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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Ertors,

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the Ti Iraq,

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Speaker 2: not Tyrex Studio. Sorry, I don't know where that came from.

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Speaker 2: We do love Tyraq here at Fox Sports Radio, though,

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Speaker 2: I am Aratrus. He is Jason Martin the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio Studios. Excuse me, sorry, I'm fired up, j mart

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to talk about today. College football

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Speaker 2: picture pretty much remains the same as it was coming

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Speaker 2: into today. Lane Kiffin's future, We got some NFL stuff,

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Speaker 2: by the way, very excited about this. We have not

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Speaker 2: had Bernie Fratto on in a while. He will join

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Speaker 2: us in our final hour. A lot going out in

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Speaker 2: Vegas this week, between Shador Sanders' debut, between F one

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Speaker 2: this evening. Anyway, I'm rambling, j mart How are you

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Speaker 2: here on a Saturday evening?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing all right. Yeah. It's definitely been kind of

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Speaker 3: a chalk day in college football, but you're gonna have

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Speaker 3: those from time to Luckily, there's stuff that's happening around

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Speaker 3: that world, maybe not on the field, that's quite as

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Speaker 3: exciting as what's happening off it. And that's just fine

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Speaker 3: for us because this content either way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, certainly, we'll get to the news of the day,

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Speaker 2: the news of the week with Lane Kiffin here in

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Speaker 2: a few minutes. Let's just go ahead and kind of

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Speaker 2: rip through some of the results from today. I thought

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Speaker 2: it was interesting of the top twelve teams that were

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Speaker 2: in action, the only you know, top twelve is kind

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Speaker 2: of the fringe of like, who realistically right now could

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Speaker 4: All of that.

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Speaker 2: But I bring it up because everyone was either on

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Speaker 2: a bye like Ole miss or won their games. The

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Speaker 2: only one that's still going on Number eleven BYU up

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Speaker 2: twenty to seven over Cincinnati on Fox about seven minutes

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Speaker 4: But A and M.

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Speaker 2: Rolled, Alabama rolled, Ohio State, rolled Georgia, rolled, on and on.

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Speaker 2: I you want to rip through a couple of games

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Speaker 2: that were noteworthy from today, I'll start with this Jay

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Speaker 2: Mart Oklahoma seventy.

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Speaker 4: Missouri six.

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Speaker 2: So we were on air obviously, frankly, you know, we

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Speaker 2: were on air a few weeks ago when Tennessee beat

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Speaker 2: or Oklahoma beat Tennessee in Knoxville. Incredible result for Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: They followed it up with the win last week at Alabama.

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Speaker 2: That was kind of weird. They had the defensive touchdown.

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Speaker 2: And I'll be honest, j Mart. You know, Missouri coming

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Speaker 2: into today three losses, but they lost to Alabama by three.

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Speaker 2: They also lost to Vandy. On what was essentially the

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Speaker 2: final play. I said, you know, maybe Missouri could keep

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Speaker 2: it close. Bo Pabula, their starting quarterback comes back. Well

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Speaker 2: he came back. But I'll tell you this, man. You know,

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Speaker 2: this Oklahoma defense is unbelievable, holding Missouri to six total

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Speaker 2: points in this game. Oklahoma gets the win, and I

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Speaker 2: think this was probably the most noteworthy game. You know,

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Speaker 2: now knowing the results, I think this was probably the

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Speaker 2: most noteworthy because of course Oklahoma with the new pull out,

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Speaker 2: they were ranked number eight. They are in position to

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Speaker 2: the SEC Championship game. I actually think they've actually been

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Speaker 2: technically eliminated from it. But for a team that you know,

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Speaker 2: hot seat, he's certainly off of it. Oklahoma and proofs

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Speaker 2: to nine and two. They have a home game against

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Speaker 2: LSU to get to ten and two, and ten and

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Speaker 2: two will get them in the playoff Jmartin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Brent Vetables seid after the game, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: not a beauty contest, and he's right, because this team

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Speaker 3: is ugly. That's how they win games, that's how they

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Speaker 3: play games. Their offense is nothing to write home about

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Speaker 3: at all. But the big thing is it doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 3: When you have a defense like that, you're gonna be

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Speaker 3: in a lot of football games, and generally throughout the

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Speaker 3: had enough, but they've been able to sort of overcome

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Speaker 3: the lethargy of the offense. And I heard whoever's broadcasting

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Speaker 3: the games, nobody wants to see them in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, to me, they kind of remind

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Speaker 3: You know, Drew.

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Speaker 2: It kind of fits when you think about the fact

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Speaker 2: abdual Carter kept them in all games, but it did

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Speaker 4: That they had.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have much to add here, man, Like

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Speaker 2: I think the story's fun. We talked about a little

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Speaker 2: bit last week after Oklahoma beat Alabama of just you know,

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Speaker 2: as we get deeper into this twelve team playoff era,

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Speaker 2: I think that we're going to start talking about teams

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Speaker 2: where you know, that's that's a team that could make

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Speaker 2: the second weekend of the NCAA tournament. That's a team

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Speaker 2: think Oklahoma, as we said last week, is one of

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Speaker 2: take care of an LSU team, which again struggled on

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Speaker 2: on Saturday, they will be in that field of twelve. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: j Mart, well not unfortunately, but I was hoping for

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Speaker 2: a USC upset today, hoping that maybe we get the

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Speaker 2: the Lincoln Riley returns to Oklahoma in the first round

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Speaker 2: of the playoff storyline that did not happen. Oregon beat

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Speaker 2: to USC forty two to twenty seven is the final score.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you have any Big Bowl takeaways

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Speaker 4: I think they're they're kind of what I just talked about.

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Speaker 2: You know, they were a bubble team that needed to

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Speaker 2: win this game to to you know, listen, if they

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Speaker 2: next week, they would they would be a deserved ten

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Speaker 2: we're just gonna see teams that aren't quite good. And

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Speaker 2: I think that's what USC is. I mean, my only

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Speaker 2: solid season for Lincoln Riley. Oregon gets the win. They

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Speaker 2: improved to ten and one. I would think with this

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten in the College Football Playoff. This, by

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Speaker 2: the way, assuming Michigan doesn't beat Ohio State next week,

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Speaker 2: because Michigan is quietly sitting at eight, and I guess

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Speaker 2: it would be add nine and two going into the

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Speaker 2: game next week. Any big picture takeaways on Oregon USC.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of saw it the way you did.

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Speaker 3: It was. USC tried to keep it interesting a few

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Speaker 3: give them a bit more breathing room. It was certainly

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Speaker 3: an entertaining football game, but I felt like Oregon was

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Speaker 3: just the better team, and to your point, pretty much

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Speaker 3: you know, championship leveling than the other. Is. I still

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Speaker 3: think it's a pretty good year for Lincoln Riley and USC.

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Speaker 3: Oregon is supposed to be here. USC really wasn't.

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Speaker 2: I was actually gonna ask you that because I and

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Speaker 2: we talked about this a little bit last week after

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Speaker 2: with Lincoln Riley is no matter what he does, it's

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Speaker 2: not enough. And we all understand how he left Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: and the contract that he signed in the standard and

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Speaker 2: expectations at USC. But you know, I don't have the

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Speaker 2: don't think most people had them going nine to three

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Speaker 2: a Lincoln Riley hater, it's going to sound like an excuse.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I think he kind of said, hey, look,

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Speaker 2: we're actually kind of built for next year. Jada Mayava.

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Speaker 4: Where do you stand just on where this program is

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Speaker 3: I think it's ahead of where I thought it was

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Speaker 3: The defensive coordinator change didn't work out, the Caleb Williams

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Speaker 3: last year they were basically irrelevant. But then you look

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you don't take all of the steps at once.

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Speaker 3: It comes in succession. And for USC, I was not

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Speaker 3: anticipating them being even on the cusp of a playoff

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Speaker 3: out Lincoln Raley too much because I didn't think anything

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really quickly a couple of and again keeping in mind,

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Speaker 2: eight to nothing. Ohio State actually rested Jeremiah Smith and

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Speaker 2: because you know, you and I and Ian we're kind

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Speaker 2: of texting about this game. Vanderbilt first nine win regular

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Speaker 2: undefeated for their entire homeslate since nineteen eighty two. And

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Speaker 3: What is Laying going to do? Is he going to

435
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 3: remain at Old Miss, leaving those other two jobs open,

436
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 3: or is one of those jobs going to be filled

437
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 3: at which point Ole Miss becomes open. But then you're

438
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 3: looking at a different crop of candidates, and one of

439
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 3: those schools, be at Florida or LSU, then has to

440
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 3: move to the next name on their list. It's yeah, maybe, yeah, exactly.

441
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 3: I my initial thought. I found it interesting because we

442
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,719
Speaker 3: were kind of going back and forth about this today.

443
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 3: When I saw this announcement, I said, Oh, he's staying.

444
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 3: That was my initial thought, and I felt completely confident

445
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 3: about it, and I'm going to stick with it. I

446
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 3: think he's going to stay. It just seems crazy to

447
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 3: me that they would go through the egg bowl thing

448
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 3: to then just pour water all over the fan base

449
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 3: and say, by the way, he's leaving, he's going to

450
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 3: have to leave immediately to you know, whatever he's got

451
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 3: to do, so it's gonna be an interim coach and

452
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 3: whatever you were hoping about for the college football playoff,

453
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,239
Speaker 3: you know, things are about to get real ugly here,

454
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 3: real fast. That seems like that seems unthinkable to me

455
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 3: from an optics standpoint. But at the same time, and

456
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 3: I'll throw it to you to kind of make this case.

457
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 3: When you mentioned that you felt diametrically opposed to me

458
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 3: about it. The last couple of hours, I've been thinking

459
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 3: about it from that perspective, and especially when you go

460
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 3: and you look at the comments and everything that's being said,

461
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 3: it's like, we don't want this to be a distraction.

462
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 3: I don't know that it would be a distraction if

463
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 3: he was staying. So I can read it both ways.

464
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 3: I'm going to stick with my guns. I'm just gonna

465
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 3: stick with my my instinct on this when I saw

466
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 3: that was oh, this is gonna be a big time celebration.

467
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,959
Speaker 3: And the whole point of this is not only are

468
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 3: they going to probably win the egg ball running away

469
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 3: the next day, Lane's gonna say, you know what, man,

470
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 3: it's nice to be wanted in a lot of these places,

471
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 3: But this has been my home for the last handful

472
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,239
Speaker 3: of years. My family loves it here. We want, we

473
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 3: want to win a championship for the Rebels. We don't want,

474
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 3: we don't need to go do it somewhere else. We're

475
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 3: gonna do it right here and then stick around. And

476
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 3: then you have like one of these iconic moments that

477
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 3: should he go win a championship there in the next

478
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 3: couple of years, is something they'll never forget. It'll be

479
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 3: put on the statue outside the stadium of him down

480
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 3: the road. And maybe that's just the pro wrestling booker

481
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 3: in me that sees a way to make a guy

482
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 3: into a hero that at times has been easy to

483
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 3: make a villain through the years. But that's just that's

484
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 3: my my take, and I'm just gonna stick with my

485
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 3: first gut feeling on it is. When I saw that

486
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 3: from Carter, I immediately thought, Oh, he's staying I don't. I

487
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 3: don't think there's even a question anymore.

488
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 2: By the way, at some point, maybe if we host

489
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: one of these, you know, Christmas Day shows or something.

490
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: I got to get your backstory on being a professional

491
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: booking wrestling booker, because it sounds like a pretty badass job,

492
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: but we could save that for the future. So a

493
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 2: couple of things. You know, I'll give credit where it's due.

494
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: So I was filling in for Doug Gottlib yesterday. I

495
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: was on there with Dan Byer and we actually had

496
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 2: a guest when this broke and I only read the

497
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: last line and Dan kind of did a double thing.

498
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: He said, dude, you need to read it because I

499
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: think it says something pretty clear.

500
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 4: So my quick thoughts, and.

501
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: You know, we can bounce back and forth and obviously

502
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: get to the segre here in a few minutes.

503
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 4: Is a couple of things.

504
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: One is that I think that if Lane Kiffin was

505
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 2: one hundred percent coming back, I do think that it

506
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense to me because right now it does

507
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: not feel like anyone in that if if Lane Kiffin

508
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 2: is coming back, and if they're gonna have this crazy announcement,

509
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: First of all, I would do it Friday, right after

510
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: the game, right like you can frame it as, uh,

511
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 2: you know, we'll have a final answer sometime following the game.

512
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 2: But to do it on Saturday feels like, so you're

513
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: gonna make people wait all week. Then you're gonna make

514
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: it wait till Saturday. So that's part of it. I

515
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: think the other part to me is that it doesn't

516
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 2: feel like it's a big secret that everybody in the

517
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: building is keeping, Like like if you are waiting until

518
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: after the game to announce this, you know, one you're

519
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: putting your team at jeopardy for a loss. Now I

520
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 2: think even if you lose, you're probably still in the playoff,

521
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 2: but you know you're putting yourself at risk for a loss.

522
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: So I just think that if you know you're staying,

523
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 2: if you're a one hundred percent and I'm not saying

524
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 2: that he won't stay, I just don't think that he

525
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: has made a final decision if he does plan on staying.

526
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 4: Is if you are staying, then.

527
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: It feels like a weird thing to string out all

528
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: week long, because all you're doing is putting yourself a

529
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: position where maybe just maybe you you know you're you know,

530
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 2: you're putting yourself in a position where your players are distracted,

531
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: where your players are answering questions whatever.

532
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 4: So there's that and just.

533
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: The way the whole thing reads to me, And I'll

534
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: read a couple quick specific lines he says, you know,

535
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 2: while we discuss next steps, we know we cannot lose

536
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: sight of what's most important, our sixth ranked team that

537
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: has poised to finish the regular season in historic fashion.

538
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 2: Despite the outside noise, Coach Kiffin has focused on preparing

539
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 2: our team for the Egg Bowl, and together, we want

540
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: to ensure that our players and coaches concentrate fully on

541
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 2: the next game. And then again it wraps with you know.

542
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: An announcement on coach Kiffin's future is expected on Saturday

543
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: following the game. Long story short, The way that reads

544
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: to me is the very cliche thing that your parents

545
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: used to tell you. Hey, let's just enjoy this journey

546
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 2: and not worry about the destination. Let's worry about this

547
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: week and then we'll worry about the future after that.

548
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: And one, I don't think that's a good message to

549
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: send to your fan base because now all they want

550
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: to do is stress out this and they can't even

551
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 2: enjoy the game. It's not like they're gonna sit there

552
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 2: and like, oh, you know, whatever happens after, who cares,

553
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 2: let's just beat our rival. I think they're just like,

554
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: it's actually the opposite, Like I actually can't enjoy this

555
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: even if we do beat the rival, because I don't

556
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: know what's coming next. So there's a lot of rambling,

557
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: that's a lot of talking. But to me, that statement,

558
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 2: the way that I read it, sounds like, let's enjoy

559
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: the journey and not worry about the destination. And to me,

560
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: I think it is a huge pr GAF if that

561
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 2: is what the intention was. I think it's a huge

562
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: pr GAF from the folks at at Old Miss because

563
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: and oh, by the way, one more thing, real quick

564
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: is if he has agreed to something and if you

565
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: are waiting, I think there's a way to frame it

566
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: where it doesn't come off as the way that it did.

567
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: But anyway we could keep going, I want to get

568
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: it back to you, I have to talk long enough.

569
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. So one line that you didn't mention that I

570
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: just highlighted actually on my screen, and it definitely kind

571
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: of just struck me differently just now is this team

572
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: is on the cusp of an unprecedented season and it's

573
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 3: imperative they feel the support of the Old Miss family

574
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 3: in the week ahead. That it's like what's not said

575
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: there is because they're probably gonna be real upset right

576
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 3: after that, similar to kind of what you're saying, but like,

577
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 3: why would they not feel the support of the old

578
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 3: miss family. That's why we're gonna wait until after the

579
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: game to say this. The only other thing with me, though,

580
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: is just like I know, it's a rivalry game and all,

581
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: but they should have no problem beating Mississippi State. Even

582
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: though Mississippi State has done some okay stuff this year.

