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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Mets Up presented by Fox One. Well,

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Speaker 1: the rumor mill is hot Terrek Schouble apparently might be

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Speaker 1: on the market. The Tigers and Schooble are two hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars away in a contract extension, which

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Speaker 1: that is an alert to everybody in the world that's

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Speaker 1: ever watched baseball. He's not coming back. He's leaving Detroit.

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Speaker 1: That is such an unbelievable amount of distance. It's honestly

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Speaker 1: disrespectful to Trek Schooble. I know he's a Boris client,

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Speaker 1: he's asking for a lot, but that's probably irreparable damage

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Speaker 1: when you are two hundred and fifty million dollars apart

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Speaker 1: with a star player who is by far one of

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Speaker 1: the if not the best pitchers in all of Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball, and the Mets are heavily linked. So me

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Speaker 1: and Jams are going to talk about possible trade scenarios

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Speaker 1: for Trek Scooble to come to the New York Mets,

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Speaker 1: what a contract extension would possibly look like if he

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Speaker 1: ever does sign one, because he is a Bors client

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Speaker 1: still at the end of the day, and honestly, just

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Speaker 1: a little fun baseball talk for you, because we haven't

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Speaker 1: had a real good rumor like this in quite some time.

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Speaker 1: But James, I know you're chomping at the bit to

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Speaker 1: get going on this one. Can't wait.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited just because we've been talking about the fact that,

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Speaker 2: like ad nauseum, how much the Mets d and ACE

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Speaker 2: pitcher if the Mets actual DNA's pitcher. We did that

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Speaker 2: one recently. Who is who are real ace pitchers? This

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Speaker 2: is the one that is. Even though it's almost ninety

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Speaker 2: nine point nine percent chance of one year commitment for

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Speaker 2: Tterrek school ble, you definitely still pull the trigger on

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Speaker 2: something like this and something going to talk about a

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Speaker 2: lot in this video because it's guaranteed one year for

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Speaker 2: Tarrek school ball. I don't think that this trade would

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Speaker 2: cost as much as some people might think. I think

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Speaker 2: you might, especially if any Tiger's fans is finding your

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Speaker 2: guys feed, you might be very disappointed and underwhelmed.

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Speaker 3: It's his trade eventually goes off.

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Speaker 2: Similar to the Brewers with Corbyn Burt, It's a very

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Speaker 2: similar situation right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Now that being said, there's pretty much well thing,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, in the Mets system right now that

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Speaker 1: is untouchable I think Noel McLain is the only guy

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Speaker 1: that we would say no, we're not gonna move him.

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Speaker 1: But I think Tom Jet Williams probably maybe you don't

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Speaker 1: even have to move Carson bench. Probably at this point

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Speaker 1: even he might be too much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree that. I don't think Ben. I

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Speaker 2: don't think McClain is anywhere close to being on the table.

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Speaker 2: If McClain is like deep away, like in the basement

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Speaker 2: the tables in the kitchen, he's not even close to

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Speaker 2: being on the table bench just like two rooms away.

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Speaker 2: There's like basically no way he's on the table unless

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Speaker 2: there's a chaoic bidningmore. But I think something basically like

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Speaker 2: Jonahtong and someone else or Jet Williams and Brandon Sprote.

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Speaker 2: I think that those are like the two avenues to

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Speaker 2: go down to headline this trade. Elizabeth Benn had a

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Speaker 2: great trade proposal action in SNY a few days ago,

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Speaker 2: and it was that it was a Jet Williams, Brandon Sprote,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Clifford, Nick Morby though package, and I even think

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Speaker 2: that would be aka. It's it's a weird thing to

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Speaker 2: explain because the way that these trades work, it's not

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Speaker 2: just about the skill of the player. And we know

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Speaker 2: we've known that seeing this over the years, and that

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Speaker 2: seems ridiculous to say out loud that you can guess

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Speaker 2: a Terrork Schoogle caliber player, a Terrek Scooble himself. For

