1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: Getty and he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: Hey there, it's a good Friday. What does that mean? 5 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: It means a lot, even if you're not. 6 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: What you would call is yourself a Christian? 7 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: If even if you don't like identify as a Christian, 8 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: it means a lot because it has been the dominant 9 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: influencer of Western culture for two thousand years. And we 10 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 2: can talk about that coming up a little bit later. 11 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: I learned this from Tom Holland in his book Dominion, 12 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: but super super interesting, So I hope he can stick 13 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: around even if you're not religious. 14 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: For me, it was a real slapping my forehead and saying, 15 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, how have I not recognize this moment 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: in hearing some of this just terrific. I hope you 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: can stay tuned. 18 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 2: But first, before we move forward, we must look back 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: fondly at the week that was. It's cowl clips of 20 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: the week. 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: Yes, where we are? 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 3: Yes? 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: Who's there? 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 4: No king? 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: Do it? Is there any decision in particular you disagree with? 26 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 4: Yes? 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: Well? 28 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: Okay, so I would start with, I've given our boys dolls. 29 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: We're recognizing what it is to ultimately deconstruct all these 30 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 3: gender roles and ultimately be human. 31 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: Here, Sean, you know, forgive me. This is embarrassing. 32 00:01:55,240 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 5: We are systematically dismantling the regime's ability to threaten America. 33 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: The blood warning from Iran. Any American troops invading would 34 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: be set on fire. 35 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: We're going to bring them back to the Stone Ages 36 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 2: where they belong. 37 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: President Trump doesn't bluff and he does not back down. 38 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: You can ask Kamanian about that. Go through the strait 39 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: and just take it, protect it. This is not aw war. 40 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: We will not be drawn into the conflict. Docthors Jackson, 41 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: notwithstanding you know you had sort of an idiot ag 42 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: and coming along on this, I wouldn't say that because 43 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: we have cases in front of the court. So Joe, 44 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: well put and lift off. The crew of Artemis two 45 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: now bound for the Moon. 46 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: You'll go deeper into space than any human has ever 47 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: gone before. 48 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: Well, going back. 49 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: To the second Moon. 50 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 6: That's why new questions about Tiger Woods's future. 51 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: After the fifteen time major champion was arrested, he was 52 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: sweating profusely. His movements were lesargic and slow. Mister Woods, 53 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: did you hang out down here with us? 54 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 4: Please? 55 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? I was stalking the president. Well speak. Do you 56 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: know I have a fear of German sausages. I always 57 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: fear the worst. It's clips of the good stuff in there. 58 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: So did you know? I did not know until just 59 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: two minutes ago when I read this The Civil Rights 60 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: movement protested heavily the moon landing in June of nineteen 61 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: sixty nine. 62 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I did not know this. Yeah, I can 63 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: picture Eldridge Cleaver was it leading a big protest in 64 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: uh Houston. 65 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: I think this is after Martin Luther King Junior had 66 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: died if you know your history, because he was killed 67 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: in April fourth. Tomorrow's the anniversary nineteen six. This is 68 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,839 Speaker 2: nineteen sixty nine, June when we landed men on the moon. 69 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: But Ralph Abernathy, who's one of the closest advisors in 70 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: right hand men to Martin Luther King Jr. Led a 71 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 2: protest with about five hundred mostly African American protesters about 72 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: how we're spending all this money on going to the 73 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: moon while people are still. 74 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: Hungry, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah, I wonder if that's 75 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: what I'm picturing. Yeah, the money should be spent in 76 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: the cities, not on the moon. 77 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a number of problems with that. There 78 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: will always be hungry people. So if you're going to 79 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: go with that sort of logic, he can't ever do 80 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: anything as long as anybody's hungry. All of these various 81 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: programs that you want to throw money at to try 82 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: to eliminate hunger seems to have only increased it in 83 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: certain segments of society or made. 84 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: Things trained as graft. Yeah. 85 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: And then you also have I saw this yesterday somebody 86 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: who's making this sort of argument for present day with 87 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: the NASA launch of Artemis two and all that that, 88 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 2: with the we spend twenty billion dollars in our space program, 89 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: and somebody wisely pointed out, yeah, but we spend and 90 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: I forget what the number was, three quarters of a 91 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,119 Speaker 2: trillion dollars on various aid programs. 