Speaker 1: I rewatched that Genuine entrance the other day of him
Speaker 1: when he went on one O six and he came
Speaker 1: out in a stretcher. This is for one of the performances. Yes,
Speaker 1: I remember, he came out in the stretcher and then
Speaker 1: his boy goes, oh no, he's flat lining, y'all. The
Speaker 1: only way we can bring him back is with chess compressions.
Speaker 1: And then they do the chess compressions and Genuine does
Speaker 1: this ship on the fucking and then he comes back
Speaker 1: to life and sings, Pony, it's the what he's talking about,
Speaker 1: king shit, king shit, And we were just like, I
Speaker 1: guess this Thursday because Genuine, fuck you.
Speaker 2: You had it all baby, and you let it you
Speaker 2: let it go.
Speaker 3: Damns racist, he.
Speaker 2: Owes the money.
Speaker 4: She's man turney stuff, I can't tell me. Chili's Chili's
Speaker 4: baby back ribs.
Speaker 2: There it is, there, it is.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My
Speaker 1: Mama Told Me.
Speaker 5: The podcast where we dive deep into the pockets of
Speaker 5: black conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1: And we finally work to prove that she would tell
Speaker 1: edge of for is the most famous man on the
Speaker 1: planet whose name No One knows how to pronounce that
Speaker 1: motherfucker is unbelievably famous for everybody to be like, what
Speaker 1: is his name? I do not know it. I've never
Speaker 1: known it and I never will know it because of
Speaker 1: how hard that motherfucker is.
Speaker 5: You're right, You're right, Yeah, face is great name.
Speaker 1: Another because even even Jiaman we figured out Jimon, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like we we all figured out like, okay,
Speaker 1: Jamon Hanson, Yeah, that's a mistas exactly.
Speaker 5: Night in Constantine, a lot of a lot of big.
Speaker 6: Rules come on.
Speaker 1: They put blue contacts on him, and nobody said nothing
Speaker 1: that that was beautiful.
Speaker 5: She would tell that a Marvel movie and a Slave
Speaker 5: movie and it's like the two biggest rock Man movies.
Speaker 5: And I don't I don't know how to say the
Speaker 5: last name.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think that.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I mean I think you have to like commit to
Speaker 6: demanding people.
Speaker 5: No way, yeah right.
Speaker 6: I think he's a little too like, you know, chill
Speaker 6: about however, like Raven coming out at like thirty five
Speaker 6: and saying, my last name is Simonier. We don't care.
Speaker 6: We our whole life.
Speaker 5: No I do that.
Speaker 6: Now you had your chance.
Speaker 5: You get the feeling he was on set, like you
Speaker 5: just called me cha way it's.
Speaker 6: Good, and yeah, exactly, and then.
Speaker 5: It's like no, no, no, no, no, you gotta stand
Speaker 5: on that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, was like, listen, I don't give a fuck. You
Speaker 6: canna say Charlie's starn.
Speaker 5: Yeah it out, Yeah, Yeah, she came out.
Speaker 1: She came out and did that from the start to
Speaker 1: the bigger point. She said, this is who the fuck
Speaker 1: I am. And I may not even be here that long,
Speaker 1: but you're gonna learn to pronounce this motherfucker. And instead
Speaker 1: she would say it was like, hey, Edgy's fine, go
Speaker 1: me Edgy. I don't know, it don't matter.
Speaker 5: And the hard thing about the Raymond thing is it's
Speaker 5: gone so far that like we don't believe.
Speaker 4: It, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I was like, I believe it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, it's a little too bougie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, too little.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know know, And she's done too many
Speaker 1: weirdo things before this, where like, I don't trust your
Speaker 1: opinion on nothing, lady. There's no like thing you could
Speaker 1: tell me where I'd take it as one hundred percent true.
Speaker 6: She said she was from every country in Africa except too,
Speaker 6: and every country in Europe except or something. She was
Speaker 6: literally from half the planet.
Speaker 5: Here's my question is what were the two? It was like,
Speaker 5: sorry d r C.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I'm not listen one thing, I'm not
Speaker 1: a Kenyan. Everything else I'm fucking.
Speaker 5: I bet she would claim Kenya just because Kenya gets
Speaker 5: a lot of press.
Speaker 1: For they're cool. Yeah, they're shut up.
Speaker 5: No, I don't mean that. I'm sorry from again.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean like, where's the black party?
Speaker 5: Said she claimed? Oh I don't even know. Did she
Speaker 5: claim Africa?
Speaker 1: I didn't know she did that. She because she went
Speaker 1: on a little run where she was saying she wasn't
Speaker 1: black no more. She had a little recent run where
Speaker 1: she there, you go, Okay, that's.
Speaker 5: A good one. There's a lot of countries in Africa
Speaker 5: that nobody's gonna follow up on. Mm hmm. There's just like, yeah,
Speaker 5: say you're to me being who's gonna who's gonna say anything.
Speaker 1: Going to stop our guest today. You've already heard their voice.
Speaker 1: It's a phenomenal time. We're excited he's here. Uh you
Speaker 1: know him from a lot of cool shit, you know,
Speaker 1: rap shit on Hbox. Max, I ain't no HBO.
Speaker 4: Shut the fuck up HBO.
Speaker 1: It's Max, But but it's a it's a show, a
Speaker 1: great show that he's a part of. He also hosts
Speaker 1: a podcast called The read Uh that you can listen
Speaker 1: to anywhere and everywhere, and and that's the whole shebang.
Speaker 1: And we're so excited he's here. And give it up
Speaker 1: for kid Fury.