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Speaker 2: brand Sproteo's probably a mid rotation guy, Jet Williams, who's

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Speaker 2: like an infielder with fairly cap ceiling. And then Ryan Clifford,

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Speaker 2: who again has his limitations, Nick Marbito, who's just a

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Speaker 2: forty man roster defensive specialist. But for a one year deal,

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Speaker 2: that's it's in the range of what it we take again,

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Speaker 2: especially thinking back to the Corbyn Burns deal for dal

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Speaker 1: Deale Hall is a is a reliever now and Joey

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Speaker 1: Ortiz only and deal Joey Orties can only play defensively.

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Speaker 1: He can't hit unless he plays against the New York Mets.

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Speaker 1: So like that haul back pretty horrible for the Brewers

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Speaker 1: in retrospect when you look back on it, I expect

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Speaker 1: the Tigers are gonna want still a little bit more

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Speaker 1: than what the Brewers got back. We know these organizations

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Speaker 1: do work differently. While there is that still big difference

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Speaker 1: in John Hayman's pocket again, you know, and getting the

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Speaker 1: right word out, because we do know that sometimes these

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Speaker 1: rumors are perpetrated by or perpetuated, that's a better word, perpetuated, perpetrated.

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Speaker 1: It has to do with criminals, perpetuated by Scott Boris's

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Speaker 1: he's the best in the business. He's gonna make sure

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Speaker 1: his guys get paid, go where he wants go, where

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Speaker 1: they get that money. And Detroit has spent money in

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Speaker 1: the past. But being that far away does feel difficult.

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Speaker 1: And I would assume a package of like this might

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Speaker 1: even be overkilled at this point. But Tom and Jet

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Speaker 1: as soon as they possibly could.

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Speaker 2: I think that would become the package if you had

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Speaker 2: another serious package to beat, Like if the Dodgers start

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Speaker 2: putting up there, if they throw in Jake Joe's waye

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Speaker 2: to to Paul, like, then you have to beat something,

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Speaker 2: because that's a better asset than you have.

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Speaker 1: And we and we might not, like they might be

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Speaker 1: like just wait because they're so loaded and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: spend money. They're like We're getting Trek Skchooble. We just

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Speaker 1: won the World Series. We're gonna bring this guy in,

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Speaker 1: like if they might not care.

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Speaker 2: I also wonder about where some of these rumors are

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Speaker 2: coming from, like you talk about. Of course everyone knows

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Speaker 2: the Hyme and Boord situation, but this really originated a

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Speaker 2: great piece by Will Salmon on the four sixth and

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Speaker 2: the way that he described it, just reading exactly from

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Speaker 2: the article Scoogle's entering his walkiear after producing a two

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Speaker 2: last two seasons. The New York Post John Aymon reported

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Speaker 2: that Tiger's and school Ball Scott Bori's client were more

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Speaker 2: than two hundred million dollars apart in contract talks last year.

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Speaker 2: So that to me feels like that they asked for

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Speaker 2: five hundred and they the Tiger said back three hundred.

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Speaker 3: Cause I think when you look at.

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Speaker 2: Picture contracts around the league right now, players who are

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Speaker 2: similar to Schoogle. If you can say anybody is similar

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Speaker 2: to Tarek Schooble, you wind up in the three hundred

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Speaker 2: million dollars. You know, show Beyon Mother three undred twenty

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Speaker 1: But then and then the other interesting thing too with

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Speaker 1: ish compared to some of these other pictures where their

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Speaker 1: contracts act. Because like Wheeler's on forty two million dollars

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Speaker 1: de gram was thirty four years old. He signed for

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Speaker 1: thirty seven million dollars a year. Schoobl's in that kind

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Speaker 1: of sweet spot right now where he's still got a

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Speaker 1: and he is the best pitcher in baseball. One A

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Speaker 1: to Paul Schemes, one be whatever you want to say.

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Speaker 1: They're both the number one guys, no easily.

