WEBVTT - Conversations About The Gang 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.400 Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:07.520 Sealer's podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:15.960 loaw glasses, Malone, Pete dog. 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:20.360 Man back back like I never left it. Back from 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:20.880 a bit. 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:25.720 Of miatas Man. I see, man, you Internet the Internet 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:28.920 down in Florida. I heard they the santis and ship 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:30.680 that ship crazy down there with the Internet. 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.040 I didn't have the Internet problems with like the Internet 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:36.960 at a large scale. I just had an issue with 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.760 AT and T and then issue with Exfinity. 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.160 I say, Florida is getting third world country right now. 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:53.120 My liberal told me, My liberal homie told me Florida 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.800 this is going third world right now. It's so dude, 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.440 Like my boy Kai from Dorsey was out here this weekend. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.520 Shout outs to Kai, and thanks for not telling me. 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:04.440 But we had a good time. When when I caught 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:06.640 him on his Instagram story on South Beach, you had 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:08.559 to call him and tell him, hey, what the help. 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.560 But we were going around to see He's like, man, 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:13.920 I can't believe how cleaning this, how big, and how 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:15.960 nice it got so much cool he was. He was 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:16.600 amazed by. 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:22.479 Florida is nice. I mean in Miami, the crazy thing 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:27.160 about Miami and it fucked me up, right because this 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:30.559 is the thing about hip hop, right, and hip hop 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.160 is street urban culture, even the arts express you know, 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:37.040 the music part of it, right is when you're listening 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:39.560 to people talk about places and they don't tell you 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:45.520 key ingredients that make these places really unique. Right, Like 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:47.880 when you go to Atlanta and like you hear all 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:50.720 these great stories about blah blah blah, this, that and 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.600 the third, but then you know this, like the black 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:58.040 homosexual population is crazy, like almost like so it takes 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.760 you off goard because no rapper put that in their 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:04.200 song like it was happening. And I don't care how 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.520 many outcast albums I listen to, you know how many 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:10.000 Tip albums I listen to, No matter how many j 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:15.240 Z's Jermaine Dupriez, none of those albums prepared me for 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.760 that culture. You know, that culture class that getting off 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.560 the plane and walking through that airport in Atlanta hit 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.440 me with. Well, the same thing is for Miami. Like 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.600 when you leave off Collins, you know, you leave off 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.920 the beach and you're driving through fucking Miami and it's 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:34.440 like the ghetto. Soon as you leave the beach, it's 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.960 like it's right there, and nobody prepares you because all 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.280 you hear is about the girls in Miami and this, 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.359 that and the third. As soon as you leave Collins, 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:44.280 your ass will get robbed. 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.359 Yeah it's it's it's pushed back a bit now, but yo, 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:53.600 it's there's no medium. There's like, there's no medium. 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:57.600 It's the phase. Is the fade? Go from hair to 0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:59.320 board instantly? 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.480 Oh yes, yes, it's it's it's not a fade, it's 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:03.680 more like a burned scar. 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:09.519 It's just like, yeah, yes, that's how I feel about it. 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.240 You go right from Collins to trouble. 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.840 That's what's so interesting. Now, we were out in this 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.240 area called Winwood and Winwood if you were here an 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:22.120 old trick Daddy's songs you know from Book of Thugs, 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:24.040 and say that he's talking about all these neighborhoods. He's 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:27.320 talking about Winwood when Wood is the arts, it's the 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:32.400 party district. Now it's like hipstery and nightclubs and all 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:36.880 that shit. It is behind over Town and on the 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.280 other side of Little Haiti. It's just like you leave 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:42.600 the designated parking area, you're into projects. You're hearing the 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:46.040 old school Miami projects right outside the club. I cannot 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:49.000 believe that those guys, God bless them. The police must 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:50.800 have gone door to door and said, don't you fuck 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.080 with those kids over there, because if I lived over there, 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:57.680 it would be like turning Willowbrook into the Arts District 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:01.839 and expecting the guys from fucking PJS not to rob 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:04.560 every jackass coming out of the nightclub drunk every fucking 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:08.600 Saturday atm Machine. I don't know how they convinced him 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:09.560 not to walk over there. 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.640 Hey, that's how the Hit Factory is. When I would 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:16.880 be with Stunner, shout out to Stunner, Birdman, tune, little Wayne, 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.320 you know, the whole team, cast money. But like you 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.880 walk out of the Hit Factories, the Projects is across 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:29.000 the street. No, that's in Miami, so you I don't 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.240 think you've been to the Hit Factory studios yet, but 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.880 Hit Factory where the studios at right across the street 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:38.520 is the Projects. That's why they got that big ass 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:44.960 gate up around Hit Factory like that. So, but something 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:48.520 was on my mind. First off, no seilings, gl in 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:52.440 the spot, doing what I do. My boy Pete back online, 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:58.880 back blazing, and my leg is feeling strong. Still not perfect, 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:02.359 but it's feeling wrong and we're finna get back to 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:07.720 really showering. You know, everybody that enjoys no ceilings with 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:11.480 a ton of episodes, fuck if they paying form, fuck 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.040 what they make. This is just what we do. So 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.039 we about to ramp it up like we did last 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:16.920 year around this time. 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:19.800 Yeah, we won't stop. 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:23.360 That's because motherfuckers can't fuck with us. Yeah, motherfuckers can't 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:27.680 fuck with us. And it needs to be understood. But 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:32.880 I was reading something and it's weird because I never 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:42.159 talked him to the person who posted this. And this 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.600 person that posted this is a legend in the game. 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:49.240 He's a legend in the game responsible for part of 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.839 DJ Quick's career. But he says on this post, it says, hey, 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:56.360 gang bankers and street hustlers over forty five years Oh now, 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.279 I'm not over forty five years old. I'm not forty 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:02.760 five yet. Yeah, it's gonna be a while. I don't 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:06.520 think you got the memo. Nobody youthful cares about your 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.880 snitching or he says, nobody youthful cares about your no 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:13.360 snitching code anymore, and very few folks care about what 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.320 you did in the streets in the eighties, nineties or 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:18.920 early two thousands, knock it off and retire. We've heard 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:25.280 all your stories. Now. I read that and it was 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:35.560 super in scendiary sure to me, right, because there's like 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:41.520 this really weird it's either ignorant or disingenuous message going 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:49.960 around in mainstream America that the streets are not the streets, right, 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:51.960 And I get. 