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Speaker 1: Disgraceland is a production of double Elvis.

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Speaker 2: John Lennon. His state of mind in the nineteen seventies

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Speaker 2: and the circumstances surrounding his death are so complex that

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Speaker 2: two episodes are needed to properly tell this story. If

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Speaker 2: you're just getting hip to this now, I suggest you

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Speaker 2: hit pause and go back to Disgraceland episode thirteen, or

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Speaker 2: part one of the John Lennon story, where we discuss

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Speaker 2: the voices in Mark David Chapman's head, his obsession with

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Speaker 2: Lennon's rival, the musician Todd Rundgren, John and Yoko's drug bust,

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Speaker 2: and May Pang. In this episode, we finally get around

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Speaker 2: to some great solo John Lennon music, unlike the music

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Speaker 2: played at the top of the show. That wasn't great music.

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Speaker 2: That was a preset loop for my melotron called Bolero

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Speaker 2: Clarinet's Low MK one. I played you that loop because

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Speaker 2: I can't afford the rights to Midnight Train to Georgia

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Speaker 2: by Gladys Knight and the Pips. And why would I

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Speaker 2: play you that specific slice of Leaving Trained Cheese? Could

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Speaker 2: I afford it? Because that was the number one song

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Speaker 2: in America on October thirty first, nineteen seventy three, and

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Speaker 2: that was the day that John Lennon found himself hungover

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, estranged from his wife and subconsciously trying

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Speaker 2: to drink himself to death before an assassin would complete

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Speaker 2: the job. Seven years later, on this episode A Lost

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Speaker 2: Weekend leaving trains a determined assassin and a dead beatle

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Speaker 2: I'm Jake Brennan and miss his disgrace. Land In October

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy three, John Lennon, in his rambling concubine May Pang,

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Speaker 2: landed in Los Angeles and quickly took to the town.

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Speaker 2: A squad of hard partying rock and rollers was pulled

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Speaker 2: notorious Keith Moon of the Who, Rolling Stone, sax player

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Speaker 2: Bobby Keys aka the only man alive who could keep

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Speaker 2: up with Keith Richards, songwriter Harry Nilson, who at the

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Speaker 2: moment looked as if he'd spent more time swimming laps

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Speaker 2: in a pool of Brandy Alexander's than he did writing

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Speaker 2: songs in a recording studio, and of course, the notorious

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Speaker 2: record producer Phil Spector, who was lording over the scene

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Speaker 2: in his capacity as producer of Lennon's newest project, an

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Speaker 2: album of early fifties standards that had influenced John in

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Speaker 2: his teddy boy days called rock and Roll. The recording

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Speaker 2: sessions were a violent, drug and alcohol fueled mess that

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Speaker 2: eventually ended with a gun wielding Phil Specter in his

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Speaker 2: goons literally taking John Lenon hostage, blindfolding him and tying

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Speaker 2: him up in one of Specter's bedrooms to allow Phil

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Speaker 2: the time necessary to steal away the session's master recordings,

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Speaker 2: which would then not surface for years to come. And

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Speaker 2: when not recording, things weren't much different. Lennon drank himself

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Speaker 2: into a stupor. Daily nights were spent either trashing the

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Speaker 2: homes of celebrity friends who had generously allowed John in

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Speaker 2: May to crash, or out on the town looking for trouble,

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Speaker 2: orgies with strangers, fights with loud mouthed fans, and drugged

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Speaker 2: out late night jams with any number of the top

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Speaker 2: tier pop stars in town, most notably an impromptu cocaine

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Speaker 2: field session with Stevie Wonder, Paul McCartney, and Ringo Starr.

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Speaker 2: Accounts of the session have Paul playing drums and Ringo

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Speaker 2: the drummer playing the Kochspoon. The party in Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: for John Lennon never stopped, but he longed for Yoko.

