1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast. 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: If you are even remotely a savage, you'll run these 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: people over for a second. 4 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Action Network Podcast, presented by fan Duel 5 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: Brendan Glasheen, joined by Seanzarello Billy Ward, breaking down UFC 6 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: to eighty five, Yes, your UFC betting preview to eighty 7 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: five This weekend at the Tmobile Arena in Las Vegas, 8 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: we'll look at our favorite underdogs, props, and more best 9 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: bets to rap. As always, we begin though with the 10 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: main event featuring John Jones. He's back and taking on 11 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: Cyril Gain Gain the dog, Jones the favorite a three 12 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: year app since for Jones, Folks are questioning if he's 13 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 1: ready for this moment, if you can get right back 14 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: in the ring, first time back in the cage. I'm 15 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: really curious not only Zorilla and Billy, but of course 16 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: your pick on the fight and how you want to 17 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: bet it, but also just the media day comments. He's 18 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: addressing his cardio. No longer a lightweight, he's a heavyweight. 19 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: Just when you digest all of that info, Sean, how 20 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: do you compartmentalize that with trying to make a betting 21 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: pick on it. 22 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: I'm going with the Frenchman. 23 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 4: You know, we see very often with these fighters coming 24 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 4: back who aren't active from lengthy layoffs. They just sort 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: of have that cage corrosion, not only at the beginning 26 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 4: of the fight, but there's that timing aspect that's off 27 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 4: the ability when they take shots. You know, they haven't 28 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 4: been hit hard in the gym that hard in a 29 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: long time. And also Jones moving up to heavyweight here 30 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 4: never faced this direct level of power, never faced somebody 31 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 4: directly of this size or weight in the op to 32 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 4: gone before. Not sure what he's going to look like 33 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 4: athletically physically coming back from a three year layoff, dealing 34 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 4: with injuries before adding forty pounds to his frame. 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: Always had phenomenal cardio. 36 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 4: I don't think that cardio is necessarily going to go away, 37 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 4: but his speed, his power. Going up against somebody on 38 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 4: the feet who is a better technician, a better technical striker, 39 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 4: he may be at a complete disadvantage on the feet, 40 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 4: not only in terms of the technique, but also speed 41 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 4: and power. Does have a three inchreach advantage. Gon kicks 42 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 4: really well, going to be able to keep it at range, 43 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 4: control the distance on the feet. Jones wants to win 44 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 4: this fight. I think he needs to grapple. He never 45 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 4: carried much power light heavyweight. That's not going to translate 46 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 4: particularly well to heavyweight either. Getting a standing ko here 47 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 4: over Cyril Goan is probably a pretty low percentage. I 48 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: think he needs to take the fight to the ground. 49 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 4: If you like to bet John Jones in this fight, 50 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 4: I think his submission props a pretty solid stab plus 51 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 4: seven hundred out there. I would make that number closer 52 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 4: to five to one. I think he has the grappling 53 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 4: upside here. I'm just not sure how consistently he's gonna 54 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 4: be able to get the takedowns because big Cage and 55 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 4: Gone moves really well, very tough to angle off. I 56 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 4: know Francis and Ghana took Serro Gone down a couple 57 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 4: of times. Francis and Ghanho is the strongest person to 58 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: ever enter the UFC octagon. Freak athlete Gon also training 59 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 4: counter wrestling for this matchup, was training for a striker 60 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 4: in that in Ghanu matchup, so some different things to 61 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 4: the aspect of the fight. Jones does have that grappling advantage, 62 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 4: but in terms of minute winning over the course of 63 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 4: twenty five minutes, In terms of finishing upside on the feet. 64 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 4: I do like cerro Goan would bet him down to 65 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: plus one twenty five pre fight. 66 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Billy, the comments on media day, Jones was saying 67 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: how he feels great about his endurance and he's a 68 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: stronger version of himself and he might not be as 69 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: lean as he once was. So with all that in mind, 70 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: does that make you eye on the side of the 71 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: soilla where you want to go to the other side? 72 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 5: I mean, first off, try to not listen to anything 73 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 5: a fighter says. It's kind of like every running back 74 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 5: in August is in the best shape of their life, 75 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 5: even though they're coming torn acls, and like you have 76 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 5: to say that, right, Like, no one's gonna get up 77 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 5: there and be like, hmm, I'm feeling okay, you know 78 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 5: I've been better. 