1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is Matt Williamson. 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: Matt his time for the Fantasy Football Focus here. 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 3: Oh, here we go. So side note, I have not 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 3: gotten my draft position. That's gonna happen tonight. They never 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 3: got together they're going to tonight. Remember we were talking 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 3: about that. Yeah, they lied to you, but I guess 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 3: I don't know what happened. But there there we want 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 3: the first pick. Then, well, there's gonna be some gathering 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: somewhere in the South Hills of Pittsburgh tonight where they're 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 3: gonna pull cards. 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: And I'll be get a bunch of dorks, right exactly. 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: I know your budds. I can say that. 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and you're not wrong. So I know everyone's 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 3: on the end of their seat. But I still don't 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: have a strong feeling outside those top three. 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what was that today? Okay, So 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: I got on. This is on NFL dot Com. Here 21 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: Fantasy Football twenty twenty three does and do not and 22 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: don'ts for your for your draft. This year, cusses by 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: Matt Okata, who's there, programmer fantasy content guy on NFL 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: dot com. I'm all, you got that job. But good 25 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: for him, he says, do yeah, good for him. Do 26 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: get at least one running back in the first four rounds. 27 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: He says, I know, zero RB's sounds like a fun strategy. 28 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: It's not. It's difficult, stressful and volatile. I completely agree with. 29 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I may even say definitely top three rounds. Yeah, 30 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you start getting your first guy in round four, 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: even it's it's a little area. 32 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: You know, you're hoping Miles Sanders hits or someone like that. 33 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: You and I had a really good conversation about the 34 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: Jets running back situation, you know, Cook and Breis Hall 35 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: and Furthered that up today on my podcast. We both 36 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: everyone I've talked to about it all were just saying 37 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: I think I don't want any of them. Yeah, and 38 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: so you know that all of a sudden, there's not 39 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: that much to pick from. 40 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: He says. A running back with two hundred fantasy points, 41 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: that's reliable. You're gonna get points out of that every day. Yeah. Yeah. 42 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: There were nineteen running backs last year who had two 43 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: hundred plus fantasy points last year. Fourteen of them had 44 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: an average draft position in the first four rounds. Okay, 45 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: why he picked that? Yeah, you're really looking. You know, 46 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: if you get outside the fourth round, your throat it's 47 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: a dark fitch totally. It's a dark You need somebody 48 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: to get hurt, You need somebody to you. 49 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: Know, yeah, to come out of nowhere or something like that. Right, 50 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: And folks, I don't know if we've mentioned this, but 51 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 3: everyone knows league wide there was a crazy amount of 52 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: quarterback injuries, you know, sixty nine starters over the course 53 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: of the year, but running backs, for by running back standards, 54 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: stayed very healthy last year. Yeah, chances that happened again 55 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: are not likely. 56 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want that bellcal If I can get two 57 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: of them, that'd be nice. I mean, you have again, 58 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: nineteen backs had two hundred plus Fantasy points. That means 59 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: if you were in a twelve team league, you're gonna 60 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: have an advantage over five teams if you've got two guys. Yeah, 61 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 2: they got. 62 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 3: One one point five owner has two of them, you 63 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: know what I mean. 64 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: So it's it's it's big. It's big account for changes 65 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: in coaching and personnel. This is under the du list again. 66 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: The Lions went from a bottom ten offense in twenty 67 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: twenty one to a top five unit in twenty twenty two. 68 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: What changed a new offensive coordinator in Ben Johnson. Now 69 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: nobody knew that because Ben Johnson had no track, he 70 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: was an unknown. Yeah, yeah, you know. The mines on 71 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 2: the sidelines are just as often as important for fantasy 72 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: as the lads in the pads. Okay, I never heard 73 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: that one. It helps to know both. Are you aware 74 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: that the Ravens signed Odell Beckham draft is eight flowers 75 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: and hired potentially pass happy offensive coordinator Todd Monk in 76 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,839 Speaker 2: this offseason. I was aware of that. I think we've 77 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: talked about that. I don't know that he's going to 78 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: be pass happy though, I don't know. I don't know, 79 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: But I mean they're going to throw the ball more 80 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: than they did last year. They were one of the 81 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: like two teams that had a fifty to fifty split 82 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: them in Atlanta. They're gonna the Ravens are going to 83 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: throw the ball more than what they threw it last. 84 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: Season, as are the Falcons, as are the Bears. I mean, 85 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: like those sixty plus I don't think no no, I 86 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: don't think so either. I mean, still the head coach. 87 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: I mean, still the same head coach. I mean, and 88 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: they've won a lot of games. They playing the way 89 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: they defense. 90 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not gonna throw it all over the yard. Yeah, 91 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 2: so you know, you know you're't gonna see I know 92 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson came out said he wants to throw for 93 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: six thousand yards this season. 94 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 3: That's that's a zero percent chance it's not gonna have no, Yeah, 95 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: so real quick, I mean again, I did a little 96 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: more Jets running back homework, and this is very coach 97 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: related to well, who's their head coach or their offensive 98 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 3: coordinator in New York. Now, he comes over from Green 99 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: Bay with Rogers and they're a very zone heavy rushing attack, 100 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 3: which is exactly what Dalvin Cook likes to do and 101 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: more importantly, more than basically any team in the league. 102 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: During Laflor's time in Green Bay, he played Dylan and 103 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: Jones on the field together, you know, so I think 104 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: they're just kind of accumulating weapons. It does hurt Haul 105 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: a lot, and it's so far from an ideal spot 106 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 3: from Cook, but they're both good receivers. Cook's really good 107 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: in protection and you've got a thirty eight year old 108 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 3: future Hall of Famer there. I mean, you're gonna trust 109 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: Izzy Carter in Hall and protection compared to Cook, So 110 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 3: they might. 111 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: Be on the field together a lot like Jones and Dillam. Yeah, 112 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: you know, that's kind of problem they have, is that 113 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: Cook signed late and well yeah, I mean they haven't practiced. No, 114 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: they haven't practiced. No, they got problems, so they didn't 115 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: have a chance to work on that all off season, 116 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: you know, and stress set. Do target top tier offenses. 117 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: That one's pretty self explanatory. You don't want a bunch, 118 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: You don't want to fill your roster with a bunch 119 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: of guys from bad offenses. 