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Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky

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Speaker 1: and jooky. I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I'm ghosted.

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Speaker 1: Ims nandas.

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Speaker 2: Please Hey boo, it's me Rose and welcome to Ghosted

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Speaker 2: by ros Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people

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Speaker 2: that I like about the baron normal. Oh.

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Speaker 3: One of my.

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Speaker 1: Dearest is on the show, the legendary Jackie beat. If

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Speaker 1: you don't know who that is, look her up. She's uh,

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Speaker 1: she's one of a kind, that's for sure, legendary drag queen.

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Speaker 1: She's been doing it longer than I've been alive, and

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Speaker 1: she's very good at it, and she's very funny. We

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Speaker 1: have a good time. I think you'll enjoy it. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let me read you a ghost story because just a warning,

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Speaker 1: you ain't gonna get any more of those out of Jackie.

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Speaker 1: This is Jackie's what is it third time maybe that

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Speaker 1: she's been on this podcast over the years, and she's

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Speaker 1: been very she's been very good to us in the

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Speaker 1: ghost department. But I think we have squeezed that well dry.

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Speaker 1: We have milked that cow till there are no more

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Speaker 1: drops of milk coming out that are ghost related. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I did just call her a cow. Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 1: This one's from Colin. Colin writes, Hi, lovely Rose, love

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Speaker 1: you love the show. Ah, here's my ghost story and

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Speaker 1: and here we go. In university, I worked at our

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Speaker 1: theater department's assistant technical director. The theater building is the

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Speaker 1: oldest building on campus, built around nineteen ten, and it

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Speaker 1: has this gorgeous one hundred and seventy four see theater

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Speaker 1: trying to talk dirty to me? This is like, ugh,

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Speaker 1: my favorite thing to hear about Victorian theater, marble, faux marble. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Over the summer, the building was locked

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Speaker 1: One day, I was in my office when I heard

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Speaker 1: to towards the door that led backstage, and sure enough

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Speaker 1: I heard a woman singing scales or arpeggios on the stage.

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Speaker 1: I opened the door, and the singing stopped. The theater

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Speaker 1: We don't use a ghost light because it's an end

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Speaker 1: somebody accidentally whoa like you ever see that time Kelsey

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Speaker 1: I decided I was leaving for the day. As I

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Speaker 1: I fled. Later on, I was doing some research on

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Speaker 1: of a fireman try to cruise me? Should I have

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Speaker 1: don't know why not. You know it's a good story.

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Speaker 1: you know you just email ghosted by ros at gmail

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Speaker 1: dot com. You write it all nice and as and

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Speaker 1: good parts. Colin did it right. Yeah, keep them coming

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Speaker 1: on in. I'm on tour rozhardatistour dot com. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: we've added some new ones. We've added Seattle, We've added Richmond.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going all over the place. Baby. We're

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Speaker 1: So please tell everyone you know and come see me. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go. It's my conversation once again with Jackie

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Speaker 1: beat and with the show. I am joined by a

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Speaker 1: woman I found in Reno at a slot machine. At

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Speaker 1: least that's what it appears. Jackie beat Oh wow, Well

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Speaker 1: Jackie currently has on razzle dazzle shades and a Betty White.

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Speaker 3: Wig, Benny White adjacent Benny White adjacent, like she got

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you sort of are giving that with with a

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you. When I was driving here, you know,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was meant to be.

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Speaker 3: It was meant to be.

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Speaker 1: It was pasusu, pazuzu. That's from the Heretic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the second one. See now that one. We just

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Speaker 3: Oh, the curse the movie made you know, fifty years ago.

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Speaker 3: Everyone in it is dead. This is crazy.

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Speaker 3: I feel like maybe William was freaking out about the

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Speaker 1: I love that his last name is freakin' freaking well

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Speaker 3: When I first moved to Los Angeles and I was

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Speaker 3: working at Sunset Gower Studios at Sunset and Gower, God,

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Speaker 3: they really named that studio. They come up with that anyway,

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Speaker 3: somebody I was working with was like, oh, yeah, Bill

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Speaker 3: Friedkin always used to Billy Friedkin used to say, and

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Speaker 1: I thought it was just so like you know, the

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Speaker 1: freed can I know, Well, you're here because.

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Speaker 3: You somebody canceled.

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Speaker 1: No, you're here because you told me you have an

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Speaker 3: I know you think that's a setup because this is

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Speaker 3: and gentlemen, full disclosure, friends in italics, friends in quotes.

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Speaker 3: It's Hollywood. I told you that, you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, this is baffling to me. First of all,

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Speaker 3: Tried to seduce me the most gorgeous blueprint of my lust.

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Speaker 1: And because you were sad, you painted all your walls black. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And I said no, that would have been your opportunity

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Speaker 3: And now I'm here talking to you for the third time.

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Speaker 1: You should have said yes, I know, but you did it.

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Speaker 1: That's such a good story.

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Speaker 1: We also heard the time you had to share dream

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Speaker 1: What else have we heard from you? Some other bullshit

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Speaker 3: Out when I was staying at a hotel in San

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Speaker 1: Yes, that was the Vertigo Hotel, I believe.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they filmed a scene and it wasn't called that

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Speaker 1: And then I also remember one time you telling a

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, and there was a oh and also there

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Speaker 1: DTA love you, babe, but you said that it was

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Speaker 3: And Dita was like, stop it. Now, I need a

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Speaker 3: And that's why you are at the top of your game, lady.

