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Speaker 1: What's that. It's spooky, joky, I'm really sure it's dead.

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Speaker 2: It's coming this way.

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I'm ghosted.

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Speaker 1: I gosdas.

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Speaker 2: P Hey boo, It's me Ros and welcome to Ghosted

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Speaker 2: by Ros Hernandez the podcaster. I talk to people that

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Speaker 2: I like about the paranormal. Okay, this episode, who Baby?

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Speaker 2: We got spoiled. Our guests today are Shannon Shaw and

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Speaker 2: Seth Bogart. If you're unfamiliar with them, the two of

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Speaker 2: them are just incredible artists period. You may know them

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Speaker 2: from their bands Hunks and Is Punks Shannon and the Clams.

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Speaker 2: Seth has some great solo music. I mean, they're just

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Speaker 2: the coolest. I've been a fan for a long time

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Speaker 2: and somehow never met them, so we had them on.

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Speaker 2: They had so many ghost stories for those of you

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Speaker 2: that are like, where are the stories? We need guests

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Speaker 2: with stories. I'm always trying and this one hopefully will

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Speaker 2: hold you over for a while because it is good.

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Speaker 2: So before we get into that, I am really dying

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Speaker 2: to go tour. I currently don't have many dates, but

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Speaker 2: I will be because I know I feel like I'm

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Speaker 2: usually like I'm being this place in that place, I

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Speaker 2: don't have any at the moment. I'm kind of like

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Speaker 2: taking a break and like trying to work on other

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Speaker 2: projects right now. But I do have one stand up

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Speaker 2: show that will be happening in La for the next

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Speaker 2: flicks is a joke festival on Sinco da Mayo. So

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Speaker 2: that's like my one big LA show. If you want

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Speaker 2: to go, there's tickets. The link is in my bio

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Speaker 2: and Instagram at Rose Hernandos. So I'd love to see

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Speaker 2: you there. It won't be about ghosts, but it'll be fun. Okay, ghosts,

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Speaker 2: give them to me. Shannon Shaw and Seth Bogart on

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Speaker 2: with the show. Oh my God, Shannon and Seth are here.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Hey, heybabe.

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Speaker 2: Somebody shout out to that person, thank you. You know

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Speaker 2: who you are. I don't know who they were, but

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Speaker 2: somebody somebody like tagged you guys one time, and I

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Speaker 2: was like perfect. Because I have been a fan of

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Speaker 2: both the years for a long time. I always forget

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Speaker 2: to have musicians on here. We have had so we've

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Speaker 2: done this podcast since like twenty eighteen. We've had a

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Speaker 2: Nico Case twice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we love her, love her.

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Speaker 2: It's funny. She's very funny. Patty Shammel is that she

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Speaker 2: does not, but she's funnier than most comedians.

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Speaker 4: Really, you never know who's gonna be funny.

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Speaker 1: And whose medians are really not funny.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 1: Have you had Brontos on? Do you know who that is?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Because he got fed by a ghost?

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Speaker 4: What I want?

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Speaker 5: That?

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Speaker 1: Iren't that too? I was always so jealous.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, yes, I'm I'm gonna need a referral. We're

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Speaker 2: actually both in a new documentary about the character pat

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Speaker 2: from SML Rowans film.

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Speaker 1: Right, yes, yes, I want to see that so bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's good, it's fair. Okay, But you know

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Speaker 2: the other thing you never know with people is if

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Speaker 2: they have ghost stories.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we got them.

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Speaker 2: The list I was sent. I had to take a break.

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Speaker 2: I had to like take a nap, I had adjust

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Speaker 2: my eyes. I was getting tired, go back to the list.

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Speaker 2: The list is long. With the two of you, it's

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Speaker 1: You know what's weird is that we have ghost experiences

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Speaker 4: Three three ghost experiences together.

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Speaker 1: Also, you know it's weird. I had only ghost experiences

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Speaker 1: for like a six year period, never before, never after.

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Speaker 4: Well, you're also in a much better place in your life,

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Speaker 2: That could be a part of that. I don't know. Wait,

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Speaker 2: so where did both of you grow up?

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Speaker 4: I grew up in Napa County, California, on the sticks.

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Speaker 4: What part are you familiar? I'm from like outside of

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Speaker 4: the city of Napa. Do you know where the State

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Speaker 4: Hospital is, a mental institution with the criminally insane? No,

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Speaker 1: Okay, so the Cramps play at Disneyland.

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Speaker 4: What yeah, cool, that's not real.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it was outside disney the house nice.

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Speaker 2: Saint Helena, Yeah, the whole area.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my brother's girlfriends from Saint Helena.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I ever related.

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Speaker 1: I think it's possible.

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Speaker 1: I'm from Tucson, Arizona, which is love hunted place.

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Speaker 2: What's the hotel there? Congress Congress. Let me tell you

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Speaker 2: a story about Club Congress. Okay, called called Hotel Congress

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Speaker 2: Congress club where bands and stuff play called Club Congress.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but my neighbor when I was a kid owned

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Speaker 2: Well, see, I went there to go ghost hunting, and

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Speaker 2: I went with a friend. I've actually talked about this

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Speaker 1: There's probably some good ones.

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Speaker 2: That place. There was like a concert going on and

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Speaker 1: It's so messed up. But then yeah, and I convinced

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Speaker 2: But you know what happened to me. I filmed this

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Speaker 2: It like my camera like shut off on its own,

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Speaker 2: All everything gone for forever. Wow, So nobody will ever

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Speaker 1: What the music video? Once we filmed the whole music

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Speaker 4: Then we had to refilm it like double like we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So did either of you grow up believing

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Speaker 1: Of stuff really wanting to Yeah, yeah I did.

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Speaker 4: We had definitely had some stuff go down at my

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Speaker 4: And I think when you're a kid, you're like constantly

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Speaker 4: So my brothers all had a distinct like run or

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Speaker 1: Yes, so charming to thank.

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Speaker 4: You all of them are, and Dan of my Imediate family.

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Speaker 2: Were you Mormons at this time?

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Speaker 1: Wait. I actually do have a kid ghost story and

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, how did you know that this woman? Because

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Speaker 1: But I think she was old. I assume she's an

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Speaker 2: Basements are terrifying, even if an old lady didn't fall

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Speaker 1: you have to be open to seeing ghosts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know because it doesn't make any sense

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Speaker 2: You opened a portal within yourself that night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? He was like fully, just slowly walking. This is

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Speaker 4: So mine, I was like sharing the bed with our

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Speaker 4: And we'd had this beautiful little balcony and we kept

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Speaker 2: Were you next door to each other?

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Speaker 2: And then then was there like an Australian gig guy

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Speaker 4: That's solid gold.

