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Speaker 1: Get Up, Get Up?

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Speaker 2: What is up? Mets fans?

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to another episode of the Mets Up Podcast,

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Speaker 3: Episode number one forty nine. This is the official podcast

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Speaker 3: of the New York METSA you haven't thrown that in there,

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Speaker 3: I feel like recently, but yeah, I mean, we're with

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Speaker 3: the Mets. We're the official one. Pretty cool stuff. We've

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Speaker 3: got a lot to talk about in this episode. Of course,

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Speaker 3: it's the off season, so you know, we're gonna talk

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Speaker 3: about some rumors. You know, we're gonna talk about some

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Speaker 3: players that we like, some guys that we want to

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Speaker 3: bring back to this team.

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Speaker 2: You know, the drill. I mean, it's pretty simple.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be talking a lot about baseball and the

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Speaker 3: off season on this episode. If you guys do like

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Speaker 2: And without further ado, James, Hey doing man, I haven't

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen you in a while.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I feel like relative to our friendship, we actually

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Speaker 4: haven't seen each other a while. It's been basically a

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Speaker 4: full week. Yeah, usually at least one per weekend.

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Speaker 3: Especially when the baseball season was really kicking like this was.

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Speaker 3: This past week felt like one of the first full

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Speaker 3: weeks where there was just nothing going on after you know,

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Speaker 3: four o'clock, I was like, what do I do with

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Speaker 3: my time? I've been watching a lot of basketball. Anytime

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Speaker 3: you're watching NBAS, you know.

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Speaker 2: You got your full time on your hands. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It was also the first week after daylight savings and

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Speaker 4: that actually got cold in New York, so it was

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Speaker 4: like after five o'clock, it's a killer to hang out

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Speaker 4: with your friends.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely awful, like waking up and then having like three

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Speaker 3: hours of sunlight depending on what time I wake up,

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Speaker 3: and then just if I wake up at noon, I

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Speaker 3: between the.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard. It's like we were trying to hang

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Speaker 4: out for football on Sunday and it was like noon

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Speaker 4: and it was cold, and I was like no, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I think, I think we'll just stay

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Speaker 2: at home and I'll see you when I see you.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of how this week's been. There has been

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Speaker 3: a lot going on though in the baseball world. I

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Speaker 3: think for some housekeeping stuff. Francisco Lindor won the Marvin

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Speaker 3: Miller Man of the Year award, right, is that the

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Speaker 3: proper pronounce or title, which is great. We know Lindor

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Speaker 3: does a lot of you know, off the field stuff,

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Speaker 3: a lot of charity work, and he's the man.

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Speaker 2: We love Francisco Lindor on and off the field.

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Speaker 3: And then we got we got another Mets award winner here,

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Speaker 3: Buck show Walter National League Manager of the Year, which

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Speaker 3: I think was kind of predictable, right, I mean, based

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Speaker 3: at least.

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Speaker 4: I think just based on how much how well the

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Speaker 4: just how much baseball loves Buck show Walter how how

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Speaker 4: much of a landing round him and this Mets team

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Speaker 4: was during the season. I'd say a lot of the

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Speaker 4: saw coming. It's probably it's probably fair bittersweet to use

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Speaker 4: one of the better words one of my favorite wards

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Speaker 4: in this podcast to talk about Buck that way, But

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Speaker 4: I mean, he did a very good job during the season.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of it too, is a lot

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Speaker 3: I think Rob Thompson didn't even finish in the top three,

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Speaker 3: which kind of felt a little bit weird. But out

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Speaker 3: of all the teams that made the playoffs, the Mets

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Speaker 3: were the one that probably had the worst twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: So it seemed like the biggest turnaround as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the most relative overachiever, which is usually how they

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Speaker 2: Definitely, but good for Buck deserved.

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Speaker 3: It had a good season for the Mets in the

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Speaker 3: moving on past the twenty twenty two season. I don't

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Speaker 3: Some things to talk about, though, is we got to

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Speaker 3: player returning, Carlos Carrasco.

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Speaker 2: Cookie, Carrasco is back.

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Speaker 3: The Mets picked up his option, which is good because

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Speaker 3: we need some starting pitching in this rotation badly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Carrasco decision, I think has to be viewed

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Speaker 4: in terms of everything else that happened the last week

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Speaker 4: picked up for about fifteen million dollars, the metsa that

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Speaker 4: in the same moment did not extend tiwe Walker a

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Speaker 4: qualifying offer with for twenty million dollars. So it's a

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Speaker 4: different costs there, a different skill, difference in skill, different

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Speaker 4: it's worthwhile for Mark and I especially, they have a

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Speaker 4: conversation now about the difference of those two pictures, maybe

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Speaker 4: of what those two could bring to the team next year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again, can't stress enough we don't actually know why.

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Speaker 3: This is just us talking about it. We are the

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Speaker 3: official podcast, but we know nothing. We really know nothing

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day. Besides, you know what

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Speaker 3: our personal opinions are, and I don't know. To me,

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Speaker 3: it seems like I think I think the five million

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Speaker 3: the Steve Cohen tax threshold. Essentially you have to save

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Speaker 3: last year, just signed for three for thirty nine, right,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I also think the big difference is that

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Speaker 4: the qualifying off of the Taiwan Walker meant that you

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Speaker 4: and we mentioned last episode that the Mets had lost

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Speaker 4: from the major league team last year. It was almost

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Speaker 4: the similar amount of money more. Of course, there was

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Speaker 4: make a lot of sense, but in terms of skill

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Speaker 4: But I think when you consider the guarantee of the

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Speaker 4: makes some more sense.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, we know Mets Twitter is a little

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, I think if you look at

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Speaker 3: But I also think there's a world where Taiwan is

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Speaker 3: welcome back. It's just not on the qualifying offer just

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Speaker 3: think it means that there's no chance that Taiwan doesn't

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's not out of play. Toma Walker

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Speaker 4: very clearly had the best season of his career last

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Speaker 4: it led to a very, very very successful season for him,

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Speaker 4: where threw one hundred and sixty innings. He won twelve

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Speaker 4: games three to five VRA three six FIP like Taiwand's

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Speaker 4: And that's why I do think that even if they

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Speaker 4: think that was the big if I was the one

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Speaker 4: that qualifying offer. It kind of superseded the value of

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Speaker 4: opting for car Carrasco makes more sense.

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Speaker 3: And I think we should also talk about this pick

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Speaker 3: I think Taiwan, if he does sign with a different team,

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Speaker 3: you extend the qualifying offer, I think people always think

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Speaker 3: the pick at times also really isn't as valuable as

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Speaker 3: think it came down to like risk value here with

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Speaker 4: And probably at the end of the day, the fact

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Speaker 2: That's fair, That's fair.

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Speaker 3: That's my number one choice, Brandon. I've I've said it

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Speaker 4: defensive center field. I think he's actually realistic. I don't

437
00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,560
Speaker 4: think it's likely at all, just because teams hold on

438
00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,840
Speaker 4: to their center fielders like grim death, because they know

439
00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,680
Speaker 4: how hard is to get another one. If there's anybody

440
00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,240
Speaker 4: that could be available in trades, probably Brian Reynolds and

441
00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,240
Speaker 4: Lane Thomas. But Reynolds is gonna cost a lot, and

442
00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,280
Speaker 4: Lane Thomas I just I just think the Nationals are

443
00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,879
Speaker 4: probably like, why don't we see what we have instead

444
00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,040
Speaker 4: of acquiring a nineteen year.

445
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Speaker 2: Old Lane Thomas has been your that's been your boy

446
00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,280
Speaker 2: for a while now.

447
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Speaker 4: And he's just a quality ballplayer. He's the kind of

448
00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,680
Speaker 4: guy you put in the team and the machine keeps moving.

449
00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,080
Speaker 2: Did you see the quality ballplayer the Mets picked up today.

450
00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:32,640
Speaker 4: Though I did.

451
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Speaker 2: Mister Riddings very excited about Stephen Ridings.

