1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: He's the host of his self titled radio program Hurt Nationwide. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Here's Michael Barry in for Clay Travis at buck Sexton. Well, 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: it's the most talked about podcasts of the past year. 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Doctor Peter McCullough sat down with Joe Rogan and dropped 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: truth bombs everywhere. He's strafed. The landscape was almost too 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: much for people to handle. And Doctor Peter McCullough is 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: our guest. He has a degree from Baylor. He has 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: a medical degree from University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center. 9 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: He's also a Master of Public Health, so the making 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: of policy is within his realm. He has years of 11 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: experience and today we learned about just a few minutes ago, 12 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: is his fifty ninth birthday. So doctor McCullough, we worked 13 00:00:52,200 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: a little something up for you, real quick day birthday. 14 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for lee. Happy birthday, sir, Well, thank you. Did 15 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: you expect the response to your conversation with Joe Rogan? 16 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he has a big platform, but that 17 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: was bigger than his Jordan Peterson, that was bigger than 18 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: Elon Musk smoking a joint on air with him. Are 19 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: you surprised by that? Well, you know, I told Joe Rogan, I, 20 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: you know, I don't have a tattoo on my body. 21 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,279 Speaker 1: I don't cuss, I don't drink, I don't smoke dope. 22 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: So you know, I didn't know if I was going 23 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: to hit the big time with him or not. But 24 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: I did go a full three hours, fifteen rounds with 25 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan took a picture afterwards. I learned that I 26 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: need to hit the weight room. I can tell you 27 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: as a doctor, I told Joe Rogan the same thing 28 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: I told oh Tucker Carlson six months ago. Things are 29 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: going wrong in the COVID nineteen pandemic. Responsive boy, his 30 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: eyes were wide open. Well, you laid it out. I 31 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: mean a year ago you spoke before a committee in 32 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: the Texas Senate and you said all of these things, 33 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: and it was ho hum. Nobody even paid attention to 34 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: any of that. And you called out the vaccine or 35 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: vaccination is the only path approach. You talked about hydroxy chloroquine. 36 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: Nobody seemed to pay attention. They're paying attention now, there 37 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: aren't they they are, And you know, no single drug 38 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: treats COVID nineteen. From the very beginning, I knew we'd 39 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: had to use drugs in combination. Just like with hip, 40 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: people put way too much emphasis on hydroxychlorquin or ivermectin. 41 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: They're valuable, but we use them in combination. In fact, 42 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: we need principle that approach. Basically drugs to reduce vival replication, 43 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: treat the information and blood dinners. So we always used 44 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: in combination. Its use of the combination, which was the 45 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: innovation that actually results in about saving eighty five percent 46 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: of the lives. Loss could have been saved if each 47 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: and every person received prompt treatment early at home, and 48 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: we can identify who's going to get in trouble by 49 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: what's called the stratification. We know older people and people's 50 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: medical problems get in trouble, they need early achievement. That 51 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: was the bomb show. That's what got the attention that 52 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: you said, it's not just that this is how we 53 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: treat this, it is that that was and I don't 54 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: want to put words in your mouth, that was withheld 55 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: that central messaging because they wanted an alternative, which was 56 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: the vaccine. Is that correct. We've gone through two presidents, 57 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: white House Task for US, two surgeon generals, all our 58 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: public health leaders. Nobody stated the problem. The problem was 59 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen was causing Americans to be hospitalized in dying, 60 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: and that the solution was get a team of doctors 61 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: in place to stop these hospitalizations and deaths. It was 62 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: never stated. It was never stated as nobody could state 63 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: the problem or an objective in terms of accomplishment. And 64 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: so when our leaders basically can't state with the problem is, 65 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: they'll never find a solution. But do you think they 66 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: want to state the problem? You put it out there, 67 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: these weird connections between the Gates Foundation, the Wuhan Lab, 68 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: Johns Hopkins, and the Planning seminar back in twenty seventeen 69 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: about a global coronavirus pandemic, all these related events and 70 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: institutions that were organizing long before COVID nineteen was a thing. 71 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: It sure starts to look like a conspiracy. I mean, 72 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: am I going crazier? Is that real? You know? I'm 73 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: not the expert in the conspiracy. I'm glad you use 74 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: the word conspiracy and not conspiracy theory. But there are 75 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: really good books, and I pointed Joe Rogan to these books. 