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Speaker 4: Excuse me, could you please keep the seunce down?

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Speaker 2: Can either of you to Australian because I apologize to

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Speaker 4: I'm really bad and I want to be good, Like

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Speaker 4: I'll have my series set to an Ausi accent. I

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Speaker 4: I'm not. It's not good.

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Speaker 1: The video store and video stores were still open, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't mean to sound Irish, but I was like,

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Speaker 1: what time are reopened? Till out of.

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Speaker 2: Nowhere I came out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. My boyfriend was like, what the fuck.

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Speaker 2: You're possessed? Wait a second. You did say before we

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Speaker 2: started recording, Shannon, that you one time saw Sylvia Brown. Oh, yes,

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Speaker 2: what is this story?

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Speaker 4: I was driving up Telegraph Avenue in Oakland.

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Speaker 1: It's a little sad.

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Speaker 4: It's toward the end, you know, Okay, and.

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Speaker 2: And Seith, you don't know who Sylvia Brown is five books. Geeha,

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Speaker 2: you know what to do. Sorry to interrupt your strass screen.

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Speaker 2: We do have a screen. This is Sylvia Brown. She

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Speaker 4: Why did you never watch this?

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Speaker 2: I don't know all right? Who is in our house?

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Speaker 4: First of all?

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Speaker 5: George and Hazel Ankering p I c K E R

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Speaker 4: Our house is only ten years old.

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Speaker 2: Money the land?

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, how do you think the land is?

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Speaker 2: That's about enough.

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Speaker 1: She reminds me of Lory Metcalf a little bit.

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Speaker 2: She can play anyone. I love Loriy Mtcalf.

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Speaker 4: I love her. She's so good in Uncle Buck. When

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Speaker 4: she plays the horny neighbors.

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Speaker 1: She's always good as okay, scream too. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So you see Sylvia Brown.

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Speaker 4: In Oakland, like at the corner.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking, you like bought tickets to see her?

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Speaker 2: You literally I just saw her tall.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what she was doing there. Maybe she

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Speaker 4: had like an event. I don't know. She's rip now.

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Speaker 4: She died, but yeah, she died. No, but someone was

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Speaker 4: So just crossing that little alley to whatever you remember

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Speaker 2: Honey the land, Honey, Honey, pushed me. Okay, she did

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Speaker 2: have an entourage, that's amazing, as she shout of, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: When you were in Tucson, did you go to the

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't have time. I was there solely to

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Speaker 1: It's about time, about time, bag wait the Lesson bar

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Speaker 1: and two sound was called the Biz, the Biz. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So there's this antique mall that's famously haunted. It's like

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Speaker 1: Like it's the most haunted feeling I've ever felt in

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Speaker 2: Fifteen dollars. I was like the devil inside it.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen for the jacket, four thousand to get rid of.

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Speaker 4: I thought, I told you the next thing.

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Speaker 1: You didn't tell me because scary tell them what happened.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm sleeping on this air mattress in their

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Speaker 4: Suddenly I see the doorknob turning, and I assume that

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Speaker 4: I told you the next day you did not.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing with like these scenarios and in

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Speaker 1: Just like, Oh, I think you asked me did I

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Speaker 1: But then you didn't tell me because we had just

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Speaker 4: I didn't want to go out. Then then you told

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Speaker 1: Then I heard a man whistling in my kitchen, straight

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Speaker 2: Now, what if this wasn't the jacket? What if this

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Speaker 1: Okay? So then I started seeing these flying blobs in

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Speaker 2: Were you taking any drugs?

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Speaker 1: No? And then I started to I kind of put

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. What's the ethical thing

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Speaker 1: to do? If I donated, it's just gonna go to

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Speaker 4: I swear you told me you donated it, and I

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Speaker 1: No, I threw it away. I did not donated. I

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Speaker 1: I wish, I don't know. It seemed like it was

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00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 1: a hot ghost.

446
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 4: I mean, it was a lily jacket. I thought you

447
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 4: told me that the jacket was in the closet of

448
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 4: the room I was sleeping it was at the time.

449
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: And then the basement. No, and then I moved into

450
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: the basement after I heard the man whistling, and then

451
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: the orbs, and then it stopped completely.

452
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 2: Okay, so it wasn't the house.

453
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: Well, I had never had it.

454
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 4: The house was wonderful.

455
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: I never had. But I think it was the jacket.

456
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: It's a jacket. I thought it was so.

457
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 1: Hot, so hot. I was like, why didn't you molest me?

458
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 2: Leather jackets make everybody like three notes hotter, and so

459
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 2: no matter who it was, dammit, it probably such a

460
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 2: hot biker from like that.

461
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: And he didn't try anything funny.

462
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, because you didn't. You didn't give him a chance.

463
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: You quit. I was scared.

464
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: That's good. I love a haunted object.

465
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 4: Do you want to hear other story that's together?

466
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

467
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 4: Okay Austin. What's the hotel called?

468
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 2: I have not, but I've heard stories on this podcast

469
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 2: from people at that place. Everyone stays there, Huh.

470
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 4: I have a haunted castle for you to visit in

471
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 4: Cleveland that four T.

472
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 2: I'm not, but you will, but I will now go.

473
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 2: Whatever you say, tell you about.

474
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 1: It later, Okay. Soham, it's very dumb.

475
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 4: You're going okay and you're bringing me okay.

476
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: Okay. So we played a really unfortunate like show for

477
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 1: a car company once and and part of it was

478
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: like they're giving us money and flying us to Austin

479
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: and we get three hotel rooms. So it was for Shannon,

480
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: three other girls and me. And I was always like, well,

481
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: I get my own room because I'm the slut.

482
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 4: He's is kidding.

483
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: I always blamed like getting my room because like, I'm

484
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 1: the one who hooks up. So I get my own room.

485
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: And I go into the room and the water turns

486
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: on and then the light and the closet starts flickering,

487
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 1: and I.

488
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 2: Did you know this place was famously Yes, you did.

489
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 4: I did not want if we wanted to stay in

490
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 4: a scary Oh I did.

491
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, maybe I read it was haunted. I don't remember.

492
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 2: You're definitely catching him out a lot of lies today.

493
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: I feel you're not remember.

494
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: I huffed sprayed a lot today as a teenager. My

495
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: memory is a little weird.

496
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 4: He'd be happy, But.

497
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: I, okay, maybe I know it. Maybe I didn't. I

498
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: didn't remember. When I got to my room, I was

499
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 1: creeped out. I like left the room and googled is

500
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: this place haunted? And it says this hotel is famously haunted,

501
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: especially the fourth floor.

502
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 4: Yeah floor.