452
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Speaker 3: Now, you guys might remember he came up with the

453
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Speaker 3: Yankees in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty one, I believe,

454
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Speaker 3: and I think he threw like five innings and he's

455
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Speaker 3: an electric factory. I can't even believe this is gonna,

456
00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,879
Speaker 3: like probably be a little hyperbole, a little over exact

457
00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,160
Speaker 3: or over playing it, But I can't believe the Met's

458
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Speaker 3: got Stephen Ridings, Like this guy has a lie, he's

459
00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,040
Speaker 3: performed well.

460
00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,320
Speaker 2: It seems like too good to be true.

461
00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,680
Speaker 4: I think that I don't know. I just think there's

462
00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,320
Speaker 4: such a fruitful reliever market every single offseason that a

463
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,640
Speaker 4: lot of these guys with this insane stuff just kind

464
00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,639
Speaker 4: of slipped through the cracks because every team is up

465
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Speaker 4: against the crunch and their forty man roster, every team

466
00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,480
Speaker 4: is up against the crush of the twenty six man roster,

467
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Speaker 4: and teams are up against the crush in the luxury attack.

468
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Speaker 4: So a guy like Riding can just kind of slip

469
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Speaker 4: through and you can sign him for a very very medium,

470
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Speaker 4: minimal deal. And you know what he threw. He's six

471
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Speaker 4: eight and he throws one hundred miles an hour, Like

472
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:31,920
Speaker 4: what else do you really need to say?

473
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

474
00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:32,439
Speaker 5: No?

475
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,240
Speaker 3: And I think he has like a wipeout, wipeout second

476
00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:35,840
Speaker 3: pitch as well.

477
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Speaker 2: I don't remember whether.

478
00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,600
Speaker 3: It's a if it's a sweeper esque or whatnot, but

479
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,400
Speaker 3: I believe he's got some wipeout stuff. So I'm I'm

480
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,560
Speaker 3: excited as excited as you can get about a waiver

481
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,560
Speaker 3: wire pickup in on November fifteenth. But Stephen Ridings that

482
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 3: made me happy, especially because I got some Yankee fan

483
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 3: friends were like, they were big Stephen Riding's guy.

484
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,159
Speaker 2: They're like, what happened? He's got something's got me wrong?

485
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:57,919
Speaker 2: Why we let him go?

486
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Speaker 4: He's too good. It's also easy for getting ou like

487
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 4: that who came from Haverford College. Like no, no, absolutely,

488
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,399
Speaker 4: no hype whatsoever. And he it's a it's a slider.

489
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 4: The other pitch is a slyther, and it is regarded

490
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,879
Speaker 4: as seemingly pretty pretty pretty well. But that fastball is

491
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 4: the one. It's the market pitch. The only thing is

492
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 4: that it isn't like elite in terms of his physics,

493
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,439
Speaker 4: his moving profile. It is much more of a of

494
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,199
Speaker 4: a riot, of a of a slyder instead of a riser.

495
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 4: Not saying it slides, but just there's moreholes not to

496
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Speaker 4: movement and upward movement.

497
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Speaker 2: Run even is what you need to say.

498
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Speaker 4: Ye, it runs. Yeah, sorry, thank you for fixing my

499
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,679
Speaker 4: words there. But he's six eight and he throws it

500
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 4: really hard. So it's great to have him in because

501
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 4: we need relievers so bad.

502
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you You've definitely done some were deep

503
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 3: diving because you are the reliever, whisper, pitcher whisper, however

504
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Speaker 3: you want to phrase it. I I can't wait to

505
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Speaker 3: hear some of the names, because the Mets definitely have

506
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 3: some spots that he'd be filled in the bullpen. Seth

507
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 3: Lugo is a free agent, Trevor May is a free agent?

508
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 5: Who else?

509
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 2: Adam Outovino is a free agent? Right now? Am I

510
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 2: forgetting anybody? Else?

511
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 4: It was Edmard Diaz, but not anymore.

512
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's definitely some arms that need to be replaced.

513
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,880
Speaker 3: We did bring in Tyler's Tyler Salato.

514
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 4: I think Tyler Salsay though.

515
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, from the Blue Jays left handed reliever. But

516
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 3: what about some of the guys on the free agent

517
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 3: market that you like?

518
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 4: I feel like this is gonna become something of like

519
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 4: a weekly segment in this show. It's like James breaks

520
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,399
Speaker 4: down obscure free agents.

521
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 2: Well, that's like what you did in your articles too

522
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 2: when you're writing them at first, right.

523
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Speaker 4: And I'm very I'm very happy to hold, you know,

524
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Speaker 4: to hold that crown, but I want to I want

525
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 4: to just very quickly, very briefly deep dive in a

526
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 4: four free agents who are gonna cost basically nothing who.

527
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 4: I think that as the Mets are going about this

528
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 4: free agent process, it seems like it's very clear that

529
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Speaker 4: they're first of all, they definitely want to resign brand

530
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 4: Nemo and Jacob Grom. They've made that abundantly clear to

531
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 4: the media outwardly. I also want to make abundantly clear

532
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 4: the market. I know nothing about the Mets free agent process.

533
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 4: We are we we while we're associated with the team,

534
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 4: we are fans first and fan second and absolutely fans third.

535
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 4: That is our affiliation right there, one hundred percent. And

536
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,679
Speaker 4: then afterwards that that you guys know. But it just

537
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 4: seems like, based on the way this market is developing

538
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 4: and how many innings the Mets need, that it's Brandon Demo,

539
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 4: it's Jacob de Garm, it's front like starting pitching, and

540
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 4: then maybe it's it's big fish hunting, it's filling out

541
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 4: the bench, and then we're gonna figure out the relievers afterwards.

542
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 3: Right Yeah, definitely, I think because of like you said,

543
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 3: the reliever market relatively being so robust and just being

544
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 3: able to essentially make these guys out of thin air,

545
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 3: which is what you're gonna talk about, is these guys.

546
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 3: In a way, there's no reason to prioritize going after

547
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 3: guys like we saw Robert Suarez sign for fifty million

548
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 3: or whatever it was and Rafael Montero.

549
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 4: That was gonna be my next point that it seems

550
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,719
Speaker 4: like the reliever market this year is a little bit

551
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 4: heightened just because they've have been the first guys to sign.

552
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 4: Between Diaz, Montero and Suarez, there's been a massive, massive

553
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 4: amount of guaranteed money, almost all the guaranteed money until

554
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 4: today Tuesday Warn't recording was given out two relief pitchers, So.

555
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Speaker 2: I think Anthon Rizzo coming back to the Yankee too.

556
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 4: Well, that happened today and Tuesday, which is and the

557
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 4: Tyler Anderson deal. Those are the first two deals I

558
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 4: really kicked out of the market here. But four relievers

559
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 4: I'm going to go into right now, very briefly by

560
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 4: the minute on each just guys who, for no reason whatsoever,

561
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 4: I really think they have a has to be very

562
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 4: successful in their career future career. The first one is

563
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 4: going to be Kyle Crik. Kyle Krik is a guy

564
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 4: who was originally a part of I believe the Joe

565
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 4: Musgrove trade between the Astros and the Pirates way back when.

566
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Speaker 3: That sounds right, Okay, I was gonna say he wasn't

567
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Speaker 3: with him or Cole. Let me look, I'm looking it

568
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 3: up real quick. He was a part of the No

569
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Speaker 3: He was a part of the Brian Reynolds Andrew McCutchen trade.

570
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 4: Interesting. Wow, yeah, I'm confusing my Pirates trade. It's shame

571
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 4: on me. But he's had some major, major, major injuries

572
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 4: over the last few years. He had a shoulder, he

573
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 4: had an elbow, he had a latch, just all the

574
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 4: worst possible injuries you want to see for a pitcher

575
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 4: Kyle Krek has had over the last three years, which

576
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 4: is a shame because he had a lot of potential

577
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 4: as a prospect. But despite all of the hardships, Kyle

578
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 4: Creek as he was as a young player, still has

579
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 4: an absolutely unbelievable slider. It miss his tons of bats.

580
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 4: He throws it harder than average. It is still a

581
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 4: wipeout pitch. It was last year and it will be

582
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 4: in the future. He also very importantly developed a sinker

583
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 4: last year that kind of superseded a fastball that has

584
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 4: consistently been below average. Those two pitches together could make

585
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 4: him once again above average reliever. He will be basically

586
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 4: free and a front project and the exact same milk.