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Speaker 2: And I also think that a lot of comparisons now

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Speaker 2: get him and then he was signed to a somewhat

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Speaker 2: favorable extension. Immediately, it felt like that was a not

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Speaker 2: White Sox in the second half. He was that soft

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Speaker 2: he pitched, how many injuries he'd been through. And then again,

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Speaker 2: when you make this trade, you know it's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Because with Crochet, how few winnings he had, it would

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Speaker 2: can do like a Michael Parsons Jamar Chase take the

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Speaker 2: forty million dollars a year. He is, He's that good.

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Speaker 2: He's the man right now. And also there's just because

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where when Schurzer hit.

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Speaker 2: Free agency, he didn't have that many great seasons, like

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Speaker 1: Where I mean, it's it's almost exactly like sure the

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Speaker 1: Schurezer won the cy Young in twenty thirteen. Twenty fourteen

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Speaker 1: and he won it last year too, So it's it's

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Speaker 2: And again it's important to keep the injury stuff like

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Speaker 2: we said at the top, I willingly give almost any

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Speaker 2: later on. I'd give him a fat deal too, forty

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Speaker 2: Terry Scooble had missed two full years with Tommy John

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Speaker 2: Then where he missed that was two years ago, because

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Speaker 2: in August, that was twenty twenty three. That was when

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Speaker 2: he went and that was when he boomed and he

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Speaker 3: And we love that. We loved that late bloomer stuff

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Speaker 2: That's always kind of feels like that's when things are

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Speaker 3: But he's he really is that good.

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Speaker 1: He's so good. He's We've talked about like Sterns and

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Speaker 1: Cohen and just like how business is done on the

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Speaker 1: Mets and in general, and we we've said that Sterns

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Speaker 1: And there there simply is no other guy besides Paul

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Speaker 1: Skins that will be able to have the impact that

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Speaker 1: you have on the mountain, like trek skool right now

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and this is the best part of it. Ronnie

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Speaker 2: It's funny to look at picture contracts in the league

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Speaker 3: Look at here.

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Speaker 2: It's perfect because it wasn't signed very long ago. He

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Speaker 1: The school is right in he's twenty eight, but it's

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Speaker 1: Really, people are divide about this. I've been I will

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Speaker 2: No, And but again I think that was also an

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Speaker 2: awareness and maybe like an eye opening moment for some

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Speaker 2: people that you just don't make that big a trade

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Speaker 2: for guys who are rentals. And I think that every

437
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Speaker 2: major league front office, every single one, is so risk averse,

438
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Speaker 2: so much more risk averse than we could ever even imagine.

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Speaker 2: They will never take on something like that where it's

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Speaker 2: kind of like Sam and alluded to the Mets farms

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Speaker 2: is and we'll go from like a top.

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Speaker 3: Five in the league to like a bottom half of

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Speaker 3: the league.

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Speaker 2: It's the second they make this straight immediately, and I

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Speaker 2: think that losing that kind of security. And when I

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Speaker 2: say security, I'm talking about the fact you have a

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Speaker 2: bunch of cheap, free players that you know are going

448
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Speaker 2: to be solid at least majorly contributes.

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Speaker 3: That will definitely scare some people who are in these

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Speaker 3: front offices.

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Speaker 2: But it's a situation where no, you just you just

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Speaker 2: had you have to is And I was I had

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Speaker 2: a few libations on Saturday night. I'm enjoying a joining

454
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Speaker 2: the old country over here, and I texted you Mark,

455
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Speaker 2: I was like, in my heart of hearts right now,

456
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Speaker 2: like this is going to happen.

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Speaker 3: I really do like it's the stars are aligned.

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Speaker 1: For you to say that too is a lot for

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Speaker 1: the people who do understand that, because normally, like I'm

460
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Speaker 1: the pipe dream guy, I'm gonna be like this is

461
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Speaker 1: I Like, I'm usually one who's like, have a couple

462
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Speaker 1: of drinks and be like, ah, you know what, I

463
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Speaker 1: believe something crazy is gonna happen James to do that,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of it's kind of a big deal.

