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Speaker 1: root Ford with word of hope and encouragement for you

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Speaker 3: Christ by Love Sworthy.

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Speaker 1: What a shocking, sobering, sad week in America. The assassination

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Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk has consumed the world over the last week.

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Speaker 1: Within thirty three hours, the manhunt identified Tyler Robinson as

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Speaker 1: the alleged killer, who has been taken into custody and.

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Speaker 2: He's been charged.

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Speaker 1: The online world has gone wild with speculation of what happened.

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Speaker 1: What's shocking and sick to me are the comments and

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Speaker 1: the visceral hatred about Charlie Kirk being spewed online. In

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Speaker 1: the midst of it all, Erica Kirk's wife addressed the

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Speaker 1: nation with a powerful message.

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Speaker 2: Of resolve and honor of Charlie.

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Speaker 1: I'm Memorial services skelet today in Phoenix for Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 1: with his wife Erica, President Trump and Vice President JD

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Speaker 1: Vance headlining the event. We all need to pray for

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Speaker 1: Erica and her children, and we need to pray for

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Speaker 1: our nation. Jenny Corn, director of the White House Faith Office,

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Speaker 1: said this week that this is spiritual warfare, and we're

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Speaker 1: going to fight back. We're going to be light in

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Speaker 1: the darkness. I call on everyone within my voice to

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Speaker 1: be that light. Let that be our resolve in times

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Speaker 1: like these, our hope, our strength.

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Speaker 2: It comes from the Lord.

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Speaker 1: Here's a great verse to hold on to this week,

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Speaker 1: Psal I'm thirty four, verses eighteen and nineteen. The Lord

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Speaker 1: is nighing to them whoever broken heart, and He's saves

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Speaker 1: such as be of a contrite spirit. Many of the

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Speaker 1: afflictions of the righteous, but the Lord delivers him out

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Speaker 1: of them all. Let's stay anchored right there, and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to pray. We're going to get started. God be

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Speaker 1: with us. I pray a special prayer over the Memorial

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Speaker 1: service today. Be with Erica and President Trump and Vice

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Speaker 1: President Fance as they speak. God be with our nation

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Speaker 1: in the midst of this hour. God bring your presence

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Speaker 1: thank you for who you are. I pray all this

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Speaker 1: in the strong name of Jesus. Amen, let's get started.

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Speaker 1: now is Samuel Edriguez. He's the president of the National

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Speaker 1: He's also lead pastor News Engine Church in Sacramento, California.

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Speaker 2: Sam, welcome, thank you.

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Speaker 3: For joining me, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Sam.

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Speaker 1: What a shocking, sober, ring, sad week or so we've

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Speaker 1: had in America. That's just stunning to me.

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Speaker 3: Studying beyond words, tragic, horrific, heart wrenching, and at the

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Speaker 3: same time catalytic. It serves as a catalyst for what

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Speaker 3: I truly believe, what you and others have likewise reference

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Speaker 3: not may very well be will be a tipping point

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Speaker 3: as it pertains to a definitive, well measured awakening, a renewal,

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Speaker 3: if you want to use a classical evangelical term, a

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Speaker 3: revival in America like we haven't seen possibly in all

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Speaker 3: of American history. So this is it. On the other

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Speaker 3: side of the tragic loss of our mutual friend and

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Speaker 3: Kingdom collaborator, Charlie Kirk tim I had the privilege of

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Speaker 3: keynoting for his conference just a few weeks ago, and

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Speaker 3: my family, your family, all of us were broken. We

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Speaker 3: don't we're trying to process this. But on the other

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Speaker 3: side of this, I know that, I know that, I

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Speaker 3: know now we're going to see more generations the and

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Speaker 3: Alpha come to Jesus as Lord and Savior than ever

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Speaker 3: before in American history, and a collective American awakening.

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Speaker 1: Sam In just a few hours, the world is going

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Speaker 1: to turn its attention to Phoenix, Arizona. The memorial service

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Speaker 1: is scheduled there for Charlie, his wife Erica. President Trump.

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Speaker 1: Vice President j D. Vance will be headlining the event.

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Speaker 1: I just can't even imagine how this is going to

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Speaker 1: feel and what we're all going to be thinking, is

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Speaker 1: we journey with them and remembering our good friend.

