WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 010122 What are Some Positive Outcomes for Black America From 2021? (Part B)

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<v Speaker 1>And now watching my mic back, you're like that journal time.

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<v Speaker 2>We just strikes with Waters from headquarters behind him and

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<v Speaker 2>the line the border.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're just tuning into Civic Picherami host Rams this Joah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Go by the name of q War, DJ q Ward

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<v Speaker 3>or just q This.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed maybe the legend himself.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe the rumor of Rams says really out

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<v Speaker 3>of pocket things sometimes on the radio. That was one

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<v Speaker 3>of them.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, not at all, well deserved. Anyway, be sure

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<v Speaker 1>to stick around because we got more positive outcomes from

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<v Speaker 1>the year twenty twenty one for you. Uh, We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be talking about some vot right stuff. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about the census, cancel culture, some just some

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<v Speaker 1>some topics that we've discussed on the show that we

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<v Speaker 1>believe have evolved in a in a positive way. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a positive trend associated with these things, and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to share them all with you. But first, like

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<v Speaker 1>we always do at this time, let's discuss how to

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<v Speaker 1>become a better ally, shall we?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed, so we are going to talk about voting rights initiatives,

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<v Speaker 1>So again be sure to stick around for that. But

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<v Speaker 1>we're still in the middle of making sure that voting

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<v Speaker 1>rights are protected and that voting is easy and accessible

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<v Speaker 1>for marginalized communities, and one such entity that is still

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<v Speaker 1>bringing the heat toward that end is the NAACP. The NAACP,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't know, is the National Association for the

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<v Speaker 1>Advancement of Colored People. Granted, it's an old term, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's an old institution, and they are the largest and

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<v Speaker 1>most influential civil rights organization in the nation via the

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<v Speaker 1>work that they do. Advancing political, educational, social, and economic

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<v Speaker 1>equality for Black people in the United States depends on

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<v Speaker 1>the generosity of supporters like you, and what you can

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<v Speaker 1>do to become a better ally is head to NAACP

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<v Speaker 1>dot org slash donate and you can make a fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>dollars donation to continue challenging in justice across America. At present,

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to reach a one hundred and fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars goal and your help would be appreciated, So please

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<v Speaker 1>consider again making that fifteen dollars donation to the NAACP

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<v Speaker 1>to help bolster the fight against inequality and to protect

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<v Speaker 1>voting rights, which is very necessary, especially in marginalized communities

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<v Speaker 1>and communities where they're more susceptible to gerrymandering, and the

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<v Speaker 1>value of the individual will vote is diminished. If you

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<v Speaker 1>believe in becoming a better ally once again, visit na

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<v Speaker 1>A cp dot org slash donate.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know our political system can make it very

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<v Speaker 3>easy to get discouraged with the way the whole thing works.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've you know, heard people say to my face

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<v Speaker 3>that their vote didn't count. And you know, there's certain

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<v Speaker 3>things that reaffirm those feelings. Be a better ally, be

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<v Speaker 3>a better part of our union. You know, do your

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<v Speaker 3>civic duty, vote, pay attention to what's going on. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>just don't be me and just complain all negative.

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<v Speaker 2>Vote.

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<v Speaker 3>We need that very very active in our in our

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<v Speaker 3>in our you know, our civic process. But I know

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<v Speaker 3>because I get discouraged sometimes. And it's not just me. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes we don't get the outcomes that we feel like

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<v Speaker 3>we deserve, and promises are made that are not kept,

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<v Speaker 3>and it makes you say, what am I doing this for.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's not let ourselves become those who just observe, don't

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<v Speaker 3>just watch participate. Sure, I love that, And you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>there are some people who do just that.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't just watch, they participate and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>shout them out because they came up on the show

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<v Speaker 1>this year and they shared a story and their story

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<v Speaker 1>ended up having a positive outcome. Their names are Zara,

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<v Speaker 1>Mimi and Mustani. There was a video that went viral

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<v Speaker 1>this year and it had I believe it was last

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<v Speaker 1>time I checked, it was like five million views. Certainly

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<v Speaker 1>a very engaging video on our social media as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We have it up on our Instagram and it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of our more viewed videos on our YouTube page and

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<v Speaker 1>on and on. But it's just a lot of engagement

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<v Speaker 1>for those who don't know. Zara, Mimi, and Mustani are