76 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: I think the bickest one is Peter Bregan COVID nineteen 77 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: and the Global Predators We Are the Prey. I wrote 78 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: one of the introductions for it, but there's also Won 79 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: by Robert F. Kennedy, That's out the Real Emthony Faucif, 80 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: Pam Popper, COVID nineteen, Operation Giant Andrews, and now most 81 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: recently Scott Atlas about what was going on in the 82 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: White House. All those books are nonfiction. All of them 83 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: have very accurate citations. None of them are hyperbole, none 84 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: of them are conspiracy theories, and people can read them 85 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: and come up with their own conclusions. But one of 86 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: those conclusions many have come up with is that there 87 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: was considerable planning, whether it was just you know, ideal 88 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: pandemic response planning and COVID nineteen happened, just happened at 89 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: the right time, or whether or not there was a 90 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: readiness here that there was going to be a virus 91 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: and that the response was going to be a really 92 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: comprehensive global vaccilation program. Headline even on CNN just a 93 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: few minutes ago, breaking news, FDA says at home antigen 94 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: tests less sensitive to omicron strain, which would mean, of 95 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: course the at home test is not very effective. Should 96 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: people be testing like this for what is effectively the 97 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: common cold. Well, we're at the point, boy, Omicron just 98 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: beat all numbers. So our omicron peak is bigger than 99 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: the pre vaccination peak. So if anybody thinks the vaccines 100 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: are doing anything, take a look at these epidemic curves. 101 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: It's obvious since we've vaccinated, things are getting far worse, 102 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: and we have more patient sick with COVID now than 103 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: we've ever had before. Now, the good news with omicron 104 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: is that it's very mild and very brief, and I 105 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: my phone is blowing up with omicon cases right now 106 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: and two one or mild and brief. Every so often 107 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: there'll be somebody who needs some treatment. It's pretty minimal 108 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: and we can get them through it. I've used just 109 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: a handful of times, the monoclonal antibodus with Glaxo Smith 110 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: Climb social ribb MAB, which are effective against omicron, and 111 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: then some oral drugs and combination. We take precautions, but 112 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: I can tell you I've been so impressed with how 113 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: brief and mild omicron is. It swept through my family, 114 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: able to see it firsthand, people in my house over 115 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: the holidays, age five to age ninety eight, watching them 116 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: get through omicronic easily. It does break through the natural immunity, 117 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: and it breaks through vaccine immunity. But those immune statuses 118 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: may not be a bad thing because the vaccine immunity 119 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: and the natural immunity may make it milder. But even 120 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: people who have not taken a vaccine, and they haven't 121 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: headed my experiences so far, it's a very old illness 122 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: and data from South Africa is showing us that very 123 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: few people get houspilized, very few people in very low 124 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: risk of death. And also out of Scotland and also 125 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: out of Israel, Doctor McCullough, you have talked a lot 126 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: about natural immunity and some have referred to this omicron 127 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: as a blessing that will accelerate the end because it's 128 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: nature's vaccine that you've said, if I understand it that 129 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: you're basically immune after you contract the virus, including omicron, 130 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: it would appear. So this is the best quote unquote 131 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: vaccine you can get natural immunity. The news broke out 132 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: of the African Research Institute. First author is Khn. It 133 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: appeared in pre print and it just came out. It 134 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: was a small number of subjects, but it showed that 135 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: people who developed omicron basically head back immunity against delta, 136 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: and we know it's far more difficult, far more lethal syndrome. 137 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: And this was amazing information. And uh, it explains why 138 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: omicron is going to dominate because basically multiply sappy times 139 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: faster than delta, and if it actually helps a person 140 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: form against delta, that means omicron is out competing delta 141 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,599 Speaker 1: for more patients. Do you see what I mean? So, 142 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: so omicron is going to in a sense take over 143 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: because it's going to block out delta. So it's the 144 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: most interesting thing. So here we have a new strain 145 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:04,239 Speaker 1: which is peating against the old strain for its own dominance, 146 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: and by doing so, it's creating immunity against the old strain. 