79 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 6: You can't say that. So, like, this is a good point. 80 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 6: Don't don't put too much stock in that. 81 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 5: I think if you're handicapping by listening to things they say, 82 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 5: it's gonna steer you wrong far more often than it's 83 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 5: gonna steer you to anything useful. 84 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 6: With that said, I'm kind of wish on it. 85 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: No, Billy, I'm just the messenger. Okay, that's all I'm 86 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: doing here. 87 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 6: I'm not picking on you, Brennan. I'm just saying there. 88 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: I will absolutely be that person if that's what this requires. 89 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, I mostly agree with Sean's point. 90 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 5: The real story of this one is how much line 91 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 5: movement we've seen when the fight was announced. Jones is 92 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 5: a pretty sizable underdog. Loved him at that price, right, 93 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 5: if he's in his prime, if he's you know, anywhere 94 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 5: close to what he was and can carry that over 95 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 5: to heavyweight. You know, the grappling advantage in the overall 96 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 5: skill set is just much better than zerio guns. But 97 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 5: that switched so far in the other direction that if 98 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 5: I was picking a money line side one hundred percent 99 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 5: with Sean, I think, you know, getting plus money the 100 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 5: established heavyweight, the younger guy, the more active fighter, just 101 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 5: with all those questions is probably the sharper side. But 102 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 5: what I'm really looking at, and full admission, I also 103 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 5: stole this one from Sean when we were talking about it, 104 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 5: but this fight to end inside the distance. It's minus 105 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 5: one twelve at FanDuel, which is just an absurdly good 106 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 5: price for. 107 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 6: Any heavyweight fight. Right. 108 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 5: But as Sean pointed out, God should have all the 109 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 5: stand up advantage. Jones doesn't have huge power even as 110 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 5: a light heavyweight. His knockdown rate is actually lower than 111 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 5: the UFC average, and that's including all weight classes men 112 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 5: and women. So not a big power guy. But you know, 113 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 5: we saw Sarah Gahan get taken down by Francis Naganu, 114 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 5: who learned how to wrestle backstage that night, like if 115 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 5: Jones can wrestle at all, here huge advantage on the ground, 116 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 5: So it's pretty binary. Whichever arena this fight takes place in, 117 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 5: one guy is a huge advantage. And then there's the 118 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 5: cardio issues. I know he's trains well, has good cardio historically, 119 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 5: but carrying forty fifty extra pounds that's gonna wear on 120 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 5: you over five rounds. So with all those factors, I'd 121 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 5: take this to minus one thirty mins. I think earlier 122 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 5: in the week you could even get plus money and 123 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 5: inside of the distance, but those seem to be gone now. 124 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 4: I just want to be clear, I didn't place that bad. 125 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 4: I am on the Gone side. I feel like he 126 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 4: has more decision equity, which is why just ended up 127 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: playing gone and not the fight to end inside the distance. 128 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 4: But for reference heavyweight fights, and inside the distance about 129 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 4: seventy five percent of the time, and you're basically getting 130 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 4: a pick them price. So based on math, based on 131 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 4: mathematical averages. I know both these guys are particularly durable, 132 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 4: but that's still a twenty five percent differential relative to 133 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 4: the average heavyweight. 134 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 5: Fight right jones ability too, You know this is not 135 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 5: It's not like John Jones hasn't put people away, slice 136 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 5: guys up with elbows gone, and knock anyone out. It's 137 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 5: not like, you know, these lower level heavyweights are just 138 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 5: going to lean on each other. These are dynamic, active 139 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 5: strikers and grapplers. 140 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: So gon Gone and Jones at ten o'clock eastern Saturday 141 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: in Vegas T Mobile Arena pay per view fight the 142 00:06:55,440 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: co main women's flyweight title belt. We've gone Schevchenko and Grosso. 