Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealer's podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: loaw glasses, Malone, Pete dog.
Speaker 2: Man back back like I never left it. Back from
Speaker 2: a bit.
Speaker 1: Of miatas Man. I see, man, you Internet the Internet
Speaker 1: down in Florida. I heard they the santis and ship
Speaker 1: that ship crazy down there with the Internet.
Speaker 2: I didn't have the Internet problems with like the Internet
Speaker 2: at a large scale. I just had an issue with
Speaker 2: AT and T and then issue with Exfinity.
Speaker 1: I say, Florida is getting third world country right now.
Speaker 2: My liberal told me, My liberal homie told me Florida
Speaker 2: this is going third world right now. It's so dude,
Speaker 2: Like my boy Kai from Dorsey was out here this weekend.
Speaker 2: Shout outs to Kai, and thanks for not telling me.
Speaker 2: But we had a good time. When when I caught
Speaker 2: him on his Instagram story on South Beach, you had
Speaker 2: to call him and tell him, hey, what the help.
Speaker 2: But we were going around to see He's like, man,
Speaker 2: I can't believe how cleaning this, how big, and how
Speaker 2: nice it got so much cool he was. He was
Speaker 2: amazed by.
Speaker 1: Florida is nice. I mean in Miami, the crazy thing
Speaker 1: about Miami and it fucked me up, right because this
Speaker 1: is the thing about hip hop, right, and hip hop
Speaker 1: is street urban culture, even the arts express you know,
Speaker 1: the music part of it, right is when you're listening
Speaker 1: to people talk about places and they don't tell you
Speaker 1: key ingredients that make these places really unique. Right, Like
Speaker 1: when you go to Atlanta and like you hear all
Speaker 1: these great stories about blah blah blah, this, that and
Speaker 1: the third, but then you know this, like the black
Speaker 1: homosexual population is crazy, like almost like so it takes
Speaker 1: you off goard because no rapper put that in their
Speaker 1: song like it was happening. And I don't care how
Speaker 1: many outcast albums I listen to, you know how many
Speaker 1: Tip albums I listen to, No matter how many j
Speaker 1: Z's Jermaine Dupriez, none of those albums prepared me for
Speaker 1: that culture. You know, that culture class that getting off
Speaker 1: the plane and walking through that airport in Atlanta hit
Speaker 1: me with. Well, the same thing is for Miami. Like
Speaker 1: when you leave off Collins, you know, you leave off
Speaker 1: the beach and you're driving through fucking Miami and it's
Speaker 1: like the ghetto. Soon as you leave the beach, it's
Speaker 1: like it's right there, and nobody prepares you because all
Speaker 1: you hear is about the girls in Miami and this,
Speaker 1: that and the third. As soon as you leave Collins,
Speaker 1: your ass will get robbed.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's it's it's pushed back a bit now, but yo,
Speaker 2: it's there's no medium. There's like, there's no medium.
Speaker 1: It's the phase. Is the fade? Go from hair to
Speaker 1: board instantly?
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, it's it's it's not a fade, it's
Speaker 2: more like a burned scar.
Speaker 1: It's just like, yeah, yes, that's how I feel about it.
Speaker 1: You go right from Collins to trouble.
Speaker 2: That's what's so interesting. Now, we were out in this
Speaker 2: area called Winwood and Winwood if you were here an
Speaker 2: old trick Daddy's songs you know from Book of Thugs,
Speaker 2: and say that he's talking about all these neighborhoods. He's
Speaker 2: talking about Winwood when Wood is the arts, it's the
Speaker 2: party district. Now it's like hipstery and nightclubs and all
Speaker 2: that shit. It is behind over Town and on the
Speaker 2: other side of Little Haiti. It's just like you leave
Speaker 2: the designated parking area, you're into projects. You're hearing the
Speaker 2: old school Miami projects right outside the club. I cannot
Speaker 2: believe that those guys, God bless them. The police must
Speaker 2: have gone door to door and said, don't you fuck
Speaker 2: with those kids over there, because if I lived over there,
Speaker 2: it would be like turning Willowbrook into the Arts District
Speaker 2: and expecting the guys from fucking PJS not to rob
Speaker 2: every jackass coming out of the nightclub drunk every fucking
Speaker 2: Saturday atm Machine. I don't know how they convinced him
Speaker 2: not to walk over there.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's how the Hit Factory is. When I would
Speaker 1: be with Stunner, shout out to Stunner, Birdman, tune, little Wayne,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole team, cast money. But like you
Speaker 1: walk out of the Hit Factories, the Projects is across
Speaker 1: the street. No, that's in Miami, so you I don't
Speaker 1: think you've been to the Hit Factory studios yet, but
Speaker 1: Hit Factory where the studios at right across the street
Speaker 1: is the Projects. That's why they got that big ass
Speaker 1: gate up around Hit Factory like that. So, but something
Speaker 1: was on my mind. First off, no seilings, gl in
Speaker 1: the spot, doing what I do. My boy Pete back online,
Speaker 1: back blazing, and my leg is feeling strong. Still not perfect,
Speaker 1: but it's feeling wrong and we're finna get back to
Speaker 1: really showering. You know, everybody that enjoys no ceilings with
Speaker 1: a ton of episodes, fuck if they paying form, fuck
Speaker 1: what they make. This is just what we do. So
Speaker 1: we about to ramp it up like we did last
Speaker 1: year around this time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we won't stop.
Speaker 1: That's because motherfuckers can't fuck with us. Yeah, motherfuckers can't
Speaker 1: fuck with us. And it needs to be understood. But
Speaker 1: I was reading something and it's weird because I never
Speaker 1: talked him to the person who posted this. And this
Speaker 1: person that posted this is a legend in the game.
Speaker 1: He's a legend in the game responsible for part of
Speaker 1: DJ Quick's career. But he says on this post, it says, hey,
Speaker 1: gang bankers and street hustlers over forty five years Oh now,
Speaker 1: I'm not over forty five years old. I'm not forty
Speaker 1: five yet. Yeah, it's gonna be a while. I don't
Speaker 1: think you got the memo. Nobody youthful cares about your
Speaker 1: snitching or he says, nobody youthful cares about your no
Speaker 1: snitching code anymore, and very few folks care about what
Speaker 1: you did in the streets in the eighties, nineties or
Speaker 1: early two thousands, knock it off and retire. We've heard
Speaker 1: all your stories. Now. I read that and it was
Speaker 1: super in scendiary sure to me, right, because there's like
Speaker 1: this really weird it's either ignorant or disingenuous message going
Speaker 1: around in mainstream America that the streets are not the streets, right,
Speaker 1: And I get.
