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Speaker 1: episode number one fifty six and today's episode, we have

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Speaker 2: You into the Double Battle Crown.

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Speaker 3: Live from the Parts Unknown Studios. This is the Battleground Podcast.

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Speaker 3: The Battle The Battleground Podcast starts now here your.

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Speaker 4: Host, Welcome to the battle Ground.

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Speaker 3: Battle and Eli.

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Speaker 1: Yes, here we are time for another episode of the

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Speaker 1: Battleground Podcast. My name is Battle and I got my

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Speaker 1: tag team partner with me. Eli, Hello, and we boyd,

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Speaker 1: we have a special show for you today. Like this

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Speaker 1: is a guy that we've been big fans of and

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Speaker 1: we followed this guy's career. And when I told Eli

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Speaker 1: who was coming on the show, like Eli kind of

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Speaker 1: marked out a little bit, right, a little bit, And

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Speaker 1: it was kind of funny because we're like we were

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not every day that you have a

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Speaker 1: the phone, Dan, how are you doing, sir.

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Speaker 4: Well, just another fagulous, fantastic gig for the piece. Come

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Speaker 4: on now, man, that's just cool. That's good.

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Speaker 1: That's what we like to hear. It is an honor

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Speaker 1: I had reached out to Dan through email and we

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Speaker 1: And then he's like, I'm busting your ball. So it's

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Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I had a lot of fulk with that

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Speaker 4: I say the hatches is fully buried? No, what's that buried?

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Speaker 1: Boy, would I love to be a fly on the

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Speaker 1: No, Joe oh Man, So you know you've gone and

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Speaker 1: done some of the most acclaim fighters on the planet,

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Speaker 1: Like you've done everything, especially in the mixed martial arts field.

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Speaker 1: Have you always been a pro wrestling fan? And if so,

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Speaker 4: this guy by name a Frenchiet that, uh, they literally

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Speaker 5: It's good to know that. Uh you know, wrestling amongst

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Speaker 4: So uh, yeah, we did. We did it on both

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Speaker 4: I'm the second males. There's five males, and then there's

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, So, you probably didn't need much training when you

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Speaker 2: You're a real train fighter to go into the pro wrestling.

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Speaker 5: Was there anything that was kind of a hard transition,

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Speaker 4: Well, that's okay, that's why you got me. I'm the educator.

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Speaker 4: wasn't with this at Testify, paying, No, I had five

435
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Speaker 4: days an hour and a half a day. But then

436
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Speaker 4: you look at out of my basically twenty years career,

437
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Speaker 4: bragging points for a pre you listeners bragging point, right,

438
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Speaker 4: there's only there's only four people in the world that

439
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 4: have over one hundred case fights. I'm one of the four.

440
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Speaker 4: There's only three people in the role that have over

441
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Speaker 4: one hundred bias as a three. Now they're real, okay, irony,

442
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Speaker 4: I have faced the other three. I defeated the other

443
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Speaker 4: three and the closest one to the age is fifteen

444
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Speaker 4: years by juniors. Come on, now, I tell you I

445
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Speaker 4: only did two tradey camp. I have lifetime chemical free.

446
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 4: I did two K camps in four years. Fans. I

447
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 4: always tell people, gosh, just think if I I would

448
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Speaker 4: have really applied myself, I might have made something of myself.

449
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Speaker 4: But no, it is but you know have I I

450
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Speaker 4: haven't taken the damage Still, I'm not. I'm not damnage good.

451
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Speaker 4: I say that, but I always say it like this

452
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Speaker 4: to go, I'll really go as father time moves on.

453
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Speaker 4: Because Muhammad Ali left the ring fully attacked as well,

454
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Speaker 4: it wasn't until years later that all of the his

455
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Speaker 4: heelp issues started to come on up. And then there

456
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Speaker 4: was They figured it was from the content years of

457
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Speaker 4: being pounded up, even to his latter years of boxing.

458
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Speaker 4: He started to use the ropodope, you know, taking that

459
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Speaker 4: that that's this about. The opponent's going to punch himself

460
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Speaker 4: out in the process, but his body is taking a

461
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Speaker 4: lot of punishments in process. And even then it's like

462
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Speaker 4: boxes or the guys who wear head gifts, is that

463
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Speaker 4: really protect you know, the superficial outside he's not gonna

464
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Speaker 4: get cut to me, not breaking no nose, split the lips.

465
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Speaker 4: But I goes inside that inside matter, that great matter

466
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 4: that's called the brain. It's gonna be turned into too.

467
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Speaker 4: A piece of jello is splashed around there. So I

468
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 4: always say that I left the show what the experien

469
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Speaker 4: looked at this? Fine? Will it all? The only thing

470
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Speaker 4: what will tell is before the time as for the insuriy,

471
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Speaker 4: because I mean, you know, that's a lot of matches

472
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Speaker 4: and who that was. All I know is that he's seven,

473
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Speaker 4: goes to place, he's seven, show up to usc the

474
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Speaker 4: like you know, you got Joe Roger. Somebody said to

475
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Speaker 4: blow it away, Like dude, you're like you look like

476
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 4: you can still climb in there and still do it.

477
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 4: I go, well, I could, I could take a lot flow.

478
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Speaker 4: That's all right.

