Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky
Speaker 1: and jooky. I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I'm ghosted.
Speaker 1: Ims nandas.
Speaker 2: Please Hey boo, it's me Rose and welcome to Ghosted
Speaker 2: by ros Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people
Speaker 2: that I like about the baron normal. Oh.
Speaker 3: One of my.
Speaker 1: Dearest is on the show, the legendary Jackie beat. If
Speaker 1: you don't know who that is, look her up. She's uh,
Speaker 1: she's one of a kind, that's for sure, legendary drag queen.
Speaker 1: She's been doing it longer than I've been alive, and
Speaker 1: she's very good at it, and she's very funny. We
Speaker 1: have a good time. I think you'll enjoy it. Hey,
Speaker 1: let me read you a ghost story because just a warning,
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna get any more of those out of Jackie.
Speaker 1: This is Jackie's what is it third time maybe that
Speaker 1: she's been on this podcast over the years, and she's
Speaker 1: been very she's been very good to us in the
Speaker 1: ghost department. But I think we have squeezed that well dry.
Speaker 1: We have milked that cow till there are no more
Speaker 1: drops of milk coming out that are ghost related. Yes,
Speaker 1: I did just call her a cow. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1: This one's from Colin. Colin writes, Hi, lovely Rose, love
Speaker 1: you love the show. Ah, here's my ghost story and
Speaker 1: under five minutes or less. Okay, I'm starting the timer
Speaker 1: and here we go. In university, I worked at our
Speaker 1: theater department's assistant technical director. The theater building is the
Speaker 1: oldest building on campus, built around nineteen ten, and it
Speaker 1: has this gorgeous one hundred and seventy four see theater
Speaker 1: with a Victorian lobby space and faux marble pillars lining
Speaker 1: the sides of the house and stage. Okay, are you
Speaker 1: trying to talk dirty to me? This is like, ugh,
Speaker 1: my favorite thing to hear about Victorian theater, marble, faux marble. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. Over the summer, the building was locked
Speaker 1: and the only staff with keys where me and my boss,
Speaker 1: the technical director, who was on vacation at the time.
Speaker 1: One day, I was in my office when I heard
Speaker 1: singing coming from the theater. I walked down the hall
Speaker 1: to towards the door that led backstage, and sure enough
Speaker 1: I heard a woman singing scales or arpeggios on the stage.
Speaker 1: I opened the door, and the singing stopped. The theater
Speaker 1: was completely black, but I didn't hear anyone run away.
Speaker 1: We don't use a ghost light because it's an end
Speaker 1: stage theater, so there's no drop off at the edge
Speaker 1: of the stage. Oh okay, so there's no fear of
Speaker 1: somebody accidentally whoa like you ever see that time Kelsey
Speaker 1: Grammer fell off of a stage. I think he was
Speaker 1: at one of the Disney parks. That's a good one.
Speaker 1: So that doesn't happen at this one. Okay. Being spooked,
Speaker 1: I decided I was leaving for the day. As I
Speaker 1: headed back to my office, the singing resumed. I really
Speaker 1: had to pee. The only bathroom on the floor was
Speaker 1: in the theater's green room, across the stage, where a
Speaker 1: ghost was just singing. I decided to be brave and
Speaker 1: I booked it back down the hall, opened the door
Speaker 1: and pulled it closed behind me, making sure the latch locked.
Speaker 1: I jogged across the dark stage, using my phone flashlight
Speaker 1: to find the door to the green room. I felt
Speaker 1: like I was being watched the whole time. I quickly
Speaker 1: went into the bathroom and closed the door. As I
Speaker 1: was doing my business, I heard footsteps approach the bathroom
Speaker 1: door and stand there outside waiting for me again. The
Speaker 1: whole building was closed for the summer, my boss was
Speaker 1: on vacation, and the theater was especially super locked up.
Speaker 1: No one could have been standing on the other side
Speaker 1: of the door. After a few minutes, I heard three
Speaker 1: footsteps back away from the door. I quickly finished up
Speaker 1: through the door open and ran into the lobby and
Speaker 1: out the main door. The green room was pretty big,
Speaker 1: so three steps could only put you in the middle
Speaker 1: of the room. Whatever was there was watching me as
Speaker 1: I fled. Later on, I was doing some research on
Speaker 1: the building to see if there were any reports of hauntings,
Speaker 1: and apparently in nineteen fifteen, the theater partially burned down
Speaker 1: and three bodies were recovered, two firemen and one unidentified woman.
Speaker 1: Was the woman the singing I heard. Did the ghost
Speaker 1: of a fireman try to cruise me? Should I have
Speaker 1: let him in? Oh? My god? Well, thank you Colin
Speaker 1: for sending that. It's very possible. It also could have
Speaker 1: been one of the firemen singing, and it sounded like
Speaker 1: a lady. I do believe that the ghost was cruising you.
Speaker 1: I think you should go for it next time. I
Speaker 1: don't know why not. You know it's a good story.
Speaker 1: Uh send that one in next. Uh, that's great. This
Speaker 1: is wonderful. I love this. I've been getting some great
Speaker 1: stories coming in and I appreciate anytime somebody takes the
Speaker 1: time to write a story and send it to me.
Speaker 1: So thank you. You know, I love a theater story,
Speaker 1: I love a I love anything on the job kind
Speaker 1: of a story. Those are those are great? As always,
Speaker 1: you know you just email ghosted by ros at gmail
Speaker 1: dot com. You write it all nice and as and
Speaker 1: as Culin had mentioned there five minutes or less. You know, roughly,
Speaker 1: I'm not actually gonna time you, but roughly roughly the
Speaker 1: good parts. Colin did it right. Yeah, keep them coming
Speaker 1: on in. I'm on tour rozhardatistour dot com. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: we've added some new ones. We've added Seattle, We've added Richmond.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going all over the place. Baby. We're
Speaker 1: getting close to fifty dates I'm doing the next few months.
Speaker 1: So please tell everyone you know and come see me. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. It's my conversation once again with Jackie
Speaker 1: beat and with the show. I am joined by a
Speaker 1: woman I found in Reno at a slot machine. At
Speaker 1: least that's what it appears. Jackie beat Oh wow, Well
Speaker 1: Jackie currently has on razzle dazzle shades and a Betty White.
Speaker 3: Wig, Benny White adjacent Benny White adjacent, like she got
Speaker 3: caught in a rainstorm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you sort of are giving that with with a
Speaker 1: puss zuzu shirt on a zuzu.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you. When I was driving here, you know,
Speaker 3: I had the air conditioning on and it was a
Speaker 3: little chili. So I was setting it and when I
Speaker 3: said it, I can't help it. Think of the year
Speaker 3: movies come out. I set it to seventy three, which
Speaker 3: makes me think of nineteen seventy three, which of course
Speaker 3: is the year The Exorcist came out.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was meant to be.
Speaker 3: It was meant to be.
Speaker 1: It was pasusu, pazuzu. That's from the Heretic.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love the Sertic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the second one. See now that one. We just
Speaker 1: recently covered the Exorcist curse. You know, the alleged curse.
Speaker 3: Oh, the curse the movie made you know, fifty years ago.
Speaker 3: Everyone in it is dead. This is crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, but a lot of them died, like when they
Speaker 1: were filming and like around then. But it does seem
Speaker 1: like the publicist and freakin' William freaking was like, let's
Speaker 1: tell people that you know, it was cursed.
Speaker 3: I feel like maybe William was freaking out about the
Speaker 3: possibility of the movie not doing well at the box office.
Speaker 1: I love that his last name is freakin' freaking well
Speaker 1: fed Ken.