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Speaker 3: I get it. That was Jackie plus Colombo the young

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Speaker 3: Please google Columbu.

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Speaker 1: Bring the house.

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Speaker 3: Famed hairstylist, famed hairstylists to the male stars.

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Speaker 1: That's always an interesting point.

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Speaker 3: Well, he also did Sharon Tate's hair, right, He also

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Speaker 1: Right. Yes, So he bought the house in nineteen sixty

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Speaker 3: Do you know why I love that story? It is

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Speaker 1: It's scary.

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Speaker 1: Also, I should mention, while we're on the Sharon Tate,

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I appreciate that Sharon would go

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Speaker 1: There's this girl who's a Marilyn impersonator named Jasmine Chiswell,

437
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: and I think we covered her a couple of years

438
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: ago because she was like kind of getting publicity. Okay,

439
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: so this woman, she's a Maryland impersonator, like she like

440
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: fully like lives her life looking like Marilyn Monroe. Happy birthday,

441
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: Yes to you. She moved into that house, Oh of

442
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: course she did. And she was like making videos saying that,

443
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: wait a minute.

444
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: Where did she get the money? Like this is someone

445
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: I've never even heard of, and buying Marilyn Monroe's the

446
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 3: place where she died. That's expensive.

447
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: I didn't ask, but I believe she wasn't alone. So

448
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: she made videos saying that people would feel hugged from

449
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: nobody and they would hear voices and footsteps, so it

450
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: must be Marilyn.

451
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 3: Give me a mary lug. How Maryland, I'm trying to

452
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: get haunted today. Why not Marilyn will show up like

453
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: it's not Maryland. Great.

454
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: I would love that She'll just hug you.

455
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: Because she I'm weird.

456
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 1: That's my Maryland.

457
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's so bad.

458
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: Well I'm not a Marilyn Monroe impersonator.

459
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 3: Neither am I. But I can still do it.

460
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: No, you can't.

461
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 3: I tried.

462
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: That was Varla Jeane Merman.

463
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 3: Who I've been working with lately.

464
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: I'm Merri moua. That's good. That's what she sounds like.

465
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: Give me something to say with Marilyn Monroe knows it.

466
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: Give a girl a break. I haven't had solid food

467
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 3: in three days.

468
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: Get a kid a break.

469
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 3: Food. Can I tell you that story?

470
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: No?

471
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: Okay, what is it? Years ago? We used to go

472
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: to Rage every night. We even got an apartment up

473
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 3: the street from Rage so we could walk there. The

474
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: gay nightclub that is no longer.

475
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: Now it's called Beeches Trapicana.

476
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 3: It was called Heart for a brief period. I think

477
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: that was a shameless money grab that failed spectacularly. Anyway,

478
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: we used to go all the time. This is in

479
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: the like eighties and after that, we would go to

480
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: a restaurant called The Greenery and you know, have a

481
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: bite to eat. And there was this older, sweaty, really

482
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: bad Marilyn Monroe drag queen and it was packed and

483
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 3: the waiter was walking by and she was trying to

484
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: flag him down, and she would look at us like ah,

485
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: and then she tried to flag him. She was like

486
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 3: really performative. And at one point she turns to us

487
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: and she's like, what's a girl got to do to

488
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: get some flapjacks around here? And she was a little pudgy.

489
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: She was a little pudgy, and one of us said,

490
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 3: I think you need to slow down on those flapjacks, Marylyn,

491
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: and she goes, give a girl break, I haven't had

492
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: solid food in three days, diarrhea. Who was she did?

493
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: She just like live like that all the time.

494
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 3: I have no idea, but you know what it's like.

495
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: The makeup was all clammy and it was bad, smelling

496
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 3: like clams. It does not equal clammy. No, it was

497
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: kind of like out of a movie, you know, like,

498
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 3: oh my god, it's like a scene out of After Hours.

499
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: That's what I would imagine. You come to Los Angeles,

500
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: you see someone dressed like a Marilyn Monroe impersonator trying

501
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: to get flapjacks. That feels very la in a movie.

502
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 3: Also, you know she ate from around here flapjacks. We

503
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 3: don't call them flapjacks on the West coast. That person

504
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: was from Salina, Kansas.

505
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Yeah, I guess it's pank. I don't eat

506
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: like that.

507
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, marylynd CA.

508
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: Here's where else Marilyn is. She's also at the Rosabelt

509
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: Hotel of course. Of course, of course she poses on

510
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: the diving board because that's where she did a toothpaste ad,

511
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 1: which was her first ever print ad. So apparently now

512
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: she's still there doing the toothpaste ad. People see her.

513
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: She would often stay in a cabana room which is

514
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: still there, and they're like, ooh, it's the Maryland Suite.

515
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: And I actually have been in there before. I went

516
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: to someone's birthday party in there one time, and there

517
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: was a mirror in there that she would look into

518
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: that is haunted by her. At one point it was

519
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: in the hotel and another point it was in the

520
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: manager's office. A maid said that she saw quote a

521
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: sad looking blonde looking into it. While she was cleaning it.

522
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: Well, now there's no fair Sherry Vine was having her

523
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 3: house fumigated and had to stay for a few days.

524
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: Sad looking blonde, Well.

525
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: There's no no word if the maid was a sad

526
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: looking blonde woman herself, because I mean, if it's a

527
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: mirror and you're Katie Guys.