147 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: And so Marty Mackery from Johns Hopkins was on a 148 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: Handed the Hour last night basically told America, listen, this 149 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: looks like Mother Nature's booster. It's boosting both the vaccinated 150 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: the unvaccinate, it's boosting the naturally immune. And I came 151 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: out with an op ed a brief post in America 152 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: about Talk Radio of the mccullo report, and then Daniel 153 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: Harwitz on Blaze Media, Marty Macarie last night. We all 154 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: basically are saying, it looks like this could be an 155 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: unbelievable blessing if we could get through this. That this 156 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: is Mother Nature's booster, which sounds a lot like what 157 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: we used to do with chickenpox parties. As a kid, 158 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: get it while it's mild, so you won't when you're old. 159 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: Or is it even really a vaccine in the traditional 160 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: sense of the word. I'll ask that of doctor Peter McCullough. 161 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: Coming up, I'm Michael Berry and for Clay Travis and 162 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton. Classes are back in session here at the 163 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: Institutes of Advanced Conservative Studies, Clay, Travis and Box sects 164 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: on the EIB network. I'm Michael Barry in for Clay 165 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: and but doctor Peter McCullough is our guest. Doctor McCullough, 166 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: the word vaccine has a very powerful meaning, and words 167 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: have meaning. Do you think that this is, in the 168 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: traditional sense of the word a vaccine? No, Because this 169 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: set of technologies at least fives their MADERNA at Johnson 170 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: Johnson their genetic transfer technology programs. They're considered by the 171 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: USFDA as genetic treatments to try to change genetic actions 172 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: that's occurring within cells in the human body. So they're 173 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: not by ffinition vaccines. They fall under different biological products. Well, 174 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: and they've changed the definition before all this the definition 175 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: for vaccination read quote the act of introducing a vaccine 176 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease. 177 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: Now they've changed immunity to protection, which obviously has a 178 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: different meaning because it doesn't provide immunity. Does that matter? 179 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: It matters because I think the expectations when someone takes 180 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: one of these shots that they're not going to get COVID, 181 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: And what the new definition says is that they take 182 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: one of the shots, they can go ahead and get COVID. 183 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: And now the objective has been changed. There have been 184 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: some Israeli doctors and scientists who've joined together and they've 185 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: said to the effect that hey, these boosters might be 186 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: doing more harm than good. Do you think that's possible? 187 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: I think it is because each time one of these 188 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: vaccines has taken the genetic materials installed into the body, 189 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: the genetic material lasts for a period of time. No 190 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: one knows how long, but it can be months or more, 191 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: and then they trick the body into producing the dangerous 192 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: spike protein that came out of the lab and Muhan, China. 193 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: And the spike protein then gets deposited in the body. 194 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: It depends on where the lipid nanoparticles skill, but the 195 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: spike protein could be produced and then deposited in critical 196 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: organs and it does, including the brain, the heart, the 197 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: bone marrow. And now we know from several papers that 198 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: the spike protein last in the body for more than 199 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: a year. And so the bottom lines with each shot 200 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 1: now the body never gets a chance to clear out 201 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: the spike protein. Now we have a dangerous foreign protein 202 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: installed in the human body throughout critical tissues. So I 203 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: think without a doubt there's great concerns that the boosters 204 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: now are going to lead to progressional accumulation of spike protein. 205 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: And that's bad Wine. It's bad because the spike protein 206 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: is proven FDA GREEF to cause blood clots. That's not good, 207 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: blood clots in critical areas in the body. And then 208 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: also it's proven that the spike protein damages the heart 209 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: muscle cells. And that's the reason why the DA has 210 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: warnings for both blood clots and microdiitis, a heart damage. 211 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: We don't want a protein in our body. That's going 212 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: to damage our organs. I think you mentioned that you've 213 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: used the Strava mob monoclonal. Why why aren't we using 214 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: more monoclonal antibodies. Why aren't we making more well? I 215 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: think we have enough made Monocle Economics, Head of Peace 216 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: n this back in November twenty twenties, huge purchase contracts 217 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: and there's rapid throughput for these monoclonal antibodies. The reason 218 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: why they're not being used is because our agencies are 219 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: not advising health systems and doctors groups to use them, 220 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: and so they're not given any visibility. In fact, those 221 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: groups are drowned out with promotional ads and other campaigns 222 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: to only promote the vaccine, so patients have no access 223 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: to these. There's no billboards telling patients where to find them. 224 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: There's no way, not one in a hundred numbers. There 225 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: are no there's no messaging coming down through doctors systems 226 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: on how to get patients actively treated. None of the hospitals, 227 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: medical schools, and major medical centers even have comprehensive altpatient 228 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: treatment programs. So you know, the antibodies are fine, but 229 