Speaker 1: Cheers, sorry, cheers idologize for chin chin chin chin.
Speaker 2: That's what the Italians say, really yeah. Also apparently in
Speaker 2: Japanese it means tiny penis really, but I prefer the Italian.
Speaker 1: Well, in Italian it means cheers.
Speaker 2: Cheers, yeah, chinchin.
Speaker 1: What's your connection to Italian culture? Where you know that?
Speaker 2: Or zero?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: I love the way it sounds. Okay, chin chin chin chin,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Mark Reva, how do you how do you pronounce your
Speaker 1: last name?
Speaker 2: Again? You did it? You've knocked it out in the park.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was telling you beforehand. I like was on
Speaker 1: like fifty different interviews with you trying to find one
Speaker 1: where the interviewer said your name, yeah, so that I
Speaker 1: could be prepared.
Speaker 2: It's pretty much everybody fucks it up. But it's Robbie
Speaker 2: you killed it? Is that French? Yeah? That's very French?
Speaker 2: Okay French? Do you go to Dual Citizen? Really? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you go to France?
Speaker 2: Off? Yeah? I do? Now I go, you know, when
Speaker 2: I play shows, I generally go once a year on tour,
Speaker 2: but I used to go all the time when I
Speaker 2: was a kid. I'd go to the south of France.
Speaker 2: I had a pen palace all over there.
Speaker 1: And yeah, how often could do you write to your
Speaker 1: pen pal?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't write to him anymore, but we we
Speaker 2: do stay in touch. He's a good dude. He lives
Speaker 2: in Canada now, he's one of those like ex French
Speaker 2: transplants that lives in Canada. Now.
Speaker 1: Now, when you now, I assume your pen pal you
Speaker 1: just text him? Now? Yeah, but when you text him,
Speaker 1: do you write it like a letter?
Speaker 2: I write? I write a letter and then I take
Speaker 2: a picture of it and I send it to him
Speaker 2: on WhatsApp.
Speaker 1: That sounds efficient, It's it's not, It's.
Speaker 2: Not at all. I should probably just text the man,
Speaker 2: you know, Mark, what you been thinking about lately? Oh
Speaker 2: Jesus lyle Man, I gotta tell you, dude, please, I
Speaker 2: might need to call in. I've been very stressed, a
Speaker 2: lot of stress. I'm putting together this studio in Brooklyn
Speaker 2: that I'm doing this project in that I'm really really
Speaker 2: fucking pumped about. But what I didn't really take into
Speaker 2: account when I got this space was the fact that
Speaker 2: I would have to make decisions about every single part
Speaker 2: of it, you know what I mean? That, Like my
Speaker 2: idea was just like I had this idea and I
Speaker 2: was like, I'll get this studio and we'll do this
Speaker 2: fun thing in there. But then you start getting it
Speaker 2: together and you realize it was like a thousand tiny
Speaker 2: decisions that need to be made.
Speaker 1: You consider yourself a decisive man.
Speaker 2: That just just I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't know if you were doing a bit just now.
Speaker 1: I was like, are you with me or no, that's
Speaker 1: an organic bit. Okay, So no, I'm not, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not. There are things I feel strongly about. I'm opinionated.
Speaker 2: I was opinionating decisive. No, I'm trying.
Speaker 1: I'm really trying to think about what the differences between
Speaker 1: opinionated and I feel like decisive is when you have
Speaker 1: the confidence to back up all of your opinion. Yet
Speaker 1: because opinions free opinions, you just have them right, they
Speaker 1: are in your brain.
Speaker 2: They don't necessarily like drive your life or the world
Speaker 2: in one direction or another. The thoughts are just thoughts,
Speaker 2: their thoughts. I have very clear, defined thoughts about things
Speaker 2: that I'm willing to change, of course, But but but
Speaker 2: you know, instinct wise, I have strong opinions. Decisions much
Speaker 2: more difficult for me.
Speaker 1: But there's a did you feel like a very small
Speaker 1: gap between the opinions and the decisions, especially when it
Speaker 1: comes to like design, like you obviously like, okay, if
Speaker 1: you have a lot of opinions, I assume you have
Speaker 1: a lot of opinions about that's what design of your
Speaker 1: place should look.
Speaker 2: That's very true. And I and and I make those
Speaker 2: decisions pretty quickly. So I don't know. Now I'm second guessing.
Speaker 2: Maybe I am.
Speaker 1: You're decisive about your own decisive. Holy we just started
Speaker 1: and we're already I therapy, get going.
Speaker 2: I need real therapy, I think, Yeah, I have a
Speaker 2: couple of times, a couple of times, and I would
Speaker 2: like to continue going. But I have I have yet
Speaker 2: to find a therapist who really who I jive with.
Speaker 1: You know, do you have anything you you might be
Speaker 1: looking for in particular, like when you think about someone
Speaker 1: who might be who might jive well with you?
Speaker 2: No, not, I mean it's more just like a It's
Speaker 2: like a feeling, isn't it. I would hope that like
Speaker 2: it's like I'm talking with this person and I feel
Speaker 2: like they genuinely, even if they don't understand that, they
Speaker 2: genuinely empathize and can have a back and forth with
Speaker 2: me in a way that feels natural. Sure, and that
Speaker 2: feels helpful, I suppose, and I just haven't found that.
Speaker 2: Of had a couple therapists, you know, for a couple.
Speaker 1: Of weeks, you say, oh right, we forgot to go
Speaker 1: live on Reddit. We're not ready, We're not I forgot
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 2: Live on Reddit.
Speaker 1: Everybody give us just a moment on Reddit. That's you
Speaker 1: and I were both we're we're children, and I read it.
Speaker 2: We both started doing our ship on. That's right. I
Speaker 2: owe my pretty much my entire career to read it.
Speaker 1: Dude, I owe my entire career.
Speaker 2: Like our videos are cringe, I owe my career. Do
Speaker 2: you read it? All?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: We I think we're on.
Speaker 4: We're on?
Speaker 2: Is anything else wrong? Are we all?
Speaker 1: We're good?
Speaker 2: Oh man, we are up and running. We're up and running. Hello, Reddit?
Speaker 2: Read it?
Speaker 1: Have you?
Speaker 2: Have you streamed on? You? You stream on our pan?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: I didn't even, to be honest with you, I didn't
Speaker 2: know it was still happening. I thought it was like
Speaker 2: a social experiment that they did.
Speaker 1: That's how it started. But it still it started as like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're going to do this for a month, and then
Speaker 1: I think they just kept it and really yeah, and
Speaker 1: my I, like I said, my whole thing is that's
Speaker 1: where I started streaming, and.
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, you know that's awesome. Yeah. Our pan was awesome.
Speaker 2: I mean I remember it happened during the pandemic, didn't
Speaker 2: it when it I think when they started it when
Speaker 2: they started putting it up, and it was this thing
Speaker 2: where you would get on it and stream and all
Speaker 2: of the same was it was kind of like TikTok
Speaker 2: and that it would propel someone who is doing something
Speaker 2: like half interesting, from like five watchers to like fifty
Speaker 2: thousand yeah. Yeah, and it was just this insane audience
Speaker 2: that if you managed to get on while it was happening,
Speaker 2: while the feature was enabled, yeah, then you could really
Speaker 2: like you could get some massive viewers. Yeah. That was
Speaker 2: that was me.
Speaker 1: I went on right after like there would be a
Speaker 1: guy filming chickens yeah yeah, or something like something along
Speaker 1: those lines, and it'd be fifty thousand people watching this
Speaker 1: guy filming his chickens. Yeah, and I would I would
Speaker 1: take some of the chicken attention, siphon it off into
Speaker 1: what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: Get the chickens over here, yeah, chicken people over there.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah That's that's what I did too. I
Speaker 2: what I rely on my on the people who watched
Speaker 2: me to sort of alert me to this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: So I would get a couple of dms that were like,
Speaker 2: Mark Arpan is live right now, You've got to go
Speaker 2: on it. So I was like in the middle. I
Speaker 2: was like high and watching something like I gotta stop everything.
Speaker 2: I hook up my sound ship, I put my phone
Speaker 2: up here, and I get on our pan and I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: it just like did incredible things for my viewership.
Speaker 1: So so, so you get high, you're a green guy.
Speaker 2: I'm a bit very much agree do you? Uh?
Speaker 1: Do you get high while you stream and while you
Speaker 1: like work and stuff?
Speaker 2: I'll tell you I get high occasionally while I stream. Okay,
Speaker 2: because there's something about that that vibe in my in
Speaker 2: my apartment. It helps you say it definitely can. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: I think it does at shows. Never I made that
Speaker 2: mistake a couple of times early in my touring life.
Speaker 2: What did that feel like? Dude? It I played this
Speaker 2: show in Uh? Is it cool? If I put my
Speaker 2: get go foot whatever you then we.
Speaker 1: Look a little bit like a you can It's like
Speaker 1: a leap frog stand.
Speaker 2: That's I'm gonna I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get banned for this one, but you go ahead.
Speaker 2: Is that all right?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Please please?
Speaker 2: That's good. That's where it feel. Yeah, I feel good.
Speaker 2: I feel good good. I'll tell you this show in
Speaker 2: Indianapolis I did. I think it was like maybe my
Speaker 2: first or second show touring show ever. So I just
Speaker 2: started touring. This was twenty eighteen, and and I get
Speaker 2: up on the stage and it's a really high energy room.
Speaker 2: People are squay. It's like a really good feeling in there,
Speaker 2: really enjoying myself. Halfway through the show, this guy in
Speaker 2: the front hands me a vape pen and I'm like, fuck, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's do you know. I take the va I take
Speaker 2: a little hit. And the thing about the vape pens
Speaker 2: is you never really know how tight or loose like
Speaker 2: the draw is gonna be. Yeah, And so I hit
Speaker 2: it and it was just this absurd hit, absurd hit.
Speaker 2: I'm just a cloud. And all of a sudden, I
Speaker 2: realize that I'm standing on a stage and there's hundreds
Speaker 2: of people expecting me to die some thing. Yes, and
Speaker 2: so my whole ship I'm just And it was like
Speaker 2: a basically a mini panic attack. I pulled through, I mean,
Speaker 2: finished the show, but it was horrible. It was just
Speaker 2: an awful thing.
Speaker 1: I feel like in order to do things like like
Speaker 1: what we're doing now and being on stage, like you,
Speaker 1: you have to not be thinking about the fact that
Speaker 1: you are being watched.
Speaker 2: True, that's a.
Speaker 1: Very like you know, the flow state, right, So you
Speaker 1: have to be like in the flow state. You can't
Speaker 1: be thinking too much. Mech That's why I don't get
Speaker 1: high when I do this, because if I did, I'd
Speaker 1: be like, oh God, there's how many other people.
Speaker 2: You got you start thinking about. But it's good when
Speaker 2: you're alone, Like when I'm on stream alone. I tend
Speaker 2: to find that if there's no one else in the room,
Speaker 2: it really does put me into an interesting place. I
Speaker 2: find I come up with cool stuff. But it just
Speaker 2: doesn't work when there's other people there and you and
Speaker 2: you're you're on the spot and you have to like
Speaker 2: do something creatively. At least for me. I think it
Speaker 2: works for a lot of other people. A lot of
Speaker 2: the other people are happy to get high and do shit,
Speaker 2: But I just can't reconcile it for some reason.
Speaker 1: You know, I've decided that this is the one stream
Speaker 1: where like I say, sometimes I just won't do anything.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll just sit in silence. I'll stare at the
Speaker 1: camera a little bit, if I if I, if I
Speaker 1: need to, Hey, you want to take some calls?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it. I'm very excited. I'm very excited
Speaker 2: to talk to people. It's been a while since I've
Speaker 2: talked to some lovely callers. Hello.
Speaker 1: Hello, Sarah from New York, twenty two years old. How
Speaker 1: are you doing.
Speaker 5: I'm good. I just got some back from class.
Speaker 2: Guys doing doing very well, Sarah. It's lovely to hear
Speaker 2: your voice. How is class?
Speaker 5: It was long, but I'm glad it's over. We had
Speaker 5: a lecture.
Speaker 2: Anything interesting going on in that lecture.
Speaker 5: It was a lecture about structures and this guy named
Speaker 5: Felix Candela, who was a very famous Spanish designer who
Speaker 5: made these ultra thin shell structures in Mexico.
Speaker 2: Did you find that interesting?
Speaker 5: I did? I really did good. It had a lot
Speaker 5: to do with the project I'm working on for one
Speaker 5: of my other classes.
Speaker 1: Well, Sarah, it says here speaking of class, that you
Speaker 1: have a professor who you say, is constantly over sharing
Speaker 1: about other teachers and staff. There gossiping around. They're talking
Speaker 1: about who is sleeping with whom, and you find this
Speaker 1: to be wildly inapprogram Do you want to tell us
Speaker 1: more about this?
Speaker 5: Yeah, So she's the professor that I'm doing this other
Speaker 5: project for, and it's a very small school, so word
Speaker 5: gets around and essentially when we kind of meet for class,
Speaker 5: we kind of start talking, and then she we break
Speaker 5: up into smaller groups and she visits each one of
Speaker 5: us individually. We kind of update her on our progress,
Speaker 5: and she always starts spinning wildly out of control, sharing
Speaker 5: about these professors, these other faculty members that I've had previously,
Speaker 5: and telling us about things that they were said, you know,
Speaker 5: in private, like just.
Speaker 2: Like is is I guess my question was go ahead, please,
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to interrupt you, go right ahead.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 5: My question would be in a professional relationship between a
Speaker 5: student and a professor where she has kind of complete
Speaker 5: control over my success in this course and my ability
Speaker 5: to move on with my education, Like what is the
Speaker 5: best way to kind of handle this situation? Whereas like
Speaker 5: I don't want to you know, ruin any opportunities that
Speaker 5: may you know, come from this in the future, whether
Speaker 5: it be a job or a teaching position, but like
Speaker 5: it's making me uncomfortable. Sometimes she's talking about her own
Speaker 5: trauma with the pandemic or her childhood.
Speaker 2: Like can I ask you, is is she an influential
Speaker 2: professor for you? In other words, you know, would she
Speaker 2: Are you worried that if if, if you were to
Speaker 2: sort of say anything about this or ruffle some feathers
Speaker 2: that you know that she would be able to impact
Speaker 2: your career in the future in some way.
Speaker 5: I would say. So, it's a small profession in the
Speaker 5: way that like a lot of these faculty members are
Speaker 5: practitioners in the field, and they speak to each other,
Speaker 5: you know, casually over drinks or so on, and that
Speaker 5: a small school like the school I go to very frequently,
Speaker 5: like students are obviously discussed over, like you know, drinks
Speaker 5: after after class that day with between the faculty. So
Speaker 5: it's concerning in the way that I don't want to
Speaker 5: like seem unrecepted.
Speaker 1: What what is what is the wildest thing that this
Speaker 1: teacher has told you?
Speaker 2: I'm dying to know.
Speaker 5: So I think she was a refugee from war in
Speaker 5: the Eastern Europe and a story she told me.
Speaker 1: That's a lot different from like thought I thought I
Speaker 1: was like gossip about like who's sleep.
Speaker 2: I don't know the story about being a refugee hole
Speaker 2: war story right right?
Speaker 5: No, it's like an insane like variety of things that
Speaker 5: she talks about. It feels as that she doesn't really
Speaker 5: have any personal friends to kind of like have it
Speaker 5: as an outlet, and she kind of dumps it on students,
Speaker 5: but like kind of like more of the saucy stuff
Speaker 5: is like I don't really feel comfortable discussing.
Speaker 1: Uh, okay, have you told her that you don't feel
Speaker 1: comfortable discussing this stuff with her?
Speaker 5: No, I'm just afraid to. I guess what do.
Speaker 2: The other students think?
Speaker 5: I mean, you know how students kind of like joke
Speaker 5: on their own, like it's it's kind of like she's
Speaker 5: notorious for this, and like it's not. I'm not the
Speaker 5: only person that it's happened to, and so you kind
Speaker 5: of make jokes about it, like, oh, did you hear
Speaker 5: what she says this day or whatever?
Speaker 1: So do you feel like you're having more of a
Speaker 1: problem with it than they are?
Speaker 5: Can you repeat that?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're having more of a problem
Speaker 1: with it than the other students are?
Speaker 2: It seems like it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe maybe, maybe I think so.
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a tough predicament. You know, I
Speaker 2: don't know what I would do in that situation, because, like,
Speaker 2: you should not in an academic environment feel uncomfortable, particularly
Speaker 2: with someone who's like you're superior, who's supposed to be
Speaker 2: teaching you. That's not it. You should not feel that
Speaker 2: way in that kind of dynamic. That's not good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: at the same time, Okay, but but hold on though,
Speaker 2: because I don't think. No, here's what it is. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't give a shit about this person's ability to affect
Speaker 2: your career in the future. That is less. I just
Speaker 2: feel like that's less a concern than this person saying
Speaker 2: some really outrageous shit to their students that they really
Speaker 2: shouldn't be saying as a teacher, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like that, that's that's an issue, and you could not
Speaker 2: only help solve that for yourself, but also for future classes.