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.920 Did you elaborate a little bit on that? So give 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:56.240 me the streets on other streets. 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:00.400 You're hearing all of these stories right where they're like, oh, 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.680 you know, the streets are a myth. Troy av that's 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:05.480 his thing. You know, he's said, oh, you know, things 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.960 happen in the streets that it's not true. The rules, 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:13.080 you know, the gang life is it's not real. And 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:17.320 it's like or like this particularly thing, right, nobody youthful 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:21.680 cares about your no snitching code, you know what I mean? 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.440 Or I wouldn't argue with anything that guy said. You could, 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.240 you might not. I think it's the greatest. 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.960 Well, it's just untrue. Well it's the problem with it 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:35.280 is it's untrue, right, because so what the average person 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:39.080 that's consuming content is getting, right is story. So they're 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.560 hearing the stories of six ' nine. They're hearing the 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:46.160 stories of this rapper, They're hearing stories from YouTubers. The 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:51.080 streets are still the streets. If you tell on somebody 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:54.320 outside of you should be totally ashamed. And I'm talking 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.800 about really telling, not you know, not the bullshit kind 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.800 of telling. I mean, like you really are informing the 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:05.360 police on someone else's crime to get less time, you 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:09.320 know what I'm saying, to get less time in exchange 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:12.600 for whatever crime you committed. You know, the lack of accountability. 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:18.440 That's a real standard thing in all criminal worlds. Yeah, 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.440 so outside of you should be ashamed for being like 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:23.720 a whole ass nigga not wanting to just personally be 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:28.320 accountable for your own actions. Right, you may get killed 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:32.760 most likely, Like a lot of these people were talking about, 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.960 don't fragnize with the people, you know what I mean 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.679 that still believe in these things. A lot of these 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.640 people that people are seeing on YouTube are not in 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:46.240 the streets anymore. And as a professional rapper, I don't 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:48.240 hang out on the seven like I used to. No 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:52.560 matter if I still abide the same rules or the 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:56.000 same caught the same thoughts, you know what I mean, 0:08:56.040 --> 0:09:00.520 the same code or ethics of conduct. I You'll live 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.000 by them even if I'm not hanging out. But it's 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.960 another thing to believe and to lead people into saying 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:09.000 that they don't believe that there are fucking twenty some 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.240 year old kids that are running around the streets that 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:15.080 believe that shit wholeheartedly and will blow your motherfucking head 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:15.720 off behind it. 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:22.960 Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean I kind of look 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:26.080 at you can see it, you know, like in larger, 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:33.880 like a broader spectrum like all these there's like a 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:39.600 whole trend of like YouTube pseudo celebrity former Mafia guys 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.440 that snitched out of time or whatever, and they you know, 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:46.160 kind of surfaced after twenty years of being you know, 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.080 off the grid or whatever the hell, and they're like, no, 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.720 now I'm gonna be you know, do a YouTube thing 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:54.400 and talk about Yeah, I've been talking about all my 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.079 old Mafia stories after I snitched my way out of 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.120 getting seventeen life sentences and I got ten years this 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.320 snitch and ass sure, yeah him, that other guy Francis. 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.760 There's you know, it's a Chicago guy that did this. 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:08.760 There's a lot of there's no shortage of it. I mean, 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:12.760 you can any mob town with a family. There's got 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:17.720 a YouTube guy. Now, sure, you know, so they're they're 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.000 walking around. I wouldn't want to do that if I 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.840 was active in thirty five and in that lifestyle, I 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.000 wouldn't want to press that button. 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.760 But well, this is the thing, right, those people are 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:32.640 not around people of the life. And another thing, those 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:36.320 people are also not in position or a lot of 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.760 people don't know where these people are, Like, they're not 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:41.200 they don't live in Boston. 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:45.319 Yeah, but these guys got like speaking engagements on the internet. 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:49.280 They really don't have speaking engagements. They're not marketing, they're 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:54.520 speaking engagements like you would think. Again, sometimes it looks 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:58.240 a little bit more transparent than it is because rust 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:01.439 is sure there's somebody still looking to blow Sammy the 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:06.760 Bull's head off. They'll never forget huh. 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:08.800 Yeah, yeah, I don't doubt that at all. I mean, 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:12.600 there's they're old now. I mean that's and I think 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:17.480 where I was going with it was when snitches represented 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:22.960 one percent of the outfit. It was one thing. When 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:27.000 everything gets federalized and penalties go from oh yeah, you 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:28.719 do whatever, you're gonna get two years to now you 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:30.760 do anything, you're gonna get thirty, you're gonna get one 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:35.280 hundred of your thousand years. The percentage of snitching has 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:39.160 grown an awful lot, you know, is there's an impact 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:40.680 on that, on the fact that. 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:48.240 I still think. I still think though, in any any 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.760 criminal outfit, you know, because that could be the police, 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.160 that could be a group of the police, all the 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.360 way down to a street game, there's still gonna be 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:01.960 very few snitches. And I think that's the confusion where 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:06.240 it's frustrating to watch people mislead other people like this 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.640 is the common conduct. And I saw another thing where 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:12.880 somebody was telling them people like and it was weird 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:14.679 because I was talking to one of my own boys, 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.480 brother Karon, really smart brothers shout out the brother Karon 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:21.120 got a doctorate, super smart, and we were talking about, 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:23.720 you know, he was talking about gang life. He was like, 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:26.080 glass as you know, man, it needs to be some 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.960 kind of rules. And I'm like, he's like, you know, 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.200 people don't oh bide by the rules. And I'm like, well, 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:35.440 there are really never been rules in the gang, right, 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:39.400 Like That's why I kind of really funny about a DP, 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:44.079 because there are no written rules when you first jump 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.000 off the porch and decide that you're going to be 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.520 a part of the criminal organization that you call a gang. 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:52.080 You don't sign a contract of conduct. You don't say 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.320 here's the rules. No different than being in America, right, 0:12:55.400 --> 0:13:00.360 and the laws. You're not taught the laws. I taught 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.360 the laws growing up, like you would think they would 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.760 teach that in school. Here are the laws. If you 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:10.240 break any of these laws, you're going to jail. It's 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:14.800 kind of like these ideas, right that are like unspoken, 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.960 you know, known things. I was explaining to somebody on Instagram, 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:22.400 like even like with a DP, like, right, I was 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.439 looking at somebody get DP by like seven people, and 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.199 I'm like, that's not the DP. They they put you off. 