Speaker 2: Did you elaborate a little bit on that? So give
Speaker 2: me the streets on other streets.
Speaker 1: You're hearing all of these stories right where they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, the streets are a myth. Troy av that's
Speaker 1: his thing. You know, he's said, oh, you know, things
Speaker 1: happen in the streets that it's not true. The rules,
Speaker 1: you know, the gang life is it's not real. And
Speaker 1: it's like or like this particularly thing, right, nobody youthful
Speaker 1: cares about your no snitching code, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Or I wouldn't argue with anything that guy said. You could,
Speaker 2: you might not. I think it's the greatest.
Speaker 1: Well, it's just untrue. Well it's the problem with it
Speaker 1: is it's untrue, right, because so what the average person
Speaker 1: that's consuming content is getting, right is story. So they're
Speaker 1: hearing the stories of six ' nine. They're hearing the
Speaker 1: stories of this rapper, They're hearing stories from YouTubers. The
Speaker 1: streets are still the streets. If you tell on somebody
Speaker 1: outside of you should be totally ashamed. And I'm talking
Speaker 1: about really telling, not you know, not the bullshit kind
Speaker 1: of telling. I mean, like you really are informing the
Speaker 1: police on someone else's crime to get less time, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, to get less time in exchange
Speaker 1: for whatever crime you committed. You know, the lack of accountability.
Speaker 1: That's a real standard thing in all criminal worlds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so outside of you should be ashamed for being like
Speaker 1: a whole ass nigga not wanting to just personally be
Speaker 1: accountable for your own actions. Right, you may get killed
Speaker 1: most likely, Like a lot of these people were talking about,
Speaker 1: don't fragnize with the people, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: that still believe in these things. A lot of these
Speaker 1: people that people are seeing on YouTube are not in
Speaker 1: the streets anymore. And as a professional rapper, I don't
Speaker 1: hang out on the seven like I used to. No
Speaker 1: matter if I still abide the same rules or the
Speaker 1: same caught the same thoughts, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: the same code or ethics of conduct. I You'll live
Speaker 1: by them even if I'm not hanging out. But it's
Speaker 1: another thing to believe and to lead people into saying
Speaker 1: that they don't believe that there are fucking twenty some
Speaker 1: year old kids that are running around the streets that
Speaker 1: believe that shit wholeheartedly and will blow your motherfucking head
Speaker 1: off behind it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean I kind of look
Speaker 2: at you can see it, you know, like in larger,
Speaker 2: like a broader spectrum like all these there's like a
Speaker 2: whole trend of like YouTube pseudo celebrity former Mafia guys
Speaker 2: that snitched out of time or whatever, and they you know,
Speaker 2: kind of surfaced after twenty years of being you know,
Speaker 2: off the grid or whatever the hell, and they're like, no,
Speaker 2: now I'm gonna be you know, do a YouTube thing
Speaker 2: and talk about Yeah, I've been talking about all my
Speaker 2: old Mafia stories after I snitched my way out of
Speaker 2: getting seventeen life sentences and I got ten years this
Speaker 2: snitch and ass sure, yeah him, that other guy Francis.
Speaker 2: There's you know, it's a Chicago guy that did this.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of there's no shortage of it. I mean,
Speaker 2: you can any mob town with a family. There's got
Speaker 2: a YouTube guy. Now, sure, you know, so they're they're
Speaker 2: walking around. I wouldn't want to do that if I
Speaker 2: was active in thirty five and in that lifestyle, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to press that button.
Speaker 1: But well, this is the thing, right, those people are
Speaker 1: not around people of the life. And another thing, those
Speaker 1: people are also not in position or a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't know where these people are, Like, they're not
Speaker 1: they don't live in Boston.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but these guys got like speaking engagements on the internet.
Speaker 1: They really don't have speaking engagements. They're not marketing, they're
Speaker 1: speaking engagements like you would think. Again, sometimes it looks
Speaker 1: a little bit more transparent than it is because rust
Speaker 1: is sure there's somebody still looking to blow Sammy the
Speaker 1: Bull's head off. They'll never forget huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't doubt that at all. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's they're old now. I mean that's and I think
Speaker 2: where I was going with it was when snitches represented
Speaker 2: one percent of the outfit. It was one thing. When
Speaker 2: everything gets federalized and penalties go from oh yeah, you
Speaker 2: do whatever, you're gonna get two years to now you
Speaker 2: do anything, you're gonna get thirty, you're gonna get one
Speaker 2: hundred of your thousand years. The percentage of snitching has
Speaker 2: grown an awful lot, you know, is there's an impact
Speaker 2: on that, on the fact that.
Speaker 1: I still think. I still think though, in any any
Speaker 1: criminal outfit, you know, because that could be the police,
Speaker 1: that could be a group of the police, all the
Speaker 1: way down to a street game, there's still gonna be
Speaker 1: very few snitches. And I think that's the confusion where
Speaker 1: it's frustrating to watch people mislead other people like this
Speaker 1: is the common conduct. And I saw another thing where
Speaker 1: somebody was telling them people like and it was weird
Speaker 1: because I was talking to one of my own boys,
Speaker 1: brother Karon, really smart brothers shout out the brother Karon
Speaker 1: got a doctorate, super smart, and we were talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, he was talking about gang life. He was like,
Speaker 1: glass as you know, man, it needs to be some
Speaker 1: kind of rules. And I'm like, he's like, you know,
Speaker 1: people don't oh bide by the rules. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: there are really never been rules in the gang, right,
Speaker 1: Like That's why I kind of really funny about a DP,
Speaker 1: because there are no written rules when you first jump
Speaker 1: off the porch and decide that you're going to be
Speaker 1: a part of the criminal organization that you call a gang.