120 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: No, but it doesn't break my heart if there's a 121 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: wide out on a bad team. 122 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 2: That's just a huge target share guy. Yeah, you know 123 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: what I mean that we know he is getting the ball. 124 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: The next one is do follow the volume, And this 125 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: is talking about volume and efficiency, and volume is talking 126 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 2: about receivers. Volumes more important than efficient without a doubt. Yeah, yeah, 127 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you're looking at the top twelve 128 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: wide receivers in each of the past five years. All 129 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: sixty of those wide receivers had triple digit targets and 130 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 2: more than half had at least one hundred and forty. Okay, 131 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: so that adds up. Yeah, if you want guys who 132 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: were getting balls thrown their way. 133 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: I mean again, Deontay is the best example you ever find. 134 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, boys, fantasy numbers weren't great. But if he 135 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: gets as many targets as he did last year nine 136 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: out of ten seasons, he'll have more Fantasy points. 137 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: He's at one hundred and forty plus targets in each 138 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 2: of the last three years. 139 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not going to change. And it's also very 140 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: true running back. Maybe he's gonna mention this too, but 141 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: a high volume, high receiving running back, even if he's 142 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: not good at the game, is very, very valuable. 143 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: And so I heard I was listening. I can't remember 144 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: what day it was, but I was driving home from here, 145 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: so it was maybe it was after. 146 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 3: The the before before you left for Tampa. 147 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, before I left for Tampa. I was listening to 148 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: a fantasy show and the host on theres talked about 149 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: the Steelers and throwing to the running backs and said, well, 150 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: they didn't throw their running backs very much last year. 151 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: Najie Harris only had this many catches. They threw the 152 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: ball to the running backs as much as they did 153 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: the year before. The difference was is that they split 154 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: it in two. It wasn't all the one guy. Yeah, right, right, right, So, 155 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: I mean they had if you looked at the targets, 156 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: it was almost identical to the previous year. It's just 157 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: who got all the targets changed. Yeah. 158 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that is a negative for Nause 159 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: this year because he's a very capable receiver. But Warren's 160 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: the third down back, right, and he just is. 161 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: I mean, so you're probably looking at Nause getting something 162 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: closer to this. The number of catches he had last 163 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: year as opposed to the number that he had his 164 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: rookie year, his rookie yar is almost unattainable. 165 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: I mean, to get that high a percentage of the 166 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: carries plus that many targets, and to be on the 167 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: field by far the most of any back in the 168 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: league that year, I mean, that couldn't have kept up. 169 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, do consider an elite quarterback, but at the. 170 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: Right price, I think they're going too high. 171 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the problem. Yeah, you know, he's just Mahomes 172 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: Allen Hurts Burrow Jackson Herbert. I get it, there's a 173 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: drop off after those guys. I would put field as well, 174 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: but the price is high. Yeah. I mean, if I 175 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: if I'm coming down, do I take my second running 176 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: back or do I take Josh Allen in the in 177 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: the third round. Well, I'm gonna take the second running back. Yeah. 178 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: I'm not even sure Alan gets the third round in 179 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 3: the draft, So I don't know. I'm leaning more and 180 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: more towards Lawrence Watson, Dak Richardson, maybe even a Daniel 181 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: Jones or a two Uh yeah, because the price for 182 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: quarterbacks right now is more than I'm willing to spend. 183 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: Do stash Upside on your bench? And that one's again 184 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: self explanatory. Yeah, you want guys on your bench who 185 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,359 Speaker 2: have the potential to break out and rookie. 186 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 3: And second your guys come to mind, you know, maybe 187 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: a really talented receiver that was fighting an injured or 188 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 3: Kendre Miller or Taj Spears or somebody like that. 189 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: I don't want Odell Beckham on my bench right right right. 190 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 2: I want somebody who I think is going to break out. 191 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 2: Not to Beckham would be a you know, he has 192 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: the potential to do that. But I think it's less likely, 193 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: like you'd rather it's a flowers, right, I mean, if 194 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 2: you're to compare apples to apples. Yeah, uh, this one 195 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: is one that makes other managers angry. But do handcuff 196 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: running backs from other managers teams? Oh yeah, I keep 197 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: it with Steelers. 198 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: I mean, if you have nausey and I'm torn between 199 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 3: Warren and somebody with similar ADP, I'll grab them, you 200 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 3: know what I mean? 201 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 2: Right, that trade be at some point or if my 202 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: guy gets hurt, you just say to bad right, laugh 203 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: all the way the back right, no doubt. Uh. 204 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: And by the way, that's a big reason why when 205 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: he mentioned zero RB to start the article. A lot 206 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 3: of times people just take all the clear hit and 207 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: cuffs they can and hope for injuries around the league. 208 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah you know. 209 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 3: I mean that's and you're loaded everywhere else. But you 210 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: need something to break, right, Yeah. 211 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: Something really has to happen. As you mentioned last year. 212 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: It didn't last year, it didn't. 213 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: Or the hero running back and there's zero and hero 214 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: give me a first round running back and then I'll 215 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 3: wait until the seventh or eighth and do that. You know, 216 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: So I have one guy I'm counting on and you 217 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 3: hope he's not the one that gets hurt. 218 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: Do draft players you actually like? Oh, I don't care 219 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: about that. I don't either. I'm trying to win. Care 220 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: one bet, I'm trying to win. Yeah, Okay, here are 221 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: the don'ts. Don't buy the injury prone narrative. 222 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 3: I think that's safe. I mean, there's some people get 223 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 3: it too harsh. Yeah, you know, I mean, and you know, 224 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor's the opposite. 225 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: Boy. 226 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 3: This guy's never missed a practice in his life. Last 227 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 3: year he gets dinged up. 228 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: You know. 229 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: Does that mean these guys that are quote safe, Oh, 230 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: he'll never get hurt? 231 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 2: Can't? 232 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: Of course they can sure. And then the other thing's 233 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 3: true too. I mean sports science, these medical staffs are 234 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: way better than they've ever been. Just because they were 235 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: or have gotten injured to the last four years doesn't 236 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: necessarily mean they like injury prone. I've had some bad luck. 237 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 2: Do fall prey to recency bias? Okay, he says, Listen, 238 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 2: I get it as human nature or something they say is, 239 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 2: don't fall prey to recenty. I forgot. We're in a 240 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: dun snow. Don't allow the truth of the past to 241 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: be obscured by the flukes of a slightly less distant pass. Heyes, 242 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 2: Cooper Cup and his quarterback missed the second half of 243 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two season, and he currently has a 244 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: hamstring injury. But he also averaged twenty four point seven 245 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: fantasy points per game since twenty twenty one, the most 246 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: in the NFL at any position. So he's saying, don't 247 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: let yeah Cooper Cup's hamstring injury keep you from drafting 248 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: Cooper Cup. 249 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: Okay, And I guess that goes hand in hand with 250 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 3: you know, don't all of a sudden think he's injury prone. Yeah, 251 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: but he's also not young. He's the best example. That's 252 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 3: a scary one. 253 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. Or Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson's missed the last two 254 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: season here because of injury. 