Speaker 1: Hey, that folks did. It's Sunday, April twenty six, and
Speaker 1: we are waking up once again to another incident, seeing
Speaker 1: people scramble after shots fired, and this time, once again
Speaker 1: it was near President Trump. Welcome to this episode of
Speaker 1: Amy and TJ. Let's start with that White House Correspondence
Speaker 1: dinner the President. Everyone is safe, but the White House
Speaker 1: Correspondents dinner interrupted, robes stopped because the President had to
Speaker 1: be rushed off stage because of incidents and shots being
Speaker 1: fired in the building.
Speaker 2: This was a surreal situation.
Speaker 3: In fact, we had already planned We're like, you know
Speaker 3: what you said, something usually comes out of the White
Speaker 3: House Correspondence Center every year. That will be our first.
Speaker 2: Episode of the morning on Sunday. We had no idea.
Speaker 3: We thought maybe the President would have said something outrageous,
Speaker 3: of course, for the comedian would have roasted him in
Speaker 3: a way that would have been worth mentioning these types
Speaker 3: of things. No, we were not expecting that an armed
Speaker 3: gunman would try to rush a security point to get
Speaker 3: into the ballroom to wreak havoc with He had two guns,
Speaker 3: a couple of knives, and it certainly seemed like an
Speaker 3: intent to do massive harm.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you all know this event. It's an annual event.
Speaker 1: It's a big event. They call it the Nerd prom
Speaker 1: there in DC. But yes, all the journalist from all
Speaker 1: over the country, but it's mainly a Washington, DC event.
Speaker 1: It's a prom. It's for all the people who cover
Speaker 1: the White House to get together this big event the president.
Speaker 1: This is his first one right that he has attended
Speaker 1: as president. He skipped them all during his first term,
Speaker 1: and Rolvey decides to go to this one. We know
Speaker 1: about the relationship between the president and the press, but
Speaker 1: this was going to be robed. Actually, all eyes on
Speaker 1: this moment and an opportunity maybe for everybody to get
Speaker 1: in the room, maybe have some fun, poke fun at
Speaker 1: each other instead of being combative. So all eyes are
Speaker 1: on it for a lot of reasons and maybe some
Speaker 1: positive ones.
Speaker 2: Even Yeah, I think we were hopeful.
Speaker 3: Look, you and I have both did this event in
Speaker 3: years past, plenty of times and seeing presidents, and that's
Speaker 3: like the highlight to see the sitting president. Basically, everyone
Speaker 3: puts down their arms, so to speak. Where you know
Speaker 3: it's an adversarial role oftentimes the White House correspondence and
Speaker 3: the White House itself and So this is a night
Speaker 3: where everyone can laugh together, raise a glass together, share
Speaker 3: a meal together, and have a few laughs at each
Speaker 3: other's expense. Everyone basically puts away their egos and laughs
Speaker 3: a little at themselves. So this is a fun evening
Speaker 3: that can be really communal and healing. Honestly, after a
Speaker 3: lot of back and forth, and so the fact that
Speaker 3: he had never attended one was a big deal, was
Speaker 3: a rub, so to speak. And so this this was
Speaker 3: going to be an exceptional year that President Trump was
Speaker 3: finally a sitting president going to attend.
Speaker 1: So with that, the event was just getting going. It
Speaker 1: was around eight thirty. You still had people actually trickling
Speaker 1: into this ballroom, huge ballroom, and some of the most recognizable,
Speaker 1: some of the most not just in journalism, but in business.
Speaker 1: You had a very important room. And you got just
Speaker 1: about the whole damn cabinet in that room as well,
Speaker 1: members of Congress in that room as well. So it's
Speaker 1: an important room. I'm going to let you hear. Now,
Speaker 1: what you're going to hear is the moment that shots
Speaker 1: rang out. Now what you're going to hear is video
Speaker 1: that was taken when people were still on the red
Speaker 1: carpet so this is outside the ballroom. Most people are
Speaker 1: already in, but this is when it's soon. As we
Speaker 1: start this clip here, you'll hear it at the very top,
Speaker 1: the shots ring out, and then you'll hear some chaos.