Speaker 1: You don't sign a contract of conduct. You don't say
Speaker 1: here's the rules. No different than being in America, right,
Speaker 1: and the laws. You're not taught the laws. I taught
Speaker 1: the laws growing up, like you would think they would
Speaker 1: teach that in school. Here are the laws. If you
Speaker 1: break any of these laws, you're going to jail. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like these ideas, right that are like unspoken,
Speaker 1: you know, known things. I was explaining to somebody on Instagram,
Speaker 1: like even like with a DP, like, right, I was
Speaker 1: looking at somebody get DP by like seven people, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not the DP. They they put you off.
Speaker 1: If they called that a discipline, you tripping. You need
Speaker 1: to be shooting at them and never deal with them again.
Speaker 1: And I was on Instagram lib and me and my
Speaker 1: homeboy was talking about it, and we were talking about
Speaker 1: ideas that can get you dp'ed in the gang. Right,
Speaker 1: And it's like this DP stands for discipline for people
Speaker 1: who didn't know, it's a disciplinary procedure when you you know,
Speaker 1: and honestly, this is my point, when you actually when
Speaker 1: you actually disappoint homies.
Speaker 2: Do you remember when we did that live show for
Speaker 2: I think it was there was all kinds of people
Speaker 2: that I forgot who we were talking to. It was
Speaker 2: the one we did outside It was it was it
Speaker 2: wass chronicles. Yeah, you were talking about a story of
Speaker 2: some guy was it was locked up. It was just
Speaker 2: some fun and everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And it's funny because I remember, oh Yea
Speaker 1: had the conversation with Mab James about like me and
Speaker 1: James disagree on one particular thing about what a gangster
Speaker 1: or a gang banger is like, and a lot of
Speaker 1: g homies really feel like the only person that's gangsters
Speaker 1: is the infantry. And I'm like, that's pretty much the
Speaker 1: firstest thing from the truth on all scales. And when
Speaker 1: you think like that, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: you kind of missed the big picture and you're usually
Speaker 1: going to become a relic or you're gonna be somebody
Speaker 1: that's gonna be totally disappointed, if that makes sense. If
Speaker 1: you think think only the infantry is a real gang
Speaker 1: member or a real gangster, you're going to leave gang
Speaker 1: bang very disappointed or you're gonna like have a hard
Speaker 1: time it's not gonna work out for you because you
Speaker 1: gonna realize it's a lot of respect for certain people
Speaker 1: that necessarily are not part of the infantry. Why its
Speaker 1: respect is different. Like at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: street urban culture is rooted in masculinity. You know it
Speaker 1: sounds crazy, right, Pete, but you can relate because you
Speaker 1: kind of studied the mafia a little bit, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You know, it's about being a man.
Speaker 1: All gangsism on every street level, on every street urban level,
Speaker 1: is about being a man. Right. That's why snitching is
Speaker 1: fround the plant we've talked about. This is because you're
Speaker 1: going out like a girl, like real snitching where you
Speaker 1: tell the police because they gonna give you ten years,
Speaker 1: and you like, well not to do these ten years.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Billy, did you know? I mean,
Speaker 1: that's some girl shit. Being unaccountable is considered a woman.
Speaker 1: You know, we created that space, like we always say
Speaker 1: women to be unaccountable. So that's why it's frowned upon.
Speaker 1: It's frowned upon because it's unmasculine to not be accountable,
Speaker 1: right it ghead.
Speaker 2: I will say, it's you know, the dynamic always kind
Speaker 2: of centers around reinforcing a hierarchy of masculinity and respect,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So if you're up here,
Speaker 2: you think you're up here, and you do something down here,
Speaker 2: you're gonna physically get put down here. It's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you want to be at the bottom, We're all physically
Speaker 2: put you at the bottom. You have something stupid in incarceration,
Speaker 2: they're gonna physically correct you, you know, saying anywhere else,
Speaker 2: because that's that's where the respect really, I think, kind
Speaker 2: of rests upon. Is the physical more so than like,
Speaker 2: oh we're going to take you the civil court over this.
Speaker 1: Not sure? Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. And it's it's a
Speaker 1: bit primitive, it's very primitive.
Speaker 2: But it's the most efficient.
Speaker 1: It's efficient, and it's the way it's conducted at the
Speaker 1: lowest levels. Excuse me, lowest that's the wrong word. Lowest levels,
Speaker 1: the lowest financial places in life and the wealthiest places
Speaker 1: in life. Everybody has the same mind state between those
Speaker 1: the bottom and the top economically. So the point I
Speaker 1: was making was it's so many people that are YouTubers,
Speaker 1: that are content creators, and that are even rappers that
Speaker 1: are masking what's really going on. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because they're not a part of it. So it just
Speaker 1: bothers me when I hear shit like that. I was
Speaker 1: listening to a dude like back to Brother k Ron
Speaker 1: and he was telling me, he was like, yeah, ge,
Speaker 1: you know, man, you know it's no rules, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: there never were rules, like you don't sign a contract
Speaker 1: when you get put on, you know, even the the
Speaker 1: DP part of it. Like I said, That's why I
Speaker 1: always struggle with it, because it's like nobody sit you
Speaker 1: down and say, here are the rules, because you know what,
Speaker 1: the fucking cornerstone rule of all of this shit is,
Speaker 1: be a fucking man. Yeah, in the most primitive sense,
Speaker 1: if a motherfucker go disrespect.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 1: Kick his ass, or at tend to kick his ass.
Speaker 1: If your friend you know where to get your DP
Speaker 1: running out on the squabble, if your homeboys are squabbling
Speaker 1: with some other guys, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: you run out, that may get you disciplined. There's no
Speaker 1: rule that says you have to fight, right, there's no rule,
Speaker 1: but if you don't, you, as a man, you're frowned upon. Right.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think that comes back to a
Speaker 2: very foundational definition of what it is to be a man.
Speaker 2: Like I've said, you know before, kind of touch and go.
Speaker 2: Like men are producers and women are consumers. You're supposed
Speaker 2: to leave more at the table than you take from it,
Speaker 2: so to speak. In the bigger picture, if you're running
Speaker 2: around taking more from people around you, then you're giving
Speaker 2: to the people around you. There's not a long, you know,
Speaker 2: long rope for that. Eventually, that's that's going to expire
Speaker 2: pretty quickly, matter what you're doing.