503
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, the only room that's on

504
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: the fourth floor is my room. Everyone else is on

505
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,719
Speaker 1: a DIF. And then it said once Annie Lennox had

506
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: a concert in Austin and she didn't know what dress

507
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 1: to wear, and she had two hanging up in the closet.

508
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: She took a shower, she gets out, one of the

509
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: dresses was on the bed. The ghost chose.

510
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: Oh that's amazing, cool too.

511
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 4: I love that story.

512
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: So I was just like, WHOA, this place is so haunted.

513
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: So we play the show and I'm like, oh my god,

514
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: like let's do a says in my room after the show,

515
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: and so we all go to my room.

516
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're wasted. We pop on Jersey Shore. This is

517
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 4: like the early days of Jersey.

518
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: Was like twenty twelve probably, Oh my goodness, yeah it was.

519
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: And we're sitting in our room and the door is

520
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: like really heavy metal, like a heavy like you know

521
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: those really thick doors that are really heavy, and you

522
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: know those things on the hotel, the latch that you

523
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: can have extra protection when you're inside. We put it

524
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: in between the door in the frame because they were

525
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: waiting for a bandmate. Okay, yeah, so that we didn't

526
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: have to get up because they were lazy to open

527
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: the door.

528
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: Right.

529
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: So we're sitting in bed watching Jersey Shore and Shannon said,

530
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: you started talking shit, Yeah, it.

531
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 4: Was like this place saint on it.

532
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: And then within five seconds of her saying that.

533
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 4: Door like slowly creaks opened this like Aaron's opening it.

534
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,959
Speaker 4: So we all lean over to the end of the

535
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 4: bed to like say hi to Aerin. There's no one

536
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 4: there in it blam.

537
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: Shut sod and we started screaming and then we're like,

538
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: oh my god, Aaron's Aaron's pulling up on us. So

539
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: I run to the door. I'm like, and I look out,

540
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: No one's in the hallway. And I even went all

541
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: the way to the elevator. I was like, she really

542
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: got us, Like she's in the elevator. She was like,

543
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,959
Speaker 1: not even on the floor.

544
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 4: Oh. And it was a while later when she came

545
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 4: and we all screamed when she knocked.

546
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 2: Did you end up sleeping in that room?

547
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: Hasn't mean my friend sleep with me?

548
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: Oh so, no sludy time.

549
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: No sludy time. I was hoping for a slaty time

550
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: with the ghost. But yeah, I like the ghost was gay.

551
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: If it was fucking picking out Lennox's dread, that's pretty gay.

552
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 4: And it didn't like me being so sassy.

553
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like like seconds after she said display

554
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: saying on it.

555
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 4: That was pretty. And there was five or six of

556
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 4: us in there.

557
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: You know.

558
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 4: It wasn't like, you know, one person miss saw something.

559
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: There were witnesses.

560
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, there were witnesses, four of us.

561
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 2: Speaking of Jersey Short, Snooky has a new ghost hunting

562
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: show coming out, No to Get Her Oh jeehas on it.

563
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: Snooky Paranormal Rookie, Snooky colon Paranormal Rookie.

564
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: It does seem like she'd be a rookie and it's.

565
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: Gonna be on Crave Canada, which I had never heard

566
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 2: of until he didn't know what? Yeah, until you know what?

567
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: You know what?

568
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 2: Okay, do we have more more?

569
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 4: I have one that that's not a part of unfortunately

570
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 4: it was thank you so much. It's the one where

571
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 4: I said that a ghosts saved its own house.

572
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 2: What is that story? Okay?

573
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 4: So on tour and I think Eureka or Kada, they're

574
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 4: very close together. Oregon, No, in northern California, oh County,

575
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 4: Haunted area by the way, very close to is a

576
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 4: Pelican Bay person whatever?

577
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that like almost Oregon? Or did I make

578
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: that up?

579
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 4: It's it's pretty close. It on the way, it's on

580
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 4: the one or the one on one or something.

581
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: Okay. Also Eureka Springs, Arkansas. Have you been? No? This

582
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: place rules. It's so good because its no it's like

583
00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: a gay but also like every one's allowed to just

584
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: be themselves. Part of the South where it's like way

585
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: out in the woods, like you have to like drive

586
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: for forever until you get to this gorgeous little town.

587
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: And I highly recommend Eureka Springs.

588
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like I've actually heard of that places.

589
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: You should. That's what I did, and it was wonderful.

590
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: Audience was so fun.

591
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:24,719
Speaker 1: Cool, good.

592
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 4: Okay, So me and my regular my my other bands

593
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 4: and the Clans were a different band. You're my favorite

594
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 4: band to be in.

595
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: Thank you. That's true.

596
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 4: I've told you that for a long time. It's the

597
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 4: band I'm with a lot. Sure, do you want to

598
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 4: be regular? Regular? I don't want to be irregular, baby, So.

599
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: You're with your normal band.

600
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 4: And my friend gives me her guest room. We like

601
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 4: party really hard at her house, like after a show,

602
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 4: and I got my own room, which is set on tour.

603
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 4: That is like you have made it when you get

604
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 4: your own room. I mean he's used to always frequently. Yeah,

605
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 4: but I got my own room for once, and I

606
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 4: was stoked. I could not sleep. I mean I was sleeping,

607
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: but I was having intense sleep paralysis, which in really

608
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 4: stressful times in my life. I have really bad sleep prolysis.

609
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 4: Even when I was a little kid, I would get it.

610
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: I had ghostes, right, I don't.

611
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 4: I mean, scientifically speaking, they don't think it's ghosts. They

612
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 4: think it's outside. Okay, maybe it's ghosts. It sure feels

613
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 4: like ghosts.

614
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: The thing that I always say is, I think it

615
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 2: could be both at the same time.

616
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 1: Two things can be true. That's true.

617
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 4: It's definitely something funky is going on. So I kept

618
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 4: getting woken up, you know, someone in the corner, someone

619
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 4: crawling out my body, someone staring into my face, like

620
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 4: it's really bad. So this room is connected to the kitchen.

621
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 4: On one side there's a door to the kitchen, and

622
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: then on the other side of the room there's a

623
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 4: door that goes to the bathroom. This is important in

624
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 4: a moment. So I finally, like when the light comes up,

625
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: like early in the morning, I'm able to sleep, and

626
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 4: I sleep like a rock for a few hours and

627
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 4: wake up and go go out to check on my bandmates.

628
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 4: They're sitting on the porch waiting for me to go.

629
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 4: I didn't realize how late it was, and they're like,

630
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 4: we got to go. We have to make it all

631
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 4: the way to Portland, which is like you're driving on

632
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 4: the Goat trail. It's like a gnarly drive from there

633
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 4: to Portland. And I'm like, oh my god, how do

634
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 4: I sleep so much? It's great? What a crazy night?