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Speaker 3: It requires us to make a comparison the last time

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Speaker 3: we saw this sort of overwhelming support. This is President Trump,

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Speaker 3: the vice presid it right. We're talking about members from

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Speaker 3: his team, his cabinet. Of course, his amazing wife is bride.

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Speaker 3: But this level of presidential support, white House support, executive

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Speaker 3: level support, or attendance Billy Graham. You would have to

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Speaker 3: go back to Billy Graham's funeral. What is to say,

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Speaker 3: what it references to, what it conveys to the world,

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Speaker 3: is that faith is not dead in America. Let me

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Speaker 3: repeat that, this memorial service, it's an indicative marketing that

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Speaker 3: faith is not dead in America, that the Judeo Christian

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Speaker 3: value system that undergird's American exceptionalism is strong and steady,

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Speaker 3: strong and steady. So this memorial in Arizona, in front

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Speaker 3: of tens of thousands and then the millions, not just

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Speaker 3: in America, as you well know, but now around the world,

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Speaker 3: it's a global movement, my friend, it's a global movement.

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Speaker 3: What do we conveying. God's not dead in America? Absolutely

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Speaker 3: not the move So it is a fitting tribute to

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get in trouble. You may get in trouble

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Speaker 3: for this, We don't you and I our evangelical worldview

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Speaker 3: and so forth. As born againt followers of Christ, we

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Speaker 3: believe in the sainthood, the universal priesthood of all believers.

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Speaker 3: We're all saints of the finished work of Christ, sinners

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Speaker 3: saved by grace, inevitably becoming saints. However, if there were

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Speaker 3: ever to be an evangelical saint in the twenty first century,

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Speaker 3: I think we have the first millennial one, Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 3: because he truly embodies encourage, conviction, righteous life, his commitment

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Speaker 3: to his family. What a great father, and above all,

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Speaker 3: I would argue, what a great evangelist. We lost an evangelist,

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Speaker 3: but his voice will not be silenced.

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Speaker 2: Sam.

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Speaker 1: The online world has just absolutely lost its mind. I

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Speaker 1: want to say this, the support for Charlie Kirk, the message,

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Speaker 1: what he stood for today, generations showing up visuals everywhere.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the news cannot get off this story. It's

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Speaker 1: not going to go away. It's actually picking up traction.

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Speaker 1: You've got a new book out, Sam Fresh Oil, Holy Fire,

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Speaker 1: New Wine, I mean and Sam forty days. It's a journey.

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Speaker 1: Talk to us about what you're seeing in the country.

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Speaker 1: How important that kind of a message is for this,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a devotional about God's Spirit moving in America

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Speaker 3: and around the world. It's a devotional about the dwelling

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Speaker 3: of the Holy Spirit, about how the Holy Spirit doesn't

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Speaker 3: make you weird, he makes you wired. He connects you

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Speaker 3: to the fullness of everything. Jesus Paper on the Cross.

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Speaker 3: It's about no more private Christianity. Now, isn't that the

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Speaker 3: message of Charlie Kirk Prove me wrong, prove me wrong.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that the message of Charlie Kirk Roman's one point

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Speaker 3: sixteen I am not ashamed of the Gospel. Even in

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Speaker 3: his last moment in Utah. What was he doing preaching

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Speaker 3: the gospel referencing, not just referencing, but describing with great

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Speaker 3: detail the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ as the

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Speaker 3: mark that changed his life and has the power to

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Speaker 3: change every single human being life. This is a call

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Speaker 3: forty days of fresh royal holy firing wine. No more

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Speaker 3: comfortable Christianity, no more. You know what, I keep my

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Speaker 3: faith private. That's not our Christian faith. Matter of fact,

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Speaker 3: we're required to go public Romans ten to nine. You

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Speaker 3: confess publicly, you declare publicly that Jesus Christ is Lord.

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Speaker 3: It's that reality. So Charlie Kirk inspires all of us

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Speaker 3: to continue to march on for Jesus, but to never

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Speaker 3: again permit our Christian faith to be sacrificed on the

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Speaker 3: ultar of political or cultural expediency. Prove me wrong. That's

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Speaker 3: the clarion call right now for the Church of Jesus

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Speaker 3: Chrice in America.