479
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Speaker 1: Dan Shevern is our guest on the show right now,

480
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Speaker 1: and at the beginning of the show we kind of

481
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Speaker 1: talked about Kin Shamrock and you know, you and Kin

482
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Speaker 1: Shamrock had a legendary rivalry going from UFC to w

483
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Speaker 1: w F. What made this feud uh so dynamic? And

484
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Speaker 1: what was your favorite moment from your fights with Shamrock.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's say, well got favorite. Well, I hate to

486
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Speaker 4: say this, but I don't even like the association that

487
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Speaker 4: have to both put into the same context of a sunset,

488
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 4: because I know what my career is, I know what

489
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Speaker 4: his career is. I mean, it's kind of like going,

490
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Speaker 4: you know, pull out the pull out the laboratory that

491
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Speaker 4: that they're inject. Uh yeah, somebody sees is pay pop

492
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Speaker 4: a few pills with that. I mean, if Ken was

493
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Speaker 4: natural natural, he would probably be waged around one hundred

494
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Speaker 4: and eighty five, maybe one hundred and ninety pounds soaking

495
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Speaker 4: wet maybe, so I said, And again I don't I

496
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Speaker 4: don't say that. You know, it's kind of like I'm

497
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Speaker 4: not trying to pull the curtain back and go take

498
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Speaker 4: try and what you do. I mean I would have

499
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Speaker 4: I would have more respectful person to say say, you know,

500
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Speaker 4: I did go this well because of whatever. This is

501
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Speaker 4: this reason and for most of it, it's just like

502
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 4: people were trying to it. Don't get me wrong. There

503
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Speaker 4: were a lot of people during this timeframe of the

504
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Speaker 4: US they weren't testing. There were all kinds of freaker

505
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 4: sources that were taking you name it. They were taking

506
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Speaker 4: that guy, I know, guys that were short and coke

507
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 4: and taking pain killers so that they they're gonna be

508
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 4: wired and then the number of pain before walking on

509
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 4: out there and uh it's kind of going out again.

510
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 4: But it was being tested at that time. So if

511
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Speaker 4: you know, I can understand why people were doing it.

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00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 4: I just look at it that I do work with

513
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Speaker 4: I have a teaching degree. I work with kids all

514
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Speaker 4: the time. Well, I don't care what love one is.

515
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 4: It could be a college level, it could be high

516
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 4: school level you and the high level and going younger.

517
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Speaker 4: Because I do all kinds of wrestling clinics and the

518
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 4: mission graphing clinics and days of that nature. So I

519
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 4: definitely know what all audiences that I have. But I

520
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 4: mean I I take a great deal of pride and

521
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 4: knowing that when I speak to young people, I don't

522
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 4: want them to go these different ways. I want them

523
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 4: to realize that they can do it on their own ability.

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Speaker 4: This is what I've been able to do in my

525
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 4: own life. I took I took a sport, and I

526
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 4: was able to have this sport pay for my education.

527
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Speaker 4: I mean, as it is as it is already. I

528
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Speaker 4: think I goes off a different tangent I have. I've

529
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Speaker 4: got five children, and a couple of my children have

530
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Speaker 4: given me some grandchildren now, and I've told my children,

531
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Speaker 4: I go, if you allow your dad to be a

532
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 4: meddling grandparent somewhere in the next sixty to eighteen years,

533
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 4: I might save you about a quarter of a million dollars.

534
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 4: It'll be it'll be called a wrestling scholarship. But I

535
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 4: will teach my grandsons and granddaughters. I do have a

536
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Speaker 4: granddaughter as well. I said, I will teach them basics

537
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Speaker 4: of gymnastics to my training facility I have right there,

538
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 4: and I go, you guys, I go, I want you, guys,

539
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Speaker 4: you're the parents of to be in found with them

540
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Speaker 4: more because one of one of the drawbacks to my

541
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Speaker 4: career is the fact that I have been an activety

542
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Speaker 4: parent for many, many years, and as my kids get older,

543
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 4: they realize more now right, They like, how did you

544
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Speaker 4: do that? How were we able to do this? And

545
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 4: then do that? And then to switch gears from this

546
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Speaker 4: and switch gears know that the past Friday, Saturday year

547
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Speaker 4: out there something bring me in one day and that thing,

548
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549
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550
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551
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Speaker 4: So as of now, you were the only.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those ones. It's like, what what what

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Speaker 4: Do we just? Yeah, Well, I was hoping that. I

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Speaker 4: son loves it when I come by because he's got uh,

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Speaker 4: he's got a son right now that that's uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: uh closed out three years of age and he's he's

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Speaker 4: just he's just a little animal. And uh and whenever

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Speaker 4: I come by, I'm the grandfather that I saw that

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Speaker 4: I'm down on all fours because you know, the same

619
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621
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622
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Speaker 4: And uh, so he's he's got his hands full, but

624
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Speaker 4: And then the three are older, but now he's got

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627
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Speaker 4: a lot, but then I also grab him to so

633
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Speaker 4: kick on my shoes and down on all fours so

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Speaker 4: do they'll googles and uh make up faces and then

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00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,319
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Speaker 4: He's start trying to choke me and he's gonna shut

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Speaker 4: I grab him by the foot or by the ankle,

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Speaker 4: up and I kicked him it up in the air

647
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Speaker 4: and I look at him. I I what you're gonna go?

648
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: Now? You know.

649
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: That's awesome?

650
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 4: No, I couldn't with that's heavy fun. But but I

651
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 4: always had to say that. Then after by my son,

652
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 4: just like all my these kids, I go, you guys

653
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 4: aren't going to remember this because you're babies at the time.

654
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 4: I did all the decade days with you guys. I go,

655
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 4: you guys don't realize this. You guys wait for me.