255 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: And well, I mean Tua worries me. Yeah, I mean 256 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 3: there's a couple of these guys'll be worried about those things. Yeah, 257 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: that's an individual case basis. 258 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: Don't be beholden to adp especially in later rounds. I 259 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: agree with that one. Me too, Me too. I don't 260 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 2: care where somebody's being drafted and all the other drafts. 261 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: I only care if I like the player, and I 262 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: trust my available ability to judge that player. 263 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 3: A perfect example if anyone listens to our our mock drafts, 264 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 3: is I think Tyler Lockett's the seventeenth best receiver, but 265 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 3: you can get them at the twenty fifth spot or whatever. 266 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 267 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: Take him where you want to take them where you 268 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: want them. There is value too. Am I torn between 269 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: Lockett and Higgins? I like Lockett slightly better, but I 270 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 3: might get both if I play my if I get lucky, 271 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: but you're flirting with disaster. Yeah, you know you're taking 272 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: the lesser player in your eyes. 273 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 2: Right, don't do that, Take the player you like, because 274 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 2: just because it's the ADP. And maybe there are some 275 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: guys in your draft that look at the ADP and think, well, 276 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: I could wait two more rounds on this guy, there 277 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 2: may be some others that don't. Don't bet on that, right, 278 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 2: especially in these home leagues too, people will get their 279 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: favorites and right, yeah, uh, don't commit to a specific 280 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: roster build pre draft. I agree with that one. Let 281 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 2: things happen unless you're unless you're in a league where 282 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: you absolutely know how everybody else is going to do 283 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: their build, which is really rare. 284 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 3: It is rare because fantasy is changing so quickly. The 285 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: quarterbacks are a perfect example going high, so you. 286 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: Know, you can't just say, well, I'm going to come in. 287 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna draft running back, running back, receiver, receiver, receiver, 288 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: and that's what I'm doing. No, take the best player available. 289 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 2: I've I used to nerd wow. 290 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: I still nerd out, but at different manners, like now, 291 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 3: ten years ago, I'd look at it like this is 292 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: the best approach. If I go running back, running back, receiver, receiver, 293 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: I'll be really happy. But you got to be able 294 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: to you know, pivot and don't You can't go that way, 295 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 3: No way. 296 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, If the first five picks in your draft are 297 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: all wide receivers, right, why would you go, you know, 298 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: wide receiver. Likewise, if the first five picks in your 299 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: draft are all running backs, that doesn't mean you're just 300 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: gonna take a running back here because I always take 301 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: a running back. 302 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 3: One thing I do like to do, which is similar 303 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: and this kind of goes back to my dilemma about 304 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: where do I want to pick in my draft is 305 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: if hypothetically, will we come back here tomorrow and I'm like, 306 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 3: I got the eighth pick of my draft. Well, I'm 307 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: going to figure out my top eight, you know, I 308 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: mean without question, and I'm going to stick to that 309 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: as my initial plan with the thoughts of man, I 310 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 3: don't know, I'm gonna break ties for the scarce positions, 311 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: and sometimes I'll even do through the second round, especially 312 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 3: if I have a late first you know, like if 313 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: I have ten, okay, well who's your top fifteen and 314 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: just stick with them no matter what. 315 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I know I'm getting two of these 316 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: or whatever. 317 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 3: And even if it's running back, running back or wide receiver, 318 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 3: wide receiver, I'm just plucking the top guy off the board. 319 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: But after that, I'm flexible what this could be, because. 320 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: You have to be because if you do that, well, 321 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: my next guy has a running back. But I've already 322 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: taken too right and I can only play two. That 323 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: doesn't do you any good. He says, don't be panicked 324 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: by running back committees. And he said twenty years ago, 325 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: two thousand and three. Good point. 326 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: There's no Ladanian Tomlinson that anymore. 327 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 2: Right. Thirteen running back finished the season with three hundred 328 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: plus carries. Okay, last year there were three. 329 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: Wow, And it wasn't because they were crushed by injuries, 330 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: and it wasn't because teams are still running the football. 331 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: No, they're running it more now than they did in 332 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: the previous decade. I would say nature of the position. 333 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: Part of the reason for that as well is because 334 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: the running backs are catching the ball more right, right, 335 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: so you're you're finding different ways. Like Najee Harris was 336 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: not one of those running backs that had three hundred carries, 337 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: but he had over three hundred, but that many touches. Yeah, 338 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: good point. 339 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 3: You know, like trying to think like the Eagles backfield 340 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 3: right now is really scary. But if eleven guys in 341 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: your league or ladies of course, think man, I got 342 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: to stay away from that backfield or the Jets are 343 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 3: at some point, the value becomes great, right, I take 344 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: them both, yeah or whatever. 345 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right they're gonna play. Uh, don't wait on 346 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: selecting a wide receiver until the studs are gone. 347 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 3: I think I used to not believe that. This year, 348 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 3: I believe he's correct about that assessment. 349 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you better get at least one of 350 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: the top twenty guys at that position, and maybe two. 351 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 3: Right, Like as much as you and I like the 352 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: Auntie Ike can't be my number one, right, he says, 353 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: A two, great, you know, three, tremendous. Yeah, but I 354 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: need to get somebody there as a staple. I think 355 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 3: you almost have to take a receiver in your top 356 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: three picks. 357 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: Uh, he said, don't draft and I guess tight end 358 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: he said, Travis Kelsey's in his own tratisphere. Yeah, right, 359 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: then Mark Andrews, TJ. Hawkins, and George Kittle and the 360 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: rest are the rest of it for sure, Studs after 361 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: that is kind of a crap shoot, including Kyle Pits. 362 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: He says, if you can't snag one of those four, 363 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: do not be become The guy says, this is my Well, 364 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: the rest of my starting lineup is field. I guess 365 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: I'll take Pat firm with a tight end. Well, I 366 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 2: think he's wrong about that. Well, it's a bad example 367 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: of a player. 