Speaker 2: Like maybe she doesn't even know that what she's saying
Speaker 2: is true. She could be.
Speaker 1: Of the fact that she's making people uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, maybe she just needs to be educated school.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess I do just have to kind of
Speaker 5: bring it up to her and ask if she's aware.
Speaker 2: I think that's the way to go. It's like, you
Speaker 2: don't have to go through the whole school system and
Speaker 2: make a big fuss about it, but maybe personally to her,
Speaker 2: you never know. She might be I mean, she might
Speaker 2: be grateful. She might be like, man, I didn't know
Speaker 2: that I was over sharing or that making people uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: She might not even realize.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my thoughts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sarah, I mean, what do you think you'll do
Speaker 1: moving forward?
Speaker 5: Well, I'll see her on Thursday, and I think, oh god,
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess I should just bring it up
Speaker 5: to her in a private and a casual method and
Speaker 5: ask if she needs maybe an outlet in a different manner.
Speaker 1: Maybe she needs approaching the situation with some genuine kindness.
Speaker 2: I like this, I like one hundred. I think that's
Speaker 2: the way to go. And also I would try and
Speaker 2: remember that this is not you know, I know it's
Speaker 2: going to be nerve wracking to approach her. Obviously that's
Speaker 2: a weird thing. It's a weird situation. But I would
Speaker 2: try and remember that it's not that big a deal.
Speaker 2: It's someone leveling with someone else. Student teacher, employee. But whatever,
Speaker 2: you're just saying, Hey, this is a little weird for
Speaker 2: me human to human. You know, I just want to
Speaker 2: let you know. And it's you know, I wouldn't. It's
Speaker 2: not that big a deal. You know, she needs to know,
Speaker 2: she needs to know, Sarah.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to me,
Speaker 1: Mark or the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 5: Not really. Thank you guys so much, and I hope
Speaker 5: you have a wonderful night.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for calling Sarah. Thanks Sarah, good night,
Speaker 2: night night. Don't you dare let the bed bugs bite?
Speaker 1: Okay, see, maybe this is just me, but if and
Speaker 1: to each their own.
Speaker 2: Everyone has their own level of comfortable with other stuff.
Speaker 1: But like I and maybe this is just my nature
Speaker 1: of what I do here, but I'm always honored when
Speaker 1: people open up to me.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh I thought you were gonna say about
Speaker 2: bed bugs.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I don't. I don't think I have
Speaker 1: anything at all to say about bed buddy.
Speaker 2: Well fuck them, really fuck them, don't let them bite
Speaker 2: pretty much. But when people open up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I feel I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: just like, it's a weird experience.
Speaker 2: I agree, I feel like an obligation to really listen
Speaker 2: and support and try and work through it in whatever
Speaker 2: stupid way we can. You know, it's it feels I
Speaker 2: feel immediately like there's like a some sort of uh
Speaker 2: burden is the wrong words. It's like obligation. It's still
Speaker 2: the duty duty, dude, there's a duty bestowed on us
Speaker 2: this second someone opens up.
Speaker 1: Like that, right right, or you feel like you have
Speaker 1: to be and and you know, Sarah, I have a
Speaker 1: lot of respect for her because she clearly has high
Speaker 1: moral standards, because a lot of people, probably me included,
Speaker 1: would also be like, damn, what's the tea? I know,
Speaker 1: I'm just like I would be like sitting there, like,
Speaker 1: please tell me more about which professor is sleeping with her,
Speaker 1: just for like, but she she would rather hear about
Speaker 1: the Spanish architect. That's what she paid to go to
Speaker 1: school to hear about. So I respect her.
Speaker 2: For student self respect. Yeah, not something I know anything about.
Speaker 2: Were you what was your God? I dropped out. I
Speaker 2: went to college for acting for a year and I
Speaker 2: dropped out. Okay, that was it. How was the year?
Speaker 1: Did you learn anything that you currently use in your
Speaker 1: regular life?
Speaker 2: Well? Uh, you know, no, no, but I did. I
Speaker 2: did make some of my best friends there. That's definitely
Speaker 2: a big takeaway. That's helpful. Are you in any debt? No,
Speaker 2: I paid it all off. Well, my parents paid off
Speaker 2: like half of it, and then I paid off the rest.
Speaker 2: And I should reimburse my mom for that, now, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Wouldn't that be nice? A nice
Speaker 2: little Christmas present?
Speaker 1: It's nice to think about things, are you Are you
Speaker 1: actually gonna do it?
Speaker 2: I certainly could.
Speaker 1: I like thinking about like nice things that.
Speaker 2: The yeah do, but never never did because because the.
Speaker 1: Good feeling, because you know how like you do something
Speaker 1: nice and you can do that feeling. You can just
Speaker 1: get that feeling by just saying that you're just thinking
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: You know. I should Uh, yeah, I should really donate
Speaker 2: to unis stuff. Yeah, that'd be nice. Anyway, I need whiskey.
Speaker 1: No, let's see what's going on in the queue here.
Speaker 2: Bethany from Ohio. Bethany from Ohio. Yeah, what's up? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hill to hear Bethany from Ohio.
Speaker 2: I've never been able to hear you better, Bethany. It's true.
Speaker 1: Being connected together on the phone has increased our ability
Speaker 1: to hear one another more than before.
Speaker 2: I feel like this is more of a human interaction
Speaker 2: than I have with most people.
Speaker 1: Bethany, Uh, Bethany, Can I read here? What it says
Speaker 1: on the computer? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Sure?
Speaker 1: Says here that you've been doing tarot readings as a
Speaker 1: job for five years, but your boyfriend slash baby daddy
Speaker 1: is not supportive of you. Says he makes enough money
Speaker 1: to support both of you. Guys, but you want your
Speaker 1: own independence. Is accurate?
Speaker 6: Be me and my boyfriend about another like nine years
Speaker 6: and we have a child together. I've been interested in
Speaker 6: tara for five years and I want to because I'm
Speaker 6: my friends.
Speaker 4: I really think I'm good at it, and I.
Speaker 7: Really thoroughly enjoying it. It's like a lot.
Speaker 4: So it's something I really want to do. And my
Speaker 4: boyfriend's just really against it.
Speaker 8: He just doesn't like taro.
Speaker 7: He thinks that kind of stuff is silly.
Speaker 2: What doesn't he like about it? Has he expressed to
Speaker 2: you what he doesn't like?
Speaker 4: Oh, he just doesn't believe in it.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 2: You know. Here's my thing, and I get it. Here's
Speaker 2: here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Is like, Look, it's one thing if your boyfriend doesn't
Speaker 1: believe in it, But it's another thing if he because,
Speaker 1: like whatever, he can't force himself to believe in anything.
Speaker 1: But it's another thing if he's consistently going out of
Speaker 1: his way to be a dick about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you don't have to believe in it,
Speaker 2: but he could still support yours what you believing in it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and not that I think.
Speaker 4: So it's like basically, do I make myself happy or
Speaker 4: do I make my boyfriend happy.
Speaker 8: And leave any other nine minutes?
Speaker 2: Like I said, is is that where it's at right now?
Speaker 2: Or I mean, are you between those two choices? Do
Speaker 2: you feel like it's it's teeter tottering like that?
Speaker 4: Well, well, I'm gonna stay at home mom with our
Speaker 4: daughter with now, and I'm just very aware of how
Speaker 4: the prossed I can get. And I feel like I
Speaker 4: need some sort of career or I need something to
Speaker 4: make me feel happy outside of being a mom. And
Speaker 4: so I feel I need something. And this is something
Speaker 4: I really love, you know, and I wanted to give
Speaker 4: it to like sewing and clothes making.
Speaker 7: But that's really hard with Tapper.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like learning that stuff and doing that Taro.
Speaker 4: I already know it, Like I can do that with
Speaker 4: her around like it's something that's like really easy to do,
Speaker 4: and that's something I love.
Speaker 2: I think not only do you need something like that,
Speaker 2: you deserve something like that. Everyone should have something in
Speaker 2: their life, you know, outside of whatever their familial responsibilities
Speaker 2: or their home life that brings them joy, brings them pleasure.
Speaker 2: If Tarot is that for you, you should absolutely pursue it,
Speaker 2: regardless of what this joker thinks about it. Excuse my language,
Speaker 2: but you know, come on, is he well? Can I
Speaker 2: ask Bethany real quick? Can I ask? Can I ask
Speaker 2: my friend behind?
Speaker 1: Is that Bethany? When when your boyfriend is when you
Speaker 1: say he's not supportive of you, what kind of like
Speaker 1: language is he using?
Speaker 2: Is he is he like telling you to stop?
Speaker 1: Is he like saying, hey, cut that shit out because
Speaker 1: you got to take care of our kid? Like how
Speaker 1: is he approaching? Because, like I said, it's one thing
Speaker 1: if he doesn't believe in it, like you know whatever,
Speaker 1: But it's a totally other thing if he's like trying
Speaker 1: to get you to stop or or or control what
Speaker 1: you're doing.
Speaker 7: Right, like like he doesn't want me, Like so I'm
Speaker 7: going to make.
Speaker 4: Money from this and you can make like thirty dollars
Speaker 4: for fifteen minutes or fifty for thirty minutes, Like you
Speaker 4: can really set the price at whatever you want. I'm
Speaker 4: not trying to like, he says, it's like ripping people off.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm the type of person that if you
Speaker 4: like call me with Tara reading like, I'm not going
Speaker 4: to try to put you off. I'm going to try
Speaker 4: to hell be like similar to what you do. But
Speaker 4: like with Taro, and it's like he just I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: I'm getting lost in my.
Speaker 9: Words on harvest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: I just feel like he doesn't.
Speaker 4: I feel like he's like doesn't want me to talk
Speaker 4: about it around him. He doesn't want me to do
Speaker 4: it around him. Like, if I do it, he tells
Speaker 4: me that, like that's not important to be doing that.
Speaker 2: Man, that's some shitty belittling energy right there. That's some
Speaker 2: I don't like that. I just don't like that. I
Speaker 2: don't like that, dude. It's something, it doesn't matter what
Speaker 2: it is. It could be Taro, it could be astrophysics.
Speaker 2: It's making you happy and it's something you want to pursue.
Speaker 4: And he's I know it doesn't seem real.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, but that's not even. The point is
Speaker 2: that if he loves you and he cares about your
Speaker 2: happiness and this is one of the things that brings
Speaker 2: you that happiness, he should be supportive of that. He
Speaker 2: shouldn't be belittling it or telling you that it's stupid.
Speaker 2: That's just really not a nice thing to do to someone.
Speaker 1: See, if you really love someone, you will just really,
Speaker 1: like I feel, you can just feel really deeply in
Speaker 1: your heart that their hobby is stupid, but then never
Speaker 1: but never let it leave the heart.
Speaker 2: It's it just is a it's like a kindness thing, dude,
Speaker 2: and it's like a love thing. Like he I just
Speaker 2: feel like it's you should not feel small for doing
Speaker 2: something that brings you joy. You should feel good about that.
Speaker 2: And the fact that he doesn't, that he's like actively
Speaker 2: working against that is just kind of sucks. And I'm
Speaker 2: sorry that you're that you're dealing with that. That's that's
Speaker 2: a poopy thing, you know what I mean. We don't
Speaker 2: want a poopy thing here. I don't know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't have an answer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just you know, relationship stuff is always hard
Speaker 1: because I'm never gonna tell anybody, Uh, you know what
Speaker 1: to do with the big decisions. But I I think
Speaker 1: Mark and I both agree this is not cool behavior.
Speaker 2: It's definitely not you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, you should be empowered to do whatever the
Speaker 1: fuck it is that you want to do and not
Speaker 1: be following the whim of you know this guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I I just you know, it's it's
Speaker 2: a tough thing to reconcile. It's like, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know, I I don't really I
Speaker 2: hesitate to give you any sort of thoughts beyond that,
Speaker 2: because then it feels like I'm trying to give you
Speaker 2: like advice, which I'm not qualified to give. I feel
Speaker 2: like it's just I just want you to know that
Speaker 2: I don't like the way that that makes me feel,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure you don't like the way that it
Speaker 2: makes you feel either.
Speaker 1: How do you What do you think about everything that
Speaker 1: that we've been saying, Bethany, I.
Speaker 4: Just like, really like what to do from here? Like
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna I don't want to break up with him,
Speaker 4: like that's not I.
Speaker 7: Just want to be able to be happy.
Speaker 1: Have you I'll say this much.
Speaker 2: Have you told.
Speaker 1: Him directly how it makes you feel when he talks
Speaker 1: to you like this.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like he It's just it's like basically so
Speaker 4: like he knows.
Speaker 10: So it's basically like.
Speaker 4: I could go ahead and do what I need to
Speaker 4: do and like do what I want to do, but
Speaker 4: like it's going to be understood that I'm not going
Speaker 4: to get support from him and he's going to be
Speaker 4: upset about it.
Speaker 2: Okay, so he's like, yeah, go ahead, stupid ship.
Speaker 7: Like I can do it, but he's going to be
Speaker 7: an asshole like any time to bring it up, Like
Speaker 7: like if I'm like, hey, have you watched the beat
Speaker 7: like for a second so I can like do this,
Speaker 7: He's not probably going to be supportive of it. So
Speaker 7: it's like it's recently just like picking myself a man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean I I would be like, yo,
Speaker 2: this is this is serious, even though you think it's
Speaker 2: a joke or stupid. The way you know, I like Taro.
Speaker 2: I like doing it. It makes me feel good, and
Speaker 2: I really need you to like not treat it as
Speaker 2: though it's stupid just for me, you know, because yeah
Speaker 2: he should. You got you really got to tell him.
Speaker 2: If he's not willing to do that, then I think
Speaker 2: that speaks to something pretty fundamental that might need some
Speaker 2: some work. You know, I don't know, but but should
Speaker 2: meet you there.
Speaker 1: He should be you know, Bethany, Like you know, I
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope by the end of the day
Speaker 1: you do whatever is best for your own personal likewise
Speaker 1: personal happiness and like like we said, all right, we're
Speaker 1: not gonna tell you what to do, but I just hope.
Speaker 1: I I just hope you think really hard about what
Speaker 1: will make you happy and really consider all your different options.
Speaker 1: You deserve it, and I just you deserve it, and
Speaker 1: I hope you pick the right one.
Speaker 8: Definitely.
Speaker 4: And I really really appreciate your time and your niceness
Speaker 4: and honesty.
Speaker 1: Thank you, of course, Bethany. You have a good rest
Speaker 1: of the night.
Speaker 2: Have a lovely night, Bethany.
Speaker 1: Bye bye.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, fuck god, damn we are.
Speaker 1: It's really hard. It's super hard because.
Speaker 2: Like I love this listen, I'm at home right, good good,
Speaker 2: it's dude ship Like that is so hard because obviously
Speaker 2: everybody listening and everybody in the chat wants to tell
Speaker 2: this person fucking break up with your boyfriend.
Speaker 1: And I want to I want to tell fucking breakup
Speaker 1: with it. But it's like, but I but deep in
Speaker 1: my heart, I'm like, I'm like echo guy.
Speaker 2: And then I've known this person for ten minutes and
Speaker 2: they tell me what it is is. You know. It's
Speaker 2: so much more subtle than that. It's like, it's not
Speaker 2: the like as a comment, you could be like, fuck
Speaker 2: that dude, get the fuck out right. But then it's like,
Speaker 2: but I can't just beg and fuck that dude.
Speaker 1: Get make a major I can't just be like, make
Speaker 1: a major life decision, all right, I gotta keep going
Speaker 1: with my street.
Speaker 2: It's so much more subtle. This is life we're talking about.
Speaker 2: She lives with this dude. She probably loves him very much.
Speaker 2: They have a whole thing together. They've had a whole
Speaker 2: thing that for years. Probably.
Speaker 1: I feel so bad for her, And I feel bad
Speaker 1: for anybody who's like, and do we get we get
Speaker 1: calls like this all the time. Like I see people
Speaker 1: just in real life, like this other time, who like
Speaker 1: they're in some kind of relationship that's like defining them.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 1: It's it's so painful to see.
Speaker 2: That is tough, man. It's tough because you know, and
Speaker 2: that's why it's another reason why I hesitated to give,
Speaker 2: to give like concrete advice to hers, because I have
Speaker 2: not been in a serious relationship and almost ten years now.