Speaker 1: But just to give you an idea of what happened
Speaker 1: last night, the second doc, it's something there at the
Speaker 1: end to hear robes the chaos. You hear a member
Speaker 1: of law enforcement and the video you could see him
Speaker 1: with the gun out. He's screaming, where is it coming from?
Speaker 1: That's the chaos, where is it coming from? They actually
Speaker 1: did not know in ropes. It wasn't like a stationary
Speaker 1: gunman or assailant. He was on the move.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I went back and rewatched it, and you'll see
Speaker 3: it on TV if you turn on the news or
Speaker 3: if you flip up your computer. But it really is
Speaker 3: intense and remarkable and fast. This guy, and will tell
Speaker 3: you who he is, who the shooter is, came out
Speaker 3: of nowhere seemingly and was running at full speed as
Speaker 3: fast as he could humanly run past this checkpoint where
Speaker 3: they were kind of chilling because most of the people
Speaker 3: had already gone through the president and his cabinet first
Speaker 3: lady were all sitting up on the dais up on
Speaker 3: the stage and just enjoying the just some small talk
Speaker 3: before the event got started. So yeah, things were winding
Speaker 3: down in terms of the checkpoint and the security area,
Speaker 3: and he just comes tearing through so fast. You can
Speaker 3: see the Secret Service ation's just kind of chillin all
Speaker 3: of a sudden boom and like turns around and has
Speaker 3: to try to get down on his knees to find
Speaker 3: him to shoot at him.
Speaker 1: Don't know how the guy did it, but by the
Speaker 1: time he got to the checkpoint, he was in full sprint.
Speaker 1: He had while he had gotten a running start from
Speaker 1: somewhere down the hall around the corner, but he was
Speaker 1: in full sprint and they were in robes. What I
Speaker 1: saw from the video, they didn't most of them give
Speaker 1: full chase after him. They pulled guns.
Speaker 2: They pulled guns, and.
Speaker 1: There was no question that that person meant to do
Speaker 1: somebody harm by the way they ran through there. Now
Speaker 1: we did call him a shooter. He has been called
Speaker 1: a shooter, but not quite sure what shots he got off,
Speaker 1: because we do understand that one member of law enforcement
Speaker 1: was hit by a bullet. But the toll we're told
Speaker 1: the vest stop that bullet. That officer is going to
Speaker 1: be okay, it's actually already out of the hospital been
Speaker 1: checked out. The potential shooter that we're gonna id here,
Speaker 1: at least that's been given us Robes did not sustain
Speaker 1: a shooting injury, but was taken down. We do know
Speaker 1: shots were fired, but those shots we heard there apparently
Speaker 1: were as law enforcement shooting him.
Speaker 2: And you can see that in the video.
Speaker 3: You can see the officer who has no chance of
Speaker 3: catching him when he flies by him, goes down on
Speaker 3: one knee and starts to pulls out his weapon and
Speaker 3: is aiming and apparently shooting.
Speaker 1: What a scene last night, obviously, Robes, this brings up
Speaker 1: alarm because the president has had at least two other
Speaker 1: bona fide assassination attempts Butler and then down at the
Speaker 1: golf course in Florida. Correct, we do not know, Robes.
Speaker 1: We have to mention, as we id the suspect, we
Speaker 1: don't have a motive and we don't know his target.
Speaker 1: At least law enforcement hasn't explained that to him.
Speaker 3: Yes, there are a few outlets that are reporting that
Speaker 3: he just said in some way, I don't know how
Speaker 3: and to whom that he was targeting administration officials.
Speaker 2: That was what has been floated.
Speaker 3: So they're not even sure if President Trump was the
Speaker 3: target at all, if in fact he was, but certainly
Speaker 3: he wanted to.
Speaker 1: Do harm, just don't know how much and to whom.