528
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: I would also like to think that maybe the manager

529
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: was like, uh, why are there streaks all over this mirror?

530
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 3: The ghost? Oh, you just blame everything on the ghost. Well.

531
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: Also, it's like the Hollywood Roosevelt had a publicist in

532
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: the nineties that was into the ghost thing. Because I

533
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: feel like growing up being into Los Angeles and being

534
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: into ghost stuff, it was always the Hollywood Roosevelt like,

535
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: and it was always the mirror and the Marilyn Monroe

536
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: and all of that. They also say, what's his name?

537
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: Haunts it?

538
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: Oh? I was trying to think of something funny.

539
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: What's his name?

540
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: I actually don't actor. Actor? That really narrows it down.

541
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: Thank you, fifties sixties he was gay.

542
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: But tab hunter, no.

543
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: Rockhead, close warmer, suddenly last summer.

544
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: Oh Montgomery Cliff, Montgomery.

545
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: Cliff, he plays as his trombone or his trumpet.

546
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: Oh, I bet he plays the trombone. Probably had a

547
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: private suite.

548
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: You play that trombone extra roasty.

549
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 3: You do it better than me. That is so good

550
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: people don't even know.

551
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So also let's see here, can I.

552
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 3: Say one thing about Montgomery Cliff please? He was so gorgeous.

553
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: And then if you watch Suddenly Last Summer, which have

554
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: you seen it, it is so bonkers and I love

555
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: it so much. But this was after his car accident,

556
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: so he had facial reconstruction, and he knows he doesn't

557
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,479
Speaker 3: look like his old beautiful self. So the entire movie

558
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 3: has like he's always apologizing with his eyes, like I know,

559
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: I'm so I don't look like the old me.

560
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: His grandson some kids, no, nephew, I don't know. One

561
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: of his descendants made a documentary a couple of years

562
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: ago about him, using like his actual like recordings of

563
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: him speaking and stuff, and he like kind of clears

564
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: up a lot of stuff about him. It's really interesting

565
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people thought that he

566
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: was like really miserable and whatever, but he like wasn't.

567
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 3: Well, you know, there is this like misconception that gay

568
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: people were so miserable back in the day, and there's

569
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 3: been a few really amazing documentaries. Don't ask for any

570
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 3: of their names. Yeah, but that are like now the

571
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 3: complete opposite. We had a whole community and everybody was

572
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: like having a great time. I mean the only difference was, like,

573
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 3: you know, you couldn't be completely open about it and

574
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 3: walk down the street holding your boyfriend's hand, right, But

575
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: like people were actually happy, and there were say spaces,

576
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: and that's why they went to Palm Springs and you know,

577
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 3: Fire Island and Provincetown. That's all. I just want the

578
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 3: kids to know.

579
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: No, that's good. I think they should know. They should

580
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: also know that Marilyn Monroe's also with the Santa Monica Pear.

581
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: What now, that's just some tourists. Shit, there's no way

582
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: she's at the stand. It says that they see her

583
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: sitting on a bench about the hippodrome.

584
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: Excuse me. Okay, I know she was a size fourteen,

585
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: but that is old school body shaming. Let me tell

586
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: you something. Somebody who worked there was like, attendance is down. Yeah.

587
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 3: I have an idea, yeah, totally, the ghost of Maryland Monroe.

588
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: It's not a bad idea.

589
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I need to do that for my

590
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 3: next show.

591
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, be like a ghost.

592
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: Will appear Marilyn Marylynd haunts my Yeah, why not?

593
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: Also they say the Westwood Memory Real Cemetery where she's

594
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: born or sorry, where she's Perry, where she's buried. People

595
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: see a pink colored mist.

596
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: That sounds more like Jane Mansfield.

597
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: Well, she liked pink too, I guess. And she turns

598
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: into a mist there. I don't know. I don't know

599
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: why that would happen, but whatever. They also see her

600
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: at the Knickerbacker in Hollywood, Knickerbocker Hotel. She hangs out

601
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: at the bar there, you know, the rooftop that's where

602
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: the seances.

603
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 3: Wini's wife Who's.

604
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: Wife used to do seances to contact him.

605
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 3: I know she has a name, and I hate saying

606
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 3: she's gonna haunt us, Harrietta. Was it really no, my

607
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 3: God to do what I fell for it? Yeah, Harrietta,

608
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 3: I know that their.

609
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: Secret Her name was Jeanie Genie.

610
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: Oh dear, No. You know there's a Kate Bush song

611
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 3: and it's called Houdini and it's all about trying. They said,

612
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: when I die, we will have a secret phrase.

613
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: Apparently he never did it.

614
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 3: And the phrase was Rosabell believe. I think it was

615
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 3: what Rosa Bell believe, or maybe it was just I'll

616
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: call you Rosa Bell. And anyway, it's in the Kate

617
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: Bush song Houdini, which is genius. The cover of the

618
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: album is her kissing a guy who's dressed like Houdini,

619
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 3: but you just see him from the back, and she's

620
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 3: got a little key on her tongue because he used

621
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: to kiss his wife before he did the escape routine,

622
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 3: and she would pass a key to him through a

623
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 3: kiss and then he'd be in there and take it

624
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: out of his mouth and unlock.

625
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: Oh so you're gonna ruin us.

626
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 3: Spoiler alert.