Speaker 2: Yeah really yeah, yoh hey, by the way, chim Chin
Speaker 2: forgot about that to that my dud life is easier
Speaker 2: this way. I'll tell you guys that right now. But
Speaker 2: at the same time, a relationship can bring you an
Speaker 2: enormous amount of support and joy and comfort and and
Speaker 2: and love, stuff that obviously everyone needs and wants, you know.
Speaker 2: And so I would never judge someone for being in
Speaker 2: a relationship, even if it's even if it's one that
Speaker 2: is going through something, you know, if they're going through
Speaker 2: something difficult. I just maybe this is a rough patch,
Speaker 2: maybe it can be worked out, Maybe there's a way
Speaker 2: to work through it. That's why you always try that
Speaker 2: before just saying fuck this piece of shit. That's why.
Speaker 1: That's why we were trying to be like, Okay, have
Speaker 1: you like expressed to him all your feelings? And then
Speaker 1: she said yes, I did, and I didn't like that
Speaker 1: I did, And he was like, She's like, she didn't
Speaker 1: just say yeah.
Speaker 2: She was like oh yeah, She's like, oh yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Feel I feel bad for I really hope, I wish
Speaker 1: I could like send her some sort of energy blast
Speaker 1: of whatever awareness or confidence to make the the right decision.
Speaker 2: It sounds like if the dude isn't going to give
Speaker 2: her that, it's such a simple thing to be like, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: do your thing, love, I love you for that. What
Speaker 2: do you think? Real quick?
Speaker 1: I think this is the thing I think about a
Speaker 1: lot on this stream, like.
Speaker 2: What do you should? I try to be like pretty neutron.
Speaker 1: I think sometimes I do, like tell people to do unconsciously,
Speaker 1: and I forget about it. Lately, I've been having it
Speaker 1: more in my head, like don't tell people what to do,
Speaker 1: just talk through it, huh.
Speaker 2: But sometimes I'm like, should I tell people what shouldn't?
Speaker 2: Should we have? Did we have some sort of duty
Speaker 2: to be? Like break up with your boyfriend?
Speaker 1: But then I also weigh that against the whole thing
Speaker 1: like that we were just talking about it, Like right,
Speaker 1: she's living with this fucking it's so much easier said
Speaker 1: than done. We're doing a little I mean twitch stream thing.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna drop a fucking life decision on her.
Speaker 2: Out right, well, I I mean, I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: It's it's possible that both are true. That like it
Speaker 2: depends on the severity of the thing. You know, it
Speaker 2: sounds like this is not like well, I mean, it's
Speaker 2: certainly a kind of abuse. It's a kind of abuse.
Speaker 2: It's a kind of like psychological abuse of like what
Speaker 2: you're doing is small and stupid and I don't respect it.
Speaker 2: And if you need time away to do that thing,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make a stink about it, and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: make you feel small. And that's shitty, that's shitty behavior.
Speaker 2: It's my instinct is to say, get rid of that
Speaker 2: piece of shit. But at the same time.
Speaker 1: We don't. We don't have all the context context.
Speaker 2: I don't know both are true. Maybe we're right.
Speaker 1: Hey, there's a guy here who drinks milk too much.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, maybe maybe we'll just do that one. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's get milk guy, milk man. Hello, Riley.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how are you, Riley? I'm good, Riley. It says
Speaker 1: here that you're twenty one years old and that you
Speaker 1: consume a lot of milk, like five cartons of milk
Speaker 1: for lunch AM and PM. How first of all, how
Speaker 1: big are these cartons?
Speaker 11: I mean, it's just like the carton of milk that
Speaker 11: you would get like in high school, but like I'm
Speaker 11: in college now and there's like a buffet and like
Speaker 11: I put that shit in my pocket and walk away
Speaker 11: with it.
Speaker 2: Are these Is it like a pint you're talking about? No,
Speaker 2: you're talking about the little like the box cartons that
Speaker 2: like they look like an old school carton of milk,
Speaker 2: but they're like small sort of cubes. Is that what
Speaker 2: you're talking about?
Speaker 9: Right right, right right.
Speaker 2: And so okay, and so tell us your diet. Tell
Speaker 2: us throughout any given day, like today, what was your
Speaker 2: milk diet?
Speaker 11: I mean like well, like today was like I didn't
Speaker 11: have schools, Like I like splurged a little bit and
Speaker 11: got like a quart of chocolate milk on top of
Speaker 11: like the normal amount of milk that I drink.
Speaker 2: It was more than more than usual when you're not
Speaker 2: in school.
Speaker 1: So just the how much of the milk is chocolate?
Speaker 1: That's what I was kind of because because I didn't,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I feel like the type of milk is
Speaker 1: a factor here.
Speaker 11: Right, well, like chocolate milk, like usually it's just like
Speaker 11: two percent milk, but like on on, like I don't know.
Speaker 11: Sometimes when I'm just like feeling the mood, I like
Speaker 11: splurge and get some chocolate milk. So like today, it's
Speaker 11: not very often. It's like probably like once the week,
Speaker 11: prick chocolate.
Speaker 2: Dude feels pretty often.
Speaker 1: What's what's your what's your thing on strawberry milk? Oh?
Speaker 2: Nah nah, man, you can't catch fu fuck strawberry milk.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't funk with strawberry milk at all. I don't
Speaker 1: know who's out there drinking.
Speaker 2: It dirty garbage as far as.
Speaker 1: All right, so tell us all right, So so let's
Speaker 1: see Mark asked you what your diet was like, and
Speaker 1: were you asking him his milk diet or just his
Speaker 1: overall like what's because I'm also a little bit curious what's.
Speaker 2: Going on around the milk. Yeah, that's true. And and
Speaker 2: and also do you consider it to be like has
Speaker 2: it caused any sort of physical issues? Yeah? So you
Speaker 2: know that's a lot of milk to be putting in
Speaker 2: a one body, right.
Speaker 11: Well, Like I usually like plan out with specifically the cartons,
Speaker 11: Like it's like a buffet that I go to and
Speaker 11: on campus, and like I get food and then I
Speaker 11: drink three cartons of milk with that, and then when
Speaker 11: I go back for dessert, I grab two other cartons
Speaker 11: of milk and drink it with the dessert.
Speaker 2: What does it do to you? What's the feeling?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 11: Man, I mean it's not good. Like when I was
Speaker 11: like in like kindergartener first grade, I was told I
Speaker 11: was lactose sensitive, and like, if I were to continue,
Speaker 11: like I'll be lactose intolerant, and like I shiit a lot,
Speaker 11: so like I'm worried I might actually be lactose intolerant.
Speaker 1: So like I don't know, Jesus, have you been to
Speaker 1: a doctor about this?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the yeah, and see what.
Speaker 11: It's from there, But like it's so good.
Speaker 2: Okay, but so okay, explain to us the talk us
Speaker 2: through the it's so good thing, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: What to talk us through the sweet process of ingesting
Speaker 2: milk for you? Tell us about that?
Speaker 11: Well, I like my friends made me because like I
Speaker 11: have like milk theory. I have a theory that men
Speaker 11: enjoy milk more than women because like I like my
Speaker 11: my female friends like get mad at me when I
Speaker 11: drink milk for like anything.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, suckling from mother's teeth. Perhaps that could be right.
Speaker 11: Right, Like I don't I don't want to dip into
Speaker 11: like Freud, but like he may have been onto something.
Speaker 1: You know, Riley, what is your relationship like with your mother? Oh?
Speaker 2: Great, it's good, it's healthy. You love each other.
Speaker 1: Did you did you breastfeed a lot as a child.
Speaker 11: I've been told I was breastfed, but I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 11: I don't think I was obviously consuming the amounts that
Speaker 11: I am today.
Speaker 2: Can I just say you didn't answer the question about
Speaker 2: medical issues as a result of the milk? Have you
Speaker 2: has anything happened? I mean, do you is it? What?
Speaker 2: What is there any cause for concern here? Is it
Speaker 2: just a personal concern that you're drinking too much milk?
Speaker 11: I think it's like both. I think like people like
Speaker 11: my friends think it's like a moral concern physically, like
Speaker 11: I just get like really bad cramps and like have
Speaker 11: to go to the bathroom a lot.
Speaker 1: Oh did you say moral concern the cow thing? Right?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask what's the moral or what's the
Speaker 1: moral concern? Like like it's bad for the for the animals,
Speaker 1: That's what I would guess.
Speaker 11: Well, like I don't, I don't know that they're like
Speaker 11: just like really concerned about like like I'm interested in,
Speaker 11: like I kind of want to drink like exotic milks.
Speaker 11: Like I went on a on a on a ramp
Speaker 11: one night about like the benefits of drinking water buffalo milk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you want you want to give us the
Speaker 1: the the thesis of the ramps, give us the skinny
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 11: I mean, Like, so I looked into it and like,
Speaker 11: water buffalo buff water buffalo milk is like the best
Speaker 11: milk that you can drink like nutrition wise.
Speaker 1: Ah, this is about to turn into the Joe Rogan experience.
Speaker 2: Have you sampled it?
Speaker 11: No? I looked into it in like the nearest place
Speaker 11: that you can get water buffalo milk in the United States,
Speaker 11: it's Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 11: Now what is it about two day shipping?
Speaker 1: What is it about water buffalo milk that is so
Speaker 1: nutritious from what you've from what you've researched.
Speaker 11: I don't really remember like the details.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 11: I think it's like a little thinner than like normal milk,
Speaker 11: So I mean it goes down a little easier.
Speaker 2: Hmm.
Speaker 1: Okay, So water buffalo milk, And what are there any
Speaker 1: other types of exotic milks that you are passionate about
Speaker 1: that we should know about rest.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 11: You know, I've heard uh, goat milk is the closest
Speaker 11: to breast milk, And I really don't want to try that.
Speaker 2: You don't you you don't like the thought of trying
Speaker 2: human breast milk. Nah. Okay, So it's not about that.
Speaker 2: It's not like a fetish thing. It's just a now okay.
Speaker 2: But here's where I'm a little bit confused. Is that
Speaker 2: you say that it makes you feel it makes your
Speaker 2: stomach feel weird, and it makes you shit a lot.
Speaker 2: So then where is the pleasure part of this? Or
Speaker 2: is it a masochistic exercise? Is it a self harm thing?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Where where's the pleasure in
Speaker 2: it for you? That's a good question.
Speaker 11: I don't know. It's just like I don't I don't
Speaker 11: drink like pop or like coffee or anything like that.
Speaker 11: I strictly drink like water and milk, And like, if
Speaker 11: I'm not feeling water, then I just go to milk.
Speaker 11: So maybe it's just like my drink palate isn't really like, uh,
Speaker 11: I don't. I don't have like a huge drink palate,
Speaker 11: And maybe that's it. But like, I don't know, It's
Speaker 11: like some day that just feels really good to wash
Speaker 11: down some food with two percent milk.
Speaker 1: But I mean this, we both we all know this
Speaker 1: is not a sustainable practice. Eventually your body is going
Speaker 1: to react.
Speaker 2: Violently, if not already doing so.
Speaker 1: Do you have any plans to do wean off of milk,
Speaker 1: because you're you're only heading towards greater hell.
Speaker 11: Uh, you know, I was hoping maybe like maybe getting water,
Speaker 11: buffalo milk. I'll drink it and I don't like it,
Speaker 11: and maybe that'll make me like be like, oh I
Speaker 11: don't want milk.
Speaker 1: No, you just have to feed your curiosity.
Speaker 2: That's what it is, right, Yeah, you know, I'm just
Speaker 2: it's I don't I'm trusting what a pleasure part is.
Speaker 2: It's not obviously there's pleasure in washing down. So I
Speaker 2: love washing down a nice cookie, a fine chocolate cookie
Speaker 2: with a little bit of two percent milk. I agree,
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with that, with that at all, But
Speaker 2: all day, you know, it just feels like a bizarre
Speaker 2: It's not just an alternative to water. I think for you,
Speaker 2: it's it feels like it's it's more of an obsession.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit more of sort of a comfort yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it sounds like you're totally fine
Speaker 2: with it and that it's not presenting any serious medical problems.
Speaker 2: So I don't really know if asking you to stop
Speaker 2: is I don't think it really matters.
Speaker 1: You know, it sounds like it sounds to me like
Speaker 1: you're gonna push it until until you can't anymore. Riley.
Speaker 9: I think.
Speaker 11: I think that's what a lot of my friends think.
Speaker 11: My friend actually wanted me to call in about this situation,
Speaker 11: hoping that maybe a get go on the computer would
Speaker 11: get through to me. But like, after talking to you, like,
Speaker 11: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's interesting. Stop drinking the fucking milk.
Speaker 1: I second that if that's your your friends sound like
Speaker 1: they were about to host some sort of intervention for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, Riley, damn Riley, you there listening? Yeah, stop
Speaker 2: drinking so much goddamn milk. Okay, cut it out. It's bizarre.
Speaker 2: It's a bizarre habit. I think you can drink a
Speaker 2: healthy amount, but it sounds like it's a little out
Speaker 2: of control and you should maybe try and replace some
Speaker 2: of the milk. I don't know, water, you know, goji berry,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Whatever why I would. I I would
Speaker 2: be more concerned.
Speaker 1: I'm more concerned about the milk than if he was, like,
Speaker 1: I'm drinking like two cans of Coca.
Speaker 2: Day or something.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's even though the coke's probably worse. I
Speaker 1: feel like the mill crew the milk.
Speaker 2: Is is is. It's just bizarre.
Speaker 1: But listen, Riley, thank you very much for calling and sharing.
Speaker 1: We wish you the best of luck in all your
Speaker 1: future endeavors. Is there anything else that you want to
Speaker 1: say to two geckos or to the rest of the
Speaker 1: computer before we go?
Speaker 11: Uh yeah, thank you for the intervention. I'm just gonna
Speaker 11: let my friends know online. I will try to be
Speaker 11: better about my milk consumption.
Speaker 1: Hey, we're rooting for you.
Speaker 2: That's the spirit you got this, my man. Take care.
Speaker 1: See if you're calling in about a toxic relationship. No
Speaker 1: direct advice, but milk, milk, milk. We will tell you.
Speaker 1: What's what?
Speaker 2: Oh, we're coming. We're coming for you. You know what.
Speaker 1: That conversation brought up something that I never thought about
Speaker 1: before in my life.
Speaker 2: Can you buy human breast milk?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, they're well, actually, you know, I don't know
Speaker 2: if it was a like an art project or something.
Speaker 2: But there was this site where you could buy like aristocratic,
Speaker 2: like white women's breast milk. Really yeah, and and it
Speaker 2: was like a fetish thing. But I don't know if
Speaker 2: it exists anymore, and maybe some people in the chat
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about, but it was, Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was like it was just a bizarre and I think
Speaker 2: it is a thing. It is a thing.
Speaker 1: It has to because there's no way they could make
Speaker 1: that illegal. Because if you're, you know, an adult woman
Speaker 1: and you make the conscious decision to sell your breast.
Speaker 2: Milk, right be allowed to.
Speaker 1: And then if you're an adult, if you're a person
Speaker 1: you want to buy breast mokey, you.
Speaker 2: Should be allowed to. Is it weird? It is? Has it?
Speaker 1: There has to have been at least one person, one
Speaker 1: startup somewhere that tried to get a brand, like a
Speaker 1: legitimate brand.
Speaker 2: Going what I'm talking about, to go into grocery stores.
Speaker 1: Oh god, happened at some point, whole foods.
Speaker 2: It's about a as whole as it gets a whole
Speaker 2: two percent. It's not two percent, it's one hundred percent
Speaker 2: mother's milk. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: Someone said Mark I had a flamingo themed birthday party
Speaker 1: in your honor?
Speaker 2: Is there a do you have a Flamingo thing? I have?
Speaker 2: I made up a flamingo song at at one of
Speaker 2: my drive in shows during the pandemic in twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: and uh it it it made the rounds, I guess,
Speaker 2: and yeah, flamingo. It was just about a flamingo that
Speaker 2: like kills people and eats your your children and your
Speaker 2: grandmother's eats your grandmother's pussy. You did you did? You
Speaker 2: did the drive in shows? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard of the drive with comedy. I heard
Speaker 1: that the drive in shows they honk to laugh, Yes,
Speaker 1: now what do they do with music?
Speaker 2: We were the first ones on the road to do
Speaker 2: that and then we got it well, I mean it
Speaker 2: wasn't my idea, it was my agent's idea, but they
Speaker 2: but yeah, they put me out on the road and
Speaker 2: it was like we did honking and we did you know,
Speaker 2: windshield wipers and shit and and yeah, basically just people
Speaker 2: just pulled up to a parking lot and I was
Speaker 2: in the back with like a green screen and cameras
Speaker 2: and then they projected the show onto the drive in
Speaker 2: theater screen and uh it was fun, I mean it
Speaker 2: was it was fun. It was a weird run of
Speaker 2: shows kind of cool to people, like participating in this
Speaker 2: weird part of history in that way. Yeah, dude, I
Speaker 2: mean it was Yeah, it was fun. People were I mean,
Speaker 2: there hadn't been shows in months at that point, and
Speaker 2: it was a nice way to connect with people in
Speaker 2: real life without like, you know, jeopardizing health too much.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a good thing that the pandemic is completely over.