368 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I'm leading that way too. 369 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 3: I don't think I want to play pay the Hawkinson 370 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: and Kittle and Waller price. And I know I don't 371 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 3: want to pay the Kelsey or Andrews price right now. 372 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 2: But he's saying to leave you. So everything he's saying 373 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: here's okay. So he's saying you got to go get 374 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 2: running two running backs in a running back in your 375 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 2: top four rounds, right, you got to get a top 376 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: twenty wide receiver. You got to get one of those 377 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: studd quarterbacks. 378 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: You can't do all all right, Yeah, you take to 379 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 3: figure out what you can live with being short, And 380 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 3: to me, I think I can live with chicken Shoultz, 381 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: you know, something like that, and hope one of them 382 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: hits and hope I'm loaded somewhere else and go trade 383 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: for Waller later or something. I'm leaning towards not paying 384 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 3: the price for quarterback and tight end again. 385 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I says, don't assign too much value to schedule difficulty. 386 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: I think that's safe. I mean, I'm a big believer 387 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: in like what Warren Sharp does in terms of strength 388 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 3: of schedule based on Vegas wins. 389 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: I pay attention to that more for running backs than 390 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 2: I do. Mm hmm. Like, if a receiver has a 391 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: tough schedule, I'm fine with that because that means they're 392 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: probably gonna be throwing the football. If a running back 393 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: has a tough schedule, that means uh oh, he might 394 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: like there might be games where he doesn't get the 395 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: ball in the second If he's not the pass catcher. 396 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 3: And I give them credit because I do read him 397 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: and I do pay attention. But some of these really 398 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: advanced fantasy sites and analysts will say things like the 399 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: Packers project to have the easiest schedule in the for 400 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 3: quarterbacks in the league, and like, I think that's taken 401 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 3: it too far. 402 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 2: I mean, we're we don't crystal balls. You don't know, 403 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you don't know who's gonna get hurt, right, 404 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, What rookies are gonna play well? 405 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: And you know, like, I'm all for. 406 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 3: Boy that Jets have a brittal schedule this year. Okay, 407 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: so I'm gonna take the under and their win total, 408 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 3: but I'm not gonna be like they have the easiest 409 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: run defense to schedule in the league. I'm not cashing 410 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 3: in on that. Yeah, you know that maybe a break 411 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 3: ties that way. 412 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: Maybe their entire offensive line gets hurt. They can't, right, 413 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: That's that's always a problem. Uh, don't run from risk, 414 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: embrace it. 415 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm very risky with my picks. You know, I 416 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 3: went all in on col pits last year and it 417 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: killed me. But you know, I mean it did kill Oh, 418 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: brutal unbelievable. Yeah, so no, I'm very risky. 419 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 2: Those are the dudes and don'ts from matt Okada. I 420 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: agree with seventy five percent. Yeah, we agree with a 421 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: lot of them and some of them not quite so much. 422 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 2: But I get it. That's that's that's a good way 423 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: to approach, have have something, to have those kind of 424 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: thoughts in mind when you go into your draft. Don't 425 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: go into it and just say I'm going to do 426 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: this because I always do this, yeah exactly, Or this 427 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 2: is my favorite player, I'm gonna grab him, or you know, 428 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: it's gonna draft all Steelers like that, right right right, 429 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: There are guys. 430 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 3: Who do that, and I think you lean this way 431 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 3: more than I do. But I'm coming around on it 432 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 3: as well. You know, just from our mocks, I don't 433 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 3: want a lot of players from the same team, Yeah, 434 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 3: because I mean it's it's a lot of eggs in 435 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 3: that basket, and baskets blow up all over the league all. 436 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: Unless I got you know, Mahomes and Kelsey and oh 437 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: Pacheco's still there in the seventh throw. That's a great example. 438 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 3: I invested in two and then there's another one who 439 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: happens to be a chief. 440 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 2: Great, but like, yeah, and it's a good offense, and 441 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 2: I know, but I don't want I don't want three 442 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: Washington Commanders. 443 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 3: Or even I mean, you could take a J. Brown 444 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: in round two, DeVante Smith in round four, and and 445 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 3: Goddard in round five. Like no, yeah, I love all 446 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 3: Each one of those picks is fine in a nutshell, 447 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 3: but it Herts blows out his knee or something, and. 448 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, balls to go around and you're 449 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: counting on them throwing for three hundred yards. 450 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 3: Every game, every game, and you're three catching all the balls, 451 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: you know, like and that doesn't happen. Like, I'm really 452 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: high on Bijeon. Watkins catches a pass, you're gonna be banging. 453 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: Up yeah ball. 454 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like Atlanta is a good example, though, IM really 455 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 3: high on Bijeon. I love London and Pitts as players. 456 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 3: The chances all three of them hit pretty slim, pretty slim. 457 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not gonna get You're not gonna get. Matt 458 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 2: Cannon I thought said that. Well the other day says, Look, 459 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: everybody can't have the best game of their life every week. 460 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: Steelers are a great example. 461 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like we draft a lot of Steelers not just 462 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: because the radio station we're on right now. 463 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: I think they're really good values. 464 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, but if Austin and Robinson and Moore in it 465 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 3: play as much as it yeah, well they play as 466 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 3: much as we think they are. There's gonna be more 467 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 3: snaps that the Auta and Pickens aren't on the field 468 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 3: compared to last year or Friarmooth or whatever. They have 469 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of guys that are going 470 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: to see action, which is better for the team, bad 471 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 3: for fantasy. 472 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, we're gonna get the break. He is Matt Williamson. 473 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: I am Dale Lully. That was the fantasy football focus 474 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: for today. Nice, we'll talk here, Matt. That was good. Yeah, 475 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: we're gonna take a break. We'll be back with more 476 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: on ESPN nine to seventy and Steelers Nation Radio live 477 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 2: from Saint Vincent College right after this. Welcome back. I'm 478 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: Dale LULLI. He is Matt Williamson, and this is the 479 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 2: drive on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy are 480 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: ongoing coverage here live from Saint Vincent College of Steelers 481 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: wrapping up practice a little earlier here today. They got 482 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 2: one left here, Mat, one left, one left, That one 483 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 2: is open to the public at one fifty five pm tomorrow. 484 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 2: Wasn't originally opened to the public originally not, So that's 485 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: an extra practice here for fans, and I respect that. 486 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if they will go padded tomorrow or not. 487 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 2: We'll see, but I would expect. 488 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess he still can, so absolutely a couple days, 489 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: little game. 490 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: Man. I'm looking here on the CBS Sports and they 491 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: have this is by Joe Cory, who's a former agent. Well, yeah, 492 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: and he said he's got ten offensive bounce back candidates 493 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 2: still out to prove that they still belong in the NFL. 494 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: And the reason I bring this one up is because 495 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: one of the guys on here is a Steeler and. 496 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: Not do you well, these are offense players, right, they're 497 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 3: offensive players. Well, they're the offense pretty young. There's not 498 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 3: that many that are are older that could bounce back 499 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 3: besides mister Allen Robinson. 