635
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 4: So I'm like, I have to shower. I'm really gnarly.

636
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: I'll be done really quick. They're like, okay, So I

637
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 4: pack my suitcase, I shower. So when you go from

638
00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 4: the bedroom and you go into the bathroom, there's another

639
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 4: door in the bathroom that goes into this hallway that

640
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 4: leads to the rest of the house. This is all convoluted,

641
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 4: but it makes sense soon. So I take a shower.

642
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 4: It's hella steamy. I crack the hall door and I

643
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 4: like wipe off the mirror and I'm starting to brush

644
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 4: my hair and shit like that. The door pushes open

645
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 4: a little bit, and my friend Courtney, whose house we're

646
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 4: staying at, whispers in my ear really loud, like the door.

647
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 4: I'm at the sink, combing my hair. The door is

648
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 4: like right here. She pushes it open and whispers something

649
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 4: like yell whispers in my ear, and it totally like

650
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 4: like ew, why are you whispering? And why is it

651
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 4: so loud?

652
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: What she said?

653
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 4: I couldn't tell what she was saying. So I look over.

654
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 4: She's not there, and I get chill. The chill so bad,

655
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 4: and I open the door and I look and sometimes

656
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 4: when I get scared, I get enraged. It's definitely like a.

657
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: Not real I've seen what's happens. She's attacked me when

658
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: I dingled the sweater in your face while you're sleeping

659
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: in the father, punched me in my honestly. Yeah, she's

660
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: a fighter.

661
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think that's great.

662
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 4: So I look in the hall and I'm like, Courtney,

663
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 4: where'd you go?

664
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: What? What were you.

665
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 4: Whispering to me?

666
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: Where are you?

667
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 4: Fine? So then I go back and because I'm in

668
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 4: this huge rush, the boys are sitting outside at the

669
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 4: van waiting for me. I'm like hurrying up and then

670
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 4: she does it again. Oh, I have the chills again.

671
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 4: So she does it again, and it's like whatever words

672
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 4: are being said, it's the same like pattern. It's the

673
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 4: same amount of words. I can't tell what any of

674
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 4: them are. And I look and I'm like, Courtney, what

675
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 4: the fuck? Why you keep doing that? You're scarying me?

676
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: Go march visibility.

677
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I marched around and yeah, it doesn't make

678
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 4: sense that she'd whisper And I look and she's just

679
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 4: not there. I go out to where the boys are.

680
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 4: I'd gone through the door that goes into the hallway

681
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: and I'm like, you guys, where's Courtney. She's like pushing

682
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 4: the door in on me while I'm getting ready and

683
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 4: whispringing my year and they're like, oh, she's been gone

684
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 4: for hours. I was like, she's been gone for hours,

685
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 4: and they'm like, yeah, she's at work, been gone for hours.

686
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 4: And then I'm like, oh my god. So I run

687
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 4: back in the bathroom, get my stuff, don't even finish

688
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 4: getting ready, put it like, cram it all my suitcase.

689
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm not using the doorway to the

690
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 4: hall anymore. I'm using the doorway that goes to the kitchen.

691
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 4: These freaking goosebumps. So I go into the kitchen instead,

692
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 4: and there on the table where we'd been partying the

693
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 4: night before is a fuck. It's it like looks like

694
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 4: it's from Are You Afraid of the Dark or something.

695
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 4: It's like a bunch of candles still lit, melting down

696
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 4: onto a big stack of newspapers like such a fire hazard,

697
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 4: and it looks like one of the candles is about

698
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 4: to like melt over and fall light out this big

699
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 4: stack of newspapers off front. So I blow them all out,

700
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 4: and I'm like, that's insanely irresponsible that they fuck Courtney.

701
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 4: I'm just like really like stressed and scared and like whatever.

702
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 4: I I storm out. We get in the van and

703
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 4: start driving, and I have this like epiphany that was, Oh,

704
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 4: I think that this ghost was trying to scare me

705
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 4: from not using that hallway so that I would see

706
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 4: the candles were burning and blow them out.

707
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:21,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

708
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 4: So that and so I contacted Courtney later and I

709
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 4: was like, do you know what anything about like maybe

710
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 4: a ghost in your house. She's like, well, not really,

711
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 4: but there were these two amazing old gay dudes that

712
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 4: owned it and fix it up really nice, and I

713
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 4: know they loved their home. So I was like, maybe

714
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 4: they just like didn't want their home to get fucked up.

715
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally sweet Angel, Yeah, totally like I bet that

716
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 2: they They're not like creepy hanging around unless someone's about

717
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: to fuck up their ship.

718
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like get the fuck out of the.

719
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: What do you think that there's something with doors with you?

720
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: I feel like all of your stories, Oh.

721
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's door open it.

722
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: I think about either.

723
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: There's something there, I mean a doorway way to the

724
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: other side.

725
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 3: Very star a scary.

726
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: They're everywhere everywhere.

727
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 4: When I get my own house and will have no doors,

728
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 4: not even the front door.

729
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: What do you think about haunted dolls? I mean, now

730
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: that you've had you both shared the leather jacket.

731
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: I've never experienced a haunted doll, but I think it's

732
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: dolls are famously scary.

733
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 4: Okay, what do you think? I have a complaint about

734
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 4: it all? Okay, Annabell, Sure scary. It's so scary. The

735
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 4: doll looks like ship. It's so stupid.

736
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: Looking about the movie.

737
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 4: Wait, but the movies are good. It's really scary. The

738
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 4: real doll is like a right that would have been

739
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 4: so much scarier.

740
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: I think it's a licensing thing or like popular down.

741
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: I like the doll. I don't like the one from

742
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,479
Speaker 2: the movie either. I don't think anyone would ever buy

743
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: that doll to begin with.

744
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 4: No, you want you want to trick me into thinking

745
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 4: that it's like a doll that you would actually get

746
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 4: for a try exactly. But those movies, I think we're

747
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: really good and scary. But when I see the doll,

748
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 4: i'd be eye rolling.

749
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you like the movie?

750
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: What do you think about dolls?

751
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with haunted dolls. Some people call me the

752
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 2: haunted doll, and I We have a segment every episode

753
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: where I go to eBay and and well, I may,

754
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: I don't want to buy one, but I find a

755
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: different haunted doll on eBay currently listed, and we'll just

756
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: take a look at it.

757
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait.

758
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: Okay, it's time for the dolls are living? Okay? This one,

759
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: you know, it kind of goes along with what we

760
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: were just talking about with Annabelle, because I'm like, who

761
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 2: would buy this doll? To begin? I'm not really sure,

762
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: but this one right here is currently going for six

763
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: four dollars. I would like for you all to meet Harvey.