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.760 If they called that a discipline, you tripping. You need 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:31.880 to be shooting at them and never deal with them again. 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.839 And I was on Instagram lib and me and my 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.760 homeboy was talking about it, and we were talking about 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:41.199 ideas that can get you dp'ed in the gang. Right, 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:46.000 And it's like this DP stands for discipline for people 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:50.720 who didn't know, it's a disciplinary procedure when you you know, 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:55.559 and honestly, this is my point, when you actually when 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.960 you actually disappoint homies. 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:03.160 Do you remember when we did that live show for 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:10.720 I think it was there was all kinds of people 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:12.439 that I forgot who we were talking to. It was 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.960 the one we did outside It was it was it 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:20.280 wass chronicles. Yeah, you were talking about a story of 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.800 some guy was it was locked up. It was just 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:25.360 some fun and everybody. 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.280 Yeah. Yeah, And it's funny because I remember, oh Yea 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.840 had the conversation with Mab James about like me and 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.960 James disagree on one particular thing about what a gangster 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.640 or a gang banger is like, and a lot of 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.480 g homies really feel like the only person that's gangsters 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:45.160 is the infantry. And I'm like, that's pretty much the 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.080 firstest thing from the truth on all scales. And when 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:51.000 you think like that, you know what I mean, like 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.720 you kind of missed the big picture and you're usually 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.080 going to become a relic or you're gonna be somebody 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.600 that's gonna be totally disappointed, if that makes sense. If 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.480 you think think only the infantry is a real gang 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.920 member or a real gangster, you're going to leave gang 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:10.520 bang very disappointed or you're gonna like have a hard 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.760 time it's not gonna work out for you because you 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:16.480 gonna realize it's a lot of respect for certain people 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:21.880 that necessarily are not part of the infantry. Why its 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:25.320 respect is different. Like at the end of the day, 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:29.160 street urban culture is rooted in masculinity. You know it 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.160 sounds crazy, right, Pete, but you can relate because you 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:34.280 kind of studied the mafia a little bit, you know 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:36.240 what I mean. You know, it's about being a man. 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:41.520 All gangsism on every street level, on every street urban level, 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.840 is about being a man. Right. That's why snitching is 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.360 fround the plant we've talked about. This is because you're 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.000 going out like a girl, like real snitching where you 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.080 tell the police because they gonna give you ten years, 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.240 and you like, well not to do these ten years. 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:57.360 I'll tell you what, Billy, did you know? I mean, 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.520 that's some girl shit. Being unaccountable is considered a woman. 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:02.760 You know, we created that space, like we always say 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:06.400 women to be unaccountable. So that's why it's frowned upon. 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:11.040 It's frowned upon because it's unmasculine to not be accountable, 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:16.320 right it ghead. 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:20.560 I will say, it's you know, the dynamic always kind 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:28.440 of centers around reinforcing a hierarchy of masculinity and respect, 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:29.840 you know what I mean. So if you're up here, 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.640 you think you're up here, and you do something down here, 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:34.960 you're gonna physically get put down here. It's like, oh, 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:36.520 you want to be at the bottom, We're all physically 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.960 put you at the bottom. You have something stupid in incarceration, 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.560 they're gonna physically correct you, you know, saying anywhere else, 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:47.000 because that's that's where the respect really, I think, kind 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.480 of rests upon. Is the physical more so than like, 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:51.320 oh we're going to take you the civil court over this. 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.600 Not sure? Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. And it's it's a 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:58.280 bit primitive, it's very primitive. 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.600 But it's the most efficient. 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.160 It's efficient, and it's the way it's conducted at the 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:07.240 lowest levels. Excuse me, lowest that's the wrong word. Lowest levels, 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.760 the lowest financial places in life and the wealthiest places 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.199 in life. Everybody has the same mind state between those 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:21.640 the bottom and the top economically. So the point I 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:25.000 was making was it's so many people that are YouTubers, 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:29.800 that are content creators, and that are even rappers that 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:34.160 are masking what's really going on. You know what I mean, 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:37.040 because they're not a part of it. So it just 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.879 bothers me when I hear shit like that. I was 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.280 listening to a dude like back to Brother k Ron 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.240 and he was telling me, he was like, yeah, ge, 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.159 you know, man, you know it's no rules, and I'm like, 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:52.840 there never were rules, like you don't sign a contract 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:56.359 when you get put on, you know, even the the 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.000 DP part of it. Like I said, That's why I 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:01.720 always struggle with it, because it's like nobody sit you 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.560 down and say, here are the rules, because you know what, 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.480 the fucking cornerstone rule of all of this shit is, 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:13.760 be a fucking man. Yeah, in the most primitive sense, 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.080 if a motherfucker go disrespect. 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:16.600 You. 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.119 Kick his ass, or at tend to kick his ass. 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.440 If your friend you know where to get your DP 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.440 running out on the squabble, if your homeboys are squabbling 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:31.200 with some other guys, you know what I'm saying, and 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:34.720 you run out, that may get you disciplined. There's no 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:38.520 rule that says you have to fight, right, there's no rule, 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:45.040 but if you don't, you, as a man, you're frowned upon. Right. 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:47.520 I think, yeah, I think that comes back to a 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:52.080 very foundational definition of what it is to be a man. 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.240 Like I've said, you know before, kind of touch and go. 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:57.360 Like men are producers and women are consumers. You're supposed 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.560 to leave more at the table than you take from it, 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:03.320 so to speak. In the bigger picture, if you're running 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:06.879 around taking more from people around you, then you're giving 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:10.879 to the people around you. There's not a long, you know, 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.960 long rope for that. Eventually, that's that's going to expire 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:16.160 pretty quickly, matter what you're doing. 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:20.359 I like that a lot. I like that a lot. Pete, 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:23.360 you've never been a gangster, but don't some of these 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:25.920 same rules apply to you as a man. 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.719 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I've been around a lot 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.399 of that kind of different communities. I've been around, you know, 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:35.119 gangsters for twenty years. You know. 