143 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: That's the other fight we want to discuss here. We 144 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: also have our fight of the night coming out that 145 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: the guys want to get to. When we look at 146 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: this particular matchup Zurillo, how when when you break it down, 147 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: how do you assess maybe finding an angle on Grosso, 148 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: I know, in the plus five hundred plus five fifty 149 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: range on the money line, or is there an angle 150 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: on Chifchenko where you can get as a sizable favorite, 151 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: you can play something where you don't have to lay 152 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: so much juice. 153 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going with the total. You know, we just 154 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: talked about the total. 155 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 4: Wrapped up talking about the total in the main event, 156 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 4: said seventy five percent finish rate at heavyweight, the line 157 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: around fifty percent. Well, this line for this woman's flyweight bout, 158 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: you're getting plus money around plus one forty on the 159 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 4: fight to go to decision. Woman's flyweight spouts go to 160 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 4: a decision at a sixty percent clip, So you're getting 161 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 4: plus money on something that usually hits at a sixty 162 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: percent rate. Now, Valentine and Chefchenko obviously an incredible fighter, 163 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 4: not a super potent finisher, but very dangerous, and I 164 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 4: think the biggest threat she has to finishing this fight 165 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 4: is on the ground. She has a significant grappling advantage. 166 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 4: She's not some massive one punch power on the feet. 167 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 4: She has a head kick knockout on a record, but 168 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 4: more often than not it is a punch that wobbles 169 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 4: an opponent and then follow up shots. And she's more 170 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 4: of a counter striker than a proactive pressure fighter. So 171 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 4: she's going to rely on her opponents to come forward 172 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 4: and create the action, which more often than not leads 173 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 4: to relatively low volume kickboxing fights. So as Valentina pursues 174 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 4: the takedown aggressively pursues the finish on the mat, I'm 175 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: expecting a relatively competitive kickboxing match when they're on the feed. 176 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 4: I think Valentina certainly gets the better of it, but 177 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 4: I think Grosso can be competitive. And Grosso has very 178 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 4: much leveled up her defensive Brazilian jiu jitsu over time 179 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 4: as well, and she's able to stay safe on the match. 180 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 4: She's not a fighter like Jess Gondraj who is going 181 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 4: to aggressively over exert herself and put herself in danger 182 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: in order to get back to her feet. I think 183 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 4: Grosso knows how to stay safe right out the round 184 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 4: and then wait until the next round and get back 185 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 4: in the fight. So I do like the overs. The 186 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 4: over three and a half rounds is actually at minus 187 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 4: one oh five. That would probably be my preferred bet, 188 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 4: just because we've seen in these title fights when somebody's 189 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 4: down in the later rounds, they tend to bite on 190 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 4: the mouthpiece and go a little bit crazy. In that 191 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: fifth round so the over three and a half rounds 192 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: and to pick them price, then also the fight to 193 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 4: reach a decision and shift Chenko by decision at two 194 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 4: to one, All of those sort of correlate. I think 195 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 4: the over three and a half my favorite bet though. 196 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Billy no quotes here for this particular fight, don't worry, 197 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: but particularly when I could help myself. But when you 198 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: read up on this and kind of looking back at 199 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: some clips, it seems Grosso's style kind of plays into 200 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: what Chivchenko likes to do. So are you like Zarillo 201 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: or Totals or somewhere you'd like to go? Is there 202 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: somewhere else you want to look? 203 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 6: Absolutely? 204 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 5: You know, he really hit most of the points I 205 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 5: wanted to get to. The one thing I was actually 206 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 5: on Tyler, say, against Chevchenko in her last fight from 207 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 5: a stylistic standpoint, she was like plus six hundred or 208 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 5: something and lost. 209 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 6: By a split decision. 