1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: All right, you've been around this business long enough. You've 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: been around this team this offseason, you know all the changes. 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: What's the first question that I'm gonna ask you? Um, 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: You're probably gonna ask me, how does it feel to 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: not play with all those guys? Maybe? And what's the answer. Um. 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: I mean it's a little it was weird at first, Um, 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: you know, because we've been playing together for you know, 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: six seven years. Um, But I think it's a new 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: challenge for us. And you know kJ is still here, 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: so you know, I got my partner in crime, so 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: you know, I'll be good. You know, our relationship is obviously, 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: you know, bigger than than football, So you know, Sherm 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: and all those guys are still in our heart. But 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: when we play them, it's gonna be a good game. 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: You and kJ head rocking chairs in the in the 16 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: locker room there. That's what it feels like. Man, we're 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: twenty eight. It's like, uh, you know, we gotta figure 18 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: out what music kids listen to. I gotta call them kids. 19 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: And now it's it's fun man, you know, I think 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: it's uh, it brings a new element. Everybody's asking this 21 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: questions and it's just kind of like, you know, coming 22 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: full circle because we used to be the young guys 23 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: to ask the older guys questions, and it's kind of 24 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: flipping around now. So I think it's fun. It's a 25 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: new challenge too. You know, when you take a look back, 26 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, the super Bowl was four years ago? Now, 27 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: does it seem like a lifetime ago because of all 28 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: the changes that have happened, It seems like a while ago. 29 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: You know, I feel like, um, so it seem like 30 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: you've had two different careers in this stage. No, because 31 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: I think we had the veterans to let us know that, 32 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: you know, we went to the super Bowl. This is 33 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: not something that happens often. You know. We had Fred 34 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: Jackson was on the team and he had been in 35 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: the league for twelve years and he'd never been to 36 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and so we were very you know, appreciative. 37 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: We knew that it wasn't gonna last, and we knew 38 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: that I wasn't gonna last. We knew it wasn't gonna happen. 39 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: It often we thought it was gonna happen, So we 40 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: had to make the most of it. But I feel like, 41 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, we'll be there again. You know, one of 42 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: the big things that a lot of people are talking 43 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: about is that, you know, with the Michael Bennetts and 44 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman and Cam and Cliff, those guys gone, that 45 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: allows you to be more of a leader. I think 46 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: anybody who's been around you though you've always been a leader, 47 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, with the team and inside the locker room, 48 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: but doesn't allow you to be more of a vocal leader. 49 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: I think it opens up the door for being more 50 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: vocal um. You know, obviously you got Mike concerned, they 51 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: talk a lot, and the Cliff is a quiet leader. 52 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: But I think it, you know, it kind of shows 53 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: light because, like like you said, I haven't really you know, 54 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: them leaving didn't really change anything for me from a 55 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: leadership perspective because I always felt like that, you know, 56 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: even from being vocal, I felt like each year I 57 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 1: was getting more vocal and more vocal. But I think 58 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: this year might be a little bit different because some 59 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: of the cameras that wouldn't be on me will be 60 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: on me and you might pick up something that you 61 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: wouldn't have seen if, ah, if a Mike been in, 62 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: if those guys were here. So for me, I don't 63 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 1: really look at it different and maybe there's a little 64 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: bit more opportunities for me to be vocal, but I 65 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: felt like I already stepped in that role before they left. 66 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: You talked early in camp, and I think maybe even 67 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: the first day saying that there was a new energy. 68 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: I think was the way you put it around here. 69 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: What is that new energy? Can you describe it? I 70 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: think it's just, you know, a lot of people are 71 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: writing this off. A lot of people are saying that, 72 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: you know, we're not gonna be good, or we don't 73 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: have the talent, and that reminds me of what it 74 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: was like when when I first got here, everybody was 75 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: saying that our draft class twelve draft class suck. Yeah, 76 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: we weren't gonna be good. You haven't forgotten that heavy. 77 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: I will never forget that. Everybody that that said we 78 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: were gonna be trashed, they will forever live that down. 79 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: But you know, they said we weren't gonna be good. 80 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: You know, they said, you know, Sharon wasn't gonna be 81 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: good cam those guys. So it was an energy that 82 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: we fed off of, and I think now it's kind 83 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: of the same thing. We got guys like you know, Shakim, 84 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: You know, we don't think he could play in the NFL. 85 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: You got guys like myself and Kja they can't lead 86 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: a team to two wins, and Russell he can't. You know, 87 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: there's all these people that say them, we can't, but 88 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: we know that we have the confidence and the guys 89 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: to do it. So it's gonna be a fun season 90 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: proving people wrong again. Is it about proving people wrong 91 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: or about proving yourself right? I think it's more for 92 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: me about proving people wrong because I know I don't 93 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: have to. You know, we have the confidence, we know 94 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: that what we're capable of, we know what we're gonna do. 95 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: It's just people writing this off. It's it's just a 96 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: little bit of added fire to the flame that was 97 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: already lived. You know. One of the things that you 98 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: talk about the old guys that have been around here 99 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: that aren't anymore. You lost one in Ken Norton, but 100 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: you got him back here yea. And I know that 101 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: you know you and he stay close even while he 102 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: wasn't with the Seahawks anymore. How much does that help 103 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: you having a new defensive coordinator but a guy that 104 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: you know, you know what he's like, and you also 105 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: know that he knows you and in the system you 106 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: want to teach her out there outside a lot man. 107 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: Just just him coming back, his energy. He's brought a 108 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: certain energy to the building. You know the first day 109 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: he walked in, just everybody from the floor one to 110 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: floor three, you know, from players to the personnel upstairs. 