656
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 4: I actually grab one one on hand. With the other,

657
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 4: I'd be lifting up this way, so I'd be like,

658
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 4: you know by step curls, stuff like this. I'd be

659
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 4: doing you know, all kinds of it, says you know,

660
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 4: you guys would be climb on my back. I'd be

661
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 4: doing push up with you guys on my back, whether

662
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 4: it be one, two or three at a shot. So

663
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 4: I mean, they again, they don't remember it, but then

664
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 4: they see it now when I'm playing with grand babies.

665
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, planting the seed early for future.

666
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 4: Fighters, well not not really for future fighters. I'm happy

667
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 4: to seed. Well, I don't know if you guys have

668
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 4: noticed this, this generation that is come that is coming

669
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 4: up right now is weak physically and even we could

670
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 4: get mentally. I could crush most of these young millennials

671
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 4: just by looking at so I mean, yeah, and I

672
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 4: guarantee you they couldn't hang with me and any of

673
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 4: my workouts right now. It would take a rare exception.

674
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 4: And I'm a sixty two year old part but I

675
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 4: don't look it, I don't act it, and I don't

676
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 4: move it. Yeah, that's why there was an ever. They

677
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 4: was an MBAC for masters. Oh, yours truly would be

678
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 4: in there and I would be ruler the roofs.

679
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 5: As of now, you're the only person to hold a

680
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 5: wrestling world title and an m m A world title

681
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 5: at the same time.

682
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: You know the last especially I don't know ten years.

683
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 4: Well you got you got brock Lesler there as well.

684
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: Well, he.

685
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 5: Did he hold I think the way I was reading it,

686
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 5: so like when he goes to UFC like he's he

687
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 5: doesn't do anything with wrestling, So like when he wins

688
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 5: like the UFC title, he's not actually holding a wrestling title,

689
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 5: So you still have that distinction.

690
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 2: Because you you actually held them both at the same time. Yeah,

691
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: so anyways, you got one over on Rocks. That's good.

692
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 5: But yeah, speaking of that, you know, we we've seen

693
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 5: crossover with Brock going UFC and even recently came to

694
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 5: Laska Is coming over and doing a program with him

695
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 5: on w W. What do you think is the biggest difference,

696
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 5: you know, between what you did, you know in your

697
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 5: prime based on you know, compared to what they're doing.

698
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 2: Obviously the UFC was a completely different beast than it

699
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: is now. But I mean, does is it does it

700
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: even hold a candle to what you were doing, you know,

701
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 2: when you were doing.

702
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 4: That, or is it do you have Well no, I

703
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 4: I waiting on a copy devant. That's because a lot

704
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 4: of a lot of people they always see did they

705
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: always see that?

706
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: You know?

707
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 4: They would love to see the surnament format come back.

708
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard rumors that, Yeah, and.

709
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 4: I and I. There are actually a couple of different

710
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 4: organizations that do run a permanent format. But because the

711
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 4: way the rules read now to like the flight submission,

712
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 4: you cannot you cannot do really street fights and one

713
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 4: night but over a series of months. For example, we

714
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 4: could do a fight you know, there's some better fight

715
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 4: in in June too late, a month or two later,

716
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 4: you could have done well, you could have done done

717
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 4: the fight show in July and then do another fight

718
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 4: show in August, to give an example. As always, there

719
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 4: was a separation of time to let the fighters if

720
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 4: they end up getting any kind of like little injuries

721
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 4: or something like that, you know they they could they

722
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 4: could get a chance to recoup. But also it's what

723
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 4: what I always say, you're playing the game. Life is

724
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 4: nothing but a game. Learn the rules of the game,

725
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 4: play the game and move along. Right, There's there's a

726
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 4: lot of things I disagree with this kind of going.

727
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 4: Am I gonna be able to change? No, I can't.

728
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 4: I can't change stupid and one one, I mean it

729
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 4: at a world level, and I mean it in a

730
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 4: political world. I mean it told me the voice I have.

731
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 4: I have my pieces of property, so like, for example,

732
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 4: my my trade facility down because my property. I have

733
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 4: every rate to protect my property. I have every right

734
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 4: to allow who I care to, and I have standards

735
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 4: and I have told some of my students, uh, we

736
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 4: aren't exactly your cup of tea we're gonna, We're gonna

737
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 4: let you go so that you can find a place

738
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 4: that hits you better, a place that you will really

739
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 4: prosper in. And I say that also piecespiciously. So there's

740
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 4: just you know, just people that that that that just

741
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 4: don't get it. And again, whether that be a student.

742
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 4: And I've even had some parents where I've had their

743
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 4: child out the man and the child kept running off

744
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 4: and took to Mommy this or to Daddy that, and again,

745
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 4: after so many times of doing it again, I'm kind

746
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna do it out the puppy. Des said,

747
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 4: I'll take you, know, mister mister Smith off this side.

748
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 4: I'll just say, oh, mister Smith, you have like you've

749
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 4: got one or three choices. I said, uh, a choice

750
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 4: about what it is. You can drop bok, pick up

751
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 4: and take advantage of this gold little hour that is

752
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 4: a classroom, gonna take place to go, go do some chopping,

753
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 4: go get anneticure, go get a haircut, whatever door I go. Yes,

754
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: it's type of choice. You can actually go and enjoy

755
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 4: your route and get a workout in the same when

756
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 4: i I'll design a programs here and when I was

757
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 4: it's gonna be way too long. If I put a

758
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 4: circuit player together for you and you'll be looking better,

759
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 4: feeling better, blah blah blah, or go choice of the three.

