 2: this was reading an AP game wrap story on the 54 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 2: Kansas City win. Yes, and there was a line in 55 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: there about Taylor Swift, and I'm going to quote the line. 56 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: I just thought it was extreme detail for a football 57 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: beat writer who wrote Taylor Swift was dressed nearly head 58 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: to toe and chanel, including a black and white tweed jacket, 59 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: a quarter zip romper, a pearl strand belt, and pendent 60 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: ear rings. This was a gamer recap. This is an 61 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: AP story, Okay. It was about two thirds of the 62 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: way down, and that's a paragraph I just lifted. And 63 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: the AP writer went into great detail about what Taylor 64 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 2: Swift was wearing in the owner suite. 65 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: I like the outfit. I'm not sure warrants getting its 66 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: own paragraph in that article, but I don't want to. 67 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 4: I don't want to, you know, pigeonhole someone. But I'd 68 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 4: love to know who wrote that story. That does not 69 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 4: seem like a normal sports writer thing. 70 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: To know, it seems like there should be an attribution 71 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: at the bottom or some sort of sub byline or 72 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 2: whatever you call it. 73 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: In the in the suction business also contributed to this 74 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 4: report exactly. 75 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: I don't know how they go. All I know is 76 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: just because we're talking about the weather here off the top, 77 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: you know, and because it was in the thirties in 78 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: Arizona this morning, So we don't want to hear any 79 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: of this stuff about the Saints tweeting out a two 80 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: feet of snow at their practice complex or snow on 81 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: Florida and that kind of stuff. It's not going to 82 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: get out of the fifties today. So I know I 83 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: came well prepared here once again with the best. 84 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: Did you see Kurt Warner on whatever podcast he was on, 85 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 4: waxing eloquent over why he doesn't like weather weather games 86 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: and essentially, which we always knew he didn't like weather games, 87 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 4: but he actually had a decent point, which was warm 88 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 4: weather teams can never practice in that weather, so they 89 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 4: could never be ready as opposed to those teams can 90 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 4: always adapt to decent weather or dome. 91 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: Isn't that the whole point of home field advantage? 92 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: That's kind of where I leave a little bit. 93 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: I mean, duh. 94 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: But you know what I took wolf to task in 95 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: the Big Red Rage last week, the Buffalo native Ron Wolfley, 96 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: how sick and tired I am of being sick and 97 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: tired of watching these playoff games, all important games. And 98 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: that's a great look by Jordan Phillips over there, the 99 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: former cardinal. Yeah, that's that's good stuff over there. I mean, 100 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: are we trying to decide who's the best at football 101 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: or Danny? Are we trying to decide who's the best 102 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: at survivor are we trying to gauge a team's football 103 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: skills or their survival skills by some of these says. 104 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 2: And look, I said this last year when Miami we 105 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: went to Kansas City and the windshill was negative thirty, 106 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: Miami had no chance. And to me, there's and I 107 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: know this is tracking to be the worst take ever, 108 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: but Kurt, get in line behind me, because I've said 109 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: before there's home field advantage, and there's too much of 110 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: a home field advantage. 111 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: I'm right there with you. I agree with that. That 112 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: weather in Kansas City last year, I'm surprised it was 113 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: even deemed safe for them to go outside and play 114 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: that game in the first place. I do think, though, 115 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 3: that home field advantage is important, and so the old 116 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: time argument is, Okay, if you have a problem with 117 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: playing the cold play better to earn home field advantage. 118 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 4: Well, here's where I come from. Generally, first of all, 119 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: there is such thing as maybe being perhaps too dangerous. 120 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 4: And that's where the television stuff comes in, because generally 121 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 4: those games that are horribly bad, they're all night games 122 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 4: because of television, not because of any other reason. I mean, 123 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 4: that's what you were facing this past weekend with the 124 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 4: Buffalo Baltimore game. Now, when it comes to, let's say 125 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 4: that specifically the Rams Eagles game, part of the issue 126 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 4: that I have a little bit with this is, you know, 127 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 4: could the Rams have won that game? I think absolutely, 128 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 4: without the weather they could have won that game. 129 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: However, you're not the only one. Sean McVeigh hinted heavily 130 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: that without the two fumbles in those elements that they're 131 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 2: not accustomed to, they win the game. 132 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: Okay, but I will say that when you hear aj 133 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 4: Brown saying I wouldn't wish that weather on my worst enemy, 134 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure the team and I've heard Andrew Brandt, 135 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 4: who used to work in the front office of the Packers, 136 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: say this multiple times. There is nobody for the Eagles. 137 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: There's nobody for the Packers. There is no player ever 138 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 4: that says, I play in this weather. I love it. 139 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 4: Even the teams that have the quote unquote home field 140 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 4: advantage hate it because it sucks and it's hard to do. 141 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 4: I will say the Eagles won that game, yes, in 142 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 4: part because of the weather, but also because they were 143 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: built for this time of year. What do the Eagles 144 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: do better than anybody. They have a gigantic offensive line 145 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 4: and they have a guy who runs for two hundred 146 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 4: yards a game. I would argue that that probably played 147 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 4: a bigger factor than the turnovers, because the Eagles had 148 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 4: some issues there. 149 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, the AJ Brown quote, we couldn't even see out there, 150 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: So imagine throwing the ball and catching the ball even 151 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: though they were doing it at the end. Talking about 152 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford still throwing for over three hundred yards and 153 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: he said absolutely affected everything. I wouldn't wish that on 154 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: my own worst enemy. 155 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: And I would also argue one of the biggest plays 156 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 4: of that game had nothing to do with the weather. 157 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 4: It had the rookie center, turning the wrong way and 158 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: letting Jalen Brown go right up the middle and sack 159 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford. And I would argue, if you don't make 160 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 4: that mistake, which has nothing to do with the weather, 161 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 4: the Rams win that game. 162 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: Jalen Carter, Yes, Jalen Carr, what I say, Jalen Brown? Sorry, 163 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: there was a wide open dude that I think Orlowski 164 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: got into that. There was a player wide open, the Stafford, 165 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden he had no chance 166 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: because Jalen Carter's all over him. 167 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 4: And I mean, anyways, that's kind of how I feel 168 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: about it. Well, I get both sides of it, but 169 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 4: but ultimately that's deal with it. 170 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: I just hate watching playoff games, all important, winner take 171 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: all postseason games decided in a field where guys can't 172 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: find their footing, where guys are sliding all over, or 173 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: guys aren't able to cut. You'd be like, well, look 174 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: at Saquon Barkley. I get it, but that was about 175 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: seventy yards worth. They're just straight ahead. I've got a crease, and. 176 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 4: I get it. I just I get it to a 177 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: certain point. But I would also say that again, home 178 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 4: field advantage now the Rams are not a good example, 179 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 4: given all the horrible, horrible things that have happened in 180 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 4: Los Angeles, but the Rams went ten and seven. Like, 181 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 4: if you want home field advantage, go earn home field advantage. 