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: we don't go alone. We need to use steroids of 230 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: antiquagulants and other drugs. In fact that no single medical 231 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: center even has an outpatient treatment program for patients. Should 232 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: we be wearing masks? Masks essentially are something that don't 233 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: work generally. I'm a doctor, I wear a mask at work. 234 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: I don't mind doing that. Autists, nurses, we've worn masks 235 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: for a year. They're not a big galt. Probably it's 236 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: courtesy to the stop the big sties, but they don't 237 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: stop spread of this virus. It's too small, it's too ubiquitous, 238 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: and public masking in clinical trials is shown not to work. 239 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: Does social distancing make any difference? You know? I doubt 240 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: it unless the distance is really great. The best social distances, 241 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: by the way, is outside. The virus doesn't spread very 242 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: much outside at all. Studies from Singapore have demonstrate that 243 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: that's the reason why we see Americans back at football 244 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: games and everything else, and might not seeing outbreaks that 245 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: are attributable to these tablet gatherings. Stay outside is a 246 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: good move. Social distancing inside I doubt that it can 247 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: make a difference. I think there exchange is more important. 248 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: You want six eight are exchanges in any room per hour? 249 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: And then as much outside activity as possible. I have 250 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: one minute left. Doctor Peter McCullough. Is Anthony Fauci an idiot? 251 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: Or is he a bad person? Scott Atlas book? He 252 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: thinks he's incompetent. Rfk's book indicates that maybe he's a 253 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: bad person. And I don't know. I'm not in a 254 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: position to opine. All I need to say is that 255 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: we need teams of qualified doctors in Washington leading a 256 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: pandemic response. We haven't seen that, No, we haven't. Take 257 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: thirty seconds and tell us what we can do to 258 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: put ourselves in a better position to fight off this virus. 259 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: Everybody should have six things at home. One is a 260 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: bottle of paviadon iodine for five dollars online. Make a 261 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: dilute solution half a teaspoon one point five ounces and 262 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: snorted up the nose, sniffed back and spit it out 263 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: that if cleanses and knows, do it twice a day 264 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: to prevent the spread of the virus. Have some other 265 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: supplements zinc, vitamin D, vitamin C, Christen and over the 266 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: counter medicine called PEP sitter from otading. Have that survival 267 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: kid and be ready to jump into action when Omicron 268 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: hits You're the best doctor. Peter McCullough coming up. Congressman 269 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan. They altered his text to say something they didn't. 270 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: They wouldn't let him serve on the January sixth committee. 271 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: The shouldn't even be holding committee meetings. He'll tell us 272 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: what's going on there. I'm Michael Berry and for Clay 273 00:16:49,240 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: Travis in Bug Sexton. You're listening due a Travis and 274 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton on the EIB Network Clay Travis and Buck 275 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Sitting in for Clay and Buck today syndicated 276 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: radio personality Michael Barry on the EIB Network. January eleventh 277 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: of this year, President Trump awarded Jim Jordan the Presidential 278 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: Medal of Freedom, the same award that Rush Limbaugh received 279 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: a year before. Jim Jordan is the ranking member of 280 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: the House Judiciary Committee. He was previously the ranking member 281 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: of the House Oversight Committee. He is one of the 282 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: founding members of the House Freedom Caucus, and he's our guest. Congressman. Welcome, 283 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: It's good to be with you, Michael. Hope you and 284 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: your family had a great Christmas and happy New Year. 285 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: A couple of days at we did indeed, sir, and 286 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: you're making the people of Ohio very proud. I must say, 287 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: let's talk January sixth. I don't know if you've seen 288 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: the movie yet, but my friend Nick Sarcy made a movie. 289 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: He was there on January sixth. He's made a documentary 290 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: and it's very disturbing to see what's happening. It's called 291 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: Capital Punishment the movie. You can find it at Capital 292 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: Punishment the movie dot com. But there is a lot 293 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: in there that relates to you. First of all, why 294 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: is there a January sixth committee meeting? And why are 295 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: you not on that committee? Well, for the because Democrats 296 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: have broken just about any every president, every norm, every 297 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: principle that our great country has this past Congress. I 298 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: mean they have proxy voting, they won't let Republicans sit 299 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: on committees. They won't let Republicans be named to select committees. 