Speaker 6: Everybody, Sunny La.
Speaker 1: Sunny La. We're glad you're here. You came to us.
Speaker 1: I should say, with a conspiracy theory that we softened
Speaker 1: up a little bit, and that's not because we're afraid
Speaker 1: of the conversation. Let me be very clear about that.
Speaker 1: We are not afraid of the conversation, and in fact,
Speaker 1: I encourage you right away to get into what inspired
Speaker 1: this conversation. But we have covered a fair amount of
Speaker 1: this individual on the podcast, and so we wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure that we broaden it a little bit to
Speaker 1: make sure that we're not exclusively a bow Wow podcast
Speaker 1: from this point forward.
Speaker 6: But you are such a liar, let's go.
Speaker 5: I'm exact.
Speaker 6: He's like a centerpiece of the conspiracy podcast that's insane.
Speaker 1: He's a he is a vital source for this podcast.
Speaker 1: I would say it comes.
Speaker 6: Out Fuster six and Park he's my mama.
Speaker 5: Can I also say he's my least favorite male host
Speaker 5: of one on sixth in part?
Speaker 6: Was he ever actually a host? I know they ran
Speaker 6: out of options and then they were like, hey, brother,
Speaker 6: you want to check.
Speaker 1: Hey you want to keep coming back because you seem
Speaker 1: you seem to be hanging out anyway.
Speaker 5: You just want to I'm a I'm an AJ guy
Speaker 5: from where I stopped paying attention.
Speaker 1: Tig Tiger was it? I did fuck with AJ. I
Speaker 1: was devastated to find out that the dreads were not
Speaker 1: real that that had you.
Speaker 4: You knew the whole time. You knew the whole time.
Speaker 5: It did not.
Speaker 1: You're lying if you tell me you knew the whole time.
Speaker 5: Bro. They were too There was a lot of dread.
Speaker 1: That was a lot of dread, which makes it even
Speaker 1: crazier because he was sitting down every day to get
Speaker 1: thirty pounds of dreads sown in.
Speaker 6: Why that's crazy.
Speaker 5: I want to suffer for your art.
Speaker 6: For a rabbit pack of thirteen year olds from the Bronx.
Speaker 7: Whatever to say, for a fucking freestyle Friday you had
Speaker 7: to put new dreads in.
Speaker 5: That was a big day. Don't be a shout out
Speaker 5: to my man blind Fury.
Speaker 1: Have you ever rewatched any Blind Fury?
Speaker 5: Of course, I've rewatched YouTube super cuts.
Speaker 1: It's it's I'll be honest, he's one of the worst
Speaker 1: rappers that have ever reached that level of success.
Speaker 5: Hey, you know what though he was blind as hell,
Speaker 5: he was blind. He was blinded. You see was blindness?
Speaker 1: Well it was so it was such a beautiful time,
Speaker 1: and we didn't know what we had. Kid, you came
Speaker 1: to us with a conspiracy theory that somehow sparked whatever
Speaker 1: that conversation was. But you said, my mama told me
Speaker 1: child stars are all victims. And I should say specifically,
Speaker 1: you guided this conversation through your you're a conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: about Lil Bow. Wow, tell us everything.
Speaker 6: You know. The year was probably herraw.
Speaker 5: Thousand.
Speaker 6: God had to be somewhere between one and four.
Speaker 5: It's early. It's early early. I think this was before
Speaker 5: the Towers film.
Speaker 6: You know what this is like a while ago. I
Speaker 6: was still low. I don't even know if he was
Speaker 6: like mike Ya No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That was a few years into the journey.
Speaker 6: I think, yeah, I mean he was doing great. He
Speaker 6: was just kind of like at the peak of his
Speaker 6: like heart Throb pop stardom, and I go to school
Speaker 6: one day, minded my goddamn business, not really expecting my
Speaker 6: shot anything besides you know, like bullying and humidity.
Speaker 5: It's my.
Speaker 6: And for whatever reason, the talk on the on the
Speaker 6: town or in the high school halls was did you
Speaker 6: hear what happened about wom And the story went that
Speaker 6: he was unfortunately assaulted sexually in a limousine by his
Speaker 6: own security guard. Yes. And there were graphic additions to
Speaker 6: the story, some involving like stitches. That's what I heard that,
Speaker 6: you know, I was sewing things back together a blowout
Speaker 6: if you will. Yeah, as a gay man, I really relate.
Speaker 6: I have no common empathize. Yeah, So I remember just
Speaker 6: going to school and hearing that, and and there was
Speaker 6: a lot of celebrity guys that don't hunt around as
Speaker 6: you know, you're a kid, you know. A big one
Speaker 6: for us was also Trina miss the Elliott being a
Speaker 6: couple of that one might not have been untrue, but
Speaker 6: either way, I think they would have been.
Speaker 1: For sure, that would be cool and it would explain
Speaker 1: why there are so few collaborations.
Speaker 6: But I remember hearing this one and going, huh, like,
Speaker 6: why isn't this on the news. Why haven't we heard
Speaker 6: from an official source about something so tragic, violent, heinous, unspeakable.
Speaker 6: And I never really got an answer for that.
Speaker 1: So you you are told this in the in the hallways,
Speaker 1: in between being bullied by by assuming Haitian men.
Speaker 6: A couple of Bamians okay.
Speaker 1: Uh and and then and you hear this, and your
Speaker 1: immediate instinct is, nah, this feels silly, this is absurd.
Speaker 6: It just it felt way too wild and random to me.