627
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: We just talked about the Masked Magician. Do you remember

628
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: that guy?

629
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: Uh? I know, the unknown comic.

630
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: No maskedician, look at me when you said that.

631
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: Not the unfunny comic. It's getting so listen.

632
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: We're not even done with Maryland's don't do It?

633
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 3: Shut Up? Can you tell him obsessed with her? Oh?

634
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? A shout out shout out to Luscio's mousacre love her? Okay,

635
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: so also Marilyn Monroe. They there's a mirror at the

636
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: El Capitan Theater, which is right next door to the

637
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: Hollywood Roosevelt. So this girl is just looking in mirrors

638
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: left and right, right next door. And in twenty twenty two,

639
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: you remember, there was that like kind of controversial Netflix

640
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: movie called Blonde. Oh god it was I didn't I

641
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: didn't watch it.

642
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: It was horrible.

643
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: But the actress Anna de Armas, she said that at

644
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: the Venice Film Festival premiere the movie. She said that

645
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: Maryland's ghost haunted the set. She said, quote, I think

646
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: she was. She was happy. She would also throw things

647
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 1: off the wall sometimes and get mad if she didn't

648
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: like something.

649
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: Okay, so she's literally everywhere.

650
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: She's everywhere.

651
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 3: I mean, she's getting around more than when she was

652
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: alive and she got around. That was slut shaming, and

653
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 3: I apologize.

654
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: May West, Helly May West rules.

655
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, She's everything.

656
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: I love May West, So May West. According to a

657
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: website called Bizarre Los Angeles, she haunts the Ravenswood apartments

658
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Do you know where that is? It's

659
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: like mid Cities, It's like I feel like that's like

660
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: Hancock Parky sort of area. She lived and died in

661
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: the upper floors in nineteen eighty and she even allegedly

662
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: told friends that as long as the building stands, she's

663
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: gonna be there. Okay, oh, as long as the boulden style.

664
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: I'm so good. Imprecious, you're bad. As long as the

665
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: building styles local.

666
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 3: As long as the building stands, honey, that was better.

667
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: That was like me doing Alaska doing. Let me just

668
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 3: say one thing. I love that she said, as long

669
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 3: as the building stands, because I mean, don't you know

670
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 3: how hauntings work. You know, the building doesn't need to

671
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 3: be there. They could, like, you know, tear it down

672
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 3: and put up in Arby's. And she's like, do you

673
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: really want to order that? Honey?

674
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: You want curl of Froz with that.

675
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 3: The seasoned?

676
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 1: Why did she talk like that? I'm happy to see people?

677
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 3: How many years later I know I'm.

678
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: Happy she did.

679
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

680
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: So here's an excerpt from her interview with an author

681
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: John Coebel for his book called People Will Talk. She says,

682
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes I just lie down in a semi

683
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: dark room and I see crowds, individuals coming in like

684
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: a montage. What do I sound like?

685
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: She says?

686
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: Now, I'm a very normal, healthy person. I don't imagine things.

687
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: So when I see things and hear voices. I know

688
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: there's something that exists around us.

689
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 3: This is the worst Snatch Game episode ever. No, I

690
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 3: love that she was kind of into the occult.

691
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: No, she was. She was very into psychics. So she says,

692
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: over the years, I developed my psychic powers. Everything was

693
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: a thought before it was created. This table, this vase,

694
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: they were thoughts before we made them. But I really

695
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: didn't get involved in ESP until I met Thomas Kelly

696
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: in nineteen forty one. He was a famous Quaker mystic.

697
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 3: And do you know that Lady Bunny's parents are Quakers?

698
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 3: No joke, I'm not even joking because you think I'm

699
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: going to make a joke like that's why she looks

700
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: like the Quaker oats guy out of drag or something.

701
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: I'm not even kidding. But let me just say one thing.

702
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: I actually got emotional when you read the part that

703
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 3: said everything was a thought. This table, it's such a

704
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: simple I'm not even kidding you. And how old I am,

705
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: and I've never really thought of something that simple.

706
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: Well, that's part of why I like ugly things so much.

707
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 3: Is she just winked at me.

708
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: Is because like things that other people you conventionally would

709
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: say are ugly. It's like that is someone's vision. It

710
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: was someone's vision, and that to me sometimes I look

711
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: at like an ugly piece of art or like I

712
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: don't know, some old antique and I'm like someone thought

713
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: that they that that was like beautiful they took the

714
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: time to make. And I do think about that kind

715
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: of stuff.

716
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 3: It's also subjective.

717
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean there's peoplelely and I don't think that it is.

718
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: I don't look at it that way at all.

719
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 3: I mean I used to joke, this is how old

720
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: the joke is. If if Janice Joplin was on and

721
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 3: thank god she's not a blonde, or she would be

722
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 3: the subject you know part of today's podcast.

723
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: Didn't you stay in the room?

724
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 3: I think it was the room. I know I stayed

725
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 3: there at the Highland Gardens, Yeah, that hotel. But here's

726
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: my point, Like if she was on American Idol, they

727
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 3: would be like, girl, run a comb through your hair,

728
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 3: you're a bit pitchy, dog, lose twenty pounds, do you

729
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like she's one of the most

730
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 3: amazing iconic voices, just like we were talking about with

731
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 3: may West, Like you know, anything that kind of strays

732
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 3: from who cares about a perfect singing voice? Who cares?

