1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. Last show of the 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: year where either Buck or I will be hanging out 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: with you live. 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: Bucks already out by the way. 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: I'll be back January second, the day after New Year's 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: and January third. 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: Buck, we'll be back. 9 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: The two of us will be back together on January sixth, 10 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: I think from Miami. I think I'll be down in 11 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: South Florida on that day as well, But that is 12 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: the next time we will be back together. But as 13 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: I said when I started off the show, I want 14 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: to thank all of you for making twenty twenty four 15 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: such a profoundly successful and fun year in general for 16 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: the country, but also specifically for this program. You guys 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: are the best of angel evangelists for the program out 18 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: there all over the country. You have been helping the 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: voice get out about this program. Word of mouth is 20 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: by far the most valuable of all advertising, and we 21 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: certainly did shows all over the country and we met 22 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: so many of you everywhere we went. We're going to 23 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: be in January up for the inauguration of Donald Trump. 24 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: I cannot wait the next four years. I believe are 25 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: going to be fantastic for this country. And I think 26 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,279 Speaker 1: that's true to a large extent because of you guys, 27 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: because so many of you in the battleground states got 28 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: out and voted. But this morning I was looking at 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: the data that continues to get analyzed. Wasn't just the 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: battleground states. Trump and the Republican Party gained votes in 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: all fifty states. The entire country moved red in Unison, 32 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: And I think that's to a large extent because of 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: you guys and the work that you did, and so 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: we are profoundly grateful for all of you. I had 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: some fun this morning, got up early, still a little 36 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: bit on different time. 37 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: Sleep because of the Israel trip. 38 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm when I talk about the Israel trip and why 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: I think it's so significant in the third hour of 40 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: this program. But I was born in April nineteen seventy nine, 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: so right at the tail end of the Carter administration 42 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: and right as we got ready for the nineteen eighty election. 43 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 1: I don't obviously remember anything from Jimmy. 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: Carter at all. 45 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: The earliest presidential memories I have are of Ronald Reagan. 46 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,559 Speaker 1: In fact, I remember getting to see Ronald Reagan myself 47 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: at Disney World in nineteen eighty four. They were I 48 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: believe at Epcot might have been the Magic Kingdom. My 49 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: parents would remember this better than me. I remember seeing 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan ride by, waving in a presidential limousine. I 51 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: remember that it was about one hundred and eighty degrees 52 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: that day in Orlando, and that they had an entire 53 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: parade procession waiting for the president to come through. And 54 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: I remember that there were a bunch of members of 55 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: that parade in the band. I remember there were a 56 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: lot of people fainting because it was so hot that day, 57 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: and they just had them all standing in basically formation, 58 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: waiting for Ronald Reagan to come by. And I remember 59 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: that he spoke that day and going and looking and 60 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: just how amazing and majestic of a day that was. 61 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: I was five years old. He is the first president 62 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: that I remember. I understand that a lot of you 63 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: are in disbelief because you can't believe that that's the 64 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: earliest president that I remember, because there's a lot of 65 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: you who are older than me listening to. 66 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: This program right now. 67 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: But given that Biden is finishing his term, thankfully, mercifully 68 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: very soon, by January twentieth, I was thinking, how would 69 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: I rank the presidents of my life? Basically starting with 70 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: Reagan in nineteen eighty and going up through Biden in 71 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: the present day, says forty four years, a little bit 72 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: over two generations of American presidents. How would I rank them? Now, 73 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: A lot of you out there in your heads, you're doing. 74 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: Your own ranking. 75 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: You're thinking through, Okay, who do I think was the 76 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: best president in that era? 77 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 2: Who was the worst? 78 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: And I put it up on social media and I'm 79 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: retweeting it right now, and you guys can all go 80 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: and interact. We'll also have the Clay and Buck Show 81 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: retweet it and you can give your versions of this 82 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: as well. But given that much of what historians do 83 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: is rank presidential administrations, I think now that the Biden 84 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: administration is ending, it's not crazy to try to assess 85 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: where Biden. 