764
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 2: Geehow with Harvey?

765
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: You got it?

766
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 4: Rash?

767
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: My god, gay ass doll?

768
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 2: That is an off duty drag queen.

769
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: Wow my god, I'm kind of obsessed. Should I buy it?

770
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: I love in your life? I want it. I want

771
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: to be hunted again.

772
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 4: But if you just have someone paint it for you?

773
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: So cute? Yeah, he's got some big old bell bottoms.

774
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 2: He's definitely dressed like a Is it a gay sailor?

775
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: Is that what we're looking at?

776
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: It's also weird because it's like the gender is very

777
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: like non binary. Right, Yeah, that's funny, but because or

778
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: is it just a drag queen. To me, it reads

779
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: as someone born male with a full face of makeup totally,

780
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 1: but then with like a Pillsbury dough boy hat. Yeah,

781
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: it's like Sailor's artistic. He's trying to.

782
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 4: Make Honestly, if I met a dude dressed like that,

783
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 4: it would be you have a boner?

784
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Sure, Well here's the best part. These all come

785
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: with bios.

786
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: No, do you have it?

787
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 2: Yes? So the people that are that sell these, By

788
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: the way, there's always literally hundreds on e Bay if

789
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: you ever have the.

790
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: Time, and oh do we have the time.

791
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: There's extensive stories that they will write based on what

792
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: they heard from whoever they got it from, or sometimes

793
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: it's because they take it to a psychic. I don't know.

794
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 2: They come up with all these details. So let me

795
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: read you what they wrote about Harvey. And the thing

796
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: to keep in mind is that there is a ghost

797
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: inside of this doll. The doll it doesn't really have

798
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: anything to do with this doll itself. It's like this,

799
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: this is the bio of the ghost that is now

800
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 2: inside hard that's just his Harvey's the best, just the vessels.

801
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: Maybe he used to be in a leather jacket.

802
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: We don't know the interesting eyebrows.

803
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, eyebrows. Those are see honey, I love those. I okay.

804
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: So it says this doll was given to me in

805
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: a bag of dolls that an elderly neighbor gave me

806
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: when cleaning out her basement. Most of the dolls were inactive,

807
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: but this guy inactive. Yeah, this guy was one of

808
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 2: the two active ones. He had to be seen, so

809
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: during our Ouiji board session, he spelled out his name

810
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: and gave me a few different dates. We moved on

811
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: to some intuitive free writing, psychic viewing. They learn all

812
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: this stuff.

813
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 4: He definitely looks like he's listening to you while you're reading.

814
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: He's giving me a side eyes. I tuned in. It's

815
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 2: all true. It's all true. So it says. Harvey was

816
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 2: handsome and muscular, albeit a little shorter than average. He

817
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 2: had blonde hair and dreamy blue eyes. His lips were

818
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: full and pillowy. People would find themselves focused on his

819
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: lips when he was talking. He was outspoken and very straightforward,

820
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: but extremely kind and quick to laugh, even at himself.

821
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: He loved the Navy and was very devoted to it.

822
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: He chose it on a whim as his high school

823
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 2: girlfriend Nancy. High school girlfriend Nancy, and everyone around him

824
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 2: was pushing for marriage and he just wasn't sure or ready.

825
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: Maybe out on his second tour. There's way too much here,

826
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. It goes into basically how he meets in

827
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 2: the navy. He meets Lieutenant Commander Franklin. The two of

828
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: them start fucking each other. Knew it, and it gives

829
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: a description of him. After a few weeks, I got him.

830
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: They spent a bunch of time together. They start started.

831
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: They handed up on the deck alone one night, looking

832
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: out over the dark ocean in the moonlight. Ricky found himself. Wait,

833
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: who's Ricky? Why wasn't Ricky? Yeah, no, it's totally so

834
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: basically anyway, he's gay. Sorry for the spoiler. What he

835
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 2: died of natural causes. He now remains in this doll

836
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: by his choice. He feels that it is his responsibility

837
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: to help others. He wants to guide and assist anyone

838
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: who is struggling with LGBTQ issues. Hello, he is pure,

839
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 2: I can tell y'all I am he is pure positivity,

840
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: good luck, and love. He sounds fun. He really It

841
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 2: says he wants to be home in an LGBTQ plus household.

842
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: The doll is often cold. A fleeting apparition has been

843
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: seen of a stocky man in a uniform. I have

844
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: noticed the smell of aftershave as well, wafting past me.

845
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 2: At times. I feel he has dream walker powers too.

846
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 4: What's that he.

847
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: Can get in your dreams? And he loves to smell

848
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: of coffee brewing.

849
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: Okay, he's gonna love my home.

850
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: And he loves TV, especially love stories.

851
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: Oh why do I want to cry? It that?

852
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: I know?

853
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 2: He's so sweet?

854
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: The author's projection, it was still pretty fab What do

855
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: you mean?

856
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 2: This is all real? This is it's on eBay. It's real. Okay, okay,

857
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: well that was The dolls are living? Can I play

858
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 2: some ghost voices?

859
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: Yes?

860
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, real, Yes, it's time for EVP h EVSE Okay.

861
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: EVPs is electronic voice phenomenal. So this is like ghost

862
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: hunting shows, you know, anytime they capture a ghost speaking,

863
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: I go to YouTube and I find again hundreds of

864
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: people that have recorded ghosts speaking. I've got two of

865
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: them for you today, okay, And I want you to

866
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: tell me what you hear, and then I'll tell you

867
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: what the ghost hunter believes the ghost is saying, Okay,

868
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: these are both coming from I'm excited for an account.

869
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: It is guy spooky. This is an account called the

870
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 2: Oakland Paranormal Oakland. But you know what, maybe it's not Oakland, California.

871
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 2: I feel like there is Oakland, Michigan.

872
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: In California.

873
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 2: Well, this is from a place called Locker Room Saloon.

874
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: This is where they captured the ghost boys, which when

875
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: I looked at it like a bar. Locker room, I

876
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: guess that's what it's called.

877
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 4: Sounds like it would be a fun gay bar.

878
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: It sounds like it would be a fu bar.

879
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 2: When I google it, it says Utica, Michigan. So I'm guessing.

880
00:44:59,520 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: Haunted.

881
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: So what is this ghost? Say?

882
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: What? Definitely a force I heard gobble you up? Maybe

883
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 4: definitely a boy.

884
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 2: Well that's not what the oak comparent normal thoughts. Let

885
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 2: me give you some options. Do they think it was

886
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 2: a good pizza? Oh, B guilty, C don't say that?

887
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: Or D girl please okay, one of those? Okay, let

888
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: me play it again. D.

889
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 4: What was the third one?