583
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 3: They usually don't finish off opponents, and they're they're making

584
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: a lot out of not being distracted going into this

585
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: game that I think they're probably gonna win by twenty

586
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: or thirty points or something like that. I don't know.

587
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 3: I'm not as sold anymore as I was. Like I

588
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: said when we were talking about this afternoon, I went

589
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 3: back and thought about it from both perspectives. I can

590
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: make both arguments that it's clear he's gonna leave and

591
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 3: that it's clear he's gonna stay. I'm just gonna remain

592
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 3: with my gut on it. I may be a fool

593
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: in a week. Look, if they're offering I mean LSU

594
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: offering ninety to ninety eight million dollar packages with a

595
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: twenty five million dollar um basically player cash annually to

596
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: go out, and the governor has put his stamp on it,

597
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: and all by the.

598
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 4: Way, like real quick side thing. It's a isn't it funny?

599
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 4: Oh the governor?

600
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we're not gonna do these crazy contracts anymore.

601
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: And then it's like we're gonna offer this, Oh, you

602
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: want a good football coach? Oh, by the way, like

603
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm not being hyperbolic, like I don't. I

604
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: don't know where the governor is in terms of his

605
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: term and reelection. You want to the quickest way not

606
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: to get reelected, Uh, give out some crappy contract and

607
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: get a crappy coach.

608
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 4: That's the quickest way.

609
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 2: So it's funny how it went from yeah, we're not

610
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: doing these lousy contracts anymore to uh, yeah you will.

611
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 4: What do you need?

612
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 2: Like any amount of money? Any amount of nil? You

613
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: need a shrimping boat off the off the coast there? Like,

614
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: what do you need? I thought that part was funny.

615
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm I'm not as sure on my position

616
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 3: as I was, but I'm just gonna stick with what

617
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 3: I thought the first time. And I think you're on

618
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 3: the opposite side. So one of us will be right,

619
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: one of us will be wrong. I will say this.

620
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: You can understand why he would leave. I hope he stays.

621
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: I agree, just because I think it would be one

622
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: good for college football and two for Lane Kiffin's reputation.

623
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 3: This kind of new version of Lane, the one that's

624
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: a little bit softer, that's a lot easier to root

625
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: for in many respects, and all this like this is

626
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: the opposite of what Lane would have done in the past.

627
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: And I'm always a fan of carving out your own

628
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 3: legacy as opposed to following a legacy that's already established.

629
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,719
Speaker 3: Like he could go down in the history books with

630
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: what he could do and what he already has been

631
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 3: doing at ole Miss. If he goes to LSU, he's

632
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 3: just going to be another coach that wins a national

633
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: championship there at Best, right, And the same thing would

634
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: be true at Florida, And of course he has to

635
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: win multiples there to do anything, like unless he turns

636
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: into Nick Saban, where he can write his ticket because

637
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: of what he's done at Alabama, where it's not just

638
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: he's another coach that won at Alabama. It's like, no,

639
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: he's Nick Saban, and it's completely different. Like he wins

640
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: at ole Miss, he's somebody that won at ole Miss,

641
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: and that's such a different that's just a different thing.

642
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: That's why I always felt the same way about like

643
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: Dabos winning back in the day. He should stay at Clemson.

644
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: They should have to carry him out of there because

645
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: of building a program and all this, Mark Fewitt, Gonzagaz,

646
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: some of these kind of guys. This is a place

647
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 3: that maybe isn't quite as sexy as Baton Rouge or

648
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: Gainesville in some respects, but man Oxford's a great college town.

649
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Speaker 3: They love the rebels, They've supported him like crazy, They've

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Speaker 3: put money behind it, and I just think it would

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Speaker 3: be a great story for him to basically say, yeah,

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Speaker 3: the big dogs have come after me, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: stay here. I want to continue building what we've already built,

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Speaker 3: because it's so the opposite of what you would have

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Speaker 3: thought Lane Kiffin would have done five years ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my last last thought. Lane Kiffin is absolutely entitled

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Speaker 2: to do whatever he wants. But if he does decide

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Speaker 2: to leave, given how he left Tennessee, given how he

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Speaker 2: was fired before a national championship game at Alabama for

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Speaker 2: too many distractions, do what you want, do what you

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Speaker 2: think is best. Don't ever try to sell us that

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Speaker 2: you're changed or you're different if you leave under these

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Speaker 2: circumstances in the middle of the best regular season in

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Speaker 2: the history of the program that you're currently at Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio air towards Jason Martin, let's get it over

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Speaker 2: to the news desk to saga, we're.

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Speaker 4: A little bit late. But you know, this Lake Kiffin

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Speaker 4: story has got a lot of tentacles to it, so.

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Speaker 8: As far as building a program, and I would add

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Speaker 8: Bill Snyder Kansas State to that list. Yes, we did

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Speaker 8: have number eleven BYU winning at Cincinnati. Tonight's BYU could

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Speaker 8: have taken a knee at the and the opponent was

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Speaker 8: out of timeouts. They were running plays and eventually got

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Speaker 8: a rushing touchdown of over thirty yards as I recall,

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Speaker 8: and then went for two after that and failed. So

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Speaker 8: twenty six fourteen BYU is the final, clearly, assuming that

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Speaker 8: the committee is not watching. At eleven thirty pm, Eastern

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Speaker 8: Bearcats on field goal attempts were zero for three. Now,

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Speaker 8: in BYU's defense, only the top ten ranked teams are

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Speaker 8: guaranteed a playoff spot at this point, and BYU's number eleven,

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Speaker 8: Number twelve Utah came back to beat Kansas State fifty

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Speaker 8: one forty seven, pitt one at number sixteen. Georgia Tech

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Speaker 8: tonight forty two to twenty eight. Wisconsin at home beat

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Speaker 8: Illinois twenty seven to ten. The Ilini were ranked twenty

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Speaker 8: first this week. They are four and four in conference

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Speaker 8: TCU had four turnovers, still got the victory. At number

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Speaker 8: twenty three Houston seventeen fourteen. Today Number seven Oregon beat

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Speaker 8: usc forty two to twenty seven. Eighth ranked Oklahoma over

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Speaker 8: Missouri seventeen to six. We had wins for North Texas,

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Speaker 8: James Ma Addison, and Tulane. One of those could be

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Speaker 8: in the playoff. Number twenty five Arizona State now leading

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Speaker 8: forty two seventeen.

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Speaker 4: At Colorado with about a minute to go.

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Speaker 8: Colorado's going to fold a one in seven in the

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Speaker 8: Big Twelve Conference, and we have three late games. Mid

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Speaker 8: second quarter at the Rose Bowl, Washington leads UCLA ten

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Speaker 8: to nothing in the second quarter. Fresno State now ahead

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Speaker 8: ten to seven over Utah State, and San Diego State's

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Speaker 8: playing on FS one. The Aztecs eight and two this year.

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Speaker 8: They led eleven nothing after the first quarter, now eleven

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Speaker 8: three against San Jose State with about four minutes to

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Speaker 8: go in the second. Smu is six and one in

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Speaker 8: the ACC after the win over Louisville thirty eight to six.

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Speaker 8: Duke won at North Carolina thirty two to twenty five.

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Speaker 8: Bill Belichicks Tar Heels two and five in league play

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Speaker 8: and in an ACC game tonight at Stanford Cardinal beat

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Speaker 8: Rival Cal thirty one to ten. By the way Florida

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Speaker 8: State loss last night at NC State twenty one eleven

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Speaker 8: wolfpeck final to the Big Twelve, Iowa State ripped Kansas.

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Speaker 8: Arizona dominated the second half, beating Baylor, and UCF needed

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Speaker 8: ten points in the fourth quarter to edge Oklahoma State

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Speaker 8: seventeen fourteen. Oklahoma State one in ten winless in the

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Speaker 8: Big Twelve Conference, Yukon nine and three after a forty

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Speaker 8: eight forty five decision at Florida Atlantic. In the NBA today,

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Speaker 8: the Clippers won at Charlotte one thirty one to one sixteen.

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Speaker 8: James Harden fifty five points in thirty five minutes on

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Speaker 8: the court from three point range. He was ten for

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Speaker 8: sixteen wins for Memphis. In Orlando, Atlanta handed New Orleans

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Speaker 8: a ninth straight loss. Chicago edge Washington. The Wizards have

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Speaker 8: lost fourteen in a row. Detroit won its twelfth straight game,

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Speaker 8: this time at Milwaukee, won twenty nine one sixteen as

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Speaker 8: the Piston shot sixty three percent from the floor in

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Speaker 8: the late game. It's at Denver, late third quarter Nuggets

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Speaker 8: ahead of the Sacramento Kings eighty three to seventy nine.

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Speaker 8: The Bengals did not activate quarterback Joe Burrow, so Joe

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Speaker 8: Flacco will start Sunday against the Patriots. He won eight straight.

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Speaker 4: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Sager.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday into Sunday

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Speaker 2: Air Tours. Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio Studios.

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Speaker 4: We will come back.

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Speaker 2: We'll put a bow on a busy Saturday in college football,

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Speaker 2: and of course start looking head to a busy week

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Speaker 2: twelve in the NFL. Er tors Jason Martin, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio er Torris, Jason Martin.

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Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 4: Last game of.

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Speaker 2: Major significance, at least in the college football playoff conversation

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Speaker 2: has gone final number eleven BYU beat Cincinnati twenty six

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Speaker 2: to fourteen, as the saga just mentioned BYU kind of

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Speaker 2: on that CUSP probably still need to win the Big

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Speaker 2: Twelve Championship.

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Speaker 4: You know, it depends on what happens next week.

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Speaker 2: There's obviously if teams ahead of them lose, that could

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Speaker 2: be a different conversation. But even at ten to one,

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Speaker 2: probably have to have to win the Big Twelve to

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Speaker 2: get into the College Football Playoff. If they beat UCF

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Speaker 2: next week, they are in the Big twelve Championship game.

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Speaker 2: Really quick, Jmart just wanted to rip through the rankings,

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Speaker 2: but more specifically, I guess I don't really want to

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Speaker 2: rip through the rankings. Let's just talk about the big

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Speaker 2: conversation in the rankings.

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Speaker 4: I'm curious for your perspective.

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Speaker 2: First of all, Alabama fans were not happy falling to

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Speaker 2: number ten behind Notre Dame after the loss this past week.

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Speaker 2: Alabama at number ten good news for Alabama. They play

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Speaker 2: the Iron Bowl this weekend. If they win the Iron Bowl,

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Speaker 2: they'll go to the SEC Championship Game. I can't see

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Speaker 2: a world where they're not in the playoff if they

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Speaker 2: win the Iron Bowl. Did want to ask you just

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious about your perspective on the Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: Miami conundrum. And I'll be quick on this, but Miami

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Speaker 2: and Notre Dame are both nine and two. Miami's currently

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Speaker 2: ranked thirteenth, Notre Dame ninth, and we all know they

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Speaker 2: played in Week one and Miami has the head to

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Speaker 2: head win over Notre Dame. I bring it up because

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Speaker 2: as Miami continues to win, and certainly as Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: continues to win, this seems to be the topic that

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Speaker 2: is going to take over these conversations over these next

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Speaker 2: couple weeks. Miami closes at pitt next week, Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: closes at Stanford. If they both win, they'll both finish

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Speaker 2: ten and two. It's worth noting right now Miami actually

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Speaker 2: needs a lot of help to get into the get

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Speaker 2: into the ACC Championship game. And so I just bring

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Speaker 2: it up because I'm curious for your perspective. Do you believe,

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Speaker 2: like you know, Notre Dame has the head to head

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Speaker 2: win or excuse me, Miami has the head to head win.

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Speaker 2: They have to be in Do you have a strong

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Speaker 2: opinion yet? Do you need to see what happens next week?

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Speaker 2: What is your take on what is quickly becoming a

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Speaker 2: very interesting talking point in the playoff rankings.

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Speaker 3: I don't like the problem. I mean, obviously, both teams

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Speaker 3: have a couple of blemishes that they can go back

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Speaker 3: and say, well, that one cost us, But the fact

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Speaker 3: that Miami beat them head to head and they have

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Speaker 3: the same record, are we just looking at who you

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Speaker 3: lost to and also not including But here's the problem.

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Speaker 3: I think we know this now because they're so little overlap.

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Speaker 3: Because there's so many teams even within conferences, it's hard

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Speaker 3: to stack them and say this team is better than

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Speaker 3: this team because a lot of them play different opponents

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Speaker 3: and you can dodge some of the toughest teams in

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Speaker 3: your conference one year, get lucky with that, and that

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Speaker 3: ends up favoring you when it gets to the end.

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Speaker 3: But in this case, like Notre Dame has been playing

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Speaker 3: really really solid football this last three four weeks. But

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Speaker 3: at the same time, it's never going to escape me

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Speaker 3: that Miami beat them yep to open the season. Now,

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Speaker 3: it was a three point game, and their only other

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Speaker 3: loss was to A and M, which has become a

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Speaker 3: better loss as the season has gone on, and they

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Speaker 3: lost that game by one. They lost that game forty

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Speaker 3: one to forty, and then they pretty much demolished almost

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Speaker 3: everybody since next week, Miami's gonna get a better opportunity

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Speaker 3: because they have a better opponent in Pitt. But Notre

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Speaker 3: Dame already beat Pitt this year, So you know, I

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Speaker 3: don't I don't know that I'm hand ringing the way

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Speaker 3: that some are about this, but I do think the

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Speaker 3: fact that Miami has beaten them head to head, it's

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Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna it's gonna feel real bad if they

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Speaker 3: end up with the same record. Notre Dame's in and

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Speaker 3: Miami's out because they can't find a way to the

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Speaker 3: AEC Championship game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm with you. I think I'd like

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Speaker 4: to see the last data.

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Speaker 2: Point before I make any definitive takes going into next week.

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Speaker 4: But it'll be interesting.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that kind of stinks Miami not really

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Speaker 2: in position to make the ACC Championship game. So it's

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Speaker 2: like the ACC might actually get two bids out of

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Speaker 2: all this. Fox Sports Radio Era Torres Jason Martin broadcasting

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Speaker 2: live for the Fox Sports Radio Dars come Back NFL

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills, They're a mess.

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Speaker 2: It is midnight Eastern. Here fun night for you. Bernie

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Speaker 2: Fratto about an hour from now, will join us. F

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Speaker 2: one is in Vegas. Shadoor Sanders, who will talk about

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Speaker 2: in a few minutes, is in Vegas, and of course

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Speaker 2: Ohio State Michigan next week. And I cannot wait to

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Speaker 2: hear what Bernie Fratto has to say about that. We

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Speaker 2: Get back to college football in a little bit. All

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Speaker 2: of the major games of note are final. We do

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Speaker 2: have an interesting Big ten game at the Rose Bowl

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Speaker 2: Washington up twenty to nothing on usc Washington looking to

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Speaker 2: improve to our UCLA looking to improve to eight and three.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Washington plays Oregon next week. I think Oregon's

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Speaker 2: in even if they lose that game, but probably.

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Speaker 4: Don't want to. Washington up twenty to nothing.

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Speaker 2: All right, jamar, let's switch gears and let's talk a

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Speaker 2: little bit of NFL Week twelve got underway on Thursday night.

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Speaker 4: It was not pretty for the Buffalo Bills. They go

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Speaker 4: to Houston.

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Speaker 2: They end up losing the game twenty three to nineteen

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Speaker 2: in a game in which the Houston Texans sacked Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen eight times. Buffalo Bills fall to seven and four overall,

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Speaker 2: and the losses weren't I'm starting to notice a pattern here.