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<v Speaker 1>all students at Arizona State University. They, Zara especially and

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<v Speaker 1>I believe Mimi as well, worked with Arizona State to

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<v Speaker 1>create a multicultural center, a space where they could be

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<v Speaker 1>protected from a lot of the I'm not a student

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<v Speaker 1>at ASU anymore, I did go to school there, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they wanted a space where they could share

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<v Speaker 1>black ideas and have black conversations and not feel that

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that a lot of times non white folks have

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<v Speaker 1>in the presence of white people in this country, where

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like your things are alien, your things might

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<v Speaker 1>be ridiculed. You know, they wanted a safe space where

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<v Speaker 1>they could have black convers stations. Imagine two Spanish speaking

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<v Speaker 1>people having a conversation in Spanish, their native language, that

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<v Speaker 1>they have their jokes and you know, their idioms and

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<v Speaker 1>so forth. You know, when you're having that conversation in

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<v Speaker 1>front of a non Spanish speaker, you might feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you're offending that person or otherwise they might take issue

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<v Speaker 1>with it or something like that. So this is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the idea behind us. Anyway, they worked with the

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<v Speaker 1>university creates this multicultural center and began using it and

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<v Speaker 1>it was I think a few days old when some

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<v Speaker 1>white students entered into the Multicultural Center. There were other

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<v Speaker 1>white students there, of course, because it's not an exclusive place.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a place that kind of fosters culture other

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<v Speaker 1>than you know, white American culture, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>But these specific white male students came into to the

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<v Speaker 1>Multicultural Center and they had some inflammatory language affixed to

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<v Speaker 1>their person in the in the form of their clothes

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<v Speaker 1>and to their laptop. And I believe one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things said police lives matter, which in that space is

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<v Speaker 1>very very much insulting that that phrase police lives matter

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<v Speaker 1>only exists because the phrase black lives matter exists and

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<v Speaker 1>didn't exists to challenge that in the legitimacy of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was some There was a Bass Pro Shops hat,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a Chick fil a cup. You know, these

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<v Speaker 1>like sort of dog whistle you know, coded racist things

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<v Speaker 1>or coded conservative will call them. You know, they might

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<v Speaker 1>not be racist, but very conservative things. And then one

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<v Speaker 1>of the other student he had a like an anti

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden shirt. And if that were it, that would

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<v Speaker 1>have been maybe enough to just stay under the radar.

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<v Speaker 1>But they were actually pointing the laptop and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>doing that mean stare thing and making gestures at the

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<v Speaker 1>black women in the center to try to entice them

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<v Speaker 1>to engage. In other words, they went there looking for

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<v Speaker 1>a fight. This is the story that was told to

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<v Speaker 1>me that I do believe is true because I do

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<v Speaker 1>know these women because they've been on the show before

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<v Speaker 1>they went viral, and after Zara got involved, it got heted.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you know Zara, you know exactly what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. And if you don't know Zara, get to

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<v Speaker 1>know her. I promise you need some of that in

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<v Speaker 1>your life. But she came up like Queen Latifa and

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<v Speaker 1>set it off, and the video of her engaging these

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<v Speaker 1>white male students ended up going viral. As I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>and as it turned out, the one of the students,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the male students, was very connected and they

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<v Speaker 1>put together a masterful campaign to get all of the

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<v Speaker 1>girls suspended from school, which meant that Zara would not

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<v Speaker 1>get her doctorate that she'd been working on. She's working

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<v Speaker 1>on her dissertation, and that Mimi, I believe she's also

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<v Speaker 1>a PhD candidate as well. She wouldn't have been able

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<v Speaker 1>to complete her degree, and Mustani was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>kicked out of school as well, and otherwise this kid's

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<v Speaker 1>parents would stop donating to something like that, right, is

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<v Speaker 1>what got back to me. Well, after initially just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sweeping it under the rug, the school actually went

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<v Speaker 1>back and engaged the three women and says, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to have to have a trial, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you're found to not be within compliance of your student

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<v Speaker 1>ethics whatever, we're going to have to get you kicked

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<v Speaker 1>out of school. So they all had to get lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>and it became this whole thing. And what I did

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<v Speaker 1>was she got the community involved. She came up here

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<v Speaker 1>and she shared her story and a lot of you,

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners, really helped to support her. I believe they

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<v Speaker 1>had like six thousand letters written something like wow on

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<v Speaker 1>their behalf to make sure that they stayed in the school.