182 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 4: You could have played all those games in LA. 183 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: By the way, and I had this down. There's something 184 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: I also brought up with Wolf when I watched the Eagles. 185 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: I've never been a big fan of Jaalen Hurts. He's 186 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: pretty good, you know, you know, I don't really see 187 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 2: him as a super Bowl caliber quarterback. Bought to Darren's point. 188 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 2: When you have an offensive line where all five members 189 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: of that old line got all Pro votes, when you 190 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 2: have Saquon Barkley, when you have that defense that has 191 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: been absolutely outstanding, second in rushing offense along they had 192 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: the number one total D, number one pass D. And 193 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: to me, that's where Mantia Sapport and Jonathan Gannon are 194 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: tracking with this Cardinals team, that run game, trying to 195 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: put together that sort of defense, build that sort of 196 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: team around Kyler Murray. 197 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's what the say. That's the reason of resigning 198 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: James Connor. It's going to be interesting this offseason of 199 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: other moves that are made because starting right guard Will 200 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 3: Hernandez is an expected free agent to be and so 201 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 3: is Calvin Beacham, your swing tackle who played both right 202 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: and left side. And when you draft rookies Isaiah Adams 203 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 3: to be your foreseeable guard presumably who got a lot 204 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: of time there. Later on in the season, you draft 205 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 3: Christian Jones, who was your starting right tackle in the 206 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: final game of the season. Saw if you snaps the 207 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: game prior to that, it's question marks of who wants 208 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: to come back, first of all in the players, and 209 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 3: then who makes sense from the team standpoint when you 210 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: have younger players that you are trying to develop. The 211 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 3: fact that the Cardinals also gave a contract extension to 212 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: center Yell to Froholt is huge from a consistency standpoint. 213 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: It's very clear running the ball is going to continue 214 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 3: to be an emphasis and a priority for this offense. 215 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: You just have to have the right pieces. So it's 216 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: going to be interesting this offseason how they go about that. 217 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 4: And I'm curious to know how they execute the offense. 218 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 4: I mean, there is a reason aj Brown needed to 219 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: find his inner piece on the sideline. Just not getting 220 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: the ball that much. 221 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: Show It's you realize that his quarterback. And this is 222 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: sort of my point when you hear this stat, since 223 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 2: Week six, the Eagles quarterback has a touchdown to interception 224 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: ratio including the postseason of sixteen to one. That's Gillen Hurts. 225 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 2: Typically I would preserve that sort of stat for Mahomes 226 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: or Josh Allen, Matthew Stafford, but when you put that 227 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: sort of team around him. And the other stat was 228 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 2: all four winners in the divisional round combined for zero turnovers, 229 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: all the four losing teams combined for ten turnovers. 230 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 4: And again you're talking about turnovers from the losing teams, 231 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: from guys that weren't turning the ball over most of 232 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 4: the season. Okay, Jared Goff had that one bad game, 233 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 4: but for the most part, Jared Goff was really good. 234 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 4: We know Lamar Jackson was excellent until the very end. 235 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 4: You know, Matthew Stafford has been pretty good about it. 236 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 4: And again, we could talk about the weather if we want, 237 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 4: you know, we can talk about I don't really want to, 238 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 4: but we could talk about the officials in the Chiefs game. 239 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 4: And I understand that there was some if he calls, 240 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 4: but I mean, please, like the Texans does anybody think 241 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 4: the Texans played well enough to win that game? 242 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: No? Nope, I mean seven to zero now in the 243 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: divisional round for Patrick Mahomes, sixteen and three in the playoffs. 244 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: It's just the way they do, just enough to beat 245 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: you and move on. 246 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna have a Paul Calvc hot take here. 247 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 4: You're all ready for. 248 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 2: This, Go ahead, because I already I already forgot it. 249 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: I busted out of a mint earlier on Rob Frederickson. 250 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: If you guys want to hear my hot take after Darren, 251 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: here we go. 252 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 4: My hot take is, uh, you take the quarterback slide 253 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 4: out of the game. It is no longer a thing. 254 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 4: If you want to run, that's great. You better do 255 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,239 Speaker 4: what Kyler does, which is get out of bounds. 256 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: What about the head first dive because if you've noticed, 257 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: they've really evolved Kyler into going from the slide baseball 258 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: style feet first because it's too risky to take the 259 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: head shot to diving you know, Pete Rose style, if 260 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: you will, old school and diving forward. 261 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 4: Okay, so here's here's how I would have the rule. 262 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: The rule is still you you can't hit a guy 263 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 4: who's are already on the ground. Like, if he dives 264 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 4: and there's nobody around him, you you better just touch 265 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 4: him up otherwise it's unnecessary roughness. But anything else, you're 266 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 4: you're a running back, dude, you are a running back. 267 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: Talking about the play with Patrick Mahomes where he slid 268 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: two Texans hit each other well and still got the floor. 269 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 4: Here's here's the thing I'm gonna say this about that, Like, 270 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 4: if you're down on the field and you see these 271 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 4: three bodies come by, come together, and you probably clearly 272 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 4: heard helmets collide, my first reaction would be helmet to 273 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 4: helmet on the quarterback. It wouldn't have been because I 274 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 4: didn't see that in real time. I saw it in 275 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 4: super slow mo. The problems I had, the two big 276 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: problems I had was how late that slide was in 277 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 4: the first place, and then and then when we're having 278 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 4: the stupid flop by Mahomes. And I'm a Mahomes fan 279 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 4: and I'm one of the few people will say I 280 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 4: don't have Chiefs fatigue either. But I mean, come on, like, 281 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 4: let's let's take some of this out. If you want 282 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 4: to dive head first when there's nobody around, then somebody 283 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 4: can't just pile on you. That's still going to get it. 284 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 4: But you get that anyways, if somebody does a flying 285 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 4: well end on top of you and you're a running back. 286 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 4: But this thing about if you're running and you slide, 287 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 4: if anyone's close to you and they hit you, you know, 288 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 4: it's any other rule. It has nothing to do with 289 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 4: the quarterback anymore. 