86 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: And his administration would rank. Now, you no, I'm a 87 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: history nerd. 88 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: I love American history in particular, and so I can 89 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: readily acknowledge that many of these presidential administrations will be 90 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: assessed and reassessed for the next one hundred and fifty 91 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: one hundred, two hundred years, and that the implications of 92 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 1: many president's decisions become clearer in the hindsight of history. 93 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: And for instance, I'll give you an example. 94 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: If George W. 95 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: Bush, it turns out that Iraq ends up a fount 96 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: of democracy in the Middle East, and three hundred years 97 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: from now, every Middle Eastern country is a democratic republic 98 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: and it is an incredibly safe, welcoming place, embracing of 99 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: human rights and religious freedom for men and women in 100 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: massive numbers. Then the war in Iraq might look different 101 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: in one hundred years than it does right now as 102 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: we sit and look at it twenty some odd years later. 103 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: That is the implication sometimes of the long march of 104 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: history don't always reveal themselves to us in the short term. 105 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: And this is why I always said the whole argument 106 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: that you're going to be on the wrong side of history. 107 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: You know how they used to wag their fingers and 108 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: lecture us if we voted for Donald Trump or we 109 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: were supportive of his policies, they would say, you're going 110 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: to be on the wrong side of history. And for 111 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: those of us that actually have studied history, we understand 112 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: that the concept of right and wrong of history in 113 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: our lifetimes is often the case that we don't even know. 114 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: It's actually the height oftentimes of variance to believe that 115 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: you know how people two hundred years are from now 116 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: are going to think about you. Now, sometimes we do 117 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: know in real time. Hey, right and wrong side of history. 118 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: I would argue with you in general that the right 119 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: side of history is very rarely trying to censor somebody else. 120 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: General lesson of life. If you study history, the group 121 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: that is trying to restrict what people say is very 122 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: rarely on the right side of history in the long term. 123 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: So censorship in general of political rivals, imprisonment of political 124 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: rivals generally not favorably received in the long march of history. 125 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: With that in mind, I am going to unveil for 126 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: you in reverse order, my rankings, now that the Biden 127 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: administration merciful term of office is coming to a close, 128 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: how I would assess every president from nineteen eighty to 129 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: the present day and why I would rank them thus. 130 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: And you can react and let me know if you agree. 131 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: And I assume that all of you are going to say, 132 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: you know what, Clay, you nailed it, you got everything perfect. 133 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: Of course that's not what's going to happen, because anytime 134 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: you rank anything, there is a massive disagreement and there 135 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: are arguments Gore, and you can already see that on 136 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: social media with my rankings. But I think a lot 137 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: of you are going to agree with this. I think 138 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is the single worst president in my life. 139 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: We can now basically assess the full sum total of 140 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: his presidency, and I would assess it as the worst 141 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: for these reasons. One, the border is an unmitigated disaster. 142 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: You may have heard us talking about the fact that 143 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: never before has there been more immigration occurring in the 144 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: United States, and never before has there been more illegal 145 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: immigration occurring in the United States. We have right now 146 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: more immigration then occurred during the Ellis Island era of America, 147 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: the Statue of Liberty, Ellis Island. All of the people 148 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: from Europe who flooded into this country, from Ireland, from Italy, 149 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: from basically most of Europe, all of those people actually 150 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: less even on a per capita basis, than what's going 151 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: on right now. So unmitigated disaster on the border. He 152 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: failed on inflation, which I would argue is probably economically, 153 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: if you distill it, the single most important thing that 154 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: a president could do. He hit a forty year high 155 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: on inflation. When he entered into office, inflation was under 156 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: two percent. It went to over nine percent. I would 157 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: submit to you that the single most impactful