WEBVTT - Patriots Unfiltered 8/11: Direct from Patriots Joint Practice with the Colts 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.560 Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:06.320 suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:11.320 The Worlds of Pigeon podcast. 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:16.040 Live from Patriots Training Camp. 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:25.480 This is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota dot Com. Goody, 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:31.480 good morning, and welcome to Patriots Training Camp special Patriots 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:35.159 Unfiltered edition. We are high above the practice field here 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:39.280 at Jillette Stadium, getting ready for the joint practice with 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:43.600 the Indianapolis Colts. It's Paul Pirello, myself, Fred Kersh, my Dussau, 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:47.440 Evan Lazarre, and we're happy to have you with us 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:50.520 for this today. It's a beautiful day out, a little 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:53.240 bit of breeze, which is most welcome. It's been really 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:56.480 hot here in New England lately, but it's just a 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:58.160 glorious day for football. 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:00.440 Glorious day. I think everybody was looking forward to this. 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:02.960 Talking to the players over the last few practices, I 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:05.399 think they're already to hit somebody else, to see some 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:07.600 different schemes. And I don't know, have I think you 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:09.520 summed it up well last week where you're like it 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.479 feels like it's getting a little stale. Maybe they're kind 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.360 of getting used to seeing the same plays over and 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:13.920 over again. 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:15.640 These are always a highlight of. 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:17.440 The summer and it should be a really good one today. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:19.800 Yeah, and with the way that the NFL as a 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.279 whole treats preseason games now for the starting frontline players, 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:25.640 we just heard from Mike Rabel that Drake May is 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:27.360 probably not gonna play on Thursday night. 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.120 This is the preseason now. These are practices. 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:34.520 Are where that starters Drake May, aj Brown, Christian Gonzalez, 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.319 That's where they get their work in is during these 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:38.280 joint practices. 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:40.520 So this is the this is the litmus. 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:42.920 This is a barometer now against the team last year 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.280 that was on its way to the playoffs until Daniel 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:46.080 Jones got hurt. 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:47.120 It's a talented team. 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:49.440 They got some stars on that side as well, So 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:50.360 it's gonna be exciting. 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:50.720 Yeah. 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.880 You mentioned this is preseason now, and it's going to 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:57.680 be increasingly so because eventually the league's gonna go to 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.440 eighteen games. That means they're gonna knock down on one 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.960 of the preseason games down to so it'll be two. 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.840 So these joint practices are going to be more and 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.240 more important, even more than they are now. You know, 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:13.120 it'll be common to see teams with two joint practices 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:15.640 at minimum during training camp. 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:17.400 So this is it. 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:21.720 Like Vrabel said, you're gonna get about twenty four offensive snaps, 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:24.800 so they've already got it all mapped out, which he 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:25.320 says is. 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.560 More than a game. I thought that was a little 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:28.240 bit strange. 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.160 Well for the for the ones and then no for 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.680 the ones, Okay, gotcha, Okay, it would be a little 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:35.200 bit more. But yeah, I mean this is you know, 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.560 the trend. We've been watching plenty of joint practices here, 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:41.000 we were in Minnesota last year. You know, always really competitive. 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.240 I mean, I just I always enjoyed the final two minute. 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.280 I mean that's the you know, the last segment that 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.600 they do. The two teams, you know, go against each other, 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.200 try to put some points on the board. So you know, 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.320 there's of course Robert Spileine out here. I'm sure he's 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:55.120 fired up today to get some stick marks, stick his 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:56.680 helmet into some of these cults players. 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:00.000 Yeah, and you know, for anyone who's new to joint practice, 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:04.560 is it's not one hundred percent tackling. It's pretty much 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:09.519 i'd say maybe eighty percent speed. And you know, guys 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.880 aren't for the most part, going to the ground. 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:13.240 There's some thutting going on. 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:17.400 There's some you know, pushing and shoving and kind of 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:21.440 heavy hits, especially along the line of scrimmage, but guys 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:26.280 aren't tackling, and sometimes when one. 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.959 Guy goes a little bit harder than another, you know, 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:31.720 it's get a little heated. We've seen some fights here, 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:32.840 you know. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:37.200 I also think something I recognized last year was in Minnesota. 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:39.840 You felt like Minnesota's defense was all over Drake, which 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:41.520 you know they were, but I think there were also 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:44.440 plays that Drake said, people forget how mobile I am. 