Speaker 3: When I first moved to Los Angeles and I was
Speaker 3: working at Sunset Gower Studios at Sunset and Gower, God,
Speaker 3: they really named that studio. They come up with that anyway,
Speaker 3: somebody I was working with was like, oh, yeah, Bill
Speaker 3: Friedkin always used to Billy Friedkin used to say, and
Speaker 3: I'd be like, Billy Friedkin. She's like, that's what people
Speaker 3: call him.
Speaker 1: I thought it was just so like you know, the
Speaker 1: freed can I know, Well, you're here because.
Speaker 3: You somebody canceled.
Speaker 1: No, you're here because you told me you have an
Speaker 1: incredible ghost story.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: I know you think that's a setup because this is
Speaker 3: my third time on the show, and we actually on
Speaker 3: the phone the other day because we are friends, ladies
Speaker 3: and gentlemen, full disclosure, friends in italics, friends in quotes.
Speaker 3: It's Hollywood. I told you that, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: have any ghost stories left. Well, I lied. I've been
Speaker 3: holding onto the best. Are you serious, the major ghost
Speaker 3: story that happened maybe a year ago. What?
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, this is baffling to me. First of all,
Speaker 1: let's recap. We have heard the story now, Jackie's been
Speaker 1: on twice now over the years.
Speaker 3: We heard.
Speaker 1: My favorite one was you told the first time you
Speaker 1: were on. You were on with Sherry years ago, and
Speaker 1: you told the story of the time that Satan herself
Speaker 1: visited you after you went through a breakup. Yes, that
Speaker 1: story is so good.
Speaker 3: Tried to seduce me the most gorgeous blueprint of my lust.
Speaker 3: I probably used that phrase when I told it the
Speaker 3: first time. Stunning, right out of gay porn, Satan.
Speaker 1: And because you were sad, you painted all your walls black. Yes,
Speaker 1: And then you woke up in the middle of the
Speaker 1: night and there was this hooved, cloven hoofs cloven hooved,
Speaker 1: clovened mmm.
Speaker 3: But he was hot, he was fine, he was fine, girl,
Speaker 3: and don't do it.
Speaker 1: And he was looking at you like, are we gonna
Speaker 1: do it?
Speaker 3: It was kind of telepathically, are we going to do this?
Speaker 1: And I said no, that would have been your opportunity
Speaker 1: to become an A List superstar.
Speaker 3: And now I'm here talking to you for the third time.
Speaker 3: Z List.
Speaker 1: You should have said yes, I know, but you did it.
Speaker 3: No. I literally closed my eyes and said no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no, and then I opened my eyes and the
Speaker 3: cloven hoofs were gone.
Speaker 1: That's such a good story.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: We also heard the time you had to share dream
Speaker 1: with your mother, which was real good. We've heard the
Speaker 1: time you saw UFO as a kid. Yes, a gay
Speaker 1: pride again. Oh yeah, Rainbow We literally.
Speaker 3: Had rainbow like tail to it or like lights. It
Speaker 3: was crazy.
Speaker 1: What else have we heard from you? Some other bullshit
Speaker 1: you have made up?
Speaker 3: Out when I was staying at a hotel in San
Speaker 3: Francisco and I asked my mom for a sign and
Speaker 3: the TV popped on.
Speaker 1: Yes, that was the Vertigo Hotel, I believe.
Speaker 3: Yes, they filmed a scene and it wasn't called that
Speaker 3: at the time, but they somebody bought it and then
Speaker 3: turned it into a boutique hotel and decided to cash
Speaker 3: in on the fact that Vertigo had been filmed there.
Speaker 1: And then I also remember one time you telling a
Speaker 1: story about when you were on tour with Dita Bontie.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, and there was a oh and also there
Speaker 3: was a ghost. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: DTA love you, babe, but you said that it was
Speaker 1: a haunted hotel in Australia and everybody there.
Speaker 3: Oh girl. We drove up and I was like, this
Speaker 3: literally is right out of the shining. I was like
Speaker 3: getting such a vibe and the look of it. Everything
Speaker 3: was just weird. We were all texting on a group
Speaker 3: WhatsApp and I said I was taking a bath and
Speaker 3: the lights went off, and then somebody said I was
Speaker 3: sitting here and my closet door opened and closed, and
Speaker 3: then everybody was chiming in, Oh my god, this just happened.
Speaker 3: And Dita was like, stop it. Now, I need a
Speaker 3: good night's sleep. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can't hear that stuff if I have to sleep there.
Speaker 3: So now, what girl, what did they makeup? I've been
Speaker 3: saving it. I was doing a show where I think
Speaker 3: it might have been like somewhere in Indiana, which is
Speaker 3: already like okay, this is scary, you know, and the
Speaker 3: venue was old and kind of strange and just had
Speaker 3: the vibe. You could kind of feel it in the air.
Speaker 3: But I have to say I didn't get enough sleep.
Speaker 3: I felt a little off. Sometimes that is the best
Speaker 3: show because you're not overthinking everything and you're a little loopy.
Speaker 1: That's why people get drunk. You and I don't drink. No,
Speaker 1: but that's why people drink a bunch before they perform,
Speaker 1: because it's similar to that state.
Speaker 3: I feel right, But I just this was not going
Speaker 3: in that direction, like, oh, the not sleeping is making
Speaker 3: for a good show. I felt very off. The audience
Speaker 3: just felt very low energy, and I remember near the
Speaker 3: end of the show. This was not just like one ghost.
Speaker 3: This was like several because when the show ended, I
Speaker 3: distinctly heard boo. The audience was booing because it was
Speaker 3: a bad show. Get it wasn't a ghost at all.
Speaker 3: Ros come on, used to be fun, Roz Jackie, I
Speaker 3: know dad jokes from Grandma.
Speaker 1: This is like when you lie in your resume. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've lied on your resume to get on this podcast.
Speaker 3: Special skills, Yeah, telling jokes, horseback riding.
Speaker 1: I thought you had a ghost story ice skating. It's okay,
Speaker 1: you don't need one because I did some preparation.
Speaker 3: H Was it that problem you were telling me about.
Speaker 1: I told you that in confidence. Oh, I'm very confident
Speaker 1: about the problem.
Speaker 3: I'm confident it'll never go away from the way you
Speaker 3: described it.
Speaker 1: This is an episode, yes, about the ghosts of Hollywood blondes.
Speaker 3: Hence the wig I'm wearing.
Speaker 1: I did tell you bring blonde hair.
Speaker 3: You did? You said, are you going to do drag?
Speaker 3: I said, are you paying me? You said no. I
Speaker 3: screamed no. I slammed down the phone, And here we are.
Speaker 1: We are paying you very handsomely.
Speaker 3: I know, in non vegan protein bars in the green room.
Speaker 3: Get it? Why did you say any instead of Ernie?
Speaker 1: So Jackie loves to say something shady and then briskly
Speaker 1: change the subject by going any way. And then I
Speaker 1: one time said that if you were a drag king,
Speaker 1: your drag name would be Ernie Way.
Speaker 3: And that's why you are at the top of your game, lady.
Speaker 1: And that's why they give me the big bucks.
Speaker 3: And all those non vegan protein bars.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about some Hollywood bloonde.
Speaker 3: Come on, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's do it.
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm curious. Maybe you know some maybe you know
Speaker 1: about some of these stories. You famously do work a
Speaker 1: lot with the Hollywood blonde Cherry Bene, I do, I do,
Speaker 1: but these we're getting even than Cherry Vine. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about Gene Harlowe.
Speaker 3: I wasn't alive at the time. I assume you were
Speaker 3: going to make a joke regarding that. Now now, Jean Harlowe,
Speaker 3: Uh huh, oh, what an ethereal beauty? I mean, just
Speaker 3: like a glow, a golden glow about her.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. That's not someone whose work
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: A lot of me either. I'm just talking about do
Speaker 3: people like do I know?