Speaker 6: But I remember thinking, also, like, where do we come
Speaker 6: up with these Who's the person who's like, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: get this ship?
Speaker 5: Kids?
Speaker 6: That's how does it make the waves? Because the powerful
Speaker 6: thing about this story for me was that I think
Speaker 6: the following summer, I went down to visit my family
Speaker 6: in Jamaica, as I did quite often in the summertime
Speaker 6: as a kid, and my two of my uncles, who
Speaker 6: are around the same age as me, and my granddaddy
Speaker 6: was fast. So Louke, you know, I'm not mad at
Speaker 6: in recipes. We go around there and we're you know,
Speaker 6: kicking the shit, climbing trees, eating the mangoes in they
Speaker 6: asked me if bow Wow was okay because they.
Speaker 8: Heard of and I'm like, I said, Nigga, running water
Speaker 8: is like them around the fuck.
Speaker 6: Do you know about this ballball rumor?
Speaker 1: Buddy, it can't be focusing on bow wow, right now
Speaker 1: you got other problems.
Speaker 5: This isn't it. I like that they knew that you
Speaker 5: would have a direct line, like you would be like, actually,
Speaker 5: he's doing well as the American.
Speaker 1: I was actually with him in the hospital last week.
Speaker 1: He's healing up. Fine.
Speaker 6: You didn't have texting yet.
Speaker 1: And the new the new record, it's a banger.
Speaker 4: You're gonna lie.
Speaker 1: You just don't know the way, so you're not buying it.
Speaker 5: Bory.
Speaker 1: You were all of a similar age. What you heard
Speaker 1: this around the same time.
Speaker 6: Didn't you believe it?
Speaker 5: No? I believe it. I remember it was in junior
Speaker 5: high school and this kid on my wrestling team who
Speaker 5: smelled very bad, very bad. His name was Wilt. He
Speaker 5: told me, he said, he said, he's.
Speaker 1: He's just meaning it's sad that a man was named
Speaker 1: Wilt smell.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean he was a boy at the time.
Speaker 5: But that's how I know. That's how I can put
Speaker 5: the date on it, because I remember the junior high
Speaker 5: school I was that because I went to a lot
Speaker 5: of schools, and he told me that it was in
Speaker 5: the limo by his limo driver and that there was
Speaker 5: like I think he said I if my memory serves
Speaker 5: I think he said thirty two stitches, which even as
Speaker 5: a little boy, I was like, this is I was
Speaker 5: just like, this is How did this get to? Will
Speaker 5: you know? Like how did this trickle down all the
Speaker 5: way that sticky ass Wilt knows?
Speaker 1: But also how is it that Wilt is the number
Speaker 1: one source of bow wow information coming out of this
Speaker 1: specific area, Like that doesn't fucking make sense?
Speaker 5: You know. The craziest part about it, will shocker white guy?
Speaker 4: Hmm it was a white guy.
Speaker 6: Okay, I explained a couple of things.
Speaker 1: I was about to say that starts to make this
Speaker 1: feel like an intentional sort of like Reagan moving through
Speaker 1: the community kind of vibes.
Speaker 5: That's how that is it. It felt like a plant
Speaker 5: because it was also like nobody else was talking about
Speaker 5: He was the only one who said it to me. Yeah,
Speaker 5: because I remember being like, Ah, what the fuck is
Speaker 5: he talking about? And then going about because he told
Speaker 5: me in the morning, and then going about my day.
Speaker 5: No black people said anything about it to me all
Speaker 5: day but I still remember Will telling.
Speaker 1: Me that, Well, here's what I'll say if I am
Speaker 1: a president of a United States and I'm watching this young, upstart,
Speaker 1: little bow Wow start to make waves with young men
Speaker 1: and young women in a way that we haven't seen
Speaker 1: in a millennia. This motherfucker was was Michael Jackson again
Speaker 1: level famous, and he.
Speaker 5: Wasn't Will Talk.
Speaker 1: He was bro We I think we heard a kid.
Speaker 1: How fucking big bow Wow was. He was unbelievably large,
Speaker 1: and he's not talking about drugs. He ain't talking about alcohol.
Speaker 1: He's having a cool on the fun that niggas can
Speaker 1: relate to.
Speaker 6: But it had like gangster connects because he was by
Speaker 6: way of Snoop, so he still had like street cred
Speaker 6: even though he was four bro.
Speaker 1: You could still have him in the back of the video.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't like corny, It wasn't crazy. He's a
Speaker 1: powerful figure in society. If I want to take that
Speaker 1: figure down, I gotta start telling people he got butt sexed.
Speaker 6: I think that there's something here along with the you know,
Speaker 6: putting them in dresses, putting some dresses to take our
Speaker 6: power and strength come on the way to attack the
Speaker 6: black community and their fervor. Yeah, this is.
Speaker 5: Here is my question though, And I do wonder this
Speaker 5: because this is truly a cross country phenomenon right now.
Speaker 5: We have Miami to Chicago to Washington State. The fact
Speaker 5: that we all heard Limo, the specificity of it, does
Speaker 5: make you wonder, how did how did this happen such
Speaker 5: a specific so specifically, Like doesn't that feel crazy to you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That it that The rumor itself is so.
Speaker 5: Like you would think it would telephone a little bit
Speaker 5: to where you heard in Miami. Maybe you heard Limo.
Speaker 5: By the time it got to me, it was like
Speaker 5: Snoop Dogg's hot tub or some like like like you
Speaker 5: know what.
Speaker 1: I was a hummer too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Like the idea that it was a Limo and I
Speaker 1: heard driver.