92 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: In the United States. I mean it's not even close. 93 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 2: I mean it's a drop in the bucket where we're 94 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: spending on NAT's complained compared to for his tax transfers 95 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: to try to help out people who don't have enough 96 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: of this or that. 97 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: But a lot of people would hear that argument say wow, yeah, yeah, 98 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: So it's actually both the false choice uh uh fallacy 99 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: and it's just the mathing right. Yeah. 100 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 2: The tweet, and I don't remember who, was from some lefty, 101 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: well known lefty. The tweet was billions for the space 102 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: program and pennies. 103 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: For the hungry. 104 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: And the response by somebody who knows the numbers was 105 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: or twenty billion for space program in like three quarters 106 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: of a trillion. 107 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: For the hungry. 108 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: But you know, you do you yeah, But that sort 109 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: of thing works. 110 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: It works all the time on a lot of people. 111 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: That's why democracy doesn't work. It's it never worked. It 112 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: can't work. We need to restrict voting to landed white wow, 113 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: and every other color, males and females, anybody with a job, 114 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: anybody who pays taxes. You gotta pay more in taxes 115 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: than you get out of it to be allowed to vote. 116 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: I'll be a fascist. Go ahead, I'm a fascist. Well, goose, 117 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: step right on out of here. 118 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: We had a little clip in there of Gavin Newsom's 119 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: wife talking about how she reads to her kids. If 120 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: you didn't hear that, we did it earlier in the show. 121 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: It's really really insufferable. Good lord. 122 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that whole point of view. 123 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: Changes the male protagonist to female, so her children realize 124 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: that girls can do things too, because it's the Middle 125 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: Ages or even nineteen fifty. 126 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: What are you talking about, She's a reading person, Tom 127 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: Sawyer to her kids? Does she make it, Tina Sawyer, 128 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: so that they know that girls can also make rafts 129 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: and travel around with former slaves. 130 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: Do friends into painting their fence? Yeah, go ahead and 131 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: play the clip, Michael. I have a comment. 132 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: What I've done with both my daughters and my sons 133 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: is if I'm reading a book and the protagonist is 134 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: a male, I just change the heat to as she 135 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: and it just normalizes for my sons. In particularly, it's 136 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: not even I don't even just do it. 137 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: For my girls. 138 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: I do it for my sons because I want them 139 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: to see that women can be the center of a story, 140 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: that women matter, that women are interesting. 141 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: Because there are never books, TV shows, movies. 142 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: Anything where women in real life where women are the 143 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: center of the story just never happens. 144 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: Right, What are you talking about, you crazy person? Two 145 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: things I never bring up, like family or children of 146 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: politicians unless they make them fair game. It's like the 147 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: rules a cross examination in a courtroom. I fear for 148 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: those boys, and I hope they are okay to be 149 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: constantly hammered with the message that I mean. The unspoken 150 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: message is, I'm not going to tell you about boys 151 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: who are heroic or do things, or are adventurous, because 152 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: it's much more important that you learn this. There's an 153 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: unspoken message there. Well, so I give you a couple 154 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: of paragraphs about but I'll bet you can guess what 155 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm mean. 156 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 2: She's doing to her kids what she believes the world 157 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: is doing to women but hasn't been for like centuries. 