290 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: I like that take, Actually I do, because the league 291 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: emphasizes quarterback safety, which is important. You have to have 292 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: some of that accountability on the quarterback to keep themselves safe. 293 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: So if you're going to be a running back in 294 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 3: that instance, do you necessarily get all the safety precautions 295 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: that a quarterback does in that situation. I'm right there 296 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 3: with you of your running back at that point. As 297 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 3: a quarterback, if you're going to run, you slide at 298 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 3: the appropriate time, or you get out of bounds. 299 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: Well, and we know why why. It's Yeah, if you 300 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: get too close to Patrick Mahomes, it's a penalty flag. 301 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: We know why because name the Chiefs backup quarterback, Name 302 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: the Bills back up the quarterback. 303 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 4: You're going to say that about anybody, This tarnals. 304 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: Backup quarterback, which we know think of the television programming 305 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: in prime time Championship weekend, if it's not Mahomes versus 306 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: Josh Allen. 307 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 4: Going back to what you just said, Paul, what would 308 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 4: be worse as an NFL viewer watching a weather game 309 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 4: where you don't get to see the guys cut like 310 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 4: there should, or watching a perfectly weather game but not 311 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 4: having the starting quarterbacks. I know which one I'd pick? 312 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, no doubt, no doubt, no doubt. And look 313 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: for all the haters against Casey and I'm guilty. I 314 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: mean there's you know, Darren's the minority here. 315 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 4: There's do blame people for being tired of them. 316 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: There's really two things Darren doesn't have at this moment. 317 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: One Chiefs fatigue and two this killer vest. The Chiefs 318 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: right now, since week twelve have zero turnovers committed. Think 319 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: about that, someone talented up. Since week twelve there have 320 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: been two hundred and eighty turnovers in the NFL. The 321 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: Chiefs have committed zero of them. So they're playing a 322 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: good enough football to beat you. The good news is, 323 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: if you do have Chiefs fatigue and Danny, where are 324 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: you on that scale? Really it's black or white, it's 325 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: either war. I'm going, Really, you have to pick it 326 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: up if. 327 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: It's truly black or white. I guess I would say 328 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 3: I don't have fatigue. But I mean, I'm not sitting 329 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: here rooting for them by any means I am. The 330 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: longer it goes on, the more I am leaning towards fatigue. 331 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: But I'm not going to sit here and say I 332 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 3: have fatigue the way that we did for so long 333 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 3: with the Patriots, with how great they were for how 334 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: long they were. 335 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 4: I got That's the other thing. I got to bring 336 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 4: up the number of people with what did I do 337 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 4: recency bias that are saying the Chiefs are more hated 338 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 4: than the Patriots ever were. I want to gouge my 339 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 4: eyes out. 340 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: Are you hitting me, Darren? That's indisputable. It is true, 341 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: and there's a big reason why. It's because it goes 342 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: way beyond football. It's the incessant, unstoppable commercials with Mahomes 343 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: and Kelsey and Jason Kelsey and Andy Reid, and it's 344 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: the Taylor Swift to fact. I mean, there are people 345 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: who don't even. 346 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: Know constant and it's outside of football. 347 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: I mean, there are people who don't know a football 348 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: from a foosball, like my wife, and they can't stand 349 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. They just tune in to watch the Chiefs lose. 350 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: So actually it's good for ratings. 351 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: It really is the Patriots. Oh my god. 352 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 2: Here's so. Here's the other one case is now the 353 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: four team in NFL history to follow back to back 354 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 2: Lombardi Trophies by advancing to a conference title game. All 355 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: three of the previous teams have lost. So if you're 356 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: hoping trends will continue, that that's what you're pulling for 357 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 2: right there. 358 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: You have to respect fatigue or not. You have to 359 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 3: respect what the Chiefs are able to pull off year 360 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 3: after year. A lot of that falls on Andy Reid 361 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 3: and also Patrick Mahomes of They find a way to 362 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 3: play their best football when it matters, and even if 363 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 3: they don't have a great game, they have at least 364 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 3: one play better than their opponent to walk away with 365 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: the win. So, fatigue or not, you do have to 366 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 3: respect what they continue to do because that's the hardest 367 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 3: part is every season is a rest. Even if you 368 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: have a core consistency of players and coaches returning, there's 369 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 3: no guarantee that you're going to have as much success 370 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 3: as you did the year prior, so you do have 371 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 3: to tip your cap to them in that aspect. 372 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 4: You were mentioning the turnovers, how good Kansas City is 373 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 4: about it. You mentioned all the winners this weekend. How good? 374 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 4: I mean, think about and I'm bouncing around a little bit, 375 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 4: but you think about the difference in turnovers from Kyler 376 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 4: Murray after the buye this year and how how much 377 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 4: that impacted what happened with the Cardinals. 378 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: I mean, you had three interceptions at six and four 379 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: going into the buy Yeah, eight interceptions after the buye. 380 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 4: I think we've talked about this before, but it's it's fascinating. 381 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 4: And the game the NFL plays in twenty twenty four, 382 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five is dramatically different than the one that 383 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 4: was being paid played in nineteen seventy five. But if 384 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 4: you go back and look at the teams from the 385 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: sixties and the seventies and even early eighties, and you 386 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 4: look at the number of fumbles that the big time 387 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 4: running backs had, you look at the number of interceptions 388 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 4: the main quarterbacks had, it was ridiculous. Now they played 389 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 4: a completely different game. They were running the ball out 390 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 4: more so there's probably more chances for fumbles and when 391 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 4: they threw it. There was no short passing game. You 392 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: went to throw it down the field to two wide receivers, 393 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 4: maybe a tight end. The running backs weren't that involved 394 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 4: and you took risks and they would get picked off. 395 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 4: So a quarterback would have eighteen interceptions in a season. 396 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 4: But that's okay because that's how the game was played. 397 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 4: Now we talk about the ball. The ball, the ball. 398 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 4: I mean, as we break any team down, whether it's 399 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 4: the Cardinals or anybody like, you turn the ball over. 400 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 4: It just is disastrous. 401 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 2: By the way, can I just say that I cited 402 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: the key stat for the Lions loss against Washington had 403 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 2: nothing to do with Jayden Daniels in the Big Red Rage, 404 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: and then I still didn't have the guts to take Washington. 