thing, from 158 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: a negative perspective, that Biden did for most of you 159 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: and for most of us, was the cost of goods 160 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: went out of control. He tried to mandate a COVID 161 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: shot that didn't actually work to stop the spread of 162 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: COVID or prevent the spread of COVID. He tried to 163 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: fire anyone that would not get it in one of 164 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: the most expansive overreaches in the United States history. The 165 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: Supreme Court shot it down, but he would have fired 166 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: and allowed many of you to get fired for not 167 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: getting the shot at your place of work. He completely 168 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: and totally failed to protect much of the nation. As 169 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: violent crime skyrocketed during his tenure. Less violent crime like 170 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: shoplifting continued to grow. All of those things, the disaster 171 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: of a withdrawal from Afghanistan, the inability to bring us 172 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: together as a country, the consistent attempt to say that 173 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was an existential threat to the country such 174 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: that he should be imprisoned for the rest of his life. 175 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: The idea that if. 176 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: The voting rights bills weren't past, we were all modern day. 177 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: Jefferson Davis's I think a lot of you are nodding along. 178 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: Biden is the worst president of my life. Everything he 179 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: touched got worse during his tenure. I cannot legitimately think 180 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: of anything he did that made American life better for white, Black, Asian, 181 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: Hispanic people across the nation. 182 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: He failed all of us. 183 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is in my life, and I bet in 184 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: your lives too, the single worst president that any of 185 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: us have ever seen. Who is the next worst president 186 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: in any of our lives? I will tell you in 187 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: a moment and preview. Some of you may be upset 188 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: about what I Am going to say, but guess what 189 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm right eight. 190 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: Hundred and two two eight A two. 191 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: If you want to weigh in and react any of 192 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: this as the Biden administration comes to a close, putting 193 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: in perspective, how does it rank right now in the 194 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: immediate moment of history? 195 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: How would we assess? 196 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: And I want to tell you know, they do a 197 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: really good job at Hillsdale College of Analyzing History. I 198 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: sat next to their president, doctor Larry arn He's got 199 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: a phenomenal historical background as do many of the professors 200 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: at Hillsdale, and right now for the Christmas season, they 201 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: are doing a really good analysis of literature's most famous miser, 202 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,599 Speaker 1: Ebenezer Scrooge, famous for the catchphrase ba Humbug from A 203 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens. 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In the words of Tiny Tim, a 216 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to us all, God bless us everyone. 217 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 3: Stories are freedom stories of America, inspirational stories that you 218 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 3: unite us all each day spend time with Clay and 219 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 3: find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 220 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: get your podcasts. 221 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Hope you 222 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: and your family safe as many of you are going 223 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: to begin traveling if you haven't already, friends and family 224 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: rolling in to stay with all of you. We thank you, 225 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: We want you to be safe and have incredible Christmas, 226 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: fabulous holiday season. I'm about to have a third kid 227 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: out of school. He should be arriving home at any moment, 228 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: ecstatic that he finished his exams, and it's gonna be 229 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: a lot of fun here. 230 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: So I can't wait to. 231 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: Have a festive holiday here at the Travis household. 232 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: And we appreciate all of you. 233 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: I'm running through my ranking of president since nineteen eighty 234 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: that is my life, basically seventh place, absolutely dead last 235 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: for the President's Joe Biden. 236 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: I think a lot of you out. 237 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: There nodding saying, yeah, you know, you got that right, Clay, 238 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: he is the worst president. Maybe some of you out 239 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: there have an opinion on somebody else being worse than him. 240 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter obviously not included in this list because he 241 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: was president from seventy six to eighty. 242 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: And some of you are nerd. Nerds. 