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Speaker 1: Sam Fearing concerned. They're growing now in the midst of it.

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, if there's one thing that I

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Speaker 1: really dialed in on was the fact that evil is real.

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Speaker 1: Evil is I mean, it's present. Get up online and

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Speaker 1: see the hatred, the insanity you're seeing all over the

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Speaker 1: place too, Sam, Just some of your thoughts and your

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Speaker 1: take on what in the world is happening in culture.

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Speaker 3: It's light versus darkness is John chapter one, verse five,

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Speaker 3: five eight. You were once in darkness, Now you're in

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Speaker 3: the light. Live as children of the light. Matthew five

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Speaker 4: You, you believer, are the light of the world.

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Speaker 3: City on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do you

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Speaker 3: light a lamp and hide it. Rather you place it

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Speaker 3: on its stands. So we will shine brightly before all

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Speaker 3: who see it. Who will give glory to your Father,

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Speaker 3: which is in heaven.

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Speaker 2: That's the call.

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Speaker 3: It's light versus darkness. It is I am taken back,

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Speaker 3: tim by a little bit of fragmentation in the body,

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Speaker 3: back on why are we recognizing it is that sort

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Speaker 3: a stumbling block to the fulfillment of what we just

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Speaker 3: laid out initially right this great awakening. However, with all

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Speaker 3: the light versus darkness commentary on social media, it's exposing it.

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Speaker 3: The death of Charlie Kirk is a line in the sand.

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Speaker 3: I will repeat that. It is the quintessential line in

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Speaker 3: the stand in the twenty first century, which is what differentiating.

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Speaker 3: It's distinguishing between light and darkness. There is no middle

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Speaker 3: ground right now, and that's what social media is exposing. However,

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Speaker 3: every single time light stands next to darkness, light always wins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Same.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people have been saying that we need

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Speaker 1: to come together, come together. I'm telling you what, how

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Speaker 1: do you reason with people who want you dead, who

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Speaker 1: want to take you out?

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Speaker 2: You hear what I'm saying. That stuff is unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: The first Dietrich Bonhoeffer would actually be Charlie Kirk himself.

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Speaker 6: I think you're going to see more and more people

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Speaker 6: stand in the gap, unapologetically and boldly, and Erica Kirk

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Speaker 6: is going to lead the charge. I really believe she

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Speaker 6: was born for this. This is her est moment, and

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Speaker 6: she is following the Holy Spirit, and I think God's

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Speaker 6: going to use her in a very powerful way in

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Speaker 6: the days to come.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are praying, Heidi that the church

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Speaker 1: would awaken and take her rightful place. I want to

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Speaker 1: give you the closing thought here. What's your prayer for

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Speaker 1: the church in this hour?

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Speaker 6: Oh boy? My prayer is that God's people, particularly pastors,

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Speaker 6: would stop shying away from the cultural moment that we

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Speaker 6: are living in. That includes speaking into the political arena,

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Speaker 6: That includes talking about cultural issues from your pulp. It's

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Speaker 6: the people of America. The citizens of this country are

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Speaker 6: desperately searching for a shepherd, and shepherds don't listen to

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Speaker 6: the sheep. Shepherds listen to the Lord of Heaven's armies,

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Speaker 6: and that is who we need to take our instruction from.

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Speaker 6: I have been praying for years and years that the

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Speaker 6: church would engage politically. Politics determines policy, and policy shapes

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Speaker 6: the nation. God's people need to be in the policy

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Speaker 6: shaping business. We need to be talking about it chance

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Speaker 6: we get, and my prayer is that God's people will

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Speaker 6: lead boldly again, starting in our Pulpits.

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Speaker 2: God, let it be so. Hi do you, Saint John, Thank.

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Speaker 6: You for joining me, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, he's the lead pastor of New Life

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Speaker 1: Church International, Plant City, Florida. Bishop Calvin Colberts is back.

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Speaker 2: With this.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now is Bishop Calvin Colberts. He currently serves

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Speaker 1: as lead pastor of New Life Church International and Plant City, Florida.

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Speaker 1: He's a member of the National Faith Advisory Board. He's

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Speaker 1: a strong voice on righteousness and culture. Bishop, welcome back, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You for joining me.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Doctor Clinton.

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Speaker 2: Bishop, we get started.