Speaker 1: But as far as we understand as well, he did
Speaker 1: not get into should make this clear, did not get
Speaker 1: into the ballroom, did not get into where all the
Speaker 1: journalists and important folks and the president was, did not
Speaker 1: get into it. Not actually sure how close he even
Speaker 1: came to it. But still that doesn't take away from
Speaker 1: the scene we saw last night. To set it up,
Speaker 1: this is around eight thirty in robes. If you're looking
Speaker 1: up at the dais, you're looking around the room. Shots
Speaker 1: were heard, but it was so faint and in the distance,
Speaker 1: at least for the people who were in the ballroom
Speaker 1: to where robes. The ballroom itself wasn't necessarily a chaotic
Speaker 1: scene that they felt imminent danger and started rushing towards
Speaker 1: the exits. The scene in the ballroom was a little.
Speaker 3: Confusing, Yeah, I think didn't Trump say that he thought
Speaker 3: that maybe some trays had dropped, so it was you
Speaker 3: heard these loud noises you heard some chaos, but I
Speaker 3: don't think it didn't appear that anyone felt like they
Speaker 3: were in imminent danger. No one reacted that way, including
Speaker 3: the folks on the stage.
Speaker 1: And we should say they got folks started to understand
Speaker 1: they need to get down. They started getting under tables,
Speaker 1: but there wasn't a chaotic rush out. Now, different scene
Speaker 1: on stage that you mentioned, their robes where the vice president,
Speaker 1: the president was the first lady in that that scene
Speaker 1: was chaotic and confusing in some ways, robes a little
Speaker 1: more of a slow burn that you would anticipate given
Speaker 1: what was happening.
Speaker 3: Yes, so you've got secret Service rushing the stage to
Speaker 3: get President Trump and the first Lady and just all
Speaker 3: the administration officials but mostly Trump off the stage.
Speaker 2: And yes, they kind.
Speaker 3: Of pulled him down and it almost looked like he
Speaker 3: stumbled and fell because in the chaos, and they had
Speaker 3: to go down and kind of get him up to
Speaker 3: get him off the stage.
Speaker 2: But it took longer than you would think it did.
Speaker 1: Robes even and we're seeing it being replayed here, but
Speaker 1: they got jd vance. They snatched his butt off the
Speaker 1: stage and he ran right off pretty quickly. But robes
Speaker 1: even as it was happening. I don't know. I guess
Speaker 1: maybe that's why folks didn't feel the same chaos, because
Speaker 1: it didn't seem like that much of an imminent emergency.
Speaker 1: On the stage. I even saw a couple of law
Speaker 1: enforcement officers walking up to the stage. Kind of it
Speaker 1: wasn't a full It didn't feel like that.
Speaker 3: My thought is that this was after they already had
Speaker 3: the suspect on the ground arrested and they knew he
Speaker 3: wasn't Now, if he had run off and they couldn't
Speaker 3: find him, oh, it would have been a much different season.
Speaker 3: When they came into that ballroom, it would have been
Speaker 3: like everybody down. They would have pulled the president. Now,
Speaker 3: look when you see Secret Service and armed members of
Speaker 3: Trump's security team pointing rifles and flashlights into the crowd,
Speaker 3: that's a little scary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at it. See this is a even that
Speaker 1: right there, Robes is a different scene from Butler. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they surround him. You don't see the presidents facing it.
Speaker 1: No you don't on this one. No, No, they got him covered.
Speaker 1: There are at least three fully armed, full tactical geared
Speaker 1: officers with automatic rifles standing at the already looking out
Speaker 1: at the crowd waiting. It's just chaos. You see people
Speaker 1: running and ropes. Right afterwards, it should be noted the
Speaker 1: president was going to be during a press conference. All
Speaker 1: these reporters need to get on TV, all in tuxedos
Speaker 1: and gowns.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was quite the scene. And then yes,
Speaker 2: even seeing the.
Speaker 3: Folks, I think the biggest chaos not I think, I
Speaker 3: know the biggest chaos was the folks who had not
Speaker 3: fully cleared the red carpet yet in the area closer
Speaker 3: to where the suspect was apprehended. That area got pretty chaotic.