733
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 3: I mean, a beautiful voice is great, but give me

734
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 3: some emotion, give me Chrissy Hind. I listened to Chrissy

735
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: Hind of the Pretenders, and sometimes I'm like, I would

736
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: never have thought. And I'm a singer, I never would

737
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: have thought to sing it like that? And is that

738
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: actually the right note? She's kind of like right under it,

739
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: But it really pulls at your heart strings. I know

740
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: it's turning into like Hallmark, but yeah, no, yeah, I

741
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 3: agree with you. And people are starved for reality, real reality,

742
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: not like reality TV authenticity or originality. Yeah, and even flaws.

743
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: That's why have you ever done a show?

744
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: That's why I like you.

745
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: Thank you, And people you know come up after the

746
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 3: show and they're like, oh, my favorite part is when

747
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 3: you totally fucked up, and I'm like, really, thanks a lot.

748
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: But then I think about it and it's like we're

749
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 3: craving that we want something real, real, not ai heh.

750
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: So she goes on to say that the forces for

751
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 1: good and evil were coming in. I could hear psychic

752
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: voices and see people all the time, and they kept

753
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: me awake at night. If you told this to people

754
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: about hearing voices, They think you were mad or something.

755
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: Now I know I must have always had these voices

756
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 1: telling me things. You see, they helped me several times

757
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: when I was really in a problem and I didn't

758
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: know how to get out of it, Like the court

759
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: case I had. I was being sued for one hundred

760
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: thousand dollars and I knew I was innocent, but I

761
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: didn't know how to handle the case. I was lying

762
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: in my bed when suddenly this voice comes to me,

763
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: very beautiful, deep man's voice, speaking in an old English accent,

764
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: with the and dows. That was the way he was speaking.

765
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: And this was in nineteen forty eight, and I knew

766
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: I had heard that voice before, back in nineteen forty one.

767
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: I had always remembered it because it was very distinguishable.

768
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 3: Who was it?

769
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: I guess you're never gonna know.

770
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 3: Oh.

771
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: She went out to say that the spirit voice told

772
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: her what to say in court, helping her to win

773
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: the case.

774
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 3: Oh. Yeah.

775
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: After it was over, I wanted to know for myself

776
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 1: what kind of person that voice belonged to. I asked

777
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: the dictionary about it, and I opened it up when

778
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: it said clergy, So I know it was a man

779
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: from the clergy, you know, back in the eighteenth or

780
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: nineteenth century. I think she could have just filled in

781
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: the blanks. So I have this book. You know how

782
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: I collect these things.

783
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: I'm just so sorry. Think about how scary it would

784
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 3: be to be sued for one hundred thousand dollars back

785
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: in the forties.

786
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 1: That's a lot of money.

787
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 3: Five million dollars or something.

788
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: Oh that's not then, but that would be a lot

789
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: for you. Huh girl, I'm just kidding. Okay, So you

790
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: know how I collect these old books. Yes, this is

791
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: what I have called I Believe in Ghosts, And it's

792
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: a celebrity book. And it says, as told and recounted

793
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: by Danton Walker. What year is this? This is nineteen.

794
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: I believe it's the sixties. Nineteen fifty six.

795
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's forty years before the sixties.

796
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: Oh my, guys, five years after you were born. So

797
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: there is a chapter where she talks about her it's

798
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: called may West's Spirit Friends. Oh, she's filled with them.

799
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: So she was really into.

800
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: May West's spirit legal advisors.

801
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: Yes, there's also a story about Ida Lapino and burl

802
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: Ives Okay, and Guthrie mclin tick and nol Coward. I've

803
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: heard of that one.

804
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 3: You've heard of Noel Coward?

805
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: Yeah for cool?

806
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: That one cool?

807
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: But I don't know who Guthrie mcclinkle.

808
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 3: No, I don't know what it is.

809
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: Okay, should we do please?

810
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: I took an improv class, so just yes.

811
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: And I took an improv cluster in the pandemic with

812
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: a really better connection, so I can do like half

813
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: like I can.

814
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 3: You can only do yes.

815
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: No, I can ask for a suggestion from the audience.

816
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: Oh okay, and that's it. Well, here's the thing. Even

817
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 3: if it cuts out, it's always going to be a gynecologist.

818
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, because the audience thinks they're being funny.

819
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: Jackie. Yes, I got a haunted doll for you, like

820
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: physically now, Oh God, just act like you. Listen to

821
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: this fucking podcast. Every single week we feature a haunted

822
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: doll from eBay. It's time for the dolls are living? Okay,

823
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: So I go to eBay dot com. I type in

824
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: haunted doll. I search through hundreds of listings till I

825
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: find one that is just right, this one. I've never

826
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: found one more right for a guest ever. Jackie, you're

827
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: gonna think that I made this up. This ghost is

828
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: going for thirty four dollars and thirty cents or best offer.

829
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: The ghosts is side this doll. The doll's name is

830
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: Jackie jeeha show is Jackie?

831
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 3: You got it?

832
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: Raz I did not make this up, Jackie speechless.

833
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 3: Well, it kind of looks like me after a date.

834
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 3: The smeared lipstick. I don't have blue eyes, but I

835
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 3: am bald.

836
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: I just so you know, Jackie, that's not a mirror

837
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: that you're looking at. That's a screen. Uh oh uh oh,

838
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: the blond wigs coming off.

