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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast dominates the international box office.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal, joined by a couple of my favorite heroes,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler and Chris Westling. The preseason is over, gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Uh how about that? Greg excited? Chris must get his

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Speaker 1: Hey Gregg in there, and I like that. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: I think we are excited. Has this August not stretched

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Speaker 1: on forever? Well, we haven't. Have you heard yet that

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Speaker 1: this has been five weekends in August? Maybe that's why

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Speaker 1: it's not every month it has five weekends. Oh and yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're starting the season early. You know, we were talking

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Speaker 1: about this season. If you think about how many weeks

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Speaker 1: are in the season, you know, there's seventeen regular season.

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Speaker 1: It's a long process. But we've already been through seven weeks.

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Speaker 1: We get five weeks of preseason games, two weeks before that,

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Speaker 1: we're in regular season mode. And who wants to watch

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Speaker 1: that trash they put up there on the fourth preseason

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Speaker 1: you know week that Thursday night's the worst night of

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Speaker 1: professional football year. I didn't watch a single game Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: I watched drunk history instead. I don't like that show

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Speaker 1: that much. It seems like it should be so funny,

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Speaker 1: and it's not that funny. I like Greg totally shifting

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Speaker 1: out of his company man suit to take the fourth

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Speaker 1: preseason week down. All right. Find the NFL owner that

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Speaker 1: says it's a good product. It's it's a waste of time,

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Speaker 1: but they're still making their money. I think it's I

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Speaker 1: think it's a bad, bad move by any father or

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Speaker 1: mother that drops like six dollars to take a family

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Speaker 1: of four to a fourth week preseason game. You could

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Speaker 1: have strategized that better if you're a family, right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is a week where not only the starters sit out,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of times the backup sit out. You

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Speaker 1: just start with the third stringer. You just go right

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Speaker 1: to Sean Renfree after t J. Yates is on the

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Speaker 1: field a little while. I mean, it's just it's mostly

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Speaker 1: a waste of time. But we were here last night,

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Speaker 1: Greg and I thought we actually saw on the young

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Speaker 1: quarterback front. We saw them all play. Actually that's true,

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Speaker 1: there were We enjoyed some of it. It was a

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Speaker 1: pretty low key night, and we might as well get

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Speaker 1: right into it because we have a big show today

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Speaker 1: and we want to get to it all. First, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit of news, and then we'll

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Speaker 1: quickly move on to our awards. We're wrapping up the preseason.

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Speaker 1: A lot of buzz about this preseason m v P Award.

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Speaker 1: It will be announced for the first time on the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast before it lands anywhere else world exclusive.

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Speaker 1: And then we'll hit to some maybe some okay decent awards,

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Speaker 1: uh that matter to the regular season. M v P

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Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, Rookies of the Year, will

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Speaker 1: make our predictions for those will make our super Bowl predictions,

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Speaker 1: will get Dan Hansis and Kevin Patrick coming at you

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Speaker 1: on the line to make their super Bowl predictions. But

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Speaker 1: before we do that, I gotta turn into my man

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Speaker 1: and TD. What's going on? What's going on? Guys? Yes,

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Speaker 1: the preseason week for the issue issue I have with it.

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Speaker 1: You know, when this preseason starts and everyone says from

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Speaker 1: this point on, guys to the end the February, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be an NFL game every Sunday, every weekend.

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Speaker 1: It's not true. There's yeah, that's not true. Well, it

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Speaker 1: is true. It is true. If like the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL staff, you're watching film non stuff. There are plenty

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Speaker 1: of games on Sunday alight. So what are you doing

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Speaker 1: with your off time instead of growing your knowledge on

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Speaker 1: the name other than asking for head shots? What's the

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Speaker 1: head chat? Well, I mean, I don't know. Well, the

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Speaker 1: so the earlier this week I put up add article

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Speaker 1: on NFL dot com at first dot com article, and

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Speaker 1: a head shot it was. Patrick called him out on it.

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Speaker 1: This is this is a fabricated story. You need a

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Speaker 1: little more than one article, maybe ten. Hey cracks on that.

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Speaker 1: By the way, We're not just here to take you

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Speaker 1: on a professional website. It was good stuff. This is

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's um So we're doing an award show today, obviously,

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Speaker 1: It's still a little news. And we'll start with what

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Speaker 1: what what are you so excited about? Because I know

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Speaker 1: Shop in the season opener. Yeah. Derek Carr looked very

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Speaker 1: Reggie mackenzie for having not found a quarterback. You found one,

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Speaker 1: I'll play him. It's funny that he said three starting quarterbacks. Well,

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Speaker 1: And as stupid as Reggie mackenzie looks for giving Matt

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Speaker 1: start with Johnny manzel Mark. I know you were dialed

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Speaker 1: We have to vacate the podcast studio TV is shaking

427
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Speaker 1: his well, why not throw me under the bush? We

428
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Speaker 1: are all forty minutes older. Yeah, we all have to

429
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Speaker 1: leave because Alden Smith, the star pass rusher of the

430
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Speaker 1: San Francisco Ford Niners, has been suspended for the odd

431
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Speaker 1: number nine games. I've never seen a nine game suspension.