Speaker 1: I feel like, is she known for movies?
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I'm old. You know that I
Speaker 3: am a platinum gay, and I usually know all that stuff. Obviously,
Speaker 3: I know of Jean Harlowe and I can picture her.
Speaker 3: And what I just described is like, you know, photos
Speaker 3: I've seen of her, but I can't really remember, you know,
Speaker 3: any movies, which is I feel bad. We're probably gonna
Speaker 3: get haunted by her right now, I know. I mean
Speaker 3: there's other jeans, Mom jeans, Mom jeans, skinny jeans, good jeans. Oh,
Speaker 3: I was blessed with as you can see, I was
Speaker 3: blessed with good jeans.
Speaker 1: But Jean Harlow Gene Hackman.
Speaker 3: Don't start. I almost set the air conditioner to seventy two,
Speaker 3: which is beside adventure. Gene Hackman played the hip turtleneck
Speaker 3: wearing priest or minister on the ship who was having
Speaker 3: a little question of faith, especially when the ship turned over.
Speaker 3: You know, that'll do it.
Speaker 1: That'll do it, that'll do it, okay, So Jean Harlow, Yes,
Speaker 1: this is something that I have heard about this story
Speaker 1: many times over the years, because there's like a Manson connection,
Speaker 1: So Jean Harlow. Many people say that the house that
Speaker 1: she lived in was cursed. It's known as the Harlow
Speaker 1: burn House because she was married to MGM producer Paul
Speaker 1: Byrne in the late twenties and thirties and the two
Speaker 1: of them briefly owned this really cool house. And as
Speaker 1: far as I know, it's like Benedict Canyon area, which
Speaker 1: they say is cursed.
Speaker 3: They say that whole area is Manson territory exactly.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, So Paul Burne shot himself in the hud
Speaker 1: at least that's what the official police report. Yes, many
Speaker 1: speculate it was murder. Also, apparently two other people died
Speaker 1: in their swimming pool.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a quick question. Yeah, did what
Speaker 3: was Paul Byrne? He was a director or something.
Speaker 1: He was a producer.
Speaker 3: Okay, so he's MGM, a successful producer at MGM. Did
Speaker 3: you say he was married to Jean Harlowe. I don't
Speaker 3: think that's the I mean she was gorgeous, Like, why
Speaker 3: are you gonna? Why are you gonna unlive yourself? Why?
Speaker 1: People in Hollywood, you know, never have problems.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's true, but who knows. But I'm
Speaker 3: just saying men back then had a lot of power,
Speaker 3: and if he had a lot of money, let's say
Speaker 3: that the relationship wasn't great, he could just dump her for,
Speaker 3: you know, a newer model. So it just seemed strange
Speaker 3: that he I think it was murder.
Speaker 1: I need jack Columbo on the case.
Speaker 3: I get it. That was Jackie plus Colombo the young
Speaker 3: Please google Columbu.
Speaker 1: I love Colombo. Okay, So so here's the Manson connection.
Speaker 3: Okay, Jay C.
Speaker 1: Bring the house.
Speaker 3: Famed hairstylist, famed hairstylists to the male stars.
Speaker 1: That's always an interesting point.
Speaker 3: Well, he also did Sharon Tate's hair, right, He also
Speaker 3: did Sharon Tate for the brief period. Yes, and he was.
Speaker 1: He was known for doing men's hair. He like, really
Speaker 1: was revolution the men's.
Speaker 3: Fidel says soon of men.
Speaker 1: Right. Yes, So he bought the house in nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: three and he lived there for a few years with
Speaker 1: Sharon Tate when the two of them dated, And the
Speaker 1: story goes, and this is all stuff I got off
Speaker 1: of Haunted houses dot com.
Speaker 3: Thanks for the shout out.
Speaker 1: So the story goes that one night Sharon Tate was
Speaker 1: staying there alone. She was trying to sleep. She turned
Speaker 1: the lights on because she kept hearing scary noises. Then
Speaker 1: a little man quote scuttled into the room, ignoring her,
Speaker 1: looking for something. She recognized him as Paul Byrne. She
Speaker 1: ran out of the room and saw an entity on
Speaker 1: the stairs, tied to the post with its throat slashed.
Speaker 1: She ran to the bar in the house to get
Speaker 1: herself a drink. She got an urge to start ripping
Speaker 1: the wallpaper along the base of the bar. She went
Speaker 1: back to the bedroom and passed out. She assumed it
Speaker 1: was a bad dream until she noticed the torn up wallpaper.
Speaker 1: The next day she really experienced it. The current owners
Speaker 1: say they haven't had anything creepy happen.
Speaker 3: Do you know why I love that story? It is
Speaker 3: so specific and so weird, and like, if you were
Speaker 3: gonna make up a story, girl, that would not be it. No,
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? No? I know it
Speaker 3: has everything. Sharon Tate, scuttling, scuttling, I need a drink,
Speaker 3: a mediamon, and then like the destroying of wallpaper. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's scary.
Speaker 1: It's scary.
Speaker 3: Let's try to keep it up beat.
Speaker 1: We're not putting anything up beat.
Speaker 3: It's not that kind of a podcast, dear.
Speaker 1: Also, I should mention, while we're on the Sharon Tate,
Speaker 1: there is that place that I have been before, the
Speaker 1: Omen House. Yes, the house that a man owns next
Speaker 1: to the Manson murder home location that he says is
Speaker 1: haunted by Sharon Tate. And one time I did go
Speaker 1: to Sharon Tate's birthday party there, and as I was leaving,
Speaker 1: he said, Sharon's telling me I need to flip over
Speaker 1: the patties and he went out to the patio because
Speaker 1: the burgers were burning.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I appreciate that Sharon would go
Speaker 3: to the trouble of haunting the next door neighbor.
Speaker 1: No, not even next door a couple.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I love that She's like, girl, do not
Speaker 3: overcook that meat.
Speaker 1: Do not overcook the meat. Okay. So Jean Harlow's second
Speaker 1: house in Westwood, she lived in that one for four years.
Speaker 1: So I guess when she married Paul Byrne, her parents
Speaker 1: lived in this house. But apparently she haunts this house.
Speaker 1: So this Westwood one, there was a family that moved
Speaker 1: in in nineteen seventy. The day before moving in the
Speaker 1: woman of the family went upstairs and her dogs were barking. No,
Speaker 1: those seventy shoes. They weren't comfortable, nor her actual dogs
Speaker 1: were barking at an unseen presence. She says she heard
Speaker 1: a voice say, please help me. The first night that
Speaker 1: they stayed in this home, their bed was struck three
Speaker 1: times by a heavy force.
Speaker 3: About it was what did they have for dinner? So stupid?
Speaker 1: Well, the kitchen lights would go on and off. They
Speaker 1: heard a woman sobbing in their living room. There were
Speaker 1: cold spots and winds. Okay, I'm like, that's good from academy.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's great. The husband and wife both
Speaker 1: had a dream of the bathroom overflowing with water and bubbles.
Speaker 3: I didn't even even I think this is like new
Speaker 3: homeowner nightmares.
Speaker 1: Well, listen to this. They they both had this dream
Speaker 1: that they're taking a bath. It's overflowing with water and bubbles,
Speaker 1: and then a hand reaches out to the nearby light
Speaker 1: switch and gets electrocuted, and then they both like wake up.
