Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy pros. This is the Fantasy
Speaker 1: Football Podcast. It is me Joey p Joe Piazapi And
Speaker 1: as you can see from the opening of the video,
Speaker 1: we had boots on the ground at the NFL Combine. Now,
Speaker 1: it's a little shame that we didn't see Derek Brown
Speaker 1: run the forty in his underwear, but there's always next year,
Speaker 1: and there's always dreaming. Andrew Ericsson, Debro Derek Brown. We're
Speaker 1: at the NFL Combine and they're here to talk with
Speaker 1: me about the risers and the fathers after everything that
Speaker 1: went down, all the forties, all the vertical jumps, all
Speaker 1: the routes, all the throws. The boys saw them all
Speaker 1: and they got to speak to some of the guys
Speaker 1: as well. So we've got some footage year from some
Speaker 1: of those interviews. We've got all the takeaways. But before
Speaker 1: we get to the next guys in the NFL, some
Speaker 1: current stuff's going on the NFL. It's been a jam
Speaker 1: packed week. Let's start with the big trade that went
Speaker 1: down Saturday night. A fifth round pick goes from the
Speaker 1: Washington Commanders to the San Francisco forty nine ers in
Speaker 1: exchange Deebo Samuel goes to the commanders, Deebro start with
Speaker 1: you on this one. You know I was fading Deebo
Speaker 1: last year, but this is kind of intriguing now. If
Speaker 1: Deebo shows up in better shape to camp this year,
Speaker 1: and that is key for me at least to buy
Speaker 1: back in. This could be a really good situation in
Speaker 1: fantasy for Deebo. Samuel as the number two and a
Speaker 1: lot of volume with Jayden Daniels in Washington.
Speaker 2: Big agree, Joey, And you look what the commanders did.
Speaker 2: They picked up the pace, threw more down the stretch
Speaker 2: as well as this fit makes a ton of sense.
Speaker 3: Man. They were sixth in screen.
Speaker 2: Passes last year, and outside of McLaurin and Luke McCaffrey,
Speaker 2: every single other wide receiver on this roster was slated
Speaker 2: to hit free agency or is slated to hit free
Speaker 2: agency after this year. So I love this, and i'll
Speaker 2: before Ericson gives his take here, we were both sitting
Speaker 2: in the stands at the combine when this trade goes down,
Speaker 2: and we have two commander's staffers sitting behind us, and
Speaker 2: we're like We.
Speaker 3: Turn around to them, We're like, did you know this
Speaker 3: is gonna happen.
Speaker 2: You've been buttoned up like we were chatting with him
Speaker 2: the entire time, so it was hilarious.
Speaker 1: Had all unfolded, Well did they know or no? Was
Speaker 1: that surprise?
Speaker 3: Then they just kind of like shrugged their shoulders.
Speaker 4: Like who.
Speaker 1: Then they didn't. Then they were just trying to be cool.
Speaker 1: Andrew Erickson, You're never trying to be cool. You just
Speaker 1: are cool. That's how you roll. Nice haircut by the way,
Speaker 1: too looking sharp. So question for you, Deebo Samuel Commanders.
Speaker 1: He made the comment which was throwing shade on the
Speaker 1: way out, very high class. Now I get to play
Speaker 1: with a real quarterback. Yikes, col Deebo throwing stones? What
Speaker 1: do you think of debo in Washington?
Speaker 4: Deebo Samuel really said that.
Speaker 1: Or he really said that because he's got a podcast,
Speaker 1: because they give anybody a podcast.
Speaker 4: I will say when we were talking to those some
Speaker 4: of those Commander staffers after that trade went down, they
Speaker 4: did also mad let's hope he's in shape, because I
Speaker 4: think that is a big key here with Deebo Samuel.
Speaker 4: So last year was really bad for him to get
Speaker 4: outside the top forty receivers even after brand Now you
Speaker 4: got hurt so you expected, Hey, he's got all this expectation.
Speaker 4: Ricky Piersoll was a non factor after suffering the gun
Speaker 4: wounded in the offseason, so Deebo had all the opportunities
Speaker 4: in the world. He went over twenty two receiving yards
Speaker 4: one time in his last seven games. Now I know
Speaker 4: the other issue was he was dealing with pneumonia and
Speaker 4: his lungs. Was he one hundred percent? We don't know.
Speaker 4: But it's the hot and cold thing with Deebo Samuel
Speaker 4: every single year where it's like, well, which guy are
Speaker 4: we going to get? Yes, maybe he's more motivated now
Speaker 4: he got traded for a fifth round pick, but he's
Speaker 4: still making a decent amount of money still because the
Speaker 4: Commanders are paying the contract that the fort Nineers sent
Speaker 4: over with him. So I'm not gonna be as high
Speaker 4: on yo as Anuel, to be honest, Cliff Kingsbury, I've
Speaker 4: seen him put a wide receiver at left wide receiver
Speaker 4: and not move him at all. Deebo Samuel, you have
Speaker 4: to scheme up manufacture touches for him. He's a guy
Speaker 4: that can constantly banged up. He's a mobile quarterback. So yes,
Speaker 4: the offense had a lot of screens last year, But
Speaker 4: how much of that was because oh, we're running backs
Speaker 4: and Zach Ertz are the rest of our offense behind
Speaker 4: Terry McLaurin. So I think if he's going schemed up
Speaker 4: or steamed up into the top twenty four wide receivers,
Speaker 4: I think I'm out.
Speaker 1: So that's okay, Well, that's fair. I don't want to
Speaker 1: overrate him, And that's what happens to you. Guy goes
Speaker 1: to a team, people overrate him. Just look at everybody
Speaker 1: who got traded last year in season and now everybody
Speaker 1: thought it would be good and basically none of them
Speaker 1: worked out as a complete disaster. Now one guy who's
Speaker 1: staying put it. Wide receiver T Higgins franchised. He ain't
Speaker 1: going nowhere. Look, it's good for Joe Burrow, it's good
Speaker 1: for Jamar Chase. I think it's good for T Higgins
Speaker 1: in a way because he gets another year to pad
Speaker 1: some stats. And if the Bengals have the kind of
Speaker 1: season ahead of them that I think they might, then
Speaker 1: I think he's going to get a huge paiday next year.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if there's anything else to add
Speaker 1: on that, except we know what T Higgins looks like.