210 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 5: So I think there's definitely some holes in Shevchenko that 211 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 5: we can poke. But man, Grosso is just a really 212 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 5: bad style to exploit that, you know. Sean pointed out 213 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 5: the counter striking Grosso throws like an absurd amount of 214 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 5: strikes per round. She's the highest on the card in 215 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 5: terms of volume, which plays right into Shevchenko's hands. But 216 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 5: to Shawn's other point, one of my favorite bets they 217 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 5: have at Fandel they have alternate round betting where you 218 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 5: get a couple different rounds and or decision all for 219 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 5: one price. Chevchenko in rounds four, rounds five, or by 220 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 5: decision is plus one twenty. That's my favorite way of 221 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 5: playing it. But really all the angles that Sean pointed 222 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 5: out with, you know, attritional finishes, down the stretch, Grosso's 223 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 5: defensive jiu jitsu, all that stuff, I just like getting 224 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 5: all three of those rolled into one. So if she 225 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 5: gets a late stoppage, cool at Cashes goes to a decision, 226 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 5: Cool at Cash is you know, just just an awesome 227 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 5: offering by Fandle to have those splits when we can 228 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 5: take advantage of that in fights that we see this way, let's. 229 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: Go to our favorite underdog plays for the weekend. We 230 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: always like looking on the card and finding some plus 231 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: money instead of having to lay some juice, so Zarella, 232 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: when you look up and down for this for this 233 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: particular weekend, UFC to eighty five, what do you like? 234 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 4: Jessica Piney plus two forty five, much bigger fighter here, 235 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 4: four inches taller, six inch reach advantage against Tabitha Ricci. 236 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 4: Ricci does have the grappling advantage. I think she's fought 237 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 4: fighters in there in her past, though, who're willing to 238 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 4: accept position and lay on their back. I don't think 239 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 4: Jess Piney is going to give her all of that 240 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 4: top control for free. If she gets taken down, she 241 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 4: will proactively look to get back to her feet. I 242 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 4: think she is going to be extremely competitive in the 243 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 4: striking purely because of the link advantage. If not have 244 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 4: the advantage there, this fight should be much closer to 245 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: a pick them, assuming they're going to be striking, and 246 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 4: I actually do think they're going to be striking more 247 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 4: than they're going to be grappling, So I understand why 248 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 4: Ricci's favored. She has more finishing upside, she has the 249 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 4: grappling upside, but I don't think she's going to have 250 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 4: an advantage in the grappling as much as this line suggests. 251 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 4: I like Penny down here two about plus two to 252 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 4: thirty five, and I also like her decision line down 253 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 4: to about four to one. I think she's a solid 254 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: value in both markets and definitely expect this fight to 255 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 4: pay out more competitively than that line suggests. 256 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: Maybe she loses a decision, but I think she'ld be 257 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 3: more competitive. 258 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: All right, Billy, but you got underdog play. 259 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 5: Real quick on Zerrilla's point. Fight very very likely to 260 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 5: go to a decision. That's one of those plus two 261 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 5: forty five. Like you have a very good chance of 262 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 5: getting saved by some bad judging even if she actually 263 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 5: loses the fight. 264 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's like minus two seventy to go to decision. 265 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 4: And I mean, considering it's going to a decision, it 266 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 4: should be competitive. 267 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: Why is one plus two forty five? 268 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, but uh, I'm looking at it's actually the opening 269 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 5: card of about Esteban Ribovich, and I'm probably butchering that 270 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 5: name two UFC debuwers. I don't know a ton about 271 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 5: either guy, but Ribovich is eleven to zero, big knockout 272 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 5: on the Contender series. He's fighting Loike Lowick Radjabov, who 273 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 5: it went too or four to four on one in 274 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 5: the PFL, you know, kind of mixed results in a 275 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 5: lesser league. Again, don't know a ton about these guys, 276 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 5: but Ribavich is plus two ten or so it's another one. 277 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 5: I think this should be a lot closer than that. 278 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 5: I don't think anyone in the markets really has that 279 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 5: strong of a read. So if I can get plus 280 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 5: two ten on someone that no one knows anything about 281 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 5: and his opponent, I'm gonna take it. 282 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: Do you normally do that when it's just two fighters 283 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: that you're not all familiar with, or it's someone that's 284 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: new to the scene. 