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:46.080 Not every single one of those was going to be 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:49.120 a sack. So I think it's important not to, you know, overreact. 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:53.000 Remember that it isn't live. The quarterback can sneak out 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:55.640 sometimes and it's in a real situation, so you know, 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:57.360 some of this stuff it's going to get blown up 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:59.000 and all. They had twelve sacks or you know, those 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:02.400 kind of things, even for the defense, But like you said, Fred, 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:04.720 it's not live, and you have to take everything a 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:05.800 little bit of a grain of salt. 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.240 Yeah, I hope they don't have twelve sacks. 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.200 That would probably be bad regardless yeah. 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:12.760 We uh. 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:16.120 In the last Patriots Unfiltered newsletter, we talked about the 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:21.160 matchups that we're looking forward to watching during this practice. 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.440 Let's go over let's go over that again. Evan. We'll 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:24.960 start with you. 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.920 Yeah, has anything changed since you wrote wrote you wrote 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:29.760 up in the newsletter? 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:31.960 No, I said late to a lot to you versus 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:32.800 Will Campbell. 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.880 I'll stick with that as their best pass rusher on 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:38.120 the edge and a player last year at over sixty pressures, 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.240 double digit sacks. Pretty good player. Not necessarily a household 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.160 name yet, but it was a first round pick a 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.800 couple of years ago. I would just say big picture 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.719 offense in general. I think the offense for the Patriots 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:50.800 has been okay in training camp, but I don't think 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:54.440 that they've consistently hit their ceiling yet. A lot of 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:58.240 new faces, AJ Brown, Romeo Dobbs catching passes from Drake 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.480 May for the first time. So you'd like to see 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:03.840 the offense in one of these three joint practices. You'd 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.120 like to see MVP Drake May. You know, you like 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:08.760 to see him go out there and really tear it 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.479 up into practice. So hopefully it's today, if not next 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.599 week against the Eagles, but I don't think we've necessarily 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:18.080 seen this offense consistently firing on all cylinders yet. 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:19.760 I think I missed the one day that that it 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:21.960 was probably closest to the second day past. 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.880 Yeah, I know, yeah, that that Friday was probably the 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.920 closest thing to it. He definitely was good that day, 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.600 And I'm not saying he hasn't been good, but I 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.799 just think that there's been some growing pains with those receivers, 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.800 in particular, breaking those guys in and Vera Tucker on 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.160 the offensive line on the left side, and different faces 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.440 in what they had last year in different spots. So 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:44.960 you would just like to see that start to come together. 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.920 Yeah, for me, I'm gonna go not surprisingly with the 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.080 edge players here for the Patriots. 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:52.839 You know, Draymont Jones I think has been fine. 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:54.200 You know, I think he's one of those guys that 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.520 will show up doing everything when when the season comes around. 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.159 But you know, how does Elijah Ponder look in some 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:02.839 of these drills? How does Gay Bachus look? Is he 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.560 you know, finally unleashed here as he's worked his way 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:07.960 back into you know, full play time, we've seen him 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.800 get rising reps. So those guys you know, just how 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:12.760 of they hold up. I mean, Indy's got a pretty 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.440 good offensive line. You know, you never know quite how 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.040 the matchups are going to work out. But you know, 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.600 Raymond's pretty good left tackle for them, So how to 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.440 out of those guys match up. It's still just such 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.640 a key position to me if they're going to be 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:26.840 able to generate consistent pressure off the edges with this group. 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:28.560 And you know we heard about Harold Landry two. He's 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:30.359 still working his way back. He's another part of this 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.960 group eventually, but these three guys behind him are going 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:34.960 to have to really hold the fort. I'd almost put 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:38.279 Brayden Swinson in that mix too, But those three guys 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:40.240 love to see something out of them today, winning their 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:41.000 matchups off the. 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:41.960 Edge, how about you, Paul? 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.880 Yeah, you know, unfortunately Mian already got blown up because 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:46.679 I don't think we're going to see Alec Pierce today. 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.679 He's not feeling with some injuries there in Indie. Because 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.480 I really have been impressed with the Patriots secondary during 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:57.200 these training camp practices, obviously led by Christian Gonzalez. I 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.240 wanted to see a different kind of challenge, you know, 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:04.000 a taller speed threat, true speed threat down the field. 