158 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: Right, right, And then my second thought about it, and 159 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: I think I said this on just a segment that 160 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: only goes out to around the radio ranch locally. Her 161 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: deal is, I believe, Number one, she's got that progressive self, 162 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: a grandizing look how enlightened I am thing twenty four 163 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: to seven she's That's what she gets up in the 164 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: morning to do, is to make herself look enlightened. And secondly, 165 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: because she operates in the rarefied air of the very 166 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: very wealthy Napa Valley types and the rarefied air of 167 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: the very very powerful Sacramento political class, she has no 168 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: idea what normal people think or do or how we live. 169 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: She's guessing she's heard things about how the unwashed masses 170 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: behave and what they think the poor bigoted, you know, 171 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: racist woman hating scum. I mean, it's like she took 172 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: her kids on that zoo trip to the Red States 173 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: so they could see Hayden racism and bigotry. It's like, sweetheart, 174 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: I've lived in the Red States. I love. It's fine. 175 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: It's not what you're picturing from your mountaintop in Healsburg. Well, 176 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: and then she's got another clip, is her She gives 177 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: her boys dolls so that they can learn about nurturing 178 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: and whatever. And so apparently that's her, never having had 179 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: the experience a lot of us have where if you 180 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: let like some boys and girls run wild in a 181 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: room full of toys, the girls pick up the dolls 182 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: and the boys pick up the dump trucks. Almost entirely, 183 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: they just do. We got to deconstruct gender roles. Jack 184 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: not a social construct. Nobody told the little my son 185 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 2: when he was three, only pick up the bulldozers. Boys 186 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 2: don't nurture children, all right, now, go get the bulldozer 187 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: and the oppostion to the girls pick up the doll. 188 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: Girls only take care of babies. 189 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: No, they just naturally do that because there is a 190 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: difference between the genders and were designed a certain way 191 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 2: by evolution. 192 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: And I threw in, go ahead and play with the doll, 193 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: because you'll never be at the center of any adventure 194 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: or story. I made sure my girls do that. 195 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I've given our boys dolls. Even if 196 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: they tear that off, I've given them dolls to learn 197 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 3: that care and caregiving is not just an activity that's 198 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: reserved for women, but that it's also an activity that 199 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: is a responsibility of men. 200 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, she is a dedicated adherent to postmodernism critical theory. 201 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: She's not nearly as smart as she thinks she is. 202 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: Or you are so wildly lacking an insight, dear, you 203 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: live in a world that the world you imagine is 204 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: nothing like the world that actually exists. 205 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 7: That's a great question. 206 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: Well, it was a statement. 207 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: So, as Mark Cowperan's always pointing out, there is no 208 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: scrutiny like running for president scrutiny. I mean, you can 209 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: be governor, you can do all kinds senator, you can 210 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: do all kinds of things. And people are like looking 211 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 2: for the appo. But it's nothing even close to like 212 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: when you're in it for president. There's going to be 213 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: stuff that she has said on camera, on video, tweeted out, 214 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: written about over her ear. It's going to come out 215 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 2: if he actually makes it to presidential GANDID that he 216 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: is really going to struggle to deal with. I mean, 217 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: because this is this is fifty year old her. What 218 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: was twenty five year old her. 219 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: Saying, honestly, it's imp it's possible that it was none 220 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: of this crap because she hadn't been indoctrinated into critical 221 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: station point. She might have been a normal person when 222 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: she was twenty five. That's possible. Yeah. Wow, Okay, we 223 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: got a lot more on the way. Stay here. 224 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 4: I needed a place in NYC to nap, so I 225 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 4: looked up on Reddit where to napp and it was 226 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 4: like all these things being like there's one secret room 227 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 4: in this library that if you go at these hours, 228 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 4: the guards aren't there. Until I read the best idea ever, 229 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 4: which I did. I went to the movie theater, paid 230 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 4: fifteen dollars for a ticket and slept in the recliner 231 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 4: seats during the movie, popped in my earbuds, put on 232 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 4: my beanie and I had one of the best naps 233 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 4: of my life. 234 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 1: That is a. 235 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: Great idea, a reddit that lets you know all the 236 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: good places you could nap. It reminds me of the 237 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: Seinfeld episode where they were quizzing each other, like George 238 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: Costanzo could tell you the closest public restroom, give me 239 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: a spot, you know, twenty third and ninth, the Barnes 240 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: and Noble bookstore. You know, just where people go to 241 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: a public restroom. There need to be you know, Reddit 242 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: things like that. 243 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, that is I take a quick nap. Hey, 244 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: this is apropos nothing. I wanted to squeeze it in. 245 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: I mentioned it hours ago, but Mike and Missouri formerly 246 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: Arkansas wrote, it's a really interesting note. We were talking 247 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: about the Duggers and how that thing kind of fell 248 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: apart and their problems in child molest station. 