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<v Speaker 1>And the outcome of that, which is why we're sharing

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<v Speaker 1>it on our year end episode of positive outcomes, is

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<v Speaker 1>that they were allowed to stay in school. The school

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<v Speaker 1>said we all we want you to do is write

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<v Speaker 1>a letter of explaining what you did and why you

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<v Speaker 1>won't do it again. And all three of the girls women,

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<v Speaker 1>all three of the women said, I'm much older than them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're in college and you know, so I mean nothing

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<v Speaker 1>when I say girls, but they are women. All three

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<v Speaker 1>of them said, now we're not writing that letter and

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<v Speaker 1>they're still in school. And I love that, so so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just to I'm happy to be able to share an

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<v Speaker 1>outcome like that.

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<v Speaker 3>The promise you'll never do it again part is so condescending,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what they and that's too much to ask, right,

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to ignore the nuance to consequences in the

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<v Speaker 3>context of under which those things happen. Sure you'll never

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<v Speaker 3>defend yourself again, is what you're asking me to promise.

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<v Speaker 1>These are all points that they made in their press

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<v Speaker 1>conferences when you're talking and everything else. And that's a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful thing though, that they were willing to stand up

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<v Speaker 1>for their principles. You know, this show exists. I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>like you don't know for you listening to Q and

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<v Speaker 1>I's voice, this show that you're listening to right now

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<v Speaker 1>exists because Q and I decided to stand up for

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<v Speaker 1>our principles. We felt like a show like this was

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<v Speaker 1>necessary at our old radio station where we worked, and

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<v Speaker 1>they said the exact words were, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do a black show and it was a hip hop station,

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<v Speaker 1>and that felt very hurtful, and especially in a time

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<v Speaker 1>when it was necessary for us to have conversations. This

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<v Speaker 1>is necessary for us to communicate and to share information.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's the next protest? What does defund the police mean?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Those sorts of things have what is critical

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<v Speaker 1>race theory? Those sorts of things, And so again we

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<v Speaker 1>applaud to people standing up for their principles. Unfortunately, we

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<v Speaker 1>were able to stand Zara, Mimi and Mastani and we're

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<v Speaker 1>very happy with that outcome. Speaking of critical race theory,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this that on our best day, we're

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<v Speaker 1>neck and neck. But you know, there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that oppose the teaching of critical race theory,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're just really good on the other side at

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<v Speaker 1>marketing fear and people lap it up to be afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of telling the truth in school, it seems, and the

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<v Speaker 1>way they reform it is like, no, they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>teach your children to hate themselves and be embarrassed about

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<v Speaker 1>their history. And that has never been what it is

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<v Speaker 1>been about. That's not that I'm no more embarrassed of

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<v Speaker 1>my legacy at having come from slaves, then your children

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<v Speaker 1>would be embarrassed about learning that they may have come

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<v Speaker 1>from slave owners. Right, it's a very distant past for

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<v Speaker 1>all of us, you know, on the schoolyard, we're all friends.

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<v Speaker 1>At least that's what it was at all the schools

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<v Speaker 1>I went through my whole life, and I went to

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<v Speaker 1>school for nineteen years because I have a master's degree

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<v Speaker 1>hanging on my wall, and I don't know how long

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<v Speaker 1>you went to school, but that's long enough to know difference.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to school in different states, in different cities,

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<v Speaker 1>I moved around. I got it right. But the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that this country had to have a conversation about it

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that that's a positive outcome. And granted, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have fear in our arsenal, or rather, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>use fear as one of our tools to accomplish what

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<v Speaker 1>it is that we want as black people. We just

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<v Speaker 1>don't really move like that. That. That's not to say

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<v Speaker 1>there haven't been examples of that, you know, But even

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<v Speaker 1>those examples, I don't believe they were based in fear.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>The Panthers, Well, you have to find exceptions there you go,

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm glad you brought the panthers up. The panthers

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<v Speaker 3>armed themselves, thank you, as a means of self defense.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't storm the capital for instance. You know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, We as a people, and I can speak

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<v Speaker 3>to this in this with this broad general language, because

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<v Speaker 3>it's true, we as a people have never sought revenge

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<v Speaker 3>for the way this country has treated us. Yeah, ever,

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<v Speaker 3>in our entire history, you know, we've had instances where

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<v Speaker 3>we took to the streets. You know, you can bring up,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, examples of riots if you will, when the

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<v Speaker 3>outcomes were just so blasphemously disrespectful that people were just enraged.