405 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 2: And I should have, obviously, because Jared Goff going into 406 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: that game against dan Quinn all time dan Quinn defense 407 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: two games, albeit when he was the Dallas defensive coordinator, 408 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: was zero and two with one touchdown, six turnovers, and 409 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: then it only got worse in game number three. 410 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 4: This is why they all say, Danny that Paul hates 411 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 4: all cow products, the you know, the self loathing. 412 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 2: The beatdown. I took via text message from those noted 413 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: col haters and golf haters Dave Passion Ron wolfleet was epic, Yeah, 414 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: it was. It was bad as you ever got, you 415 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: guys ever used to There's two kinds of people in 416 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: this world. Those who when there were kids used to 417 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: play shoots and ladders, or he didn't play shoots and ladders, Danny, 418 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 2: You ever plays shoots and ladders? The board game? 419 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: Of course? Who did it? 420 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: Okay? 421 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 4: What kind of why is that? 422 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 3: Why is that the baseline? 423 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 2: So I'm just throwing that out there for the Lions. 424 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: Lions made at the very top. Here they go down 425 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: the shoot, down the slide, right back to that same 426 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: team that hasn't won back to back playoff games in 427 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: consecutive years since nineteen fifty two. Fifty three. Ben Johnson 428 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: out the door. Lions fans already calling him ben addict 429 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: Johnson for staying in the division, going to Chicago. 430 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 4: Thirteen million dollars a year doesn't do it? 431 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: Is that what he got? I didn't even see that. 432 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 4: I saw some ridiculous numbers. I don't know if they're 433 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 4: absolutely true, but if there was a bidding war, okay, 434 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 4: goodness gracious, I. 435 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: Might need a moment, hang on how much? Again? 436 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: Thirteen, we're going to talk about John Fossil, the Cowboys 437 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 3: special teams coordinator, moving laterally to an entirely different organization 438 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 3: in the Tennessee Titans, and what that might say of 439 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 3: what's going on behind closed doors. Are we just gonna 440 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 3: not mention that. 441 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 2: No, that's a good we have a job though it's 442 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: a good one. 443 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 3: Well that Cowboys haven't officially hired a head coach, so 444 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: that leads the question of us have things been decided 445 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 3: behind closed doors? And the head coach might not have 446 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 3: a plan for him or does he? Is he making 447 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 3: this move premptively on his own for what is he's expecting? 448 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: You can okay, this is a whole It can only 449 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 2: stat that's gonna blow your hair back? You ready for 450 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: this one? 451 00:21:58,640 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 4: I don't have much hair? 452 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: Asked Lions coordinator or assistant coach to leave Detroit for 453 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: a head coaching gig Darren put all your fifteen wins 454 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 2: in wise guy trivia on the line right now one 455 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: more time? What was do you want a piece of 456 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 2: this winner? Take all questions? 457 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 4: What was the question? 458 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 3: Take call? Paul already knows that answer and is asking 459 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 3: a question. 460 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 4: What's the question? 461 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 2: I'm Danny, Do I get your blessing? It's all season? 462 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: Can Darren put the whole season on the line, win 463 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: or lose? 464 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 3: If Darren wants too, sure. 465 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: Shove all chips into the middle of the table. 466 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 467 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: The last Lions coordinator slash assistant coach to leave Detroit 468 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 2: for a head coaching gig was. 469 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have no idea about this product. 470 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: Well, don't feel so bad. I'd love to rub it in, 471 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: but the answer is from nineteen sixty three and maybe 472 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: a coach you've heard of, Don Shula. 473 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 4: Don coach for the Lions. 474 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: He went to the Colts as the Colts head coach. 475 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 4: I knew the Colts, but I didn't know that's where 476 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 4: he came. 477 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: From Colts to the Dolphins, winningest all time NFL head 478 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: coach ever, Hall of Fame. But he was the defensive 479 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 2: coordinator in Detroit. 480 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 4: If he lost Super Bowl three's first. 481 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: Head coach gig, So there you go. That's so that's 482 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: don't talk to shoots. Some laders, you know, and they're 483 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: gonna lose. Aaron Glenn, Aaron Glenn, don't do it with 484 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: the Jets. Go to New Orleans don't do with the Jets. 485 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: And uh, and now you're gonna see what's gonna happen. 486 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 2: See what's gonna happen with. 487 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 3: Hang on, here's a fun would he rather head coach 488 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 3: of the Saints or New York Jets of Aaron Rodgers stays. 489 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 4: Well, I'm assuming you have a say in that. If 490 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers stays. 491 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: You think, oh yeah, seems to hold a lot of power. 492 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 3: Ever he goes, I don't. 493 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 4: I think that time is come and gone. That would 494 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 4: be my guess. 495 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: So is anybody else real quick before we move on 496 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: to other items, Yes, head coaching Cardinals. Former Cardinals head 497 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: coach Cliff Kingsbury, considering the ridiculous run Washington is making, 498 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: the way Jade Daniels has looked, Are you shocked? There's 499 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: not more buzz, more noise, more speculation about Cliff taking 500 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: a head coaching gig. Because I was and I did 501 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: a little research. Apparently he's been telling the media I'm 502 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: not focusing on that at all until we're knocked out 503 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 2: of the playoff. 504 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 4: And that's what I was gonna say. Is I read 505 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 4: a report that he basically said I'm out until we're 506 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 4: out and teams need to move on. So no, and again, 507 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 4: if your Cliff, it's it's a Ben Johnson type situation. 508 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 4: Ben Johnson waited a couple of years. And if he's 509 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 4: really getting thirteen million dollars a year paid off for him, 510 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 4: if you're Cliff and you think you have this generational 511 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 4: quarterback allegedly although I have another hot take on that one. 512 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 2: Oh no, note Daniels Asu on ASU crime former issue 513 00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: he did not finish. 514 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 3: But anyways, so but if he does, well, you get 515 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 3: to claim him as an. 516 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 4: A No, I wasn't gonna know. No, he doesn't. I 517 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 4: don't get to claim him. He left, he left. 518 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 2: Danny. Has Darren claimed Jane Daniels or not? Do you 519 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: do you have evidence thereof that Darren has been claiming 520 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: Jane Daniels. 521 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 3: Just something to keep our eye on him. 522 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna monitor that situation. 523 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 4: Well. Two things. One with the Cliff, if you've really 524 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 4: got that generational quarterback and it's looking like Daniels could 525 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 4: be that guy. 526 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 2: Although you have a hot TAKEE. 