Speaker 2: It's gone. It's done. I don't even know what that
Speaker 2: word means.
Speaker 1: And us that's it.
Speaker 2: It's been everyone and we have the world is one
Speaker 2: hundred percent back to normal. We did it. We won.
Speaker 2: We did it. Everybody. It's over.
Speaker 1: See what's going on in the queue here doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, it's I keep my sanity by thinking
Speaker 2: that because it's it's exhausting. It's just exhausting. We got
Speaker 2: anyone interesting.
Speaker 1: On the line, Yeah, tell me that. I'm looking around here.
Speaker 2: Let's see. Mm hmmm, Oh, just got a date with
Speaker 2: a girl hasn't dated since middle school. Talked to Jay Jay. Hi.
Speaker 1: Jay knew that we were gonna pick on him before
Speaker 1: he even what's up j doing?
Speaker 9: Man?
Speaker 2: Hey man, Jay, just coming right on with it with
Speaker 2: the intro coming right.
Speaker 1: In, JJ, what's what's what's crack of lacking with you?
Speaker 3: I mean sorry? It was a bit of delight and
Speaker 3: chilling watching the stream. I really thought that Riley guy
Speaker 3: was my own friend because he's obsessed with smoke.
Speaker 2: Jay.
Speaker 1: It says he you're twenty one years old, you just
Speaker 1: got a date with a girl, and you haven't been
Speaker 1: on a date since middle school, and you want to
Speaker 1: get some general date ideas. Is that when when you
Speaker 1: say date ideas, are you are you asking us about
Speaker 1: like date etiquette or like actual like ideas of things
Speaker 1: to do on a date.
Speaker 3: I guess a little bit of both, Like I kind
Speaker 3: of have an idea both her and I we go
Speaker 3: to our local arts school, so I was thinking, like, oh,
Speaker 3: we could go to a gallery. She can't eat pork,
Speaker 3: so I'm looking at restaurants that could accommodate for diet.
Speaker 2: Are you are you excited? Jay? Are you nervous? Are
Speaker 2: you excited? Tell us? How you tell us how you're feeling.
Speaker 2: Hold on a second, tell us about what's in your stomach?
Speaker 2: Are you excited? What's my Yeah? How are you feeling
Speaker 2: about it? You get nervous.
Speaker 3: I'm really excited. Ah, Like I haven't. I haven't dated
Speaker 3: since middle school, as you guys can tell. And I've
Speaker 3: been a very nervous person. I had a few bad
Speaker 3: like friendships, so it's made me very kind of like
Speaker 3: it is, I love like kind of opening myself.
Speaker 11: Up to people.
Speaker 3: But like she's been super nice. She's kind of just
Speaker 3: let me go off the walls talk about stuff I like.
Speaker 3: And I really like her.
Speaker 1: So I want I want to ask you, Uh, Jay,
Speaker 1: is there a reason in particular why you feel like
Speaker 1: you haven't been on a date since since middle school?
Speaker 1: Have you not been out there searching? Have you been
Speaker 1: focusing on other things? Has it just not lined up
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: What could you peg that too?
Speaker 3: It's a little it's kind of like I've been both
Speaker 3: very closed off and like I'm trans. So in the
Speaker 3: school I went to, it was very much so like
Speaker 3: small queer community there. It was kind of awkward. I
Speaker 3: just didn't really like not a lot of people seem
Speaker 3: to have showed interest in me. I didn't really show
Speaker 3: any interest in anyone there. I just kind of like
Speaker 3: kept my head down and just wanted to focus on
Speaker 3: school work.
Speaker 2: Really and yeah, man, it sounds like she digs you,
Speaker 2: and it sounds like you got this shit in the bag.
Speaker 2: It sounds like like I it's I love hearing you
Speaker 2: talk about how you're feeling about the date because it's
Speaker 2: really sweet and genuine and I just know it's going
Speaker 2: to be a great date. It doesn't matter what you
Speaker 2: guys do, Honestly, you do whatever the fuck you want.
Speaker 2: Go to a gallery, go to a little cafe. Don't
Speaker 2: overthink it, you know what I mean. It's you're gonna
Speaker 2: You're just it sounds that you already have a little connection,
Speaker 2: So just go to any place where that's allowed to flourish,
Speaker 2: where you can talk to each other. Yeah, and uh,
Speaker 2: and you're just gonna have the time of your goddamn life.
Speaker 2: Just don't go to a movie. Yeah, oh no, definitely
Speaker 2: don't do that. That's it's an attempting thing to do because
Speaker 2: you don't actually have to like interact with each other.
Speaker 2: But don't do that. Do something where you have to
Speaker 2: interact with each other and look at each other in
Speaker 2: the eyes, because that's some special shit.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 2: And I'm just very excited for you. You're gonna be're
Speaker 2: about to have a great day.
Speaker 1: It sounds like yeah, because you know, you asked us
Speaker 1: if we had date ideas, but then hot off the bat,
Speaker 1: you came. You came to us with the currently existing
Speaker 1: good date idea.
Speaker 2: Excellent, great idea. And I don't know if you were calling.
Speaker 1: Us for uh uh what's the word, uh, confirmation encouragement,
Speaker 1: encouragement on your currently existing plans. But but you you
Speaker 1: have our you have our validation, you have our validation
Speaker 1: on your currently resisting plans. If that's what you were
Speaker 1: what you were searching for.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: It sounds like the chemistry is there and as Mark said, uh,
Speaker 1: just finding a place for it to get a flourish Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Like I guess I really just wanted to know, like
Speaker 3: I haven't tried or dated in a very long time,
Speaker 3: Like I was worried, like oh am, I being a
Speaker 3: bit too like jumping in head first or something.
Speaker 2: Jump get your fuck on, jump on in there and
Speaker 2: get it done here.
Speaker 1: Here's another thing with the overthinking thing is like where
Speaker 1: you where You're like, oh am I being too much?
Speaker 4: This?
Speaker 2: Am I being too much? That even if.
Speaker 1: You are whatever you are, whatever you are being, that
Speaker 1: is you and it is not up to other people.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, some people are not going to fuck
Speaker 1: with you. Some people are not gonna fuck with your style.
Speaker 1: Some people are. Some people may think you are too much,
Speaker 1: some people may think you are too little. But it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter because you're not trying to mold your thing
Speaker 1: to be their thing. You're trying to see if this
Speaker 1: person jibes with your things. You don't even overthink about it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's a great point. Be yourself, be nervous, be excited.
Speaker 2: They are too, and you just had to know that
Speaker 2: you're you're You're both nervous and excited, and that's what
Speaker 2: makes a fun day. You know, before we go, where'd
Speaker 2: you meet this person?
Speaker 1: Jay?
Speaker 3: Where did we meet?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Liked you had you find out about.
Speaker 3: If we actually share like a close friend with each other, which,
Speaker 3: like I feel like if we didn't even meet on
Speaker 3: tender we could have could have probably met at like
Speaker 3: one of our friends, like he does see indie movie
Speaker 3: showing things that we probably would.
Speaker 9: Have met there.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's date number two right in the bag. The
Speaker 1: let's go to our mutual friends indie movie night. Love
Speaker 1: it man, you got a cool life. I like, I like,
Speaker 1: I like what's going on with you?
Speaker 2: Jay?
Speaker 1: I wish I could be you for like just one day.
Speaker 2: Oh oh.
Speaker 11: H.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer or to Uh, to two Geckos,
Speaker 1: to to Mark, to Lyle, to my father, or to
Speaker 1: Mark's father, or to any any any any anyone or anything.
Speaker 3: I just want to say, thank you so much, guys
Speaker 3: for talking to me and like letting me know that
Speaker 3: go for it. Uh to Gek's father, you raised the
Speaker 3: great echo.
Speaker 1: That's very sweet.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jay.
Speaker 1: You have a good rest of the night.
Speaker 2: You two guys, night night. Don't let the bed bugs.
Speaker 2: But okay, so I can help it. When when's that?
Speaker 1: When's last time you went on a date?
Speaker 2: Oh? God, to two days ago? It was great, it
Speaker 2: was great, it was a blast. I enjoy dates. I
Speaker 2: go on quite that I feel I feel confident to
Speaker 2: talk about. I love dates. I love getting to know
Speaker 2: new people, finding out about them and their quirks and
Speaker 2: their little subtleties and fun shit and you know, just
Speaker 2: fun you get to you sort of get to find
Speaker 2: out just who a new person is and if it works,
Speaker 2: it works. If a doesn't, A doesn't, it's no no harm.
Speaker 2: Enough out either way. But yeah, I had a really
Speaker 2: good date a couple of days ago. So we've established
Speaker 2: we're both been perpetually single people. That's right.
Speaker 1: What And we can get as much into this or
Speaker 1: out of this as you as you want to get
Speaker 1: into my thing too?
Speaker 11: What?
Speaker 2: Why? Why do you think that is?
Speaker 1: Because you say you like going on dates, but but
Speaker 1: you've been single for ten years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think about that, and you know, it's
Speaker 2: an interesting I think it's an interesting thing to think
Speaker 2: about because we have this. I would say it's a
Speaker 2: traditional societal idea that perhaps has gone more and more
Speaker 2: out of style, maybe as the years have gone on,
Speaker 2: very recently, that you know, everyone needs to find their
Speaker 2: one person and they need to be so spectacular that
Speaker 2: it stops everything else and you are with that person
Speaker 2: for the rest of your days. And there is a
Speaker 2: very romantic notion around that, you know. I think it's
Speaker 2: I would like to find someone. I think eventually. I
Speaker 2: don't even know if that's my sort of childhood romanticism talking,
Speaker 2: but I think I would like to find someone permanently eventually.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't even know if that's true, though I
Speaker 2: will say this, I find great joy fulfillment and satisfaction
Speaker 2: in getting to know different women with wonderful lives, varied
Speaker 2: experiences and takes and histories and and qualities, and I
Speaker 2: I know them for a little bit and sometimes I
Speaker 2: stay in touch with them and sometimes but I don't
Speaker 2: know if I don't know if I'm really looking if
Speaker 2: I really feel like I want anything beyond those sorts
Speaker 2: of burst relationships. They're like very quick relationships that are
Speaker 2: and I enjoy that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I feel like we had a similar thing. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I identify with a lot of what you're saying right now.
Speaker 2: Interesting what is you tell me about your tim? I mean,
Speaker 2: very similar to what kind of what you're saying.
Speaker 1: But I always feel like I'm weird because like because
Speaker 1: because as you're taying, there's a societal thing of like
Speaker 1: you know, you're supposed to be with this, but like
Speaker 1: you're supposed to find one person and be with them.
Speaker 1: But I just all I hear like horror stories like
Speaker 1: like uh was the name of the girl that we
Speaker 1: were talking about, Bethany, Like I hear stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, fuck, I don't want to be like, like,
Speaker 1: what's the.
Speaker 2: Thing where like you think someone is great.
Speaker 1: You enjoy their company, Yeah, you're you're attracted to them
Speaker 1: like things are, but you you just like want to
Speaker 1: live your own life and you want to respect them
Speaker 1: and their ability to live their own life as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, I like, what's what's what is that?
Speaker 2: There's got to be a word. There's probably a word
Speaker 2: in German for the Germans have a word for everything,
Speaker 2: probably a word for it. But yeah, that would be great.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would love to eventually end on some
Speaker 2: sort of thing like that, where I have someone who
Speaker 2: I consider a best friend, you know, one of my
Speaker 2: best friends, but the sex is also great and we
Speaker 2: love each other, you know, it's like sort of a
Speaker 2: I would love to find something like that. I haven't
Speaker 2: really found anything permanently like that, and it doesn't hurt
Speaker 2: me that I haven't either though. That's the thing. It's
Speaker 2: not like I don't feel like something's missing, but I
Speaker 2: I'm open to that happening in the future. But I
Speaker 2: don't feel like I'm on this quest to find that.
Speaker 2: What I've found is that some of the women who
Speaker 2: have been with who are also of the same mind
Speaker 2: as me, who enjoy sort of being with people in bursts.
Speaker 2: That's just sort of is right. That's the key.
Speaker 1: You got to find somebody who thinks about these things,
Speaker 1: say the similar way that you think about these things.
Speaker 2: So those people exist, they do exist. And also I
Speaker 2: will say that it's not everybody, Like there are people
Speaker 2: who I have heard because you know, their expectations were
Speaker 2: different than my expectations, and I've had to lay that
Speaker 2: out on the table. We've had to lay that out
Speaker 2: on the table. And I hope that I've left those
Speaker 2: situations amicably by being honest and communicative. But it's not
Speaker 2: for everybody. It's not for everybody. And I understand that
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: So, and you know you imationed about being on this quest,
Speaker 1: and like do we get calls about this all the time,
Speaker 1: Like anyone who's like on a who like is on
Speaker 1: a quest or like I'm looking for another person.
Speaker 2: I'm like, like, it's it's this.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is why I tell every single caller
Speaker 1: who's like, you know, hey, I can't find a girlfriend
Speaker 1: or boyfriend or whatever, it's like, well, then just you know,
Speaker 1: focus on your own thing and then people will come.
Speaker 1: But like when you chase finding the other half, like
Speaker 1: that's when your ship just gets fucked.
Speaker 2: Person yo, one of my one of my very best friends.
Speaker 2: I won't say her name out of just privacy, but
Speaker 2: she was dating a dude who maybe wasn't the best
Speaker 2: suited to her, but he gave her love and time
Speaker 2: and respect and that was great. But she was on
Speaker 2: this really transformative sort of journey of her own where
Speaker 2: she was really learning a lot about herself still is therapy,
Speaker 2: doing beautiful, like really like huge things for herself, figuring
Speaker 2: herself out. Had a lot of trauma in her past,
Speaker 2: dealing with it, working through it, becoming a better person
Speaker 2: for it. And this dude was not necessarily on that
Speaker 2: journey with her, and so at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: you know, it didn't work out because they ended up
Speaker 2: in different places. She was, you know, she had grown,
Speaker 2: he maybe had not so much, yea. And so it's
Speaker 2: just sort of this thing of like, yeah, I like
Speaker 2: to find people who are in a who are in
Speaker 2: a similar place that I am at that time. I
Speaker 2: like connecting with them. And then if we go our
Speaker 2: separate ways, great, I wish you the best. I love you,
Speaker 2: enjoy yourself, enjoy your life. If we stay in touch, great,
Speaker 2: I'd love to see you in the future. But it's
Speaker 2: I'm very loose with.
Speaker 3: It and.
Speaker 2: Appreciating the moment. Yeah, moments all we got. I'm a
Speaker 2: loose little slut of a boy. The moments all we got.
Speaker 1: Things ever, guaranteed tomorrow doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: Live it up, baby, enjoy yourself. Do things that make
Speaker 2: you happy. How are you feeling, Mark, I'm feeling when
Speaker 2: when the jazz is on, I feel like I'm playing
Speaker 2: the Sims again. You know what I mean? Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think I'm just putting a little house together in two
Speaker 2: thousand and two. A here, I really have to pee?
Speaker 2: Oh you you go p here right now? Really? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I take peeper experience.
Speaker 2: You do you let me do that. You go up here,
Speaker 2: you go pee in them when you get back. Okay,
Speaker 2: that sounds good. All right, ready break, I'll see you
Speaker 2: guys soon. I'm gonna go pee. I'm gonna have a
Speaker 2: nice peepee. Needs to take a peepee? Oh leka, drain
Speaker 2: the lizard. As they say, I want to stretch. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna stretch real quick. Hey.
Speaker 1: Shout out to freaking Mark Mark Mark Mark uh Mark
Speaker 1: Mark R. For coming on the stream.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 1: He's been great. Love having him in here. I always
Speaker 1: love doing the guest shows man. There was a lot
Speaker 1: of fucking fun. What's his name? I think it's Mark
Speaker 1: Ratituy Mark Uh, Mark mcribb, Mark Uh.
Speaker 2: What's the state? Is there any?
Speaker 1: Are there any states that start with the letter R?
Speaker 1: Rhode Island. That's the only one, right. I can't think
Speaker 1: of another one that was a good call, Leo. I
Speaker 1: couldn't think of one that would have been here forever
Speaker 1: rexus RAR Kansas, Alabama, Ruth Routh, Dakota. That's how Scooby
Speaker 1: Doo says, South Dakota. Oh, this is this is, this
Speaker 1: is I got I gotta know what's going on here?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Uh Helsey Kelsey, Hello Kelsey from Pennsylvania, twenty three years old.