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Speaker 2: You lose to the Texans with Davis Mills, you lose

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Speaker 2: to the Atlanta Falcons, obviously, the Patriots loss is looking

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Speaker 2: better and better. You also lost to the Miami freaking Dolphins.

865
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: I bring it up to say, man, I listen, I'll

866
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 2: just I got a lot of takes on the Buffalo Bills.

867
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna open up the floor to you. Is it

868
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 2: time to panic? Is it time for change? Is this

869
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: just part of the life cycle of a season. What

870
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: did you make a Thursday night at NRG Stadium.

871
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 3: Everything's fine, man, Okay, everything, Just bring give Sean McDermott

872
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: a lifetime contract. Everything. Everything's good. The only thing that

873
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 3: they have to do is win the Super Bowl.

874
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 4: Ah, that's it.

875
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: That's it. I said at the beginning of the year,

876
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: I didn't care what this team did in the regular season.

877
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 3: They could go undefeated, I wouldn't care. As long as

878
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: they make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl. I

879
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 3: don't care. I'm not going to overreact to having a

880
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 3: mediocre regular season as long as they go do what

881
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 3: they're supposed to do in January. If they fail in January,

882
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: that combined with a mediocre season, probably will be the

883
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: end of Sean McDermott. If they don't, you know, if

884
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 3: they go to the playoffs and win the Super Bowl,

885
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 3: then no one's having this conversation because they all of

886
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: a sudden become this year's version of Ryan Days Ohio

887
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: State from twenty twenty four. That pretty much he was done,

888
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: it felt like in many respects, at least among the

889
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: fan base right him until he dominated the College Football

890
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 3: Playoff and his team won the National Championship, and they

891
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 3: still haven't found a way to lose since that streak began,

892
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 3: up to and including the eleven to zero record that

893
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 3: they possess right now. So I look at it from

894
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: that standpoint and I just say, as long as they

895
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl, there's nothing wrong here. Nothing. I'm

896
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: not going to overreact just because I said again, like

897
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: if I wasn't going to really call them the greatest

898
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 3: team on earth because they were undefeated right now, I'm

899
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: certainly not going to bury them. Is it impressive? No,

900
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 3: I just don't care because this team's regular season meaningless.

901
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 3: As long as they make the playoffs, They're probably not

902
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: gonna win their division, which makes their path tougher. But

903
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give them way. I'll pick up for J.

904
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: Mart right there.

905
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 4: I think we lost them for half a second. So

906
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 4: I think what J.

907
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: Martin said is one hundred percent accurate. I have not

908
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 2: been a Sean McDermott guy. I have said for two

909
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: to three seasons that I think that he is not

910
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: the answer, and I don't disagree with kind of what

911
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: you said, J. Mart I do think it's concerning, And

912
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: let me say this, I think the number one sign

913
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: because because j Martin, the whole argument for keeping Sean

914
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: McDermott is like the locker room loves him.

915
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 4: He hasn't lost the locker room.

916
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: One of these years they're gonna break through it. You're

917
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: gonna be case and it's all gonna be well and good.

918
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:48,479
Speaker 3: Well.

919
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: The number one sign of actually losing a locker room,

920
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 2: in my opinion, is, you know, beyond just actual wins

921
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 2: and losses, it's who are you beating? Who are you

922
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: not beating and how are you beating them? What is

923
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: the manner in which you're beating them?

924
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 3: Right?

925
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 4: And so to me, the Bills are winning the big games.

926
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 4: They beat the.

927
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: Bucks last week, Josh Allen was incredible, they beat the Chiefs,

928
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: so a couple weeks before that, you know, they started

929
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: out pretty well, including that big win over the Ravens

930
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 2: early in the year. But when it's ebbs and flows,

931
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: peaks and valleys, and you're not getting up for the

932
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 2: big games and the little things are starting to become

933
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 2: big things, that to me is when you lose a

934
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: locker room. And so, I you know, it can be

935
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: as blunt as if they don't win the super Bowl,

936
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 2: if they don't make the Super Bowl, then it's time

937
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: to kind of reshuffle the deck and start over. But

938
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: I think that there are signs now that like, like,

939
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: you lose to the Dolphins, Okay, you lose to the Falcons, Okay,

940
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 2: you lose to the Texans, Okay, individually, but now it's

941
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: you're basically losing every time that you can show up,

942
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: like every time that you could kind of see on

943
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: the schedule, oh maybe they'll show up flat.

944
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 4: They do.

945
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: And so this is now three times in about the

946
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: last six seven weeks that they've shown up completely flat,

947
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: completely unready to play. And so, yeah, it could be

948
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: as simple as if they don't make the super Bowl,

949
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: it's over. But I also think it's it's the things

950
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: leading up to it, which is, you know, just these

951
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: games that they're supposed to be taking care of business,

952
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: they're just not doing it.

953
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I don't know exactly where I cut up.

954
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 3: I just tend to feel like they have a chance

955
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: for the Ohio State redemption arc where Ryan's entire fan

956
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 3: base is ready to kick him to the curb, and

957
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 3: then they won the national title and now they're eleven

958
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 3: and a zero this year going on. If Shuey Dermott

959
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 3: is able to take that team to the super Bowl,

960
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 3: then a lot of this is going to be forgotten about.

961
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 3: It's going to be moot. And if they don't, and

962
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 3: then you add to that a mediocre season, it's gonna

963
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: be much easier to move on from him. And I

964
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 3: think that that's going to be the decision that's made,

965
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 3: and that might be better for that team going forward.

966
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 3: But here's the other thing, and maybe this is around

967
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 3: the time I cut out, they get no they get

968
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: no sympathy from me for having to go on the

969
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 3: road for every playoff game. I still expect them to win.

970
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: That's that's it, because they've put themselves in a spot

971
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: by just what you said, playing down to the competition

972
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: and certainly not being able to handle strong defenses. Their

973
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 3: offensive line against Houston's defense was an atrocity on Thursday night,

974
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 3: Absolutely atrocity. And you know, Josh Allen can only do

975
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 3: so much for your football team, and you look at

976
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 3: him and he seems out manned and outgunned in a

977
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 3: lot of these games. And so if they have to

978
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 3: go on the road because of what they've done during

979
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 3: the regular season, I expect him to win every game.

980
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 3: Or it's going to be the same critique coming out

981
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 3: of this. They've put themselves in this situation, and they've

982
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 3: watched Mike Rabel come into New England with Drake May

983
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 3: and start to run away with that division. Now there's

984
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: still games to play, and we'll see. Maybe the Patriots

985
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 3: hit a wall. I don't know. I don't really sense that,

986
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 3: but Buffalo has put themselves in a spot where from

987
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: week to week you cannot trust them. As a matter

988
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 3: of fact, that team that's been their boogieman in the

989
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 3: playoffs is identical. Well, the Chiefs are also another team

990
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 3: that from week to week you cannot trust, which is

991
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 3: why I don't make blanket statements about the Kansas City

992
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 3: Chiefs at all anymore, because I don't know which team

993
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 3: is going to show up.

994
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, and I think that's you know, listen, I

995
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 2: know that's seven and four and being in position to

996
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: get a wild card is not like a failure of

997
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 2: a season, and there's still a lot of football to

998
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: be played, most notably in the postseason. I do think

999
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 2: if the Chiefs were vintage Chiefs or what they have been,

1000
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 2: I think this would actually look and be talked about

1001
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: a lot different because I do think there is a

1002
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 2: perception of exactly what you just said. Hey, it's can

1003
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 2: you get over the hump? What happens when you make

1004
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: the playoffs?

1005
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 3: All that.

1006
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 2: But I also think like if the Chiefs were ten

1007
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: and two and the Bill or not ten and two,

1008
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: I guess they'd be you know, eight and two, nine

1009
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: and two, whatever, they'd be. The Bills were seven and

1010
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 2: four and reeling, I think this would look a lot worse.

1011
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: But because the Chiefs aren't very good, because a lot

1012
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 2: of the teams that we expected to be good are struggling, Like,

1013
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: I think this is being understated. The difference between the

1014
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: Chiefs and the Bills is that the Chiefs have multiple

1015
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: rings on their finger. The difference between the Eagles being

1016
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: seemingly a mess behind the scenes is that they have

1017
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: a ring on their finger.

1018
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 4: And so I just think it's fascinating.

1019
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 2: And I do think to your point, it's just it's

1020
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: Super Bowl or bust. It's when the AFC or bust,

1021
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 2: and if not, I think changes have to be made, man,

1022
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: you know, I.

1023
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 3: Mean it's a definition of insanity at some point. I mean, well, yeah,

1024
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: eventually you have to do something else. Even if MC

1025
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 3: Dermott's not a bad coach. It's like, all right, coach man,

1026
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 3: this we have found our steiling for this. I hope

1027
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 3: you go win a Super Bowl somewhere else, and we

1028
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 3: got to move on. We've got to try something different here.

1029
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 3: And it can't just be a new OC. It can't

1030
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 3: be like that. We've done that already. And Josh has

1031
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 3: been good with all of them. But dude, and especially this,

1032
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: I mean mcderott's defensive coordinator, and the Bills defense hasn't

1033
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 3: been good, right, Caul. That's the other.

1034
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: Part, no, And I think the other thing too with

1035
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: that is, you know, Josh Allen is going to be

1036
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 2: thirty at the start of next football season. And you know,

1037
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: I think Tom Brady and and all these guys, Drew Brees,

1038
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, like, I think they've given us this misperception

1039
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 2: of like how long guys can play at an elite level.

1040
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: And I know Aaron Rodgers I wouldn't say is that an

1041
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: elite level? But but whatever, Josh Allen's different and he

1042
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: takes so many big hits and it's like, I just

1043
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 2: I don't know how many like like like let me

1044
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: ask you this, how many like great vintage peak Josh

1045
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 2: Allen years do we think he has left? Because again,

1046
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 2: I understand some guys can play into their late thirties

1047
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: early forties, but I think we're talking what two, three, like.

1048
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 2: I don't think it's like six more years.

1049
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 3: I was gonna say five, you think, but maybe maybe

1050
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 3: yours already seeing a bit of a decline at that

1051
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 3: point in time because of the manner in which he

1052
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 3: plays like he's not gonna have the longevity of a

1053
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 3: guy that doesn't put his body on the line, because

1054
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 3: he does put his body on the line. Now, he's

1055
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 3: big and strong and all that, and he hasn't dealt

1056
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 3: with a ton of injuries, but eventually that's probably gonna

1057
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 3: bite him, and that's gonna probably kind of set the

1058
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 3: stage for his decline. What's his age right now? Usually

1059
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 3: a quarterback peaks at age twenty nine.

1060
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 2: So he's literally twenty nine right now. He'll be thirty

1061
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: okay next season?

1062
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 3: So okay, all right, Well maybe maybe five, and you

1063
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: take the under, so maybe it's four. Maybe that's your

1064
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 3: argument's pretty good at two to three, so maybe I'll

1065
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 3: drop it to four. I still think he's got a

1066
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 3: presidential cycle in him, of peak football. But I do

1067
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: think that there will eventually be there's eventually going to

1068
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 3: start being regret of man, how many could we have won?

1069
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1070
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 9: If?

1071
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 3: And you know that's not what you want because unfortunately

1072
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 3: the Bills are used to that well.

1073
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: And the only other thing I would say is not

1074
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: peak Josh Allen still in twenty you know, thirty one

1075
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 2: might be the best quarterback in the NFL. But it's

1076
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 2: just like, you know, we all watch the games. It's

1077
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: like the amount of hits that he take and you know,

1078
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Speaker 2: I'll say this Thursday, let me ask you this, just

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00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 2: random question. Thursday was one of the first times that

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00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: it was like he looked overwhelmed. There's been so yeah,

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00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: so many times where you know, don't matter how good

1082
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 2: the defense is, who's on the defense, how many Hall

1083
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: of Famers, whatever, he just makes it work.

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00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 4: And Thursday it was.

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00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: Just like he had no time, you know, when he

1086
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 2: was scrambling, he wasn't breaking tackles, you know, whatever Demiko

1087
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: Ryans did behind the scenes. But that was one of

1088
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 2: the few times that I can vividly remember being like, oh, like,

1089
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 2: he's not Superman today, and it's not his fault. It's

1090
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 2: just that the defense is that good?

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00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, Demiko Ryans knows what he's doing, first

1092
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 3: of all. We know that. And they used to get

1093
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 3: out to get after the quarterback in San Francisco when

1094
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 3: he was there, and they're getting after the quarterback now.

1095
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 3: But the Josh Allen that I saw late in that

1096
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 3: game Thursday was one that looked high. He just looked beaten,

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00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 3: like there was just a look on his face of

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00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 3: kind of bewilderment, like I don't know what I'm supposed

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00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 3: to do. And that I think that backs up your

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00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 3: overwhelmed point, Like he knew he could not trust this protection,

1101
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 3: and Houston knew he couldn't trust this protection, and it

1102
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 3: was a recipe for disaster, and that's why you got

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00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 3: the result that you did.

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00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 2: The result was a sloppy loss. Credit, you know, I

1105
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 2: guess credit to the Houston Texans. I don't know how

1106
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: much it means a big picture for their season. They

1107
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 2: are very much in the playoff race though, and it's

1108
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: worth noting they are one spot right now, the Houston

1109
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 2: Texans sitting at six and five overall, you know who

1110
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 2: they're ahead of? The five and five Kansas City Chiefs

1111
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 2: h Kansas City. Is it playoffs or bust tomorrow against

1112
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 2: the Colts. We'll discuss that next. Fox Sports Radio Welcome

1113
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 2: back everybody. Fox Sports Radio er Torris Jason Martin broadcasting

1114
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,840
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1118
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1122
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 2: the news desk. Steve de Sager, speaking of takes we

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00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 2: don't like, I'm not cool with Arnie Spanier walking into

1124
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 2: the house that I built gamble pavilion and coming out

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Speaker 2: with a win this weekend. But that's another conversation. He

1126
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 2: was there, you know, I will say I'm exual he

1127
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 2: was at the game. He was, yeah, he was in stores.

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Speaker 4: He left the house. I know it was a minor miracle.

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00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 3: I mean after hitting me up any hur he tore

1130
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 3: something up after the game.

1131
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 2: He did it was a fake mad you come was

1132
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 2: down two starters, but uh yeah, he only left the

1133
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 2: house after begging me to help him get tickets for

1134
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 2: like three straight weeks and then finally just plunging in

1135
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 2: paying full price. I'm like, I literally haven't been in

1136
00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: Connecticut in fifteen years.

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00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 4: I don't know anybody. I'm sorry.

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00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 8: And how did he get tickets? Because that was the

1139
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 8: on campus game, right, they didn't go to part for

1140
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 8: it for that.

1141
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 3: Wouldn't you think he would know somebody at Arizona?

1142
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was what I said. I was like, yeah,

1143
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 2: call you want to know how to And that was

1144
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 2: the thing. How do I know where the Arizona seats are?

1145
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, call the school. I don't work in the

1146
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: ticket office at eCOM, but he.

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00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 4: Was there and he saw it, but you don't. I don't.

1148
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: I that'd be a heck of a double dip, be

1149
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 2: a tough commute, I'm not gonna lie. Not a lot

1150
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 2: of direct flights from Burbank to stores, you know, back

1151
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: and forth.

1152
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 4: But well, it was entertaining the college game.

1153
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 8: Earlier this week, we've got three late games in college football.