Speaker 1: In the Bengals and it's good. And I think that
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five is going to be a good year
Speaker 1: for the Cincinnati Bengals. Maybe you were a year early
Speaker 1: on the Bengals bandwagon ericson on the betting side, just saying,
Speaker 1: just throwing that out there. But let's get to the
Speaker 1: NFL combine stuff here. Let's start with the winners and
Speaker 1: losers here, Debro, let's start with you give me the
Speaker 1: winner at the running back position.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: We're talking rbs right now that you think really popped
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: What my guy, my RB five in this class coming
Speaker 2: into the combine, My RB five exiting the combine, that's
Speaker 2: r J Harvey.
Speaker 3: Baby, he crushed it.
Speaker 2: Eight point nine RAZ ninety first percentau or higher in
Speaker 2: both the vertical and broad jumps. And you marry that
Speaker 2: with a ninety six percentile four point four forty.
Speaker 3: RJ.
Speaker 2: Harvey, welcome to Day two of the NFL Draft. He's
Speaker 2: gonna get drafted. I'm not saying in round two, but
Speaker 2: probably in round three. And he deserves to be man
Speaker 2: For a player that over the last two years has
Speaker 2: been top twenty in both breakaway rate and elusive rating.
Speaker 2: RJ Harvey is really stinking good at football and people
Speaker 2: are going to put more respect on his name, and
Speaker 2: teams had to love what they seen at the combine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I certainly would agree with that. Rahem Sanders was
Speaker 1: an interesting one for me too. He kind of stood
Speaker 1: out for me, very smooth, good forty time, was good
Speaker 1: in the drills. I really liked what I saw. It
Speaker 1: wasn't es from didn't watch it a lot of Arkansas
Speaker 1: this year, so I didn't catch them a lot. So
Speaker 1: that was one that just really popped for me. Watching
Speaker 1: ericson You Were There Live though, I was just some
Speaker 1: numbskull watching on TV dvring going back and forth million times.
Speaker 1: Who stood out to you at the running back position
Speaker 1: that you think did themselves a service this past weekend.
Speaker 4: It's my guy, Mishelle Tuton, Virginia Tech. But we did
Speaker 4: the comp show. That was my guy. At the end
Speaker 4: of the show, talked about sleepers in this class, people
Speaker 4: not put enough respect on his name. There was a
Speaker 4: reason why he was being slept on, you know when
Speaker 4: I got a chance to talk to him at the
Speaker 4: podium because nobody else was there, because they weren't They
Speaker 4: weren't excited about this Virginia Tech guy, but I was,
Speaker 4: and he blew every expectation out of the water, posting
Speaker 4: ninety eighth percent of forty yard dash, ninety six percent
Speaker 4: of vertical jump, ninety six percentile broad jump. When he
Speaker 4: ran his four thte eight, I was already to like
Speaker 4: tweet out victory laps and then he read a four
Speaker 4: three two and then Debro put a clip up on
Speaker 4: x and social media of us just like screaming in
Speaker 4: the States. So it was it was a Joey, we
Speaker 4: missed you at that point because you would have been
Speaker 4: screaming right along with us.
Speaker 1: I missed there. I'm not gonna lull, but that for.
Speaker 4: Me was the biggest He was the big swinner, you know,
Speaker 4: again a player that has explsiveness on tape and you
Speaker 4: could see that translate to the drills. He weighs over
Speaker 4: two hundred pounds, So this is in the case of
Speaker 4: like devon a chan where he was one hundred and
Speaker 4: eight pounds. He ran the same speed as him on
Speaker 4: a Chan did, but he did it at over two
Speaker 4: hundred pounds. So yeah, this is a guy that's going
Speaker 4: from maybe he was in that round five consideration and
Speaker 4: now it's like, well, this guy's going to go in
Speaker 4: round three or round four, potentially even at the end
Speaker 4: of round two because of how explosive he is. He's
Speaker 4: underrated as a pass catcher. So as someone that I
Speaker 4: was really excited to watch, I was really happy to
Speaker 4: see have a big day and the person too, right
Speaker 4: cause I got to talk to him in real life. Canna. Remember,
Speaker 4: these guys are just you know, names on a page
Speaker 4: or in my spreadsheet, but they are real people, and
Speaker 4: I was happy for him.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are a lot of people want to
Speaker 1: talk to him after the forty times that they ran,
Speaker 1: but Andrew Erickson did get to speak with him beforehand.
Speaker 1: So here's a clip of Andrew Erickson at the podium
Speaker 1: with Tutin before he was dropping giant forty times. Excellent
Speaker 1: stuff there from Andrew Erickson. All right, so there's winners
Speaker 1: and there's losers. Andrew Erickson, give me somebody that you
Speaker 1: thought maybe disappointed you at the running back position at
Speaker 1: the combine.
Speaker 4: So for me, it's Caleb Johnson, the running back from Iowa.
Speaker 4: And if anything, when Derek and I went to brunch
Speaker 4: the day of the testing for the running backs, we
Speaker 4: saw a group of Iowa fans, and I went up
Speaker 4: to that and be like, hey, you guys excited Caleb Johnson.
Speaker 4: They're like, we're actually here for the big ten track meet.
Speaker 4: Who's Caleb Johnson? And I was like, oh no, from
Speaker 4: this is a bad side in mouth. So Caleb Johnson
Speaker 4: ended up running one of the slowest forties four five seven.