249 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: Set that briefly because I'm not sure I even remember. 250 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: Weren't they held up as something great by everybody for a. 251 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: While reality show? That yeah, tons of the reality show, though. 252 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: I think they became famous pre reality show because they 253 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: had like, what eighteen kids or something. Obviously that gets 254 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: a lot of attention. And they're supposed to be this 255 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: just fantastic family that cared so much about this and that. 256 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: Then there's reality ship. But then we found out there 257 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: was a pretty ugly underbelly. 258 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: Is that what happened? Yeah, Yeah, there's some some sickness 259 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: definitely going on, including dad. I believe it was. But anyway, 260 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: let me just read some of this. I have many 261 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: thoughts on the Dugger news since I knew both the 262 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: Duggers and Caldwell families, the ones involved in the latest scandal. 263 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: I'd been to both of their churches homes and was 264 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: part of the same cultish homeschool group with my kids. 265 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: Right and my family never Yeah, that was part of 266 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: the angle of lifting it up in the beginning was 267 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 2: it was homeschool, very religious. 268 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: And then he says he obviously has no sympathy for 269 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: some of the bad things that were done, but he 270 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: has a lot of sympathy for the family in general 271 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: when it comes to the weirdness of fame and media 272 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: twisting and exploit exploitation of it. And most of them 273 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: are actually doing quite well, he says, But they're doing 274 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: far better than I think could be expected based on 275 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: the weirdness of fame they received as a large family 276 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: that was selected for a show that made them rock 277 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: stars overnight to homeschoolers, and objects of hate and scorn 278 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: to a lot of the population. Just the small amount 279 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: of tension attention I got from being a Dugger adjacent 280 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: freaked me out a bit. We rented a home from 281 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: them that was on the show often that Josh and 282 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: Anna previously lived in, had randos pretend to run out 283 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: of gas, come to my door regularly hoping to meet 284 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: a Dugger, or stand out in the street taking pictures 285 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: of my kids playing in the yard, even people becoming 286 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: our friends to fish for Dugger info, elite to gossip 287 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: sites about the Duggers. I finally moved us from that 288 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: house when pictures of my kids were on an anti 289 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: Dugger website where psychos make threats all the time. You know, 290 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: I wrote back to Mike. Actually, I said, it's really 291 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: interesting and troubling. Fame is a curse. 292 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: The fact that so many people seek it is well dumb, yeah, 293 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: or just they don't think about it or don't get it. 294 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: Fame is a her that goes along with being successful 295 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: at a visible job. I will I will put that 296 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: as my my sentence to be engraved in granite. Why 297 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: do so many people want to be famous? It's just 298 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: a wanting too much of one level of Maslow's hierarchy 299 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: of needs, the like belongingness or yeah, they want to 300 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: be celebrated, they want to be admired. 301 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, Yeah, yep, they just and it's not dumb. 302 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: That was a bad choice at words. They haven't reckoned 303 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: with her, haven't heard about the really weird side of fame. 304 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of it, not just that stuff, 305 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: but any Hollywood star, any you know, sports star would 306 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: tell you, I'm never sure if I'm actually friends with somebody, 307 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: or they just want to drop my name or they 308 00:16:53,880 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: want something from me, you know. Among among other problems, it's. 309 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: Good Friday, maybe the most important day in the history 310 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: of Western civilization. 311 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: Whether you're religious or not. Talk about that coming up stair, 312 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty. 313 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: You are Christian, whether you know it or not. Actually 314 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: you're Christian, even if you're Muslim or Jewish, even if 315 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: you're an atheist. According to Tom Holland, who wrote the 316 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: book Dominion, and he is a historian, and we talked 317 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: about this fair amount a couple months ago he himself, 318 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: I don't believe is I'm pretty sure he's not a 319 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: believer himself. 320 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: So you don't need to. 321 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: As Christopher Hitchens used to say, you read some of 322 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: these books and they sneak Jesus in through the back door, 323 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: like they make all those arguments, and all of a 324 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: suddenly they gotcha. Now you're stuck believing Jesus as a savior. 