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:37.280 Let's say you're not around gangsters. Let's say it's you 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:41.320 and you don't really got a lot of the times. 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:45.119 But let's say, hey, it's a tie sence. You guys 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:50.120 start kicking tie ass like a regular white guy from. 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:54.119 Okay, honey, that's that's yeah, that's that's everybody I knew 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:55.879 before I was probably twenty years old, you know. 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.600 So yeah, right, So let's say you and Todd, right, 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:03.320 because you and Todd and two guys start kicking todd ass. 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:06.080 What is the civilian way to deal with that? 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:12.480 And what's funny is you just what they call the police? 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:13.480 Why he's getting his ass? 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:18.919 Well, no, you gotta get in there. You kind of 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:24.000 gotta get in there. It depends kind of also, because 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:28.600 situations like that don't tend to I wouldn't say recur, 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:30.399 but they're not going to create a cycle, you know 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:35.000 what I'm saying. So, like, if Todd gets too drunk 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:38.080 at the bar and mouths off and throws a drink 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.560 in some girl's face and his boyfriend, his boyfriend friend 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:42.359 go and beat the shit out of him, and you 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.159 know that that's exactly what happened, You're gonna, you know, 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:47.080 keep an eye on it, make sure Todd doesn't get 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:50.880 killed in the back. But Todd, you asked for that one. 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:51.120 Todd. 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:53.480 I'm We're not all going to fuck up our careers 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:57.160 because you're an idiot. Okay, you wrote that check what if? 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:01.920 Okay, okay, So what if Todd there's a drink in 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:05.440 somebody's face and three people started to kick his. 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:08.200 Ass, whatever the number is, you just got to kind 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:11.280 of make like it's funny, this is weird. This is 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:15.399 a very very similar situation happened with me probably the 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:17.120 last time. I was in our mid twenties or something 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.159 like that and went out for drinks and Newport with 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:22.919 my friends from high school. Everybody was wasted except for me, 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:26.560 because I had to drive off the peninsula and it's 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:29.480 like a gauntlet of dui traps to get off of there. 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:33.200 So I was like, I'm not sure so, which is bizarre, 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:36.120 because I mean, a n driving. 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:37.560 Is a miracle. 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:40.119 But for whatever reason, that night, I wasn't gonna take 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:40.440 a drunk. 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:42.240 It was no day, this was your day. 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:46.040 So we go to this thing and somehow I think 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:51.080 I'm not somehow I know how, but there's a handful 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:54.120 of people down there that like perceive me as being 0:21:54.280 --> 0:22:00.280 like adjacent to like the criminal underworld. So like one 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:03.080 of my friends got in started some shit, and there 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:07.520 was four of them, four of my friends who were trashed, trashed, 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:10.320 and then like five or six other guys who wanted 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:14.080 to just smear their faces in the parking lot. And 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:18.159 two of those guys, the other guys knew me, So 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:20.080 I stood in the middle of this thing. Tried to 0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:22.360 my friends couldn't defend themselves. I wasn't gonna fight six 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:25.160 guys over these idiots, so I've tried to make sure 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:26.960 that this doesn't really go down with that. These guys 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:28.840 are oh oh, bro, bro, I didn't know it was zoo. 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:32.080 Don't get mad at me, and I'm like, I don't 0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:33.879 even like you, like we're not friends. Just I just 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:36.439 want these guys to leave. They can't hardly walk. So 0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:38.560 I look around and no one touched me. One guy 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:40.280 had my friend and the headlock hit him in the head. 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:42.119 I grabbed the dude. I throw them on the ground. 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:45.240 He didn't touch me. Another guy's touched me to the face. 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:48.520 I grabbed him through him. No one touched I know. 0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:51.280 I was the only person that didn't get touched. It 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:54.639 was the strangest thing in the world. Everybody got hit 0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:56.679 in the face two three times. No one put a 0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:59.560 finger on me. It was bizarre. I don't know what 0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:01.200 to make of it. And then and then the security came, 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:03.639 and of course security then goes and grabs me and 0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:06.560 nobody else but me, and some old lady who owns 0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:08.960 the bar ran up behind me and grabbed my shirt, 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:14.479 and I turned in like swung, and I swung across 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:16.560 the arms of the old lady who grabbed my shirt, 0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:20.680 and then everybody spazed out of me, of course, but 0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:22.639 nothing really happened. We all made it out of there. 0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:26.200 Okay, everyone's crazy going on? Would you do that? One? 0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:28.920 Fucking peete bro? 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:33.960 So, I mean it kind of depends. There's a there's 0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:39.400 more of a long play mentality like where I grew up, 0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:44.080 you know then, maybe more so than when you where 0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:46.359 you grew up to to that degree, and because you 0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:51.800 know it has to do with with degrees of potential risk. 0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:53.920 You know your your risk is going to be greater 0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:56.840 in the short term. You know you do let's should 0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:58.040 get out of hand of the short term and what 0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:01.159 it's that's there's not going to be a long term. 0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:03.959 You do something stupid and Newport, Yeah, you're gonna get 0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:07.360 a shiner. What you're gonna get if a nose busted open, 0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:09.520 that's as bad about as bad as probably gonna get 0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.359 it for you. But you fuck around to put something 0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:15.160 on your record. Now you aren't gonna be on the bar, 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:16.640 you aren't gonna be a lawyer, and now we're gonna 0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:19.240 be selling insurance and making that ten ten cents on 0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:20.960 the dollar what you were previously supposed to be making. 0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:23.440 That's gonna fuck up your whole life. So it's it's 0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:25.760 it's a different calculation. 0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:32.399 Sure so, but the original point the idea right where 0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:36.520 let's say, if let's say is you you're the dump one. 0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:38.359 You flirt with a girl. 0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:40.879 This is very f You just flirting with the girl. 0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.440 Because it's sure something you can relate to, right, You 0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:46.560 flirting with a girl. You Todd Jim, Jim tie Jim 0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.240 over there, dragon, You flirt with the girl, the girl 0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:51.680 on you. Her boyfriend comes up. Boyfriend comes up with 0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:56.440 the home irrational upset see you talking to us? Girl, 0:24:56.720 --> 0:25:00.240 they start kicking your ads. Yeah, they get on. Yeah, 0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:01.760 they're kicking your ass. 0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:02.800 Where am I? 0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:04.440 You're at a bar? 0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:08.639 Where is this bar? Uh? 0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:12.320 Let's say this is and who would I be in with? 0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:17.080 Okay, I'm down there? Okay, Huh, I didn't know what 0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:21.120 I'm annoying. I'm annoyed yet. 