Speaker 4: The ten yard split was particularly glaring one point six
Speaker 4: y five, which is seventh percentile. So I think that
Speaker 4: this is going to potentially negatively affect his draft stock
Speaker 4: in terms of what round he goes in, especially when
Speaker 4: you look at the guys like Henderson and Judkins and
Speaker 4: Amaron Hampton, the other running backs that were kind of
Speaker 4: viewed in that next tier alongside Ashton Genty. Those guys
Speaker 4: all had amazing workouts. It all looked really good, and
Speaker 4: that has Cale Johnson as the only two drills he
Speaker 4: did he didn't necessarily perform well. Now he is a
Speaker 4: larger running back. When he talked to NFL teams, they
Speaker 4: said you're a big, physical back, not oh we want
Speaker 4: to your speed running back. That's not his game. So
Speaker 4: I kind of like the idea of buying the discount
Speaker 4: on him and certain if he's going to fall in
Speaker 4: rookie ADP. But I want to also acknowledge that the
Speaker 4: bad performance could Nickel impact his real life draft capital,
Speaker 4: which does have a very high correlation. Because if these
Speaker 4: other guys are all going ahead in the rounds one
Speaker 4: and two and he ends up going at the end
Speaker 4: of round three, well, that does hurt his odds of
Speaker 4: hitting at the next level. So even though I still
Speaker 4: like Caleb Johnson, I'm not overly concerned about it. I
Speaker 4: am concerned that it'll hurt his draft stock move We've
Speaker 4: seen guys like Kyrien Williams, Bucky Irving didn't run the
Speaker 4: fastest forties. It ended up not making a difference with the.
Speaker 1: Oddous unibraate Man Irving. But because yeah, that's the whole
Speaker 1: problem is like Bogman and I just have this conversation
Speaker 1: on Ata Bounds go watch Out of Bounds on the
Speaker 1: YouTube channel, because we literally just talked about this. Bogmin said,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let the combine over influence me because
Speaker 1: last year he was the Bucky Irving guy. Although he
Speaker 1: all September, October, November at Bucky every Bucky ring. Then
Speaker 1: the combine happened and He's like, oh, he's got to
Speaker 1: a little shaky there, and then what happened Bucky Ring
Speaker 1: was really good and he was pissed for the entire
Speaker 1: NFL season. Scott Bogman was pissed about it. And I
Speaker 1: just want to remind everybody too. You know, you talked
Speaker 1: about him being a bigger running back. Caleb Johnson and
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry's forty time at the combine was four point
Speaker 1: five to four. It wasn't exactly like stunning necessarily. I
Speaker 1: think the game film speaks enough to Caleb. I love Caleb.
Speaker 1: If he falls a little bit, maybe it's better because
Speaker 1: maybe ends up in a better organization with a better
Speaker 1: offensive line and a better situation for him to actually
Speaker 1: be more impactful. So I'll try to like this little
Speaker 1: sonny here. I get it. Maybe it wasn't quite up
Speaker 1: to expectations. Maybe expectations were too high. I still believe
Speaker 1: in Caleb like Erickson does. But Deebro, give me a
Speaker 1: potential loser at the running back position that you thought
Speaker 1: might have just fallen short of expectations.
Speaker 2: Man, I wasn't high on him entering the combine, and
Speaker 2: I'm not definitely not higher on him.
Speaker 3: Exiting the combine at.
Speaker 2: Looking for a guy that there's this kind of tier
Speaker 2: in this draft class, a bigger volume running backs, and
Speaker 2: Oli Gordon didn't do himself any favors to get to
Speaker 2: the top of that tier in Indy considering he ran
Speaker 2: a four six one forty, which that's such slow enough
Speaker 2: for you to bury anybody, especially a bigger running back.
Speaker 2: But like we still got to mention it fifty second percentile.
Speaker 2: But looking at all the rest of his jumps and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, sixty first percentile, vert his his ten
Speaker 2: yard split, which gives you a little bit more hope
Speaker 2: for bigger running backs that might not have impressive forty
Speaker 2: times fifty second percentile. So Ali Gordon, especially coming off
Speaker 2: of Also if you add in he's coming off of
Speaker 2: a down year. I'm not trying to like make the
Speaker 2: lazy comparison, but very similar to Chewba Hubbard when he
Speaker 2: came out of Oklahoma State having a monster year, then
Speaker 2: goes back and then comes out after having a quite a.
Speaker 3: Much much quieter year.
Speaker 2: I think Ally Gordon is a guy that was maybe
Speaker 2: if he'd made some noise in Indy, would have been
Speaker 2: looking at a very solid Day three selection. Probably fourth
Speaker 2: round that might look like he's in the fifth round,
Speaker 2: maybe the back end of the fifth round now in
Speaker 2: the infol draft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does make a huge impact some of
Speaker 1: these things, and sometimes they are overblown a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know. Sometimes I think we look at these and
Speaker 1: we you know, sometimes put too much stock in what's
Speaker 1: going on with the combine. But certainly there were some
Speaker 1: underwhelming performances I think, but overall, still a really good
Speaker 1: running back class. So you'd be very excited, all you
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Speaker 1: more use of the running back last time I checked
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Speaker 1: Let's get to the wide receivers, Andrew Erickson. I want
Speaker 1: to start with you on this one because there's a
Speaker 1: guy that I've been annoying Derek Brown with for months,
Speaker 1: months now, and his name is Matthew Golden. And this
Speaker 1: was a player that I loved going into the season
Speaker 1: transfer from Houston, right, a player that uh when I
Speaker 1: was sitting home alone the only day that I was
Speaker 1: alone by myself during the holiday season, it was a
Speaker 1: glorious time watching the Arizona game against the uh Texas Longhorns.
Speaker 1: What an incredible game, skataboo being amazing, Matthew Golden catching touchdowns.
Speaker 1: I had Texan Dee bro like, I know you're not
Speaker 1: into this stuff yet, but I'm telling you, Matthew Golden
Speaker 1: is my guy. This kid is going to be a
Speaker 1: star in the NFL. Andrew Erickson, why did he stand
Speaker 1: out to you at the combine?