760
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 4: You can take your child and believe I don't need

761
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 4: one child's monthly income is not going to make or

762
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 4: break me.

763
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: I go.

764
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 4: Every time your child runs over you for cobs stuff,

765
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 4: I just I go. You're underminding my class and my instructors.

766
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 4: I said, we have never lost a kid here yet,

767
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 4: no kid has ever died here yet. I don't think

768
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 4: it's ever going to happen. I go, But you're underminded

769
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 4: it because you are giving in.

770
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 3: I go.

771
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 4: We have rules, and I go that even if by too.

772
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: Yep, that's all.

773
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 4: You gotta get those well, but so many places just

774
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 4: stay right. They've rolled over and might go on throw

775
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,479
Speaker 4: over the way you gotta go the line in the sand,

776
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 4: and I've actually I've dragged way to the line. If

777
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 4: it's even when I do instruction, I have sucked a

778
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 4: lot of first responders law enforce their corrections. Air Marshall's

779
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 4: orbitual military and they all have different levels from because

780
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 4: I work with Nick marsh or stuff like that. It's

781
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 4: just the math of the content. And so I teach

782
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 4: to get amateur one level held roll up a little

783
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 4: bit different type of thing that do it. But then

784
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 4: when I teach with law enforcement, corrections, military, Oh no,

785
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 4: so I'm gonna show you that good stuff, the stuff

786
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 4: that down hard and fast, because you're gonna tell your

787
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 4: story what it's all done.

788
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

789
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 4: Most I don't care about. Yeah, I don't. I don't

790
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 4: care about the bad guy, bad guy. They can all

791
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 4: go bye bye. Yeah, But I'm still a big believer in,

792
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 4: you know, the right to bare arms. And then I want,

793
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 4: I want to I want the death settle thing. I mean,

794
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 4: why why you know, we sent the people to death

795
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 4: and then they sit they're a death row for twenty

796
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 4: thirty forty years and they they finally diagnateral causes come

797
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 4: on now at the cost of almost thirty thousand dollars

798
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 4: a year. I go, some of these these people are

799
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 4: living better life. I send the people on the outside,

800
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 4: who who the texts are paved with people? Or if

801
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 4: you really want to go far out there, you can

802
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 4: actually have you Saturday afternoon step batches, you know, pull

803
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 4: up field coliseum, stuff like that pay per view boob

804
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 4: little that doesn't work don't want to go to prison.

805
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 4: There's even sub visitors that they don't. Okay, it's getting cold,

806
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 4: I need to go back inside for the next three

807
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 4: four moons. Come back up. What it's warmly good.

808
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: Exactly. So I do have a question and we know.

809
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 4: Where we're digressing, Well, go ahead an opinion, a little

810
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 4: bit of everything.

811
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: Hey, we're we're letting you talk.

812
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 2: Man.

813
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: This is the episode. This is the Dan Severn episodes,

814
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: so this is this is your episode to kind of talk.

815
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 1: So yeah, So we've had some people on the show

816
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: that have been featured in the Brawl for All. We

817
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: had the Godfather recently, which you were involved in a

818
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: match with that. We have Pco. We also have had

819
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: Evan Hustny on the show, which was the executive producer

820
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: of Dark Side of the Ring where they did an

821
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: episode of that. So probably one of the most infamous

822
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: events in history was the Brawl for All tournament. We

823
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,959
Speaker 1: talked to Godfather, like we just said, who you beat

824
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: in year round before withdrawing from the event, Now, can

825
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: you walk us through what you remember about the event

826
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: because everybody has their own recollections of the event. How

827
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: did it come to be your pairing and fight and

828
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: what was the reason why you withdrew from bral for all?

829
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 4: Okay, we I'll say the first Kert stay this, I

830
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 4: did that with draw Really let's just go. Yeah, there

831
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 4: was a there was a meeting. H Typically for a

832
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 4: WWE type of events, you have to get there to

833
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 4: that site location. Pretty early. I kept wondering why you

834
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 4: had to get this or there after until after I

835
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 4: did it a few times and then finally a couple

836
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 4: of road agents they they saw me to be there

837
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 4: and like calling Dan, uh that rule really does not

838
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 4: apply to you, because there's there's a there's a lot

839
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 4: of guys at that time. I would say that, well

840
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 4: probably uh not the most a rule of biding type

841
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 4: of individuals. So they would show up rather late, they

842
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 4: would show up underneath the affluents of who knows who,

843
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 4: They would show up hungover. I mean, I was really impressed,

844
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 4: very very impressed with Again, it was when I was there,

845
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 4: when I was working with the w I was very

846
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 4: impressed with with the staff that they had to mean

847
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 4: they had they had a couple of team sists there

848
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 4: so that if you lost your outfit, that you uh

849
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 4: aware in a short plains that they're whip, but another

850
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 4: costume there for you. They they had makeup people that

851
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 4: were just the circles out from your under each it.

852
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 4: I they will sober you up, they'll cut your hair,

853
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 4: they'll dye your hair. I mean they literally they will

854
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 4: do everything except wrestle the match for you, and and

855
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 4: uh the live Monday night malls people all wound up.

856
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 4: But on that Tuesday I tape for views. Oh it's

857
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 4: a much more relaxed at the study, big time relax cety.

858
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 4: So they really kind of boggled my mind and I

859
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 4: understood it was like it was like a gorf, my

860
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 4: baby should a job that they had to do. For

861
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 4: a lot of these minutes, I kept thinking, well made way.