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<v Speaker 3>But even then, we didn't take arms against people right,

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<v Speaker 3>you talk about the destruction of property. We understand these

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<v Speaker 3>things are criminal. We didn't take to the streets with

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<v Speaker 3>weapons and shoot and kill and and physically fight. And

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<v Speaker 3>even in the instances where violence occurred, it was as

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<v Speaker 3>a reaction to, again, the destruction of property and laws

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<v Speaker 3>being broken. I'm not going to, you know, pretend that

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<v Speaker 3>everything was done in a way that was vanilla and

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<v Speaker 3>civil and benign. But there's I think there has always

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<v Speaker 3>been this fear or this expectation that one day we'd

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<v Speaker 3>rise up and try to burn this thing down. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's just not our goal. We literally just want to

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<v Speaker 3>exist and prosper and thrive in the way that this

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<v Speaker 3>country has promised us. We should be able to, that's all.

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<v Speaker 3>And being denied that at every turn for what feels

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<v Speaker 3>like a thousand years is exhausting. Sure, sure, absolutely, But

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<v Speaker 3>at some point our history and our record shouldn't matter. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We have been on the receiving side of the beatdowns

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<v Speaker 3>for the entirety of the country's history.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, And the beatdowns aren't just like physical beatdowns are

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, like really grand like massive scale.

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<v Speaker 3>Bet you can't live and prosper here. According to Article

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<v Speaker 3>three sections, yeah, goodness, it's like written into the law.

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<v Speaker 1>But in any event, the conversation about critical race theory,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that it exists, the fact that people really

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<v Speaker 1>have to use fear to continue to wield it as

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<v Speaker 1>a weapon, to where even people like Bill Maher is

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<v Speaker 1>an opponent of critical race theory, a well known liberal,

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<v Speaker 1>old school liberal guy, has kind of given into the

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<v Speaker 1>fear that somehow critical race theory is new humh, and

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<v Speaker 1>that it's specific intention, or rather the outcomes of it

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<v Speaker 1>will specifically cause children hunh who don't even have concepts

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<v Speaker 1>gelled in their mind yet kindergarteners are going to learn

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<v Speaker 1>to hate themselves because of something that happened a billion

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<v Speaker 1>years old.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I understop rocking with Bill Maher, who I think

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<v Speaker 3>positioned himselves for a long time as an ally once

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<v Speaker 3>during our last president's term last term, started speaking in

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<v Speaker 3>ways about black people and about the black experience that

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<v Speaker 3>he one couldn't possibly know and that were very clearly

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<v Speaker 3>opposed to how we feel as the people. It was

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<v Speaker 3>very disappointing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well hang on, let me jump in here. At least

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<v Speaker 1>on our show, we'll never pretend like we know what

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know. We'll say we don't know it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's very infuriating when other people, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't yet had a conversation about white savior complex.

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<v Speaker 1>But for those who feel so inclined, please engage in

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<v Speaker 1>some googling and some research on the white savior complex.

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<v Speaker 1>And I believe that he might be an example of

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<v Speaker 1>that where just everything this guy says is gospel because

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<v Speaker 1>he said it, you know, obviously he's smart. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a male thing too, and I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>say that we don't have those type of tendencies because

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<v Speaker 1>we're men as well, but you know, we appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>But we have this show so that we can tell

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<v Speaker 1>our own stories. We can we can speak our own truth,

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<v Speaker 1>and that we can decide what path we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>use to go forward. And you listening to our voices.

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<v Speaker 1>We like to count you as allies, and we hope

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<v Speaker 1>that our Black conversation in your presence helps to give

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<v Speaker 1>you a glimpse into what life is like beyond your

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<v Speaker 1>capacity to just imagine. And so very grateful for Bill Mahr.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know there's something, there's a point when you

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<v Speaker 1>just can't do anymore and you have to let those

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<v Speaker 1>who at least feel like they know better, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or have lived that life, you know, be self determined.