300 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: Mister Banks and I were in that category there. They 301 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: spied on the president's campaign, they did impeachment in secret. Uh. 302 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: They're looking to make DC estate. They're looking in the 303 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: electrical College, they're looking in the filibus, are looking to 304 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,959 Speaker 1: pack the court. They're looking to nationalize elections, and they 305 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: want to allow illegal immigrants to vote. So you tell 306 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: me what norm what president they haven't haven't broken um 307 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: and you couple all that with everything they've done policy wise, 308 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: which has been a just a complete disaster. So the 309 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: old thing they got to talk about this January sixth issue, 310 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: and I think they're I think they're they're they're they're 311 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,959 Speaker 1: doing all kinds of things wrong there with with what 312 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: they did with executive privilege, are destroying executive privilege when 313 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: two and a half weeks ago they tried to put 314 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: their trying to put my good friend, former chiefest Staff 315 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: Mark Meadows in prison. So there is nothing that you 316 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: can't put past these guys. Now they're they're trying things 317 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: that we never thought you would see in our great country. Um. 318 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: So it's just just the Democrats are up to Well, 319 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold on Meadows because that's a line of 320 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: questioning I want to go down in just a moment. 321 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: But they put Nancy Pelosi put two virulent never Trump 322 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: Republicans on that committee, Liz Cheney and Adam kin Singer. 323 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: That seems to be making a mockery of the process. 324 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: That's partisanship on a level I don't know that we've 325 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: seen in the modern era. What's been the response of 326 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: your of your colleagues. How do the Democrats hold their 327 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: heads up after this? Well, I think the better the 328 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: response that really matters is responsive. They may people. The 329 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: American people see this for what it is. I mean, 330 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: unless you work at CNN or MSNBC or right for 331 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: the New York Times or the Washington Post, you see 332 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: this for what it is. This is a complete partisan 333 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: activity where you have all Democrats on this committee and 334 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: then then to two Republicans who who've never been for 335 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: the president. So um, the American people see it for 336 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: what it is. And the Democrats have to talk about 337 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: this film, Michael, because what are they going to talk 338 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: about the border? Are they going to talk about the 339 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: record inslation, They're gonna talk about the record crime. They're 340 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: going to talk about the debacle that was the exit 341 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: from Afghanistan. I mean you you're gonna talk about we 342 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: went from an energy independent country to now gas prices 343 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: and are where they are up fifty some percent and 344 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: the President's begging OPEC to increase production. I mean, you 345 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: you can go any issue you want, and this administration 346 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: has screwed it up even even the COVID issue, which 347 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: was what Joe Biden ran on. They have completely screwed 348 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: that up. Not to mention what they've done to our 349 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: First Amendment liberties because of their of their so called 350 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: COVID COVID dealing with a COVID process. Congressman Jim Jordan 351 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: is our guest. You've pointed out how this committee is 352 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: misleading the American public by altering a text you forwarded 353 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: to Mark Meadows. For folks who don't know what happened there, 354 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: explain that. Please at a lawyer who put together a 355 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: long text to me and then had an accompanying document. 356 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: This is this is a downtown lawyer, former Inspector General 357 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: for for Don Rumsfeld, the well respected lawyer in town, 358 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: Naval Academy, Grad, Stanford Law School, UM put this together. 359 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: I simply forwarded the text portion of his message, forwarded 360 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: that to the Chiefest Chiefest staff, and of course Adam 361 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: Schiff deletes most of the message, presented it as if 362 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: it's a one single sentence that I sent to mar 363 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,239 Speaker 1: change the punctuation, put that up on screen as if 364 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: it was the text itself, and said it was from me. 365 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: So it was wrong on so many accounts. But I 366 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 1: guess the point is this shouldn't surprise us with this 367 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: particular member of Congress. I mean, this is the same 368 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: guy who told us that we were going to get 369 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: to hear from the whistle blower. This is the same 370 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: guy told us his office had no contact with the 371 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: whistle blow when in fact they did. This is the 372 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: same guy who told us there was more than circumstantial 373 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: evidence that the President Trump had colluded with Russia when 374 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: there was no evidence of any such thing because it 375 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: didn't happen. This is this is the same guy who 376 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: who started a hearing read this whole this whole thing 377 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: transcript from the call. But it was later he had 378 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: to say it was a parody because he was actually 379 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: altering the message. So time and time again he's misled 380 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: the American people. I guess, so we probably shouldn't be surprised. 