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Speaker 1: A little bigger than we thought, a lot bigger than

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Speaker 1: we thought I would. I was guessing five, maybe right,

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Speaker 1: nine more than half the season. Well. NFL media insider

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport noted that the forty Niners also were very

436
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Speaker 1: surprised with the U the length of the suspension. I'll

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Speaker 1: call him star Cross, not Star and he broke it

438
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Speaker 1: up and that's why it was so long. Was five

439
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: of the games was for I believe the substance abuse

440
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Speaker 1: pliers for the games for the substance abuse policy, five

441
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Speaker 1: for the personal conduct policy. Aldon Smith has had a

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00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: number of incidents, uh drinking, do you I related? And

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00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: you know separate with a felon each. There was a

444
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Speaker 1: lot going on, so it makes some sense to be

445
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Speaker 1: nine games, but that's a worst case scenario for them.

446
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: A colorful character, and breer Um mentioned that because people

447
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: are asking, you know, what way, why is it that

448
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: Aldon Smith they're allowing him to be around the facility?

449
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: Why is someone like Josh Gordon or other people not Well,

450
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: if you have a second substance abuse offense, that is

451
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Speaker 1: not a privilege you have. And so I guess Smith

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00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: with Smith, it's he's allowed to It's still is unclear

453
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Speaker 1: to me, but well he that that's a good I

454
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: guess it's over lining for them. But he misses a

455
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: big chunk of the season, misses a game against the Saints.

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00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 1: He won't miss either of the Seahawks games. But are

457
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Speaker 1: we concerned about this defense? Now? You know you were

458
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: out navar bowment half the season without Glen Dorsey, without

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Speaker 1: Alden Smith looks like my uh my prediction that the

460
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Speaker 1: forty Niners demise could happen looking a little better today.

461
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 1: They were seen as the best line cauls of immediate

462
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Speaker 1: positive out of this train. I'm tapping my fingers. They

463
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Speaker 1: were seen as the best linebacker corps since the Saints

464
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Speaker 1: of the Jim Mora era with Pat the Dumb Swilling

465
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Speaker 1: and Ricky Jackson and Sam Mills. Vaughan Johnson was in

466
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Speaker 1: his name Ricky Jackson Vaughan Uh, I don't know. That's

467
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: the podcast creeps to anyway. The point is there without

468
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Speaker 1: without two of them and maybe the best too. Did

469
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Speaker 1: he's laughing at as well. We we don't have a

470
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Speaker 1: lot of sleep here right now. I'm just dazed at

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Speaker 1: how you just absolutely just pulled out the car and

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Speaker 1: you know you saw the fourth World and this is

473
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Speaker 1: what you did to it? Do you guys not like

474
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Speaker 1: that that? I was just being honest with you know,

475
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Speaker 1: we don't play games with time to start, all right. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's it for the Alden Smith News. That was a surprise,

477
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Speaker 1: but we're gonna move on. And finished my point. You

478
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Speaker 1: had a point I was. I didn't know there was

479
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: was breaking down the defensive as right. Well, it's hard

480
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Speaker 1: to tell with the thirty second pause between the names,

481
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Speaker 1: but sure, continue on. Sorry, I quit. That's it out here.

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00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: A lot of says, well, listen, Wesley, if you hear

483
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: this and it's still the month of August log onto

484
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: the website and find Wesley's post, which should be prominently placed.

485
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: You will learn a lot about why these defense will

486
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: be challenged. Fair enough, No, please finish the now it's awkward. No, now,

487
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: it's it's useless. They just lost two All pros, two

488
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: of the four linebackers, possibly the best two of their

489
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: four linebackers, definitely right well. Alden Smith has the most

490
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: sax per game in NFL history zero point nine, and

491
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Speaker 1: Navarre Bowman was your choice for defensive Player of the

492
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Speaker 1: Year last year. He was. So they are without those

493
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Speaker 1: guys for the first first half of the season, essentially

494
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: pushing it way forward and not wanting to go down

495
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: a wormhole. I it's such a it's gonna be interesting

496
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: to watch it if this team tries to keep him

497
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: around and resign him. I just think it's a really

498
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: rough scenario for that front office to deal with. But

499
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, it always comes down to talent. You don't

500
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: want to you know where he'll land if he gets

501
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: if he if he goes into the waiver world, it's seattle.

502
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: They'll just pick him right up and say, we'll deal

503
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: with this kind of guy. Why doesn't he just follow

504
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: Jim Harball to his next team. Wow, I think I

505
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: think if they've been this basin which with Alden Smith

506
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: throughout this process, I think as long as nothing else happens,

507
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: that they'll still give him some money. Yeah, why not. Hey,

508
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: he's talented. Everyone gets paid. And and by the way,

509
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Speaker 1: you know, sometimes we get tweets that it's uncomfortable the

510
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: the tension between Chris and I. Occasionally, you know, it's

511
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: all love. There's no tension, there's never any tension. It's

512
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: definitely uncomfortable for the rest of us. Let's move on

513
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: to our awards. Let's start with the Most Valuable Player Mark,

514
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: who was your choice for the two thousand and fourteen

515
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,719
Speaker 1: m v P When you look in the crystal ball, Well, all,

516
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this a boring pick because it's the

517
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: safest pick that I can come up with, and it

518
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: is Aaron Rodgers, the Green Bay Packers quarterback. Who you

519
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: know it gets left at number eleven on the top

520
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: one D list at well, it's a cross season memory.

521
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: It's floated off. We don't care, but it's still gets

522
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: under my skin because this guy is at the peak

523
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: of his game. He's the best quarterback in the NFL.