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Speaker 1: The world stopped, really, I mean, over the last week,

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Speaker 1: it's been unbelievable. One of the things that's really stuck

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Speaker 1: in my mind is how evil really exists.

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Speaker 2: Bishop.

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Speaker 1: We saw that horrific murder, cold blooded murder of Arana Zurutska.

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Speaker 1: They're on that light rail train in Charlotte, North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: She was every mom and dad's daughter really looking up

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Speaker 1: with fear in her eyes.

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Speaker 2: Bishop.

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Speaker 1: Two school shootings that just absolutely shook the nation, and

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Speaker 1: then the assassination of our good friend Charlie Kirk. Bishop,

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Speaker 1: just your thoughts on where we're at, what's going on

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Speaker 1: in America.

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Speaker 4: Well, I really believe the season that we're in right

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Speaker 4: now is that there is a spirit of Antichrist that

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Speaker 4: has been on leash in the earth like never before,

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Speaker 4: and to see the apparent evil that is happening on

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Speaker 4: every level, from the stabbing on the train to the

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Speaker 4: school shootings to our dear friend Charlie Chris's lives being

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Speaker 4: taken doing what he's committed to do, and that's propagated

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Speaker 4: the Gospel of g Jesus Christ. It is evident that

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Speaker 4: if we're going to be followers of Jesus Christ today,

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Speaker 4: truly we'll be living out the gospel and becoming martyrs

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Speaker 4: of that because we can lose our life or the

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Speaker 4: calls that we stand for.

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Speaker 1: Bishop, the hatred, the visceral hatred we're seeing online, it's

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Speaker 1: unbelievable to me. I just can't even imagine how you

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Speaker 1: can even go there.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about a husband, a daddy, somebody who was

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Speaker 1: fun It was funny. He cared about truth. He just

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Speaker 1: wanted to debate. He wanted to talk to people. Let's

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Speaker 1: get to the truth. Don't give me your emotional reaction,

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Speaker 1: just give me the truth. And he wanted to honor Jesus.

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Speaker 1: That's what he wanted to do. That's what his life

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Speaker 1: was all about.

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Speaker 4: Bishop, Yeah, his life was all about Jesus and every

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Speaker 4: debate that he had. While others debated with their emotions

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Speaker 4: and opinions, he debated with the truth of the word

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Speaker 4: of God. He responded with the facts, and the enemy

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Speaker 4: wanted to mute his mc but did not realize that

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Speaker 4: you can't mutimite that Christ has elevated his word with

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Speaker 4: and that while this man of God has made impact,

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Speaker 4: the impact has not even been seen yet, simply because

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Speaker 4: there are thousands of disciples of Christ that are now

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Speaker 4: following Jesus and will now be echoing the same sentiments

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Speaker 4: that Charlie Kirk stood for in the coming days. And

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Speaker 4: we're just living in some very dark times. And it

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Speaker 4: was just so sad and surreal to see that his

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Speaker 4: wife and children were there to witness such evil. But

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Speaker 4: this is an opportunity for a God moment of manifest

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Speaker 4: like never before.

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Speaker 2: Bishop.

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Speaker 1: It's like the come let us reason piece is gone.

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Speaker 1: It's like we can't come together, we can't have debt,

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Speaker 1: we can't talk. You know what it is, Take you out,

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Speaker 1: that's what we're going to do. We're going to take

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Speaker 1: you out type stuff. Voltaire said. When people believe absurdities, Bishop,

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Speaker 1: they commit atrocities.

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Speaker 2: Is what they do. It's unbelievable to me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's unbelievable just to see the response that

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Speaker 4: people are applauding the evil act of a young man

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Speaker 4: being embolded by Satan to take the life of a

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Speaker 4: faith champion and hero. But that lets us know exactly

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Speaker 4: the hour that we're living in and how dark it is,

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Speaker 4: and how the church just as embolded as the enemy is.

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Speaker 4: Just as the enemy is big with his platform, the

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Speaker 4: Church is going to have to sound off even louder,

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Speaker 4: and our light is going to have to shine brighter,

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Speaker 4: and we're going to have to become convinced that this

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Speaker 4: is not the time to cave in, but this is

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Speaker 4: the time to stand up and stand out.

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Speaker 1: Bishop, talk to us about building courage in this kind.