285 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 5: It's pretty rare that I know this little about two 286 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 5: fighters on a pay per view card. 287 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 6: You know, you just don't see those guys get put 288 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 6: on these events. 289 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 5: Usually I'll have a read on one guy or the other. 290 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 5: We've got Contender series tape on one guy and he 291 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 5: looked pretty good, which it plus two ten is more 292 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 5: than enough justification for me. 293 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 6: So not always. 294 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 5: You know, you try to read the records and see 295 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 5: what's going on. But neither of them have fought really 296 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 5: high level competition, which gives us much insight into what 297 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 5: they're doing. 298 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: All right, Ribovich has six KOs five submissions, But of 299 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: course this is a pay per view bigger stage should 300 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: be good. But yeah, that's fair, I mean the number, Yeah, 301 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. Let's go to the fighter 302 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: what's that. 303 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 6: That we're betting the number, not the fighter on this 304 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 6: right exactly. Yep. 305 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: That's important to note because sometimes it's hard to not 306 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: separate those two things when it comes to really anything 307 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: when it comes to sports betting. Let's go to the 308 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: fight of the night, uh Matouche Gamra and Jalen Turner. 309 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: How do you want to play this one? Sorillo? 310 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a really good fight. Turner is an 311 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 4: extremely dangerous lightweight. He's massive for the division six foot 312 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 4: three four just taller seven entre. Each advantage here typically 313 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 4: has length size advantage over his opponents, very dangerous, guillotine, 314 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 4: dangerous grappler with his very long limbs and on the 315 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 4: feet that length poses problems for a lot of his opponents. 316 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 4: He's also very powerful for the division because I don't 317 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 4: know how he really makes the weight, but he's able to. 318 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 4: That said, I think this is a serious step up 319 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 4: in competition for him. Here he's going from facing the 320 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 4: likes of Brock Weavers and brad Rad Ordeal was a 321 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 4: good win. He beat him quickly, though we have not 322 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: seen Turner consistently extended fights. Seeing how his cardio plays 323 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 4: out in the third round He's gotten stuck on his 324 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 4: back in the past when you're able to wrestle him, 325 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 4: and that's where I think Gamron has the real advantage here. 326 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 4: He is an excellent chain wrestler. He attempts one takedown 327 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 4: per minute in the UFC, absolutely relentless. Is coming in 328 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 4: on short notice, but he has sensational fiberron cardio. I 329 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 4: don't think his cardio is going to be an advantage 330 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 4: here or be at a be an issue here, and 331 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 4: Turner has questionable cardio, so I expect Gamrot to really 332 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 4: take over down the stretch. If Turner cannot snatch up 333 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 4: a guillotine, He's going to get stuck on his back 334 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 4: for long stretches if he can't keep it on the feet. 335 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 4: I don't really see him finishing Gamrod. I think Gamrod 336 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 4: eventually drowns him with cardio. However, I don't see a 337 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 4: standing knockout as a very high percentage of Gamrot's finish probability. 338 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 4: And though he has finished opponents on the ground via 339 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 4: TKO had a beautiful knee to Carlos Diego Ferrera's ribs 340 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 4: that got a TKO on the mat. He's more of 341 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 4: a submission guy and a decision guy. I like his submission, 342 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 4: decision prop submission or decision prop at minus one ten 343 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 4: that's where I vetted up to. It's currently minus one 344 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 4: oh five at FanDuel projected that closer to minus one twenty. 345 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 4: So we're gonna take his submission equity, his decision equity, 346 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 4: the wrestling upside all correlated together at that minus one 347 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 4: oh five number on Gamrot, big discount relative to his 348 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 4: money line price. 349 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: So, Billy, I feel like you got a Zarillo kind 350 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: of mapped out. You either take a Gamrot cardio side 351 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: or Turner. Can Turner put grappling have the grappling advantage? 352 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 6: Yeah? 353 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 5: I hear a lot of what Zurilla is saying and 354 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 5: agree with most of it in principle, but he kind 355 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 5: of goes over the important part of why this short 356 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 5: notice fight matters. Gamarrat took this one in about two weeks. 