243 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: That is even for me, who is somewhat of a 244 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: history nerd. Some of you are even nerdy. You or 245 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: and you're saying, actually, actually, the presidential terms, it isn't 246 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: actually twenty twenty to twenty twenty four for Joe Biden Clay, 247 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: it's actually twenty twenty one to twenty twenty five because 248 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: the president is inaugurated in January. Okay, nerds, I'm using 249 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: the election years, Okay, much like you wouldn't say the 250 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champ even though he is going to be 251 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: crowned in twenty twenty five. Same thing with the college 252 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: football champion. It's the twenty twenty four champion, right, even 253 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: though the crowning occurs in twenty twenty five. So that's 254 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: the way I'm rolling through it, all right. The next 255 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: worst president, we're climbing towards the top. It's Casey Kaseum 256 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: style here George W. Bush, And some of you are 257 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: going to be upset about this. George W. Bush was 258 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: an awful president. This is why when they tried to 259 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: trot out Liz Cheney to appeal to voters with Kamala Harris. 260 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: A lot of you were like, ah, you know, Dick 261 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: Cheney was awful too. That actually blew up in Kamala 262 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: Harris's face. I think because Republicans don't like the Cheney family. 263 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: By and large, Dick Cheney was the worst vice president 264 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: maybe in our nation's history. I think he led George W. 265 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: Bush astray to a large extent. 266 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: George W. 267 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: Bush entered into office with a huge budget surplus. We 268 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: were actually on track to pay off the entire national 269 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: debt now to be fair. Nine to eleven happens, and 270 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: then Bush just goes off the rails. We go to 271 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: war in Iraq for no reason. We said they had 272 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: weapons of mass destruction. 273 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: They did not. 274 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: We wasted trillions of dollars, thousands of lives, and we 275 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: got nothing for it. Meanwhile, the entire economy teeters and 276 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: collapses to a large extent because of the money that 277 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: we were wasting overseas. George W. Bush is, in my life, 278 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: the worst two term president, in my always humble opinion, 279 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: that we have had. 280 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: Now. 281 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: I said earlier, maybe all of the Middle East ends 282 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: up being a fount of democracy in the future, but 283 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: it was actually an insanely liberal idea from the neocons 284 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: that we should go spend trillions of dollars and overthrow 285 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: Saddam Hussein end up maybe with worst leaders in Iraq. 286 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: I think the two worst presidents of my life are 287 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: George W. 288 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 2: Bush and clearly Joe Biden. I'm gonna keep. 289 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: Breaking this down. You can react eight hundred and two 290 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: eight two two eight eight two as we continue to 291 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: go forward. But I want to tell you I just 292 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: mentioned the awfulness that was nine to eleven, and the 293 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: impact that that had on this country was staggering, but 294 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: we are still seeing some good come out of the response. 295 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: Thanks to Tunnel to Towers. They are in the middle 296 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: of their season of hope. It is their mission to 297 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: help as many families as possible. Like Sergeant Stephen Splan, 298 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: he suffered a heart attack while on fire duty. 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Make a difference this holiday 310 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: season at T two t dot org. Oh, welcome back 311 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Biden finally done with 312 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: his term, almost trying to rank the president in my 313 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: life now that we have another completed term, essentially thirty years, 314 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: the Biden term is down. This is forty four years 315 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: worth of rankings from nineteen eighty to the present day. 316 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: Two generations of presidents worst Joe Biden, next worst George W. 317 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: Bush. 318 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 1: Moving towards the positive. Then I've got Obama at five. 319 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: So I've got Obama five, George W. Bush six, and 320 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: Biden seven. You say, okay, how do you rank? 321 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 2: To me? 322 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: On some level, you look at what they did that 323 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: was the most signature of their achievements or maybe what's 324 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: the opposite of achievement of a disaster? What is the 325 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: thing that they did that is the most compelling? Obama 326 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: was just bloh to me. As you look at his 327 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: time now, particularly if you remember in eight Obama ran 328 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: on America's awesome, imagine that I could win as I'm 329 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: speaking on the Obama campaign as the single parent raised 330 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: son of mixed race to the highest office in the land. 331 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: By twenty twelve, it was you should vote for me 332 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: because I'm black, and that led to what I think 333 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: is the ultimate disaster of identity politics, which is the 334 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: toxic cancer that is destroying the country from the inside. 335 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: Obama made that possible. Instead, in my opinion of the 336 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: legacy of Obama being anybody can be president, white, Black, Asian, Hispanic, gay, straight, male, female. 