587
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 4: A guy who I've talked about with Mark probably years ago.

588
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 4: I even know if you're remembers Jarrell Cotton.

589
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 3: I will never forget Jarell Cotton, because I believe he's

590
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 3: once like an incredibly unique name, and I feel like

591
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 3: every single year that at least I've been friends with you,

592
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 3: I've heard something about Jarell Cotton, and I've known about

593
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 3: him from like playing them will be the show. He

594
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 3: always had like a potential as a free agent and

595
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 3: stuff like that. So I gotta pick up Jarrell Cotton

596
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 3: and trade him.

597
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

598
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 4: It's former huge prospect. I believe he went to TCU,

599
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 4: but actually could be wrong about that. But he was

600
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 4: a first round pick. He had very bad injuries. He

601
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 4: then pitched in twenty eighteen, nineteen or twenty. He came

602
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty one as a relief pitcher, and

603
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 4: then the Giants actually picked him up in the last

604
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 4: two months of the past season and really really we

605
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 4: reworked his repertoire in a way that made him seem

606
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 4: like he could be a plus reliever in the future.

607
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 4: He threw significantly less fastballs, some less sly. There's many

608
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 4: many more changeups, which has always always been as outpitch.

609
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 4: That pitch was a sixty grade on than so in

610
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 4: terms of the scathing grade for pitchers, you go from

611
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 4: twenty to eighty. Fifty is average, sixty is plus seventy.

612
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 4: You never see av Is Wander Franco's hit grade. Just

613
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 4: to give people a sense of where these prospects scathing

614
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 4: grades come from. Through many more of those changeups and

615
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 4: some more curve balls, a pitch that has been developed

616
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 4: him more recently. Those two pitches both have a lead

617
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 4: movement profiles. His fastball is not that good, but that

618
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 4: kind of would make sense after all the massive injuries

619
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 4: he had, losing all velocity he's lost slyder is good.

620
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 4: The fact that he is throwing four pitches as a reliever,

621
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Speaker 4: I think is very very important. That's just an amazing

622
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 4: way to keep hiters off balance. And the fact that

623
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Speaker 4: a team like the Giants, while they took a flyer

624
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 4: in him, they also did release him. So it probably

625
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 4: does give us a sense that maybe his potential is

626
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 4: a little bit limited. I think that just having that

627
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 4: many pitches, having the pedigree he has, he's someone's very interesting,

628
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 4: very very similar transition again, Jimmy Nelson. I'm sure everyone

629
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Speaker 4: remembers Jimmy Nelson for his very fantastic season twenty eighteen

630
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 4: with the Brewers. Maybe that's just me. I'm being top

631
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 4: ten to sy Young clothing.

632
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Speaker 2: I have a weird personal story with Jimmy Nelson.

633
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 3: So he was like big into gaming when he ended

634
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 3: up getting that injury after diving back to first base

635
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 3: when he was taking a lead, and he started streaming

636
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: a lot of Wild be The Show, so he became

637
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: friendly with a lot of the guys in the Wild

638
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: the Show community. At spring training the next year, like

639
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 3: one of my friends, Healey, who you've met, shout out

640
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 3: my boy. Heally was like, we gotta go see Jimmy.

641
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 3: We gotta go see Jimmy. He's making his first appearance

642
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: since he got the injury.

643
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. Went to go see him. Jimmy said.

644
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 2: It was very nice of him. So he's a nice guy,

645
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 2: nice gentleman.

646
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 4: Oh, he seems like a very nice guy. And he

647
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 4: did miss basically three entire years nineteen twenty and twenty. No,

648
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 4: he maybe had the good year. It's seventeen eighteen.

649
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: Eighteen, eighteen, twenty twenty two. That's the years he's missed.

650
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 4: Okay, there you go. Shoulder injuries, back injuries. He came

651
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 4: back and he was incredible in twenty twenty one. I

652
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 4: probably annoyed the crap out of the Mark because I

653
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Speaker 4: talked about him add nauseum. He had thirty eight percent

654
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 4: strikeker I rained thirty innings. He had a high walk rate,

655
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 4: it was eleven percent. But he just he just had

656
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 4: this unbelievable curve ball with a high rising fastball and

657
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 4: a very good slider, a little bit that sweeper we

658
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 4: talked about the last episode. The Dodgers were teaching their pitchers,

659
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 4: and then Tommy John happened the middle of that season,

660
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 4: completely derails his breakout. But he's on the road back

661
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 4: right now. He's a current free agent. The Dodgers did

662
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 4: decline his option after holding on to him last year,

663
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 4: which does, again, like Drell kay and make me think

664
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 4: that maybe it is cooked. Maybe it's cooked, but I

665
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 4: don't know. I still think there's probably a little bit

666
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 4: of life in that arm and the way he pitched

667
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty one was just so it gives me

668
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 4: a lot of hope for him. Nearly a forty percent

669
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 4: striker rate is near the top of the league like

670
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 4: that is, that would be top ten among relievers any

671
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 4: single year in Major League Baseball, And the way he's

672
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 4: pitching that year makes me can get back to there.

673
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 3: And we're not trying to find, you know, the next

674
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 3: Edwin Diaz. We're trying to find little pieces to sprinkle in.

675
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 4: These are guys who are going to be free, who

676
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 4: probably will only have to get invitations to spring tran

677
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 4: who could actually become plus during the season. The last

678
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 4: guy actually is someone who's actually real. He's not coming

679
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 4: off a major debilitating injury. He's not being released. It's

680
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 4: Zach Lttel, who comes from the San Francisco Giants. He

681
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 4: this year pitched many innings of the Giants. They used

682
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 4: him a lot in a bulk roll, which I don't

683
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 4: think really soothed the way he's ever pitched his career.

684
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 4: He has always been a reliever, but he was a

685
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 4: consistently a guy who either started games ahead of openers

686
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 4: or would come in after an opener and just pitched

687
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 4: like two two and a half inks for no reason whatsoever.

688
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 4: He has a very very very very good slider and

689
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 4: a fantastic splither that he has just picked up. In

690
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 4: the last year and a half with the Giants, he

691
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 4: going through about five percent of the time in twenty

692
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 4: twenty one. That went up to almost fifteen percent of

693
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 4: the time twenty twenty two. The pitch was the lead

694
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 4: terms of movement in elite terms of with for eight

695
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 4: and I think those two pitches to learned with a

696
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 4: fastball that, while not great, is about average. Zach Lttel

697
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 4: is a very underrated relief pitcher in this market who

698
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 4: will not be signing very much money. I'd be shocked

699
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 4: if he gets a second year in whatever contract he

700
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 4: does sign, who has plenty of potential as a guy

701
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 4: who probably got squeezed out of incredibly incredibly competitive Giants

702
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 4: ballpen rotation and could go to a team that has

703
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 4: a lot of openings like the Mets.

704
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: Dude, was this the Giants and Padre or a Dodgers episode?

705
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: We have those four guys of all cross paths with

706
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 3: Giants and Dodgers at some point in their careers. Which

707
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 3: good organizations I'll say it good organizations.

708
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 4: Especially in terms of pitching development. You'd be hard to

709
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 4: find organizations better if the Guardians, the Rays, the Giants,

710
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 4: the Dodgers, those are the gold standard. And those teams

711
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 4: are gonna have a little bit more compacted rosters than

712
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 4: most other teams in baseball, especially in terms they're pitching.

713
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 4: So if they don't have room for guys, it doesn't

714
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 4: necessarily kill them. It means maybe you should take a

715
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 4: closer look at them.

716
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, like we said, the relief market

717
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: is so interesting because James just gave you four guys

718
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 3: that are gonna be free.

719
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: Invites the spring training type stuff.

720
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: Maybe not you know, Zach would tell, but the other

721
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 3: three And this is how you have to get creative

722
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: with the bullpen.

723
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: You see the Rays do it every single year.