357 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 5: It's not as cardio. I am not at all worried 358 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 5: about his cardio. He'll probably have better cardio than Turner, 359 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 5: but what he won't have is an extended period of 360 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 5: time to prepare for a six foot three lefty. That's 361 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 5: not something that Gamrot's face. There's just not a ton 362 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 5: of those. You know, Turner is the tallest lightweight on 363 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 5: the UFC roster, also left handed, very awkward. 364 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 6: You know. 365 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 5: He uses his length on the ground to get chokes 366 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 5: and arm attacks and stuff and positions you just wouldn't 367 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 5: expect them to be possible because he's so much taller. 368 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 5: You know, if anyone out there's done any kind of grappling, 369 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 5: you get those tall, long guys, you think you're safe, 370 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 5: but all of a sudden they pull your arm behind 371 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 5: your back because they've got the reach edge all of that. 372 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 5: If Gamrat had a full fight, camp would have no doubts. 373 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 5: He'd be able to account for all that. You know, 374 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 5: the game planet, they'd work it out. He's a much 375 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 5: better fighter here. But man, on two weeks, you can't 376 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 5: just roll in and fight a guy like that. You've 377 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 5: never fought anyone like this before. There aren't guys like 378 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 5: this out there. And this is another one where the 379 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 5: story of the fight is kind of this line. 380 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 6: Movement. 381 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 5: Turner opened around plus one forty across the industry. Get 382 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 5: him as high as plus one eighty five right now. 383 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 5: If that movement keeps continuing, we might even see plus 384 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 5: two hundred by fight night. I'm comfortable with the one 385 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 5: eighty range that we're seeing now. This is one if 386 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 5: we can get a better line, I'm waiting all the 387 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 5: way till Saturday night and to try to pull plus 388 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 5: two hundred. 389 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 6: Get a little greedy on this one. 390 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: All right, very good. As we normally do, we do 391 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: dedicate a section of the podcast to top props. But 392 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: as you probably have heard already and in previous episode, 393 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: Sean and Billy, will you know, add those in, spray 394 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: some or sprinkle in some notes on decision or any 395 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: other you know, first first minute, finish, time of finish, 396 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: go to the distance, et cetera. So they work those 397 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: in throughout the show. But if there's one yet you 398 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: like the most, Seanzilla, what would it be? 399 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 4: Trevin Jones by Knockout a plus q sixty over Cody Garbrandt. 400 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 4: If you search around, there's his highest plus three twenty 401 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 4: five out there. If you search around, there's as low 402 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 4: as plus one eighty out there at some very sharp books. 403 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 4: I think the sharp money is on Jones by Knockout. 404 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 6: Here. 405 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 4: Certain fighters get to a stage in their careers where 406 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 4: it's tragic because you could see that they still have 407 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 4: their skills, their speed, their power, their athleticism, but the 408 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 4: chin is gone. 409 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying. 410 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 4: Osp who lost two weeks ago still had that skill set, 411 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 4: because it was very obvious he was shot. But these 412 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 4: guys do get to a stage in their career where 413 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 4: going into the fight, I'm almost cringing because I know 414 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 4: the moment they get hit, they're gonna wabble. And Cody 415 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 4: has gotten to that stage of his career very sadly, 416 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 4: I'm not sure he can take one clean, hard punch 417 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 4: and stay standing at this point he got knocked out 418 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 4: by a flyweight, or sorry, he got knocked out by 419 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 4: a flyweight. Coming back up here to one thirty five, 420 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 4: I'm not too confident, especially going against the guy who 421 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 4: gets hit, who hits hard in Trevin Jones, that he's 422 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 4: gonna be able to take any The problem is both 423 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 4: of these guys like to engage in staring contests. They're 424 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 4: very low volume strikers who stare at each other. So 425 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 4: I'm not as inclined to bet the fight tend inside 426 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 4: the distance because they made to stare at each other 427 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 4: for fifteen minutes. But I do think if it goes 428 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 4: to a decision, Garbrandt is more likely to win because 429 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 4: he is the wrestling advantage, can get control, time, take 430 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 4: things down, fight a little bit smarter. He's never fought 431 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 4: that way in his career or very rarely has fought 432 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 4: that wayne his career. There may not be many of them, 433 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 4: but there should be a few very explosive, high variance 434 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 4: exchanges in this fight, and I think they're fifty to 435 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 4: fifty to see who falls in that. So Jones at 436 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 4: plus two sixty by Ko when garbrand is closer to 437 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 4: I believe plus one fifteen clear value side ins fight Billy. 