839
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 3: Wait wait, hold on, where's my camera? Ready? Yeah?

840
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what we're looking at here is a bald,

841
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: feminine doll that does not have any eyebrows, smeared lipstick,

842
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: blue eyes.

843
00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: I do wear that color as eyeshadow her eyeballs. Yeah,

844
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 3: but can we look at picture three. She's got a waste,

845
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 3: so that kind of shoots it down. She's heightweight to

846
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 3: proportion it.

847
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would never. You would never wear that outfit either.

848
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: That's she's very Victorian. Well she comes with a bio. Okay,

849
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: it says the person selling this wrote I received her

850
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 1: through a friend who collects vintage toys, someone who doesn't

851
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: usually deal with spirit vessels, and they felt uneasy with

852
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: her quote. She doesn't scare me, my friend admitted, But

853
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: I feel like she's sad, like she doesn't belong with me.

854
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Of all the pictures, that is the creepiest

855
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 3: just lighting.

856
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: Well, they did take a picture where they made the

857
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: lighting spooky, which is very important when you're trying to

858
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: sell these I think you need to make them look

859
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: a little scary, it says. The moment I held Jackie's vessel,

860
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: I understood her energy was dis subtle, but layered, carrying

861
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: the weight of something deeply personal. She wasn't restless, she

862
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: wasn't angry. She was just waiting for the right person,

863
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: for someone who could understand. Jackie was young when she passed,

864
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: like in her early twenties around nineteen eighty. She carries

865
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: the vibrant yet fragile energy of a girl just beginning

866
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: to understand herself. Through deep meditation. I've received flashes of

867
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: her past. I get the feeling she spent much of

868
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: her time on the outside, looking in, searching for acceptance

869
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: in a world that didn't always offer it. I sense

870
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: that she was part of the LGBTQ community, perhaps questioning,

871
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: perhaps certain, but never fully embraced. Whether she kept this

872
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 1: part of herself a secret or faced rejection for it.

873
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: The energy around her speaks of a quiet battle. She

874
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: doesn't seek. She doesn't even seem mad most of the time,

875
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: but there's a longing in her energy, a need to

876
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: be recognized, to be seen. So some of the things

877
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: she does unexplained. Music comes out of her, cold breezes,

878
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: object shifting, dream communication, electronics, acting up you know.

879
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, I like the lgbt Q plus pandering part. Yeah,

880
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 3: that's a lot.

881
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, she definitely is uh messed up. Well,

882
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: she's like in a dress and she's sort of just

883
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: based on her makeup and hair.

884
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 3: Can we she feels I imagine like if we bought her,

885
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 3: what we might hear? A disembodied voice? Can I do

886
00:52:52,960 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 3: an impersonation? Please? There's my vague there's mad ivy.

887
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: Oh that's how you think she would talk.

888
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's like somebody stole her wig right before

889
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 3: like a major event or function. She has never been

890
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 3: the same.

891
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: See, that's what's interesting about It's almost as if she

892
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: did have a wig, because you know how usually with

893
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: a doll. It comes out of your head.

894
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 3: There's no plug.

895
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: There are no plug.

896
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 3: She didn't go to turkey.

897
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 1: She didn't go to turkey.

898
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 3: That was the bird, not like some Middle Eastern I

899
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 3: just did my turkey.

900
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: I can't even do a fucking turkey.

901
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 3: God, what is going on with you?

902
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: I am not known for my impressions.

903
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: That's why you are obsessed with celebrity impersonators. You really

904
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 3: can't do it. Let's guess we're both vegans. We shouldn't

905
00:53:55,360 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 3: be mockery. That is so bad.

906
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: That is bad. What is wrong with that poor turkey?

907
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: That's all right, But I'm good. I have other talents, yes,

908
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 3: be jeweling boots and mm hmm.

909
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: Going to YouTube and finding ghost recordings.

910
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: It's time for EVP.

911
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: Or ev plase.

912
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 3: These actually creep me out, you know they do.

913
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: Fun fun. Well, these are two from a YouTube channel

914
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: called the Space Coast Paranormal Society.

915
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 3: Okay, really rolls off the tongue.

916
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,959
Speaker 1: I don't know where these locations are. Doesn't necessarily say,

917
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: but they are two evp's, and I want you to

918
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: guess what this ghost is saying.

919
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 3: I'm scared, Jackie.

920
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: Here's the first one.

921
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 3: Okay, do it again. Oh my gosh, it's very hard

922
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 3: to hear. Are you in the dark?

923
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 1: Are you in the dark in? That's not what they believe.

924
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: Did they think it was a your drama girl? Okay,

925
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: B you want this to work? C you don't have

926
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: to worry? Or D you said this wouldn't hurt.

927
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 3: It's either B or D because I thought it was

928
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 3: are you in the dark and work and hurt? Sound

929
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 3: more like that to me, So I really think that

930
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 3: they are usual sometimes more innocuous. You want this to work?

931
00:55:55,680 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 1: Well, they think it was C you don't have to worry? Again?

932
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, now I hear it, Green Needle. I think

933
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: it could be you don't have to work, like them

934
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: being like, you don't have to work? What are your parents?

935
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: Do?

936
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 1: Have you had a husband? Like that's what it sounds like. Listen,

937
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: you don't have to work. But they think it's you

938
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: don't have to work.

939
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 3: Maybe it's the ghost like what are you doing here

940
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 3: with this recording device? Don't don't you have to work?