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<v Speaker 1>And so here we are. It's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>weird transition here. But but one of the positive things

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<v Speaker 1>that we can look back on this year is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this year, we a lot of our Asian brothers and

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<v Speaker 1>sisters really had to and are still having to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with some very heavy stuff. You know, these these attacks

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<v Speaker 1>and these seemingly unprovoked random attacks on their bodies. People

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<v Speaker 1>losing their lives, Elderly Asian people losing their lives. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been very hurtful and disgusting to see. And I will

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<v Speaker 1>admit that we see black people commit crimes against Asian people.

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<v Speaker 1>We do see that, and we condemn that the same

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<v Speaker 1>way we condemn anything else that is awful. And we

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<v Speaker 1>would never that's just not who we are as people.

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<v Speaker 1>And to that end, we've invited folks up on the

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<v Speaker 1>show to have conversations about them. You know, real quick,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to give a shout out to uh Lisa's

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<v Speaker 1>son who came up on the show a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 3>Shelley you, if you can hear us, we appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, to just come and just be yourself and tell

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<v Speaker 1>us what life is like in your world and tell

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<v Speaker 1>us how we can help you. You know, that's really

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<v Speaker 1>what we hope that this space would be, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was our pleasure to be able to share it in

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<v Speaker 1>solidarity with our Asian brothers and sisters as they decided

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<v Speaker 1>what path they should take and how we should help them.

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<v Speaker 1>And to know that there was some legislature, legislation I

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<v Speaker 1>never get that word right, enacted to protect them specifically. Granted,

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<v Speaker 1>we all wanted it, you know, and we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to back up off of that, but to know that

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<v Speaker 1>there was something that was written down formally by this

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<v Speaker 1>country to protect them and to protect their liberty and

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<v Speaker 1>their well being, that feels special, and that feels like

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<v Speaker 1>an accomplishment that we as a country have been able

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrate in this past year, and so wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>take a moment to mention that as well. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked a lot about the voting rights initiatives, the

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<v Speaker 1>John C. Lewis Voting Rights Bill, I'll call it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the exact name, but it was something like

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<v Speaker 1>that Lewis right, that passed the House, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>they're still working on getting it through the Senate or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. But as we mentioned earlier, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of folks really helping the campaign that

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<v Speaker 1>especially the NAACP. Once again, if you would like to

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<v Speaker 1>make a donation toward that end, visit in DOUAACP dot

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<v Speaker 1>org slash donate and you can do just that. But

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<v Speaker 1>very proud of all of us working together to try

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<v Speaker 1>to protect our right to vote and to not let

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<v Speaker 1>it be taken away from us based on based on

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<v Speaker 1>falsehoods by one person whose pride couldn't suffer, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the loss of an election whose whole empire is built

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<v Speaker 1>on him being a quote unquote winner and people support

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<v Speaker 1>him based on that. So you know, obviously there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of weird stuff at play there, but you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>voting rights, we look at that as something that we

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<v Speaker 1>came together and celebrated. The twenty twenty census results came

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty twenty one, and we were able to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss that and able to have some meaningful conversations about

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<v Speaker 1>the population shifting and what it must feel like to

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<v Speaker 1>be a white person and a time when you know

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<v Speaker 1>the world is changing around you and being able to

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<v Speaker 1>empathize and maybe understand some of the frustrations on the

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<v Speaker 1>right and folks that feel like they're losing their place

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, and hopefully provide some comfort. Like you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned earlier that hey, we're all on the same team.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we don't want revenge, you know, that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. And we were able to talk about cancel

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<v Speaker 1>culture as well a couple of times on the show

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<v Speaker 1>and how it is necessary, but how it can also

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<v Speaker 1>be too much. So those are some of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that we're very happy that we've been able to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about on this show. And of course, above all us,

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<v Speaker 1>we're very happy that you've tuned in and you've helped

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<v Speaker 1>the show grow by donating, by sharing content, by whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is that you've done. You are kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>battery in our backs.

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<v Speaker 3>And cancel culture it had its place, right, I think

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<v Speaker 3>the cancel I think canceling people was necessary. But everything

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<v Speaker 3>has to be done in moderation. We're not canceling everybody

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<v Speaker 3>for everything. And I think that's where I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>where those who oppose it, I think that's where it started.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it swung all the way the other way. Yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we can't cancel everyone for everything, so we shouldn't cancel

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<v Speaker 3>anyone for anything. And those are two very very points

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<v Speaker 3>of view.