Speaker 3: Folks were running out and I understand, like you, just
Speaker 3: this is not what anyone is expecting when they're going
Speaker 3: to an event like this, And it takes a second,
Speaker 3: I think, for folks to recognize what's happening, that there's
Speaker 3: something potentially life threatening happening. But to start seeing people running,
Speaker 3: that's a scary deal, especially when you're somewhere near the
Speaker 3: president and you've got basically every important cabinet member there
Speaker 3: and pretty much every major journalist who covers the White
Speaker 3: House there in that room.
Speaker 1: Oh, this chaos again. They just didn't know. This is
Speaker 1: a big we should mention this is the why Washington Hilton. Yes,
Speaker 1: that one, this right outside was where President Reagan was
Speaker 1: shot back in nineteen eighty one. This is that building.
Speaker 1: It is an old building, and frankly, robe that can
Speaker 1: be a little run down. As fancy as this event is,
Speaker 1: it's an old.
Speaker 3: It's a little shooting when you go and you attended, especially.
Speaker 3: I remember when I walked in or when I went
Speaker 3: to my first event. I was in my twenties and
Speaker 3: I was so excited. But I remember thinking, oh my goodness,
Speaker 3: this is where Ronald Reagan was shot. I remember where
Speaker 3: I was when that happened. I was in second grade.
Speaker 3: The history of the building, but I don't think anyone imagines,
Speaker 3: even in the times we're living in, that it could
Speaker 3: be the scene of another shooting.
Speaker 2: That just was. I don't know, it was never ever ever.
Speaker 3: I guess you kind of think because it's the president,
Speaker 3: you feel safer in a way. I know that might
Speaker 3: sound silly because he's a target, but you also know,
Speaker 3: especially after the previous assassination attempts, you would think, and
Speaker 3: we've joked before, well this is the safest room in
Speaker 3: America right now, wherever the president is that's where you've
Speaker 3: got the most security.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Don't think a lot of people were feeling in any
Speaker 3: way vulnerable, No, not at all.
Speaker 1: That should be the safest room in America, the room
Speaker 1: that the president is in, but it's also maybe the
Speaker 1: most targeted. Maybe it's the one that does attract crazy people.
Speaker 1: This and we don't know anything about the suspect right now,
Speaker 1: Robes other than where he's from, where he went to school,
Speaker 1: what degree has his name and his age? After that,
Speaker 1: we don't know a whole lot, but there will be more.
Speaker 2: That's right. He is Cole Thomas Allen. He's thirty one
Speaker 2: years old.
Speaker 3: He's from Torrence, California, and he's a graduate of California
Speaker 3: Institute of Technology in twenty seventeen and then he got
Speaker 3: his master's degree in twenty twenty five in computer science.
Speaker 2: So a smart guy. He was a.
Speaker 3: Teacher, part time teacher, part time video gamer, and he
Speaker 3: was a guest at the hotel according to CBS.
Speaker 1: And what he's doing and why you see his picture
Speaker 1: and you wouldn't pay attention to this guy if you
Speaker 1: were walking past him in the hallway. Nothing about him
Speaker 1: that's menacing, alarming, noticeable, even Robes.
Speaker 3: Who knows he was teacher of the month last year
Speaker 3: at his place of work. So this is just not
Speaker 3: somebody who anyone had their eye on, like whoa, he's
Speaker 3: a loose cannon, or we wouldn't want him around children.
Speaker 2: No, he was quite the opposite. So it's very puzzling.
Speaker 3: Right now, we know he was carrying knives, a shotgun,
Speaker 3: a handgun, and right now his charges are use of
Speaker 3: a firearm and assault. But those charges are going to accrue.
Speaker 3: He is going to be facing almost certainly many many
Speaker 3: more charges. We heard from jean Peiro last night, who
Speaker 3: said as much.
Speaker 1: We heard from Jeanine Pierro. She had a press conference
Speaker 1: with DC officials and law enforcement, but the President himself
Speaker 1: had his own press conference. Stay here, well tell you
Speaker 1: what the President said. Immediately after this whole incident took place.