862
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 4: I'm thinking myself, where else can these individuals make this

863
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 4: kind of money being a goofball? I think you've got

864
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 4: to be giving me. I said, you know, there's you

865
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 4: know out of the again, I'm just I'm just graspy

866
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 4: for numbers here. Out of the probably one hundred hundreds

867
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 4: of thousand people that would love to be a professional wrestler,

868
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 4: there's probably less than one hundred on that roster. On

869
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 4: that roster, and there's probably only maybe I'll say five

870
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 4: or less individuals that are making any real money. Again,

871
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 4: this is just just me saying all this to me

872
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 4: is because I I haven't really doalved it at any

873
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 4: times late. But again I talk about real making real money.

874
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 4: It was me. I had a very unique contract. I

875
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 4: did not know at the time at the damaged contact

876
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 4: with one hundred and eighty seven dates and you're you're

877
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 4: just on call. And then I only had give up

878
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 4: I think sixty days, and I knew about it all

879
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 4: and ahead of time. So literally I was h I

880
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 4: basically was a double diffident a lot of ways because

881
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 4: when I sippy doe that I was already uh uh

882
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 4: being flown out to a place to do wrestle again,

883
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 4: I would call up to the TILD agency. I'd get

884
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 4: my flight said up earlier, way early that morning. That's

885
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 4: why you're arnder. That morning, I'd go do a similar

886
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 4: somewhere similar specret engagements. But like that, I would go

887
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 4: do my uh deal with the uh my MAT's with

888
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 4: the w W. The I go to some place that

889
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 4: he's either go to an apparent Q and A or

890
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 4: something like that. So the say twenty four hours that

891
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 4: these guys have given up, oh, that one paycheck, I

892
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 4: pull us two three four paychecks, right, and that's the dates.

893
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 5: I mean back in those days, most people were doing

894
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 5: you know, most wrestlers were doing the three hundred plus

895
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 5: a year. So I mean that that was, like you said,

896
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 5: was contract that if that's you know.

897
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 4: That's well yeah, but okay, but but that was sixty

898
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 4: days I had to give to uh BID and w

899
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 4: w F at the time. So again, I again, I

900
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 4: had no restrictions I worked for they had w A.

901
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 4: I had no restrictions there, And wa want to be

902
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 4: the excuses to them? I go, no, no, I can't.

903
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 4: So I mean I I didn't really have any restrictions, uh,

904
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 4: you know for me, So I I just to be

905
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 4: knew that, you know, I wasn't going to do anything

906
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 4: that was gonna bring any kind of disgrace. And you

907
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 4: can't say that about that. There's some professional users they

908
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 4: have that's a really forty four bastos base through the

909
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 4: course of their career. But I go, I I did

910
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 4: some history and and I and they know that that

911
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 4: I would always honor the felt base of the nation.

912
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 4: There's spend a lot of people that held the NBA

913
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 4: felt friends. I held that that I would have. I

914
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 4: wouldn't even class by them even though it's there. They

915
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 4: are janitors compared to be right, Well.

916
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 5: That's interesting that you you were actually doing both, you know,

917
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 5: to do both promotions because back in the night but

918
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 5: you know that time kab was still legit, everything was separated, right.

919
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 4: But getting back to that broad blaw, I'm in the bronx.

920
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: I am.

921
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 4: I am okay, the staff of the Oh God because

922
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 4: the road Agents, the Road Agency began all the hell

923
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 4: and it's the captain into the cafeteria citing. So we're

924
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 4: in the cafterio sitting and there they're starting to talk

925
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 4: about this braw for all concept three rounds, the timely

926
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 4: stuff like this, and uh they're like, uh, there are

927
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 4: two people that will not be allowed in the broth

928
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 4: raw uh is ken shat American Dance Server. And I'm like, okay,

929
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 4: I said, we just have to have. One of the

930
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 4: road agents was near by me. I go, well, I

931
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 4: go if I'm not gonna be above this, so I

932
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 4: need to sit in there and listen to any more

933
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 4: of this and he's like no, he goes, you used

934
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 4: to go, so I just took I just left. So

935
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 4: this broth Rall concept goes out for several weeks, and

936
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 4: again I thought it was a bad idea, but for

937
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 4: for profression wrestling, because it's you know, there's two different concepts.

938
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 4: But I you know, it's I I kind of feared

939
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 4: it's probably several of the Bucky Bucks all sitting around

940
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 4: having a few beverages and they were thinking, well, I

941
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 4: think this guy is probably pretty tough, and this oh no,

942
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 4: I think this guy's probably supper in him. They probably

943
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 4: so I'll just say, you have some more executive types

944
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 4: of men playing god over individuals, and they put it

945
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 4: all together knowing that they have no sweat, no injury

946
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 4: possibility of it whatsoever. So this, this, this goes on

947
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 4: for several weeks and then out of the blue, I'm

948
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 4: just waiting in the back. I basically, you know, you

949
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 4: get dressed out and you don't know, because you know,

950
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 4: they got the trunkboard up there that you're supposed to

951
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 4: be wrestling. But if someone's matched goes too long, if

952
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 4: if promo goes too long, there's certain storylines that must

953
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 4: go through. And then and a instead of a single

954
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 4: stroke across the chalkboard, matched to be taken, taken off

955
00:51:54,760 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 4: because somebody else went too long. Don't hold off, might

956
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 4: have talked too long, the undertake a mask went too long?

957
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 4: It was this, it was you know the rock with

958
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just you'd never know. But I've been

959
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 4: there and that's that's come my mask. You do that.