500 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: That would be the guy. And here's what he says. 501 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 2: After a disappointing contract year in twenty twenty one didn't 502 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: dissuade the Rams from signing Allen Robinson a three year, 503 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 2: forty six point five million contract worth up to forty 504 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: eight million with incentives thirty point seven to five million 505 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: of that fully guaranteed. We're only two years removed from 506 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 2: that right now. I mean that kind of got yeah, 507 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 2: got that kind of deal. Things I know in bat 508 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: than an eye. When it happened, Oh what a terrible deal, right, 509 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: things went from bad to worst last season. It was 510 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: lost in Los Angeles, not necessarily his fault. Robinson had 511 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: thirty three catches for three hundred and thirty nine yards 512 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: and three touchdowns in ten games before being sidelined the 513 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 2: rest of the season with a left foot injury. The 514 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: Rams were so motivated to get rid of Robinson that 515 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 2: that three point four million of that salary cap space 516 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: was lost in April trade with the Steelers, which is 517 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: a swap of seventh round picks. Right now, to me, 518 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: that looks like a steal. It looks like a steal. 519 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 3: I mean, he really gave nothing up except for some 520 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 3: cap space and a roster spot, which is nothing. Nobody 521 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 3: has been happy with the last two years of Alan 522 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 3: Robinson compared to his, you know, really illustrious career to 523 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 3: that point, because even with the Bears, he signed a huge, 524 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 3: huge deal for the time when he went from Jacksonville 525 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 3: to Chicago, and even his tape wasn't the same. And 526 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 3: I don't say he looked disinterested at times, but he 527 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 3: certainly looked frustrated at times. But what can't be lost 528 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 3: here is the first year in LA and the last 529 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: year in Chicago were basically the most dysfunctional offenses in 530 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 3: the league. I mean, that was Field's rookie year when 531 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 3: they had no clue how to use them. Nagy gets 532 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 3: fired afterwards, and they were like the worst offense in 533 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 3: the league. And then last year, a very Cup and 534 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 3: Stafford dependent offense didn't have Stafford or a Cup and 535 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 3: was playing with the most injured offensive line, exaggerating the 536 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 3: most injured offensive line in the history of football outsiders, 537 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 3: which started in nineteen eighty. You know, like they were 538 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 3: offensive line plays important, and if you they had new 539 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 3: starters every week, there was no chance to succeed for anybody. 540 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: And I think he looks good out here, by the way, 541 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: he looks very good out here. 542 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 2: The beauty of that is the Rams picked up a 543 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 2: good portion of that contract, and the Steelers then when 544 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: they got him, reworked the deal for this year. He 545 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: counts against their cap three point basically three point one 546 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 2: million dollars. 547 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 3: I don't quite understand it from a RAMS perspective, because 548 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: you don't save that much cap space to flop seventh rounders. 549 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 3: You do open an opportunity for two two out Well 550 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 3: or Puka Nakula or someone like that of the future. 551 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: So I too, But it's the Steelers have a potential 552 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: out after this season with Alan or Robinson. Where he 553 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: brought that up, he would only be one point nine 554 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 2: million dollars against their cap. 555 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: Bad money next year. Yeah, if he's a disaster this year, 556 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,719 Speaker 3: to cost you one point nine against your cap next year. 557 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: Now, next year his base salary goes to ten million, 558 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: so maybe you don't retire, and so his cap pits 559 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: seventeen you know million. But if he's good this year, 560 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: he's re number three or season, you can you can 561 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 2: sign him to an extension to lower that number. You 562 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: obviously lower that base salary and give him some of that. 563 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: There's add a year or two to the deal. Yeah, 564 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: there's nothing to lose here with the Steelers Steelers situation. 565 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: So I will say, I'm glad you brought that up. 566 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 3: And this isn't a knock on Robins. So he've said 567 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: some good stuff about him. I doubt he'll be good 568 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 3: enough this year to be worth his current contract. That's 569 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 3: a big cap hit, you know. I mean, he'd have 570 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 3: to be the first five years of his career guy. 571 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, and okay, so, but if you're in it to 572 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 2: win it this year, which the Steelers are adding a 573 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 2: guy like that for a swap of seventh round picks, yeah, 574 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: and he costs you next to nothing this year, I mean. 575 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 3: And there's two other things about it too, is they've 576 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 3: been searching for a bigger slot. Claypoole never really worked 577 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: out there, you know, Like I think they'd prefer to 578 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 3: at least have the option, but not play with the 579 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 3: gunners and sims because if you're gonna run the ball 580 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 3: a lot, that guy has to block, that guy has 581 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 3: to throw his body around. And the other thing is, 582 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 3: I won't say I know for a fact, but I 583 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: just have a very very strong ankling they wanted a 584 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 3: veteran presence in that receiver room as well as on 585 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 3: the youngest offense in the league too. 586 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: Essentially, what they got allan Robinson on for the Steelers 587 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: point of view. Here for what they've got is a 588 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 2: two year twenty twenty million dollar deal essentially that they 589 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: can get out of after one. That you can get 590 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: out of after one or restructure. You weren't going to 591 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 2: sign anybody on the open market, no for that kind 592 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: of money. No, right, who was any good that's worth it? Right? 593 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: It was going to be it was gonna give you 594 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: that kind of I mean. 595 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 3: Folks, r Kobe Myers got like eighteen Yeah, you know, 596 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: and he would be if the Steelers signed him, he'd 597 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 3: be their slot. And he's not a big but he'd 598 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 3: be a good slot. But that's double the price. 599 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think there was a great move this offseason. 600 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 2: I've liked what I've seen from him. Again, they've they've 601 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: got some rooming with George Pickens out here. Yeah, that's 602 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: not a not an accident, not an accident. So I 603 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: think that was just a really shrewd move by the Steelers. 604 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 3: What shocks me too, is couldn't the Rams have done 605 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 3: that with ten other teams in the league and gotten 606 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 3: a fifth round pick? You know, the fact he only 607 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 3: had to swap seven's like that's all you could get 608 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 3: for him after you picked up his contract to you know, like, wow, 609 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 3: that's crazy. 610 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 2: Some of the other guys on this list. Here, we'll 611 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: roll through these. He's got Odell Beckham maybe. 