724
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: They just got rid of a bunch of good players

725
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: and good prospects because they didn't want to put them

726
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: on their forty man or keep them on there so

727
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: that they had space. You have to be able to

728
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 3: recycle in these pictures, these relief pitchers and just kind

729
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 3: of plug and play a little bit. And it's about

730
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: having quality arms and guys with plus stuff rather than

731
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: dudes that throw like ninety one and don't have anything.

732
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 4: I'm only gonna Last year signed a four million dollars

733
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 4: one year contract with the Mets and he became free.

734
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 4: One of the most essential believers in the entire league.

735
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 4: Kevin a few years ago was bouncing around as a

736
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 4: reliever for the Braves and the Reds before he's caught

737
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 4: with the Giants and they found a way to fine

738
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 4: tune his repertoire and do it. The best thing about

739
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 4: evaluating pitching is that these guys can reappear as someone

740
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 4: completely new, with a tweak here and a tweak there,

741
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 4: and sometimes it's really not Oh. Adam Alavino also turned

742
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 4: thirty six two days ago, High birthday to Adam Hppy Birthday, Adam.

743
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 4: It's finding pictures is such a unique and fun game.

744
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: It's the kind of it's the thing that drew me

745
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 4: the baseball analysis in the beginning, and just the fact

746
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 4: of how like how much of a meritocracy it is,

747
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 4: where if you find this guy and you find one

748
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 4: thing to change, one thing to adjust, one thing to improve,

749
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 4: you can completely change the outlook and give yourself the

750
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 4: best investment you had in the entire offseason. That's the

751
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 4: most fun of part of that, the most fun part

752
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 4: of the battle that I'm gonna bring you some strange

753
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 4: pictures every single episode.

754
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: That's what you get from us. That's what you get

755
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: from us, especially from James. You're gonna get some weird pictures.

756
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,239
Speaker 3: This guy's been money the last few years. I'm sure

757
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 3: he's gonna hit again this year.

758
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 4: I told Mark about Ranger Suarez in twenty nineteen just

759
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 4: to say it, but the.

760
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: Fars was anybody, Ye, Kendall Graveman was a wild one.

761
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 4: Because he was like debatably, like irrelevant, literally shout out

762
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 4: pictureless because they do a fun thing every year where

763
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 4: they will produce a gift of every single pitch in baseball,

764
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 4: every single pitcher, every single pitch they have. And when

765
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 4: I was first starting out there going through baseball analyzing

766
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 4: for the first time, I was on that staff because

767
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 4: I was like, I want to look at pitchers pitches.

768
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: And when you just look at the pitcher's pitches and

769
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 4: you see how many they have and you see how

770
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: they move, sometimes you're like, holy crap, this guy's actually good.

771
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 4: Like something's just wrong. And that's why we talk about

772
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 4: Vincelaska is in the last episode. A guy like Chad

773
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 4: Coole has never been good. I guarantee you. I guarantee you.

774
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 4: Chad Coole has one year in his career where he's good.

775
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 4: I guarantee it. There's no doubt in my mind. And

776
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 4: that's the most fun part about this game.

777
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

778
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: No, I mean, it's finding the fun guys.

779
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: And then I feel like to kind of wrap up

780
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: the roster talk here too, and something that we prioritized

781
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: a lot last year was filling out this roster twenty

782
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: six men. We need twenty six ball players, guys that

783
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: are gonna make an impact on this team. We applaud

784
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 3: the Giants for, you know, in twenty twenty one for

785
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: how they use their roster and maximized all twenty six spots.

786
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: Everybody was used, and I think that's something that we

787
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: want to see the Mets continue. I think it was

788
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 3: improved upon in twenty twenty two. But it's important to

789
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: have a really strong bench. And right now, I mean,

790
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: what's the bench looking like? We got you or May

791
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: on the bench?

792
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 4: We should yeah, we should talk about this. Fangrafs updated

793
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 4: their roster resource, which is their tool to TELP just

794
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 4: fans who is on each roster and would roll they're

795
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 4: expected to have in terms of fangrafts, internal projections, and

796
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 4: they updated it on Monday, Monday this week, so we

797
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 4: have a sense right now Gyurmey actually Mark is in

798
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 4: the Mets starting lineup because they have Giomey at second,

799
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 4: Jeff McNeil and the outfield Starry Marte and center. So

800
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: as of right now, the Mets current bench and roster

801
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 4: resource get ready for this. It's a four man bench. Okay,

802
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 4: Mets fans are really gonna be excited to hear this one.

803
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 4: James mccannon, Okay, Darren Ruff, Mark Vantos, and Dominic Smith.

804
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: Sounds like a lot of the same players, a lot

805
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: of this.

806
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 4: It sounds like it. It sounds like a spot. Yeah,

807
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 4: it sounds like a spot on this roster that might

808
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 4: need to be upgraded if the Mets want to continue

809
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 4: on their quest for a World Series championship. And definitely

810
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 4: I do think that, especially with the way this roster

811
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 4: is champing up right now, the fact that we already

812
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 4: have two catchers, we have Giorme as the utility backup infield,

813
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 4: or we have Daniel vogelback as was expected to be

814
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 4: probably a part ten DH training, thirty years old for

815
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 4: almost no money whatsoever. It's it's imperative for this Mets

816
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 4: team this offseason to find guys who are going to

817
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 4: be multi what's the word I'm looking for here, multi eligible, multifaceted, multifacted.

818
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: Faceted was the word that came to my head, But

819
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: I didn't know if it was correct, because I don't

820
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: I wasn't quite sure.

821
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, we need to have flexible players.

822
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: I think, yes, not in terms of limberness, but in

823
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 3: terms of position availability or ability to play multiple positions.

824
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 4: I mean, I'd argue in terms of flexibility as well,

825
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 4: like I want the guest to actually do be also flexible.

826
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: Want When I went to Mariners spring training right before Covid,

827
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: I saw each e Ro and he was stretching. I

828
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: kid you not for three hours, That's all he did

829
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: was stretch. And you know what each year Row never

830
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 3: did in his career.

831
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: He never got hurt.

832
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: That guy just stretched and stretched and stretched and stretched,

833
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: and he could touch his toes behind his back. I mean,

834
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 3: he's the most flexible guy I've ever seen out a

835
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 3: baseball field, and he's an incredible shape at like forty

836
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: eight years old or however old he is now. But yeah,

837
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 3: we want some Limbernus on this team as well. But

838
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I'm not saying this player, but just

839
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: to kind of give a maybe more of a scope,

840
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 3: I think like a Jonathan VR esque player.

841
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 4: I thought, really say Joey Wendell, Well, Joey Wendell would

842
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 4: fake great.

843
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Joey Wendell.

844
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 3: I would take any you know, any kind of Joey

845
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 3: wendlle time, even though him and you are may are

846
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: the same.

847
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 4: But I said something funny, Yeah, I think I think

848
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 4: you might see a little bit of what you saw

849
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 4: yourself as a baseball player in Joey Wendell. And that's

850
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:47,439
Speaker 4: why I like him so much.

851
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 5: Oh.

852
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 4: I think he also kind of looked like him.

853
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: I look, no, I don't look like Joey Wendle.

854
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 4: I think he looked like a little bit like Joey Wendell. Same,

855
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 4: the same slender frame, not that tall, no bathing gloves.

856
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 4: I really think that you have a baseball player held

857
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 4: some eerie similarities to mister Wendell.

858
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 3: Shockingly similar similarities. We don't play a position. We just

859
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 3: played all over the place, you know, Joey Wendell caught

860
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: at some point in his career and it was just like,

861
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: this isn't my this is I'm not the best catcher.

862
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: I'm good, but it's not I'm not the best.

863
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 4: I can give you value elsewhere and I didn't. If

864
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 4: he didn't, he would have.

865
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: Yes, one hundred percent. He's scrappy, he's he's gritty. You

866
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: called it, You called it. I see a lot of

867
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: myself with Joey Wendell. That's why I like him.

868
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 4: Fine, you win, but it does play off with that.

869
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 4: We've been calling for this Mets team for years now

870
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 4: where we need a bench. Every team in baseball needs

871
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 4: a bench that's flexible. You need you guys to be

872
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 4: able to do different things because guys need off days.