Speaker 1: So they call an electrician, who was amazed by how
Speaker 1: out of date the light switch by the bathtub was,
Speaker 1: and they replaced it because they're like this, this is
Speaker 1: like a premonition, like you're going to get electrocuted. Right, So,
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's kind of interesting that both the
Speaker 1: husband and wife had the same dream. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, I also appreciate that it had a good ending,
Speaker 3: like it was a warning. Yeah, oh thank god we
Speaker 3: called the electrician. Yeah, because you usually think of like,
Speaker 3: you know, having the same dream or a ghost story
Speaker 3: as something negative, but it was like, hey, this electricity
Speaker 3: is old. Call an electrician immediately.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get zap honey.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: So another Hollywood blonde that we of course have to
Speaker 1: talk about is Maryland. Now you put a D on
Speaker 1: the end Maryland. Yes, you're right, I did. Maryland. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I say Maryland because that's a state. Yes, it is Maryland.
Speaker 1: Maryland Monroe, Marilynn Okay, so Marylyn Montre, Montro, Maryland Mondrou
Speaker 1: she is the most booked ghost in the afterlife. She
Speaker 1: has never stopped working. Oh she is everywhere.
Speaker 3: Booked and blessed.
Speaker 1: So apparently the home that she died and people see
Speaker 1: her wandering the gardens and they hear whispering in their ears.
Speaker 1: There's this girl who's a Marilyn impersonator named Jasmine Chiswell,
Speaker 1: and I think we covered her a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago because she was like kind of getting publicity. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this woman, she's a Maryland impersonator, like she like
Speaker 1: fully like lives her life looking like Marilyn Monroe. Happy birthday,
Speaker 1: Yes to you. She moved into that house, Oh of
Speaker 1: course she did. And she was like making videos saying that,
Speaker 1: wait a minute.
Speaker 3: Where did she get the money? Like this is someone
Speaker 3: I've never even heard of, and buying Marilyn Monroe's the
Speaker 3: place where she died. That's expensive.
Speaker 1: I didn't ask, but I believe she wasn't alone. So
Speaker 1: she made videos saying that people would feel hugged from
Speaker 1: nobody and they would hear voices and footsteps, so it
Speaker 1: must be Marilyn.
Speaker 3: Give me a mary lug. How Maryland, I'm trying to
Speaker 3: get haunted today. Why not Marilyn will show up like
Speaker 3: it's not Maryland. Great.
Speaker 1: I would love that She'll just hug you.
Speaker 3: Because she I'm weird.
Speaker 1: That's my Maryland.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's so bad.
Speaker 1: Well I'm not a Marilyn Monroe impersonator.
Speaker 3: Neither am I. But I can still do it.
Speaker 1: No, you can't.
Speaker 3: I tried.
Speaker 1: That was Varla Jeane Merman.
Speaker 3: Who I've been working with lately.
Speaker 1: I'm Merri moua. That's good. That's what she sounds like.
Speaker 1: Give me something to say with Marilyn Monroe knows it.
Speaker 3: Give a girl a break. I haven't had solid food
Speaker 3: in three days.
Speaker 1: Get a kid a break.
Speaker 3: Food. Can I tell you that story?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Okay, what is it? Years ago? We used to go
Speaker 3: to Rage every night. We even got an apartment up
Speaker 3: the street from Rage so we could walk there. The
Speaker 3: gay nightclub that is no longer.
Speaker 1: Now it's called Beeches Trapicana.
Speaker 3: It was called Heart for a brief period. I think
Speaker 3: that was a shameless money grab that failed spectacularly. Anyway,
Speaker 3: we used to go all the time. This is in
Speaker 3: the like eighties and after that, we would go to
Speaker 3: a restaurant called The Greenery and you know, have a
Speaker 3: bite to eat. And there was this older, sweaty, really
Speaker 3: bad Marilyn Monroe drag queen and it was packed and
Speaker 3: the waiter was walking by and she was trying to
Speaker 3: flag him down, and she would look at us like ah,
Speaker 3: and then she tried to flag him. She was like
Speaker 3: really performative. And at one point she turns to us
Speaker 3: and she's like, what's a girl got to do to
Speaker 3: get some flapjacks around here? And she was a little pudgy.
Speaker 3: She was a little pudgy, and one of us said,
Speaker 3: I think you need to slow down on those flapjacks, Marylyn,
Speaker 3: and she goes, give a girl break, I haven't had
Speaker 3: solid food in three days, diarrhea. Who was she did?
Speaker 1: She just like live like that all the time.
Speaker 3: I have no idea, but you know what it's like.
Speaker 3: The makeup was all clammy and it was bad, smelling
Speaker 3: like clams. It does not equal clammy. No, it was
Speaker 3: kind of like out of a movie, you know, like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, it's like a scene out of After Hours.
Speaker 1: That's what I would imagine. You come to Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: you see someone dressed like a Marilyn Monroe impersonator trying
Speaker 1: to get flapjacks. That feels very la in a movie.
Speaker 3: Also, you know she ate from around here flapjacks. We
Speaker 3: don't call them flapjacks on the West coast. That person
Speaker 3: was from Salina, Kansas.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Yeah, I guess it's pank. I don't eat
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, marylynd CA.
Speaker 1: Here's where else Marilyn is. She's also at the Rosabelt
Speaker 1: Hotel of course. Of course, of course she poses on
Speaker 1: the diving board because that's where she did a toothpaste ad,
Speaker 1: which was her first ever print ad. So apparently now
Speaker 1: she's still there doing the toothpaste ad. People see her.
Speaker 1: She would often stay in a cabana room which is
Speaker 1: still there, and they're like, ooh, it's the Maryland Suite.
Speaker 1: And I actually have been in there before. I went
Speaker 1: to someone's birthday party in there one time, and there
Speaker 1: was a mirror in there that she would look into
Speaker 1: that is haunted by her. At one point it was
Speaker 1: in the hotel and another point it was in the
Speaker 1: manager's office. A maid said that she saw quote a
Speaker 1: sad looking blonde looking into it. While she was cleaning it.
Speaker 3: Well, now there's no fair Sherry Vine was having her
Speaker 3: house fumigated and had to stay for a few days.
Speaker 3: Sad looking blonde, Well.
Speaker 1: There's no no word if the maid was a sad
Speaker 1: looking blonde woman herself, because I mean, if it's a
Speaker 1: mirror and you're Katie Guys.
Speaker 3: I would also like to think that maybe the manager
Speaker 3: was like, uh, why are there streaks all over this mirror?
Speaker 3: The ghost? Oh, you just blame everything on the ghost. Well.
Speaker 1: Also, it's like the Hollywood Roosevelt had a publicist in
Speaker 1: the nineties that was into the ghost thing. Because I
Speaker 1: feel like growing up being into Los Angeles and being
Speaker 1: into ghost stuff, it was always the Hollywood Roosevelt like,
Speaker 1: and it was always the mirror and the Marilyn Monroe
Speaker 1: and all of that. They also say, what's his name?
Speaker 1: Haunts it?
Speaker 3: Oh? I was trying to think of something funny.
Speaker 1: What's his name?
Speaker 3: I actually don't actor. Actor? That really narrows it down.
Speaker 1: Thank you, fifties sixties he was gay.
Speaker 3: But tab hunter, no.
Speaker 1: Rockhead, close warmer, suddenly last summer.
Speaker 3: Oh Montgomery Cliff, Montgomery.
Speaker 1: Cliff, he plays as his trombone or his trumpet.
Speaker 3: Oh, I bet he plays the trombone. Probably had a
Speaker 3: private suite.
Speaker 1: You play that trombone extra roasty.
Speaker 3: You do it better than me. That is so good
Speaker 3: people don't even know.
Speaker 1: Okay, So also let's see here, can I.
Speaker 3: Say one thing about Montgomery Cliff please? He was so gorgeous.
Speaker 3: And then if you watch Suddenly Last Summer, which have
Speaker 3: you seen it, it is so bonkers and I love
Speaker 3: it so much. But this was after his car accident,
Speaker 3: so he had facial reconstruction, and he knows he doesn't
Speaker 3: look like his old beautiful self. So the entire movie
Speaker 3: has like he's always apologizing with his eyes, like I know,
Speaker 3: I'm so I don't look like the old me.