337 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: If Obama can rise to the presidency, anybody can do it. 338 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: It's what we tell all our kids. Instead, it turned 339 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: into I'm black and you better vote for me, and 340 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: then they took the lesson Democrats did from that of 341 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: all that matters now is identity politics. So I've got 342 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: Obama at five. The reason I have him above George W. 343 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: Bush is I think Iraq is the single worst decision 344 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: that any politician has made in my life when it 345 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: comes to money, loss of life, and the actual impact 346 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: that we gained from it. So I've got Obama at 347 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: five in the four spot. As we're moving up I've 348 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: got George H. W. Bush sliding in at the George 349 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: Bush Senior. A lot of people forget that the Berlin 350 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: Wall actually came down with George Bush Senior in office. 351 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: That is iconically connected to Reagan because of the mister 352 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: Gorbachev tear down this wall. What I think is maybe 353 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: the greatest speech that any president has given in my 354 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: lifetime in terms of its moral authority, its ability to 355 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: stare into the face of evil and demand an action. 356 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: But it didn't actually occur when Reagan was in office. 357 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: It happened, I believe I'm correct, in this November of 358 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: eighty nine, after George Bush the VP, had ascended to office. 359 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: So I've got George And by the way, I think 360 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: Bush the first actually got really unlucky at the rise 361 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: of Ross Perrot because Clinton never won a majority. He 362 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: won both times to a large extent because of Ross 363 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: Perot's involvement in the race, and that hurt George Bush 364 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: Senior quite a lot. 365 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: So I've got George Bush Senior at four. 366 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: He's the highest person that other than Trump, who I 367 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: have at third. 368 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 2: Now some of you are gonna say Trump's the greatest 369 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: who's ever lived. He's the greatest president who's ever lived. 370 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: That's what Trump himself would say, but he only got 371 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: one term so far. I'm optimistic for a second term, 372 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: and I've actually got a provocative idea for you. It's 373 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: actually better that Trump didn't win in twenty twenty now 374 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: that he's won in twenty twenty four. And some of 375 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: you out there are like, what in the world do 376 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: you mean? Think about what would have happened in twenty twenty. 377 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: Trump would have been in a difficult spot with a 378 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: Democrat Congress that was hell bent on keeping him from 379 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: doing anything. He's actually far more powerful right now with 380 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: this term in office than he would have been if 381 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,239 Speaker 1: he had won reelection in twenty Now, the disaster that 382 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: was Biden would not have happened. I don't think we 383 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: would have had inflation. I think we would have left 384 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: Afghanistan stand with honor. I don't think that Ukraine would 385 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: have invaded Russia. I don't think that Hamas would have 386 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: invaded and attacked Israel on October seventh. There are many 387 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: awful things that happened on Biden's watch, but I actually 388 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: think that Trump is going to be capable of doing 389 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: more in twenty twenty four coming into office with this 390 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: election than he would if he would have won the reelection. 391 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: So I've got Trump at third, and then my top two, 392 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: I've got Bill Clinton at two overall, and I've got 393 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan at one overall. I think those are the 394 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: two best presidents of my life, one Republican, one Democrat. 395 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: And if you look, Reagan to me is clearly number one, 396 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: and I would imagine most of you out there listening 397 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: would agree. But the eighties and the nineties we mostly 398 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: got things right. The big lesson in legacy of Reagan 399 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: is that we defeated the Soviet Union, and many of 400 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: you out there with not great historical recollection, the entire 401 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: Communism and their system collapsed all throughout Eastern Europe. People 402 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: were free. Reagan saw that he could effectively bankrupt the 403 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: Communist Party because capitalism is a better system of government 404 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: and a democratic republic is a better system of government 405 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: than communism. And Reagan stared down the threat of the 406 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: Soviet Union, bankrupted them, won the Cold War. They collapsed. 