524
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: Right now, He's set up very well in Green Bay

525
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 1: to do what he does, but have a lot more

526
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: support around him than he's had in the past. This

527
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: is a potential super Bowl team. They're gonna go to

528
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: the Final four. Green Bay is gonna get it done,

529
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers m v P bank on it. Right now,

530
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: you can't even let's why are we still continuing this conversation.

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Speaker 1: You're getting me fired up? Sessler? Right, I picked up

532
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: Rodgers too. I think he's a generational talent. I think

533
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: when he retires, we'll talk about him in the same

534
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: way we talked about Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and

535
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: those guys they end up getting multiple m v p s.

536
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: He's thirty one. Things are really good around him. It

537
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: just feels like it'll be one of those transcendent years

538
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: like he had in two thousand eleven when they didn't

539
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: finish it off in the playoffs. But he was he

540
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: was great in the regular seasons. You got Aaron Rodgers

541
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: is the best player in the NFL, but I don't

542
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: believe he will win this award. You're gonna go with

543
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: the second or third best player. Yes, I'm gonna go

544
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: with someone who is in the top five players in

545
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: the NFL. He's up there for high the Saints. I've

546
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: said it before, they're gonna break some records, some of

547
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: the records the Broncos set last year. Along the way,

548
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: Drew Brees will join two thousand and four and two

549
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: thousand and thirteen, Peyton Manning two thousand seven, Tom Brady

550
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven, Aaron Rodgers as the only players

551
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: with a passer rating over one fifteen in a season,

552
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: well over one fifteen plus forty yards and forty five touchdowns.

553
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: So he's gonna have that magical season that you cannot

554
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: avoid in the m v P race. I'd like it

555
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: when predictions line up and you've predicted the Saints to

556
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: win the super Bowl and that means they're gonna have

557
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: a great regular seasons. That makes sense. Oh that's right,

558
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna give our super Bowl picks. But we've talked

559
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: about it a lot. Forget that happened again, pulling back

560
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: the curtain. One thing about and I kind of think

561
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: some of these awards are a little shammy because it's

562
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: kind of like when you get Best Picture and whoever

563
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: doesn't win that typically gets Best director, like I'm going Saints,

564
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm going Breeze for Offensive Player of the Year. Do

565
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: you you can't say that on the podcast. We didn't

566
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: we That's not even a one that we did. We're

567
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: not talking about offensive player there. That's a ridiculous That's

568
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: my point is that that whole dynamic with the film

569
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: world is idiotic because they just reward the guy that

570
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: didn't get the other one. Breeze and Rodgers are at

571
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: the top of this list. One's going to get off

572
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: the offensive player the other m v P have a

573
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: nice day. Are we ignoring Peyton Manning? No, we're bored

574
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: with him. Testify. If you go to NFL dot com,

575
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: you can see all the writers on the site that

576
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: had the time to do it, predicting divisions and different

577
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: award winners. And I actually abstained from voting for the

578
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Year because I have a moral

579
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: obligation to It's a campaign for you, it's a it

580
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: is now the line of now that we've raised the

581
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: gold post t d and uh, we're gonna try to

582
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: get the slide, the quarterback slide as an event and

583
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: to the common We got a lot of feedback on

584
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: Twitter on that, which I appreciate. The other thing I

585
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: want to do is to abolish the Offensive Player of

586
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: the Year award. It's totally ridiculous the m v P

587
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: is the Offensive Player of the Year because it's always offense.

588
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: You know who? It's Can they be different? You know who?

589
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: It's not ridiculous too, is the agents and players that

590
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: weave these awards into their contracts where it triggers, you know,

591
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: future big deals and cashola. So it's not gonna be

592
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: careful what you asked for. Why they get rid of

593
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: this award, You're gonna be like Alexander the Great, sitting

594
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: on the side of a hill, crying that you have

595
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: no lands left to conquer. I'll come up with something else.

596
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,959
Speaker 1: I just came up with this one. After the goal

597
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: post are raised, I'm on fire. Let's go to let's

598
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: go to defense. Uh Mark, who you got for Defensive

599
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: Player of the Year. I don't even know. I don't

600
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: even remember. We wrote a whole Earl Thomas, Earl Thomas.

601
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: It's late. Mark was here until eleven last night and

602
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: came into very early seven. I actually in another world.

603
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: One of the reasons I think the m v P

604
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: award is A big sham on some level is that

605
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: it typically always goes to a quarterback or an offensive player.

606
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas is an m v P worthy player. But

607
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 1: because on most television screens, unless you watch all twenty two,

608
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: you don't see the safety. You don't see the safety.

609
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: Maybe that needs to be one of the other rules, Greg,

610
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: things are trying to change. We need to see more

611
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: in the broadcast. Why don't we have that behind the

612
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks view? That's what I want to see. I want

613
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: to see what the quarterback seeing when you know the

614
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: receiver gets open. I want to see why isn't he

615
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: passed into that guy was all alone last year and

616
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: arguing for Earl Thomas to be Defensive Player of the

617
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: Year award, and now everybody on this around the league,

618
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: around around the NFL crew wants him to be this

619
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: year because Chris, you are a genius. No, it just

620
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 1: means like, why did if he was that great, why

621
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: didn't you say he should have got it last year? Well,

622
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: because in August last year I picked Patrick Peterson. No,

623
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: I mean at the end of the year, I don't

624
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: recall saying yeah or nay on that. And my pick

625
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: was Bowman you're right. I I'm not picking Thomas. He's

626
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: a good pick, though maybe he'll be even better this year,

627
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: you know, better than he was last year than he

628
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: get the word? Who do you got West? I've got uh?