612 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 3: I mean I was really impressed with how he played 613 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: last we saw him, but that was a long time ago. 614 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: I think they were way over I mean again, look 615 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: at a bad contract. Look at what they paid for. 616 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: Look at what the Rams or what the Ravens paid for. 617 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: Odell Beckham a one year deal worth fifteen million worth 618 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: and up to eighteen Yeah, with thirteen point eighty five 619 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: of that million dollar is uh is signing bonus, which 620 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: means you're not gonna cut him. No, I mean, he 621 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: hasn't played football in three years. Yeah, I don't like 622 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: the contract. I like the chances of Odell having a 623 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: decent year. I don't like the contract. Though. The problem 624 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: with Odell is that, you know, for the Steelers, from 625 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: the Steelers point of view, you were looking for for 626 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: somebody to be that veteran leader. That's not him. Doesn't 627 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 2: seem like it. 628 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 3: I know, he's the young The young pups that come 629 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 3: in the league now practiced doing the Odell catch their 630 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: whole life and looked up to him, and you know, 631 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 3: played with them on mad But. 632 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: I've seen you know, we've seen him be a locker room. 633 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 3: He's caused problems and problem two different spots off the field, 634 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 3: a little bit too right. 635 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: And he wasn't exactly great in the Giants locker room either, 636 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: not the end right. They were happy to get rid 637 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: of him. Jonathan Taylor's on this list. 638 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 3: He seems a little young for that. Yeah, I mean, 639 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 3: I mean to bounce back. He had a down year, 640 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 3: but he's still a puppy. 641 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see that at all. Michael Thomas is 642 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: the perfect guy to put on you. Is he still 643 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: good at football? I don't know he was. 644 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 3: He's a great guy to put on there, but I 645 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 3: wouldn't bet on it being Yes. 646 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: He had twenty two targets last year, sixteen catches for 647 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy one yards and three touchdowns. 648 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 3: I didn't realize it was that productive and in such 649 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 3: a tiny stretch. Yea, it was just a I mean, so, 650 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 3: I haven't heard camp reports one way or another. 651 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. He was really good for a while 652 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: two three years ago, but there were people saying he was 653 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 2: the number one receiver in football. I think he cut 654 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: the most balls ever in a year. 655 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean I guess he's a good one 656 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 3: put on there, but I don't know them banking on 657 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: it to happen. 658 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: Had one hundred and forty nine catches in twenty nineteen. 659 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 2: He had a three or four year stretch that were ridiculous. 660 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: Hundred and forty nine catches. Yeah, that's been basically ten 661 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 2: texts a game. Him and Breeze were humming. Ezekiel Elliott 662 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: is a fine candidate for this list, and I don't 663 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: think that's going to happen. 664 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 3: No, I think he's going to be three hundred and 665 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 3: fifty yards six short touchdowns. 666 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: That's the problem. If you're a mentor, if you're Rmandree 667 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: Stevenson owner in fantasy football, like, you're not happy about that. 668 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: You're not happy with Ezekiel Elliott signing him down because 669 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: of the touchdown thing. Yeah, he's getting vultra touchdowns away. Yeah. 670 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 3: I don't think his Patriot year or years will be 671 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: remembered fondly in his career. 672 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is EMMITTT. Smith is a cardinal. 673 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that type of thing. Calvin Ridley on this rist, 674 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 3: I think that's a one. Yeah, that's a perfect example. 675 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 3: And he's younger than Robinson and Beckham and Thomas, though 676 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if he's much under Thomas. 677 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: He's like twenty eight. Yeah, he came a league a 678 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 2: year older anything too. And he of course with this 679 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: the suspension his contract told so he's still working on 680 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 2: his fifty year option. Much Bonker's twenty eight year old, right, Wow, 681 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 2: that's crazy. So it's like he counts eleven point one 682 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: six million on the answer the Jaguars cap this year. 683 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 2: I'm betting on him to have a very good year. 684 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: Though here's the problem for the Jaguars. If he does 685 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 2: have a big year this year, now you've got to 686 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: sign him to an extension. As you know, you're kind 687 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 2: of renting him walk hope not and now you're signing it, 688 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: you know, an order receiver to a big extension. And know, 689 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: by the way, Trevor Lawrence is going to be looking 690 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: here for an extension at some point soon. 691 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: And they don't have a lot of cap space. They 692 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 3: have some bad contracts on that team from the years 693 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 3: of having to get people to come there and pay 694 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 3: him more than they should. 695 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, Mike is SICKI on this list. 696 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 3: I don't I never understood why Miami franchised him because 697 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: he's nothing like Kittle or the style over tight end 698 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 3: that they liked. So I guess a change of scenery, 699 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 3: he can't be bad. But man, do we think he's 700 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 3: going to explode with the Patriots. 701 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 2: I don't know that I would call him an offensive 702 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: star that it's trying to bounce exactly. Is he the 703 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: Elliot career or Michael Thomas career? Right? Nor would I 704 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 2: call the next guy on here that Jonah Williams. 705 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, first round pick, I get it, But he was 706 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 3: a bad left tackle. Now we think he's gonna be 707 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 3: a good right tackle. Yeah, I go here. 708 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: Go play Von Miller and TJ. Watt. Yeah, in a 709 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 2: position I was comfortable. And that's they're going to face 710 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: those teams. The Bengals finished first. You're gonna get those guys. No, 711 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 2: I think there will be in the market for a 712 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: right tackle this year. Same thing with the next guy 713 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: on here, Mackay Beckton. I don't know if Mkai Beckton 714 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 2: is good at football or not. He's never played. I know. 715 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 3: He lost weight, he looks great. Camp reports are great. 716 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 3: He ran a good forty at the combine, and that's 717 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 3: kind of what we know he's been. 718 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: It's been a while. It's been a while since he's 719 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 2: done it. Maybe again, this guy doesn't really qualify. They're 720 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: counting on him to become a star or become a 721 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 2: feature back, but he's never been that. To say that 722 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: he's bouncing back from anything, Alexander Madison, Yeah, I mean 723 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: he's not. He never was down. No, he just is 724 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: who he is. 725 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 3: He's a was a backup back. Now he's now getting 726 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 3: a chance, getting yes to do more. Yeah, I mean 727 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 3: he'll get volume. Volume will be there. He's gonna get 728 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 3: a chance. Can he stay healthy? Should be a good offense. Yeah, 729 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 3: but I don't think he's a great player. 730 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: But they gave him a two year, seven million dollar 731 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 2: deal to be their lead runner. 732 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 3: How many million over two seven million? Yeah, I think 733 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 3: that's great. Yeah, I mean Zeke just got six. Yeah 734 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 3: if you're i'd rather if you're the Vikings, it's great. 