381 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: What what's the strategy is that to take Trump down? What? Why? Meadows? Yeah, No, 382 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: it's because he's the closest guy to the president. Remember 383 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: we there were three advisors who have the closest relationship 384 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: to the president United States, the National Security Advisor of 385 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: the White House Council and the chiefest staff, and I 386 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: would argue, and I said this on the House floor, 387 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: I would argue, the chiefestaff is the closest he's and 388 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: certainly with Mark that was the case. I know the 389 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: amount of time he spent he spent u in conversations 390 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: and discussions with the President on all kinds of it. Shoot, 391 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: so um, the idea that that that's not privileges is 392 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: just ridiculous. But these these Democrats, they don't care. They're 393 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: all about getting after the president. And they said, who 394 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: better than to go after the chiefest aff so we 395 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: can get the President Trump. And their ultimate Golemichael is 396 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: they don't want President Trump to run because they know 397 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: in light of all he did for the country, all 398 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: he accomplished with everyone in that town against him, and 399 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: the terrible record of Joe Biden in just eleven months, 400 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: they see what's coming. They see the Republican wave. I 401 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: think that's coming in November of next year, and they 402 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: see President Trump coming in twenty twenty four, and they're 403 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: trying to do everything they can to stopping so much 404 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: so that they'll alter documents. And like the American people, 405 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: how often you talk to President Trump? I still talk 406 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: to him every every week. It's this typical Mark still 407 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: talks to him a lot, of course, and you know, 408 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: he's a good man. I think he's gonna run. And 409 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean you know this too, You've talked about this. 410 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: But he accomplished more, did more of what he said 411 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: he would do than any president in history. And he 412 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: did it with every single Democrat in the town against him, 413 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: everyone in the mainstream press against him, everyone in the 414 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: bureaucracy against him, and a bunch of Republicans against him. 415 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: Still and he's still got more done than any president 416 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: and certainly in my lifetime. So um, that's the kind 417 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: of guy we want leading. But that's the kind of 418 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: guy the swamp doesn't want. And that's why this January 419 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: Committee so out to getting. I'm going to leave the 420 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: Democrats aside for a moment. Let's just talk about the 421 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: Republican members of the House. What percentage of them, if 422 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: to truthfully cast a vote that no one would see, 423 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: would vote against him. What percentage of them don't actually 424 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: like him? Like President? Oh? I think most of them do. 425 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: I think the vast majority do, and certainly the vast 426 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: majority of Republicans across this country. Deal. I know that, 427 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: but I wonder about members of Congress. How many of 428 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: Liz Cheneys there are, how many kid singers there are? 429 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: They're they're not many, not many. Um, I mean, I mean, look, um, 430 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 1: they're they're a handful. Uh that that are you know, 431 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: they're they're they're living, Adam. I think the vast majority 432 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: of the Republican Party understands that Presidents ups has made 433 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: our party what it always should have been. I've always 434 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: said that the Republican Party, we're a populist party rooted 435 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: in conservative principle, and that's that's where we should have 436 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: been all on that was, That's that's that's just the 437 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: principle who we are today. And President Trump understands that 438 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: he truly loves the country, loves our military, our veterans, 439 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: our law enforcement, regular people who listen to your show, 440 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: who listen to Claim Buck, regular people make the country work. 441 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: And that's who our party is. And I think the 442 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: vast majority of Republicans in the House certainly understand that. 443 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: Congressman Jim Jordan hole with me for just a moment. 444 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: I will ask coming up, will Republicans, when they take 445 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: back the House this coming November, investigate Anthony Fauci and 446 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: I will ask why why Jim Jordan is not talked 447 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: about as the next Speaker of the House. I think 448 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: you would. You would excite the base if you did that. 449 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: And a Congressman spoke out against the Freedom Caucus saying 450 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: that they're actually just grift and performance artists. The response 451 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: of Jim Jordan to that all coming up. I'm Michael 452 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: Barry and for Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. You voices 453 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: say message Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the EIB network. 