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:23.359 So you're a Huntington beat So you're not you're not 0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:25.560 in the home stronger grounds a Newport, But you're a 0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:30.160 Huntington beach, right, But I'm not with my plea people 0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:34.280 that yeah, you with your people like nineteen eighteen year 0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.800 old people, but y'all grown. Yeah, and Todd Jim is 0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:41.560 your guys. And these three guys kicking your ass because 0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:42.879 you was talking to this girl. You didn't know this 0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:45.560 was this guy's wife. So you're talking to this girl. 0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.840 They come, they kicking your ass. If Todd and Jim 0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:52.119 don't help you, are you guys still friends? 0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:58.160 I wouldn't want them to to me personally, I'm saying, 0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:01.399 So let's say they don't help, they better not help me. 0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:04.520 Are y'all still friends? 0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:10.280 Yes? Did they make that mistake? 0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:10.479 No? 0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:13.880 I made the mistake. I'm not going to have them 0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:17.000 fuck off their career that they worked hard for for 0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:21.040 thirty years of their life to attain because I fucked 0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.159 up at a bar drunk. That's my problem. I have 0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:23.840 to write that check. 0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:28.040 Not sure, but all three of the guys kicking your ass. 0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:30.520 I don't care if it's fifty of them. I wrote 0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:33.080 that check, not them. 0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:35.400 And I guess that's where it's different. Because we had 0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:40.720 a bottlegl fuck what you did, We're gonna be squabbling them? Yeah, No, 0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:45.320 I think And and maybe that is where maybe and 0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:47.959 maybe that's the greatest part of this conversation, because that's 0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:53.560 really what separates underworld life from on top. 0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:57.119 Of that and and and yeah, that's the point in 0:26:57.240 --> 0:27:00.880 underworld life. It's probably underworld people to deal with them 0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:05.159 like that. Again, those three those half doesn't whoever the 0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.239 hell smears my face up and down the parking lot 0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:08.960 outside of that bar. Because I talked to that girl, 0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:11.119 I don't have to deal with them anymore, not in 0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:11.840 a meaningful way. 0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:15.120 No, I agree totally. I definitely have said ample times. 0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:19.359 Your reputation is how you earn and survive where we're from, right, 0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:25.439 where I'm from, right, So I get it. But so 0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:28.000 the rules are different. But I'm trying to see how 0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:31.600 different are they anywhere else? Like, would you consider a 0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:33.800 friend somebody who let you get your apt Let's say 0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:34.960 you didn't do nothing wrong. 0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:37.720 If we were all nineteen or out of high school 0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:39.360 and it's you know, or you know, like the guys 0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:41.360 from the football team, would ever go out and get 0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:43.800 into a maine with the guys from the other football 0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.480 team at a house party, you know, and after school 0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:49.679 that's out in summer. Yeah, you're probably not gonna just 0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:52.800 be cool if you let that happen, it's gonna be 0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:54.400 a okay big so. 0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:57.840 At least ya wouldn't be cool, kind of be like crazy, Okay. 0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:06.480 I think that's what makes street urban culture what it is. Right, 0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:11.119 you don't have a regular set of morality in the 0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:14.520 mainstream world when you don't have church, Like all morality 0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:18.280 is created by a legal president or religious president. Is 0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:21.600 that fair to say? Like the laws determine how far 0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:27.280 you can go, or a religious instruction or a religious 0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:30.480 discipline instruction tell you how far you can go. Well, 0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.920 the street urban culture kind of creates their own thing 0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:37.080 right where you have to be down with your homeboy 0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.960 even if he wrong. Now, don't get me wrong. If 0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:43.320 my homie go talk and shit just and niggas, you 0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:45.600 know what I mean, two guys and they start a fighting, 0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:48.280 they start getting as I'm a jump in and help you, 0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:50.080 you know what I mean. Now, later on in the hood, 0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:52.920 we might have a problem later on. Me and that 0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:54.800 dude might have a problem later on because he didn't 0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:56.880 got me in some shit and got me into a fight. 0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:02.200 But at that specific moment, this person means enough to 0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:05.160 me to where I'm not gonna let y'all do anything 0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:07.320 to him, just an. 0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.479 Is there a component of this where, let's say, if 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:13.920 it's your only dealing with guys from the seven and 0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:16.200 only deal with other guys who are like put on 0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:22.000 someplace else where, it's a bad reflection on Seventh Street 0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:25.400 crypt in general, Like, you can't have that the perception 0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:30.040 be that anybody or whoever from over there can goop 0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:32.480 by somebody else. You have to protect that brand. 0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:35.120 Have them. That's the cornerstone. It's the reputation of pride 0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:37.720 of ego because poor people, that's all you have. So 0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:40.720 everything you earn is off of just that alone. Like 0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:43.000 people pay your debts back based off of what you 0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:45.600 will do to them. They don't. They don't pay your 0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:48.920 debts back because they're honorable. I just had this conversation 0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:51.959 with someone. I can't remember who it was, but I'm like, 0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.680 I don't act the way I'm acting because it's reciprocal, 0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.280 you know what I mean. The crip in me is 0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:02.200 not that person because it's reciprocal. It's because this is 0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:05.280 how everybody else is. I'm need because of how Olivia 0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:08.080 raised me. Right, So even let's pull it out of 0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:10.080 the rim of gangs and bring it back into just 0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:13.040 living right, how I interact with women. I treat a 0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:16.440 prostitute in a nun the same exact way if a 0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:18.440 prostitute was coming into a restaurant. 0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:22.280 I hold, oh, I didn't know if that you treated 0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.960 nuns like prostitutes or prostitutes like nuns. 0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:27.160 Or they all get treated the same, you know what 0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:29.760 I mean? On the meats, on the getting out right, 0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:32.440 it's like, you know what I mean, Like I would 0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:35.600 hold the door open for a nun or a prostitute, 0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:38.400 like they're the same. I would hold the door open 0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.080 because it's not a representation of who they are. It's 0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:44.440 a representation of who my mama was, who Olivia was. 0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:48.280 But I realized the type of intellect and discipline that 0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:51.920 that takes and requires to happen. And I also understand 0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:55.920 that most human beings don't operate in that space. Most 0:30:56.000 --> 0:31:00.640 human beings operate in the reciprocal space, you know what 0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.440 I mean, where it's like I'm gonna treat you how 0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:05.640 you desire to be treated, or I'm gonna treat you 0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:08.960 how you treat me. See, I'm the exact opposite. Even 0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:12.080 as a gang member, I'm not gonna treat a homie 0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.160 how they treat me. I'm gonna treat you how I 0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:18.320 treat anybody else I'm gonna treat I think I'm gonna 0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:23.200 treat the most markets person and the hardest person exactly 0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:26.600 the same until either one do some shit to me, 0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:28.720 and then the hardest nigg gonna have to prove you 0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:31.840 the hardest nigga, and then the markets nigga gonna actually 0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:33.560 have to get some guns because either way, if they 0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:37.000 violate me, foriman, we got a problem. 