Speaker 5: You both heard security, so a little bit different. But
Speaker 5: the specificity of it is interesting to me. It is
Speaker 5: very interesting to me as well. But I'm also starting
Speaker 5: to think, because it seemed to take so much life
Speaker 5: in the school system, I'm wondering if there was just
Speaker 5: like a rival child star parent, Oh oh that lost
Speaker 5: a job to this kid, and those like every opportunity
Speaker 5: because listen, I'm a whistleblower. I'll say it. Do you
Speaker 5: think this was a masterpiece situation?
Speaker 1: I was about to say, there's a man named Percy
Speaker 1: Miller who had a lot to gain during this era.
Speaker 1: Come on and could not afford to lose.
Speaker 5: Come on, and Romeo did not have what it took.
Speaker 5: I'll say it stacked up. It was no competition.
Speaker 1: He didn't have it.
Speaker 6: They were still fake beefal on that damn reality show
Speaker 6: there the Kids and Sisterhood of.
Speaker 5: Hip Hop.
Speaker 6: I'm ashamed to know that, but it's true.
Speaker 5: No, I know what you're talking about. Can we can?
Speaker 5: We can? We we could all agree. Little Romeo did
Speaker 5: not have it like Little bod It have what exactly
Speaker 5: exactly Nickelodeon show. I believe.
Speaker 1: His dad gave him that. That wasn't that wasn't a
Speaker 1: well earned, you know position.
Speaker 5: He had J C. Penny shoes. Little Romeo was tried. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: they were very bad. Oh he did yeah, very bad,
Speaker 5: very very bad.
Speaker 6: Ain't no damn shoes.
Speaker 5: Listen, I was a king.
Speaker 1: Do you want to do rag? I bet bow Wow
Speaker 1: sees a cut of it. I bet I bet you.
Speaker 1: I bet you ban bow Wow. Right, now, you be
Speaker 1: careful with the way you speak about bow Wow on
Speaker 1: this podcast. Let us be let us be frank and
Speaker 1: upfront about this. He is a historical figure that we
Speaker 1: value very much. We don't respect him, but we value
Speaker 1: him very much, and we don't want to be smirt.
Speaker 1: We need him to make it on this podcast so
Speaker 1: that we can finally make this whole thing hole.
Speaker 5: That would be crazy.
Speaker 6: I won't come on here and tell y'all twenty more lies.
Speaker 4: Big, lies big.
Speaker 5: Right now.
Speaker 6: So I really don't know what happened with Bowow, if
Speaker 6: anything traumatic or just while they were happened in a
Speaker 6: limo and it just took on a life of his own.
Speaker 6: I never really believed this particular rumor. Clearly some things
Speaker 6: have taken place and that young man's life to lead
Speaker 6: him to where he is today.
Speaker 1: Though well, I'm really I'm glad you said that. I
Speaker 1: actually think this is a perfect transition. We're going to
Speaker 1: take a break because when we come back, I actually
Speaker 1: did a bunch of research on that that very subject
Speaker 1: and might have some answers as to what happened to
Speaker 1: bow Wow and others. I did some research on a
Speaker 1: few others as well. So we'll we'll take a break
Speaker 1: we'll be back with more kid theory and more. My
Speaker 1: mama told me, we're calling upon you because we have
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Speaker 5: We are back and we are talking all things little
Speaker 5: bow wow, limousine. No, we're we are. It's going where
Speaker 5: it's going. Yeah, it's going where it's going. We're talking. Yeah,
Speaker 5: legs did get it back on the rails. That is
Speaker 5: why you do what you do. When I do what
Speaker 5: I do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, hey, we all played from positions out
Speaker 1: here as far as bow Wow being sexually exulted by
Speaker 1: his security guard and or his limo driver, which we
Speaker 1: all agree was very a variant of the rumor. But
Speaker 1: he did a recent interview, somewhat recent interview on Vlad TV,
Speaker 1: where Vlad, the hero in this story, outright asked him
Speaker 1: if he was ever raped, Jesus Christ would be the
Speaker 1: one to do. Yeah, that's sort of what the fuck?
Speaker 1: Man like, you don't got no morals inside of this
Speaker 1: where you don't you don't even like see him as
Speaker 1: a human being at all enough to be like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not just gonna ask him on camera if he
Speaker 1: was raped as a child, But Vlad.
Speaker 7: Did cool.
Speaker 1: Known for his tact and yes, he really loves the
Speaker 1: black community and he shows it every day. But he
Speaker 1: asked him, and bow Wow tells him that it's fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 1: He says he has no clue where that even started.
Speaker 1: And he goes on to say that he first heard
Speaker 1: the rumors while walking through an airport in Paris and
Speaker 1: was so flabbergasted by it that he actually called a
Speaker 1: radio station or multiple radio stations to put it on
Speaker 1: record that that's not true.
Speaker 5: It's good, okay, I hear what you're saying. Yep, there
Speaker 5: is a history of people calling radio stations by You
Speaker 5: have to acknowledge that if the radio station is the
Speaker 5: first place you go to clear the air. Yeah, sometimes
Speaker 5: gives a rayja vibe. Yeah. Yeah. Also, I just smacked
Speaker 5: fab in the club.
Speaker 6: You call the Yeah, this was a long time ago.
Speaker 5: It was a really.
Speaker 1: Long young man and was apparently on the radio, being like,
Speaker 1: that's not true.
Speaker 5: He had to be like twelve or thirteen, because we're
Speaker 5: the same age. I'm pretty sure. Let me check up.
