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Speaker 1: Guys for joining us for a daycap edition. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Canelo Crawford Radio Row. I want to thank Netflix. I

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Speaker 1: want to thank the Fountain Blue and all the other

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Speaker 1: Because of them, we are here today and we get

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Speaker 1: to bring this radio row to our audience who normally

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Speaker 1: So thank you again, Netflix, Thank you again Fountain Blue

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Speaker 1: Radio Row. We have a ton of guests rolling through.

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Speaker 1: This is early, you know how it is. A lot

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Speaker 1: of these people are very, very famous, and a lot

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Speaker 2: It don't come on our schedule.

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Speaker 1: So what we might have Tendley scheduled for say twelve fifteen,

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Speaker 1: twelve thirty, twelve forty five, it might be one one, fifteen,

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Speaker 1: some outstanding guests on the car tonight coming through to

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Speaker 1: talk to us about this fight. Jim Gray, who's a

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Speaker 1: good friend of mine, who's covered the sport of boxing

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Speaker 1: for forty plus years. He's gonna come here and gonna

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Speaker 1: tell us about what he expects from this fight, the

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Speaker 1: buzz that's been generated from this fight, because this is

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Speaker 1: one of the bigger fights OJO that we've seen in

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Speaker 1: a very long time. We see Bud Crawford going up

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Speaker 1: at one sixty eight.

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited about this Listen, I'm very excited.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the biggest, biggest draws, one of the

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Speaker 3: biggest gates since Pacchio and the Mayweather So I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: The buzz around the fight, the promotion around the fight,

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Speaker 3: where Turkey y' ali has been able to do and

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Speaker 3: making boxing great again, creating fights that people want to see.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited for the fight. Bud going up two weight classes. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of nervous. I'm kind of nervous being realistic,

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Speaker 3: sweet science. They have weight classes for a reason, yes,

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Speaker 3: but if there's anybody that can make history and has

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Speaker 3: Budd Crawford. I think Buddy's looking at it from from

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Speaker 1: Bud probably walks around at one eighty one eighty five

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Speaker 1: so I'm gonna have more strength, I'm gonna have more power.

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Speaker 1: fight night.

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Speaker 1: The thing that you know that you have to respect

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Speaker 1: And the question that everybody has, and I think it's

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Speaker 3: I understand that, but also Bud has to realize. We

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Speaker 3: talk about Canelo. Conelo is fort triple G. He's fought Bevall,

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Speaker 3: He's he's fought punchers. Now. The thing that most people

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Speaker 3: Cannelo sits on every punch and the timing. If if

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Speaker 3: he has to sit.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he has to say it's not.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, and he sits, and he telegraphs almost every punch

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Speaker 1: He punches with intent to hurt every time.

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Speaker 3: So if Buck can pick and choose win, engage win

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Speaker 3: the box box Smart obviously has a great, great ring IQ.

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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be okay, He's gonna have to

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Speaker 3: outbox Canelo. Yes, no, slug fast. No no, no, ego,

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Speaker 3: I can sit here. No no, no, no, you gotta

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Speaker 1: That's why Floyd would they Now he was younger when

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Speaker 1: I got something for you. That's how Buddy's gonna have

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Speaker 1: to fight him. Buddy's gonna have to look to counter everything,

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Speaker 1: knowing that the punches are a little slower when you

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Speaker 1: he got power. He got down right in his hand.

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Speaker 1: Now he's looking to turn the lights side of the building.

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Speaker 1: He wants to put on a performance because people are like, man, Canelo.

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Speaker 1: You know, Canelo just fighting these guys, and he's fighting

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Speaker 1: these guys that are past their prime, and that you

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Speaker 1: look at his resume, You're like, yeah, but look at

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Speaker 1: the guy. He's already he had lost three of his

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Speaker 1: look out here to make a statement, because if he

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: People are good, look when you're when you're great at something,

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Speaker 1: people are gonna nitpicky. People are gonna say, well, you

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Speaker 1: fought Crawford he was thirty eight. You didn't fight Crawford

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Speaker 1: at thirty. You didn't fight Crawford at thirty two. You

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Speaker 1: didn't fight Crawford at twenty. So they're gonna find something

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Speaker 5: They did the.

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Speaker 2: Same thing with Floyd.

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Speaker 1: They say, well Floyd, look at who Floyd be, But

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Speaker 1: be the same thing with Canelo. But I'm expecting an

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Speaker 1: outstanding fight. Absolutely, you know the one thing I do know,

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna back down. No, Absolutely, he's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be so something sometimes, don't you You gotta swallow your

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Speaker 1: prize and look good. I'm trying to win the fight.

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Speaker 1: Are you trying to win the fight or you're trying

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Speaker 1: to prove a point? Because if you're trying to prove

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Speaker 3: That I mean the common sense, common sense understanding obviously

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Speaker 3: to outsmart him. Yes, technically, Canelo is one of the

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Speaker 3: he can be a juggernaut when it sitstel On punches

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Speaker 1: When Ali fought Forming and the rumbling, the drunkle, he

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Speaker 1: the point by look, I took this fight.

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Speaker 2: I moved up two weight classes.

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Speaker 1: I thought somebody that somebody at a lower weight didn't

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, if they raise your hand victorious,

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Speaker 1: that nobody is gonna remember how They just gonna remember

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Speaker 1: man who man Budd bet Canelo and he moved up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, most definitely, most definitely.

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Speaker 1: Jim, Jim, come on, we have a Jim Gray.

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Speaker 6: Uh, Jim, my guy, goodness see you, Jill, don't have you?

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Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, It's great to see you guys. Good

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Speaker 5: to see you, Jim book.

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Speaker 1: Jim, you've covered the sport of box in forty years

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Speaker 1: and by being conservative for fifty.

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Speaker 5: Nineteen seventy seven. What is that forty eight years? I loved.

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Speaker 7: My first interview was Muhammad Ali. I was a video

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Speaker 3: Who was that like I've watched the clips. He was

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Speaker 7: So it opened all the doors for all of this

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Speaker 5: All those medals.

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Speaker 7: He finished fifth, he didn't win any medals, and then

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Speaker 3: As long as you've been doing boxing, has it ever

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Speaker 7: He hasn't been a person on the planet, not a

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Speaker 7: first of all. He was so accomplished, yes, and he

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Speaker 5: He had time for everybody.

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Speaker 7: I've never saw Mohammed in a hurry, and I got

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Speaker 5: He wasn't it wasn't a one way exchange.

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Speaker 7: And he had self awareness, so he knew what he

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Speaker 7: and Nelson Mandela the most remarkable people I've ever met

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Speaker 1: You mentioned that the accomplishments, and he was a great amateur,

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Speaker 2: He was far from that.

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Speaker 7: He had a lot of detractors. And you know his

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Speaker 7: In fact, we have the Hall of Excellence in Shannon,

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Speaker 5: He wasn't given a license to fight in America.

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Speaker 5: But Ali stood up. He had a social conscience.

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Speaker 7: He stood up for black America, he stood up for

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Speaker 7: And you know now we don't even think about it.

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Speaker 5: But you know what else?

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Speaker 7: And you guys noticed, Yes, what's the one thing you

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Speaker 7: So you couldn't you couldn't help but have respect, right

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Speaker 7: If you're not your phony Okay, that doesn't mean everybody

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Speaker 5: It is very important, exactly.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you're great, when you're more popular in

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Speaker 7: You know Nelson Mandela got to go over and spend

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Speaker 5: And you know he was a boxer. Did you know that.

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Speaker 7: simplistically brilliant thing I'd ever heard. He said, people will

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Speaker 7: but no one will ever forget the way you make

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Speaker 2: Yeahah, Jim, this fight.

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Speaker 1: You've been around some great fights, I mean Sugar Ray

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Speaker 5: It needed it bad.

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Speaker 7: he's also getting well compensated, and it feels that the

440
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Speaker 7: risk is worth the reward, and the reward will be

441
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Speaker 7: great if you can pull this off.

442
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Speaker 5: But it needs this.

443
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Speaker 7: Yes, we need the best fighting the best, and we

444
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,440
Speaker 7: don't have that so often. You know, promoters and all

445
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,920
Speaker 7: these folks who get involved in this, you know they've

446
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Speaker 7: been provincial for whatever the reason, and they've stayed true

447
00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,200
Speaker 7: to their guys who they promote on their networks where

448
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,720
Speaker 7: they have licensing deals. This has crossed all of these lines.

449
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Speaker 7: It's on Netflix. The whole world can tune this in. Yes,

450
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Speaker 7: the millions upon millions. Aaron it's going to be over

451
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Speaker 7: the Legion Stadium where the Raiders play in an NFL state,

452
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Speaker 7: is going to be the biggest crowd in the history

453
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Speaker 7: of Nevada to watch a fight.

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Speaker 5: And look who's fought here. All these fought here. Holmes

455
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Speaker 5: has fought.

456
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Speaker 7: Here, Hagler's fodder, Hearns, Mayweather, packiaut Tyson, the great Mike Tyson.

457
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Speaker 5: I mean, so when you look at what this is, yes,

458
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Speaker 5: the institution needs this.

459
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Speaker 7: The institution has been suffering, and now you've got Dana

460
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Speaker 7: White and Turkey and they're putting together this fight. And

461
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 7: by doing this, you know, it's bringing people to see

462
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Speaker 7: the best. We can't assess what the fight is afterward.

463
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Speaker 7: We can't say it's one of the great fights of

464
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Speaker 7: all time until.

465
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Speaker 2: We see it exactly.

466
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Speaker 5: So we don't know that.

467
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Speaker 7: I mean, I did a fight over here at Mandalay Bay,

468
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Speaker 7: greatest fight I ever saw, Case still carrals odd people

469
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Speaker 7: there and they play that back now on YouTube and

470
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Speaker 7: all over when we were back at showtime, it's the

471
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Speaker 7: greatest fight ever.

472
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Speaker 5: Nobody thought that before.

473
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Speaker 7: So we can't say what this is going to be until,

474
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Speaker 7: you know, until Saturday night at midnight.

475
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Speaker 3: So do you think the resurgence of the sport of

476
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Speaker 3: boxing it's happening now because of Turkey's interest in the

477
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Speaker 3: sport now and being able to make some of the

478
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Speaker 3: great fights that we myself a huge boxing fan. Do

479
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Speaker 3: you think him being interested in boxing is allowed now?

480
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 3: Boxer is wanting to take that chance, and most of

481
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Speaker 3: them not taking a chance because they don't want that zero.