873
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 4: We saw at the end of the year that it

874
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 4: seemed like this Mets team just it was. It was

875
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 4: a lot. His entire season was a lot. They were

876
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 4: going balls to the wall as long as possible, and

877
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 4: you just like, it's hard to do that as a

878
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 4: human being in any in any profession, any facility, for

879
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 4: that extend of a period of time, every single day,

880
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 4: day after day. For ciscoal Inndoor and p A Lonzo

881
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 4: played one hundred and sixty one games each like not

882
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 4: many players in baseball do that, especially in that year

883
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: over year. You need guys who can do a lot

884
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 4: of different things to spell these guys, give them breaks

885
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 4: and give your manager, the manager the year, the rating

886
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 4: manager of the year, the full time manager of the year,

887
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 4: Bug show Walter opportunities to find find advantages late in games.

888
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 4: And there's plenty of opportunities. And I'm very confident in

889
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 4: the Mets front office and being able to find those

890
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 4: opportunities and find the guys to fill this bench and

891
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 4: make that possible. But we're just stressing as the Mets

892
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 4: currently have a full time first baseman, the full time

893
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 4: dage to maybe not be upset Mets twether if we

894
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 4: miss out on a JD. Martinez, Jose of Bray, you

895
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 4: with Jesse Winker as guys like that become available because

896
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 4: as those guys are one recognizable names, which he knows.

897
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 4: The number one part that Mets Twitter wants a name.

898
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 4: They know a name, they can say, a name they

899
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 4: can talk about in Thanksgiving dinner. Where's there in loop?

900
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: Where's our lefty reliever?

901
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 4: We need air in loop? You need air in Loop.

902
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 4: This Mets team will have gone all the way to

903
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 4: sign Aaron Loop last year. Oh wait, he had the

904
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 4: ra over four like everyone knew he would. But you

905
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 4: have to exhibit a little bit of restraint in seeing

906
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 4: that maybe there are some different types of players as

907
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 4: roster could need speed, defense, athleticism. Also, of course, we

908
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 4: still do need power. I'm not saying we don't need

909
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 4: power this that seem very much need power last year,

910
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 4: but there probably are different avenues to get that and

911
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 4: develop it rather than the guys that we all know.

912
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 3: And I mean like we have Brett Batty too, who's

913
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: gonna be a part of this team as well. You

914
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: would imagine Gantos, Mark Viento's like there's there's there's young

915
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: guys that are gonna step in, Francis guild Rez, a

916
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 3: lot of guys who could fill out this bench too.

917
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,479
Speaker 3: We just we want a lot of good players because

918
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 3: you know, you can never have.

919
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 2: Too many of James good players. Good players, I mean

920
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: never can have too many.

921
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 4: I mean that that's like the trade turnor debate there

922
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 4: were we said last episod there were so many Mets

923
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 4: fans being like, well, why do we need trade turner?

924
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 4: We have Francisco Indoor. We objective, yes again more best

925
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 4: teams of baseball. Don't think about oh this guy plays

926
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 4: this position. No, get another elite player, put them on

927
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 4: the roster, and it'll all work itself out because they're

928
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 4: all baseball players. These guys all want to win so bad.

929
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 4: These guys are so committed to what's going on here

930
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 4: on this team and in this city right now. So

931
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 4: get the guys and we will work it.

932
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: Out one hundred percent, one hundred percent. And uh, I

933
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: don't know, We're we're gonna we got a lot off

934
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: season left.

935
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 2: We got a lot, and we're just gonna keep dropping

936
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 2: some names for you in and out here and there.

937
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: Jem's gonna get the pictures.

938
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna find you some weird hitters to talk about,

939
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: probably for the next episode, because I don't think we

940
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: can divulge too much into the minutia of the best

941
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 3: guys who aren't the stars on this team anymore.

942
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll do it literally.

943
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 4: All off season. I know, I know Vido doesn't want

944
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 4: us to because he wants us to be you don't

945
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 4: mark of the ball, TikToker ball, But but god damn it,

946
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 4: we're gonna, we're gonna spit some baseball.

947
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna talk baseball. That's what we do.

948
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: That's why, that's why the Bets like us, because we

949
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 2: talk about ball.

950
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 4: Talk about ball. I mean, we want to give a

951
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 4: couple of weird ones right now, Like you know what,

952
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 4: I bet, I bet, I bet Jase Peters is gonna

953
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 4: be useful in this roster I got.

954
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: I was looking at names because I was like, are

955
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 3: we gonna drop some Now, I'll drop a couple.

956
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: I'll give you three names.

957
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you three names, jerks and profar I

958
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: was gonna looking at him.

959
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 2: Would fit really well? Uh, Donovan Solano.

960
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 4: Would I've been saying donas last name for years. Chad

961
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 4: Pinder all good ones. Chad Pinder, such a sneaky barrel rate,

962
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 4: such a sneaky barwer rate. The last few years Ben

963
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 4: in League Gabbridge.

964
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: He plays everywhere he pitched, I mean.

965
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 4: Everyone Oakland pitch. The team was losing every single game

966
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 4: they played. But I mean these are his guys. They're

967
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 4: ball players, get freaking ball players out as. The Astros

968
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 4: like him enough to hit him fifth in the World Series.

969
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 2: Although we did see he would he crumbled under anything. Russure.

970
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, maybe maybe Houston was too big of a

971
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 4: city for a led me. I mean while I'll say,

972
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 4: we'll say before Mitch Haniger. I know Mitch Haniger could

973
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 4: really do some damage. You know, here's a fun one

974
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 4: that I'm sure Mets fans would like to hear.

975
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 5: This.

976
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 4: Is there a non zero chance on Michael couldfoord though,

977
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 4: is not. I'm not gonna say I on the Mets

978
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 4: because we don't want to put we want to put

979
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: words in people's mouths. But he's gonna be back in

980
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 4: baseball next year, and he could he could really help

981
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 4: a team play.

982
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,959
Speaker 3: He just he feels if the Orioles want to get

983
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 3: like some crazy power production out of nowhere. It feels

984
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: like Michael Confordo playing in that park and right field

985
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: Anthony Santander hit thirty five home runs this year or

986
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 3: whatever it was.

987
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 4: And there's a really good ball player.

988
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: No, I know he's good, but I'm saying, like Michael

989
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: Conforto's had some big years. Playing at City Field, as

990
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 3: as we know, doesn't really allow home runs.

991
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 4: There's so many options to go. That's the best part

992
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 4: about the off season. There's so many different directions teams

993
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 4: to go. The Mets signs Stephen Rithings today, no one

994
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:19,959
Speaker 4: knew was kidding.

995
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: We didn't even talk.

996
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 4: About Stephen Rising last episod. I'm talking about nine random pitcher.

997
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 4: No one even considers Steven Ridance has a pitch in

998
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 4: a year.

999
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: Look, they got him.

1000
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 4: Now we're excited. It's the best part.

1001
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1002
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys know, we're just gonna be talking

1003
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: a lot of baseball off season. I mean, that's what

1004
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 3: makes it great where uh we're big baseball fans, That's

1005
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 3: what we do. And I feel like there's just quick

1006
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 3: one last guy to talk about, and I think we'll

1007
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 3: dive deeper into him in a different episode because we

1008
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: have been kind of running a little bit longer here.

1009
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: But Code I Sanga. I feel like, is the hot

1010
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 3: name right now on the market. Japanese pitcher twenty nine

1011
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 3: years old coming from.

1012
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: The Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks, which that's in the MPB. If

1013
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 2: you guys didn't know out in Japan, dude's pitcher and

1014
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: he's coming to the United States.

1015
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 4: He is, he'll be thirty in an opening day. I

1016
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 4: feel like, as Mark said, he is hot right now.