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 10: How are you?
Speaker 2: Mark? How are you? Yeah? I'm doing very well. I'm
Speaker 2: having a nice little evening. I'm enjoying myself. How are
Speaker 2: you well.
Speaker 1: I'm having a nice little evening and enjoying myself too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm uh you know, I'm I'm having a fun time.
Speaker 2: It's fun. It's good to be alive for me. A
Speaker 2: little bit of that, oh please, of course hit me
Speaker 2: with a little bit of that, right, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: quick quick, yeah, that's it. Yeah, anymore over you know, well,
Speaker 2: maybe just a taste, maybe a taste. That's perfect, that's it,
Speaker 2: beautiful chin chinchim my friend, Kelsey, are you still there?
Speaker 10: Hello?
Speaker 2: Kelsey? It says here.
Speaker 1: That you twenty three from Pennsylvanuary went over. That part
Speaker 1: says that your boy It says that your boyfriend left
Speaker 1: you for your grandpa, and that your boyfriend's twenty. It
Speaker 1: says your boyfriend's twenty five and your grandpa's seventy two.
Speaker 2: Yep, Kelsey, please God tell us the story.
Speaker 10: So my boyfriend was cheating on me for a while
Speaker 10: and wasn't home. Come to find out he was seeing
Speaker 10: my grandfather.
Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 10: And I think that's how I got chlamydia.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you got chlamydia from your own grandfather,
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 2: So get.
Speaker 11: What?
Speaker 2: Okay? Wait? Tell us how they give us the story
Speaker 2: of the meeting of the grandfather And did you sense
Speaker 2: any weird chemistry there?
Speaker 1: Tell us get please, there's so many details.
Speaker 2: That we are missing.
Speaker 6: How I found out.
Speaker 10: Was I got quamdia and I'm not cheating on my boyfriend.
Speaker 10: So I did some big deeping and he was been
Speaker 10: texting this person and seeing him, which was my grandfather.
Speaker 2: Wait, you saw texts?
Speaker 10: I did?
Speaker 2: What did they say?
Speaker 10: And well one it was saved under his grandfather's name,
Speaker 10: so I thought nothing of it.
Speaker 1: Oh he saved the texts under his grandfather's name.
Speaker 2: Also, I would have thought something, Grandpa, Jimmy, oh my?
Speaker 2: Can you tell us what the text said?
Speaker 10: While it was about the nights they were having sleeping
Speaker 10: over having work late when it wasn't.
Speaker 9: Actually worse you know, Oh my god?
Speaker 10: And that Chelsea has lamydia?
Speaker 1: Cal Say, Kelsey, tell us, have you spoken to your
Speaker 1: grandfather about this?
Speaker 10: No, it's a whole family affair, honestly.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, so where is it at? What's the
Speaker 2: current status?
Speaker 8: I think they're still together.
Speaker 10: It happened like two months ago. What they're living it
Speaker 10: up over there?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 11: So?
Speaker 2: Are you not connected to the situation at all?
Speaker 3: Do you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What's your grandfather's family?
Speaker 10: First, they asked me if I wanted a relationship with them?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, way, what do you mean a relationship
Speaker 1: with them?
Speaker 10: Like a thropple?
Speaker 2: Are you hold on?
Speaker 1: Cal calseiy Kelsey please? And I will, I swear to
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be mad at you. I promise you
Speaker 1: that I will not be mad at you. Okay, do
Speaker 1: you understand me? I promise you I will not be
Speaker 1: mad at you.
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you fucking with us right now?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 10: I swear to God I would not mix that up.
Speaker 10: I'm single right now.
Speaker 2: Dude. Okay, hold on a second. Okay, So, so your
Speaker 2: boyfriend started fucking started sucking your grandfather is now with him?
Speaker 2: And how did that situation get resolved? Like, or rather
Speaker 2: not resolved but confronted in any way, like, explain to
Speaker 2: us that the sequence of events there.
Speaker 10: I confronted my boyfriend at the time, and he denied
Speaker 10: it and was trying to say they were doing other
Speaker 10: things that trying to surprise me what we're saying him.
Speaker 10: But then I got chamydia, dude, I that Wow.
Speaker 1: What was your relationship like with your grandfather before this happened?
Speaker 2: Very good question.
Speaker 10: We were pretty close, I mean close enough for my
Speaker 10: boyfriend to get to know him. I guess.
Speaker 2: Oh no, my you're playing chess yea oh god, dude, Okay,
Speaker 2: story to tell now?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 2: I want to just say? I I know I'm reacting
Speaker 2: with a like incredible shock. I apologize It's just it's
Speaker 2: such an intensely unusual thing, right, No, apology is definitely
Speaker 2: your grandma. Are they married?
Speaker 10: They they are. I mean they're not actually together now,
Speaker 10: but they were married for I think.
Speaker 11: Twenty two years.
Speaker 2: Are they not together because of this? What the fuck? Dude?
Speaker 2: This is in insane, insane sequence of events.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I never found out if she got media or not.
Speaker 2: I'm sure she did. I'm sure she did get it.
Speaker 1: Probably.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, now hold on. We have to be sensitive
Speaker 2: here though, too, because, as I mean, this is something
Speaker 2: out of like an absurdist comedy, but this is also
Speaker 2: your life. I imagine this was like, oh it is okay,
Speaker 2: have you gotten as like you've gotten past the pain
Speaker 2: part or the trauma.
Speaker 10: But because this is like a it can only be
Speaker 10: so painful, you know, when someone's when your boyfriend's gay,
Speaker 10: you just have to move forward.
Speaker 2: This is about more than your boyfriend being getting way
Speaker 2: more than that, way more than that. Yeah, that's sort
Speaker 2: of an afterthought at this point.
Speaker 1: I would put that lower in the priority list of
Speaker 1: things to be thinking about in this situation. Kelsey so
Speaker 1: so so, Kelsey's so all right, tell me about your
Speaker 1: tell me about the reactions of other people in your family,
Speaker 1: your mom, I don't know if you have any siblings
Speaker 1: or you know, what what what?
Speaker 2: What is? What is the talk of the town and
Speaker 2: the other members of the family.
Speaker 10: Well, my mom said she wasn't surprised.
Speaker 2: Apparently he did. He's done things like this in the past.
Speaker 10: I wanted to.
Speaker 1: Well, so your mom said that she wasn't surprised because
Speaker 1: he's done things like this in the past, apparently, Like like, what,
Speaker 1: do you have any examples of anything?
Speaker 10: I have no clue.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so wait, So it sounds like once this happened,
Speaker 2: you became somewhat disconnected in a in a sense, was
Speaker 2: that you're doing your choice? Tell us about where they
Speaker 2: because you it sounds like you're like, I have nothing
Speaker 2: to do with this anymore, Like you you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Yeah, yeah, I have no earthly idea. I
Speaker 2: have no earthly idea. I mean, what's get It's just
Speaker 2: such an insane situation.
Speaker 1: Tell us about your grandma. Are you close with her?
Speaker 11: Have you have you?
Speaker 2: Have you been checking in on.
Speaker 1: Her at all?
Speaker 10: A little bit. She's just done with the whole family,
Speaker 10: you know, she's living on her own, living her life.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm over this bullshit, this ship. What a
Speaker 2: champ man, what a fucking chip By the way, you too,
Speaker 2: what a fucking champ and your grandma too for putting up.
Speaker 2: And then also, I I do have to say on
Speaker 2: the other side of this, we have to be empathetic
Speaker 2: to all sides. Love clearly was found there in this
Speaker 2: very bizarre yeah.
Speaker 1: Way, I was wondering if I should bring that up.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm almost am I weirdly happy for
Speaker 1: the boyfriends? I mean, I know we cheated. I guess
Speaker 1: that's bad, but am I weirdly happy that he found
Speaker 1: he found out who he was?
Speaker 2: Happy is the wrong? Happy is not the wrong, But
Speaker 2: I mean, well, well, look the situation okay, and.
Speaker 1: This guy sound crazy, Yeah, the situation kind of worked
Speaker 1: out for everybody because look.
Speaker 2: Well because look, you know, you don't want to be
Speaker 2: with it, well, because you don't want to.
Speaker 1: Be with somebody who ultimately is you know, hiding something
Speaker 1: about themselves that would make it.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, Yeah, you don't want to be with someone
Speaker 2: who's fucking your grandfather.
Speaker 1: To be with someone who's fucking your grandfather, and your
Speaker 1: boyfriend wants to be with your grandfather.
Speaker 2: So maybe everyone's kind of maybe this was good? Was
Speaker 2: this good? Am I crazy?
Speaker 10: I mean, maybe it's a good story.
Speaker 2: It's a great story, questionably a good story. Should it
Speaker 2: maybe have never? Like, would it have been better for
Speaker 2: everyone if it had never happened at all? Your boyfriend
Speaker 2: and your grandfather? And likely it's likely probably better if
Speaker 2: it had never happened at all. But I have to say,
Speaker 2: you are awesome for taking you clearly have you you
Speaker 2: have a healthy relationship with what has happened. You're you're
Speaker 2: looking at it with go ahead.
Speaker 10: Besides the commydia, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: You take those pills. You get that pill on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're working on it.
Speaker 2: Take the pills to go to your fucking PCP. We
Speaker 2: were talking about lemittee on the streamline Lyles had yeah,
Speaker 2: and we when we're cure it's a curable illness. Just
Speaker 2: take a pill twice. Take the pill.
Speaker 10: Probably this story.
Speaker 2: Huh, you gotta go get that pill. It's very easy.
Speaker 2: It's a it's like a regiment. It's a little antibiotic regiment.
Speaker 7: Go do it before.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know why the h you answered that
Speaker 2: with maybe certainly have and you just take some pills
Speaker 2: and then you're good.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just reading the comments.
Speaker 10: I'm sorry, people are saying some good things.
Speaker 1: Tell me what the people are. So what of the
Speaker 1: people saying are they? Are they comforting you?
Speaker 2: Or normalize chlamydia?
Speaker 10: Normalize Grandpa Steel one of the mom's boyfriends too.
Speaker 2: Now, huh, just remember because the mom was saying, like,
Speaker 2: he does this type of thing.
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe when your mom was like whatever
Speaker 1: fucking like in college or something like that, maybe the
Speaker 1: same thing happened to her where like her boyfriend was
Speaker 1: stolen by her dad.
Speaker 2: Maybe he has a history of doing this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: What's up with.
Speaker 5: Her boyfriend?
Speaker 10: Would become a step grandpa?
Speaker 2: If Grandpa could call him, this would be the most
Speaker 2: incredible sequence of events. Is it any way to.
Speaker 10: Make that happen to boyfriend? Grandmam?
Speaker 2: Do you do you have his? Wait? Actually, can I
Speaker 2: ask you? Can I ask you?
Speaker 1: Do you have your grandmother's phone number? Would you be
Speaker 1: willing to dial her in.
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 8: Though?
Speaker 2: Oh shit, that's right, she's on grandma time.
Speaker 10: Someone said, if you can't keep it in the pants,
Speaker 10: keep it in the family.
Speaker 1: By the way, can you figure this out real quick?
Speaker 1: If your boyfriend and your grand and your grandfather did
Speaker 1: get married. What what would the would you call? What
Speaker 1: would your boyfriend's title be? Step grand your father? Oh,
Speaker 1: my step grandfather.
Speaker 2: This is this is my step granddad.
Speaker 1: And my axe.
Speaker 2: Jesus, what mental just jungle jim to be climbing through here?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean, I can't imagine how honestly
Speaker 2: I'm I have I just have to say, because I
Speaker 2: know it must have fucked you up, and I'm sorry
Speaker 2: for that. That's that that must have been a real
Speaker 2: fucker to hear or to see, right, Oh, Kelsey, Kelsey's
Speaker 2: what would happen? Left?
Speaker 1: Let's bring it back, guy, this was an accident.
Speaker 2: I just I'm just I can't imagine what a what
Speaker 2: a fucker of a thing that must have been to
Speaker 2: see like your your boyfriend's text messages with your grand fund.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kelsey, Kelsey dropped out of an accident.
Speaker 2: But maybe she got a cover blown or something.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that is a total that is a total
Speaker 1: fucker Uh, very crazy stuff. Kelsey did it seem like
Speaker 1: she was no, you've you've you've been very sensitive to
Speaker 1: this issue. I feel like it's it's true. Kelsey did't
Speaker 1: seem like she was handling it very well, super well.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, here's here's the problem.
Speaker 2: She had like a good attitude of I don't know if.
Speaker 1: It's I don't know if it's a problem, but here's
Speaker 1: the thing. Whatever it is, it's undeniably a pretty crazy,
Speaker 1: medically pretty funny.
Speaker 2: It's so funny.
Speaker 1: It's an undeniably funny start under it's a comedic. And
Speaker 1: I appreciate so heavily that Casey is aware of that,
Speaker 1: one hundred percent agreed it's undeniable. Is the only way
Speaker 1: it cannot be denied.
Speaker 2: She's a fucking champ.
Speaker 1: She's a fucking champ.
Speaker 2: A champ just like dealing with it in a way
Speaker 2: that is healthy and good. You know she knows or
Speaker 2: she should. No Kelsey, if you're listening, it's not about you, obviously,
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with you. It has to do
Speaker 2: with some strange, perhaps beautiful love between two men of
Speaker 2: differing ages, And who am I to judge that? Really?
Speaker 1: You know what I was thinking about is because I
Speaker 1: brought up real quick. I was like, this is a
Speaker 1: good thing for everyone, Like if I'm let's say I'm
Speaker 1: the boyfriend and I'm gay and I'm not telling okay,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of, like what's the ethical way
Speaker 1: to like, because you feel what.
Speaker 2: You feel, and there's nothing wrong with you know, feeling
Speaker 2: how you feel.
Speaker 1: Like, what the what's the ethical way to be like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm going to break up with you, yeah, to date
Speaker 1: your grand because cheating is different from.
Speaker 2: Being like I'm going to leave you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know if there's an ethical way to
Speaker 1: do that, if that even exists.
Speaker 2: I feel like there's no like good way to go
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: What's the proper communication involved?
Speaker 2: Just that if you're the boys had to be a
Speaker 2: cheating situation, like, there's no way that could have happened
Speaker 2: in like a formal way. Hey, Kelsey, you know listen,
Speaker 2: so we had a great run. He's hot, it's hot
Speaker 2: as fun. What do you think if I, uh, there's
Speaker 2: no good healthy way to get you just have to
Speaker 2: like do it and then deal with the repercussions, you know,
Speaker 2: you get.
Speaker 1: You can't just like.
Speaker 2: Take those dentures out and get give me that, give
Speaker 2: me those gummies. You can't.
Speaker 1: That's probably a unique sexual experience that I'm sure I
Speaker 1: had if I had to like get in his mind
Speaker 1: and be like, why would I, you know, be into
Speaker 1: you know, my girlfriend's grandfather.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's the gums thing. It's a gums thing,
Speaker 2: or it's a it's maybe a geriatric thing, or it's
Speaker 2: a family thing. Maybe it's a family fetish where it's
Speaker 2: like he's fucking people, you know, it's like or it's
Speaker 2: just family yeah maybe, or or it could be just
Speaker 2: like a sexual discovery thing. He might be having a
Speaker 2: real revelation.
Speaker 1: Hey, this is a good What What does geriatric mean?
Speaker 2: It means elderly. It means like a scet old.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I know I couldn't even like vaguely describe
Speaker 1: what it meant before you told me just now, but
Speaker 1: I've used it.
Speaker 2: A medical way of saying old, uh, geriatrics. It's like
Speaker 2: having to do with elderly medicine and elderly people. Well,
Speaker 2: I wish Casey the best of luck and whatever comes next.
Speaker 2: I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I don't know what your dating life is supposed to
Speaker 1: look like after this case.
Speaker 2: I think I know exactly what's coming next, and well
Speaker 2: for your boyfriend at least, and I wish him the
Speaker 2: very best with your grandfather at the very least.
Speaker 1: The bar for whoever she dates nice is extremely low.
Speaker 2: That's what you know? What we should wish Kelsey the best? Yes,
Speaker 2: of course is that what you said? Kelsey?
Speaker 1: Kelsey's the girlfriend, Yes, who her the best? I wish
Speaker 1: her the best as well.
Speaker 2: Clearly her boyfriend is doing just fine with members of
Speaker 2: her family, so we wish, of course whatever. But Kelsey,
Speaker 2: Kelsey is a hero. Kelsey, God damn man, Nothing count nothing.
Speaker 1: Can hurt her now she is.