527 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 4: I do have a hot take. I will say that 528 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 4: in a minute. I can understand why you want another 529 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 4: year of this to kind of build things up and 530 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 4: keep going and maybe seeing more of what dan Quinn 531 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 4: does as a head coach. My hot take on the 532 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 4: Jayden and Daniels thing isn't that he is a bad 533 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 4: player or that he couldn't be generational. But I did 534 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: find it humorous when I heard and I forget who 535 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 4: said it or whatever, but somebody said, when was the 536 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 4: last time you saw rookie come on like this and 537 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 4: play so well and win playoff games? And blah blah 538 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 4: blah blah blah. And I'm like, last year, everybody said 539 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 4: that was CJ. Stroud And guess what, he took a 540 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 4: step back this year. I'm not saying Jayde Daniels won't 541 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 4: be that guy, but how about we let him do 542 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,239 Speaker 4: it for more than one year. I enjoy this as 543 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 4: much as we can. But for people saying when was 544 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 4: the last time this happened? Last year? It literally happened 545 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 4: last year. Yeah, Jane Daniels has won an extra playoff game, 546 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 4: but CJ. Stroud was playing at a level that everybody says, 547 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 4: we've never seen this before. 548 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: For more, it was he was. I mean, twenty three 549 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 2: mid season Cardinals went to Houston and defensive offensive players 550 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: of the Cardinals were getting up off the bench. They 551 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: wanted to see c. J. Stroud in person. And I 552 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 2: can count on one hand how many times that's happened 553 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: where I mean players, no players. They wanted to see 554 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 2: the new fiend on him, and it was c. J. Stroud. 555 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,959 Speaker 4: And for the sub deck or the subhead of that 556 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 4: hot take, you can't even say you've never seen it 557 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 4: in Washington this century. Robert Griffin, iid okay at this 558 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 4: point he had blown out his knee, but he was unbelievable, 559 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 4: considered a generational quarterback after his rookie year. Every but 560 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 4: he was talking how great he was gonna be and 561 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: then it fizzled. Now he got hurt, and there was 562 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 4: other things involved in not saying that that's what's gonna 563 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 4: happen with Jayde Daniels. But it just happened in Washington. 564 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: I'd say it's in the conversation. But to me, Jayde 565 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: and Daniels has now surpassed both those guys by a 566 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 2: significant margin to go on the road round two, get 567 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: another playoff win at the number one seed, a juggernaut 568 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: type of team. 569 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 4: And if you want to say for the first year, fine, 570 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 4: I'm not. And here's the other reason I'm not gonna 571 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 4: Denny green Crown is ass. 572 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 2: Here's the other reason I'll throw that out there. It 573 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 2: was NFL Network. There have been five other rookie quarterbacks 574 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: who have led their teams to conference championship games. None 575 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: of those quarterbacks has won zero to five rookie quarterbacks 576 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: and conference championship games. So if he wins, he'd be 577 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: the first. But they showed the graphic every other rookie quarterback, 578 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 2: including like Ben Roethlisberger, trying to think. I think Mark 579 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 2: Sanchez perhaps all had a top three defense first or second. 580 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I saw that, and you see. 581 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: That, and Washington's defense is like eighteenth. Now they play 582 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: pretty dang well against Detroit. But for him, I mean, 583 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: it's most definitely Jayden Daniels leading the parade. It's not 584 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 2: just a rookie quarterback along for the ride. Joe Flacco 585 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 2: with that Ravens defense. 586 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 4: He's not. Ben Roethlisberger is a rookie. I'm not again. 587 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 4: He has been amazing, and all it takes is one 588 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 4: of those runs where somebody lands on his knee and 589 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 4: then we got to start wondering about stuff. And I'm 590 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 4: not saying that's ever gonna happen. But I I need 591 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 4: to see more than one year. I need to see 592 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 4: more than one year what happens if Cliff is a 593 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 4: big part of this and after next year Cliff leaves. 594 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: By the way for someone who doesn't bet and I 595 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: can't bet. I do have a theory about betting. I 596 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: don't know if this qualifies qualifies as a hot take 597 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: or not. The only way you're ultimately gonna beat Vegas 598 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: is with unknowns. Nobody knew what Jane Daniels was capable of, 599 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: sort of like last year was j Strout. Just pick unknowns, 600 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: newcomers like you don't know what they're capable of in 601 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: these settings. That's the only way from the outside looking in, 602 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: that you're gonna beat Vegas. 603 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 3: Are you recommending somebody put down money right now that 604 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: Shidoor Sanders is going to be Rookie of the Year. 605 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 4: I mean he's going to be look great at with 606 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 4: that star with Dion coaching him in Dallas. 607 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: Oh boy, care forwn Darren. People might think that I 608 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 3: am still attached to the Cowboys. 609 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: For example, before the year started, Washington was a one 610 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty to one long shot to win it. 611 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 2: All as you might imagine, they're now seven to one. 612 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 4: Uh. 613 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,479 Speaker 2: They started the playoffs Washington sixty six to one odds 614 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: of just reaching the super Bowl. Now it's two to one. 615 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: So again, if you focus on the unknowns, what Vegas 616 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: doesn't know where, you're sort of equal footing with Vegas 617 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: when it comes to you know, with all the wise 618 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: guys out there. 619 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 4: So basically you're talking about wagering your own money by 620 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 4: essentially throwing darts at a wall and hope it sticks. 621 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 3: Just saying, if you, if you have a theory about 622 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: some of these, take betting advice from Paul calve C 623 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: from Calvec Consulting. 624 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pretty anti betting. 625 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: So there's there's it's to my own benefit that I'm 626 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: not allowed. 627 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's warm in here. Yeah, but aren't 628 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 4: you sweating a little bit with. 629 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: A little bit it's still working? You know, maybe I'm 630 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 2: taking off a few LB's coming off the holiday season, 631 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: a little bit you. 632 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 3: Know is pay Paul, So you gotta sweat it out 633 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 3: for a bit just because it looked good. 634 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, that is the best sound bite. 635 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kav, let's see where else do you? Uh, by 636 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 2: the way, here was my other hot take with Rob Frederckson, 637 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 2: and I pretty much got laughed off. The Red Sea 638 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: report goes something like this, when I watch Saquon Barkley, 639 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: I see a little bit and I do emphasize a 640 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: little bit of Trey Benson. The big back. If you 641 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 2: can get into some open space, second level has the 642 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: jets to find the sprinter speed, the home run hitter. 643 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: And what we saw Trey Benson right before he got 644 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: injured and didn't finish the season, or he refused to 645 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: go down or refused to go out of bounds, and 646 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: he was channeling some of that inner James Connor the 647 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: Kramitt vertical had rubbed off on the rookie and a 648 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: guy who runs his sub four four and was dissatisfied 649 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 2: with his four to three eight and said it should 650 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 2: have been lower four threes. He's run plenty of those, man. 651 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: I could see Trey Benson being that sort of home 652 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: run hitter soon in his career. 