438 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 6: Tough prop Yeah, one hundred percent. 439 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 5: With Sean it is said, you know, Cody's a guy 440 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 5: who got to the UFC I think is like fifth 441 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 5: pro fight or something, and just probably got thrown in 442 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 5: there a little too early because they have no chin 443 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 5: left at thirty one. 444 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 6: It's tough. 445 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 5: But anyway, I'm looking at the ian Gary mitch over 446 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 5: his Keenan Song fight. That one's plus two thirty to 447 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 5: go to a decision, and I think there's just a 448 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 5: fundamental little bit of a misunderstanding here because Gary is 449 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 5: a huge favorite minus seven hundred minus eight hundred range. 450 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 5: But that doesn't mean, he's necessarily just. 451 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,719 Speaker 6: Gonna walk through a guy and finish him. 452 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 5: He's been kind of disappointing with some of these fights 453 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 5: where he's came in as a huge favorite and they 454 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 5: haven't been all that exciting. He's definitely fighting to win, 455 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 5: not put on a show. Both of his last two 456 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 5: wins were by decision over Darien Weeks and Gabe Green. 457 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 5: Not exactly stand out to the division or anyone we 458 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 5: should be scared of. Gary's gonna come out here. He's 459 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,239 Speaker 5: gonna win minutes. You know, he's gonna be opportunistic. If 460 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 5: there's an opportunity to take it, he will. But he's 461 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 5: not a guy who pushes for pushes for the finish 462 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 5: all that hard. He likes to play it safe, likes 463 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 5: to make sure he gets the w So plus two 464 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 5: thirty pretty good line on that. I'm just gonna sprinkle. 465 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 5: This isn't a huge you know, don't lay a bunch 466 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 5: of money on it. But that's a pretty good line 467 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 5: for a guy who doesn't really hunt for finishers that 468 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 5: aggressively against high level competition. 469 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: Okay, before we go, best bets for well, these are 470 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: all best bets, but your best bet that you want 471 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: to make your best bet for UFC two eighty five. 472 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: I know Zerillo, like you know Zerolo, I see you 473 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: smirk like that. I'm already thinking about baseball, and stay 474 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: tuned for that later on because it's like we'll get 475 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: there when we get their best bet for UFC two 476 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: eighty five. 477 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 4: Now, you know, it's something like sometimes I do have 478 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 4: a bet I feel a little bit better about. I'd 479 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 4: say this week my best bet I do feel a 480 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 4: little bit better about than the rest of the bet. 481 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 3: Some weeks I feel kind of the same about everything, 482 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: and we want to he look get the same. 483 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 4: But my best bet this week I feel a little 484 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 4: bit better about drig is duplus inside the distance uh 485 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 4: minus one thirty five at FanDuel. Again, that's a sharp line. 486 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 4: If you shop around, you could find as low as 487 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 4: minus one ten out there, So definitely look for the 488 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 4: best available number on this because I projected this at 489 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 4: minus one thirty five. 490 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 3: That's about where i'd bet. 491 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 6: It up to. 492 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 4: Though Drake is ten years younger. I used to run 493 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 4: into trouble betting on fighters who were past their prime. 494 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 4: If you look into the data, when a fighter is 495 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 4: ten years younger than their opponent, in the UFC, they 496 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 4: win ten percent more often than the betting market suggests. 497 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 4: There's like a ten percent edge betting on fighters or 498 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 4: ten years younger than their opponents. Across the board. Certain 499 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 4: matchups may not matter this one, I think it does. 500 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 4: Both guys neither has particularly good cardio. Drake is much 501 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 4: more willing to walk through the fire as they both tire. 502 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 4: He breathes with his mouth open. Seems like he's completely 503 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 4: gassing out. He breed up. He beat up Brad Tavarrez 504 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 4: bad for three rounds. He should have finished that fight. 