Speaker 2: She's been through the ringer. Dude, what like, top tier
Speaker 2: human being? Top tier human being. We wish you lovely
Speaker 2: sex with people who are not interested in your extended
Speaker 2: family and and and a and a good life thereforward,
Speaker 2: Let's see what else is going on. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of interesting stuff going on here. Kind of this one's
Speaker 2: kind of interesting. That's the one that I had my
Speaker 2: eye on. Yeah, you want to do this one?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Stuck to Maddie from Minnesota, Minnesoeta.
Speaker 9: Maddie, Oh my god, am I on?
Speaker 2: Oh You're so on.
Speaker 1: You are more on than anyone has ever but you
Speaker 1: are at your You're on, You're on right now, right now.
Speaker 2: How's it going, Maddie?
Speaker 8: Well, Hi, how are you guys?
Speaker 1: We're two geckos never better. See the best part of
Speaker 1: the show is when you just forget the yere cam.
Speaker 8: I live on a really busy street, so if there's
Speaker 8: like a loud truck or motorcycle that goes bay, I
Speaker 8: just want to apologize to everyone.
Speaker 1: Maddie, you have nothing to apologize for. Uh. It says
Speaker 1: you're twenty one from Minnesota. It also says here that
Speaker 1: you've been feeling like your friends pity invite you to events,
Speaker 1: and that you feel as though you're a side character
Speaker 1: in everyone's lives.
Speaker 2: That's what it says here. Do you want to tell
Speaker 2: us more about that?
Speaker 8: Yeah, So, for the past like year or so, I
Speaker 8: guess like nobody, like I don't know, people stopped inviting
Speaker 8: me to stuff. So for like probably like six months,
Speaker 8: I didn't like going anywhere except for work in my house.
Speaker 8: And then I moved to a new city and I
Speaker 8: go to school here and I got a job, and
Speaker 8: people at my job I ask them questions about themselves,
Speaker 8: and then that's like the end of the conversation. They
Speaker 8: don't want to talk to me about like what's going
Speaker 8: on in my life, and like my roommates will go
Speaker 8: off and hang out without me all the time and
Speaker 8: don't invite me, And I feel like I just kind
Speaker 8: of exist to say semi funny things to people and
Speaker 8: then like that's it.
Speaker 5: M Do you feel I don't know if any of
Speaker 5: that made sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah it does, it does.
Speaker 3: Do you.
Speaker 2: Feel like what kind of you say When you talk
Speaker 2: to your coworkers, they're talking mostly about themselves. They don't
Speaker 2: ask you much about yourself. Is that what you said?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 8: And like they'll talk about like going to parties and stuff,
Speaker 8: and like if I'm present, they'll be like, oh, you can,
Speaker 8: like come as you want to, and then I'll go
Speaker 8: and nobody talks to me the whole time.
Speaker 1: I have a few thoughts about this, Maddie. Okay, so
Speaker 1: aside from like your your like friendships and your sort
Speaker 1: of personal life, what.
Speaker 3: Do you.
Speaker 1: Like and what do you do with your time?
Speaker 8: I guess a lot of the time, I just kind
Speaker 8: of hang out at my house. I watch YouTube a lot,
Speaker 8: I like playing video games, and I mean I'll have
Speaker 8: a boyfriend, but like none of his friends like lives.
Speaker 2: You're off.
Speaker 8: And like every time he's come to visit me here
Speaker 8: since we're a long distance right now, nobody like I'll
Speaker 8: be like, hey, let's let's go up to dinner with
Speaker 8: some of like these people that I know, and then
Speaker 8: that people just like cancel on us last minute, or
Speaker 8: they just are like, oh, we're doing something else, so
Speaker 8: I don't I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: So you just you feel like you're getting the short
Speaker 2: end of the social stick, shall we say?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What can can I ask?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: What would your ideal situation be?
Speaker 2: Are are you hoping to have like.
Speaker 1: One or two like really close friends you hopen to
Speaker 1: have like be in a whole group, Like what how
Speaker 1: would you sort of describe your ideal uh communal situation?
Speaker 2: Good question?
Speaker 8: Well, I mean in high school, I had this big
Speaker 8: group of friends and we would literally like hang out
Speaker 8: all day at school and then after school we all
Speaker 8: go to someone's house and just hang out till like
Speaker 8: ten o'clock at night, and then winch and repeat the
Speaker 8: next day. I guess I just missed that.
Speaker 1: So the reason I was talking about like what your
Speaker 1: interests are outside of just your personal life is because I.
Speaker 2: Feel like one of the great.
Speaker 1: Missions in life is to take the big, bright universe
Speaker 1: and carve your tiny little piece of it somehow, so
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're in college.
Speaker 2: Are you in college?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, perfect if I were you, And this is
Speaker 1: this is I was a bit of a loner my
Speaker 1: freshman year of college, and this is how I sort
Speaker 1: of started to build a lot of people around me
Speaker 1: and have friends and stuff. Is very I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you some very practical shit here. You gotta start a club,
Speaker 1: not join. Start a club in relation to your interests.
Speaker 2: Whatever that is.
Speaker 1: And anything you think is not an interest you can
Speaker 1: start a club around. You actually can, whether it's a
Speaker 1: video I know you said you'd like to play video games,
Speaker 1: anything else you could possibly think of to start a
Speaker 1: club and then advertise for the club on like whatever.
Speaker 1: Let's say you go to the University of Minnesota. You
Speaker 1: go to the fucking University of Minnesota Class of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty facebook page. Type in, Hey, everybody, We're gonna be
Speaker 1: at the room two nine. I'm bringing my Nintendo Switch.
Speaker 1: Everyone come hang, you know, and I guarantee there's other
Speaker 1: people on the University of Minnesota Facebook page who are
Speaker 1: just feel in the.
Speaker 2: Same way as you.
Speaker 1: They'll come show up.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 2: So that's sort of the way that I always.
Speaker 1: Think about these kinds of things, especially when you're in college,
Speaker 1: because that's a good uh uh avenue. And and that's
Speaker 1: that's my like practical advice for you, because that's something
Speaker 1: you can really like go and and and do and
Speaker 1: put yourself out there like that.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 5: And I think I do.
Speaker 8: I try to put myself out there. And like my
Speaker 8: freshman year of college, I was in a single dorm
Speaker 8: room and I would go, I went up to all
Speaker 8: the other people on my floor and introduced myself, and
Speaker 8: like none of them did anything to do with me,
Speaker 8: because a lot of them knew each other already. So
Speaker 8: I think that might also be part of my problem
Speaker 8: is that, like I think people think I want to
Speaker 8: insert myself into their already established groups.
Speaker 1: So they don't want to like, well, this is why,
Speaker 1: this is why I'm telling you to start This is
Speaker 1: why I'm telling you to start a club because you
Speaker 1: don't you you you don't want to insert yourself into
Speaker 1: a group. You want to four you want to be
Speaker 1: the genesis of a new group.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, what do you think, Mark? No, I like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's a good advice. I I
Speaker 2: I also had a little bit of trouble in college
Speaker 2: because I all of my friends from high school had
Speaker 2: left and so but you know, I was in like
Speaker 2: acting and so that sort of group was already sort
Speaker 2: of there to welcome me, right, it was a little
Speaker 2: bit easier in that regard. But I think, uh, do
Speaker 2: you what about your boyfriend? Is he is he open
Speaker 2: to this like sort of friendship excursion or how does
Speaker 2: he feel about you know, social gatherings and parties and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Does he want that like you want that?
Speaker 2: Or how is you know? How what what are his
Speaker 2: feelings on that?
Speaker 8: I think he feels like pretty much the same as me,
Speaker 8: Like we've had conversations about before, and like it comes
Speaker 8: up a lot. How like you guys are saying, we
Speaker 8: think we get like the short end of the stay
Speaker 8: and like everything, like all of his friends moved to
Speaker 8: different states, Like I'm three hours away at college. You know,
Speaker 8: he has a dead end job he doesn't want to
Speaker 8: be at. And when he's he's doing because he's a
Speaker 8: student pilot, so he can only fly when the weather
Speaker 8: is like good and has been really bad for the
Speaker 8: past like four months. So he's like in the same
Speaker 8: boat as me. We just keep like feeling like we're
Speaker 8: not like getting what I feel like we deserve. I
Speaker 8: don't know if that's like entitled or arrogant for me
Speaker 8: to say, but I feel like we deserve some people
Speaker 8: that actually care about us.
Speaker 2: One hundred. Everyone does. Everyone deserves to be cared about
Speaker 2: and have people around them that love them and support them.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's it's not too much to ask
Speaker 2: or entitled at all. I think it's just a matter
Speaker 2: of it seems that you have not run into those people,
Speaker 2: because if you had, you know what I mean, they
Speaker 2: would be more that they would be happy to include you,
Speaker 2: I mean the the And so I think Lyle's advice
Speaker 2: is actually really good here and that you may have
Speaker 2: to just take it upon yourself to find an opening,
Speaker 2: you know, like you you make the thing and then
Speaker 2: and then find people that fall in there. Those are
Speaker 2: probably people that you'll you'll get along with.
Speaker 1: See, I'm always I'm always thinking about like a you know,
Speaker 1: what what can I control?
Speaker 2: What can I control?
Speaker 1: And like, relationship shit is so hard because it's like
Speaker 1: that it's all fifty to fifty, whether with relationship, friendship, whatever,
Speaker 1: it is all fifty to fifty. So it's fifty percent right.
Speaker 1: You cannot control, true, but you can control the amount
Speaker 1: of effort you put into putting yourself out there and
Speaker 1: attempting to put yourself in as many situations as possible
Speaker 1: in which other people are gravitating towards you. And that's
Speaker 1: why I like this whole start of clubs thing, because
Speaker 1: not only can you put yourself in a position where
Speaker 1: people are gravitating towards you, but also you can put
Speaker 1: yourself in a position where people who are interested in
Speaker 1: the same things as you are gravitating towards you, give
Speaker 1: it a higher percentage of it being the right people.
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you before we go, Maddie, what
Speaker 1: do you think of that idea?
Speaker 8: I think it'd be a really good idea, Like I
Speaker 8: don't I don't know if I'm confident enough in myself
Speaker 8: that I could actually like do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we are scared.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit scary, but you gotta get over that, Maddie.
Speaker 1: I wish, I wish I could send some sort of
Speaker 1: ray beam of confidence to you to get you there,
Speaker 1: But I tell you got to get there, Maddie. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, I just want you to be able to
Speaker 1: feel empowered to take control of the situation.
Speaker 8: Just than put myself out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give it a shot, because it's really, at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, it's all just people, and we
Speaker 2: tend to overthink that we we we're all just stupid
Speaker 2: people and and and also we all really are sort
Speaker 2: of insecure at the core, and we really want a connection, love,
Speaker 2: support and validation. So you even the most confident people
Speaker 2: you know are the people that even ignore you or
Speaker 2: or like sort of passively invite you to their parties.
Speaker 2: They're insecure, They're looking for connection, they're looking for something
Speaker 2: to hang on to. So creating a group not a
Speaker 2: big leap, something you can absolutely do. Don't think too
Speaker 2: hard about it. I would say, just do it and
Speaker 2: uh and and you'll probably find that some magical ship
Speaker 2: will happen as a result.
Speaker 1: Mattie, is there anything else you want to say to
Speaker 1: me or market the computer before we go?
Speaker 8: Thank you guys for all this ad life. I definitely
Speaker 8: feel like more empowered by the end of the chat.
Speaker 8: Has been really nice to add up reading in a
Speaker 8: little bit.
Speaker 2: Have a good night, Maddie. Thank you, Maddie, thanks you too.
Speaker 2: Don't let the bed bugs bite. Have you have you
Speaker 2: had bed bugs bite you before? I feel like that's
Speaker 2: never happened, just like I just think it's a hilarious
Speaker 2: turn of phrase. Not oh yeah, they're real. In New York,
Speaker 2: it's a problem a lot of people who you know,
Speaker 2: there's there's a big habit of collecting, you know, if
Speaker 2: you need furniture, there's a lot of furniture on the street.
Speaker 2: But they will take edge and take bed But it's
Speaker 2: very real, and it'll it'll infect the whole building, will
Speaker 2: infest the whole building, I should say. But I've never
Speaker 2: had them, very lucky to never have had them. But
Speaker 2: you don't want to let them bite.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're almost you're like you're kind of
Speaker 1: like putting I don't know if you believe in this ship.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe in the ship. Like
Speaker 1: the vibes you're putting it out into the universe, putting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every time after comments, you're like putting out the vibes
Speaker 1: of bed bugs coming to you. Or maybe you're like
Speaker 1: don't let maybe you're you can take them too. I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna take them to the way. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're they're fucking bugs. Yeah, you're a giant.
Speaker 2: I say it.
Speaker 1: Let the bed bugs bite, let the bikes come to
Speaker 1: me an immunity, you know. With Maddie's thing, it's uh, dude,
Speaker 1: it's a.
Speaker 2: It's a.
Speaker 1: That's a hard one because, like I, I approach everything
Speaker 1: from like a I had a hard time responding.
Speaker 2: I didn't really know what to say.
Speaker 1: I approach a lot of things from like a weird
Speaker 1: entrepreneurial thing where I'm like, fuck this, I'm taking control
Speaker 1: of this situation.
Speaker 2: I'm starting the club. That's what I And I know
Speaker 2: that Maddie.
Speaker 1: Seems like she might have issues doing that, but yeah,
Speaker 1: fuck I wish she didn't know, wish she would go
Speaker 1: on to the fucking cause.
Speaker 2: It's so if you.
Speaker 1: Really like take control of the situation, you can be
Speaker 1: you can meet people anywhere, you can go to fucking
Speaker 1: the middle of Taiwan, and you can make a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of friends.
Speaker 2: You really know how to take control of the situation.
Speaker 2: It's true, and that's something that I think probably, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you and Mattie are probably quite different in that way.
Speaker 2: It sounds like she doesn't have that thing in her
Speaker 2: that is like I'll just do you know, Yeah, how
Speaker 2: do we get that to her? I know, I thought, well,
Speaker 2: hopefully she felt it. Hopefully she felt it. I think
Speaker 2: it's a good instinct. I think if she did that,
Speaker 2: probably good things would happen in terms of friendships. But
Speaker 2: I felt so unqualified to answer because I have always
Speaker 2: been so lucky in like having friends around me, you know, friends, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean not a lot, but I have the ones
Speaker 2: that I do have are like real tight, real close.
Speaker 2: I've been there for a long time, okay, and I've
Speaker 2: never had trouble having those people in my life. So
Speaker 2: I just didn't feel qualified to like tell her how
Speaker 2: to do that. I don't know, I don't know. I've
Speaker 2: never been in that situation.
Speaker 1: It's hard to build friends from like just fucking scratch.
Speaker 2: That's I imagine. It is very sat I had one
Speaker 2: time like that when I lived in Paris back in
Speaker 2: the day. I moved over there and was waiting tables,
Speaker 2: and I was very depressed because I had like a
Speaker 2: couple friends. But I found it super difficult to crack
Speaker 2: that barrier and like, yeah, bring people into my life
Speaker 2: who meant a lot to me. And I didn't realize
Speaker 2: until I was in that situation how hollow that makes
Speaker 2: you feel. So I left, moved to New York, and
Speaker 2: I had a much easier time. But like, yes, it's
Speaker 2: not a luxury for a lot of people, you know,
Speaker 2: they just have to fucking deal with it. And I
Speaker 2: really don't know what the solution is. I think you you,
Speaker 2: what you suggested is a good one. You just have to, uh,
Speaker 2: like you said, you have to push past the nervousness,
Speaker 2: the insecurity and just give it a shot. Hope it works.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Else it's hard. Is like as you become an adult,
Speaker 2: it's like the.
Speaker 1: The like making time for your friends because I feel
Speaker 1: like because because when you're in high school, it's like
Speaker 1: you all see each other every day at the stupid
Speaker 1: bus stop and classrooms and whatever it is. But as
Speaker 1: you're an adult and you're just like, you know, you
Speaker 1: have to actually go out of your way to text,
Speaker 1: especially if like you're friends with people who are like
Speaker 1: in different groups, Like you don't like all of your
Speaker 1: friends aren't in the same group, right and just be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: everybody meet at this place. It's like you have to
Speaker 1: make time for this person more difficult and there's only
Speaker 1: seven days and a week times so much more n.
Speaker 2: More difficult when we think of it is. Yeah, even
Speaker 2: today now with friends who I have, who are established,
Speaker 2: who I love deeply, it's very difficult to find time
Speaker 2: for them. It's so difficult. Uh, it's I don't like that.
Speaker 2: I want more time for my relationships and my friends.
Speaker 2: I want more of that.
Speaker 1: We only have seven days a week.
Speaker 2: Gotta make that time though, that's super important. Do you
Speaker 2: do you waste?
Speaker 1: Do you waste a lot of time?