1017
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 4: Michael Mayer had a tweet that went semi viral of

1018
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 4: him allegedly throwing one hundred two miles an hour. Well,

1019
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 4: he has gotten there. I don't think that's the kind

1020
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 4: of picture that kode is Sanga is, and but I

1021
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 4: do want to tell you about him, you guys about him,

1022
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 4: because he's very good. He's been an ace in the

1023
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 4: MPB for the last few years. He's thrown at least

1024
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 4: one hundred third of the innings and six of seven seasons,

1025
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 4: two of those who had over one hundred and seventy

1026
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 4: five innings twenty eight percent strikeouts, nine percent walks. Over

1027
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 4: those same seven seasons, he led the MPB in strikeouts

1028
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen and twenty twenty, and also led in erin

1029
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 4: win in twenty twenty, his best season in that league.

1030
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 4: So he is, he is a pictuer coming from Japan.

1031
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 4: He is as good as you're going to see. Of course,

1032
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 4: he's not as good of a picture in that league

1033
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 4: because the rookie Sasaki, I think is his name. He

1034
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 4: is the young phenom fireballer who sits one hundred miles

1035
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 4: an hour in that league, who is taller than Sanga,

1036
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 4: bigger than Sanga, throws harder than Sanga. He is the guy,

1037
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 4: but Sanga is a guy posting right now, and Sanga

1038
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 4: is someone who I think is a major league pitcher

1039
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 4: for sure. I kind of think of him like a

1040
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 4: souped up Kenttamaeva with the worst breaking ball but significantly

1041
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 4: better fastball. And it's because that fastball is actually legit.

1042
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 4: A lot of times when you when pitchers come over

1043
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 4: from Asia, the fastball isn't as good because that league

1044
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 4: just doesn't simply demand as much philosity. But his fastball,

1045
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 4: Sanga has picked up plenty of the over the last

1046
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 4: few years. It jumped from ninety two to ninety three

1047
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 4: miles an hour to ninety six ninety seven for the

1048
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 4: last two three years and now has gotten over one

1049
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 4: hundred that times. Like Mike Mayer said on Twitter, the

1050
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 4: movement also just like doesn't really look great. It's not

1051
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 4: exactly a bat missing pitch, which kind of plays into

1052
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 4: why his strikeout range Japan was just better than average

1053
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 4: rather than being elite e leite elite. It's just it's

1054
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 4: not flat. It has some of the rising action we

1055
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 4: want to see, but the plane is just not the

1056
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 4: plane makes it look look hittable, and maybe it just

1057
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 4: seemed more hittable because the Japanese swing is different than

1058
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 4: the mechanics of a major league swing where the guys

1059
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 4: start higher. I feel like it can kind of come

1060
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 4: to the ball quicker rather than the major leagues. Was

1061
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 4: a stronger load and players look for more power. But

1062
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 4: I would I would like to see how that bears

1063
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 4: itself out against major league hiding in major league games.

1064
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 4: But that fastball is legit and it is better than

1065
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 4: most fastballs that come over from Asia, the KBO and

1066
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 4: the MPB. One thing though, is that his forkball, which

1067
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 4: I now in the ciander knows all the correct of

1068
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 4: the football, which is pretty hilarious. But that is his

1069
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 4: outpitch that they say it disappears. It's just it's just

1070
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 4: a really really dominant hard splitter. Think of it that way.

1071
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: And they call it the ghost ball.

1072
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 4: I believe yeah, because it disappears, and he still throws

1073
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 4: in the mid eighties high eighties at times, and the

1074
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 4: pitch it disappears, it's a ghost ball. It's it's a

1075
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 4: pitch that will be a major league out pitch. I'm

1076
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 4: very sure of that. And that's why with those two

1077
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 4: pitches together. The fastball that throws is thrown very hard

1078
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 4: and with at least okay, fifty percentile movement. The floor here,

1079
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 4: even if you sign him to a long term deal

1080
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 4: and things go wrong, the floor is a very very

1081
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 4: very very good, high levelge believer worst case scenario. You're

1082
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 4: buying that sure, And that's because his slider and his color,

1083
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 4: his two breaking balls will call them, are not exactly

1084
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 4: missible pitches. The slide, it's just it kind of breaks

1085
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 4: downward rather than side to side. It's on basically one plane,

1086
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 4: and it doesn't look like it's that hard of a

1087
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 4: pitch to track, especially I don't know, just looking at

1088
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 4: the videos of it. It's hard for me to explain

1089
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 4: put in the words right now, but it's just it's

1090
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 4: not it doesn't look like it's great. But Sega has

1091
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 4: said repeatedly that he's interested in learning from major league

1092
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 4: club interested in playing a big market, interesting and getting

1093
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 4: the amount of data that major leage clubs have access to,

1094
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 4: which I think is a very very good thing for

1095
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 4: a picture like that. But on the other side of that,

1096
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 4: he is twenty nine years old already, He's gonna be

1097
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 4: thirty an opening day He's just six feet tall one

1098
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 4: hundred eighty pounds, so a bit slight for what you'd

1099
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 4: want from a frontline pitcher, and he has a very

1100
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 4: very violent release. He comes to the plate very hard,

1101
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 4: which makes me think, especially the fact that he missed

1102
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 4: a few weeks last year with elbow tightness, that he

1103
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 4: is a guy who's probably a little bit more prone

1104
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 4: to injury than the current scating reports. Lydus belief. Something

1105
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 4: that's funny about him that I learned just like doing

1106
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 4: a lot of like Manucia based research, is that he

1107
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 4: apparently this was just a rumor that was perpetuated from

1108
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 4: some MVP journalists apparently bench during this past season because

1109
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 4: he was not throwing as much fast as many fastballs

1110
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 4: as his manager wanted.

1111
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 2: Okay, how many fastballs do he throw? Forty five percent?

1112
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: That feels like hi.

1113
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 4: Hi high fastballs. But the MPB, and we know this

1114
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 4: from Shoheo Tani's courtship with the major leagues, they are

1115
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 4: much more old school, much more conservative. They don't they

1116
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 4: want their players to be a little bit more traditional,

1117
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 4: and I guess Sanga apparently wasn't like that. But Sanga

1118
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 4: a guy who's been so good for the last few years.

1119
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 4: Very clearly what has I set in Major League Baseball

1120
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 4: was very clearly fine tuning his game towards Major League

1121
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 4: Baseball and is a guy who I think does probably

1122
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 4: have a little more ceiling than what his play was

1123
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 4: in Japan, just based on the way he plays, the

1124
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 4: way he thinks, the way he's acted so far. And

1125
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 4: I want for all this data, I want to shout

1126
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: out Mark Sees never shout these guys out. Want to

1127
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 4: shout out Jim Allen at j ball Allen for his

1128
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 4: incredible blog on his own blog about klode Asanga and

1129
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 4: he is an NPB Twitter personality and journalist. He gave

1130
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 4: great content and if you guys want to learn more

1131
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 4: about kode Asanga, look that blog up. Look his Twitter

1132
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 4: account up Jim Allen j ball Allen. Because it was

1133
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 4: a very very very inform of the blog. He was

1134
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 4: by hand creating the run value in Kodia Sanga's pitches,

1135
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 4: getting the present tiles for h the run value in

1136
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 4: the whiff frame Kodai sangs pitches helped me give all

1137
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 4: this daya to you guys, Jim Allen shout them out.

1138
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: Can you guys tell it James likes talking about pitching.

1139
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 3: By chance, I go and we'll talk about him quickly.

1140
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 3: He's just like like three minutes. And it was a

1141
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 3: action packed three minutes.

1142
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: Of no breaths, lots of lots.

1143
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 3: Of information, anecdotal evidence as well in there with some stories.

1144
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: So you get on the Mets of the podcast, you

1145
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 2: get the full story.

1146
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 4: We're real baseball analysts here, you know, we're trying to

1147
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 4: bring the old school to the new school, as they.

1148
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 3: Say, exactly. And speaking of which, last bit of actual

1149
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 3: Mets information here before we bring Johnny because we haven't

1150
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 3: talked to john in a while, so we got to

1151
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: catch up with him. Mets hired a new director of hitting,

1152
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 3: Jeff Albert. Love it great Great.

1153
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 4: Jeff Albert was cut from the Astros cloth a few

1154
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 4: years ago. He came on with the Cardinals over the

1155
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 4: last four years. The Cardinals have actually had some shockingly

1156
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 4: good hitting development over the last four years too. And

1157
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 4: Jeff Albert is someone who seems to be committed to data.