890
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: Don't say that.

891
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: It's C R D. Final answer for me, Well.

892
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: I'll just tell you there's no prize. Don't worry. Okay,

893
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: they believe, they believe it is be guilty.

894
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 4: Oh ca, we heard again as guilty.

895
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: Okay.

896
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 4: I think there's more syllables than that guilty, Yeah, guilty.

897
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: I only like the word guilty when it's like guilty.

898
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: I like that for ye too, makes it fun.

899
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: That's fun? Okay, same place, same YouTube account. What is

900
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: this saying?

901
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: Elon musk? No? When I first heard I'm hot and

902
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: then it sounds like I must, oh, hey boss, I'm

903
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a musk at once?

904
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: Do they think it was a ask Pauline? Maybe she's

905
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: one of the ghosts. Asked Pauline. Did they think it

906
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 2: was B no more? C actually?

907
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 5: Or D.

908
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: You gotta keep your seance down? Okay, it was one

909
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 2: of those.

910
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 4: Actually Actually, I guess.

911
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: They think it's no more.

912
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: What.

913
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: I don't hear that one.

914
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 4: I hear at once more than I hear no more.

915
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear something.

916
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 4: I don't hear a human voice or a ghost voice either.

917
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 4: It sounds like it could be something opening.

918
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: Should I, if there's time, Should I tell Chris's ghost story? Yeah?

919
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: I could probably do it quick.

920
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of stories. Still, did you do you

921
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: want to talk about the Joe stories.

922
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: How much time do we have doesn't matter, unlimited.

923
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 4: We should definitely hear Chris's stories, talk about Joe's.

924
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: Okay, Chris is any one here, but it's a good one, Okay,

925
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: all right?

926
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 4: So mine I would call a visitation, which is not

927
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 4: that wasn't like a term I was familiar with. My

928
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 4: fiance died three years ago, and I've had people, a

929
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 4: couple friends contact me saying they had a visitation from Joe,

930
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 4: and I was like, the fuck is that? So it's

931
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 4: him actually like coming to them. So I had what

932
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 4: I think was two visitations, or I've had three. But

933
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 4: there's two fun ones, one sad one. I won't tell

934
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 4: the sad one, but the two fun ones. So I'm

935
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 4: sleeping at his cousin's house in the middle of farm

936
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 4: country in Oregon after a night of partying, and since

937
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 4: he died, I like listened to like really bizarre, uh

938
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 4: sleeping kind of soundtracks on YouTube all night. I listen

939
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 4: to this one that's called like Mushroom Fairy Forest a lot,

940
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 4: and I'm like listening to that to try and sleep.

941
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 4: And she'd put me in this room that she would

942
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 4: always put me in Joe in when we'd sleep over,

943
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 4: and since he died, she would put me in a

944
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 4: different room because she thought it was maybe like two

945
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 4: emotionally charged in there or something. But this night she

946
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 4: forgot to put me in her kids room. She put

947
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 4: me in the old room Joe and I used to share,

948
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 4: and I was like, it'll be a fine, Like you know,

949
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 4: it'll be fine. So I go to sleep in there.

950
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 4: I'm having a hard time sleeping because for the first

951
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 4: time ever, my recording keeps turning off and I'm like, yeah,

952
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 4: hippie fairy, like yeah, mushroom forest. It keeps turning off.

953
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 4: So I'm like, what the hell? And it's like I

954
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 4: have to be so awake that I like pick up

955
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 4: the phone, look at it, and hit play again. So

956
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 4: it's just stopping. It's never done that before ever in

957
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 4: the couple of years I've been listening this stuff at night.

958
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: Do you listen on your phone?

959
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just like charge my phone and have that

960
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 4: playing for you know, a few hours. So I keep

961
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 4: it's probably three or four times that I get up

962
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 4: and hit play again and all frustrated. The last time

963
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,479
Speaker 4: I do it, I sit up and I'm hitting play

964
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 4: and like trying to see, like did I get kicked

965
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 4: off the Wi Fi? Like what's going on? And something

966
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,479
Speaker 4: catches my eye in the corner and it's a pink orb.

967
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 4: I've never seen anything like this in my life, and

968
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 4: it's so sheer and beautiful and like sometimes it seems

969
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 4: like it's barely there and it almost looks like it's breathing.

970
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 4: It's like expanding and contracting and gets really bright and

971
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 4: then it really fades and I get super scared, but

972
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 4: then also like thrilled and excited, and I know that

973
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 4: it's representing Joe in some way, and I feel this,

974
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 4: like I probably sound crazy, but I feel this beam

975
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 4: of information that's just like You're okay, you're safe, go

976
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 4: back to sleep. And I totally felt like that was him.

977
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 4: So a week later, I'm in Austin, Texas for South

978
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 4: By Southwest and we're oh no, not not sought by

979
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 4: some other festival in Austin, and I'm about to debut

980
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 4: a couple songs off our album that are every sing

981
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 4: on there's about Joe, and I'm stressed out and anxious

982
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 4: about like performing these songs for the first time. Anyway,

983
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,959
Speaker 4: I'm sleeping in my friend's guest room and the same

984
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 4: thing's happening to my recording at night. It keeps hitting stop.

985
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 4: So since that day of the ORB, my recording worked

986
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 4: all night every night until this night in Austin, and

987
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 4: it's actually elegant excuse me right outside. So I keep

988
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 4: hitting play and it keeps stopping. I'm like, what the

989
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 4: fuck it's happening again. There's like a chair next to

990
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 4: the bed, and the last time I hit stop, that

991
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 4: catches my eye. And it's not a pink ORB, but

992
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 4: it's Joe sitting in a chair with his leg crossed.

993
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 4: And it's totally the kind of thing where I'm not

994
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 4: physically seeing like his like body, it's like my mind's eye.

995
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 4: This is like some of the first times I since

996
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 4: he died, is like the first time I'd ever been

997
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 4: like aware of my mind's eye at times. So, but

998
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 4: my mind's eye is totally seeing him there, and I

999
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 4: see his leg cross and I'm like, I forgot that

1000
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 4: he sat like that. You know, it's like you lose someone.

1001
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 4: There's all these weird little things that you just totally

1002
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 4: forget about. The way his leg was crossed was like,

1003
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 4: oh my god, that's unmistakably Joe. And again I'm like

1004
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 4: scared and overwhelmed and like so happy and want to

1005
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 4: like bother him. But I get that same like beam

1006
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: of knowledge into my head that's like, you're safe, just

1007
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 4: go back to sleep, You're okay.

1008
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: I'm here.

1009
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 4: And it was so like beautiful and overwhelming all at once.