325 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 2: That's not what Tom Holland is up to. He's just 326 00:17:54,480 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 2: making the point that the crucifixion of Jesus is so 327 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: important to Western society and the way that we look 328 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 2: at the world that we all really are. The main 329 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 2: dominating philosophy of Western society is Christian, and it is 330 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 2: a Christian philosophy. So that's what happened on this This 331 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: is Good Friday. So in case you're for some reason 332 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: not raised in a way that you would know this. 333 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: This is the day historically that Jesus was crucified. Then 334 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: he discovered in an empty tomb Sunday three days from now, 335 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: that's Easter Sunday. 336 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: That's the way that works. Then appeared to his followers. 337 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what does Tom Holland mean by that? What 338 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: was the big philosophy thing there and he started or 339 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 2: these videos started making the round. This is after AOC 340 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 2: she was over there in Germany at whatever conference thing 341 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: they had going on there, and she mocked the idea 342 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: of Western civilization being a thing. And then there's somebody 343 00:18:54,960 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: else that made a similar comment or whatever, and the pushback, Yeah, 344 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: there is something called Western civilization. And Tom Holland had 345 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: written this book Dominion, about specifically how it comes out 346 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: of the Crucifixion. He makes the argument that the cross 347 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: is the most powerful symbol probably in the history of 348 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 2: the world, for the amount of time that is had 349 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 2: endured and had a meaning, and that previous two Jesus 350 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: and the whole story of the Crucifixion, mankind had a 351 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: very brute the strong. 352 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: What is that saying? 353 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 2: You're always using the strong do what they can, the 354 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: week do to what they muster. Essentially, Yeah, strong do 355 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 2: whatever they want and the week do what they will. 356 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: Yes. 357 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: And everybody was perfectly okay with that. They just thought 358 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: that that was everybody's lot in life. That's the way 359 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: it should be. 360 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: I always. 361 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 2: Remember, because I was confused by this saying from Bin Lawden. 362 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: After nine to eleven there was this thing that went 363 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 2: around with Ben lat and talking about how when two 364 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: people see, when people see two horses fighting, they root 365 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 2: for the strong horse when they see one horse is winning. 366 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: And I always thought, no, I don't, and I don't 367 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: think most people do. 368 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: That is the Western philosophy, in that we tend to. 369 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: If we see somebody strong brutalizing somebody weak, we're horrified 370 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: by it. 371 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: That is a new way to look at the world. 372 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 2: Coming out of the Crucifixion of Jesus two thousand some 373 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: years ago, in that the Crucifixion, crucifying people was a 374 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 2: way for the Roman state, and this sort of thing 375 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: had existed forever and still exists some places in the world, 376 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 2: showing we're in charge. 377 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: We the Romans are in charge. 378 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: We make the rules, and this will what will happen 379 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: to you if you disobey the rules. And so they 380 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 2: would crucify people, which it was a horribly painful way 381 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: to die, and they would. 382 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: You were torturing them to death right of course, many 383 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: hours here. 384 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: And they would do it in public and leave those 385 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 2: crosses hanging up on the outskirts of all the towns. 386 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: So everybody, no, this is what happens if you crosses, 387 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: and for whatever reason I guess, I guess just human nature. 388 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: People were kind of well, you know, he had it coming. 389 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: He was a thief, or he was in a you know, 390 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 2: whatever the crime was, you went against the Romans. Tom 391 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 2: Holland in his book he uses the example all the 392 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 2: time of Caesar went up north into Europe, slaughtered a 393 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 2: million people and came back a hero for having done that. 394 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: Who would think in them, you know, in the Western 395 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: civilization modern era hold that up as a great thing 396 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: because you had a more powerful army, you went and 397 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 2: slaughtered a million innocent people. Right, nobody would have hold 398 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: that up, but that was that was the belief system 399 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 2: of again, of human nature. You know, see kids and 400 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: what bullies will do if somebody doesn't intervene, they'll just 401 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: take charge. But the idea, well, the weak had it coming. 