482
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Speaker 3: Nobody wants to lose.

483
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Speaker 7: Its certainly helped a lot, But you know, the zero

484
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 7: doesn't define you. How many games did did the Philadelphia

485
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Speaker 7: Eagles lose last year?

486
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Speaker 5: How many? I don't know what was it? Four or five?

487
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I can't remember three, We can't even remember. Okay,

488
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,679
Speaker 7: this isn't you know? Boxing should not have been Floyd

489
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:16,679
Speaker 7: ruined this sport.

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Speaker 3: Sport.

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Speaker 7: I don't mean that personal I love him personally, and

492
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Speaker 7: I love his accomplishments and his achievements, and he was

493
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Speaker 7: great to me, he was great to show time, and

494
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Speaker 7: I'm friends with him to this day, and I admire.

495
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Speaker 5: And respect him.

496
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Speaker 7: But he ruined the sport because the only thing that

497
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Speaker 7: mattered was the zero. Yes, okay, and so what did

498
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Speaker 7: that do to all of these other fight about the zero?

499
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Speaker 1: But we do that too, though, because if a guy

500
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Speaker 1: lose a fight, we throw them to the waistside in

501
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Speaker 1: that gym tournament.

502
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Speaker 7: It shouldn't be that, I know, look at with Duran

503
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Speaker 7: and Hagler and Hearns and Leonard and all.

504
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Speaker 5: These guys fighting each other all the time.

505
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Speaker 2: We didn't.

506
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Speaker 1: We didn't criticize them when they lost. The sugar Rate

507
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 1: lost to Duran, we didn't criticize it. When Hearns lost

508
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Speaker 1: to Leonard, we didn't criticize it, when Hagler lost, we

509
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Speaker 1: didn't criticize it. These guys if of course, But why

510
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: now we're gonna criticize them?

511
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Speaker 5: If tain't, David here.

512
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Speaker 1: You're doing that because I've been following.

513
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Speaker 2: I've been following the fire I came.

514
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Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember the eighties when they had

515
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Speaker 1: the four horsemen and they fought the best, fault the

516
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Speaker 1: best best. It wasn't no ducking and dodging. In the seventies,

517
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Speaker 1: the heavyweight Norton fault, Foreman fault.

518
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Speaker 5: We didn't get mad at Fraser when Forman three times.

519
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Speaker 2: Right, well, no Foreman fault, I'll leave three times.

520
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Speaker 7: No, no Fraser fat, I'll leave three times Farman and

521
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Speaker 7: Fraser fought once. Yes, but I can tell you we

522
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Speaker 7: didn't diminish what Joe had accomplished or what he could

523
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Speaker 7: do in a future. No.

524
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Speaker 1: But why do we do that, Jim, Jim, You've been

525
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Speaker 1: around this thing for forty five decades.

526
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Speaker 7: I'm not sure where all that turns, and I'm not

527
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Speaker 7: sure why I can't pinpoint it.

528
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Speaker 5: Uh. And I don't really mean to blame Floyd, but

529
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Speaker 5: Floyd Florida's great Floyd Fauld.

530
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Speaker 7: Think about where the Zeros have only mattered in a career.

531
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Speaker 7: Think about that seven sixteen whatever, fourteen to O, then

532
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Speaker 7: seventeen to no. Don Shuler and the Miami Dolphins. Yes, okay,

533
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Speaker 7: so then they that defined their lives.

534
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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, Not that he was.

535
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Speaker 7: The greatest coach in the history with three hundred and

536
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Speaker 7: forty seven wins. It was the undefeated seasons, so maybe

537
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Speaker 7: it was seventy two.

538
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Speaker 1: The last won nineteen seventy six when it went undefeated.

539
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Speaker 7: But you know who never defined out on interrupted, you know,

540
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 7: never defined themselves by winning or never mentioned the word

541
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Speaker 7: win once, never once mentioned the word.

542
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Speaker 5: Win to his team. John Wooden, and he won. He

543
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Speaker 5: had three undefeated seasons and ten national.

544
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Speaker 7: Championships and Bill Walton and Kareem and all these guys,

545
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Speaker 7: Jamal Wilkes.

546
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Speaker 3: The difference is is the error boxing that you're talking,

547
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Speaker 3: the air boxing that you started out you think about

548
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 3: the araboxing that we're in now. I think fighters are

549
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 3: scared to take the chances because it ruins being the

550
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Speaker 3: a side having a loss or one or maybe two

551
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 3: or maybe three. It ruins your purse, what you're able

552
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Speaker 3: to command. So I think it's the financial reasons on

553
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 3: why they don't want to take those chances. And I

554
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Speaker 3: think again we're Turkey coming into the game now, Dan

555
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 3: and White being a part and all the different sponsors

556
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 3: and advertisers, I think more boxers are going to be

557
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 3: willing to take chances against opponents that are just as skilled,

558
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 3: that are not as flawed, and you're not fighting inferior

559
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 3: opponents anymore, and you're giving the people, the fans fights

560
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Speaker 3: we really want to see. I really want to see

561
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Speaker 3: Shakur Stevenson in Tifo Mo Lopez.

562
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I really want to see that. Well, you know,

563
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Speaker 5: here's here's what it is. It needs a model that

564
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Speaker 5: can work. The other model hasn't worked.

565
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Speaker 7: If the other model worked we'd still be on showtime,

566
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Speaker 7: HBO would still be in the game. ESPN wouldn't have

567
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 7: gotten out of top rank. You know, we wouldn't have

568
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Speaker 7: what we have. And so it needs a drastic shift

569
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Speaker 7: to get to a place where we can see it.

570
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Speaker 5: And what happens when this doesn't work.

571
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Speaker 7: We don't have people coming up in the pipeline like

572
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Speaker 7: because they can't get exposed. So if you don't know

573
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 7: any of these people fighting, why would you go buy

574
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Speaker 7: a ticket?

575
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true.

576
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Speaker 7: So it needs this and and and so it's at

577
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 7: the right time. And you know, and and by the way,

578
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 7: there's been disruption and everything. Look at the disruption in

579
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 7: television and streaming and podcasts and radio, and I mean

580
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 7: just look at how everything is changed. So boxing has

581
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 7: to go with it, and it hasn't. And now now

582
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 7: the time may be right.

583
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Speaker 3: Speaking of great fights, speaking of boxing, there's a great

584
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 3: fight coming up that I want to make sure that

585
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 3: you're there to announce. Uh I'm I'm I'm fighting on

586
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Speaker 3: behalf of us. And I want to know your thoughts

587
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Speaker 3: on Jim, I want to fight andre Ward ten round,

588
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Speaker 3: ten rounds, three minute rounds. What do you think is

589
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 3: going to happen.

590
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Speaker 5: Wait before you say anything, to wear your helmet.

591
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Speaker 3: No, I'm not wearing my head. But I'm gonna beat

592
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: his ass.

593
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 5: What's the what's the problem.

594
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: He has a punishable face.

595
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness.

596
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 3: So I just want to know how you think that

597
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 3: fight's gonna turn out. Six months six six months of training,

598
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 3: We're gonna fight here.

599
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Speaker 7: Very famous saying yeah, I'm on your show. So I

600
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 7: want to be a good guest. You don't play boxing,

601
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 7: No you don't. You can't play boxing. You can play football,

602
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 7: you can play baseball. Yeah, you don't play boxing.

603
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 2: No you don't.

604
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 3: You don't know. I understand think this one through.

605
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 5: Yeah I did.

606
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: I did that.

607
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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this.

608
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Speaker 1: If Crawford were to pull this off, where would you

609
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: rank this as far as upsets in the world of boxing.

610
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 5: Wow, that's a good one. That's a very good one.

611
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 7: Well, it's not Buster Douglas because the man's forty one

612
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 7: to Oh okay, So it's not Buster Douglas against Mike Tyson.

613
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Speaker 7: So it doesn't go up into that we thought was

614
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 7: not Rocky Balboa. Okay, some guy we never heard of.

615
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 7: We we know Bud Crawford and we know he's great. Okay,

616
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Speaker 7: you know, perhaps it's holy Field over Tyson. Wow, Perhaps

617
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 7: it's holy Field over Tyson the first fight, yes, not

618
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 7: the year biting, Yes, because I don't think anybody saw

619
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 7: that coming. No. And and Holyfield was an accomplished fighter

620
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 7: who had done great you know, cruiserweight champion and so forth.

621
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Speaker 7: And you know, so that might be a good comparison.

622
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: Roy Ruiz Roy moving up from sixty eight to and

623
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Speaker 1: he ended up winning at one ninety three games twenty

624
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: five pounds. He took the heavyweight title from John Ruiz.

625
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of guys that have.

626
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 7: Moved the Ruiz wasn't in the Canalo No, not even

627
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 7: would you think?

628
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 5: Right? What he won? One?

629
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Speaker 7: He won Ludy be right, Deontae yeah, or whoever he

630
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 7: had beaten? Joshua beat Joshua?

631
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: What about speak sober Ali?

632
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 5: Well, that was huge, That was a big That was big.

633
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 7: But again again again that was a guy who had

634
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 7: very little fights. Yes, and you know he was an

635
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 7: Olympic champion, and so there was hope for him.

636
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: Yes.

637
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 7: But but but Crawford is, but Crawford.

638
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 2: Is is he really accomplished?

639
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 7: So so so he's not in a he's not a

640
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 7: the Leon Sphinx Canada. I mean moving up and wait it.

641
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 7: Look it's tough, and Canelo found that out against Bevo.

642
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 7: You know, Look, he thought he was going to pick

643
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 7: a fight that he was going to win, all right,

644
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 7: and the guy was bigger and stronger and he had

645
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 7: a better night.

646
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Speaker 5: And so that's a hard.

647
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Speaker 7: But I kind of like, I kind of like Holyfield

648
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 7: over Typhon because Holyfield was accomplished.

649
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: Handicap this what do you think You think it goes

650
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: to distance? You think somebody ends it.

651
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 7: Well, nobody's gone down, So I don't know what would

652
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 7: cause I don't see how Bud Crawford can hurt Canelo.

653
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 5: I just don't see it.

654
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 7: He might outbox him, and he might outpoint him, and

655
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 7: he might he might do all of those things. But

656
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 7: it's hard to see Canelo going down to Bud Crawford,

657
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 7: a smaller guy. Now, the interesting thing about this is

658
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 7: Bud's three years older, but he's only fought half as

659
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 7: many rounds, so he has so so Canelo has so

660
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Speaker 7: much more experience, but he's also been punished more. Yes,

661
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 7: he's taken and he's taken on and if you look

662
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 7: back over the past seven years. You know, Canelos, you

663
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 7: know who's he beat. But then you can look at

664
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 7: Button you could say who's he fought. He fought Aero

665
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 7: Spence after he flipped his car nineteen times and he

666
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 7: was damaged. And this isn't to take away because they're

667
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 7: only fighting the people who.