Speaker 1: I like that a lot. I like that a lot. Pete,
Speaker 1: you've never been a gangster, but don't some of these
Speaker 1: same rules apply to you as a man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I've been around a lot
Speaker 2: of that kind of different communities. I've been around, you know,
Speaker 2: gangsters for twenty years. You know.
Speaker 1: Let's say you're not around gangsters. Let's say it's you
Speaker 1: and you don't really got a lot of the times.
Speaker 1: But let's say, hey, it's a tie sence. You guys
Speaker 1: start kicking tie ass like a regular white guy from.
Speaker 2: Okay, honey, that's that's yeah, that's that's everybody I knew
Speaker 2: before I was probably twenty years old, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, right, So let's say you and Todd, right,
Speaker 1: because you and Todd and two guys start kicking todd ass.
Speaker 1: What is the civilian way to deal with that?
Speaker 2: And what's funny is you just what they call the police?
Speaker 1: Why he's getting his ass?
Speaker 2: Well, no, you gotta get in there. You kind of
Speaker 2: gotta get in there. It depends kind of also, because
Speaker 2: situations like that don't tend to I wouldn't say recur,
Speaker 2: but they're not going to create a cycle, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So, like, if Todd gets too drunk
Speaker 2: at the bar and mouths off and throws a drink
Speaker 2: in some girl's face and his boyfriend, his boyfriend friend
Speaker 2: go and beat the shit out of him, and you
Speaker 2: know that that's exactly what happened, You're gonna, you know,
Speaker 2: keep an eye on it, make sure Todd doesn't get
Speaker 2: killed in the back. But Todd, you asked for that one.
Speaker 1: Todd.
Speaker 2: I'm We're not all going to fuck up our careers
Speaker 2: because you're an idiot. Okay, you wrote that check what if?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So what if Todd there's a drink in
Speaker 1: somebody's face and three people started to kick his.
Speaker 2: Ass, whatever the number is, you just got to kind
Speaker 2: of make like it's funny, this is weird. This is
Speaker 2: a very very similar situation happened with me probably the
Speaker 2: last time. I was in our mid twenties or something
Speaker 2: like that and went out for drinks and Newport with
Speaker 2: my friends from high school. Everybody was wasted except for me,
Speaker 2: because I had to drive off the peninsula and it's
Speaker 2: like a gauntlet of dui traps to get off of there.
Speaker 2: So I was like, I'm not sure so, which is bizarre,
Speaker 2: because I mean, a n driving.
Speaker 1: Is a miracle.
Speaker 2: But for whatever reason, that night, I wasn't gonna take
Speaker 2: a drunk.
Speaker 1: It was no day, this was your day.
Speaker 2: So we go to this thing and somehow I think
Speaker 2: I'm not somehow I know how, but there's a handful
Speaker 2: of people down there that like perceive me as being
Speaker 2: like adjacent to like the criminal underworld. So like one
Speaker 2: of my friends got in started some shit, and there
Speaker 2: was four of them, four of my friends who were trashed, trashed,
Speaker 2: and then like five or six other guys who wanted
Speaker 2: to just smear their faces in the parking lot. And
Speaker 2: two of those guys, the other guys knew me, So
Speaker 2: I stood in the middle of this thing. Tried to
Speaker 2: my friends couldn't defend themselves. I wasn't gonna fight six
Speaker 2: guys over these idiots, so I've tried to make sure
Speaker 2: that this doesn't really go down with that. These guys
Speaker 2: are oh oh, bro, bro, I didn't know it was zoo.
Speaker 2: Don't get mad at me, and I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: even like you, like we're not friends. Just I just
Speaker 2: want these guys to leave. They can't hardly walk. So
Speaker 2: I look around and no one touched me. One guy
Speaker 2: had my friend and the headlock hit him in the head.
Speaker 2: I grabbed the dude. I throw them on the ground.
Speaker 2: He didn't touch me. Another guy's touched me to the face.
Speaker 2: I grabbed him through him. No one touched I know.
Speaker 2: I was the only person that didn't get touched. It
Speaker 2: was the strangest thing in the world. Everybody got hit
Speaker 2: in the face two three times. No one put a
Speaker 2: finger on me. It was bizarre. I don't know what
Speaker 2: to make of it. And then and then the security came,
Speaker 2: and of course security then goes and grabs me and
Speaker 2: nobody else but me, and some old lady who owns
Speaker 2: the bar ran up behind me and grabbed my shirt,
Speaker 2: and I turned in like swung, and I swung across
Speaker 2: the arms of the old lady who grabbed my shirt,
Speaker 2: and then everybody spazed out of me, of course, but
Speaker 2: nothing really happened. We all made it out of there.
Speaker 1: Okay, everyone's crazy going on? Would you do that? One?
Speaker 1: Fucking peete bro?
Speaker 2: So, I mean it kind of depends. There's a there's
Speaker 2: more of a long play mentality like where I grew up,
Speaker 2: you know then, maybe more so than when you where
Speaker 2: you grew up to to that degree, and because you
Speaker 2: know it has to do with with degrees of potential risk.
Speaker 2: You know your your risk is going to be greater
Speaker 2: in the short term. You know you do let's should
Speaker 2: get out of hand of the short term and what
Speaker 2: it's that's there's not going to be a long term.
Speaker 2: You do something stupid and Newport, Yeah, you're gonna get
Speaker 2: a shiner. What you're gonna get if a nose busted open,
Speaker 2: that's as bad about as bad as probably gonna get
Speaker 2: it for you. But you fuck around to put something
Speaker 2: on your record. Now you aren't gonna be on the bar,
Speaker 2: you aren't gonna be a lawyer, and now we're gonna
Speaker 2: be selling insurance and making that ten ten cents on
Speaker 2: the dollar what you were previously supposed to be making.
Speaker 2: That's gonna fuck up your whole life. So it's it's
Speaker 2: it's a different calculation.
Speaker 1: Sure so, but the original point the idea right where
Speaker 1: let's say, if let's say is you you're the dump one.
Speaker 1: You flirt with a girl.
Speaker 2: This is very f You just flirting with the girl.