402 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 2: The stronger came along. We root for the we root 403 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 2: for the strong horse Caesar in our civilization that has 404 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 2: better weapons, and the weak had to come. 405 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: And they deserve that for being weak. You deserve it 406 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: for being weak. 407 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: We've all known people like that who kind of feel 408 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: like kids that get picked on, well, they kind of 409 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: have it coming because they're weak, which is just the Yeah, yeah, 410 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: it's just a disgusting idea. Well, the whole the weakest 411 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 2: of the week, Jesus being crucified, being being resurrected, and 412 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 2: then being held up of here is the weakest. Here's 413 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: the lowest rising up against the most powerful, being a 414 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: symbol of you know, the downtrodden have reasons to be 415 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 2: respected and honored and valued in the same way that 416 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: the powerful. 417 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: Do, which was a completely new notion. Yeah, I was 418 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: gonna say, and it's I happen to come across this 419 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: from Galatians, that there's neither Jew nor Greek, slave, nor 420 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 1: free male nor female when it comes to salvation. And 421 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: without that notion, we hold. 422 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: These truths to be self evident, that all men are 423 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: created equal could not have been written. Nobody would have 424 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 2: ever said that pre Christianity, very Christian notion. Tom Holland 425 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 2: makes that specific point in his book about the Declaration 426 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 2: of Independence. Yeah, and he doesn't the history in Tom 427 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 2: Holland does a much better job of describing it in 428 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 2: the book. If you want to read a thousand page book, 429 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: or just check out any of his YouTube videos. 430 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: There's a million of them describing. 431 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 2: This whole philosophy that was brand new upon the world, 432 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: the idea that the weak should be valued every bit. 433 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: As much as the strong, well and equally American is 434 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: the notion that Christianity screwed this up over and over again, 435 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: because we're human beings. We screw everything up. But the 436 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: notion that there is the Kingdom of God, then there's 437 00:23:55,160 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: the kingdom on earth. The secular should not profane the sacred, 438 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: and the sacred need not worry about the secular. That's 439 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: obviously a very non Islamic way to look at the 440 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: world too, but that absolutely informs our constitution. And you 441 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: know that came straight out of the New Testament. Render 442 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: un a Caesar, what is Caesar's under God? What is 443 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: God's Yeah? 444 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 2: And he actually talks a fair amount about Nietzschee and 445 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 2: who more or less had the view of the strong 446 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 2: get to do what they want and the week should 447 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 2: suffer for being weak. That Hitler latched onto with that 448 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: same sort of belief and just sharing the word the 449 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: powerful and. 450 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: Look at the. 451 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 2: Whether you're handicapped or whatever your problem is, you're weak 452 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: and you should be dispensed with, which is not the 453 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: Christian view of things. 454 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: Hitler actually thought he had a duty to mankind to eliminate, 455 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: certainly to the German people. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, to eliminate 456 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: to to its strengthen the herd in general. I just 457 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: I think that example of Caesar is so interesting. There 458 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: is no. 459 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 2: Is there anywhere on Earth where you could still do that. 460 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 2: Maybe there are some I don't know, I don't even 461 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: want to mention any places, but maybe there are some 462 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 2: places on Earth where you would still go out and 463 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 2: slaughter the neighborhood village. And because you could do that, 464 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 2: you're held up as Yeah, that's awesome, good for you. 465 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: Those weak people, they haven't coming. That is definitely not 466 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: a Western civ way of looking at things. 467 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Nigeria right now, yesterday, we would all be horrified 468 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: by that. Yeah. Yeah, I don't care what your political 469 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: cause is. You wiped out the suburb next door. I mean, 470 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: the entire country would turn a good against that person's cause, 471 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: no matter how good it might be. Yeah, it's horrible. 472 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: And so Holland says as a historian that that is 473 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: the dominant philosophy on Earth for a couple thousand years, 474 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 2: and we're all, oh, it's kind of like the fish 475 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 2: don't know they are wet because we're swimming in that 476 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 2: Christian view of the week versus strong and everything like that. 477 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: We're just so used to it. People. 478 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: You can be atheists, you can think Christianity is dumb 479 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: and whatever you want to think. You're still living in 480 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: a Christian world. 