Speaker 1: His grandson some kids, no, nephew, I don't know. One
Speaker 1: of his descendants made a documentary a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago about him, using like his actual like recordings of
Speaker 1: him speaking and stuff, and he like kind of clears
Speaker 1: up a lot of stuff about him. It's really interesting
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people thought that he
Speaker 1: was like really miserable and whatever, but he like wasn't.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, there is this like misconception that gay
Speaker 3: people were so miserable back in the day, and there's
Speaker 3: been a few really amazing documentaries. Don't ask for any
Speaker 3: of their names. Yeah, but that are like now the
Speaker 3: complete opposite. We had a whole community and everybody was
Speaker 3: like having a great time. I mean the only difference was, like,
Speaker 3: you know, you couldn't be completely open about it and
Speaker 3: walk down the street holding your boyfriend's hand, right, But
Speaker 3: like people were actually happy, and there were say spaces,
Speaker 3: and that's why they went to Palm Springs and you know,
Speaker 3: Fire Island and Provincetown. That's all. I just want the
Speaker 3: kids to know.
Speaker 1: No, that's good. I think they should know. They should
Speaker 1: also know that Marilyn Monroe's also with the Santa Monica Pear.
Speaker 1: What now, that's just some tourists. Shit, there's no way
Speaker 1: she's at the stand. It says that they see her
Speaker 1: sitting on a bench about the hippodrome.
Speaker 3: Excuse me. Okay, I know she was a size fourteen,
Speaker 3: but that is old school body shaming. Let me tell
Speaker 3: you something. Somebody who worked there was like, attendance is down. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I have an idea, yeah, totally, the ghost of Maryland Monroe.
Speaker 1: It's not a bad idea.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I need to do that for my
Speaker 3: next show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, be like a ghost.
Speaker 3: Will appear Marilyn Marylynd haunts my Yeah, why not?
Speaker 1: Also they say the Westwood Memory Real Cemetery where she's
Speaker 1: born or sorry, where she's Perry, where she's buried. People
Speaker 1: see a pink colored mist.
Speaker 3: That sounds more like Jane Mansfield.
Speaker 1: Well, she liked pink too, I guess. And she turns
Speaker 1: into a mist there. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: why that would happen, but whatever. They also see her
Speaker 1: at the Knickerbacker in Hollywood, Knickerbocker Hotel. She hangs out
Speaker 1: at the bar there, you know, the rooftop that's where
Speaker 1: the seances.
Speaker 3: Wini's wife Who's.
Speaker 1: Wife used to do seances to contact him.
Speaker 3: I know she has a name, and I hate saying
Speaker 3: she's gonna haunt us, Harrietta. Was it really no, my
Speaker 3: God to do what I fell for it? Yeah, Harrietta,
Speaker 3: I know that their.
Speaker 1: Secret Her name was Jeanie Genie.
Speaker 3: Oh dear, No. You know there's a Kate Bush song
Speaker 3: and it's called Houdini and it's all about trying. They said,
Speaker 3: when I die, we will have a secret phrase.
Speaker 1: Apparently he never did it.
Speaker 3: And the phrase was Rosabell believe. I think it was
Speaker 3: what Rosa Bell believe, or maybe it was just I'll
Speaker 3: call you Rosa Bell. And anyway, it's in the Kate
Speaker 3: Bush song Houdini, which is genius. The cover of the
Speaker 3: album is her kissing a guy who's dressed like Houdini,
Speaker 3: but you just see him from the back, and she's
Speaker 3: got a little key on her tongue because he used
Speaker 3: to kiss his wife before he did the escape routine,
Speaker 3: and she would pass a key to him through a
Speaker 3: kiss and then he'd be in there and take it
Speaker 3: out of his mouth and unlock.
Speaker 1: Oh so you're gonna ruin us.
Speaker 3: Spoiler alert.
Speaker 1: We just talked about the Masked Magician. Do you remember
Speaker 1: that guy?
Speaker 3: Uh? I know, the unknown comic.
Speaker 1: No maskedician, look at me when you said that.
Speaker 3: Not the unfunny comic. It's getting so listen.
Speaker 1: We're not even done with Maryland's don't do It?
Speaker 3: Shut Up? Can you tell him obsessed with her? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah? A shout out shout out to Luscio's mousacre love her? Okay,
Speaker 1: so also Marilyn Monroe. They there's a mirror at the
Speaker 1: El Capitan Theater, which is right next door to the
Speaker 1: Hollywood Roosevelt. So this girl is just looking in mirrors
Speaker 1: left and right, right next door. And in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: you remember, there was that like kind of controversial Netflix
Speaker 1: movie called Blonde. Oh god it was I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't watch it.
Speaker 3: It was horrible.
Speaker 1: But the actress Anna de Armas, she said that at
Speaker 1: the Venice Film Festival premiere the movie. She said that
Speaker 1: Maryland's ghost haunted the set. She said, quote, I think
Speaker 1: she was. She was happy. She would also throw things
Speaker 1: off the wall sometimes and get mad if she didn't
Speaker 1: like something.
Speaker 3: Okay, so she's literally everywhere.
Speaker 1: She's everywhere.
Speaker 3: I mean, she's getting around more than when she was
Speaker 3: alive and she got around. That was slut shaming, and
Speaker 3: I apologize.
Speaker 1: May West, Helly May West rules.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, She's everything.
Speaker 1: I love May West, So May West. According to a
Speaker 1: website called Bizarre Los Angeles, she haunts the Ravenswood apartments
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Do you know where that is? It's
Speaker 1: like mid Cities, It's like I feel like that's like
Speaker 1: Hancock Parky sort of area. She lived and died in
Speaker 1: the upper floors in nineteen eighty and she even allegedly
Speaker 1: told friends that as long as the building stands, she's
Speaker 1: gonna be there. Okay, oh, as long as the boulden style.
Speaker 1: I'm so good. Imprecious, you're bad. As long as the
Speaker 1: building styles local.
Speaker 3: As long as the building stands, honey, that was better.
Speaker 3: That was like me doing Alaska doing. Let me just
Speaker 3: say one thing. I love that she said, as long
Speaker 3: as the building stands, because I mean, don't you know
Speaker 3: how hauntings work. You know, the building doesn't need to
Speaker 3: be there. They could, like, you know, tear it down
Speaker 3: and put up in Arby's. And she's like, do you
Speaker 3: really want to order that? Honey?
Speaker 1: You want curl of Froz with that.
Speaker 3: The seasoned?
Speaker 1: Why did she talk like that? I'm happy to see people?
Speaker 3: How many years later I know I'm.
Speaker 1: Happy she did.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So here's an excerpt from her interview with an author
Speaker 1: John Coebel for his book called People Will Talk. She says,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes I just lie down in a semi
Speaker 1: dark room and I see crowds, individuals coming in like
Speaker 1: a montage. What do I sound like?
Speaker 3: She says?
Speaker 1: Now, I'm a very normal, healthy person. I don't imagine things.
Speaker 1: So when I see things and hear voices. I know
Speaker 1: there's something that exists around us.
Speaker 3: This is the worst Snatch Game episode ever. No, I
Speaker 3: love that she was kind of into the occult.
Speaker 1: No, she was. She was very into psychics. So she says,
Speaker 1: over the years, I developed my psychic powers. Everything was
Speaker 1: a thought before it was created. This table, this vase,
Speaker 1: they were thoughts before we made them. But I really
Speaker 1: didn't get involved in ESP until I met Thomas Kelly
Speaker 1: in nineteen forty one. He was a famous Quaker mystic.
Speaker 3: And do you know that Lady Bunny's parents are Quakers?