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Speaker 2: Of a world.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Charlie Kirk's death brought grief and joy. The grief

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Speaker 4: was a great man that we have stood in rooms

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Speaker 4: with has now been taken from us. But the joy

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Speaker 4: that it brought was the opportunity now that it has

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Speaker 4: given the church to realize that God is in control.

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Speaker 4: We're on one of the greatest platforms that God can

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Speaker 4: ever give us that in this dark hour, it's time

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Speaker 4: for the church to shape the moral fiber. Just stand

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Speaker 4: and proclaim a truth that transcends time, and to realize

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Speaker 4: that there's a price you're going to pay that when

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Speaker 4: you deny yourself and take up your cross. There is

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Speaker 4: nothing joyful about a cross. So in following Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 4: it will cost you something. It cost me a congregation.

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, I have gained

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Speaker 4: an influence that impacts not only our nation, but the

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Speaker 4: nations of this world. Because my courage is a sign

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Speaker 4: that when you stand up for God and stand for

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Speaker 4: his truth, God will also stand.

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Speaker 2: Up for you. Bishop.

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Speaker 1: In just a few hours this day, a memorial service

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Speaker 1: for Charlie Kirk is taking place Phoenix, Arizona. His wife Erica,

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Speaker 1: is going to speak. President Donald J. Trump is going

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Speaker 1: to be there and headline along with the Vice President JD.

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Speaker 2: Vance.

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Speaker 1: I think they're expecting a crowd fifty sixty thousand people

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Speaker 1: in attendance. Bishop, Just your thoughts on the nation, your

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Speaker 1: prayer of what might happen. I mean, the world's going

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Speaker 1: to be dialed into this one. And this is a sobering, sobering, sad,

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Speaker 1: stunning moment.

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Speaker 4: I am flying to Phoenix to join our National Faith

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Speaker 4: Advisory Team and other leaders there to stand with Charlie

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Speaker 4: Kirk's family and the nation as we stand and funeralize

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Speaker 4: and celebrate the life of a giant of the faith,

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Speaker 4: a hero of the faith, a modern day martyr that

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Speaker 4: gave his life for the cause of the convictions that

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Speaker 4: he believed in propagating the gospel of Jesus Christ. It

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Speaker 4: is my prayer that his family, Erica and the children

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Speaker 4: be comforted to know that their husbands and fathers living

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Speaker 4: in life is not in vain, but more than all

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Speaker 4: of that, in the comfort of those who grieve. I

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Speaker 4: am praying that Sunday is a day where it has

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Speaker 4: been declared as National Back to Church Sunday, and what

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Speaker 4: better day to have a funeral of a giant that

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Speaker 4: pointed people back to Jesus. And I'm praying that this

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Speaker 4: particular service turns into a global revival that calls everybody

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Speaker 4: in the earth to realize that Jesus Christ is their

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Speaker 4: ownly hope and they must repent and turn to him

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Speaker 4: because our only safety, open peace is found in Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 4: who Charlie Kirk believed in and died for.

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Speaker 1: You know, through the years Bishop, We've often heard that

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Speaker 1: the blood of the martyrs.

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Speaker 2: Is the seat of the Church.

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Speaker 1: Yes, a lot of people are talking about Charlie being

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Speaker 1: a martyr. He was assassinated, He he represents something. I

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Speaker 1: know this to today's generations. There's a stirring going on, Bishop,

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Speaker 1: and just what's your prayer, what's your earnest cry to

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Speaker 1: the Lord in this final moment.

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Speaker 4: It is my earnest to the Lord that the generation

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Speaker 4: that Charlie impacted, this younger generation, will be the very

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Speaker 4: ones on the front line of this end time revival

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Speaker 4: that's taking place. This great awakening is going to be

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Speaker 4: led by high school student, college students, middle school students

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Speaker 4: that realize that their life has been given to them

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Speaker 4: by Jesus and they're to commit all of their life

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Speaker 4: to the Lord Jesus Christ and standing on his principles,

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Speaker 4: his truth, and his morals. And I believe that that's

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Speaker 4: the hope for America, that's the hope for the nations

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Speaker 4: of this world when this generation that Charlie Kirk in

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Speaker 4: power now rises up and begin to become the voices

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Speaker 4: of reason and evangelism around the world. And I'm praying

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Speaker 4: for that, and it's happening now, and I believe that

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Speaker 4: after Sunday is going to rise at even a greater level.