1154
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 8: Washington leads at UCLA twenty to nothing. One of those

1155
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 8: touchdowns was a scoop and score when UCLA tried that

1156
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 8: fake field goal. Well, the holder is still on one

1157
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 8: knee and he slips the ball over his shoulder. Yeah,

1158
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 8: not a good flip. Washington picked it up, ran the

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00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 8: other way twenty to nothing. Huskies at the half at

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00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 8: the Rose Bowl. Fresno stayed at home, leads seventeen to

1161
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 8: seven against Utah State, and early third quarter at San

1162
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 8: Diego State, the Aztecs, already eight and two this year,

1163
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 8: are leading eighteen three against San Jose State. Josh Allen

1164
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 8: was at Wyoming today seeing his jersey retired. Wyoming lost

1165
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 8: at home to Nevada thirteen to seven. It was Boise

1166
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 8: State winning tonight forty nine twenty one against Colorado State,

1167
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 8: and last night UNLV went to nine and two with

1168
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 8: a victory over Hawaii thirty eight to ten. Today Number

1169
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,439
Speaker 8: seven Oregon defeated USC forty two to twenty seven. Eighth

1170
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Speaker 8: ranked to Oklahoma got a home win against Missouri seventeen

1171
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 8: to six. Number eleven BYU won tonight twenty six fourteen

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00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 8: at Cincinnati. It was twenty to fourteen with a minute

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00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 8: to go. Twelfth rank Utah was trailing in the fourth

1174
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 8: quarter and still won fifty one forty seven to Kansas

1175
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 8: State and Pittsburgh won in an upset at number sixteen

1176
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 8: Georgia Tech tonight forty two to twenty eight. Wisconsin beat

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00:57:55,840 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 8: Illinois twenty seven ten. TCU won at Houston seventeen. Fourteen

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00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 8: wins for Tulane, North Texas and James Madison, one of

1179
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 8: them could be in the College Football Playoff. Northwestern played

1180
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 8: at Wrigley Field again and got a late field goal

1181
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 8: to edge Minnesota thirty eight thirty five. Iowa needed thirteen

1182
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 8: points in the fourth quarter, getting a forty four yard

1183
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 8: field goal as time expired to edge Michigan State twenty

1184
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 8: to seventeen. Spartans oh to eight. In Conference Penn State

1185
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 8: was one and six in the Big Ten, but rolled

1186
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 8: in Nebraska tonight thirty seven to ten. Kennesaw State six

1187
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 8: and one in Conference USA after beating Missouri State. LSU

1188
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Speaker 8: at home edged Western Kentucky thirteen to ten.

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Speaker 4: That year.

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00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 3: We're so close.

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Speaker 8: Yes, this was a Western Kentucky team that was eight

1192
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 8: and two coming in.

1193
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 4: This was an LSU team that was preseason top five.

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00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 8: It's an LSU team that is six and one at

1195
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 8: home and yet, yeah, these kind of games. Yale at

1196
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 8: home beat Harvard forty five twenty eight to win the

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00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 8: Ivy League, and Lee High is twelve and zero after

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00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 8: winning at rival Lafayette. In the late NBA game, ten

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Speaker 8: seconds left Sacramento holding on to a lead at Denver

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00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 8: one twenty six, one twenty three despite forty four points

1201
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 8: from Nicola Jokic, James Harden scored fifty five points and

1202
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 8: the Clippers win at Charlotte Today one thirty one, one

1203
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 8: sixteen victories from Memphis and Orlando. Atlanta sent New Orleans

1204
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 8: to a ninth straight loss. Chicago edge Washington by a point.

1205
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 8: Wizards have lost fourteen in a row. Detroit won its

1206
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 8: twelfth straight game, a victory at Milwaukee one twenty nine

1207
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 8: to one sixteen. Very sad news that former acc Player

1208
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 8: the Year Rodney Rodgers passed away at the age of

1209
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 8: fifty four. He'd been paralyzed since an accident in two

1210
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 8: thousand and eight. Rogers from Wake Forest was the NBA's

1211
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 8: sixth Man of the Year in two thousand.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Sager, Fox

1213
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday in the Sunday er towards

1214
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios

1215
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: to Seger, Will are you join us in about ten

1216
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 2: or so minutes from now fifteen minutes for his extended update.

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Speaker 3: Real quick, Aeron, Ye, I was just real fast. You

1218
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 3: can't understand how much people loved Rodney Rogers. Yeah. I

1219
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 3: lived in Winston Sale and through his whole career saw

1220
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 3: him play many times in person. Just he was larger

1221
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 3: than life in Winston Sale. And it's just that that's

1222
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 3: a tragic story with the accident that he had and

1223
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Speaker 3: dying at fifty four. But I mean, he was just

1224
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 3: he was kind of like the first of the great

1225
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 3: wake Forest players that came during the nineties. You had him,

1226
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 3: and then you had Randolph Childress, of course, but then

1227
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 3: you would eventually, of course, get Tim Duncan and Chris

1228
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 3: Paul and some of the guys that would come after.

1229
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 3: Rogers was like one of those guys where I first

1230
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 3: really could know the guys that I was watching. Somewhere

1231
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 3: around nineteen eighty seven is probably when I could really

1232
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 3: pick up names. I was about nine years old there,

1233
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 3: so I could start to remember sort of the things

1234
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 3: that I was watching. And Rogers hit very soon after

1235
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 3: I moved to Winston Salem, and he was just I

1236
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 3: just saw that story, and my heart broke when I

1237
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 3: saw it because I just remember so many fond memories

1238
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 3: of what a talent he was.

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01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll be quick on this too, but you know,

1240
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 2: we don't we don't necessarily have to be quick. But

1241
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this is that you know for

1242
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 2: me'm I think I'm a few years younger than you,

1243
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 2: and my like first conscious memories were like, like the

1244
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 2: first memories that I have of like kind of understanding

1245
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 2: sports enough to like be able to contextualize things was

1246
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: right around that nineteen ninety three NBA draft, Like I

1247
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 2: remember the Orlando Magic winning back to back lotteries, if

1248
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 2: you remember, and it was like, oh.

1249
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 4: My god, they wanted to get after they got shack.

1250
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 2: And then it was like, you know, they're trading the

1251
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 2: pick and so like these were all things that were

1252
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,959
Speaker 2: kind of new to me, like, oh, you can trade

1253
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 2: picks and what's the NBA draft lottery and all that.

1254
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 2: And I bring it up because he was part of

1255
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 2: that draft and so so I don't remember him as

1256
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 2: the college play and by the way, Vin Baker, and

1257
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to make this all about Connecticut, but

1258
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 2: Vin Baker went to University of Harford. You could literally

1259
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 2: walk to the University of Harford campus from where I grew,

1260
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 2: like my house in Connecticut. University of Hartford's in West Harford, Connecticut,

1261
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 2: you know, ten minute walk from my house. So I

1262
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 2: bring it up because that was like the first conscious

1263
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 2: like memories that I have of sports and this and that.

1264
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: And Rodney Rodgers was part of that nineteen ninety three

1265
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 2: draft class, going number nine overall to the Denver Nuggets.

1266
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Speaker 2: So I don't remember him as a college player. I

1267
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 2: remember him as an NBA player. And I'll be honest,

1268
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 2: like when I saw the news today, it was obviously tragic,

1269
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 2: and I knew about the accident. I'll be honest with

1270
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 2: about I didn't realize how good of a college player

1271
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 2: he was. I knew, you know, back in those days,

1272
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: like you know, you had to be like a.

1273
01:02:58,360 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 4: Really good multi.

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01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't like now we're, oh, you averaged seven a

1275
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 2: game at Duke, but you know, we like your high

1276
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 2: school highlights, so we're gonna draft you ninth overall. You know,

1277
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: it was you had to perform. So I think I was.

1278
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 2: I knew that he was probably a good college player.

1279
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 2: I didn't realize acc Rookie of the Year, ACC Player

1280
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 2: of the Year and then to your point, Jmart kind

1281
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 2: of begat that era of wake Forest basketball, which I

1282
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 2: very much remember with Tim Duncan and all those guys.

1283
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so not to do realist, but I thought that

1284
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 3: deserve mentioned just yeah, like like I said, you were

1285
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 3: probably a little too young to have seen it, and

1286
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 3: that makes complete sense. But he was just one of

1287
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 3: those like lunch pale, blue collar guys that did everything well.

1288
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 3: And yeah, he kind of put Wake Forest basketball sort

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Speaker 3: of on the map to where it became a destination.

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Speaker 3: And of course you get a Dave Odom in there

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Speaker 3: and you start to bring in better recruits and then

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Speaker 3: for a time there, Wake Forest was a real force.

1293
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Speaker 3: And remember, to be ACC Rookie of the Year at

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Speaker 3: that point you meant something because ACC basketball at that

1295
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 3: point was absolutely inane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, And it was funny because I actually thought

1297
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 2: of when dis Segre gave that update, I thought of you,

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Speaker 2: knowing you grew up in that area, and so I'm

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Speaker 2: glad you took a half a second to share because

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Speaker 2: it was actually something that was kind of on my

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01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: mind knowing you know that you grew up in that

1302
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 2: era of acc Basketball and Rodney Rogers ninth overall pick

1303
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 2: in the nineteen ninety three NBA draft did pass away today,

1304
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: as you know, not not an easy way to transition.

1305
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 2: But let's talk about a couple NFL drafts or NFL stories.

1306
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: Excuse me heading into this full slate of games on

1307
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 2: Sunday and Monday. You know, we mentioned this a minute

1308
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 2: ago when we were talking to Buffalo Bills. But part

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01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills kind of struggling at seven and

1310
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 2: four with some bad losses to Miami and Houston, why

1311
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 2: it's probably not being talked about as much as a

1312
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 2: disappointing season is because the Kansas City Chiefs, sitting at

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01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 2: five and five, lost year Denver Broncos last week at

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Speaker 2: you know that, I called it mile Heagh Stadium. I

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Speaker 2: don't even know what it's called anymore, but they lose

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Speaker 2: in Denver. They now host the Indianapolis Colts. They fall

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Speaker 2: to five and sixth j Mart.

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Speaker 4: It is going.

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Speaker 2: By the way, if the playoffs started today and I

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Speaker 2: know it's only week thirteen, whatever I get it, they

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01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: would or week twelve, excuse me, they would not be

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01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. They are on the outside looking in

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01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 2: at five and five, you lose to the Indianapolis Colts,

1324
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 2: it is going to be some major uphill sledding to

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Speaker 2: get into the playoffs if you're the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Cults are good, and Jonathan Taylor is

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Speaker 3: you know, at least sort of an outside MVP candidate

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01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 3: right now, and it's not like the Chief's done a

1329
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 3: great job stopping to run this year, and they've just

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01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 3: been very inconsistent on what they've been able to do offensively.

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01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 3: Now I don't anticipate that they're going to no show,

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01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 3: but you know, they've lost two games on the road.

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Speaker 3: Now they get to go back home, and maybe that's

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Speaker 3: going to change things. But conceivably, I don't think this

1335
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 3: will be the way it goes. But conceivably, by the

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Speaker 3: evening of November twenty seventh, that's a team that could

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01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 3: be five and seven because they play the Colts on

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01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 3: Sunday and then on Thanksgiving they play at Dallas, and

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01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 3: Dallas is a team that can score points and Dak

1340
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 3: will be ready for that game and what goes on

1341
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:18,439
Speaker 3: there if five and seven going into the last five

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Speaker 3: games of the year, where I think I think probably

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Speaker 3: three wins are almost guaranteed there, but that Texans defense

1344
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 3: is not going to make it easy for you. The

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01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 3: Chargers have something to play for. And then you look

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01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 3: at Denver again. With that defense, I think I'll give

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01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 3: you the Titans and the Raiders without much effort. It

1348
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 3: becomes a bit of a struggle. Like they really can't

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01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 3: afford they need to beat the Colts. They really need

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01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 3: to beat them. They've got them at home, even with

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01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 3: what they've done. They need to impose their will here

1352
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 3: because if they're five and six going into Thanksgiving in Dallas,

1353
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 3: that's a rough way to kind of go towards December.

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01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 3: I know it's Andy Reid and I know it's Patrick Mahomes,

1355
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 3: but at some point we got to look at this

1356
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 3: and say it is what we think it is, and

1357
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 3: it may just be mediocre.

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Speaker 4: No, I agree one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think we're past the point of

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01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 2: return on the Chiefs as far as like we can

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Speaker 2: just assume that they'll figure it out. Now they have

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01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 2: enough time to actually figure it out, and it's kind

1363
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 2: of up to them. But you know, you start to

1364
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 2: look at the resume. Listen, they do have some nice wins,

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01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: you know, most notably against the Giants. But you know

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01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 2: the Giants, okay, you know the Ravens obviously Lamar if

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01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, got hurt during that game the Raiders. Okay,

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01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 2: So anyway, the point I'm trying to make, they desperately

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01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 2: need to win, like you said, because their back is

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01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 2: up against the wall, and I hadn't even factored in, like,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, they have the quick turnaround on Thanksgiving Day

1372
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Speaker 2: with the Cowboys. So great point by you. And you know,

1373
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 2: I think the Cowboys We've discussed a couple of times here.

1374
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 2: You know, they they've been understandably a whipping boy at times.

1375
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 2: But you know, you don't show up ready to play

1376
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 2: that team can beat you this year. Real quick, let's

1377
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: stay with Let's stay with Week twelve of the NFL.

1378
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 2: Shdor Sanders first career start Sunday afternoon in Las Vegas

1379
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 2: against the Las Vegas Raiders. He obviously came in last

1380
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 2: week for Dylan Gabriel, who got a concussion. Four of

1381
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 2: sixteen passing forty seven yards, no touchdowns, one interception. You know,

1382
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 2: it's worth noting because it certainly was a topic of conversation.

1383
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 2: Really had no reps at all with the first team

1384
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 2: prior to last week. Now, there were plenty of discourses

1385
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 2: online about how much a backup generally gets with the

1386
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 2: first team, but he obviously got all the first team

1387
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Speaker 2: reps this week playing a Raiders team that is obviously struggling,

1388
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 2: but it is on the road. Do you have any

1389
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 2: strong opinions on what we should expect to see from

1390
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Speaker 2: Shador Sanders on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about strong opinions. I hope it's better

1392
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,560
Speaker 3: than what we saw last week was rough, and I

1393
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 3: felt like the Ravens just felt like he's not ready

1394
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 3: for this and they're not ready to protect him, and

1395
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 3: they just came at him with everything, and he didn't

1396
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 3: have answers. He looked bad. He just didn't look ready. Yet.

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01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 3: Now this week he's taken all the reps and he's

1398
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 3: known he's the guy, and I sense he will play

1399
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 3: much better, more consistent game. And I will say this,

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01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 3: and I heard this even during the broadcast. I can't

1401
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 3: remember who was doing it and who said this, but

1402
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 3: doing Gabriel, there's a lot of things to like about him,

1403
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 3: but he does not take chances down the field, and

1404
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 3: as such, Cleveland moves the ball, but then eventually it

1405
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 3: stalls out and it's a very conservative soft, not particularly

1406
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 3: dynamic in any way. Offense. One thing you have seen

1407
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 3: from Shude whar Sanders, at least during his college career,

1408
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 3: is kind of that gunslinger mentality. Now he wants to

1409
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,759
Speaker 3: stay in the pocket. He doesn't want to be particularly mobile,

1410
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 3: but he's a guy that wants to throw the ball

1411
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 3: down the field. And if Stefanski will actually open the

1412
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 3: playbook up for him a little bit, I like him

1413
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 3: to make a couple of pretty wow kind of plays

1414
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 3: in this game against the Raiders. And this is a

1415
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 3: team to try it against. Now, Yeah, I would say

1416
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 3: Max Crosby is gonna have something to say, and the

1417
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 3: Raiders may again just try to pressure him to death

1418
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 3: and see if the Browns offensive line can hold up,

1419
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 3: because if they can force him into being uncomfortable, he's

1420
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 3: probably gonna throw three interceptions in this game and that's

1421
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 3: gonna put them behind the eight ball. But just in

1422
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 3: terms of his ability to make big time throws, he

1423
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 3: was able to do that in college, So I'd like

1424
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 3: that's what I really want to see. I want to

1425
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 3: see if Cleveland actually tries to take some chances here,

1426
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 3: because what I would say, is you got nothing to lose,

1427
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 3: play the way Schadour played in college and just see

1428
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 3: what comes from it, because I mean, you're not a

1429
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 3: playoff team. Now see what he's got and if it's nothing,

1430
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 3: then Oki doki. But I don't think that you can

1431
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 3: play him in there and be conservative and expect that

1432
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 3: to work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because you know, I obviously had red

1434
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 2: Zone on. I'm not gonna sit here and lie and

1435
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 2: say that. I was like, you know, locked in on

1436
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 2: Cleveland Baltimore last week.