Speaker 3: No joke, I'm not even joking because you think I'm
Speaker 3: going to make a joke like that's why she looks
Speaker 3: like the Quaker oats guy out of drag or something.
Speaker 3: I'm not even kidding. But let me just say one thing.
Speaker 3: I actually got emotional when you read the part that
Speaker 3: said everything was a thought. This table, it's such a
Speaker 3: simple I'm not even kidding you. And how old I am,
Speaker 3: and I've never really thought of something that simple.
Speaker 1: Well, that's part of why I like ugly things so much.
Speaker 3: Is she just winked at me.
Speaker 1: Is because like things that other people you conventionally would
Speaker 1: say are ugly. It's like that is someone's vision. It
Speaker 1: was someone's vision, and that to me sometimes I look
Speaker 1: at like an ugly piece of art or like I
Speaker 1: don't know, some old antique and I'm like someone thought
Speaker 1: that they that that was like beautiful they took the
Speaker 1: time to make. And I do think about that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff.
Speaker 3: It's also subjective.
Speaker 1: I mean there's peoplelely and I don't think that it is.
Speaker 1: I don't look at it that way at all.
Speaker 3: I mean I used to joke, this is how old
Speaker 3: the joke is. If if Janice Joplin was on and
Speaker 3: thank god she's not a blonde, or she would be
Speaker 3: the subject you know part of today's podcast.
Speaker 1: Didn't you stay in the room?
Speaker 3: I think it was the room. I know I stayed
Speaker 3: there at the Highland Gardens, Yeah, that hotel. But here's
Speaker 3: my point, Like if she was on American Idol, they
Speaker 3: would be like, girl, run a comb through your hair,
Speaker 3: you're a bit pitchy, dog, lose twenty pounds, do you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like she's one of the most
Speaker 3: amazing iconic voices, just like we were talking about with
Speaker 3: may West, Like you know, anything that kind of strays
Speaker 3: from who cares about a perfect singing voice? Who cares?
Speaker 3: I mean, a beautiful voice is great, but give me
Speaker 3: some emotion, give me Chrissy Hind. I listened to Chrissy
Speaker 3: Hind of the Pretenders, and sometimes I'm like, I would
Speaker 3: never have thought. And I'm a singer, I never would
Speaker 3: have thought to sing it like that? And is that
Speaker 3: actually the right note? She's kind of like right under it,
Speaker 3: But it really pulls at your heart strings. I know
Speaker 3: it's turning into like Hallmark, but yeah, no, yeah, I
Speaker 3: agree with you. And people are starved for reality, real reality,
Speaker 3: not like reality TV authenticity or originality. Yeah, and even flaws.
Speaker 3: That's why have you ever done a show?
Speaker 1: That's why I like you.
Speaker 3: Thank you, And people you know come up after the
Speaker 3: show and they're like, oh, my favorite part is when
Speaker 3: you totally fucked up, and I'm like, really, thanks a lot.
Speaker 3: But then I think about it and it's like we're
Speaker 3: craving that we want something real, real, not ai heh.
Speaker 1: So she goes on to say that the forces for
Speaker 1: good and evil were coming in. I could hear psychic
Speaker 1: voices and see people all the time, and they kept
Speaker 1: me awake at night. If you told this to people
Speaker 1: about hearing voices, They think you were mad or something.
Speaker 1: Now I know I must have always had these voices
Speaker 1: telling me things. You see, they helped me several times
Speaker 1: when I was really in a problem and I didn't
Speaker 1: know how to get out of it, Like the court
Speaker 1: case I had. I was being sued for one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars and I knew I was innocent, but I
Speaker 1: didn't know how to handle the case. I was lying
Speaker 1: in my bed when suddenly this voice comes to me,
Speaker 1: very beautiful, deep man's voice, speaking in an old English accent,
Speaker 1: with the and dows. That was the way he was speaking.
Speaker 1: And this was in nineteen forty eight, and I knew
Speaker 1: I had heard that voice before, back in nineteen forty one.
Speaker 1: I had always remembered it because it was very distinguishable.
Speaker 3: Who was it?
Speaker 1: I guess you're never gonna know.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: She went out to say that the spirit voice told
Speaker 1: her what to say in court, helping her to win
Speaker 1: the case.
Speaker 3: Oh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: After it was over, I wanted to know for myself
Speaker 1: what kind of person that voice belonged to. I asked
Speaker 1: the dictionary about it, and I opened it up when
Speaker 1: it said clergy, So I know it was a man
Speaker 1: from the clergy, you know, back in the eighteenth or
Speaker 1: nineteenth century. I think she could have just filled in
Speaker 1: the blanks. So I have this book. You know how
Speaker 1: I collect these things.
Speaker 3: I'm just so sorry. Think about how scary it would
Speaker 3: be to be sued for one hundred thousand dollars back
Speaker 3: in the forties.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of money.
Speaker 3: Five million dollars or something.
Speaker 1: Oh that's not then, but that would be a lot
Speaker 1: for you. Huh girl, I'm just kidding. Okay, So you
Speaker 1: know how I collect these old books. Yes, this is
Speaker 1: what I have called I Believe in Ghosts, And it's
Speaker 1: a celebrity book. And it says, as told and recounted
Speaker 1: by Danton Walker. What year is this? This is nineteen.
Speaker 1: I believe it's the sixties. Nineteen fifty six.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's forty years before the sixties.
Speaker 1: Oh my, guys, five years after you were born. So
Speaker 1: there is a chapter where she talks about her it's
Speaker 1: called may West's Spirit Friends. Oh, she's filled with them.
Speaker 1: So she was really into.
Speaker 3: May West's spirit legal advisors.
Speaker 1: Yes, there's also a story about Ida Lapino and burl
Speaker 1: Ives Okay, and Guthrie mclin tick and nol Coward. I've
Speaker 1: heard of that one.
Speaker 3: You've heard of Noel Coward?
Speaker 1: Yeah for cool?
Speaker 3: That one cool?
Speaker 1: But I don't know who Guthrie mcclinkle.
Speaker 3: No, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: Okay, should we do please?
Speaker 3: I took an improv class, so just yes.
Speaker 1: And I took an improv cluster in the pandemic with
Speaker 1: a really better connection, so I can do like half
Speaker 1: like I can.
Speaker 3: You can only do yes.
Speaker 1: No, I can ask for a suggestion from the audience.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, and that's it. Well, here's the thing. Even
Speaker 3: if it cuts out, it's always going to be a gynecologist.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, because the audience thinks they're being funny.
Speaker 1: Jackie. Yes, I got a haunted doll for you, like
Speaker 1: physically now, Oh God, just act like you. Listen to
Speaker 1: this fucking podcast. Every single week we feature a haunted
Speaker 1: doll from eBay. It's time for the dolls are living? Okay,
Speaker 1: So I go to eBay dot com. I type in
Speaker 1: haunted doll. I search through hundreds of listings till I
Speaker 1: find one that is just right, this one. I've never
Speaker 1: found one more right for a guest ever. Jackie, you're
Speaker 1: gonna think that I made this up. This ghost is
Speaker 1: going for thirty four dollars and thirty cents or best offer.
Speaker 1: The ghosts is side this doll. The doll's name is
Speaker 1: Jackie jeeha show is Jackie?
Speaker 3: You got it?
Speaker 1: Raz I did not make this up, Jackie speechless.
Speaker 3: Well, it kind of looks like me after a date.
Speaker 3: The smeared lipstick. I don't have blue eyes, but I
Speaker 3: am bald.
Speaker 1: I just so you know, Jackie, that's not a mirror
Speaker 1: that you're looking at. That's a screen. Uh oh uh oh,
Speaker 1: the blond wigs coming off.