Speaker 6: How old was it? Paris radio? I never hear no
Speaker 6: about an interview of him talking about this.
Speaker 5: I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked that, because this is what makes
Speaker 1: it even crazier. He claims that he called a radio
Speaker 1: station in Philly, so like he's in Paris. This is
Speaker 1: pre any version of international calling on cell phones and shit,
Speaker 1: and spends hard earned money on a satellite phone to
Speaker 1: be able to call the radio station in Philly to
Speaker 1: deny that he's been raped.
Speaker 5: Ohso, and this is just me in my head. If
Speaker 5: you were gonna call Philly, why wouldn't you just call
Speaker 5: New York? That is that's another one.
Speaker 1: Why not Hot Hot ninety seven is the most famous
Speaker 1: radio station maybe in existence, and you need to call them.
Speaker 1: You ain't called the main one. You're like, Noah, Philly's
Speaker 1: got to hear this first.
Speaker 6: I do think under these circumstances, a heterosexual mail or
Speaker 6: someone who wants to be perceived as one, would go
Speaker 6: through any length to clear up such a room, or
Speaker 6: think that they would climb directly into an active volcano
Speaker 6: fight if it meant, you know, to clear up and.
Speaker 1: Have had so I'll burn my face off before I
Speaker 1: let somebody think I'm even remotely gay. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: that's not even the main focus here, man, you were assaulted.
Speaker 5: Let's crime.
Speaker 1: Let's just let's just focus on that part that you were.
Speaker 6: He's like, not on them, and I an't gay in prison?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Also, who was it who told him at the airport
Speaker 5: in Paris? Right?
Speaker 7: Were you?
Speaker 6: Auntie? Just saying the fresh I'm so so sorry.
Speaker 4: I can't do address the rooms.
Speaker 6: And he's like, I gotta call Philly.
Speaker 1: I gotta get on the phone with Philly.
Speaker 6: That I've even this. I'm questioning because it's really not
Speaker 6: even like a logical I just did what.
Speaker 5: There's no logic to it. It's because also what time
Speaker 5: of day was it?
Speaker 1: Unclear? I will say that.
Speaker 5: The big part of this what time of day was it?
Speaker 1: The original source, according to Snopes of the earliest appearance
Speaker 1: of this rumor online is February twenty six, two thousand
Speaker 1: and one, So bow Wow would have been fourteen years old,
Speaker 1: I believe by that point and thus old enough I
Speaker 1: guess to maintain his composure while denying his sexual assault
Speaker 1: on Philly radio stations.
Speaker 6: Also, as a fourteen year old with adults in your life,
Speaker 6: why was it up to you you go forward and
Speaker 6: address your alleged assault.
Speaker 5: Because let's be honest, he wasn't making any of his
Speaker 5: decisions at this point.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 5: We all saw the diary episode where he had to
Speaker 5: ask his mom if he could buy the whip and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Like there's no situation where she's like, all right, here's
Speaker 5: a quarter.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They're just walking through the airport and she's like, bow Wow,
Speaker 1: what you gonna do?
Speaker 5: She puts it on.
Speaker 1: This is this is a difficult position they put you in.
Speaker 6: I didn't raise no bitch this quarter. We can go.
Speaker 5: You take these franks and you put them in that
Speaker 5: freaking foreign phone machine.
Speaker 6: The little ones are dimes.
Speaker 4: Put those in.
Speaker 5: No, that's that's that's a lie.
Speaker 1: Sort of unrelated, but actually, uh, could you you asked
Speaker 1: what did in fact happen to bow Wow? And I
Speaker 1: sort of got me asking other questions. One of the
Speaker 1: things that I started to stumble upon was a correlating
Speaker 1: but unrelated video from a former security guard at the
Speaker 1: Tunnel nightclub in New York who claims to have witnessed
Speaker 1: seeing bow Wow get sexually assaulted not by a driver
Speaker 1: or security guard, but instead by a and I'm quoting here,
Speaker 1: big booty Puerto Rican chick from Newark, New Jersey, by
Speaker 1: Bronch Street in the Projects. He says in the video.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry this happened at the Tunnel.
Speaker 1: At the Tunnel, bow Wow is there.
Speaker 5: Assaulted by a big booty Puerto Rican woman chick.
Speaker 1: Yes, from Newark, New Jersey, Bronch Street in the Projects.
Speaker 5: How did you know that that's where she was from?
Speaker 1: Thank you for asking that question. He knows that that's
Speaker 1: where she's from, because he goes on to say, and
Speaker 1: I want to make sure I'm getting his quote exactly
Speaker 1: the way he says it. He says, why you rape
Speaker 1: that little nigga? He says, you know he was only
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen when he came into this motherfucker. You did
Speaker 1: him dirty. But shouts out to you because as you
Speaker 1: did half of the security dirty too. Shouts out to you.
Speaker 1: I'm mad at you.
Speaker 6: Wait, I don't want to.
Speaker 4: Be take your time, yo.
Speaker 6: This person okay.
Speaker 5: Nobody's okay. Here, nobody's okay.
Speaker 6: Might they have stumbled upon this person in the projects
Speaker 6: themselves on the street.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say. I will say that the interview
Speaker 1: is is up against some brick that that looks distinctly projecting,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It looks.
Speaker 1: It looks especially unkempt behind him.
Speaker 6: So do they mean like just you know, some statutory thing?
Speaker 5: Is this pegging?
Speaker 6: Are we talking about? Like what? I'm so, I'm lost.
Speaker 5: I'm assuming was also with half of security.