Speaker 1: Because it's sure something you can relate to, right, You
Speaker 1: flirting with a girl. You Todd Jim, Jim tie Jim
Speaker 1: over there, dragon, You flirt with the girl, the girl
Speaker 1: on you. Her boyfriend comes up. Boyfriend comes up with
Speaker 1: the home irrational upset see you talking to us? Girl,
Speaker 1: they start kicking your ads. Yeah, they get on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're kicking your ass.
Speaker 2: Where am I?
Speaker 1: You're at a bar?
Speaker 2: Where is this bar? Uh?
Speaker 1: Let's say this is and who would I be in with?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm down there? Okay, Huh, I didn't know what
Speaker 2: I'm annoying. I'm annoyed yet.
Speaker 1: So you're a Huntington beat So you're not you're not
Speaker 1: in the home stronger grounds a Newport, But you're a
Speaker 1: Huntington beach, right, But I'm not with my plea people
Speaker 1: that yeah, you with your people like nineteen eighteen year
Speaker 1: old people, but y'all grown. Yeah, and Todd Jim is
Speaker 1: your guys. And these three guys kicking your ass because
Speaker 1: you was talking to this girl. You didn't know this
Speaker 1: was this guy's wife. So you're talking to this girl.
Speaker 1: They come, they kicking your ass. If Todd and Jim
Speaker 1: don't help you, are you guys still friends?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want them to to me personally, I'm saying,
Speaker 2: So let's say they don't help, they better not help me.
Speaker 1: Are y'all still friends?
Speaker 2: Yes? Did they make that mistake?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I made the mistake. I'm not going to have them
Speaker 2: fuck off their career that they worked hard for for
Speaker 2: thirty years of their life to attain because I fucked
Speaker 2: up at a bar drunk. That's my problem. I have
Speaker 2: to write that check.
Speaker 1: Not sure, but all three of the guys kicking your ass.
Speaker 2: I don't care if it's fifty of them. I wrote
Speaker 2: that check, not them.
Speaker 1: And I guess that's where it's different. Because we had
Speaker 1: a bottlegl fuck what you did, We're gonna be squabbling them? Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I think And and maybe that is where maybe and
Speaker 1: maybe that's the greatest part of this conversation, because that's
Speaker 1: really what separates underworld life from on top.
Speaker 2: Of that and and and yeah, that's the point in
Speaker 2: underworld life. It's probably underworld people to deal with them
Speaker 2: like that. Again, those three those half doesn't whoever the
Speaker 2: hell smears my face up and down the parking lot
Speaker 2: outside of that bar. Because I talked to that girl,
Speaker 2: I don't have to deal with them anymore, not in
Speaker 2: a meaningful way.
Speaker 1: No, I agree totally. I definitely have said ample times.
Speaker 1: Your reputation is how you earn and survive where we're from, right,
Speaker 1: where I'm from, right, So I get it. But so
Speaker 1: the rules are different. But I'm trying to see how
Speaker 1: different are they anywhere else? Like, would you consider a
Speaker 1: friend somebody who let you get your apt Let's say
Speaker 1: you didn't do nothing wrong.
Speaker 2: If we were all nineteen or out of high school
Speaker 2: and it's you know, or you know, like the guys
Speaker 2: from the football team, would ever go out and get
Speaker 2: into a maine with the guys from the other football
Speaker 2: team at a house party, you know, and after school
Speaker 2: that's out in summer. Yeah, you're probably not gonna just
Speaker 2: be cool if you let that happen, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a okay big so.
Speaker 1: At least ya wouldn't be cool, kind of be like crazy, Okay.
Speaker 1: I think that's what makes street urban culture what it is. Right,
Speaker 1: you don't have a regular set of morality in the
Speaker 1: mainstream world when you don't have church, Like all morality
Speaker 1: is created by a legal president or religious president. Is
Speaker 1: that fair to say? Like the laws determine how far
Speaker 1: you can go, or a religious instruction or a religious
Speaker 1: discipline instruction tell you how far you can go. Well,
Speaker 1: the street urban culture kind of creates their own thing
Speaker 1: right where you have to be down with your homeboy
Speaker 1: even if he wrong. Now, don't get me wrong. If
Speaker 1: my homie go talk and shit just and niggas, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, two guys and they start a fighting,
Speaker 1: they start getting as I'm a jump in and help you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Now, later on in the hood,
Speaker 1: we might have a problem later on. Me and that
Speaker 1: dude might have a problem later on because he didn't
Speaker 1: got me in some shit and got me into a fight.
Speaker 1: But at that specific moment, this person means enough to
Speaker 1: me to where I'm not gonna let y'all do anything
Speaker 1: to him, just an.
Speaker 2: Is there a component of this where, let's say, if
Speaker 2: it's your only dealing with guys from the seven and
Speaker 2: only deal with other guys who are like put on
Speaker 2: someplace else where, it's a bad reflection on Seventh Street
Speaker 2: crypt in general, Like, you can't have that the perception
Speaker 2: be that anybody or whoever from over there can goop
Speaker 2: by somebody else. You have to protect that brand.
Speaker 1: Have them. That's the cornerstone. It's the reputation of pride
Speaker 1: of ego because poor people, that's all you have. So
Speaker 1: everything you earn is off of just that alone. Like
Speaker 1: people pay your debts back based off of what you
Speaker 1: will do to them. They don't. They don't pay your
Speaker 1: debts back because they're honorable. I just had this conversation
Speaker 1: with someone. I can't remember who it was, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't act the way I'm acting because it's reciprocal,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. The crip in me is
Speaker 1: not that person because it's reciprocal. It's because this is
Speaker 1: how everybody else is. I'm need because of how Olivia
Speaker 1: raised me. Right, So even let's pull it out of
Speaker 1: the rim of gangs and bring it back into just
Speaker 1: living right, how I interact with women. I treat a
Speaker 1: prostitute in a nun the same exact way if a
Speaker 1: prostitute was coming into a restaurant.
Speaker 2: I hold, oh, I didn't know if that you treated
Speaker 2: nuns like prostitutes or prostitutes like nuns.
Speaker 1: Or they all get treated the same, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? On the meats, on the getting out right,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know what I mean, Like I would
Speaker 1: hold the door open for a nun or a prostitute,
Speaker 1: like they're the same. I would hold the door open
Speaker 1: because it's not a representation of who they are. It's
Speaker 1: a representation of who my mama was, who Olivia was.