668
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 5: Are in front of front of you, right, So.

669
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: That yeah, we love to see we rewind the hands

670
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: of time and put a prime Sugarray, a prime mar

671
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: Heard and all those de reds. But that ain't happening.

672
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: You got to fight who's in your era, and the

673
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: era of fighters that we had in the eighties in

674
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: that division, in that class is just.

675
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: Not there anymore.

676
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 7: See, we let the other one bake too long. Floyd

677
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 7: against Pacquiao, that was the last big fight that we

678
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 7: had really in Las Vegas. You could say, you know,

679
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 7: look Wilder and Fury. I don't know how Deontay Wilder

680
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 7: he hit that guy. I still don't know how Fury

681
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 7: got up. That was Frank's but that guy got up somehow.

682
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 7: I mean Jack Reeves helped Jack Reese literally like on

683
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 7: the twenty three.

684
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 5: You're supposed to I mean, come on, who are you?

685
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 5: Who am I where are we? Where is your logo?

686
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 7: What car does your dad drive? I mean, what are

687
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 7: you asking all these questions? You walk in them back?

688
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 7: He didn get up a ten or you can't. Either

689
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 7: you can fight or you can't. So Jack Reese, I

690
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 7: was terrible. Jack Reese did a terrible job that night,

691
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 7: but accomplished official, accomplished referee.

692
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 5: But that was bad.

693
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 7: But but you could argue that that was you know,

694
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 7: there was some compelling to that. But we really haven't

695
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 7: had anything quite since Pacquiao and Mayweather, and unfortunately that

696
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,959
Speaker 7: it just took too long and then pack you out

697
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 7: the bad.

698
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 5: Shoulder and Floyd Floyd won the fight.

699
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: Is that while we're getting all these exhibitions now because

700
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: boxing is missing and we want those guys to be

701
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: able to fight again, and so we're willing to pay,

702
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: We're willing to watch them way past their prime, a

703
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: sixty one sixty year old Mike Tyson against a forty

704
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: plus year old Floyd Mayweather.

705
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: But we get a.

706
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: Jake Paul fighting a tank Davis. Is that while we're

707
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: seeing what we're seeing now.

708
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 7: Jim, you know, I'm always for you guys, I'm always

709
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 7: for the athlete.

710
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

711
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 5: So I don't. I don't. I don't get into all

712
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 5: of that.

713
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 7: I mean, Jake Paul has brought people to the television

714
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 7: set that wouldn't normally come correct. Now he's becoming a

715
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 7: better boxer. I guess, yes, you know, I did his

716
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,479
Speaker 7: first fight when when when Tyson fought Roy Jones during COVID,

717
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 7: you know that was and Mike put on a great

718
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 7: performance against Roy Jones, and you know.

719
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 5: That was a that was a terrific exhibition for a.

720
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 7: Guy I think he was fifty five at the time,

721
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 7: and so, uh that that was cool. And then Jake

722
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 7: came on the scene that night he knocked.

723
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 5: Out Nate Robbie Robinson.

724
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, and uh, and you know he's tried to enhance

725
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 7: his growth, but he's fighting a bunch of people that

726
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 7: you know, you know, aren't really you know, in the

727
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 7: genre of you know, he's fighting MMA guys and UFC

728
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 7: guys and so on and so forth. And now his

729
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 7: next fight is against Tank. I mean there's eight seventy pounds.

730
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 7: I mean, yes, Georgia didn't even know if they're going

731
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 7: to license it. I don't know, you know, we don't

732
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 7: know what's going to happen with all of this, So

733
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 7: I guess it's good that he brings folks that he

734
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 7: wouldn't bring so they get exposed to boxing. But on

735
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 7: the other hand, you know, this is what this is,

736
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 7: what the game is. You know, the guys who've dedicated

737
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 7: themselves to to to the sport.

738
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 5: And again I'm not.

739
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 7: Against anybody doing anything for their livelihood. So if Mike

740
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 7: wants to fight, I hope he doesn't get hurt.

741
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 5: Paul. I didn't.

742
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 7: I didn't know this, but Jake Paul had tremendous humanity.

743
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 7: He could have hurt Mike and he backed off. He

744
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 7: could have hurt him and he he had, and he

745
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 7: had the decency and humanity not to.

746
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: So you did you heard it here? First Jim said,

747
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: it's okay to beat up andre Ward.

748
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 7: You need the money, you need to fight. We're gonna

749
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 7: be here to the sport you need. You need to

750
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 7: prove something to go ahead and prove it.

751
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 5: But guess what. They gave you a helmet for a

752
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 5: reason for Jim.

753
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

754
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: Jim, thank you, broadcaster, Thank you so much for joining us.

755
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 5: Jim, thank you.

756
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: All right, our next guests coming to the stage right

757
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: now here. He is he's all the way. He's walking

758
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: to the stage as we speak here he is. Ladies

759
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: him too, You want to fight him?

760
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: One? As chat came a plan, ladies and gentlemen.

761
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 5: I'm here, Bro.

762
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: You good, Bro, Thanks you j I gotta side you

763
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: will come through.

764
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. All right, Mike, Hey Tom, you

765
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: want to fight? All right? Let me go.

766
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: All right, ladies, gentlemen, we have Caleb Plaig Johnny Us. Caleb.

767
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: How you doing, man, man, dude, Well, appreciate y'all having

768
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: me on. I appreciate you coming by. Obviously, we got

769
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: Canelo Crawford. We got Crawford moving up two weight classes.

770
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: Basically he don't have one fight at fifty four, so

771
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: basically it's a three weight class jump because he's going

772
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: from basically forty seven, skip fifty four, skip sixty going

773
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: to sixty eight. What are your expectations in this fight,

774
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: because everybody's likeing, can Bud take a punch when he

775
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: feels Canelo's power? Will he retreat or will he try

776
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: to send something back? How do you think the thing

777
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: plays out?

778
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: Well?

779
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 8: I think it's gonna be a good fight. I don't

780
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 8: think it's gonna be a snoozer, I don't think, you know,

781
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 8: And if if we were to take a guess at

782
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 8: who would allow it to be a snoozer, we'd have

783
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 8: to guess Terrence. Because he's in the lower weight class

784
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 8: and he gets hit, he's just gonna get on his bike, right,

785
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 8: And that's just not in Terrence's DNA. You know, if

786
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 8: he feels his power and thinks, man, I'm gonna have

787
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 8: to land something bigger, he's gonna land something big. One

788
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 8: of us has got to go. Terrence is the type

789
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 8: of guy who will go out on his shield, respectfully,

790
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 8: because that's just the type of person there's And there's

791
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 8: no amount, there's no stage that will you know that

792
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 8: he'll change course from doing that, you know what I'm saying.

793
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 8: So I think it's gonna be a great fight.

794
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: We thought we're gonna get that type of fight with Charlo,

795
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: and it seems like when Charlo felt Canelo's power, all

796
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's like, uh no, no. And but

797
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: knowing Bud watching blood fight, that's not Buz's mentality.

798
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: Budd is gonna push forward.

799
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 3: Now.

800
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: I don't recommend standing in the pocket, but Bud can box,

801
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: and I think in the order for him to win

802
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: this fight. I don't believe he can beat him in

803
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: a slug fist. I believe I believe he's gonna have

804
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: to appoint him.

805
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: What's the you.

806
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 8: I think that the thing about Terrence is he can

807
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 8: fight left handed right handed, and just as importantly, he

808
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 8: can fight at long range, he can fight at mid range,

809
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 8: and he can fight a close range. And uh, you

810
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 8: know what do I know?

811
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: Right?

812
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 8: But I think, uh, you know, I think it would

813
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 8: be wise of Terrence that he's either gonna be boxing

814
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 8: on the outside right or he needs to be all

815
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 8: the way inside. He doesn't need to be in between.

816
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 8: He doesn't need to be at mid range. And when

817
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 8: he's on inside he can some other but he doesn't

818
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 8: just have to do that. He can fight on the inside,

819
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 8: he can box on the inside, he can take angles

820
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 8: on the inside, but he needs to be close. So

821
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 8: he needs either be all the way or all the

822
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 8: way out right. And that's just my you know, two

823
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 8: cents on that. But at the same time, you know

824
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 8: the saying, there's a saying for a reason, and it's

825
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 8: that there are way classes for a reason, you know

826
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 8: what I mean? And as you spoke to Terrence only

827
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 8: fighting once at one pint fifty four against Madrimov what

828
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 8: you won and now moving up two more, but spending

829
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 8: most of his career at forty seven and forty and

830
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 8: thirty five. But with the greatness that he's accomplished and

831
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 8: how great he is and how great it's like, where

832
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 8: do you draw the line in the sand on the

833
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 8: tipping point right? And that's what I'm excited to see.

834
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 3: If you could write the perfect story with it coming

835
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: to an end, and you're control of that ending where

836
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: you are right now in your boxing career and everything

837
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: that you've accomplished, what else do you have left that

838
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 3: you want to achieve in that story?

839
00:36:54,160 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 8: I think, you know, I think children give us new perspective,

840
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 8: you know what I mean? And I got I'm a

841
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 8: I'm a daddy of three, got you know, two here

842
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 8: with me, And you know, I think it's important that

843
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 8: we show our children that even if we stumble, even

844
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 8: if we fall, that's no reason to stay down. You know,

845
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 8: you got to get up. You gotta just yourself back off,

846
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 8: and you got to keep going, regardless of what social

847
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 8: media or the world or your best friend is telling you.

848
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 8: You know, you you owe it to yourself, and so

849
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 8: just for me to add to my legacy of accomplishing

850
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 8: what I can, whether that's another world title or you know,

851
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 8: there's big fights out there for me that don't even

852
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 8: where a title is not even involved, you know, And

853
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 8: so I'd love to be a part of those big fights.

854
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: You know.

855
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 8: Put more money in my bank count on her, you

856
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 8: know what I'm saying. But money's not my continuing reason,

857
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. It's about showing my kids

858
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 8: and my children what you can do if you put

859
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 8: your mind to it.