1158
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 4: It's in his LinkedIn bio that he wants to combine

1159
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 4: y yeah, biometrics with data with baseball analysts analysis. So

1160
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 4: love Jeff Albert hopes to maybe have him on the

1161
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 4: pod along Matt Yeagers in the future. What yeah, Eric Gagers,

1162
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 4: Eric Eric Jeger said, Matt sorry, Eric Gagers.

1163
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 3: Ben zousmer Uh, Jeff Albert, Jeremy Heffner, any of the

1164
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: any of the anybody with the Mets.

1165
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: Especially the really really smart guys. We want to talk

1166
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: to you. Let's pick your brain a little.

1167
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 4: Bit, A hundred shout the shout the mest front office too,

1168
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 4: Because while there is a luxury tax and it's the

1169
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 4: facto salary cap of the players on your team, there

1170
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 4: is no cap on the spending on your coaches or

1171
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 4: your data acquisition services. So tip our caps to the

1172
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 4: organization for getting the best coaches that they think in

1173
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 4: this facility at a high rate.

1174
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: All right, let's bring Johnny in, John Bearn, we've been

1175
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 3: missing you. You've been Johnny Fairweather podcast over here?

1176
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 2: How you been John?

1177
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 5: I don't know if i'd say Johnny Fairweather. I mean,

1178
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 5: I've missed you guys last week.

1179
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 2: And internet.

1180
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 4: Freaking old man John can't even get a podcast off.

1181
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 4: Just for the listeners at home, I took I took,

1182
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 4: I took John's one Rangers game just as a thank

1183
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 4: you for all the great work he did for us

1184
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 4: this year, and he hasn't showed up since the last

1185
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 4: time we get him a gift.

1186
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 5: First of all, that's not true. We were together a

1187
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago. Uh. Second of all, we'll be

1188
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 5: together next week. Yeah, you know, the Long Island ol

1189
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 5: Road just wasn't cooperating last week. I was on my

1190
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 5: way to Rangers Islanders, which that was my mistake for

1191
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 5: even deciding to go there after the Rangers absolutely terrible.

1192
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 5: A lot of Islanders fans in the gardens, So that

1193
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 5: was a situation I didn't really want to be and

1194
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 5: I was much better off hanging with you guys. But yeah,

1195
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 5: you know, I've been busy. I've been hanging around. There

1196
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 5: was one thing I wanted to say to you guys

1197
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 5: last week that obviously I wasn't a part of the show.

1198
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 5: Well it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, So you know,

1199
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 5: I have I have some some show and tell. I was.

1200
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: I was there on hand for game six.

1201
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 4: Okay, game six of what John for all of our listeners,

1202
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 4: not on YouTube, that's correct.

1203
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 5: I all I did to be reminded for Game six

1204
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 5: of the twenty twenty two World Series.

1205
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 4: Oh really, cool.

1206
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I was there. Okay, ash shows win the

1207
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 5: World Series, great, it should be a massive celebration, right

1208
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 5: for sure, the entire town of Houston, or at least downtown.

1209
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 5: I can't speak about the suburbs shut down at two

1210
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 5: am on the night that their team wins a World Series.

1211
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 5: And to make matters worse, it was daylight savings. When

1212
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 5: it hit two am, it went back to one am,

1213
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 5: and they had that was a built in excuse to

1214
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 5: keep the party going for an extra sixty minutes of fun. Nope,

1215
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 5: every play shut down and.

1216
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna ever get over it.

1217
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 5: I just you know, when, not if, When our Mets

1218
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 5: win the World Series, I know for a fact, New

1219
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 5: York City will be going throughout the entire night us.

1220
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: Veto all the other met faithful out there. There will

1221
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: be no sleep.

1222
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 4: Will be an eighty six hour party.

1223
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 2: Yes, I know. It's South Carolina.

1224
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 3: When we had Daylight Savings of the fall back time,

1225
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 3: that was like the bars were like an extra hour

1226
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 3: to make money that we didn't previously make before. It

1227
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 3: was like, oh the bars normally close it too, it's

1228
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: one o'clock again, they're still open. You guys can stay

1229
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 3: out as long as you would like. Now you gotta

1230
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 3: stay open, Ohio, stay as well.

1231
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 4: I just stinctly remember game days in the beginning of November,

1232
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 4: usually right after we beat Penn State because it happened

1233
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 4: basically every year, and right before we beat Michigan. To'd

1234
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 4: just be a game against like an Indiana Maryland a team,

1235
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 4: a bad team like that, and it would just be like,

1236
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 4: all right, two, back to one or three, back to two.

1237
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 4: Another hour, there you go. Hoo hoo.

1238
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 5: Put on the Indiana We're talking about the number twelve

1239
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 5: ranked Indiana basketball.

1240
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 4: Shout out to the Indiana football team for going over

1241
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 4: seven and a half points last week.

1242
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: That was a big one. Did you guys? Did you

1243
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 2: guys catch uh this weekend?

1244
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 3: Because we were talking about other sports at the gardens,

1245
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 3: specific the UFC fight that was.

1246
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 2: Going on the ATASNIA card.

1247
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 3: There's this guy, Matt Fravola, apparently a diehard Met fan.

1248
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: So Matt, this is an open invitation to you.

1249
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 3: He came out to Narco's Narco Edwin Dias a song

1250
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 3: and they made a big deal about it on the broadcast,

1251
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: which I think is kind of cool too to see

1252
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 3: like MMA UFC talking about the Mets, Edwin Dias and

1253
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 3: Narco and how the song is basically taking the storm

1254
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 3: by taking the country by storm.

1255
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 2: That's that's the wording.

1256
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 4: Taking the country by storm, but should exclusively be by

1257
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 4: Mets fans and Mets faithful.

1258
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: That's that's the only way to ride. Matt Vola gets

1259
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 3: a pass because and he he knocked the guy out too.

1260
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 3: It was an impressive, impressive knockout. I was like, I

1261
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 3: didn't know what he was gonna do. I don't really

1262
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 3: know that much about you know, UFC, but he knocked

1263
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 3: the guy out clean.

1264
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 4: Open invitation to you, Matt, to come in the Mets

1265
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 4: the Podcast. We'd love to talk to you about your

1266
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 4: experience in UFC. Also UFC times just shout out to

1267
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 4: the Cage Calculus.

1268
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, shot outage Calculus.

1269
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 5: Well, you mentioned Narco. I guess I think the Ohio

1270
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 5: State band was one of the first in the country.

1271
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 5: It did to kind of rip it off among the

1272
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 5: non that's entities. Yeah, well yes, besides William Contreras, that

1273
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 5: is a much different story to talk about. One of

1274
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 5: my best friends actually got married over the weekend and

1275
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 5: Narco played, and that was probably the most poppin' part

1276
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 5: of the wedding to use to use a term.

1277
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: From a cool term like I do, like no cap.

1278
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 5: James, what do you think about the term no cap?

1279
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 4: I think that everyone in this in this chat right now,

1280
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 4: especially you, John, are significantly too old to say that

1281
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 4: is this?

1282
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: Is this why you put on your hatch on for

1283
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: no cap?

1284
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: I did? I did?

1285
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 5: So you know now that the season's over estimate is

1286
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 5: gonna have to wait until opening day of next year

1287
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 5: for us to get that going again. But obviously what

1288
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 5: we do here was we have fun. So we're brainstorming

1289
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 5: some ideas. We're going to play a new game called

1290
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 5: no cap. And guys, I haven't even told you this.

1291
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 5: I was thinking that by myself privately. And nothing goes

1292
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 5: better with a cap than a uniform. So here's my thought.

1293
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 5: Here's my thought. My thought is you guys pulling up

1294
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 5: some money each episode and we play this. I'm gonna

1295
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 5: give you guys both five statements, and you need to

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Speaker 5: tell me if it's a true or a false statement,

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00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 5: and the loser of that episode five statements. Now, I'm

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00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 5: not throwing five dollars five statements, So I'll throw you

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00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 5: guys both five statements. You both need to tell me

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00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 5: it's true or it's false. It's gonna be ranging, It's

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00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 5: not gonna be Baseball, gonna be Mets, could be anything,

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00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 5: and you'll see what I mean by that. Okay, some

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00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 5: money will go to a pool.