653 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 4: I'm here for it. I don't know I'm. 654 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: Putting him in the same category as a viable NFL MVP, 655 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: so I get it. I'm just saying some of the style, 656 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: the type of back that you see in Saquon Barkley. 657 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 2: I could see Trey Benson. 658 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 4: Really, it's funny. I got a mail bag question about 659 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 4: mock drafts and somebody was making it never too early. 660 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 4: Somebody was making a point that on one of the 661 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 4: outlets where they're doing the auto mock drafts that Ashton 662 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 4: Genty was falling to sixteen and being available, like when 663 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 4: the Cardinals were picking, and he's like, do you think 664 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 4: if he happened to fall to that point, would you 665 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 4: pass on a blue chip running back like that? I 666 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 4: know there's other needs, but this and that. 667 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,719 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, what was that? 668 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 3: Luck? 669 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 2: There's no chance they're taking Ashton Jade, that would be 670 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: my point. No chance. 671 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 4: One. They just spent a relatively high pick on Trey Benson. 672 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 4: You just extended James Connor, and more importantly, goes back 673 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 4: to what you were saying twenty minutes ago, which was Manty. 674 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 4: Austin Ford is trying to build up these lines and 675 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 4: build up this and that's where that's where it's needed. 676 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 4: Right now. 677 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 3: There is a line to walk of positions of need 678 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 3: and player value. Best player available when you're looking at 679 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 3: a running back, though, again, when you have the type 680 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 3: of running back you want for this offense. You just 681 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 3: resigned your starting back in Connor. Have what you like 682 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 3: in Benson, you have a room full of that. I 683 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 3: don't see a need to bring in a running back 684 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 3: at sixteen, especially when they're very likely going to be 685 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 3: high level players that can make an impact and many 686 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 3: other positions that are of much greater need. I don't 687 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 3: think that ashen gen is Ashon gen genty is not 688 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 3: one of those players that's going to completely change this 689 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 3: offense that you don't already have with Connor and Benson. 690 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 4: I mean, the reason the Eagles went out and paid 691 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 4: what they paid for Saquon Barkley is because they already 692 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 4: had this offensive line that was freaking amazing. 693 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 2: Well, and the other thing, this is just from the 694 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: outst looking in at Mantiosk for Jonathan Gannon. They do 695 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 2: believe it's a big man's game. If you're taking a 696 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 2: running back at sixteen, you're not taking the kid from 697 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 2: Spud State who came into the Fiesta Bowl and look 698 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: pretty average against legitimate competition. 699 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 3: Darren, your point in the mailbag. If you draft gent 700 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 3: at sixteen, he's your starting running back day one. So 701 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 3: why did you just get all that money to. 702 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 4: Connor, why did you drive Trey Benson exactly? If you 703 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 4: didn't have Trey Benson, maybe you can have a conversation 704 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 4: about it. But more importantly, there's just too many other 705 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 4: things you're looking at, and to be honest, depending on 706 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 4: who's on the board, I am going to be stunned 707 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 4: if it's if the first round pick is not a 708 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 4: defensive player. Now, that can change things, can change who's 709 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 4: on the board, all that stuff. But as we sit 710 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 4: here right now and not knowing any names and not 711 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 4: knowing who's going in front of him, and talking about 712 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 4: a team that's picking smack dab in the middle of 713 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 4: the first round, I'm expecting a defensive player. 714 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, if you can find, for example, you know, 715 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 2: the next Jared Verse, right, who looked really good in 716 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: this in that Eagles game, man, he. 717 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 4: Rams defense, that rams pass rush. 718 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: And remember Jared Verse went nineteen. You're at sixteen. So 719 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: if that guy, to your point, Darren is on the board. 720 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely At the same time, if you're thinking there's an 721 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 2: offensive guard at sixteen who's going to be a perennial 722 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: pro bowler like Quentin Nelson type. 723 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, I could see they don't 724 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 4: know who's going to be there and who's gonna kind 725 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 4: of I mean even now, like we don't know we 726 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 4: don't know a lot of the names. I don't know 727 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 4: a lot of the names, but we don't know how 728 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 4: they're gonna kind of filter out as we had closer. 729 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 3: Last year at fourth Paul, you're saying, was let there 730 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 3: be a fourth QB to give the Cardinals a little 731 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 3: bit of leverage if they wanted to drop down a spot, 732 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 3: get some extra draft capital, and still get the player 733 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 3: they wanted in Marvin Harrison Junior. You got to think 734 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 3: of a creative slogan of something for fifteen that's right 735 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 3: for the Cardinals to get who they want at sixteen. 736 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 3: So start churning away. 737 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 2: I'll do that while you guys are playing all those 738 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 2: draft simulators. I'll be figuring out the marketing slogan. By 739 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 2: the way, the Lions marketing slogan talk about foreshadowing, and 740 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 2: this is regrettable. Do you know what their marketing slogan 741 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 2: was all year long? We want more? Coming off the 742 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 2: NFC Championship loss where they blew the seventeen point lead 743 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 2: at San Francisco last year. Uh yeah, I'd say you 744 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 2: effectively left your fans wanting more after a fifteen win season. Right. 745 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 2: So okay, by the way, speaking of the weather, and 746 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 2: you know, once again, you know when you have the vest, 747 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 2: you can talk about the weather. Are the Cardinals not 748 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 2: semi built right now for one of those weather games? 749 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? Well look what they did with James Con twenty 750 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 4: three in Pittsburgh in Philadelphia, which were very chilla games 751 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 4: that there was rain in Pittsburgh, there wasn't snow, But 752 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 4: I think they are. 753 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, so okay, all right, so. 754 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 4: Paul's done a one eighty and now he says bring 755 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 4: on the weather games. No, that's what I heard, thankfully. 756 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 3: Visually, two weather games on our upcoming road schedule. One 757 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 3: is Cincinnati, which could be cold if we get that 758 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 3: in December, that I will say we've lugged out the 759 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,919 Speaker 3: last few years with cold, open weather or open roof 760 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 3: stadiums in December, having Pittsburgh and Chicago and Cleveland recently. 761 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 3: The other weather game is Tampa Bay and that's the 762 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 3: opposie that you just hope that's not September early October where. 763 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 4: You don't know what it's going to be like in Germany. 764 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 3: Wooh, that would be fun. What do you know that 765 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 3: we don't I don't know anything. 