Speaker 1: But I realized the type of intellect and discipline that
Speaker 1: that takes and requires to happen. And I also understand
Speaker 1: that most human beings don't operate in that space. Most
Speaker 1: human beings operate in the reciprocal space, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, where it's like I'm gonna treat you how
Speaker 1: you desire to be treated, or I'm gonna treat you
Speaker 1: how you treat me. See, I'm the exact opposite. Even
Speaker 1: as a gang member, I'm not gonna treat a homie
Speaker 1: how they treat me. I'm gonna treat you how I
Speaker 1: treat anybody else I'm gonna treat I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: treat the most markets person and the hardest person exactly
Speaker 1: the same until either one do some shit to me,
Speaker 1: and then the hardest nigg gonna have to prove you
Speaker 1: the hardest nigga, and then the markets nigga gonna actually
Speaker 1: have to get some guns because either way, if they
Speaker 1: violate me, foriman, we got a problem.
Speaker 2: Sure, I would say that to a large degree, most
Speaker 2: people are governed by deterrence micro and macro. You're not
Speaker 2: so much governed by deterrence. You're governed by your own
Speaker 2: personal standard. Because deterrence is I mean you, I'm sure
Speaker 2: on a given day you there's not enoughing. You'll dieveris
Speaker 2: you'll go to jail for this. Those are the deterrence
Speaker 2: if you don't care about those things and you're doing
Speaker 2: what you want.
Speaker 1: To do well being black in America and be a
Speaker 1: street in America, right, because it is they they're not
Speaker 1: the same. Because this is a whole bunch of Irish people.
Speaker 1: I tire people the street feel me. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of motherfucker uhuh Chicano Latin people streets. So being black
Speaker 1: and being street, I've realized something that makes me unique
Speaker 1: than a lot of people in America as well. The
Speaker 1: quality of my life is more important than the preservation itself.
Speaker 1: That's one thing that I really believe is the cornerstone
Speaker 1: to street urban culture or gang life, or whatever you
Speaker 1: want to call it. The quality of life is more
Speaker 1: important than life itself, than just the preservation. And I
Speaker 1: noticed that that's not common. Like we were me and
Speaker 1: the homies talking about the stuff that happened with Kodak
Speaker 1: Black and and Takashia, and they was like, oh, you
Speaker 1: know Glass, he paid him a million dollars. First off,
Speaker 1: that's just not true. I don't want to get into that.
Speaker 1: That's just not true. I don't give fuck how much
Speaker 1: bullshit they gonna put up. It's just not I just
Speaker 1: know the business well enough to know that that's not
Speaker 1: what you would pay, right. I don't care what it is.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: But another thing that was important was to listen to
Speaker 1: people rationalize it and them just saying, like another guy tells, me, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't care about street at street politics,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is not about street politics like
Speaker 1: this is about men being men, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like and and the more I listened to him talk,
Speaker 1: I realized he didn't have a backbone, like he would
Speaker 1: suck a dick to stay alive. And that's to me
Speaker 1: how I feel like, Pete. I don't think you are
Speaker 1: no gangster. I do think there's a bit of outlaw
Speaker 1: in you. I don't think the law determines And I
Speaker 1: think even most what people referred to as conservative people,
Speaker 1: there is a greater sense of law. There is a
Speaker 1: really simple list of laws they fuck with and everything else.
Speaker 1: It could be whatever.
Speaker 2: They're very like real I'm like half conservative. People that
Speaker 2: are like really conservative are very very much they operate
Speaker 2: in a very strictly defined space because yeah, they very
Speaker 2: much respect the law, but they also very much are
Speaker 2: biblical people, so they respect that law too. So they're
Speaker 2: operating in a confine of layers of laws that they
Speaker 2: respect and attempt to adhere to their best ability all
Speaker 2: the time. It's a very restrictive mind style.
Speaker 1: It's funny because you're restrictive for me, and it's crazy
Speaker 1: because the way society is set up, because you would
Speaker 1: think liberal people would be the more adherent to rules
Speaker 1: and standards, and it's like no, Like, it's the exact opposite.
Speaker 1: Conservative and Republicans are more adherent to like rules and standards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, liberal people adhere to rules and standards when they
Speaker 2: have power and they're in charge and they're writing the rules.
Speaker 1: Do they then still?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think they make the rules as they go. That's
Speaker 1: kind of the whole point of liberals, like, oh, every
Speaker 1: day it's a new rule because it might need to change.
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, I think the standard of life
Speaker 1: should stay the same. I think I think, no matter
Speaker 1: what's going on, we should keep the same standard. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean of living? I don't. It's like
Speaker 1: people dying because somebody is using a gun does not
Speaker 1: mean the solution is to outlaw gun. It depends on
Speaker 1: why the gun was created, what was the gun for,
Speaker 1: why was the gun ordained? If that purpose is no
Speaker 1: longer being served, I understand the rule change. True, But
Speaker 1: back to the point, should I lost my damn train
Speaker 1: of thought because motherfucker rules people? And uh oh okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I would treat it none and to prostitute
Speaker 1: the exact same way. So forth a song, So it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter to me, Like I realized people don't. So
Speaker 1: you need to shape society into a moral place for
Speaker 1: most human beings to have morals, Like I never thought
Speaker 1: in a million years, bro, Like I remember, I never
Speaker 1: had a problem with like the alphabet mafia, that movement.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it makes sense for me, I got it.
Speaker 1: I always thought liberally, like, oh that makes sense, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, shouldn't nobody be killed because
Speaker 1: you know, shouldn't nobody be discriminated against because of their
Speaker 1: sexual preference. I'm thinking like life and death, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm like, yo, I don't want to
Speaker 1: see nobody die because you know, like some guys sleeps
Speaker 1: with guys, you know what I mean. Like that ain't
Speaker 1: the solution. But I didn't mind the actual campaigns. I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, you want to make people more comfortable
Speaker 1: with it. Like I saw growing up, you know, people
Speaker 1: dying of age. My mom took care of termally ill patience,
Speaker 1: and at that time, you know, people really had aids,
Speaker 1: like the real aids, not the New Age, but like
Speaker 1: the real aid where you get them silver dollars sores,
Speaker 1: oh your body. So I met a lot of gay
Speaker 1: people in Beverly hills and really nice places, white people dying.