Speaker 1: He put out a couple messages on truth social also
Speaker 1: put out a picture and a video we'll describe. Also,
Speaker 1: we'll let you hear what the President said at that
Speaker 1: press conference that had a couple people raise an eyebrow
Speaker 1: or two. Really we're talking about the ballroom right now.
Speaker 1: And also we will let you know why one of
Speaker 1: the top trending topics on social media right now is staged.
Speaker 1: All right, we continue here on Amy and TJ. I
Speaker 1: need to let everybody know the President is safe. Everybody
Speaker 1: in that room at the White House Correspondent's dinner is safe.
Speaker 1: After that incident last night, shots rang out after a
Speaker 1: man rushed past one of the security checkpoints at the
Speaker 1: hotel whether the event was taking place, carrying two guns
Speaker 1: and several knives. He has been charged now, don't know
Speaker 1: what his target, who his target might have been, but
Speaker 1: the investigation is ongoing. Aforus this morning Roll the President
Speaker 1: was the first person we heard from and got information
Speaker 1: last night. You know, as much as we talk about
Speaker 1: the President and true social and stuff, he says, sometimes
Speaker 1: it's nice to get information from the guy at the center,
Speaker 1: and he was giving it to us almost in real time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's wild. He's the one who was rushed off
Speaker 3: the stage. Obviously, the crowded journalists were left wondering what
Speaker 3: the hell is going on? All they had to do
Speaker 3: was pop on a truth social because moments later Trump
Speaker 3: put this out quite an evening in DC. Secret surface
Speaker 3: and law enforcement did a fantastic job. They acted quickly
Speaker 3: and bravely. The shooter has been apprehended, and I have
Speaker 3: recommended that we let the show go on, but will
Speaker 3: entirely be guided by law enforcement. They will make a
Speaker 3: decision shortly. Regardless of that decision, the evening will be
Speaker 3: much different than planned, and we'll just plane have to
Speaker 3: do it again.
Speaker 1: All right. Well that was the first one. He sent
Speaker 1: another one twenty minutes later. But in that one, robes
Speaker 1: it sounded like he was standing by waiting go back
Speaker 1: on state.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he really wanted to come back on and finish
Speaker 3: the evening, And so all the folks there were some
Speaker 3: obviously most of them were going on live television explaining
Speaker 3: or reporting what just happened, but also waiting and maybe
Speaker 3: hoping that the show would go on.
Speaker 2: But twenty minutes later Trump put this out.
Speaker 3: Law enforcement has requested that we leave the premises consistent
Speaker 3: with protocol, which we will do immediately. I will be
Speaker 3: giving a press conference thirty minutes from the White House
Speaker 3: Press Briefing Room. The First Lady plus the Vice President
Speaker 3: and all cabinet members are in perfect condition. We will
Speaker 3: be speaking to you in half an hour. I have
Speaker 3: spoken with the representatives in charge of the event and
Speaker 3: we will be rescheduling within thirty days.
Speaker 1: That's what a scene that's going to be. What a
Speaker 1: different security situation that's probably going to be. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can make the argument that it worked. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: somebody what he's supposed to do now, barricade the area
Speaker 1: in case somebody gets a running start. I don't know
Speaker 1: how else you do that. But Robes, nobody was hurt.
Speaker 1: Somebody went into their armed planning to do harm, and
Speaker 1: nobody was harmed save that one law enforcement officer who's
Speaker 1: already out of jail. I mean, Robes is as awful
Speaker 1: as this looks, and you got a loan nut. Possibly
Speaker 1: this security worked.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 3: I mean at first, when we started to hear the reports,
Speaker 3: we thought, how did someone get into that area? Because
Speaker 3: we've been through it, we know what those checkpoints are like,
Speaker 3: we know it's heavy the security to get into that ballroom.
Speaker 3: So initially we were just like, how could someone bring firearms?
Speaker 3: Then you see the video and see how he runs
Speaker 3: like there's no tomorrow. Then you're like, okay, that would
Speaker 3: be the only way, and it didn't and he didn't
Speaker 3: get far, like he didn't get far enough.
Speaker 2: I guess to do any harm.