941
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: I love ghosts, like throwing shade at ghosts. Hunters love that.

942
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 3: But do you know those things where you listen to

943
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 3: it and whatever you're reading, like Green needle. You've never

944
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 3: seen that one?

945
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: Oh, and it will say and those are so scary,

946
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: they're so weird.

947
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 3: It just goes to show you that reality, like we

948
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 3: really are in the matrix.

949
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 1: What you're talking about is like you see a video

950
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: that will pop up in your algorithm or whatever, and

951
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: it's like, whichever one you read, it will say out loud, that's.

952
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 3: What you will hear. Yes, yeah, yeah, there is.

953
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: I just remember green needle. Yeah, yeah, what is the other?

954
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 3: I don't even remember the others, but green needle is

955
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 3: such a specific substance. The substance green needle. Okay, let's

956
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 3: do this.

957
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: Here's another one. I don't know the location, but what

958
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: is it saying?

959
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 3: Terrified? Oh my god? Okay, give me the choices.

960
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: Did they think it was a let's not say we did, okay,

961
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: I know you do.

962
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 3: Well.

963
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: Did they think it was B stop I'm not here,

964
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: which is a funny thing.

965
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 3: That's a movie title, A twenty four honey?

966
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: Do they think it was C it's that time a

967
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: year or D. That's not my finger.

968
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 3: That's not my finger, that's what he said. That's not

969
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 3: my finger. This is.

970
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: They believe it's base stop, I'm not here.

971
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,479
Speaker 3: It literally sounds like that's not my finger.

972
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: Though listen, let's listen for stop I'm not here.

973
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 3: That sounds like there's a tail end like right now

974
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 3: or something stuff I'm not here right now.

975
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 2: Or.

976
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 3: There's a little trail even on stop that's not my

977
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 3: or that's not my finger? Can you you know what

978
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a little trail like there's another one

979
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 3: or two syllables after everything. We think it's.

980
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: I think it's that's not my finger. But uh, it's

981
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: hilarious that it said stop I'm not here, Like that's

982
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: such a funny thing for a ghost, Like you're trying

983
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: to contact a ghost and they're like, stop, I'm not here.

984
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm not home right now.

985
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 3: Oh it had an answering machine.

986
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny to me.

987
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 3: Stop I'm not here is a really good title because

988
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 3: it's just such a strange phrase. Stop I'm not here.

989
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I like it.

990
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: Well, we need to stop and you need to not

991
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: be here because now the podcast is over.

992
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 3: That's called a callback, Ladies and gentlemen, even though usually

993
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 3: there's more time in between.

994
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: It's a quick one, a quick yeah.

995
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well I have had a wonderful time Hey, I've had.

996
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: A great time too. It's always nice to see it.

997
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 3: It's always nice to see you.

998
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: So what is going on? Where are you at? What

999
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: do people need to know?

1000
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 3: Well, I you know, you know this personally, I've been

1001
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 3: taking a bit of a break and just kind of like,

1002
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 3: you know, when you've done drag for thirty six years

1003
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 3: and now it's like such a drag race world and

1004
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 3: now it's almost a post drag race world. I don't

1005
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 3: even think drag race has the power it used to.

1006
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 3: And there's just so many you know, former contestants and

1007
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 3: everybody's just vying for work and beat bop boop doodle dooce.

1008
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 3: So I've just kind of like pulled back a little

1009
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 3: bit and just haven't felt the need to work quite

1010
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 3: as much. I've been writing for a lot of different people,

1011
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 3: performers and you know otherwise. But now I'm kind of

1012
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 3: getting the itch again because you know how much we

1013
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 3: love drag even though I bitch and moan about it,

1014
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 3: and I.

1015
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: Know how much you have an itch, yeah, which you

1016
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: do need to take care of.

1017
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 3: That's not my finger, cool back, don't do it.

1018
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, So just kind of like to take a break.

1019
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 3: I'm just not feeling desperate. But then there is a

1020
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 3: point where you're like, really that wig there is I

1021
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 3: tried to have fun with you. There's a theme, and

1022
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 3: some people are just like they won't even play with

1023
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 3: the theme, or I think it's great. No, I just

1024
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 3: I but you know, when you're not working, even though

1025
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 3: I have been writing, and that's like, you know, I'm

1026
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 3: sitting in bed in my underwear with my dogs in

1027
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 3: the laptop, and then I just like, oh my god,

1028
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 3: I just made like you know, kitching without having to

1029
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 3: get all dulled up or leave town or whatever. But

1030
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 3: nothing takes the place of live performances. And you know,

1031
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 3: I'm used to like working a lot, and when you're

1032
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 3: not getting money.

1033
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: It's not good for a here like that mighty to

1034
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: be a capitalist, but like you need to work and

1035
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: receive something like it doesn't have to be money, but

1036
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: like some type of reward for if you have a

1037
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: passion you know to do it and.

1038
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 3: To well you're thinking a lot more like I don't

1039
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 3: know esoterically even then. I I was just meant, when

1040
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 3: the money's not coming in, it's scary how quickly it

1041
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 3: goes down because you're still having to pay all those bills,

1042
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 3: and this is Los Angeles, and you know it's got

1043
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 3: to pay the mortgage and the this and the that

1044
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 3: and the car lease, and so you don't even think

1045
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 3: about it when you're just working constantly. But Sherry Vine

1046
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 3: and I do the Golden Girls Brunch. It's the fourth

1047
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 3: Sunday of every month at Precinct and it is so fun.