629
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: Darrell Reeves? Oh, I like that. I think J. J.

630
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: Watts the best player in the NFL, just like I

631
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: think Aaron Rodgers is the best or the best defensive player,

632
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: just like I think Aaron Rodgers is the best. And

633
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: didn't give him the m v P. I think Reeves

634
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: if he returns to two thousand nine eleven form on

635
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender, I think he gets the award.

636
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: That would be sweet. They like narratives too, and that's

637
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: a nice narrator. And how much would he cash in?

638
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: Like crazy? And that means the Patriots defense will be

639
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: as good as I'm hoping nobody likes to cash in

640
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: like Darrell Reeves right, My choice is a little uh

641
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: off the radar relatively, Gerald McCoy, who I think was

642
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: in the mix for it last year if people had

643
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: been paying attention, and it's a lot of hype around

644
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: this guy for sure. Yeah, and I do think that

645
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: the Bucks will be a top three to five defense

646
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: be the type of defense that gets a lot of

647
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: attention that he's going to be the best player on it.

648
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: He's twenty six years old. He's just what you want

649
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: in a top five pick. He's gotten better each and

650
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: every year. There has not been a season where McCoy

651
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: didn't get better, and now he's at the point where

652
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: he's should be, in the middle of his prime. Top

653
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: five defensive players, it's a little tough to get it

654
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: from defensive tackle. Not many people win the award from

655
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: that position. But just like his buddy Warren's apted, I

656
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: think McCoy can. I like it all right, let's move

657
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: on to Rookies of the Year offensive and defensive. But

658
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: let's start on the offensive side of the ball. Mark

659
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: who you got? I don't know, Greg, You and I, uh,

660
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: we've been on the party line with this, but I

661
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 1: went Blake Bortles on offense. I think he's gonna win

662
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: the award with just thirteen or fourteen starts. I like it.

663
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: And listen, this is an easy one for me. Again.

664
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: It's these awards are about premier positions, the quarterback. If

665
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: one rookie quarterback shines, that's it. It's done. Running Backs

666
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: win it a lot just because they get the ball

667
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: and it's easy to start to pay attention there. And

668
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm actually, I think we're we're all kind of looking

669
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: at the rookie running back group and saying, this is

670
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: a very unimpressive so far. There's a better chance it'll

671
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: be a rookie receiver if it's not a quarterback. But

672
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: this is all narrative based. I think that this is

673
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: just people like to vote for things that get them going.

674
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: And if you can be a quarterback that comes in

675
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: and turns a totally wayward franchise like Jacksonville around, you know,

676
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: this is set up for him to win it if

677
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: he if he does what I think we'll do, he'll do.

678
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: I I love Bordles. That was my pick two. When

679
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: I looked at everyone from around NFL media's picks, and

680
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: there was a good handful of Bordles and there was

681
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: no one voting for h Kelvin Benjamin. I wish I

682
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: voted for Benjamin because that's my strong number two. I

683
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have a great year, go over a

684
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: thousand yards and be a key part of that offense

685
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: and deliver. So he would be my number two pick.

686
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: But I got Bortles. What do you got, Chris? I

687
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: couldn't go with Bortles because I don't think he'll get

688
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: enough starts. It's fair, but we've got a sandwich on

689
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: Vince Young? Did it? How many he starts? Did Vince

690
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: Young have twelve or thirteen his rookie year? He definitely

691
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 1: didn't start the year. It was a lot of late

692
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: game magic involved with Vince Young's award one nine straight games.

693
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: He was a little a lot of help from pac

694
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: Man Jones there too. He was Tim Tebow with more tallent.

695
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: How many games do you think he will start Bortles?

696
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: If I had to guess, I would say the over under. Well,

697
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: we can't. Sorry, you could do over under? Uh ten? Okay, yeah,

698
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: ten would be tough, but possible if he was incredible

699
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: before Halloween. Is my prediction on when Henny goes six

700
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: games with Chad, Henny will feel like seven lifetimes. Anyone

701
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: in Florida. It won't happen. People were talking about Mike

702
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: Vick as an m v P when he missed three

703
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: or four games, which was ridiculous. You know what can happen?

704
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: Who who do you got for your mine? You mentioned

705
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin. Mine came down to Kelvin Benjamin and Brandon Cooks.

706
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: I am sticking with the pattern of the Saints going

707
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, Drew Brees winning m v P.

708
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks comes in and uh in Jack's life into

709
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: that offense. He was exactly what this team needed with

710
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: their wide receivers getting so slow and old last year.

711
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: So I think he kind of comes in like a

712
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: DeShawn Jackson did in Philadelphia his rookie year. It makes

713
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: sense to me. On on defense, it comes down to

714
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: Devian Clowney and Ryan Shazier as the favorites. And I'm

715
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: gonna start saying Jadevion because that's what his mom said.

716
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: Is his real name not Jadeveon. Well, I would go

717
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: with the mom, right, So let's let's make this change

718
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: on this podcast. Those that have to be the two favorites.

719
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: And I think you can put Shazier right there with him,

720
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: just because a little easier to win from inside linebacker.

721
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: You're racking up tackles. He's gonna be active in the

722
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: passing game. It's it's easier to get a lot of

723
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,959
Speaker 1: tackles than it is to get a lot of Sacks.