860
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: Do you think that addition into the service of Turkey

861
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 3: Ali interests in boxing has changed the landscape of it,

862
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: allowing some of the great fighters to take chances fighting

863
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 3: other great fighters.

864
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

865
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 8: I mean, if he's trying to bring it together as

866
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 8: a whole in one whether whether it's not other companies

867
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 8: that male, is that what you're speaking to.

868
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, in a sense, it just in a sense boxing

869
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 3: fans like myself, it was very difficult for us to

870
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 3: get the fights that we wanted to see.

871
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, But so many, so many fighters.

872
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: Were weren't willing to take chances. They don't want to.

873
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: They don't want to, they don't want to take any

874
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 3: I want to.

875
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 5: Protect the zero, yep.

876
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 8: But Turkey's not gonna be able to change those fighters' minds.

877
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 8: It's up to the fighter right to decide that. I

878
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 8: may lose my own but me proving how great I

879
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 8: think I am is more important than that. And I

880
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 8: did that before Turkey got And not that Turkey is

881
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 8: not a great thing for boxing, But I'm just saying

882
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 8: him coming along doesn't necessarily doesn't necessarily mean that he's

883
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 8: gonna be able to change everybody's mind. He didn't change

884
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 8: Terrence Crawford's mind because Terrence has been doing that. He

885
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 8: didn't change Usick's mind because Usik's been wanted to do that,

886
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 8: you know what I mean.

887
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: And so I like that. I like what you said. Yeah, Chad,

888
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: listen to what he said. Greatness is not tied to

889
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: a zero. See, people have tied boxes. A lot of

890
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: boxers have tied greatness to undefeated Sugar Ray Leonard and

891
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: Hearns and Hagler and a Lei and Forman and Fraser.

892
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 1: They fought the best because I believe I'm great. Whatever happens,

893
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: I believe I'm.

894
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 8: Great, And if you think you can beat me, then

895
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 8: let's get out there and roll the dice and say

896
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 8: that's proven. And you know, not all there's fights before

897
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 8: let's say, before Turkey came along. There's fights that haven't

898
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 8: gotten made. Some of those may be because of powers

899
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 8: that be, but and assure you that a lot of

900
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 8: it is because there's certain fighters that don't want to

901
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 8: get in there and be proven wrong, right, and they're

902
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 8: only going to fight fighters who they know they can

903
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 8: prove themselves right against. Yes, but that's not that's not greatness, right,

904
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 8: that's the witness protection program.

905
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: Think about it. It's like, you know what, I can

906
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: fight somebody that really challenged me, and that chance I

907
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: could lose, and I could lose. I can make twin

908
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: and billion. Oh, I can fight this guy. I know

909
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: I can beat you. Make twelve give it that twelve. Yeah,

910
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: give it a twelve.

911
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 5: Yea.

912
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 8: And in the meantime, I'll continue to grow my brand

913
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 8: as a fighter, my personal brand. I'll continue you know

914
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 8: what I mean.

915
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: By the time I do lose, I've made three hundred

916
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: million dollars.

917
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 2: I'm cool. I'll just walk away.

918
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 3: Do you think one of the reasons that fighters don't

919
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 3: want to take a chance of having a zero you

920
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 3: think affects them being the a side, affects their purse,

921
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 3: affects the kind of money they're able to command when

922
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: it comes to you know, big name fights.

923
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's fighters out there I like, for instance, you

924
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 8: know I lost my last fight. I'm still one of

925
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 8: the most popular fighters. Yeah, boxing, right.

926
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 3: But you're a draw.

927
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 2: You're different.

928
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 8: But I'm a daw. I'm not saying my team is

929
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 8: doing this to me. By no means am I saying that.

930
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 8: I'm saying there's other people out there who work in

931
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 8: boxing who will tele fighter. We'll try to convince him otherwise. Oh,

932
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 8: you lost, so you're not a big draw, so now

933
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 8: we're gonna pay you this instead of that when you

934
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 8: when you do put asses in seats. And again I'm

935
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 8: not talking about me personally, but there's people out there

936
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 8: who try to convince fighters otherwise. So that's one reason

937
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 8: they try to play it safe.

938
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: Okay, is there a fight out there that you won't.

939
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 5: I ain't a fight, man, it is, is it?

940
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: Yeah?

941
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 3: Why not getting people what they won't as a chat?

942
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: That's what they want to see Caleb playing versus oo,

943
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: that's what they want. Yeah, you don't think so, I.

944
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 5: Ain't heard it. I ain't heard it.

945
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: But you he lived before it. I mean, hey, we

946
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: could beg.

947
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: A half of he said, I trained, I trained. You

948
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 3: know I'm saying, I try.

949
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 8: Ran his ass off the gym on day one, out

950
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 8: the gym on day one.

951
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I'm just you got and you got to

952
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 3: go and camp in different camps.

953
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 5: So I can.

954
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 3: I can. I can.

955
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 8: But that's something that I respect about Oho is, you know,

956
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 8: like he's accomplished everything and done everything that he has

957
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 8: in his respective field, and then for him to come

958
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 8: over to such a dangerous and really care about the

959
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 8: fighters that really come be a part of our camps

960
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 8: and not just talk about it, but get out there.

961
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 8: And I've seen them do roadwork with fighters, the same

962
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 8: sparal fighters. I've seen them, you know, hit the bag

963
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 8: and a lot of us were in positions where that's

964
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 8: like the only way we could even stay alive, right,

965
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 8: But it's the same for him, you know what I'm

966
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 8: trying to say, It's like I can appreciate someone who

967
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 8: can come from a different field and not have.

968
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: To be a part of Hawks and do that. But

969
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: he got there doing.

970
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 8: It, and he's in the trenches he's been in the

971
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 8: trenches with us taking this serious. But he still says

972
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 8: no chance, zero, I'm finna fight and Wards yeah, yeah, No,

973
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 8: he's gonna say you're not on my side. I didn't

974
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 8: say that. I'm keep my comment. What was you about

975
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 8: to say?

976
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: This?

977
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: Canelo Crawford, This is, you know, a fight that people

978
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: really want to see, and we haven't had a whole

979
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: lot of those. Kaler, Is that why you think we're

980
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: seeing a lot more of the exhibitions? I asked Jim

981
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: Grade this earlier. We're starting to see a lot more

982
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: exhibition than guys making ten, fifteen, twenty million dollars doing exhibition.

983
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: So you have to go in there the exhibition. Would

984
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: you get in there with Jake Paul You know what

985
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean?

986
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 3: That wouldn't be fair. But you killed Jake Paul Man.

987
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 8: No, I do want to say something about Jake though

988
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 8: he's saying it's similar somewhat to me talking about Ojo.

989
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 8: You know, everything he's accomplished, everything he's done, all the

990
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 8: money he's made, and then for him to step into

991
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 8: a sportlight boxing and put that work in with people

992
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 8: like Coach Wade and Jay Leon and all them guys,

993
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 8: he doesn't have to do that. And I thought, man,

994
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 8: he lost to Tommy Ferry, like we about to find

995
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 8: out if he really wants to do this or not,

996
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 8: or if he was just trodden the wave. And sure enough,

997
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 8: he stuck around. And you know, he doesn't have an

998
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 8: amateur experience, so he is using some of these guys

999
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 8: to gain that experience as he steps up. But you know,

1000
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 8: you do have to hit your hot to a guy

1001
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 8: like that, right, But.

1002
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: If your fight.

1003
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: So, this is the biggest fight we've had in a while,

1004
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: and we don't get big fights like we used to.

1005
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: We used to get big fights damn near every other

1006
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: month at least two to three times a year.

1007
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: This might be.

1008
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 1: This might this is the biggest fight that we've had

1009
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: in twenty five So who would.

1010
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: You like to fight that?

1011
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: You know, we was like, okay, man, we're gonna come out. Man,

1012
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: we need to see this. We need to see this

1013
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: Caleb Planing fight. We need to see We just what

1014
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: we need. This is what we need to tune in for.

1015
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think me and Berlinga. Yeah, you know, that's

1016
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 8: the fight that I've been calling for. You know, I

1017
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 8: think me and Charlo. You know, that's another fight that

1018
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 8: people have been calling for it. So yeah, I like

1019
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 8: that Jamal, Yeah, one sixty and now he's moving up

1020
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 8: to sixty eight and belt or no belt. You know

1021
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 8: that's a big fight because it's the fighters who make

1022
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 8: the fights.

1023
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 2: Big, correct.

1024
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: But a lot of times people think, well, if I

1025
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: fight for the belt, why the hell am I fighting?

1026
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 8: But everybody great, But you're fighting for legacy. And you know,

1027
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 8: my dad used to say, people like legacy or money,

1028
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 8: the legacy fights all the big money fights. Is this

1029
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 8: a legacy fight? How much money you think is attached

1030
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 8: to this fight? All my biggest fights, all my legacy

1031
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 8: fights have been my biggest money fights. You can get both,

1032
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 8: but they try to frame it like legacy or money, Right,

1033
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 8: you can get both in the same night.

1034
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1035
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: I mean if you go back and if you look

1036
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: at all the historically, what we think are great fighters,

1037
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: from Sugar Ray Robinson to Muhammad Ali to Sugar Ray,

1038
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: Leonard Armstrong with whoever they lost.

1039
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 8: Bernard Durant got about what sixteen losses?

1040
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: He does he can uh, he went up. Duran went

1041
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: like eighty five and oh and then.

1042
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: He started he started to lose it.

1043
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: But when you look at it, though, Caleb, when you

1044
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: look at these guys, is that the old has become

1045
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: so prevalent and Floyd and so not everybody thinks they're

1046
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 1: gonna be Floyd Mayweather. Even if you retire undefeated, people

1047
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: are not going.

1048
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 2: To look at you like they look at Floyd Mayweather.

1049
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 8: And not to mention you messing up right off the

1050
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 8: rip if you're trying to be somebody else, because guarantee,

1051
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 8: you know, you guys probably had influences and people guys

1052
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 8: you looked up to in the NFL, but you weren't

1053
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 8: trying to be you're trying to be You're trying to

1054
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 8: be o Jo Sinko. Yes, And if you, you know,

1055
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 8: spent your whole career trying to be this guy, trying

1056
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 8: to be that guy, we wouldn't even be talking right now, correct, right, yeah, right,

1057
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 8: you'd be making me a hamburger right now, Ain't that right?

1058
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: So you won't you won't playing. We can put this together.

1059
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: I can have my people call this people. We could

1060
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: put we could put a five round.

1061
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 3: That's disrespectful, cheers now he can't even count to five.