407 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: So I think he's clearly the best president of my life. 408 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: But Clinton worked with Newt Gingrich after a disastrous first 409 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: couple of years where he tried to remake healthcare and 410 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: working with the Republican Congress. I think probably the single 411 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: best domestic accomplishment in my life is we had a 412 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: balanced budge and we're on track to pay off the 413 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: entirety of the national debt. Now that we're thirty six 414 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: trillion dollars in debt, think about how crazy that was 415 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: that as we entered the twenty first century, we were 416 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: actually poised to have no debt as a country at all. 417 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans came together, put together a budget, policy 418 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: and perspective, and we actually had peace by and large, 419 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: and we were paying off all our debt. So that 420 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: is my ranking. I'll take some of your calls to 421 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: react to it. Eight hundred two two eight A two 422 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: of those seven presidents that we have seen since nineteen 423 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: eighty and I understand some of you are gonay, oh, 424 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: we had an affair with an intern. Look, if you 425 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: can be a really good president, I don't really care 426 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: that much about your personal peccadillos. I understand people get 427 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: all fired up about it. I would rather the president 428 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: screw an in turn like Bill Clinton did, then screw 429 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: the entire country like Joe Biden did. 430 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: Some of you may disagree, but I. 431 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: Would just rather a guy have a really good job 432 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: as president and not worry about his personal life if 433 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: he's not out there. 434 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 2: As a mass murderer. 435 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: Some of you are gonna say, oh, so I've got 436 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: Reagan one, Clinton two, Trump one three, one, Term Bush 437 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: Senior four, Obama five, George W. Bush six, and Joe 438 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: Biden seven. 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Welcome back in Play Travis Buck Sexton Show 473 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: appreciate all of you hanging out with us eight hundred 474 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: and two two two eight A two. I'm actually surprised 475 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: going in and looking at all the emails that I'm getting 476 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: and also looking at the messages, most of you agree 477 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: that George W. Bush and Joe Biden are the two 478 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: worst presidents of the last forty four years, and I 479 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: do think that's one of the strengths of Trump. Do 480 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: you remember I remember it quite well, the summer of 481 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen Fox News debate that was hosted by Megan 482 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: Kelly if I remember correctly, the one that Trump really 483 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: kind of took over. Sorry, it might have been the 484 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: summer of twenty fifteen. I guess it was right because 485 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: it was leading into all the primary season. It was 486 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: after Trump had announced summer of twenty fifteen. I think 487 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: that was when Trump really kind of began to take 488 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: a big step. A lot of people remember it as 489 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: the debate, if I'm remembering correctly, where Trump had the 490 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: great line about Rosie O'Donnell, where Meghan Kelly really kind 491 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: of just came after everybody and she said, you've said 492 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: awful things about women on paraphrasing, and Trump said, actually, 493 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: I just said that about Rosie O'Donnell and brought down 494 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: the House. But it was actually his willingness to criticize 495 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: George W. Bush because people, forget everybody out there. Trump 496 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: was just a transactional guy. He wasn't a committed Democrat, 497 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: he wasn't a committed Republican. He was donating to both sides. 498 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: He was trying to get things done as business people do, 499 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: and frankly was often dismissive and probably unhappy with having 500 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: to deal with politicians because he knew that they're transactional 501 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: in nature and often not very honest, and he would 502 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: donate to Republicans and Democrats. I actually think it's what 503 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: makes him a good president now is that he understands 504 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: negotiation and transaction. But it's when he criticized George W. 505 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: Bush and the decision to go to war in Iraq, 506 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: and you could not do that at that time. Now, 507 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: there was an undercurrent of a lot of people out 508 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: there saying, yeah, that was a bad decision, We never 509 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: should have done it. There were a lot of you, 510 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: many of you listening right now, who were veterans of 511 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: those wars and you went over there and you saw 512 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: it for yourself, and you said, what in the world 513 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: are we doing? 514 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: Why were we here? 515 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: Because remember initially the goal was, Hey, we're going to 516 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: go get Osama bin Laden and tying in with Joe 517 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: Biden being basically wrong on everything in his entire career. 518 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: Remember that Biden opposed the Obama raid that killed Osama 519 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: bin Laden. Obama went around and got everybody's opinion, and 520 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: Biden said, no. 521 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: It's too risky. 