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Speaker 3: But you know what's funny. I don't think this is

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Speaker 3: that crazy for thing to happen.

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Speaker 2: No, I think that I think the stars are actually

468
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Speaker 2: perfectly lined for this because the Tigers knowing that they're

469
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Speaker 2: not going to be able to offer a four hundred

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Speaker 2: million dollar contract, not not knowing they don't want to

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Speaker 2: offer four hundred million dollar contract, not that they can

472
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Speaker 2: offer that, to offer it, they know they have to

473
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Speaker 2: get something for Terry Scooble Like it's it's also I truthfully,

474
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Speaker 2: because I posted on twy the other day talking about

475
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Speaker 2: that Elizabeth ben Dre propos and how I thought it

476
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Speaker 2: was a really good one, and I Tiger's fans really angry,

477
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Speaker 2: and my mentioned I was like, there's nothing to do

478
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Speaker 2: with you guys.

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Speaker 3: I yeah, I think that you should resign him.

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Speaker 2: I think you should be probably the number one to

481
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Speaker 2: give this guy the biggest contract of any pitcher.

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Speaker 3: Of all time.

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Speaker 2: But sad that it's come to this and this is

484
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Speaker 2: the situation that's in and it's going to be much

485
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Speaker 2: more sad when you get a very underwhelming return.

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Speaker 1: For him yeah, because I mean, I hate that Buster

487
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Speaker 1: Roll only was doing this during the postseason, but like,

488
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Speaker 1: and we're kind of doing it now talking about it,

489
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Speaker 1: but they're out of it at least now where their

490
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Speaker 1: school was still playing when you know the media, Marvel

491
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Speaker 1: himself put it out, but I have been nice after

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Speaker 1: the game ending. Yeah, Like, if you are not going

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Speaker 1: to keep him, which you should, and this is gonna

494
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Speaker 1: be something that we talk about over on the wind up,

495
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Speaker 1: make sure you guys subscribe link in the description. Like

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Speaker 1: a lot of people blame the Dodgers for one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons why there's gonna be a lockout, but then

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Speaker 1: you look at the Red Sox could have kept Mookie Betts,

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Speaker 1: the Rays could have kept Tyler Glass. Now they chose

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Speaker 1: not to pay him. Like show heyo, Haney went to

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Speaker 1: the Angels, here's the contract I want. They said, now

502
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Speaker 1: we're good, and he went to the Dodgers. There's a

503
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who are at fault. Is

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Speaker 1: not the Dodgers' fault for signing good players. Similarly, it

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Speaker 1: would not be the Mets fault for being like, oh,

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Speaker 1: the Tigers don't want to play Tarek's school pay Trek

507
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Speaker 1: schoob Well, yeah, we'll take them. That's not their fault.

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Speaker 2: And again it's just it's a shit situation mostly for

509
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Speaker 2: the Tigers fans and fans that's the worst part because

510
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Speaker 2: like if you, if you, if this trade happens on

511
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Speaker 2: a cold day of January, and then as a Tigers fan,

512
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Speaker 2: you know, the last thing the Arry Schooble did was

513
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Speaker 2: just give you seven scoreless in the last game of

514
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Speaker 2: your season and then you put you put I mean

515
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Speaker 2: a hundred pitches. Again, we talked about that. He only

516
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Speaker 2: went like three or four times the whole season hundred pitches.

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Speaker 2: But you I'd have a pit in my stomach that

518
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Speaker 2: never get out, Like if that could, that could be

519
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Speaker 2: a joker moment for a Tigers fan, Like you might

520
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 2: seriously lose, you might seriously lose your sparkle for baseball.

521
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Speaker 2: And it's a shame that this it's at this point

522
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Speaker 2: even looking at a team like the Brewers again, now

523
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Speaker 2: I feel like we're just doing a prep for the

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Speaker 2: next wind Upisoe we're about to record.

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Speaker 1: But like, give him a little give him a little snipet.