Speaker 1: Well, if that's important today. No one got into the
Speaker 1: ballroom with a gun last night, right, That did not happen.
Speaker 1: And so when we first saw this happening last night,
Speaker 1: we both of what the hell, How the hell did
Speaker 1: somebody get in there? And Robes, if you would have
Speaker 1: gotten in that room and just started firing, Oh my
Speaker 1: good god, the type of damage. Jesus.
Speaker 3: The wine is flowing, conversations are going, everyone's ready to
Speaker 3: have a good time after especially it's just been so contentious,
Speaker 3: and so he did so much back and forth. This
Speaker 3: was going to be a night to just really let
Speaker 3: out or let off some steam. So no one was
Speaker 3: on guard to you know, no one was thinking to
Speaker 3: be weary of anyone or anything.
Speaker 2: So that would have been disastrous.
Speaker 1: So the bresident puts out these tweets, Robes you say,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have this press conference. He does. Come to
Speaker 1: the White House Press briefing room, has Cash Mattel, has
Speaker 1: the DHS Secretary of the new one Mullins next to him.
Speaker 1: He had the first ladies in there, Pete Hexa's in there,
Speaker 1: the Vice President's so they all collect over there with
Speaker 1: all these journalists with informal gowns and tuxedos, sitting in
Speaker 1: the room to ask questions now the president and else.
Speaker 1: He didn't, you know what, it's okay for us to
Speaker 1: say how he appeared. The President appeared just fine, and
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people noted that it was
Speaker 1: important for him. In all this chaos and all we've
Speaker 1: seen in this country, we needed to see the president,
Speaker 1: the first family, We needed to see the cabinet, We
Speaker 1: needed to see our government still function into working.
Speaker 3: I would say I would go so far as to
Speaker 3: say the President appeared in good spirits.
Speaker 1: I think that's accurate, and I think I believe him
Speaker 1: when he said, yeah, I wanted the show to go on.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go back out there. It felt like
Speaker 1: that then, And yes.
Speaker 2: I agree with you on that.
Speaker 3: And I also think that for the first time in
Speaker 3: a long time, we heard him sound presidential, where he
Speaker 3: was talking about not being so adversarial towards the press,
Speaker 3: about unifying the group that was gathered there that night.
Speaker 3: It was the first time in a long time we've
Speaker 3: heard him.
Speaker 2: Talk like that.
Speaker 1: Roase he said something last night that I can say
Speaker 1: I have never heard him say before. He complimented the
Speaker 1: press as a whole. He said, I've been watching some
Speaker 1: of your coverage, and you've been doing a good job.
Speaker 1: I think, he said responsible ROAs. He said that to
Speaker 1: this crowd, not just to the right wing media, and
Speaker 1: not just he said this to the crowd involved. And
Speaker 1: the young lady at the CBS news correspondent who was
Speaker 1: the head of the White House Correspondence Association, gave her
Speaker 1: the first question, and he complimented, you did a great job.
Speaker 1: To Roes, I have never heard him this kind of journal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he seemed grateful, ever kind, and just the softer,
Speaker 3: gentler version of President Trump that wow, we could use
Speaker 3: a little bit more of sometimes.
Speaker 1: He said, we could recommit to resolving our differences in
Speaker 1: a peaceful way. Recommit to it. Now. We've seen things
Speaker 1: happen before and things quiet down for a little bit
Speaker 1: and then they ran back up. Have no doubt that
Speaker 1: this is gonna happen once again this time, Rhodes. But
Speaker 1: it was just I have not seen him like that.
Speaker 3: I haven't either, and it was it was wonderful to see.
Speaker 3: It's sad that it took maybe something this frightening to
Speaker 3: bring this out, but certainly it was a much different
Speaker 3: President Trump than we've seen in the last few months.
Speaker 1: Okay, but then he did something very trump like. He
Speaker 1: took the moment to make a pitch robes for the ballroom. Now, fine,
Speaker 1: everybody's okay. Don't know if this was too soon, but
Speaker 1: so much back and forth in court over the new
Speaker 1: ballroom that he wants that has now been put on
Speaker 1: hold by a judge saying that the construction cannot continue.