111 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: Just he brightens the energy up. But to have somebody 112 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: like that that knows you, that's helped you grow when 113 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: you first got in here, that you know, he stepped 114 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: away and went to Oakland and he grew as a 115 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: as a leader as a coach, and I grew as 116 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: a player as a leader. And to come back and 117 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: and um, you know, have him to try to do 118 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: something special will be amazing. You keep using the word energy. 119 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: Is that something that you felt was missing the last 120 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: couple of years or I don't. I don't think it 121 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,239 Speaker 1: was missing. I think there was just a different element 122 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: that you know, we our group, you know, hadn't been 123 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: up against yet. You know we had you know, when 124 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: when I came in and when Cam came in with Sherman, 125 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,239 Speaker 1: those guys came in. You know, we were all fighting 126 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: for spots. You know, we wanted to prove ourselves and 127 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: as we got to our year four, year five, you know, 128 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: we had young guys coming in, but we had a 129 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: team that been around for so long these spots were established. 130 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: So I think the guys that were coming in were 131 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: coming in with the more of a, um, you know, 132 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm a backup Bobby, I'm a backup Cam, not I'm 133 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: a eat them type of feel, which was mindset we had. 134 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: And I think maybe that was something that was a 135 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: little bit different, and you know, I feel like, you know, 136 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: it feels similar to that again, feel like people want 137 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: to come in and improve themselves, which is needed to 138 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: keep the program moving forward. Nobody's gonna take Bobby's job, 139 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, if they try, it's not gonna be. But 140 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: if that, even though they're not going after your job, 141 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: the fact that young guys are fighting for spots and 142 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: to prove themselves and not to be back up, that 143 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: affects you in a positive way. Yeah, that's a mentality 144 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: that I feel like you always have. Like, you know, 145 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: for me, it's like, whenever I'm thinking about not doing 146 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: that workout or not doing that rep or whatever, there's 147 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: a young guy out there that's doing that workout, that's 148 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: doing that rep. Now, I always think that way, and 149 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: so that allows me to push myself. But then you 150 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: get a guy in here that wants to take my 151 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: spot or wants to come and prove himself, and he's 152 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: out here fighting, it makes me fighting. We all work together, 153 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: so you know, if something happens to me, I know 154 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: the guy behind me is ready to take the spot. 155 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: So everything works together. One of the things as a leader, 156 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: vocal or not, you know, your job is to kind 157 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: of assess the team. So once you look at your 158 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: team and then your defense in particular, and give me 159 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: the strengths in the areas that you think you need 160 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: to work on between now and getting to the regular 161 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: season to be the kind of unit you want to be. 162 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: I feel, honestly the strength is the linebackers. I feel 163 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: like that's definitely our strengths. I think the weakness right now, 164 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: which I feel is something that we can easily fix, 165 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: is the communication. I feel like that's something that we 166 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: have to work on, because you know, when you come 167 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: from playing with a guy, you know, playing with Cam 168 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: for six years, playing with Sharon for six years, playing 169 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: with Mike for six years, there's certain things that you 170 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: don't even have to say anymore because you know how 171 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: he's going to play it. It's a nonverbal communication that 172 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: we have, and so that kind of hit a reset 173 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: and you gotta, you know, learn players over again. You 174 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: got to learn the people in front of you. Gotta 175 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: learn like how this guy communicates, because this guy might 176 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: not communicate like a CAM, like like a kJ And 177 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: so that's the thing that I feel like with these 178 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: preseason games that we have and all these games will 179 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: we'll figure that out pretty easy. And the guys, you know, 180 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: they've been here, be mac and those guys, they they'll 181 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: be fun. It's just experience. It's on the field together exactly. 182 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: I'm having fun. This is amazing. I love this game, 183 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: even though they trying to change it for the offense 184 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: every year is to make the NFL wants to make 185 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: the offense look good. And every year we have to 186 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: come up with another skill that they can't stop. And 187 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: then you know, they always developing rules to stop skills 188 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: that we develop. So uh so it's gonna be fun. Man, 189 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun to learn how to figure out 190 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: how they want to play this game. But it still 191 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: will be a game that is entertaining for me.