1062
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: Ten you want tend Okay, we do ten two minute.

1063
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 3: Rounds no, ten, that's disrespectful to the sport.

1064
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 5: Look what did woman a round?

1065
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 8: Three minute rest for you?

1066
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: No?

1067
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 5: I don't need no rest.

1068
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 3: I ain't stopped training since we training in Vegas. I'll

1069
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: still be going. Yeah, I'm on year.

1070
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: So what we so what?

1071
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 5: So?

1072
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: What way we're gonna fight that?

1073
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 3: I want you waiting. We cant catchweight? What you weigh

1074
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 3: right now? Like two thirty?

1075
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: I am you got a string hanging from his shirt.

1076
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 5: Arm ain't from his shirt.

1077
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: We do sixty, we do six, we do sixty eight,

1078
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: sixty eight. He can't get died. I mean he won

1079
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: eighty five. He might can only he might can only

1080
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: do seven five? Can you come to what can you

1081
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: do it? Can you meet him in the middle way?

1082
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 8: He can make a six eight with a knocking like that.

1083
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: No, he ain't make it do sixty, wouldn't make that

1084
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: seventy five he might do. He ate hero about eighty

1085
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: eight now, so he might can come to seventy five.

1086
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 5: He ain't get He ain't going.

1087
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 8: To two thirty or two of five.

1088
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 3: I'm a focus on andre Ward, focused on war.

1089
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 5: You won't even make it to me, brother.

1090
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: So if you have to handicap this fight, it goes

1091
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: to distance, somebody ending it. We I mean, so we

1092
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: go into the scorecards. How does this thing play out?

1093
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 3: Man, he got out boxing.

1094
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 8: He's gonna have to be all the way in, be

1095
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 8: all the way out, be smart, uh not not exchanging

1096
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 8: the mid range too much. And it's hard to say,

1097
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 8: you know, for me, like I always give the boring

1098
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 8: anster or we're just gonna have to see. But when

1099
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 8: you have two great fighters in there, you can guess

1100
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 8: what you think might happen. But that's really all it

1101
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 8: is at the end of the day. You know what

1102
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 8: I'm saying. It's Terrence had to fight like that before

1103
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 8: with somebody. No one could guess that things were going

1104
00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 8: to go down like that, right you med him and Spence,

1105
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you can guess, but

1106
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 8: you know, broken clocks right twice a day, right, So

1107
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 8: I think it's best that we just let the fighters

1108
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 8: get in there and show us what, you know, what

1109
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 8: it is.

1110
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: And like the question that everybody asks, can he take

1111
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: his power? Once he feels his power, will he retreat?

1112
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: Canelo?

1113
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: I mean, when the last time Canelo stopped somebody and

1114
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 1: people aren't like we can Cannelo stop somebody. But normally

1115
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: Canelo is fighting people at sixty eight, he's fighting people,

1116
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 1: you know, sixty eight or above when he fought Bobol.

1117
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: But now he's fighting a much smaller man, and he

1118
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: feels that he can sit down even more on those punches,

1119
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: and does he try like I can really really make

1120
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: a name for myself if I get budded up out

1121
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: of here.

1122
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, and there's a chance of that happening. And I

1123
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 8: think that's why I say about everyone's in trigue now

1124
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 8: isn't gonna happen?

1125
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 5: We don't know.

1126
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: Now.

1127
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 8: Another thing is, you know, Cano's got a great chance.

1128
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 8: He's been hurt by Miguel KLA's brother like fifteen years ago,

1129
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 8: but he hasn't been rocked much since then. I've got

1130
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 8: to say the Canelo can't clip. I mean, you can't

1131
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 8: clip Canelo. He can. But we also have to remember,

1132
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 8: even though Canelo is a harder puncher, it's not in boxing,

1133
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 8: it's not about who's the harder puncher. It's about who

1134
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 8: lands the harder punch.

1135
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 3: Right and timing. Yeah, you know what I mean.

1136
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: He has some battles with the lufkinluckily hit him with

1137
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: some how he didn't go down from some of those

1138
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: shots that Triple g Any with.

1139
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: I still don't know.

1140
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 8: And you know, even like Brolin is saying he hits

1141
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 8: harder than Canelo, but when they fought, he didn't land

1142
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 8: the harder punch, right, you know what I mean? And

1143
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 8: landing the harder punch takes time and distance, rhythm IQ right,

1144
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 8: you know, traps set up.

1145
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: So just because you hit somebody into something moving in

1146
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: the direction and you catch him clean, it's a shot that.

1147
00:50:54,920 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 8: Anthony Dareil hits harder than me, right right, Yeah.

1148
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 7: So.

1149
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: I ain't a player, ladies and gentlemen. He'd said, hey,

1150
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to watch this fight to find out

1151
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: who wins. But he'd say he can take O Joe

1152
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: easy commedias. Two many rounds, ten too many rounds, five

1153
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: too many rounds.

1154
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: Were good to see you back, yes, sir.

1155
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 8: All right, yes, two thirty my eyes at home.

1156
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: You donna feel it, no.

1157
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 3: Right, but you get round.

1158
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: What's you about seventy five?

1159
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 3: When he closing on one ninety.

1160
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 2: He wasn't ninety five, And I'm two o five, come

1161
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 2: on less you like you ready?

1162
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 5: You ready?

1163
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: Holy, I'm ashamed like you're ready to be like you forty.

1164
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 3: Kay, pick up the market in the mornings. I could go.

1165
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 8: No, we got a run club in La I do, okay,

1166
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 8: next weekend. We got one at the end of October

1167
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 8: here in Las Vegas, in a couple of days before

1168
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 8: complex come. How many miles it's five k three point one.

1169
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 3: That's good at our own place.

1170
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 8: It's for the community.

1171
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 2: Brother. I like that.

1172
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll come, all right.

1173
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 3: I come. Oh, I'm so glad you're here. You have

1174
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 3: a revenge revenge toward leather jacket the best.

1175
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, you like that?

1176
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 3: Huh? I text you I want to wear into the fight.

1177
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 5: Revenge store, baby, plug it in.

1178
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 3: What is revenge store. I'm gonna get you, right, I'm serious.

1179
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 3: I want to wear it to the fight. If I can,

1180
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 3: I'll buy.

1181
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 8: I'll pay for it, okay, all right. Actually I only

1182
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 8: got one. The rest of them are are not in

1183
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 8: the city.

1184
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I'll wait till Saturday.

1185
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 8: They don't get here in time, but I'll have you

1186
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 8: one before the end of the year.

1187
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: All right, I got you.

1188
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, o me. Appreciate you, Broy.

1189
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 3: I'm paying. I'm paying, okay, thank you, appreciate appreciate it for.

1190
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: What tar bab.

1191
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: That was kayleb playing later and gentlemen, oh yo, I

1192
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna make it.

1193
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 3: Tarboro you see him?

1194
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he had that table over there to dregue.

1195
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: Kayla Plann says, Look, he needs to be all the

1196
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 2: way out or all the way in.

1197
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: Nothing, mid range, nothing that he can find himself on

1198
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: the end of a punch that Canelo is set down on. Yes,

1199
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: so there's something to be said. Canelo is the bigger man.

1200
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: He's used to fighting at this weight. I think the

1201
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: thing is that fighting twelve three minute rounds at that weight,

1202
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: walking around at one sixty eighty one thing being in

1203
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: a fight where you have to mentally focus in which

1204
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: burns a lot of energy. You've got to move, which

1205
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 1: burns energy. You've got to throw punches, which burns energy. Yeah,

1206
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: those are some of the questions that we're not going

1207
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: to be able to find out. Yeah, yeah, until it happens,

1208
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: like like he was saying, you know, we can speculate, well,

1209
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: I think this or I think that, but at the

1210
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: end of the day, we're not going to know until

1211
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: team round one, round two. Well, hopefully it goes far

1212
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: enough so we can see how this thing plays out.

1213
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 3: And the funny thing too about the fight is Canelo.

1214
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 3: I'm sure he's watched film on Crawford. Crawford has watched

1215
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 3: film on Cannelo. And you can watch as much as

1216
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 3: you want and you get in there to be completely

1217
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 3: different round by round.

1218
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: Well, nothing is ever the same.

1219
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is what Bud told us.

1220
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: He says, I don't I watched take, but I do

1221
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: realize this. That guy's not gonna fight me like he

1222
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: thought for him because those guys he were fighting isn't me.

1223
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: Canelo knows Bud is not gonna fight him like he

1224
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: thought those other guys because those guys aren't him.

1225
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: He's never fought somebody that out that.

1226
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: Okay, when they go into the ring on Saturday night,

1227
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: Canelo might be one nightey, Yeah, walks around at one.

1228
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 3: That's possible. That's possible. But a fighter style doesn't change.

1229
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 3: You know, you have a different opponent in front of you.

1230
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 3: Tennessee's movement, Yes, all that stuff still stayed the same.

1231
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 3: Whatever skill set you have, it doesn't miraculous he changed

1232
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 3: opponent to opponent.

1233
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: No, that doesn't.

1234
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 1: But how I'm gonna fights and you do know styles

1235
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: make fights. Yes, I mean you you look you fighting

1236
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: the guy that's big. Now, all of a sudden, you're

1237
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: going up against a dB and he don't got feet.

1238
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: Well, you know you're gonna roll him up all day long.

1239
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: You understand you got a little dB out there that's

1240
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy pounds. Like, man, I feel the due.

1241
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: I would do whatever I want to do with you.

1242
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: I might get physical with you, I might do whatever

1243
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: because I can't.

1244
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 5: I can't. You can't do anything up about it.

1245
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: Yes, but a guy that's big and rangey and physical,

1246
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: you're doing everything you can not to let him put

1247
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: his hands on you, because that's the one thing that

1248
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: vantaged that.

1249
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: He has if he touches you.

1250
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: Now, you're not like Julio Julio Brandon Marshall, KYO. They

1251
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: wanted the guy because they wanted to They wanted to

1252
00:55:58,719 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: do this.

1253
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you.

1254
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: I'm trying to I'm dancing.

1255
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: You're not putting your hands on there. But it's gonna

1256
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: be a very intriguing fight. It's gonna be a very

1257
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: very interesting fight, and I'm anxious to see how this

1258
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: thing plays out. The one thing I do know Buddy's

1259
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: gonna be budd.

1260
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 2: It's in shape. Bud is Bud Bud.