Speaker 1: The president too long after shots rang out at the
Speaker 1: White House correspondent dinner from the White House Press briefing room,
Speaker 1: decide to make a little pitch for his ballroom. Will
Speaker 1: you know, it's not a particularly secure building.
Speaker 3: And I didn't want to say this, but this is.
Speaker 1: Why we have to have all of the attributes of
Speaker 1: what we're planning at the White House.
Speaker 2: It's actually a larger room, and it's much more secure.
Speaker 1: It's got it's drone proof, it's bulletproof. Lash We need
Speaker 1: the ballroom. That's why Secret Service, that's why the military
Speaker 1: are demanding it. So there you go, he's making a
Speaker 1: pitch for why we need the ballroom is because see
Speaker 1: see what happens.
Speaker 3: That's when I looked at each other and said, is
Speaker 3: he actually pitching his ballroom right now.
Speaker 1: Because we're like, oh, he was doing so well.
Speaker 2: It is too soon.
Speaker 3: I actually think it would it would have landed with
Speaker 3: more weight if he had given it twenty four hours
Speaker 3: and said, you know, I've been really thinking about this,
Speaker 3: and this is another reason why. I mean, I understand
Speaker 3: what he's saying in the connection he's making, just felt
Speaker 3: like it was a little too soon.
Speaker 1: So the judge this goes back robes. They are making
Speaker 1: the argument, the judge who put this thing on hold,
Speaker 1: is that you all being ridiculous, because they came back
Speaker 1: and made an argument in court that we need the
Speaker 1: ballroom because some kind of ways, some tunnels underneath. If
Speaker 1: we don't finish it might put the first family at
Speaker 1: risk in the executive while they use some and he
Speaker 1: found it laughable, the judge. So the President is responding
Speaker 1: almost directly to that judge, saying, see, we need it
Speaker 1: for security. I just thought it was funny.
Speaker 3: I do love the idea of the White House Correspondence
Speaker 3: Center being at the White House Ballroom. That is, I
Speaker 3: had never considered that, I'll be honest, as much as
Speaker 3: I thought too soon, President Trump, I also.
Speaker 2: Thought, ooh, that sounds amazing.
Speaker 1: When is that ballroom going to be done again?
Speaker 3: I might I might look for an invite for that
Speaker 3: first inaugural White House Correspondence Center at the new White
Speaker 3: House Ballroom.
Speaker 1: And Zo Roads for you for the for what you
Speaker 1: just point out there talking about the ballroom. It's too soon,
Speaker 1: is what you just said, right mentioning the ballroom. What's
Speaker 1: happening this past week with the war in er On,
Speaker 1: gas prices are going up, the president approval ratings are
Speaker 1: going down. So you put all those things roll ope
Speaker 1: into a little pile, and it's caused people to put
Speaker 1: it all together and go, wait a second, We're not
Speaker 1: gonna fall for this. And the number two trending topic
Speaker 1: on X this morning, right after the number one when
Speaker 1: being shooting, number two was staged, people have started It's
Speaker 1: a viral conversation going on right now suggesting that in
Speaker 1: some way of a president or someone staged this in
Speaker 1: order to help him with some political troubles.
Speaker 3: Yes, and while I do not subscribe to that, I
Speaker 3: do think that some of the remarks he made about
Speaker 3: being a target. One of the questions that was asked
Speaker 3: of him was why do you think people keep trying
Speaker 3: to kill you? Basically, why do you think so many
Speaker 3: attempts have been made on your life? And he basically
Speaker 3: likened himself to Abraham Lincoln and said, basically, only the
Speaker 3: greats are shot at. And it was a little bizarre,
Speaker 3: as if he was implying because he's had multiple assassination
Speaker 3: attempts that somehow is equivalent to him being a great
Speaker 3: leader or somebody who people envy or want to be,
Speaker 3: or because when you do great things and you are
Speaker 3: a great.
Speaker 2: Leader, you are a bigger target.