0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:41.160 Sure, I would say that to a large degree, most 0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:47.240 people are governed by deterrence micro and macro. You're not 0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:50.280 so much governed by deterrence. You're governed by your own 0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:56.800 personal standard. Because deterrence is I mean you, I'm sure 0:31:56.800 --> 0:32:01.000 on a given day you there's not enoughing. You'll dieveris 0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.200 you'll go to jail for this. Those are the deterrence 0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:04.760 if you don't care about those things and you're doing 0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:05.320 what you want. 0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:10.960 To do well being black in America and be a 0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:14.560 street in America, right, because it is they they're not 0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:17.080 the same. Because this is a whole bunch of Irish people. 0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:19.560 I tire people the street feel me. It's a lot 0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:24.480 of motherfucker uhuh Chicano Latin people streets. So being black 0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:28.560 and being street, I've realized something that makes me unique 0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:31.480 than a lot of people in America as well. The 0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:35.200 quality of my life is more important than the preservation itself. 0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:41.680 That's one thing that I really believe is the cornerstone 0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:45.360 to street urban culture or gang life, or whatever you 0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:48.760 want to call it. The quality of life is more 0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:52.120 important than life itself, than just the preservation. And I 0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:54.840 noticed that that's not common. Like we were me and 0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:57.480 the homies talking about the stuff that happened with Kodak 0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.480 Black and and Takashia, and they was like, oh, you 0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:03.240 know Glass, he paid him a million dollars. First off, 0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.880 that's just not true. I don't want to get into that. 0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.000 That's just not true. I don't give fuck how much 0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.400 bullshit they gonna put up. It's just not I just 0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:12.200 know the business well enough to know that that's not 0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:14.640 what you would pay, right. I don't care what it is. 0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:15.720 Right. 0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:19.280 But another thing that was important was to listen to 0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:24.560 people rationalize it and them just saying, like another guy tells, me, oh, well, 0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:27.280 you know, I don't care about street at street politics, 0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:30.240 and I'm like, this is not about street politics like 0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:33.440 this is about men being men, you know what I mean? 0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:37.160 Like and and the more I listened to him talk, 0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:41.040 I realized he didn't have a backbone, like he would 0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:44.360 suck a dick to stay alive. And that's to me 0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:49.360 how I feel like, Pete. I don't think you are 0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:52.320 no gangster. I do think there's a bit of outlaw 0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:54.760 in you. I don't think the law determines And I 0:33:54.760 --> 0:34:01.040 think even most what people referred to as conservative people, 0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:04.160 there is a greater sense of law. There is a 0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:09.000 really simple list of laws they fuck with and everything else. 0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:10.080 It could be whatever. 0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:16.880 They're very like real I'm like half conservative. People that 0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:20.280 are like really conservative are very very much they operate 0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:23.279 in a very strictly defined space because yeah, they very 0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:26.200 much respect the law, but they also very much are 0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:30.879 biblical people, so they respect that law too. So they're 0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:35.200 operating in a confine of layers of laws that they 0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:39.040 respect and attempt to adhere to their best ability all 0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:42.080 the time. It's a very restrictive mind style. 0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.520 It's funny because you're restrictive for me, and it's crazy 0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:49.799 because the way society is set up, because you would 0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:53.720 think liberal people would be the more adherent to rules 0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:58.520 and standards, and it's like no, Like, it's the exact opposite. 0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:04.239 Conservative and Republicans are more adherent to like rules and standards. 0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:07.400 Yeah, liberal people adhere to rules and standards when they 0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:12.280 have power and they're in charge and they're writing the rules. 0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:14.600 Do they then still? 0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:17.480 Yeah? 0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:20.879 I think they make the rules as they go. That's 0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:22.799 kind of the whole point of liberals, like, oh, every 0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:24.800 day it's a new rule because it might need to change. 0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.160 And it's like, well, I think the standard of life 0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:29.520 should stay the same. I think I think, no matter 0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:32.040 what's going on, we should keep the same standard. You 0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:35.640 know what I mean of living? I don't. It's like 0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:44.400 people dying because somebody is using a gun does not 0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:49.239 mean the solution is to outlaw gun. It depends on 0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:52.279 why the gun was created, what was the gun for, 0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:55.279 why was the gun ordained? If that purpose is no 0:35:55.360 --> 0:36:01.200 longer being served, I understand the rule change. True, But 0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:07.759 back to the point, should I lost my damn train 0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:12.680 of thought because motherfucker rules people? And uh oh okay, 0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:14.680 so yeah, I would treat it none and to prostitute 0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:18.799 the exact same way. So forth a song, So it 0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:22.520 doesn't matter to me, Like I realized people don't. So 0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:26.279 you need to shape society into a moral place for 0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:32.280 most human beings to have morals, Like I never thought 0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:35.640 in a million years, bro, Like I remember, I never 0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:39.600 had a problem with like the alphabet mafia, that movement. 0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:42.680 I'm like, it makes sense for me, I got it. 0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:45.640 I always thought liberally, like, oh that makes sense, you 0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.760 know what I mean, Like, shouldn't nobody be killed because 0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:51.560 you know, shouldn't nobody be discriminated against because of their 0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:54.880 sexual preference. I'm thinking like life and death, you know 0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:56.920 what I mean. I'm like, yo, I don't want to 0:36:56.920 --> 0:37:00.320 see nobody die because you know, like some guys sleeps 0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.959 with guys, you know what I mean. Like that ain't 0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:08.600 the solution. But I didn't mind the actual campaigns. I 0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:10.760 was like, okay, you want to make people more comfortable 0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:13.200 with it. Like I saw growing up, you know, people 0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:16.720 dying of age. My mom took care of termally ill patience, 0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:19.920 and at that time, you know, people really had aids, 0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.160 like the real aids, not the New Age, but like 0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.480 the real aid where you get them silver dollars sores, 0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:27.560 oh your body. So I met a lot of gay 0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:31.320 people in Beverly hills and really nice places, white people dying. 