Speaker 3: Wait wait, hold on, where's my camera? Ready? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what we're looking at here is a bald,
Speaker 1: feminine doll that does not have any eyebrows, smeared lipstick,
Speaker 1: blue eyes.
Speaker 3: I do wear that color as eyeshadow her eyeballs. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but can we look at picture three. She's got a waste,
Speaker 3: so that kind of shoots it down. She's heightweight to
Speaker 3: proportion it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would never. You would never wear that outfit either.
Speaker 1: That's she's very Victorian. Well she comes with a bio. Okay,
Speaker 1: it says the person selling this wrote I received her
Speaker 1: through a friend who collects vintage toys, someone who doesn't
Speaker 1: usually deal with spirit vessels, and they felt uneasy with
Speaker 1: her quote. She doesn't scare me, my friend admitted, But
Speaker 1: I feel like she's sad, like she doesn't belong with me.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Of all the pictures, that is the creepiest
Speaker 3: just lighting.
Speaker 1: Well, they did take a picture where they made the
Speaker 1: lighting spooky, which is very important when you're trying to
Speaker 1: sell these I think you need to make them look
Speaker 1: a little scary, it says. The moment I held Jackie's vessel,
Speaker 1: I understood her energy was dis subtle, but layered, carrying
Speaker 1: the weight of something deeply personal. She wasn't restless, she
Speaker 1: wasn't angry. She was just waiting for the right person,
Speaker 1: for someone who could understand. Jackie was young when she passed,
Speaker 1: like in her early twenties around nineteen eighty. She carries
Speaker 1: the vibrant yet fragile energy of a girl just beginning
Speaker 1: to understand herself. Through deep meditation. I've received flashes of
Speaker 1: her past. I get the feeling she spent much of
Speaker 1: her time on the outside, looking in, searching for acceptance
Speaker 1: in a world that didn't always offer it. I sense
Speaker 1: that she was part of the LGBTQ community, perhaps questioning,
Speaker 1: perhaps certain, but never fully embraced. Whether she kept this
Speaker 1: part of herself a secret or faced rejection for it.
Speaker 1: The energy around her speaks of a quiet battle. She
Speaker 1: doesn't seek. She doesn't even seem mad most of the time,
Speaker 1: but there's a longing in her energy, a need to
Speaker 1: be recognized, to be seen. So some of the things
Speaker 1: she does unexplained. Music comes out of her, cold breezes,
Speaker 1: object shifting, dream communication, electronics, acting up you know.
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, I like the lgbt Q plus pandering part. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a lot.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, she definitely is uh messed up. Well,
Speaker 1: she's like in a dress and she's sort of just
Speaker 1: based on her makeup and hair.
Speaker 3: Can we she feels I imagine like if we bought her,
Speaker 3: what we might hear? A disembodied voice? Can I do
Speaker 3: an impersonation? Please? There's my vague there's mad ivy.
Speaker 1: Oh that's how you think she would talk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's like somebody stole her wig right before
Speaker 3: like a major event or function. She has never been
Speaker 3: the same.
Speaker 1: See, that's what's interesting about It's almost as if she
Speaker 1: did have a wig, because you know how usually with
Speaker 1: a doll. It comes out of your head.
Speaker 3: There's no plug.
Speaker 1: There are no plug.
Speaker 3: She didn't go to turkey.
Speaker 1: She didn't go to turkey.
Speaker 3: That was the bird, not like some Middle Eastern I
Speaker 3: just did my turkey.
Speaker 1: I can't even do a fucking turkey.
Speaker 3: God, what is going on with you?
Speaker 1: I am not known for my impressions.
Speaker 3: That's why you are obsessed with celebrity impersonators. You really
Speaker 3: can't do it. Let's guess we're both vegans. We shouldn't
Speaker 3: be mockery. That is so bad.
Speaker 1: That is bad. What is wrong with that poor turkey?
Speaker 3: That's all right, But I'm good. I have other talents, yes,
Speaker 3: be jeweling boots and mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Going to YouTube and finding ghost recordings.
Speaker 3: It's time for EVP.
Speaker 1: Or ev plase.
Speaker 3: These actually creep me out, you know they do.
Speaker 1: Fun fun. Well, these are two from a YouTube channel
Speaker 1: called the Space Coast Paranormal Society.
Speaker 3: Okay, really rolls off the tongue.
Speaker 1: I don't know where these locations are. Doesn't necessarily say,
Speaker 1: but they are two evp's, and I want you to
Speaker 1: guess what this ghost is saying.
Speaker 3: I'm scared, Jackie.
Speaker 1: Here's the first one.
Speaker 3: Okay, do it again. Oh my gosh, it's very hard
Speaker 3: to hear. Are you in the dark?
Speaker 1: Are you in the dark in? That's not what they believe.
Speaker 1: Did they think it was a your drama girl? Okay,
Speaker 1: B you want this to work? C you don't have
Speaker 1: to worry? Or D you said this wouldn't hurt.
Speaker 3: It's either B or D because I thought it was
Speaker 3: are you in the dark and work and hurt? Sound
Speaker 3: more like that to me, So I really think that
Speaker 3: they are usual sometimes more innocuous. You want this to work?
Speaker 1: Well, they think it was C you don't have to worry? Again?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, now I hear it, Green Needle. I think
Speaker 1: it could be you don't have to work, like them
Speaker 1: being like, you don't have to work? What are your parents?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 1: Have you had a husband? Like that's what it sounds like. Listen,
Speaker 1: you don't have to work. But they think it's you
Speaker 1: don't have to work.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's the ghost like what are you doing here
Speaker 3: with this recording device? Don't don't you have to work?
Speaker 1: I love ghosts, like throwing shade at ghosts. Hunters love that.
Speaker 3: But do you know those things where you listen to
Speaker 3: it and whatever you're reading, like Green needle. You've never
Speaker 3: seen that one?
Speaker 1: Oh, and it will say and those are so scary,
Speaker 1: they're so weird.
Speaker 3: It just goes to show you that reality, like we
Speaker 3: really are in the matrix.
Speaker 1: What you're talking about is like you see a video
Speaker 1: that will pop up in your algorithm or whatever, and
Speaker 1: it's like, whichever one you read, it will say out loud, that's.
Speaker 3: What you will hear. Yes, yeah, yeah, there is.
Speaker 1: I just remember green needle. Yeah, yeah, what is the other?
Speaker 3: I don't even remember the others, but green needle is
Speaker 3: such a specific substance. The substance green needle. Okay, let's
Speaker 3: do this.
Speaker 1: Here's another one. I don't know the location, but what
Speaker 1: is it saying?
Speaker 3: Terrified? Oh my god? Okay, give me the choices.
Speaker 1: Did they think it was a let's not say we did, okay,
Speaker 1: I know you do.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Did they think it was B stop I'm not here,
Speaker 1: which is a funny thing.
Speaker 3: That's a movie title, A twenty four honey?
Speaker 1: Do they think it was C it's that time a
Speaker 1: year or D. That's not my finger.
Speaker 3: That's not my finger, that's what he said. That's not
Speaker 3: my finger. This is.
Speaker 1: They believe it's base stop, I'm not here.
Speaker 3: It literally sounds like that's not my finger.
Speaker 1: Though listen, let's listen for stop I'm not here.
Speaker 3: That sounds like there's a tail end like right now
Speaker 3: or something stuff I'm not here right now.
Speaker 2: Or.
Speaker 3: There's a little trail even on stop that's not my
Speaker 3: or that's not my finger? Can you you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a little trail like there's another one
Speaker 3: or two syllables after everything. We think it's.
Speaker 1: I think it's that's not my finger. But uh, it's
Speaker 1: hilarious that it said stop I'm not here, Like that's
Speaker 1: such a funny thing for a ghost, Like you're trying
Speaker 1: to contact a ghost and they're like, stop, I'm not here.