724
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: That's why guys like Jared Mayo et cetera win this award.

725
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm going Saser, I'm with you. I could not go

726
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: with jad Clowney. I like the idea of it, but

727
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: I'm going shas here too. And uh, listen, you just

728
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: said it all. I think Pittsburgh has come so much

729
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: for us. I didn't pick him, and I don't agree

730
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: that it just comes down to those two guys. I

731
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: think we're sleeping a little bit on C. J. Mosley

732
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: of the Ravens. We're sleeping a little bit on Calvin

733
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: Pryor of the Jets. I like that. Khalil mack Mum,

734
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: you almost add me out of my chair, but then

735
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: I'm pumping up a raider. This is unusual for me.

736
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: He did look good the last couple of Kevin Patrick's

737
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: boy Anthony Barr, who looks like a dynamic athlete for

738
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: the Vikings, and you know Zimmer is gonna know how

739
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: to use him. But my pit came down to Clowney

740
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: for the highlight factor. He only played two preseason games,

741
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: and both of those games his hits went viral. He's incredible,

742
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: that's going. Those viral hits are going to be a

743
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: big asset in his campaign for this award. I think

744
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: Shazier has some of that same highlight d na's and

745
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: he'll be on national TV a lot with the Steelers,

746
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: whereas Clowney will not. Oh, I don't think we had

747
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: to worry about coverage of jadevon County. That's fair. Uh,

748
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: Let's just skip Pats Coach of the Year because it's

749
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: boring and it's just the teams that we think are

750
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: gonna do well. Let's go to uh comeback Player of

751
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: the Year. Also a weird award, but a lot of

752
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: good candidates, Chris, you actually wrote a good piece months

753
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: ago about different candidates. Since you wrote that piece, which

754
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: had a lot of good names on it, Julio Jones, Gronkowski,

755
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: r G three, Percy Harvin, Clay Matthews, a couple of

756
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: Broncos defensive players, Von Miller and DeMarcus ware Who who's

757
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: kind of strigging your fancy right now? I think Gronk

758
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: would have to be the favorite for me right now,

759
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna stick with my RG three pick, even

760
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: though he looks like a wreck at quarterback over the

761
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: past three weeks. Well, are you sticking with it just

762
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: out of principle, or do you really think at this

763
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: point that this will happen. I'm thinking I'm sticking with

764
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: it to teach myself a lesson, not to overrate the preseason,

765
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: the rare. Teaching yourself a lesson. That's what this show

766
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: is about. It's about self growth, and that's what Chris

767
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: Wesley is doing right there. And sometimes self hatred, self loathing, Yes,

768
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: plenty of that mark you got. By the way, This

769
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: list written in June, and a lot has changed since June.

770
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: Outside of one quarterback in Michael Vick, where this could

771
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: have gone in a different way, they obviously were cemented

772
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: on Genial Smith. Everyone on this list is still in play.

773
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: Julio Jones makes a lot of sense, and that's my

774
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: That's where I'd go, just because well because of what

775
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: we what little we've seen in the preseason, and this

776
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: is you want to talk about one things we'd say

777
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: we can judge is a a guy coming back from injury.

778
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: How does he look? He's looked like a monster. That

779
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: offense is completely built around him blowing up. I could

780
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: see him having a Josh Gordon type season, and you know,

781
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't trust the RG three thing as much as

782
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: Wesley does at this point. Gronkowski, for me, that's why

783
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: this whole award is stupid, a weird awards, stupid award.

784
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: He was dynamic last season, he got injured, but it's

785
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Rivers won it last year. That was weird.

786
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: I know tight end has ever won this award, and

787
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call him a tight end though, but well,

788
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: but not in the sense that that that position when

789
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: they weren't voting for tight ends for decades. It's because

790
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: tight end position isn't what it is today. I think

791
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: that's as random that tight ends haven't won it. And

792
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: wide receivers, when I researched this, I remember that you

793
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: pretty much have to be the best wide receiver in

794
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: the NFL to win. Steve Smith wanted coming off the

795
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: broken leg. I think Randy Moss wanted coming off the

796
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: Raiders disaster. I think Jones could pull that off or

797
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: be problem that That makes my pick seem a little

798
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: silly because I'm gonna go with the first person to

799
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 1: ever do the preseason postseason double, Santonio Holmes for Comeback

800
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,959
Speaker 1: Player of the Year. Forget about it. How excited would

801
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: that be you don't believe that. No, I don't. I

802
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: don't really think I don't like this award. But I

803
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: could see Holmes, it would be fun coming back from

804
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: all those waken bakes he had a couple of years ago.

805
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: What's up TV guys, as he listened to your analysis

806
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: here and so you guys clearly have problems sometimes when

807
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: the award is based on a storyline. But this is

808
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: one award category that doesn't even try to hide the

809
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: fact that it's a storyline. You know, It's like, yeah,

810
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: it's it's a weird award. But Rivers makes no sense

811
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: because he was coming back from what bad play. It

812
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: was terrible turnovers for two years, but players performance all

813
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: over the place rises and falls every season. I mean,

814
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't. I just it's a strange one that the

815
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: NFL officially hands. They should just give it to Thomas

816
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: Davis every year until he's not good again, or Chad

817
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: Pennington again when he kept when he got it a

818
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: second time, That's when I knew this The word was ridiculous.