Speaker 4: Well, he ran a four two nine forty yard dash,
Speaker 4: which was that'll do so that broke a type So
Speaker 4: this is from a next gen stat so that broke
Speaker 4: a tie for the second fastest forty yard dash time
Speaker 4: by receiver wearing it weighing at least one hundred and
Speaker 4: ninety pounds since two thousand and three. So when you
Speaker 4: sort by his four yard dash time with all the
Speaker 4: other guys that have run it, they're all, this guy
Speaker 4: has nothing else to his game except speed. The Taekwon Thorntons,
Speaker 4: the Brashad Perryman's guys that you can say, oh, this
Speaker 4: guy's gonna be a future New England Patriot bust basically
Speaker 4: like that, those are the players that that's just the speed.
Speaker 4: Because even before he ran this, like he could have
Speaker 4: ran a four four four, And I don't think I
Speaker 4: would have changed my perspective on Matthew Golden because he
Speaker 4: already had already good tape, He has good numbers. And
Speaker 4: the thing that Texas that impressed me the most is
Speaker 4: kind of, like you said, show up in the biggest moments,
Speaker 4: right when quin Ewers needed a guy to step up
Speaker 4: and be his reliable target, it was not Isaiah Bond, No, no, no,
Speaker 4: it was Matthew Golden that stepped up. And that was
Speaker 4: something that Golden mentioned in his podium interview. First thing
Speaker 4: he did the first guy he went out to eat
Speaker 4: with once he got to Texas was ken Yours. He's like,
Speaker 4: I'm going to be your guy. So I don't know
Speaker 4: what Isaiah Bond was doing at that time, probably talking
Speaker 4: about how he's going to lead Texas and receiving yards
Speaker 4: and receiving touchdowns, which he did neither of because it
Speaker 4: was Matthew Golden. That was the Golden child that was promised.
Speaker 4: So well, let's.
Speaker 1: Let's get to some tape from the Golden childhood the
Speaker 1: combine right here Andrew Erickson, uh talking to Matthew Golden
Speaker 1: right here on Fantasy Pros. Very cool. They got talked
Speaker 1: to my guy. I gotta say, I'm a little jealous there,
Speaker 1: uh Debro, I know he took Golden. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that was your winner and you had to go there,
Speaker 1: but you gotta admit, Joey p pretty decent scout going
Speaker 1: all year for it. I give you to go.
Speaker 3: I'll I got I got text messages from the way back.
Speaker 1: Please tell me both of you. I know college football.
Speaker 1: You guys are so overwhelmed during the NFL season, but
Speaker 1: please promise you're going to go back and watch at
Speaker 1: least the second half of the overtime of that game.
Speaker 1: Best football game. But there period end of the story.
Speaker 1: It's so good, Uh, Debro Who is your big winner
Speaker 1: of the wide receiver position?
Speaker 2: The guy that I have not shut up about since
Speaker 2: before the Senior Bowl. I have been out here talking
Speaker 2: about him. I talked about him on the Comps Show,
Speaker 2: and it's Jalen Ole, baby, and he absolutely eviscerated the combine.
Speaker 2: He crushed it in Indianapolis, did everything and more. I mean,
Speaker 2: we're looking at a player that finished with a nine
Speaker 2: point five raz He had a ninety ninth percentile vertical jump,
Speaker 2: ninety ninth percentile broad jump, ran a four three nine
Speaker 2: people eighty eightieth percent out or higher even in the
Speaker 2: short area agility. I freaking love Jalenole and Jalenol. Welcome
Speaker 2: to the second round of the NFL Draft. These Iowa
Speaker 2: State boys. We're gonna get to another one here in
Speaker 2: a second. But dude, the people need to put respect
Speaker 2: on their names. And I've been saying it, I will
Speaker 2: continue to say it. This wide receiver class is better
Speaker 2: than people are giving it credit. All you hear about
Speaker 2: in the echo chamber, in the narrative streets is that's dan.
Speaker 6: Wide receiver year. We don't want to sit here in
Speaker 6: draft wide receivers. I'm so worried about the wide receivers.
Speaker 6: And then these guys are crushing the combine and Jalenole
Speaker 6: capan up baby saving the wide receiver class.
Speaker 1: Here's Derek Brown asking Noel about his favorite routes to
Speaker 1: run in the tree. Great stuff, de Bro. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get to another winner here, Andrew Erickson, who was
Speaker 1: on your list at wide receiver.
Speaker 4: Elick, I am an or trying to make sure I
Speaker 4: pronounce his name right. So this is the wide receiver
Speaker 4: from Stanford six foot two, two hundred and six pounds,
Speaker 4: ran really well for a bigger wide receiver, seventh of
Speaker 4: the percent of forty yard dash four point four four
Speaker 4: eighty second percent or better in both jumps, and that's
Speaker 4: kind of what stood out to me was he's a
Speaker 4: bigger wide receiver with a extremely dominant production profile. So
Speaker 4: I know that he missed his first year at STAB
Speaker 4: because of an injury, but these last two seasons all
Speaker 4: he's done is put up numbers. So a couple of
Speaker 4: years ago, we saw a receiver from Stanford, Michael Wilson
Speaker 4: get drafted pretty highly in the NFL draft. I think
Speaker 4: this guy could go even higher than Michael Wilson and
Speaker 4: he was a second round pick. The thing that stood
Speaker 4: out to me as well with him massive hands, ten
Speaker 4: inch hands, eighty seven percentile. I think that you're going
Speaker 4: to see this guy vacuum up targets at the NFL level,
Speaker 4: and you're already seeing some mock drafts with him as
Speaker 4: a potential end of the first round type of pick.
Speaker 4: So this is a guy that you need to keep
Speaker 4: monitoring because his style, his stock is moving up high.
Speaker 1: The guy that really stood out to me who I
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily you know, having all my radar was Jayden
Speaker 1: Higgins and Debro I know that's the guy that you're
Speaker 1: teasing about Iowa State. So we know the teases. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're can put him away. Now we know the answer,
Speaker 1: and he did. He had a really nice combine, ran
Speaker 1: well executed drill as well, looked really just smooth. Looked
Speaker 1: like a guy who should be playing in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about Higgins here and what you know
Speaker 1: popped off to you as you were watching him and
Speaker 1: interacting with him as well.