735 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's a good deal for the Vikes. Yeah. 736 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 2: But that's what he's worth, right because he hasn't done 737 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 2: it yet. He could have got more on the open market. 738 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: He would have. I don't know how he's on this list. 739 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 2: Is there anybody else that you can think of that 740 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 2: you would put on this list. Hmmm, guys who want 741 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 2: to show that they could still play. How about Aaron Rodgers, 742 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: he had a down year? Yeah, can he still can 743 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 2: he still play at that high level? 744 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 3: How about Sean Watson? How about Russell Wilson, how about 745 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford, Russell Wilson, perfect, yeah, right, right right. 746 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: I guess he. 747 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 3: Avoided quarterbacks apparently, Yeah, apparently because there's a lot of 748 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 3: them that were down. 749 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if he stars, he says, you know, 750 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 2: Evan Ingram was a prime example of capitalizing when he 751 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 2: had something to prove. 752 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 3: He actually crossed my mind when you were talking about 753 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 3: Ridley because this time last year he was a question mark. Yeah, 754 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 3: but he was never a star, but he was a 755 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 3: first round pick. You know it was a first round pick. 756 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he said he doesn't didn't include quarterbacks on here. Something, boy, 757 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 2: that could be a pretty good list. You could do, 758 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 2: t You could do ten quarterbacks who need to gets 759 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 2: back here the show they can still play. 760 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 3: Stafford, Wilson, Watson, right right. 761 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 2: Across the league for sure. We're gonna take another break. 762 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening 763 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 2: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be 764 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: back with more right after this from a Saint Vincent College. 765 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 2: We'll come back to wrap up the show. See you then, 766 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 2: welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is Matt Williamson and 767 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 2: this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN 768 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 2: nine seventy are ongoing coverage here from Saint Vincent College 769 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 2: and we'll have one more day. Matt. Start well, gone 770 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 2: quick and it's gone slow. The only thing that's gone 771 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 2: slow is our three hours together each day shore for you. 772 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 2: But no, we get another practice tomorrow, one fifty five 773 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 2: that wasn't on the schedule. So if you want to 774 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 2: come out and see the Steelers out practice one last 775 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 2: time out here, that's your shot at it. Mike Tomlin 776 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 2: will have his press conference tomorrow talking about the upcoming 777 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 2: game on Saturday, that would be the preseason home game. 778 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 2: The times of press conference, I believe it's eleven thirty. 779 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 2: Good will plenty of time to discuss it, absolutely so. 780 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 2: Lots of stuff going on here. I don't know if 781 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 2: you saw this, Matt, but former Steelers head coach back 782 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 2: in the sixties, late fifties, early sixties, Buddy Parker now 783 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: a finalist for the Hall of Fame Class of twenty 784 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: twenty four. I didn't won a couple of NFL championships 785 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 2: with the Lions. He won with the Lions, Yeah, and 786 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 2: then came to the Steelers and led them to the 787 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 2: playoffs in the early sixties. And well, that was their 788 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 2: best period of Steelers history until Chuck Nole came along. 789 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 3: Now, I'd say that's really the best they've done over 790 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 3: a long stretch before the Emperor showed up. 791 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. See, if Buddy Parker adds another former Steeler to 792 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, usually those guys end up getting 793 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 2: rubber stamped a little bit. 794 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I say a lot of the veteran community guys 795 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 3: have a high percentage of going. 796 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. Looking around the league there, we mentioned it before. 797 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 2: Marlin Humphrey with a foot injury. He's having surgery. He's 798 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: going to miss at least a month juge that's going 799 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 2: to take him into the start of the regular season. 800 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 2: And the Ravens just don't have Rocky sin is also 801 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 2: dealing with an injury suffered two weeks ago. Arthur Malett 802 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 2: and Jalen Armore Davis are also working your way back 803 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 2: onto the field. They are thin. They are thin. 804 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's potentially season derailing or beginning of season derailing. 805 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 3: I mean again, besides lamar Well, he might be my raven. 806 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 3: I'd least want to lose if I were Harbaugh. On defense, 807 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 3: maybe roquand maybe Roque Corner linebackers you can find corners, 808 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 3: you can't. 809 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, they just don't have anybody like Rocky Sin's number two, 810 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 2: right Like, yeah, man, he's He's just a guy. That's 811 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 2: bad news. Russell Gage done for the year with a 812 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 2: knee injury for the Buccaneers. 813 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 3: He's a true number three. He's on the field a lot, 814 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 3: and he's been He's had a good career. I mean, 815 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 3: I don't have high hopes for the Bucks lest here, 816 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 3: but I mean they don't have a third of note. 817 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, looking at some other news and notes here around 818 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 2: the league, Cordero Patterson will fit. The Falcons will be 819 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 2: out a couple of weeks and likely out for the 820 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 2: rest of the preseason with a soft tissue injury. According 821 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 2: to Arthur Smith, Matt Hennessy was placed on the injured 822 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 2: list that means he's done for the year, and quarnerback 823 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 2: Mike Hughes will be out a couple of weeks and 824 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 2: is likely out for the rest of the preseason with 825 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 2: a soft tissue injury as well. Okay, I mean those 826 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 2: are all ones that notice. I mean those guys are 827 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 2: would have made the team. Yeah. Quarterback Bryce Young will 828 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 2: play on Friday's preseason game against the Giants for the 829 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers, and they'll probably be at the same amount 830 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 2: of pass or reps in the series as did last 831 00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 2: week against the Jets. According to Frank Wright. Andy Dalton, however, 832 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 2: will not playing that game for the Cardinals. He's stealing 833 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 2: on the back. Looking like Miles Sanders, with a groin injury, 834 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 2: is going to play in the preseason at all either, 835 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 2: but the injury is getting better. According to Right, I. 836 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 3: Wouldn't rush a running back back, that's for sure. Yeah, 837 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 3: you know what, Miles Sanders can do that or Dalton 838 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 3: for that match. Yeah, so I think Young's gonna play 839 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 3: quite a bit. 840 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 2: MICHAEH. Parsons returned to practice today for the Cowboys after 841 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 2: leaving practice Tuesday with a left leg injury. I don't 842 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 2: think there was much of a scare, but right, good 843 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 2: boy could have been Aman Ross, Saint Brown and Detroit 844 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 2: did not return to practice after suffering a lower leg injury. 845 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 2: According to team reporter Tim Twentyman, I. 846 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 3: Knew he was he wasn't carted off, but he left 847 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 3: and never came back. And I saw that earlier this morning. 848 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 3: It's good nothing more since. So you talk about a 849 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 3: thin position. Yeah, their receivers with James and Williams suspended, 850 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 3: I think their receiver short and he would be like 851 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 3: the Ramslus of Cooper Cup. 852 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Jamis and Williams also suffered a right hamstring 853 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 2: injury on a deep rotten practice today and did not 854 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 2: return as well. Really, so wow, they're really thin there. 