819
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: Greg's pick was actually Mohammed Massaqua, who will emerge from

820
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: nowhere to join a team in Week three and explode

821
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: that's a settler. You're I'm sticking with Holmes, Are you really, Santonio? Interesting?

822
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: That's your pick, Santonio. They're not gonna throw at the

823
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: Brandon marsha One, Sean Jeffrey Mortella is Benett. They're gonna

824
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: throw He's only trying to get the Facebook call out

825
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: when they publicize this part. The courage, the courage that

826
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: it's taken homes to recover from being the first person

827
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: in NFL history to get kicked out of his own

828
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: huddle to come back and show the inner strength. That's

829
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: a good story. I don't I don't believe this because

830
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: I know you don't believe it. All right, let's get

831
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: to our Super Bowl picks. Usually real pick. I don't

832
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: have a real pick. Do I need one? Well, that

833
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: is a real person, So I mean, I'm going, but

834
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm sticking with I don't know. I don't need one. Um,

835
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: Let's move along to our super Bowl picks. And to

836
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 1: do that, we're gonna get our fellow comrades on the horn,

837
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: including our Chicago correspondent Kevin Patrack coming at you, t D.

838
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: Can we give him a ring? Yes we can. He's

839
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: on right now. Kevin Patrick coming at you. What is

840
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: what's up? You're actually back in Detroit right now, right

841
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: back at your home. Uh, that's correct. Um My nephews

842
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: turning one this weekend, so I'm here to see him

843
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: and hang out with his family. Well, I'm sure he'll

844
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: remember you coming in for all his life. What a gesture. Wait,

845
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: he's one. He won't have a memory that sticks for

846
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: five years. What the win? No, it's terrific that he's back.

847
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm I often think about that when all these nice

848
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: moments with my daughter, that she'll never remember any of them. Well,

849
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: that's why the picture isrect. Yes, Uh, not to get

850
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: too Why does humanity exist? Can you answer that for us?

851
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: Why does humanity exist? Uh? Kevin? Oh, good lord, I

852
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: don't know. For me to have fun, I hope that's

853
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: a good answer. Yes, I like it. Also, what's your

854
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowl pick? This year? I went with the Seahawks because,

855
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: look we talked about I believe that they're Their team

856
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: building is by far the best, and since the early Patriots,

857
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody has had a better chance to

858
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: repeat than they do. They're in a position where do

859
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: you have young players improving? I think Russell Wilson's gonna

860
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: have to fantastic here, and teams are gonna have to

861
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: go through Seattle, which is it's been nearly impossible. On

862
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: the flip side, I have them, actually have them beating

863
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: the Steelers, who I think we'll come out of the

864
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: a f C. We are riding the Steelers and a

865
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: couple of you guys not to give it away here,

866
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: really like the Steelers to make it through the a

867
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: f C. That that's bold going over. Sometimes you gotta

868
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: pick a girl ball. Yeah, taking the Patriots Broncos, you know,

869
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: you know it's not always the same. And you're actually

870
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: the only person to take the Seahawks, so you have

871
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: a pretty good chance to be the one that's right

872
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: this year. Dan Hans has actually nailed it last year.

873
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: We'll talk to him in a second. Uh yeah, that's

874
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: all we got for you. Are you gonna get into

875
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: it with some friends in Detroit or what's going on here?

876
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm not at liberty to discuss those matters. Well, I

877
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: know we haven't working. I don't want the NFL, you know,

878
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: becoming aware of my shadow. Do you lack friends? Do

879
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: I lack friends? Well? I mean that I have I

880
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: have I have two or three friends. Interesting when TD

881
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: is giggling like a schoolgirl with that one love how

882
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: Cessler just asked, with the serious hints of seriousness, ain't concerned?

883
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: Do you have friends? Well? I wanted to to reach

884
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 1: you out again. This We just talked about the show

885
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: being a show of healing. We love Kevin Patrick and

886
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: this is just about the one year anniversary of Kevin

887
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: Patra having started up with Around the League and it's

888
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: been quite a year. So thanks, thanks for all that

889
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: you do Kevin, and uh we'll talk to you soon.

890
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. False one al right, Next in line is

891
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: the man, the man with the new boy, Dan Hanss

892
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: and his son Jack. He's gonna call in. Let's get

893
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: him on the line, t D. He's got the entrance music.

894
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: It's Dan hands is back on the show. What's going on?

895
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: But awesome reference? But are you ready to come back

896
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: into our loving embrace? In a couple of I am

897
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: very ready. I had been waiting for Alvin Smith's decision

898
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: to come through. It got Josh Gordon, got week three

899
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: of the preseason, got the cuts. I'm now ready to return.

900
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: How's little Jack doing? Jack's doing great? I mean, he's

901
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: a healthy baby boy who didn't sleep last night, So

902
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 1: things are starting to take a turn for the towards

903
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: the evil. But at the same time, you know, I'm

904
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: happy to have him at home obviously, and but also

905
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: ready to get back to work and join my around

906
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: the NFL teammates. Oh yeah, we by the way, we

907
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: changed the complete name of our podcast. And uh, since

908
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: you've been I also I can tell you that a

909
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: lot of people on Twitter, we're under the asumption, the

910
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: wrong assumption, that this was somehow done behind my back,

911
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: and I needed to return to help restore normalcy and

912
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: get the name back to what it was. But I

913
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: really have no power here either. This is a corporate

914
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: maneuver that people below Rock or perhaps Rock himself greenlit,