960
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 4: So so one night I'm just backed and laying abound

961
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 4: waiting to find out. Well, I'll be honest, and all

962
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 4: of a sudden a road agent comes up and goes, hey, Dan,

963
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 4: how would you like to be in the broth braw?

964
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 4: I go again too? And how much they gave me

965
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 4: a name godfather? They threw a price take and go done.

966
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 4: I go, but I don't want to wear toxtical and

967
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 4: they're like, too, you can't either, Like yo, you can't

968
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 4: go to your friends. I'm gonna go. I will never

969
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 4: throw I will never throw a single punch. I will

970
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 4: show you what a real wrestler can do. And a

971
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 4: combative situation because these were like eight eighteen o gubs

972
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 4: and as it was, They're like they're like, no, we

973
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 4: can't get havy do that now? There's these are those

974
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 4: are one that's one of those moments where if I

975
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 4: could have it to do over. I would have put

976
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 4: the gloves on, walk up there, and I would to say, reftly, okay,

977
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 4: it's part of the deal. Take the tape, the gloves off,

978
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 4: and then I would have I would have want bare knuckle.

979
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 4: But I would never have told a single point that

980
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 4: was that exactly what I said, because were as eighteen outs,

981
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 4: gloves hinders your capabilities that ripping. I would have sippy

982
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 4: because when you look at my mm A career, I

983
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 4: was really good about taking everybody down and or get

984
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 4: into buy the locks and going into throw. So I

985
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 4: would have I would have I would have done an

986
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 4: aerial display of launches on the guy. If I was

987
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 4: that none of them would have heard them. But I

988
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 4: would have put on a show. And that's what a

989
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 4: lot of the mm A promoters who brought me in

990
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 4: they loved that about me because I I was finding

991
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 4: the nicest way possible to finish the match, and I

992
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 4: was putting on a show because because I was a

993
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 4: professional lester first, so I knew how to conduct interviews

994
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 4: for it, and I wasn't one that was going to

995
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 4: just cautter box on about everything, unlike this interview I'm

996
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 4: doing right now. But there were times that I would

997
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 4: grab guys and I was plain up to the cage

998
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 4: and it would scare the crap out of the people.

999
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 4: And the thing is because they thought the guy was

1000
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 4: gonna become right to this cage. And it wasn't hurt

1001
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 4: the guy though, it's like hit like a little can't

1002
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 4: win because of springing and stuff like this. But it

1003
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 4: scared everybody. But I was just doing it, just entertained.

1004
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 4: So there's a think the professional effort that made the combat.

1005
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 4: He goes to the dancer, he goes, here's the scariest

1006
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 4: cat in the world, because you're the only guy that

1007
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 4: could go out there and work a shoot and or

1008
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 4: shoot a work.

1009
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 2: Man. That's a good that's a good point. Yeah, that's crazy.

1010
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 4: And I did.

1011
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was just a train wreck. I'm surprised

1012
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 2: more people didn't get seriously injured with that.

1013
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, yep, I totally agree with that, totally agree.

1014
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: So if you didn't, if you didn't withdraw, then we like.

1015
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 4: As far as yeah, okay, okay, yeah, I forgot about

1016
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 4: that part. So when the mat was done with God,

1017
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 4: as I walked back up through the curtains. Now the

1018
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 4: same road age that comes right back up to me

1019
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 4: because okay, you're back out of it now. So I

1020
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 4: basically made one pay day for it. So to me,

1021
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 4: it's like, now again, how about I work to go God? Okay,

1022
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 4: now I got some executives again, thought I might have

1023
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 4: been a pushover whant to try to bring me in there,

1024
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 4: because now they got the little side that's going on.

1025
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 4: I didn't fall falled out. So now I'm want to

1026
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 4: be I want to be f railly someone down the road.

1027
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 4: I think I get rid of me now. So that's again,

1028
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 4: am I am? I right on the buddy. I'll bet

1029
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 4: I'm pretty damn cold.

1030
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. Well, well, moving on from that train

1031
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 2: wreck to.

1032
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: A not train wrecked. That's something really cool.

1033
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 5: So one of our most recent guests was the current

1034
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 5: NWA World have Weight Champion Nick All This and now

1035
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 5: long after he was on the show with us, he

1036
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 5: joined what a lot of people are referring to as

1037
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 5: the seven hundred club, which is he's held the belt

1038
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 5: for over seven hundred days.

1039
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 2: You obviously did as well, almost four years. Does you

1040
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: know as far as.

1041
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 5: Being in that quote unquote club and then also being

1042
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 5: in the the n W Hall of Fame, I mean,

1043
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 5: does those accolades mean much to you or is it

1044
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 5: just kind of part of the show or you know, like,

1045
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 5: what's what's your opinion about, you know being I think,

1046
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 5: as you know, some of these facts have been wrong.

1047
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 5: But I think that they was saying you're the third

1048
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 5: longest holder of the NW world title in history.

1049
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I don't. I really don't know what I

1050
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 4: call I do it at what I was in the

1051
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 4: top four or five, but it's uh, you know, I

1052
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 4: I kep how do I say this now? Why? Okay?