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Speaker 1: Bishop Calvin Colberts, thank you for joining me. Coming up next.

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Speaker 1: he serves as president of American Values, an educational nonprofit

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Speaker 1: organization out of Washington, DC. He's also senior vice president

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Speaker 1: of public Policy for the Doctor James Dobson Family Institute.

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Speaker 2: Gary, welcome back, Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 7: Thank you Tim. It's good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Gary.

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Speaker 1: In a few hours, the world is going to turn

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Speaker 1: its attention to Phoenix, Arizona, the memorial service for our

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Speaker 1: friend Charlie Kirk and Erica Kirk, along with President Donald J.

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Speaker 1: Trump and Vice President JD. Vance are going to be

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Speaker 1: headlining the event.

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Speaker 2: A lot of.

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Speaker 1: Dignitaries from all over the country.

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Speaker 2: We'll be there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. I just I'm just wondering your sentiments.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling about this particular moment right now?

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Speaker 7: Well, Tim, I'm still I'm still sad that such a

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Speaker 7: good man was struck down in such a violent act.

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Speaker 7: And and I confess I'm angry. I'm angry not only

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Speaker 7: by the hate filled act that took place, but the

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Speaker 7: unbelievable reactions we saw to the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 7: This is disgusting, unacceptable of vile comments by people living

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Speaker 7: right next door to us in the United States of America.

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Speaker 7: There are almost no words. And I'm not an individual

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Speaker 7: that is usually at a loss for words. I see

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Speaker 7: hope in this because I'm running into a lot of people,

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Speaker 7: not all of them people that have been engaged in

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Speaker 7: the great public debate taking place in our country, who

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Speaker 7: have suddenly had a light bulb go on and say,

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Speaker 7: wait a minute, this is not acceptable. And some of

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Speaker 7: these people, we can see them online are actually people

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Speaker 7: that are saying, I've been a Democrat or a self

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Speaker 7: identified liberal all my life. I'm done. I'm done. Nobody

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Speaker 7: can justify this, and yet we have leading media personalities,

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Speaker 7: leading Democrat officeholders that are trying to justify it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty sick stuff. Gary.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm sitting here thinking about a young widow

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Speaker 1: mom taking the stage, taking the microphone before the world,

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Speaker 1: especially in these fresh hours after all this has happened,

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Speaker 1: and only God.

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Speaker 2: Could give her the strength to do that.

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Speaker 1: Gary, she has got some resolve when she addressed the nation,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I think she shocked the nation with

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Speaker 1: her spirit of resolve. And I love the honor that

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Speaker 1: she gave to her husband, Charlie, and man, we need

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Speaker 1: to pray for her earnestly. But your reflections on her

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Speaker 1: in this hour.

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Speaker 7: You know, Tim, I love to give history analogies when

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Speaker 7: something happens, it sort of gives people a context to

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Speaker 7: put something in. I cannot find an historical analogy to

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Speaker 7: that beyond courageous speech that Charlie's wife gave. That that

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Speaker 7: Erica gave it was unbelievable, and look we saw in

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Speaker 7: her remarks obviously her Christian faith, her love for her husband,

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Speaker 7: her love for our country. But I'll tell you we

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Speaker 7: also saw a courage that we often sadly don't see today.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I don't want to, I don't want in

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Speaker 7: any way to misinterpret what she said. But while there

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Speaker 7: was a lot of love in her remarks, it was

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Speaker 7: also a battle crime. That very dramatic moment when she says,

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Speaker 7: you know, for those who thought they would silence my husband,

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Speaker 7: you don't know what you've done, you don't know what's

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Speaker 7: coming at you. We will never leave this battle. And

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Speaker 7: I'm imagining when those words were spoke that there were people,

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Speaker 7: young Americans all over the country particularly, who were being

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Speaker 7: inspired to get into the arena. And I think the

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Speaker 7: ramifications of all this We're only going to be able

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Speaker 7: to figure it out over the passage of time, but

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Speaker 7: the early indications are this is an important rubicon moment

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Speaker 7: in the history of the American Republic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Gary, the Charlie Kirk, I knew, Yeah, he's a patriot,

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Speaker 1: he was on mission.