Speaker 2: Super nice, Kay, got a chance to talk to him,
Speaker 2: not only at the Combine but Senior Bowl, and he's
Speaker 2: he's incredibly impressive.
Speaker 3: And he was my wide receiver seven or eight going
Speaker 3: into the.
Speaker 2: Combine walks out of the combine. Is my wide receiver
Speaker 2: six in this class, ahead of Luther Burden. I don't care.
Speaker 2: I people can get mad about that.
Speaker 3: He's better than losing.
Speaker 1: I think that's a hot tank. I don't think it
Speaker 1: shouldn't be.
Speaker 2: It really shouldn't be, dude, because I mean, look at
Speaker 2: what Jaden Higgins did. Not only if we turn on
Speaker 2: the film, we look at the analytics. Nine point eight
Speaker 2: raz he had a four point four to seven ninety
Speaker 2: second percentile forty yard dash, jumped out the freaking gym
Speaker 2: with the vert in the broad and if you even
Speaker 2: turn to the analytics, he led all FBS wide receivers
Speaker 2: with the fifty targets or more last year in receiving
Speaker 2: grade in the last two years, top twenty seven yards
Speaker 2: per route run. Jane Higgins again talking about Nolan where
Speaker 2: he goes.
Speaker 3: In the NFL draft.
Speaker 2: I will not be shocked at all if Jane Higgins
Speaker 2: is a second round pick in the NFL draft, because
Speaker 2: he deserves to be.
Speaker 1: I like it, and he's a versatile wide receiver too.
Speaker 1: Deebro got to talk to him about his versatility and
Speaker 1: also how some of those visits with the teams went
Speaker 1: as well. All right, So there's winners and then there's losers,
Speaker 1: and sometimes people get caught on the wrong side. So
Speaker 1: let's talk about somebody who might be a loser for you, guys, Debro,
Speaker 1: Let's start with you. It's funny because again just did
Speaker 1: out of bounds, and the guys on your list are
Speaker 1: the same guys that are on Bogman's list. I gave
Speaker 1: he said, give me three losers, and two of the
Speaker 1: guys that we're gonna talk about now were on his list,
Speaker 1: two of the three. So dee Bro, let's start with
Speaker 1: you here. Who really just kind of disappointed you that
Speaker 1: maybe you had higher expectations for and didn't live up
Speaker 1: to the hype.
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't have high expectations for him inner
Speaker 2: in the combine, but he really needed a great combine
Speaker 2: to debunk a lot of facts about him. This isn't
Speaker 2: even rumors, this is facts. Because Tedes Johnson measuring in
Speaker 2: at five nine one fifty four. You need to fly, sir,
Speaker 2: you need to be too too out well, you need
Speaker 2: to just absolutely blaze. And while he tested good in
Speaker 2: the vert in the short area stuff, his forty yard
Speaker 2: dash was four point five to one. I'm sorry, at
Speaker 2: that size, that speed, if you were out there comping him,
Speaker 2: anybody's out there comping him to Tank.
Speaker 3: Dell, you are wrong.
Speaker 2: You are incredibly wrong. I'm sorry, but it is not
Speaker 2: right at all. He's not Tank Dell. He's not going
Speaker 2: to be Tank Dell. He's a slot player. And looking
Speaker 2: at this size and lack of speed, combo, you're seeing
Speaker 2: his draftock. His draft stock is probably going into tumble man.
Speaker 2: He probably still goes somewhere on Day three, but maybe
Speaker 2: he was a fourth round pick. I won't be shocked
Speaker 2: if he tumbles into the fifth or sixth round in
Speaker 2: the NFL draft.
Speaker 1: Now ericson the guy on your list is Isaiah Bond.
Speaker 1: I feel like Isaiah Bond set himself up for failure. Though.
Speaker 1: When you're talking trash that you're gonna break every record,
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and then you run an amazing four
Speaker 1: four forty, it seems underwhelming and it shouldn't be. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, is he a victim of being Isaiah Bond
Speaker 1: at this point and just is that a problem.
Speaker 4: Well, I think that this is just the Isaiah Bond
Speaker 4: experience where he's teed up for every opportunity to smash,
Speaker 4: and what does he do. He just continues to underwhelm.
Speaker 4: So you're right, running a fourth three nine forty yard
Speaker 4: dash is really good, but it doesn't look as good
Speaker 4: when you talk about, well, I'm gonna run four two,
Speaker 4: So that's why it seems slow. So for me, this
Speaker 4: stems from the player Isaiah Bond and what type of
Speaker 4: rookie receiver you could potentially be drafting on your fantasy
Speaker 4: team as someone that's super frustrating and Oh, he's got
Speaker 4: the opportunity, he's gonna see targets, because that was either
Speaker 4: there thing at Texas he didn't see enough targets. Wonder
Speaker 4: why why wasn't Ken you Weers gettinghim targets? Oh, because
Speaker 4: maybe he wanted to throw a Mathew Golden instead. So
Speaker 4: that's my issue with Isaiah Bond. And for me, I
Speaker 4: don't really care where he goes. I think that some
Speaker 4: teams might not really see this has affect him because
Speaker 4: it was still a guy with four four speed. He
Speaker 4: played big programs. He was an Alabama guy, but he
Speaker 4: transferred Alabama, was underwhelming there, went to Texas, underwhelmed again,
Speaker 4: and he did the exact same thing in the scouting combine.
Speaker 4: So I'm not going to be fooled by the big
Speaker 4: plays and potential that he has because he's had this
Speaker 4: potentially the entire time, and sometimes that's not enough. So
Speaker 4: for me, Isaiah Bond is a big loser.