1261
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: And I'm asked to see He's like, Look, I've been

1262
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: fighting all my life. I've been hit before. And that's

1263
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: the whole point of it. The likelihood if you going

1264
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: into a fight and not get hit. Only Roy Jones

1265
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: has only been in a fight one time. That's on

1266
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: copy Box era. That's ever had a fight and didn't

1267
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: get hit. Yeah, but the likelihood of you're getting involved

1268
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: in a fight, And that's the thing that makes fighting

1269
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: so interesting because anything can happen. Anything you get clipped,

1270
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: it changes, it changes the whole trajectory of that fight.

1271
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 3: Everybody has a puncher's chance.

1272
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and everybody everybody has an idea or plan

1273
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: of how things are going to play out.

1274
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 2: But this is gonna blat like this.

1275
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: But then what happens if early on it's not going

1276
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: your way way? Can you still relax and adjusts? So

1277
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna be interested. It's gonna be interested to see. Uh,

1278
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: we're waiting on Tarboro. He's he's finishing up over there.

1279
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: He's gonna join us here shortly. Uh, it's gonna be

1280
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: it because here's a guy that that faught it. Tarboro

1281
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: fought at six. I think Tarboro broke in his sixty

1282
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: eight ended up going to light. Wasn't the light heavy.

1283
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be very interesting to see how this

1284
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: thing plays, how it shapes up.

1285
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 2: But the buzz, you're starting to feel.

1286
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: The electricity of of of of a fight of this magnitude.

1287
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if you came to the

1288
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: Spence Crawford fighting, you come to I didn't.

1289
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 2: I came to the Spence Crawford.

1290
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 3: I saw that it was crazy.

1291
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but people had wanted that.

1292
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: People people had wanted to see, uh because you know, hey,

1293
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: forty seven Spence, what's what's great at.

1294
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 2: Forty seven Bud?

1295
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: So we got two great fighters going locking horn. That's

1296
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: what we that's what we want to see. I love

1297
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: what Kayler Plant said is that sometimes greatness is not

1298
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: about a zero.

1299
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 2: It's about putting.

1300
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: It's about legacy, it's about fighting the best to prove

1301
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: because you don't know, you won't.

1302
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 3: Know until you get in there, until you get in.

1303
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 3: But again, his mentality is a little different. He's taking

1304
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 3: those chances. He stepped in with a ben bedas he

1305
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 3: stepped in with a Canelo. Yes, other fighters at one

1306
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 3: sixty eight, one fifty four or whatever it may be.

1307
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 3: They don't want to fight great on Great, They just don't.

1308
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: But and then they look at it, man, look at

1309
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: I ain't lost, bro, But you ain't really follow nobody.

1310
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we don't. We don't.

1311
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: We don't hold it against Ali, we don't hold it

1312
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: against Formula, we don't hold it against Sugar Ray, Tommy Hearns,

1313
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: Marvin Hagler, Robert of the Ran. We don't sweep peep

1314
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: with a curty. We don't hold that against You have

1315
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: to understand their error of boxing is different. That's like

1316
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: we talk about football. All is different Back in the

1317
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,959
Speaker 1: days when those guys you just get to a fight.

1318
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: The mindset is different.

1319
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 3: This era completely different area. Boxing.

1320
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: Money with that level of money is to become involved.

1321
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: That's why you don't see guys playing the preseason. That's

1322
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: why they change the training camp rule show money. So

1323
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: much money has become involved. Now you're like, I'm not

1324
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: taking any unnecessary risk with my players. And so it's

1325
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: going to be very interesting to see hold on. Oh

1326
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: he was taking the put it's uh, oh he get

1327
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: ready to go to five twenty. But I'm I'm I'm

1328
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm geeked. I'm geeked. I'm plumped for this fight. I

1329
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: wish more guys. I would like to see Shakur until

1330
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: Femal Lopez listen. I would like to see Shakur and

1331
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: Tank Okay, Yeah, and.

1332
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 3: What I don't want to do though, as much as

1333
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 3: I want to see the great fights, I don't want

1334
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 3: the great fights to happen too soon because if the

1335
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 3: great fights happen too soon, then it's nothing to look

1336
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 3: forward to. I want to see drawn in It, Drawn

1337
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 3: Boots and It and Virtual Lortise. At some point, I

1338
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 3: think a fight in that magnitude is going to happen.

1339
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 3: That's box office stuff, and they have no problem with

1340
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 3: fighters continue to build their resume, so people want to

1341
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 3: see those big fights.

1342
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: These guys in they prime what we're waiting for.

1343
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 3: I mean, if tankings your cur fight right now, then

1344
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 3: what's next after the fight's over?

1345
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: Hey? Hey, who else is in that division?

1346
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 3: I mean that that's that that's gonna have that kind

1347
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 3: of draw, like that's the cream of the crop when

1348
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 3: it comes to draw.

1349
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: Think about when you think about when Sugar Ray fought

1350
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: with Tommy Hearns in eighty one.

1351
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 3: It's eighty one. We had twenty twenty five.

1352
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying they fought early, and they fought, and they

1353
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: kept fighting.

1354
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: They folled come the right Marvin Hadler, so one, two and.

1355
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 3: Three, yes, okay, okay, But also you have to understand

1356
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 3: the timing and when they fight to where you can

1357
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 3: maximize your purse too. Yes, So it's a chess it's

1358
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 3: a chess match.

1359
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: I think that's what that's what that's what guys are doing.

1360
01:00:55,480 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: They're maximizing the places. Yes, uh uh. The taking they're not.

1361
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: Guys are unwilling to take a risk. Yeah, yeah, they're

1362
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: unwilling to take a risk. And if you're not willing

1363
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: to take a risk, it's it's I don't.

1364
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: Know why you. I don't know why you got in

1365
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 2: the sport.

1366
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 3: Then, because I need that zero. I need to feed

1367
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 3: my family. I need to feed my family. I need

1368
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 3: to take care of myself. I'm gonna take care of

1369
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 3: my wife, my kids. I can't have a zero because

1370
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 3: if I have a zero, I mean, if I have

1371
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 3: an l one loss of two losses, then I can't

1372
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 3: command the kind of money I want to I won't

1373
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 3: be the A side. I won't be able to pick

1374
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 3: and choose who I want to fight when I want

1375
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 3: to fight. All that changes once you lose. Unless you

1376
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,479
Speaker 3: are a draw, there are certain people win or lost

1377
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 3: your draw. Yes, so people just want to see you fight.

1378
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 2: That's like Tyson.

1379
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, even after he got beat by Buff Douglas, people

1380
01:01:55,120 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: still was playing. He was still getting Yes, yeah when

1381
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: he lost, when he lost the Holy Field the first time,

1382
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: guess what, Even after he lost the Holy Field and

1383
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: he got suspended, they still paid big time money to

1384
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: see him by Land Lewis.

1385
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. You know where else is the draw like that?

1386
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 3: Adrian Brono.

1387
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 2: When Brono was losing, Yeah, he.

1388
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 3: Was still a drawer. He goes, he put eight. He

1389
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 3: gonna put butts in the seat whether you like him

1390
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 3: or not. Chat chat whether you like him or not.

1391
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 3: Adrian Browner will put butts in the seats. Yeah, it's

1392
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 3: exciting for one. He gonna leads you with the talk.

1393
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you never know what's.

1394
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 3: Gonna happen because it's unpredictable. Yes, so I mean it

1395
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 3: is what it is. I hope my young girl gets

1396
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 3: itself together man and get back in the rings.

1397
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: Oh well, that's where they got emped over there. I

1398
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: thought that was I thought that was a somebody's getting

1399
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: ample to throwing some bows. But uh so today is

1400
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: what today?

1401
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 2: Thursday? Yeah, so we too.

1402
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: You know, forty eight fifty it's been sixty hours, sixty

1403
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: hours from the fight. So it's it's interesting. Basically, it's

1404
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: like the Super Bowl. It's like all the work.

1405
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,919
Speaker 2: All the training camp, all that's all that's done.

1406
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: Now now look, hey, get off your feed.

1407
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 2: Like you know, you're relaxing.

1408
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: You're like you're monitoring your wait, you're monitoring your calms

1409
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: that you're putting in.

1410
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 2: The way.

1411
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be what the way is gonna be Friday?

1412
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 5: You're going to the weigh in.

1413
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 2: Uh the way it's gonna be here, aren't there? Is

1414
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 2: it here? I don't know.

1415
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be an allegiance. It might

1416
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: be an allegiance.

1417
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 3: Because it's too many. It's too many people come to

1418
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 3: the way and for it to be at Yeah.

1419
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: True, it'll probably be an allegiance. It'll probably be an

1420
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: allegiant stadium it's gone.

1421
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 3: I know that that's probably such a tedious process too.

1422
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 3: Once you come out of camp like a week maybe

1423
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 3: a week before the fight, and you're toning every ding

1424
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 3: down and your relaxing. Yes, that got to be tedious.

1425
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:06,439
Speaker 3: You gotta watch what you eat.

1426
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 5: You know you can't.

1427
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 2: You know you're drinking how much water?

1428
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: You're interesting because they probably load up probably like and

1429
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it just they gradually take

1430
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: it down. Yeah, and that's why you know they're not

1431
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: doing a whole lot of talking. Yeah, they're just now.

1432
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 2: You're just it's that mental focus of getting ready.

1433
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: You know, you're trying to play this thing out in

1434
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: your head of what's going to actually happen.

1435
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 2: You know the traffic, it's possible.

1436
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: Spring here, I know where, I know where he's trying

1437
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: to lead me. And that's the thing I mean, because

1438
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: you constantly you can't have one slip up, one slip up,

1439
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: and it turns the.

1440
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: Life up the build. You got to you got to

1441
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 2: be on your.

1442
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: P's and q's for basically, you got to be shocked

1443
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: the whole and the thing you're thinking one thing and.

1444
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 2: He might be trying to walk you into the draft.

1445
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 3: And you know what the funny thing is too, what

1446
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 3: I love about boxing if you pay attention and you

1447
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 3: understand what fighters are doing when you're watching is you

1448
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 3: can set a trap in the first round and really

1449
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 3: won't try to execute it to round four. Yep, I mean,

1450
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 3: I love I love it. Canelo has some tricks that

1451
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 3: he that he's a savvy veteran. He has some tricks

1452
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 3: that he does. I'm hoping Bud doesn't fall fall for it.

1453
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 3: Always stay up in the high guard because the first

1454
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 3: thing people do is when some of the stuff that

1455
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 3: Canelo does, he had thought that he had thrown it

1456
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 3: out there m hm soon because the first thing you

1457
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,919
Speaker 3: do is you flinched the oppositway in which that goes.