915
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: and we just got to move forward. Yeah, I'm excited

916
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: for it, And uh, I know you're busy with you

917
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: got to get back to Jack. So we had to

918
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: have you on to predict the super Bowl because you

919
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: predicted the Super Bowl exactly right, not only in the

920
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: middle of last season, but before last season. You had

921
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: the Seahawks beating the Broncos in the Super Bowl, and

922
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened, and by the way, was chided

923
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: for it been undressed and treated as an amateur. Well

924
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: not in the preseason, they were the favorites. To be fair,

925
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: he was not the only ANSAs out of nowhere like

926
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: a fire bomb on a Monday night calls it directly. Well,

927
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: that was in the middle of the season, but even

928
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: before the season, him and you know a handful of

929
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: other NFL media, they were the favorites for you know,

930
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: I gotta take you down a little, No, I should.

931
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: You're awesome. Don't forget that. Not only did I call

932
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: the exact UH team and the winner, I also in

933
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: that mid season prediction predicted a blowout and they even

934
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 1: throughout the score which I got within about five points

935
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: on each end. So it was a mighty victory. So

936
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: it's important that I'm on the phone right now talking

937
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: about this. Tell us, then, tell us who's gonna win

938
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: this Super Bowl? Since we know what's gonna happen. Well,

939
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: I know you'll be excited about this because this is

940
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: your pick every year. But I think the Green Bay

941
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: Packers will get back to the Super Bowl with a

942
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: healthy Aaron Rodgers and they will be defeat the New

943
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: England's Patriots. Brady and there the last Brady Belichick shot

944
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl. They're gonna get through the n FC,

945
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: get through Peyton Manning and the a f C title game,

946
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: but they will will be stopped by the Packers, who

947
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: will use home field advantage to get past the Seahawks

948
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: and the NFC title. I like it. I like Dan

949
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: couching the concept that this is New England's end run.

950
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: So then it suggests something positive for the Jets. They

951
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: will make three more Super Bowls. Dan, I'm sorry you're ill.

952
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: Times have we had? Remember when there was that fogus

953
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: debate about is Tom Brady done as elite? And I

954
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: remember we talked about this a few months ago, a

955
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: couple of months ago, and I and I still believe,

956
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: I just have a bit of a settler that this

957
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: is Brady's last real shot. And I talked to Greg

958
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: before how I've always seen some career parallels between Tom

959
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: Brady and my boy Derek Keeter and how they their

960
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: careers have progressed, both starting with a major flurry, historic flurry,

961
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: and then going through a long down period, well not

962
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: down here, but period drive here and he turns the

963
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 1: title and then in two thousand nine, with Derek Jeter.

964
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: He got to one last World Series one it and

965
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: then in two thousand and eleven, and I could say this.

966
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: I can remember this because we were at a bar

967
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: in Culver City, the Around League team Derrek Keeter broke

968
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: his ankle, and I remember thinking myself, that is it.

969
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: It was in the playoffs that year, this is that

970
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: was his last chance. I get a feeling Tommy boy

971
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: is not getting back to a big playoff game after

972
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: this year. This is his last shot, and I think

973
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: he's gonna come come up shore. But I think he's

974
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: getting back to what is this? This would be a

975
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: six super Bowl? I just feel he would be. He

976
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: would be the only quarterback in history to be in

977
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: six Super Bowls. It would be heartbreaking to see them

978
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: lose again. But yes, as Dan mentioned, this has been

979
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: my pick for I think five years running. I did

980
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: get the Packers winning it right once. I did get

981
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots losing right once. So they're two great, two

982
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks. You know, I just don't think about it

983
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: too hard. You picked two great quarterbacks. They're looking good,

984
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: their defense looks good. It's got Chris Wesling's picked for

985
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the year, Darrell vas So, Yeah, Dan

986
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: and I are in lockstep. It's good to be on

987
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: a winning team this year with Danny boy. I like that.

988
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: I like that. I didn't even It's funny. When I

989
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: wrote out my prediction yesterday, it didn't really occur to

990
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: me initially that this was the Greg Rosenthal locking stocktic.

991
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: And then when I saw the article on the around

992
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: the NFL pay, I was like, oh, of course, bang yeah,

993
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: And I did you guys go around the horn yet

994
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: with the other pick. We've we talked to Kevin on

995
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: the phone, but we we haven't gotten to Mark and

996
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: crist yet. I'm just curious. Patro went with the Seahawks

997
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: over the Steelers. Well, I guess we might as well

998
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: do it. I was gonna say, Biden, Dan, but why

999
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: don't we do your picks? Well, Dan's on the horn.

1000
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: This is fun. You want mine? Yeah, it's here a Mark,

1001
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: I have the Bears over the Titans' not well, we

1002
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: hinted at our picks in a in a recent podcasts

1003
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: to make it quick, I have the Saints over the

1004
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm gonna let Chris expounds on the NFC

1005
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: portion of that. What's her who you have the Saints winning, Chris,

1006
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: I'll go after Mark, And for me, I think the

1007
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: Steelers largely comes from this. I am board with the

1008
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: Paige Treats and I'm bored with the Broncos making the

1009
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: endless playoff runs. Let's get a new team in there.