1437
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 4: But listen, no one was Yeah, well yeah exactly, but

1438
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 4: I mean we.

1439
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 3: Were all watching red Zone. That's how we know what

1440
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 3: happened exactly. Let's just be let's just let's just be real.

1441
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 5: No.

1442
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 2: The reason I bring it up was because you never

1443
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 2: want to see anybody get injured, and I certainly feel

1444
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 2: that way about Dylan Gabriel.

1445
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 4: But it was funny because I was watching I was

1446
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 4: watching this game on.

1447
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 2: Red Zone, and I did have the thought of him, like, Okay,

1448
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 2: maybe there is an argument that Shador Sanders is not

1449
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 2: an NFL quarterback.

1450
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel is not an NFL quarterback either.

1451
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 2: I mean, he just does not have the physical, like

1452
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 2: serviceable backup like you said, Yeah he's a backup.

1453
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah he's he's a very game manager. Put him in

1454
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 3: the game. He's probably not going to throw it to

1455
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 3: the other team seventeen times, but he's also never going

1456
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 3: to make the play that wins the game.

1457
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 2: Yes, And so I was actually thinking that prior to

1458
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 2: the injury. Is you never again be clear, never wishing

1459
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 2: injuries upon anybody, But I did have that thought of

1460
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 2: like at this point, like what do you have to

1461
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 2: lose to put Shador in? Because Dylan Gabriel is not

1462
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 2: the long term answer and he's serviceable and he's fine,

1463
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 2: he's whatever, And so I am curious to see what

1464
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 2: he has and I don't know what he has, and

1465
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 2: it wasn't pretty, as you said, but I am curious

1466
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 2: to see, if you know, if we learn any you know,

1467
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 2: let me put it this way, I'm curious to see

1468
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 2: if we learn anything positive on Sunday because it was

1469
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 2: not pretty last week. I'll also say this to your point,

1470
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 2: it just does not seem like Kevin Stefanski trusts him

1471
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form. So maybe there's an

1472
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 2: offscript player two where he can do what he needs

1473
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 2: to do or prove what he needs to prove. But

1474
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 2: I'm just curious if we learn anything on a positive

1475
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 2: front this week with Shadors.

1476
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 3: So, yeah, we'll find out. I will say that at

1477
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 3: some point it starts to be a Kevin Stefanski problem.

1478
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 3: I agree, Like at some point right like before what

1479
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 3: we're seeing in Minnesota happen. We have seen Stefanski let

1480
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield go yep, And we've seen what's happened at

1481
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 3: the quarterback position since then, and we've seen nobody get

1482
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 3: better as a quarterback there. And he was supposed to

1483
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 3: be this offensive guru. Eventually that needs to stick to him.

1484
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 3: I know you can't change coaches year after year after year,

1485
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 3: but like if I'm Miles Garrett, I'm in the front office, like,

1486
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 3: can we get somebody that can win a game? Do

1487
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 3: you see what I'm doing on defense? Like? How long

1488
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 3: are we going to squander this?

1489
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1490
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 2: No, I don't disagree, and I do think I do

1491
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 2: think that. Listen, I think the discourse on Kevin missus

1492
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski, excuse me, plenty have shared their opinions, but

1493
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 2: I do think like at some point, like you said,

1494
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 2: is like let Shadoor loose. We know Dylan Gabriel is

1495
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 2: not the answer. Even if we don't think Shador's the answer,

1496
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 2: what is the harm in and giving him a shot

1497
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 2: and not only giving him a shot to start, which

1498
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 2: obviously is by default, but I think more importantly giving

1499
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 2: him a shot to see if he's actually the guy.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio air tors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. One guy that I know

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Speaker 2: is the guy. That's Steve Desager. He's gonna have his

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Speaker 2: extended update next Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio aer toards, Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Yes, we are live

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Speaker 2: here at twelve forty eight Eastern time, and as we

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Speaker 2: do at this time every week, let's get it over

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Speaker 2: the news desk. Steve de Sager, what is trending here

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Speaker 2: twelve forty eight Eastern.

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Speaker 8: Well, College football Selection Sunday is not that far away.

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Speaker 8: December seventh is only a couple weeks away. Who will

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Speaker 8: the twelve playoff teams will be? Essentially, it's you're ranked

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Speaker 8: in the top ten at the end, you're in, and

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Speaker 8: then the ACC champion would be in. There is no

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Speaker 8: acc team in the top ten right now, and then

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Speaker 8: the best of the group of five, which could be

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Speaker 8: Tulane or James Madison, which needed a fourth tour touchdown

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Speaker 8: to win against Washington State. North Texas is ten and

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Speaker 8: one as well. BYU's right on the cusp but number

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Speaker 8: eleven in the committee rankings. BYU was ahead at Cincinnati

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Speaker 8: twenty to fourteen tonight with a minute to go. They

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Speaker 8: made sure to score again Lates twenty six to fourteen

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Speaker 8: the final. The Bearcats on field goal attempts oh for

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Speaker 8: three lost at home, missing from forty two yards out,

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Speaker 8: from forty from forty eight yards, then they fumbled at

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Speaker 8: about the BYU twenty yard line. Also in the first half,

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Speaker 8: Cincinnati was stopped on a fourth and one at three

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Speaker 8: and Utah, like BYU, is just out of the top

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Speaker 8: ten twelve ranked Utes were trailing Kansas State forty seven

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Speaker 8: to thirty five was seven minutes to go, and Utah

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Speaker 8: won the game fifty one forty seven. Each team had

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Speaker 8: over five hundred fifty yards of offense. There was a

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Speaker 8: runner for the Wildcats, Joe Jackson on twenty four carries

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Speaker 8: had two hundred and ninety three yards rushing and three scores.

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Speaker 8: In fact, case, as a team four hundred and seventy

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Speaker 8: two yards rushing and they did not win the game.

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Speaker 8: Most rushing yards by a losing team since Army in

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Speaker 8: twenty seventeen. Essentially, the regular season in college football ends

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Speaker 8: next Saturday night. One of the late games will be

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Speaker 8: Notre Dame at Stanford. The late game will be a

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Speaker 8: Hawaii home game against Wyoming. And then the weekend after

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Speaker 8: that is the first weekend of December. It's the conference

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Speaker 8: championship game weekend. We'll have four from the so called

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Speaker 8: lesser conferences on the Friday night, including the Mountain West

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Speaker 8: title game on Fox TV. Those will be at campus

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Speaker 8: sites on that first Friday of December, including James Madison

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Speaker 8: at home in the Sun Belt. Then we'll have the

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Speaker 8: conference title games on the first Saturday, the sixth of December.

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Speaker 8: It'll be finished off by the Fox TV game the

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Speaker 8: Big Ten Championship, which is in Indiana. Indianapolis is hosting that.

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Speaker 8: The Army Navy game is not till mid December, a

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Speaker 8: week after the conference championship games that will be in Baltimore.

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Speaker 8: Among the Top Ten, we had some predictably blowout games

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Speaker 8: and that's what happens when you only play eight conference

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Speaker 8: games like the SEC has had for years. So we

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Speaker 8: had number three Texas A and M hosting Samford, not Stanford, Samford,

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Speaker 8: which is one and eleven.

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Speaker 4: A and M is eleven to.

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Speaker 8: Zero after shutting him out forty eight to nothing, and Friday,

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Speaker 8: A and M will play at Texas. But Samford as

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Speaker 8: a team today thirty one carries thirty one yards rushing,

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Speaker 8: They punted twelve times and only had three first downs

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Speaker 8: in the entire game. At A and M, Samford on

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Speaker 8: third down conversions went zero for fifteen. Marcel read three

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Speaker 8: touchdown passes in the first quarter of this route. Samford

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Speaker 8: had lost its season opener at thirty four to three

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Speaker 8: to West Georgia, so no, they were probably not getting

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Speaker 8: close at A and M today. Number four Georgia hosted

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Speaker 8: and blitzed Charlotte thirty five three. Remember early in the season,

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Speaker 8: and Belichick's North Carolina crew beat Charlotte. Hey, that's a

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Speaker 8: w the first of not many, actually, because Charlotte is

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Speaker 8: one and ten. They lost twenty to three to North

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Speaker 8: Carolina early in the season. They were down twenty eight

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Speaker 8: to nothing at Georgia in the second quarter. Today, Charlotte

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Speaker 8: finished with eight punts seven first downs. Georgia had thirty

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Speaker 8: first downs. Friday, it's Georgia against Georgia Tech in Atlanta.

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Speaker 8: Georgia Tech, ranked sixteenth in the country coming into this weekend,

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Speaker 8: needed a win tonight for its birth in the ACC

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Speaker 8: title game. Georgia Tech was beaten at home by Pitt,

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Speaker 8: which was up twenty eight nothing early second quarter forty

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Speaker 8: two to twenty eighth the final. So three teams are

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Speaker 8: six and one each in the ACC Virginia, Pitt, and SMU.

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Speaker 8: The Georgia Tech defense did have six sacks tonight, but

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Speaker 8: Georgia Tech has now lost two of three this month,

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Speaker 8: blowouts at Notre Dame and at Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Number nine.

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Speaker 8: Notre Dame led Syracuse thirty five nothing in the first

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Speaker 8: quarter seventy to seven the final. The Irish defense with

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Speaker 8: five sacks. Notre Dame has mentioned finishes at Stanford late

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Speaker 8: next Saturday, Jeremiah Love on eight carries, had one hundred

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Speaker 8: and seventy one yards rushing and three touchdowns at Notre

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Speaker 8: Dame Stadium. The offense had only eighteen minutes time of

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Speaker 8: possession and scored seventy points. Number ten Alabama over Eastern

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Speaker 8: Illinois fifty six nothing, Eastern Illinois three and nine. Last

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Speaker 8: week they lost at Lyndon Wood forty two to twelve.

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Speaker 4: So no, exactly, it's your homework. Tonight's say West Georgia.

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Speaker 3: I was like, that's a region that's not a school.

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Speaker 4: Well take it.

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Speaker 8: Take a queue from March Madness. Directional school might not

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Speaker 8: be very good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when it's the six degrees of West Georgia, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if the SEC was really pushing itself.

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Speaker 8: Eastern Illinois at Bama today four of nine passing twenty

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Speaker 8: yards on the ground, thirty carries fourteen yards, so added

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Speaker 8: up they had thirty four yards of total offense for

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Speaker 8: four quarters of today.

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Speaker 2: They just show up and ask for the publisher's clearinghouse

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Speaker 2: check and then just take it neither rest.

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Speaker 3: Of me to get a check.

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Speaker 4: I think we're pretty sure on that one.

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Speaker 3: Ty Simpson.

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Speaker 8: By the way, no touchdowns, two interceptions for Bama. Alabama

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Speaker 8: had eight touchdown runs, no punts. Well, Eastern Illinois had

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Speaker 8: nine punts and only two first downs. Alabama thirty two

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Speaker 8: first downs. Next Saturday, Alabama at Auburn, which is one

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Speaker 8: and six in conference.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Steve di Seger, by the way, kind of bummed. How

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Speaker 2: many big Black Friday games are? I got stuff to

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01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 2: do on Black Friday?

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Speaker 4: Anyway. Fox Sports Radio Air Tours Jason Martin Broadcasting Radio.

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Speaker 4: What's that?

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Speaker 3: Nothing? We'll talk about it in third hour, all right, we.

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Speaker 4: Got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Third hour aer towards Jayson Martin till two am Eastern

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: studios here at one am Eastern. Yes, it is one am.

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Speaker 4: We are live.

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Speaker 2: We did just get another score at the Rose Bowl,

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Speaker 2: Washington up thirty four and to nothing on the UCLA

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Speaker 2: Bruins Washington looking to improve to eight and three. They

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Speaker 2: face Oregon next Saturday. By the way, little blast from

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Speaker 2: the past, Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto Show will

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Speaker 2: join us at ten twenty Pacific one to twenty eastern,

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Speaker 2: so about twenty minutes from now. We sedat Bernie on

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01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 2: every Saturday night, but you know that was what we

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Speaker 2: were doing. Four hours. We had a little bit more

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01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 2: time for guests. But Bernie follows US, and you know,

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Speaker 2: Vegas is the epicenter of the sports world right now,

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Speaker 2: not to mention that Ohio State Michigan is next week.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's more plugged in with the Michigan Wolverines Big Ten

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01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 2: Football than Bernie so excited to talk about him. Matter

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Speaker 2: of fact, Jmar you know, we talked about whatever you

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Speaker 2: want to call today slate in our one. If anybody missed,

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Speaker 2: you could go back and download the podcast. I do

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Speaker 2: think it's worth and we talked about this a little

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Speaker 2: bit last week. Michigan has to be the quietest nine

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Speaker 2: and two team in the history of college football. They

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Speaker 2: take care of Maryland in convincing fashion today and you know, listen,

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Speaker 2: I think this is a little bit of the byproduct

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Speaker 2: of the Big Ten schedule. They don't play when this

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Speaker 2: is not to dismiss them, but they didn't play Oregon.

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Speaker 2: You know, Penn State is obviously a marquee game even

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01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 2: though the team isn't good. They didn't play them. But

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Speaker 2: Michigan sitting at nine and two, their only losses at

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Speaker 2: USC at Oklahoma, did beat Nebraska, did beat Washington and.

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Speaker 4: Very quietly, or at least it feels quiet.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it won't be quiet by the time we get

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Speaker 2: to next Saturday, coming in at nine and two, as

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Speaker 2: they're sitting, of course, on that ho hum four game

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Speaker 2: winning streak with Ohio State coming into next next weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like, I'm not. It's not that you're unimpressed with

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Speaker 3: two losses, but there's nothing about them makes me think

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Speaker 3: they're all that great. H a whole lot of football games.

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Speaker 3: I think that streak's coming to an end with Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: If it doesn't, man, we really are going to be

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Speaker 3: talking about a boogey man that they can't go away

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Speaker 3: for Ryan Day at this point in time. But like,

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Speaker 3: let's say Michigan does end up in the playoff, it's

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Speaker 3: not that's not a team I expect to do much

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Speaker 3: of anything. I don't know what, Like, I don't even

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Speaker 3: know what this season registers ask for them. Like there's

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Speaker 3: some schools where are like, oh, this is a success,

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Speaker 3: this is a failure. And you can already say that

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Speaker 3: for some of the schools that didn't come into the

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Speaker 3: season with championship aspirations but have overperformed, Like if Vanderbilt

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Speaker 3: misses the College Football Playoff, it's still a successful year

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Speaker 3: for Vanderbilt. But like Michigan. I don't know what this

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Speaker 3: season like because I don't exactly know. Did you have

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Speaker 3: them in the playoff at the beginning of the year.