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Speaker 2: Again, the Brewers got housed by the Dodgers. There wasn't

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Speaker 2: even again. All the games were relatively close, but there

528
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Speaker 2: was a moment where they really felt particularly competitive. It

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Speaker 2: kind of felt like Dodgers played with their food. Do

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Speaker 2: you think back, You're like, wow, this team had Corbin Burns,

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Speaker 2: Willie Damas and Josh Hayter, they'd probably have a better

532
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Speaker 2: chance to win the series, like these teams have that.

533
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Speaker 2: And there's the great graphic that always goes around about

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Speaker 2: teams payroll as a sheriff their revenue and it gets

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Speaker 2: aggregating stolen all the time, but it's originated by Travis

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Speaker 2: Sauchik and from the score he wrote the MVP machine.

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Speaker 2: Now he's a drive line and he called the screw

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Speaker 2: ge indecks forur percentage of team's payroll that for their

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Speaker 2: revenue they spend on payroll. Most of the league is

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Speaker 2: under fifty percent, the Mental League League in ninety percent,

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers in the seventies. But the Dodgers' revenue is

542
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Speaker 2: like seven hundred million dollars a year. No other team

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Speaker 2: that thinks over five hundred. And then the bottom you

544
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Speaker 2: see the same teams over and over again. You see

545
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Speaker 2: the White Sox, you see the Marlins, the Orioles are

546
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Speaker 2: in the middle. You see the Cubs like fifth to last,

547
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Speaker 2: which is a disgrace. Honestly, if I was a Cubs fan,

548
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Speaker 2: I'd be tearing my hair out because of the Rickets.

549
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Speaker 2: One of the rich stoners in the league, and they

550
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Speaker 2: cry poor all the time. You have a guy like

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Speaker 2: Terror Schoogle, he should never wear another jersey. Give the

552
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Speaker 2: guy exactly what he wants because he's earned it. You

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Speaker 2: just went through this. If you're the Tigers, a deck

554
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Speaker 2: to go with Max Scherzer. You watched him winside Young's

555
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Speaker 2: and win a World Series with another team. Did you

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Speaker 2: see the clip going around about them when Schurzer and

557
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Speaker 2: Annibal Sanchez were hugging and crying after the National sales

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Speaker 2: a nineteen World Series win and animals like we got one.

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Speaker 2: We finally did it, and Max like I'm so happy

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Speaker 2: we could do it together. Plus a Tiger's fan, that's

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Speaker 2: like literally like that's a Kys moment because like, how

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Speaker 2: with you doing? You have a big, beautiful ballpark to

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Speaker 2: the Tigers. It's not a small market. It's not a

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Speaker 2: big market either. You got the money, like do it

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Speaker 2: and if we have to take advantage of that, situation.

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Speaker 2: We have to take advantage of the situation as the Mets, but

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Speaker 2: it's it's a shit situation for Tigers fans. I want

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen if you have. We had cheap

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Speaker 1: owners for a while too, so I'm sorry to here,

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Speaker 1: but now that we're not one of those, I really

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Speaker 1: hope the Mets take advantage of what they used to have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you want to spend a hot second here,

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Speaker 2: maybe thinking about trade proposals from other teams and like

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Speaker 2: just kind of game planning who's going to go where?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So I mean the teams that I would think the

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Speaker 1: Blue J's are probably gonna be in on him too, right,

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Speaker 1: just because they're a team that's also been trying to

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Speaker 1: spend a lot of money. They're trying to win.

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Speaker 2: Relax, well unless like Savage, like they would have to

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Speaker 2: put Darre McLain up for the deal to make it worthwhile.

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Speaker 2: Like he Savage would have to be the future because

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Speaker 2: of what they lack in their upper miners.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeahs will want to play it like the Brewers. They're

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Speaker 2: going to want near MLB ready talent because they still

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Speaker 2: want to sell their fans in a wild card.

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Speaker 3: Berth next year just because they don't hate their their guts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ricky Teaman has been hurt forever now, so it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be h He's not a prospect.