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:05.080 Not going to see that, So. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:08.960 I guess I'll focus a little bit more just on 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.280 the Patriots offensive line in general and see how it 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.880 looks against another team. You know, I don't know who's 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.560 going to be upfront, you know, if top to bottom 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.880 for the Colts, but their NFL players, it's a good 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.000 team that was off to a really good start until 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:27.920 they had unfortunate injuries last year. It's tough because I 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.480 think their offense is so predicated on Jonathan Taylor and 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.120 I don't think that gets accentuated in a joint practice. 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.720 You know, there's no real simulation for that, and I 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:38.720 think so much of what they do depends on how 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.680 he goes. But I do think you can see how 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.000 the Patriots offensive line performance. We've seen some of these 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.440 joint practices before. Some of them haven't always gone well, 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.200 and you can see, even though they're not live, you 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.720 can tell. So I'm hoping that there's a better showing today. 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:53.640 Yeah, I'm sorry to cut you off. 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:57.040 I just i'd highlight Jared Wilson and the interior, you know, 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.560 going against Grover Stewart to Forrest Buckner, two of their 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.400 top line guys. That's something I think we got to 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.760 keep it one with Jared Wilson moving to center, handling 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.760 the big guys inside, that's something that you know, we 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:09.520 saw a little bit when he was playing left guard 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:11.600 last year of you know, some of the power guys 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:13.840 could kind of get into him and get him pushing back. 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:16.480 We think he's better at center. 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.640 That's what we've been told, that's what is his natural 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.040 position is is that going to translate to the field 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.320 and really, you know, solidify this. 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:24.840 Whole new look offensive line. 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.480 So that's that's another spot I'll be watching, especially you know, 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.160 Elijah vera tucker for great things about him. Let's see 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.559 how he does against some of these bigger body players inside. 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.080 Yeah, I and you know I wrote and you know 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.360 I'll stand by I'm looking at both sides of the line. 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:42.200 How how do the how does the offensive line handle 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.640 the Colts pressure when they send it? I think if 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:47.880 there are problems on the offensive line. 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.280 You'll see it today. Yeah, you'll see it today. 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:55.200 And and if there's not, you'll see a smooth, smooth 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:56.319 execution up front. 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:57.240 Uh. 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.360 And then of course can we get pressure on the Colts? 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.199 How is that working out? 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:07.640 And you know I'm like you guys, I'm excited to 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.080 see Gabe Achis, to see how he's doing out there. 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:15.240 No Christian Barmore today, as we as we found out 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.200 something happened last week with him and we haven't seen 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:19.640 him on the field since. 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:21.440 I don't know what it is. 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:24.080 I don't know if it's related, you know, to the 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.760 blood clot issue that he had before, or if it's 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:30.479 a you know, some type of injury that he sustained. 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.559 But there was a moment in practice last week where 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.040 he fired his helmet and walked off the field, so 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:37.480 he was upset about something. 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:39.840 Yeah, yeah, well it sounds like he's gonna be individual 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:41.719 drills at least, so that you know, positive sign it 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:43.559 is not something that's going to keep him out of 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:45.600 the mix. I mean, kind of the funny injury thing 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:47.880 to keep an eye on his his Julian Nashby was 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:49.000 out yesterday suddenly. 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.200 Never really seen that happen before the ankle. 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:53.680 Injury brought back Nico Lalos. 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:55.440 You know you have a that's. 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.840 Why you got those long snappers on on speed dial. 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:01.640 But yeah, just cantinuing to watch all those guys today. 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:03.719 It should be you know, just going back to sorry, Paul, 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:05.839 real quick. With the Alec Pierce thing, I think that's 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:07.160 a big thing for me is like A J. Brown 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:10.120 hasn't really been deep on Christian Gonzales and even in 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:11.720 the micd up you heard him and Drake kind of 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:12.480 talking about it. 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:14.120 That's Alec Pierce's game. 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:16.080 That would have been a really interesting matchup to watch 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.360 if if Gonzalez was able to, you know, keep the 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:20.600 clamps on him over the top, that would really put 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:21.080 a hamper in. 