1010
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 4: The next day, I'm like can't stop thinking about it

1011
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 4: and just about how like it really felt. I felt

1012
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 4: like Joe was right next to me, which I have

1013
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 4: not felt very many times at all since he passed.

1014
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 4: But I'm like getting ready and warming up my voice,

1015
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 4: getting ready for these songs and just thinking about them

1016
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 4: a lot. And I'm sitting at this like in this

1017
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 4: guest room with this vintage desk or of vintage vanity

1018
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 4: with a mirror, getting ready to putting my makeup on whatever.

1019
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 4: My friends who had this house had these two dogs

1020
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 4: that like love to get in the bed with me.

1021
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 4: They jump on the bed and I can see them

1022
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 4: laying in the bed through the reflection of the mirror.

1023
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, these dogs are so freaking cute, and

1024
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 4: they're just passed out, sleeping and getting ready. All of

1025
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 4: a sudden, have I told you this.

1026
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: No, I don't remember. I remember the pink orb, but

1027
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 1: I don't remember the other parts.

1028
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 4: Okay, All of a sudden, both dogs stand to attention.

1029
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 4: They're like so stiff, and they're staring at a space

1030
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 4: on the wall next to me, next to the mirror,

1031
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 4: and I'm just like, hold still because i can see

1032
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 4: the dogs in the reflection and I'm looking at the

1033
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 4: wall in real time, like what the fuck is I

1034
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 4: look at it? And then all of a sudden, both

1035
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 4: of their tails start wagging so hard and they look

1036
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 4: the dogs look so happy, and I'm like, uh, I'm

1037
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 4: guessing Joe is back. And then they start looking. Both

1038
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 4: of their eyes are trained on the same thing that

1039
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 4: I cannot see. There's a goosebumps again, and they're following

1040
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 4: whatever to the other side of me. And then Cody

1041
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 4: walks by the doorway and I'm like, Cody, walk it,

1042
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 4: come in, do you see what's happening? And he witnessed

1043
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 4: these dogs watching something and like totally fixated on this

1044
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 4: other part of the wall. And then suddenly they just

1045
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 4: both lay down and go back to sleep. But Cody

1046
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 4: saw it, which made me feel better because it was like,

1047
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 4: I don't want to be alone with this amazing moment.

1048
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, Cody saw it. Anyways, I felt like it

1049
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 4: was Joe trying to get me comfortable.

1050
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 2: For the shows.

1051
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 4: You do me right, and I know and he was

1052
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 4: my biggest fans.

1053
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: That's so comforting.

1054
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: I know. That's a sweet story.

1055
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: That's the kind of thing I don't. I mean, it's

1056
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 2: obviously part of the conversation of ghosts and stuff, but

1057
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 2: I don't think of it the same way that I

1058
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 2: think of as like scary ghosts that are like I

1059
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 2: think ghosts are like a lot of times just like

1060
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 2: stock someplace, and I feel like when our loved ones

1061
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: can visit us like that, it's spirits. I find comfort

1062
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: in thinking that that means that they are at peace

1063
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 2: and in a good place. Like that kind of a thing,

1064
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 2: as opposed to like we were in a hotel and

1065
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: the scary ass ghost you know what I mean, Like

1066
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 2: that's like a different thing.

1067
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 4: I agree. Yeah, I think he like comes and goes

1068
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 4: when he wants.

1069
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 2: And wherever you are, like, he's probably always.

1070
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: Say not just like in this one jacket or this

1071
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 1: one closet.

1072
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 4: You know what I was thinking about when we were

1073
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 4: going through the eBay dolls how much could you have

1074
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 4: sold that jacket for?

1075
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: I just wanted it gone.

1076
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 2: The whole story.

1077
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: I regret, I guess regrets.

1078
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 4: That's okay, okay, I have to tell sorry.

1079
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: Chris stayed at an idle wild at some.

1080
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: Think it's called Strawberry.

1081
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: Yes, Strawberry, and yes, I knew it.

1082
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 2: That's the haunted one.

1083
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. So he loves staying at haunted places. And he

1084
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: stayed there and he woke up and heard this like

1085
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: thing sounded like it was bouncing around the bed, and

1086
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: he was like middle of the night, and he opened

1087
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: his eyes and he could see this little girl bouncing,

1088
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: like just jumping around the bed and like kind of

1089
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: taunting him. She was like seven or something, and like

1090
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: kept doing it, and he was like, is this real?

1091
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: Like what's going on? And finally he was like who

1092
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: are you? Like, what do you want? Who are you?

1093
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: Who are you? And she goes someone who doesn't like

1094
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: you and vanished. I don't know one that doesn't like you.

1095
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 2: I would be bitch, you don't know me.

1096
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck you.

1097
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 2: Also, I'm alive and you're dead.

1098
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: But famously, I think like a young girl haunts that.

1099
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Speaker 2: I feel like that is the story of that place

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Speaker 2: because I'm obsessed with Idlewild and I'm always looking for

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Speaker 2: haunted hotels to stay and even though I don't actually

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Speaker 2: sleep there because I hate it.

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Speaker 4: But I was going to ask you another one for you.

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Speaker 1: You know, have you been to Copper Queen and Bisbee, Arizona?

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Speaker 2: Copper Queen another great town.

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Speaker 1: Bisbee I saw with its back with a mouse on

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Speaker 1: its back. I swear to God walking on.

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Speaker 4: The street of bb Did a weird man train them

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Speaker 4: to do this?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: That's Bisbee. Bisney is like Eureka Springs. Like I was

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Speaker 2: telling you. It reminds me same kind of vibe, like out.

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Speaker 1: In the mind. Her band, Yeah, her normal band, the Drummer,

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Speaker 1: lives in Bisbee.

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Speaker 2: I love that. The Copper Queen, the Copper Queen I've

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Speaker 2: ever been in my entire life.

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Speaker 1: You know what I have to say. If you're thirsty

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Speaker 1: for ghost experiences, it doesn't happen in my opinion, because

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Speaker 1: we were so ready to be hanted there.

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Speaker 2: I've talked about this many times on this podcast, but

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Speaker 2: I don't care I stay there. I could. I could

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Speaker 2: do a whole horror film about the week I spent

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Speaker 2: in the haunted floor of the Copper Queen. I used

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Speaker 2: to be on a show, short lived show called Living

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Speaker 2: for the Dead on Hulu, which was Christian Stewart's queer

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Speaker 2: ghost hunting show, and I got to watch that.

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Speaker 1: Did you go there?

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Speaker 2: It's nowhere to be found anywhere currently, but it was

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Speaker 2: on Hulu. So we us, there's five of us and

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Speaker 2: our crew where we did an episode there, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know exactly what because we were like kind of

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Speaker 2: like on tour. So it was like we had our

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Speaker 2: set days that we were supposed to film, but then

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Speaker 2: there was like a couple of days off before it

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Speaker 2: was time for it to film. So we spent like

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Speaker 2: I am I kidding you, five six seven days in

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Speaker 2: the place long like my off days were spent in

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Speaker 2: a haunted room.