454 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm Michael Berry in for Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 455 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: We are honored to have Congressman Jim Jordan, the most 456 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: conservative member of the House, as our guest. I don't 457 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: think you'll find anyone to protest that claim Congressman. Earlier 458 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:46,479 Speaker 1: this month, Houston Area Congressman Dan Crenshaw was at a 459 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: campaign of it, and he was campaigning for some other congressman, 460 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: but he seemed to take a shot. I don't think 461 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: he realized he was he was being recorded. He seemed 462 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: to take a shot at the House Freedom Caucus. I'm 463 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: going to play this for you, and I want to 464 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: get your reaction because I've been in Congress for almost 465 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: three years now. There's two types and numbers of Congress. 466 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: There's performance artists, there's legislators. Performance artists are the ones 467 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: that get all the attention, the ones you think are 468 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: more conservatively because they know how to say slogans real well, 469 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: you know how to recite the lines that they know 470 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: that our voters want to hear. Let me tell you, 471 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: guys something, in the first two years of Trump's presidency, 472 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: when Republicans were in control, when every single time we 473 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: were voting on Donald Trump's agenda, who do you think 474 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: it was at the top of that list voting with Trump? 475 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: And who do you think was at the bottom? A 476 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: lot of names, you would recognize her at the bottom 477 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: of that list. Bot of dames, you would recognize her 478 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: at the top of that list. Number two. It's probably 479 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: gonna make a craze a little bit. Fatam Kid singer 480 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: voting Trump almost nine to nine percent. He was number two, 481 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: but it was at the bottom. Everybody, all of them. 482 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: I'm going to play that last line again because I 483 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: want to be clear it's an all inclusive statement. Is 484 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: that a bottom? Everybody's all of them, everybody in the 485 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: Freedom Caucus, all of them. Your thoughts. Well. I mean, look, 486 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: Dan Crenshall is a great member of Congress obviously as 487 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: provided a tremendous service to our our country. I think 488 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: I think the members of the Freedom Caucus, which I'm 489 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: obviously a part of, our great members of Congress who 490 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: are also serving, um, serving our country in Congress like 491 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: Dan is and some of them actually served our country 492 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: in uniform as mister Crenshall day as well. So look, 493 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's trying to be performers or anything else. 494 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: I think all of us are trying to do what's best. 495 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: And I know for just as sure as I'm talking 496 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: to you, Michael, that the Freedom Caucus is the group 497 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: of people closest to closest to President Trump. Um. And 498 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: I think Frank frankly, if you asked the President Dad, 499 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: he'd probably say the same same thing. So um, what 500 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm what I'm focused on is making sure Republicans understand 501 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: what the Democrats are trying to do to this great nation. 502 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: I mean, think about think about everything we talked about, 503 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: this is the last segment, all the norms they have broken. 504 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: Think about our First Amendment liberties, every you're right to 505 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: practice your faith, you're right to assemble, you're right to 506 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: petition government, your freedom of the press, and freedom of speech. 507 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: Every single one of those has been assaulted, and doctor 508 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: Falk wants to keep doing it, and he wants to 509 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: make it even worse. So that's what I'm focused on, 510 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: and frankly, I think that's exactly what Kevin McCarthy has 511 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,479 Speaker 1: been focused on, which is which is exactly the right 512 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: approach and has brought our party together better than any 513 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: leader we have had in certainly my time in Congress. 514 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: And I appreciate that back and that's what That's what 515 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to stay focused on over the next ten 516 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: and a half months as we get ready to take 517 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: back the House of Representative. If Kevin McCarthy asked you 518 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: to serve as Speaker House, would you do? So, Kevin 519 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: McCarthy is going to be the Speaker of the House. 520 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: I think we are going to take it. And now, look, 521 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: we should never get over confident about this election, but 522 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: we should bust our tail. I know you got that 523 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: same attitude, and conservative across this country have that attitude. 