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.559 So who is the Cold's best cornerback right now? 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.440 Well, of course Various war is a good player and 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.040 he's one hundred percent, so you know that'll be a 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.360 good I'm assuming they'll put him on a J. 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.600 Brown, but you know we'll see that in Yes, he 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:36.680 expected to practice. 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:37.720 Yeah yeah, yeah. 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.559 I mean, look, you go up and down to Colts roster. 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.640 They they've got some star players, you know, DeForest Buckner, 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:47.840 Jonathan Taylor, Tyler Warren at tight end obviously saw us 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:51.680 as a star player. So they they've got some household 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:53.280 names on both sides of the ball. 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.160 Indie Nopp, I mean, we it's easy to forget because 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.520 the Colts kind of fell off after Daniel Jones got 0:10:58.559 --> 0:10:59.080 hurt and all. 0:10:59.120 --> 0:10:59.880 That eating too. 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.920 Yeah, they were the number one seed in the AFC 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:03.480 for a while. 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:05.600 And I don't think that was a fluke. 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.160 I Like you said, I think they've got some real 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:12.000 good talent on this team. Like Paul said, a lot 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.719 of it is run based. Jonathan Taylor is probably their 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:16.559 most valuable player on offense. 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:21.520 But you know, Daniel Jones is okay, he can Well, we'll. 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:21.959 See about that. 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:23.600 I mean, I think that if we're gonna say, is 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.000 it wasn't a fluke, it's gonna be was Daniel Jones's 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.560 ten game sample size a fluke or not. But Shane Stike, 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.200 in their head coach, is one of the best play 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:35.520 callers in football, does a really good job, really quarterback friendly. 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.400 They run a similar system to what the Eagles do. 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.600 So there's gonna be a lot of RPOs. There's gonna 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:44.400 be a lot of quarterback movement in the backfield, moving pockets, 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.439 things like that. And they did that a lot with 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.040 Daniel Jones last year off that run game, and it 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:51.720 really kind of simplifies it for the quarterback. You know, 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:53.760 it's a lot of one red throws, a lot of 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.120 half field reads on the boots you know, so there's 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.920 not as much drop back progression passing on. Daniel Jones 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.959 has played as maybe there is another offenses and he 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:04.800 excelled in it. You know, he was able to use 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.440 his athleticism, his arm, you know, and really excel in it. 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.520 So as you can see, the Colts will be in white, 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:15.880 the Patriots will be in blue today. So I know 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:20.040 that when the Patriots are among themselves, it's white blue offense, 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:23.240 white defense blue. But here you've got all the Colts 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.360 in white, all the Patriots in blue. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:25.720 Yeah. 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.200 The you know, going back to last year's joint practices, 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:29.960 one of the themes that we saw a lot with 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.480 this defense that we thought they had trouble with were 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.360 screen passes and tight ends, and you know, I think 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.520 those are two things that the Colts do very well, 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.720 certainly with Tyler Warren. That's that's a big piece I'm 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.400 going to keep an eye on today of you know, 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:46.480 I almost thought last year that it's maybe a weakness 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.040 in this defense where they're so aggressive that at times, 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.800 you know, they will get their aggressiveness used against them 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.920 when with screen passes and those kind of things. You know, 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:57.960 Brabol kind of says, you just got to put your 0:12:57.960 --> 0:12:59.800 foot in the dirt and go get the ball as 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.000 soon as you recognize it. But those are two spots, 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.800 especially going back to the Minnesota practices last year that 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:06.920 you know, and I think even carried over av into 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:08.200 the regular season a little bit. 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:09.079 With the tight end stuff. 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.079 The tight ends is definitely true. 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.560 You know, I don't know how much running back screen 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.720 they'll see from the Colts or like a perimeter bubble 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:20.000 screen type of team. But in terms of the tight end, 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.040 obviously there's Warren's one of the best, if not the best, 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.720 in the NFL soon sooner rather than later. So he's 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.880 a problem. And how are they going to cover tight ends? 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.480 And it's not exactly as cut and dry as like 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.000 a Belichick defense or you knew you had one guy 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:36.600 like a chunk that was going to be on the 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.280 tight end all the time. This defense kind of does 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.520 it more by committee. You know, sometimes even the linebackers 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.160 get caught in coverage on tight ends. So those those 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.880 are things that they're gonna see. They're gonna see, you know, 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:50.719 a J. Barner out of the gate. They're gonna see 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.920 Dalton Kincaid. They're gonna see tight ends that can make 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:55.920 plays in the passing game, just like Tyler Warren. 