Speaker 2: Tons? Tons of time? Yes?
Speaker 1: What do you do when you're wasting time?
Speaker 2: I ride my electric Well it's not wasted time, but really,
Speaker 2: you ride your electric bike, my electric unicycle? Not a
Speaker 2: waste of time at all. I sit there high and
Speaker 2: play the piano. It's not a waste of time. No,
Speaker 2: I don't I love that you have an elect I
Speaker 2: completely glossed over this. You have an electric unicycle? I do?
Speaker 2: I have an electric The hell is an electric uni? Dude?
Speaker 2: It's the best thing. It's it's you know, the one wheels. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so it's that, But you're.
Speaker 1: It's the exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going straight, that's not there.
Speaker 1: Fun yourself up on that thing?
Speaker 4: You ever?
Speaker 2: I have I have fucked myself up pretty bad on it,
Speaker 2: but I'm a lot more careful now. And dude, honestly,
Speaker 2: there's no better way to get around New York City.
Speaker 2: I've shipped them here to LA and ridden them around
Speaker 2: because I just love it so much. You can ride
Speaker 2: with car traffic, you get you can bring it into
Speaker 2: a restaurant, no one cares. It's the size of like
Speaker 2: a briefcase. They go forty miles an hour. It's it's
Speaker 2: the best. I only learn it if you want to
Speaker 2: learn it, and if you're okay with possibly being hurt
Speaker 2: a few times. But if you're okay with that learning process,
Speaker 2: it really is like to me, it's the future, But
Speaker 2: I don't think it'll ever be beyond a niche thing
Speaker 2: because it's hard to learn.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, you know the concept of minimalism. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like the unicycle. That's the minimalism. That's the
Speaker 1: minimalists form of transportation.
Speaker 2: I only need one wheel. That's a single wheel, will do,
Speaker 2: single wheel, will do, single wheel is my way. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the car, four wheels, What does society come to a
Speaker 2: wheel that stuff? These quad wheeled assholes.
Speaker 1: All these wheels are capitalistic.
Speaker 2: Society is I'm a Uni wheel man, always have been,
Speaker 2: always will be.
Speaker 1: How are you feeling staminal wise? And it's kind of
Speaker 1: being a while. I don't want to, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: down to keep taking calls for as long as you're downing,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to keep you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know what your energy levels are.
Speaker 2: Like I'm chilling. I'm starting to get a little tired,
Speaker 2: but I could definitely take one or two more, Take
Speaker 2: a couple more.
Speaker 1: Take aple more.
Speaker 4: Do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds good.
Speaker 1: See what's going on on the computer.
Speaker 2: There's a couple that I saw. It's been a big
Speaker 2: day for me, but I'm really enjoying this. It's nice
Speaker 2: to uh, nice to talk to people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's uh once again, thank you for coming
Speaker 1: on the show man. It's it's fun to do this
Speaker 1: with another person.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Good, Because I'm always in my own head about shit,
Speaker 1: it's not to have another perspective.
Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, I mean I agree. It's nice to
Speaker 2: bounce off each other and think about things for people
Speaker 2: and with people. It's just nice. It's humanity. It's like,
Speaker 2: I feel like when we're doing this, we have it's
Speaker 2: like the same dynamic as meeting someone at a bar
Speaker 2: and having like a serious conversation about something it is,
Speaker 2: you know, or not so serious conversation. But either way,
Speaker 2: like having like a concentrated conversation about any old thing.
Speaker 2: I enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Mark, Do you feel like there's a and we can
Speaker 1: think about it for a second. You feel like there
Speaker 1: is any sort of underlying theme that's been prevalent in
Speaker 1: the majority of the calls tonight.
Speaker 2: You know, I think what it is, at least in
Speaker 2: the less well, yeah, generally, it's this feeling of unsure
Speaker 2: about what other people will think. Sure, yeah, the friendship,
Speaker 2: the relationship, the it's trepidation. It's like anxiety over and
Speaker 2: I think it's a problem that a lot of people have.
Speaker 2: Now is probably why such a large sample sizes. Is
Speaker 2: that sort of thing is like I just don't know
Speaker 2: what other people will think about this. Yeah, that sucks
Speaker 2: because like that's robbing. It's it's like almost like a
Speaker 2: confidence thief. It's like you it I I always hope
Speaker 2: that people feel good about enough about themselves too, you know,
Speaker 2: bring that sort of stuff to the table. You should
Speaker 2: feel good enough about yourself and if you don't, that sucks.
Speaker 2: You should feel better about yourself. You know you should
Speaker 2: because you there's nothing wrong with you. You know it's
Speaker 2: it's it's all about how you perceive yourself. There's nothing
Speaker 2: inherently wrong with you.
Speaker 1: I heard this quote someone and said this. You belong
Speaker 1: in every room, and you belong in every You belong
Speaker 1: in every room. There ain't no room out there you
Speaker 1: don't belong in.
Speaker 2: I love that. I like that.
Speaker 1: I remember, that's not mine. I heard that from from someone,
Speaker 1: but so true, so true.
Speaker 2: If there's anything anything that I could relate to it
Speaker 2: with in my in my current life, it would be
Speaker 2: like the imposter syndrome that I had and still have,
Speaker 2: of course for such a long time, of like, I
Speaker 2: don't belong in this job. I what I make is bullshit.
Speaker 2: What the people I look up to make is great.
Speaker 2: I don't know why they're entertaining me or talking to me.
Speaker 2: I feel like I need to prove something here. None
Speaker 2: of that is true. It's a fabrication. They like you
Speaker 2: because they like you. There's no catch. You know you
Speaker 2: are worth it. You are worth it, and and and
Speaker 2: and anyone out there that pays you a bit of
Speaker 2: mind thinks you're worth it too. And you just got
Speaker 2: to know that you know you you You gotta walk
Speaker 2: the earth knowing that that you are valuable. I can't
Speaker 2: impress that enough. It's so important, dude, because so many
Speaker 2: people feel like they're not and you are.
Speaker 1: You are, man, It's, uh, this is weird. Maybe this
Speaker 1: is uh, you know, we're both talking about being single
Speaker 1: for a while.
Speaker 2: It's like.
Speaker 1: Relationships, whether they're romantic or but just with friends or
Speaker 1: with family, whatever it is. It's like in your head,
Speaker 1: you're all like, there's just so many people are just
Speaker 1: like fucking weird and they have other weird stuff, and
Speaker 1: it's like it's enough to like figure out your own
Speaker 1: weird stuff. And then you bring another person in and
Speaker 1: you have to they're weird stuff in relationship with you're
Speaker 1: weird stuff. And you bring a third person, you bring
Speaker 1: your grandpa in, Yeah, and you have to figure out
Speaker 1: his weird stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always tough, knows what that's like? You you
Speaker 2: you wanted? How are you feeling about? Let's find one
Speaker 2: final call. Let's take a finale, bring us in. Sounds great.
Speaker 1: Before we do that, let's let's check a with the chat.
Speaker 1: When we're talking. Oh yeah, last last time with the
Speaker 1: chat March makes me want to move to New York?
Speaker 1: Are you saying that you can stalk him?
Speaker 2: First of all, you should move to New York. You,
Speaker 2: you definitely should.
Speaker 1: We we were talking about this a little bit beforehand.
Speaker 1: I really want to move to New York at some point.
Speaker 2: It's the best place. I really want to move there.
Speaker 2: But all the we were also talking about this all
Speaker 2: the like, all the the the industry yep, yeah, the industry. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the whole industry is here.
Speaker 1: Is in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: The entire entertainment industry is here for the most part.
Speaker 2: I mean there's some in New York, but it's you know,
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of the entertainment industry is here. And
Speaker 2: it's a bummer because not because La sucks. I love La.
Speaker 2: We were talking about this too. I really have learned
Speaker 2: to love La. It's a great city. But if we're
Speaker 2: talking objectively about cities, yeah, New York is better. It's
Speaker 2: a better city. Every time I get in my car.
Speaker 1: Every time I get in my car, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: either gonna die or I'm gonna kill somebody. That happens
Speaker 1: every time I get in my car. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: that thought every time I get in my car.
Speaker 2: I'm like, now, wouldn't it be great if you could
Speaker 2: have that thought at another person's face. That's what it is.
Speaker 2: You can just you get it out and then it's done.
Speaker 2: We all love each other, we're all on the same level.
Speaker 2: We're on the street. Get the fuck out of the way,
Speaker 2: thank you very much. And and and everything is within
Speaker 2: five minutes of you. You don't you walk outside. The
Speaker 2: whole world is right there. It's just a better design city,
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And another thing is with the cars. You can't get
Speaker 1: drunk and drive a car. No, you shouldn't get high
Speaker 1: and drive a car. But on the subway, I mean,
Speaker 1: you can do PCP and ride the subway and you're fine.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Yep, you sure can. You could. You
Speaker 2: could do some PCP on the subway. You could do
Speaker 2: what Yeah whatever, that's salt. It's still bad.
Speaker 1: I feel like bath salts are like they're very like
Speaker 1: twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like there. I haven't heard anything about
Speaker 2: of fashion. They're falling out of fashion, but I'm sure
Speaker 2: there's some some some people still doing them. We had
Speaker 2: a big old shooting on the subway this morning and
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I heard about that. Yeah man, not good.
Speaker 2: Not good. Also Gilbert Godfried, legendary New Yorker dead. Oh
Speaker 2: he was a guy. Yeah man, rest in peace, Rest
Speaker 2: in peace. Man. He dot it when he was sixty seven,
Speaker 2: too young. Life is really not that long. It's really
Speaker 2: not really not that long. That's why you have got
Speaker 2: to tell people that you love them. See if they
Speaker 2: love you back, just say it. It's too short.
Speaker 1: It's also too short not to try some PCP if
Speaker 1: you have the opportunity, if you feel like it, if
Speaker 1: it's in your bingo card, hit that shit. Someone said,
Speaker 1: my hobby's being a broke New Yorker. We're we're doing
Speaker 1: mushrooms and going to Times Square.
Speaker 2: That sounds sick. Yeah, that'd be fun. I don't know
Speaker 2: if I would probably choose time screw would be fun.
Speaker 2: Shrimps it would be, it would be. It's fun. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's fun. I haven't done them in some time, except
Speaker 2: for like a little bit, like a little micro dose.
Speaker 2: You know, people have given me a little micro dose.
Speaker 2: People are talking. I hear a lot of people talking
Speaker 2: about the micro dose. It's fine, it's sort of more.
Speaker 2: I would just rather get high honestly. But you do
Speaker 2: a lot of shrims. It's fun, it's a good time,
Speaker 2: but you got to be prepared for like like eight
Speaker 2: hours of that. It's like a it's a whole thing,
Speaker 2: it's a whole day. Okay. I would go to Times
Speaker 2: Square on shrimps. It'd be fun for a second, as
Speaker 2: long as I could get out out.
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta try that. I've never should I've
Speaker 1: never done. I've never done it before.
Speaker 2: Have you done like Mollie or acid? I've done ecstasy?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, but never.
Speaker 2: Would you? Would you? Have you done? Necessary? Yeah? Are they?
Speaker 1: Are they in any way, shape or form similarly?
Speaker 2: I mean not really No, No, they're different feelings. Mollie
Speaker 2: is what I would suggest, the same is Molly and
Speaker 2: extra different, right, yeah, Ecstasy is usually Molly cut with
Speaker 2: an upper. It's like, well, MDMA is an upper, but
Speaker 2: it's cut with another upper. It's like ecstasy would be
Speaker 2: like Molly and coke, or like Molly and speed or something.
Speaker 1: All I remember from x what I remember for xCD
Speaker 1: is that I remember trying to make myself sad just
Speaker 1: to like see if I could and I couldn't do it?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, something happens in your brain where you literally
Speaker 1: can't be said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had some good ship. That's that's that's what
Speaker 2: it is. And Molly is like that, but even more
Speaker 2: it's like the pure version of that. I guess you
Speaker 2: may have just had Molly. Honestly, it's it's like four hours.
Speaker 2: It's less than shrooms an acid. It's a it's a
Speaker 2: shorter trip three or four hours, and it's just a
Speaker 2: surge of right, Oh man, that's really good. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: really nice.
Speaker 1: It's a good impression of somebody on mom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've done it a few times. I can recall it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's just like this. Even
Speaker 2: the sound of you going is really nice. It's like
Speaker 2: the vibration on the palette. Every little thing feels good.
Speaker 1: When you look out into the crowd and you're doing
Speaker 1: your show. What percentage of people do you think are
Speaker 1: on drugs?
Speaker 2: Oh? You know, I was just about to say, it's
Speaker 2: actually not dissimilar to that feeling looking at if I'm
Speaker 2: having a good show, the audience is good, it's very
Speaker 2: similar to that.
Speaker 1: Do you think do you think a strong a portion
Speaker 1: of the people in your audience are on drugs?
Speaker 2: I would assume a good percentage. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's a majority. I would say probably a majority or
Speaker 2: like drunk okay, but I would say I would wager
Speaker 2: wager twenty to twenty five percent at least as a
Speaker 2: health I would wager that it's health fucked up on something.
Speaker 1: I kind of I just like secretly like hope that
Speaker 1: people who are seeing me are like, oh, Garren sucking
Speaker 1: you kind of hope that because you're like, okay, that
Speaker 1: my bar is a little bit lower here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's these people will be easier to entertain. Right,
Speaker 2: That's true. It's true, And I guarantee you. I would
Speaker 2: say this gotta be at least thirty to forty percent
Speaker 2: of people that are watching this that are for me.
Speaker 2: Oh about for a live thing? Oh on this right now?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we can do a poll even Who's who's
Speaker 2: fucked up in some way? Who someone just took Joe? Oh,
Speaker 2: someone took a three hundred milligram edible before my DC show.
Speaker 2: See there you go. That's a good that's a good
Speaker 2: audience member. Who's fucked up? Anyone fucked up in any way?
Speaker 2: High truck, I'm high yep.
Speaker 1: Stone drug con says they're fucked up on com.
Speaker 2: Someone's fucked up on Come right now.
Speaker 1: Sun said, I just took a bong rip high to
Speaker 1: take another dab.
Speaker 2: I haven't done a dab in a while. Missed though too.
Speaker 2: It's been a hot second. Uh yeah, yeah, pretty much
Speaker 2: everyone in the chat is.
Speaker 1: Ecstasy at your show and shedding. New guy Ivy Profien.
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound safe at all.
Speaker 2: Guys, don't rail ibuprofen.
Speaker 1: It's not a good listen at the end of the
Speaker 1: day with therapy. Gecko says, don't do drugs. Let's do it.
Speaker 2: Let's bring it on home. Let's bring it on home, Mark,
Speaker 2: let's bring around what's going on. We're gonna take one
Speaker 2: last call for the people here.
Speaker 1: You know what we could honestly, you know we could do.
Speaker 1: These are all calls that have been screened. We could
Speaker 1: just take it.
Speaker 2: Sometimes we take just take one that has been screened.
Speaker 2: Love to take a random call that sounds great. Let's
Speaker 2: take something in the queue. Hello, Hello, Hi, ho's going
Speaker 2: It's going good? How are you.
Speaker 5: Dude?
Speaker 9: I'm doing wonderful? How are you?
Speaker 1: Man? I like this guy, and this was a good decision.
Speaker 2: That's a good ad. I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2: Tell us about that day. How's your day been? Uh, dude, my.
Speaker 9: Day's been actually great.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 9: Wait hold on, am I actually on with the GK
Speaker 9: right now?
Speaker 2: You are on with two geks, two double prizes for
Speaker 2: this man, Double GEK, baby d v d A. You
Speaker 2: know how it is?
Speaker 1: What's your name, homie?
Speaker 9: My name is Kyle Goodness.
Speaker 1: Man. We got a first ana last name. We're double
Speaker 1: prizes for both of us.
Speaker 2: Did you did you say Kyle Goodness?
Speaker 11: Good?
Speaker 9: Okay? Yeah, so good rich like the.
Speaker 2: Goodness.
Speaker 9: I'm not wealthy.
Speaker 1: That would be a sick last Goodness gracious? How do
Speaker 1: you do Kyle Goodness? That's the name of a superhero
Speaker 1: that does good deeds.
Speaker 2: You mind if we call you Kyle Goodness?
Speaker 1: Kyle just living in the fantasy that that's your name.
Speaker 9: I'd like you to call me whatever you want?
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, Well listen, Dan, what's going on with you?
Speaker 3: With me? You know?
Speaker 9: Life's that are going great. I've been I've been putting
Speaker 9: in extra effort at work.
Speaker 2: I got a promotion, you know, wow, congratulations? Is it
Speaker 2: a big promotion? Is it a promotion that comes with perks,
Speaker 2: benefits and and the like?