Speaker 1: He's saying that that this was such a loose woman
Speaker 1: that she was willing to suck just about any dick there,
Speaker 1: including half of security and bow Wow. Or he's suggesting
Speaker 1: that she sucked off security in order to get to
Speaker 1: little bow Wow and thus sexual.
Speaker 5: I'm sure tons of people made that mistake.
Speaker 6: Look a little bit more believable to me. Yes, bow wow,
Speaker 6: being underage around horny, schiftless niggas and bitches and then
Speaker 6: some stuff happening that shouldn't have happened. I believe that
Speaker 6: because as unfortunately niggas do this type of shit and
Speaker 6: niggas and hip hop rag about it. Yeah, there are
Speaker 6: no rappers who are like, oh my goodness, the day
Speaker 6: my son turned twelve, I bought him his first home.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's that terrible Lil Wayne's story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually I'm glad you brought that up. I
Speaker 1: did want to correlate that Little Wayne story. And if
Speaker 1: we all remember Lil Wayne is it's during the Carter
Speaker 1: documentary he's doing that unauthorized where he's talking to Little
Speaker 1: Twist about the fact that he's fifteen and isn't admittedly
Speaker 1: getting pussy yet and tells him he's gonna have to
Speaker 1: do him like Baby and them did him, and then
Speaker 1: tells the story and he uses the exact phrase where
Speaker 1: he said that he was raped at eleven and he
Speaker 1: loved it, and then he goes on to say he
Speaker 1: remembers specifically the words that Baby said, suck Little Wayne's dick.
Speaker 1: He says he goes on to say, you sucked Dick
Speaker 1: so good. You're doing all these niggas around here, Why
Speaker 1: don't you suck Lil Wayne's little ass, Dick.
Speaker 6: Lul Wanne famously fine. Now he's not going through any
Speaker 6: issues emotionally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, his dreads aren't snapping.
Speaker 5: Off, no type of arrested development going on, just a
Speaker 5: regular however old he is. Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not hanging out with Skip Bayless for some reason.
Speaker 1: That doesn't seem like a victim to me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, still shouting out Trump on mixtapes.
Speaker 5: He's great, he was so complicated.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I only have too much of a problem believing
Speaker 6: that one. Even though it's still like, sir crack, why
Speaker 6: are you on the on the street corner talking about
Speaker 6: like some I don't know, I'm worried about a nigga
Speaker 6: sometimes like yeah.
Speaker 1: It's if you want to feel even sadder about the video,
Speaker 1: it goes on where he basically goes like shouts out
Speaker 1: to you, Ma, I heard you got eight kids. Now,
Speaker 1: damn sucks to be you. He starts like rubbing her
Speaker 1: nose in the fact that she has children, despite admitting
Speaker 1: that she fucked everybody at security at tunnel, including little
Speaker 1: bow Wow. It's like, bro, I don't know what this
Speaker 1: game is, but it's you're just you're being sad and
Speaker 1: you're not doing what you think you are to this lady.
Speaker 6: And eight kids. Other lady's probably paid in New York
Speaker 6: government systems a loan. I'm not mad at. I don't
Speaker 6: really understand we're mad about.
Speaker 5: I hope there's a bright side for her. I hope
Speaker 5: the highlight wasn't you know, sucking ten dicks of the
Speaker 5: tunnel that day?
Speaker 6: Like, we have to consider the fact that dick sucking
Speaker 6: is fun for a lot of people that suck. Dick
Speaker 6: sucking the dick of someone who is not of legal
Speaker 6: age is nothing to pans about. Sure, But if you're
Speaker 6: just like, you know what, that is my shit and
Speaker 6: there are ten of them in here, and I'm I'm
Speaker 6: going for a record, I don't feel like there's anything
Speaker 6: to shame this person about.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you are in a room with a fifteen year
Speaker 6: old get and they're dick sucked, and you're probably on
Speaker 6: a street corner now telling their business about it. I
Speaker 6: really don't feel like anybody has any wins, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and more importantly, a fifteen year old that you're
Speaker 1: acknowledging did not want what was happening to them, Like
Speaker 1: it's it's he's not framing this as like, oh I
Speaker 1: saw him get his dick sucked. He's saying, I saw
Speaker 1: you rape him.
Speaker 5: Why would you do that?
Speaker 1: Also, you sucked me and my friends dick. So shouts
Speaker 1: out to you, and it's like, bro, you you gotta reflect.
Speaker 5: There's no order that this is a good night.
Speaker 1: The mils are right there, and I will say, along
Speaker 1: the lines of our earlier sort of conspiratorial work, that
Speaker 1: does make me feel even more certain that there is
Speaker 1: an intentional effort to let this sort of violence happen.
Speaker 1: Right is like the police are right there. These are
Speaker 1: public conversations that just sort of get stuffed down, and
Speaker 1: we're encouraged to tell people now we're good, we'll we'll
Speaker 1: brush that shit off, when in fact, you should have
Speaker 1: called the police and this should have been resolved and
Speaker 1: made our community a brighter, safer place.
Speaker 6: And I know, like getting pussy is you know, oh great,
Speaker 6: I've been doing this since I was sick whatever. I
Speaker 6: literally know people who this thing, that type of thing
Speaker 6: has happening to and it's not fun. It's absolutely governed
Speaker 6: a lot of the ways that they look at intimacy,
Speaker 6: sex like, vulnerability, all kinds of shit. So I genuinely
Speaker 6: don't know why some many of y'all are even allowed
Speaker 6: to have children or be near them. You say these
Speaker 6: things and then you still can You still can you
Speaker 6: can still go hang around kids. Yeah, it doesn't make
Speaker 6: any sense. No, let's talk about little nas X, you know,
Speaker 6: wrestling like Jesus and tar Can completely agreed.