522 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Biden has been wrong when it comes to 523 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: judgment on virtually every major decision he's ever made in 524 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: his entire life, and that certainly came to fruition when 525 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: he was president. But Trump's willingness to look at the 526 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: history and break with the idea of the neocons and 527 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: ending up in war all the time. And this is 528 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: why one of the I'm gonna talk about this in 529 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: the next hour, one of the real profound lessons of 530 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: the ridiculousness of saying that Trump was Hitler is Trump 531 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: is the most peaceful president that most of us have 532 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: had in our lives. He did everything he could to 533 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: try to avoid foreign entanglements and get us into wars, 534 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: and he had enough fear that he created among the 535 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: bad actors out there, whether it's Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Un, 536 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: the Iyatolin Iran, all of these different individuals who want 537 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: to do evil Chairman z Over in China. They feared him, 538 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: and you have to stand up to a bully. But 539 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: Trump was willing to do things that nobody else was 540 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: willing to do, and criticizing George W. Bush for going 541 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: into Iraq, for listening to Dick Cheney, and for being 542 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: wrong about one of the most consequential decisions of the 543 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: twenty first century. I don't think George W. Bush is 544 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: a bad guy. 545 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: By the way. 546 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: I've never met him, I don't have any relationship with him. 547 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: I've heard he's a good dude. I think he made 548 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: really bad choices partly because of Dick Cheney, which is 549 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: why it's so funny that the Democrat Party went from 550 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: Dick Cheney's a war criminal and the worst human being 551 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: on the planet to suddenly trying to convince people that 552 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: they should vote for Kamala Harris because his daughter, Dick 553 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: Cheney's daughter Liz, was actually trying to trying to endorse 554 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris and saying Trump's a unique threat to the nation. 555 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 2: And to the world. 556 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: The unique threat to the nation and the world was 557 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: Dick Cheney and all the neocons who led us to 558 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: war in Iraq. We pivoted from hey, we've got to 559 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: go take out the Taliban because they allowed al Qaeda 560 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: to rise to power and become powerful enough that they 561 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: could attack us on nine to eleven, We've got to 562 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: go remove that fertile breeding ground that they took advantage 563 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: of in Afghanistan, to hey, you know, by the way, 564 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: we got to take out Saddam Hussein. He has weapons 565 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: of mass destruction. I mean, a lot of people leave, 566 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: including a lot of Democrats, that there was some sort 567 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: of connection between Osama bin Laden in Iraq, and they 568 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: led and followed that war. In fact, Barack Obama not 569 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: being in favor of that war was one of the 570 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: things that helped him be the nominee and beat Hillary Clinton, 571 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: because Hillary Clinton ended up wrong on that situation. We'll 572 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: take some of your calls about all of this eight 573 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: hundred two two two eight a two When we come 574 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: back to the top of the next hour, I'm going 575 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: to talk about my trip to Israel, what I saw 576 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: in the Holy Land. As we get closer to Christmas 577 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: and why I think it is so incredibly consequential to 578 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: contemplate the connection between Israel and the United States and 579 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: what it means going forward, and I will break all 580 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 1: that down for you. We'll take some of your calls 581 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: as we roll into the third hour, the last hour 582 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: live before Christmas. Now, we got a lot of great 583 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: hosts next week. I know many of you are going 584 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: to be out there working, many are going to be 585 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: out there traveling, and we will allow all of. 586 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 2: You to weigh in. 587 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: We'll continue to have great content for you. I'll be back, 588 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: like I said on January second and third, and then Buck, 589 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: we'll be back on the sixth with me, and we'll 590 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: be back up and rolling. But in the meantime eight 591 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: hundred and two two eight eight two, if you want 592 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: to weigh in, but why does what's going on in 593 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: Israel matter so much to the United States? What did 594 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: I see that I believe is significant? And how does 595 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 1: it all tie in as we come closer and closer 596 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: to Christmas Uh and the celebration of Jesus' birth that 597 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: so many people around the world and certainly in the 598 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: United States, are going to be engaging in. We'll break 599 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: all that down for you. Appreciate all of you hanging 600 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: out with us. It's Clay and Buck Friday Edition. As 601 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: we roll into the holidays, last hour now