481 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: As you've pointed out more than once, it's sometimes atheists 482 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: who most have vehemently espouse the idea that we must 483 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: help the downtrodden, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, And. 484 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: She makes that point that the woke are Christian whether 485 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: they know it or not, and it would probably really 486 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: make them mad. 487 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Can I end on this note? Horse fights? 488 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 2: Horse fights, right, You're putting horses together to fight, would 489 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 2: be like dogfights, same sort of thing. And when you 490 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 2: see the big tough dog tearing apart the little dog, 491 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: you think, yeah, tear that week one apart. That's a 492 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: different way of looking at the world. Yes, then we've 493 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 2: been doing in Western civilis for a couple of thousand. 494 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: Years, and that point of view would be manifest in 495 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: a very very different form of government Tror, of course, 496 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: which is Islamism Shariah, which is why I'm so vehemently 497 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: against it. It's and its incursions into the West. 498 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 2: It's interesting to me. I did go to a church 499 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 2: every Sunday as a kid for many, many, many years. 500 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 2: So where I go where the Western civilization philosophy got 501 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 2: into me? 502 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: I don't even know. 503 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: If I had to come through the church. It might 504 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: could have come through my parents or grandparents or friends whatever. No, no, no, 505 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 2: you don't pick on little kids. That's that is the 506 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: weakest thing you could do, is to pick on somebody 507 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 2: who's weaker than. 508 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: You, right, That is that is an incredible lack of character. 509 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 2: That's the opposite of look at the tough dog, destroy 510 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: the little dog. The little dog had it coming. And 511 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 2: I mean that is a monumental change in philosophy. And 512 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: that's what today Good Friday symbolizes. According to Tom Holland m. 513 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: That is a really interesting, great book. Ye, it's it's. 514 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: So troubling to think that that was the dominant philosophy 515 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: for so long and could be again. 516 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: If we can't hang out of this. I certainly don't 517 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: want to offend anybody's religious beliefs, but I would say 518 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: the history mankind would suggest that it's almost certainly going 519 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: to be the brutality again unless we defend enlightenment. It 520 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: needs to be defended. It's not the net back to 521 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: the OFFICI doesn't know what's what. It's not the natural state 522 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: of mankind. It's a miracle. Fight for it. 523 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff, we'll finish strong next. 524 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: But listen to this. 525 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 5: Hershey and I said they will soon go back to 526 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 5: using chocolate for their Reese's products. This raise the way 527 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 5: more questions than it answer. 528 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: No kidding. 529 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: Everyone about to give their kid an Easter basket full 530 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: of Reess is like great timing? 531 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: What no kidding? What is our what is? What is it? 532 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: Now? 533 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: You don't want to know? Apparently not. Well, it's like 534 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: cheese whizz or whatever is pasteurized cheese food. I mean 535 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: it's look, we came up with it in the lab. 536 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: It looks like chocolate. It tastes more or less like chocolate, 537 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: just to eat it. So so go ahead, I was 538 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: gonna say. Another humorist but not making jokes. Greg Guttfeldt 539 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: took on one of our favorite topics lately, the Go 540 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: Go power couple from California. The newsoms see what he 541 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: had to say. 542 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 7: Here's the voices to stand out and speak out when 543 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 7: they see pain and suffering and bullying and racism and 544 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 7: misogyny around them. I am a truth seeker and they 545 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 7: need to know the truth. 546 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: They need to know the truth what that Their mom 547 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: is just as fully is their dad. 548 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 5: Hey mom, Hey mom, can we go to Disney World? No, kids, 549 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 5: We're off to shame white people in Alabama. These two 550 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 5: are not a power couple. They're just a better looking 551 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 5: version of Jim and Tammy fay Baker Shelf, promoting egotists 552 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 5: who gained the system by seizing control of it. And 553 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 5: the scariest part is this is the best the DEM's got. 554 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: Everybody's latched onto that on the right now his will yeah, yeah. 555 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: That might keep him from running. It could, and he 556 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: might not even tell. He might not even be honest 557 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: with his own wife about why he decides not drying 558 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: because he can say I just decided I didn't want 559 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: to put the kids through it, not because I found 560 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: out there a lot a lot of stuff you've said 561 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: over the years, and I'm gonna have to answer for 562 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: it and ain't gonna be Yeah. 563 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, honey, you know the part of the Democratic 564 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: Party the ninety percent of Americans say they hate, uh, 565 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: you're it. 566 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: You're that, you're like you have become already the symbol 567 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: of it. 568 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: Love you, babe, But yeah, all those things, that's that's 569 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: what you say all the time. 570 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 2: You're the queen of the part of the party that 571 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 2: Bill Maher and others say keeps us from winning elections. 