1458
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 3: Little stuff like.

1459
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: That, That's the thing they're gonna be trying to faint. Yeah,

1460
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: Budd is an outstanding boxer. Yeah, Bud has power. And

1461
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: when Bud gets you in trouble.

1462
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh eat old.

1463
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 3: He see blood in the water.

1464
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 2: And we saw that. We saw that with Spence. Bud.

1465
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: Spence is a is a smaller man. Can he get

1466
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: Canelo in trouble? And if he gets Canelo in trouble,

1467
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: can't he pull the plug and turned the power out.

1468
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 3: A trip. I'm thinking about some of the bigger fighters

1469
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 3: triple G, triple G, triple G hit him with some shots.

1470
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 2: I still don't know. It was like rock up soccer

1471
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 2: robot man.

1472
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 1: I thought, even yeah, pop his head.

1473
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like hold on, but all hit him

1474
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 3: with some shots when he went up to one seventy

1475
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,919
Speaker 3: five and he didn't go down. It didn't go down.

1476
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 3: And he's a much more powerful man, a much bigger man.

1477
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. They can't put power. They can't

1478
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: put shots together.

1479
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 3: Like no, no, no, no no.

1480
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 2: So that's the thing. In the process of hitting him.

1481
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: Now, maybe then he doesn't pack, Maybe Budd doesn't pack

1482
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: the punch right.

1483
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 2: But instead of one shot, what if he lands three or.

1484
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 3: Four cars But then also you think about someone laying

1485
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 3: three or four shots on Carnelo, whose defense is elite,

1486
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 3: whose head move is elite, even though he's not swift

1487
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 3: with his footwork, but he's great defensively, very great.

1488
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 2: So it's it's gonna be interested.

1489
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you hadn't seen a whole lot of people

1490
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: putting three four shots together on Panelo. Yeah, because if

1491
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: you go back and look at Floyd when Floyd was

1492
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: catching in Floyda with one two one, Floyd is like

1493
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: one two hours, because the thing is, you know, if

1494
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: you if you.

1495
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,439
Speaker 2: Hang too long, you're gonna get bit. Yeah.

1496
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, so hey, let me throw this one two move

1497
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: out of harm's way. Yeah, I'm I'm, I'm I'm excited.

1498
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: I think everybody's excited to see this. There's been a

1499
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: while since we've had something of this magnitude.

1500
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: And then guess what, and we're back to Night.

1501
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, we we you know, we got Night Captain Knight.

1502
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 3: We got yeah, we got command Commanders Packers. That's gonna

1503
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 3: be a really good game. That's gonna be really a

1504
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 3: really good, really good game.

1505
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 2: Do we have.

1506
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: Any but if you and plus o.

1507
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 2: Joe the question that I have. Bud really hadn't fought.

1508
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 1: But like Bud flought, he fought Spence in July of

1509
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: twenty three.

1510
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he fought this other fighter. So he's only fought

1511
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:15,919
Speaker 2: twice in two years. Yep.

1512
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 3: But I think for someone like Bud, a fight a

1513
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 3: year is good, A fighter year is good, I would

1514
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 3: I would think, depending on us, unless you're trying to stay,

1515
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 3: unless you're trying to do tune ups, continuously tune ups

1516
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 3: until you get a big fight, right, not that much damage?

1517
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: No, not butd not at this point. Now, Bud is

1518
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: beyond tune ups. Yeah, but Bud the when Bud fight,

1519
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: it has to be it has to mean something.

1520
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 3: It makes sense.

1521
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: It needs to be a huge payday. There needs to

1522
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: be a title attached to it. And he's looking at it.

1523
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking at guys. He's looking at guys forty seven. Yeah,

1524
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: who am I gonna fight in forty seven? I'm not

1525
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 1: going down to forty because you know, tank and Chakour

1526
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 1: and boots and roads come on, man, Yeah, and they're

1527
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: not coming up going forty seven to see me. And

1528
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know if Bud wants to be at

1529
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: one forty seven. He might want to step the fifty four,

1530
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 1: but ain't no money.

1531
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 5: Who was at fifty four? Good money? We're fifty four?

1532
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 3: Well, ain't no money. There's some fighters that one be before,

1533
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 3: but that's the purse. But here's the thing. Who is

1534
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 3: he gonna fight? Because he just ain't gonna just fight

1535
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 3: some what's up baby, Antonio Tarborough, I'm gonna beat him.

1536
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonnat I'm gonna beat his ass too.

1537
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 4: I'm looking at for e tradition.

1538
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 7: Bro.

1539
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:43,799
Speaker 4: I think we're good, Yo, You're good oh Joe, right now, yeah, hey.

1540
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 1: Right now, ten Tony rounds three minutes three three yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no,

1541
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 1: no no, listen.

1542
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 3: He done showed me too much.

1543
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 5: I used to train talk training.

1544
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I trained with everybody good to Yeah.

1545
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 2: He agregiate you. That's how now that I know, I'm

1546
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 2: more with you.

1547
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:03,600
Speaker 3: Okay, you see right?

1548
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 4: Yo, man, I appreciate you all.

1549
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 2: You appreciate you.

1550
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 4: What's up, aby, man, I'm just doing them back. You

1551
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 4: feel me on that desk. I'm excited, bro. Two of

1552
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 4: the best fighters in the game today, but none Yes,

1553
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,600
Speaker 4: undispelled it pound for pound, this is it. Yes, you

1554
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 4: feel me, man, I'm expecting to unexpected. Really, I'm expecting

1555
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 4: to unexpected. I'm expecting to unexpected.

1556
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 3: Talk talk me through how you expect unexpected? Because we

1557
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 3: know what Canelo can do. Buddy's coming up to weight classes.

1558
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:33,759
Speaker 3: They have weight classes for a reason.

1559
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 2: You know.

1560
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 3: I understand the game based on what you told me,

1561
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 3: the work you put in the past few years, so

1562
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,719
Speaker 3: I got a better understanding of it. Why they're weight classes?

1563
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 3: Why do you expect unexpected.

1564
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 4: Skills, technique all that? I think it trumps the weight

1565
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 4: I have a question. I think it trumps the weight.

1566
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 3: We've seen Canelo get out class in a boxing clinic

1567
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 3: offensively and defensively when he fort Floyd Mayweather. Yes, yes,

1568
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 3: that's a different kind of skill. I haven't seen any

1569
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 3: skill like that. The closest thing I've seen to that,

1570
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 3: no disrespect to Bud, is the course Stevenson. Right, Okay,

1571
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 3: do you think Bud has a type of skill set

1572
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 3: to be able to get in there with someone at

1573
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 3: one sixty eight and be able to pull off something

1574
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 3: similar to what Mayweather did to Canelo, even though their

1575
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 3: style of fighting it's different.

1576
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1577
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the two fisted monster.

1578
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 7: Bro.

1579
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 2: That's the thing. You don't know if he's south of orthodox.

1580
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: He hit, he knocking you out with right Yes, he's

1581
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: a natural foul paw, but he got power.

1582
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 5: In the hands. And that's so unique.

1583
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 7: Bro.

1584
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 4: I was a hell of a south Park yes, but

1585
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 4: everybody knew it was in my left hand. Can you

1586
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 4: imagine if I had him worrying about the right too.

1587
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 4: So I think that is something that Canelo hasn't experienced before.

1588
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 4: You know, and and and Terrence can punch. Now, he

1589
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 4: he's not he don't weigh as much as Canelo, but

1590
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 4: the way he looked, could he possibly be stronger than

1591
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 4: Canelo because we know he cocked strongly anyway.

1592
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway he wrestling with you, he didn't feel me.

1593
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1594
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 4: So once you feel that innated strength, bro, you know

1595
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 4: it's something different. It's something different.

1596
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 3: But then also you think about what Canelo has been through.

1597
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 3: You think of some of the wars Candelo has been

1598
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 3: through his.

1599
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 4: Full career since fourteen fifteen years old professional.

1600
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 3: Right, But then you think about the principower that Bud

1601
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 3: might possess. Can't even hurt Canelo based on what we've

1602
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 3: seen when he fought Triple G, based on what we've

1603
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 3: seen when he put Babal, who pieced him up over

1604
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 3: and over and over. Even with his his slickness that

1605
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 3: he wants with the deep, he was still getting hit

1606
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 3: hidden flush. And we've never seen Canelo get defeated like that.

1607
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 3: It seemed like he was out matched trying to go

1608
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 3: up a class. So do you really think Bud has

1609
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 3: the power to really affect some of that size who's

1610
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 3: been through some wars already, were Triple G and Baval.

1611
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 4: If he can't hurt Canelo, it's gonna be hard to

1612
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 4: beat him, it's gonna be hard to beat him if

1613
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 4: he can't, if he can't get his respect. Okay, you

1614
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 4: gotta get this man respecting the first three rounds like

1615
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 4: it's gonna.

1616
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 3: Be nightmares anyway coming forward.

1617
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 4: You gotta give him something to think about, Shannon, because

1618
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 4: if you don't, you ain't gonna be able to stop him.

1619
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 2: You feel me?

1620
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 4: Now, If Canelo is having success to the body early,

1621
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 4: that spells trouble for Crawford because that body don't work.

1622
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 4: You hit him early in the first round, you're gonna

1623
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 4: start feeling.

1624
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 2: That round three and four.

1625
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 5: You heard.

1626
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 4: But when you start feeling it, bro, you can be

1627
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 4: in the best shape. But them body shots are take

1628
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 4: your conditioning away from you. But see now, you gotta

1629
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,879
Speaker 4: be disciplined to do that. And I think if Canelo

1630
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 4: is having success to the body, that favous Canelo. If

1631
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 4: Crawford is making him miss and making him pay that famous.

1632
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: Crawford right now, now we got to see what hot

1633
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: is gonna.

1634
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 3: Play, Yes, sir, But that being said, basically, the formula

1635
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,440
Speaker 3: the Bud winning this fight is basically.

1636
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 4: Just out boxing Pillow, Matter doing the bull, then go

1637
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 4: Matter doing the bull all day?

1638
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 2: Heard me? Yea, Cale says, Look, he can fight two styles.

1639
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 1: He can be all the way in or he can

1640
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 1: be all the way out away.

1641
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 2: From the mid range.

1642
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: Because the mid range you don't want to be on

1643
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 1: the end of one of those punches where he sat down.

1644
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: Canelo sits down on his punches because he's trying to

1645
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: get you up out of there. Bud, I don't know

1646
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: if he's fought somebody that can put punches together like

1647
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 1: Bud can that's why than Mayweather.