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 9: Well, I mean it doesn't really come with that many
Speaker 9: perks or benefits, but it's a promotion that gets me
Speaker 9: closer to my goal.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and what and what are your goals Kyle?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 9: Well, obviously to to make more money in the long run,
Speaker 9: but uh you know, to be able to have more
Speaker 9: time at home and spend with my friends and family
Speaker 9: and help everybody else around me if they need it.
Speaker 2: Good attitude on the sky, the attitude. I love it.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on life? My friend? Tell us
Speaker 2: about your your general life philosophy. How do you go
Speaker 2: about your life?
Speaker 9: How do I go about my life? Oh that's that's
Speaker 9: a heavy hitter. That's a real heavy hitter. Well, I
Speaker 9: wake up, I procrastinate most things, and then I go
Speaker 9: to work and I try to do the best that
Speaker 9: I can without ripping someone's face off. And then I
Speaker 9: come back home, take a shower, drink you know a
Speaker 9: white car or too, and fucking go to bed. Man.
Speaker 1: God, I love this guy.
Speaker 2: I love it. Simple, effective, well meaning you're not you're
Speaker 2: not harming anybody, You're just doing good.
Speaker 1: This is how all advice calling shows should go. Is
Speaker 1: it to just be people who are very happy with
Speaker 1: absolutely no problems calling in.
Speaker 2: Yeah every time, Hey man, everything's good, pretty good here.
Speaker 1: It's just a person after person calling in to tell
Speaker 1: us about how great everything's going. Not a single problem
Speaker 1: to be found. I mean, you know, Ky, don't want
Speaker 1: to put that on you, Kyle. I mean, is is
Speaker 1: is anything at all going wrong?
Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, of course there's stuff that's going wrong,
Speaker 9: you know, but if you've just focused on the stuff
Speaker 9: that's going wrong, like you're not, you're just gonna dwell
Speaker 9: on that, and you're not going to get anywhere, right,
Speaker 9: keep to yourself and keep going, you.
Speaker 1: Know, right, because there's always however, it doesn't matter how
Speaker 1: whatever rich and whatever great your life is, if you're
Speaker 1: looking for something wrong, you'll find it.
Speaker 2: There will always be bullshit in your life. What's your
Speaker 2: relationship like with your father, Kyle?
Speaker 9: My father? Yeah, So my father wasn't really around much
Speaker 9: of my childhood. Kind of a crazy story there, you know.
Speaker 9: He used to write me letters, but then my mom
Speaker 9: would always hide them and so I didn't get to
Speaker 9: see them until I turned to eighteen. And then when
Speaker 9: I was eighteen, he accused me of sleeping with his wife,
Speaker 9: but I had never met and I had to tell
Speaker 9: whoa no, you know, and then I turned into like
Speaker 9: this whole crazy thing.
Speaker 2: It's actually wild, man, I asked the right question. You
Speaker 2: really did? Do you get so I'm assuming you don't talk,
Speaker 2: you don't keep up with him anymore?
Speaker 10: No, I do.
Speaker 9: I do, because like once I had turned past, you know,
Speaker 9: like I got the full story. But yeah, when it happened,
Speaker 9: originally I was like, bro, I don't know what's happening
Speaker 9: right now.
Speaker 1: Wow, So he was writing you letters that you never saw.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he would write me letters, and he would write
Speaker 9: my mom letters, and then my mom would just hold
Speaker 9: the letters and I never got to see him until
Speaker 9: I was older, like seventeen eighteen years old.
Speaker 2: Oh my god? What was What was the contents of
Speaker 2: these letters?
Speaker 9: The letters were mostly just about like how much he
Speaker 9: missed my mom and wish that he would have done
Speaker 9: things differently, and then on like the side note would
Speaker 9: be about how much he wished he could be were
Speaker 9: a part of my life. Yeah, I mean that's pretty
Speaker 9: much it.
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's heavy. Man. How did that make you
Speaker 2: feel when you saw those letters after all that time?
Speaker 10: Dude?
Speaker 9: I cried. I cried a lot. I cried a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm glad you've reconnected with him in some way,
Speaker 2: even though that I mean, it sounds like the reconnection
Speaker 2: part at first was a little rocky with the accusing
Speaker 2: you of having slept with his wife and shit, that's
Speaker 2: gonna yes, I said a lot.
Speaker 1: So he wrote you these heartfelt letters about how he
Speaker 1: misses you and he misses your mom, and then after
Speaker 1: the fact, started accusing you of sleeping with his wife.
Speaker 9: Yes, so something's going on there, all right, you okay, Now,
Speaker 9: I'm trying to be really positive, but you guys are
Speaker 9: striking like all of the right notes.
Speaker 2: So I don't know how deep you really want me
Speaker 2: to go into the deep end, my friend?
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, I'll go into the deep end.
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: Are you ready?
Speaker 2: Are you ready as deep as you want to go,
Speaker 2: my friend, I've got my snorkel. You can't you know what,
Speaker 2: You can't really go that deep with us? Yeah?
Speaker 9: I was, no, no, get ready. I was in middle school.
Speaker 9: This is Salem, Oregon. My mom was a drug lord.
Speaker 9: We got notified three days ahead of him that we
Speaker 9: were gonna get raided, so my mom cleaned house and
Speaker 9: got busted. I'd go to school the next day to
Speaker 9: find my dad sitting in a room with a bunch
Speaker 9: of cups at my school that he was nowhere near.
Speaker 9: Only to find out that I was no longer going
Speaker 9: to be living with my mom, no longer going to
Speaker 9: this school, and I was going to be living with
Speaker 9: my dad now that I hadn't seen in years, years,
Speaker 9: and his girlfriend. And that's how the whole thing came
Speaker 9: up with like once I turned eighteen years old. He
Speaker 9: didn't I don't want to say accused, maybe that was
Speaker 9: the wrong word, but he asked me if I slept
Speaker 9: with his wife because he wanted to prosecute her with like,
Speaker 9: you know, sleeping with a minor, and she's no, man,
Speaker 9: I don't that ever happened. So that caught me way
Speaker 9: off guard. It was just a wild show.
Speaker 2: My god.
Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy how close we came to having
Speaker 1: this call without you telling us.
Speaker 2: All that, Yeah, just being like all right, God, well
Speaker 2: life is good and life is fun. Thank you.
Speaker 1: We were very close to having just a extremely surface
Speaker 1: level picture, yeah, of who you are and what has
Speaker 1: happened to you in your life?
Speaker 2: Mom, a drug lord dead coming in Yeah, after having God, damn,
Speaker 2: so I mean, this.
Speaker 9: Is a crazy not a story that most people know
Speaker 9: at all.
Speaker 1: Really, you don't tell people everything you know, you don't
Speaker 1: you not a lot of people in your personal life
Speaker 1: know this aboute.
Speaker 9: My ex wife, uh, and maybe two or three other people.
Speaker 2: Would you say that this experience or this series of
Speaker 2: experiences has shaped your positivity your positive outlook on life. Yes,
Speaker 2: I think it has or has it made it more
Speaker 2: difficult easy to stay positive?
Speaker 9: I'm not I'm not trying to like put on a
Speaker 9: show or anything. But again, like I said earlier, you
Speaker 9: can always find negative things to complain about. And really,
Speaker 9: you if you can try to be positive, you're going
Speaker 9: to see more positive things around you rather than like
Speaker 9: when you're in that negative headspace, all you're going to
Speaker 9: see is that negative things around you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's true, man, It's true. I've always said
Speaker 2: that or thought it at least is that.
Speaker 10: It's like.
Speaker 2: It it's an effort, like it is work to find joy.
Speaker 2: For sure, it's work. But you really do have to
Speaker 2: do it if you want to have you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: if you want to go through this life with anything
Speaker 2: but you know, weird ass misery, you really have to
Speaker 2: work towards the positive. It's it's it's a job, it's
Speaker 2: a job.
Speaker 1: Weird ass misery sounds like exact, It sounds like a
Speaker 1: feeling that a.
Speaker 2: Lot of people are still try. It's that gray, that
Speaker 2: unknown sadness that is just there.
Speaker 1: That's if you that's what melancholy, if you have to
Speaker 1: define the word weird ass misery.
Speaker 2: Weird ass misery. So, Kyle, do you do you still talk?
Speaker 9: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: I feel like I forgive you if you said this already.
Speaker 1: We've sort of gone already on a lot of different
Speaker 1: roots here. But you still talk to your mom and
Speaker 1: your dad?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I do still talk to my mom obviously. I
Speaker 9: mean I lived with my mom for ninety nine percent
Speaker 9: of my experience kind of growing up as a kid.
Speaker 9: My dad kind of came in later half in life.
Speaker 9: And then once I got to sit alone in a
Speaker 9: room and think about, like what really happened in life,
Speaker 9: I realized that my mom kind of brainwashed me to
Speaker 9: view my dad as a negative way. But I've never
Speaker 9: really got to view my dad in my own way.
Speaker 9: And so once I really sat aside, especially as I
Speaker 9: grew older, I started to realize, like, nah, he was
Speaker 9: just doing his own thing. Things happened in life and
Speaker 9: he chose a different path that wasn't with my mom.
Speaker 9: And that's okay, even though it heard it's okay.
Speaker 2: That's a very wise thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're young, I mean you're especially if you're
Speaker 1: young and your parents like going through a thing, your
Speaker 1: mom or your dad, your your your mom is gonna
Speaker 1: have a pretty uh big influence over how you view
Speaker 1: your dad because she's telling you a bunch of shit
Speaker 1: about how you should be feeling about your dad. And
Speaker 1: you're young and you're impressionable of course your mom, and
Speaker 1: of course you're gonna believe whatever she says. And then
Speaker 1: I can kind of see the feeling of like getting
Speaker 1: a little bit older and going, oh shit, I actually
Speaker 1: now that I'm a little bit more of an adult,
Speaker 1: I can go and sort of gather this information independently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for my opinion, independently, totally. Yeah, that's It's like
Speaker 2: I hear this from people for sure all the time.
Speaker 2: It's like as you grow older, you realize you just
Speaker 2: come to the realization that your parents, just like you,
Speaker 2: are flawed, broken people. Oh yeah, like that's just it.
Speaker 2: We all are. We are all flawed, broken people. But
Speaker 2: we have this thing where as children, we expect parents
Speaker 2: to be this beacon of maturity and wisdom, and you know,
Speaker 2: and it's just not the case. We're all large children
Speaker 2: and and we have to love each other despite that
Speaker 2: and because of it. I don't know, some bullshit like that.
Speaker 9: It's easier said than done. But if we can try, then.
Speaker 8: That's what matters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got a good head on your shoulders.
Speaker 1: Cal Yeah, Kyle, you really, Uh, this has really been
Speaker 1: a great one to top it off with. Sure has
Speaker 1: I feel like, wait, like there was like layers and layers.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of layers.
Speaker 2: It's true. It sort of encompasses all of the things
Speaker 2: we've been talking. Yeah, it really does. It really does,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, things to come to terms with, you know,
Speaker 2: broken sort of family lives that then are healed in
Speaker 2: their brokenness. Understanding that humans are humans, taking action, finding
Speaker 2: things out for yourself, all of that shit. Yep, you've
Speaker 2: done all of that. Kyle. You're good, dude, You're good, dude.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm so happy that you've been able to
Speaker 2: find peace.
Speaker 4: Kyle.
Speaker 9: I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I'm inspired by the peace you've been able
Speaker 1: to find. I hope that the other kind for any
Speaker 1: other call or any of the of the people who've
Speaker 1: called in who are like dealing with some shit where
Speaker 1: maybe we didn't even have an answer for them or
Speaker 1: anything like. I guess, I guess we can look at
Speaker 1: Kyle as like, look, whatever fucking crazy thing has happened
Speaker 1: to you, there's peace.
Speaker 2: To be found. Find a smile in there somewhere. Find
Speaker 2: a little smile in there.
Speaker 1: Kyle, is there anything you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer, to me, or to Mark, or
Speaker 1: to the or to God before we go?
Speaker 2: He's listening.
Speaker 9: I just want to say thanks, guys. I just want
Speaker 9: to say thanks for taking my call and listening to
Speaker 9: my brief but very surface level abbreviation of my story
Speaker 9: that's called life. We all have a life that's just
Speaker 9: as vivid as my own. So I know I'm not
Speaker 9: alone and neither you carry on, guys, you can make it.
Speaker 2: Couldn't have possibly said it better.
Speaker 1: Kyle Goodness, You're a hero. Take care man.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Kyle Goodness, Everybody give it give it up.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: What a great.
Speaker 1: And it started off innocuous, yeah, and then we dug
Speaker 1: a little bit deep.
Speaker 2: That's how it is with everybody, though, isn't it. It's
Speaker 2: like you're like, hey, how are you? Man, I'm great,
Speaker 2: I'm good. And then but everyone has that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think about that all the time when I'm like
Speaker 1: looking at someone, I'm like, what is what is your
Speaker 1: what is your ship?
Speaker 2: Everyone has it? Everyone's got it, everyone's got it.
Speaker 1: But sometimes like I don't know, Like I like, I'll like,
Speaker 1: I'm like ordering ice cream from the ice cream guy,
Speaker 1: and I'm like.
Speaker 10: What is this?
Speaker 2: Tell me more about it?
Speaker 1: Maybe that's like part of what strong this is? Your
Speaker 1: car is to figure that out from me?
Speaker 2: Man, I think think about all the time. That's you.
Speaker 2: There's a word for this. I think, what's the word.
Speaker 2: There's a word. It's have you ever seen this? Empathy?
Speaker 2: I believe is the word?
Speaker 1: Okay, I know there's this word where it's like the
Speaker 1: realization that every single person is living.
Speaker 2: Is that the word? Sounder right? It's like the it's yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like the realization that of everything, of the inherent
Speaker 2: beauty and complexity of life and everything. Yeah, sonder. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was a very reddit thing, very reddit word. I
Speaker 2: feel like there's a subreddit for it, even.
Speaker 1: Our slash sonder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so you. Okay, So when you were
Speaker 2: going like, uh, popping off on Reddit and ship, what
Speaker 2: was what was the sub that showed you the most
Speaker 2: love videos? Slash videos? Yeah, they would always post me
Speaker 2: in and uh. I think a lot of people got
Speaker 2: sick of it though too. They were like, who's what
Speaker 2: Shill is posting this guy again? But it was just
Speaker 2: random people that were posting me show me a little
Speaker 2: bit of love. And I appreciate all of you did
Speaker 2: that it. Now I'm sitting here with therapy, get go
Speaker 2: and tour in the world, and life is good, and
Speaker 2: I think the Internet. I have the Internet to thank
Speaker 2: pretty much exclusively for that. That's true.
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you wanna either plug or say
Speaker 1: or to the people of the universe before we get
Speaker 1: out of here.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if I really want to plug.
Speaker 2: I already plugged some shit and I don't really like
Speaker 2: advertising stuff. So you can plug, thoughts, you can plug.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I could say really any better
Speaker 2: than Kyle Goodness said it. And and it's really just
Speaker 2: you must, above all try and find love and joy
Speaker 2: in your life, and and and and try and do that.
Speaker 2: By giving it to the people around you, giving it
Speaker 2: to yourself, and and and and try and do you
Speaker 2: know that's the exercise. It's not money or success, it's
Speaker 2: finding little pieces of joy. That is the thing. We
Speaker 2: will all die very soon, so just get that good
Speaker 2: stuff inside of this part of your body and then
Speaker 2: we're then you'll die, and you'll have more of that
Speaker 2: than the tragic ship and that it's the balance that's
Speaker 2: more towards that than the other stuff that's gonna make you.
Speaker 2: There's a very long winded way of just try and
Speaker 2: find happy moments.
Speaker 1: It's a very relevant thing what you're talking about, because
Speaker 1: we're always always trying to find happiness, and it's.
Speaker 2: A hard thing.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow or we're trying to find it yesterday, we're trying
Speaker 1: to find it once well we.
Speaker 2: Regret that we didn't want or maybe we should find her?
Speaker 2: How do I find it over there? Why didn't I
Speaker 2: find it back there? None of that bullshit matters. The
Speaker 2: future literally doesn't exist. It really hasn't it already happened.
Speaker 2: The only thing that actually exists is you and I
Speaker 2: sitting here right now and all of you right there
Speaker 2: watching this happen. So take a big, deep breath and
Speaker 2: find a little bit of joy just right now. Just
Speaker 2: a nice just a that's nice. It's nice. Mark revier Le,
Speaker 2: what a goddamn pleasure, What a goddamn pleasure it has. Indeed,
Speaker 2: thanks for coming, man, thanks for having me. Goes on
Speaker 2: the line, taking your phone calls every night. Goes to
Speaker 2: his eye. Who's teaching you Cloud in the life. He's
Speaker 2: not read an expert.