766 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 4: I don't want to start, but there's there's still that 767 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 4: opening politentially, I don't know. 768 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 2: By the way, you know the stadium in September. 769 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 3: With Arnolds underground from some dive bar with pretzels and 770 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 3: beer cheese. 771 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 2: You guys realized that the stadium they're going to play 772 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 2: the game was this stadium in which they held the 773 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 2: nineteen thirty six Berlin Olympics. 774 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 4: That would be so awesome? 775 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 2: Which was the Jesse Owens Olympics? That would be Have 776 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 2: you seen the movie Boys in the Boat, by the way, 777 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 2: about the road team from tm USA and the thirty 778 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 2: six Olympics. I want to excellent movie. 779 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 4: Really, as a history guy, I would love I'm a. 780 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 2: Sucker for the underdog stories, and it's a true story. 781 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 2: Really well done, really really well done. 782 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 4: I thought Paul rooted for me, and now I know 783 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 4: for sure. 784 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 2: That's my segue though for the do you see where 785 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: a rare gold medal from the nineteen oh four Saint 786 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: Louis Olympics cells sold for over five hundred thousand dollars 787 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 2: at auction By the way, Saint Louis made it into 788 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 2: this weekend's playoffs. At Casa GALVICI my sister in law, 789 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 2: who knows not about sports, the KC Houston game was on. 790 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,919 Speaker 2: She said, where is this game? Saint Louis? I ignored her. 791 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 2: So this gold medal awarded at the first Olympics hosted 792 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 2: on US soil was sold at auction for over half 793 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 2: a million. Is there anything you know that you guys 794 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: are fond of collecting that you know? Might I don't know. 795 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 2: The longer you hold on to it for half a million, 796 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 2: might might fetch some serious cash and fund your retirement. 797 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 3: I've been told all the beanie babies that are now 798 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 3: when my parents' attic will be worth something someday. 799 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 4: I actually have a number of sports trading cards that 800 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,919 Speaker 4: I collected when I was growing up that I kept 801 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 4: in pretty good shape, and the ones in the best shape. 802 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 4: My brother has been getting valued. However you do that, 803 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 4: you have to send him in and they. 804 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 2: Got him graded. 805 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, great, get him graded. And he sent me back. Actually, 806 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 4: he let me know that there was a handful of 807 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 4: like early eighties basketball cards that he got graded and 808 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 4: they were all he goes. You should you should get 809 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 4: some decent money out of this. So that was nice. 810 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 2: The problem is then how do you sell it? You 811 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 2: got to go in auction them off, you got to 812 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 2: do it online. Most of it a headache. 813 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 4: He's already been doing. He already has done his own 814 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 4: card collection. So he basically said, I'll take care of you. 815 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 4: I'm lucky that I have a brother that's willing to 816 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 4: do that. So I basically just pulled him out of 817 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 4: the closet and took out the ones that were in 818 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 4: the best shape and going from. 819 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 2: There, how far does his generosity extend? Would he help 820 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 2: out you know a friend of his brothers on the podcast, 821 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 2: because you know, I don't have any cards. 822 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 3: To give away to sell. 823 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 2: My wife was here, she'd be handing you boxes of 824 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 2: cards right now and say get rid of them, get 825 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 2: them out of the how cards? Yeah, so's too many. 826 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 2: I had a bunch of cards from when I was 827 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 2: a little punk and I had this Oh yeah, but 828 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 2: this is about twenty twenty five years ago. I was 829 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 2: doing a radio road show from a collectible card show, 830 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 2: and the expert on site, this is when baseball cards 831 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 2: in particular had bottomed out, literally told me to my face, 832 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 2: donate them to charity. They're worthless and they're never coming back. 833 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 2: And then the pandemic hit and everything changed and a 834 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 2: lot of those cards rocketed. 835 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 4: I mean, don't get me wrong. At one point when 836 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 4: I started thinking about the money part of it, as 837 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 4: I got to be a teenager and you know, you're 838 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 4: collecting I don't know, seventeen jose Canseco Rookies of the 839 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 4: nineteen eighty six top set, which like they made a 840 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 4: billion of so they're like there were too many in 841 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 4: the first place, and everybody has them because that's when 842 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 4: everybody was trying to sell their cards. The valuable ones 843 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 4: for me were the ones that I got when I 844 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 4: was much younger, yep, you know, in late seventies and 845 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 4: the very early eighties, and so I had three rookiy 846 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 4: Joe Montana's at one point. 847 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 2: At one point, what if somebody, yeah. 848 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 4: Well my brother graded them and I said, we sold that. 849 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 2: It's good. Danny. I think he's sandbagging. I think there's 850 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 2: there's a lot more revenue coming in via the card 851 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 2: collection that he's letting on. 852 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 3: We're going to keep an eye on how Darren talks 853 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 3: about Jane Daniels and whether or not he went to 854 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 3: a su and is proud of that. And we're also 855 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 3: going to keep an eye on the vacations Darren is 856 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 3: taking because we know what's funding those. 857 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 4: Oh okay, look, I've worked very hard to save whatever 858 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 4: money I might. 859 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 2: Have, gotcha, Okay, all right? Any other playoff related you know, takeaways, 860 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 2: anything you know you want to get, uh you know, offen, 861 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 2: a rant, anything else. 862 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 4: I've given you all the hot takes that could possibly 863 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 4: give you. 864 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 2: It's true, you know that is true over there? What 865 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 2: is next? Though? 866 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 4: I didn't realize you considered me a friend, so we 867 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,919 Speaker 4: got a whole different arc going here. 868 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 3: Gotcha, I think he thinks you consider him a friend. 869 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 3: I will say at this point is the important clarification. 870 00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 2: Like legitimately sweating, Holy cow, I'm still wow. That's yeah. 871 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,439 Speaker 4: I mean, I'll give you you went all the way 872 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 4: on that bit. That was quality. 