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Speaker 4: No, I did not, And you know I'll say I didn't. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 4: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: And and in all so, you know, I thought I

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Speaker 2: was flipping channels again, almost like the Browns Ravens game

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Speaker 2: that we mentioned a minute ago. I'd be lying if

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Speaker 2: I said that, I, like you know, was sitting there

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Speaker 2: with a notepad taking vigorous notes on a forty five

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Speaker 2: to twenty win for Michigan. But I bring it up

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Speaker 2: because they did bring up an interesting point during the broadcast,

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Speaker 2: which is that you know, they compared obviously the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three title team to this year as far as

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Speaker 2: you know total snaps and and this and that, and obviously,

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Speaker 2: look Bryce Underwood, true freshman, the running back that is

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Speaker 2: now forced into action in Bryson Kudzel as a thirty

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Speaker 2: year junior that really didn't get any significant snaps before

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Speaker 2: this year. Their best wide receiver is a true freshman.

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Speaker 2: And so your question about Michigan coming into the year.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Nico Iamaliavo was just benched at the

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Speaker 2: Rose Bowl although actually I think he's in the tent.

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Speaker 4: I hope he's okay. UCLA trails thirty four to nothing.

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Speaker 2: So with with Michigan, not only did I not have

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Speaker 2: him in the playoff, like like to me, and I

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Speaker 2: don't I can't speak for Misskin fans. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what their expectation was. My whole thing with them this

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Speaker 2: year was just, Hey, prove to me that Bryce Underwood

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Speaker 2: is the guy, and build towards basically next year and

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Speaker 2: certainly his junior year, right, Like you knew he was

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Speaker 2: gonna when they signed him, He's obviously gonna start. It's

1712
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 2: just the NIO world. Guys don't sit on the bench

1713
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 2: for two years unless your name is Arch Banning. Like

1714
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 2: that's just not the world we live in. And so like,

1715
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 2: I don't care how talented you are, Like, it's just

1716
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 2: going to be a battle to be great as a

1717
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 2: true freshman. And so for me, it was like, Okay,

1718
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 2: let's just make sure Bryce unter Wood is definitively the

1719
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 2: guy and you know, don't get him killed out there.

1720
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 2: And as long as that's the case and he shows

1721
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 2: development over the course of the year, then I think

1722
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 2: it's a successful season. Well, I bring it up because

1723
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 2: today or Saturday against Maryland sixteen to twenty three, passing,

1724
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 2: two touchdowns, no interceptions. Now, last week against Northwestern he

1725
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 2: did have two turnovers, but overall he's mostly taking care

1726
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 2: of the football. I think he's getting better. It's a

1727
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,799
Speaker 2: young team around him. So no, I didn't have Michigan

1728
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 2: in the playoff, and I don't even know if there

1729
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 2: was a win loss record attached to them that I

1730
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 2: cared about as much as just like, hey, you spend

1731
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 2: a bunch of money in on this quarterback.

1732
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 4: Is he the guy? Big picture? And I think that

1733
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 4: he is.

1734
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1735
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I just I haven't seen enough. I guess

1736
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 3: I would agree with you that there's been some progress there,

1737
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 3: but I just haven't seen enough from that position to

1738
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,799
Speaker 3: get a great read on it. I mean, I based

1739
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 3: on what we were told he was going to be

1740
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 3: coming in, I certainly believe, yeah, he's probably gonna end

1741
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 3: up being a guy. This year just has just kind

1742
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 3: of been I mean, you're probably right. It's probably all

1743
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 3: setting up for the future. They were not positioned to

1744
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 3: be a big time threat this year, so the whole

1745
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 3: year was about building him for the future, making sure

1746
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 3: that he was in a better position that you could

1747
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 3: then surround him with more veteran guys obviously after this season,

1748
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 3: who've had a little bit more football under their belt

1749
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 3: and also maybe having a solid offseason as well. That's

1750
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 3: that's probably the way it feels. I just I guess

1751
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,879
Speaker 3: what's kind of interesting to me is like they Michigan

1752
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 3: is another one of those teams that I said this

1753
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,639
Speaker 3: to you in a text earlier in the day. There's

1754
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 3: just a lot of these like Tier two, Tier three

1755
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 3: teams that are still on the outside but are possible

1756
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 3: could end up in the playoff that I just have

1757
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 3: no interest in seeing in the playoff this year because

1758
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 3: I don't think they've got a chance in the world.

1759
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,759
Speaker 3: And it's like, I just don't that doesn't sound interesting

1760
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 3: to me, Like Michigan getting into the playoff this year

1761
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 3: seems dull. Like that seems boring. There are some schools

1762
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 3: that you know they never sniffet again, and so maybe

1763
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 3: this would be a year where that would actually be

1764
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 3: a fun story, But like a Michigan getting in doesn't

1765
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 3: interest me in the least now. Unfortunately, like the more

1766
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 3: this season has played out, the more mediocrity I've seen

1767
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:01,719
Speaker 3: higher up on the rankings board. I think it would

1768
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 3: start almost with Oklahoma for me, where it's just like,

1769
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 3: I'm kind of these teams are not exciting to me,

1770
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 3: and I don't think they can make much noise once

1771
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 3: they get into the college football playoff and so like,

1772
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm gonna watch the games with bells on

1773
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 3: because I love college football and so do you, but

1774
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 3: I'm not really anticipating anything particularly dramatic.

1775
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, Michigan eighteenth in the country right now, as we said,

1776
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 2: probably the signature win, you know, at Nebraska.

1777
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 4: Maybe this Washington team, which is sitting at seven and.

1778
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 2: Three as they play right now with the Rose Bowl,

1779
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 2: gonna improve to eight and three by the end of

1780
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 2: the night. Yeah, no, I don't disagree that they probably

1781
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 2: aren't the sexiest team. I mean, I will tell you this,

1782
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 2: we'd certainly have a lead story on next Saturday if

1783
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: they man, I mean, if they beat Ohio State. I mean,

1784
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 2: obviously it'd be five straight years true freshman quarterback. Let

1785
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 2: me ask you this, like, where are you at on

1786
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 2: Ohio State? Because first of all, Saturday they take care

1787
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,040
Speaker 2: of Rutgers. It's not even close. And what was what

1788
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 2: interesting was the they basically used it as a de

1789
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 2: facto bye week. Jeremiah Smith didn't play, Carnel Tate didn't play.

1790
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 2: They still cruise to a forty two to nine victory.

1791
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 2: I guess what I would say is, you know, my

1792
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 2: opinion on Ohio State is pretty straightforward. Is they deserve

1793
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 2: all of the accolades that they're getting. They should be

1794
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 2: the number one team in the country going into next week.

1795
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 2: It's not that I'm not like sold that they're really, really,

1796
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 2: really good. I don't know that there's like a huge

1797
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 2: gap between them and some of these other teams, but

1798
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 2: because of who they've played, when they've played them, how

1799
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 2: they've played them, that's the way it's setting up. Like

1800
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 2: I just you know, like I don't know that, like

1801
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 2: there's fundamentally a huge gap between say them and A

1802
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 2: and M them in Georgia certainly, which seems to be

1803
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 2: coming on, but obviously the rankings would indicate that there

1804
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 2: may be.

1805
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 3: Is Yeah, no, I think that's I think that's right.

1806
01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 3: I just got derailed, like I missed the last bit

1807
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 3: of what you were say saying because I saw a

1808
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 3: stat about Florida State to just oh stop me, get

1809
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 3: in my track.

1810
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 1: But real quick.

1811
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,719
Speaker 2: Before we get we'll go back to Ohio State really quickly.

1812
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 2: Let's talk Florida state for half a second. But before

1813
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 2: we do, if I can get my social media up.

1814
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 2: My my computer is going really slow right now. I

1815
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 2: saw a funny tweet. I'll get it over to you

1816
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 2: and then you could talk.

1817
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 3: And then I'll get back to Ohio State.

1818
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:22,840
Speaker 4: I just no, no, no, I saw it.

1819
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,520
Speaker 3: I was like, what is that right? Possible?

1820
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:27,599
Speaker 2: So before you share the stats, so, I just want

1821
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 2: to say something funny about the state of football in Florida.

1822
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,639
Speaker 2: So Chipper Jones. You may have heard that name before,

1823
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 2: obviously Atlanta Braves legend. I know he's from Florida. He

1824
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 2: tweeted three hours ago, the ultimate embarrassment. This has to

1825
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 2: be a a new low. Who is going to fix it?

1826
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 2: And I didn't see a time stamp on it right away,

1827
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 2: and so I was like, is he talking about Florida

1828
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 2: or Florida State?

1829
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1830
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 4: Like, is this an old tweet from yesterday? I don't know.

1831
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 2: So anyway, with that as context, feel free to share

1832
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 2: your Florida state stats.

1833
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1834
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 3: So David Hale tweeted this out. I'm befit as I

1835
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 3: saw it, in this column only teams who have outgained

1836
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 3: their opponents by forty yards or more in all or

1837
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 3: all but one game this year. Number two, Indiana, number five,

1838
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 3: Texas Tech, number six, Old Miss, number seven, Oregon five,

1839
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 3: and six Florida State.

1840
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:28,520
Speaker 4: They've out gained every every opponent.

1841
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 3: But one, at least by forty yards or more.

1842
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 4: Oh my god, how it's that possible? I don't know.

1843
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,639
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is obviously I sent you something

1844
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 2: earlier in the week because I know you're you know,

1845
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 2: you respect what Oklahoma's done, but you don't necessarily believe

1846
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 2: that they they coming into today, had been outscored like

1847
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 2: as a team on the season, or maybe it was

1848
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:52,719
Speaker 2: in SEC games.

1849
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 4: I don't know. So this is the reverse of that.

1850
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:56,440
Speaker 4: They're the reverse Oklahoma.

1851
01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 2: So they've out they've out gained every opponent but one

1852
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 2: by forty or more yards.

1853
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's only five teams this year that have done it. Indiana,

1854
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,599
Speaker 3: Texas Tech, Ole Miss, Oregon, and Florida State.

1855
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 4: That is funny.

1856
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:12,719
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. It completely derailed me off the Ohio State point.

1857
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 3: But to that end, I said about this, I said

1858
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 3: about Ohio State, I think last week. But I still

1859
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 3: feel the same way, like, I just want to see

1860
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 3: what they look like when they get challenged, because they

1861
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 3: just haven't seen it this year. And I understand they're

1862
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:28,640
Speaker 3: that much better than the opponents that they faced, but

1863
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:31,679
Speaker 3: you gotta think they're gonna see some somebody's gonna punch

1864
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 3: them in the mouth in the playoffs. Somewhere they're gonna

1865
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 3: run into adversity. That's when I want to see Julian saying,

1866
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 3: That's when I want to see Jeremiah Smith take over.

1867
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,200
Speaker 3: That's where I want to see Carnell Tate. That's where

1868
01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:46,879
Speaker 3: I want to see this team really kind of show itself.

1869
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:50,680
Speaker 3: I know what we think they are, but we have

1870
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 3: not seen them in anything that really feels like a

1871
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 3: pressure packed situation yet. And I don't think they're gonna

1872
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 3: get that at Michigan either. I just I understand the

1873
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 3: Big Ten championship, but I also want to see, you know,

1874
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 3: how hard are we going in that game when both

1875
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 3: of us are going to the playoff and some of

1876
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 3: those kind of things that might be playing into it.

1877
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 3: But I just I'm still a little bit out on

1878
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:18,600
Speaker 3: Ohio State just from the perspective that I have not

1879
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 3: seen that big time signature wind. That really impresses me.

1880
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 4: It'll be interesting for sure.

1881
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:27,639
Speaker 2: I will say I thought Martin Weiss on the show

1882
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 2: before us, Martin and Mozzi brought up a great.

1883
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 4: Point of it.

1884
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 2: Does they're gonna say all the right things about ever,

1885
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 2: you know, all the games are the same or whatever.

1886
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 2: It sure feels like Ryan Day is gearing up for

1887
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 2: like you know, you know, I think he thinks every

1888
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 2: year they're gonna win, but like resting his guys today

1889
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 2: to make sure they're ready for Michigan. That felt like

1890
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:54,640
Speaker 2: statement feels like a strong word, but it felt like

1891
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna make sure that we're we're operating at the

1892
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 2: highest level possible going into next Saturday. So busy Saturday ahead,

1893
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 2: busy week ahead. By the way, I was telling Ian

1894
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 2: this before the show. J mart didn't realize how good

1895
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 2: Black Friday is. We got Old miss Mississippi State, we

1896
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 2: got Georgia Georgia Tech, and we got Texas A and

1897
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 2: m Texas Iron Bowl on Saturday, and of course Michigan

1898
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 2: Ohio State on Saturday as well. By the way, update

1899
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 2: I mentioned Nico Iamaliava had gone to the tent. He

1900
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 2: is now going to the locker room with his pads off.

1901
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 2: It's been a tough year for him, but certainly hope

1902
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,719
Speaker 2: he's okay. Remember last week he missed the Ohio State

1903
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 2: game with a concussion and a pretty hard helmet to

1904
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 2: helmet hit and knocked him out.

1905
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 4: Of this game.

1906
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 2: I don't have broadcast on, but I can presume it

1907
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:46,599
Speaker 2: was not pretty Nico Iamaliava going to the locker room

1908
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,519
Speaker 2: after he had been in the tent. Fox Sports Radio

1909
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 2: erin Toeors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

1910
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 2: Radio Studios. When we come back, we'll continue the Ohio

1911
01:34:56,439 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 2: State Michigan conversation because quite literally the perfect person to

1912
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:04,600
Speaker 2: talk about that, as well as Shaidor Sanders' debut Sunday

1913
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 2: in Vegas as well as the Vegas Grand Prix. And

1914
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 2: he tells me he's got some really good stuff on

1915
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffen and his future Bernie Fratto.

1916
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 4: Will join us. So excited for Bernie. That's next.

1917
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio arators,

1918
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:27,440
Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

1919
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 2: Tell you what, uh, We usedab Bernie Fratto on every

1920
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 2: Saturday and then you know, stuff changed and we haven't

1921
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 2: had him on in a while, but you can hear

1922
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 2: him every Saturday night following US two am Eastern, as

1923
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 2: locked in as anybody pretty much across the entire world

1924
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,679
Speaker 2: of sports, and certainly with what's going on in Vegas

1925
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:51,839
Speaker 2: this week with Shador Sanders with F one with Michigan

1926
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 2: Ohio State, it was the proper time to bring him back.

1927
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto, what's up, buddy? How you doing?

1928
01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 9: Gentlemen? Good to be with you us.

1929
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:00,759
Speaker 4: Everything, everything's good.

1930
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 2: Let's start with Mary Mack bringing us in with mo money,

1931
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 2: more problems Michigan, more money, not a problem for their

1932
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 2: quarterback Bryce Underwood. Let's just start there. Bernie Frado, you know,

1933
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 2: let me even start with this. So J Mart and

1934
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 2: I were talking coming into the segment. You may have

1935
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 2: heard our last segment, What did Michigan people, Michigan men,

1936
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 2: if you will expect out of this year because I

1937
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 2: didn't see very many people pick them to make the

1938
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 2: playoff and whatever, And I'd just be curious going into

1939
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 2: next weekend, we know everything that's at stake. I would

1940
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 2: have guessed nine to three coming into a year where

1941
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:44,520
Speaker 2: you were starting a true freshman would be deemed a success.

1942
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 2: But I'm not a Michigan man, so I'm deferring to you.

1943
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 2: What were the expectations and obviously what has the reaction

1944
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 2: been so far going into a going into an Ohio

1945
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 2: State game that again has Big Ten title in playoff implications.

1946
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, this is a de facto playoff game for Michigan

1947
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 10: heading into the season.

1948
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 9: It's the same every year.

1949
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 10: Your goal is to beat Ohio State, win the Big Ten,

1950
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 10: and get into the playoff, simple as that, regardless of

1951
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:13,720
Speaker 10: what the roster is or the relative experience. They've won

1952
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 10: five games in a row. And I can tell you

1953
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 10: before this five game winning streak there were whispers already

1954
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:22,599
Speaker 10: about Sherywn Moore. So the faithful are always itchy and

1955
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 10: a little delusional and a little self righteous. Michigan will

1956
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:28,240
Speaker 10: remind you every ten seconds. Just go to one of

1957
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:30,559
Speaker 10: their games. We'll put on the scoreboard. They've won more

1958
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 10: games than any Division one college football team in history.