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Speaker 3: But let's you look at m pipe one twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm just thinking, I'm thinking out loud because they

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Speaker 1: really have no pitching prospects that are close right now.

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Speaker 1: I won't say.

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Speaker 3: Ironical aspects, but close.

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Speaker 1: They don't have anything.

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Speaker 3: I see.

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Speaker 2: I see five teams like seriously being in on this, Dodgers,

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Speaker 2: the Mets, the Dodgers, the Yankees, the Socks, and then

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Speaker 2: I was kind of thinking the Giants, but I don't

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Speaker 2: know what they.

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Speaker 3: Have the time.

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Speaker 1: The Yankees, but the Yankees will not be able to

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Speaker 1: put a better package than anybody that's ahead of them.

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Speaker 2: Could you imagine how the Padres feel right now trading

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Speaker 2: Leo the Fries the Miller they would have, they would

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Speaker 2: have to not hit again in the playoffs, and they

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Speaker 2: would be able to put him up for terror' scoogle

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Speaker 2: right now and beat most of the packages of other

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Speaker 2: teams are offering.

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Speaker 3: So the Red Sox can do it.

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Speaker 1: Red Sox, Yeah, they could do it one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: If you Marcella Meyer and Peyton totally would be like, yep.

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Speaker 1: They would take that at a heartbeat.

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Speaker 3: That that probably beats Jet and Tongue. It's close, It's similar,

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Speaker 3: It's close.

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Speaker 1: It's very close. The Dodgers obviously will have the best

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Speaker 1: package out of anybody we know that, although they don't.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was going to say she and would have

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Speaker 2: to be and she would have to be their trump card.

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Speaker 2: That would that's that would be the only thing that

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Speaker 2: would bring Nolan McLain from the basement to the room

652
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Speaker 2: next to where the table is to put him near

653
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Speaker 2: the table. But I still think if the ask for

654
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: McCain the best just hanging up the phone like no,

655
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 2: we're not yeah, no.

656
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: Don't don't think the Mets would be traded McLain.

657
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 3: We have a top thirty pitcher for for the next

658
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 3: six years.

659
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: So we're working these teams have like looking at these teams,

660
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: it's so hard to find a team that do have

661
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: a good pitcher and hitter that are close to major

662
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: League ready in the farm system.

663
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 2: And that's also the joy of where we are right

664
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Speaker 2: now with the Mets, where you we haven't been able

665
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 2: to go in on any situations, say we can have

666
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: the best package.

667
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: What Phillies.

668
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, Miller and Miller and Painter.

669
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: That would actually, that would that that would suck Miller

670
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: and Painter or Justin Crawford. And that's so Dave Dombrowski, Oh,

671
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: sick to my stomach thinking about that. Wheelers out for

672
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: the year. If they don't care about the extension. Dave

673
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 1: don Browski's trying to win the World Series with these

674
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: guys one more time. Oh God, I see it.

675
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 3: Fuck.

676
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 2: I still think one they they they've been hesitant to

677
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: put Painter into any deal. And I think even Dave

678
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: don Braski, like we talked before, he's the least risk

679
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: averse I think, top executive in baseball. I still think

680
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 2: that was getting ship out of him to put those things. Also,

681
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: I think he's.

682
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: Got he's gonna be gone if they don't win something

683
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: next year.

684
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 2: Surely I think, like I maybe, I mean, he hasn't

685
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: been available before the Yankees. Also, the Yankees definitely don't

686
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: have anywhere close to this kind of prospect capital.

687
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 3: But I do think that a team like.

688
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: The Tigers, and this is the thing you hate, and we

689
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: always talk about these trades and his prospect stuff, a

690
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: guy like George Lombard being available, which we don't even

691
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 2: know if the Yankees would do that, but like a

692
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: lockdown defensive short side, major league teams value.

693
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 3: The ship out of that.