1010
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: It's not a very new team. They're not a stranger

1011
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: in to the playoffs. Yeah, but it's real upstarts. It's Steelers,

1012
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: Big Ben's turn once again. I like that Breeze and

1013
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: Sean Payton making a second Super Bowl run. They will

1014
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: win it. There is oh I do. I want to

1015
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: point out the incredible, almost impossible amount of integrity on

1016
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: both my end. Mark's behalf that I picked the Patriots

1017
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 1: as a Jets then and Mark Dealers as a Brown

1018
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: fan shows that we are completely impartial and the definition

1019
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: of pro good point professional. On the other way, I

1020
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 1: just picked my team every year. You all realize there's

1021
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: a question begging to be asked here, why would the

1022
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 1: Steelers be so good? Well, we've got two people predicting

1023
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: the Steelers in the Super Bowl. How can they not

1024
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: be the team of of around the NFL? That is interesting.

1025
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: They have moved forward and past the elimination chamber. They're

1026
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: one of thirteen teams still alive for the honor. It

1027
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: will never happen. He picked him to go to the

1028
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: super Bowl. There that markin block the steel is the

1029
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: team of h t L. He's ticking them to go

1030
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. Well, someone else can block them.

1031
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: By the way, guys, it needs to be the around

1032
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: the NFL team, you know. Yeah, we need to work

1033
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: with the around you know, team of a t L,

1034
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: team of eight. How about this team of the NFL?

1035
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: What about now that's not getting either team of L

1036
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: and that will be our little piece of the pie

1037
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: that they can't like. I like that, all right, Chris,

1038
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: let's get it. Let's get your pick before we go.

1039
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: I have the Patriots. I also have Tom Brady returning

1040
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: for his six Super Bowl. And I think we're in

1041
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: uh Bert Bell, former NFL commissioner who coined the phrase

1042
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: any given Sunday, rolling over in his grave right now

1043
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: because the parody is dead. Hot take. There are five

1044
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: teams you can say six if you like, the forty

1045
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: nine ers. Five teams head and shoulders above the rest

1046
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: of NFL. Right now, the Patriots and Broncos in the

1047
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: a f C are way better than the other teams,

1048
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: and I think the Packers, Saints, and Seahawks in the

1049
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: NFC are way better than the rest of the teams.

1050
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: So basically, I think you're picking from those five. I've

1051
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: got the Patriots winning in a shootout over the Broncos

1052
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: because I don't want to see Peyton Manning again. Like it.

1053
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 1: I think Tom Brady is the best one minute quarterback

1054
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL. It comes down to

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Speaker 1: the final minute. He takes the Patriots to the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: only to be defeated in a blow for blow shootout

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Speaker 1: by Drew Brees, who just happens to have more weapons

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Speaker 1: at his disposed. What one juicy footnote. You won't have

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Speaker 1: to see Peyton Manning much longer in my prediction, and

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Speaker 1: this is a lock. He will be picked off twice

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Speaker 1: by Ryan Shazier in the Super Bowl in the a

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Speaker 1: f C Championship, one for a game winning touchdown, and

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Speaker 1: then two days later I get that woodsy music off

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Speaker 1: two days later mark to a professional wrestler. While there

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Speaker 1: you go. Two days later, Peyton Manning retires. It's the

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Speaker 1: opposite of John Elway walking out with two Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: wins and calling it quits. Manning is done after this season?

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Speaker 1: Why why? Why does why does all of your big

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Speaker 1: preseason settlers have to do with all time great players

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Speaker 1: having terrible things happened to them stating prediction about a

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Speaker 1: mediocre like third string player. Last year, you correctly predicted

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Speaker 1: that there would be a serious injury that would you know,

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Speaker 1: calm the Green Bay Packers season, and then this year

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Speaker 1: and you're now saying Peyton Manning will retire after a

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Speaker 1: terrible end of the year. And can I just make

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Speaker 1: one point. West made a very logical point that we

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Speaker 1: were very cop heavy in terms of the way the

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Speaker 1: league is set up right now. But knowing how sports work,

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Speaker 1: that's almost to me a dead giveaway that someone's going

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Speaker 1: to shock the world this year. Are we will look

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Speaker 1: like fools? Maybe that maybe that Bears Titans one was

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Speaker 1: that's what you said. I did say Bears Titans. If

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Speaker 1: that happens, they're just gonna cut out the rest of

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Speaker 1: the portion of the segment, all right. I think our

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Speaker 1: fifty five different preview episodes are over. The Next time

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Speaker 1: we're back in the studio, Dan, we'll be here and

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Speaker 1: I won't have to host anymore, which is great. You

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Speaker 1: know what will happen then ull preview of the season opener. Yes, well,

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Speaker 1: that's exciting, real games to talk about. I would be

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Speaker 1: I am gonna be excited. We're actually gonna be back

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday to our schedules a little different for everyone

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Speaker 1: next week, and then we'll preview all the games each

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Speaker 1: week that will drop on Friday mornings, and we'll review

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Speaker 1: the games late Sunday night. But Dan will be back

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Speaker 1: for all the fun. He's also going to Seattle next week,

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Speaker 1: which is gonna be great. And and this can be

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Speaker 1: the first sign off with someone on the phone. You

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Speaker 1: you're excited to be part of history Dan, and to

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Speaker 1: build up that wrestling motif. On Tuesday, I will begin

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Speaker 1: the podcast by hitting Greg over the head of the

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Speaker 1: steel folding. I like it all right for Dan Hansas,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Wesley, and td Um great grossan Thal.

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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. Everyone, pre seasons over, enjoy your

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Speaker 1: Labor day, Come home now.