1048
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 3: I'm not kidding you. People wear calf hands, they dress

1049
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 3: up like the characters. We have trivia. It's really super

1050
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 3: fun and it's just me and Sherry. You know, sometimes

1051
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 3: those drag brunches are like, you know, six girls, and

1052
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, God love them. They're doing death

1053
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 3: drops and flip flopping all over the place. But this

1054
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,919
Speaker 3: is all live singing, and you know, it's really really,

1055
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 3: really fun.

1056
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: You're not flip flopping, No, you're not wearing flip flops.

1057
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 3: Of course I'm wearing flip flops.

1058
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: Oh okay, my feet hurt. All right, yeah, plug one

1059
01:02:58,640 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: more thing and then we gotta go.

1060
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 3: If you need anyone to write anything for you, if

1061
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 3: you have a project that already exists and you just

1062
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 3: want it punched up with just a layer of jokes,

1063
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 3: a sprinkling of jokes and the Sprinkles cupcakes of jokes.

1064
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know the best in the biz. Well,

1065
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: who's written for within your Joan Rivers?

1066
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 3: Yes, within your budget. I wouldn't say I'm the best,

1067
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 3: but yeah, Joan Rivers and some other people, a lot

1068
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 3: of people. I've been fired by everyone in town. You know.

1069
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: That's one thing I forgot to mention that you love me? Yes,

1070
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: of course I love you. How many people say that

1071
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 1: you and I are very similar people?

1072
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you were telling you that the other night,

1073
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 3: And at first I was like.

1074
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: What, Yeah, but we we're not. We are very similar

1075
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 1: in terms of interests. We both saw the movie Carry

1076
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: at a young age and it formed us. We both

1077
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: like kookie glasses and over the top.

1078
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 3: We love artifice. We like camp. I always say one

1079
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 3: of my mantras is have the courage to be camp. Yeah,

1080
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 3: you know, like be on the red carpet dressed like

1081
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 3: a swan, have everybody wondering is she serious? Like have fun.

1082
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 3: Life is short. I'll never understand people who want less, less,

1083
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 3: culture less, you know, different, Like they get mad because

1084
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 3: somebody's speaking a different language. This is America. It's like, honey,

1085
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 3: I want to try every food as long as it's vegan.

1086
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 3: I want to, you know, listen to different music and

1087
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Speaker 3: like that's why my drag, you know, I don't have

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Speaker 3: that signature. Lady Bunny is always that same silhouette, always

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Speaker 3: a blonde. Same with Sherry Varlajeene Merman's always a redhead.

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Speaker 3: Coco Peru or as I call her, old one wig,

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Speaker 3: you know, an outfit from cheekos and that wig. But

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Speaker 3: I'm like, one day I'm doing the girls look, then

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Speaker 3: I'm doing like the sixties. Then I'm doing like Satanic,

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Speaker 3: you know, Housewife, seventies, you know, then eighties, you know,

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Speaker 3: like gem and the Holograms. Like I get bored. I

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Speaker 3: want everything. I want more, more, more, And I think

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Speaker 3: you're the same, even though you have a signature look,

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Speaker 3: and that is good for branding.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we like colors, oh we do. We like colors,

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Speaker 1: and we like flavor antiques. Oh, we love spooky things.

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Speaker 3: I'm a spooky antique. That's why you love me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we like little dogs. Oh, little dogs are

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Speaker 1: back for both of us.

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Speaker 3: That picture you sent me.

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Speaker 1: Of my little Chucky, Oh my god, we both have

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Speaker 1: little white dogs.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Well I'm sorry that this will be the last

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Speaker 1: time I see.

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Speaker 3: You because you're gonna hit it big.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm just I'm done. Oh it's been a jer

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Speaker 1: it's been exhausting, and I think it's time we end this.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay works for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So we'll figure out a way to salvage this.

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Speaker 3: This was damn good. All right, it was, wasn't it.

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Speaker 1: That's not my finger? Yeah, sure. I love Jackie Feet.

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Speaker 1: Isn't she something? She's something, that's for sure. Ah, thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening. I will talk to you very soon.

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Speaker 1: Tell everyone you know about this podcast please, and you know,

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Speaker 1: see me on tour and stuff like that. Find me

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, all of that. I love you all, both

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Speaker 1: living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to

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Speaker 1: haunt me, don't haunt me came back. This has been

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Speaker 1: an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal experience

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. I read stories out loud and sometimes

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Speaker 1: I'll even call you. So email me at ghosted by

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Speaker 1: Roz at gmail dot com. You can send a DM

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Speaker 1: or voice message to the show's instagram at ghosted by Roz.

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Speaker 1: Give us a follow while you're there, and follow me

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Speaker 1: Roz on Instagram at roz Hernandez and on TikTok and

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Speaker 1: Twitter at It's roz Hernandez. My senior producer is the

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Speaker 1: startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming Christina Chamberlain.

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Speaker 1: This episode was mixed and sound designed by the eerie

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Speaker 1: Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner.

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Speaker 1: My theme music is by the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon.

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Speaker 1: Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the Chilling Karen Kilgareth, the

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Speaker 1: Spooky Georgia hart Stark, and the frightening Danielle Kramer. Listen

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