Speaker 5: I don't love the use of y'all in that.
Speaker 1: Breakdown that you know what you've been doing, boy, and
Speaker 1: you can't joke like that.
Speaker 5: That's not now. It's not the fucking time for your
Speaker 5: lights kinds Shenanigans, fucking relaxed, and I.
Speaker 6: Like Judge bow wow, he's just mean. They're talking about
Speaker 6: he wished his baby mam would get hit by a
Speaker 6: bus or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my boy stay active. You know, he got so,
Speaker 1: he got work to do, and he ain't gonna rest
Speaker 1: just because he's been sexually.
Speaker 6: I will spent like ten years as little Mama, and
Speaker 6: you know you want to just take a step back
Speaker 6: to try something else.
Speaker 5: Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 1: That's his Chris Gaines, that's his Sasha Fears he needed,
Speaker 1: he needed a step away from whatever that identity was. Damn,
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Speaker 1: I will say that to the point that you're making
Speaker 1: about people not necessarily finding this cool anymore. Lil Wayne
Speaker 1: in fact, has a interview with Jimmy Kimmel where Kimmel
Speaker 1: kind of like presses him in a weird way to
Speaker 1: talk about his sexual assault.
Speaker 5: Man, but not, I was gonna say who the fact
Speaker 5: that was gonna be the guy to take that to.
Speaker 4: Task, but they don't crazy.
Speaker 1: But this is how crazy it is. They're not talking
Speaker 1: about it as sexual assault. He's just like, hey, you
Speaker 1: had sex at eleven. That's wild, tell us, tell us
Speaker 1: what the fuck happened? Like it's a couch bit like
Speaker 1: a couch bit dog.
Speaker 9: And then at one point girl at one point in it,
Speaker 9: Lil Wayne kind of does go like, hey, it wasn't
Speaker 9: cool and it wasn't okay.
Speaker 1: And in fact, he also says that the girl who
Speaker 1: did it was fourteen at the time.
Speaker 5: God damn it.
Speaker 1: Thus this is not only just sexual assault, but predatory
Speaker 1: in a pyramid schemy kind of way. Anyway, Uh my
Speaker 1: mind just went to like at the time, like Birdman.
Speaker 6: Was already like you know, in the streets and running
Speaker 6: whatever the fuck, and I guess making me like you
Speaker 6: could have not involved children in sexual stuff, Like you
Speaker 6: could literally just go do whatever, wild devian stuff with
Speaker 6: whoever is consenting, and you know, just bring the kid
Speaker 6: of transformers or teenage Like why I don't.
Speaker 1: I just don't think that that man has a moral code.
Speaker 1: I think that that that don't exist for for babies.
Speaker 6: So there's just too many niggas at large in general
Speaker 6: who are behaving this whether they open because a lot
Speaker 6: of y'all not say nothing because you know you ain't shit,
Speaker 6: but it's.
Speaker 5: An amming amount of niggas or like, yeah, y.
Speaker 6: I'm talking about the listener at home, people outside of.
Speaker 5: The Little Mama's not us.
Speaker 1: That's okay, right, Yeah, none of this story feels good.
Speaker 1: I should note that I also did some some more
Speaker 1: research on a few other child stars, feeling like, well,
Speaker 1: what should we should know at least what happened with
Speaker 1: these individuals? Obviously, the Orlando Brown is a perfect sort
Speaker 1: of example of what the fuck happened to that young man.
Speaker 1: Todd Bridges talks openly about having been sexually assaulted when
Speaker 1: he was coming up on different strokes, and then I
Speaker 1: bumped into Gary Coleman and that got real sad. I
Speaker 1: don't know if y'all remember when he was on Divorce Court,
Speaker 1: but uh, it ain't great, And it then sort of
Speaker 1: like makes a even more complicated ballooning where he ends
Speaker 1: up on Inside Access. I believe this show was and
Speaker 1: this is back when Nisi Nash was still a home
Speaker 1: on that show. I don't know if I'll remember that. Yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: Insider might have been what it was called not Inside Access,
Speaker 1: but either way, Nisi Nash used to be like a
Speaker 1: gossip host and Gary Coleman came on and they had
Speaker 1: a guest host who pressed him Hella hard about his divorce,
Speaker 1: claiming based off of his ex wife's claims that he
Speaker 1: was physically violent and sort of emotionally abusive with her,
Speaker 1: that he would stomp and throw tantrums and also hit her.
Speaker 1: And the lady presses him so hard that he walks
Speaker 1: off set like Gary Coleman fully like storms off and
Speaker 1: then has an aneurysm, but has written in his will
Speaker 1: that she gets all the money despite him being married
Speaker 1: to a new lady. It's complicated, m.
Speaker 6: This also makes me just randomly think of rasbe.
Speaker 5: Oh, come on dog Yeah, the.
Speaker 6: Whole history of not even just BSk, but a few
Speaker 6: groups over at TUG or whatever Christo Yeah was called,
Speaker 6: and just a weird, creepy sort of predictments and photo
Speaker 6: shoots that he didn't have them.
Speaker 1: You saw that photo shoot with im X where they're
Speaker 1: all in the bed and white underwear together, like what, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Looked at him formally immature.
Speaker 6: I don't know how.
Speaker 4: Olivia looked at us.
Speaker 5: The group chat he.