873 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. So all right, Well I think, uh, I think 874 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 2: I'm officially dehydrated this point. Uh you know, I sweated 875 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,359 Speaker 2: through this podcast. So uh, unless there's anything else that uh, 876 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 2: you know, we need to tend to at this point, 877 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 2: what is next in terms of your manti assin fort? 878 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 2: What is the next deadline coming up that you have to, uh, 879 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 2: you know, adhere to or think about. Right, you got 880 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 2: the All Star Games coming out, the. 881 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 4: Game to the Shrine Bowl, the Senior Bowl, all those 882 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 4: good things. The Combine will be in about a month, 883 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 4: you know, those those kinds of things, and I think 884 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 4: there's you know, at this point, you're still trying to 885 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 4: kind of sort out what you did this season, what 886 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 4: you'r what the players you want to get back, you know, 887 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 4: what what you might do coaching staff wise, what you 888 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 4: might do in the personnel department, if there's any decisions 889 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 4: that have to be made there. I don't know if 890 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 4: there is or not, but I think that that's kind 891 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 4: of where you are. You take a little bit of 892 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 4: a breath and you kind of watch what's going on. Obviously, 893 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 4: they've signed a handful of futures players, so they're already 894 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 4: building up the roster. But we'll see what happens with 895 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 4: you know, their free agents and what might happen in 896 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 4: the next month or so. 897 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 2: In terms of free agents to be, give me your 898 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 2: quick top three top three most important potential free agents 899 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 2: to be like Kaiser White, for example, LJ. Collier, Roy 900 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 2: Lopez will Hernandez coming off injury. 901 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 4: I think those are the four that strike me the 902 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 4: most right now. I mean, Kaiser already kind of hinted 903 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,720 Speaker 4: he might not be sticking around. I've thought, I don't 904 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 4: know this. I've thought all along Will Hernandez would probably 905 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 4: come back. I thought he was playing really well and 906 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 4: he seems like the kind of guy who would come 907 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 4: back well from that thing. But is he going to 908 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 4: get the kind of contract that he was originally going 909 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 4: to get. He might have to do kind of a 910 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 4: one year prove it kind of thing. I'll be interested 911 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 4: to see how that turns out. But I mean, I 912 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 4: think all those guys have been nice pieces, Danny. It's 913 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 4: just a question of what they're looking for and what 914 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 4: this team might be willing to give. 915 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 3: A big guy in Hernandez rehabing an ACL injury that 916 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 3: was earlier on in the season, though, so you would 917 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 3: expect all things go according to plan that if he 918 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 3: does resign here would hopefully be ready to go early 919 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 3: on in the season. Roy Lopez, for all the similar 920 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 3: attributes you were just mentioning about Hernandez, Lopez is also 921 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 3: a hometown kid here. This is where he grew up. 922 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,399 Speaker 3: Gets to play in front of his family. I think 923 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 3: that really means a lot to him as well. Somebody 924 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,320 Speaker 3: who grew a lot in this role this year and 925 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 3: was more noticeable and more impactful with this defense and 926 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 3: similar to LJ. Collier. But that list, I think you 927 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 3: named the top pending free agents. 928 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 4: I will say this when you start talking about some 929 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 4: of those guys, depending on if they signed more than 930 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 4: a one year deal or whatever it might be. You know, 931 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 4: the thing to always keep in mind as a general 932 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 4: manager is building up a roster is like, Okay, what 933 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 4: might the free agent market look like? Who might he 934 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 4: bring in? And who what draft picks might bring him in? 935 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,760 Speaker 4: And at some point there's some guys might be moved 936 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 4: out because you know, you're trying to make things better 937 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 4: and what that means. And guys that are signing in 938 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 4: in March or re signing in March, they're not necessarily 939 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 4: on your fifty three man roster by the time you 940 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 4: start playing games. 941 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 2: I mean, look at the Lions, right, I mean you 942 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 2: could do this with every team, but the Lions potentially 943 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 2: might have to let Carlton Davis, their big corner, hit 944 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 2: the market. And he's a really good player. He was 945 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 2: cornerback one for them before he started dealing with injuries. 946 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 2: Kevin Zeitler the offensive guard, he's a proven dude. I 947 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 2: mean there are guys Tray Smith Kansas City. He's a 948 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 2: big time offensive guard, like six six three twenty five. 949 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 2: I mean there are some big names. And then a 950 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 2: little bit I read about what's going to be the 951 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 2: Senior Bowl, like it's loaded in defensive line, so I 952 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 2: think there's definitely going to be opportunity. And most of 953 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,839 Speaker 2: what the analytics about the cap Cardinals are top ten 954 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 2: potentially in cap space. You know, we'll see what that means, 955 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 2: but I'll leave you this. Two media notes, real quick. 956 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 2: Number one if you're looking for something at Ezycardinals dot com. 957 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 2: Frank Sanders on Big Red Rage. I thought made a 958 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 2: really good point about Marvin Harrison Junior because I cited 959 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 2: how if you look at the top three all time 960 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 2: in rookie receiving yards Cardinals history and Kwan Bolden Marvin 961 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 2: Errison junior. Frank Sanders, some guy named Larry Fitzgerald is 962 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,399 Speaker 2: fifth okay, and Frank said, well, I had Rob Moore 963 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 2: as wide receiver one my rookie year, Larry had and 964 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,720 Speaker 2: Kwan Bolden his rookie year. You know, Marvin Rison Junior 965 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 2: was wide receiver one, got all the extra attention, always 966 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 2: got cornerback one. And it was a really good explanation. 967 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 2: And his direct quote was he's not going to be 968 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 2: the same player next year, meaning there's gonna be significant 969 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 2: improvement by Marvin Harrison Junior, just in terms of the playmaking, 970 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 2: terms of filling into the role and serving as wide 971 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 2: receiver one. The other one was I think anybody who's 972 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,919 Speaker 2: in the media and has ever said anything negative about 973 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 2: the Bills is ow a playoff bonus. According to NFL Network, 974 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 2: you see where Josh Allen's halftime speech was all about 975 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 2: the media doubters, all the media haters, everyone questioning him, 976 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 2: and then apparently the Bill's defense going into the game 977 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 2: showed a highlight reel of all the media talking heads 978 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 2: talking bad about the Bills. 979 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 3: Defense said that in his postgame interview as well. 980 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, so of course they never pay attention until they 981 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 2: know everything that's said, and they use it as motivation. 982 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 2: In pregame speech, I. 983 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 4: Will say that most media was thinking the Bills weren't 984 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 4: going to be nearly this good this year. Yeah, so 985 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 4: they actually have a reason to actually bring that up. Now, 986 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,359 Speaker 4: when the Chiefs bring it up or the Eagles bring 987 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 4: it up, come on man. 988 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 2: By the way, Buffalo finished a ten and zero home season. 989 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 2: Who led Buffalo seventeen to three late first half in 990 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 2: Week one. 991 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 4: Ripping its scabs, Paul, ripping it scabs. 992 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 2: All right, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna put 993 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 2: the best back on here. Here we go. That's because 994 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 2: I mean, it's at least in the fifties out there, Danny. 995 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 2: It's cruel and cold, hard world outside the studio wall. 996 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 3: Now I've got warm blood. Now that is cold for me. 997 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 2: Now that's right, physically and mentally. Prepare yourself for the 998 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 2: rest of your week. You're on Cardinals Underground, brought to 999 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 2: you by Pacific Office Automation. We'll help over here.