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Speaker 2: He had a work ethic that was incredible.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, he was fun he was funny,

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Speaker 1: He loved Erica, he loved his children, He genuinely cared

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Speaker 1: about people. He cared about the younger generation. He wanted

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Speaker 1: them and he debated for one reason. He wanted to

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Speaker 1: get the truth. He believed the free speech was the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to do that very thing we needed that, you know,

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Speaker 1: shutting someone down or silencing them takes away all those rights. Gary,

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Speaker 1: in the midst of it, I'm just thinking about this

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Speaker 1: visceral hatred, this insanity that we've been seeing up online.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it interesting that this radicalized left crazy stuff. They're

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Speaker 1: going out and destroying memorials and stuff of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to put words to that stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's garbage.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, Tim, I'm old enough to remember when

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Speaker 7: Martin Luther King was assassinated and such a giant of

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Speaker 7: a man, a pastor by the way, that tends to

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Speaker 7: be forgotten when he's talked about today. And there it

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Speaker 7: was a racist that killed him, and there were racists

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Speaker 7: that celebrated the assassination, and almost everybody in the country

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Speaker 7: could immediately look at that and say, man, that's evil.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 7: I didn't always agree with Martin Luther King, somebody might say,

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Speaker 7: but to celebrate his murder, everybody knew the popular culture knew,

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Speaker 7: every newsman knew, every school teacher knew that was wrong,

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Speaker 7: that was evil, that should never happen. And yet it's

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Speaker 7: happening now. And the same people that hated Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 7: are right now giving excuses for the people engaging in

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Speaker 7: this raw hatred, attacking vigils, attacking anybody that speaks up

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Speaker 7: for him, and saying somehow he deserved it, and even

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Speaker 7: wishing a similar fate on his wife and children. If

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Speaker 7: we can't find the voice to stand up against this,

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Speaker 7: if the leaders of any political party right or left

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Speaker 7: can't find their voice on this, then they are no

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Speaker 7: longer or no longer should be considered part of the

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Speaker 7: American family. They are outside of this nation's accepted debate

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Speaker 7: and conduct. And yet there are powerful politicians that wouldn't

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Speaker 7: even go to a vigil on Capitol Hill, just a

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Speaker 7: moment to get together and.

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Speaker 2: Pray for Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 7: Only six Democrats went to that meeting.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Jerry Folwell used to give a quote, nothing of

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Speaker 1: eternal significance happens apart from prayer and little prayer, little power,

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Speaker 1: more prayer, more power, Ian Bound said, much prayer, much power.

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Speaker 1: Maybe this America Praise initiative could be a fire that helps, really,

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Speaker 1: I mean explode the spiritual revival that we're seeing. I

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Speaker 1: think today's generations are going to explode with that kind

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Speaker 1: of holy revival. That's our prayer. Gary just closing thoughts

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Speaker 1: on as again, we all turn our attention to the

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Speaker 1: Memorial Service today and we pray earnestly that God would

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Speaker 1: move in our midst, moving our nation, move around the

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Speaker 1: world for his glory.

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Speaker 7: Yes, well, we certainly should be praying right now that

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Speaker 7: that that that event will be safe and free of

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Speaker 7: this of these evil forces that we see. I would

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Speaker 7: I want to say one word to those that are

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Speaker 7: saying we need to talk more, that that's how we'll

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Speaker 7: avoid all this he was talking when they murder him.

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Speaker 7: I hear these voices that say we have to find

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Speaker 7: common ground. You know, you can disagree on taxes and

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Speaker 7: find common ground a little bit this way or that way.

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Speaker 7: The size of government, even that's a big issue. We

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Speaker 7: can find some common ground eventually on something like that.

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Speaker 7: How do you find common ground on the things that

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Speaker 7: Charlie Kirk was most known for, that our livery comes

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Speaker 7: from God, not from government, that parents have their rights

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Speaker 7: and responsibilities to raise their children, not the liberal teacher

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Speaker 7: unions and left wing teachers. There's a whole list of

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Speaker 7: things that there is no common ground on. And here's

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Speaker 7: the most uncomfortable thing that we've got to process. Somebody's

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Speaker 7: going to win. Somebody will win, and somebody will lose,

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Speaker 7: and the winner will get our children and the future

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Speaker 7: of our country. It is imperative that those of us

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Speaker 7: that believe in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and

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Speaker 7: believe in this great country has been one nation under God,

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Speaker 7: we must win this struggle.