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<v Speaker 1>We strike a balance and we just kind of figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how to use that. That's one thing that we

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<v Speaker 1>do kind of wheel down our end. Maybe it's not,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is consequence, as we'll call itself. Anyway, it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for the Way Black History Fact and Q you

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<v Speaker 1>might love this one, Oh, so journal Truth, Sojourner Truth Insight.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there is there a better name that's like the

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<v Speaker 1>history of people, that's a great name. Well, last week

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<v Speaker 1>we were able to dedicate our Ebony Excellence segment to

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<v Speaker 1>Belle Hooks, who passed away in December. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a title of one of her books that came out

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<v Speaker 1>in the eighties borrowed a line from Sojourner Truth, and

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<v Speaker 1>Q mentioned that we should dedicated Way Black History Fact

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<v Speaker 1>to her, and that's what we will do right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So allow me to read a former slave. Sojourner Truth

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<v Speaker 1>became an outspoken advocate for abolition, temperance, and civil and

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<v Speaker 1>women's rights in the nineteenth century. Her Civil War work

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<v Speaker 1>earned her an invitation to meet in Abraham Lincoln in

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen sixty four. Truth was born Isabella Bamfrie, a slave

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<v Speaker 1>in Dutch speaking Ulster County, New York. In seventeen ninety seven,

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<v Speaker 1>she was bought and sold four times and subjected to

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<v Speaker 1>Harsh's physical labor and violent punishments. In her teens, she

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<v Speaker 1>was united with another slave, with whom she had five children,

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<v Speaker 1>beginning in eighteen fifteen. In eighteen twenty seven, a year

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<v Speaker 1>before New York's law freeing slaves was to take effect,

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<v Speaker 1>Truth ran away with her infant Sophia to a nearby

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<v Speaker 1>abolitionist family, the Van Wagner's. The family bought her freedom

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty dollars and helped Truth successfully sue for the

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<v Speaker 1>return of her five year old son, Peter, who was

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<v Speaker 1>illegally sold into slavery in Alabama. Truth moved to New

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<v Speaker 1>York City in eighteen twenty eight, where she worked for

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<v Speaker 1>a local minister. By the early eighteen thirties, she participated

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<v Speaker 1>in the religious revivals that were swooping the state and

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<v Speaker 1>became a charismatic speaker. In eighteen forty three, she declared

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<v Speaker 1>that the spirit called her to preach the truth, renaming

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<v Speaker 1>herself sojournal Truth as an itinerant preacher Truth met abolitionist

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<v Speaker 1>William Lloyd Garrison and Frederick Douglas. Garrison's anti slavery organization

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<v Speaker 1>encouraged Truth to give speeches about the evils of slavery.

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<v Speaker 1>She never learned to read or write. In eighteen fifty,

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<v Speaker 1>she dictated what would become her autobiography, The Narrative of

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<v Speaker 1>Sojourner Truth, to Olive Gilbert, who assisted in its publication.

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<v Speaker 1>Truth survived on sales of the book, which also brought

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<v Speaker 1>her national recognition. She met women's rights advocates including Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 1>Katie Stanton and Susan B. Anthony, as well as temperance advocates,

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<v Speaker 1>both causes she quickly championed Almost Done Hang with me

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<v Speaker 1>An eighteen fifty one, Truth began a lecture tour that

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<v Speaker 1>included a woman's rights conference in Akron, Ohio, where she

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<v Speaker 1>delivered her famous Ain't I a Woman's Speech? And that's

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<v Speaker 1>where Belle Hooks got the title from a book teach.

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<v Speaker 1>In it, she challenged prevailing notions of racial and gender

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<v Speaker 1>inferiority and inequality by reminding listeners of her combined strength,

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Truth was nearly six feet tall and female status. Truth

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately split with Douglas, who believed suffrage for formally enslaved

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<v Speaker 1>men should come before women's suffrage. She thought both should

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<v Speaker 1>occur simultaneously. During the eighteen fifties, Truce settled in Battle Creek, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>where three of her daughters lived. She continued speaking nationally

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<v Speaker 1>and helped the slaves escape freedom. When the Civil War started,

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Truth urged young men to join the Union cause and

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<v Speaker 1>organized supplies for black troops. After the war, she was

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<v Speaker 1>honored with an invitation to the White House and became