0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:34.360 So I always had like, I never thought of a 0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:36.400 gay person, it's different. I just thought that was just 0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:39.719 who you was fucking right. But I realized other people 0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:41.960 would pick on gay people, so I got it. But 0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:44.759 now sometimes I look and I'm not sure. And the 0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:48.760 only reason that is is because where the human condition 0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:53.720 is right now, Like I genuinely think there are people 0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:57.440 acting like they are gay to have people concerned and 0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.840 to feel like people care about them, to be relevant 0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:03.759 in other people's life. And there's nobody. You could have 0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:07.040 told me that somebody would act like they take a 0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:09.319 dick to be down. 0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:12.319 That's that's a that's a tough one. That's a that's 0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:15.160 a big ask. Yeah, and it's like it's a big as. 0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:16.080 I don't know about that. 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:23.680 I know it, Wow, I know it. Wow, I'm sure 0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:28.960 like I know people, Oh who are. 0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:35.520 I think that bud light guy like moved to Europe 0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:38.719 and looks like not so much like a girl and 0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:42.799 more is like yating a chick. I guess I think 0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:45.800 that's that's true. I have to have to verify that 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:46.480 if you have. 0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:51.640 The economic if you have the economic means, you can 0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:54.520 push your agenda through whoever people and people are. And 0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:58.240 it goes back to that conversation about like a Kodak 0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:00.880 doing a song with Takashi. It goes back to that, 0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:06.080 right cause it's like my issue with that whole thing 0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:12.040 was like, we're watching this guy right slowly show you like, oh, yo, 0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:15.040 he goes to these countries and these countries don't have 0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:16.799 black people, and you could tell that they don't care 0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:19.040 that he told on some black people, or in their 0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:21.759 mind they're like, oh, okay, you know what, you know 0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:23.560 there are criminals and he wasn't. And it's like the 0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:25.319 only reason you think he's not a criminal is because 0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:28.040 he's like you know what I mean, Like, if you 0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:30.000 look at his history, he's obviously a criminal. Like he 0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.240 understood it. He just knew that people didn't care about 0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:36.080 black people. So you show somebody that's pretty much at 0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:41.160 this point exploiting people that look like you. So when 0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:44.320 he said, hey, would you do this verse that stuff 0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:49.560 for way more than just hey, working with somebody who's unaccountable. 0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:54.799 It's the equivalent of a man saying, hey, can I 0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:58.359 fuck you and ask for a million dollars and then 0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:00.120 you feel like, well, I got a million dollars and 0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:04.759 you showed it to everybody. But it's like, yeah, like 0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:07.560 that's how it is. It's like, oh, like it's like 0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:10.759 money is not the ultimate solution. Money is not the 0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:13.960 ultimate goal. And that's what I think is getting lost 0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:15.960 in this world. And it's crazy because when you think 0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:19.080 about books like the Bible and different ideas, they talk 0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:24.400 about this time where money becomes so important to human beings, 0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:27.520 not even for a read, not even for a reasonable 0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:31.680 means of just staying alive, because just to having excess, 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.520 to feel like they are special, because they are tainted. 0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:38.200 Because Kodak Black is not somebody who really needed a 0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:41.839 million dollars from Takashi. Now I'm not saying Kodak Black 0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:43.640 can make a million dollars standing on top of his head, 0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:48.120 but Kodak Black is in Yeah, he can pretty much 0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:51.120 put together a run. So there is no reason I 0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:54.680 could see if he went paid some new rapper coming 0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:57.080 up out of Watch that was a real nigga out 0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:00.960 out of the nigger sins and he didn't have ship. Okay, 0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:06.480 I get it, you already got some money. You just 0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:09.319 wanted to stand no matter how he put it, you 0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:12.439 just wanted to stand and even like when I look 0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:14.920 at the whole scene, it's like the belief is you're 0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:17.840 like there's a group of people on the internet like 0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:20.799 they're lying from the campaign against the street, except they're 0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:22.920 all posing like their street. 0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:26.240 Yeah, that's funny. You know what, what would be interesting 0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:31.160 I would love to see if you could call here 0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:33.960 figure this out, like invest in afternoon in this for me. 0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:37.080 I want you to make whatever phone call you have 0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:39.399 to make to get the number to make whatever other 0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:41.200 phone call you have to make, so well you can 0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:43.840 do a compared and contrast, because I am willing to 0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:49.200 bet right now that sexy read the self professed prostitute 0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.040 would not do a sault with the Kashi six for 0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:57.560 the Moneywell god, and that's St. 0:41:57.600 --> 0:41:57.920 Louis. 0:41:57.960 --> 0:41:59.240 I'm not doing that shit. 0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:03.200 Man, because at the end of the day, motherfuckers really know, 0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:07.799 even if they can't articulate, what's their problem with somebody 0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:11.640 really snitching. It's a deep down thing when you just 0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:15.520 look like you. Even the police police be like whole 0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:20.320 ass nick Like nobody likes a motherfucking man who doesn't 0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:21.399 want to be accountable. 0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:27.200 Yeah, you ever see the guys like uh Verse forty 0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:30.880 eight when they're talking to the shooter and he cracks, 0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:34.000 they're like high fiving and shit. But then when they're 0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:36.000 talking to like the shooter's friend or the shooters and 0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:39.480 crackship but the snitch like sold them out, they all 0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:44.120 go the hallway and start laughing hysterically. They're not high 0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:47.160 fiving the same way. They're like, get here. They slam 0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:49.360 the door, bursting hysterics by the water cooler. 0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:54.440 Nobody respects it, and just somewhere along the line has 0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:58.960 been painted like it's just black. And that's my problem 0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:02.080 with that post. But that's also my problem when people 0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:05.280 talk about hip hop. Hip hop is street urban culture. 0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:08.359 I get it, and I promise myself I wouldn't say 0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:12.920 this publicly, but it's bothering me. It's too much. There's 0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:16.880 there's a space in Black America where people are ignoring 0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:21.160 the influences of street urban culture from Jewish people, from 0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:25.479 Italian people, from Irish people, and from Latino people into 0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:29.239 the shape of this culture or into all street urban cultures. 0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:32.840 It's the reason why every motherfucking hood or every gang 0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:37.920 got a capone that is not that's not a name 0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:41.759 that just you just made up. That's that's the motherfucking 0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:43.680 person obout. 