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00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: And as we get.

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00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 5: Closer, because I know Mark has the Trevor May jersey,

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00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 5: the infamous Trevor May jersey, we will let the fans

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00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 5: decide which one of you buys a uniform.

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00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: And they could pick it could be a.

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00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 5: Meta past, present, future, It could be a funny word.

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00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 5: I don't care what it is on the back, and

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00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 5: you guys have to wear it around City field in

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00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 5: twenty twenty three.

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00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 4: Okay, so money and we're betting embarrassment.

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00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 5: Correct. That's the best way to do these things, I believe.

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00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean all right, what don't want to use

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00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 3: that Mets connection to get a free Mets jersey with

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00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 3: some random name?

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00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 2: Gotta pay for that one?

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00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 4: Would be way too easy.

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Speaker 5: Yes, No, this is much more fun for those statements.

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00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 5: All right, Mark, you're gonna go first.

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00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 2: Here.

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00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 5: You were talking NBA, been watching a lot of NBA,

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00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 5: So here's your first capro no cap statement. Chris Paul

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00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 5: leads the NBA and assists per game this season. Capro

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00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 5: no cat, No cap, that's cap. It's actually Tyrese Haliburton.

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00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: Oh man, I thought I was gonna oh oh wait,

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00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 2: No cap means for one.

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Speaker 4: Dang it.

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00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 2: I think I misunderstood the question there because we're too old.

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00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 4: To understand this cod The statement.

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00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 3: Means it's true, and cap means it's false. Okay, all right, James,

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00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 3: you're up there.

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00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 5: I'm up all right. Tyler Anderson had the lowest average

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00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 5: exit philosophy against among pitchers with at least two hundred

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00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 5: fifty batted balls in play in twenty twenty two. Oh, no, cap,

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00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 5: that is correct.

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Speaker 2: You give him a.

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00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 5: Baseball one topical today.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry.

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00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 5: It's gonna be fair.

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00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 4: Back and forth, all right for you, Pupe Master John.

1343
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 5: There we go for Mark Curtis Granderson, who had the

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00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 5: twenty fifteen mets and home runs.

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00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: Cap.

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00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 5: That is correct.

1347
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 2: It was this dude. Yeah, that's where I was going there, Yes, okay,

1348
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: back on the board.

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00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 5: Pain, all right, all right, very good, all right, James.

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00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 5: For you, the Mariana Trench, located in the Pacific Ocean,

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00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 5: is the deepest oceanic trench honor. No cap, that is correct.

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00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 2: I knew that one too.

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00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 5: Oh did you actually know that one?

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00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: I'm a trenchman, I know that, useless trench man.

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00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, this guy in the trenches.

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00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: All right.

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00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 5: A chef's hat is made with one hundred plates, traditionally

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00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 5: representing the one hundred different ways you can cook vegetables.

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00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: Cap or no cap.

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00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: Cap, There's no way there's one hundred pleats in the

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00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 2: chef's hat. That thing's not that big. It's a cylinder.

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00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 5: Well, there are one hundred polats, but it's to represent

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00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 5: the one hundred ways you can cook cook egg.

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00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: So there is cap.

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00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 4: You can cook an egg one hundred ways either ways,

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00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 4: that's why the chefs has one hundred pleats. That Mark

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00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 4: should lose because of that one hundred ways to cook

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00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 4: an egg. The fact Mark said they're wearing a hundred

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00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 4: and then gave the right answer with the wrong reason

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00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 4: they should lose that point.

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00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 5: Winter all right, James, for you, Christian Yelwich hit more

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00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 5: ground balls than anyone else in Major League Baseball this season.

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00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 5: O cap, Oh, it's cap? Yesap lad Guerrero Juniors Christian

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00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 5: Yoich was up there. You've both gotten one wrong.

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00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, Obi top and plus twenty three so far

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00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 4: in the next game. Tonight was just uh just was

1377
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 4: taken out of the game for Julius Randall.

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00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: Okay, shout out Tom Thibodeaux.

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00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 5: All right, so you both have one more here? Okay,

1380
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 5: all right, James, or excuse me, Mark, here you go.

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00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 5: The book The Cat and the Hat was originally written

1382
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 5: as a bet between Doctor Seuss and his editor.

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00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 3: What where's my baseball question? I'm gonna go with that's Cap.

1384
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 3: Doctor Seuss was was doing it because he just wanted money.

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00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 5: It was Cap for a different reason. But it was

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00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 5: Cap and the big the big big claws here. It

1387
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,479
Speaker 5: was actually green eggs and ham was what the bet

1388
00:57:58,560 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 5: was over?

1389
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: Where'd you sign these facts?

1390
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 4: We're doing this every episode.

1391
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 5: Might we might not.

1392
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 2: Put some pressure on James here though, put some pressure

1393
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: on him here?

1394
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 5: All right, all right, here we go, Okay, James. The

1395
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 5: top Thrilled Dragster in Sedar Point, Ohio is the tallest

1396
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 5: roller coaster in the world.

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00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 4: No cap, Oh, that's Cap, that's Cap.

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00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, kind ka right, kind the ka.

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00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: Come on to hit hit your two your two places,

1400
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 3: New Jersey and Ohio. You got you're not a roller

1401
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 3: coaster man, though.

1402
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 4: I'm a huge roller coaster man. I never made to

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00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 4: see the point though.

1404
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 2: You didn't go to see your point and you went

1405
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:38,919
Speaker 2: to Ohio State.

1406
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 4: I know, just busy.

1407
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 3: That's you fumbled the bag on that one. You're an

1408
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 3: excursion man too.

1409
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 4: No, I'm a u excursion man.

1410
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 5: Well, I guess I win the first Mark Mark wins.

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00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: Let's go I win, man. We'll see. We'll see if

1412
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 2: the sticks.

1413
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 3: You guys at home can let us know through reviews

1414
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 3: on the podcast, through the YouTube comments, through Twitter, Instagram,

1415
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 3: whatever it is. I'm sure this is gonna be turned

1416
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 3: into a TikTok. Just know that your boy won the

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00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 3: first ever iteration of no cap in it.

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00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 2: Maybe is the only one. We'll see. We'll see how

1419
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,439
Speaker 2: this one goes. But I like winning, so let's keep

1420
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 2: doing it. Why not?

1421
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 5: I can't want to see James in the hat Vida putting.

1422
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 4: At James animated hat, all right?

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00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 5: Put that maybe a chef's hat with one hundred polats.

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00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1425
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 4: Maybe it's crazy that Mark was so vehemently wrong about

1426
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 4: that he still.

1427
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 3: Got credit for Listen when you're hot, You're hot man.

1428
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 3: I'm back on a hot streak.

1429
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 2: My cold streak is dead. I'm on a heater right now,

1430
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: so I'm feeling good.

1431
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 4: I don't think that's true.

1432
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 2: I'm on a heater. I'm on a heater.

1433
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 3: But anyway, speaking of a heater, I think this is

1434
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 3: a perfect place for us to end this episode.

1435
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 2: John, thank you for hanging out. Appreciate him, missy.

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00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 5: Guys next week.

1437
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 2: Thank you guys for listening on this crazy episode.

1438
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 3: It was all over the place, but that's what happens

1439
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 3: sometimes with the Mets Up podcast.

1440
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, guys.

1441
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 3: Make sure you're following us on all our social media

1442
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 3: at metst up on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. YouTube videos

1443
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 3: on the New York Mets YouTube channel, and if you're

1444
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,680
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1445
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Speaker 3: the podcast. Make sure you sign up for the those

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01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 3: auto downloads. We really do appreciate it. Follow James on Twitter.

1447
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 4: At James Underscore Siano.

1448
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: And follow me at traft neckmark with a C.

1449
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 3: Thank you guys, and we'll talk to you on a

1450
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 3: big number episode episode one fifty.

1451
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 2: See you guys next time.

1452
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 4: Peace See you next time. Peace out, guys, Get out.

1453
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 5: Yet, Get up?

1454
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 4: Get up,