524 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: We should bust our tail, work hard, go campaign hard, 525 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: and win this thing back. But I think it's going 526 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: to happen, and when it does, I think Kevin McCarty 527 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: is going to be the Speaker of the House. I 528 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: think that's the right call. And what I want to 529 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: do is I want to be Lord Willing Chairman of 530 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: the Judiciary Committee, which historically has been the committee most 531 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: focused on protecting the Bill of Rights, most focused on 532 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: protecting your First Amendment liberties. And we have seen anything 533 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: but that from Democrats. And so what I want to 534 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: do is, if I get the chance to lead that committee, 535 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: is return the focus to that and do the type 536 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: of investigations that have to happen so the American people 537 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: get the truth about what's going on with the Democrats, 538 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: particularly what Fauci did would gain a function in the 539 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: lab leek and everything else. That's one of the first 540 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: investigations House Republicans should do if in fact we gets 541 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: my question. The first thing you would do are among them, 542 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: would be to investigate Anthony Fauci for the gain of 543 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: function research in Wuhan. And you're saying, yes, that is 544 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: a commitment your book. We have to do that, which 545 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: is that we have to let me just yeah, if 546 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: I could real quickly, we have to do that. I 547 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: mean our tax dollars went to this place, doctor Fauchi knew. 548 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: On January thirty first, twenty twenty, he gets an email 549 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: from Christian Anderson, who also was receiving our tax dollars, 550 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: one of these virologists getting grant money from from the 551 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: American taxpayer. And he gets an email from Christian Anderson 552 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: to doctor Fauchi January thirty first, twenty twenty, almost two 553 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: years ago, and that email says, virus looks engineered. Virus 554 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: not consistent with evolutionary theory. That is a fancy way 555 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: of saying this thing came from the lab. And what 556 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: has Fauchi done since that every cancy gets he downplays 557 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: the lab league theory, downplays the fact that it was 558 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: gain a function research going on over there with our 559 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: tax dollars. So we need an investigation to fully show 560 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: the American people exactly what he did. I want to 561 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: get to your book in just a moment. But Joe 562 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: Biden this week said there are no federal solutions to 563 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: the virus, which I'm happy to see him giving power 564 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: back to the states. You're pretending to how do we 565 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: get rid of the mandates short of the Supreme Court ruling, Well, 566 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: the Supreme Courts and take the case up here in 567 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: a few days. So that's that's a good time. And 568 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: I love to hear that the presidents say that, you know, yeah, 569 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: we would love a Ron DeSantis solution. You know the 570 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: state that Florida, what Ron de Santa has done, some 571 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: other governors have done, They've taken the right approach versus 572 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: this federal thing. And you're exactly right. The key takeaways 573 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: if it's not a federal if there's no federal solution, 574 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: then stop. The federal mandates were goodness sake. But Falci's 575 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: going just the other direction. He's saying, Oh, now you're 576 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: going to have to have a vaccine to get on 577 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: a domestic air flight. I mean, this is crazy where 578 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: they want to take it. It's again underscores why we 579 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: have to elect Republicans and why we need President Trump 580 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: back in the White House. Your book, which came out 581 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: in November twenty three, do what you said you would 582 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: do fighting for freedom in the swamp. What are the doable, 583 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: actually accomplishable items that you can get through if we 584 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: win back the House. Because as you know, a lot 585 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: of folks are frustrated, They feel like things don't always 586 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: get accomplished when they should after they worked hard to 587 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: get people elected. Yeah, So to two main avenues. One, 588 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: we have to pass legislation that Joe Biden molt signed, 589 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: but we need to pass it to show the country 590 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: if you give us a Republican president twenty four, this 591 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: is the kind of stuff that we will get passed. 592 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: Great example will be take away the liability protection big 593 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: tech company staff so called Section two thirty. Pass that 594 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: send it to the White House. Joe Biden a veto it, 595 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,719 Speaker 1: but show the country we're committed to doing that and 596 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: other things that we fix the wall, fix the immigration, 597 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: fix the border, do the security on the border that 598 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: needs happen, and get rid of catch and release. Pass 599 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: that legislation's Joe Biden will veto, but show the country. 600 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: Draw up the framework in the contrast for the twenty 601 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: twenty four presidential campaign, and then do the investigations in 602 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: addition to the Fauci investigation, gain a function and lablak 603 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: instead of in addition to that investigation, we need to 604 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: we need to investigate the Department of Justice. Yes we do. 605 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: Congressman Jim Jordan, thank you for being our guest. Coming 606 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: up the only way to fight CRT critical race theory 607 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: is to beat him in the courts. The man who 608 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: is bringing the cases, he'll be our guest. I'm Michael 609 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: Berry and for Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. You're listening 610 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the EIB Network.