1053
00:56:54,560 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 4: I never I never lost the belt. That that's the

1054
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 4: problem I might have with all this because it's kind

1055
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 4: of going I never really lost the belt. The belt

1056
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 4: was I was slipped again DEBBA belt, but I was

1057
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 4: I have never lost the belt. There was when when

1058
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 4: the NBA first came out with this concept of doing

1059
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 4: these I think they were a Wednesday night pay per

1060
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 4: view mm hm, and they were trying to do these

1061
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 4: Wednesday they pay per view type deals and I'm trying,

1062
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of Jeff here. Okay, there, I

1063
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 4: think that this but that gift there was about was

1064
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 4: there as well and their their marketing or their sales

1065
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 4: coming up were I guess really lack lessons, and right

1066
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 4: out of the block they wanted to do a heavulight

1067
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 4: title defense. Well, I'm the guy that had the belt,

1068
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 4: and I used to keep my schedule up on my

1069
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 4: website and in their contact, and we need to have

1070
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 4: a sorry, I can't, I'm going to be in I

1071
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 4: think it was like your Mexic gos. I was. I

1072
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 4: was already plaated to be somewhere else that night in

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00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 4: an actual cage fight, and they're like, oh no, we

1074
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 4: really need you this paper. Well, obviously you didn't look

1075
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 4: at my schedule before. Do we send your date stuff

1076
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 4: like that? I'm sorry that you got some blackblusters tells

1077
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 4: your tickets again. I was not a little probably real

1078
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 4: kind about it, because you know, I don't like peoples

1079
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 4: like trying to jerk you around with whether it was

1080
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 4: their poor planning whatever, or or the people they had

1081
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 4: orn't telling them the tickets whatever reason. Now they put

1082
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 4: the pressure, I go, well, well we're gonna strip you

1083
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 4: about I go, what ship about that? And and I

1084
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 4: I I did sippy just relinquish it. Those those are

1085
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 4: one of those moments kind of if I if I

1086
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 4: could ever redo that one night I would like to said,

1087
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 4: no problem, you send your best man to come take

1088
00:58:58,840 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 4: it from me.

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00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, I'll be in this cage in New Mexico

1090
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: at this.

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Speaker 4: Time and you yeah, but I mean, but that's more. Again,

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00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 4: that's some of the stuff I I just there's some

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00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 4: of the stuff I've had to I'll say endure that

1094
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 4: just you know, I really really I have very few

1095
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 4: moments I wish I could have done over. That would

1096
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 4: have been one of those. Another one would have been

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00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 4: uh in in the uh I would have really really interested.

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00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 4: Would have been when the with with them, you know,

1099
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 4: finally you know, want to be the you know, to

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00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 4: leave and the uh there their tournament format when they

1101
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 4: when they had their uh uh oh gosh, got what

1102
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 4: was it? When they did, they kept bring it out

1103
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 4: the rest at the rest of every ninety second, a

1104
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 4: new guy would be coming out the prop I can't

1105
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 4: I can't think of what what what that what's called?

1106
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 4: But I kept thinking because that was right around the

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00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 4: core and I was and I was already on roster

1108
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 4: for that, and because it was uh when when the

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01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 4: when the Coup of the Road agents opposed me about

1110
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 4: you know, then that uh we're we got. You know,

1111
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 4: they wanted they wanted to take me in a new direction.

1112
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 4: They wanted to put six six on my forehead mark

1113
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 4: of the beast. Yeah, that's exactly how I go with it.

1114
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 4: And they wanted to make me into an undertaker, disciple

1115
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 4: and stuff by this, and I and I look at

1116
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 4: them as a picture's idea. I put my hand, I said,

1117
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 4: the other side of the sea, and I make del

1118
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 4: whistle noise. I'm going time out. Guys, not going to happen.

1119
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 4: I go, I live in small town USA. I Am

1120
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 4: not going to have any repercussions to my family, nor

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01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 4: to my businesses, nor to me. I said, you'd be

1122
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 4: surprised how many people buy into this. And I won't

1123
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,959
Speaker 4: have any repercussions. And then one of the road ages

1124
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 4: goes for you know, dad, we could start using you,

1125
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 4: poor me, And I go, what do you mean? He says, well,

1126
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 4: we could start having you lose matches. I go, oh,

1127
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 4: so what you say is you could ask me to

1128
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 4: lose a match. I go, where does the state anywhere

1129
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 4: in my contract I have to lose to anybody? And

1130
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 4: that I I both my backup and I might go, oh,

1131
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 4: you have riled me. Now, oh, I go, who I

1132
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 4: your roster? Do you think it? You can hold a

1133
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 4: candlestick to me. If I go out there and perform

1134
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 4: to my capabilities, I might return to a lot of

1135
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 4: your so called superstars, if nothing more than you know, uh,

1136
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 4: a mark on that map.

1137
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 3: Right.

1138
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 4: But that's and that was one of those things where

1139
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 4: it's kind of going. You know, that was uh you know,

1140
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 4: when that uh uh pay per viewers coming up, I

1141
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 4: kept thinking, you know, I already knew that I could

1142
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,959
Speaker 4: do this. You know, WCW was in existence at that time,

1143
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 4: and I could have easive approached to Ted Turner, Eric Fishaw.

1144
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 4: They go, gentlemen, this is what's going down the pipe.

1145
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 4: Care now? Because I met them both, and they, you know,

1146
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 4: because WCW is actually one of the people that had

1147
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 4: had tried to recruit it, try to recruit me as well.

1148
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 4: And I say that, okay, guys, but it's time for

1149
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 4: me to depart the ring. What if I turned fantasy

1150
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 4: into reality. This is a live pay per view instead

1151
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 4: of a stadium filled with who knows how many thousands

1152
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 4: of people. All the people got to think it's part

1153
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 4: of the show. And now they're trying to send a

1154
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 4: new guy every ninety seconds. Who I'm want a promo?