Speaker 6: Used to have b t K to weird ass like
Speaker 6: cutsy poses piled on top of each other and ship
Speaker 6: it was just.
Speaker 1: Like like weird stuff.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I remember very clearly that day because those
Speaker 6: kinds of rumors had already been surrounding Chris Stokes. And
Speaker 6: then when days was like, yes, not only is it true,
Speaker 6: it happened to me personally, there was a video in
Speaker 6: the street like, actually, it is not true. Chris Stokes
Speaker 6: never did anything to me, and now he's fuck like.
Speaker 5: He's on Zeus.
Speaker 6: Yeah, after being on Zeus he was in a psych
Speaker 6: ward and recorded like trying to jump out of a
Speaker 6: window or something like that.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, no, he's he's down pretty bad. And
Speaker 1: I'll say none of them are thriving. It's not like, oh,
Speaker 1: like the other members are doing good. O. Marion seems
Speaker 1: the most centered, and he has burned every bridge possible
Speaker 1: with all the humanity around him. So I don't know that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like they hate his guts
Speaker 1: and that just sort of crosses his legs and praise
Speaker 1: all day.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Fuck damn it's.
Speaker 5: Dark, God damn it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so as far, I guess maybe this is where
Speaker 1: we we dismount. I don't know as far as this
Speaker 1: conspiracy goes Bory, where do you stand? Where do you
Speaker 1: feel like like all of this lives for you?
Speaker 5: Listen, man, something's happening to these kids. That's that's where
Speaker 5: I stand. Do I think this specifically? No, there's no
Speaker 5: way to tell, man, Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I think it's a possibility. Am I sold on it?
Speaker 5: I guess not? But that's not particularly comforting at this moment.
Speaker 6: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Kid, how about yourself? Where does this live for you?
Speaker 6: It's go live in the past where it belongs mostly,
Speaker 6: But I agree, I don't believe it. But there is
Speaker 6: a strangeness, I think, even to your earlier point of it,
Speaker 6: the fact that it was such a widespread international rumor
Speaker 6: that never made an actual publication, never was on the
Speaker 6: news or anything, but has so many common parts of
Speaker 6: the guy, like the fact that we all say limo,
Speaker 6: we all talk about stitches. Will says thirty fo it's wild.
Speaker 6: So that's kind of strange to me. I don't know
Speaker 6: if that speaks more to like gossip culture or the
Speaker 6: way rumors spread, but they're outside of that one instant.
Speaker 6: It's August that kids especially in the entertainment industry, don't
Speaker 6: seem to have enough eyes on them.
Speaker 5: It's not for kids. I think we at some point
Speaker 5: we just have to. Yes, people love watching Corey in
Speaker 5: the House. It's just not for king. I hid. I
Speaker 5: don't even know why that was my go to. That
Speaker 5: was very odd.
Speaker 6: My boy likes what he likes.
Speaker 5: No, I don't even I've got a Corey in the
Speaker 5: House guy. I just couldn't think of anything that I
Speaker 5: wanted one that we hadn't said yet. The point is,
Speaker 5: it's not for kids. It's just not for kids. It's
Speaker 5: just not It's just not.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think whether or not this is true, there is
Speaker 1: an emotional truth underneath it that we would do well
Speaker 1: to acknowlg that, at the end of the day, we
Speaker 1: are supporting and promoting a violence against these children, even
Speaker 1: if the violence is not the sexual, graphic one that
Speaker 1: we associate with Lil Bow Wow. And maybe that's really
Speaker 1: where all of this is coming from. It's rooted from
Speaker 1: a jealousy, obviously, from a bunch of people who watched
Speaker 1: a small boy become successful in a way that they
Speaker 1: couldn't make sense of and the only way that they
Speaker 1: could think to chop him down is by saying that
Speaker 1: he got sexually assaulted, and we say that fully knowing
Speaker 1: that he could have very well been sexually assaulted and
Speaker 1: didn't give a fuck.
Speaker 6: Wild, Why'm not just like, came right because something small?
Speaker 1: Because hey, I don't think he's gonna grow anymore. That
Speaker 1: seems that would have been a good guess and you
Speaker 1: could have really landed on something. And it's that they're
Speaker 1: just like, nah, fuck that.
Speaker 6: There's gonna be people who say beyonceing, people say Violin
Speaker 6: is hay does it sis? But my God, of the
Speaker 6: things to pull out of your hater box.
Speaker 1: Damn Christ, Well, I think we did it.
Speaker 6: I don't have any more questions about this.
Speaker 5: I don't have any more statements for sure.
Speaker 1: Well, meeting a journy kid, can you tell the people
Speaker 1: where they can find you and what cool shit you
Speaker 1: have going on?
Speaker 6: I don't know why you would want to do that,
Speaker 6: but I'm as these amazing hosts out at the top
Speaker 6: of the program. You can find me on a podcast
Speaker 6: called The Read. If you need me to spell that,
Speaker 6: then reading should probably be your first priority. So I'm
Speaker 6: not gonna do that. And then yeah, Season two rap
Speaker 6: shit just wrapped up and it's unhinged. It's crazy, it's wild.
Speaker 6: It's fun to check that out too. And then other
Speaker 6: than that, you know, just leave me alone, don't bother me,
Speaker 6: don't don't bother stop it.
Speaker 1: You gotta cut it the funk out, don't bother bory.
Speaker 1: You want to tell people where they can find.
Speaker 5: You, cool guy Joke City seven on Instagram, on my
Speaker 5: info is there, Come out and see me live shows
Speaker 5: and all that.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, and as always, you can follow me at
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