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Speaker 4: Did they even have a pool?

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Speaker 1: No? No, they don't have a I don't even know

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Speaker 1: if there's a pool in Bisbee. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then when it was time to film and stuff

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Speaker 2: for like two or three days, they had the entire

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Speaker 2: place bought out, so it was only us in this

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Speaker 2: haunted hotel, the scariest place ever. This is the place,

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Speaker 2: the famous place that I saw a curried coffee little

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Speaker 2: pot thing get picked up and thrown. I've never seen

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Speaker 2: anything like that in my life. I want that so

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00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: it was so scary. I had so many things happen.

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Speaker 2: I had one time when I was there where I

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00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 2: saw somebody like in one of the rooms. I could

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Speaker 2: see the reflection on the hallway and I was like, oh, hey,

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00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 2: of course it was like nobody like tons of stuff.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have anything happened there, And I think it's

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Speaker 1: because I was so hungry for it. But I was

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Speaker 1: only there for like one quick night.

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Speaker 2: There's definitely like haunted rooms.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I think we got a non haunted

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Speaker 1: because we were like, does but have something happen? It's

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Speaker 1: the I think that's kind of when my haunting stopped.

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Speaker 2: They didn't catch you in the window. Never had any

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Speaker 2: ghost experiences since, and you want them kinda?

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Speaker 1: I mean I do, and I don't.

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Speaker 2: Let's they have Harvey's still available. Well, jeepers, let me

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Speaker 2: tell you the people we have on this show. Where

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Speaker 2: they find these people, they don't have nothing to talk about.

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Speaker 1: We could talk all day, all night.

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Speaker 2: But quality the two of you brought us so many

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Speaker 2: ghost stories. This is very I'm very impressed.

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Speaker 4: Did people usually have one if we're lucky.

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Speaker 1: Really, what do you talk about?

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Speaker 2: That's what's wrong with us?

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Speaker 1: God, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Something's definitely wrong with it.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I mean when I started doing this podcast in twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 2: the rule was you had to have stories. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: I know there's sometimes people that are like, where are

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01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 2: they bring back those days? Try booking that. That is

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Speaker 2: not easy to find people that have ghost stories that

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Speaker 2: can hold a conversation, like, it's just a lot. So

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Speaker 2: I can't do that every time. But so it's usually

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Speaker 2: like comedians and whoever just talking about ghost or I'll

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Speaker 2: do research and we talk about it or whatever, and

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Speaker 2: then some and then ideally people come in with ghost

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01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 2: stories and they might have one or two or three.

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Speaker 2: We got more this man, this is troubling. Yeah, this

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01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 2: is This is troubling, but very good for this podcast.

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Speaker 1: We love it.

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Speaker 2: So thank you both for doing this. That's it for

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Speaker 2: us so far.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. It was so lovely to meet you.

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Speaker 1: Icon Hi you too well.

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Speaker 2: Tell us like all the places that you got, the

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Speaker 2: all the stuff where we can see you. What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Are you touring?

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Speaker 1: I don't have a new album out walk out on

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Speaker 1: this world Shannon's doing a solo tour very soon, and

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Speaker 1: we're touring this summer and we have a documentary coming out.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I'm.

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Speaker 1: So excited about those screen I don't getty go in June,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know for sure.

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Speaker 2: Cool. What's it call you? Do you know the name?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Can we please get dropped off in a limo? Please?

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Speaker 1: Please? We're getting a Lemma babe, but we'll send you

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Speaker 1: a personal invite.

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Speaker 2: Please.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: I won't come in a limo because I don't want

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Speaker 2: to take away from you, but I usually do because

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Speaker 2: I got ours. That's amazing. Well, congrats. What's the dot called?

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Speaker 1: I guess walk out on this world? Walk? I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's decided, it's not done yet, they just

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Speaker 1: I guess. They filmed like fifty hours, so I think

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01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: they're having trouble editing it.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be a few your length.

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01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like feature length.

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Speaker 2: Cool.

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Speaker 1: A lot happens?

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Speaker 2: How many years are like? What is it Spanish?

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Speaker 1: We started making this record and then COVID happened, and

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Speaker 1: then Joe died, and then my house almost burned down,

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01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: so like there was a lot there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but it's also about like the history of our.

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Speaker 1: Band and yeah, just like mostly me being stupid, but

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Speaker 1: all of us being stupid. I'm excited for it.

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Speaker 2: When did you two meet?

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Speaker 1: We met at the Eagle in like two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, was early.

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01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: I'm I was about to have our twenty year friends

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Speaker 1: friendiversary in La San Francisco. So fun, it was really fun.

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Speaker 1: We have to go on a twenty year trip.

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Speaker 4: Okay to the beach Hawaii.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I haunted beach. By the way. Altadena is also

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Speaker 1: very haunted, and there's a haunted train that people hear. Whoa, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've never heard it, but I've heard a lot about it.

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Speaker 2: We don't have time. We gotta go. Well, thank you

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01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 2: both so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:05,919
Speaker 2: You don't know how many times now I'm going to say,

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01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 2: you need to keep your hands down, please. Thank you

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01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 2: to Seth and Shandon. What an episode. Also, you're familiar

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01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 2: with the fact that we have video episodes on YouTube.

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01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 2: Right We're still working on it, but currently they are

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01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 2: posted a week later. So if there's any that you

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01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 2: haven't heard yet from a couple of weeks ago, or

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01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 2: you want to watch again, or you want to see

1249
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: you only heard it the last stime. You can do

1250
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 2: that on the exactly right YouTube channel, So go go

1251
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 2: watch there. There's some good ones.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: I love y'all, both living and dead. But if I

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Speaker 2: didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me came back.

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Speaker 2: This has been an exactly right production. Want to share

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01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read stories out

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01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 2: loud and sometimes I'll even call you, So email me

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01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 2: at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. You can

1259
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: send a DM or voice message to the show's instagram

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01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 2: at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow while you're there,

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01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 2: and follow me Roz on Instagram at roz Hernandez and

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01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: on TikTok and Twitter at It's roz Hernandez. My senior

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Speaker 2: producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the

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Speaker 2: alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed

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Speaker 2: by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is the

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Speaker 2: petrifying Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by the spine

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Speaker 2: Hilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac.

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Speaker 2: Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen Executive produced by the

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Speaker 2: chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia Hard Start, and the

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Speaker 2: frightening Danielle Kramer. Listen to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez on

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