0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:47.120 Like fivepers Gotti in their name, and so yeah, it's. 0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:51.560 A reason why Gotti isn't everybody's name. And it's just 0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:56.160 intellectually lazy and disingenuous to act like you don't recognize 0:43:56.400 --> 0:44:00.640 everybody else contribution to it. And and that's how I 0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:03.400 feel about this whole conversation even with that, like he 0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:08.759 specifically is catering that to just Black people, like the 0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:11.719 street life only belongs to us. And then you'll have 0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.680 people that will say, well, I ain't worried about nobody else. Well, 0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:17.360 if you're not accepting that this is a human condition 0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:21.440 of poor people around the world, then you're just not 0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:24.800 really And this is what I was telling Karan, brother, Karan, 0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:28.279 If you're not accepting that this is a condition for 0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:31.120 poor and oppressed people around the world, they're doing this 0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:35.680 shit everywhere, right, then then we're not having a really 0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:38.960 intelligent conversation. We're like, how do we solve one problem 0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:41.719 when this is everybody's problem? Or why is it just 0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:44.160 our problem when it is everybody problem? Like I hate 0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:47.200 that rhetoric that you know, black people, I don't what 0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:49.720 I don't like about gangers. You know, they don't target anybody, 0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:53.960 only black people. Well, Russia is targeting Ukraine. 0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:55.880 Yeah, And you can go back through history as far 0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:59.400 as stitching goes. You see that anytime that there's a 0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:03.600 resistance against an oppressive governing body, whether it's on the 0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:07.120 rise or on the fall, and they try to shake out, 0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:12.120 you know, their opposition, there's there's always gonna be degrees 0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:15.399 of strength among men and people who will sell out. 0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:17.799 You know, there's there's your Oscar Schindlers. Then there's the other, 0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:20.600 the other opposite person who says no, no, no, no no. 0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:21.600 Oh. 0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:23.560 You know what you know, the opposite of Oscar Schindler 0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:33.160 is George Soros's father. Wow, there's Schindler, or there's Sorows. Oh, 0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:35.400 I don't see any Jews here. I'm just running my 0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:38.239 train train full of Jews getting out of the you know, 0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.600 the gas chamber from Hitler or whatever Schendler's doing. We'll 0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:44.960 give you a million dollars. You can points to some Jews. Oh, 0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:48.480 thank you for Sorows. So they're over there at Schindler's absolutely, 0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:50.200 Now where's my check? 0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:53.440 And it's crazy because you think about it like if 0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:58.319 if if the law is your reasoning, Well, that's the 0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:01.680 same reason why people total lot of slag rebellions. Those 0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:05.160 slag rebellions were they were they were pretty much rated 0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:07.600 out by snitches. Dude who's on the plantations, Like, well, 0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:10.480 y'all breaking the law, and it's like, god, damn, you 0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:13.760 know what I mean. Like, like, I don't think nobody 0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:16.400 would be upset if you if you told the police 0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:19.759 on somebody murdering a four year old kid. Like if 0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:22.480 some guy murdered a four year old kid and you 0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:26.160 murdered a four year old kid and there's no movement exactly, 0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:29.080 nobody would be like, are you snitch as you told them? 0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:31.840 You know what I mean. Like niggas would be just like, damn, 0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:33.879 you know what I mean, You're you'll turn your back 0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:41.200 you because nobody all that guy snitch. If you were 0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:43.839 raped the girl, If you raped the girl and you 0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:46.120 called the police on your homies, you know what I mean, 0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:49.160 that was raping a five year old girl, nobody's gonna 0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:49.840 call you a snitch. 0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:52.239 No, they might be like, why did you just shoot him? 0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:56.040 But it's just you know what I mean. But but 0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:58.600 the point of being an outlaw is to handle things 0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:03.680 outside of the law. Yeah, out law outside of the law. 0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:07.680 So I think that expectation is just a lot for 0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:11.600 human beings to understand that lives their life within the law. 0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:16.719 But I'll be thinking some of this shit is so standard, 0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:20.040 Like I get what you're saying, Like, let's say you 0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:22.560 wrong in that situation, right, and that guy jump on 0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:24.760 you for trying to talk to his girl with his friends, 0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:26.880 and your homies don't help. Right, they don't help you 0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:29.839 because you was wrong. But what if you weren't wrong? 0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:32.680 What if they just start kicking your ass because it 0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:35.040 was kicked pete as day, I don't like your favors 0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:38.359 and they just start kicking your ass. I would expect 0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:41.640 I would hope you would expect your friends to help you. 0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:46.000 Maybe it ain't no got the greatest hands, you know 0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:48.479 what I'm saying, But I would hope that you would 0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:51.000 expect your friends to stand up with you. And I 0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:51.719 think that's the. 0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:55.120 Just do the right thing, you know what I mean, 0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:57.640 Do the right thing, Let the right thing, Let the 0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:00.600 right thing be done. I'll say that I'm what's the. 0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:03.239 Right thing at that point? Like, would you be bad 0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:05.080 at me if two guys was kicking your ass and 0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:07.120 you was wrong and I helped you. Glass, I'm not 0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:08.839 fucking you just going to throw your life away from 0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:16.440 helping me. I hope it is way for. 0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:20.200 You and your family. I'd be pretty damn disappointed you 0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:21.520 be like, all the fuck you do that. I've had 0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:23.799 that one coming. I had it coming to me. Why 0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:26.319 the fuck do you funk over the people close to 0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:29.920 you like that? They rely on you. I'm a ship 0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:32.439 throw out. 0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:36.400 That's this is a really interesting conversation right here. You 0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:39.440 know what I mean because my brother, my younger brother, 0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:41.960 I respected him, but he got a lot of homeboys 0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:44.200 out of the situation that he got him in, and 0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:47.080 he got him out of it by being accountable. And 0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:50.520 so again it's still rooted than masculinity. Even your stands 0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:53.040 is you know, both of our stances is right. My 0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:55.120 stand is right for helping you because I'm your friend 0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:56.719 and I'm a man, and I'm like, you're not going 0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:58.840 to jump on my friend because I have. 0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:01.879 To contribute, take and I don't want to take more 0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:03.280 than I contributed to the situation. 0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:09.799 But what if you're not wrong? What if it's just 0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:10.839 kick pete as day? 0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:13.959 If that's what I said, then then what's right should 0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:14.359 be done? 0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:16.560 I mean, then what's right as I jump in and 0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:18.880 make sure that they don't get your. 0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:21.480 Ass to that, right, that's that's the just thing at 0:49:21.480 --> 0:49:23.440 that point. Yeah, that's the just thing because because then 0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:26.520 because then they're the wrong doers. If I'm the wrong 0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:32.000 doer and their justice, don't fight justice. If they're the 0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:39.680 wrong doer and we're justice, we gotta fight them. 0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:42.520 Good looking out for tuning into The note Seller's podcast. 0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:45.560 Please do us a favorite, subscribe, rate, comment, and share. 0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:48.359 This episode was recorded right here on the West coast 0:49:48.400 --> 0:49:51.640 of the USA. I produced by my homeboys A King 0:49:51.719 --> 0:50:01.680 for the Black Effect Podcast Network and now Hard Radio. Yeah.