Speaker 1: I don't want to make too many excuses for Isaiah Bond,
Speaker 1: but quin Yours is a guy that when you watch
Speaker 1: to play quarterback in games, there's moments where you go,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he's better than I think he is,
Speaker 1: and then he immediately reminds you he's not. It's true,
Speaker 1: and I think that is the Quinn Yours experience, at
Speaker 1: least that I had whenever I watched any Texas games
Speaker 1: this past year. And when you do bounce around like
Speaker 1: Bond too, you know, sometimes you think you're getting a
Speaker 1: better situation at quarterback and you're not always getting a
Speaker 1: better situation at quarterback. I feel like if Bond he's
Speaker 1: got good hands, he's got all the partotypical things you're
Speaker 1: looking at. You said four to three nine speed it's
Speaker 1: pretty good last time I check. If he gets in
Speaker 1: the right environment, you can take a quarterback, you can.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying like I'm not ready to
Speaker 1: write him off yet, but I get it and I understand.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe Isaiah Bond is a little bit too
Speaker 1: much Isaiah Bond. Sometimes we'll see, we'll see what I mean,
Speaker 1: a wide receiver or the huge ego. God, I don't
Speaker 1: know how the NFL will ever handle.
Speaker 4: When needs drafted.
Speaker 2: The Patriots don't and then he doesn't play at all
Speaker 2: in his rookie season.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. I mean. My dream is that
Speaker 1: Matthew Golden goes in the beginning of Round two to
Speaker 1: the New Engle Patriots to last that long. And that
Speaker 1: is that was my dream in January.
Speaker 4: Jane Higgins, that'd still be good, baby, that's the play.
Speaker 1: It's a consolation prize. But Golden's the guy that I want.
Speaker 1: I know we're gonna talk about the quarterbacks, and I
Speaker 1: want to talk about the quarterbacks, but real quick, let's
Speaker 1: just touch on tight ends for a moment if we can,
Speaker 1: which is again phrasing, I should reconsider some of the
Speaker 1: things that come out of my mouth sometimes let's talk
Speaker 1: about the tight end position. What you saw at the
Speaker 1: combined debro for better or worse. Here, I know we've
Speaker 1: got a star at the top of this class. What's
Speaker 1: the rest of it looked like?
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, Ericson and I talked about this on
Speaker 2: the micro cast like it's it's you saw a widening
Speaker 2: of the top three tight ends versus everybody else, considering
Speaker 2: most of these guys didn't test well. Terrence Ferguson, Uh,
Speaker 2: definitely jumped out because he he tested extremely well. Guy
Speaker 2: at Oregon, So what you know, can he make some
Speaker 2: noise and be in that tier two compared to you know,
Speaker 2: Harold Fannin and some of these other guys, Aronda gadst
Speaker 2: and and I just think that this is what my
Speaker 2: big takeaway for the tight ends, not so much like
Speaker 2: winners and losers, because I honestly think there weren't any
Speaker 2: winners from the tight end position at the combine.
Speaker 3: None of these guys like really helped them.
Speaker 2: So where they're gonna jump up multiple rounds in the
Speaker 2: NFL draft, if anything you can talk about there was
Speaker 2: some losers, but we even got the news after a fact,
Speaker 2: and they didn't help you know, Ericson and I is
Speaker 2: prop betting at all, But gunner Helm twisting his ankle
Speaker 2: and that explaining his four eight forty and his lackluster
Speaker 2: combine experience, Like I mean really wanted.
Speaker 1: To prove that he's a tough guy. I mean that's
Speaker 1: what football scouts care about too, right that you're like, hey,
Speaker 1: you're gonna play.
Speaker 3: Somewhere else, not with your bad times. I get it,
Speaker 3: but still, but you can't win.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't win, Like if you're these kids,
Speaker 1: you're like you're you're a prima donna. If you have
Speaker 1: pro days and you don't do anything of the combine,
Speaker 1: and if you if something that's so well at the combine,
Speaker 1: then you're an utter failure as a prospect. I mean
Speaker 1: it's Ericson. I know, there's Tyler Warren and everybody else.
Speaker 1: Is there anybody else?
Speaker 4: See I don't think it's I think it's Tyler Warren
Speaker 4: and Colson Loveland. I think he's right up there with
Speaker 4: Tyler Warren. He's also significantly younger than Tyler Warren is. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's not there for multiple seasons than Tyler Warren has been.
Speaker 4: So that's all I'm saying. I mean, if Colson Lovelin
Speaker 4: gets drafted by his old head coach in Michigan goes
Speaker 4: to the Chargers, well we're gonna be really excited about
Speaker 4: playing him in fantasy football. So that's really my only
Speaker 4: take on times. I just think that there's a clear
Speaker 4: top tier, which I think that Loveland deserves to be
Speaker 4: right there with Tyler Warren. I can expect some people
Speaker 4: to disagree, but that's my take. But yeah, I think
Speaker 4: Terrence Ferguson was the other guy that really stood out
Speaker 4: among the drills and really put his draft stock in
Speaker 4: Gunner Holm. I just hope that healed out, buddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go. We're gonna talk about the QBS
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Speaker 1: about quarterbacks that we feel really excited about here for second.
Speaker 1: And I know there's one that we're all pretty excited about.
Speaker 1: I think it's Jackson Dart, guy that we've been talking
Speaker 1: about on the show. Oh miss getting excited here. Love
Speaker 1: the Jackson Dart. He had a good combine what stood
Speaker 1: up to me. And I don't think you guys could
Speaker 1: see this unless you were watching it back, but when
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart would line up there with his wide receivers
Speaker 1: in the drills, he would look over and smile at
Speaker 1: the guy before he ran the route. Just swagger, man.
Speaker 1: I want that in my quarterback. He puts everything he's got,
Speaker 1: I feel like into every throw, every bit of his body,
Speaker 1: every bit of his heart, is mind, his soul. I
Speaker 1: like that. I like the way Jackson Dart plays football
Speaker 1: and debro it seems like you like him too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, I love Jackson Dart and doing his podium session.