Speaker 1: So I always had like, I never thought of a
Speaker 1: gay person, it's different. I just thought that was just
Speaker 1: who you was fucking right. But I realized other people
Speaker 1: would pick on gay people, so I got it. But
Speaker 1: now sometimes I look and I'm not sure. And the
Speaker 1: only reason that is is because where the human condition
Speaker 1: is right now, Like I genuinely think there are people
Speaker 1: acting like they are gay to have people concerned and
Speaker 1: to feel like people care about them, to be relevant
Speaker 1: in other people's life. And there's nobody. You could have
Speaker 1: told me that somebody would act like they take a
Speaker 1: dick to be down.
Speaker 2: That's that's a that's a tough one. That's a that's
Speaker 2: a big ask. Yeah, and it's like it's a big as.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that.
Speaker 3: I know it, Wow, I know it. Wow, I'm sure
Speaker 3: like I know people, Oh who are.
Speaker 2: I think that bud light guy like moved to Europe
Speaker 2: and looks like not so much like a girl and
Speaker 2: more is like yating a chick. I guess I think
Speaker 2: that's that's true. I have to have to verify that
Speaker 2: if you have.
Speaker 1: The economic if you have the economic means, you can
Speaker 1: push your agenda through whoever people and people are. And
Speaker 1: it goes back to that conversation about like a Kodak
Speaker 1: doing a song with Takashi. It goes back to that,
Speaker 1: right cause it's like my issue with that whole thing
Speaker 1: was like, we're watching this guy right slowly show you like, oh, yo,
Speaker 1: he goes to these countries and these countries don't have
Speaker 1: black people, and you could tell that they don't care
Speaker 1: that he told on some black people, or in their
Speaker 1: mind they're like, oh, okay, you know what, you know
Speaker 1: there are criminals and he wasn't. And it's like the
Speaker 1: only reason you think he's not a criminal is because
Speaker 1: he's like you know what I mean, Like, if you
Speaker 1: look at his history, he's obviously a criminal. Like he
Speaker 1: understood it. He just knew that people didn't care about
Speaker 1: black people. So you show somebody that's pretty much at
Speaker 1: this point exploiting people that look like you. So when
Speaker 1: he said, hey, would you do this verse that stuff
Speaker 1: for way more than just hey, working with somebody who's unaccountable.
Speaker 1: It's the equivalent of a man saying, hey, can I
Speaker 1: fuck you and ask for a million dollars and then
Speaker 1: you feel like, well, I got a million dollars and
Speaker 1: you showed it to everybody. But it's like, yeah, like
Speaker 1: that's how it is. It's like, oh, like it's like
Speaker 1: money is not the ultimate solution. Money is not the
Speaker 1: ultimate goal. And that's what I think is getting lost
Speaker 1: in this world. And it's crazy because when you think
Speaker 1: about books like the Bible and different ideas, they talk
Speaker 1: about this time where money becomes so important to human beings,
Speaker 1: not even for a read, not even for a reasonable
Speaker 1: means of just staying alive, because just to having excess,
Speaker 1: to feel like they are special, because they are tainted.
Speaker 1: Because Kodak Black is not somebody who really needed a
Speaker 1: million dollars from Takashi. Now I'm not saying Kodak Black
Speaker 1: can make a million dollars standing on top of his head,
Speaker 1: but Kodak Black is in Yeah, he can pretty much
Speaker 1: put together a run. So there is no reason I
Speaker 1: could see if he went paid some new rapper coming
Speaker 1: up out of Watch that was a real nigga out
Speaker 1: out of the nigger sins and he didn't have ship. Okay,
Speaker 1: I get it, you already got some money. You just
Speaker 1: wanted to stand no matter how he put it, you
Speaker 1: just wanted to stand and even like when I look
Speaker 1: at the whole scene, it's like the belief is you're
Speaker 1: like there's a group of people on the internet like
Speaker 1: they're lying from the campaign against the street, except they're
Speaker 1: all posing like their street.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny. You know what, what would be interesting
Speaker 2: I would love to see if you could call here
Speaker 2: figure this out, like invest in afternoon in this for me.
Speaker 2: I want you to make whatever phone call you have
Speaker 2: to make to get the number to make whatever other
Speaker 2: phone call you have to make, so well you can
Speaker 2: do a compared and contrast, because I am willing to
Speaker 2: bet right now that sexy read the self professed prostitute
Speaker 2: would not do a sault with the Kashi six for
Speaker 2: the Moneywell god, and that's St.
Speaker 1: Louis.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that shit.
Speaker 1: Man, because at the end of the day, motherfuckers really know,
Speaker 1: even if they can't articulate, what's their problem with somebody
Speaker 1: really snitching. It's a deep down thing when you just
Speaker 1: look like you. Even the police police be like whole
Speaker 1: ass nick Like nobody likes a motherfucking man who doesn't
Speaker 1: want to be accountable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you ever see the guys like uh Verse forty
Speaker 2: eight when they're talking to the shooter and he cracks,
Speaker 2: they're like high fiving and shit. But then when they're
Speaker 2: talking to like the shooter's friend or the shooters and
Speaker 2: crackship but the snitch like sold them out, they all
Speaker 2: go the hallway and start laughing hysterically. They're not high
Speaker 2: fiving the same way. They're like, get here. They slam
Speaker 2: the door, bursting hysterics by the water cooler.
Speaker 1: Nobody respects it, and just somewhere along the line has
Speaker 1: been painted like it's just black. And that's my problem
Speaker 1: with that post. But that's also my problem when people
Speaker 1: talk about hip hop. Hip hop is street urban culture.
Speaker 1: I get it, and I promise myself I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: this publicly, but it's bothering me. It's too much. There's
Speaker 1: there's a space in Black America where people are ignoring
Speaker 1: the influences of street urban culture from Jewish people, from
Speaker 1: Italian people, from Irish people, and from Latino people into
Speaker 1: the shape of this culture or into all street urban cultures.
Speaker 1: It's the reason why every motherfucking hood or every gang
Speaker 1: got a capone that is not that's not a name
Speaker 1: that just you just made up. That's that's the motherfucking
Speaker 1: person obout.