572 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: Yes, I wonder, given the the the sexual fever that 573 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: egomaniacs have for getting to the White House, it could 574 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: leads you to you know, we all rationalize things all 575 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: day long. But I wonder can he rationalize away having 576 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: his wife just become a national laughing stock saying no, no, no, 577 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: I'll call them out. I'll say she's not the candidate 578 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: I am, and that'll stop it. Because he's so I mean, 579 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: I often say, like a seventeen year old is lustful 580 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: for the gentle touch of a woman. I just I 581 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: wonder whether he can put aside. 582 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: That would not work, That would not work, That would 583 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 2: not work. I mean, it might work if you had 584 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: a spouse who you know, had some baggage. But she's 585 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: not political. She says, you know, hey, I'm the president, 586 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: but she she is going to be uh we're running 587 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 2: you know, as co presidents. 588 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: She's going to be that type. Well, not only that, 589 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: but she believes she's on a whatever the secular equivalent 590 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: of a sacred mission is, She's on a sacred mission 591 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: to spread her philosophy to everyone. So she's not going 592 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: to want to let him back out. She's gonna be like, no, 593 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna fight for what we believe, which is woke nonsense. 594 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: Hey kids, it's that time again. 595 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 4: With Armstrong and Buddy. 596 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: Here's your oath for final thoughts, Joe Getty, let's get 597 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap 598 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: up the day of the week. 599 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: Mike Lenge Low lead us off. Which final thought? 600 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 6: All right, this is for adults that are going to 601 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 6: an Easter egg hunt. Let the little kids get the eggs. 602 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 6: Do not knock the little kids over. You're an adult, Yeah, 603 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 6: I've seen it with my own eyes. 604 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: Wow, they're little Osama bin Laden's, aren't they the strong Horse, 605 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: ETCETERA Katie Green or a Steam Newswoman. 606 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 2: As a final thought, Katie, I would love to hear 607 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 2: Gavin and Jennifer like in just a slight disagreement going 608 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 2: back and forth. 609 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: Oh boy, And then he would try to make a 610 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: point and she'd go m passive, aggressive, hell is what 611 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm missing. Yeah yeah, Jack. 612 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: A final thought for us has a good reminder, Michael. 613 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 2: After all of my Western civilization Christianity values the week 614 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 2: stuff earlier this hour. I was the MC of a 615 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: giant Easter egg hunt one time, and watching moms push 616 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 2: down little kids to get more candy for their own 617 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: kid was one of the most horrible things I've ever seen. 618 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was horrible, Katie. It was a radio promotion. 619 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: Mom's just like elbowing down little kids so they could 620 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 2: get ridiculous amounts of candy. I mean, more than you 621 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 2: could ever need in your life though. 622 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: How humans actually are illustrated right there? My final thought 623 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: is two words long, go Eline. I fighting Line Eye 624 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 1: in the final four plane Saturday night, maybe in the 625 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: National Championship game on Monday, Monday. Monday, yeah, Monday. And 626 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: if they win, that will reflect well on me and 627 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: make me cooler as an individual. 628 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 2: And if they lose, will we get some sort of 629 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 2: sto sports or a stupid waste of time screed? Uh? 630 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 2: Probably yeah yeah, armstrong and giddy wrapping of but other 631 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 2: grueling for our work day. 632 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: I got a worthless degree from them forty years ago. 633 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: So many people to think so. 634 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 2: A little time, Good Armstrong, Giddy dot com, God bless America. 635 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 2: I'm strong and getty a. 636 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton. I've been working on this should have paid 637 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: less attention to song and more attention to jong ill 638 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: and because it rhymes, it's more powerful. I don't. Oh, 639 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: clearly everybody knows that. 640 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 2: Get the podcast on 641 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 6: Fine A great Friday, you, Mother, Armstrong and Gaddy