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Speaker 2: When he wasn't busy drinking himself to death, he was

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Speaker 2: on the phone begging Yoko to take him back, but

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Speaker 2: just too much fun. She was putting together new music

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Speaker 2: by the axe Man in a way that John hadn't

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Speaker 2: He dove into the deep end of the Brandy Alexander

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Speaker 2: Pool with Harry Nilsson, and the two took to the

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Speaker 2: Troubadour nightclub or. On this evening, a celeb filled crowd

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Speaker 2: So naturally, John entered the ca with a co Tex

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Speaker 2: and John replied sucking Ringo's cock. The three were quickly

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Speaker 2: Alexander's with three times the cognac, and when they arrived,

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Speaker 2: sailors from the Liverpool Docks, and Laffer told John to

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Speaker 2: on lenin a natural Heckler yelled to the stage, Hey

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Speaker 2: Smothers brothers fucker cow. A waitress was dispatched to try

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Speaker 2: Lennon asked her do you know who I am? And

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Speaker 2: she replied some asshole with a cotex on his head.

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Speaker 2: That sealed it. Lennon and Nilsen erupted and song again.

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Speaker 2: More booze from the crowd, more profanity from Lenin. Club

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Speaker 2: and he resisted and started swinging his fists blindly. One

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Speaker 2: and Peter Lawford, who having made his bones and drunken

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Speaker 2: brother in law Teddy Kennedy, knew exactly what to do.

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Speaker 2: Grabbed the little bastard by the neck and get him

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Speaker 2: the hell out of there fast. So that's what happened.

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Speaker 2: Lawford in a group of club security and waitstaff grabbed

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Speaker 2: where upon entering the now iconic La Hotspot, John Lennon,

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Speaker 2: the ex beadle mister go gookachew the counterculture voice of

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Speaker 2: stumbled into none other than Todd Rungren. And run Gren

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Speaker 2: was eager to connect with this hero, but lenin true

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Speaker 2: watched John Lennon harass the weightstaff in between SIPs of

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Speaker 2: his brandy Alexander's, until he eventually slouched into his booth

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Speaker 2: Lennon he was watching was no rock and roll deity.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't even a working class hero. He was thick

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Speaker 2: and ordinary. What a fraud. The sun broke above Central

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Speaker 2: the Ono Lenin home in Manhattan's Dakota Apartments. John was

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Speaker 2: up early making breakfast for his five year old son, Sean.

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Speaker 2: Mornings with Sean were sacred. Afternoons were a different story.

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Speaker 2: While Sean was being tended to by his governess and

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Speaker 2: tried not to snort heroine chain smoked cigarettes. He binged

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Speaker 2: ignored Paul McCartney's calls, and masturbated out of boredom, usually

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Speaker 2: to the thought of journalist Barbara Walters, or if he

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Speaker 2: or if it was a Wednesday, his masseuse Kimmy would

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Speaker 2: house call hand jobs on him. But today wasn't a Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: and it wasn't yet afternoon either. John and Jean sat

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Speaker 2: the radio, which almost always played musaic or classical, never pop.

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Speaker 2: But this morning was different. One of the servants had

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Speaker 2: the morning, what he heard had him shook, rattled, and

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Speaker 2: rolling inside with jealousy. The hell was this fucking Springsteen?

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Speaker 2: This little bridge and Tunnel rat was beating Lenin at

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Speaker 2: his own game, heavy hearted romantic cynicism dressed up as pop.

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Speaker 2: Lenin's Double Fantasy, his first record of real creative consequence

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Speaker 2: since the Beatles, was an earnest hard on his sleeve,

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Speaker 2: its first single, Just Like Starting Over, was stalled on

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Speaker 2: the charts at number eight. And here comes Jersey's own

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Speaker 2: Hungry Heart, from the deeply rooted double album The River.

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Speaker 2: John was second guessing himself. He thought that maybe he

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Speaker 2: shouldn't have made Double Fantasy the sugary concept album that

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Speaker 2: the Yoko songs. It was like pulling teeth from a

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Speaker 2: pipoll trying to get her to singing key. Anyway, he

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Speaker 2: left Sean to his cereal, picked up the phone and

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Speaker 2: dialed up his producer, Jack Douglas. Have you heard this?

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Speaker 2: He held the phone to the kitchen radio speaker. It's incredible, Jack.

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Speaker 2: What am I doing dicking around with songs about milk

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Speaker 2: and honey? It's nineteen eighty Jack, and we're going to

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Speaker 2: La book a studio. We're gonna make a real record,

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Speaker 2: I'll call Ringo. I'll get a great song for him.