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.480 So as far as our coverage today, we're allowed to 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:04.120 be live through five, which from what I understand, will 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.960 be a team drill, So you'll see a little Patriots 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:11.120 versus Colts in that period and then we will shut off, 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:14.559 but the rest of the practice will be covered afterwards. 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:18.640 We'll do the camp cast afterwards, so you'll get everybody's 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:22.120 opinions on what happened after period five on that on 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.480 Patriots dot Com and Patriots Social. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:27.560 So it's a big day here. 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:31.320 We're two days away from the first preseason game on Thursday. 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:36.480 It's hard to believe, but here we are. Summer is 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:37.440 officially over. 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.520 Yeah, we're in the preseason. But the joint practice preseason 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:41.880 part those first couple weeks. 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:42.280 Of training camp. 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.360 I feel like those you know, they're fun and it's 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.440 exciting to get back out here and watch a little football, 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.080 but you quickly turn the page to wanting to see, 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.840 you know, these joint practices, which to me is the 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:54.640 highlight of the summer, getting to watch these control atmospheres, 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.240 the good against good. You know, I know it'll be 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:58.520 a little bit of a slog when we get into 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:00.200 the fourth quarter on Thursday night. 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:01.360 With some of the backups. 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.240 But this here, today, there's not a moment that that's boring, 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:06.240 and you know, really looks like there's a you know, 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.640 good crowd already turning in away. 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:15.000 Drake May May out in the field, and as Rabel 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:19.040 revealed in his press conference, he he most likely will 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:22.400 not play in the preseason game, so this is an 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.280 important practice for him in the offense. 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:24.760 It is. 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:26.680 Yeah, I mean, I like what Evan said, you know, 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.440 be nice to kind of I mean that's what I 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:31.360 came out of when I missed that practice. It was like, wow, 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.200 it feels like today Drake May reminded everybody that he 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.760 was an MVP runner up last year, and you know, hey, 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:37.920 look this is a joint practice. 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:39.520 This isn't the super Bowl or anything like that. 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.720 But it'd be nice to see him have a good day, 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:43.440 have a kind of day that you know they can 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.000 build off of. They can build some confidence, especially with 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.000 Romeo Dobbs, who you know has really been coming on 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.800 the last couple of practices. Can they keep that momentum 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.360 going here, you know against another team to good to see? 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:56.280 Yeah, if you want to write in you can do that. 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.240 Podcast at Patriots dot com is the way to email 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.200 us during the show. We'll get to those in a 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:05.760 little bit, but we are sponsored by Toyota dot com. 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.640 Up your game by going to Toyota dot com to 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:12.040 see the best selection of hybrid all wheel drive in 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.840 four wheel drive vehicles of any brand. Toyota is the 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.400 official vehicle of the New England Patriots. 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:23.680 Toyota. Let's go to joint practice. We're here, We're here, 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:24.320 We're here. 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:29.760 Yeah, we've got here in our Toyotas. So all right, 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.560 see a little uh backup quarterback action. 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.240 Tommy Tommy cutlet's Tommy too. 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:38.200 Has been good, Yeah, he's been good. 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:40.280 I mean just you know, universal kind of talking to 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.360 anybody down there that you know, all the beat writers, 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.960 everybody that's been covering this practice has you know, been 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.640 pretty impressed with the job that Tommy DeVito's done here 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.120 in his second year with the team, which I mean 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:52.520 it was I still remember so crystal clear last year 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:54.680 in that final preseason game against the Giants and being like, 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.400 she's Tommy DeVito's carving us up a little bit here, 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.400 and they went out and grabbed him and then season 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:01.600 made him, made him the backup. 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:04.040 So yeah, he's made the most of this opportunity for him. 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:07.359 He's got a live arm. Evan said, he can drive 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:08.640 the ball. He can drive it. 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.720 Yeah, I think, you know, I I think he's done 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:13.480 a pretty good job, even going all the way back 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.360 to the spring, just some of the throws that he's 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.400 made or right up there with some of the better 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:18.040 throws we've. 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:18.760 Seen in practice. 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:20.760 But I wonder too, you know, I was mentioning the 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:24.600