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Speaker 2: Gary Bauer, thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 5: For more encouragement and to stay connected. Follow doctor Tim

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Speaker 5: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram and x.

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Speaker 2: We love being a part of your life and closing.

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Speaker 1: These are unprecedented times, They're unbelievable, really difficult times. But

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Speaker 1: I know this God, he's in control and he's at work.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're pressing close to him in his heart.

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Speaker 1: Know that God loves you. That's the message of Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 1: and that he wants to be in your life. Our hope,

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Speaker 1: our strength comes from the Lord.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: Here's an encouraging verse to hold on to this week

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Speaker 1: from the Bible. Psalm thirty four, verses eighteen and nineteen.

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Speaker 1: The Lord is nigh unto them who are a broken heart,

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Speaker 1: and he save us such as be of a contrite spirit.

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Speaker 1: Many are the afflictions of the righteous, but the Lord

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Speaker 1: delivers them out of them all. Let's stay anchored right there.

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Speaker 1: I hope you know too that you can look to

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Speaker 1: God for wisdom and direction in your everyday life. Let

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Speaker 1: me say this, I've learned as a professional counselor that

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Speaker 1: it's normal to have concern, fear, worry, especially when life's

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Speaker 1: not the way it's supposed to be. But I've also

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Speaker 1: learned through the years that if you're not careful, can

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Speaker 1: begin to consume you. Control, you easy, loose perspective. For some,

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Speaker 1: they feel like they've lost hope. It can get so

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Speaker 1: dark for some that they would feel like life would

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Speaker 1: be better off without them. Say this every week, you

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Speaker 1: don't have to live like that. Simply taking a step

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Speaker 1: reaching out for help. It's often the gateway to a

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Speaker 1: new day or a new you. And if you or

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Speaker 1: someone you love is struggling, I hope you'll do that

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Speaker 1: reach out for help. There are wonderful counselors and pastors

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Speaker 1: the answers you're looking for, and also have wonderful resources

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Speaker 1: dot com. Christiancare connect dot com. If you don't have

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Speaker 1: a personal relationship with God, you can do that right

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Speaker 1: now by asking Him to come into your life. Ask

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Speaker 1: him to forgive you of your sins and to be

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Speaker 1: your lord and savior, simply praying a prayer from your

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Speaker 1: heart to God's heart like Lord Jesus, you can pray

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Speaker 1: this right now. I need you. I know I'm a sinner.

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Speaker 1: I believe you die for my sins. I turn from

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Speaker 1: them and invite you to come into my heart to

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Speaker 1: as my Lord and savior. Thank you for loving me,

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Speaker 1: for giving again your life for me, the gift of

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Speaker 1: grace and the gift of eternal life. I pray all

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Speaker 1: this in Jesus' name.

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Speaker 2: Amen.

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Speaker 1: You know to buy Bible says in John three point

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Speaker 1: sixteen for God so to love the world that He

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Speaker 1: gave has only begotten son, that whosoever believes in him

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Speaker 1: should not perish, but have everlasting life. And in Romans

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Speaker 1: chapter ten, verse nine, it says this, if you confess

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Speaker 1: with your mouth that Jesus' Lord, and you believe in

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Speaker 1: your heart that God raised him from the dead, the

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Speaker 1: Bible says you will be saved. The best thing you

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Speaker 1: can do right now is go tell someone of your

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Speaker 1: decision and live for God for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 1: He'll give you the strength to do it. I believe

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Speaker 1: that if you're struggling with hopelessness, I hope you'll pick

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Speaker 1: up the phone right now and talk with someone. Call

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Speaker 1: the suicide hotline the number nine eight eight. That's nine

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Speaker 1: eight eight, the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline. Hey, before we go,

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Speaker 1: maybe God's gifted you with the heart to help other people.

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Speaker 1: I'm doctor Tim Clinton. As always, thanks for watching. See

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Speaker 1: you next week right here on Sunday, The Road Forward

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Speaker 2: Heed by God Come