Speaker 2: I know we're gonna show a few clips here in
Speaker 2: a second, but doing his podium session with a backwards
Speaker 2: hat on just said, like man, you're my guy. And
Speaker 2: that was the case before we got to the combine.
Speaker 2: Though he's my QB two in this class. And I
Speaker 2: said this while we were at the Combine, and You're
Speaker 2: gonna see it happen. I'm telling you, you're gonna see
Speaker 2: it happen. All the big talking heads in the NFL
Speaker 2: draft media circle have not had Jackson Dart in the
Speaker 2: first round of their mock drafts. That is changing after
Speaker 2: the NFL Combine. It's gonna happen. He's going top fifteen
Speaker 2: in the NFL Draft. I'm saying it right now. I'm
Speaker 2: saying it with my chest. It's not the fact of
Speaker 2: oh he's rising. He's always been there, because what did
Speaker 2: he do last year in college after even throwing good
Speaker 2: at the Combine. It should have been he should have
Speaker 2: been ranked before there, before even the Combine. So I'm
Speaker 2: saying he's a winner because people are gonna now start
Speaker 2: putting respect on his name. But come on, guys, like
Speaker 2: top twelve last year in passing grade, adjust a completion
Speaker 2: rate yards per attempt. I could go on and on
Speaker 2: with about four or five other categories with this man
Speaker 2: finished top twelve, But I don't need to all you
Speaker 2: need to take away from this is Jackson Dart is
Speaker 2: really stinking good at football, and he's gonna be locked
Speaker 2: in top fifteen.
Speaker 1: Pick the people will say, well, are we doing the
Speaker 1: same thing that we did with say Kenny Pickett, right
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, where default can he Pickett
Speaker 1: rose up the charts? Right, Malik Willis rose up the
Speaker 1: charts because everybody was bored and you know, well, he
Speaker 1: throws a good deep ball and it's very exciting and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Right. Do you think that's what people
Speaker 1: are fighting against right now? I think people all the
Speaker 1: way Jackson Dart.
Speaker 2: I think people get stuck in their narratives. I think
Speaker 2: they talk about Jackson Dart and they're like, oh, in
Speaker 2: big games, he didn't do this and blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: and it's the Lane Kiffin offense. I heard all of
Speaker 2: this same garbage last year when people trying to shade
Speaker 2: jayde and Daniels and saying he's two, can't fly, he
Speaker 2: can't throw deep, he's a one year wonder. I mean,
Speaker 2: pick your crappy narrative, and Jane Daniels put all of
Speaker 2: them in a freaking coffin.
Speaker 3: Dart's gonna do the same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean usc Ole, miss you know, I mean
Speaker 1: every kid plays the two schools now at least nowadays.
Speaker 1: And Jackson Dart, we did the comp show. If you
Speaker 1: missed that, go back and watch the comp show was
Speaker 1: really fun. I called him Jeff Garcia and you know what,
Speaker 1: I watched more Jeff Garcia and I watched more Jackson
Speaker 1: Dart after that show, and I am completely convinced now
Speaker 1: that he is that reincarnation and that's not a bad thing.
Speaker 1: Of course, it was a pretty good quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Speaking about transitions of the NFL, Derek was asking him
Speaker 1: about that and the prospect of possibly playing for a
Speaker 1: team like the Raiders should the draft stock continue to rise.
Speaker 1: So here's some clips from the combine with Jackson Dart.
Speaker 1: All Right, Andrew Erickson, give me a QB that stood
Speaker 1: out to you. I know, it's not the greatest QB class.
Speaker 1: And cam Ward wasn't there, shan Or Sanders wasn't there. Heck,
Speaker 1: a lot of guys not there. So who was there
Speaker 1: that you maybe have a better opinion of after the combine?
Speaker 4: Well, it's another guy that Deebro really likes, not as
Speaker 4: high as Jackson Dart, but someone that he's like ericson,
Speaker 4: you gotta like check out this guy, Tyler Shuck, And
Speaker 4: I'm like, Tyler Shell, you mean shows out? No, No,
Speaker 4: Tyler Shuck. That's how you pronounce his name. And you
Speaker 4: were talking him about how many you know kids are
Speaker 4: playing at two schools. Now, well, he played at three
Speaker 4: different schools, so he has a lot of experience. He's
Speaker 4: actually going to be twenty six years old later this year,
Speaker 4: so that could be looked at as a negative, especially
Speaker 4: in the long term. But what we've seen with some
Speaker 4: of these other quarterbacks that have come out that have
Speaker 4: been very productive, Bonecks, Jade Daniels, these guys have experience,
Speaker 4: like they have played in so many different programs and
Speaker 4: so many different offenses. So I think that helps Tyler Shuck. Hey,
Speaker 4: if this kid needs to start a couple of games,
Speaker 4: I think that he has the arm talent to get
Speaker 4: it done. He tested really well for six three to
Speaker 4: forty yard dash was eighty fifth percentile, so he's someone
Speaker 4: that can add a little bit of value with his legs.
Speaker 4: He threw well in the passing drills, so again, not
Speaker 4: a lot of huge winners getting with the top guys
Speaker 4: not really not really participating. Tyler Shuck again, if someone else,
Speaker 4: someone else has to be the QB four in this class,
Speaker 4: like someone's got to step up. And Jayalen Milrom, I
Speaker 4: don't know if it's him, just based on how shaky
Speaker 4: he is a passer, even though his hands have magically
Speaker 4: grown since the Senior Bowl. I'm not really sure how
Speaker 4: that happened. But Tyler Schuck for me, is someone that
Speaker 4: you know, maybe we hear his name called and maybe
Speaker 4: he gets called into duty at some point during the season,
Speaker 4: gets drafted as a backup.
Speaker 1: All right, I will say quarterbacks were a little underwhelming.