505 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 4: He's finished. I believe seventeen of his eighteen career wins. 506 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 4: The Taveras win was the only one he didn't finish, 507 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 4: and he beat him to a pulp for three rounds. 508 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 4: He also finished Darren Till, who's very difficult to finish 509 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 4: in his last fight. I know Till has been finished 510 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 4: in the past, but he's a tough guy too. Drake 511 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 4: has beat him up and submitted him once. Derek Brunson 512 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 4: gets tired. After that five or six minute mark, he 513 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 4: starts breathing really heavily. That pressure goes away. He starts 514 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 4: backing up due pless. He gonna put the pressure on. 515 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 4: I think he finishes brunts in round two or round three. 516 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 4: My favorite bet on this fight though, maybe do plus 517 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 4: after round one because there's a chance Brunson gets a takedown, 518 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 4: Brunston gets some top time, and douplus he moves closer 519 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 4: to a pick him or plus money after round one. 520 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 4: If Brunson wins the round, I would absolutely smash duplus 521 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 4: at that point. Brunson is going to gas at that 522 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 4: six or seven minute mark, and I think du plus 523 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 4: he's gonna put him away later, So do plus inside 524 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 4: the distance at minus one oh five. Wouldn't be surprised 525 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 4: if what happened in the first round, but I do 526 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 4: expect a later second or third round finish. 527 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: All right, jump on this. I think this is what 528 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: Zerrilla is getting at too. Before that line keeps moving, 529 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: Billy is are you in the same boat? Do you 530 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: have a best bet that you feel better about than 531 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: other bets or are you both the same? 532 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 5: I do, And there's also a age angle at play 533 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 5: in mine as well, so perfect Q up by Zarello. 534 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 5: I'm looking at Amanda hebis. I believe the best line 535 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 5: is now about minus one twenty and I'm gonna do 536 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 5: a little bit of mma math here, which I'm gonna 537 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 5: get dragged for. People don't like it. It's not a 538 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 5: great way to handicap generally, but hear me out. Amanda 539 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 5: Hebas and Vivian Oudajujo both one and two in their 540 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 5: last three. 541 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 6: They both have losses to Caitlyn Chukeg. 542 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 5: In Oudajujro just got dominated by cheu Keg into decision. 543 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 5: I think it was thirty twenty seven on two judges, 544 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 5: twenty nine to twenty eight. 545 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 6: In the other Hebus lost. 546 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 5: A very close split decision that I really thought she won, 547 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 5: hugely controversial on the UFC Twitter, you know, everyone was. 548 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 6: Up in arms about it. 549 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 5: That in and of itself is not enough for me 550 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 5: to say she necessarily beats out of Jujo. You know, 551 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 5: just because you do better against the common opponent, it 552 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 5: doesn't mean all that much. But Hebus is also seven 553 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 5: years younger Ouda Jujo's thirty six. You know, if we're 554 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 5: looking at how they did in that fight, Outahujro has 555 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 5: probably gotten worse since then. She's probably declined a little 556 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 5: bit just based on her age. Her age, Hebus is 557 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 5: only twenty nine, still getting better. One of the best 558 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 5: grapplers in the flyweight division. You know, I believe a 559 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 5: black belt in both judo and jiu jitsu, and she's 560 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 5: on the upswing, so I don't want to go much 561 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 5: beyond this minus one twenty just because we get to 562 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 5: the judges again, and hebus is small for the division, 563 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 5: so it looks like she's getting hit harder than she 564 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 5: probably is. But I take her down to minus one 565 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 5: thirty minus one thirty five range. But minus one twenty 566 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 5: feels like a very strong pick on her, just based 567 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,959 Speaker 5: on the directions their careers are heading and how similar 568 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 5: they've performed against common opposition. 569 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: All right, gents, love it, good stuff, good breakdown, and 570 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: look forward to the weekend. They'll do it for the 571 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: UFC two eighty five betting preview here on the Action 572 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: Network podcast. We are presented by FanDuel. 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