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Speaker 2: Nobody told me that he dazed like these And Jack,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna re record Strawberry Fields. You hear me. We're

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Speaker 2: going to re record Strawberry Fields the way that it

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Speaker 2: was meant to be recorded. John slammed the phone down,

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Speaker 2: looked at Sean, took his piece fingers to the insides

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Speaker 2: like a big fish, while crossing his eyes. And Sean

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Speaker 2: laughed so hard milk spurted out of his nose. We'll

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Speaker 2: be right back after this word, word word. John Lennon

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Speaker 2: and I had the stack of morning papers and magazines

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Speaker 2: it's here, he thought to himself. He pushed aside the

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Speaker 2: New York Times the National Inquirer, and pulled up the

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Speaker 2: latest edition of Esquire magazine. In it a hit job

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Speaker 2: that he knew was coming. An article entitled John Lennon,

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Speaker 2: Where Are You? In which the frustrated writer, unable to

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Speaker 2: corner John for an interview during his recent house dad years,

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Speaker 2: used public record information to piece together a picture of

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Speaker 2: John's life in the latter half of the seventies, and

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Speaker 2: the result was a scorching article detailing the Ono Lennon

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty million dollars largesse and an unfair

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Speaker 2: depiction of John as a middle aged businessman more concerned

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Speaker 2: with tax loopholes for his real estate holdings than he

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Speaker 2: was with peace and love or making music. And John

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Speaker 2: really didn't care. After all, it was Yoko who took

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Speaker 2: care of the business. The article at least made it

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Speaker 2: someone else did care. Five thousand miles away, Mark David

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Speaker 2: Chapman read the same article and burned with rage. The

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Speaker 2: article confirmed everything he already suspected of his former hero

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Speaker 2: John Lennon, that he was a fraud, a phony. It's

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Speaker 2: easy to imagine. No possessions. Yeah, no shit, jocko onon,

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Speaker 2: Oh it's easy for you. You have everything. I have nothing.

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Speaker 2: I'm a nobody. I mean nothing. Yet I'm the one

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Speaker 2: the one who's living an authentic life, not like the phonies.

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Speaker 2: I'm not the fucking hypocrite. Here man the voices, and

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Speaker 2: Mark's head started to gather. The phony must die, said

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Speaker 2: the Catcher in the Rye. Mark felt himself moving finally

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Speaker 2: with a purpose, and it was time. He bought a

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Speaker 2: killing the world's biggest phony would make him a hero.

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Speaker 2: he would literally be sucked into the pages of The

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Speaker 2: He would no longer be Mark David Chapman, the loser,

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Speaker 2: Happiness warmed his other hand from the touch of his gun,

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Speaker 2: The voices in Mark's head exploded. He was paralyzed. Here

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Speaker 2: silently held the copy of Double Fantasy out in front

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Speaker 2: For a moment, the thought of killing Lenin was completely gone.

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Speaker 2: The phony must die, said the catcher in the rye.

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Speaker 2: clumsily crouched into a combat stance and whipped the stumb

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Speaker 2: how grave the wounds were, so the two uniforms hoisted

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Speaker 2: But by murdering John Lennon, Chapman had accomplished one of

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Speaker 2: He may have still been a fat and pathetic loser.

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Speaker 2: But he was forever the fat, pathetic loser who killed

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Speaker 2: John Lennon. The irony, of course, is that he killed

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Speaker 2: on Yoko, and after a decade of bad behavior, missed

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Speaker 2: creative opportunities, excess and paranoia, John Lennon was quite literally

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Speaker 2: that his love for his son Sean was deep, true, inspiring,

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Speaker 2: And so there were more records to make double fantasy

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Speaker 2: proved to him that he sat still had it. He

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Speaker 2: No more running off for lost weekends in Hollywood, no

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Speaker 2: the game where celebrities let the public's perception of them

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Speaker 2: define them and win the day no matter what. No,

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Speaker 2: John Lennon couldn't truck with that. He needed to tell

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Speaker 2: this was confusing. It certainly was to Mark David Chapman,

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Speaker 2: the Rye. The phony must die, so the Catcher in

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Speaker 2: the Rye. But when John Lennon and Mark David Chapman

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Speaker 2: no need to run from his own celebrity. He'd found himself.

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Speaker 2: He knew who he was. He was John Lennon, the Beatle,

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Speaker 2: the raconteur, the Revolutionary, a husband, a father when he

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Speaker 2: was dead, I'm Jake Brennan, and this is disgrace Slander.

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