Speaker 2: Like fivepers Gotti in their name, and so yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: A reason why Gotti isn't everybody's name. And it's just
Speaker 1: intellectually lazy and disingenuous to act like you don't recognize
Speaker 1: everybody else contribution to it. And and that's how I
Speaker 1: feel about this whole conversation even with that, like he
Speaker 1: specifically is catering that to just Black people, like the
Speaker 1: street life only belongs to us. And then you'll have
Speaker 1: people that will say, well, I ain't worried about nobody else. Well,
Speaker 1: if you're not accepting that this is a human condition
Speaker 1: of poor people around the world, then you're just not
Speaker 1: really And this is what I was telling Karan, brother, Karan,
Speaker 1: If you're not accepting that this is a condition for
Speaker 1: poor and oppressed people around the world, they're doing this
Speaker 1: shit everywhere, right, then then we're not having a really
Speaker 1: intelligent conversation. We're like, how do we solve one problem
Speaker 1: when this is everybody's problem? Or why is it just
Speaker 1: our problem when it is everybody problem? Like I hate
Speaker 1: that rhetoric that you know, black people, I don't what
Speaker 1: I don't like about gangers. You know, they don't target anybody,
Speaker 1: only black people. Well, Russia is targeting Ukraine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you can go back through history as far
Speaker 2: as stitching goes. You see that anytime that there's a
Speaker 2: resistance against an oppressive governing body, whether it's on the
Speaker 2: rise or on the fall, and they try to shake out,
Speaker 2: you know, their opposition, there's there's always gonna be degrees
Speaker 2: of strength among men and people who will sell out.
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's your Oscar Schindlers. Then there's the other,
Speaker 2: the other opposite person who says no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: You know what you know, the opposite of Oscar Schindler
Speaker 2: is George Soros's father. Wow, there's Schindler, or there's Sorows. Oh,
Speaker 2: I don't see any Jews here. I'm just running my
Speaker 2: train train full of Jews getting out of the you know,
Speaker 2: the gas chamber from Hitler or whatever Schendler's doing. We'll
Speaker 2: give you a million dollars. You can points to some Jews. Oh,
Speaker 2: thank you for Sorows. So they're over there at Schindler's absolutely,
Speaker 2: Now where's my check?
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because you think about it like if
Speaker 1: if if the law is your reasoning, Well, that's the
Speaker 1: same reason why people total lot of slag rebellions. Those
Speaker 1: slag rebellions were they were they were pretty much rated
Speaker 1: out by snitches. Dude who's on the plantations, Like, well,
Speaker 1: y'all breaking the law, and it's like, god, damn, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, like, I don't think nobody
Speaker 1: would be upset if you if you told the police
Speaker 1: on somebody murdering a four year old kid. Like if
Speaker 1: some guy murdered a four year old kid and you
Speaker 1: murdered a four year old kid and there's no movement exactly,
Speaker 1: nobody would be like, are you snitch as you told them?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Like niggas would be just like, damn,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You're you'll turn your back
Speaker 1: you because nobody all that guy snitch. If you were
Speaker 1: raped the girl, If you raped the girl and you
Speaker 1: called the police on your homies, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: that was raping a five year old girl, nobody's gonna
Speaker 1: call you a snitch.
Speaker 2: No, they might be like, why did you just shoot him?
Speaker 1: But it's just you know what I mean. But but
Speaker 1: the point of being an outlaw is to handle things
Speaker 1: outside of the law. Yeah, out law outside of the law.
Speaker 1: So I think that expectation is just a lot for
Speaker 1: human beings to understand that lives their life within the law.
Speaker 1: But I'll be thinking some of this shit is so standard,
Speaker 1: Like I get what you're saying, Like, let's say you
Speaker 1: wrong in that situation, right, and that guy jump on
Speaker 1: you for trying to talk to his girl with his friends,
Speaker 1: and your homies don't help. Right, they don't help you
Speaker 1: because you was wrong. But what if you weren't wrong?
Speaker 1: What if they just start kicking your ass because it
Speaker 1: was kicked pete as day, I don't like your favors
Speaker 1: and they just start kicking your ass. I would expect
Speaker 1: I would hope you would expect your friends to help you.
Speaker 1: Maybe it ain't no got the greatest hands, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But I would hope that you would
Speaker 1: expect your friends to stand up with you. And I
Speaker 1: think that's the.
Speaker 2: Just do the right thing, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Do the right thing, Let the right thing, Let the
Speaker 2: right thing be done. I'll say that I'm what's the.
Speaker 1: Right thing at that point? Like, would you be bad
Speaker 1: at me if two guys was kicking your ass and
Speaker 1: you was wrong and I helped you. Glass, I'm not
Speaker 1: fucking you just going to throw your life away from
Speaker 1: helping me. I hope it is way for.
Speaker 2: You and your family. I'd be pretty damn disappointed you
Speaker 2: be like, all the fuck you do that. I've had
Speaker 2: that one coming. I had it coming to me. Why
Speaker 2: the fuck do you funk over the people close to
Speaker 2: you like that? They rely on you. I'm a ship
Speaker 2: throw out.
Speaker 1: That's this is a really interesting conversation right here. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean because my brother, my younger brother,
Speaker 1: I respected him, but he got a lot of homeboys
Speaker 1: out of the situation that he got him in, and
Speaker 1: he got him out of it by being accountable. And
Speaker 1: so again it's still rooted than masculinity. Even your stands
Speaker 1: is you know, both of our stances is right. My
Speaker 1: stand is right for helping you because I'm your friend
Speaker 1: and I'm a man, and I'm like, you're not going
Speaker 1: to jump on my friend because I have.
Speaker 2: To contribute, take and I don't want to take more
Speaker 2: than I contributed to the situation.
Speaker 1: But what if you're not wrong? What if it's just
Speaker 1: kick pete as day?
Speaker 2: If that's what I said, then then what's right should
Speaker 2: be done?
Speaker 1: I mean, then what's right as I jump in and
Speaker 1: make sure that they don't get your.
Speaker 2: Ass to that, right, that's that's the just thing at
Speaker 2: that point. Yeah, that's the just thing because because then
Speaker 2: because then they're the wrong doers. If I'm the wrong
Speaker 2: doer and their justice, don't fight justice. If they're the
Speaker 2: wrong doer and we're justice, we gotta fight them.
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