694
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: I know you hate that so much. He would be

695
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: I will say I'm on the right side of history

696
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: with that too, because I fucking hated Joey Ortiz, Like, oh,

697
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: defensive shorts. I'm like, wow, cool guys, they grow on trees.

698
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: You can get them anywhere.

699
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 2: But that would that's still and again maybe they're not

700
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 2: going to do that. I just there's nothing really we

701
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: can look at from Scott Harris's history because the Astros

702
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: never really sold anything when he was there, so it's

703
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: hard to see what what he would like, what he

704
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: would see search seek out.

705
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: There's also a world where just knowing you're not gonna

706
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: extend him, that a team with a deep farm system

707
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: might be in should be like, this is our chance,

708
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: let's take a shot. One year we got Trek Schouble.

709
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 3: Who is that though? Threads Cincinnati Reds.

710
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean, why not? Right do they have a picture?

711
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: I mean it'd be like rehtt Louder and stinks red

712
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: Louder and like South Stewart.

713
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I actually don't think that's enough at all. Okay,

714
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 2: I'm just trying one for one, but that's I think that.

715
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 2: I don't think they would do that. I don't think

716
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 2: they would do that.

717
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that'd be I actually think that would

718
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: be dumb for them because they're knowing they're not going

719
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: to resign. You know who would have a sick package

720
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: for Trek Scooble, The Tigers, the Pittsburgh Pirates would have

721
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: an awesome package they would be that would actually be

722
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: so cool if they did that, that'd be sick.

723
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: I actually there's a fund side. Now I'm happy you're

724
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: going down this road. Imagine the Rays.

725
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: Imagine the Rays were like, yeah, one year of Tarrek

726
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: school ball, that would be sick.

727
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: That would be fun.

728
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: Do the rate does is Jack lighter interesting? Lighter? And Walcott?

729
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Proof himself a lot this year.

730
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: I think you know, there's not there might have probably

731
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: not ace level ceiling with that command, but the way

732
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: he just six pitched his way out of a lot

733
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: of trouble.

734
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, do the Mariners take a look? Mariners have guys.

735
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: The Mariners actually a great one there.

736
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: But I'm again by the time this, yeah, we don't

737
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: know if the Mariners are going to Game seven or

738
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: going to the World Series.

739
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: If I'd be scared a little bit.

740
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: For this offseason if I was a Mariners fan, So

741
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: I think you're I think you're dreaming of like, Wow,

742
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: we did it.

743
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: We're over here.

744
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: But like with no Suarez, no Nailer likely next year fair,

745
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: I would I would definitely be a little bit scared

746
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: about how to Poo and those owners handle this.

747
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: If only the Orioles had a starting pitcher, they could

748
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: just do Corbyn Burns again.

749
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: I mean again, with what Sam is saying right now,

750
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure a team can still offer position players and

751
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: make this likely. But I think that it's a fun thing.

752
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: It's happened to dynasty leagues. You guys playing dynasty baseball

753
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: leagues as well, where no one wants pitching because everyone's

754
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: so scared of paying top dollar to acquire pitching. Once

755
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: you get in season, you realize no one has enough pitching.

756
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: You want pitching badly, and now pitching costs more than

757
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: anything else in the world. So I think the real

758
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: life teams go through this and just it's a silly

759
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: thought exercise, but.

760
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: I think it's worth it.

761
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: Right now, on fangrafts, if you go to the board

762
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: their prospect list, you can filter just for teams. You

763
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: could add any teams you want. And if you add

764
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: for teams, the Mets have the three best starting pitcher

765
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: prospects of the Dodgers, the Yankees, the Red Sox, and

766
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: the I have Onemore team in here. Dodgers, the Yankees,

767
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: the Red Sox.

768
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: No, that's it.

769
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna this will be my last time convo

770
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: about like teams that should the the A's if Fisher

771
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: ever wanted to spend money, this is the guy. You're

772
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: gonna get to Vegas after the lockout for a little bit.

773
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: You'll be in Vegas soon ish.

774
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: Maybe you you They've.