Speaker 1: I'm not home right now.
Speaker 3: Oh it had an answering machine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny to me.
Speaker 3: Stop I'm not here is a really good title because
Speaker 3: it's just such a strange phrase. Stop I'm not here.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I like it.
Speaker 1: Well, we need to stop and you need to not
Speaker 1: be here because now the podcast is over.
Speaker 3: That's called a callback, Ladies and gentlemen, even though usually
Speaker 3: there's more time in between.
Speaker 1: It's a quick one, a quick yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well I have had a wonderful time Hey, I've had.
Speaker 1: A great time too. It's always nice to see it.
Speaker 3: It's always nice to see you.
Speaker 1: So what is going on? Where are you at? What
Speaker 1: do people need to know?
Speaker 3: Well, I you know, you know this personally, I've been
Speaker 3: taking a bit of a break and just kind of like,
Speaker 3: you know, when you've done drag for thirty six years
Speaker 3: and now it's like such a drag race world and
Speaker 3: now it's almost a post drag race world. I don't
Speaker 3: even think drag race has the power it used to.
Speaker 3: And there's just so many you know, former contestants and
Speaker 3: everybody's just vying for work and beat bop boop doodle dooce.
Speaker 3: So I've just kind of like pulled back a little
Speaker 3: bit and just haven't felt the need to work quite
Speaker 3: as much. I've been writing for a lot of different people,
Speaker 3: performers and you know otherwise. But now I'm kind of
Speaker 3: getting the itch again because you know how much we
Speaker 3: love drag even though I bitch and moan about it,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 1: Know how much you have an itch, yeah, which you
Speaker 1: do need to take care of.
Speaker 3: That's not my finger, cool back, don't do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So just kind of like to take a break.
Speaker 3: I'm just not feeling desperate. But then there is a
Speaker 3: point where you're like, really that wig there is I
Speaker 3: tried to have fun with you. There's a theme, and
Speaker 3: some people are just like they won't even play with
Speaker 3: the theme, or I think it's great. No, I just
Speaker 3: I but you know, when you're not working, even though
Speaker 3: I have been writing, and that's like, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: sitting in bed in my underwear with my dogs in
Speaker 3: the laptop, and then I just like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I just made like you know, kitching without having to
Speaker 3: get all dulled up or leave town or whatever. But
Speaker 3: nothing takes the place of live performances. And you know,
Speaker 3: I'm used to like working a lot, and when you're
Speaker 3: not getting money.
Speaker 1: It's not good for a here like that mighty to
Speaker 1: be a capitalist, but like you need to work and
Speaker 1: receive something like it doesn't have to be money, but
Speaker 1: like some type of reward for if you have a
Speaker 1: passion you know to do it and.
Speaker 3: To well you're thinking a lot more like I don't
Speaker 3: know esoterically even then. I I was just meant, when
Speaker 3: the money's not coming in, it's scary how quickly it
Speaker 3: goes down because you're still having to pay all those bills,
Speaker 3: and this is Los Angeles, and you know it's got
Speaker 3: to pay the mortgage and the this and the that
Speaker 3: and the car lease, and so you don't even think
Speaker 3: about it when you're just working constantly. But Sherry Vine
Speaker 3: and I do the Golden Girls Brunch. It's the fourth
Speaker 3: Sunday of every month at Precinct and it is so fun.
Speaker 3: I'm not kidding you. People wear calf hands, they dress
Speaker 3: up like the characters. We have trivia. It's really super
Speaker 3: fun and it's just me and Sherry. You know, sometimes
Speaker 3: those drag brunches are like, you know, six girls, and
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, God love them. They're doing death
Speaker 3: drops and flip flopping all over the place. But this
Speaker 3: is all live singing, and you know, it's really really,
Speaker 3: really fun.
Speaker 1: You're not flip flopping, No, you're not wearing flip flops.
Speaker 3: Of course I'm wearing flip flops.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, my feet hurt. All right, yeah, plug one
Speaker 1: more thing and then we gotta go.
Speaker 3: If you need anyone to write anything for you, if
Speaker 3: you have a project that already exists and you just
Speaker 3: want it punched up with just a layer of jokes,
Speaker 3: a sprinkling of jokes and the Sprinkles cupcakes of jokes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know the best in the biz. Well,
Speaker 1: who's written for within your Joan Rivers?
Speaker 3: Yes, within your budget. I wouldn't say I'm the best,
Speaker 3: but yeah, Joan Rivers and some other people, a lot
Speaker 3: of people. I've been fired by everyone in town. You know.
Speaker 1: That's one thing I forgot to mention that you love me? Yes,
Speaker 1: of course I love you. How many people say that
Speaker 1: you and I are very similar people?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you were telling you that the other night,
Speaker 3: And at first I was like.
Speaker 1: What, Yeah, but we we're not. We are very similar
Speaker 1: in terms of interests. We both saw the movie Carry
Speaker 1: at a young age and it formed us. We both
Speaker 1: like kookie glasses and over the top.
Speaker 3: We love artifice. We like camp. I always say one
Speaker 3: of my mantras is have the courage to be camp. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, like be on the red carpet dressed like
Speaker 3: a swan, have everybody wondering is she serious? Like have fun.
Speaker 3: Life is short. I'll never understand people who want less, less,
Speaker 3: culture less, you know, different, Like they get mad because
Speaker 3: somebody's speaking a different language. This is America. It's like, honey,
Speaker 3: I want to try every food as long as it's vegan.
Speaker 3: I want to, you know, listen to different music and
Speaker 3: like that's why my drag, you know, I don't have
Speaker 3: that signature. Lady Bunny is always that same silhouette, always
Speaker 3: a blonde. Same with Sherry Varlajeene Merman's always a redhead.
Speaker 3: Coco Peru or as I call her, old one wig,
Speaker 3: you know, an outfit from cheekos and that wig. But
Speaker 3: I'm like, one day I'm doing the girls look, then
Speaker 3: I'm doing like the sixties. Then I'm doing like Satanic,
Speaker 3: you know, Housewife, seventies, you know, then eighties, you know,
Speaker 3: like gem and the Holograms. Like I get bored. I
Speaker 3: want everything. I want more, more, more, And I think
Speaker 3: you're the same, even though you have a signature look,
Speaker 3: and that is good for branding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we like colors, oh we do. We like colors,
Speaker 1: and we like flavor antiques. Oh, we love spooky things.
Speaker 3: I'm a spooky antique. That's why you love me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we like little dogs. Oh, little dogs are
Speaker 1: back for both of us.
Speaker 3: That picture you sent me.
Speaker 1: Of my little Chucky, Oh my god, we both have
Speaker 1: little white dogs.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Well I'm sorry that this will be the last
Speaker 1: time I see.
Speaker 3: You because you're gonna hit it big.
Speaker 1: No, I'm just I'm done. Oh it's been a jer
Speaker 1: it's been exhausting, and I think it's time we end this.
Speaker 3: Oh okay works for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So we'll figure out a way to salvage this.
Speaker 3: This was damn good. All right, it was, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: That's not my finger? Yeah, sure. I love Jackie Feet.
Speaker 1: Isn't she something? She's something, that's for sure. Ah, thank
Speaker 1: you for listening. I will talk to you very soon.
Speaker 1: Tell everyone you know about this podcast please, and you know,
Speaker 1: see me on tour and stuff like that. Find me
Speaker 1: on Instagram, all of that. I love you all, both
Speaker 1: living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to
Speaker 1: haunt me, don't haunt me came back. This has been
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Speaker 1: startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming Christina Chamberlain.
Speaker 1: This episode was mixed and sound designed by the eerie
Speaker 1: Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner.
Speaker 1: My theme music is by the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon.
Speaker 1: Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the Chilling Karen Kilgareth, the
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