855 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 2: Former Steeler Dwayne Washington or not. So I'm sorry, I 856 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 2: was thinking, never mind, I get that mixed up. The 857 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 2: uh I'm thinking of the cornerback named Dwayne Washington. Yeah, 858 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 2: the Broncos signed running back Dwayne Washington. That is not 859 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 2: the former Steeler. He'd be very old to play corner. 860 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 2: But the way cornerbacks are going down around the league 861 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 2: right now. Well, Justin Ross was back in practice for 862 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 2: the Chiefs today after he had a new practice yesterday. 863 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 2: He had a leg injury, so that's good to there's 864 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 2: really strong reports on him. Yeah. Uh, In Las Vegas, 865 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 2: DeVante Adams was back in practicing as one hundred percent healthy. 866 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 3: According to Josh McDaniels, good, I didn't know it was 867 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 3: anything serious. I guess it wasn't. 868 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 2: It's a leg, but yeah, anytime a guy like that 869 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 2: is missing, you no question. Defensive end Tyree Wilson, who 870 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 2: was their first round draft pick, has been activated from 871 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 2: the non football injury list and can start practicing with 872 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 2: the team at any point. 873 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,280 Speaker 3: According to McDaniel so, let's think about this for a minute, 874 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 3: Like we've been here a long time. Yeah, what if 875 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 3: Roderick Jones had yet to really concerning Yeah, I mean 876 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 3: that's a high first round pick. That's you're building a 877 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 3: team around, to some degree, a foundational piece of your team. 878 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 2: They took Tyree Wilson, it was top ten six, I think. Yeah, So, 879 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 2: I mean he hasn't practiced yet. 880 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 3: Right, I mean I think of all the work that 881 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 3: Jones has gotten in since he's been here, and Wilson 882 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 3: got none of that. 883 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. In for the Rams, offensive tackle Joseph Noteboom 884 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 2: won't do teamwork this week as he's dealing with an 885 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 2: unspecified injury. According to Sean McVay, he's important for. 886 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 3: Them, very important. I mentioned rams O line injuries last 887 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 3: year was a historic problem, and. 888 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 2: He was one of them. The one of them. 889 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 3: They used their first they used their highest pick since 890 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 3: Jared Goff on Steve Avilia. 891 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because theyre wried about it. Cam Akers 892 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 2: was kicked out of practice for for fighting Ay McVeigh. 893 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 3: Okay, well, I know that he's been in mcvay's doghouse 894 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 3: in the past. 895 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 2: Maybe he's a little bit of a vallable character. That 896 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 2: might be the case. Yeah. Yeah. For the Dolphins, offensive 897 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 2: tackle Liam Eikenberg was limited in practice today with an 898 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 2: undisclosed injury. According to Mike McDaniel, Christian Wilkins is staging 899 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 2: a hole in a camp while the negotiations for a 900 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,919 Speaker 2: new contract. That according to McDaniels as well. 901 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 3: So I knew he was not saying Kumbaya down there, 902 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 3: no right, I knew Wilkins was the line. 903 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:33,959 Speaker 2: He'll get paid. 904 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if he'll get Dexter Lawrence money 905 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 3: or Quinnin Williams money, but he'll be nine what he wants. 906 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 3: I bet that's his sticking. That's probably and I don't 907 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 3: think he's quite that level. 908 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 2: H In Minnesota, Jordan Addison, their first round draft pick, 909 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 2: is working through a concussion protocol. Could return as early 910 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 2: as Monday, per Kevin O'Connell, So that means he'll miss 911 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 2: their preseason game this week. 912 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 3: You don't like to hear him Ushians, that's for sure. 913 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 2: In New York, the Giants Cole Beasley not practicing for 914 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 2: the second straight day. He's dealing with a leg injury. 915 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 2: He's one of their one hundred slot receivers, Evan Ingham 916 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 2: or Evan Neil I'm sorry, has a clear concussion protocol, 917 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 2: so he's back on the field. And with the Jets, 918 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook officially signed his contract. Also, however, a bunch 919 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 2: of injuries for them, lacoln Tomlinson with a leg injuries 920 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 2: considered day to day according to Robert Sala. Defensive end 921 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,879 Speaker 2: Carl Lawson with his achilles is begiving solw some hope. 922 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 2: He'll return to practice next week. If you remember, he 923 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 2: missed the entire season a couple of years ago, so 924 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 2: it's bothering him again. And then cornerback Javelin Gidrey one 925 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 2: of the great games he's in the draft. A couple 926 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 2: of years ago, he injured his knee in a joint 927 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 2: practice day with the Buccaneers and expected to undergo surgery 928 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 2: in the near future. That means his knee injury and 929 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 2: you're getting surgery. That's going to be a lengthy, lengthy one. 930 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 3: Well, the first two were very much in the mix. 931 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 3: Tomlinson is store arding guard. I doesn't sound like Javelin's 932 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 3: playing this year. 933 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, in fact, they released him, so yeah. Who. 934 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 2: Cornerbacks coach Tony Oden is doing fine after he was 935 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 2: inadvertently struck during an altercation at the team's joint practice 936 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,840 Speaker 2: with the Buccaneers. Odin was taken to the hospital to 937 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 2: be evaluated. Wow, I struck. Did he get punched? He 938 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 2: must have gotten punched at This is why you don't 939 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 2: do the joint practice. Everybody likes to see it because 940 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 2: there's no officials there. And yeah, like you got a 941 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 2: bunch of alpha males on the field together and things 942 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 2: get a little nasty at times. Yeah, it gets real nasty. Yeah, 943 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 2: unless you've got a strong head coach who's gonna just 944 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,760 Speaker 2: not put up with that kind of stuff. Still. Yeah. Yeah. 945 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,280 Speaker 2: Traylon Burke's was carted off from practice with an apparent 946 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 2: injury for the Titans. Oh, cart it off. You don't 947 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 2: want to hear you don't want to hear carted off. Yeah, 948 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,479 Speaker 2: reports were really good. 949 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 3: I mean, I know Hopkins will probably be the one there, 950 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 3: but people were pretty excited about it. 951 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, when we talk about the Steelers getting through 952 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 2: these practices, you know, that's a pretty much I mean, 953 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 2: that's been a's a that's a laundry list of guys 954 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 2: who who've gotten hurt here just this week and then 955 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 2: not good. 956 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 3: Even if it's a week you're missing on some of these, 957 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 3: it's a big deal, especially for the young guys, especially 958 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 3: for the young guy. 959 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Matt, that's going to do it for our shows. 960 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,919 Speaker 2: One more, Absolutely, we got one more here live from 961 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 2: Steelers training camp here at Saint Fncent College. Of course, 962 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 2: you could start listening to our coverage at eight am 963 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 2: with Tom Opferman and Bob but Labriola and we take 964 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 2: you with shows all the way through to six pm. 965 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 2: So you don't want to miss any of that. But 966 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 2: that's going to do it for Matt and I today. 967 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 2: So for my partner, Matt Williamson, we want to thank 968 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 2: you justin back in Pittsburgh keeping us on the air. 969 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 2: I'm Dale Allie. We also want to thank you for 970 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,280 Speaker 2: listening to this edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.