775
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: Got some good prospects especially on the pitching side. They're

776
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: not gonna do it, but that would be fun. And

777
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: he was a nor Cow kid, Derek Schoogl, so maybe

778
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: they're straight play for him.

779
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: There is something funny about again because knowing that this

780
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: trade package won't be extreme, I hope that's the one

781
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: thing we're getting across you guys in this episode, that

782
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: the trade package will likely be very underwhelming on the

783
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: graphic or we come.

784
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: Back and it's gonna be insane. We're like, all right,

785
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: I mean I guess that one.

786
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been We've been wrong before, it will be

787
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: wrong again.

788
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: But I just I still just can't see these front

789
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: offics is going crazy for a guy on a one

790
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: year deal. If school, if it was two years of

791
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: Tarry School, I think that would exponentially change this discussion.

792
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: But it's not.

793
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: And maybe that does get some of these teams involved

794
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: who are like just one year of it, because I

795
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: think looking back, that's what the Orioles did with Corbyn Burns.

796
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: The Orioles were able to keep all of their blue chip,

797
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: high end prospects and they got one year run with

798
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: Corbyn Burns.

799
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: Work, but it's that worth a shot.

800
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 3: Best year they had in the last five years.

801
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not. You're never gonna look back at an

802
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: Orioles fan like, man, shouldn't they giving up dl Hall

803
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: and Enjoey were tease.

804
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: I again, not every prospect that you trade for bust

805
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: like dl Hall and Joey were teas.

806
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: But at this time, the.

807
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: Most important thing is always winning baseball games the next

808
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: season in front of you. That has added weight because

809
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: we don't know about the season after that. And there

810
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: were a lot of mess fans again talking about the split.

811
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: I was just in the replies, so not like Autanti

812
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: substantial sample. But people like I don't Eve want to

813
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: give any prospects, Let's sign him next year. It's like, no,

814
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: you want him to play for your team now. I

815
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: want to scoop. That's why we play now.

816
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: And it's easier to keep those guys here when you

817
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: have them, and we get the qualifying offer attached to

818
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: him to God forbid.

819
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: Just in case, and just get a pick off. It's

820
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,239
Speaker 2: always fun to have those little things. I just the

821
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: way that this story has grown in the last twenty

822
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: four hours have time we're recording this, it really feels

823
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: like there's a ton of steam.

824
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: It feels like this is gonna be a trade that

825
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 1: happens before Thanksgiving.

826
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: Like this feels like a winter meetings possibility.

827
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: And if this endings, I think the first week of December,

828
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: the week so you see something like that.

829
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it is first week of December. Yeah,

830
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be if he gets moved. It feels

831
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be early in the offseason.

832
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: And again, what we're saying with this is that if

833
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: he is actually available, which all reports indicate they are,

834
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: and we are the ipthentication the Mets are linked, we

835
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: can put up basically the best combination of pitchers and

836
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: position players, which is sick that we have the ability

837
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: to do that.

838
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: It's cool, and I hope we do. I really hope

839
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: we see Terry Scoopl on the Mets. That'd be a

840
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: lot of fun. I think that's enough though of this

841
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: conversation for now, as we hear, oh.

842
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: I want to add one more thing again, just just

843
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: cover more things in the Mets world. We together report

844
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: I think it was Wednesday, It's like a few days ago.

845
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: Listening to this, the Antoine Richardson not officially back. Yes, okay, yes,

846
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: need to agree to a contract. Just want to say, officially,

847
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: get your money. Yeah, the claim of the Mets Up Podcast.

848
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: Do whatever you can to keep Antrich in the building.

849
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: And Antoine get your bag because you're the man, best

850
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: first base coach in the game. All right, now, that's

851
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: it for the conversation. We'll talk more as we hear

852
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: more with you, guys, as we always do. Appreciate you

853
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,160
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857
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Speaker 1: for the c We will catch guys all on the

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Speaker 1: next episode.

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Speaker 3: Peace out, said guys.