1648
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 2: Right, that's been that's been a while. But Bud can

1649
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 2: put punches together, and Bud got power.

1650
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 5: He got power.

1651
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 1: We don't know if he has power to knock somebody

1652
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: that's one sixty eight that's not your one sixty eight.

1653
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: I believe what Canello probably walks around at one ninety

1654
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: five two hundred. He strips it down to one sixty eight,

1655
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 1: but he's a walk around man at one ninety five

1656
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 1: two hundred. Wow, here's another thing. Budd is a big

1657
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: Bud stripped down to one forty seven bullet back then,

1658
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: we could call him a weight bullet now because we

1659
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: know he was killing himself to make wait, yes, look

1660
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: at his legs now, yeah, you feel me? I think

1661
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: he might be in this more comfortable weight. Why you too,

1662
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: what I told people when I see Floyd, They said,

1663
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 1: man Floyd, I said, Florida is a naturally small man.

1664
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: Floyd losing five pounds to make he begin with, didn't

1665
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 1: make waited two days because Floyd trained your round and

1666
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 1: he's not a naturally big man, so he didn't allow

1667
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 1: himself to pluck you away to go from one forty

1668
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: seven and then two days later. He once said the

1669
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 1: five Floyd was a naturally small man, so he never

1670
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: had to kill himself to make weight. Now I agree

1671
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: with you. I don't believe Bud is having to kill

1672
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: himself to make eight. He's coming down from one ninety

1673
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 1: to go to one sixty eight. It's a whole different

1674
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 1: thing from one ninety to one forty. Yeah, yeah, Caleb, Caleb,

1675
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 1: Like I said, Caleb said, stay on the ouse, stay.

1676
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 3: Either all the way in the pocket, smether the punch. Yes,

1677
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 3: nothing range.

1678
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 1: If you if you were in Crawford corner after the

1679
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 1: first round, you see how this thing, because it's gonna

1680
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 1: be interest because they can have an idea of how

1681
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 1: it's gonna play out, but you won't know obviously, you

1682
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 1: want to feel each other out. But after that first

1683
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: round you have a pretty good indication of how this

1684
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 1: thing's gonna go right. What what would you tell if

1685
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 1: you could tell, if you and Bud corner, what would

1686
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: you tell him?

1687
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 4: It's important that we're gonna have to make Canelo miss.

1688
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 4: I'm coming on my defense. I ain't running, but I'm

1689
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 4: using my defense making him miss and making him pay

1690
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 4: if I can. But it's important that he don't get greeted. Yes,

1691
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 4: get yours and.

1692
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,560
Speaker 3: Get on out of there.

1693
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 4: You can't stay too long because this boy.

1694
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 3: Got popped off the rope.

1695
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 4: They gotta stay off the rope. Then see him on

1696
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 4: the ropes at all. Now, Canelo do a lot of

1697
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 4: good work in the center of the ring. Everybody think

1698
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 4: he's just some pressure fighting me, But look at how

1699
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 4: he set that upper cup up against mong give and

1700
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 4: then he knocked Berlanga down with that left hook. Get

1701
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,719
Speaker 4: you quick, bro, and so you can't let him line

1702
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 4: you up with one shot. That's one thing Crawford ain't

1703
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,719
Speaker 4: gonna be able to do. He gotta see everything coming

1704
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 4: and anticipate everything. Don't get set with one of them

1705
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 4: traps that much.

1706
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 2: He's sitting down.

1707
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 1: And the thing is that when you watch I've watched

1708
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: great defensive fighters, and Crawford got good defensive I'm not

1709
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 1: saying these sweet people with not saying the Floyd Maywhite,

1710
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:24,839
Speaker 1: but guys would throw a punch and Florida is already

1711
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 1: moving and he's already doing this because you know he

1712
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: gonna he's coming back with it, coming back out here

1713
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: on the back. That's what Buzz's gonna have to do.

1714
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: But Canelo don't really piece together. He's not three four

1715
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: five punch guy. He's sitting down on what he's trying.

1716
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 9: To It's a hard one or two trying. He's trying

1717
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 9: to break everything everything. The question is is that tar

1718
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 9: walking around at a way that's one thing. Being mentally

1719
01:17:56,000 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 9: shocked takes conditioning. Moving takes condition Throwing punches take conditioning.

1720
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 9: The question is is budd gonna be able to sustain

1721
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 9: that for twelve rounds if necessary?

1722
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 4: He can if he's not getting touched to the body early,

1723
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 4: you feel me, you're gonna have to protect itself from

1724
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,879
Speaker 4: the body shots, bro, because that's gonna take your conditioning, ma'am.

1725
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 4: If you can't move, it's problems.

1726
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's problems.

1727
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,719
Speaker 4: So if you see Canelo going successfully to the body early,

1728
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 4: that spells trouble for Crawford.

1729
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 1: So you said he can't be on the rope, he

1730
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 1: can't be in the center of rings.

1731
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 3: So he basically, I mean his advantage is in the

1732
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 3: center of the ring.

1733
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 4: He gotta give him angles. But yes, but yeah, don't run,

1734
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 4: but give him angles, make him miss and make him

1735
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 4: turn into you. That's what that's the matter during the book, turn.

1736
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 1: Into something there go because we thought this man, we

1737
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 1: thought this with Charlo, and then Charlo felt that power.

1738
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's still gotta happen. He's still gonna have

1739
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 4: to feel that power. Yeah, and accept the fact, Hey,

1740
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to go through this. Yes, but if

1741
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 4: that changed your game plan advantage Canelo.

1742
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 2: But when you were the little kid, your mom your

1743
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 2: grandma told.

1744
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 1: You that was hot, you didn't believe it.

1745
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 2: You Okay, I learned now you said he filled that

1746
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 2: power one time. He still got to believed that ain't hot.

1747
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 1: That's just my thig with of my imagination because if

1748
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 1: Canelo makes him make and Buzz's not wired like that, but.

1749
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 4: He'll I tell you, he ain't gonna show nothing.

1750
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 2: That Bud he'll have to knock Bud out because Bud will.

1751
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 4: Some guys you can make that quick, and some guys

1752
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 4: you gotta knock out Budd. One of them guys you.

1753
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: Gotta knock out and then want to turn it down

1754
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: required like that.

1755
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 3: The funny thing about it, when I think about the

1756
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 3: fight as well, Bud has to stay active. There are

1757
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 3: rounds that Canelo takes off, like half seven. He takes

1758
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 3: off relaxing. Those rounds need to be active and understanding.

1759
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:54,799
Speaker 3: He does it with everybody, no matter who he's fighting.

1760
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:57,560
Speaker 3: And then you have to be willing to take a

1761
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 3: punch to get one.

1762
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 5: You got to you got gambling.

1763
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 3: You gotta pick a change. You gotta picking pick and

1764
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 3: choose win.

1765
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 2: Am I trying to.

1766
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:06,759
Speaker 4: Take though, that's the chance.

1767
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna.

1768
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: Tak I ain't taking nothing that.

1769
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 2: HANDI you think Crawford got a chance.

1770
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 4: I think he got a big chance to win a decision. Now,

1771
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 4: if he can hurt Canelo, that's that puts the knockout

1772
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 4: in the fact. Yeah, you know what I mean.

1773
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 1: I want to get you out of here on this one.

1774
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 1: When are we gonna start seeing these these these fights again?

1775
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: Because Roy didn't have to give you another back. Then

1776
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 1: the O was unimportant. It seems to be now the

1777
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 1: O is of the utmost importance. I don't want to

1778
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: fight somebody because if I fight somebody with O and

1779
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 1: he I gotta O and he got a old, that

1780
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 1: means somebody gonna leave the ring where they're not gonna

1781
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: have their OH. And people are trying greatness, too much

1782
01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 1: greatness to OH. Everybody think they're gonna be Floyd, but

1783
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:01,679
Speaker 1: I want to share these boxes.

1784
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 2: Now.

1785
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,759
Speaker 1: Even if you retire undefeated, you're not gonna be Floyd Mayweather.

1786
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 4: I agree with that. I think it's just I never

1787
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:13,600
Speaker 4: Bro was trying to protect nothing. I was trying to

1788
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 4: get it improved. That guy I'm him, and the only

1789
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 4: way you can do that is fight those guys ranked

1790
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 4: above you.

1791
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 2: You feel me.

1792
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 4: And if those guys ain't ranked above you, then what

1793
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 4: we're doing. I'm trying to move up up, and the

1794
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 4: only way I can move up is fight somebody that's

1795
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 4: ranked above me.

1796
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 5: We don't got enough of that, though not tall.

1797
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 4: I know, man, something happened in the game where I

1798
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 4: don't know. Bro. It's like it's you say risk over reward,

1799
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 4: but nobody taking no risks.

1800
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 2: Anymore.

1801
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 3: Bro, You know what I like. I like the fact

1802
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 3: that Turkey is now in boxing, and because he's bringing

1803
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 3: such a bigger reward, people are willing to take chance.

1804
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, that's it.

1805
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 2: But here's the thing.

1806
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: If I got an opportunity to fight somebody I know

1807
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 1: I can beat, and I can make fifteen, or I

1808
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: can fight somebody that the fifty to fifty chance to

1809
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 1: make thirty, I wanna make that fifteen because now you

1810
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: look at me. It used to losses didn't matter in

1811
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: box with Sugar Ray, loss, with birds lost, with the loss,

1812
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: with lost form, with sweet beat, it didn't matter.

1813
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, if you lose, he ain't

1814
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 2: no good.

1815
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 5: That's a lie.

1816
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 4: I think. I think Mayweather put that that. Uh he

1817
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 4: raised the ceiling on that, and I think that's what

1818
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 4: everybody will be Mayweather, I know, Bro, And and like

1819
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 4: even Mayweather undefeated though he's never been undisputed, you feel me.

1820
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 4: And if this man can win undisputed for the third time, Bro,

1821
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 4: I'm giving him the goat. Go to the goat, Bro,

1822
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 4: and he beat so Canelo Ala, Bro, gotta take your

1823
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 4: head off to him.

1824
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: Man. Legacy, ladies and gentlemen, man, I appreciate you.

1825
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 4: God, thank you having you.

1826
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 1: Whenever you're ready, whenever you ready, You're just I got you.

1827
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 4: Gonna do the recap, all right, I gotta do the recap.

1828
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 4: I got a man, God bless yourself, stay up.

1829
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 2: Good for you. Rough my guy.

1830
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 5: I