1959
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 10: Of course, they've been playing longer, they've played more games.

1960
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 10: But having said that, next week is really.

1961
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:40,759
Speaker 9: The entire season.

1962
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:44,639
Speaker 10: And I know you can't watch Barstool Sports for three

1963
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 10: seconds without being reminded how good Michigan is. Okay, what's

1964
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 10: the reality though these streak ends this year you could

1965
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:54,679
Speaker 10: have actually had at the beginning of the season Ohio

1966
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:56,719
Speaker 10: State minus three and a half.

1967
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 9: That's now up to thirteen and a half. And for

1968
01:37:59,280 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 9: very good reason.

1969
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 10: In handicapping, you look for strength versus weakness, And the

1970
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 10: truth of the matter is this Michigan team is solid.

1971
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 10: They're gonna play four quarters. They're for the most part,

1972
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 10: not gonna beat themselves. But the big advantage the Buckeyes

1973
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 10: have is their best players are far more experienced, and

1974
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 10: Michigan simply cannot match Ohio State's skill this year. Julian

1975
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 10: Sayan is completing almost eighty percent of his passes and

1976
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 10: he's got two nfour receivers in Jeremiah Smith and Carnel Tate.

1977
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 10: Michigan will not stop this team. They might slow him

1978
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:34,879
Speaker 10: up a bit, they will not slap this team. Meanwhile,

1979
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 10: Michigan will not be able to keep up on offense.

1980
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 10: They'll try it, but they just won't be able to.

1981
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 10: And no, Max Bretson, you can't underestimate that injury. He

1982
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 10: goes down today and there's a collective thud across Ann

1983
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 10: Arbor because he's a heart and soul type player, but

1984
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 10: just real quickly, that's going to the deeper's number, their

1985
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:55,759
Speaker 10: numbers deeper, excuse me, good thing, I have been drinking.

1986
01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 10: Ohio State's averaging thirty seven points a game and give

1987
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 10: up seven, that's real. Michigan's averaging twenty seven points a

1988
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 10: game of giving up twenty two, so it shakes out.

1989
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:07,640
Speaker 9: I think it'll be a slugfest.

1990
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 10: I think Ryan Day in his DNA just can't play

1991
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 10: this game free. But once he gets going and the

1992
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 10: athletes take over, it feels like it's a pretty hand

1993
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 10: I think Ohio State wins handily. What that means, I'm

1994
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 10: not sure. Maybe by seven, maybe by fourteen. Ohio State

1995
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 10: will win next week, all.

1996
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 3: Right, Berning, So that's the Michigan side, But I'm still,

1997
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 3: at least there are still some questions in my mind

1998
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 3: about Ohio State, not to how good they've been this year.

1999
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 3: I understand they've played their schedule, but I want to

2000
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 3: see what it looks like when they get punched in

2001
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 3: the mouth by somebody, and we just haven't seen that

2002
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:48,679
Speaker 3: to this point in the year. I don't necessarily think

2003
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 3: we're going to see that next year, next week against

2004
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 3: Michigan or not. But how good do you think Ohio

2005
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 3: State is when they potentially don't see anything of real

2006
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:00,919
Speaker 3: note until the Big Ten Championship get and then obviously

2007
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 3: going into the playoff, they're going to see better teams

2008
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 3: than they've seen all year.

2009
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 10: Well, that's an excellent point, and then there's a case

2010
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:09,719
Speaker 10: to be made for that's the old Mike Tyson adage.

2011
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:11,640
Speaker 10: Everybody's got a plan when they get hit. But I

2012
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 10: think Ohio State proved that in the playoff last year.

2013
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 10: They haven't been beaten since they were beaten by Michigan.

2014
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 10: So there are a couple of things to watch for turnovers,

2015
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:23,120
Speaker 10: which you can never predict. Ohio State has an lead defense.

2016
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 10: I'm expecting to turn Michigan over at least once, But

2017
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 10: if Michigan protects the ball and if it's negative plays,

2018
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 10: the game could be closer. One turnover either way could

2019
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:35,640
Speaker 10: swing this game. The second thing is red zone efficiency.

2020
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 10: Ohio State is automatic, has been automatic when they get

2021
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 10: in the red zone by scoring touchdowns. Michigan settled for

2022
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 10: a lot of field goals this year, so I believe

2023
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 10: Sharon Moore is going to try to make this a

2024
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 10: fist fight in the phone booth. Play a ball control,

2025
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,640
Speaker 10: field position game, hang around to the fourth quarter like

2026
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 10: they did last year. They're gonna have to pressure Will

2027
01:40:56,600 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 10: Howe check that they're gonna have to pressure Julian saying,

2028
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:02,880
Speaker 10: but at the same time, he hasn't faced a lot

2029
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 10: of pressure this year, so we don't know what that

2030
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 10: looks like.

2031
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 9: Can Michigan to pull off the ebst?

2032
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 10: Yes they can, but honestly, I only give him about

2033
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 10: a ten percent chance.

2034
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:13,679
Speaker 2: Well, what percent chance do you give to Lane Kiffin

2035
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 2: being pretty much anybody's coach two weeks from now? You

2036
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 2: texted me before we knew you came on. He said

2037
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 2: he had some good stuff on this and cures for

2038
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 2: your perspective. Man.

2039
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, we go back a long way in Aaron,

2040
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 10: and I don't equivocate. I think it's pretty much a

2041
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:31,879
Speaker 10: zero that Lane Kiffin leaves ooh.

2042
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 4: Miss, you're on the Jbart side.

2043
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:36,479
Speaker 10: This is pretty this is pretty well sourced and nobody

2044
01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:38,800
Speaker 10: can read Lane Kiffin's mind.

2045
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 9: But I talked to a former coach.

2046
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 10: He's pretty well connected, and he broke it down in

2047
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:47,639
Speaker 10: two narratives. The first is the narrative he can sit

2048
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 10: down in front of LSU and say, Okay, you want

2049
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:52,639
Speaker 10: me to come to your program. Hey, I beat you,

2050
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 10: I'm stepping down. I not only beat you this year,

2051
01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 10: I outyarded you by two hundred and forty yards. I'm

2052
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 10: going to the playoff. You're not. I kind of like

2053
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 10: living here in Oxford. I never pay for a meal,

2054
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,400
Speaker 10: And unlike shad Or Sanders, I could probably go ninety

2055
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 10: miles down the road every day and the boys in

2056
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:10,280
Speaker 10: the flat house will say, Lane, could you just slow

2057
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 10: it down just a little have a nice day.

2058
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 9: Now, let's look at the money aspect of it.

2059
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 10: Lane Kiffin is guaranteed nine million through two thousand and

2060
01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 10: thirty one, and he's up to get a two point

2061
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 10: six million dollar bonus this year. The bio for Lane

2062
01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 10: Kiff is thirty six million. They already get. Well, I

2063
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 10: don't know what they're going to give Brian Kelly. That's

2064
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 10: a big fistfight. But they'll end up probably having to

2065
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 10: pay him. So they'll pay thirty six and they'll pay

2066
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:35,599
Speaker 10: ninety million to bring him in. Oh, by the way,

2067
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:39,559
Speaker 10: Old Miss is allegedly offering Lane Kiff in ninety million,

2068
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 10: as is Florida. But I'm also told that Old Miss

2069
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 10: is in a position if they need to to offer

2070
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:52,400
Speaker 10: and match to Lane Kiff in anything anybody else offers.

2071
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:55,240
Speaker 10: So Garry is fifty years old, he's done it all

2072
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 10: started out coaching the Raiders back in what two thousand

2073
01:42:58,000 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 10: and seven, whenever the heck that was two thousand and six,

2074
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 10: been there, done that. I think he said, Lenny likes it,

2075
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 10: he's got it made. I'll be shot if he leaves

2076
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:08,599
Speaker 10: Ole miss based on what I'm being told.

2077
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 3: Well, that makes me feel better about my prediction. And really,

2078
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:15,840
Speaker 3: when I heard that, and Aaron's made a good point,

2079
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 3: that's definitely kind of made me sweat thinking about it.

2080
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:21,559
Speaker 3: But when Keith Carter the ad came out and said, look,

2081
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 3: we're gonna announce lane Kiffin's future the day after the

2082
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:27,559
Speaker 3: Egg Bowl, I said, I can't imagine that you're gonna

2083
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 3: break Ole missus heart after the Egg Bowl by announcing

2084
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:33,720
Speaker 3: that Lane Kiffn's gonna leave. But maybe Keith Carter doesn't know,

2085
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 3: and I don't know, but I would say this, I

2086
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:39,599
Speaker 3: would rather be the guy to do it at Old

2087
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:43,240
Speaker 3: miss than the next guy to do it at LSU

2088
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 3: or the next guy to do it at Florida. I

2089
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 3: think that Lane Kiffin becoming an icon in a different

2090
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 3: program that's never been there before. It's far more impressive

2091
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 3: than going to a place where the resources are more

2092
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 3: rich and where you're just going to be on the

2093
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 3: list of great coaches.

2094
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 9: Do you really want to go down to that firestorm?

2095
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 10: Let's look at the last two coaches that won national

2096
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:12,080
Speaker 10: championships at LSU Less Miles one of it his fourth

2097
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:15,240
Speaker 10: year than was fired. Ed Orgeron one it in his

2098
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:20,559
Speaker 10: fourth year and was fired. This was Brian Kelly's fourth year.

2099
01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 10: It turned out to be a twenty car pile up.

2100
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 10: That's what the whole situation is down there, where you

2101
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:28,560
Speaker 10: got the governor and everybody involved. My god, do you

2102
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 10: really want to step into that mass? From a legacy standpoint,

2103
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 10: Let's face it, LSU still a marque program. But like

2104
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:37,640
Speaker 10: you just said, and you look at what guys like

2105
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 10: Mark Few have done at a Gonzaga and what you know,

2106
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 10: Peterson did it at Boise State. Why not be that guy?

2107
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 10: I think old miss I don't know when they won

2108
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 10: last one national championship the fifties or whatever, but they

2109
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 10: have be that guy that puts him back on the

2110
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:54,639
Speaker 10: top of the heat. By the way, three straight ten

2111
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 10: in one seasons and they're going to the playoffs, so

2112
01:44:57,760 --> 01:44:59,640
Speaker 10: you can't really count them out this year and any

2113
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:03,360
Speaker 10: given well, missus there, So you're right. I think all

2114
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:06,280
Speaker 10: of that deductive reasoning. Lane Kiffin would have to be

2115
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 10: crazy to leave, and I don't think you will.

2116
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:10,680
Speaker 2: A couple more really quick burn, I'll start with, by

2117
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:12,640
Speaker 2: the way, Bernie Fratto joining us. You can hear him

2118
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:14,479
Speaker 2: at the top of the hour on the Bernie Friddo Show.

2119
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 2: The Center of the World for the NFL Schor Sanders

2120
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 2: NFL debut tomorrow in your hometown of Vegas.

2121
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:24,320
Speaker 4: What are you expecting?

2122
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:29,799
Speaker 10: Well, actually, I'm expecting Cleveland to win. It's a severe

2123
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:32,439
Speaker 10: mismatch on both lines of scrimmage. Cleveland's got the best

2124
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 10: defensive front seven in football. They cannot protect Gino Smith

2125
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:39,840
Speaker 10: and askting genties, you know, there's no holes for him.

2126
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:44,360
Speaker 10: And and oh, by the way, I don't think Cleveland.

2127
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 10: Let's just put it this way.

2128
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 1: The Raider.

2129
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 10: The Raiders are a hot mess. All right, let's get

2130
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:50,360
Speaker 10: to let's get to Schodor Sanders. I've already grabbed Cleveland

2131
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:50,599
Speaker 10: in the.

2132
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 9: Four points for what it's worth.

2133
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 10: You know, the famed actress Lily Tomlan used to say,

2134
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 10: I always wanted to be somebody. I just wish I'd

2135
01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 10: been more specific. That's how I feel about Shudor Sanders.

2136
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:06,679
Speaker 10: Here's a kid, famous, dad drives to Bentley, where's Rolex watches?

2137
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 10: He's in the Hall of Ring Fame at Colorado with

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Speaker 10: his sparkling thirteen and twelve record. But I've seen him

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Speaker 10: as a fifth round quarterback because that's exactly who he

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01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 10: is now. In the history of the NFL, fifth round

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01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 10: quarterbacks have started fifty six times, got a first start

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Speaker 10: fifty six times.

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Speaker 9: They've only won nineteen.

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01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:27,839
Speaker 10: Of those games, completed about fifty percent of their passes,

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01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 10: thirty three touchdown, seventy two interceptions, only a passer rating a.

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Speaker 9: Fifty four point two.

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Speaker 10: The Raiders faced a rookie earlier in the year and

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01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 10: kind of had their way with him and cam Ward.

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Speaker 9: I think cam Ward's a lot better.

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Speaker 10: Than Cleveland, and they're not that far apart offensively. Cleveland's

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01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:48,040
Speaker 10: got no offense in neither his Tennessee cam Ward that

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01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:51,640
Speaker 10: day pass had a passer rating A twelve, and I

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01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:53,639
Speaker 10: checked out a QBR A twelve and a passer rating

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01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 10: eighty one through for about one hundred and sixty yards,

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01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:59,680
Speaker 10: had one touchdown, one interception. I think Shudor will make

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01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 10: a cap couple of plays here and there. He'll get

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01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 10: picked here and there. You're going to see him hand

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01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:07,680
Speaker 10: the ball off a lot to Quinn Shawn Judkins. I

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01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 10: don't want to hear anymore about the setups and the

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01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 10: conspiracy theories. It's all been debunked. It's ridiculous. I covered

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01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 10: an NFL team for ten years. These guys will do

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01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:18,960
Speaker 10: anything to win. They're not playing games. That being said,

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01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:20,760
Speaker 10: I don't think they like Shador that much. It really

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01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 10: didn't want them. Somebody wanted them, so they went along

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Speaker 10: with it. He's going to hold the ball too long.

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01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:27,560
Speaker 10: He doesn't process what he sees. He runs out of

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01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 10: the back of the pocket when he's pressured, and I

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01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:31,880
Speaker 10: know they'll have something to blame if it goes wrong.

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01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:35,639
Speaker 10: His supporters wanted to succeed no matter what. So that's

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Speaker 10: my long witted way of saying I actually expect Cleveland

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01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 10: to win, but I think it'll be a very nondescript

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Speaker 10: day for Shador.

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Speaker 3: Sanders Bernie. One thing for me watching at least during

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Speaker 3: the commercial breaks and then pausing when we get out

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01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 3: of it. The LAS Vegas Grand Prix this year. I've

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01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:55,080
Speaker 3: just become a big time F one fan and have

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01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 3: watched everything, and I was just curious, from the Vegas perspective,

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Speaker 3: the logistics of hosting this event this last three years.

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Speaker 3: Do the people in Vegas like this or is this

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01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:09,880
Speaker 3: kind of a pain because of the setup, because of

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Speaker 3: the way that that city is built and all this,

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Speaker 3: Like it looks great on television, but there have been

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Speaker 3: some challenges, And I was just curious, like, if you're

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Speaker 3: just walking around Vegas, if there's a bunch of eye rolls,

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Speaker 3: or if it's a positive.

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Speaker 10: Well, the first year, Jason, you're well researched. Okay, there

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01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:29,880
Speaker 10: was significant disruption to the city. There was all kinds

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Speaker 10: of traffic snarling, there were road closures, there was negative

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Speaker 10: impacts on lots of local businesses where storefronts were covered up.

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Speaker 10: There's lots of temporary construction enclosures, Employee transport issues created

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Speaker 10: a real community impact.