Speaker 1: Gabriel was underwhelming, how Staate QB was underwhelming everybody. It's
Speaker 1: just it's it's not a great quarterback class. And again,
Speaker 1: I think what you're looking for some of this intangibles.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask you, if you look back and
Speaker 1: you watch it, did you see the Jackson's dart stuff
Speaker 1: I was talking about when he was like winking at
Speaker 1: the wide receivers and like joking around with them and
Speaker 1: smiling at them before they run around. That to me
Speaker 1: is just a cute, confident and you need that going
Speaker 1: to the NFL those intangibles really do make a huge difference.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna have a ton of mock draft shows
Speaker 1: here on the channel. Make sure you subscribe. Make sure
Speaker 1: you drop your comments below too, because I love to
Speaker 1: hear from the people. So tell me who is your
Speaker 1: favorite guy at the combine and maybe your least favorite.
Speaker 1: I know people, people don't love to be negative on
Speaker 1: the internet. I know it's hard. But if you have
Speaker 1: a loser or something you didn't like, you could share
Speaker 1: that with us too. In the comments section below, drop
Speaker 1: the comments. We love to hear from you, your winners
Speaker 1: and losers from the NFL combat because I know you
Speaker 1: are watching. We all watch it for hours and hours
Speaker 1: and hours until eventually you have to go outside and
Speaker 1: see sunlight again. But gentlemen, I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 1: The only other thing I can ask you is what
Speaker 1: was the biggest winning experience of the comment mine? For you?
Speaker 1: Andrew Erickson? Was there a moment? Was it Andrew?
Speaker 3: For you?
Speaker 1: Was it Debro getting recognized in public as Derek Brown
Speaker 1: from Fantasy Pros? Is that the highlight for you?
Speaker 4: That? I mean, that should be Deebros. I mean that
Speaker 4: should be his moment. But basically anytime Jalen Nole was
Speaker 4: brought up was basically Deebro's. I mean everything that was
Speaker 4: beshal tune. You know, it's it's it's I think it's
Speaker 4: a it's a special feeling. And I think Deebro had
Speaker 4: the same experience with Noel where you just go in,
Speaker 4: you're you're high on this sleeper prospect, and then he
Speaker 4: goes out and just now everybody knows his name, right,
Speaker 4: Oh sheell tune right, Oh, I remember him. And this
Speaker 4: is something I'm always going to remember going back to
Speaker 4: my first combine and I really hope that Beal Tutone
Speaker 4: has a great NFL career, but we'll always have twenty
Speaker 4: five twenty twenty five scouting combine where he blew it up.
Speaker 4: And if this is the highlight, so be it. We'll
Speaker 4: roll with it. But we were here before the party started,
Speaker 4: so that's my highlight.
Speaker 1: Debro. I heard the person recognize you was also wearing
Speaker 1: a pookin the coupa jersey. That you can't possibly be coincidence, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was funny.
Speaker 2: We were going to breakfast and we got stopped by
Speaker 2: this lovely couple and they were like, hey, we were
Speaker 2: both waiting for tables and just kind of standing out
Speaker 2: there trying not to freeze, and they were like, Hey, who.
Speaker 1: Are y'all with?
Speaker 2: And we're like, oh, where you're with the sports media company.
Speaker 2: We're here with Fantasy Pros. They're like and they were like,
Speaker 2: we just listened to the shows driving in today and
Speaker 2: we're like, oh, hey, what's going on?
Speaker 3: And chatted with them.
Speaker 2: Amazing people getting a chance to talk to people, you know,
Speaker 2: listeners of the show.
Speaker 1: I would say my.
Speaker 2: The highlight for me was probably the shrimp cocktail at
Speaker 2: Saint Emo's. I'm still trying to recover from that. It
Speaker 2: burned the inside of my soul and my mouth.
Speaker 1: I heard, that's the thing you gotta do when you
Speaker 1: go there, you gotta do this same.
Speaker 4: Are we not going to share our murderous row of
Speaker 4: people that we saw.
Speaker 3: At Oh go ahead, go ahead, Dame drop Ericson. It
Speaker 3: was a lot, dude.
Speaker 4: So we saw Wink Martindale, we saw Matt n Aggie,
Speaker 4: we saw Jonathan Ganna, we saw Arthur Smith. These other
Speaker 4: people are like all like group together and we're like
Speaker 4: trying to like, wait, how do they note? Like why
Speaker 4: Kelly was so.
Speaker 1: Hard to see? Arthur Smith and not one to yell
Speaker 1: at him.
Speaker 2: Well, we did want to yell in the direction of
Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannon, who he was having dinner with, because you know, Gannon's.
Speaker 3: On the good list.
Speaker 4: So yeah, the list. And then what was that another
Speaker 4: place we went to where we saw any.
Speaker 2: Eddie George walking out of the bar and he looked like, dude,
Speaker 2: he looked like the Red hule like. He looked like
Speaker 2: he could still saddle up on path late today is
Speaker 2: a great insane I didn't remember.
Speaker 1: That he's been doing over the last couple of years too.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that Eddie George took
Speaker 1: on a secondary career. He started acting, He did a fellow,
Speaker 1: He's done a lot of things. I mean, God blessed life.
Speaker 4: If you put him in the Rock in the same room,
Speaker 4: I might not be able to do it.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: The Rock was busy in Toronto this weekend, and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff went down. It was a busy
Speaker 1: weekend for wrestling, for NFL, for sports and entertainment, and
Speaker 1: sports entertainment, the Oscars, the whole thing. It was a
Speaker 1: busy weekend. But again, I'm very happy, excited. You guys
Speaker 1: got to have that experience. I hope. I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: Santa Claus if I could go next year. We'll see
Speaker 1: if it works out. Fingers crossed, but I am so
Speaker 1: thrilled you guys got that experience and obviously incredible footage
Speaker 1: you brought back here for the shows, and hopefully we'll
Speaker 1: all be there next year together. And I'm gonna pass
Speaker 1: on the shrimp cocktail. That'll do it for us. But
Speaker 1: the story of the game goes on for Debro and Ericson.
Speaker 1: I'm Joey p. We'll see you next time. Kids.
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