Speaker 3: So he took pride and that was a little bizarre,
Speaker 3: and I think maybe that could have also fueled some
Speaker 3: of this sentiment.
Speaker 1: Bro, you said, bizarre, that was the most Trump Like
Speaker 1: thing he did at the press conference. Yes, right, being
Speaker 1: nice to the journalists threw me off, coming back around
Speaker 1: and saying, look, taking it as a badge of honor
Speaker 1: that people are trying to shoot me. That that reads
Speaker 1: and we don't know, and we should say roads we
Speaker 1: do not know right now the motives of this shooter,
Speaker 1: what the target was by this potential shooter. We just
Speaker 1: don't have these answers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know, I was saying. CBS said they have.
Speaker 3: It was two sources within law enforcement who said that
Speaker 3: they were that he said the suspect told them he
Speaker 3: was aiming for administration officials. So it doesn't mean he
Speaker 3: wasn't also aiming for President Trump. But that's the specifics
Speaker 3: they have right now.
Speaker 1: He had a long, long, long way to go to
Speaker 1: get to anybody in that ballroom. Of note that he
Speaker 1: claims at least coins to these sources he was looking for,
Speaker 1: and he was just even if you get to the room,
Speaker 1: you have to even if you're walking through to your table,
Speaker 1: you have a hard time getting around how crowded it is.
Speaker 1: Just it wasn't a well thought out plan. If that
Speaker 1: was the plan, Barrow just another scary incident, another scary
Speaker 1: reminder of some of the politics. We don't know what
Speaker 1: his motives were, but Robe just reminds us of too
Speaker 1: much we've seen. And what about that scene, You know,
Speaker 1: I thought about this. We saw the shot of Erica
Speaker 1: Kirk being taken out that ballroom. She was a guest
Speaker 1: of Fox News under a table at some point, but
Speaker 1: she ends up getting escorted out in the back and
Speaker 1: they have the shot of her she's in tears.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, Wow, I haven't thought about that
Speaker 3: look and you had a bunch of journalists talk about
Speaker 3: for the first time in their lives after reporting on
Speaker 3: so many shootings, found themselves under a table with an
Speaker 3: active shooter.
Speaker 2: And just to have that full circle moment is one thing.
Speaker 3: But when you're Erica Kirk and it hasn't even been
Speaker 3: a year and your husband died in a public forum
Speaker 3: on a dais with shots fired, that's that's too much.
Speaker 2: That's too much.
Speaker 1: We will keep an eye on this one plenty more
Speaker 1: to come out, expecting to hear a lot of updates
Speaker 1: from law enforcement, maybe from the White House as well,
Speaker 1: maybe from the President himself will want to hop on
Speaker 1: give you updates. I know a lot of you maybe
Speaker 1: didn't see this. Last night. We were in the middle
Speaker 1: of watching a We were having a horror movie night
Speaker 1: with the girls on the couch and who was it,
Speaker 1: Sabine bump me. She's looking on our phone as always.
Speaker 1: We said, hey, Trump just got rushed out of the
Speaker 1: White House. Said what are you talking about? Sure enough,
Speaker 1: I look it up and I turned to you and
Speaker 1: then least and I say, hey, guys, I got to
Speaker 1: stop the movie, you know, like, what the hell? I said,
Speaker 1: Just trust me. And we had to put coverage on it,
Speaker 1: and it's it's stunning, stunning that this is happening again.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 3: And obviously this is not anything anyone wants to hear
Speaker 3: about when they're waking up on Sunday morning. But this
Speaker 3: is the world we live in. And look, you even
Speaker 3: said this to me. We were at an event, we were
Speaker 3: at a Broadway show and you just said, I don't
Speaker 3: like now being in these crowded rooms where I don't
Speaker 3: see an easy exit strategy. But that is the world
Speaker 3: we're living in these days. That unfortunately, last night proved
Speaker 3: that to be true once again.
Speaker 1: All Right, folks, we always appreciate you spending some time
Speaker 1: here with us. We're keeping an eye on this one.
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Speaker 1: on behalf of my dear Amy Robock. We always appreciate you.
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