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Speaker 9: Okay, So it was a real.

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01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:49,719
Speaker 10: Logistical strain on the city and there were actually safety

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01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 10: concerns checked that again, safety concerns. The second year, the

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01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:56,679
Speaker 10: race had to be halted briefly to a loose mannle

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01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:57,559
Speaker 10: cover Yep.

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Speaker 9: Year three, the race.

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Speaker 10: Organizers have acknowledged the issues from their first year, and

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Speaker 10: the logistics are quite a bit better, okay, and.

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Speaker 9: So there's adaptation.

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Speaker 10: There's a ten year contract that Vegas can get out

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01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:12,599
Speaker 10: of after three years, but I don't think they're going to.

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01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:13,679
Speaker 9: I think it's.

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01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 10: Starting to grow. The issue we've had this year is rain,

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01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 10: rain ironically during the you know, during the practice rounds.

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01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 10: So I would say the first couple of years, the

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01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 10: question is was the juice worth the squeeze? Was there

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01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 10: more pain than profit? That's local businessmen and they would

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01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 10: say absolutely absolutely. But from thirty thousand feet and the

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01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:38,519
Speaker 10: macro perspective, it's an economic impact of about a billion

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01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:38,960
Speaker 10: and a half.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 10: So as time goes on, I think the two are

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01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:48,559
Speaker 10: getting more comfortable. But you're spot on with your assertion

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01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:52,320
Speaker 10: that it's been there's been real significant growing plans with

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01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:53,599
Speaker 10: a tangible visceral effect.

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01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:56,760
Speaker 2: He is Bernie Fratto of the Bernie Fratto Show. Bernie,

2218
01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:58,479
Speaker 2: I'd ask you what you're talking about tonight, but you

2219
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:00,760
Speaker 2: just gave us a great preview. You a lot of

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01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin, a lot of NFL Shdore Sanders coming to town.

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01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 2: F one and of course a busy week twelve slate. Man,

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01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:11,479
Speaker 2: it was fun catching up. Bernie was, yeah, we'll do

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01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:11,920
Speaker 2: it again.

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01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 9: I thank you. I enjoy talking to you guys. Enjoy

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01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:14,880
Speaker 9: the rest of your evening.

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01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:17,000
Speaker 2: And when Michigan wins forty one to seven next week,

2227
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:18,760
Speaker 2: we'll get you back to have me on and.

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01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 9: I'll take my medicine.

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01:50:20,120 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 3: I think we all will.

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01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:25,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm actually with you. I think Ohio

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01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:28,240
Speaker 2: State breaks breaks the streak this year. Thank you, Bernie.

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Speaker 4: We'll be listening at the top of the hour.

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01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:30,519
Speaker 9: Okay, appreciate it.

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01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:33,160
Speaker 2: That is Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto Show. He'll

2235
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 2: be on twenty two minutes from now. Let's before we get.

2236
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 3: But I will say this, like when we come back

2237
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 3: out of the break, we have the most important story

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01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:44,040
Speaker 3: of the weekend. Oh you know what's happening on Sunday night? Right?

2239
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:48,679
Speaker 4: Do you want to tell America or should we save.

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Speaker 3: It WNBA draft lottery? Baby?

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01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 2: That's right, get your Golden State Valkyrie's conspiracy theories going

2242
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 2: golden you know, frozen envelope. I'm not saying, just saying, well,

2243
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:02,639
Speaker 2: we'll prve you that. In the final segment, of the show.

2244
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:05,720
Speaker 2: I promise we actually won't, but let's get it over

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01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:08,559
Speaker 2: the news desk. Final time to saga how fired up

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01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:10,599
Speaker 2: were you for the WNBA lottery on a scale of once?

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01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 3: At ten?

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01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 8: The Rams are playing Sunday night against Baker Mayfield in

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01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:16,880
Speaker 8: the Tampa Bay Box. That's all I need to say.

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Speaker 8: We'll get to NFL news in a minute. There is

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01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:23,200
Speaker 8: late night college football still going on. UCL's just scored

2252
01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 8: on a fumble return, so Washington forty one to fourteen

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01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:29,559
Speaker 8: at UCLA. Still eleven minutes to go in this game,

2254
01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 8: six minutes left at Fresno State, and Utah State has

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01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:36,800
Speaker 8: dominated the second half. Utah State up twenty eight seventeen

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01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:39,599
Speaker 8: on the road in the fourth and about a minute

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01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:42,080
Speaker 8: to go at San Diego State. Aztec's ready to go

2258
01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:44,759
Speaker 8: to nine and two, leading twenty five to three against

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01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:48,320
Speaker 8: San Jose State. Number one Ohio State still undefeated after

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01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 8: beating Rutgers forty two to nine. Buck guys led seven

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01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:54,000
Speaker 8: to three late in the first half. Next Saturday on

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01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:57,640
Speaker 8: Fox TV, Ohio State at Michigan noon Eastern time. And

2263
01:51:57,720 --> 01:52:01,200
Speaker 8: in two weeks the Big Ten Championship, which is in Indiana.

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01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:04,639
Speaker 8: Number three Texas A and M still undefeated after shutting

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01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:08,000
Speaker 8: out Samford forty eight nothing. Number four Georgia thirty five

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01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 8: to three over Charlotte. At seventh ranked Oregon, the Dux

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01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 8: bey USC forty two to twenty seven. Ducks did have

2268
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:18,120
Speaker 8: eleven penalties for one hundred thirty yards. Aighth ranked Oklahoma

2269
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:21,599
Speaker 8: led Missouri at the half fourteen to six, seventeen six

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01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 8: to final Miszoo three and four in conference. Oklahoma hosts

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01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:29,679
Speaker 8: LSU next Saturday to end the regular season. Number nine

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01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 8: Notre Dame seventy to seven over Syracuse. It was thirty

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01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:36,160
Speaker 8: five nothing irish in the first quarter. Number ten Alabama

2274
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 8: shut out Eastern Illinois fifty six nothing. Next Saturday, Alabama

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01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 8: at Auburn, which is one and six in conference. Number

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01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:45,960
Speaker 8: eleven BYU made sure to score in the final minute,

2277
01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 8: so it's a twenty six to fourteen final at Cincinnati.

2278
01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:52,439
Speaker 8: Twelfth ranked Utah came back for a fifty one forty

2279
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:56,760
Speaker 8: seven victory over Kansas State. Wins for Miami and Vanderbilt.

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01:52:56,920 --> 01:53:00,720
Speaker 8: Pitt won at number sixteen Georgia Tech Texas Michigan with

2281
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 8: wins Tennessee one at Florida tonight thirty one to eleven.

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01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:07,559
Speaker 8: Wisconsin beat Illinois twenty seven to ten. The Alini four

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01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:10,960
Speaker 8: and four in conference. TCU had four turnovers and still

2284
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 8: won at number twenty three Houston seventeen fourteen wins for Tulane,

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01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:19,640
Speaker 8: James Madison and North Texas. Arizona State trailed at Colorado

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01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:22,160
Speaker 8: early in the third, had four turnovers in the game.

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01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:26,639
Speaker 8: ASU still wins forty two seventeen and Colorado is one

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01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:30,599
Speaker 8: and seven in conference. The Bengals did not activate quarterback

2289
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:33,879
Speaker 8: Joe Burrow, so Joe Flacca will start Sunday against the Patriots,

2290
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 8: who won eight straight. Burrow's been out since September with

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01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 8: a tow injury. Could return on Thanksgiving Night when they

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01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 8: play at Baltimore. Keep in mind Bengals wide receiver Jamar

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01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 8: Chase is serving the one game suspension Tomorrow. San Francisco

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01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:49,639
Speaker 8: kicker Eddie Piniero out with a hamstring injury. The forty

2295
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:53,040
Speaker 8: nine Ers did confirm that they voided next year's guaranteed

2296
01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:56,760
Speaker 8: money for injured wide receiver Brandon Ayuk Packers running back

2297
01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:59,599
Speaker 8: Josh Jacobs is a game time decision. He was limited

2298
01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:02,160
Speaker 8: in practice this Friday with a knee injury, and Green

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01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:06,760
Speaker 8: Bay will also play on Thanksgiving at Detroit. Jacksonville activated

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01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 8: tight end Brenton Strange, Seahawks place wide receiver Tory Horton

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01:54:10,479 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 8: on IR the Bears place linebacker Tremaine Edmonds on injury reserve.

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01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 8: In fact, Chicago's missing their top three linebackers against the Steelers.

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01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:21,439
Speaker 8: We'll see if quarterback Aaron Rodgers starts for Pittsburgh. He's

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01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 8: questionable with the fractured left wrist. Cleveland elevated quarterback Bailey's

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01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:30,879
Speaker 8: appy Isshudeur Sanders will be starting. The Clippers got fifty

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01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 8: five points from James Harden and a win at Charlotte Today.

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01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:37,560
Speaker 8: Atlanta sent New Orleans to a ninth straight loss. Chicago

2308
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 8: edge Washington. The Wizards have lost fourteen in a row.

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01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:43,320
Speaker 8: Sacramento took the late game at Denver one twenty eight,

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01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:46,440
Speaker 8: one twenty three despite forty four points from Nicola Jokic,

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01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:50,400
Speaker 8: and Detroit won its twelve straight game, a win at Milwaukee.

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01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:54,720
Speaker 8: Women's basketball victories for Kentucky over Louisville Number seven Baylor

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01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 8: won an overtime against Davidson. NHL victories for Colorado and

2314
01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 8: Philadelphia in a Major League Soccer Conference semifinal Vancouver on

2315
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:07,240
Speaker 8: penalty kicks, eliminated LAFC Formula Ones Las Vegas Grand Prix

2316
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 8: went to Max first stap it.

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01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:08,880
Speaker 3: Back to you.

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01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Disager to Sega. Have a

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01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 2: great evening back tomorrow. Okay, victory Sunday with Arnie Spanier,

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01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:21,080
Speaker 2: the Arizona Wildcats winning this week, and of course Chris

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01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:24,200
Speaker 2: playing's Oklahoma Sooners. Yeah, yeah, first time in a while

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01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:26,120
Speaker 2: you can play that, at least when Arnie was in

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01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:28,400
Speaker 2: the building. But uh, all right to Sagre, thank you

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01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:31,280
Speaker 2: very much. Fox Sports Radio er tors Jason Martin. One

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01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:36,280
Speaker 2: segment left. You gotta hear what Fernando Mendoz has said

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Speaker 2: this week. That's next. Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back everybody.

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01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio aer towards jaysmart broadcasting live from the

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01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:47,560
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Studios ten minutes from now. Bernie Freddo

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Speaker 2: of The Bernie Freddo Show follows us. Great stuff from Bernie.

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Speaker 2: By the way, as we go off air, remember download

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Speaker 2: show right after we get off air. Jamark a couple

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01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 2: quick notes from today's college football. I saw this, you'll

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01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:20,480
Speaker 2: love this. So LSU survived Western Kentucky. We won't break

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01:56:20,520 --> 01:56:24,320
Speaker 2: that one down. But I did not know this. Apparently

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01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly's son is a walk on at LSU. Brian

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01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 2: Kelly did not show up to senior day to walk

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01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:34,880
Speaker 2: his son out and be honored before the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I actually think he probably made the

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01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 3: right call on that one, do you?

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01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:39,560
Speaker 8: Yeah?

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01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 3: Probably? Wow, let it be about your son. I understand

2346
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:46,080
Speaker 3: you don't in that case, are you making it about you?

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01:56:46,160 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 3: I think you're kind of making it about your son

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01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:51,840
Speaker 3: by just not just just let him have his honor

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Speaker 3: because it doesn't it's not it's not something that concerns

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Speaker 3: you and the way that that ended and all that.

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Speaker 4: Like, I don't know, I kind of don't know, may.

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Speaker 3: I kind of I don't know, I kind of I

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Speaker 3: can't make the see the idea of not being there,

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Speaker 3: especially when you're in a fight over your buyout.

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Speaker 2: The thing I will say, his son is a walk on,

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Speaker 2: and he probably did see He played at a Grand

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Speaker 2: Valley State, which is ironically where Brian Kelly started his career,

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Speaker 2: and so he transferred this year, and so I wonder

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Speaker 2: if it's like a COVID year. I know the COVID

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Speaker 2: year is done, but I wonder if it's like a

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Speaker 2: COVID year situation where maybe he did already have a

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Speaker 2: senior day and this was kind of like the second one.

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Speaker 2: I will say, I kind of you can. You cannot

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Speaker 2: make it about you, Although to your point, I guess

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Speaker 2: maybe he's getting booed as.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying. Yeah, I just I don't know about

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Speaker 3: him showing his face right now. I think that that

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Speaker 3: that destroys anything that his son might have might have

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Speaker 3: gotten in that moment. So I think he would have

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Speaker 3: been such a distraction there that it might have been

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Speaker 3: better to stay, even though I'm sure that was hard

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Speaker 3: for him not being there with his son.

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Speaker 4: All Right, really quick, do you want to wrap on

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Speaker 4: one more thing? Just a quick yes?

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Speaker 9: Not?

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Speaker 2: Did you see Fernando Mendoza on the podcast with Rob

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Speaker 2: Stone mark Ingraman urban Meyer this week?

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Speaker 4: There was a clip that a crazy viral. Okay, no,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna set it up.

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Speaker 2: I I it's more of a visual thing, but it's

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Speaker 2: pretty good audio as well. The guys basically asked him

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Speaker 2: take us through the final play against Penn State, and

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Speaker 2: I think they were expecting the whole Uh yeah, I

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Speaker 2: just had to rally the troops. Credit Omark Cooper with

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Speaker 2: the big catch. Here's how Fernando Mendoza answered the question.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah.

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Speaker 11: They played kind of like their two joker structure where

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Speaker 11: it's it's a little similar and they have this middle

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Speaker 11: safety who is really reading off the quarterback size and

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Speaker 11: really playing off that speed.

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Speaker 12: And so we had speed of the field there. We

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Speaker 12: had number three, Omar Cooper Junior, who made a fantastic catch.

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Speaker 12: And so when I when I caught the ball, I

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Speaker 12: looked over there and I saw his hips turn, his

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Speaker 12: hips and eyes turn to that point, all I knew

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Speaker 12: I needed to just beat that boundary croll defender and

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Speaker 12: beat that boundary safety. And once I saw a safety

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Speaker 12: go over the top to the outside receiver defending the

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Speaker 12: whole shot, I knew that I needed to put some

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Speaker 12: arc and layer on it over the hook defense after

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Speaker 12: that that kind of like the hook curl defender in

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Speaker 12: order to make that completion because I knew the other guy,

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Speaker 12: the joker had.

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Speaker 1: His hips to the speed.

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Speaker 3: I got his face right now, hold on, look at you.

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Speaker 4: Look at this. I've ever heard this is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Look at you.

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01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 4: This is as intense and happening in years.

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Speaker 2: That was That was Fernando Mendoza breaking down the game

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Speaker 2: winning play against Penn State. J mart we have literally

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Speaker 2: like twenty seconds. Urban Meyer literally almost fainted on air

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Speaker 2: as Fernando Mendoza broke it down.

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Speaker 3: Uh. That was awesome. That was awesome. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I thought it was incredible. It's one thing to

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Speaker 2: like have the play cueued up on on on a reel.

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Speaker 2: It's another thing to just do that off the top

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Speaker 2: of your head. There was no film. It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed the heck out of it. Tell you what

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Speaker 2: we got to get out of here. I enjoyed the

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Speaker 2: heck out of this show. By the way, got to

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Speaker 2: thank the crew, Mary Mack on the board, Ian from

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Speaker 2: a partner, Jason Martin, as well as Steve Disager. I'm

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Speaker 2: are Torus. Download the podcast. Listen to Bertie Fratto. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports.

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Speaker 9: Are you