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<v Speaker 1>involved with the Freedmen's Bureau, helping freed slaves find jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>build and build new lives. While in Washington, d she

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<v Speaker 1>she lobbied against segregation, and in the mid eighteen sixties,

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<v Speaker 1>when a streetcar conductor tried to violently block her from writing,

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<v Speaker 1>she ensured his arrest and won her subsequent case. In

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<v Speaker 1>late eighteen sixties, she collected thousands of signatures on a

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<v Speaker 1>petition to provide former slaves with land, though Congress never

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<v Speaker 1>took action. Nearly blind and death toward the end of

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<v Speaker 1>her life, Truth spent her final years in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, she spent her final years in Michigan, where.

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<v Speaker 1>Q Ward was born talk to him Q.

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<v Speaker 3>I listened to all she did with her life, and

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<v Speaker 3>I am convicted that we are not doing enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that crazy? She's a Now, you know, we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about let me start over. In this space. We celebrate women,

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<v Speaker 1>we celebrate powerful women, we celebrate black women. We believe

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<v Speaker 1>that women are the ones who have to teach us

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<v Speaker 1>how to love them, and we believe in learning how

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<v Speaker 1>to love on the terms of the person we're choosing

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<v Speaker 1>to love. Part of that comes from me being nurtured

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<v Speaker 1>by a powerful woman, doctor Westernberg, doctor Camilla Westernberg, who's

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<v Speaker 1>again a frequent contributor to the show here and also

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<v Speaker 1>my teacher when I was in college, who took the

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<v Speaker 1>time to really help me. I was in a really

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<v Speaker 1>difficult time in my life and she took the time

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<v Speaker 1>to help me, and she put me in front of

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<v Speaker 1>all these books and she taught me all these names.

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<v Speaker 1>And eventually we're going to talk about Angela Davis because

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<v Speaker 1>she's the one in my mind, she's the one that

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<v Speaker 1>really got me. But it does feel like if it's

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<v Speaker 1>an honor to be able to share this on the

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<v Speaker 1>way Black History fact, and it does feel like absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>we can be doing more, And if she were sitting

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<v Speaker 1>here right here with us, I'm sure she would want

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<v Speaker 1>us to do more then, you know, talk an hour

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<v Speaker 1>a week, which we do. But you know, when the

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<v Speaker 1>story of our life is told, hopefully our contribution will

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<v Speaker 1>be more than what we've done. It might never be

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<v Speaker 1>as much as what she's done, but you know, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>needs heroes, and we're glad that we have her as ours.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe, just maybe we might be some heroes to

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<v Speaker 1>some folks that come after us. But there there's a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous amount of humility and honor that comes in to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to you know, bring stories like this back

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<v Speaker 1>up and make them live one more time on this

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<v Speaker 1>radio show. And I think, above all else, it really

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<v Speaker 1>matters that you take the time to listen to us,

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<v Speaker 1>whether this be your first time listening, or you listen

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<v Speaker 1>every week, whether you download the show, whether you on

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube or whatever it is, however you consume this, it

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<v Speaker 1>really does matter. It really it feels very special, not

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<v Speaker 1>just to the programmers but to the actual listeners. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't thank you enough for another year and for another

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to share time and space and ideas with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Our brothers and our sisters, and with that said, that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to do it. Thank you for twenty twenty one everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, I'm your host rams this job and I

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<v Speaker 1>go by the name q Ward. Yes, indeed, please hit

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<v Speaker 1>check out and until next week y'all pa ma.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo, we handled it. These brothers a fabulous our lady

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<v Speaker 2>showing you where Vrom traveled. This will speak to you

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<v Speaker 2>from sunlight to move, busting on stage like gonna fight

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<v Speaker 2>the mo rove my mic back.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like that journalist with journalist too.

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<v Speaker 2>We can strike back morble borders with orders from head

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<v Speaker 2>borders behind and and.

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<v Speaker 1>Be line sides up and the borders the press package.

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<v Speaker 1>We bring it to you as.

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<v Speaker 2>It happens the streets love pop them from music and

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<v Speaker 2>rapping the street compared the Slash week expando. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>fight the slander with the proper propaganda. What's happening, It's happen.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got any questions and ask if the news is

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<v Speaker 2>just a TV show.

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<v Speaker 3>You're pasting this mo