1155
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 4: I go there. The best bet is to spend three

1156
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 4: four guys. They might get me out of the ring,

1157
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 4: but they haven't got me out of the arena. What's

1158
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 4: the work you guys for me to have it in

1159
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 4: one night? Oh? I probably could have cut a deea

1160
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 4: for folk, probably easy, a cool mania, maybe for a

1161
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 4: couple of minutes. Who knows that, I would say, for

1162
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 4: at least to me, but one night's work? Yeah, no, no,

1163
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 4: but you know. But but they basically became became two

1164
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 4: more civil type of terms, and basically the check just

1165
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 4: kept running in and then I no longer had to

1166
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 4: do any more work for the company, all.

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01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: Right, And you got out of there just in time

1168
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: so you didn't have to wear the the the horrible gimmick,

1169
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: the six sixty six and all that other fun stuffs.

1170
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 4: I would I would have that would have never happened.

1171
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 4: I always tell people I don't need money that bad.

1172
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 4: But I go, I said, how many of those professionalists

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01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 4: would have done that?

1174
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 2: Oh?

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01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 4: They would have scorned their right technical office and would

1176
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 4: have done at.

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01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 2: The heartbeat exactly.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's that's nuts. Uh So our guest on

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01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: the show right now, Dan Severn, and uh you know

1180
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: we've been Dan has been spitting some knowledge on this show.

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01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: And real quick, Dan, where can people keep up with

1182
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: you at on social media? Where where's the best place

1183
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: to connect with the beast?

1184
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 4: Well, I mean now, just if you just go to

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01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 4: my website at Dansevern dot com, Severn is south fe

1186
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 4: be like picture e R and like Nancy dan Severn

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01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 4: dot com, there is all my social media outlets are

1188
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 4: listed there along with the articles of things that nature

1189
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 4: from the passion some phases more present that that website

1190
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 4: is Curran reconstruct, so a lot more things will be

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01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 4: added to it here in the next probably thirty sixty days.

1192
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 4: But I'm still very active. I mean, you know, it's

1193
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 4: been this coronavirus has been flowed off things on down.

1194
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 4: It has slowed me down, but I just re directed

1195
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 4: a lot of my efforts. That's kind of like as

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01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 4: you get are speaking to me right now. I'm here

1197
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 4: on and I have a property that I purchased through

1198
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 4: the winter months and I've been putting a great deal

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01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 4: of work on this and it's an hour and a

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01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 4: halfway from my traded facility. So a couple of days

1201
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 4: a week I go with my trade facility and the

1202
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 4: rest I just said, what can on this? And now

1203
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 4: we're in the process of buttoning it up. In the

1204
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 4: next thirty to forty five days haven't buttoned up and

1205
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 4: went awry, So then I'll be spend a little bit

1206
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 4: more time in cold Water and before make my way

1207
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 4: out towards Arizona.

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01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 2: Nice.

1209
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: Sounds like the perfect next several months. You've got everything

1210
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: planned and it sounds like it's going to be a

1211
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: good time.

1212
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 4: Well, what's once again, how many decades, past years to

1213
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 4: it that operated out of a planner. I don't simply

1214
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 4: let life happen. I make life happen. There's a big difference.

1215
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 4: I have a plan and I try I try to

1216
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 4: try to adhere to that, knowing that, yeah, life is

1217
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 4: going to throw you a few curve balls, a few

1218
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 4: you turns, a couple stop signs and they had to

1219
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 4: turn back around. But you know, I have always had

1220
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 4: a basic game plan all the way through so and

1221
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 4: and I still don't even though even though I don't

1222
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 4: have to go out do anything, but I like what

1223
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 4: I do. And there's a big difference people see if

1224
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 4: I go, watch me at a similar I go. Moment

1225
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 4: I walk out that I go, I'm there with twenty

1226
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 4: thirty or more people. They don't I don't know them,

1227
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 4: they don't know me. In the next two hours, I

1228
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 4: will win them over by showing them. That's the same

1229
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 4: show them the marrit I will always have one or

1230
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 4: two black felts that said, won't ask a single question.

1231
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 4: Now'll wait till everybody else please, And then they're looking

1232
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 4: all around like they're about to tell me the most

1233
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 4: racist thing in the world. But they're like, dude, how

1234
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 4: do you know this stuff? That I go, They go

1235
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 4: that man out there, I go, that's my laboratory, and said,

1236
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 4: I try anything and every day to practice. And I go.

1237
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 4: When I hear whoever I work, I wasn't want to

1238
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 4: hear kind of screamer squawk a little bit. I'm like going, ah,

1239
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 4: we're after something, Why why did they screamer squawk this? Then,

1240
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 4: and I even turn off some of the practices. I say, gentlemen,

1241
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 4: some of you may have to be sacrificed in the

1242
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 4: day of science, but rest assured you will be remembered,

1243
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 4: as we will date the booth after you.

1244
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: That is the best our guest on the show, Dan,

1245
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,959
Speaker 1: the b seven. Dan, it has been an honor getting

1246
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: to talk with you, a living legend, and uh, like

1247
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: I said, honor to have you on the show. And

1248
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: we're trying to get everything worked out because I know

1249
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: me and you've had some side conversations about doing some

1250
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: seminars in Nashville. So once we get all that laid down,

1251
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: then we'll announce that on the show, and then we'll

1252
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: get you back on and possibly do an in studio thing.

1253
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 4: All right, have a good TV. We hope you enjoyed

1254
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 4: today's episode of The Battleground Podcast.

1255
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: Make sure you give it five stars and a nice review.

1256
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,360
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